Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[John Berrisford]

There are 3 lists of authors associated with a PDB deposition. 

1. PDB entry authors - listed in audit_author in the public mmCIF / author 
record in the legacy PDB format
2. citation authors - listed in citation_author in the public mmCIF / JRNL 
record in the legacy PDB format
3. Contact authors directly involved with the PDB deposition - with whom we 
communicate during deposition. Information collected about these authors is not 
made public. This information is stored internally within the wwPDB. 

ORCiD's are only required for the 3rd set and this information is not made 
public. We do provide the option of providing ORCiDs for groups 1 and 2, but it 
is not mandatory.

For more details please see the wwPDB policy on authorship:
https://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/policy#toc_authorship

For our privacy information please see
https://www.wwpdb.org/about/privacy

Both of these pages are linked from the OneDep deposition system. 


I hope this helps

Regards

John
PDBe

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From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of V F
Sent: 09 April 2019 14:34
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij  wrote:
> Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID 
> on behalf of the collaborator?

Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)!

> That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...
>
> Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author 
> of the PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper 
> are also on the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but 
> if a
> (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he 
> or she doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry.
>
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology 
> Communications http://journals.iucr.org/f/
>
>
>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID 
>> is not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name 
>> etc to the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not?
>>
>> Tassos
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for 
>>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want 
>>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create 
>>> ORCID) Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are 
>>> going to /dev/null?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> VF
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Christine Gee]

Hi all,

I just submitted a PDB deposition where two of the deposition authors did
not have an ORCID and it went through fine. As long as the corresponding
author (ie the person submitting the PDB) and the PI has the ID I think it
will work.

Regards
Christine



On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 8:34 AM Mark J van Raaij 
wrote:

> to be honest, I would want to be an author on the paper (especially in a
> "glossy" :-)), but perhaps not on all the database entries...only the ones
> I actively contributed to.
> I agree being on the paper involves accepting responsibility for all the
> work, and often it is impossible to really be fully responsible, because it
> would imply checking (i.e. redoing) much of it, but at least in the paper
> byline it should say who did what, giving some "safety" if something turns
> out wrong with the omics or the mice, but the structure(s) being fine.
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology
> Communications
> http://journals.iucr.org/f/
>
>
> On 9 Apr 2019, at 17:22, Phoebe A. Rice  wrote:
>
> Very good point, and a good argument against the current trend of
> publications in the glossies including everything from mice to omics to
> structure all in one manuscript with one set of authors.  Especially since
> it is being pointed out more vociferously these days (as it should be) that
> accepting authorship implies accepting responsibility.
>
>- Phoebe
>
>
> *From: *CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Mark J
> van Raaij 
> *Reply-To: *Mark J van Raaij 
> *Date: *Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM
> *To: *"CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" 
> *Subject: *Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions
>
> There is something to be said for not everyone being an author of the PDB
> entry anyway.
> If I were a non structural biologist who for example had made and tested
> some essential knock-out mice for the paper, I might prefer not to be an
> author of the PDB entry in case there was something wrong with it (which I
> might not necessarily be able to judge).
> Similarly, as a structural biologist I might prefer not to be on the
> knock-out mice database entry in case there was something wrong or
> unethical in the way the mice were made...
>
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology
> Communications
> http://journals.iucr.org/f/
>
>
> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:49, Robbie Joosten 
> wrote:
>
> Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could
> indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without
> consent.
>
> So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a
> collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that
> collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not
> your fault as your hands are tied here.
>
> HTH,
> Robbie
>
> On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F  wrote:
>
> On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij  wrote:
> > Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on
> > behalf of the collaborator?
>
> Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)!
>
> > That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...
> >
> > Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of
> the
> > PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also
> on
> > the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a
> > (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or
> she
> > doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry.
> >
> >
> > Mark J van Raaij
> > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> > calle Darwin 3
> > E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> > Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology
> > Communications
> > http://journals.iucr.org/f/
> >
> >
> >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote:
>
> >>
> >> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is
>
> >> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to
>
>

Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Mark J van Raaij]

to be honest, I would want to be an author on the paper (especially in a 
"glossy" :-)), but perhaps not on all the database entries...only the ones I 
actively contributed to.
I agree being on the paper involves accepting responsibility for all the work, 
and often it is impossible to really be fully responsible, because it would 
imply checking (i.e. redoing) much of it, but at least in the paper byline it 
should say who did what, giving some "safety" if something turns out wrong with 
the omics or the mice, but the structure(s) being fine.

Mark J van Raaij
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
calle Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology Communications
http://journals.iucr.org/f/


> On 9 Apr 2019, at 17:22, Phoebe A. Rice  wrote:
> 
> Very good point, and a good argument against the current trend of 
> publications in the glossies including everything from mice to omics to 
> structure all in one manuscript with one set of authors.  Especially since it 
> is being pointed out more vociferously these days (as it should be) that 
> accepting authorship implies accepting responsibility.
> Phoebe
>  
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> on behalf of Mark J van Raaij 
> mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es>>
> Reply-To: Mark J van Raaij  <mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es>>
> Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM
> To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" 
> mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions
>  
> There is something to be said for not everyone being an author of the PDB 
> entry anyway.
> If I were a non structural biologist who for example had made and tested some 
> essential knock-out mice for the paper, I might prefer not to be an author of 
> the PDB entry in case there was something wrong with it (which I might not 
> necessarily be able to judge).
> Similarly, as a structural biologist I might prefer not to be on the 
> knock-out mice database entry in case there was something wrong or unethical 
> in the way the mice were made...
>  
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij 
> <http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij>
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology Communications
> http://journals.iucr.org/f/ <http://journals.iucr.org/f/>
>  
>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:49, Robbie Joosten > <mailto:robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could 
>> indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without 
>> consent.
>>  
>> So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a 
>> collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that 
>> collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not 
>> your fault as your hands are tied here.
>>  
>> HTH,
>> Robbie
>>  
>> On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F > <mailto:veronicapfiorent...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij >> <mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es>> wrote: 
>>> > Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on 
>>> > behalf of the collaborator? 
>>> 
>>> Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)! 
>>> 
>>> > That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted... 
>>> > 
>>> > Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of 
>>> > the 
>>> > PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also 
>>> > on 
>>> > the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a 
>>> > (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or 
>>> > she 
>>> > doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry. 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Mark J van Raaij 
>>> > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas 
>>> > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC 
>>> > calle Darwin 3 
>>> > E-28049 Madrid, Spain 
>>> > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 
>>> > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij 
>>> > <http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij> 
>>> > Section Editor of Acta Crystallogra

Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Phoebe A. Rice]

Very good point, and a good argument against the current trend of publications 
in the glossies including everything from mice to omics to structure all in one 
manuscript with one set of authors.  Especially since it is being pointed out 
more vociferously these days (as it should be) that accepting authorship 
implies accepting responsibility.

  *   Phoebe

From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Mark J van Raaij 

Reply-To: Mark J van Raaij 
Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM
To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

There is something to be said for not everyone being an author of the PDB entry 
anyway.
If I were a non structural biologist who for example had made and tested some 
essential knock-out mice for the paper, I might prefer not to be an author of 
the PDB entry in case there was something wrong with it (which I might not 
necessarily be able to judge).
Similarly, as a structural biologist I might prefer not to be on the knock-out 
mice database entry in case there was something wrong or unethical in the way 
the mice were made...

Mark J van Raaij
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
calle Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology Communications
http://journals.iucr.org/f/

On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:49, Robbie Joosten 
mailto:robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could 
indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without 
consent.

So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a 
collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that 
collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not your 
fault as your hands are tied here.

HTH,
Robbie

On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F 
mailto:veronicapfiorent...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij 
mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es>> wrote:
> Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on
> behalf of the collaborator?

Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)!

> That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...
>
> Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of the
> PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also on
> the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a
> (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or she
> doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry.
>
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology
> Communications
> http://journals.iucr.org/f/
>
>
>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis 
>> mailto:a.perra...@nki.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is
>> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to
>> the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not?
>>
>> Tassos
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F 
>>> mailto:veronicapfiorent...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for
>>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want
>>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID)
>>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to
>>> /dev/null?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> VF
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Mark J van Raaij]

There is something to be said for not everyone being an author of the PDB entry 
anyway.
If I were a non structural biologist who for example had made and tested some 
essential knock-out mice for the paper, I might prefer not to be an author of 
the PDB entry in case there was something wrong with it (which I might not 
necessarily be able to judge).
Similarly, as a structural biologist I might prefer not to be on the knock-out 
mice database entry in case there was something wrong or unethical in the way 
the mice were made...

Mark J van Raaij
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
calle Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology Communications
http://journals.iucr.org/f/


> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:49, Robbie Joosten  wrote:
> 
> Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could 
> indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without 
> consent.
> 
> So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a 
> collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that 
> collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not your 
> fault as your hands are tied here.
> 
> HTH,
> Robbie
> 
> On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F  wrote:
> On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij  wrote: 
> > Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on 
> > behalf of the collaborator? 
> 
> Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)! 
> 
> > That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted... 
> > 
> > Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of the 
> > PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also on 
> > the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a 
> > (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or 
> > she 
> > doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry. 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark J van Raaij 
> > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas 
> > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC 
> > calle Darwin 3 
> > E-28049 Madrid, Spain 
> > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 
> > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij 
> > Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology 
> > Communications 
> > http://journals.iucr.org/f/ 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is 
> >> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to 
> >> the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not? 
> >> 
> >> Tassos 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Dear all, 
> >>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for 
> >>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want 
> >>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID) 
> >>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to 
> >>> /dev/null? 
> >>> 
> >>> Many thanks, 
> >>> VF 
> >>> 
> >>>  
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Robbie Joosten]

Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could 
indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without 
consent.

So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a 
collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that 
collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not your 
fault as your hands are tied here.

HTH,
Robbie

On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F  wrote:

On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij  wrote:
> Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on
> behalf of the collaborator?

Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)!

> That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...
>
> Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of the
> PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also on
> the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a
> (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or she
> doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry.
>
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
> Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology
> Communications
> http://journals.iucr.org/f/
>
>
>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is
>> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to
>> the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not?
>>
>> Tassos
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for
>>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want
>>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID)
>>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to
>>> /dev/null?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> VF
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[V F]

On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij  wrote:
> Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on
> behalf of the collaborator?

Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)!

> That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...
>
> Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of the
> PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also on
> the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a
> (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or she
> doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry.
>
>
> Mark J van Raaij
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>
>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote:
>>
>> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is
>> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to
>> the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not?
>>
>> Tassos
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for
>>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want
>>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID)
>>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to
>>> /dev/null?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> VF
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Mark J van Raaij]

Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on behalf 
of the collaborator?
That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted...

Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of the PDB 
structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also on the PDB 
entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a (non-crystallographer?) 
collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or she doesn't have to be an 
author of the PDB entry.


Mark J van Raaij
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
calle Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology Communications
http://journals.iucr.org/f/


> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis  wrote:
> 
> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is not 
> in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to the PDB 
> anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not? 
> 
> Tassos
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for
>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want
>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID)
>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to
>> /dev/null?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> VF
>> 
>> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions

[Anastassis Perrakis]

I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is not in 
line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to the PDB 
anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not? 

Tassos


> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F  wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for
> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want
> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID)
> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to
> /dev/null?
> 
> Many thanks,
> VF
> 
> 
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