[cayugabirds-l] Wolfe Island Mortality

2014-03-06 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
I was asked by some for the source of the quote that said Wolfe Island avian
mortality was the second highest in NA. After some searching we find that it 
came
from an analysis by our own Bill Evans. The link to that article is below. Not 
to
belabor the point but John Confer's last paragraph goes to the heart of our 
concerns
for Amherst Island...the importance of habitat.

I was sent a second source, a PDf outlining deaths across Canadian wind farms 
and it
does show Wolfe to be the highest and second for tat year only to Altamont in 
CA.It
was written by Lyle Friesen of the CWS for the OFO (Ontario Field Ornithologist)
Journal. Unfortunately I can't get that PDF to link in acceptable form.
john

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/windfarm-turbines-deadly-for-birds-bats/article4392511/


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[cayugabirds-l] Ice mid lake/Snowy Owl Genesee Co.

2014-03-06 Thread Donna Scott
Re our string 2 + weeks ago about ice on Cayuga Lake, I arrived home from Fla 
yesterday  when I awoke after a zero degrees night, today, I see huge sheets 
of ice floating on lake here at Lansing Sta Rd where lake is 430 feet deep!
This has not happened here in many years. 
Was in Batavia yesterday before returning here,  saw one of the Snowy Owls at 
Genesee County Airport, sitting on big chimney of long, dark blue, new house 
just south of airport. 

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Ice mid lake/Snowy Owl Genesee Co.

2014-03-06 Thread Linda Orkin
Fingerlakes Weather guy on Facebook said it was -9 in Rochester this
morning and that is the coldest EVER March temperature recorded.  The
closest was -7 in 1872.

Let's hope this warming trend takes hold.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca  where it was -10 this morning...


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Donna Scott d...@cornell.edu wrote:

 Re our string 2 + weeks ago about ice on Cayuga Lake, I arrived home from
 Fla yesterday  when I awoke after a zero degrees night, today, I see huge
 sheets of ice floating on lake here at Lansing Sta Rd where lake is 430
 feet deep!
 This has not happened here in many years.
 Was in Batavia yesterday before returning here,  saw one of the Snowy
 Owls at Genesee County Airport, sitting on big chimney of long, dark blue,
 new house just south of airport.

 Sent from my iPhone
 Donna Scott
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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Owl Prowl this Saturday, March 8

2014-03-06 Thread Linda Orkin
All,

Just a reminder and an invitation.  John Confer will be leading a group to
look and listen for owls this coming Saturday,  March 8.  It promises to be
a fun evening, John has been out scouting his route.

Here's the description as is on the calendar.

Dress super-warmly related to weather of the day because the trip will
involve walking and a lot of standing still, which can be especially cold.
We will try for a mix of species, which are often hard to get to respond.
Try for Long-eared Owl by walking along Thomas Rd, Screech Owl along hiking
trail on Game Farm Rd, and Saw-whet at Park Preserve and Saw-whet and
Barred Owl at Star-Stanton Rd. It is possible to strike out on all four,
but it is a good time of year to see if they respond. Trip will end at
about 9:30.
Call 539-6308 before 5:00 PM if there is a concern about weather that
night.  John Confer

Meet at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology at 7 PM.

All are welcome regardless of membership status or level of expertise.

Hope you can make it.

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[cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread W. Larry Hymes
I recently wrote about cedar waxwings consuming snow, while at the time 
they were eating the dried fruit of Korean Ash.  I raised the question 
whether they were perhaps doing this to dilute the alcohol in the 
fruit.  Kevin expressed the opinion that there would be no juice, 
fermented or otherwise, in the fruit.  He then asked, if I had ever 
gotten drunk eating raisins.  The answer to that is no, particularly 
since raisins are _not_ made from overripe fruit.  As to his statement 
about no juice being in dried fruit, there is some water content in 
raisins (up to 15%), although, of course, that is controlled in the 
drying process.  If there were no moisture at all in raisins, it would 
be like eating hardtack!  I would hazard to guess that there is some 
residual water, albeit very little, in naturally dried fruit.


As I understand, alcohol is produced as fruit becomes over ripe.  As 
moisture leaves the fruit, the alcohol will become more concentrated, 
with the highest concentration occurring during the winter months.  The 
alcohol may help to preserve the fruit.  I recall reading a post to 
Cayuga Birds long ago about someone observing unusual behavior in robins 
that had become tipsy from eating overripe fruit.  Since cedar waxwings 
feed exclusively(?) on fruit, I could imagine that they could be more 
susceptible to becoming inebriated, if they were to consume fruit that 
has alcohol concentrated in it.  This can be dangerous for the birds, 
since it makes them more susceptible to predation, and if they were to 
consume enough of it, they could die.  All this made me wonder whether 
waxwings could have developed an adaptation for consuming water when 
eating overripe fruit in order to dilute their drink.  Kevin may well 
be right that the birds coincidentally were very thirsty at the same 
time they were consuming the fruit.  By the way,  I have no idea what 
the alcohol content might be in dried, overripe fruit of Korean Ash.  I 
have not bothered to do a taste test!  Does anyone know someone who 
might be willing to run an analysis?


Larry

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
Larry,

You nailed it. I had forgotten you were in the Fruit and Vegetable department 
of Cornell University! The fruits will contain some amount of moisture, I think 
in crab apples there is much higher water content, almost 50 to 60% (at least 
in my fruits). I was going to write this but decided against it, so I discarded 
the email I had written.



Also, if the stomach contents are drier then the snow or water will help the 
stomach contents to become softer and easily digestible, so may be birds were 
not thirsty, but they knew that the food becomes palatable by moistening it.



So technically you are right about concentrated juices.



And secondly alcohol content raises another point. The melting point of alcohol 
solution (with fruit contents) is much lower than pure alcohol and alcohol 
itself has much lower melting point (-116 oC)than water (0 oC). So it makes the 
fruits/and contents lot more easily drinkable?



I have been thinking of checking out the sugar contents of the fruits (crab 
apple) at various stages as to know when is the fruit best edible.



Just a few thoughts of mine!



Cheers

Meena





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I recently wrote about cedar waxwings consuming snow, while at the time they 
were eating the dried fruit of Korean Ash.  I raised the question whether they 
were perhaps doing this to dilute the alcohol in the fruit.  Kevin expressed 
the opinion that there would be no juice, fermented or otherwise, in the fruit. 
 He then asked, if I had ever gotten drunk eating raisins.  The answer to that 
is no, particularly since raisins are _not_ made from overripe fruit.  As to 
his statement about no juice being in dried fruit, there is some water content 
in raisins (up to 15%), although, of course, that is controlled in the drying 
process.  If there were no moisture at all in raisins, it would be like eating 
hardtack!  I would hazard to guess that there is some residual water, albeit 
very little, in naturally dried fruit.



As I understand, alcohol is produced as fruit becomes over ripe.  As moisture 
leaves the fruit, the alcohol will become more concentrated, with the highest 
concentration occurring during the winter months.  The alcohol may help to 
preserve the fruit.  I recall reading a post to Cayuga Birds long ago about 
someone observing unusual behavior in robins that had become tipsy from eating 
overripe fruit.  Since cedar waxwings feed exclusively(?) on fruit, I could 
imagine that they could be more susceptible to becoming inebriated, if they 
were to consume fruit that has alcohol concentrated in it.  This can be 
dangerous for the birds, since it makes them more susceptible to predation, and 
if they were to consume enough of it, they could die.  All this made me wonder 
whether waxwings could have developed an adaptation for consuming water when 
eating overripe fruit in order to dilute their drink.  Kevin may well be 
right that the birds coincidentally were very thirsty at the same time they 
were consuming the fruit.  By the way,  I have no idea what the alcohol content 
might be in dried, overripe fruit of Korean Ash.  I have not bothered to do a 
taste test!  Does anyone know someone who might be willing to run an analysis?



Larry



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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Ice mid lake/Snowy Owl Genesee Co.

2014-03-06 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
That large ice flow could be the chunk that broke off from the north end of the 
lake.  It floated past Aurora the other morning.  When the winter is cold 
enough so that good ice forms to the north (according to my fishing depth 
guide, where the lake is less than 100 feet deep), late winter and spring are 
enlivened by the sight of floes traveling south.  I particularly like it when 
the floes are populated with geese going for a ride.
Enjoy this perfectly beautiful day-
Linda VB

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:39 AM
To: Donna Lee Scott
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Ice mid lake/Snowy Owl Genesee Co.

Fingerlakes Weather guy on Facebook said it was -9 in Rochester this morning 
and that is the coldest EVER March temperature recorded.  The closest was -7 in 
1872.
Let's hope this warming trend takes hold.
Linda Orkin
Ithaca  where it was -10 this morning...

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Donna Scott 
d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu wrote:
Re our string 2 + weeks ago about ice on Cayuga Lake, I arrived home from Fla 
yesterday  when I awoke after a zero degrees night, today, I see huge sheets 
of ice floating on lake here at Lansing Sta Rd where lake is 430 feet deep!
This has not happened here in many years.
Was in Batavia yesterday before returning here,  saw one of the Snowy Owls at 
Genesee County Airport, sitting on big chimney of long, dark blue, new house 
just south of airport.

Sent from my iPhone
Donna Scott
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread Marie P. Read
Ah…one of my favorite topics!
Here's what BNA online says about waxwings and fermented fruit:


Cedar Waxwing is vulnerable to alcohol intoxication and death after eating 
fermented fruits. Two cases from s. California implicate fermented palm 
(Phoenix sp.) fruits in mass mortality of Cedar Waxwings. Forty-two birds from 
flock of about 200 died in late Feb after eating fermented palm fruits (Miller 
1932). Similarly, 31 birds that were eating palm fruits died in a 2-wk period 
in late Apr (McClure 1962). Two Cedar Waxwings died from falling to the ground 
after apparently becoming intoxicated from eating fermented hawthorn fruits; 
their crop contents and livers showed elevated concentrations of ethanol 
(Fitzgerald et al. 1990). Bohemian Waxwings can metabolize alcohol more rapidly 
than European Starlings (Sturnus vulgaris) and Greenfinches (Chloris chloris) 
can (Eriksson and Nummi 1982), but capacity of Cedar Waxwings to metabolize 
alcohol has not been evaluated. Cedar Waxwings are able to smell volatile 
chemicals (Clark 1991). Olfaction may be important in detection and evaluation 
of fruit foods, but this area remains unexplored.



In terms of why waxwings would eat snow/drink water, why could not both 
theories (they're thirsty, they're trying to dilute any fermented juices) be 
true? Certainly fruits at this time of year are pretty dried up, so the direct 
reason waxwings need to drink is likely dehydration…but in doing so they also 
dilute any residual fermented juice.

BTW, from my observations, in late summer and fall, Cedar Waxwings 
preferentially select more rotten-looking, overripe fruits rather than 
underripe ones. My theory is that the squishier overripe fruits are easier for 
them to swallow. But those fruits aren't as photogenic as slightly less ripe 
ones…oh dear….what we poor photographers have to contend with!

OK enough from me about fermentation…I'm feeling woozy already.

Marie

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I recently wrote about cedar waxwings consuming snow, while at the time
they were eating the dried fruit of Korean Ash.  I raised the question
whether they were perhaps doing this to dilute the alcohol in the
fruit.  
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread Dave Nutter
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2014-03-06 Thread Weinberg, Kathy C.
Besides, the FAA will not allow the birds to fly with elevated blood alcohol 
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I am just speculating, but my thoughts are:

* The drying process would preserve the fruit because the yeasts might be 
unable to function without water (I surmise), just as the bacteria cannot 
function with low water and high sugar concentrations (my understanding of why 
drying preserves fruit).
* Any alcohol in the fruit would be as apt to evaporate as the water, or maybe 
more so, ethanol boiling at a lower temperature than water.
* The birds would need water to reconstitute and digest the concentrated fruit. 
When I eat very dry food, my stomach hurts unless I also drink water, I think 
because the dried food draws too much water from my stomach. Water is needed 
for digestion generally to break up many larger molecules, although oxidation 
later on also creates water which I assume can be used for this. Birds don't 
carry around extra water. I often see waxwings drinking, and I think that's why.
* I'm skeptical that birds who rely on old fruit have issues with inebriation. 
Birds are so finely tuned for flying that the drunks wouldn't survive, either 
hitting something or getting eaten. The selection pressure would be enormous. I 
think either there isn't much alcohol out there, or they know how to avoid it.
* Cedar Waxwings are a bit quirky and different from other birds, which might 
be misinterpreted as tipsy.
* A big difference between the dried fruit we eat, such as raisins, and the 
fruit birds eat is that we dry ours quickly and then keep it dry, stored out of 
the weather, whereas fruit on trees is exposed to precipitation, and wild 
fluctuations in temperature and humidity. It's a really good question what 
actually goes on inside a fruit hanging on a tree for several months. I bet 
it's very different depending on the size of the fruit (full-sized apples v 
crabapples v buckthorn  nannyberry). The skin of the fruit must play a huge 
role, too, in shedding and repelling water, and keeping out microorganisms.

--Dave Nutter

On Mar 06, 2014, at 11:40 AM, W. Larry Hymes 
w...@cornell.edumailto:w...@cornell.edu wrote:
I recently wrote about cedar waxwings consuming snow, while at the time
they were eating the dried fruit of Korean Ash. I raised the question
whether they were perhaps doing this to dilute the alcohol in the
fruit. Kevin expressed the opinion that there would be no juice,
fermented or otherwise, in the fruit. He then asked, if I had ever
gotten drunk eating raisins. The answer to that is no, particularly
since raisins are _not_ made from overripe fruit. As to his statement
about no juice being in dried fruit, there is some water content in
raisins (up to 15%), although, of course, that is controlled in the
drying process. If there were no moisture at all in raisins, it would
be like eating hardtack! I would hazard to guess that there is some
residual water, albeit very little, in naturally dried fruit.

As I understand, alcohol is produced as fruit becomes over ripe. As
moisture leaves the fruit, the alcohol will become more concentrated,
with the highest concentration occurring during the winter months. The
alcohol may help to preserve the fruit. I recall reading a post to
Cayuga Birds long ago about someone observing unusual behavior in robins
that had become tipsy from eating overripe fruit. Since cedar waxwings
feed exclusively(?) on fruit, I could imagine that they could be more
susceptible to becoming inebriated, if they were to consume fruit that
has alcohol concentrated in it. This can be dangerous for the birds,
since it makes them more susceptible to predation, and if they were to
consume enough of it, they could die. All this made me wonder whether
waxwings could have developed an adaptation for consuming water when
eating overripe fruit in order to dilute their drink. Kevin may well
be right that the birds 

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Wolfe Island Mortality

2014-03-06 Thread Bill Evans
I've been involved challenging the wind energy build out in Ontario since 
2007, and along the way I've grown very appreciative of the wind energy 
siting process we have in NYS, as guided by the NYDEC  USFWS. The science 
has been much better in NY and the resulting wind build out in NY arguably 
has a lower avian fatality rate per turbine than that in Ontario. But this 
is I think partly due to geographic circumstances - New York has relatively 
good wind resource areas in upland areas of western and northern NY (areas 
of less potential bird impact) whereas Ontario's best wind resources for 
serving its population are along the shores of the Great Lakes (areas with 
more potential avian impact). These shorelines tend to concentrate diurnal 
and nocturnal bird migration and there is accordingly more risk of wind 
turbine collision impact. New York has only one wind project on the Great 
Lakes shoreline (Steel Winds project near Buffalo) whereas Ontario now has 
many.  The whole northern lake shore of Lake Erie is essentially under wind 
development and the north shore of Lake Ontario is not far behind (e.g., the 
Amherst Is. wind project).


To give an egregious example of the lack of wind energy science in Ontario, 
the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources (equivalent of our NYDEC) only 
required the fatality study at Wolfe Island Wind Project (and other wind 
projects in Ontario) to survey out 50 m from the base of wind turbines for 
bird and bat carcasses. The resulting avian fatality rate figures were then 
reported to the public as the actual fatality rate of the project(s). The 
problem with this is that US fatality studies show that similarly high 
turbines toss bird carcasses out to at least 100 m away from the wind 
turbine support tower. This was demonstrated in fatality studies at NY's 
Maple Ridge Wind Project, 70 km southeast of Wolfe Island, part of which 
preceded and was in print prior to the Wolfe Island fatality study. This 
latter study and other US studies are the basis for concluding that 50% of 
the bird carcasses at modern wind turbines are lofted beyond 50 m. In order 
to estimate avian fatality rates at wind projects, one must not only make a 
statistical correction for carcasses lost to scavengers (raccoons, etc.) and 
surveyor efficiency (measured skill of surveyors in finding carcasses), one 
needs to correct for the full area where carcasses may fall that is not 
surveyed.  So, for most of the existing Ontario wind energy fatality data, 
one needs to begin by multiplying by two to get closer to reality on the 
number of birds killed.


This was recently noted by Environment Canada in the following paper 
published last year:


Zimmerling, J. R., A. C. Pomeroy, M. V. d'Entremont, and C. M. Francis. 
2013. Canadian estimate of bird mortality due to collisions and direct 
habitat loss associated with wind turbine developments. Avian Conservation 
and Ecology 8(2): 10. http://dx.doi.org/10.5751/ACE-00609-080210


This paper is one of the better overviews I've seen. Unfortunately the 
authors conclusions regarding the impact of wind energy on Canadian bird 
populations is tainted by the fact that they used antiquated Partners in 
Flight (PIF) population estimates from the 1990s without informing the 
reader. Updated PIF population estimates were released last year, apparently 
after the paper went to press.  So, for example they estimate, based on 
Canadian fatality data, that 465 Purple Martins are currently killed by wind 
turbines in Canada every year. They conclude that this is inconsequential 
because they cite a population estimate (base in 1990 PIF data) of 523,000 
martins. This translates to less that 0.1% of the population and doesn't 
tend to raise any red flags. But the more recent PIF estimate for martins 
(based on early 2000s data) is only 200,000. And what they don't tell you is 
that based on the Ontario Breeding Bird Atlas, the martin population in 
Ontario (where almost all of the martin-killing wind energy is located) is 
only estimated to be 25,000. The martin population has been in a long-term 
free-fall of 5-8% per year in Ontario for other reasons, but current wind 
collision mortality to martins is estimated to be adding an additional 3% to 
the annual decline -- and the wind energy build out in Ontario continues 
unabated.  The future of the Purple Martin in Ontario looked grim, but now 
looks increasingly grim.


Three years of fatality data are publically available for the Wolfe Island 
Wind Farm.* These studies indicate that only 8, 5, and 3 martin carcasses 
respectively were found in each of the three years. What you won't find, 
unless you look at the transcripts of my written testimonies for two wind 
project appeal hearings in Canada, is that when you factor in the 
statistical corrections, the martin fatality estimates at the Wolfe Island 
Wind Project jump to 112, 126, and 36 for each of the first three years of 
the study.  The drop in the 

[cayugabirds-l] Freese Road Larks, Compost Glaucous

2014-03-06 Thread Brad Walker
Hi all,

After lunch today (at about 1:15), Tim Lenz and I had a group of between 30
and 50 HORNED LARKS in the field across from the Ithaca Community Gardens
on Freese Road. They seemed to be frequenting the patch that had truck
tracks all over it. Many of the birds were very dull and brown, appearing
pipit-like from a distance. They may move closer to Hanshaw later when the
farm crew is done spreading manure there.

We also had a pair of GLAUCOUS GULLS at the compost piles before that.


- Brad

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[cayugabirds-l] chickadees and climate change

2014-03-06 Thread Laura Stenzler
Scott Taylor, a postdoc in Irby Lovette's Evolutionary Biology lab at the 
Cornell Lab of Ornithology, is lead author on a study of Black-capped and 
Carolina Chickadee hybridization and the effects of climate change on their 
distribution.  (Current Biology 24, 1-6, March 17, 2014, Climate-mediated 
Movement of an Avian Hybrid Zone.).

Here's an article in the Cornell Chronicle describing his work.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2014/03/warming-temperatures-push-chickadees-northward

Laura

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[cayugabirds-l] Robins and cedar waxings

2014-03-06 Thread Michael O. Engle
A large group of robins and cedar waxwings have been coming and going from the 
red oak tree just north of Olin Library in the Arts Quad for hours. Many more 
cedar waxwings are gathered in the pine trees near the southeast corner of Olin 
Library by Stimson Hall right now.

Michael

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[cayugabirds-l] Mt. Pleasant = eagles, etc.

2014-03-06 Thread Susan Fast
As the day looked good for eagle watching, I went up on Mt. Pleasant, arriving 
at 1100 and vowing to stay until 1400.  There was an active flock of 25  SNOW 
BUNTINGS foraging about, and at one point, most perched on the utility wires 
near the towers.  The wind picked up, gusting from the SE, which was not 
pleasant, but typical.
I was contemplating a hot lunch at 1350 when the dark phase ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK 
appeared, flapping and gliding, over the conifers to the south.  While watching 
it, a very large, dark bird loomed up beyond, which proved to be an adult 
GOLDEN EAGLE.  It spiraled up, eventually getting lost in the sun.  Juiced up, 
I decided to stay a bit longer, and at 1410 an immature BALD EAGLE appeared to 
the east.  Eagle quota filled, hands numb, outta there.

Steve Fast
Brooktondale

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread John Confer

  
  
Clearly, the FAA is not acting in a
  responsible manner.
  
  The IC campus has numerous ornamental cherry trees, some very
  close to the center of campus and in locations with heavy human
  traffic. Cedar Waxwing flocks, occasionally as large as several
  hundred, eat the berries on these trees in late fall and on spring
  return in early spring. If you squeeze the berries, they sure do
  smell like an alcoholic fruit drink. Without any scientific
  evidence, I've always assumed that it was fermented.
  
  Supporting the fermentation possibility is that
  1. The birds eating the fermented berries can be absurdly tame,
  allowing nearly a hundred students to walk by with 2 to 15 m as
  class changes.
  2. A great many of the birds kill themselves against the nearby
  plate glass windows, far more than I would expect if they weren't
  flying while under the influence. I suppose I have seen at least
  20 dead below windows.
  3. Even more convincing, I have seen an additional 10-20 lying
  dead beneath the trees. I never thought of alcohol poisoning,
  which now seems possible. In several instances the birds had
  berries half swallowed in their throat or in the gap of their
  mouth. I thought they got drunk and then suffocated themselves. 
  
  Keven mentioned the major selective pressure against eating
  fermented berries and drunken behavior. Similarly, there have been
  fatal consequences among students on our campuses due to drinking
  in the last several years, yet students do continue to get smashed
  (a quite appropriate word). I guess that for waxwings, the choice
  at some time and place may be starvation or drunkenness. 
  
  John
  
  
  On 3/6/2014 12:56 PM, Weinberg, Kathy C. wrote:


  
  
  

  Besides, the FAA will not allow the
  birds to fly with elevated blood alcohol levels.
  

  
  
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I am just speculating, but my thoughts
  are:
  
  * The drying process would preserve the fruit because the
  yeasts might be unable to function without water (I
  surmise), just as the bacteria cannot function with low
  water and high sugar concentrations (my understanding of
  why drying preserves fruit).
  * Any alcohol in the fruit would be as apt to evaporate as
  the water, or maybe more so, ethanol boiling at a lower
  temperature than water.
  
  * The birds would need water to reconstitute and digest
  the concentrated fruit. When I eat very dry food, my
  stomach hurts unless I also drink water, I think because
  the dried food draws too much water from my stomach. Water
  is needed for digestion generally to break up many larger
  molecules, although oxidation later on also creates water
  which I assume can be used for this. Birds don't carry
  around extra water. I often see waxwings drinking, and I
  think that's why.
  * I'm skeptical that birds who rely on old fruit have
  issues with inebriation. Birds are so finely tuned for
  flying that the drunks wouldn't survive, either hitting
  something or getting eaten. The selection pressure would
  be enormous. I think either there isn't much alcohol out
  there, or they know how to avoid it.
  * Cedar Waxwings are a bit quirky and different from other
  birds, 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Inebriation in birds

2014-03-06 Thread Anne Clark
This may be of interest to the discussion. I cannot find it now, but there was 
one other common berry (Serviceberry?  I think not) connected with waxwing 
suicides against glass.  We have had regular deaths on (stupid) reflecting 
glass (-my hawk shapes do help)  when the birds ate off one tree that I believe 
as service berry.  Now the tree has been sacrificed to an underground water 
system, problem solved.

Anne

Vet Med Int. 2010; 2010: 818159.
Published online Dec 9, 2010. doi:  10.4061/2010/818159
PMCID: PMC3005831
Feeding Behavior-Related Toxicity due to Nandina domestica in Cedar Waxwings 
(Bombycilla cedrorum)

Moges Woldemeskel* and Eloise L. Styer
Author information ► Article notes ► Copyright and License information ►
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Abstract

Dozens of Cedar Waxwings were found dead in Thomas County, Georgia, USA, in 
April 2009. Five of these were examined grossly and microscopically. Grossly, 
all the examined birds had pulmonary, mediastinal, and tracheal hemorrhages. 
Microscopically, several tissues and organs were diffusely congested and 
hemorrhagic. Congestion and hemorrhage were marked in the lungs. Intact and 
partly digested berries of Nandina domestica Thunb. were the only ingesta found 
in the gastrointestinal tract of these birds. Due to their voracious feeding 
behavior, the birds had eaten toxic doses of N. domestica berries. N. domestica 
contains cyanide and is one of the few berries readily available at this time 
of the year in the region. The gross and microscopic findings are consistent 
with lesions associated with cyanide toxicity. This paper for the first time 
documents toxicity associated with N. domestica in Cedar Waxwings.

On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:57 PM, John Confer wrote:

 Clearly, the FAA is not acting in a responsible manner.
 
 The IC campus has numerous ornamental cherry trees, some very close to the 
 center of campus and in locations with heavy human traffic. Cedar Waxwing 
 flocks, occasionally as large as several hundred, eat the berries on these 
 trees in late fall and on spring return in early spring. If you squeeze the 
 berries, they sure do smell like an alcoholic fruit drink. Without any 
 scientific evidence, I've always assumed that it was fermented.
 
 Supporting the fermentation possibility is that
 1. The birds eating the fermented berries can be absurdly tame, allowing 
 nearly a hundred students to walk by with 2 to 15 m as class changes.
 2. A great many of the birds kill themselves against the nearby plate glass 
 windows, far more than I would expect if they weren't flying while under the 
 influence. I suppose I have seen at least 20 dead below windows.
 3. Even more convincing, I have seen an additional 10-20 lying dead beneath 
 the trees. I never thought of alcohol poisoning, which now seems possible. In 
 several instances the birds had berries half swallowed in their throat or in 
 the gap of their mouth. I thought they got drunk and then suffocated 
 themselves. 
 
 Keven mentioned the major selective pressure against eating fermented berries 
 and drunken behavior. Similarly, there have been fatal consequences among 
 students on our campuses due to drinking in the last several years, yet 
 students do continue to get smashed (a quite appropriate word). I guess that 
 for waxwings, the choice at some time and place may be starvation or 
 drunkenness. 
 
 John
 
 
 On 3/6/2014 12:56 PM, Weinberg, Kathy C. wrote:
 Besides, the FAA will not allow the birds to fly with elevated blood alcohol 
 levels.
 
  
 
 Kathy C. Weinberg
 
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 I am just speculating, but my thoughts are:
 
 * The drying process would preserve the fruit because the yeasts might be 
 unable to function without water (I surmise), just as the bacteria cannot 
 function with low water and high sugar concentrations (my understanding of 
 why drying preserves fruit).
 * Any alcohol in the fruit would be as apt to evaporate as the water, or 
 maybe more so, ethanol boiling at a lower temperature than water. 
 * The birds would need water to reconstitute and digest the concentrated 
 fruit. When I eat very dry food, my stomach hurts unless I also 

[cayugabirds-l] Inebriated robins in FL

2014-03-06 Thread John and Fritzie Blizzard
My Mother used to tell about when she lived there back in the '70s, how robins 
became inebriated nearly every yr. in St. Petersburg, FL from eating the fruit 
of the Florida Holly, a non-native invasive tree known as the Brazilian Pepper, 
an exotic that can grow to 40 ft.. Newspapers usually printed pictures ... 
seemed the colder the weather, the more the fruit would ferment. The same 
unripe fruit can be fatal to horses. It causes allergic reactions  severe 
intestinal problems in some people. 

Fritzie
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[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca Red-necked Grebes, etc

2014-03-06 Thread Dave Nutter
Today I walked to the lake along NYS-89. The main ice shelf was just shy of the piling cluster in the middle of the lake (out from #877), but considerable extra ice extended farther north along the shores. On the east, thin sheets, not all of them attached, were in front of the houses but not to the hill on NYS-34. On the west an irregular but more solid shelf ended near #971 NYS-89, where I scoped between houses and through trees. I was hoping I might track down Carl's Surf Scoters, because I'd seen some dark ducks from the taxi yesterday, but either they left or it was a mistaken backlit impression. I saw no scoters at all, and diversity and numbers of waterfowl were down. I suspect they are gathering at the north end of the lake. There were COMMON GOLDENEYES and COMMON MERGANSERS dispersed on the lake, the latter around the ice edge as well, as were CANVASBACKS, but there were only a few REDHEADS, a handful of MALLARDS, LESSER SCAUPS, BUFFLEHEADS, and HOODED MERGANSERS, and a single male RED-BREASTED MERGANSER. One unusual find was an immature GLAUCOUS GULL on the ice near the east shore, standing slightly apart from the numerous HERRING and not-so-numerous GREAT BLACK-BACKED and RING-BILLED GULLS. The most exciting find for me was 3 winter plumage RED-NECKED GREBES fairly close to the west shore, 2 resting near one another (1 with head tucked) and the third diving. These are new for my Ithaca and Luddite lists for the year. Thanks for all the examples of inebriated birds. I still find it surprising and wonder how often it happens. The fact that I've never seen it myself makes me feel like I don't get out enough. I want to plant trees that will bear fruit attractive CEDAR WAXWINGS and other frugivores, but I don't want to intoxicate them, so I'd appreciate more notes on what trees' (other than palms) fruit ferments dangerously.--Dave Nutter
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