Re: Patch/update 9.0 help

2014-03-25 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

Yeah, I was able to restore the VM backup that was made earlier in the day.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Carl Von Stetten
vonner.li...@vonner.netwrote:


 Did you do a backup of your computer before the upgrade so you can
 revert?  If so, take a look at the Unofficial Updater 2
 http://www.uu-2.info/ to make the patching process a bit easier.

 -Carl V.

 On 3/21/2014 4:49 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
  Awesome.  Ran the 9.01 updater and the CF service won't restart now.
  This
  is why I don't update unless I have to.
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk
 wrote:
 
 


 

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Printing barcode labels from CF

2014-03-25 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

I'm building a membership system where I will need to print barcode labels
(Code128) from a CF app.  I've got the barcode creation down (using a
JQuery plugin), but haven't started the label creation piece.  I was
thinking of using CSS + cfdocument, but am concerned that PDF's crappy
support of CSS will cause me trouble.  Has anyone else done something like
this?  What do I need to look out for?

Thanks

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RE: Printing barcode labels from CF

2014-03-25 Thread David Phelan

A number of years ago I accomplished a similar need through the utilization of 
a client side print ocx which allowed the user to select a printer to be used 
for label printing.  Once they selected the printer, I was able to manipulate 
the required settings and query paper size information that I would pass back 
to my label designer and return the HTML that I would then send to the printer. 
 It worked beautifully and the clients loved it.

I do not remember the name of the control, but it was a commercial ocx.  Our 
clients did a lot of label printing so installing the ocx was not an issue for 
them.  I do not know how if you are intending for the client to print barcodes 
or not, but if this will be an administrative function it might be something to 
consider.

David Phelan
Web Developer
IT Security  Web Technologies

Emerging Health
Montefiore Information Technology
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914-457-6465 Office
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From: Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:23 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Printing barcode labels from CF

I'm building a membership system where I will need to print barcode labels
(Code128) from a CF app.  I've got the barcode creation down (using a
JQuery plugin), but haven't started the label creation piece.  I was
thinking of using CSS + cfdocument, but am concerned that PDF's crappy
support of CSS will cause me trouble.  Has anyone else done something like
this?  What do I need to look out for?

Thanks

Pete




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Re: Printing barcode labels from CF

2014-03-25 Thread Chester Austin

Yay! I'm useful for something.  I have much experience with barcodes printing.  
Part of the system I work on includes creating barcodes for E-Tickets to be 
used for admission to amusement parks.

A couple resources for you to use: http://cfbarbecue.riaforge.org/. It's a CF 
wrapper to a Java library that can create images of barcodes.  Once you install 
it into your CF server (copy some files to a directory, restart CF), you can 
call the component to create a CFIMAGE and it will spit out a PNG or JPG or 
what ever other format it supported.

If you're planning on creating a PDF, a couple things you'll have to remember: 
CFIMAGE and CFDOCUMENT uses an HTTP call to generate those files (or something 
like that).  You'll have to either A) edit your host files to accept your 
domain B) reference the image using file:\\\. 
http://www.ravenglass.com/blog/index.cfm/2010/6/9/Including-Images-in-a-PDF-created-in-CFDOCUMENT
  
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10637542/coldfusion-cfdocument-creates-a-red-x

It isn't as complicated as it sounds, just a couple gotcha's you have to be 
prepared for.  Hope that helps.

I'm building a membership system where I will need to print barcode labels
(Code128) from a CF app.  I've got the barcode creation down (using a
JQuery plugin), but haven't started the label creation piece.  I was
thinking of using CSS + cfdocument, but am concerned that PDF's crappy
support of CSS will cause me trouble.  Has anyone else done something like
this?  What do I need to look out for?

Thanks

Pete 

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Re: Printing barcode labels from CF

2014-03-25 Thread Akos Fortagh

Sorry if I misunderstand the issue.  I've used cfbarbecue 
http://cfbarbecue.riaforge.org/ in a number of apps with no problems.
It simply uses cfimage to print the barcode to the screen. I opened that 
document in a small window and sent it to label printer using JS window.print().
Then using any label printer I have been able to print the barcode perfectly.
HTH

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Re: Displaying page loading message

2014-03-25 Thread funand learning

thank you Jonah. Your solution helped


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:00 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote:


 Display a page with the loading message then a client-side (meta or
 js) redirect to the slow page.

 On 3/24/14 1:53 PM, fun and learning wrote:
  All,
 
  I have an issue with displaying a page loading message on a page with
 heavy database queries. My page has two frames, and I am trying to display
 loading message on the second frame. I am using cfflush to show the loading
 message but to no avail. The frame looks blank for 15 seconds and then
 loading message as well as data is displayed.
 
  Can anyone advice what is the best approach to resolve this?
 
 
 

 

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Re: Printing barcode labels from CF

2014-03-25 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

Thanks.  I think I'm going to try using CSS and print as an HTML file
first, and if I run into issues, I'll go with cfdocument.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Akos Fortagh akos.fort...@yahoo.comwrote:


 Sorry if I misunderstand the issue.  I've used cfbarbecue
 http://cfbarbecue.riaforge.org/ in a number of apps with no problems.
 It simply uses cfimage to print the barcode to the screen. I opened that
 document in a small window and sent it to label printer using JS
 window.print().
 Then using any label printer I have been able to print the barcode
 perfectly.
 HTH

 

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RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Good summary, Rick.  Aside from a few customers I still support I'm not
looking for more.

I found CF very easy to learn because it was a tag based system and I
already knew html, it felt familiar.  I can just about work out what's going
on in a piece of c++, for example, but it's so much easier in CF.

I'm strangely sad to leave CF behind, but nothing lasts forever.   I do feel
that if Adobe had supported the product and marketed it, it would have
lasted a little longer and been a lot more fun while it was in it's heyday.

One thing that I have noticed is often overlooked.  PHP developers generated
a LOT of pretty darn good open source applications.  CMS, countless
eCommerce apps, BBS/forums.  I often wonder why so little was done like this
by developers for CF.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca] 
Sent: 18 March 2014 17:53
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


I come from the days of Everyware and Pervasive using the Tango technology.
Same idea as CF being a tag-based language with an application server.
Tag-based is easier to learn and has many benefits.
When Macromedia bought CF, it was a God-send to integrate CF and Dreamweaver
together without having to use Homesite or the bulky Allaire CF editor.
Unfortunately, Macromedia bombed when it came to marketing Cold Fusion.
Remember Ultradev? Macromedia's response to a WYSIWYG java, html, database
application which was supposed to replace Dreamweaver? Macromedia focused
too much on Ultradev and ignored the much needed CF marketing.

Fast forward to Adobe (The document and printing solutions company) with
failing web products to buy Macromedia. Like everyone, I was hoping for a
re-brand of CF. Nothing happened. They never marketed it. At a trade show in
New York (Internet World) I went to the Adobe booth. No one wanted to talk
about CF, and there was one brochure with a paragraph mentioning CF that's
it.
Adobe came out with Cold Fusion Builder which is sort of nifty, but not
nearly as good as Dreamweaver for building CF websites. Now Adobe is pushing
their Creative Cloud (copying Office 365 are we?) which I would never use
because of the continuous hacks to Adobe's servers and private information
breaches.

So what are the alternatives? PhP. Not secure, messy code, can't load
balance between multiple servers unless you BUY an app server for it. Most
PhP hosters throw the web server, database server and email server on the
same box and call it a day. I programmed PhP code for a year and will never
do it again. The problems with hacking, SQL injection attacks, URL hacks
etc... take up time to fix at the developer's expense. PhP, Linux, MYSQL,
Cpanel, Wordpress Joomla and many others are free. You get what you pay for.
A proper coded CF site won't get hacked if the code is well written and the
server is configured properly.

There's ASP.net but personally I don't want to program something for 3
months in .NET that takes 3 weeks in CF. Plus Microsoft changes things
around way too much, and Visual Studio is stupid expensive. Sure there's
Expression web (does anyone really use it?) and some plugins for
Dreamweaver. There's Dot Net Nuke if you have lots of time on your hands
too. Most of my clients don't want to wait. And .NET developers are the
snobs of the development community expecting high hourly rates. Content
Management Server was a nice touch if you had deep pockets and lots of staff
to maintain multiple servers but Microsoft did away with that too.

Is CF dying? It is dying a slow death in my opinion. Adobe has dropped the
ball with marketing. Heck, they don't even use it on their own site! PhP is
the internet king for programming, and Wordpress is keeping developers
making thousands of plugins for it. In the technical colleges and
universities they teach PhP, Java, and .NET. New developers aren't even
exposed to CF anymore. When you say Adobe, the first 2 things that come to
mind are PDF and Photoshop.

I'll continue to use CF for as long as I can, then just leave the web
development game since the only player is PhP and I don't have the time nor
desire to get into that technology.

Kind Regards,

Rick Sanders
T: 902-401-7689
W: www.webenergy.ca



-Original Message-
From: Jon Clausen [mailto:jon_clau...@silowebworks.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:32 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Adam Cameron dacc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tag-based code is godawful anywhere other than in a view, or some 
 other situation in which text-processing is needed. Which does not 
 describe an awful lot of CFML code out there.
 
 That Macromedia/Adobe pushed the tag side of CFML over the script side 
 is probably the worst strategic move they ever made.

Agree, now.  I think at that moment in webdev history, it served a purpose,
which was ease of entry in to development.  Now, it's a liability, seems

RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+1

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 17 March 2014 22:40
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


CF should install locked down out of the box, there really should be no need
to follow a complex lockdown guide to make it secure.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Justin Scott
leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:


  On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if 
  its not safe?

 Layers... it's all about layers.  If a vulnerability is found in the 
 CF admin or some other exposed piece, you don't want an attacker to be 
 able to take over the whole operating system.  The lockdown guide 
 shows you how to configure everything around CF so that in the event 
 of a breach you're not letting it be a path into your entire server.
 Many of the vulnerabilities found in CF wouldn't be a big deal if 
 people configured the server CF runs on in a more secure manner.  This 
 is the whole reason the credit cards companies bang the PCI-DSS drum 
 so hard... they want multiple layers of security and access controls 
 so that the failure of any one of those layers will not leave the 
 entire system out in the open.


 -Justin

 



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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

And why is it such a pain in the rear to keep CF up to date/patched?  

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 and then when their site gets owned, CF gets the blame.

On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if its not
safe?




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RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Russ Michaels

I think that comes down to the fact that cf itself was not free so did not
encourage the development of foss. They all wanted to make money from their
work.
It also comes down to sheer number of developers I think, which encourages
collaboration,  which was also lacking in cf land.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
cfmldeveloper.com
cflive.net
cfsearch.com
On 26 Mar 2014 00:56, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
wrote:


 Good summary, Rick.  Aside from a few customers I still support I'm not
 looking for more.

 I found CF very easy to learn because it was a tag based system and I
 already knew html, it felt familiar.  I can just about work out what's
 going
 on in a piece of c++, for example, but it's so much easier in CF.

 I'm strangely sad to leave CF behind, but nothing lasts forever.   I do
 feel
 that if Adobe had supported the product and marketed it, it would have
 lasted a little longer and been a lot more fun while it was in it's heyday.

 One thing that I have noticed is often overlooked.  PHP developers
 generated
 a LOT of pretty darn good open source applications.  CMS, countless
 eCommerce apps, BBS/forums.  I often wonder why so little was done like
 this
 by developers for CF.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca]
 Sent: 18 March 2014 17:53
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 I come from the days of Everyware and Pervasive using the Tango technology.
 Same idea as CF being a tag-based language with an application server.
 Tag-based is easier to learn and has many benefits.
 When Macromedia bought CF, it was a God-send to integrate CF and
 Dreamweaver
 together without having to use Homesite or the bulky Allaire CF editor.
 Unfortunately, Macromedia bombed when it came to marketing Cold Fusion.
 Remember Ultradev? Macromedia's response to a WYSIWYG java, html, database
 application which was supposed to replace Dreamweaver? Macromedia focused
 too much on Ultradev and ignored the much needed CF marketing.

 Fast forward to Adobe (The document and printing solutions company) with
 failing web products to buy Macromedia. Like everyone, I was hoping for a
 re-brand of CF. Nothing happened. They never marketed it. At a trade show
 in
 New York (Internet World) I went to the Adobe booth. No one wanted to talk
 about CF, and there was one brochure with a paragraph mentioning CF that's
 it.
 Adobe came out with Cold Fusion Builder which is sort of nifty, but not
 nearly as good as Dreamweaver for building CF websites. Now Adobe is
 pushing
 their Creative Cloud (copying Office 365 are we?) which I would never use
 because of the continuous hacks to Adobe's servers and private information
 breaches.

 So what are the alternatives? PhP. Not secure, messy code, can't load
 balance between multiple servers unless you BUY an app server for it. Most
 PhP hosters throw the web server, database server and email server on the
 same box and call it a day. I programmed PhP code for a year and will never
 do it again. The problems with hacking, SQL injection attacks, URL hacks
 etc... take up time to fix at the developer's expense. PhP, Linux, MYSQL,
 Cpanel, Wordpress Joomla and many others are free. You get what you pay
 for.
 A proper coded CF site won't get hacked if the code is well written and the
 server is configured properly.

 There's ASP.net but personally I don't want to program something for 3
 months in .NET that takes 3 weeks in CF. Plus Microsoft changes things
 around way too much, and Visual Studio is stupid expensive. Sure there's
 Expression web (does anyone really use it?) and some plugins for
 Dreamweaver. There's Dot Net Nuke if you have lots of time on your hands
 too. Most of my clients don't want to wait. And .NET developers are the
 snobs of the development community expecting high hourly rates. Content
 Management Server was a nice touch if you had deep pockets and lots of
 staff
 to maintain multiple servers but Microsoft did away with that too.

 Is CF dying? It is dying a slow death in my opinion. Adobe has dropped the
 ball with marketing. Heck, they don't even use it on their own site! PhP is
 the internet king for programming, and Wordpress is keeping developers
 making thousands of plugins for it. In the technical colleges and
 universities they teach PhP, Java, and .NET. New developers aren't even
 exposed to CF anymore. When you say Adobe, the first 2 things that come to
 mind are PDF and Photoshop.

 I'll continue to use CF for as long as I can, then just leave the web
 development game since the only player is PhP and I don't have the time nor
 desire to get into that technology.

 Kind Regards,

 Rick Sanders
 T: 902-401-7689
 W: www.webenergy.ca



 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Clausen [mailto:jon_clau...@silowebworks.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:32 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 On Mar 18, 2014, at 

Quick Survey

2014-03-25 Thread John M Bliss

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG

One question, You've used CFML as your primary source of income for one or
more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the following
because you believe it may be / become a better source of income?

Please let me know if this survey (or similar) has already been done in the
last six months or so.

I will share results next week.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG

-- 
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Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-25 Thread John M Bliss

P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey.  :-)

This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML
language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, which
one(s)?


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG

 One question, You've used CFML as your primary source of income for one
 or more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the
 following because you believe it may be / become a better source of income?

 Please let me know if this survey (or similar) has already been done in
 the last six months or so.

 I will share results next week.

 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG

 --
 John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss




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