RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access
Ralph Lott Farms are what I call the Seneca County Fairgrounds. 315 568-9501 I always get an answering machine; ask permission, leave my name and # with a description of the vehicle I will be driving. They have been very generous in giving people access. Gary From: bounce-116574009-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-116574009-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Dreelin Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:51 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access Hi all, Eric Sibbald and I are headed up to the Montezuma area today, and we would like to see Upland Sandpipers. I understand that the fairgrounds where they're seen reliably is restricted access. Does anyone know how I can go about obtaining permission? Is there a number I can call? Please contact me off-list via email (randrew...@gmail.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp/972/?source=naphr=1hl=en), or phone (706-587-9312). Thank you very much! Happy birding, Andrew Dreelin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access
The Lott Farm on the NE corner of NYS-414 and Martin Rd (aka Airport Rd) south of Seneca Falls (Martin Rd is the Seneca Falls - Fayette town line) is private, although the Empire State Farm Days event is held there for a few days late each summer. There is another fairgrounds in Seneca Falls, so to avoid ambiguity and help everyone respect the fact that it is private, I think we should call it the Lott Farm, not the Fairgrounds. So far, the folks at eBird have not made this switch. With its extensive grasslands this farm is, as far as I know, the only reliable place around the Cayuga Lake Basin to find Upland Sandpipers. It's also great for other grassland birds. Fortunately the owners have been very gracious in the past about allowing access when birders either call them (315) 568-9501 or visit their office in the building complex near the intersection. They have asked for vehicle descriptions, times when people will be there, and requested that birders stay on the gravel roadways. I know you asked for a private reply, Andrew, but this is a great place that I think all local birders should know about and how to access. --Dave Nutter On Jun 26, 2014, at 09:51 AM, Andrew Dreelin randrew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Eric Sibbald and I are headed up to the Montezuma area today, and we would like to see Upland Sandpipers. I understand that the fairgrounds where they're seen reliably is restricted access. Does anyone know how I can go about obtaining permission? Is there a number I can call? Please contact me off-list via email (randrew...@gmail.com), or phone (706-587-9312). Thank you very much! Happy birding, Andrew Dreelin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access
TMI on Seneca Falls and fairgrounds: There actually /is/ something called the Seneca County Fairgrounds, but they have nothing to do with the Lott Farms and in fact are in Waterloo, on the north edge of the village off Swift Street. Every year the Seneca County Fair is held there in mid-July. So far as I know there aren't any interesting birds there although there are lots of sheds on the property so, who knows, maybe Monk Parakeets have moved in! The Lott Farms used to be a working farm but for the last 25 years or so, it mostly has hosted Empire State Farm Days in early August each year. This is probably where the idea that it is a fairgrounds began, but that is just a private arrangement between the NYS Potato Growers Assn and the Lotts - Empire State Farm Days essentially is an Agricultural Expo by businesses who want to sell farming related stuff. Maybe the Lott Farm should be referred to by its own name to avoid confusion, just in case Parakeets do invade the real Seneca County Fairgrounds? Alicia - Original Message - From: Gary Kohlenberg jg...@cornell.edu To: randrew...@gmail.com randrew...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Cc: Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:38:31 + Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access Ralph Lott Farms are what I call the Seneca County Fairgrounds. *315 568-9501* I always get an answering machine; ask permission, leave my name and # with a description of the vehicle I will be driving. They have been very generous in giving people access. Gary *From:*bounce-116574009-3493...@list.cornell.edu mailto:bounce-116574009-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-116574009-3493999@list.cornelledu mailto:bounce-116574009-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Dreelin *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:51 AM *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Fairgrounds Access Hi all, Eric Sibbald and I are headed up to the Montezuma area today, and we would like to see Upland Sandpipers. I understand that the fairgrounds where they're seen reliably is restricted access. Does anyone know how I can go about obtaining permission? Is there a number I can call? Please contact me off-list via email (randrew...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp/972/?source=naphr=1hl=en), or phone (706-587-9312). Thank you very much! Happy birding, Andrew Dreelin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
