Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
2009/3/25 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: on 3-25-2009 4:21 PM Frank Cox spake the following: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:15:22 -0500 Les Mikesell wrote: Can't you find a place that has both radio reception and internet service to park something like shoutcast? The immediate objective is to get the signal to somewhere that has (reliable) Internet access. The ultimate objective is to stream it online, but we have to get the signal out to where we can do that first. And the closest place that has good service is out-of-range of the signal during the day. (It sounds fine after dark and when the weather is just so but that's not much help with a 24-hour stream.) If the radi station has phone lines, they should be able to get something like a T1 or fractional part. Much more reliable and more bandwidth. Or look into a microwave or satellite link. I don't think you will be able to compress a radio signal enough to fit over a dial line without a lot of loss. You would need several lines multiplexed together for a decent sounding broadcast. There are many point to point links that will cover 40 miles (65 km). I don't know how far you have to go. The key problem is the lack of Internet access at the radio station. If you can get that, then you can use http://www.streamaudio.com/site/services.aspx (we listen to stations in San Antonio, TX and Wasilla, AK) or another streaming service. Excellent audio quality on our end! Here's what they show for the connectivity requirement: A Dedicated Internet Connection: Whether you use Cable, DSL, ADSL, ISDN, T-1 or frame relay, you should also have a dedicated internet connection and public routable IP to achieve the basic requirements for streaming your radio station on the World Wide Web. We will be pulling a primary and secondary stream so you will need a minimum of double the dedicated available bandwidth for the quality of stream you have selected. (Example: for a 32k stream, you will need at least 64k of bandwidth) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mmonit - Permission denied errot
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote: I just downloaded the mmonit from mmonit.com site on my CentOS box untarred-unizipped it. As per the documentation, I dutifully typed ./bin/mmonit and it is refusing to run. I am running this as root and SELinux is disabled. There is something you should have installed, first, that was recommended to me, by someone on the list, a month or so ago. I think the name is checkinstall and it comes from RPMForge. It monitors what you install, so you can uninstall it. If checkinstall is not the name of the package, I hope someone on the list will provide the correct name for you. You can install it with Yum, if you have the RPMForge Repository configured. The other problem(s) you are having, someone else will hopefully help you with. snip ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] update yum
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:09 AM, madunix madu...@gmail.com wrote: Am trying to update my wine i get the following .. [] download]# yum update wine* Loading priorities plugin Loading fastestmirror plugin Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * epel: ftp.nluug.nl * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net * base: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de * updates: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de * addons: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de * extras: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections As someone else pointed out, you really need to get Priority working, before you trash that box. When I installed EPEL, a month or so ago, I gave it a very low priority, the lowest priority of any of the Repositories I use. The number of packages being excluded, on my CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) Desktop increased from approximately 350 to 1560, when EPEL was added. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: The $ the project receives goes for hardware and network connectivity. That is not true. Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we use to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does not subsidise or pay for any of it. This also includes our network bills, phone bills for support calls and conf calls that we are sometimes part of and any other overhead. What you explained certainly increases (if that's possible), the respect and appreciation I have for the CentOS developers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
2009/3/23 mbneto mbn...@gmail.com: There were some unusual situations with core developers this time around. This is something that we should address don't you think? If someone has a medical problem and someone else is getting married, how will you address that? Everyone has a personal life and that should be a higher priority than this or any other project they spend time on. Some additional resources could help but since CentOS developers are unpaid, raising money for human resources may not be the correct approach. Beefing up the buildsystem has been noted as something desirable. I think that this is somewhat contradictory. If the developers are unpaid we should be considering at least some help (paid one) so we can expect a more regular approach not a best effort one. Possibly you should consider buying RHEL, if you need the updated OS faster. The CentOS Developers do everything possible to make this an excellent product and one that has outstanding support. And who is going to develop such nice automation? There has been regular news: Well, there is no need to automation. This paid help would send one email per day with the summary. The $ the project receives goes for hardware and network connectivity. Nobody is paid. The CentOS developers devote their time and hard work because they want this project to be successful. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/21 John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com: Lanny Marcus wrote: HEAD / HEAD/1.1 Host: www.centos.org HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request its ... HEAD / HTML/1.1 ... not HEAD/1.1 I typed it wrong. Here's the example John Pierce gave me: HEAD / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.centos.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backporting and Apache 2.0.52 is 4 1/2 years old
On 3/22/09, Rob Townley rob.town...@gmail.com wrote: http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_20.html states that Apache 2.0.52 is 4 years old and the latest version is 2.0.68. i am no longer a httpd expert, but at least one of the security fixes involves XSS attacks via malformed ftp commands. I also realize that redhat / centos may patch things separately from Apache and that the sysadmin has a great deal to do with how secure things are, but almost 5 years? This is an Enterprise Distro and very rarely has the latest and greatest. It is supported for a long time and security updates are backported. The life is 7 years. Much longer than the life of a Distro with the latest and greatest. Does the sysadmin for www.centos.org get paid? The CentOS team work for free on this project and they do an outstanding job. They also have full times jobs, so they are very busy. If you want the latest and greatest, you can install it yourself, but if it breaks, it's your problem. Decide which you want; (a) Long life, stability and security or (b) latest and greatest stuff. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:04 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 23:57 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Question for you Lanny. Do you have any ones computer you can use beside yours in the same place (town and country) that you live? If so try to access the sight with it. Make sure it's on the same Internet Network as yours, just to rule out your equipment. Do this before going any farther. John: After they leave today, I will try it on my wife's and daughters boxes, but they are on the same LAN here in the office. Probably there are Internet Cafes in town that use the same ISP that we use at home. Note: 2 minutes ago, I was able to load the Home page of centos.org and also got into the Wiki.Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:12 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: snip $ telnet www.centos.org www Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to www.centos.org (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. HEAD / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.centos.org HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:08:16 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.9 Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=d329988a9d984ee4bbe2e1e2f12d2aa0; path=/ Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT Cache-Control: private, no-cache Pragma: no-cache Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Connection closed by foreign host. note i had to send THREE lines... I used the HEAD command rather than GET so I don't have to stare at a bunch of html. HEAD / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.centos.org (and a blank line to terminate the request) Last night, I reported that I was unable to get that to work on centos.org There was *no* response; but that it did work with my 2 web sites on servers in different DCs in CT. Last night, I could not load centos.org in my web browser. At this time, I can load centos.org in my browser, without problems. Below are the results of 3 tests. Lanny Test #1; [la...@dell2400 ~]$ telnet www.centos.org www Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to www.centos.org (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. HEAD / HEAD/1.1 Host: www.centos.org HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:55:40 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Connection closed by foreign host. [la...@dell2400 ~]$ Test #2: Connection closed by foreign host. [la...@dell2400 ~]$ telnet www.centos.org www Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to www.centos.org (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. HEAD / HEAD/1.1 Host: www.centos.org HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:09:23 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.9 Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=93d50631f0343ff6e881c51badbba880; path=/ Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT Cache-Control: private, no-cache Pragma: no-cache Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Connection closed by foreign host. [la...@dell2400 ~]$ Test #3 When I run the command mtr -c 10 -r centos.org I continue to see the line which includes ??? and 100% loss within the Layered Tech DC in Dallas. I don't know what if anything that indicates. At the time of the below test, I can load centos.org into my browser, without problems. pod22c_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 120.8 136.4 118.6 201.5 26.3 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 148.6 133.1 119.7 161.0 18.0 [r...@dell2400 ~]# ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/21 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: snip When I run the command mtr -c 10 -r centos.org I continue to see the line which includes ??? and 100% loss within the Layered Tech DC in Dallas. I don't know what if anything that indicates. At the time of the below test, I can load centos.org into my browser, without problems. pod22c_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 120.8 136.4 118.6 201.5 26.3 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 148.6 133.1 119.7 161.0 18.0 [r...@dell2400 ~]# Not all routers respond to the icmp packets in these tests. The fact that the trace gets beyond that router is usually enough to imply that the packets get through. I also see the 100% loss at that router, but have no problem with the centos site. Sometimes routers are configured to ignore tests like this all the time, and sometimes they will drop any unnecessary test packets if they are running near their maximum load. The tests are not a go / no go test. Scott: Thank you for the explanation! I've been able to get to the centos.org web site today, without any problems, at various times during the day. Never had problems with it before, until this week. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... As I posted late yesterday afternoon, the problem went away a few days ago, but then began again, yesterday. I can ping the server and traceroute to it, but no http for me from centos.org again. Tru, if you read this, I hope you will reopen the Trouble Ticket at Layered Tech, again. If they believe the problem is not theirs, hopefully they will open a Trouble Ticket with Level3. Traceroute I just made is below. Thank you! Lanny [la...@dell2400 ~]$ traceroute centos.org traceroute to centos.org (72.232.194.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ipcop233 (192.168.10.1) 0.525 ms 0.518 ms 0.530 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 2.100 ms 2.958 ms 2.927 ms 3 dsl-emcali-190.1.240.1.emcali.net.co (190.1.240.1) 23.220 ms 25.265 ms 27.106 ms 4 172.16.1.3 (172.16.1.3) 29.382 ms 31.392 ms 33.774 ms 5 190.90.2.25 (190.90.2.25) 68.564 ms 68.975 ms 69.220 ms 6 so-4-2-3-nmi-core01.nwnnetwork.net (63.245.40.157) 105.957 ms * * 7 * ge-1-1-0-nmi-core02.columbus-networks.com (63.245.5.0) 78.319 ms 76.043 ms 8 xe-8-0-0.edge2.Miami1.Level3.net (4.59.84.5) 89.541 ms 92.189 ms 94.493 ms 9 ae-31-51.ebr1.Miami1.Level3.net (4.69.138.94) 99.756 ms 100.047 ms 101.620 ms 10 ae-2.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.140.133) 144.085 ms 144.384 ms 144.732 ms 11 ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.126) 147.074 ms * * 12 * * ae-42-99.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.196) 137.429 ms 13 DATABANK-HO.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.170.2) 140.261 ms 114.191 ms 118.113 ms 14 ae_cw_10g.databank.com (63.164.96.62) 120.519 ms 124.321 ms aw_cw_10g.databank.com (63.164.96.54) 128.517 ms 15 pod22e_aw.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.178) 128.776 ms 130.954 ms pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.162) 132.805 ms 16 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 114.030 ms !X 116.744 ms !X 116.070 ms !X [la...@dell2400 ~]$ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Lanny Marcus schrieb: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... As I posted late yesterday afternoon, the problem went away a few days ago, but then began again, yesterday. I can ping the server and traceroute to it, but no http for me from centos.org again. snip FYI: this is what I get from my colo'ed box in Germany: snip This got me thinking and I ran mtr (with -c 10 -r): Rainer: Thank you! mtr is a new command for me. Here's what I got; [r...@dell2400 ~]# mtr -c 10 -r centos.org dell2400.homelan Snt: 10Loss% Last Avg Best Wrst StDev ipcop233 0.0% 0.3 0.4 0.3 1.5 0.4 192.168.1.1 0.0% 1.0 1.1 0.8 3.2 0.7 dsl-emcali-190.1.240.1.emcali.net.co 0.0% 12.8 15.7 12.8 17.4 1.5 172.16.1.30.0% 13.5 21.5 12.0 57.1 14.7 190.90.2.25 0.0% 36.4 74.4 36.4 173.0 46.3 so-4-2-3-nmi-core01.nwnnetwork.net0.0% 73.9 81.0 73.9 124.4 15.4 ge-1-1-0-nmi-core02.columbus-networks.com 0.0% 74.5 79.7 74.5 85.7 3.9 xe-8-0-0.edge2.Miami1.Level3.net 0.0% 81.3 84.7 81.3 106.1 7.5 ae-31-51.ebr1.Miami1.Level3.net 0.0% 87.5 89.9 84.0 105.2 6.4 ae-2.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 117.2 119.7 110.0 140.1 10.2 ae-61-61.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 111.8 116.1 110.7 125.6 4.8 ae-12-69.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 111.6 145.3 109.9 249.0 55.1 DATABANK-HO.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 112.0 112.7 109.7 119.4 2.9 ae_cw_10g.databank.com0.0% 111.6 113.6 110.7 126.5 4.8 pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 116.8 115.5 110.7 139.7 8.7 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 111.4 117.4 110.9 140.3 9.8 [r...@dell2400 ~]# So, from this point of view, L3 seems to be losing some packets. At the end, when I ran the mtr command you used, ??? is losing 100% at one router within layered tech.com (the hop after pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com) and the next one, 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com is losing10%? In the loss column, the 2 at the end are within the Layered Tech DC, so it does not look like this is a problem with Level3. Thank you! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/19 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 02:07:15PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: Russ: Same problem with the centos.org web site again from my end. I did go to IRC, as you suggested, and sent a message to #centos-web several minutes ago. Didn't see anyone else there. I hope someone will reopen the Trouble Ticket at Layered Tech. Lanny quoting LT support on re-opened ticket From the traceroute you provided, the only sign of a potential problem appears to be on Level3's network in Dallas. I should also clarify that we did not fix the issue your user was experiencing a few days ago, as we were unable to duplicate the problem. I just ran a test from just-ping.com to your web server, and it looks very good from over 30 locations worldwide. Thank you, Network Operations Layered Technologies Tru: I hope you will reopen the Trouble Ticket with Layered Tech, again! With the mtr -c 10 -r centos.org command Rainer used from Germany (which I used from here and posted results in previous message) and the traceroute Per did from Sweden, with my extremely limited knowledge, I believe the problem is *not* on the Level3 network in Dallas, but in the Layered Tech DC in Dallas. Thank you! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/20 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: ae_cw_10g.databank.com 0.0% 111.6 113.6 110.7 126.5 4.8 pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 116.8 115.5 110.7 139.7 8.7 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 111.4 117.4 110.9 140.3 9.8 [r...@dell2400 ~]# So, from this point of view, L3 seems to be losing some packets. At the end, when I ran the mtr command you used, ??? is losing 100% at one router within layered tech.com (the hop after pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com) and the next one, 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com is losing10%? 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com is www.centos.org Tru: And it's losing 10%? There seems to be a larger problem, before it gets to that server, within LT. If you read the last few messages in this thread, posted this morning (GMT -5 here), by me, Rainer and Per, the LT Tech should be able to track down the problem(s) within their DC. Take care and thank you! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/20/09, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/20 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: ae_cw_10g.databank.com0.0% 111.6 113.6 110.7 126.5 4.8 pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 116.8 115.5 110.7 139.7 8.7 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 111.4 117.4 110.9 140.3 9.8 [r...@dell2400 ~]# So, from this point of view, L3 seems to be losing some packets. At the end, when I ran the mtr command you used, ??? is losing 100% at one router within layered tech.com (the hop after pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com) and the next one, 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com is losing10%? 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com is www.centos.org Tru: And it's losing 10%? There seems to be a larger problem, before it gets to that server, within LT. If you read the last few messages in this thread, posted this morning (GMT -5 here), by me, Rainer and Per, the LT Tech should be able to track down the problem(s) within their DC. Take care and thank you! Lanny Tru: Until Rainer showed the command he used mtr -c 10 -r centos.org I was unaware of it, until this morning. Possibly the 10% loss at the server is OK? I just used that command, to both of my web sites in CT. They are on shared hosting, in different DCs and with different network carriers. Both of them have that 10% loss shown. The traceroute to centos.org that Per did from Sweden this morning seemed to die, within LayeredTech, as I recall. I don't believe the problem to the CentOS server is on Level3, but I do see problems to my site which uses Level3, on 2 Routers in Atlanta and 1 in Washington Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/20/09, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: Tru: I hope you will reopen the Trouble Ticket with Layered Tech, again! With the mtr -c 10 -r centos.org command Rainer used from Germany (which I used from here and posted results in previous message) and the traceroute Per did from Sweden, with my extremely limited knowledge, I believe the problem is *not* on the Level3 network in Dallas, but in the Layered Tech DC in Dallas. Thank you! You seem to be the only one having that problem - are you sure that it is *not* on your side? Ralph: A few nights ago, John Pierce found things not working properly, when he pinged centos.org from one of his servers in San Jose and another John also saw problems. This morning, Rainer in Germany found things awry, when he used the mtr -c 10 -r centos.org command and Per did a traceroute from Sweden, that as I recall, died, within the Layered Tech DC. You are correct in that I am the only one reporting http problems. The Support Tech in Layered Tech reported that he thought there is a problem with Level3 in Dallas, but my impression (and I think that of other people in the list, who are far more knowledgeable than I am) is that the problem is within the Layered Tech DC. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/20/09, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: srv3# mtr -c 10 -r centos.org HOST: srv3.ultra-secure.deLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst snip 'lost packets' on traces from intermediate hops aren't significant, as most routers treat PING as a low priority and if they are busy doing their primary routing job, they'll ignore some percentage of pings. traceroute and its ilk are very inexact tools. your MTR command, run from a San Jose, California machine, gives... snip John: Then I believe the most important data we have are what you found a few nights ago, and the traceroute Per did from Sweden this morning (USA time) that died within the LayeredTech DC. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: snip I did some more pinging later on from one of my servers in San Jose, California, and saw some signs of route instability at layeredwhazza where the next hop after what should have been hte next-to-last one was coming from various routers all going 'no route to destination' I want to bring John's words above back into the thread again, because this is one of the most important messages in the thread. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:48 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: snip I did some more pinging later on from one of my servers in San Jose, California, and saw some signs of route instability at layeredwhazza where the next hop after what should have been hte next-to-last one was coming from various routers all going 'no route to destination' snip I wouldn't put too much faith in that, however. i only saw this once. John: I think Per from Sweden this morning (USA time) found that his traceroute to the server died, within Layered Tech. After Tru filed the Trouble Ticket with LT the other day, it started working again for me, but now it's dead again down here. The LT Tech replied he thought there was a problem on Level3 in Dallas, but my bet is the problem is within the LT DC. Ping times from here are higher than they were a couple of days ago, but faster than pings to my 2 sites in the USA (on shared servers) and now they are very close. The other day, there was a lot of variance in ping times to centos.org Intermittent problems are always the worst to eliminate Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/20/09, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: John R. Dennison wrote: 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 0.0% 13.9 13.1 12.6 snip. And all those plus the ones in the mails you and people before you sent do reach www.centos.org. What are you trying to prove here? Why is nobody talking to layered tech directly, if he/she cannot reach www.centos.org? I really do not understand this thread anymore. Ralph: Tru opened a Trouble Ticket, at Layered Tech, several days ago. The LT Support Tech replied he/she thought there was a problem on Level3 in Dallas. It began working for me shortly after the Trouble Ticket was filed (I thought they had fixed something.), but then died, a day or so later, again. Tru reopened the Trouble Ticket and the LT Tech replied that they could not duplicate the problem (I understand how hard it is to troubleshoot intermittent problems), they had not fixed anything and they felt that it was a problem on Level 3, in Dallas. Probably this thread should die, until more people cannot surf the site. That's what I'm getting, although I can ping it and traceroute to it. As I said, it's an intermittent problem. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/20/09, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On 3/20/09, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Probably this thread should die, until more people cannot surf the site. That's what I'm getting, although I can ping it and traceroute to it. As I said, it's an intermittent problem. Lanny I haven't even seen one try at showing a tcpdump or similar. If you will give me the commands you want me to try, I'll do it. If I get a lot of output from the commands you give me, I put it on pastebin or something like that? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com Probably this thread should die, until more people cannot surf the site. That's what I'm getting, although I can ping it and traceroute to it. As I said, it's an intermittent problem. Lanny I haven't even seen one try at showing a tcpdump or similar. snip Ross: I have an old (2003) book about Network Troubleshooting. It shows an example of using Telnet to Port 80, to see what's happening. I just tried that, and assuming the CentOS server in Layered Tech is configured the same way, which is a huge assumption, it is not responding with HTML. However, I also tried that, to one of my web sites, on a shared server in CT, (I had them disable Telnet and Anonymous FTP) and it does not respond with HTML there either. My browser can load my web site without any problem. Probably this is *NOT* a valid way to test this! Here's what I got, in my 3 attempts: (1) [la...@dell2400 ~]$ telnet 72.232.194.162 80 Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. [la...@dell2400 ~]$ I did not type the GET command and it eventually timed out (2) [la...@dell2400 ~]$ telnet 72.232.194.162 80 Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. GET / I got no response after that and no HTML content. This is the example in the book. (3) [la...@dell2400 ~]$ telnet 72.232.194.162 80 Trying 72.232.194.162... Connected to 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162). Escape character is '^]'. GET I got no response after that and no HTML content It may be a blackhole router between you and the website. Some path that has a slightly smaller MTU but has ICMP disabled so the need to fragment messages aren't sent. When I use the mtr -c 10 -r centos.org someone suggested yesterday, which John Pierce said might not be meaningful with this problem, within Layered Tech, I *always* see one hop in Dallas, with ??? and a 100% loss. What does that mean, if anything, with this problem? ae_cw_10g.databank.com0.0% 113.5 113.7 110.4 116.0 1.9 pod22h_ae.layeredtech.com 0.0% 115.2 114.3 112.5 115.4 1.0 ??? 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com 10.0% 113.4 113.0 111.4 115.6 1.4 [r...@dell2400 ~]# Try pinging with a 1500 byte packet and see if it reaches. If it doesn't decrease the size until it does and you then know what the short MTU size is and you can set that as your MTU on your outside interface of your router. A workaround solution. I used this command: ping -s 1500 centos.org and it does work OK. I get back 1508 bytes, which I believe is correct. Please give me the exact command you want me to try, if that isn't it! I have been thinking about MTU, vaguely remembering things I did years ago, during the past few days. The problem went away, for approximately 24 hours, after Tru filed the initial Trouble Ticket at Layered Tech, but it came back, a day or two later and now I know that Layered Tech didn't change anything and if it is on Level3 as the LT tech thought, they are probably unaware of a problem on their network. It's intermittent from my end. I was able to load the web pages from centos.org on Tuesday after the Trouble Ticket was filed at LT and on Wednesday as I recall and then yesterday, no joy again. Your time and help, and that of everyone else in this thread, are much appreciated! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: snip I haven't even seen one try at showing a tcpdump or similar. snip Ross: I have an old (2003) book about Network Troubleshooting. It shows an example of using Telnet to Port 80, to see what's happening. I just tried that, and assuming the CentOS server in Layered Tech is configured the same way, which is a huge assumption, it is not responding with HTML. However, I also tried that, to one of my web sites, on a shared server in CT, (I had them disable Telnet and Anonymous FTP) and it does not respond with HTML there either. My browser can load my web site without any problem. CORRECTION! After I replied to Ross, I went back to the terminal window and it DID work as the book shows, on my web site in CT. I see all the HTML. It must take a *long* time. I am going to try it again, on the centos.org web site ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:29 PM, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... working fine here, and from two other test locations -- it might make more sense to use the IRC channel for time sensitive reports Russ: Same problem with the centos.org web site again from my end. I did go to IRC, as you suggested, and sent a message to #centos-web several minutes ago. Didn't see anyone else there. I hope someone will reopen the Trouble Ticket at Layered Tech. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/19 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 02:07:15PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: Russ: Same problem with the centos.org web site again from my end. I did go to IRC, as you suggested, and sent a message to #centos-web several minutes ago. Didn't see anyone else there. I hope someone will reopen the Trouble Ticket at Layered Tech. Lanny quoting LT support on re-opened ticket From the traceroute you provided, the only sign of a potential problem appears to be on Level3's network in Dallas. I should also clarify that we did not fix the issue your user was experiencing a few days ago, as we were unable to duplicate the problem. Tru: Thank you for reopening the trouble ticket at Layered Tech and posting their reply! John Pierce found there was a problem, in Dallas, when he did a lot of ping tests to centos.org the night of the 16th. There is a problem and if it isn't within Layered Tech, it must be at Level3 or where they connect. The other day, everyone else was able to load the web site, when I couldn't, so there must be something about our connection that makes the problem visible to me, but not to others. Or, that it involves something on the Level3 route from Miami to Dallas. However, John Pierce was also going in on Level3, from San Jose to Dallas, and he discovered a problem. I would assume, if I assume, that Layered Tech is the one who can report the problem to Level3. Possibly the problem is where Level3 does the interconnection to Layered Tech? This is what John Pierce posted the night of the 16th: I did some more pinging later on from one of my servers in San Jose, California, and saw some signs of route instability at layeredwhazza where the next hop after what should have been the next-to-last one was coming from various routers all going 'no route to destination' and John Stanley wrote on the 17th: But doing another trace to layeredtech and ltdomains shows bad hops also from my end just like John Pierces shows. But still I can access it by WWW. I just ran a test from just-ping.com to your web server, and it looks very good from over 30 locations worldwide. He's right about that. I just pinged centos.org but the web pages are not available to me, but are available to others on the list. Below is a traceroute I just did. Notice hops 8 and 9 are not shown. Lanny [la...@dell2400 ~]$ traceroute centos.org traceroute to centos.org (72.232.194.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ipcop233 (192.168.10.1) 0.516 ms 0.513 ms 0.513 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.397 ms 1.816 ms 1.592 ms 3 dsl-emcali-190.1.248.1.emcali.net.co (190.1.248.1) 16.909 ms 19.273 ms 21.105 ms 4 172.16.1.3 (172.16.1.3) 23.123 ms 14.492 ms * 5 190.90.2.25 (190.90.2.25) 55.225 ms 60.168 ms 60.299 ms 6 so-4-2-1-nmi-core01.nwnnetwork.net (63.245.40.149) 97.314 ms 99.549 ms 109.844 ms 7 ge-1-1-0-nmi-core02.columbus-networks.com (63.245.5.0) 105.428 ms 106.990 ms 109.280 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 ae-2.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.140.133) 118.310 ms 115.144 ms 117.366 ms 11 ae-61-61.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.122) 119.042 ms ae-81-81.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.130) 120.057 ms ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.126) 129.584 ms 12 * ae-42-99.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.196) 120.725 ms 123.532 ms 13 DATABANK-HO.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.170.2) 115.159 ms 115.091 ms 117.425 ms 14 aw_cw_10g.databank.com (63.164.96.54) 118.347 ms 116.937 ms 117.710 ms 15 pod22c_ae.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.202) 117.607 ms 117.466 ms pod22a_aw.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.242) 115.099 ms 16 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 118.377 ms !X 115.107 ms !X 117.395 ms !X [la...@dell2400 ~]$ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: Had a suggestion I try to get a different IP from our ISP and if my wife isn't surfing now, I will try that.. Until today, I have only run into one (1) web site that won't let me on, because my IP is in Colombia. CentOS possibly has become the 2nd one. I hope not! I did some more pinging later on from one of my servers in San Jose, California, and saw some signs of route instability at layeredwhazza where the next hop after what should have been hte next-to-last one was coming from various routers all going 'no route to destination' John: Thank you for doing that additional testing! I came in here just before 3 A.M. and powered up the ADSL modem, IPCop box, etc. Probably have a different IP than I had yesterday. Still can't load pages from centos.org One thing that I noticed yesterday, when I pinged centos.org was that the ping times were varying a lot. I did not mention that yesterday. However, at this time, the ping times for centos.org from here are about the same as they are for my 2 web sites, which are on servers in different NOCs in CT. Within approximately 5 ms. I also found that the site I could not load last year is now loading, without any problem. Sounds like you found a problem they can fix and that they are not blocking IPs from Colombia.:-) Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: Had a suggestion I try to get a different IP from our ISP and if my wife isn't surfing now, I will try that.. Until today, I have only run into one (1) web site that won't let me on, because my IP is in Colombia. CentOS possibly has become the 2nd one. I hope not! One thing you could try is if you have a friend that lives there in Columbia is to try and access it from there computer. They just need to have the same Internet Service Provider. Another way would be through a Proxy Server that is anonymous. But doing another trace to layeredtech and ltdomains shows bad hops also from my end just like John Pierces shows. But still I can access it by WWW. John: Thank you for also confirming there is a network connectivity problem in or near layered tech in Dallas! Much appreciated! I will try to find a free anonymous proxy service that can load the HTML pages, until they cure this glitch. I do not see on the layeredtech.com contact page an address for network connectivity problems. I am going to send an email to support AT layeredtech DOT com and hopefully that will be Forwarded to a Network Tech there who can look into what you and John Pierce found. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: snip Proxy Server that is anonymous. But doing another trace to layeredtech and ltdomains shows bad hops also from my end just like John Pierces shows. But still I can access it by WWW. snip I sent an email to support AT layeredtech DOT com got their auto responder and 5 minutes later Kevin wrote that they need the Server ID and Client ID. I replied to Kevin that I'm only an end user at home and that I will post here and ask one of the CentOS team with Administrative privileges for that server to contact them for support. Sorry for the double post(s) in this thread. gmail died a couple of times, when I was trying to send email. Thank you, to everyone who replied to this thread. Especially to the two John's, who continued pinging centos.org and discovered there is a problem, in or near the Layered Tech NOC in Dallas. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: Had a suggestion I try to get a different IP from our ISP and if my wife isn't surfing now, I will try that.. Until today, I have only run into one (1) web site that won't let me on, because my IP is in Colombia. CentOS possibly has become the 2nd one. I hope not! One thing you could try is if you have a friend that lives there in Columbia is to try and access it from there computer. They just need to have the same Internet Service Provider. Another way would be through a Proxy Server that is anonymous. But doing another trace to layeredtech and ltdomains shows bad hops also from my end just like John Pierces shows. But still I can access it by WWW. John: Thank you for also confirming there is a network connectivity problem in or near layered tech in Dallas! Much appreciated! I will try to find a free anonymous proxy service that can load the HTML pages, until they cure this glitch. I do not see on the layeredtech.com contact page an address for network connectivity problems. I am going to send an email to support AT layeredtech DOT com and hopefully that will be Forwarded to a Network Tech there who can look into what you and John Pierce found. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/17 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:23:47AM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: snip Proxy Server that is anonymous. But doing another trace to layeredtech and ltdomains shows bad hops also from my end just like John Pierces shows. But still I can access it by WWW. snip I sent an email to support AT layeredtech DOT com got their auto responder and 5 minutes later Kevin wrote that they need the Server ID and Client ID. I replied to Kevin that I'm only an end user at home and that I will post here and ask one of the CentOS team with Administrative privileges for that server to contact them for support. I have opened a ticket pointing back to this thread at the hoster. Thanks Tru: THANK YOU!I wrote to Russ, off line, about 4 hours ago. My impression is that the people at Layered Tech are very professional. I'm sure they will eliminate this problem, ASAP. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [SOLVED] Re: OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/17 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: snip e and that I will post here and ask one of the CentOS team with Administrative privileges for that server to contact them for support. I have opened a ticket pointing back to this thread at the hoster. Thanks Tru: THANK YOU! I wrote to Russ, off line, about 4 hours ago. My impression is that the people at Layered Tech are very professional. I'm sure they will eliminate this problem, ASAP. Lanny They did. I can load the web pages from centos.org again. :-) Thanks to everyone on the list who helped and also to the person at Layered Tech who eliminated the glitch! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:29 PM, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... working fine here, and from two other test locations -- it might make more sense to use the IRC channel for time sensitive reports Russ: After Layered Tech eliminated the problem, I saved the web page about CentOS on IRC to my hard drive. If I ever run into something like that again, I'm prepared now Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] Re: OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/17 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:36:28AM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: They did. I can load the web pages from centos.org again. :-) Thanks to everyone on the list who helped and also to the person at Layered Tech who eliminated the glitch! quoting them (Network Operations, Layered Technologies) ... It looks like there may be a probelm with an offsite (non LT) router. I will have networking investigate and get back to you as soon as possible. ... /quote Then a few minutes later :) snip. Tru: Thank you for posting all of that. My first impression yesterday was that maybe there was a problem with Level3, somewhere between Miami and Dallas. I think John Pierce thought last night that it was a router very close to the CentOS server. Level3 is normally very good. One of my web sites in CT uses Level3 from Miami. At this time, centos.org is loading OK for me. The strange thing for me is that everyone who responded was able to load centos.org OK, so there must be something about our connection that caused it to fail for me. If LT notifies you what the problem was, I'm not the only one who is curious. I can ping the IP without any problem, but I was also able to ping the Domain Name without any problem. The thing I did not report yesterday was that the ping times were varying, a lot. This morning, and now, within about 5 ms, which is the same as for my web sites and what I consider normal. Many thanks for contacting LT! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/16/09, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... working fine here, and from two other test locations -- it might make more sense to use the IRC channel for time sensitive reports OK. Good. It may be a temporary connectivity problem, to sites located in certain areas of the USA. Still not loading for me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/16/09, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: R P Herrold wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... working fine here, and from two other test locations -- it might make more sense to use the IRC channel for time sensitive reports yeah, from here and from my work, too, which are on two very different networks. I'm glad it's working for you and Russ. Must be a routing problem from here (I use opendns.com). I can get to my web sites, which are on servers in CT, without any problems, so it seems to be a geographic thing, from my end. Whatever the problem is, the good news is that the CentOS web site is up and running OK for you.:-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On 3/16/09, Flaherty, Patrick pflahe...@wsi.com wrote: Always useful to check with: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ http://internetpulse.net/ http://just-ping.com Before reporting connectivity problems. Cool Pat. I'd never heard of any of those sites before. Thanks. I clicked on your first link, tested CentOS and it's just me. Not sure what the problem is, but hopefully it will go away. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... I know it is working for everyone else. Below is the traceroute. The very slow connection is due to us going over satellite (or via submarine cable?), from Colombia into Miami. I suspect there is a router down or some other problem they will eventually discover? I can load pages from foxnews.com mobile-review.com youtube.com and my 2 sites on servers in CT, without any problems. [la...@dell2400 ~]$ traceroute centos.org traceroute to centos.org (72.232.194.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ipcop233 (192.168.10.1) 0.387 ms 0.370 ms 0.394 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.289 ms 1.301 ms 1.525 ms 3 dsl-emcali-190.1.240.1.emcali.net.co (190.1.240.1) 18.124 ms 27.454 ms 28.734 ms 4 172.16.1.3 (172.16.1.3) 22.938 ms 16.108 ms 21.446 ms 5 190.90.2.25 (190.90.2.25) 63.484 ms 64.420 ms 63.804 ms 6 so-4-2-3-nmi-core01.nwnnetwork.net (63.245.40.157) 123.859 ms 124.120 ms 181.105 ms 7 ge-1-1-0-nmi-core02.columbus-networks.com (63.245.5.0) 136.454 ms 137.090 ms 137.423 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 ae-2.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.140.133) 144.717 ms 109.365 ms 107.428 ms 11 ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.126) 113.921 ms ae-81-81.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.130) 103.768 ms ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.134) 112.911 ms 12 ae-22-79.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.68) 107.676 ms ae-42-99.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.196) 107.077 ms ae-32-89.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.132) 107.756 ms 13 DATABANK-HO.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.170.2) 108.020 ms 108.180 ms 125.328 ms 14 aw_cw_10g.databank.com (63.164.96.54) 125.352 ms ae_cw_10g.databank.com (63.164.96.62) 125.568 ms 123.029 ms 15 pod22c_ae.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.202) 126.035 ms pod22a_aw.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.242) 126.307 ms pod22c_ae.layeredtech.com (63.164.96.202) 126.186 ms 16 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 128.613 ms !X 128.493 ms !X 129.024 ms !X [la...@dell2400 ~]$ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... I know it is working for everyone else. Below is the traceroute. The very slow connection is due to us going over satellite (or via submarine cable?), from Colombia into Miami. its not satellite, or there'd be a hop in the middle that added about 500mS to all further points. speed of light up to geostationary orbit (about 22800 miles, +/- based on the lat/long of the earth stations, and the longitude of the satellite)) and back twice, kinda hard to beat that, and the main reason satellite internet isn't very popular. *per google, (22800 miles * 4) / c = 489.58 milliseconds* (* 4 because your packets woudl go up to orbit and back down, then the response has to go up and back again.) That's good to know. I seem to recall, years ago, they were installing a Submarine cable to the USA. Do you see anything in the traceroute that shows where the problem is? It still won't load for me. I can see when it does the DNS lookup and after that the browser status is Waiting for www.centos.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Marcelo Roccasalva marcelo-cen...@irrigacion.gov.ar wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: [...] 17 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 48.485 ms !X 49.041 ms !X 48.281 ms !X As man traceroute states, !X is communication administratively prohibited... I think they're blocking you somehow... 16 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 136.603 ms !X 136.185 ms !X 133.898 ms !X Marcelo: That is *very* interesting. ¡Gracias! This is probably the first time in a week or two that I have tried to surf CentOS.org and I've *never* had this problem before. If they are now blocking me, because my IP address is in Colombia, I have no idea why they would do that. That's the last hop in the traceroute to centos.org I wonder if that is something layeredtech.com took it upon themselves to implement against those of us in Colombia? Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:45 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 17:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... I know it is working for everyone else. Below is the traceroute. The very slow connection is due to us going over satellite (or via submarine cable?), from Colombia into Miami. --- Something fishey going on here! You can send an email to @centos.org but not www?? Dump all your browser cache out. Appears the traceroute made it. John: I think Marcelo in Argentina hit the nail on the head. Apparently, either layeredtech in Dallas or CentOS is now blocking the IP I am using today, or has begun blocking all IP addresses from Colombia, so I cannot get to the centos web site anymore. Firefox Cache is cleared, automatically, each time I close the browser. We do not pay extra for a Dedicated IP from our ISP, so I am starting to wonder if the one we are using today has been blocked by layeredtech. Or, all of them... Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: That's good to know. I seem to recall, years ago, they were installing a Submarine cable to the USA. Do you see anything in the traceroute that shows where the problem is? It still won't load for me. I can see when it does the DNS lookup and after that the browser status is Waiting for www.centos.org not really. FWIW, here's -my- traceroute from somewhere in northern california to the server... From San Jose you are also going into layeredtech via level3 as I am, once I get to Miami. Rick wrote me, off list, to try traceroute with -T and here's what I got: [r...@dell2400 ~]# traceroute -T centos.org traceroute to centos.org (72.232.194.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ipcop233 (192.168.10.1) 0.608 ms 0.533 ms 0.534 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.596 ms 2.022 ms 1.117 ms 3 162.194.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com (72.232.194.162) 102.337 ms 101.890 ms 20.552 ms [r...@dell2400 ~] Had a suggestion I try to get a different IP from our ISP and if my wife isn't surfing now, I will try that.. Until today, I have only run into one (1) web site that won't let me on, because my IP is in Colombia. CentOS possibly has become the 2nd one. I hope not! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: centos.org web site not responding
2009/3/16 Victor Padro vpa...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com snip The web site for CentOS is not responding. I can ping it OK, but the web site is not responding to http requests from my browser. If the webmaster should happen to read this... I know it is working for everyone else. Below is the traceroute. The very slow connection is due to us going over satellite (or via submarine cable?), from Colombia into Miami. snip Try restarting your router/modem in order to adquire a new IP address from the ISP's pool. maybe that could work Yuk. That is what I did for a long time, so I could use the SMTP on our web sites. Frequently, the IP's I'd get from our ISP were listed with Spamhaus. I gave up and started using Gmail... I will try that, if my wife isn't surfing at this time. It could well be that layeredtech has blocked the IP I got this morning, from the server centos.org uses there. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Wine
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: madunix wrote: Am running Centos5.2 64Bit, want to run windows application on it [...@linux10 ~]$ uname -a Linux 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 19:32:05 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [...@linux10 ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.2 (Final) Which Wine version should i install? Should i go for rpm or tarball package? Which packages should be installed beside Wine? snip Does the windoze application you want to run actually run on Wine?? Check first, as there are many windoze apps that use undocumented short cuts to achieve their aims but thus cause problems for wine. If you are running CentOS it would first of all pay to get current - the version you quote is not! One of the big reasons for CentOS is that users want stability - thus use RPMs, any time you roll your own with tarballs you risk breaking some dependancy - and as always, you get to keep the pieces. I think CentOS and rpmforge do not have wine, epel does, however I find that the packages on this site are not always as robust as I like. YMMV. Do read the CentOS wiki and the many excellent howtos before proceeding. A couple of additional comments. I'm running CentOS 5.2 (32 bit), fully updated, so your 64 bit system will probably differ: (a) I installed Google's Picasa, which installs it's own version of WINE. Runs perfectly. YMMV, depending on what SW you want to run on WINE. Regarding EPEL, I suggest you first have the Priorities plug in installed, which you should have installed already. When I installed the EPEL Repository, 2 or 3 weeks ago, I gave it a a very low priority. The number of Packages being protected, by the Priorities plug in, jumped from approximately 350 to approximately 1650, after I had EPEL installed. You can contemplate what might happen to your box, if you install the EPEL Repository, without giving it a very low priority. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Video Editing
On 3/11/09, Kwan Lowe kwan.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Joseph L. Casale Last time I heard of cinelerra, I looked at the docs and they looked very good. I've tried it. Alas, it would crash so often that it was unusable. I've used Kino a little. It didn't crash but I haven't done much with it besides re-arrange some clips. cinelerra does crash, frequently, but if you read their documentation, they save after everything you do and when you restart it, you can immediately get back to where you were before the crash. Crashing is not a feature, but they are well aware of it. :-) It has (as Akemi pointed out to me) a steep learning curve, but it is extremely powerful. My wife is trying to figure out how to get the audio and video synced properly, when she edits... kino is much easier to learn, but probably much less powerful too. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cannot get CentOS to install
On 3/10/09, William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 16:37 -0500, Michael Peterson wrote: I used google but did not come up with anything current to solve my problem. I have not tried any other search engines yet. There is not a search for the CentOS list so I am creating a new post. Using Google to search you can begin with: site:centos.org and then your search terms snip With only 512MB or ram you will have to use text mode only, IIRC. Also in the archives. There's also some threads that mention noacpi, acpi=no and some other stuff I can't recall. I have installed CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) using the graphical install on a box with 384 MB of RAM. Slow, but it worked. My daughters box is a P4 1.6 GHz with 384 MB of RAM. It will install with 512 MB of RAM, more happily. Wife's box and mine have 512 MB of RAM. The hardware is P4 2.8 CPU, 512 MB RAM, 120GB 3ware IDE/PATA RAID HD, ATI Video, CDRW CD, Dual Nic, Floppy and IDE/PATA Tape drive. Have you tried the CentOS LiveCD on that HW, to see if everything will work properly? I haven't had to use any special parameters, to get the graphical installs to work on our old Desktop boxes. If it won't go with the LiveCD, try another version ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)
On 3/8/09, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Richard Karhuse wrote: Last time I added a DVD burner to my Build system, it cost $29 (USD) and this was for a very good, reliable unit. Not worth my time and immense hassle to do otherwise indeed. Samsung 22X DVD-R burner, SATA for $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173 IDE for $23 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151175 those are very reliable, fast, and good drives. My previous DVD burners, including a Lite-On, a TDK, and a Pioneer, took much longer to 'recognize' a new disk, whether it was blank, factory recorded, or dvd-r, the samsung picks it up in a second. The burns I've made from this drive read reliably on a wide range of equipment, even if I burn at CAV (16X) instead of CLV (= 8x). Note my experience has been that the average life expectancy of a dvd burner is about 400-500 full disk burns, after that they seem to get increasingly flakey. my current Samsung is on its third tub of 100 blanks. In December and January, I bought 2 LG (IDE) DVD burners, in Cali, Colombia, for less than USD$35 each, which includes tax. They both work well. Previously bought TEAC drives, but someone on the list suggested LG instead. John, do you have any experience with the reliability of LG drives, in addition to your experience with the Samsung drives? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] compatibility dell
On 3/6/09, r...@zoioroxo.com.br r...@zoioroxo.com.br wrote: What I say this as the compatibility of the system with hundreds dell server, this is 100% with ADM processors, or not: Do you have a particular Dell Server in mind? What version of CentOS? 32 bit or 64 bit? ¿Tiene un Servidor de Dell? ¿Que modelo? Reply with more information in English and hopefully someone on the list can help you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] compatibility dell
On 3/6/09, r...@zoioroxo.com.br r...@zoioroxo.com.br wrote: What I say this as the compatibility of the system with hundreds dell server, this is 100% with ADM processors, or not: FYI: It is not a good idea to be sending/reading email if you are logged in as root. Do your email when you are logged in as a regular user. Spend as little time as possible logged in as root. The same for us in South America as for everyone in the world.. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] epel-5.2 trying to upgrade to 5.3
On 3/6/09, Marcelo M. Garcia marcelo.maia.gar...@googlemail.com wrote: I just installed CentOS 5.2 (x86_64), and everything was fine. After installing the epel-release-5-2.noarch.rpm, and issuing yum check-update, I can see that epel is trying to upgrade to version 5.3. First I didn't notice the problem, and after upgrading, I got the message error sumary when updating the system. It seems that the x86 (32bit) version is working fine. Do you have the yum priorities plug in installed? If not, you should install it and I suggest you give EPEL a very low priority, to protect your system. I installed the EPEL repository a week or two ago and the number of packages being protected on my 32 bit CentOS 5.2 Desktop went from approximately 350 to approximately 1600. http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file? [Solved]
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Two quick and simple questions; I want to install the WinPower software for my new UPS. On their web site, they have a tar.gz file available for download. I know the reasons for staying with RPM, if at all possible. I've Googled and Yahood for WinPower+RPM+Linux and get hits, but no obvious RPM. I tried yum install winpower and the response was no package winpower available (rpmforge is one of the yum repositories I use, so it's not there, with that name). I read the documentation, again, very slowly. Their default configuration is not set up to Shutdown the box the UPS is connected to. Once I changed the configuration, the test went perfectly. :-) This wasn't the SW for me to try to roll my own RPM with, since the Source code wasn't available to me, etc. Thanks to everyone who replied, I have a lot more understanding about how the SW for your UPS is configured (and why) and a little understanding of what packaging SW involves. Much appreciated! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file? [Solved]
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: This wasn't the SW for me to try to roll my own RPM with, since the Source code wasn't available to me, etc. You don't need source to make an rpm. You can simply use an rpm as an organized way to distribute and keep track of files that are installed. Since installing stuff that isn't an RPM is strongly discouraged, with CentOS, Upstream, etc., for various very valid reasons, it would have been a good learning experience for me. Not sure if I had the Binary. There was a file setup.bin Lots of JRE stuff in the tarball. The Winpower SW and Documentation were probably written in Taiwan by someone whose native language isn't English. Much better than something I write in Spanish. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:43 AM, William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 18:41 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I need to do a simulated power failure, to verify that it will in fact shutdown the box after 2 minutes! Plug the PC into a stable power source, let the same PC monitor the UPS. Unplug the UPS and place a load on it, watch what it instructs the PC to do :) I plugged the UPS into a surge protector and after awhile, I cut the OOPS!? It used to be that the manual for all the UPSs I've used said to _not_ plug it into a surge suppressor, IIRC. Has that changed? It had something to do with the wave form from the suppressor vs. the box's monitoring circuitry. You are correct. Normally, each of our UPS is plugged directly into a wall outlet. I plugged mine into a surge protector, to do the simulated power failure for to see if it would shutdown the box. I don't think that has anything to do with not shutting down though. Either the WinPower SW will not shut down the box after 2 minutes or there is something unclear to me about the settings. I read their documentation again and everything is set to their default settings, which looks like it should shut down the box after a 2 minute power failure. snip This was a lesson for me, about the many advantages of Open Source, rather than Proprietary SW. When I looked at the contents of the tarball and saw a lot of JRE stuff, and no Source code, I was disappointed. They wrote it, they sold it to a bunch of companies that make UPS, but they do not support it. No community. Probably the only other Proprietary SW I have installed is Google's Picasa and Earth, but they have Community, if one should have a problem, which I haven't had. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Phil Schaffner p.r.schaff...@ieee.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: snip discovered rpm.org and will do some online reading about RPM there. Long ago on a planet far away... (-: or was that near the beginning of this thread? :-) checkinstall was mentioned. By you and I installed it, shortly after I read your post. Thanks! less /usr/share/doc/checkinstall-1.6.0/README less /usr/share/doc/checkinstall-1.6.0/FAQ checkinstall --help May be a moot point given other recent posts in the thread, but for creating an RPM from scratch see: http://genetikayos.com/code/repos/rpm-tutorial/trunk/rpm-tutorial.html Thank you for that link. I will read it later. If a spec file is included then rpmbuild -ta tarballname.tgz may work. If that's all it takes, with a spec file, easy. As you probably know, when I looked at the contents of the tarball yesterday, it was a lot of JRE stuff. No source, no spec file. When I need something that isn't packaged and I try to roll my first package, I need at least the Binary and hopefully the Source. Open Source :-) Rolling your own RPM if a spec file is not included in the tarball is an exercise left for the student RPM builder. I did some reading yesterday of a book about RPM on rpm.org and writing a spec file looks like something that may involve a lot of trial and especially error, to get it correct. With regard to the UPS, will look into nuts and apcupds more when I can, to see if I can figure out how to configure them for this UPS. We still have one Tripp Lite UPS that works, so I need to get their SW and see if it will shutdown that box. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: Either the WinPower SW will not shut down the box after 2 minutes or there is something unclear to me about the settings. I read their documentation again and everything is set to their default settings, which looks like it should shut down the box after a 2 minute power failure. Maybe the engrish docs weren't clear, could it be possible that the software will not shut down until there are 2 minutes left on the battery instead of 2 minutes after an outage? With most UPSs I have used the default is to not to issue a shut down until the battery condition is low. Try the test again and let the UPS run until the battery runs out and see if it ever shuts down. H. You may be on to something with that idea! :-) When I downloaded the SW (45.3 MB, which is enormous, compared to nut or apcupsd), I did a traceroute on the domain and it ended in .tw (Taiwan). I will try testing it your way and see what happens BTW, years ago, I worked with a bunch of people from Taiwan and they were pretty sharp. This WinPower SW is *much* more basic in what it does than what we were doing in Assembly Language on barefoot mini computers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware compatibility IM-945GC Intel Atom Mini-ITX
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: Can this MB be used with Centos 4 (or 5)? For reference: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ms_9832 On that URL it says: 'Availability: Expected 03/28/2009 Please choose “Mainboard Test” to ensure that the board is free from manufacturer’s defects, errors, etc. If “Mainboard Test” is selected, please allow 1-2 full business days for completion before shipment date.' If you are a customer of logicsupply maybe you can get them to test one of those boards, after they receive them, with a CentOS Live CD, to see if everything works properly. snip. Going back to the first days of January, when I thought the mainboard in my Desktop box needed to be repaired or replaced, first I looked at an MSI board in the store where the motherboard repairman is. Then, at a Biostar. I went to the web sites of both manufacturers. From Biostar, I was able to download their manuals, etc., which I like a lot. No experience with either company and not with that technology. Dell put a FoxConn mainboard in this Dell Dimension and I noticed that one of our other Dell Dimensions has a FoxConn PSU. Many people here on this list can give you much better data, but do check out the web sites of the mainboard OEMs you are interested in. Hopefully, some people here will recommend HW for you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware compatibility IM-945GC Intel Atom Mini-ITX
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I don't think we can use this new MB since the Realtek 8111C does not seem to be supported (well) You can make that work, someone just posted a link to an alternative sk98lin module to the atrpms one a few weeks ago. Realtek nics are crap anyway, but given the mobo, I don't think critical availability is your primary need. In the back of my mind, I have down that the motherboard repairman was not enthusiastic about MSI mainboards. The vast majority of the boards he works on are for desktops and possibly in that building, where there are a lot of stores that sell computers and components, the majority of the boards sold are MSI. He seemed much more enthusiastic about the Biostar board, had I needed one. (New PSU eliminated the problems). I suggest you read reviews on http://www.motherboards.org/ and newegg.com and tigerdirect.com for similar boards made by MSI and other companies, to get an idea of their quality and reliability. The Realtek NIC could be the least of your problems with an MSI board? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 19:39, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Looks like rpmfind doesn't show any for RHEL :/ You might have to roll your own. Let's try and get Apcupsd working first, your config was wrong to start so its worth trying again. NUT RPMs seems to be available from EPEL. NUT 2.2.0 is available for CentOS 5. Here are the i386 RPMs: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/nut.html I just installed the repo file for EPEL (and gave it a very low priority). I installed nut and nut-client from EPEL. When I try to start the ups daemon, I get the below error: ups failed. The error was: Starting UPS driver controller: [FAILED] Starting upsd: [FAILED] Starting UPS monitor (master): [FAILED] If I can't get apcupsd or nut configured properly, then I will try the WinPower software the UPS manufacturer (and many others) specify. I have the tar ball on my hard drive (45.3 MB) and maybe I can roll my own RPM for the first time. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] trying to install 5.2 on a laptop
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Michael Klinosky m...@enter.net wrote: Ok, I modified xorg.conf, but it didn't help (still getting that error, and X refuses to start). I could re-install, but I don't like that notion (I definitely don't want all the packages in the default setup, so I have to go thru every group and sub-group to de-select most - that was a big hassle with a 'keypad mouse'). So, is there another way? Would it work if I merely put the synaptics.so on a usb stick and copied it? Another thing you might do is try the CentOS LiveCD on your laptop, to see if this distro will run properly on it. Laptops are frequently more difficult to install CentOS on. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Filipe Brandenburger
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
NUT RPMs seems to be available from EPEL. NUT 2.2.0 is available for
CentOS 5. Here are the i386 RPMs:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/nut.html
snip
If I can't get apcupsd or nut configured properly, then I will try
the WinPower software the UPS manufacturer (and many others) specify.
I have the tar ball on my hard drive (45.3 MB) and maybe I can roll
my own RPM for the first time.
I would like to roll my own RPM for the WinPower UPS monitoring
software. Never done this before. I have the WinPower tarball on my
box. I have installed the development tools. I followed Filipe's How
to:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment
and these commands:
mkdir -p ~/rpmbuild/{BUILD,RPMS,SOURCES,SPECS,SRPMS}
echo '%_topdir %(echo $HOME)/rpmbuild' ~/.rpmmacros
(for a non root user)
Questions:
(1) After I unzip the WinPower tarball, what command(s) do I use to
create an RPM for WinPower?
(2) Is there any need to install the development kernel for this?
(This is a fully updated CentOS 5.2 box, 32 bit)
TIA!
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Filipe Brandenburger
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
NUT RPMs seems to be available from EPEL. NUT 2.2.0 is available for
CentOS 5. Here are the i386 RPMs:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/nut.html
snip
If I can't get apcupsd or nut configured properly, then I will try
the WinPower software the UPS manufacturer (and many others) specify.
I have the tar ball on my hard drive (45.3 MB) and maybe I can roll
my own RPM for the first time.
I would like to roll my own RPM for the WinPower UPS monitoring
software. Never done this before. I have the WinPower tarball on my
box. I have installed the development tools. I followed Filipe's How
to:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment
and these commands:
mkdir -p ~/rpmbuild/{BUILD,RPMS,SOURCES,SPECS,SRPMS}
echo '%_topdir %(echo $HOME)/rpmbuild' ~/.rpmmacros
(for a non root user)
Questions:
(1) After I unzip the WinPower tarball, what command(s) do I use to
create an RPM for WinPower?
(2) Is there any need to install the development kernel for this?
(This is a fully updated CentOS 5.2 box, 32 bit)
Follow on: Neither of the 2 books I have for reference explain how to
do this. Looks like the SPEC file is the biggest mystery for me. I
discovered rpm.org and will do some online reading about RPM there.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I need to do a simulated power failure, to verify that it will in fact shutdown the box after 2 minutes! Plug the PC into a stable power source, let the same PC monitor the UPS. Unplug the UPS and place a load on it, watch what it instructs the PC to do :) I plugged the UPS into a surge protector and after awhile, I cut the power to the UPS. The UPS continued to supply power to the box and monitor and the alarm beeped. All OK. But, the WinPower software supplied for the UPS did *not* shut the box down, after 2 minutes of power failure, as I expected. The reason I installed the WinPower SW was so it could shut down the box Here's the output: [la...@dell2400 Winpower]$ ./monitor Starting Winpower Manager: Done [la...@dell2400 Winpower]$ Broadcast message from root (Sun Mar 1 18:03:28 2009): /usr/local/Winpower/UPSPILOT.TRA Broadcast message from root (Sun Mar 1 18:03:28 2009): Winpower Message: LINE-INT in /dev/ttyS0 input power failed Broadcast message from root (Sun Mar 1 18:08:52 2009): Winpower Message: LINE-INT in /dev/ttyS0 input power restored. Broadcast message from root (Sun Mar 1 18:08:52 2009): /usr/local/Winpower/UPSPILOT.TRA As you can see, I killed the power to the UPS for 5 minutes, but the WinPower SW did *not* shut down the box. The monitoring part of the WinPower SW works well, but their default settings are for it to shutdown the box if the battery is low or after a 2 minute power failure. I will RFM the WinPower manual, but if I don't find a solution there, there's nobody to contact, so then nut and apcupsd become much more interesting, again. snip bios powers up after power returns so when the outage is over, everything returns to normal. BIOS is set to power up the box when power is restored. snip. I would be as well:) Apcupsd and NUT are both stable, popular and well documented projects. I am not sure about the one you are using... The WinPower software for the UPS is apparently proprietary and I don't see a way to contact them. That's the best way for them to do it. If users have problems, the problems are for the users and they don't have to support the users. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Apcupsd apparently runs with some of the UPS not made by APC, but looks like it will not work with mine. Here's what's in the Service data for : apcupsd (pid 6568) is running... Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused That doesn't mean it can't contact your ups, that means you have it setup wrong:) What interface does your ups use? Serial, ether, usb? What model #? Serial port communications. It is made by Nicomar Electronics in Bogota, Colombia. 750 VA Line Interactive UPS. The software they say to use (WinPower) is apparently widely used, by Belkin UPS and many others. The WinPower software download site is in Taiwan, so now I wonder whether or not they just sell the software to the OEMs or if they manufacturer the UPS and put a brand name on them and ship them from Taiwan apcupsd was very easy to install with yum and the documentation for it is easy to download. nut is a different story and not so easy to know what to download. And, I didn't see a .pdf file I could download with the nut documentation. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I've got the package below installed now. Is that the right one? No Running Transaction Installing: perl-UPS-Nut # [1/1] Installed: perl-UPS-Nut.noarch 0:0.04-1.el5.rf Complete! Slow down a bit son, anything with a Perl- in the front is, well, a perl module:) After I clicked send, immediately after I clicked send, I realized that it was a perl module. That's the only nut package I came up with, when I searched with yum, so I didn't have the proper search terms. You should have done a yum info first. # yum info perl-UPS-Nut.noarch snip Summary: Perl module to talk to a UPS via Network UPS Tools (NUT) upsd Description: perl-UPS-Nut is a Perl module to talk to a UPS via NUT (Network UPS Tools) upsd. This package contains the following Perl module: UPS::Nut Looks like rpmfind doesn't show any for RHEL :/ You might have to roll your own. Let's try and get Apcupsd working first, your config was wrong to start so its worth trying again. Thank you! I feel better about not finding the packages for nut, when I searched with yum! :-) I hope apcupsd will work with this UPS, if I can configure it properly. I will try apcupsd again. What should I change in the config for apcupsd? Just a little bit of knowledge, which is what I have about Linux, can be *extremely* dangerous I had come up with the idea that I might need to roll my own package(s) for nut, but I will really need to RFM before even thinking about trying to do that, because I'm not sure what that involves I have 2 books: Running Linux and Red Hat Fedora and Enterprise Linux 4 Bible which probably will explain that, along with the CentOS Wiki. The development tools are installed on this box, if I need them to do that. Joe: Thank you very much. And you called me son. Who is older? :-) Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 19:39, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Looks like rpmfind doesn't show any for RHEL :/ You might have to roll your own. Let's try and get Apcupsd working first, your config was wrong to start so its worth trying again. NUT RPMs seems to be available from EPEL. NUT 2.2.0 is available for CentOS 5. Here are the i386 RPMs: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/nut.html Filipe: Thank you! I will add the EPEL Repository and get the nut rpms there. That should be a lot easier than rolling my own (and much faster, since I've never done that), which Joe said I might need to do. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
Two quick and simple questions; I want to install the WinPower software for my new UPS. On their web site, they have a tar.gz file available for download. I know the reasons for staying with RPM, if at all possible. I've Googled and Yahood for WinPower+RPM+Linux and get hits, but no obvious RPM. I tried yum install winpower and the response was no package winpower available (rpmforge is one of the yum repositories I use, so it's not there, with that name). (a) Is an RPM available for it? (If so, where and what's the name?) (b) If I need to download the tar.gz file and install from that, it looks from their documentation that they install into /opt/MonitorSoftware Is it better to install into /usr/local or into /opt? What is the recommendation for a CentOS box, when installing non RPM software? Where best to install non RPM stuff? TIA! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Repo order - priority plugins
On 2/27/09, Linux Advocate linuxhous...@yahoo.com wrote: Guys, what is the best way of arranging the repos with regards to their priority? Any ideas, especially for all non base ones? /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo - priority = 1, 2 /etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/kbs-extras.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/kbs-misc.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmforge.repo How would we position dags repo? Check out this URL: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I tried yum install winpower and the response was no package winpower available (rpmforge is one of the yum repositories I use, so it's not there, with that name). It's not, but that search method could be expanded: # yum list \*winpower\* # yum list \*win\* # yum list \*win\* |grep -i you get the picture... etc etc Try Apcupsd, it is a very complete enterprisable package that just runs well. Thank you. I will give apcupsd a shot. We don't have any APC units, but, possibly, it will work with our UPS. If not, I will try to get WinPower running properly. I will also try your suggestions for searching with yum. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Thank you. I will give apcupsd a shot. We don't have any APC units, but, possibly, it will work with our UPS. If not, I will try to get WinPower running properly. I will also try your suggestions for searching with yum. I forgot to mention Network UPS Tools (NUT). That also works with many. NUT is the one Anne is trying to get to work with her Leibert (sp?) UPS. I will try apcupsd first. On Wikipedia they say it works with some OEM UPS too. Possibly with ours Thanks! I did search on yum with your search suggestions, but no joy. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: (b) If I need to download the tar.gz file and install from that, it looks from their documentation that they install into /opt/MonitorSoftware Is it better to install into /usr/local or into /opt? What is the recommendation for a CentOS box, when installing non RPM software? Where best to install non RPM stuff? TIA! I prefer /usr/local and that seems to be more common, but either should work. As for tarball installs - to be avoided if possible Phil: Thank you. /usr/localif I need to install tarballs. Which I avoid, if possible! - there's always checkinstall. Name : checkinstall Arch : i386 Version: 1.6.0 Release: 3.el5.rf Size : 82 k Repo : rpmforge Summary: CheckInstall installations tracker Description: CheckInstall keeps track of all the files created or modified by your installation script (make install make install_modules, setup, etc), builds a standard binary package and installs it in your system giving you the ability to uninstall it with your distribution's standard package management utilities. Wow. Thank you! I will install Checkinstall, in a few minutes. We have fresh Colombian coffee in the kitchen. Colombian Beer is also very good. We are *big* fans of the Space Shuttle program.Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Repo order - priority plugins
On 2/27/09, Linux Advocate linuxhous...@yahoo.com wrote: Guys, what is the best way of arranging the repos with regards to their priority? Any ideas, especially for all non base ones? /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo - priority = 1, 2 /etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo There have been some threads on this list, in the past, about EPEL. If I were going to use it, probably it would have the lowest priority, to protect my box. This comment may start a flame war, but I suggest you read the archives, to understand the possible issues that may be involved, if you use EPEL. /etc/yum.repos.d/kbs-extras.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/kbs-misc.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmforge.repo How would we position dags repo? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I tried yum install winpower and the response was no package winpower available (rpmforge is one of the yum repositories I use, so it's not there, with that name). snip Try Apcupsd, it is a very complete enterprisable package that just runs well. Apcupsd apparently runs with some of the UPS not made by APC, but looks like it will not work with mine. Here's what's in the Service data for apcupsd: apcupsd (pid 6568) is running... Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused I'll stop that daemon, uninstall it and install nut. I like the name better and hopefully it will work with this UPS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Thank you. I will give apcupsd a shot. We don't have any APC units, but, possibly, it will work with our UPS. If not, I will try to get WinPower running properly. I will also try your suggestions for searching with yum. I forgot to mention Network UPS Tools (NUT). That also works with many. I've got the package below installed now. Is that the right one? Now, I need to RFM to find out how to configure and run it Running Transaction Installing: perl-UPS-Nut # [1/1] Installed: perl-UPS-Nut.noarch 0:0.04-1.el5.rf Complete! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/09, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: snip I forgot to mention Network UPS Tools (NUT). That also works with many. I've got the package below installed now. Is that the right one? Now, I need to RFM to find out how to configure and run it Running Transaction Installing: perl-UPS-Nut # [1/1] Installed: perl-UPS-Nut.noarch 0:0.04-1.el5.rf Complete! I doubt the one above is the correct one. Lots of stuff available for nut, but I'm not sure which is the right one for me and where to get it. (CentOS 5.2, 32 bit). If I can't get this to go, I will download the tarball for WinPower (45.2 MB) and install that over the weekend. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: I've got the package below installed now. Is that the right one? Now, I need to RFM to find out how to configure and run it it's only part of it, typically there are 3 nut packages, one for perl, one for the main nut, and one that contains cgi scripts(sometimes another one specifically for usb). First I would check what version of NUT your installing and try to validate whether or not your UPS is supported by checking the homepage: Nate: Thank you. I will RFM the documentation for nut (hopefully I can download a .pdf file for it) and then try to get the right packages. If it doesn't support my UPS then I'll download the 45.2 MB tarball for WinPower. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] (a) WinPower RPM available? (b) where to install if use tar.gz file?
On 2/27/09, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/09, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: snip First I would check what version of NUT your installing and try to validate whether or not your UPS is supported by checking the homepage: The Nicomar Electronics UPS we bought a few weeks ago (made in Bogota, Colombia) is not on their list. I suspect nut might work with it, but, maybe not snip I just finished downloading the WinPower tarball (from Taiwan). 45.3 MB. I will install it over the weekend. Thanks much to everyone! Greatly appreciated ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to test serial port connection
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:37 AM, William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 12:31 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 11:34, William L. Maltby wrote: snip As to the OP original question, check BIOS settings and make sure your serial is enabled. Set it to COM 3 and IRQ 4 should work. This would equate to 0 in an *IX system. Yes, it says COM Port 1 3F8/IRQ4 The Leibert manual for the UPS hopefully has some data about the software they supply with it, assuming they do supply software with it. Disable the Serial Ports they are not using, in BIOS. Probably 8N1 for the communications settings, along with the Baud rate? Like Bill, it's been a long time since I did anything with RS-232C communications.. Check the connector on the box, to be sure the cable to it is seated properly. The cable they supplied with the UPS is probably OK, but, maybe not. Even in the 3 off brand UPS we bought, a few weeks ago, they have capability to communicate. Not using it, but on the box it says, RS-232 Interface Monitoring UPS status through RS-232 Communication Port by downloaded software. If your UPS didn't come with Software, see if they have it available for Download. I suspect they do. Probably, it'll only work with M$ Windows, but if you can install it on a Windoze box, you can get an idea of what they want. If you are very lucky, it will work on Linux too. GL ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to test serial port connection
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:55:22 William L. Maltby wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:55 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 26 February 2009 13:37, William L. Maltby wrote: snip Feb 26 12:12:25 borg2 kernel: serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A Feb 26 12:12:25 borg2 kernel: serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A snip Oddly enough my husband can get quite tetchy if I spend more than 12 hours a day with a computer :-) Feb 26 12:12:25 borg2 kernel: 00:05: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A BTW, someone mentioned RS-232C. That was me (Lanny). That's the cable and electrical specifications. A Serial Device : /dev/ttyS0 B Lockfile Location : /var/lock C Callin Program : D Callout Program : E Bps/Par/Bits : 38400 8N1 F Hardware Flow Control : Yes G Software Flow Control : No Hardware flow control is suspect _if_ the device doesn't allow flow until some event is seen, e.g. DTR or DCD and/or some information from the device is ready to be transmitted. This could make it look like nothing is working. But that really depends on how the device is supposed to behave. However, as I recall, if it works properly, it is always preferable to use HW Flow Control and not SW Flow Control. Let the HW do the work, if possible. (motto of how many SW Engineers?) Anne: I suggest you check out the SW that is available for that UPS! After I got home awhile ago, I took at look at the SW Download page for the 3 off brand (made in Bogota, Colombia) Line Interactive UPS we bought a few weeks ago. Here is the URL: http://www.ups-software-download.com/winpower.htm As you can see, their SW is available for a variety of OS, including Linux (although not an .RPM). I am willing to bet the SW for your UPS is also available for Linux. Check it out! (BTW, I have no idea what language some of the stuff on that page is in. It is not Spanish ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to test serial port connection
On 2/26/09, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: snip (BTW, I have no idea what language some of the stuff on that page is in. It is not Spanish Kinda looks like Italian, or Portuguese. Maybe online translated if the syntax or usage looks wierd. I agree with that. Italian or Portuguese. I am very curious now. I am going to get the Serial cable that came with the Nicomar Electronics (Bogota, Colombia) UPS we bought a few weeks ago, hook the UPS up to my box and try that SW. First in M$ Windows and then in Linux. If Anne's UPS didn't come with SW (or it's not downloadable) I would be very surprised. She should not need to reinvent the wheel. The idea of having the UPS shutdown the box, if the box is unattended, is very nice.:-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to test serial port connection
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I recently bought a new UPS, and I'm attempting to use nut to monitor it. Following setup instructions everything seemed to go well until it came to testing the connection, which failed. snip Possibly something on one of these URLs will help you; http://www.networkupstools.org/ http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/UPS-HOWTO/#AEN187 You are trying to use nut and it is failing. Have you tried to use something else, to verify the connection is working OK? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new user - with questions
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Michael Klinosky m...@enter.net wrote: I've been using Fedora since about the FC6 era, for home use. I don't like the 6 month upgrade (or re-install) concept, and I don't need the latest greatest versions of apps. So, CentOS sounds enticing. snip I want to add several things, to the previous (and excellent) replies. (a) This is an Enterprise Distro, lacking a lot of Multimedia Applications you might have had in FC. Follow this page on the CentOS Wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/MultimediaOnCentOS (b) Install the Priorities Plug in and verify that it works, before you use any 3rd party yum repositories http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities (c) Instll the FastestMirror Plug In http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/FastestMirror This is a super mailing list, with extremely helpful people, including the Developers participating. Welcome! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new user - with questions
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Michael Klinosky m...@enter.net wrote: What is the situation with multi-media additions (e.g. SWflash, mpeg)? Do the repositories have decoders and such? Hmmm. I answered your question about Multimedia, before I read it. :-) I am listening on Streamaudio.com to KEAG-FM in Anchorage, using the mplayer plugin for Mozilla Firefox as I write this. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new user - with questions
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Michael Klinosky m...@enter.net wrote: What is the situation with multi-media additions (e.g. SWflash, mpeg)? Do the repositories have decoders and such? Follow on: You can get Google's Picasa for Linux. My wife uses it on M$ Windows. I had her help me with it one day and she had no idea she wasn't using Picasa on Windows. She said it is the same. The only thing I haven't gotten to work yet (I need to return to that problem and spend time with it until I solve it!) is microphone output, when using Skype on Linux. That's apparently a setting somewhere in Linux. Many others on this list have Skype on Linux running properly. I also have Google Earth running on Linux. Works well. Recently, we got a Digital Camcorder. The kino video editor is quite easy to use. There is another one that has a long learning curve, but it is extremely powerful: cinelerraHTH ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Gpg-agent will not start
On 2/18/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:44, Phil Schaffner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 16:25:07 Steve Huff wrote: On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What am I missing? ask yum: snip Thanks, Phil and Rex. Everything's absolutely fine, now. That just leaves the terrible konqueror problem, and no-one seems to have any ideas on that. :-( Anne: Glad you eliminated that problem! I'm curious as to why you are using the Konqueror web browser. The version that comes with CentOS is quite basic. I use Mozilla Firefox 99% of the time, but there have been a few times when I needed to use Konqueror, to get into a few web sites. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Gpg-agent will not start
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 18:50:03 Lanny Marcus wrote: On 2/18/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:44, Phil Schaffner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 16:25:07 Steve Huff wrote: Thanks, Phil and Rex. Everything's absolutely fine, now. That just leaves the terrible konqueror problem, and no-one seems to have any ideas on that. :-( Anne: Glad you eliminated that problem! I'm curious as to why you are using the Konqueror web browser. The version that comes with CentOS is quite basic. I use Mozilla Firefox 99% of the time, but there have been a few times when I needed to use Konqueror, to get into a few web sites. Lanny I was trying to use Konqueror as a file manager :-) The root konqueror (and other users' konqueror) were all fine, but my ~/.kde got nuked during extreme snip Thank you for the explanation. If you use KDE (I rarely do, but we use some KDE Applications), I think that's the plan. To use Konqueror as your File Manager. Sounds like the Navigation is tough. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Gpg-agent will not start
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:25:44 Lanny Marcus wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 18:50:03 Lanny Marcus wrote: On 2/18/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:44, Phil Schaffner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 16:25:07 Steve Huff wrote: snip Anne: Glad you eliminated that problem! I'm curious as to why you are using the Konqueror web browser. The version that snip I was trying to use Konqueror as a file manager :-) The root konqueror (and other users' konqueror) were all fine, but my ~/.kde got nuked during extreme snip Thank you for the explanation. If you use KDE (I rarely do, but we use some KDE Applications), I think that's the plan. To use Konqueror as your File Manager. Sounds like the Navigation is tough. When it's working properly it's a breeze, but everything that makes file management possible is what I'd lost :-( I'm a happy bunny now, though. It's all working again, and (fingers crossed and hope fate isn't listening) I think that gpg and konqueror were the last problems to iron out. They were also among the most important, though, after IMAP. Glad you have things up and running again. Since you use KDE, and to get closer to the topic of this thread, do you use KGpg? I've tried it a few times. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] After electric breaking: HARDWARE ERROR Kernel panic
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:35 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Vnpenguin wrote: After an electric breaking, my server (Centos 5.2 x86_64 with all updates) can not boot. The error message on screen is: Memory for crash kernel (0x0 to 0x0) notwithin permissible range 0 HARDWARE ERROR CPU 1: Machine Check Exception: 7 Bank 4: RIP 10:. TSC 133eab63c9 ADDR 24fe3d028 This is not a software problem! Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware vendot Kernel panic - not syncing: Uncorrected machine check you have a hardware problem. something fried on the motherboard, possibly the ram, maybe something else.. if the server is on some sort of service contract or warranty, call the hardware or support vendor. if not, find someone skilled at troubleshooting x86_64 server hardware. snip I doubt a warranty will cover electrical damage, but you can ask. An insurance policy is more likely to cover this. :-)Run Diagnostics on the RAM (which is the reported error) and your motherboard. The PSU may also be damaged. Run Diagnostics on the hard drives, after you get it up and running. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Digital Video Editor for CentOS 5.2 - Suggestions?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: We are finally going to replace our VHS-C Camcorder, with a Digital Camcorder, tomorrow. Looking for suggestions, for Digital Video Editor to use on CentOS 5.2. Preferably, something in the CentOS or RPMForge repositories and easy to use. TIA! Cinelerra. It is very powerful, and Dag kindly added to his repo quite sometime ago. http://cinelerra.org/ The only problem is that, because it is so powerful and feature rich, learning curve is very steep. I have yet to learn it myself but I already know its capabilities through my best Linux friend who is an expert in video editing. Akemi: My wife was successful with cinelerra, for the first time, last night. :-)I suggested she RFM, but when she is frustrated, like most people, she doesn't want to RFM. She really likes kino, easy to use, but there were problems, with the quality of some of the videos, after she used kino on them. One of these days, she will download the Spanish language cinelerra manual and read the Spanish language tutorial and then she will be on her way with cinelerra.. :-) Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Suggestions for connecting a postfix to an sms box
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Erick Perez eaper...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to hear some hardware recomendations to connect our smtp server (postfix) to an external SMS box. Basically I am looking for a SMS box that takes messages via smtp and sends them via the SMS part. Has anyone here implemented a solution like this? I must use an in house sms box (GSM), I cannot use a service provider (such as internet smtp to sms providers). One of our neighbors down the street is an Electronic Engineer for one of the Colombian cell phone operators. They began converting from CDMA to GSM several years ago. If you end up needing a Consultant, for any GSM stuff you are involved with, contact me off list and I will put you in touch with him. Cali is one hour from Panama City, on COPA, etc. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What is the System Event Log?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: on 2-10-2009 5:44 AM Timothy Murphy spake the following: Spiro Harvey wrote: snip On swapping the two 2GB memory modules, the message changed to Uncorrectable ECC Error DIMM 2,2. This seemed to me to be pretty strong evidence that the fault was indeed with one of the memory modules. Unfortunately it was difficult to convince Dell of this. The technical support man I spoke to (in Scotland) claimed that it might be a software error caused by installing Windows XP Pro as a second OS on the machine. We have four Dell Dimension boxes in our house. They have the right to require one to restore the system (HW SW) to the original configuration, before you get Tech Support. Usually they are not that hard nosed about it, but it requires some patience. Obviously, in this case, you could have booted from the CentOS LiveCD and run memtest86 on the memory, or, you could have run Dell's Diagnostics on it, which probably would have been more satisfying to the Dell guy in Scotland. IMHO, you are lucky you were not talking with someone in India or some other country. Many 1st level tech support people have a book of scripts they have to follow, and anything not in those scripts throws them off. You almost always have to escalate to the next level to actually talk to someone who is allowed to think for themselves. That can also apply to getting parts, for those of us who do not live in the USA. Some years ago, I needed a new Bezel for one of our boxes. The Spare Parts person said special permission was needed, to ship it to me, from the USA. Since they had shipped the box down here, I could not believe it. I contacted Dell Management and they sent me the Bezel. Our impression is that Dell Latin America has *much* better Tech Support than they provide in the USA. We always recommend Dell to people here who are contemplating buy a new PC, because of their Support. They have really stood behind our purchases. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What is the System Event Log?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On swapping the two 2GB memory modules, the message changed to Uncorrectable ECC Error DIMM 2,2. snip He said 'ECC memory', which to me indicates this is a PowerEdge server, not a Dimension consumer desktop. you get a whole different level of support from the Server folks than you do from the consumer desktop folks. I hope so. Servers should be supported better than Consumer Desktop boxes. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [SOLVED] Re: Sound with headphones on: Streamaudio perfect but youtube and system-config-soundcard silent
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:14 AM, William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 21:13 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: This afternoon, I bought a pair of ear plugs (the large flat kind that hook onto my ears). Plugged them in to test and they work perfectly. I'm listening to streamaudio.com as I type this.However, when I tried to watch a youtube.com video (my wife exercise dancing) just silence. She had the same video on to test and the sound was fine on her box. Then, I tried system-config-soundcard and with the volume set at 100%, just silence. Does this have to do with lower voltages coming from youtube.com and system-config-soundcard or is there some other explanation and a cure? TIA I would be surprised if voltage settings from a remote location could affect this. You are coming over the net, right? Your signal strength would be determined by your closest node and should be within pre-defined limits. Bill: After I powered the box down and let it sit for awhile and then powered back up, I was able to hear the audio coming from youtube.com without any problem, as well as audio from streamaudio.com Never was able to hear the local sound test in system-config-soundcard but since it is otherwise working now, I consider this solved. If those ear plugs had a longer cable, they would be perfectThanks. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] Re: Sound with headphones on: Streamaudio perfect but youtube and system-config-soundcard silent
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 09:52 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Bill: After I powered the box down and let it sit for awhile and then powered back up, I was able to hear the audio coming from youtube.com without any problem, as well as audio from streamaudio.com Never was able to hear the local sound test in system-config-soundcard but since it is otherwise working now, I consider this solved. Good. But I would still be curious (being obsessive-compulsive about these things) about why. It's got to be some configuration or mute thing. Oh well, as long as your good. I am also curious about why that does not work. If those ear plugs had a longer cable, they would be perfectThanks. Lanny It used to be Radio Shack was my friend. I've bought jacks that you can assemble yourself (screw-in type available, but I always soldered) and make extension cables. If the extension is not too long, you should not notice any ill-effects. To minimize the increased resistance, I make the extension with a size or two larger wire. I've not detected any distortions associated with the joints or change in wire size over the short lengths I've used. Maybe you have something like the Radio Shack (or any electronics parts house) in Columbia near you? No Radio Shack here that I'm aware of. I will eventually find what I need, to make an extension cable. Those little ear phones are intended for use with cell phones, MP3/MP4 players, on airplanes; so the cables are very short. My daughter has one that cost twice as much and the cable on it is even shorter. Much more comfortable than a headset with a headband. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Sound with headphones on: Streamaudio perfect but youtube and system-config-soundcard silent
This afternoon, I bought a pair of ear plugs (the large flat kind that hook onto my ears). Plugged them in to test and they work perfectly. I'm listening to streamaudio.com as I type this.However, when I tried to watch a youtube.com video (my wife exercise dancing) just silence. She had the same video on to test and the sound was fine on her box. Then, I tried system-config-soundcard and with the volume set at 100%, just silence. Does this have to do with lower voltages coming from youtube.com and system-config-soundcard or is there some other explanation and a cure? TIA ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sound with headphones on: Streamaudio perfect but youtube and system-config-soundcard silent
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: This afternoon, I bought a pair of ear plugs (the large flat kind that hook onto my ears). Plugged them in to test and they work perfectly. I'm listening to streamaudio.com as I type this.However, when I tried to watch a youtube.com video (my wife exercise dancing) just silence. She had the same video on to test and the sound was fine on her box. Then, I tried system-config-soundcard and with the volume set at 100%, just silence. Does this have to do with lower voltages coming from youtube.com and system-config-soundcard or is there some other explanation and a cure? TIA Progress: I shut the box down for awhile and then turned it back on. Now, there's sound from streamaudio.com and youtube.com I'm not sure why cycling power helped, but it did. Still no sound from system-config-soundcard when I try the sound test. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installation Help needed , CentOs on FC9
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Linux student mysubli...@gmail.com wrote: I want to install centos on fc9 machine remotely and i don't want to ask/request datacenter people for installation .Is there any possibility to do this using live CD? yes i am allowed to request datacenter to boot system from LiveCD. I don't think you can install CentOS from the LiveCD. Someone more knowledgeable hopefully can point you to the documentation of how to do a network installation. Can you SSH into the box? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: on 2-4-2009 1:43 PM Frank Cox spake the following: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) Are you sure you need a full discharge/recharge? I have several in my theatre and they have to be inspected and tagged every year by a certified fire extinguisher guy. But they only need replacement or recharge if they don't snip Here we have a service come in and they discharge all of them into a recycling container with a wire mesh strainer inside, clean and check them, then they refill and re-pressurize them with nitrogen. They re-use the powder after it is discharged, so they only have to add a small amount for the loss of what might leak out of the recycler. We have to physically inspect them monthly and sign each ones card, and the fire department spot checks occasionally and fines us if they find any that are missed. The fire extinguishers always work here! What they do where you work, IMHO, is what should be done. I don't think what Frank wrote they do for him, weigh them and put a sticker on, if they appear to be OK, is the way to go. It's like an insurance policy, something you hope never to use, but it should work properly if you need it. Testing is a good plan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: snip I just had a Back-UPS of about 1998 vintage burst into flames about 6 months ago. Luckily, someone was near it and grabbed a fire extinguisher. It was a Saturday, and if this person hadn't been in on overtime, who knows what would have happened. That reinforces my decision not to spend time and $ replacing batteries or repairing our high end (AVR without using the battery) Tripp Lite's. 3 of them are in the garage, to be given away or sent to the dump and have been replaced with low cost non brand name UPS. The other one is still running and when it dies, it will go into the garage. Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) We have since replaced all Consumer grade Back-ups over 2 years old, and set a policy to only do one battery replacement and then get rid of them when the second battery dies. Sounds like an excellent policy. Even a brand new unit might catch fire, as that one did, but more hours of use increase the possibility. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/X11/xorg.conf question
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM, MHR mhullr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: If I use system-config-display or system-config-display --reconfig ::: shown as Nvidia NV11 (GeForce2 MX/MX400). CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) fully updated. TIA! The nvidia driver has a long README file and in my experience it is one of the better manuals for no-cost software. I have *not* found an up to date RPM for the nvidia driver for Centos, The one at rpmforge works just fine, includes dkms support and, although not the latest and greatest, I have not found a compelling reason to use the direct nvidia-supplied driver (which does NOT contain dkms support) instead of the rpmforge driver. Mark: Thank you for that information. Also much appreciated! I will check it out. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/X11/xorg.conf question
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: If I use system-config-display or system-config-display --reconfig although I get a message that I need to log out of GNOME, to have the new file written, for new Display Resolution, logging out or restarting the box does not result in the new settings for the Display taking hold. Sometimes, the number of colors is updated, but *never* the Resolution. Below is my xorg.conf file. What do I need to include in xorg.conf for the resolution to be 1280 x 1024 instead of the current 1600 x 1200? Display is a Dell M991 and the Video Card is shown as Nvidia NV11 (GeForce2 MX/MX400). CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) fully updated. TIA! The nv driver is not very good. From your writeup, it is not apparent if you ever get the resolution you want. If it never works, I suspect you are up against the limitations of nv itself. On my systems, it is really really limited, plus there is no 3D support. If you are willing to use the proprietary (but free of cost) Nvidia driver (http://www.nvidia.com), you will likely be happier. snip Paul: Thank you, for the long and detailed reply! I am going to verify that system-config-display does work properly, on my box (which has integrated Intel video on the mobo), just to be sure the problem is the nv driver. The other box was mine, but it's now my 8 year old daughters. I seem to recall having this problem, before I gave it to her. Probably that was 2 or 3 years ago. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
