Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again? (was: [board-discuss] It's ENOUGH!: Continued Nuisance with private emails)

2022-11-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
Previous moderation, as you named, was not based on a board decision but yours.

So, whenever someone says something you don't like the shut up process appears. 
And that's something the people who really care about LibreOffice as a project 
don't deserve.

Sad to say this as people like Emiliano and Paolo give their best, but for some 
time now I feel that this board does not represent me.



El 29 de noviembre de 2022 9:57:25 p. m. GMT-03:00, Thorsten Behrens 
 escribió:
>Hi Andreas, all,
>
>[public answer as requested]
>
>Andreas Mantke wrote:
>> I do not want to be threatened anymore by a member of the board. And it
>> seems also others experience similar things, which is what today's
>> emails from Emiliano, who is the vice chairperson, and Daniel, who is a
>> member of the previous board, suggest.
>> 
>It is quite something to frame gentle suggestions to not personally
>attack people, or to take certain parts of a discussion to the
>internal members list - as threats. :(
>
>But it fits nicely with the apparent character assassinations, that
>seem to be going on again currently.
>
>Alas, it is not something that we, as a community, should condone. I'd
>therefore suggest to the board, to put this list, or certain
>subscribers, under moderation again. Or maybe we can pull ourselves
>together this time, please?
>
>P.S.: Andreas' claim of non-consent to private messages is dangerous
>  nonsense - both this list's netiquette, as well as mailing lists
>  moderator practice, ask for exactly that. If someone does not
>  consent to it, then please unsubscribe.
>
>Cheers,
>
>-- Thorsten

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Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again? (was: [board-discuss] It's ENOUGH!: Continued Nuisance with private emails)

2022-11-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Andreas, all,

[public answer as requested]

Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I do not want to be threatened anymore by a member of the board. And it
> seems also others experience similar things, which is what today's
> emails from Emiliano, who is the vice chairperson, and Daniel, who is a
> member of the previous board, suggest.
> 
It is quite something to frame gentle suggestions to not personally
attack people, or to take certain parts of a discussion to the
internal members list - as threats. :(

But it fits nicely with the apparent character assassinations, that
seem to be going on again currently.

Alas, it is not something that we, as a community, should condone. I'd
therefore suggest to the board, to put this list, or certain
subscribers, under moderation again. Or maybe we can pull ourselves
together this time, please?

P.S.: Andreas' claim of non-consent to private messages is dangerous
  nonsense - both this list's netiquette, as well as mailing lists
  moderator practice, ask for exactly that. If someone does not
  consent to it, then please unsubscribe.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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