[board-discuss] [ANN] Membership Committee elections: voting tokens sent, voting starts in less than a day!

2022-08-30 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dear TDF members,

you all should have by now received an email with your personal token
and the invitation to vote for the new Membership Committee!

It was sent with the subject

 "Your The Document Foundation 2022 Membership Committee Elections
  Voting Token"

and the sender is

 "electi...@documentfoundation.org"

Please don't forget to check your spam folder too, in case you do not
see that mail. If the message with the instructions and the token is
missing, please immediately poke us at
electi...@documentfoundation.org, or contact me directly as soon as
possible.

Voting will run
from Thursday, 2022-09-01, 00:00 CEST/UTC+2 (i.e. beginning of the day 01)
until Wednesday, 2022-09-07, 24:00 CEST/UTC+2 (i.e. end of the day 07).

A list of candidates and their reasons for running is available at
https://elections.documentfoundation.org/2022-mc/candidates.html

Please do make use of your rights, and participate in voting for the
new MC. Best of luck to the candidates, and thank you all for standing
for the election!

All the best,

-- Thorsten

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Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-08-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez

Oh, I had not understood it that way. If so, count me in.


El 30/8/22 a las 13:01, Andreas Mantke escribió:

Hi Daniel,

I think there is wide field of tasks available, not only tasks for
hacking on source code. And also doing smaller task will help to drive
the project forward.

Best,
Andreas

Am 29.08.22 um 21:59 schrieb Daniel A. Rodriguez:

I wish I could but, unfortunately, that task is out of my scope.

However, it's important to highlight that there's an ongoing work.

El 29 de agosto de 2022 3:02:33 p. m. GMT-03:00, Andreas Mantke
 escribió:

    Hi Daniel, hi all,

    Am 29.08.22 um 14:51 schrieb drodrig...@libreoffice.org:

    El 29.08.2022 07:44, Mike Saunders escribió:

    Hi all, We still have this page on the site:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/
    ...which has been the same for a very long time. We could
    update it to say that we're considering the future of LOOL
    (linking to this mailing list post), and see if people are
    interested in contributing. What do people think? Mike

    From my POV, yes. At least to show that there are people
    interested in the existence of such a version.

    You could join the work on that project currently on Github:
https://github.com/freeonlineoffice/online

    I plan to move the work to the LibreOffice project ressources back
    later. Currently I don't want to work under the sword of Damocles 
on TDF

    ressources and had to move forth and back again.

    And there is no shortage of tasks from different kind. Thus every
    helping hand is very welcome! ;-)

    Regards,
    Andreas

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Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-08-30 Thread Andreas Mantke

Hi Daniel,

I think there is wide field of tasks available, not only tasks for
hacking on source code. And also doing smaller task will help to drive
the project forward.

Best,
Andreas

Am 29.08.22 um 21:59 schrieb Daniel A. Rodriguez:

I wish I could but, unfortunately, that task is out of my scope.

However, it's important to highlight that there's an ongoing work.

El 29 de agosto de 2022 3:02:33 p. m. GMT-03:00, Andreas Mantke
 escribió:

Hi Daniel, hi all,

Am 29.08.22 um 14:51 schrieb drodrig...@libreoffice.org:

El 29.08.2022 07:44, Mike Saunders escribió:

Hi all, We still have this page on the site:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/
...which has been the same for a very long time. We could
update it to say that we're considering the future of LOOL
(linking to this mailing list post), and see if people are
interested in contributing. What do people think? Mike

From my POV, yes. At least to show that there are people
interested in the existence of such a version.

You could join the work on that project currently on Github:
https://github.com/freeonlineoffice/online

I plan to move the work to the LibreOffice project ressources back
later. Currently I don't want to work under the sword of Damocles on TDF
ressources and had to move forth and back again.

And there is no shortage of tasks from different kind. Thus every
helping hand is very welcome! ;-)

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [board-discuss] First Questions To All MC Candidates

2022-08-30 Thread Andreas Mantke

Hi Gustavo, hi all,

Am 30.08.22 um 05:27 schrieb Gustavo Buzzatti Pacheco:

Hello Andreas, members, community!

 Sorry for my delay. Last week we had, here in Brazil, the second
edition of the Latin American Conference. Happy to say that we had an
amazing event!
 In the next few days we will share more information: numbers, photos,
results...

 Answers below. Thanks for the questions.


- What are the criteria to measure the value of a contribution?


 This is always an important topic.

 I believe we are an open and inclusive project and TDF is the formal
reflection of that. I also believe that a "contribution" is an
individual way to our very well written "Goals of the Foundation" (§2
of the statutes). So, in a big picture, I see value in a contribution
when I see the engagement of a member to contribute to reach some of
these objectives. Basically, what we can read in §10/a of the statutes.

To guide the MC decisions, we also have in §10/b a non-exhaustive list
of types of contributions and, more important, I think: the
alternative to confirm the contributions with other members.

- Which are the criteria for a non trivial or obviously insignificant
contribution?


For me, in a non trivial contribution we can see the intention to
reach our goals in §2. For example, "My contribution is translating
LibreOffice to my language and its available in weblate, my user is
xyz" or "I have worked to present LibreOffice as the best alternative
for my local government during the last months and members X and Z can
confirm''. On the other hand, in an insignificant contribution, you
can't see clearly our goals as, for example, in "I want to be a member
because I use Calc to handle my personal accounting"...

For sure that is a gray area between both cases. Again, the reference
of other members is a key to confirm or not the membership and, also,
the approach of the MC to clarify the doubts about the application.


- Would your rating differ from areas of contribution?


No, my decisions are made more from a wide perspective, as I said in
the previous questions, than from areas of contribution.

But let me point this question in another perspective. What I differ
is *my* expertise in different areas to decide about a membership.

In other words: it's almost impossible to know what happens in all
areas of our project and our organization. All areas are important
but, for some of them, a MC member couldn't have the right skills to
check if the contribution is valid or not. That's the importance of a
plural MC. Sharing responsibilities inside the MC is important to
identify from technical contributions (translation, development,
infra...) to non-technical contributions (with language barriers,
cultural differences, complex politics cenarios,...)


thanks for your detailed answer to my questions!

Regards,
Andreas

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