Re: [CentOS] Connecting an android tablet to CentOS

2021-09-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:09:34AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:01:29 +
> Richard wrote:
> 
> > [My android device file viewer(s) wouldn't get me into the
> > Kindle data directory.]



There's an app I use. Cx file explorer. It will go into the kindle
directory, and from there, I can delete files. On the rare occasions I put
a book in there--for example, at times, an author makes a free ebook
available, I use jmtpfs. This is on a fairly minimal install with openbox,
I suspect that Gnome's file manager might be able to do it. (I can with
Fedora 34's live Gnome workstation).


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Re: [CentOS] Out of the Office -- Re: Application migration

2021-09-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 02:47:50AM -0700, jacr...@vcu.edu wrote:
> I am currently out of the office, but plan to return to my desk on
> Wednesday at 7am.

Well, they're going to be embarrassed when they get back. 

Ah well, as we said the last time this happened, most of us have done
worse.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-07-07 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 02:18:58PM +0200, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 07/07/2021 à 11:44, Nikolaos Milas a écrit :
> > RESF / Rocky Linux is gaining worldwide recognition and sets itself as the
> > primary organization / platform to become the CentOS 8 heir / successor in 
> > the
> > future.
> 
> Rocky Linux is the New Kid On The Block and gets all the attention.
> 
> Whereas Oracle Linux (the best RHEL clone in terms of maintenance reactivity)
> has been around since 2006, free as in beer since 2012, and nobody wants to
> touch it.
> 
> Go figure.

It's simply that Oracle has such a bad reputation in dealing with Open
source. Many people doubt them, and doubt that they won't change things in
the future if they think they have a good chance at making money from it.  

I think that right now, many are either going to use Rocky or Alma. 
I suspect that over time, one of them, will be far more used than the
other, and become the next CentOS, in the sense that while there were a few
RH clones, almost everyone chose CentOS.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8

2021-04-09 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 11:39:58AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/9/21 11:23 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 12:19, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 12:02, Valeri Galtsev 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > Finally sudo can allow for better RBAC rules where if that is needed you
> > had to have multiple su commands that were aligned to each role so that
> > people could not escape their jail. [My understanding is that this is where
> > your chosen OS shines
> 
> Which one OS would be that?

I suspect that it's because you are known as the FreeBSD user on this
list. :) (I also prefer it, and have been fortunate enough to be at a
FreeBSD shop for yearse now.)  Note that FreeBSD can also use OpenBSD's
doas command, though on FreeBSD, there is no persist option, so one must
type the password each time--which in a production environment isn't
necessary a bad thing. 


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Re: [CentOS] Expand XFS filesystem on CentOS Linux release 8.2.2004 (Core)

2021-03-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 07:05:37PM +0100, Simon Matter wrote:
> > I'm constantly using fdisk on GPT and everything has been fine.
> > Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
> 
> That's only true in recent times, because in the past fdisk didn't support
> GPT at all. Back then you had to use tools like parted.
> 

I've only been playing with GPT and UEFI on CentOS for a little while. I'd
read that fdisk wasn't a good idea, but it turns out that CentOS has gdisk,
which is very similar and cgdisk which is like cfdisk. 

I've been using them with no problem. I did, in a laptop where I was
running several distributions for fun, use gparted to expand a partition,
and that also worked without problem.  


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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 07:05:08PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Feb 6, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> > 
> > I can ask for a generic-enterprise-nix (genix?) list on the CentOS mailman
> > and see if that can take up the traffic for the people who feel that they
> > want and need to talk about alternatives. If that is acceptable then people
> > can subscribe there and talk in detail about other operating systems
> > choices. 
> 
> When wise man gives a solution, I always think: how come this never occurred 
> to me?
> 
> Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new 
> list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.
> 

I just want to add that I, too, think this is a good idea.
There is a Tokyo Linux list that has been around since the 90's I think.
They wound up creating a second list, just for questions that were relevant
to Tokyo, but not to Linux, such as Japanese language questions. It worked
quite well, and is still in use, though that list too has slowed down quite
a bit in recent years.



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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-22 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:39:08PM +, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/01/2021 12:25, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
> 
> 
> > JMNSHO.

Just My Not So Humble Opinion.

I wonder if it's just because I'm old, but I do get tired of acronyms,
especially when people actually say O M G or L O L.


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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:23:24PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 17:15, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> I think from years of posting that FreeBSD is how Valeri's brain works best
> and that is cool. Some people have certain OS paradigms where they function
> best and are able to solve problems better than another system. 

Like Valeri, I have a fondness for FreeBSD. Regardless, I think Nicolas is
correct. I remember reading a post in an old usenet (I think) discussion of
mutt vs. pine (before it became alpine) where someone said words to the
effect of, People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify 
what is, in the end, an emotional decision. 


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 11:31:34PM +, Jamie Burchell wrote:
> Off topic for sure, but it's a shame this has to be a manual process of
> destroying and rebuilding every X years. Even Microsoft has gone the Apple
> way and just perpetually updates Windows 10 now.

I'm not sure how it will go. Fedora now has a very good upgrade tool that
has worked for me through a few versions.  So, hopefully, RH, and CentOS
will have one too, who knows, maybe in time to migrate to Stream-9.


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Re: [CentOS] Disk choice for workstation ?

2020-12-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 05:52:48PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On 12/26/2020 5:10 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> > Le 26/12/2020 à 21:58, Mark Woolfson a écrit :
> > > Don't go for super cheap SSD's as the write threshold will be low. I would
> > > look at Samsung for SSD's for performance or Kioxia (Toshiba) SSD's for
> > > price. As regards the carrier I would look at Sonnet or Highpoint. Bear in
> > > mind that the commercial sweet spot for SSD's is 1 or 2 TByte.
> > Thanks everybody for your feedback.
> > 
> > Is there any data available regarding reliability of SATA vs. SSD ?

I do know that one of our clients (datacenter) was constantly having
failures with OCZ. They replaced them with Samsungs and had far better
reliability. I don't know if OCZ still has issues, for our own, we use
Samsung and they've been pretty good, but they do seem to fail more than
our spinning drives. However, that makes it sound worse than it is, it's
maybe one or two drive failures a year.

For my own personal use, as I have little money, I use Crucial, but that's
for some towers that just get home use, the FreeBSD one using ZFS, and
they've been fine, but that's been home use. So, for the moment, I would
just echo Valeri and say Samsung is the one that my company and I have seen
to be the longest lasting.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:39:38PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > > I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
> > > like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
> > > destination, etc.
> >
> >
> > I'm a ten-finger-typer, and I rarely look at the keyboard. Which is a bad
> > thing
> > when your focus is on the wrong terminal. So a few years ago I happened to
> > type
> > "ssh r...@some-remote-server.com   ", vaguely
> > sensed in the corner of my eye that something was wrong and discovered to
> > my
> > horror that I just posted it on a densely populated IRC channel.

That's a popular one. There's even an instance of it on bash.org, though in
that case, they fooled a new comer into thinking that everone saw his
password as . 


> >
> 2 am clean up of disk space to get email servers working again
> discover a large tree of temp files from a shared service in /usr/ name> # remember before /home?
> /bin/rm -rf . /*
> ^c
> up-arrow
> spew coffee and swearing
> go get reinstall cdrom and backup tapes

Yup that has to count as mine. We had a FreeBSD server and back in older
days, you used to do rm -rf /usr/obj before doing a buildworld. The
sequence was cd /usr/obj;chflags noschg *, rm -rf * then cd /usr/src and
start the build. (I may have that slightly wrong, but that's the idea).  

So in my case, I did that, and thought, Hrrm, that's taking a long time to
remove obj.  Then when I got my command prompt back, I did the usual cd
/usr/src and saw directory not found. Hrm, thinks I, that's odd. cd /usr

ls (shows . and ..) I'd removed the entire /usr directory, and I was fairly
new. Fortunately, it was a freshly installed server, I was new to IT and my
boss had a sense of humor about it, and even tried to make me feel better
by telling me similar stories. That was around 19 years ago, so I laugh
now, but sure wasn't laughing then. 


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 09:59:36AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100
> Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> 
> > Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office 
> > repliers
> > on public mailing lists ?
> 
> You can't. He's out of the office.

Of course it's annoying, but we've made far more posts about it than their
out of office post made. :)

And they'll be punished enough when they come back and see it, and think,
Oh no, made me look like a total neWb or however the young folks spell it
these days.

I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
destination, etc. That's why I like where I work. The owners on down are
technical people, and when one does something completely stupid, everyone
knows that stuff happens. 


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Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:00:24AM -0700, James Szinger wrote:
> > 
> > Using Fedora on production servers is like climbing without a rope.
> > 
> > It's possible. I've even seen some folks do it.
> 
> Since the release of CentOS 8, I have been moving my stuff over to
> Fedora.  The combination of modularity and missing -devel packages
> make developing and building software on EL8 impractical.  As a
> result, EL8 is poor choice for deploying custom software.
> 
While I don't use Fedora as a production server, I will say that ever since
Adam Williamson joined them, the QA has been quite good. I used to worry
about an update breaking things. Now I use it as my go to Linux on laptops,
and have successfully upgraded, using their instructions for CLI updates,
with no problems. 

I do use openbox and dwm (which I install from source) rather than Gnome,
which  might have something to do with my painless updates.

Not to say it's a good server OS (though not saying it isn't, I don't have
enough knowledge of it in that situation to say), but it's not the always
on the edge of breaking that it used to be.

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Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:11:58PM +0200, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
> On 13/12/2020 9:44 μ.μ., Simon Avery wrote:
> 
> > There are 4,606 people on their Slack right now
> 
> ...which, by the way, is being acquired by SalesForce!
> 
> Find a successor of Slack! 

OT excuse to rant, because I get so mad at this.

Remember when slack first came out, and said, Oh, we're gonna be compatible
with your irc stuff.  At that point, you could use it with irssi and
weechat. Then they changed it, you could still sorta use it with irssi, but
it was cumbersome. Thank goodness, someone made a plugin to work for
weechat which still works at the moment, though, as they've done something
to tokens, it's harder than it used to be, and no doubt, they'll eventually
eliminate it so that you have to use the slow, high resource, web app. 

Talk about embrace, engulf, extinguish, they are a role model for it.

OK, sorry. But, I feel so much better now.

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Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:09:46PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:


> > One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one never
> > knows.  
> 
> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to
> trust them.

Yes, that's who I meant. And like you, I find myself unwilling to trust
them.  :)

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Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote:
> > +1
> > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options.
> > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this...
> 
> True. I just hope that the various alternatives will pool their resources. 
> History has shown that RHEL derivatives require a lot of effort to maintain. 
> It would be a shame to dissipate that effort among a number of competing 
> distros.

One problem has been that RedHat, when they see a clone is successful, will
tend to hire the lead developer. This is what happened to Scientific Linux,
back when CentOS was late with a release (one of the head developers had
the temerity to get married around that time and somehow, that took some of
his time).  Scientific Linux was gaining popularity and RH hired their head
developer. This was before RH was bought by IBM.

One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one never
knows.  


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Re: [CentOS] Missing intel/sof/sof-cml.ri for CentOS 8.3

2020-12-09 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:43:53PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Report from ElRepo guys is that every single driver they maintain is
> broken between 8.2 and 8.3, there was change i kABI.
> 
> Contact ElRepo for help/explanation or report a bug in CentOS bugzila.

I have to say that at least for me, so, far, after converting to Stream,
and then doing what seems to be a large update, ElRepo's NVidia driver is
working for me. I don't know if I'm lucky, or if this is going to echo the
experience for most people.


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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

2020-12-09 Thread Scott Robbins
> 
> Am 08.12.20 um 19:20 schrieb Alan Mead:
> > On 12/8/2020 11:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > > I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17
> > > more.  But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not
> > > going to happen.  I know .. I've tried.
> > 
> > We owe everyone who worked on CentOS a big thank you.

Yes, we do. Let's not forget that. 
> > I shudder to imagine a world where Oracle Linux replaces CentOS.
> 
Who knows? Amazon may see this as another opportunity and in 5
years Amazon Linux will be the standard. Or Ubuntu, with its use of ZFS
rather than playing again with btrfs--RH dropped that, but now it's the
default in Fedora, so it may make a reappearance.

It had a good long run. Or maybe stream's differences will be minimal, and
almost nothing will change.  

Regardless, let's not forget that we *do* owe everyone who worked on CentOS
lots of thanks.  (Though my current job is a FreeBSD shop, we have some
things on CentOS that have packages for Linux but not FreeBSD.)

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Re: [CentOS] Problems with x2go

2020-09-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 08:45:01PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > It is “free” only for noncommercial use. It isn’t open source.
> > 
> > https://www.nomachine.com/faq
> > 
> > If you want to try something else, take a look at xpra (http://xpra.org/).  
> > It’s in EPEL8.
> > 

I have a somewhat dated page on x2go and xpra. It was made when nomachine
updated their client (I was just using it for home use) and I didn't like
the changes they had made.

I haven't kept it up to date, especially the xpra part, but it does give a
quick start.

http://srobb.net/nxreplace.html

(It was written around CentOS 6.x time).  I still use x2goclient on a
FreeBSD workstation to get to a CentOS-8.x server.


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Re: [CentOS] C8 - Register with Red Hat

2020-08-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 03:48:31PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:37:20 -0500
> Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> > "This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can 
> > use
> > subscription-manager to register."
> 
> It sounds like you have something installed that doesn't need to be or 
> shouldn't be installed.   Under what circumstances does that message appear?  
> I haven't seen it on any of my C8 systems, so far at least.
> 

Judging from https://forums.centos.org/viewtopic.php?f=54=74855
it looks like subscription manager.  Judging from that thread, though
removing it seems to remove some other things that you might want. 

I'd google for more on removing subscription manager. I don't know what
installs it.



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Re: [CentOS] virtualbox

2020-07-23 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 04:49:39PM -0500, Chuck Campbell wrote:
> Has anyone gotten virtualbox to run on Centos8? I did the install, and it
> complained about missing elflibs, so I installed those, and the virtualbox
> install finished without any reported problems.
> 
> 
> when i try to run virtualbox, it fails with this message:
> 
> Qt FATAL: This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin
> could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
> 
> Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl,
> offscreen, vnc, xcb.
> 
> Aborted (core dumped)
> 
> 
> I tried doing dnf reinstall vbox stuff, again, no reported problems, but I
> get the same result.
> 
Version 6.1 is running without problem for me.  I download the rpm from
virtualbox.org.  I usually remove the old one before installing. Don't know
if any of that helps.

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Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > About Oracle as alternative. Oracle Linux is not an alternative to 
> > CentOS but for RHEL and if I will force to pay for enteprise system 
> > currently I will pay RHEL, not OL. Over this, OL is not the only 
> > enterprise distro that a "user" could choose. If support is needed there 
> > are SUSE (SLES) and Ubuntu. For who that don't need support there are 
> > Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE (I'm talking about the most used but you know 
> > that slackware,FreeBSD are in that list), so many alternatives are in place.
> 
> I think it's particularly disappointing *if* this is a "policy" from RH
> since the other major RHEL clone, Scientific Linux, has not produced an
> EL8 offering in favour of using CentOS.

Keep in mind that as soon as Scientific Linux started taking off, IIRC,
because CentOS was late with a release, RH quickly hired its main
developer.  I don't think we can really expect RH to act differently than
most corporations. 

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade from Centos 7 to Centos 8

2020-04-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 05:50:44PM +0200, Stefano Simonucci wrote:
> > I followed the directions found on the web (by installing dnf and so on),
> > but when I tried to install centos-release I get
> 
> Unfortunately, there are a lot of web sites out there with bad
> information.
> 
> There's no support for updating from C7 to C8.  It's likely to result
> in a broken system even if you are careful and know what you're
> doing.  

I would also keep in mind, depending upon your use of C7, that a lot of
packages have not yet been created for CentOS-8. I had to build several
from srpms (some from older Fedora ones, like F28 and F30) and some from
C7 srpms.  (By the way, if anyone made an rpm for C8 for weechat, please
send me a direct email, I've been unable to get a version that works with
weechat's python support).

Anyway, figure out your essential programs and make sure they're available
in CentOS-8. You will almost certainly want to enable the EPEL-testing repo
as well as a few others (such as rpmfusion if you're using any multimedia
stuff). 

If you're using it as a basic server without X, you're probably alright.

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to CentOS8

2020-03-29 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 03:31:02PM +0200, Patrick DERWAEL wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't have the infra (nor the knowledge or expertise) to create a
> > LiveCD
> > > I didn't think about Fedora. This is indeed a good pointer, I will
> > > definitely try that
> > > Actually, I'm not too worried about the basics, but rather about the
> > wifi,
> > > audio & video drivers (one of the boxes is a multimedia system)

You might be able to test it all from the install CD. Once you've begun the
install alt+F2 (sometimes ctl+alt+F2) will give you a shell. Also, setting
up the network should tell you if the wireless works.  (Though, for
example, in an F31 install, wireless worked during installation, but after
first boot, I had to connect through ethernet and download the drivers, but
at least you should be able to see if it works during installation. 

Depending upon what you choose to install when you pick software, you may
have to download some drivers after install.

Hope this is of some use. If not, apologies.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 Questions

2019-11-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 05:12:23PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've several questions about C8. I'm using 8 on my personal NAS and works
> very well. I'm running several VMs with centos 8 and noticed something:
> 
> 1) Why corosync, pacemaker and pcs are missing on C8? They are only
> available on rhel with payments( rhel ha addons)?
> 2) Why there is only Gnome as available DE? I use centos on my workstation
> and I'm a kde-plasma user. XFCE is ok but not gnome. I tried fedora, it has
> all software that I need and it is a very good distro but I don't like too

Many things are available in the epel-testing repo. Even though it's marked
testing, many packages (such as openbox and rxvt-unicode are quite stable.
I would guess XFCE is available there but as I don't use it, I haven't
looked.




> much update and its EOL (upgrade/reinstall every 13 months on a workstation
> is not so good for me). I don't want to be forced to install another stable
> distro like debian (This not means that debian is bad but I prefer centos).
> 3) I have a VM with C8 installed. I got several updates but I don't receive
> any update for 8 on centos-announce like for previous versions (6 & 7).
> Something has changed?


> 4) EPEL. I know that EPEL is a Fedora SIG but I use several packages from
> EPEL. There is a place to see what packages will be included in EPEL? For
> example, I tried to install audacious from epel but got errors for missing
> deps. Seems that EPEL8 is released but not ready. There is a ETA for this?

Again, right now, it seems that many packages are still in epel-testing.
My guess (no knowledge, just a guess) is that as CentOS-8 is relatively
new, a lot of packages still have to be made and testing.

> 5) It's my impression or there are less packages in this release?

See above.


> 6) Why cockpit installed by default?
> 7) Why repo PowerTools was created? What is the main purpose?

This is part of rpmfusion, I think.  I know that when enabling rpmfusion,
CentOS users are told to also enable powertools. In the past, Nux provided
a repo for multimedia stuff, but has run out of time and can not maintain
it for CentOS-8. Therefore, one can use rpmfusion (and powertools) for
multimedia needs.



> 8) Why NetworkManager is the default method to configure interfaces? I know
> that I can install network-scripts but I don't understand this change.

My snarky opinion is that this is what happens when single user laptop
users develop  a server O/S. You can disable it, or use nmcli (which is
like NM though, I usually disable it, though the way RH works, I imagine
that sooner or later it will be impossible to disable it and still have a
network.

I only gave my answers to some questions, I don't know the answers to the
others.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 and DELL 7540 Intel AX200 WIFI

2019-10-26 Thread Scott Robbins
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 6:50 PM David Summers 
> > wrote:
> > > .
> >
> > > 70:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2723]
> > > (rev 1a)
> > >
> > > I believe the Intel AX200 Wifi card is the device 8086:2723 (rev1a) entry.
> > >
> > > Is there something I can do to enable it or is this a bug I need to file
> > > with RedHat?
I would file the bug even if you get it working.  Otherwise, as it stands
RH is saying get this machine, it works, and it doesn't.  

There do seem to be workarounds, such as a newer kernel or the stream
kernel, and I don't know how close CentOS-8 is to RH-8, but as it is, if
was running CentOS-8 I'd expect it to work out of the box and it doesn't.

So, for the sake of the next person with $1200 to spend on a laptop, tell
them. Maybe someone will save the money and spend it on something that
actually does work out of the box.

(overly fed up with manufactures putting out incorrect compatibility lists,
and will definitely feel silly if someone says, naw, worked out of the box
for me with RH-8)


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Re: [CentOS] mplayer or vlc?

2019-10-20 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:39:58PM +0200, Georgios wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 13:54 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > 
> > way to keep applications that aren't well packaged isolated from the 
> > applications that are.
> > 
> 
> That's an excellent reason!
> (Beside using newer applications etc)


I think these days many people use mpv (including myself)


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:48:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > to change meaning, I trim in an effort to make it easier for others to read
> > stuff.  So if it was me, feel free to chastize me either publicly or
> > privately
> 
> I will not: I did receive so many great advises from you, so I'm in such
> debt, I will never be able to re-pay. Only by trying to help others when I
> can following what you do.
> 
> Thanks a lot for everything!


And the above is my typical trimming. I'm glad that my feeble brain has
been able to help at times. :)


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:42:22AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with 
> >>>> computer,
> >>>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want 
> >>>> to
> >>>> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use
> >>>> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and
> >>>> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).
> > 
> 
> Guys, I corrected myself: I meant Mate desktop above (related to somebody’s 
> list of reasons why he needs Desktop environment - DE - he needs). However, 
> someone’s creative editing threw away context, namely that what I said was 
> related to DE descussion.

If I was the creative editor I most sincerely apologize. It wasn't my aim
to change meaning, I trim in an effort to make it easier for others to read
stuff.  So if it was me, feel free to chastize me either publicly or
privately and please accept my apologie.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> > > And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with 
> > > computer,
> > > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want 
> > > to
> > > blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use
> > > Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and
> > > straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).

Another (these days neo) mutt lover. I'll take this time to spam my own
http://srobb.net/mutt.html page.

Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password
used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file,
it will also work but require the password.  

set smtp_url="smtp://sc...@gmail.com@smtp.gmail.com:587"
set smtp_pass="scottisawesome"
set ssl_starttls=yes

I feel that everyone should use scottisawesome as their password though
some foolish people disagree.  But (I am not 100% sure) it seems that those
3 lines were all I needed back when I did it that way (Nowadays I have a
slightly more complex setup as I have too many email accounts like everyone
else in the world).

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Re: [CentOS] Bypassing 'A stop job is running' when rebooting CentOS 7

2019-05-22 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 03:41:24PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:07:32AM -0600, James Szinger wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:44 AM mark  wrote:
> > >
> > > The joys of systemd
> > 
> > I'm not sure it's right to blame systemd.  Systemd asked nicely for
> > the service to shutdown.  
> 
> But we can blame systemd for the cryptic message
> 
>   A stop job is running

I didn't read this thread all that carefully, but has anyone mentioned
editing /etc/systemd/system.conf and changing DefaultTimeoutStartSec and
DefaultTimeoutStopSec to a lower value? 

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Re: [CentOS] OT: android phone backup NOT to google cloud question

2019-05-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:21:34AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> My apologies for OT question.
> 
> I wonder if someone of Android smartphone owners backs up their device and
> user/application data NOT to google cloud.

I'm not sure if you would get all data, but wouldn't something like
mounting the phone with simple-mtpfs and then rsyncing it to a directory
on your machine (then moving it elsewhere if desired) serve the purpose.
Actually, I think even if you back it all up to the cloud, if you have to
restore, there will always be something missing. 

For example, I recently got a phone running Android 9 and though it had
copied some custom ringtones, it didn't see them. I had to re-encode them
specifying a bitrate to get it working.

Whether Apple or Google, they seem to make it harder to keep control over
your device with each iteration. I think it was Corey Doctorow who once
wrote something like, No one ever woke up and said, Gee I hope there's an
iTunes update that will let me do less with my device.

But I digress. Assuming this is all data which can be seen by a computer,
something like simple-mtpfs would let you copy it all to your hard drive.

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Re: [CentOS] Accessing Android phones on CentOS 7

2019-04-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 05:48:14PM +0200, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm currently busy sanding down a few remaining edges, and one thing
> that's left is accessing Android phones. On less conservative distros
> based on KDE Plasma 5, this is a no-brainer, since all you have to do is
> plug in the phone and then browse its content using Dolphin or some
> other file manager. Unfortunately this is not possible with the version
> of KDE shipping with CentOS 7.

I'm not sure about a GUI file browser, but using simple-mtpfs works fine
for me.  With sudo, plug the phone in, and then simple-mtpfs /mnt (assuming
nothing else is under /mnt), causes a message to appear on the phone, do I
wish to allow it, I tap allow, then run the command again, and the phone's
files appear under mount.  It's not something I do too often, so I don't
bother with a directory special directory to mount the phone or worry about
getting it done as normal user, but simple-mtpfs works well for my limited
needs.


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Re: [CentOS] You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 01:26:15PM -0500, rj coleman wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Dec 24, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Alice Wonder  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 12/24/18 7:21 AM, vsnsdua...@memeware.net wrote:
> >> Debian is not ruled by the men who actually write the software, but 
> >> instead women.
> > 
> > *snip*
> > 




> > Can we please ban the person who sent that disgusting rant to the list


I was under the impression that it was sarcasm.  Whenever something gets
posted a or a code of conduct that comes down to don't be a jerk is
adapted, there's lots of people who feel their right to be jerks has been
infringed.  I could easily be wrong but I thought that post was making a
about why such codes of conduct become necessary.

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Re: [CentOS] email Server for CentOS 7

2018-10-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:54:01AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Monday, October 01, 2018 6:37 PM +0200 Peter Eckel 
> wrote:
> 
> > I fully agree with most of the former, except for the Google part. Google
> > is to privacy what a shark pool is to a carp. If possible, avoid Google
> > at all cost, and particularly for E-Mail. There are services around that
> > cost a very small amount of money (e.g. mailbox.org or posteo.de),
> > provide a very reasonable service and do *not* peek into your mail for
> > advertisement targets and sell your data to their customers.
> 
> Fastmail looks attractive to me as it's IMAP-friendly. I run my own server
> but I'm recommending to my family that they move their accounts there if I
> "get hit by a bus".

We migrated over 100 users to fastmail with almost no complaints.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos on Dell XPS15

2018-09-24 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:56:00AM -0400, H wrote:
> On 09/24/2018 01:00 AM, anax wrote:
> >
> >
> >> After installing Centos 7 on this machine - and the MATE desktop - I have 
> >> the following issues:
> >>
> >> - When the machine boots and asks for the password to decrypt the 
> >> password, the text is minuscule, really minuscule... Can this be changed 
> >> somewhere?
> >>


I have a page on the yoga2, with a hi-res screen that has some possible
solutions. You might be able to add nomodeset to the kernel line to better
view font in console. You can pick a font in /etc/vconsole.conf. 

If it helps it's at http://srobb.net/yoga2.html. In addition, the Arch wiki
has pages about using a hires screen. 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI



> >> - When it continues booting, the Centos boot animation is displayed in 
> >> roughly the top-left 1/8 of the screen. Can this be changed somewhere so 
> >> it uses the entire screen as is customary?
> >>
> >> - I see no option to hibernate the machine, only to suspend. Did I have to 
> >> do anything special to make hibernation possible when installing Centos 7? 
> >> The machine has 16 Gb of memory and the swap space was automatically set 
> >> to 8 Gb.
> >>
> >> - The 4K desktop is unusable because the font, icons etc. are too small. 
> >> Since I have not yet figured out how to increase font size etc. when in 4K 
> >> mode, I changed display resolution to 1600 x 1200. This is only a stop-gap 
> >> measure though and I hope there is a better solution.
> >>

Perhaps either my page, or more likely.  the Arch Wiki article may
help. 


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Re: [CentOS] About the membership issue

2018-06-16 Thread Scott Robbins via CentOS
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 05:58:11AM -0500, Johnny Hughes via CentOS wrote:
> On 06/16/2018 05:42 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:
> WRT the action taken .. we have used the Munge option from here (for
> versions 2.1.18 or greater):
> 
> https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC
> 
> 
> I still see 'reply to list' as an option and it works the same for ne in
> Thunderbird (If I reply directly to he mail, it does to original author,
> if I reply to list, it goes to the list).
> 
> 
> If your {all of us 'yous', not just Leon :) } mail client has a  reply
> to list function, you will want to use that to send replies to the list.
> 
For neomutt, if I hit reply, it asks if I wish to reply to the sender. If I
do, it sends a copy to you and the list. If I hit n for no, it then asks
reply to Johnny Hughes (for this email, obviously) vid CentOS
 and just sends the reply to the list.
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Re: [CentOS] formating DVR-RW

2018-04-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 11:07:58AM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:30:46AM -0500, Bill Gee wrote:
> > 
> > It is possible that the optical drive in your computer does not support 
> > DVD-RW 
> > media.  The only way I know of to find what media are supported is to use 
> > K3B.  
> > If you go to Settings - Devices, you should get a list of readable and 
> > writable media for each device.
> > 
> > Bill Gee
> 
> potentially stupid question here: Why would one format a cd/dvd?
> I've never had to do that, I just write to 'em.
> 
> for what purpose or need would one format one?

If you have a rewriteable one.  I am assuming (and we all know what that
means :) ) that the OP has such a disk.  

Otherwise, I can't think of another use case where one would format an
unused drive, but there may be one.

 


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Re: [CentOS] Web site not responding with Firefox 52.6.0 (64-bit)

2018-03-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 02:04:07AM +, Richard wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   503 - Service Offline
>   Slashdot is presently in offline mode. Only the front page
>   and story pages linked from the front page are available in
>   this mode. Please try again later.
> 
> whether using Chrome or FF 52.6.0 or the current beta 59.0b14. 


I believe I saw somewhere that slashdot is having issues at present.  

Ah, googling slashdot having issues brings me this.

We've been having site performance/uptime issues including a DDOS earlier
in the week (Slashdotted?). DevOps working round the clock until we're back
at full capacity. No ETA but hopeful for sometime Saturday. Rumors of our
demise are greatly exaggerated. Thanks for your patience 

that was from their twitter page.

https://twitter.com/slashdot?lang=e

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Re: [CentOS] 1600x900 not available

2018-01-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 01:34:00PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Sean Smith wrote:
> 
> > setting my resolution to 1600x900 is a cheesy, yet effective, way to do
> > get what I need.
> >
> > ...Now if I can just get my touchpad to FRICK'N disable while typing.
> >
> If/when you do, *PLEASE* post the solution. If you're a manager, or gamer,
You can install xorg-x11-drv-synaptics which includes syndaemon.

Then you can type syndaemon -d which usually is sufficient. There are more
specific ways to use it.


ftp://www.x.org/pub/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/syndaemon.1.html


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Re: [CentOS] 1600x900 not available

2018-01-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 09:25:04AM -0600, Sean Smith wrote:
> I have no idea how.  All I can find is the Hi-DPi settings in Gnome-Tweak
> but, of course, it only lets  me choose to scale from "1" to "2" which
> makes things way too big.
> 

It's better to not top post if possible.  :)  

There is an xrandr scale command as well. If for example, your output is
eDP1 then 
xrandr --output eDP1 --scale .8x.8  

The smaller the scaling, the larger the size, so I think that .5x.5 would
be what the tweak tool is offering.

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Re: [CentOS] 1600x900 not available

2018-01-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 08:43:08AM -0600, Sean Smith wrote:
> My laptop is a Dell XPS-13 running CentOS 7.  It has a 13" 1920x1080
> screen and it's a bit difficult for my mid-40s eyesight.  Fedora and
> Debian, on this laptop, give me the option of choosing 1600x900 which is
> much easier for me to read but CentOS doesn't show this resolution as
> available.
> 
> I followed the steps I found in a post on stackexchange using xrandr,
> substituting 1600x900 where applicable and it worked but, once I
> rebooted, it went back to 1920x1080 with no 1600x900 option in
> settings-display.

You can put the xrandr command in your .xinitrc if you boot into text mode.
I'm sure there's a place to put it for booting into GUI mode as well,
though I'm not sure of the location.

You can also play around with .Xdefaults--sometimes, setting dpi can help.
For example, my yoga2 has, in .Xdefaults

Xft.dpi:192

Which increases font size.  

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Re: [CentOS] Failed attempts

2017-11-28 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:04:14AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Tue, November 28, 2017 9:21 am, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On 11/27/2017 02:02 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >> Pete Biggs wrote:


> >>>- don't run ssh on 22, use a different port.
> >> I consider that pointless security-through-obscurity.
> > Security through obscurity it may be, but it isn't pointless. Tarpits
> are in a similar class; they don't help with security in the absolute
> sense, but they slow the attacker down, and that might be enough to
> prevent the attack from continuing. 

There's the old saying to the effect that if you're a gazelle being chased
by a lion, you don't have to be the fastest in the herd, just faster than
the one running next to you. ;)


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Re: [CentOS] Semi-OT: hardware: NVidia proprietary driver, C7.4

2017-09-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:40:54PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> This is really frustrating. I've got a server with two K20c Tesla cards. I
> need to use the proprietary drivers to use the CUDA toolkit. Btw, I had no
> trouble at all with building for CentOS 7.3
> 
> I have what NVidia claims is the correct driver package, a 340 series. It
> appears to build, but then fails to load. The only error I see is "no such
> device", which makes no sense to me, esp. since it says nothing whatever
> else.

Why not use the elrepo repo? They've worked flawlessly for me, both with
legacy and new cards.



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Re: [CentOS] [Slightly OT] Use CentOS to create a bootable Mac OS X DVD from dmg file?

2017-09-23 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 02:23:00PM +0200, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry if this is only half-CentOS-related.
> 
> In my office, I'm running CentOS on all my systems (server, workstation,
> laptop, sandbox PCs). A colleague brought me her MacBook Pro to upgrade
> it from OS X 10.5.7 to 10.11.6.
> 
> I downloaded the 5.8 GB dmg file and now I wonder how to create a
> bootable DVD with this using only Linux tools.
> 
> 1. Can I simply burn this as a data DVD with K3B?
> 
> 2. Or do I have to jump through burning loops using dmg2img, mount -t
> hfsplus, etc.
> 
> I only have a couple of double layer DVDs here, so before burning a pair
> of expensive coasters, I thought I'd rather ask here.

I've done this a few times. I used acertoneiso and/or poweris.

At the time I wrote something on it, I was running CentOS-6x which didn't
work acertone.  But I can't guarantee you won't get coasters. 

The notes are at http://srobb.net/dvds.html/#OSX

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Re: [CentOS] prevent users from fiddling with network?

2017-09-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 07:00:12PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, September 21, 2017 6:13 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 05:23:23PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Well, this is my longstanding rant against RedHat and friends.  Take a
> > look
> > at what Fedora is doing before blithely throwing it into RedHat.
> >>
> > Most Fedora stuff is for single user laptops, and frankly, a lot of it
> > seems developed by people with no concept of system administration.

> Well, I guess we see Microsoft money invested into ("donated" to? ;-)
> RedHat at work. Yes, my servers are FreeBSD for long time already, but as
> we have to use Linux for wide variety of stuff, we may need to start
> looking which other distribution (better from sysadmin's prospective) to
> flee to. Scott, I'd be glad to hear your advise on that matter. (As CentOS
> public mirror maintainer I will keep maintaining that indefinitely as a
> token of gratitude to the project that gave us so much over long time).

Unfortunately, no advice.  I haven't used Debian as anything but a laptop
install for a long time, but their developers did, in the past, seem to
have better ideas of system administration. They have their own issues, of
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Re: [CentOS] prevent users from fiddling with network?

2017-09-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 05:23:23PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, September 21, 2017 12:42 pm, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >> Than was my first reaction when I realized that logged in with GUI (X11)
> 
> Yes, I can understand the rationale as above - if it is somebody's laptop.
> Or someone's home computer. But it is arguable if it is centrally managed
> workstation. This ability to screw settings up is a pain for sysadmin if
> this workstation sits on common area (like library) and multiple users can
> access that, and even if it is workstation that is basically a single user
> one, but has to be managed centrally. I rest my case. Basically, all _I_
> said on this sidetracked thread should be treated as enclosed into "rant"
> tags ;-)

Well, this is my longstanding rant against RedHat and friends.  Take a look
at what Fedora is doing before blithely throwing it into RedHat. 
> 
Most Fedora stuff is for single user laptops, and frankly, a lot of it
seems developed by people with no concept of system administration.
Things like this.  One bug, back when I cared enough to file bug reports
(at a FreeBSD shop these days, so it affects me less) was when had pkg kit
or some other GUI allow any user to install and update any package without
authorization.

Too many things to make things easy for the less experienced user, which
makes sense for Fedora, get put into RedHat, and they shouldn't.

I wish there were a bit more competition for commercial Linux for RedHat
here in the US so that they'd have to pay more attention to their user
base.

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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 02:49:16PM -0400, H wrote:
> On 08/05/2017 02:45 PM, H wrote:
> > On 08/05/2017 12:10 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > 
> I am pleased to report that I now have fcitx working in terminal windows, 
> geany, firefox, thunderbird and LibreOffice, i.e., my main apps. I am now 
> able to switch between two western keyboards and pinyin.
> 
Great, glad to hear it.  Thanks for following up. ;)


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Re: [CentOS] What replaces the "grub" command

2017-08-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 09:01:30AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> I recently had a failing disk replaced in my colo server. The server
> is running Centos 7.3.
> 
> After the replacement, I was following these instructions to rebuild
> the RAID array that the disk was part of.
> 
> https://help.1and1.co.uk/servers-c40665/dedicated-server-linux-c40577/rescue-and-recovery-c40581/rebuild-the-software-raid-array-after-a-drive-replacement-a729756.html
> 
> Everything went fine until I reached the final section ("Grub Setup").
> This section talks about running a command line program called "grub"
> to change the Grub configuration. And that program doesn't seem to be
> installed on this server.
> 

grub2 install /dev/sda
grub2 install /dev/sdb

should do it, assuming the two actual physical disks are seen as
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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-05 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 12:03:43PM -0400, H wrote:
> > - I just discovered all of this also works well in a note-type field in 
> > KeePassX BUT
> > 
> > - none of it works in firefox, thunderbird, libreoffice or geany
> > 
> > My setup is thus partly correct and I draw the conclusion that KeePassX is 
> > compiled using a different window library than the other four applications?
> > 
> > Can anyone shed light on this?
> > 
> Seems geany uses Qt and the other four use GTK libraries. My problem is 
> likely related to this, have to search for setup issues related to GTK.
> 

It might be worth creating a new user and seeing if it works for said user.

I don't know if you mentioned what desktop you use, but it might also be
worth, with said new user, trying openbox (available from EPEL) or some
other less intrusive desk environment to see if there's something Gnome is
doing.

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Re: [CentOS] Light-weight window manager, recommendations

2017-08-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 05:32:39PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> So, I've mentioned that I've got an original netbook, circa 2009, and I'm
> going to put CentOS on it. 32 bit. Not huge disk, old Atom processor, not
> tons of memory. Any recommendations for a light-weight window manager?
> 
> Before I went to KDE, I used fvwm2, and all I'm going to do is use it to
> read webmail and browse, read news, etc, so I don't need a lot.

The dwm manager is one of the lightest ones around.
I have a page on it with links to better pages.

http://srobb.net/dwm.html

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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 08:15:58PM -0400, H wrote:


> On 08/02/2017 09:46 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:37:06AM -0400, H wrote:
> > > > Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have,
> > > > above the line calling the window manager
> > > > 
> > > > export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
> > > I suspect there may be some configuration setting I have missed but since 
> > > there is no graphical configuration utility it's hard to figure out what 
> > > might be wrong by just looking at the several configuration text files.
> > What about, from terminal, doing something like
> > XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5 GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx firefox
> > 
> > (the zh_TW.Big5 is just a guess, one that I saw googling lc_ctype for
> > Chinese.).
> > These are just guesses on my part. I've not had a similar issue, save for
> > the firefox thing on FreeBSD that I mentioned.
> > 
> Interesting, that seems to work! Will check it out more tomorrow. However, it 
> seemed to work only for firefox (that you have on the command line), it did 
> not work for thunderbird or geany.
> 
> The Big5 is likely not correct but I will check tomorrow.
> 
> Thought: I do have XMODIFIERS and GTK_IM_MODULE set in .bashrc:
> 
> export GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx
> export QT_IM_MODULE=fcitx
> export XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx

In the FreeBSD install where this was an issue in firefox, I had them in
.bash_profile, I think.  Or maybe .bashrc.  :) I don't remember.  But the
only thing I remember being an issues was Firefox, and the only variable I
had to add at the time was changing LC_CTYPE from English to Japanese.

> 
> I guess that these settings in .bashrc are picked up by the terminal only and 
> not by GUI applications?? If so, there is maybe another file I need to add 
> them to?

Try .bash_profile, (and then log out and log in.)

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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:37:06AM -0400, H wrote:
> >
> >Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have,
> >above the line calling the window manager
> >
> >export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
> >
> >Do you have fcitx-gtk2 and fcitx-gtk3 installed?
> >I repeat, I'm not an expert on this, my skill is in googling and finding
> >out how others got it done, then just copying that and summarizing it. :)
> >
> >
> Thank you, tried that but no difference. I have temporarily deactivated 
> Chinese and am just trying to switch between two western languages. Again, 
> this works fine in a terminal session but not in any GUI program I tried, 
> including firefox, thunderbird, geany.
> 
> I do have both fcitx-gtk2 and fcitx-gtk3 installed.
> 
> I suspect there may be some configuration setting I have missed but since 
> there is no graphical configuration utility it's hard to figure out what 
> might be wrong by just looking at the several configuration text files.

What about, from terminal, doing something like
XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5 GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx firefox

(the zh_TW.Big5 is just a guess, one that I saw googling lc_ctype for
Chinese.). 
These are just guesses on my part. I've not had a similar issue, save for
the firefox thing on FreeBSD that I mentioned.

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Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 01:18:39PM +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, hw wrote:
> 
> > That?s what I thought, and it may still be true.  Unfortunately, feedback,
> > bug reports and even fixes and improvements experience so much unkindness
> > or ignorance in their reception that I?m better off finding a different
> > solution or fixing the bug myself, with very few exceptions.

I have to say that hasn't been my experience.  I've found that while some
requests do get overlooked, most get a response, and even if they disagree
with my logic (for example, the infamous packagekit allowing any user to
upgrade an installed package), I usually get a civil explanation.

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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-08-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 08:55:22PM -0400, H wrote:
> 
> Scott, I am back at this again. I am able to switch between Chinese and two 
> western languages in terminal sessions but not in GUI applications such as 
> LO, Thunderbird, Firefox... Only the default language works in these GUI 
> applications.
> 
> What setting in fcitx might I be missing?

Well, I'm not the expert, especially at Chinese.  
I do remember in an older version of FreeBSD, to get it to work in firefox,
I would use
LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 firefox

from a terminal, and it would then work. I never figured out why (it worked
with other GTK apps such as libreoffice.  Hrrm, I don't think I tried in
Thunderbird.

Ah, also, in my .xinitrc (I boot into text mode then run startx I have,
above the line calling the window manager

export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 

Do you have fcitx-gtk2 and fcitx-gtk3 installed?
I repeat, I'm not an expert on this, my skill is in googling and finding
out how others got it done, then just copying that and summarizing it. :)


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Re: [CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-07-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:06:25PM -0400, H wrote:
> On 07/20/2017 05:49 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:


> > assignee's free time), but anyone who would like to add their support to
> > the request can view the bug at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1471924
> 
> And I filed a request for the fcitx-config-gkt2/gtk3 tools to be compiled.

Which would also be useful, especially as fcitx-pinyan is already
available.
I prefer the manual way because I've gotten so used to it, but suspect the
vast majority who want to use it as a desktop would much prefer the gui
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[CentOS] fcitx-anthy request (for Japanese users)

2017-07-20 Thread Scott Robbins
Apropos of the discussion this week with the person trying to get Chinese
input going on CentOS, I filed a request for enhancement with Fedora's EPEL
to add fcitx-anthy as a package.  Currently, I'm able to get it working
with the Fedora 20 rpm, but it would be nice to not have to search for it.

It's been assigned (I'm not sure how meaningful that is, depending upon the
assignee's free time), but anyone who would like to add their support to
the request can view the bug at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1471924
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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-07-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:31:12AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:19:03AM -0400, H wrote:
> > On 07/17/2017 05:54 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > >   > By the way, LibreOffice seems to have a couple of Chinese fonts 
> > > installed, I am not sure I need to install additional fonts for the OS?
> > > Once you get it running, you can see.  Possibly not.
> > > 
> > Scott, great, thank you very much! Changing the pinyin setting to true from 
> > false allowed me to use pinyin to type Chinese into a terminal window. One 
> > correction, though, the setting is not in ~/.config/fcitx but in 
> > ~/.config/profile.
> > 
> > I only had time for a very quick test of typing pinyin into a blank 
> > LibreOffice document since I am leaving on a trip. This did not work, 
> > however.
> > 
> > How do I get this working? In the font selection listbox there are a couple 
> > of - ugly-looking - simplified Chinese fonts but I could not get it to 
> > work. Do you have any suggestions here?
> > 
> 
> On my version here, it's ~/.config/fcitx/profile, but regardless, glad you
> found it--there may be differences between the Chinese and Japanese
> version.
> 
> As for libreoffice, you might look under tools, options, languages and see
> what the default Asian is. 
> 
> If that doesn't do it try something like
> XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx libreoffice
> and see if that works.
> 
> (I don't use the CentOS package for libreoffice, I get the latest from
> their site. )
As for filing bugs I don't believe you need a RedHat subscription. I would
actually file it under Fedora, Fedora EPEL. All you have to do is go to
bugzilla.redhat.com and create an account, it doesn't require RedHat
subscriptions. Then you pick classification, (Fedora) and take it from
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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-07-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:19:03AM -0400, H wrote:
> On 07/17/2017 05:54 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:23:08PM -0400, H wrote:
> > > On 05/27/2017 10:15 PM, H wrote:
> > > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   > By the way, LibreOffice seems to have a couple of Chinese fonts 
> > installed, I am not sure I need to install additional fonts for the OS?
> > Once you get it running, you can see.  Possibly not.
> > 
> Scott, great, thank you very much! Changing the pinyin setting to true from 
> false allowed me to use pinyin to type Chinese into a terminal window. One 
> correction, though, the setting is not in ~/.config/fcitx but in 
> ~/.config/profile.
> 
> I only had time for a very quick test of typing pinyin into a blank 
> LibreOffice document since I am leaving on a trip. This did not work, however.
> 
> How do I get this working? In the font selection listbox there are a couple 
> of - ugly-looking - simplified Chinese fonts but I could not get it to work. 
> Do you have any suggestions here?
> 

On my version here, it's ~/.config/fcitx/profile, but regardless, glad you
found it--there may be differences between the Chinese and Japanese
version.

As for libreoffice, you might look under tools, options, languages and see
what the default Asian is. 

If that doesn't do it try something like
XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx libreoffice
and see if that works.

(I don't use the CentOS package for libreoffice, I get the latest from
their site. )


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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-07-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:23:08PM -0400, H wrote:
> 
> After leaving this along for several weeks I made another attempt at trying 
> to get fcitx up and running on CentOS 7 and the Mate desktop. I discovered 
> that there is a diagnostic tool, fcitx-diagnose, that provided some 
> additional information.
> 


> One of the missing programs was the fcitx-configtool that lacked the GUI part 
> and that so far I have been unable to find on the 'net. It seems that the 
> appropriate GUI tool would be fcitx-config-gtk3 and is necessary for 
> configuring fcitx.
> 
> Does anyone have fcitx-config-gtk3 up and running?

As mentioned, I don't have it working, but it shouldn't be necessary..
> 
> I have to vent and say that I am very, very surprised that this tool for 
> entering Asian text on CentOS 7 is so poorly developed, poorly documented and 
> poorly packaged. One would have thought that the Asian market for RHEL/CentOS 
> 7 would be of sufficient importance for all relevant programs to be available 
> in one of the key repositories.
> 
It takes developers, probably unpaid, to do it as they can.  
I would guess it's RedHat, an American company, that decides what goes in
official repositories and doesn't see a need for it.   


> I am under the impression that fcitx, considered the replacement of iBus used 
> in CentOS 6 - and which worked flawlessly - has not been updated since 2013. 
> Further, the developers have not bothered with a proper support website, 
> instead most information is absent.

It seems to be. I first tried it when I had to write a script to get ibus
to switch between English and Japanese.  

Seriously, I would file a RHEL bug report as RFA (Request for enhancement).
Now that I mention that, I may file a request to create a package for
fcitx-anthy.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-07-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:23:08PM -0400, H wrote:
> On 05/27/2017 10:15 PM, H wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 4/2/2017 11:27 AM, H wrote:
> > > > Thank you, I just discovered your post. I just installed fcitx-pinyin 
> > > > to try out.
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > These days, I use fcitx-anthy on CentOS (which took some work to 
> > > > > > set up,
> > > > > > but ibus-anthy, at least, (for Japanese) worked pretty well. I have
> > > > > > instructions, again, for Japanese, but quite possibly applicable at
> > > > > > http://srobb.net/jpninpt.html#CentOS6
> > > > > I'm going to add that a quick look through pkgs.org shows that 
> > > > > CentOS-7x
> > > > > does have packages for fcitx-pinyin and a few other Chinese engines, 
> > > > > and it
> > > > > might be worth considering making the switch. It seems (general 
> > > > > impression
> > > > > on my part) to be replacing ibus in a lot of places, in the same way 
> > > > > ibus
> > > > > gradually replaced scim.


> > Still have not solved my problem above, i.e., after installing fcitx I can 
> > switch between US English and a European language but not to Chinese.
> > 
> > I run the Mate Desktop on CentOS 7 and the configuration tool for fcitx 
> > that has been installed in the Settings Panel complains that a 
> > fcitx-config/fcitx-configtool program is missing.


> > 
> > I have not been able to find that program on the 'net and am hoping someone 
> > else - anyone - is using fcitx for input of an Asian language in 
> > CentOS7/Mate...
> > 
Yes, me, as mentioned above.  

Ok, do this, which is also described on my page under some other
distributions.  
Quit X. 
Go into ~/.config/fcitx.
Edit profile, looking for pinyan:False. Change that False to True and
startx again.  It should then show as available.  

I think, when I decided to use fcitx on CentOS-7, I already knew about this
method so never even looked for configtool.



 > By the way, LibreOffice seems to have a couple of Chinese fonts installed, I 
 > am not sure I need to install additional fonts for the OS?
> > 
Once you get it running, you can see.  Possibly not.

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Re: [CentOS] vfstp and renaiming of files with ftp client

2017-07-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:02:05AM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > the goal is, that the FTP server is a Dropbox for Alice, so she can
> > upload files and folders and is not able to see the uploaded files
> > (drwx-wx--- for the main older).
> > 
> 
> There is a much more fine-grained ACL system in Linux which sits on top
> of the standard file permissions. Have a look at, for instance,
> 
>  
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ch-acls.html
> 
> or 'man acl'

This, though old, also gives a very good explanation of ACLs.  
http://tech.trailmax.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/default_ACL.pdf


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:29:24AM -0400, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
> 
Short answer: What changes might be coming.  I suspect that RHEL8 will
default to dnf, rather than yum. There haven't been too many major changes
for the sysadmin, there are various things happening, don't know when they
started, for the desktop user with Gnome changes, Wayland, and the like.
 
The usual pattern is that something is developed for Fedora, which seems to
be aimed at the single user laptop owner who has no experience in 
handling data for other people. 

Then, RedHat blindly puts it in the next RedHat release.  Experienced
adminstrators complain. This is usually ignored. 

People post on various lists and forums that they're moving to FreeBSD.
Reminiscent of some celebrities who said they would move to Canada if Trump
became president, they find that it's easier to adjust than actually make
the move. 

That's my somewhat jaundiced view on it.  To elaborate, and cherry pick
items that suit my bias, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias, I
believe it was Fedora who first decided to severely limit the options in
the curses based version of anaconda, which then went into RHEL6, causing a
lot of curses. .  That's a simple, unresearched, and quite
possibly wrong example, but I suspect many of us use Fedora so as to not
get caught by surprise when things like that happen (the curses based
install suddenly losing lots of options.)


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Re: [CentOS] certificate for www.xxxx.xx has expired ?? (hostname)

2017-07-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 01:11:38PM +0200, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I found this Morning a Message in my Logs, that is new for me and I never 
> seen 
> this before?
> 
> Is this a Error in the Certificate System??
> 
> The certificate for www.example.at has expired
> Datum: 08.07.17 06:31
> Von: root <gjn+...@example.at>
> An: gjn+...@example.at
>  # SSL Certificate Warning 
> 
>   Certificate for hostname 'www.example.at', in file (or by nickname):
>  /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt
> 
>   The certificate needs to be renewed; this can be done
>   using the 'genkey' program.
> 
>   Browsers will not be able to correctly connect to this
>   web site using SSL until the certificate is renewed.
> 
>  ##
>   Generated by certwatch(1)

It means, as it says, that the certificate for the site has expired. I'm
guessing you purchased a cert, or maybe used LetsEncrypt, which expires
ever 3 months.  You will have to renew the certificate.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtual IP

2017-07-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 08:17:17AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 11:17:12AM +0300, Amine Tengilimoglu wrote:
> >i need your helps on setting the virtual ip. I am trying to setup static
> > virtual ip on CenOS7.  but I want my VIP to should not open when rebooting.
> 
> It looks like you're trying to add the second IP on an aliased
> interface, something that you used to have to do in older releases of
> CentOS.
> 
> In C7, you just add multiple IPs to the interface, no need to use
> eth0:1 style names.
> 
> In the ifcfg-, you can just put in IPADDR1=1.2.3.4 and
> NETMASK1=255.255.255.0, and PREFIX1=1.2.3.0.
> 
> The documentation is in
> /usr/share/doc/initscripts-9.49.37/sysconfig.txt (part of the
> initscripts package), which says:

There's a clearer explanation, IMHO, with examples, here.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/545859-add-secondary-ip-to-one-interface-in-centos-7

I don't see mention of it in the RHEL-7 release notes, they just say NM is
better than it was, and perhaps there's an easy way to do it with NM.

I've left the text that J.Billings kindly included, in below.


> 
> 
>   Base items:
> NAME=
>   Most important for PPP.  Only used in front ends.
> DEVICE=   devices where it is the "logical name")>
> IPADDRn=
> PREFIXn=
>   Network prefix.  It is used for all configurations except aliases
>   and ippp devices.  It takes precedence over NETMASK when both
>   PREFIX and NETMASK are set.
> NETMASKn=
>   Subnet mask; just useful for aliases and ippp devices.  For all other
>   configurations, use PREFIX instead.
> 
> The "n" is expected to be consecutive positive integers starting from 0.
> It can be omitted if there is only one address being configured.
> 
> So, you can have IPADDR0, IPADDR1, IPADDR2, etc.
> 
> All of these will configure an IP on the device named in the DEVICE
> line.  No need to have multiple alias interfaces.
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Re: [CentOS] RDP for Centos 7

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 05:48:57PM +0100, Rehabilitation Village Farms Coop 
wrote:
> Pls can someone tell me how to setup rdp and how it is used. Is there any
> step by step guide. Thank you

There's not much to it. It's the remote desktop protocol that you use to
access Windows servers.  On Windows you open port 3387 or allow RDP in some
other way. (I do almost no Windows, so I don't remember exactly, but I
think on servers, there's something in the Windows firewall that you can
allow.)

You then install freerdp. There are other things that will work, but this
is keeping it simple.

This site gives a brief explanation.

https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_7=x=5


You should be able to google for something like use CentOS-6 (or 7) connect
to Windows RDP and find various tutorials.


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Re: [CentOS] RDP for Centos 7

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:58:19PM -0400, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> 
> > >  I started playing with it yesterday but the problem I have is I cannot 
> > > get
> > >  it to prompt for a password unless I start it from a terminal. That is a
> > >  non-starter for me.
> > > 
> > >  I need something I can run from  and be able to connect.
> > > 
> > >  Regards,
> > 
> > have you tried something like that in 
> > 
> > xfreerdp /u:USER /p:PASSWORD /w:1200 /h:600 /v:SERVER-ADDRESS
> 
> Yes, I have. The problem is it leaves the unencrypted passwords in my history.
> Other than that, Xfreerdp seems to work fine.

I just use

xfreerdp /u:myuser /v:serverip

Then it will ask for the password and it doesn't stay in history.

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Re: [CentOS] C6 or C7 for an old netbook

2017-06-05 Thread Scott Robbins


> On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 10:31:10AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> > I've got an old HP Netbook, which is just fine for taking with when I'm
> > travelling, to check email and news. I have a very old Ubuntu
> > netbook-remix on it, and it really, *really* needs to be updated to
> > something current. I, of course, would prefer CentOS
> > 
> > The question is: I see that *if* the specs I just looked up (I'm at work,
> > not home, where I could just turn it on, but they sound right) Atom N270
> > CPU, 2G RAM, 160GB drive - what should I put on it, C6 or C7? Upgrading
> > the memory's not going to happen, so it's got to live with that size.

Depending upon what desktop you want or need, a Fedora 25 is still
available in i386.  You can download the netinst, do a minimal install then
add your desktop. It's probably the closest thing to CentOS for now.
Something like openbox, or even better, dwm, probably wouldn't strain its
resources too much. 

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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 05:11:25PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Tue, April 11, 2017 4:41 pm, Warren Young wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins <scottr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> (though they're talking of trying OpenRC)
> >
> > Not just talking.  TrueOS, neé PC-BSD, now runs on OpenRC.
> >
> > So let me tell you about how my recent TrueOS server upgrade broke
> > virtually all of my services on the TrueOS server, roached the X
> > configuration, and now has the system in an un-upgradeable state, to the
> > point that it’s looking like I’ll have to reinstall if I ever want to
> > install software from pkg again.
> 


> All systems suck. And thanks to that I got my job.

And as for me, I was just trying to make people laugh. :)


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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:11:19PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> I feel like this conversation has reached the "lets just keep
> repeating FUD about systemd" stage and probably won't progress in a
> useful direction.
> 
> Maybe we should just jump right to the end that we always have each
> time this comes up.  systemd is the death of linux and you're leaving
> for FreeBSD/devuan/whatever.  Lets just move along now.

Young man,
You feel down on your luck
Young man
You're tired of Linux
Young Man 
You want to free
Of trying to figure out systemd

Why don't you try
Free BSD
FreeeBSD
It still has an init
that you can see
(though they're talking of trying 
OpenRC)

And so on.
Sorry, that's all I was allowed to sing at work before people got annoyed.
(We're a FreeBSD shop though).  
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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:09:01AM -0400, Pete Orrall wrote:
> > And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5
> > manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do
> > names like enp5s0 offer any convenience to *anyone* not a hardware
> > engineer?
> 
> As someone else had stated, it's not related to SystemD but
> Fedora/RHEL has changed the way they handle some things.  NICs, for
> instance, are no longer named after the device number (eth0, eth1,
> eth2, etc.) but after the *driver* name.  Yes, it's a change but it
> also makes sense.  IIRC this is how FreeBSD handles NIC names.

FreeBSD uses the driver in the name, such as bge0, em0, and so on, as
opposed to bge0 or em0, depending upon the make of the card.


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Re: [CentOS] frozen bubble for C7

2017-03-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:03:25PM +, Nux! wrote:
> That perl lib was most likely in EPEL at the time I added Frozen Bubble. They 
> orphan packages once in a while breaking my deps.
> 
> Anyway, I've added perl-Compress-Bzip2 to my repo and Frozen Bubble should 
> install fine now.
> 

Yup, works like a charm.  

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 USB wifi recommendation

2017-03-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 05:09:55PM -0700, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am looking for one of those very small USB wifi adapters for the server
> I am working on.  I am tired of dealing with the 4" long TP-LINK I have
> and for my purposes, one of those little 1cm ones would do.  But which
> work with Linux?  When I was last in the store, only the TP-LINK said it
> was supported on Linux...

I've used the Edimax EW-7811Un on various flavors of Linux and BSD without
problems,   

https://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-150Mbps-Raspberry-Supports/dp/B003MTTJOY

$8.99 USD and free shipping on Amazon.

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Re: [CentOS] Need help

2017-03-20 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 02:49:11PM -0400, Rosenthal, Shoshana wrote:
> I am running centos 6.8
> The system went down when we try to reboot it we get the
> message ST:3P7Y9Y1
> Do you know what the problem might be.

I'm guessing you mean the message on the front panel, which is the service
tag number.  

There should be more helpful information if you attach a monitor to the
machine and boot it up. 


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Re: [CentOS] frozen bubble for C7

2017-03-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:16:08AM +, Miguel Medalha wrote:
> 
> >
> > Can't find perl(compress::bzip2) anywhere.
> 
> Are you looking for this? (first hit on Google)
> 
> http://search.cpan.org/~rurban/Compress-Bzip2-2.25/lib/Compress/Bzip2.pm
> 
> Or this?
> 
> ftp://195.220.108.108/linux/centos/7.3.1611/os/x86_64/Packages/perl-IO-Compress-2.061-2.el7.noarch.rpm
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Definitely not the second one, as that makes no difference, (nor does
having perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 which seemed a possibility.


As for the first one you list, I see it is a Bzip2.pm and I note that I
have that in a few different places, but frozen-bubble doesn't install for
me. 

So, TL;DR

Nope.

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Re: [CentOS] Finding lshw and flash-plugin or alternates

2017-03-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 01:36:26PM -0800, david wrote:
> Dear CentOS Gurus
> 
> I have been using "repoforge.org" primarily to obtain two RPMs, "lshw" and
> "flash-plugin".  I recently realized that "repoforge.org" should not be
> used, as it has had no updates for a long long time.  But, when I search for
> the lshw program is nowhere to be found.  I value its ability to inventory
> the hardware, and construct an attractive HTML page.
> 

I'm not sure about CentOS-6, but for CentOS-7, lshw seems to be in the base
repo.  Flash can be gotten directly from Adobe's site, you can either get
the yum repo or just download the latest rpm and use rpm -Uvh on it.

Looking at pkgs.org, it seems that lshw is also in the base reop for
CentOS-6x.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-02-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 08:51:41PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 08:42:43PM -0500, H wrote:
> > I have just done a minimal installation of Centos7 followed by X Windows 
> > and the Mate desktop on a workstation. Although the default language is 
> > English, I would like to be able to write Chinese text in various 
> > applications.
> > 
> > I seem to remember this was very easy to do in Centos 6 and Gnome: possibly 
> > only requiring only a simple 'yum groupinstall "Chinese Support"' after 
> > which I could use iBus to switch between languages. This does not seem to 
> > work in Centos 7.
> > 
> 
> 
> These days, I use fcitx-anthy on CentOS (which took some work to set up,
> but ibus-anthy, at least, (for Japanese) worked pretty well. I have
> instructions, again, for Japanese, but quite possibly applicable at
> http://srobb.net/jpninpt.html#CentOS6

I'm going to add that a quick look through pkgs.org shows that CentOS-7x
does have packages for fcitx-pinyin and a few other Chinese engines, and it
might be worth considering making the switch. It seems (general impression
on my part) to be replacing ibus in a lot of places, in the same way ibus
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Re: [CentOS] Installing support for Chinese text in Centos 7

2017-02-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 08:42:43PM -0500, H wrote:
> I have just done a minimal installation of Centos7 followed by X Windows and 
> the Mate desktop on a workstation. Although the default language is English, 
> I would like to be able to write Chinese text in various applications.
> 
> I seem to remember this was very easy to do in Centos 6 and Gnome: possibly 
> only requiring only a simple 'yum groupinstall "Chinese Support"' after which 
> I could use iBus to switch between languages. This does not seem to work in 
> Centos 7.
> 


These days, I use fcitx-anthy on CentOS (which took some work to set up,
but ibus-anthy, at least, (for Japanese) worked pretty well. I have
instructions, again, for Japanese, but quite possibly applicable at
http://srobb.net/jpninpt.html#CentOS6


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Re: [CentOS] movie player vs. mp3

2017-02-20 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 07:58:22PM -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:


> I have movie player installed on centos 6.
> When I try to play an mp3 file, it complains about the lack of a codec,
> mpeg-1 something 3.
> google hasn't helped.  What package do I need?
> Trying to install ffmpeg gets me a no such package message.
> 
> I've dealt with codec issues before.
> Mostly what I remember is that before I was done,
> I wanted to kill something.

For various legal reasons, I don't think CentOS can include various codecs.

However, if you add the nux repos, you can then install mplayer and be able
to play mp3s. 

(There are probably other programs, you can install ffmpeg from source, and
so on, but installing mplayer from the nux repos is probably the easiest
workaround. Or mpv if it's available, I'm not sure if it is.)

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[CentOS] SELinux upgrade

2017-01-19 Thread Scott Robbins
Well, got hit by this too. Ironically, I don't use docker, I think I had it
installed being pulled in for something else.

So, tried the yum remove docker* but no go.  When I do semanage port -a -t
ssh_port_t -p tcp  I get an error


Bad type declaration at /etc/selinux/targeted/tmp/modules/100/docker/cil:1

which is something that doesn't exist. Tried installing container-selinux,
but so far, the only way to get SSH to work on a default port is to
setenforce 0.  

This isn't a really important machine, but it is certainly annoying.

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Re: [CentOS] Unable to edit resolv.conf

2017-01-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:49:48AM -0500, TE Dukes wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I changed ISPs and need to update name servers in resolv.conf.
> 
> I have tried nano, gedit, Webmin, system-config-network and it won't allow
> me to make the changes.
> 
> I have Network Manager turned off and when I enable it , eth0 and eth1 have
> no entries.
> 
> I enabled it, added the connections, but still no changes.
> 
> I'm stuck

I know that in Fedora, resolv.conf is now some symlink to a NetworkManager
file (I forget where).

Try doing ls -l /etc/resolv.conf, and see if that's the case in CentOS-7 as
well. (I don't use NM, so I'm not sure what the case is with it, as the
machine I'm using had that change made, if it was needed, long ago. :) )

If it does turn out to be a symlink, copy its information, if you need it, 
then delete the file, then recreate it.

Hope this helps, but I'm not sure. It is a working solution in Fedora.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative to cPanel

2016-12-15 Thread Scott Robbins




On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 06:23:31PM +0100, Andrew Holway wrote:
> I think most of the market is moving towards AWS Elastic Beanstalk,
> OpenShift and Docker. It seems control panels are not really much of a
> thing anymore.

For what it's worth, someone just mentioned this on the NYCBUG mailing list

http://ajenti.org/ 

No personal experience.


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 15 December 2016 at 16:17, FrancisM <fran...@mytechrepublic.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Im looking for alternative for cPanel and somehow I read that the 'cwp
> > control web panel' (http://centos-webpanel.com) and Sentora (


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Re: [CentOS] kmod-nvidia problems

2016-12-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:49:50PM -0800, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 12/10/2016 12:28 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> >On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Rob Kampen <rkam...@kampensonline.com> 
> >wrote:
> >>Hi List,
> >>
> >>I use the kmod-nvidia package on my CentOS workstations.
> >>
> >>Always this has "just worked".
> >>
> >>Doing a yum update this morning I now get this:
> >>
> >>
> >>09:15:28 : ERROR:   Package: kmod-nvidia-367.57-2.el7.elrepo.x86_64 (elrepo)
> >>Requires: kernel(drm_atomic_helper_plane_reset) = 0xabd4c98d
> >>Installed: kernel-3.10.0-327.28.2.el7.x86_64 (@updates)
> >>kernel(drm_atomic_helper_plane_reset) = 0xb23805db

This is a known issue.  I think you can find mention of it on the forums,
but I don't remember where I actually found mention of it. 

It has to do with what will be needed when 7.3 comes along.  
Ah here's the link.
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59965


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Re: [CentOS] photos on iPhone 6

2016-10-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:18:49AM -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
> For the OP:
> Did you even try Google before asking the list?  Google should always be
> your first choice.
> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-iphone-6.html
> 
> For Scott:
> If you install the VLC app on the iPad you can probably skip the
> transcoding and also having to add the video to iTunes first.  

Tried that a few years ago--I don't remember why it didn't work--it might
have been as silly as her saying she didn't want to be bothered with it.

(But many thanks for reminding me. I may ask her to look at it again next
time.)

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Re: [CentOS] photos on iPhone 6

2016-10-20 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 05:11:51PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> 
> There's also MTP packages, that can speak directly. That's what I
> installed on my 6 home workstation, and I can copy files to and from my
> Nook.
> 
>   mark

Nook isn't an iPhone though. Apple's very proprietary. :)

Is there a computer in the house with iTunes?  For example, when my wife
travels, she wants videos on her iPad. I transcode them for the iPad on a
Linux or FreeBSD workstation, then scp them over to her Mac, and from
there, put them into iTunes and from there, into the iPad. 

It's less of a pain than it sounds, but is going on the premise that you
have a computer with iTunes.  I don't know about it with a Windows version
of iTunes, we've only done it with her Mac.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on new Thinkpads

2016-10-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 06:19:04PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:


> Only other problem I had was I got the high-res display, which made my
> favorite terminal font (classic X bitmapped font "fixed" aka 6x13) too
> small to comfortably read. :)  Solved that by just doubling the font
> size to 12x26!  Wish someone would make an outline font that looks
> essentially the same so I could scale it (I've taken a look at trying a
> couple of times, but I have no skill for font work I've found).
> 

Sometimes, putting something like 

Xft.dpi:180 

in ~/.Xdefaults
made all fonts usuable for me on most systems.  I have a page about my
adventures with the yoga2 (though not about CentOS on it.)
https://srobb.net/yoga2.html

What I have found is that the default Fedora workstation auto scales fonts
(and everything else for me). 
There are a few other ways to deal with fonts, such as using xrandr to
scale, but in Fedora 24 and up, (you mentioned you were using F23), if
you're using Gnome, it may be just automatically work. I tend to use more
minimalist window managers but even so, with Fedora (and Arch) at least,
the Xft.dpi:180 entry made most things readable.



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Re: [CentOS] Fail on start x server

2016-08-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:35:22PM +, Edwin Agudelo wrote:
> Good Day.
> 
> I Dont try to boot with a Live image, try rescue with a install dvd, but
> always stop (freeze) on a black screen.

You might have to use nomodeset--where they say hit tab for extra options,
you can type that in.

I too, would be curious as to what happens with a live CD if you have
access to it. But were you able to install with the graphic interface or
did it drop you to text?


If you can boot into text mode and try to install the vesa driver, this
might also help.
(Though I'd try the kernel update mentioned in another post first.)

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Re: [CentOS] how to find recently installed font packages

2016-08-23 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:47:06PM -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
> 
> greetings.
> 
> in an attempt to display correct fonts in firefox instead of squares
> with binary values, i installed wrong fonts and made things worse.
> 
> how do i find out what fonts are, as i did not think to make note
> of what i was adding?
> 

While I see yum.log was mentioned, I didn't see mention of yum history.

If you type it (you have to use root or sudo), you get a history of your
yum transactoins.  So you might see something like



184 | update   | 2016-08-20 16:48 | Update

(Sorry if formatting is off). 
In your case, you might see 

185 install bad_font   | |Install


You can then use

yum undo 185

This will undo the yum transaction that installed the font.

I realize you've solved your issue for the moment, but the history option
is quite useful.

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Re: [CentOS] https and self signed

2016-06-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:02:57AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Wed, June 15, 2016 9:17 am, Warren Young wrote:
> >>
> >> Nowadays it's quite easy to get normal ssl certificates for free. E.g.
> >
> > Today, I would prefer Let’s Encrypt:
> >
> >   https://letsencrypt.org/
> >
> > It is philosophically aligned with the open source software world, rather
> > than act as bait for a company that would prefer to sell you a cert
> > instead.
> 
> I have got question for experts. I just opened settings of Firefox
> (latest, on FreeBSD), and took a look at the list of Certification
> Authorities it comes with.
> 
> I do see WoSign there (though I'd prefer to avoid my US located servers
> have certificates signed by authority located in China, hence located sort
> of behind "the great firewall of China" - call me superstitious).
> 
> I do not see neither starttls.com nor letsencrypt.org between Authorities
> certificates. 


I'm not an expert by any means, but I use letsencrypt (mostly for testing)
and it's always worked for me in FreeBSD with Firefox, without any special
effort on my part. 
You can try https://srobb.net which is using letsencrypt as its cert.

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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

2016-06-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:55:15PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2016 5:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>
> >> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
> >> years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
> >> without success. 
> >
> > What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie.
> > It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.
> 
> Thanks Scott! Palemoon sounds really promising. I even vaguely remember
> someone mentioned it to me a while ago (you?). It fell off my attention
> probably because my main workstation is FreeBSD (and such is my laptop).
> But I'm sure, I will have no problem building palemoon. So, few months
> from now most likely I will have it s my main browser (if so I probably
> will volunteer to maintain palemoon FreeBSD port, unless someone else
> does).

Well, if you want someone to try it, let me know.  :)  One doesn't even
have to build palemoon, you can run their install.sh script and it should
just create it and put the files in /opt.


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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

2016-06-02 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
> years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
> without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I
> know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production
> director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but
> what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with
> firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release"
> without decent debugging...).

What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie.
It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.

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Re: [CentOS] Re Centos 7.2 Repos

2016-05-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 04:53:11PM +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> >One of the enabled repos is centos-media.repo
> >It fails:
> 
> If you have the DVD repo enabled, and don't provide it with the DVD, it will
> fail.  I'd disable that repo, as it suggests, and just use the network repos.
> 
In case it isn't clear, media, in this case, refers to a mounted DVD.
You're not the first to be confused by it.  Once installation is complete,
and you're not using the install DVD for anything, disable or remove the
media-repo.

For MULTImedia, as in mplayer and various other things to play music and
video, the simple way is to install the nux-desktop repo.  I believe that
requires the EPEL repo as well.  

Once you have the nux-desktop repo installed (see the CentOS wiki in the
HowTos package management or something with package in it for instructiosn
on installing the nux repo), you can then run yum install smplayer.  It can
be frustrating when you're new to it.



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Re: [CentOS] Systemd and VirtualBox

2016-05-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 09:25:53AM +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016, Rob Kampen wrote:
> 
> 
> >Are there any good tutorial / howtos for KVM? Although at this
> >point I am back on another continent and reluctant to shift to KVM
> >when over 20 hours fly time away from the server.
> 
> I'd probably start with:
> 
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Deployment_and_Administration_Guide/
> 

An alternative might be this one.  I've always found this person's KVM docs
very easy to follow.

http://linux.dell.com/files/whitepapers/KVM_Virtualization_in_RHEL_7_Made_Easy.pdf


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Re: [CentOS] C6: Gparted "the kernel failed to re-read partition table"

2016-05-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 05:19:07AM +0100, Always Learning wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 23:17 -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> 
> > Is the disk or 1 of its partitions mounted ? If so, can it be
> > unmounted 

Firstly, if at all possible, you're better off doing it with disks
unmounted, booting from a gparted live CD.  

Secondly, if that's not practical, that message is common when using, say
fdisk. Sometimes, running partprobe afterwards will reflect the new
partition scheme, other times, you may just have to reboot.

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Re: [CentOS] resize lvm

2016-05-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:42:18AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 5/6/2016 11:39 AM, Wes James wrote:
> >file -s /dev/dm-0
> >
> >
> >
> >and it says XFS
> >
> >
> >
> >So would I use xfs_growfs?
> 
> bingo!xfs_growfs can be used with the file system online, I'm
> pretty sure resize2fs requires the file system to be offline
> (unmounted).

Sorry, I missed that it would most likely be xfs.  resize2fs doesn't
necessarily require it to be offline, but it does frequently (though not
always, IIRC), suggest running e2fsk first which should definitely be done
while it's unmounted.

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Re: [CentOS] resize lvm

2016-05-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:19:35PM +, Wes James wrote:
> I have a laptop that I put centos 7 on and I started out with a 30gig 
> partition.  I resized the other part of the disk to allow more space for 
> centos.  I then created an unformated partition in the available space,  ran
> 
> 
> pvcreate /dev/sda4
> 
> 
> 
> vgextend lvname /dev/sda4
> 
> 
> 
> lvextend -L 184.46G /dev/lvname/root


I find it easiest to do lvextend -l 100%VG /dev/lvname/rootI find it
easiest to do lvextend -l 100%VG /dev/lvname/root.  
(Then, if practical, and since it's a laptop, I'm guessing it's not a
production machine), reboot from a livecd or whatever and doing e2fsk -f
/dev/lvmname/root

I don't know if it will solve your issue, but may be worth trying. 

> 
> 
> but when I run:
> 
> 
> 
> sudo resize2fs /dev/lvname/root
> 
> 
> I get:
> 
> 
> 
> resize2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open 
> /dev/lvname/root
> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

2016-05-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:13:10AM +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
> 
> you're probably removing too many packages, eg some key package is a
> dep of MINIMAL but not in MINIMAL, and "yum remove" removes it and
> all its dependants.

Just as an example of this, and one that RH may move into an update
sooner or later.  Fedora 24's minimal comes with NetworkManager.  I always
remove it and use network.  So, on Fedora 24, which is admittedly in beta,
/etc/resolv.conf is now a part of NetworkManager, a symbolic link
 to /var/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf. So,if one removes NetworkManager
or even disables it, name resolution no longer works. 

It seems to me that the easiest thing would be to quickly run a minimal
install in VirtualBox, and if you remove anything, keep an eye on it, or,
as was suggested, below.

> Or replace yum remove with "rpm -e" to see if and who in $SUPPRIMER
> has deps in MINIMAL.

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Re: [CentOS] Bourne shell deprecated?

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 07:27:26PM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
> 
> Some of the BSDs use to have a bourne shell and maybe some do, I don't know.
> 
Yup.  

> bash is mostly compatible with bourne (can run most bourne scripts)
> which is why /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash on GNU and most other
> *nix systems.

Bash can run Bourne, but not necessarily vice versa, which can be
problematic if, say, moving a Linux script to a BSD or AIX box.   I
remember something I'd done which used, IIRC, $UID, without realizing it
was a bashism, instead of using id -u.  


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

2016-04-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 08:55:12AM -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Scott Robbins <scottr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37:44AM +1200, Peter wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> At present, CentOS-7 works with the rpm for Fedora on Google's site. I
> > don't think RedHat had their own official rpm for either RHEL-6 or 7, did
> > (do) they?
> >
> >
> They do, in their Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Supplementary repository.


Ah, thank you, I hadn't known that.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

2016-04-18 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37:44AM +1200, Peter wrote:


> 
> Right, Johnny Hughes (I think) used to build it, but IIRC he had to stop
> for reasons that you can find by searching this mailing list.
> 
> Note that I'm personally not interested in getting chrome to work for
> CentOS 6, but I have a vested interest in keeping it working in 7, so
> when the time comes I'll very likely find a solution myself and share it.

I think Richard Lloyd had (has?) versions that work, but are usually a bit
old.  
At present, CentOS-7 works with the rpm for Fedora on Google's site. I
don't think RedHat had their own official rpm for either RHEL-6 or 7, did
(do) they?

I eventually updated to CentOS-7 on my main home machine, so I haven't kept
up.

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