Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 7:51 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
>>
>> You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
>>
>>
> Is it possible to bump the kernel version number to make sure the
> kernel gets re-installed on automated installs?  Or would this break
> the compatibility with RHEL?
> 

Well .. It would break ENVR with RHEL, right?

RHEL is not bumping up their kernel version and they had the same issue.



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Pete Biggs


> 
> You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
> 
> 
Is it possible to bump the kernel version number to make sure the
kernel gets re-installed on automated installs?  Or would this break
the compatibility with RHEL?

P.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:13, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
 wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen John Smoogen 
> Reply-To: CentOS mailing list 
> To: CentOS mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:57:49 -0400
>
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 10:20, david  wrote:
> > > 
>
> I agree  it is a lot of shorthand because of expectations. In the endwe (the 
> list) don't know what you have on your system or what state itis in. In order 
> to get that information to help we would need you totry the following:
> 1. boot using a working USB/cdrom/netboot path and installer2. choose the 
> rescue mode3. have the rescue mount the disks as local and chroot into 
> thesystem. << if possible have the system also bring up networking >>
> Thenyum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil
> John,
>
>
> I have a CentOS 8.2.2004 system running on an EPYC-equipped SuperMicro 
> motherboard. I assume it uses EFI boot. I have it set to auto-update with 
> cron.daily, so it almost certainly has the buggy package(s) installed. I'm 
> loath to try rebooting it just to see.
>

The buggy package is the shim package. If you don't have it on your
system then you should not be affected.

>
> When I run "yum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil" all I get back are the three 
> installed kernel packages. Reverting to the old fashioned "rpm -qa | grep 
> kernel-4 ; rpm -qa | grep shim ; rpm -qa | grep grub2 ; rpm -qa | grep 
> mokutil" I get:
>
>
> kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
> kernel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-4.18.0-193.6.3.el8_2.x86_64
> grub2-tools-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
> grub2-pc-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
> grub2-pc-modules-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
> grub2-common-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
> grub2-tools-efi-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
> grub2-tools-minimal-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
> grub2-tools-extra-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
>
>
> I apparently do not have either shim or mokutil packages installed. I'm not 
> sure what this means. Am I not using EFI boot?
>
>

use the df command. If you are using EFI then it will report /boot/EFI
as a partition. If it doesn't then I would assume you are using BIOS.


> I have local copies of the earlier v2.02-81 grub2 packages. Would it be 
> worthwhile to replace my v2.02-87 grub2 packages, then add this line to 
> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf:
>
>
> exclude=grub shim mokutil
>
>
> as previously advised?
>

Since the problem is the shim package and you don't seem to have it..
I would say exclusion is not needed.

>
> Or should I just leave well enough alone and wait for tonight's auto-update 
> to fix things?
>
>
> --Doc Savage
> Fairview Heights, IL
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
-Original Message-
From: Stephen John Smoogen 
Reply-To: CentOS mailing list 
To: CentOS mailing list 
Subject: Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:57:49 -0400

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 10:20, david  wrote:
> > 

I agree  it is a lot of shorthand because of expectations. In the endwe (the 
list) don't know what you have on your system or what state itis in. In order 
to get that information to help we would need you totry the following:
1. boot using a working USB/cdrom/netboot path and installer2. choose the 
rescue mode3. have the rescue mount the disks as local and chroot into 
thesystem. << if possible have the system also bring up networking >>
Thenyum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil
John,


I have a CentOS 8.2.2004 system running on an EPYC-equipped SuperMicro 
motherboard. I assume it uses EFI boot. I have it set to auto-update with 
cron.daily, so it almost certainly has the buggy package(s) installed. I'm 
loath to try rebooting it just to see.


When I run "yum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil" all I get back are the three 
installed kernel packages. Reverting to the old fashioned "rpm -qa | grep 
kernel-4 ; rpm -qa | grep shim ; rpm -qa | grep grub2 ; rpm -qa | grep mokutil" 
I get:


kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-4.18.0-193.6.3.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-pc-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-pc-modules-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
grub2-common-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
grub2-tools-efi-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-minimal-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-extra-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64


I apparently do not have either shim or mokutil packages installed. I'm not 
sure what this means. Am I not using EFI boot?


I have local copies of the earlier v2.02-81 grub2 packages. Would it be 
worthwhile to replace my v2.02-87 grub2 packages, then add this line to 
/etc/dnf/dnf.conf:


exclude=grub shim mokutil


as previously advised?


Or should I just leave well enough alone and wait for tonight's auto-update to 
fix things?


--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL








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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 07:16:25AM -0700, david wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
...
> 
> > 
> > You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
> > 
> 
> Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't understand "just reinstall the
> kernel".  I don't know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm
> command.
> 
> However, since this is a crash-and-burn system, I'm going back to a virgin
> install with netinstall of 7 2003.  I'll let you know what the results are.

Using dnf instead I would get my latest installed kernel version number:

  $ dnf list installed kernel
  Installed Packages
  kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.el7   @base   
  kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.8.2.el7   @updates
  kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.10.1.el7  @updates
  kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.13.1.el7  @updates
  kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  @updates

Then do:

  $ sudo dnf reinstall kernel*3.10.0-1127.18.2*

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 02/08/20 15:10, Marc Balmer via CentOS ha scritto:

Thanks for acting quickly, especially on a weekend.


This. +1

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 11:06, david  wrote:

> > > Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't
> > > understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't
> > > know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.
> >
> >I agree  it is a lot of shorthand because of expectations. In the end
> >we (the list) don't know what you have on your system or what state it
> >is in. In order to get that information to help we would need you to
> >try the following:
> >
> >1. boot using a working USB/cdrom/netboot path and installer
> >2. choose the rescue mode
> >3. have the rescue mount the disks as local and chroot into the
> >system. << if possible have the system also bring up networking >>
> >
> >Then
> >yum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil
> >
> >It would also help to know which kind of Mac Mini it is (year, model,
> >firmware versions). Apple changes the internal hardware of these
> >things and how they boot so if there it may be that a particular model
> >is more affected than others.
>
>
> How does one obtain that information?  There's nothing written on the box.
>

I don't have any access to a Mac Mini to help further than this general help:
First I would search google for "how to obtain model version info on mac mini"

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201894

Then depending on how the mac mini is being booted (using the windows
compatibility mode or some other method) I would look for howtos on
how to update the firmware.

After that it is time to learn the Mac magic key boot sequences. The
Mac isn't exactly a PC and its UEFI does not have a standard menu
front end like many PC UEFI.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202796

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Jason Pyeron
> From: david
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:16 AM
> > >> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
> > >> repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
> > >> updated.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just did
> > > yum clean all
> > > yum update
> > >
> > > and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all'
> > did it, or maybe just showed up.
> > >
> > > I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> > > no boot.  Just a blank screen.
> > >
> > > Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
> > >
> > > This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> > > netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
> > >
> > > Or what?
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
> >
> 
> Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't
> understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't
> know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.

A quick google - 
https://ma.ttias.be/reinstall-the-linux-kernel-on-centos-or-rhel/

But I think this is easier:

yum install --downloadonly --downloaddir=~/ kernel
- OR -
wget your kernel version...

then

rpm -Uvh kernel-*.rpm --replacepkgs


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david

At 07:57 AM 8/2/2020, you wrote:

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 10:20, david  wrote:
>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
> > >> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
> > >> repo where your updates come from.  OR 
.. wait for that mirror to get

> > >> updated.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just did
> > > yum clean all
> > > yum update
> > >
> > > and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all'
> > did it, or maybe just showed up.
> > >
> > > I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> > > no boot.  Just a blank screen.
> > >
> > > Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
> > >
> > > This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> > > netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
> > >
> > > Or what?
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
> >
>
> Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't
> understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't
> know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.

I agree  it is a lot of shorthand because of expectations. In the end
we (the list) don't know what you have on your system or what state it
is in. In order to get that information to help we would need you to
try the following:

1. boot using a working USB/cdrom/netboot path and installer
2. choose the rescue mode
3. have the rescue mount the disks as local and chroot into the
system. << if possible have the system also bring up networking >>

Then
yum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil

It would also help to know which kind of Mac Mini it is (year, model,
firmware versions). Apple changes the internal hardware of these
things and how they boot so if there it may be that a particular model
is more affected than others.



How does one obtain that information?  There's nothing written on the box.

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 10:20, david  wrote:
>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
> > >> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
> > >> repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
> > >> updated.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just did
> > > yum clean all
> > > yum update
> > >
> > > and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all'
> > did it, or maybe just showed up.
> > >
> > > I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> > > no boot.  Just a blank screen.
> > >
> > > Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
> > >
> > > This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> > > netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
> > >
> > > Or what?
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.
> >
>
> Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't
> understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't
> know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.

I agree  it is a lot of shorthand because of expectations. In the end
we (the list) don't know what you have on your system or what state it
is in. In order to get that information to help we would need you to
try the following:

1. boot using a working USB/cdrom/netboot path and installer
2. choose the rescue mode
3. have the rescue mount the disks as local and chroot into the
system. << if possible have the system also bring up networking >>

Then
yum list kernel shim grub2 mokutil

It would also help to know which kind of Mac Mini it is (year, model,
firmware versions). Apple changes the internal hardware of these
things and how they boot so if there it may be that a particular model
is more affected than others.



> However, since this is a crash-and-burn system,
> I'm going back to a virgin install with
> netinstall of 7 2003.  I'll let you know what the results are.
>
> David
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david











>> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
>> repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
>> updated.
>
>
> I just did
> yum clean all
> yum update
>
> and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all' 
did it, or maybe just showed up.

>
> I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> no boot.  Just a blank screen.
>
> Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
>
> This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
>
> Or what?
>
> David

You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.


Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't 
understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't 
know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.


However, since this is a crash-and-burn system, 
I'm going back to a virgin install with 
netinstall of 7 2003.  I'll let you know what the results are.


---


On a Mac-Mini, which got hit by the bug in shim, 
I re-installed Centos 7 2003 from netinstall, 
selecting minimal as the software selection.


The reboot worked fine.

So, I next tried "yum -y update", noticed shim 
7-8 got selected.  However, at the completion of 
the update, I did a reboot and got a blank screen.  No grub choices.  Not good.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david











>> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
>> repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
>> updated.
>
>
> I just did
> yum clean all
> yum update
>
> and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all' 
did it, or maybe just showed up.

>
> I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> no boot.  Just a blank screen.
>
> Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
>
> This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
>
> Or what?
>
> David

You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.



Sorry for being so ignorant, but I don't 
understand "just reinstall the kernel".  I don't 
know how to translate that into a specific yum or rpm command.


However, since this is a crash-and-burn system, 
I'm going back to a virgin install with 
netinstall of 7 2003.  I'll let you know what the results are.


David 


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 8:47 AM, david wrote:
> At 06:37 AM 8/2/2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 8/2/20 8:30 AM, david wrote:
>> > At 06:10 AM 8/2/2020, you wrote:
>> >> On 8/2/20 8:04 AM, david wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> > I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS
>> Stream
>> >> >> updates.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you
>> >> should see
>> >> >> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
>> >> >> install every file.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please report both positive and negative results.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Johnny Hughes
>> >> >>
>> >> > I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The
>> version of
>> >> shim
>> >> > says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.
>> >> >
>> >> > What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the
>> >> failure.Â
>> >> > Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for shim
>> >> 15-8 to
>> >> > appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there some
>> other
>> >> remedy?
>> >> >
>> >> > And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was
>> >> > addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.
>> >> >
>> >> > David
>> >>
>> >> It would be best IF the kernel and shim get installed at the same time
>> >> if possible .. so I would install the kernel again (since it is not
>> >> running yet) with the new shim.
>> >>
>> >> BTW .. it does not fail on every install .. so it might work w/o
>> the new
>> >> update.  However, no need to chance it at this point.  Wait until
>> the
>> >> new shim is there and install it and reinstall the kernel is my
>> advise.
>> >
>> > Here's what I get...
>> >
>> > rpm -qa | grep shim
>> > shim-x64-15-7.el7_9.x86_64
>> >
>> > yum update
>> > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, priorities
>> > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>> > Â * base: mirror.fileplanet.com
>> > Â * epel: mirror.prgmr.com
>> > Â * extras: mirror.shastacoe.net
>> > Â * remi-php73: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
>> > Â * remi-safe: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
>> > Â * updates: centos-distro.1gservers.com
>> > 373 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
>> > No packages marked for update
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Should I just wait for 15-8 to appear?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>>
>> Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
>> repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
>> updated.
> 
> 
> I just did
> yum clean all
> yum update
> 
> and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all' did it, or maybe just showed up.
> 
> I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
> no boot.  Just a blank screen.
> 
> Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(
> 
> This is not an essential machine, so I could re-install (from
> netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.
> 
> Or what?
> 
> David

You just need to reinstall the kernel and it should work.



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david

At 06:37 AM 8/2/2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 8/2/20 8:30 AM, david wrote:
> At 06:10 AM 8/2/2020, you wrote:
>> On 8/2/20 8:04 AM, david wrote:
>> >
>> >> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> > I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream
>> >> updates.
>> >>
>> >> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you
>> should see
>> >> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
>> >>
>> >> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
>> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >>
>> >> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
>> >>
>> >> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >>
>> >> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
>> >> install every file.
>> >>
>> >> Please report both positive and negative results.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Johnny Hughes
>> >>
>> > I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The version of
>> shim
>> > says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.
>> >
>> > What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the
>> failure.Â
>> > Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for shim
>> 15-8 to
>> > appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there some other
>> remedy?
>> >
>> > And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was
>> > addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> It would be best IF the kernel and shim get installed at the same time
>> if possible .. so I would install the kernel again (since it is not
>> running yet) with the new shim.
>>
>> BTW .. it does not fail on every install .. so it might work w/o the new
>> update.  However, no need to chance it at this point.  Wait until the
>> new shim is there and install it and reinstall the kernel is my advise.
>
> Here's what I get...
>
> rpm -qa | grep shim
> shim-x64-15-7.el7_9.x86_64
>
> yum update
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, priorities
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> Â * base: mirror.fileplanet.com
> Â * epel: mirror.prgmr.com
> Â * extras: mirror.shastacoe.net
> Â * remi-php73: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
> Â * remi-safe: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
> Â * updates: centos-distro.1gservers.com
> 373 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
> No packages marked for update
>
>
>
> Should I just wait for 15-8 to appear?
>
> David
>

Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
updated.



I just did
yum clean all
yum update

and 15-8 showed up.  Maybe the 'clean all' did it, or maybe just showed up.

I applied the update (yum update), rebooted and...
no boot.  Just a blank screen.

Hardware is a Mac-Mini :-(

This is not an essential machine, so I could 
re-install (from netinstall) if you think it's worth the effort.


Or what?

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 8:30 AM, david wrote:
> At 06:10 AM 8/2/2020, you wrote:
>> On 8/2/20 8:04 AM, david wrote:
>> >
>> >> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> > I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream
>> >> updates.
>> >>
>> >> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you
>> should see
>> >> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
>> >>
>> >> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
>> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> >>
>> >> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
>> >>
>> >> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> >>
>> >> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
>> >> install every file.
>> >>
>> >> Please report both positive and negative results.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Johnny Hughes
>> >>
>> > I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The version of
>> shim
>> > says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.
>> >
>> > What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the
>> failure.Â
>> > Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for shim
>> 15-8 to
>> > appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there some other
>> remedy?
>> >
>> > And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was
>> > addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> It would be best IF the kernel and shim get installed at the same time
>> if possible .. so I would install the kernel again (since it is not
>> running yet) with the new shim.
>>
>> BTW .. it does not fail on every install .. so it might work w/o the new
>> update.  However, no need to chance it at this point.  Wait until the
>> new shim is there and install it and reinstall the kernel is my advise.
> 
> Here's what I get...
> 
> rpm -qa | grep shim
> shim-x64-15-7.el7_9.x86_64
> 
> yum update
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, priorities
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * base: mirror.fileplanet.com
>  * epel: mirror.prgmr.com
>  * extras: mirror.shastacoe.net
>  * remi-php73: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
>  * remi-safe: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
>  * updates: centos-distro.1gservers.com
> 373 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
> No packages marked for update
> 
> 
> 
> Should I just wait for 15-8 to appear?
> 
> David
> 

Yes .. it should be on mirror.centos.org now .. you could change the
repo where your updates come from.  OR .. wait for that mirror to get
updated.




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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david

At 06:10 AM 8/2/2020, you wrote:

On 8/2/20 8:04 AM, david wrote:
>
>> 
>
>
>
>> > I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream
>> updates.
>>
>> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you should see
>> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
>>
>> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
>> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>>
>> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
>>
>> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>>
>> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
>> install every file.
>>
>> Please report both positive and negative results.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Johnny Hughes
>>
> I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The version of shim
> says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.
>
> What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the failure.Â
> Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for shim 15-8 to
> appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there some other remedy?
>
> And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was
> addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.
>
> David

It would be best IF the kernel and shim get installed at the same time
if possible .. so I would install the kernel again (since it is not
running yet) with the new shim.

BTW .. it does not fail on every install .. so it might work w/o the new
update.  However, no need to chance it at this point.  Wait until the
new shim is there and install it and reinstall the kernel is my advise.


Here's what I get...

rpm -qa | grep shim
shim-x64-15-7.el7_9.x86_64

yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.fileplanet.com
 * epel: mirror.prgmr.com
 * extras: mirror.shastacoe.net
 * remi-php73: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
 * remi-safe: mirror.sjc02.svwh.net
 * updates: centos-distro.1gservers.com
373 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
No packages marked for update



Should I just wait for 15-8 to appear?

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 8:12 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 8/2/20 8:10 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:

 Please report both positive and negative results.
>>>
>>> A previously afftected Aures nino POS-terminal boots just fine with CentOS 
>>> 7 and shim 15.8.
>>>
>>> Now I will test an affected machine (Aures Twist POS terminal) that runs 
>>> CentOS 8 (well, usually runs CentOS 8, but not now, since it does not boot 
>>> ... :=>
>>
>> The affected machine running CentOS 8 boots fine after upgrading to shim 
>> 15.15
>>
>> Thanks for acting quickly, especially on a weekend.
> 
> Thanks for the reports .. it is not the first weekend spent on this
> issue .. not even the first in a row :)
> 
> The CentOS Stream update should be release in a few minutes unless we
> hit a snag in testing.
>

OK .. CentOS Stream update is also now pushed.  Same packages as CentOS
Linux 8.





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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 8:10 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>>>
>>> Please report both positive and negative results.
>>
>> A previously afftected Aures nino POS-terminal boots just fine with CentOS 7 
>> and shim 15.8.
>>
>> Now I will test an affected machine (Aures Twist POS terminal) that runs 
>> CentOS 8 (well, usually runs CentOS 8, but not now, since it does not boot 
>> ... :=>
> 
> The affected machine running CentOS 8 boots fine after upgrading to shim 15.15
> 
> Thanks for acting quickly, especially on a weekend.

Thanks for the reports .. it is not the first weekend spent on this
issue .. not even the first in a row :)

The CentOS Stream update should be release in a few minutes unless we
hit a snag in testing.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 8:04 AM, david wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
>> > I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream
>> updates.
>>
>> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you should see
>> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
>>
>> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
>> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
>>
>> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
>>
>> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
>>
>> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
>> install every file.
>>
>> Please report both positive and negative results.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Johnny Hughes
>>
> I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The version of shim
> says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.
> 
> What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the failure. 
> Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for shim 15-8 to
> appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there some other remedy?
> 
> And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was
> addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.
> 
> David

It would be best IF the kernel and shim get installed at the same time
if possible .. so I would install the kernel again (since it is not
running yet) with the new shim.

BTW .. it does not fail on every install .. so it might work w/o the new
update.  However, no need to chance it at this point.  Wait until the
new shim is there and install it and reinstall the kernel is my advise.



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Marc Balmer via CentOS
>> 
>> Please report both positive and negative results.
> 
> A previously afftected Aures nino POS-terminal boots just fine with CentOS 7 
> and shim 15.8.
> 
> Now I will test an affected machine (Aures Twist POS terminal) that runs 
> CentOS 8 (well, usually runs CentOS 8, but not now, since it does not boot 
> ... :=>

The affected machine running CentOS 8 boots fine after upgrading to shim 15.15

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread david










> I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream updates.

OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you should see
an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:

PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm

For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:

x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm

You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
install every file.

Please report both positive and negative results.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

I updated my Centos 7, and it's awaiting a reboot.  The version of 
shim says 15-7, which I presume is the bad one.


What do I need to do?  Obviously, a reboot will encounter the 
failure.  Or, should I perform "yum update" periodically and wait for 
shim 15-8 to appear, and only after that do the reboot?  Or is there 
some other remedy?


And by the way, I'm amazed at the speed with which this problem was 
addressed and a fix provided.  You guys work wonders.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Marc Balmer via CentOS


> Am 02.08.2020 um 14:34 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
> 
> On 8/2/20 6:59 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>> On 8/2/20 2:04 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>>> 
>>> Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:
 On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
> At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>> Hi Johnny,
>> thank you very much for clarification.
>> 
>> You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
>> problem.
>> What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
>> configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
>> random?
>> 
>> Thank you
> 
> I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini
> and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So
> perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I
> can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to
> boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the
> systems from scratch.
> 
> 
 
 You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode,
 and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.
 
 -Greg
 
>>> I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all
>>> selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and
>>> the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".
>> 
>> Ok .. We are running through some final testing now for CentOS Linux 8
>> and CentOS Stream .. updates later today for EL8.
>> 
>> For CentOS Linux 7 .. I just pushed the latest shim packages (we had to
>> get these signed by Microsoft .. as do all distros that do shim.
>> Microsoft is the official CA for secureboot.
>> 
>> So in the next few hours, after the mirrors sync up .. you should be
>> able to fix any EL7 machines.
>> 
>> I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream updates.
> 
> OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you should see
> an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:
> 
> PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
> BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
> 
> For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:
> 
> x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
> x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
> x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
> x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 
> You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
> install every file.
> 
> Please report both positive and negative results.

A previously afftected Aures nino POS-terminal boots just fine with CentOS 7 
and shim 15.8.

Now I will test an affected machine (Aures Twist POS terminal) that runs CentOS 
8 (well, usually runs CentOS 8, but not now, since it does not boot ... :=>

> 
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
> 
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 6:59 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 8/2/20 2:04 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>>
>> Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:
>>> On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
 At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Hi Johnny,
> thank you very much for clarification.
>
> You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
> problem.
> What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
> configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
> random?
>
> Thank you

 I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini
 and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So
 perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I
 can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to
 boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the
 systems from scratch.


>>>
>>> You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode,
>>> and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>> I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all
>> selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and
>> the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".
> 
> Ok .. We are running through some final testing now for CentOS Linux 8
> and CentOS Stream .. updates later today for EL8.
> 
> For CentOS Linux 7 .. I just pushed the latest shim packages (we had to
> get these signed by Microsoft .. as do all distros that do shim.
> Microsoft is the official CA for secureboot.
> 
> So in the next few hours, after the mirrors sync up .. you should be
> able to fix any EL7 machines.
> 
> I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream updates.

OK .. I have also now pushed the CentOS Linux 8 update .. you should see
an update to SHIM .. the new versions are:

PowerTools/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el8.x86_64.rpm
BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-ia32-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm
BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/shim-x64-15-15.el8_2.x86_64.rpm

For CentOS Linux 7 .. the new files are:

x86_64/Packages/mokutil-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-ia32-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-unsigned-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm
x86_64/Packages/shim-x64-15-8.el7.x86_64.rpm

You need only replace the files you currently have installed, not
install every file.

Please report both positive and negative results.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 7:06 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Sun, 2 Aug 2020 06:59:06 -0500 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/20 2:04 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>>>
>>> Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:
 On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
> At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>> Hi Johnny,
>> thank you very much for clarification.
>>
>> You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
>> problem.
>> What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
>> configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
>> random?
>>
>> Thank you
>
> I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini
> and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days 
> ago.  So
> perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I
> can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to
> boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the
> systems from scratch.
>
>

 You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode,
 and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.

 -Greg

>>> I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all
>>> selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and
>>> the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".
>>
>> Ok .. We are running through some final testing now for CentOS Linux 8
>> and CentOS Stream .. updates later today for EL8.
>>
>> For CentOS Linux 7 .. I just pushed the latest shim packages (we had to
>> get these signed by Microsoft .. as do all distros that do shim.
>> Microsoft is the official CA for secureboot.
>>
>> So in the next few hours, after the mirrors sync up .. you should be
>> able to fix any EL7 machines.
> 
> Question: is this only a problem for bare metal w/EFI or are VMs affected?  I 
> have a VPS running CentOS 7:
> 
> sharky4.deepsoft.com% uname -a
> Linux sharky4.deepsoft.com 3.10.0-1127.13.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 23 
> 15:46:38 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> sharky4.deepsoft.com% rpm -qa grub\* shim\*
> grub2-tools-extra-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
> grub2-pc-modules-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.noarch
> grub2-tools-minimal-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
> grub2-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
> grub2-tools-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
> grubby-8.28-26.el7.x86_64
> grub2-common-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.noarch
> grub2-pc-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
> sharky4.deepsoft.com% 
> 
> I have these (pending) updates:
> 
> sharky4.deepsoft.com% sudo /usr/bin/yum check-update
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * base: mirror.es.its.nyu.edu
>   * epel: mirror.math.princeton.edu
>* extras: mirror.facebook.net
> * updates: mirror.atlanticmetro.net
> 
> fail2ban.noarch  0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
> fail2ban-firewalld.noarch0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
> fail2ban-sendmail.noarch 0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
> fail2ban-server.noarch   0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
> fail2ban-systemd.noarch  0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
> grub2.x86_64 1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-common.noarch  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-pc.x86_64  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-pc-modules.noarch  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-tools.x86_64   1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-tools-extra.x86_64 1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> grub2-tools-minimal.x86_64   1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
> kernel.x86_643.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
> kernel-headers.x86_643.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
> kernel-tools.x86_64  3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
> kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
> python-perf.x86_64   3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
> 
> Is it "safe" for me to to do a yum update or should I wait?
> 
> 
> 

This shim issue should only impact cold iron machines with secureboot
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 2 Aug 2020 06:59:06 -0500 CentOS mailing list  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 8/2/20 2:04 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> > 
> > Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:
> >> On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
> >>> At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>  Hi Johnny,
>  thank you very much for clarification.
> 
>  You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
>  problem.
>  What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
>  configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
>  random?
> 
>  Thank you
> >>>
> >>> I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini
> >>> and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days 
> >>> ago.  So
> >>> perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I
> >>> can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to
> >>> boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the
> >>> systems from scratch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode,
> >> and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >>
> > I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all
> > selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and
> > the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".
> 
> Ok .. We are running through some final testing now for CentOS Linux 8
> and CentOS Stream .. updates later today for EL8.
> 
> For CentOS Linux 7 .. I just pushed the latest shim packages (we had to
> get these signed by Microsoft .. as do all distros that do shim.
> Microsoft is the official CA for secureboot.
> 
> So in the next few hours, after the mirrors sync up .. you should be
> able to fix any EL7 machines.

Question: is this only a problem for bare metal w/EFI or are VMs affected?  I 
have a VPS running CentOS 7:

sharky4.deepsoft.com% uname -a
Linux sharky4.deepsoft.com 3.10.0-1127.13.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 23 
15:46:38 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
sharky4.deepsoft.com% rpm -qa grub\* shim\*
grub2-tools-extra-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
grub2-pc-modules-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.noarch
grub2-tools-minimal-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
grub2-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
grub2-tools-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
grubby-8.28-26.el7.x86_64
grub2-common-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.noarch
grub2-pc-2.02-0.81.el7.centos.x86_64
sharky4.deepsoft.com% 

I have these (pending) updates:

sharky4.deepsoft.com% sudo /usr/bin/yum check-update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.es.its.nyu.edu
  * epel: mirror.math.princeton.edu
   * extras: mirror.facebook.net
* updates: mirror.atlanticmetro.net

fail2ban.noarch  0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
fail2ban-firewalld.noarch0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
fail2ban-sendmail.noarch 0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
fail2ban-server.noarch   0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
fail2ban-systemd.noarch  0.11.1-9.el7.2epel   
grub2.x86_64 1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-common.noarch  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-pc.x86_64  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-pc-modules.noarch  1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-tools.x86_64   1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-tools-extra.x86_64 1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
grub2-tools-minimal.x86_64   1:2.02-0.86.el7.centosupdates
kernel.x86_643.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
kernel-headers.x86_643.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
kernel-tools.x86_64  3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates
python-perf.x86_64   3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7  updates

Is it "safe" for me to to do a yum update or should I wait?



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/2/20 2:04 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> 
> Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:
>> On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
>>> At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
 Hi Johnny,
 thank you very much for clarification.

 You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
 problem.
 What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
 configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
 random?

 Thank you
>>>
>>> I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini
>>> and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So
>>> perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I
>>> can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to
>>> boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the
>>> systems from scratch.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode,
>> and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.
>>
>> -Greg
>>
> I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all
> selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and
> the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".

Ok .. We are running through some final testing now for CentOS Linux 8
and CentOS Stream .. updates later today for EL8.

For CentOS Linux 7 .. I just pushed the latest shim packages (we had to
get these signed by Microsoft .. as do all distros that do shim.
Microsoft is the official CA for secureboot.

So in the next few hours, after the mirrors sync up .. you should be
able to fix any EL7 machines.

I'll post here again once we have pushed the EL8 and CentOS Stream updates.



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-02 Thread Alessandro Baggi


Il 01/08/20 22:03, Greg Bailey ha scritto:

On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:

At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the 
problem.

What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is 
random?


Thank you


I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini 
and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So 
perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I 
can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to 
boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the 
systems from scratch.





You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode, 
and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.


-Greg

I did the downgrade on a fresh install of c8.2 but yum said that all 
selected packages (grub2,shim...) are already to the lowest version and 
the downgrade is not possibile, ending with "nothing to do".



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Strahil Nikolov via CentOS
Don't forget that EL 7 (non-UEFI systems) & 8 support booting from LVM snapshot 
(a.k.a BOOM Boot Manager) , so revert is 2  steps away:
- boot from the snapshot (grub menu)
- revert from the lvm snapshot
- reboot  and wait for the revert to complete


Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov

На 1 август 2020 г. 23:58:27 GMT+03:00, david  написа:
>At 01:03 PM 8/1/2020, you wrote:
>>On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:
>>>At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the
>problem.
What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a
>particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is
>random?

Thank you
>>>
>>>I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple 
>>>hardware (one mac-mini and one mac 
>>>server).  They both failed to reboot a few 
>>>days ago.  So perhaps whatever anti-boot bug 
>>>hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I can't tell 
>>>what version got updated since the system 
>>>simply fails to boot.  I don't even get a grub 
>>>screen. I'll have to rebuild the systems from scratch.
>>>
>>
>>You should be able to boot off of installation 
>>media into rescue mode, and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.
>>
>>-Greg
>
>This is a good idea, if I knew how to 
>"downgrade...".  But in any event, I had decided 
>to rebuild from scratch, which of course failed 
>as soon as I did an yum update.  So, I'm 
>installing 7.8.2003 with no updates until I see 
>the "all clear -- updates will no longer make 
>your system unbootable" message from the Centos team.
>
>In my many years of blindly updating my 
>installations, starting from the free Redhat 
>distributions, through Whitehat and onto Centos, 
>this is the first disaster, and luckily, it 
>didn't hit all my systems.  Let's hope there aren't many more.
>
>David 
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread david

At 01:03 PM 8/1/2020, you wrote:

On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:

At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the problem.
What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is random?

Thank you


I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple 
hardware (one mac-mini and one mac 
server).  They both failed to reboot a few 
days ago.  So perhaps whatever anti-boot bug 
hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I can't tell 
what version got updated since the system 
simply fails to boot.  I don't even get a grub 
screen. I'll have to rebuild the systems from scratch.




You should be able to boot off of installation 
media into rescue mode, and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.


-Greg


This is a good idea, if I knew how to 
"downgrade...".  But in any event, I had decided 
to rebuild from scratch, which of course failed 
as soon as I did an yum update.  So, I'm 
installing 7.8.2003 with no updates until I see 
the "all clear -- updates will no longer make 
your system unbootable" message from the Centos team.


In my many years of blindly updating my 
installations, starting from the free Redhat 
distributions, through Whitehat and onto Centos, 
this is the first disaster, and luckily, it 
didn't hit all my systems.  Let's hope there aren't many more.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Greg Bailey

On 8/1/20 6:56 AM, david wrote:

At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the 
problem.

What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is 
random?


Thank you


I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini 
and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So 
perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I 
can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to 
boot.  I don't even get a grub screen. I'll have to rebuild the 
systems from scratch.





You should be able to boot off of installation media into rescue mode, 
and downgrade the grub2* and/or shim* RPMs.


-Greg


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread david

At 02:54 AM 8/1/2020, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the problem.
What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is random?

Thank you


I have two servers running Centos 7 on apple hardware (one mac-mini 
and one mac server).  They both failed to reboot a few days ago.  So 
perhaps whatever anti-boot bug hit Centos 8, also hit Centos 7.  I 
can't tell what version got updated since the system simply fails to 
boot.  I don't even get a grub screen.  I'll have to rebuild the 
systems from scratch.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Strahil Nikolov via CentOS
I got 5 CentOS 8.1 VMs minimal  install.
When I did the update I got 1 that had dnf issues and corrupted rpm DB and 
another 1  that didn't boot.
Restore from snapshot and again update -> no issues. For me it looks more like 
a random issue.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov

На 1 август 2020 г. 18:28:09 GMT+03:00, Lamar Owen  написа:
>On 8/1/20 11:02 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> ...
>> [lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 147
>> kernel-devel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
>> kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
>> kernel-modules-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
>> kernel-core-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
>> [lowen@localhost ~]$ 
>
>Well, I sure fat-fingered that command let's try it again:
>
>[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 193.14
>kernel-headers-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-devel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-modules-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-tools-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-core-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-tools-libs-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>kernel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
>[lowen@localhost ~]$ uname -a
>Linux localhost.localdomain 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul
>
>26 03:54:29 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>[lowen@localhost ~]$
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Thomas Stephen Lee
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:58 PM Lamar Owen  wrote:

> On 8/1/20 11:02 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > ...
> > [lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 147
> > kernel-devel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
> > kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
> > kernel-modules-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
> > kernel-core-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
> > [lowen@localhost ~]$
>
> Well, I sure fat-fingered that command let's try it again:
>
> [lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 193.14
> kernel-headers-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-devel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-modules-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-tools-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-core-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-tools-libs-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> kernel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
> [lowen@localhost ~]$ uname -a
> Linux localhost.localdomain 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul
> 26 03:54:29 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> [lowen@localhost ~]$
>
>
>
> RedHat fixes.

https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:3265
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen

On 8/1/20 11:02 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:

...
[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 147
kernel-devel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-modules-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-core-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
[lowen@localhost ~]$ 


Well, I sure fat-fingered that command let's try it again:

[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 193.14
kernel-headers-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-devel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-tools-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-core-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-tools-libs-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
kernel-4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64
[lowen@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 
26 03:54:29 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[lowen@localhost ~]$


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen

On 7/31/20 6:35 AM, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:

I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.

Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel 
4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank 
screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.


...
The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem 
and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the 
problem and have a fix at hand. 


I posted, on 7/30, to CentOS-devel the following after my similar 
experience (booting an mSATA SSD on my M6700, with two 2.5 SATA drives 
(a 1TB and a 2TB), and the mSATA is not /dev/sda on this hardware, FWIW):


"Moral of the story?  Have the install DVD on a USB stick and available 
to boot into rescue mode, know how to boot rescue mode (from the 
installer boot menu select 'troubleshooting' then 'rescue' and 
option 1 once the menu shows), know how to activate network interfaces 
in text mode (either nmcli or nmtui works fine for this), and know a few 
basic dnf commands.  And have an alternate means of doing basic web 
searches available; my android phone this morning was used for that."


I was able to recover with the install DVD on a USB stick and using 
rescue mode on a laptop with only WiFi (nmtui does a great job for this 
sort of thing, booted into rescue mode and chrooted onto /mnt/sysimage).


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen

On 8/1/20 5:54 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the problem.
What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is random?
I experienced the issue on a Dell Precision M6700 (UEFI, Core i7-3740QM) 
on the first attempt at update; I recovered by rolling back and 
reinstalling grub2-*; I then updated on the command line with dnf update 
and now that same hardware that crashed out the first time is working 
fine with the same package versions.  It seems to be intermittent, and I 
can't reproduce it.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Lamar Owen

On 8/1/20 5:00 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:


I would wait and install everything as a group. We should have 
something soon. 
First off, Johnny and all of the rest of the CentOS team, thank you for 
your efforts!


Second, to all with this problem, I too experienced the issue (I posted 
on the CentOS-Devel list my findings).  To those who seem to think more 
testing could have prevented the issue, let me just say that while the 
FIRST update to the new shim-x64, grub2, and kernel stack failed for me 
(and that update was done with the GUI updater that reboots for the 
actual update), I WAS able to recover using the install media's rescue 
mode tools as documented in my posts on CentOS-devel.  I'm glad to 
provide any and all logs of the processes I did, but the short of it is 
that after I successfully downgraded grub2 it still wouldn't boot, but I 
was able to do a reinstall of grub2 (81, the older version) to get it to 
boot with the old grub2, the new shim-x64, and the new kernel, and then 
I was able to successfully update grub2 with dnf on a command line.  So 
I have the following installed:

[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -q shim-x64
shim-x64-15-13.el8.x86_64
[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^grub2
grub2-common-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
grub2-tools-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-efi-x64-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-extra-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-pc-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-efi-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-tools-minimal-2.02-87.el8_2.x86_64
grub2-pc-modules-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
grub2-efi-x64-modules-2.02-87.el8_2.noarch
[lowen@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel|grep 147
kernel-devel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-modules-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
kernel-core-4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64
[lowen@localhost ~]$

And this is on a machine that previously crashed during boot with the 
exactly the same packages.  So even on the same hardware the same update 
(done a bit differently) had different results.


It's quite possible, based on my experience with this particular issue, 
that if I had the whole system rolled back to where it was before the 
GUI update and if I then updated it again that it could just simply work 
ok afterwards.  It's very hard to test for intermittent issues!




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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Hi Johnny,
thank you very much for clarification.

You said that in the centos infrastructure only one server got the problem.
What are the conditions that permit the breakage? There is a particular
configuration (hw/sw) case that match always the problem or it is random?

Thank you

Il Sab 1 Ago 2020, 05:20 Johnny Hughes  ha scritto:

> On 7/31/20 11:24 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> >
> > Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:
> >> On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:
> >>> I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.
> >>>
> >>> Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
> >>> 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank
> >>> screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.
> >>>
> >>> After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition
> >>> (containing older software) and boot it from there.
> >>>
> >>> After that, I  found out it is a known problem.
> >>>
> >>> The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem
> >>> and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the
> >>> problem and have a fix at hand.
> >>>
> >>> See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and directions
> >>> to the redhat article.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >> I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.
> >>
> > Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.
> >
> > Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them
> > in the update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the
> > mainstream chains and how a package like grub reached the update repo
> > when it has serious problem (genuine curiosity but not to blame them).
>
> Of course it was tested before it was pushed. Obviously this is not a
> problem with every install.  Surely you don't think we push items
> without doing any testing.  Certainly not items as important as this
> update.
>
>  The CentOS infrastructure has hundreds of servers, most of them were
> not impacted (as an example). In fact, we seem to have had this happen
> on only one machine in those hundreds so far.  It is a problem, obviously.
>
> The issue seems to be with the shim package (not the grub or kernel
> packages) and we are currently working with Red Hat on a fix.  This
> issue happened in many Linux OSes and even Windows, not just RHEL and
> CentOS.
>
> We will push a fix as soon as one is available.
>
> I would hold off on installing this until we release the new fixes.
>
> >
> > In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does
> > not work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version
> > and that the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.
>
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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/1/20 1:59 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> ...
>>
>> The issue seems to be with the shim package (not the grub or kernel
>> packages) and we are currently working with Red Hat on a fix.  This
>> issue happened in many Linux OSes and even Windows, not just RHEL and
>> CentOS.
>>
>> We will push a fix as soon as one is available.
>>
>> I would hold off on installing this until we release the new fixes.
>>
> 
> On a system that does not use any of the shim packages, would you
> recommend updating the grub2 and mokutil packages or holding off?
> 
> Jon
> 

I would wait and install everything as a group.  We should have
something soon.



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-08-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
...
> 
> The issue seems to be with the shim package (not the grub or kernel
> packages) and we are currently working with Red Hat on a fix.  This
> issue happened in many Linux OSes and even Windows, not just RHEL and
> CentOS.
> 
> We will push a fix as soon as one is available.
> 
> I would hold off on installing this until we release the new fixes.
> 

On a system that does not use any of the shim packages, would you
recommend updating the grub2 and mokutil packages or holding off?

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread Mark LaPierre

On 7/31/20 11:20 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 7/31/20 11:24 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:


Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:

On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:

I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.

Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank
screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.

After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition
(containing older software) and boot it from there.

After that, I  found out it is a known problem.

The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem
and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the
problem and have a fix at hand.

See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and directions
to the redhat article.

Regards

Alan


I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.


Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.

Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them
in the update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the
mainstream chains and how a package like grub reached the update repo
when it has serious problem (genuine curiosity but not to blame them).


Of course it was tested before it was pushed. Obviously this is not a
problem with every install.  Surely you don't think we push items
without doing any testing.  Certainly not items as important as this update.

  The CentOS infrastructure has hundreds of servers, most of them were
not impacted (as an example). In fact, we seem to have had this happen
on only one machine in those hundreds so far.  It is a problem, obviously.

The issue seems to be with the shim package (not the grub or kernel
packages) and we are currently working with Red Hat on a fix.  This
issue happened in many Linux OSes and even Windows, not just RHEL and
CentOS.

We will push a fix as soon as one is available.

I would hold off on installing this until we release the new fixes.



In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does
not work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version
and that the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.




It tanked my machine.  I managed to get it to boot into emergency mode 
where I eventually got it to boot on an old kernel as shown in the paste 
below.  After getting it to boot I used grubby to set the default kernel 
to the oldest one on the machine.  Surprisingly enough neither of the 
two most recent kernels would boot even though the machine was running 
on the second oldest kernel when I ran the update that tanked it.  That 
adds credence to the comment above that the problem was not the new 
kernel since it trashed both the new kernel and the one before.  Both 
were from the same series.  The 147 kernel works but neither of newer 
ones would.


CentOS Linux release 8.2.2004 (Core)

enp5s0 IP Address = 192.168.15.131

Linux localhost.localdomain 4.18.0-147.8.1.el8_1.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 9 
13:49:54 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


 Number of cores = 32
 00:55:13 up  8:37,  1 user,  load average: 0.31, 0.48, 0.44

amdgpu-pci-0900
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:   +0.83 V
fan1: 771 RPM  (min =0 RPM, max = 3700 RPM)
temp1:+45.0°C  (crit = +94.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1:   31.07 W  (cap = 125.00 W)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:+16.8°C  (crit = +20.8°C)
temp2:+16.8°C  (crit = +20.8°C)

amdgpu-pci-0400
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:   +0.72 V
fan1: 768 RPM  (min =0 RPM, max = 3700 RPM)
temp1:+39.0°C  (crit = +94.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1:   30.10 W  (cap = 125.00 W)



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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/31/20 11:24 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> 
> Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:
>> On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:
>>> I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.
>>>
>>> Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
>>> 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank
>>> screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.
>>>
>>> After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition
>>> (containing older software) and boot it from there.
>>>
>>> After that, I  found out it is a known problem.
>>>
>>> The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem
>>> and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the
>>> problem and have a fix at hand.
>>>
>>> See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and directions
>>> to the redhat article.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>> I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.
>>
> Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.
> 
> Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them
> in the update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the
> mainstream chains and how a package like grub reached the update repo
> when it has serious problem (genuine curiosity but not to blame them).

Of course it was tested before it was pushed. Obviously this is not a
problem with every install.  Surely you don't think we push items
without doing any testing.  Certainly not items as important as this update.

 The CentOS infrastructure has hundreds of servers, most of them were
not impacted (as an example). In fact, we seem to have had this happen
on only one machine in those hundreds so far.  It is a problem, obviously.

The issue seems to be with the shim package (not the grub or kernel
packages) and we are currently working with Red Hat on a fix.  This
issue happened in many Linux OSes and even Windows, not just RHEL and
CentOS.

We will push a fix as soon as one is available.

I would hold off on installing this until we release the new fixes.

> 
> In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does
> not work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version
> and that the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.




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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread Alessandro Baggi

I would add,

RedHat is recomending also to blacklist grub, shim and mokutil in 
yum.conf until the problem is resolved.


Il 31/07/20 18:26, Laack, Andrea P ha scritto:

RedHat is recommending not to patch.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/5272311

Andrea

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Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:

On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:

I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.

Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank
screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.

After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition
(containing older software) and boot it from there.

After that, I  found out it is a known problem.

The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem
and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the
problem and have a fix at hand.

See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and
directions to the redhat article.

Regards

Alan


I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.


Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.

Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them in the 
update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the mainstream chains and 
how a package like grub reached the update repo when it has serious problem 
(genuine curiosity but not to blame them).

In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does not 
work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version and that 
the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread Laack, Andrea P
RedHat is recommending not to patch.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/5272311

Andrea

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Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:
> On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:
>> I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.
>>
>> Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
>> 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank 
>> screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.
>>
>> After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition 
>> (containing older software) and boot it from there.
>>
>> After that, I  found out it is a known problem.
>>
>> The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem 
>> and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the 
>> problem and have a fix at hand.
>>
>> See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and 
>> directions to the redhat article.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alan
>>
> I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.
>
Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.

Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them in the 
update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the mainstream chains and 
how a package like grub reached the update repo when it has serious problem 
(genuine curiosity but not to blame them).

In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does not 
work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version and that 
the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.

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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 31/07/20 13:08, ja ha scritto:

On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:

I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.

Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel
4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank
screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.

After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition
(containing older software) and boot it from there.

After that, I  found out it is a known problem.

The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem
and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the
problem and have a fix at hand.

See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and directions
to the redhat article.

Regards

Alan


I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.


Me too. Luckily it happened on a test machine.

Sorry but seems that those packages were not tested before pushing them 
in the update repo. Would be great to know what happened to the 
mainstream chains and how a package like grub reached the update repo 
when it has serious problem (genuine curiosity but not to blame them).


In my case, the restore procedure reported by RH in case of reboot does 
not work and reports that the packages are already at the lowest version 
and that the downgrade is not possibile. I don't know why.


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Re: [CentOS] 8.2.2004 Latest yum update renders machine unbootable

2020-07-31 Thread ja
On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 22:35 +1200, Alan McRae via CentOS wrote:
> I am running an Intel x64 machine using UEFI to boot an SSD.
> 
> Installing the latest yum update which includes grub2 and kernel 
> 4.18.0-193.14.2.el8_2.x86_64 renders the machine unbootable, blank 
> screen where grub should be, no error messages, just hangs.
> 
> After some hours I managed to modify another bootable partition 
> (containing older software) and boot it from there.
> 
> After that, I  found out it is a known problem.
> 
> The main point of this message is to make people aware of the problem 
> and suggest admins don't run 'yum update' until they understand the 
> problem and have a fix at hand.
> 
> See 'UEFI boot blank screen post update' for a solution and directions 
> to the redhat article.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alan
> 
I have been punished by this bug - it is/was very nasty.

I will chase up your reference but attach my trouble shooting
in case its useful to anyone

John
31.07.2020

Tried, successfully, to fix the boot problems on maui (Centos 7.8)

To get maui to boot at all an F32 USB stick was used
and the first F32 boot option edited for every boot attempt.

The changes required are summarised below.
insmod part_gpt
insmod ext2
linux (hd2, gpt3)/vm ... 18 ... root=/dev/sda5
iinitrd (hd2, gpt3)/initramfs ... 18 ...

The above booted OK with a 90 second delay if /global & /home SSDs were not 
plugged in.
fstab was subsequently edited and the nfs related entries temporarily commented 
out.
//---
The following rpms were reinstalled - it is not known if this was necessary - 
probably not.
grub2-efi-x64
efibootmgr
efivar-libs
fwupdate-efi
shim-x64

grub.cfg was re-created but has never been used.
grub2-mkconfig -o ~/grub.cfg_post_2020_07_30

cp /boot/efi/EFI/centos/grub.cfg /boot/efi/EFI/centos/grub.cfg_pre_2020_07_30

The old grub.cfg has not been over written yet as the boot does not get that 
far!
//---
The use of efibootmgr was investigated and a corrupt looking entry removed.
A new entry was also created.

efibootmgr -v   To list entries
efiboot mgr -b 2 -B 2   To remove entry 2 say
efibootmgr -t 10To increase time to edit
efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p1 -L ja_C7 -l '\EFI\centos\grubx64.efi'

-c  create new entry
-d  Device
-p  vfat partition number
-L  Label
-l  boot loader

The choice for the "boot loader" option would seem to be
shimx64.efi
shimx64-centos.efi
shim.efi
grubx64.efi
Which version is correct is unknown, but '\EFI\centos\grubx64.efi' was the 
first tried and works!

The resultant entries look like this:

[root@maui:/boot/efi/EFI/centos]$ efibootmgr -v
BootCurrent: 0006
Timeout: 10 seconds
BootOrder: 0002,0001,,0005,0006
Boot* Fedora
HD(2,GPT,7c336c1e-9b29-4297-9b6f-ad7afc651a43,0x1000,0x20)/File(\EFI\FEDORA\SHIMX64.EFI)
Boot0001* Fedora
HD(2,GPT,7c336c1e-9b29-4297-9b6f-ad7afc651a43,0x1000,0x20)/File(\EFI\FEDORA\shimx64.efi)
Boot0002* ja_C7 
HD(1,GPT,751f986e-faf4-407e-9db0-caef0c8cd546,0x800,0x64000)/File(\EFI\centos\grubx64.efi)
Boot0005* UEFI OS   
HD(1,GPT,751f986e-faf4-407e-9db0-caef0c8cd546,0x800,0x64000)/File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI)..BO
Boot0006* UEFI OS   
HD(2,GPT,7c336c1e-9b29-4297-9b6f-ad7afc651a43,0x1000,0x20)/File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI)..BO

Conclusion

The above restored maui to a normal boot state.
It is probable that the "EFI BIOS" became corrupted somehow.
The file \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI in menu entry 5 does exist but this option has 
not been tested yet!


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