Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry Related molecules

2011-08-05 Thread Thomas Holder

On 08/05/2011 05:22 AM, Albert Guskov wrote:

have a look at SuperSym plugin for pymol
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/SuperSym


Or the Supercell script. It has less features than SuperSym but does not 
require cctbx module.


http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Supercell

Cheers,
  Thomas

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Thomas Holder
MPI for Developmental Biology
Spemannstr. 35
D-72076 Tübingen


Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry related molecules

2011-08-05 Thread Ramanuj Banerjee
symmetry related molecules can be generated in pymol by :
1. opening the coordinates in pymol
2. Actions, generate, symmetry mates, radius


[ccp4bb] MR with ensemble containing multiple models

2011-08-05 Thread G Y
Dear all,

I have several similar models which can be superimposed. (looks like NMR
solved structure) Then I made those superimposed models to be a single
ensemble in phaser.

My question is:

what would be the difference of running phaser with this kind of ensemble
and with an ensemble which include only one model? As I have B factor
information in PDB, the uncertainty in model has already been considered
even if I just provide one model. Is that right? Would that really be more
helpful to test an ensemble with multiple models superimposed?

What would happen if those superimposed models are not quite similar, or
they can not superimposed well( some distance between them can be observed)?

Many thanks,
G


Re: [ccp4bb] MR with ensemble containing multiple models

2011-08-05 Thread Dr G. Bunkoczi

Hi G,


Dear all,

I have several similar models which can be superimposed. (looks like NMR
solved structure) Then I made those superimposed models to be a single
ensemble in phaser.

My question is:

what would be the difference of running phaser with this kind of ensemble
and with an ensemble which include only one model? As I have B factor
information in PDB, the uncertainty in model has already been considered
even if I just provide one model. Is that right? Would that really be more
helpful to test an ensemble with multiple models superimposed?


Although I am not aware of any systematic study, there are indications that 
an ensemble can be a better model than a single model with B-factor 
weighting (check out the phaser MR tutorial with toxd). For one thing, an 
ensemble will weight up the structurally conserved parts of the model, 
while this is not guaranteed with B-factors (although both tends to weight 
up the core and weight down the surface). Also, B-factors are normally 
restricted to describe an isotropic uncertainty, but ensembles can describe 
complex motions of loops, etc.




What would happen if those superimposed models are not quite similar, or 
they can not superimposed well( some distance between them can be 
observed)?


It is possibly a good idea to do a weighted superposition, so that only the 
structurally similar parts are superposed (this is automatically done by 
the SSM algorithm). If there are still major deviations, you can consider 
trimming these residues away. This is something that can be done 
automatically with ensembler (currently in PHENIX, but eventually to be 
included in CCP4 as well).


BW, Gabor



Many thanks,
G



Re: [ccp4bb] Mixed Iso/Aniso in refmac5

2011-08-05 Thread Boaz Shaanan
I think Garib has looked into this and introduced an option to specify residues 
range for iso/aniso B refinement in one of the latest refmac versions. He'll 
probably jump into the thread soon to clarify this option.

  Boaz

Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
Dept. of Life Sciences
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer-Sheva 84105
Israel

E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il
Phone: 972-8-647-2220  Skype: boaz.shaanan
Fax:   972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710






From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Ethan Merritt 
[merr...@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:26 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Mixed Iso/Aniso in refmac5

On Thursday, 04 August 2011, Yuri Pompeu wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 How does refmac5 pick atoms for B-factor refinement, particularly with the 
 mixed option enabled?

In the MIX option, it simply keeps the atom treatment as it is given
in the input file.  Atoms with an ANISOU record are refined anisotropically,
the remaining atoms are not.

In the case of modeling anisotropy using TLS, the atom selection is done
in a separate file *.tls or *.tlsin.

Ethan



 I dont see a place for entering a manual selection, eg resname FMN...
 Thank you



Re: [ccp4bb] TLS and ANISOU/RESIDUAL B-FACTORS - doubt

2011-08-05 Thread Rachel Kramer Green

Dear Catarina,

When TLS is involved in refinement using a script, the keyword tlsout 
addu should be added to produce a coordinate file containing the full B 
factor. The latest REFMAC interface (in CCP4i) has a button Add TLS 
contribution to XYZOUT in the folder of TLS Parameters which will add 
this keyword.


There are three ways to convert file so it contains full B factors:

1. You can convert your PDB file so it contains full B factors using the 
server at http://deposit.rcsb.org/adit/REFMAC.html


2. Convert locally using the script at 
http://deposit-beta.rcsb.org/tlsanl/tlsanl_script.csh


Run tlsanl_script.csh pdbfile
(note: CCP4 should be installed on your local machine prior to running 
the script)


3. Convert using CCP4i package

* Find the file of TLS parameters TLSOUT that corresponds to the 
coordinate file, or if necessary extract the TLS parameters from the PDB 
file using the CCP4 program tlsextract


* Use CCP4's tlsanl to put the full B factor in the PDB coordinate file, 
available in the GUI interface as the task Analyse TLS parameters. Be 
sure to set the keyword BRESID T in this interface.


Please let us know if we can be of any further help.

Sincerely,
Rachel Green

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On 8/3/2011 1:47 PM, Catarina Silva wrote:

Dear all,
I am trying to deposit a pdb containing TLS groups. PDB instructions 
states:
As we have mentioned on the start page for autodep, entries refined 
using REFMAC with TLS parameters must now contain the full B-factor in 
ATOM/HETATM records, with the TLS contribution coded into ANISOU records.
I did run Refmac with TLS parameters and, as such, I would expect that 
all the values necessary to pdb deposition would be on the pdb coming 
out from refmac. However, when I deposit the pdb a 'serious error' 
comes up, not allowing me to deposit the coordinates:
You will NOT be allowed to proceed for deposition unless these issues 
are corrected.

*TLS and ANISOU/RESIDUAL B-FACTORS.*
As we have mentioned on the start page for autodep, entries refined 
using REFMAC with TLS parameters must now contain the full B-factor in 
ATOM/HETATM records, with the TLS contribution coded into ANISOU 
records.Your entry contains TLS records but no ANISOU records OR 
Residual B-factors. Please correct this and reupload your structure 
for validation
I don't really understand why these supposed missing values are not 
already contained in the pdb file, and I can't figure out how to get 
them. Does anyone knows how to fix this situation?

Thanks in advance!
Catarina Silva


Re: [ccp4bb] Mixed Iso/Aniso in refmac5

2011-08-05 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Thank you for reminding me.
There is a way to define residue ranges for mixed refinement. I think I did it 
by Boaz's request.

Keyword should be something like (there are ways of selecting particular atoms 
of residues, but I am not sure I have tested that thoroughly):

brefine mixed anisou residues from resnumber chain to resnumber chain 
atoms list of atoms


Full description of the keywords for mixed refinement is in this document 
(anisotropic refinement section):
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/data/refmac_news.html

Thus option should be available from the latest ccp4 (but you need to use 
keyword, there is no buttons for this on the interface yet)
Please let me know if it does not do what it is designed for.

Regards
Garib


On 5 Aug 2011, at 11:51, Boaz Shaanan wrote:

 I think Garib has looked into this and introduced an option to specify 
 residues range for iso/aniso B refinement in one of the latest refmac 
 versions. He'll probably jump into the thread soon to clarify this option.
 
  Boaz
 
 Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
 Dept. of Life Sciences
 Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
 Beer-Sheva 84105
 Israel
 
 E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il
 Phone: 972-8-647-2220  Skype: boaz.shaanan
 Fax:   972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Ethan Merritt 
 [merr...@u.washington.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:26 PM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Mixed Iso/Aniso in refmac5
 
 On Thursday, 04 August 2011, Yuri Pompeu wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 How does refmac5 pick atoms for B-factor refinement, particularly with the 
 mixed option enabled?
 
 In the MIX option, it simply keeps the atom treatment as it is given
 in the input file.  Atoms with an ANISOU record are refined anisotropically,
 the remaining atoms are not.
 
 In the case of modeling anisotropy using TLS, the atom selection is done
 in a separate file *.tls or *.tlsin.
 
Ethan
 
 
 
 I dont see a place for entering a manual selection, eg resname FMN...
 Thank you
 

Garib N Murshudov 
Structural Studies Division
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Hills Road 
Cambridge 
CB2 0QH UK
Email: ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk 
Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk





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2011-08-05 Thread Mark Benson
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[ccp4bb] [CCP4] movie for side chain flip

2011-08-05 Thread WENHE ZHONG
Hi all,

Sorry for a little bit out of topic question. Morph Serve is the only online
server I know to make movie for protein motion. But what I want to do is to
make a movie to show one single side chain flip. It seems Morph could not do
this.  Does anyone know a way to do that? Thank you.

King regards,
Wenhe


Re: [ccp4bb] [CCP4] movie for side chain flip

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 15:48 +0100, WENHE ZHONG wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry for a little bit out of topic question. Morph Serve is the only
 online server I know to make movie for protein motion. But what I want
 to do is to make a movie to show one single side chain flip. It seems
 Morph could not do this.  Does anyone know a way to do that? Thank
 you.
 
 King regards,
 Wenhe

You can make morphs using Chimera 

http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Morph_with_Chimera

In this case, all you will need will be the two models with everything
identical except the flipped side chain.

-- 
Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?
Julian, King of Lemurs


Re: [ccp4bb] TLS and ANISOU/RESIDUAL B-FACTORS - doubt

2011-08-05 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Rachel Kramer Green kra...@rcsb.rutgers.edu
 wrote:

 **
 (...)

 There are three ways to convert file so it contains full B factors:
 (...)


in fact, more:

4. The command

phenix.tls model.pdb combine_tls=true

will combine TLS from PDB file header with 'residual' B from ATOM records.

phenix.tls model.pdb extract_tls=true

will split the total B-factor in ATOM records into TLS component and
'residual' part.

Pavel.


Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry Related molecules

2011-08-05 Thread Yuri

Thank you all,
Best

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:19:55 +0200, Thomas Holder wrote:

On 08/05/2011 05:22 AM, Albert Guskov wrote:

have a look at SuperSym plugin for pymol
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/SuperSym


Or the Supercell script. It has less features than SuperSym but does
not require cctbx module.

http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Supercell

Cheers,
  Thomas


--
Yuri Pompeu


[ccp4bb] [CCP4]data processing I222 vs pointless I121

2011-08-05 Thread WENHE ZHONG
Hi All,

Recently I did some soaking experiments for crystals. Most of them did not
change their space group (I222). But one of them seems to be a little bit
different (I222 --- I121).
The following is the pointless data: (the data was processed by Mosflm under
space group I222)

   Laue GroupLklhd   NetZc  Zc+   Zc-CCCC-  Rmeas   R-
Delta ReindexOperator

 1  I 1 2/m 1  **   0.687   2.55  8.25  5.71   0.83  0.57   0.32  0.52
0.0 [-h,-k,l]
 2   P -1   0.171   2.02  8.54  6.52   0.85  0.65   0.32  0.45
0.0 [-h,-k,1/2h+1/2k+1/2l]
- 3I m m m   0.050   6.98  6.98  0.00   0.70  0.00   0.42  0.00
0.0 [h,k,l]
  4  I 1 2/m 1   0.050   0.22  7.09  6.87   0.71  0.69   0.42  0.42
0.0 [k,-h,l]
  5  I 1 2/m 1   0.043   0.06  7.05  6.99   0.70  0.70   0.42  0.42
0.0 [h,-l,k]

Best Solution:space group I 1 2 1

   Reindex operator:  [-h,-k,l]
   Laue group probability: 0.687
   Systematic absence probability: 1.000
   Total probability:  0.687
   Space group confidence: 0.595
   Laue group confidence   0.595

   Unit cell:   104.1  108.6  264.890 90 90

   54.32 to   3.41   - Resolution range used for Laue group search

   54.32 to   2.25   - Resolution range in file, used for systematic absence
check

   Number of batches in file:400

The data do not appear to be twinned, from the L-test
:

WARNING:
The chosen output crystal system is different from that used for integration
of the input file(s).
You should rerun the integration in the chosen crystal system because the
cell constraints differ.

The input crystal system is body-centred orthorhombic
 (Cell:   104.1  108.6  264.890 90 90)
The crystal system chosen for output is body-centred monoclinic
 (Cell:   104.1  108.6  264.890 90 90)

I couldn't see the difference between I222 and I121. May I ask do I need to
go back to the Mosflm process step and choose other space group for the
processing? Thank you.

King regards,
Wenhe