Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver
I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS they will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just leave that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some strange file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I don't know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens when I actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the sounds out of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached many USB devices including external hard drives and USB drives and can't recall hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have learned to ignore then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its for these frustrations I don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to wreck my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell the product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort that they are taking from me, it can also be my own computer's reliable functionality. I say no thanks to that and I call FS tech support at any slight hint of a bug demanding they fix the problems with the now possibly $2000 I have invested in their screen
Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS they will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just leave that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some strange file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I don't know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens when I actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the sounds out of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached many USB devices including external hard drives and USB drives and can't recall hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have learned to ignore then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its for these frustrations I don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to wreck my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell the product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort that they
Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Maybe I misunderstand you. I am not a native english speaker. I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays. I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not supported. But they will try to add support for it in the future. Very quick response on that email though... -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS they will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just leave that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some strange file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all over again. I too get those strange USB connecting
Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
What braille display are you using? Is it maybe an older one or a less common one? You might also contact the company that makes it and they may be able to tell you how do make it work. It may be that you can set it up as another brand and it will work just fine. I'm glad you got such great response. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Maybe I misunderstand you. I am not a native english speaker. I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays. I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not supported. But they will try to add support for it in the future. Very quick response on that email though... -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs an inordinate
Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
Papenmeier Braillex els 80. To be honest I don't know if this Braille display is very old or less common. I see myself as an intermediate Braille reader, I have just been reading Braille for 1.5 years. I love Braille and find it very useful combined with speech and hope to improve my reading capabilities. The Papenmeier display was recommended by the local authorities and I said ok give me one of those. I was in a hurry and eager to begin reading. But as I understand I should be able to replace it with another Braille display if I encounter problems... I not quite sure how to express/explain this in English... Anyway I am not going to try to replace it at this time though. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dgcnc Sent: 11. september 2009 17:32 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver What braille display are you using? Is it maybe an older one or a less common one? You might also contact the company that makes it and they may be able to tell you how do make it work. It may be that you can set it up as another brand and it will work just fine. I'm glad you got such great response. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Maybe I misunderstand you. I am not a native english speaker. I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays. I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not supported. But they will try to add support for it in the future. Very quick response on that email though... -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to
Re: [Blind-Computing] MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
You are very lucky to be given a braille display. That does not happen in the U.S. Check with the maker and see if they can help since I don't think that is an old one at all. They might just need to contact Apple. I don't have a braille display so am envious of you. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Papenmeier Braillex els 80. To be honest I don't know if this Braille display is very old or less common. I see myself as an intermediate Braille reader, I have just been reading Braille for 1.5 years. I love Braille and find it very useful combined with speech and hope to improve my reading capabilities. The Papenmeier display was recommended by the local authorities and I said ok give me one of those. I was in a hurry and eager to begin reading. But as I understand I should be able to replace it with another Braille display if I encounter problems... I not quite sure how to express/explain this in English... Anyway I am not going to try to replace it at this time though. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dgcnc Sent: 11. september 2009 17:32 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver What braille display are you using? Is it maybe an older one or a less common one? You might also contact the company that makes it and they may be able to tell you how do make it work. It may be that you can set it up as another brand and it will work just fine. I'm glad you got such great response. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Maybe I misunderstand you. I am not a native english speaker. I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays. I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not supported. But they will try to add support for it in the future. Very quick response on that email though... -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille support on MAC? I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at work. I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail. I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to use Open Book. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the
Re: [Blind-Computing] MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver
I will contact Papenmeier. What can I say? I guess I'm lucky to be living in Norway. Not everyone is given a Braille display though, you'll have to explain a good reason - like that you have a job or are about to be hired etc. You will also need to prove that you are capable of learning to read Braille and make use of it at work and at home etc. So what about moving to Norway? :) -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dgcnc Sent: 11. september 2009 18:18 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver You are very lucky to be given a braille display. That does not happen in the U.S. Check with the maker and see if they can help since I don't think that is an old one at all. They might just need to contact Apple. I don't have a braille display so am envious of you. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MACOSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Papenmeier Braillex els 80. To be honest I don't know if this Braille display is very old or less common. I see myself as an intermediate Braille reader, I have just been reading Braille for 1.5 years. I love Braille and find it very useful combined with speech and hope to improve my reading capabilities. The Papenmeier display was recommended by the local authorities and I said ok give me one of those. I was in a hurry and eager to begin reading. But as I understand I should be able to replace it with another Braille display if I encounter problems... I not quite sure how to express/explain this in English... Anyway I am not going to try to replace it at this time though. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dgcnc Sent: 11. september 2009 17:32 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OSaccessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver What braille display are you using? Is it maybe an older one or a less common one? You might also contact the company that makes it and they may be able to tell you how do make it work. It may be that you can set it up as another brand and it will work just fine. I'm glad you got such great response. Greg - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility-was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Maybe I misunderstand you. I am not a native english speaker. I cannot find my Braille display on the list of suppoerted displays. I also sent an email to Apple and they confirmed that my display is not supported. But they will try to add support for it in the future. Very quick response on that email though... -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 11. september 2009 17:13 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility -was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver Why not try to figure out why this is so? If you really need it that is. Matthew Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE:questionCentinelSystem Driver I just found that my Braille display is not supported on Snow Leopard. I hope that Apple will add support for my Braille display in the future. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew_2010 Sent: 10. september 2009 18:15 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: questionCentinelSystem Driver Braille support on Mac is suppose to be phenomenal. if you go to the blind cool tech site you will find and endless amount of Mac tutorials covering all your questions below. http://www.blindcooltech.com/ There is a great one on an app called Parallels? which will boot an image of your windows desktop on the Mac. I would also consider dumping Freedom scientific's Open book and going with K1000--I did this and have never regretted it. Matthew - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question CentinelSystem Driver Interesting. I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an alternative. I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard... How is the Braille
Re: [Blind-Computing] System restore
Matthew: Fortunately for me, I long ago learned that listening to instructions was really the way to go (grin). Thanks again for the help. Linda - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] System restore No problem, I would have sent you instructions where to find system restore but I was afraid you might go ahead and launch it before giving the podcast a listen. The audio tutorial, if memory serves me right, is a bit confusing but yields good info. Matthew - Original Message - From: Linda Vanderlitz dra...@color-country.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] System restore Matthew: Thank you very much. Linda - Original Message - From: Matthew_2010 matthew_2...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] System restore Here's the direct download link to a system restore audio demo that should answer lots of questions: http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RestoringYourSystemAndCreatingARestorePoint.mp3 Matthew - Original Message - From: Linda Vander`litz dra...@color-country.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] System restore Hi All: I'm having a senior moment but can anyone tell me how to do a system restore and where to find it??? Tia. Linda V. Don't be humble... you're not that great (Golda Meir). For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003
hello group. I bought a version of Office 2003 that I thought was genuine. But now, Microsoft Advantage is telling me that it isn't a genuine copy. does anyone know where I can find Office 2003 or even Word 2003. I don't like Word 2007 at all. I'd like to buy it legally. But I have no idea where something like that could be found. Any help would be most welcome. John and Linda Justice with guide dogs Jake and Zachary Sent from my HP laptop computer. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003
Hi John. Try searching for OEM versions of it. You might be able to find it that way. - Original Message - From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net To: blind computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003 hello group. I bought a version of Office 2003 that I thought was genuine. But now, Microsoft Advantage is telling me that it isn't a genuine copy. does anyone know where I can find Office 2003 or even Word 2003. I don't like Word 2007 at all. I'd like to buy it legally. But I have no idea where something like that could be found. Any help would be most welcome. John and Linda Justice with guide dogs Jake and Zachary Sent from my HP laptop computer. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003
John How about Amazon.com or E-Bay? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of John Justice Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:55 PM To: blind computing Subject: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003 hello group. I bought a version of Office 2003 that I thought was genuine. But now, Microsoft Advantage is telling me that it isn't a genuine copy. does anyone know where I can find Office 2003 or even Word 2003. I don't like Word 2007 at all. I'd like to buy it legally. But I have no idea where something like that could be found. Any help would be most welcome. John and Linda Justice with guide dogs Jake and Zachary Sent from my HP laptop computer. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003
There's lots of them on EBay as had to purchase another genuine copy of Office 2003 Pro and found many on EBay. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 5:56 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003 Hi John. Try searching for OEM versions of it. You might be able to find it that way. - Original Message - From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net To: blind computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] looking for office 2003 hello group. I bought a version of Office 2003 that I thought was genuine. But now, Microsoft Advantage is telling me that it isn't a genuine copy. does anyone know where I can find Office 2003 or even Word 2003. I don't like Word 2007 at all. I'd like to buy it legally. But I have no idea where something like that could be found. Any help would be most welcome. John and Linda Justice with guide dogs Jake and Zachary Sent from my HP laptop computer. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] problum with my e mail and other stuff folder
Hi. I just found a very interesting problem with my folder with e mails that I have saved and other stuff in it. all the e mails with the extension .eml can't seem to be opened. when I try I get this. --- Windows Live Mail: wlmail.exe - Entry Point Not Found --- The procedure entry point IsThreadDesktopComposited could not be located in the dynamic link library USER32.dll. --- OK --- --- Outlook Express Community Manager: wlmail.exe - Entry Point Not Found --- The procedure entry point IsThreadDesktopComposited could not be located in the dynamic link library USER32.dll. --- OK --- --- I think that it is a simple case of just creating another e mail account but I would like your thoughts on this. I have also saved this folder on my 2 external drives as well. I would like to know how to fix this please? let me know your thoughts. from Mich. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system
Yes John please do. will be much appreciated. Probably you can E-mail it directly to me. Thanks allot. Samson - Original Message - From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Hi, If you don't find that boot util I can get it to you. Jon -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of slcb Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Dear John and Mathew, thanks so much for your prompt feed back. First I will try John's method, failing I will save my data and do a full format. Thanks again. Samson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system
Hi Samson, I keep getting the message rejection notice, something about your isp and an issue with attachments so here's a Sendspace link to the file. Jon http://www.sendspace.com/file/all3zu -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of slcb Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:03 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Yes John please do. will be much appreciated. Probably you can E-mail it directly to me. Thanks allot. Samson - Original Message - From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Hi, If you don't find that boot util I can get it to you. Jon -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of slcb Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Dear John and Mathew, thanks so much for your prompt feed back. First I will try John's method, failing I will save my data and do a full format. Thanks again. Samson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system
sorry John, I think our Isp servers are rejecting all Exe file attachments as viruses. I will try the link. Thanks, best regards. Samson. - Original Message - From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Hi Samson, I keep getting the message rejection notice, something about your isp and an issue with attachments so here's a Sendspace link to the file. Jon http://www.sendspace.com/file/all3zu -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of slcb Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:03 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Yes John please do. will be much appreciated. Probably you can E-mail it directly to me. Thanks allot. Samson - Original Message - From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Hi, If you don't find that boot util I can get it to you. Jon -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of slcb Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] deleting one operating system Dear John and Mathew, thanks so much for your prompt feed back. First I will try John's method, failing I will save my data and do a full format. Thanks again. Samson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] VOIP question
recently I have been made aware of a VOIP service called ooma. apparently all you do is buy their interface box and connect it to your internet connection and your phone or phones, and you get free calling any where in the continental Us. free. I have heard various different prices for the equipment ranging from as low as $65 to about $250. Does anyone know anything about this service, and if so, how accessible would the setup be? the url for their site is http://www.ooma.com . Any information would be appreciated. I looked on the site but the information was somewhat inconclusive. thanks in advance. dan Murphy mailto:mwe...@roadrunner.com skype: mweeby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
