Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/17/2015 11:17 PM, aditya hilman wrote:

I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view. Also
already configured the master - slave dns.
But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which is
not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?


your master and slaves really should be geographically distributed, so 
this problem wouldn't come up.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Michael Volz
Hi Niki,

md127 apparently only uses 81.95GB per disk. Maybe one of the partitions has 
the wrong size. What's the output of lsblk?

Regards
Michael

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Hi,

I just replaced Slackware64 14.1 running on my office's HP Proliant 
Microserver with a fresh installation of CentOS 7.

The server has 4 x 250 GB disks.

Every disk is configured like this :

* 200 MB /dev/sdX1 for /boot
* 4 GB /dev/sdX2 for swap
* 248 GB /dev/sdX3 for /

There are supposed to be no spare devices.

/boot and swap are all supposed to be assembled in RAID level 1 across 4 
disks.

The / partition is supposed to be assembled in RAID level 5 across 4 disks.

With Slackware I created the arrays manually like this:

   # mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=4 --metadata=0.90
 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
   # mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=1 --raid-devices=4 --metadata=0.90
 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdd2
   # mdadm --create /dev/md3 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --metadata=0.90
 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3 /dev/sdc3 /dev/sdd3

Using this setup, I had 650 MB of disk space on /dev/md3.

Now I tried to do the same thing with CentOS 7. Everything seemed to 
work at first, but here's what I got now:

[root@nestor:~] # df -h
Sys. de fichiers Taille Utilisé Dispo Uti% Monté sur
/dev/md127 226G1,1G  213G   1% /
devtmpfs   1,4G   0  1,4G   0% /dev
tmpfs  1,4G   0  1,4G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs  1,4G8,5M  1,4G   1% /run
tmpfs  1,4G   0  1,4G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/md125 194M 80M  101M  45% /boot
/dev/sde1  917G 88M  871G   1% /mnt

The root partition (/dev/md127) only shows 226 G of space. So where has 
everything gone?

[root@nestor:~] # cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md125 : active raid1 sdc2[2] sdd2[3] sdb2[1] sda2[0]
   204736 blocks super 1.0 [4/4] []

md126 : active raid1 sdd1[3] sdc1[2] sdb1[1] sda1[0]
   4095936 blocks super 1.2 [4/4] []

md127 : active raid5 sdc3[2] sdb3[1] sdd3[4] sda3[0]
   240087552 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/4] 
[]
   bitmap: 0/1 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: none

[root@nestor:~] # mdadm -D /dev/md127
/dev/md127:
 Version : 1.2
   Creation Time : Wed Feb 18 06:49:01 2015
  Raid Level : raid5
  Array Size : 240087552 (228.97 GiB 245.85 GB)
   Used Dev Size : 80029184 (76.32 GiB 81.95 GB)
Raid Devices : 4
   Total Devices : 4
 Persistence : Superblock is persistent

   Intent Bitmap : Internal

 Update Time : Wed Feb 18 08:04:26 2015
   State : active
  Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 4
  Failed Devices : 0
   Spare Devices : 0

  Layout : left-symmetric
  Chunk Size : 512K

Name : localhost:root
UUID : cfc13fe9:8fa811d8:85649402:58c4846e
  Events : 4703

 Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
0   830  active sync   /dev/sda3
1   8   191  active sync   /dev/sdb3
2   8   352  active sync   /dev/sdc3
4   8   513  active sync   /dev/sdd3

Apparently no spare devices have been created. So why do I only have 226 
GB of disk space under CentOS, when I had roughly 650 GB under Slackware?

I'm a bit lost here. Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread Rob Kampen


On 02/18/2015 08:17 PM, aditya hilman wrote:

Hi folks,

I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view. Also
already configured the master - slave dns.
But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which is
not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?

Thanks.
Been a while since I did this, but as I recall I had to set up a second 
local IP address to transfer the external zone files so it could 
distinguish between the internal and external requests. HTH


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread g


i am going to sit the rest of this out and read Michael's book. ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 18/02/2015 09:59, Niki Kovacs a écrit :

└─sdd3  8:51   0  76,4G  0 part
   └─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /

Any idea what's going on ?


Ooops, just saw it. /dev/sdd3 apparently has the wrong size.

As to why this is so, it's a mystery.

I'll investigate further into this. (Since this is the office's gateway, 
I'll take some time to respond eventually. No server = no Internet :oD)


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Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 18.02.2015 um 12:26 schrieb Leon Fauster leonfaus...@googlemail.com:
 Am 18.02.2015 um 08:17 schrieb aditya hilman aditya.hil...@gmail.com:
 Hi folks,
 
 I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view. Also
 already configured the master - slave dns.
 But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
 Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which is
 not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
 Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?
 
 
 
 add to your external view
 
 allow-notify { local ip; };


sorry - i meant also-notify ...

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread g


On 02/18/2015 03:01 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 09:59, Niki Kovacs a écrit :
 └─sdd3  8:51   0  76,4G  0 part
└─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /

 Any idea what's going on ?

 Ooops, just saw it. /dev/sdd3 apparently has the wrong size.

 As to why this is so, it's a mystery.

 I'll investigate further into this. (Since this is the office's gateway, 
 I'll take some time to respond eventually. No server = no Internet :oD)

actually, it looks like problem is with /dev/md3, not just /dev/sdd3, as
_all_ drives are wrong in their 3rd partition.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Michael Volz
Hi Niki,

in fact all of the sdX3 partitions are of size 76.4G. Maybe they were created 
by the installer as part of a partition scheme and you forget to resize them 
when removing other partitions from the scheme? Anyway, it should be fine if 
you recreate the partitions with the right size and then recreate the array.

Michael


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spares?

Le 18/02/2015 09:59, Niki Kovacs a écrit :
 └─sdd3  8:51   0  76,4G  0 part
└─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /

 Any idea what's going on ?

Ooops, just saw it. /dev/sdd3 apparently has the wrong size.

As to why this is so, it's a mystery.

I'll investigate further into this. (Since this is the office's gateway, 
I'll take some time to respond eventually. No server = no Internet :oD)

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 18.02.2015 um 08:17 schrieb aditya hilman aditya.hil...@gmail.com:
 Hi folks,
 
 I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view. Also
 already configured the master - slave dns.
 But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
 Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which is
 not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
 Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?



add to your external view

allow-notify { local ip; };

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 18/02/2015 09:24, Michael Volz a écrit :

Hi Niki,

md127 apparently only uses 81.95GB per disk. Maybe one of the partitions has 
the wrong size. What's the output of lsblk?


[root@nestor:~] # lsblk
NAME  MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:00 232,9G  0 disk
├─sda1  8:10   3,9G  0 part
│ └─md126   9:126  0   3,9G  0 raid1 [SWAP]
├─sda2  8:20   200M  0 part
│ └─md125   9:125  0   200M  0 raid1 /boot
└─sda3  8:30  76,4G  0 part
  └─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /
sdb 8:16   0 232,9G  0 disk
├─sdb1  8:17   0   3,9G  0 part
│ └─md126   9:126  0   3,9G  0 raid1 [SWAP]
├─sdb2  8:18   0   200M  0 part
│ └─md125   9:125  0   200M  0 raid1 /boot
└─sdb3  8:19   0  76,4G  0 part
  └─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /
sdc 8:32   0 232,9G  0 disk
├─sdc1  8:33   0   3,9G  0 part
│ └─md126   9:126  0   3,9G  0 raid1 [SWAP]
├─sdc2  8:34   0   200M  0 part
│ └─md125   9:125  0   200M  0 raid1 /boot
└─sdc3  8:35   0  76,4G  0 part
  └─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /
sdd 8:48   0 232,9G  0 disk
├─sdd1  8:49   0   3,9G  0 part
│ └─md126   9:126  0   3,9G  0 raid1 [SWAP]
├─sdd2  8:50   0   200M  0 part
│ └─md125   9:125  0   200M  0 raid1 /boot
└─sdd3  8:51   0  76,4G  0 part
  └─md127   9:127  0   229G  0 raid5 /

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread g


On 02/18/2015 01:23 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 08:09, Niki Kovacs a écrit :

 Apparently no spare devices have been created. So why do I only
 have 226 GB of disk space under CentOS, when I had roughly 650 GB
 under Slackware?

 An idea just crossed my mind. Could it be that 'df' is reporting a
 wrong partition size on the RAID 5 array? And how can I check if
 this is the case?

i have not built any raid system in linux, but from reading, i saw
that there is a little difference from unix.

also, between linux flavors, there can be a lot of difference.

in a way, case of...

  who wrote the book and how whoever is reading it.

ie, Slackware and CentOS.

looking at question of 'reporting', 'df' has various ways of reporting
size and might/may/could be what is causing difference.

so, until an exact reason/cause is replied...

besides '-h', what other arguments for 'df' did you try?

  df --block-size=1000
  df --block-size=1024
  df --block-size=K
  df --block-size=M
  df --block-size=G
  df --si
  df -T

instead of reading

  man df

have a look at

  info coreutils 'df invocation'


you can also use 'lsblk', which i find it to be off a bit due to
how it rounds of sizes, except when using '-b'

'disk utility', 'system monitor', 'kde info center', 'gparted', are
other ways of viewing allocation.


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Re: [CentOS] Help with routing question.

2015-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote:

 We have a host that has multiple IPv4 addresses aliased to eth0.   The
 primary address is 216.185.71.x and the alias is 192.168.6.x.

 This host connects to devices on both netblocks without problems.
 Only default routing is used and it looks like this:

 #ip route
 192.168.6.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.6.x
 216.185.71.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 216.185.71.x
 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1002
 default via 192.168.6.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.6.x
 default via 216.185.71.1 dev eth0

 1. Why is ssh using the private IP in preference to the public IP when
 connecting to off-site addresses?

Because you have a default route for it.

 2. How does one configure the routing table on network startup to
 specifically detail the route particular addresses are supposed to
 take?


Not exactly sure how routing works with aliases on the same interface
but the first thing I would try is the same as you would use on
different interfaces.  That is, leave the 'GATEWAY=' on your
internet-facing etho, but remove the entry from the private eth0:192.
  Then add a route-eth0:192  file containing the network(s) and
gateway for the private side.   The source address it picks should be
the one appropriate to reach the next-hop router specified in your
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Re: [CentOS] Help with routing question.

2015-02-18 Thread Antonio S. Martins Jr.
Hi James,

   Simply remove the GATEWAY line from the eth0:192 interface config :D

   Then you'll had only one default gateway. And the source IP to all unknown 
address
will be the routeable one.

   Att.,

   Antonio.

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 CentOS-6.6
 
 We have a host that has multiple IPv4 addresses aliased to eth0.  
 The
 primary address is 216.185.71.x and the alias is 192.168.6.x.
 
 This host connects to devices on both netblocks without problems. 
 Only default routing is used and it looks like this:
 
 #ip route
 192.168.6.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.6.x
 216.185.71.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 216.185.71.x
 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1002
 default via 192.168.6.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.6.x
 default via 216.185.71.1 dev eth0
 
 
 When the system connects to internal systems via ssh it uses the src
 216.185.71.x for devices on that netblock and 192.168.6.x for devices
 on the other.
 
 The problem is that when we try to establish an ssh connection
 off-site to another netblock altogether the host uses 192.168.6.x as
 the source and the destination gets the public side IP address of our
 gateway router as the point of origin due to masquerading.
 
 I have solved this by explicitly binding ssh to the public ipv4 when
 connecting using the --bind=216.185.71.x parameter.  But I have two
 questions I would like to find answers for
 
 1. Why is ssh using the private IP in preference to the public IP
 when
 connecting to off-site addresses?
 
 2. How does one configure the routing table on network startup to
 specifically detail the route particular addresses are supposed to
 take?
 
 
 For diagnosis here are the ifcfg scripts used for both interfaces:
 
 DEVICE=eth0
 BOOTPROTO=static
 BROADCAST=216.185.71.255
 DNS1=216.185.71.33
 GATEWAY=216.185.71.1
 HWADDR=38:60:77:D5:AC:D8
 IPADDR=216.185.71.x
 IPV6INIT=yes
 IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NM_CONTROLLED=no
 ONBOOT=yes
 TYPE=Ethernet
 UUID=0202e615-ce93-4fe1-833a-c11259afb850
 
 
 DEVICE=eth0:192
 BOOTPROTO=static
 BROADCAST=192.168.6.255
 GATEWAY=192.168.6.1
 IPADDR=192.168.6.x
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NM_CONTROLLED=no
 ONPARENT=yes
 TYPE=Ethernet
 
 
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[CentOS] Help with routing question.

2015-02-18 Thread James B. Byrne
CentOS-6.6

We have a host that has multiple IPv4 addresses aliased to eth0.   The
primary address is 216.185.71.x and the alias is 192.168.6.x.

This host connects to devices on both netblocks without problems. 
Only default routing is used and it looks like this:

#ip route
192.168.6.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.6.x
216.185.71.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 216.185.71.x
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1002
default via 192.168.6.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.6.x
default via 216.185.71.1 dev eth0


When the system connects to internal systems via ssh it uses the src
216.185.71.x for devices on that netblock and 192.168.6.x for devices
on the other.

The problem is that when we try to establish an ssh connection
off-site to another netblock altogether the host uses 192.168.6.x as
the source and the destination gets the public side IP address of our
gateway router as the point of origin due to masquerading.

I have solved this by explicitly binding ssh to the public ipv4 when
connecting using the --bind=216.185.71.x parameter.  But I have two
questions I would like to find answers for

1. Why is ssh using the private IP in preference to the public IP when
connecting to off-site addresses?

2. How does one configure the routing table on network startup to
specifically detail the route particular addresses are supposed to
take?


For diagnosis here are the ifcfg scripts used for both interfaces:

DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=216.185.71.255
DNS1=216.185.71.33
GATEWAY=216.185.71.1
HWADDR=38:60:77:D5:AC:D8
IPADDR=216.185.71.x
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
UUID=0202e615-ce93-4fe1-833a-c11259afb850


DEVICE=eth0:192
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=192.168.6.255
GATEWAY=192.168.6.1
IPADDR=192.168.6.x
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONPARENT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet


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Re: [CentOS] debuginfo versioning tools?

2015-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jim Perrin jper...@centos.org wrote:


 On 02/17/2015 02:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Are there any tools to help assemble libraries and debuginfo to
 examine core dumps that happened on another host where the versions
 don't match?  Something like mock but build-version specific and with
 the debuginfo packages pulled in?



 I'm not sure of a one-step 'chroot-friendly' way to do this. You could
 probably script this up by abusing debuginfo-install's --installroot
 option after some minor chroot prep-work.

It doesn't really need to be in a chroot - but otherwise you need to
extract the lib/debuginfo rpm contents into non-standard locations and
tell gdb to look there.   Kind of tedious either way.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with routing question.

2015-02-18 Thread Steve Clark

Hi James,

Antonio is correct. The default address is used when the destination address
is not on a subnet that is on one of your local interfaces.

Any packet destined for an address on the 192.168.6.0/24 subnet will 
automatically be sent with a source
address of 192.168.6.1

Same with any packet destined for an address on the 216.185.71.0/24 subnet will 
be sent with a source
address of 216.185.71.1.

 The kernel uses the first address on an interface as the primary address. You 
can see this if you just
do ifconfig ifname, you will only see the first address you assign to the 
interface.

Hope this helps,
Steve

On 02/18/2015 12:51 PM, Antonio S. Martins Jr. wrote:

Hi James,

Simply remove the GATEWAY line from the eth0:192 interface config :D

Then you'll had only one default gateway. And the source IP to all unknown 
address
will be the routeable one.

Att.,

Antonio.

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De: James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca
Para: centos@centos.org
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 18 de Fevereiro de 2015 15:39:16 (GMT-0300) 
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Assunto: [CentOS] Help with routing question.

CentOS-6.6

We have a host that has multiple IPv4 addresses aliased to eth0.
The
primary address is 216.185.71.x and the alias is 192.168.6.x.

This host connects to devices on both netblocks without problems.
Only default routing is used and it looks like this:

#ip route
192.168.6.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.6.x
216.185.71.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 216.185.71.x
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1002
default via 192.168.6.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.6.x
default via 216.185.71.1 dev eth0


When the system connects to internal systems via ssh it uses the src
216.185.71.x for devices on that netblock and 192.168.6.x for devices
on the other.

The problem is that when we try to establish an ssh connection
off-site to another netblock altogether the host uses 192.168.6.x as
the source and the destination gets the public side IP address of our
gateway router as the point of origin due to masquerading.

I have solved this by explicitly binding ssh to the public ipv4 when
connecting using the --bind=216.185.71.x parameter.  But I have two
questions I would like to find answers for

1. Why is ssh using the private IP in preference to the public IP
when
connecting to off-site addresses?

2. How does one configure the routing table on network startup to
specifically detail the route particular addresses are supposed to
take?


For diagnosis here are the ifcfg scripts used for both interfaces:

DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=216.185.71.255
DNS1=216.185.71.33
GATEWAY=216.185.71.1
HWADDR=38:60:77:D5:AC:D8
IPADDR=216.185.71.x
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
UUID=0202e615-ce93-4fe1-833a-c11259afb850


DEVICE=eth0:192
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=192.168.6.255
GATEWAY=192.168.6.1
IPADDR=192.168.6.x
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONPARENT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet


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Re: [CentOS] Setting up new spacewalk server

2015-02-18 Thread Eckert, Doug
Trying to use minimal ISOs

The 64-bit CEL 7.0 and 6.6 look ok so far. but when I try to set up the CEL
6.6 i386, but I get the following


   - The initrd could not be found at the specified location:
   /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386/images/pxeboot/initrd.img


It does have the initrd.img file in .../isolinux, but for some reason, not
in .../images/pxeboot





On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:36 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 2/17/2015 12:31 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

 2015-02-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Eckert, Dougdoug.eck...@dowjones.com:

  We have a DHCP/PXE server in a build environment, which is separate from
 our Spacewalk v1.5 server. We direct builds to Satellite or Spacewalk
 based
 as needed. It contains initrd  vmlinuz files for each version/arch we
 currently deploy for both RHEL  CEL.
 
 I'd like to keep the storage footprint to a minimum, if possible.
 Keeping a
 big directory of ISOs to loop-mount for kickstart profile distributions
 seems excessive, especially when DVD#1 exceeds 4GB now. Is there any way
 around this requirement for kickstarting?
 
 

 How about using centos/rhel minimal iso for kickstarting ?


 indeed, thats what I do, and point at an nfs or http repository of the
 packages.   the kickstart file contains all the configuration info for a
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 18/02/2015 09:24, Michael Volz a écrit :

md127 apparently only uses 81.95GB per disk. Maybe one of the partitions has 
the wrong size. What's the output of lsblk?


I just spent a few hours experimenting with the CentOS 7 installer in a 
VirtualBox guest with four virtual hard disks. I can now confirm this is 
a very stupid bug in the (very stupid) installer. Or at least one more 
random weirdness. Here goes.


The new installer is organized around mount points, which have to be 
defined first. OK, so I first define my mountpoint /boot, set it to 200 
MB (which is enough), define it to be RAID level 1 across four disks 
with an ext2 filesystem. So far so good.


Next step is similar, swap mountpoint is 2 GB, also RAID level 1 across 
four disks.


Finally, the / (root partition) mountpoint is supposed to take up the 
full amount of remaining disk space. In my virtual guest, I defined 4 X 
40 GB to fiddle with. The installer shows me something like 38.6 GB, 
which looks like the remaining space on each disk's partition.


Now I define RAID level 5 across four disks...

... and here it comes.

Once RAID level 5 is defined, I have to REDEFINE the maximum disk space 
by putting in a random large number, for example 4 X 40 GB = 160 GB. 
Because what is meant here is THE TOTAL RESULTING AMOUNT OF DISK SPACE 
IN THE RAID 5 ARRAY, AND NOT THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF A DISK PARTITION. So 
once I fill that field with 160 GB, the installer automagically sets 
it to 106.8 GB, which is in effect the maximum available disk space 
using RAID 5.


Usability anyone?

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Re: [CentOS] Setting up new spacewalk server

2015-02-18 Thread Eckert, Doug
ISO pulled from

http://mirror.rackspace.com/CentOS/6.6/isos/i386/CentOS-6.6-i386-minimal.iso

# df -h /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/var/ISO/CentOS-6.6-i386-minimal.iso
  339M  339M 0 100% /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386
# find /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386 -name initr\*
/var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386/isolinux/initrd.img
#

In fact, the /images is populated with

images/install.img
images/TRANS.TBL
images/updates.img

Nothing else. I can pull apart the ISO, create images/pxeboot, plop the
vmlinuz  initrd.img file into place and create a new ISO, but it seems
like it should already be there, no? The 64-bit minimal ISOs for CEL 67
from the same source have them in the right place...

I'd like to just ditch all the i386 stuff, but we do have some legacy
systems that were built as such.





On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Eckert, Doug doug.eck...@dowjones.com
wrote:

 Trying to use minimal ISOs

 The 64-bit CEL 7.0 and 6.6 look ok so far. but when I try to set up the
 CEL 6.6 i386, but I get the following


- The initrd could not be found at the specified location:
/var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386/images/pxeboot/initrd.img


 It does have the initrd.img file in .../isolinux, but for some reason, not
 in .../images/pxeboot





 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:36 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com
 wrote:

 On 2/17/2015 12:31 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

 2015-02-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Eckert, Dougdoug.eck...@dowjones.com:

  We have a DHCP/PXE server in a build environment, which is separate
 from
 our Spacewalk v1.5 server. We direct builds to Satellite or Spacewalk
 based
 as needed. It contains initrd  vmlinuz files for each version/arch we
 currently deploy for both RHEL  CEL.
 
 I'd like to keep the storage footprint to a minimum, if possible.
 Keeping a
 big directory of ISOs to loop-mount for kickstart profile distributions
 seems excessive, especially when DVD#1 exceeds 4GB now. Is there any
 way
 around this requirement for kickstarting?
 
 

 How about using centos/rhel minimal iso for kickstarting ?


 indeed, thats what I do, and point at an nfs or http repository of the
 packages.   the kickstart file contains all the configuration info for a
 particular setup.



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Re: [CentOS] Setting up new spacewalk server

2015-02-18 Thread Eckert, Doug
Same is true for i386 6.5 and 6.4 minimal. I gave up after seeing the same
thing on 3 ISOs, but it probably follows all the way down to 6.0.



On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Eckert, Doug doug.eck...@dowjones.com
wrote:

 ISO pulled from


 http://mirror.rackspace.com/CentOS/6.6/isos/i386/CentOS-6.6-i386-minimal.iso

 # df -h /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /var/ISO/CentOS-6.6-i386-minimal.iso
   339M  339M 0 100% /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386
 # find /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386 -name initr\*
 /var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386/isolinux/initrd.img
 #

 In fact, the /images is populated with

 images/install.img
 images/TRANS.TBL
 images/updates.img

 Nothing else. I can pull apart the ISO, create images/pxeboot, plop the
 vmlinuz  initrd.img file into place and create a new ISO, but it seems
 like it should already be there, no? The 64-bit minimal ISOs for CEL 67
 from the same source have them in the right place...

 I'd like to just ditch all the i386 stuff, but we do have some legacy
 systems that were built as such.





 On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Eckert, Doug doug.eck...@dowjones.com
 wrote:

 Trying to use minimal ISOs

 The 64-bit CEL 7.0 and 6.6 look ok so far. but when I try to set up the
 CEL 6.6 i386, but I get the following


- The initrd could not be found at the specified location:
/var/distros/CentOS-6.6-i386/images/pxeboot/initrd.img


 It does have the initrd.img file in .../isolinux, but for some reason,
 not in .../images/pxeboot





 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:36 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com
 wrote:

 On 2/17/2015 12:31 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

 2015-02-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Eckert, Dougdoug.eck...@dowjones.com:

  We have a DHCP/PXE server in a build environment, which is separate
 from
 our Spacewalk v1.5 server. We direct builds to Satellite or Spacewalk
 based
 as needed. It contains initrd  vmlinuz files for each version/arch we
 currently deploy for both RHEL  CEL.
 
 I'd like to keep the storage footprint to a minimum, if possible.
 Keeping a
 big directory of ISOs to loop-mount for kickstart profile
 distributions
 seems excessive, especially when DVD#1 exceeds 4GB now. Is there any
 way
 around this requirement for kickstarting?
 
 

 How about using centos/rhel minimal iso for kickstarting ?


 indeed, thats what I do, and point at an nfs or http repository of the
 packages.   the kickstart file contains all the configuration info for a
 particular setup.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Niki Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 09:24, Michael Volz a écrit :

 md127 apparently only uses 81.95GB per disk. Maybe one of the partitions
 has the wrong size. What's the output of lsblk?


 I just spent a few hours experimenting with the CentOS 7 installer in a
 VirtualBox guest with four virtual hard disks. I can now confirm this is a
 very stupid bug in the (very stupid) installer. Or at least one more random
 weirdness. Here goes.

 The new installer is organized around mount points, which have to be defined
 first. OK, so I first define my mountpoint /boot, set it to 200 MB (which is
 enough), define it to be RAID level 1 across four disks with an ext2
 filesystem. So far so good.

 Next step is similar, swap mountpoint is 2 GB, also RAID level 1 across four
 disks.

 Finally, the / (root partition) mountpoint is supposed to take up the full
 amount of remaining disk space. In my virtual guest, I defined 4 X 40 GB to
 fiddle with. The installer shows me something like 38.6 GB, which looks like
 the remaining space on each disk's partition.

 Now I define RAID level 5 across four disks...

 ... and here it comes.

 Once RAID level 5 is defined, I have to REDEFINE the maximum disk space by
 putting in a random large number, for example 4 X 40 GB = 160 GB. Because
 what is meant here is THE TOTAL RESULTING AMOUNT OF DISK SPACE IN THE RAID 5
 ARRAY, AND NOT THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF A DISK PARTITION. So once I fill that
 field with 160 GB, the installer automagically sets it to 106.8 GB, which
 is in effect the maximum available disk space using RAID 5.

 Usability anyone?

installer is organized around mount points is correct, and what gets
mounted on mount points? Volumes, not partitions. So it's consistent
with the UI that the size is a volume size, not a partition size.

The problem here, is that users are used to being involved in details
like making specific partitions in a specific order with specific
sizes. The new UI de-emphasizes the need to be involved in that level
of detail. It ends up making things more consistent regardless of
which device type you use: LVM, LVM thinp, standard, or Btrfs. If
you emphasize partitions, then you have to emphasize the user needing
to know esoteric things.

What is NOT obvious: for single device installs, if you omit the size
in the create mount point dialog, the size of the resulting volume
will consume all remaining space. But since there's no way to preset
raid5 at the time a mount point is created (raid5 is set after the
fact), there isn't a clear way to say use all remaining space for
this. There's just a size field for the volume, and a space available
value in the lower left hand corner.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 18/02/2015 23:12, Chris Murphy a écrit :

installer is organized around mount points is correct, and what gets
mounted on mount points? Volumes, not partitions.


Says who?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 19/02/2015 05:43, Chris Murphy a écrit :

My personal view on installers is extremely biased toward the user
staying out of trouble, they shouldn't have to read documentation for
a GUI installer.


A *user* never has to even see - or use - an installer. A USER has to 
USE a computer,  by which I mean the applications he or she needs to get 
some work done.


The person who gets to be confronted by an OS installer is not a user, 
it's an ADMIN, which is an entirely different thing. An ADMIN should 
RTFM (a lot) and know his way about what you call esoteric things 
earlier in this thread (disks, partitions, volumes).


My company (http://www.microlinux.fr) installs complete Linux-based 
networks for schools, town halls, public libraries etc. here in South 
France. For now, most of my server and desktop solutions are based on a 
highly modified version of Slackware Linux, with some CentOS and some 
RHEL here and there. I'm currently planning on migrating everything to 
CentOS in the long run.


One of the founding principles of my company is the constant SEPARATION 
BETWEEN USING A COMPUTER AND ADMINISTRATING IT. A user never ever has to 
worry about things that pertain to system administration, and it would 
be very wrong if he or she ever has to deal with such a thing as an 
installer. For what it's worth, some of my users don't even know that 
this thing that they're using every day is called Linux under the hood. 
To them, it's just the machine that's running things like their library 
management software, or whatever.


So, as an admin, what I want from an installer is FLEXIBILITY... and not 
an assistant that reminds me of Microsoft Office's infamous Clippy and 
expects me to jump through burning loops to configure the system as I 
want it.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/18/2015 11:06 PM, John R Pierce wrote:


 but, is that lvm integrated raid stuff available in RHEL/CentOS 6 
or 7 yet ? 


/me scribbles postit note to self:   google BEFORE hitting send

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/raid_volumes.html

ahhh, interesting.  its in 6.3+



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[CentOS] CentOS Participation in GSOC-2015

2015-02-18 Thread Saket Sinha
Hi Johnny,

  This is to enquire as to whether CentOS will be participating in GSOC
this year?

The Mentoring Organization applications are now being accepted for Google
Summer of Code 2015.
http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2015/02/mentoring-organization-applications-now.html



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Niki Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote:
 Well, maybe it's just me. I've started Linux on Slackware 7.1 and used
 pretty much every major and minor distribution under the sun. I know my way
 around Slackware, Debian, CentOS, FreeBSD, Gentoo, Arch and many more, and
 my favourite installer is - and will always be - Slackware's bone-headed
 NCurses installer that lets the admin do pretty much what he wants - and
 needs - to do.

I'm definitely not suggesting it's just you. I'm coming up with a
plausible explanation for the confusion, and that's a misalignment
between your expectations and the installer's presentation. I can tell
you, having using this installer since Fedora 18, it has changed
immensely from the initial versions.

My personal view on installers is extremely biased toward the user
staying out of trouble, they shouldn't have to read documentation for
a GUI installer. The entire point of a GUI installer is to protect the
user from bad choices, non-standard or unsupportable choices, or
having to read a volume of documentation, or become an expert for
something that quite frankly happens rarely: OS installation.

And my very strong bias is affected by both the OS X and Windows
installers, which are completely, utterly, brain dead. And I mean that
in a good way. It's impossible for the user to get confused, there are
almost no choices. It's next to impossible for there to be bugs, there
are almost no choices. Every outcome of the installation is
supportable, because the user wasn't allowed to create completely
nutty layouts that make no sense.

Now, for various reasons Anaconda (the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS installer)
is exceptionally more capable than almost any other GUI installer out
there. And that makes it complex, prone to bugs, and prone to
confusing users and subject to criticism. That's just the inevitable
result of trying to do so many things.



 I love CentOS, been using it since 4.x. But frankly, CentOS 7's installer is
 an abomination.

Having done many hundreds, possibly over a thousand installations with
it, I'm well aware of how confusing it can be. So the criticism is
almost certainly reasonable, no matter what. I'm just saying that once
you understand the point of view of the installer (which arguably you
should not have to do), things become much easier. That doesn't mean
easy. Just easier.


 All's well that ends well. It only took me a day and a half to figure out
 how to configure RAID 5 using the graphical assistant. Something I could
 have done in less than three minutes using fdisk and mdadm --create.

Right, but inevitably that failure is the result of misalignment of
expectations between you and the installer. That's an explanation, not
an assignment of blame. The reason why working directly with
partitions is easy for you, and what you expect, is simply because
that's how you've always done it, since  that's how all other
installers behave. Anaconda is really the first installer that
deemphasizes that. And I think that's a bold move, and for a GUI
installer that's necessarily taking on a lot of complexity I think
it's probably a good idea overall. But it does have a lot of bugs
still... it's definitely doing things that I don't like.

But any experienced sysadmin knows how users say it should work like
X and how often they're wrong. They're just used to things that work
like X and that's why they want this new problem to work that same
way. So as a sysadmin or network engineer you ask questions to find
out how to get the user from A to B, and the details of how it should
work are your domain, your specialty, and ultimately they don't
really care how it happens, they just want to get to B. And once
that's well understood, you can get on with things.

And one problem is the installer can't really have that kind of
diplomatic conversation about what its worldview is, so that the user
expectations re-align with the end goal in mind, not how to get there.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Niki Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 23:12, Chris Murphy a écrit :

 installer is organized around mount points is correct, and what gets
 mounted on mount points? Volumes, not partitions.


 Says who?

Because it's ambiguous. A partition might entirely contain a volume (a
filesystem), but in your case none of your partitions contain a
volume. They're members of md raid first, only once that's assembled
is there a logical block device, which happens to contain the volume,
and it is the volume you're mounting. All you have to do is check
fstab, partitions aren't assigned mount points, volumes are.


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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox Replacement

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Hepple
Mark LaPierre marklapier@... writes:

 
 On 02/15/15 22:48, Mark LaPierre wrote:
  Hey Y'all,
  
  I though I would resurrect a long dead mail chain.
  
  I'm looking for a good replacement for Rhythmbox.  I need a pod catcher
  to catch podcasts and download them to my HD where I can then move them
  onto my mp3 player that I take to work every day.
  

* cricket-cricket *

* cricket-cricket *

OK - so I use podget. It's a bash script and it does exactly what I want.

There's no package as such, but google knows where it lives (on sourceforge).

Cheers


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:20 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 23:12,

 close, but then, for mysterious reasons, Red Hat decided to cripple it
 into oblivion. Go figure.

 One word: desktop. That's what they want to conquer next.

OK well there's a really long road to get to that pie in the sky. I
don't see it happening because it seems there's no mandate to
basically tell people what they can't have, instead it's well, we'll
have a little of everything.

Desktop OS that are the conquerers now? Their installers don't offer
100's of layout choices. They offer 1-2, and they always work rock
solid, no crashing, no user confusion, essentially zero bugs. The code
is brain dead simple, and that results in stability.

*shrug*

Long road. Long long long. Tunnel. No light. The usability aspects are
simply not taken seriously by the OS's as a whole. It's only taken
seriously by DE's and they get loads of crap for every change they
want to make. Until there's a willingness to look at 16 packages as a
whole rather than 1 package at a time, desktop linux has no chance.
The very basic aspects of how to partition, assemble, and boot and
linux distro aren't even agreed upon. Fedora n+1 has problems
installing after Fedora n. And it's practically a sport for each
distro to step on an existing distros installer. This is
technologically solved, just no one seems to care to actually
implement something more polite.

OS X? It partitions itself, formats a volume, sets the type code,
writes some code into NVRAM, in order to make the reboot automatically
boot the Windows installer from a USB stick. It goes out of it's way
to invite the foreign OS.

We can't even do that with the same distro, different version. It
should be embarrassing but no one really cares enough to change it.
It's thankless work in the realm of polish. But a huge amount of
success for a desktop OS comes from polish.


 We also pretty much don't use any drives under 1TB. The upshot is we had
 custom scripts for  500GB, which made 4 partitions - /boot (1G, to fit
 with the preupgrade), swap (2G), / (497G - and we're considering
 downsizing that to 250G, or maybe 150G) and the rest in another partition
 for users' data and programs. The installer absolutely does *not* want to
 do what we want. We want swap - 2G - as the *second* partition. But if we
 use the installer, as soon as we create the third partition, of 497GB, for
 /, it immediately reorders them, so that / is second.

I'm open to having my mind changed on this, but I'm not actually
understanding why it needs to be in the 2nd slot, other than you want
it there, which actually isn't a good enough reason. If there's a good
reason for it to be in X slot always, for everyone, including
anticipating future use, then that's a feature request and it ought to
get fixed. But if it's a specific use case, well yeah you get to
pre-partition and then install.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/18/2015 8:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Niki Kovacsi...@microlinux.fr  wrote:

Le 18/02/2015 23:12, Chris Murphy a écrit :


installer is organized around mount points is correct, and what gets
mounted on mount points? Volumes, not partitions.



Says who?

Because it's ambiguous. A partition might entirely contain a volume (a
filesystem), but in your case none of your partitions contain a
volume. They're members of md raid first, only once that's assembled
is there a logical block device, which happens to contain the volume,
and it is the volume you're mounting. All you have to do is check
fstab, partitions aren't assigned mount points, volumes are.


and I make my mdraid's PV's for lvm, and create LV's that are my file 
systems which I mount.  so thats one MORE level of indirection.


disks - partition(s) - mdraid devices - PVs - VG - LV - file 
system.   phew.






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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:25 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 disks - partition(s) - mdraid devices - PVs - VG - LV - file system.
 phew.

You might be a candidate for LVM integrated raid. It uses the md
kernel code on the backend, but it's all LVM tools to create, manage
and monitor. The raid level is defined per LV, instead of all LV's in
a VG inheriting the underlying raid. It supports all levels of raid
including 5/6.

It doesn't quite have all the features of mdadm. But the flexibility
it offers for use cases where LV's are often being created and
destroyed and different redundancy levels/types are desired, it's
neat.

And eventually, one of these years, Btrfs. That is so much simpler to
create and manage.

diskno partitionBtrfsraidsubvolumes instead of partitions

It doesn't have all the features of mdadm or lvm, especially when it
comes to VM images. But for general purpose data, it's nice. It'll use
different sized drives in a raid56, no fuss, no having to tell it how
to do that. Online addition of yet another (unlike sized) drive and it
just starts using it with a single 'btrfs device add' command. No
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/18/2015 9:39 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

You might be a candidate for LVM integrated raid. It uses the md
kernel code on the backend, but it's all LVM tools to create, manage
and monitor. The raid level is defined per LV, instead of all LV's in
a VG inheriting the underlying raid. It supports all levels of raid
including 5/6. ... ...
...
... ... btrfs ...


actually, I prefer zfs.   I was just saying how I do it on CentOS, where 
zfs is not really an option.


# zpool create zbig mirror hd10 hd11 mirror hd12 hd13 mirror hd14 hd15 
mirror hd16 hd17 mirror hd18 hd19 spare hd20 hd21

# zfs create -o mountpoint=/mystuff zbig/mystuff

done.

 but, is that lvm integrated raid stuff available in RHEL/CentOS 6 
or 7 yet ?



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Re: [CentOS] How to write RPM spec

2015-02-18 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 09:08:52AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
 If you have set up an RPM build server then you should have installed
 the rpmbuild and rpmdevtools packages.  If you have installed the
 latter then you can use vi (vim/gvim) to automatically create an empty
 spec template file simply by opening any new file name ending in
 '.spec'.  It will look like this:

Rather than relying on vim to do this, you can also use
'rpmdev-newspec' to create a new spec file, which has options to
automatically set up packages for Perl, Python, PHP (etc.) modules,
system libraries or a really minimal simple package.  Read the man
page for 'rpmdev-newspec'.

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Re: [CentOS] debuginfo versioning tools?

2015-02-18 Thread James B. Byrne

On Tue, February 17, 2015 15:20, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Are there any tools to help assemble libraries and debuginfo to
 examine core dumps that happened on another host where the versions
 don't match?  Something like mock but build-version specific and with
 the debuginfo packages pulled in?


I am not sure that I understand your question so if this answer is
totally irrelevant then please forgive me.

But, in case this might help, you can configure mock to use locally
provided repos and different architectures via the --configdir
parameter. You provide an architecture specific config file like
epel-6-x86_64.cfg in the specified directory and alter it to require
packages to suit a specific build requirement.

One of mine looks like this:

config_opts['root'] = 'epel-6-x86_64'
config_opts['target_arch'] = 'x86_64'
config_opts['legal_host_arches'] = ('x86_64',)
config_opts['chroot_setup_cmd'] = 'groupinstall buildsys-build'
config_opts['dist'] = 'el6'  # only useful for --resultdir variable subst

config_opts['yum.conf'] = 
[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
debuglevel=1
reposdir=/dev/null
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
retries=20
obsoletes=1
gpgcheck=0
assumeyes=1
syslog_ident=mock
syslog_device=

# repos
[base]
name=BaseOS
enabled=1
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6arch=x86_64repo=os
failovermethod=priority
exclude=http*

[updates]
name=updates
enabled=1
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6arch=x86_64repo=updates
failovermethod=priority
exclude=http*

[epel]
name=epel
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-6arch=x86_64
failovermethod=priority
exclude=http*

[testing]
name=epel-testing
enabled=0
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=testing-epel6arch=x86_64
failovermethod=priority

[local]
name=local
baseurl=file:///home/byrnejb/mock/repos/x86_64/
cost=0
enabled=1

[koji]
name=koji
baseurl=http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-6E-epel-build/latest/x86_64/
cost=2000
enabled=0

[epel-debug]
name=epel-debug
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-debug-6arch=x86_64
failovermethod=priority
enabled=0



and one calls it like this:

mock --rebuild --root=epel-6-x86_64 --configdir=/home/byrnejb/mock   
/home/byrnejb/rpmbuild/SRPMS/httpd-2.4.9-1.el6.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread Tris Hoar

On 18/02/2015 07:17, aditya hilman wrote:

Hi folks,

I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view. Also
already configured the master - slave dns.
But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which is
not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?

Thanks.



Hi Adit,

If you are not already using TSIG's in your views I suggest you look at 
this guide

http://blog.hudecof.net/posts/2014/02/07/bind9-with-views-and-tsig-axfr.html
It shows how to use TSIG's to identify the views so you can slave both 
of them to the secondary.


also you want to add to the options section on the master
also-notify { slaves-IP; };
This make it tell the slave to update its zone.

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Re: [CentOS] How to write RPM spec

2015-02-18 Thread James B. Byrne

 On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:36:48 +1300
 Jegadeesh Kumar wrote:

 I setup the RPM build server and read some doc to write the spec
 files. but i did get it clearly. So can you guys please help me
 to write a new RPM spec.

If you have set up an RPM build server then you should have installed
the rpmbuild and rpmdevtools packages.  If you have installed the
latter then you can use vi (vim/gvim) to automatically create an empty
spec template file simply by opening any new file name ending in
'.spec'.  It will look like this:

Name:
Version:
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:

Group:
License:
URL:
Source0:
BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildRequires:
Requires:

%description


%prep
%setup -q


%build
%configure
make %{?_smp_mflags}


%install
rm -rf %{buildroot}
make install DESTDIR=%{buildroot}


%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}


%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc



%changelog
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- Rebuild for CentOS-6.4
- This description is an example and is not automatically
- generated for you.


Note that the formats for the date and identity in changelog entries
are very specific and include the leading '*'.  You cannot use any
other format (to my knowledge) than that given above as an example.
Each descriptive line thereafter must be prefaced by'- '.


See:
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Re: [CentOS] debuginfo versioning tools?

2015-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:29 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote:

 On Tue, February 17, 2015 15:20, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Are there any tools to help assemble libraries and debuginfo to
 examine core dumps that happened on another host where the versions
 don't match?  Something like mock but build-version specific and with
 the debuginfo packages pulled in?


 I am not sure that I understand your question so if this answer is
 totally irrelevant then please forgive me.

I don't think I could actually use mock for this.  It might come close
if I rebuilt all of the libraries and debuginfo packages at the
versions that existed on the host that produced the core dump and ran
gdb in the chroot environment.   But, I don't believe such a rebuild
would be an exact binary match for the builds in the CentOS build
environment and getting all the src rpms at the right versions would
be just as hard as assembling all of the binary rpms and debuginfo
from the vault versions.   I was just hoping that there was some
similar high-level framework to do the tedious work of assembling
everything you need in the right places.

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Re: [CentOS] debuginfo versioning tools?

2015-02-18 Thread Jim Perrin


On 02/17/2015 02:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Are there any tools to help assemble libraries and debuginfo to
 examine core dumps that happened on another host where the versions
 don't match?  Something like mock but build-version specific and with
 the debuginfo packages pulled in?
 


I'm not sure of a one-step 'chroot-friendly' way to do this. You could
probably script this up by abusing debuginfo-install's --installroot
option after some minor chroot prep-work.



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Re: [CentOS] Master - Slave Split DNS

2015-02-18 Thread aditya hilman
On Feb 18, 2015 7:43 PM, Tris Hoar trish...@bgfl.org wrote:

 On 18/02/2015 07:17, aditya hilman wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I've already configured split DNS for internal-view and external-view.
Also
 already configured the master - slave dns.
 But i've problem with external-view zone transfer.
 Based on the logs, the master notify to slave using the public ip, which
is
 not accessible by master to transfering the zone over public ip.
 Is it possible to transfer zone over local ip for external-view ?

 Thanks.


 Hi Adit,

 If you are not already using TSIG's in your views I suggest you look at
this guide

http://blog.hudecof.net/posts/2014/02/07/bind9-with-views-and-tsig-axfr.html
 It shows how to use TSIG's to identify the views so you can slave both of
them to the secondary.

 also you want to add to the options section on the master
 also-notify { slaves-IP; };
 This make it tell the slave to update its zone.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 18/02/2015 23:12, Chris Murphy a écrit :

What is NOT obvious: for single device installs, if you omit the size
in the create mount point dialog, the size of the resulting volume
will consume all remaining space. But since there's no way to preset
raid5 at the time a mount point is created (raid5 is set after the
fact), there isn't a clear way to say use all remaining space for
this. There's just a size field for the volume, and a space available
value in the lower left hand corner.


Well, maybe it's just me. I've started Linux on Slackware 7.1 and used 
pretty much every major and minor distribution under the sun. I know my 
way around Slackware, Debian, CentOS, FreeBSD, Gentoo, Arch and many 
more, and my favourite installer is - and will always be - Slackware's 
bone-headed NCurses installer that lets the admin do pretty much what he 
wants - and needs - to do. CentOS 5.x's text mode installer got pretty 
close, but then, for mysterious reasons, Red Hat decided to cripple it 
into oblivion. Go figure.


I love CentOS, been using it since 4.x. But frankly, CentOS 7's 
installer is an abomination.


All's well that ends well. It only took me a day and a half to figure 
out how to configure RAID 5 using the graphical assistant. Something I 
could have done in less than three minutes using fdisk and mdadm --create.


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[CentOS] Skip creating anaconda-ks.cfg in EL7?

2015-02-18 Thread Nux!
Hello,

In EL6 I could well remove /root/anaconda-ks.cfg in %post, but not any more it 
seems and I like my installs clean.
Anyone has any idea how to skip creating this file or deleting during install? 
I don't want to resort to running scripts upon first boot.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7: software RAID 5 array with 4 disks and no spares?

2015-02-18 Thread m . roth
Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Le 18/02/2015 23:12, Chris Murphy a écrit :
 What is NOT obvious: for single device installs, if you omit the size
 in the create mount point dialog, the size of the resulting volume
 will consume all remaining space. But since there's no way to preset
 raid5 at the time a mount point is created (raid5 is set after the
 fact), there isn't a clear way to say use all remaining space for
 this. There's just a size field for the volume, and a space available
 value in the lower left hand corner.
snip
 close, but then, for mysterious reasons, Red Hat decided to cripple it
 into oblivion. Go figure.

One word: desktop. That's what they want to conquer next.

 I love CentOS, been using it since 4.x. But frankly, CentOS 7's
 installer is an abomination.

 All's well that ends well. It only took me a day and a half to figure
 out how to configure RAID 5 using the graphical assistant. Something I
 could have done in less than three minutes using fdisk and mdadm --create.

We don't want to use lvm - my manager doesn't like it, and given how much
we hit our machines, we almost don't use vm's, either - we need all CPU
cycles for some things (like heavy scientific computing).

We also pretty much don't use any drives under 1TB. The upshot is we had
custom scripts for  500GB, which made 4 partitions - /boot (1G, to fit
with the preupgrade), swap (2G), / (497G - and we're considering
downsizing that to 250G, or maybe 150G) and the rest in another partition
for users' data and programs. The installer absolutely does *not* want to
do what we want. We want swap - 2G - as the *second* partition. But if we
use the installer, as soon as we create the third partition, of 497GB, for
/, it immediately reorders them, so that / is second.

Duh

The result is that we get to the screen to choose the drive, and say
custom partition... then alt-F2, and use parted to make the
partitions, then go back to the GUI and just assign the mount points and
filesystem types.

And why would you *want* / to have everything? I want to be able to
install a newer o/s, or whatever, and not have to worry about all the
data, etc - I want that in a separate partition (no, don't format that,
thank you).

   mark

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[CentOS] sw raid issue with C5.10-xen

2015-02-18 Thread Dave Stevens
My raid array won't boot, gives a kernel panic - attempt to kill init  
message and goes into endless reboots.


MB is a supermicro 2P with opteron 2376 4-core cpus, centos sw raid,  
installed C5.3, updated as possible, currently c5.10. 5 seagate 750GB  
drives as raid-10 and hot spare. we set this up about 5 years ago and  
IIRC we set aside the first 10GB on drive 0 as a boot partition.


Grub runs and the system tries to boot 2.6.18-308.20.1.el5xen, sees a  
dirty raid array and


md: md0: raid array is not clean - starting background reconstruction

which looks hopeful but then

md10: not enough operational mirrors for raid 10

and then the panic and reboot.

ideas? stuff to read? diagnostics?

TIA,

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox Replacement

2015-02-18 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/15/15 22:48, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 I though I would resurrect a long dead mail chain.
 
 I'm looking for a good replacement for Rhythmbox.  I need a pod catcher
 to catch podcasts and download them to my HD where I can then move them
 onto my mp3 player that I take to work every day.
 
 I don't need a new mp3 player so don't suggest VLC.  It is not able to
 download podcasts.
 
 I'm in the process of provisioning my new CentOS 6.6 x86_64 machine.  I
 have gpodder 2.19 installed on my CentOS 6.6 32 bit machine but have
 managed only to fail miserably at getting gpodder installed on my 64 bit
 machine.
 
 I see that I started this mail chain back in 2012.  There was no
 solution then.  Does the horizon look any different now?
 

I gather from the sound of crickets chirping that there is still no
viable solution for a CentOS 6 compatible pod cast collector that is
even close to being up to speed.

I've got gpodded 2.19 on my 32 bit machine.  I eventually got gpodder
2.15 installed on my 64 bit machine after several hours of arm twisting.
 Both are hopelessly out of date, but they work for my purposes.

Does anyone know if CentOS 7 has an alternative to Rhythmbox in the
repos?  Does the version of Rhythmbox that comes with CentOS 7 allow one
to easily add and/or remove feeds without having to manually edit an
obscure configuration file?  The one that's packaged with CentOS 6 does not.

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