Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
This is good information. Though I have anything but intensive manangement (I only have 10sheep on 5 acre)I can easily collect a fecal and take it to the vet. Thank you, John At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:01 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 101 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 2. (AP) 3. Re: Wasting Away (Onalee Israel) 4. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) 5. Re: Wasting Away (helen) 6. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 7. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 8. Re: Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 9. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:02 -0400 From: Pantalone, John A \(GE Infra, Energy\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have had 3 sheep in the last two months die from progressively wasting away. From the moment I notice thin ribs and hips, it takes about 1-2 weeks for them to die. I noticed another one today and am at a loss. I have tried administering antibiotics (LA200 and B12), but they seem to die within a day or two anyway. These sheep have been with me for a few years (or born here), however, I have recently (about 4mths ago) introduced several Royal White Sheep to my flock. The mature Royal Whites had scrapies ear tags. My original flock had never been tested. They all eat grass regularly (with a bit of grain) and get minerals. Anybody have any ideas? John -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: AP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You need to check the lower eyelid of your animals to look for signs of anemia, if they have anemia then you need to use dewormer as soon as posible. I have good experience using garlic juice, and oregano to help the dewormer. Normally I gave 2 or 3 cc orally of garlic juice. You would find garlic juice and oregano at the supermarket. Other people recommend the use of parsley too. Have a great day!!! Andy The biggest mistake people make in life is not making a living at doing what they most enjoy. - Malcolm S. Forbes (1919-1990) ... Notice: This email message and any attachments are confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately reply to the sender and delete the message from your email system. Thank you. --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 1:41 PM I have had 3 sheep in the last two months die from progressively wasting away. From the moment I notice thin ribs and hips, it takes about 1-2 weeks for them to die. I noticed another one today and am at a loss. I have tried administering antibiotics (LA200 and B12), but they
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
Are you close to a University such as Texas AM? It might be worth contacting them and find a vet interested in the problem you are experiencing. Doing a necropsy on the next animal that expires can be very beneficial since you may find out exactly what is causing the problem. Just a thought. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Cathy Mayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you close to a University such as Texas AM? It might be worth contacting them and find a vet interested in the problem you are experiencing. Doing a necropsy on the next animal that expires can be very beneficial since you may find out exactly what is causing the problem. Just a thought. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
I would not worry with the fecal before treating for coccidia. In sheep Time is of the essence. The flocking instinct is so great that they are nearly half dead when most humans note a problem. I have lived and worked with my girls for over 10 years. I feel that a problem shows u first in their eyes. Just my $0.02 Cecil in OKla Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) wrote: This is good information. Though I have anything but intensive manangement (I only have 10sheep on 5 acre)I can easily collect a fecal and take it to the vet. Thank you, John At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:01 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 101 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 2. (AP) 3. Re: Wasting Away (Onalee Israel) 4. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) 5. Re: Wasting Away (helen) 6. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 7. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 8. Re: Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 9. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:02 -0400 From: Pantalone, John A \(GE Infra, Energy\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have had 3 sheep in the last two months die from progressively wasting away. From the moment I notice thin ribs and hips, it takes about 1-2 weeks for them to die. I noticed another one today and am at a loss. I have tried administering antibiotics (LA200 and B12), but they seem to die within a day or two anyway. These sheep have been with me for a few years (or born here), however, I have recently (about 4mths ago) introduced several Royal White Sheep to my flock. The mature Royal Whites had scrapies ear tags. My original flock had never been tested. They all eat grass regularly (with a bit of grain) and get minerals. Anybody have any ideas? John -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: AP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You need to check the lower eyelid of your animals to look for signs of anemia, if they have anemia then you need to use dewormer as soon as posible. I have good experience using garlic juice, and oregano to help the dewormer. Normally I gave 2 or 3 cc orally of garlic juice. You would find garlic juice and oregano at the supermarket. Other people recommend the use of parsley too. Have a great day!!! Andy The biggest mistake people make in life is not making a living at doing what they most enjoy. - Malcolm S. Forbes (1919-1990) ... Notice: This email message and any attachments are confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately reply to the sender and delete the message from your email system. Thank you. --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
They acquired coccidia eating or drinking water contaminated with fecal. What other animals do you have in your farm? What watering system do you have? I had coccidia problem in my herd before but that was when I was raising ducks too. Now I don't have ducks and I reduced the size of the water bucket to a 5 gal pail, also I have a dog watering system and some of my sheep learned how to use it. The pail is over concrete blocks one step over the soil level and that is helping to to keep goats/sheep's hoofs trimmed. My water system is automatic, and at least every week I am cleaning the pail. Have a great day!!! Andy The biggest mistake people make in life is not making a living at doing what they most enjoy. - Malcolm S. Forbes (1919-1990) ... Notice: This email message and any attachments are confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately reply to the sender and delete the message from your email system. Thank you. --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:40 AM This is good information. Though I have anything but intensive manangement (I only have 10sheep on 5 acre)I can easily collect a fecal and take it to the vet. Thank you, John At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:01 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 101 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 2. (AP) 3. Re: Wasting Away (Onalee Israel) 4. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) 5. Re: Wasting Away (helen) 6. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 7. Re: Wasting Away (AP) 8. Re: Wasting Away (Pantalone, John A (GE Infra, Energy)) 9. Re: wasting away (Dayna Denmark) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:02 -0400 From: Pantalone, John A \(GE Infra, Energy\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have had 3 sheep in the last two months die from progressively wasting away. From the moment I notice thin ribs and hips, it takes about 1-2 weeks for them to die. I noticed another one today and am at a loss. I have tried administering antibiotics (LA200 and B12), but they seem to die within a day or two anyway. These sheep have been with me for a few years (or born here), however, I have recently (about 4mths ago) introduced several Royal White Sheep to my flock. The mature Royal Whites had scrapies ear tags. My original flock had never been tested. They all eat grass regularly (with a bit of grain) and get minerals. Anybody have any ideas? John -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: AP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Wasting Away To: blackbelly
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Dayna Denmark wrote: Just reading up on Coccidia. Could be another possibility given the age of the sheep and the weather you have been experiencing. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
