Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Dave Watts

 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when
 Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then
 Homesite+

I know about it, because I used Homesite before Allaire bought it. I
switched from HotDog to Homesite before Allaire got involved. After
Allaire purchased Homesite, I'm not entirely sure whether they
continued to offer Homesite along with CF Studio, but I think they may
have. After the Macromedia acquisition, around the timeframe of the CF
6 release if I recall correctly, they dropped CF Studio in favor of
Homesite+ - which again was the same thing as CF Studio had been (RDS,
CF wizards, etc).

The Homesite product line (Homesite, CF Studio, Homesite+) were
written in Delphi, and I think no one at Macromedia really wanted to
support that once Nick Bradbury left.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

Wil,

I am not sadly misinformed at all.

Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively
in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged
it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the
free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do.

Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever.

So how is that misinformed?





Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote:


 Scott,

 You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold
 it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
 Editor.

 Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
 Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated
 with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts
 (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick
 Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to
 work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
 Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in
 2005.

 Even Wikipedia has it right
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite




 Wil Genovese

 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson

 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

  On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
  And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as
  Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
  wrote:
 
  I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
  when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and
 then
  Homesite+
 
  The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
  features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
  homesite+
 
  I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it.
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
 wrote:
 
 
  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
  brother was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
  My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
  long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.
 
  As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
  and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
  Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
  CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
  product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
  CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
  Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
  was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
  supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 
 
 
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  1-202-527-9569
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  http://training.figleaf.com/
 
  Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
  (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
  authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
wrote:

 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
 when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then
 Homesite+

 The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
 features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
 homesite+

 I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it.


 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother
 was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.

 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.

 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.


 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when
Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then
Homesite+

The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features.
When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+

I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it.


Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother
 was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.

 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.

 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.


 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as
Homesite Studio in 1996.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
wrote:

 Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995

 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:

 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
 when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then
 Homesite+

 The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
 features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
 homesite+

 I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it.


 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
 brother was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.

 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.

 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.


 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Wil Genovese

Scott,

You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to 
Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor.  

Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. 
Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In 
March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by 
brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined 
Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the 
CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired 
Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005.

Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite




Wil Genovese

One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. 

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote:
 
 
 And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as
 Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
 when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then
 Homesite+
 
 The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
 features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
 homesite+
 
 I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
 
 
 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
 brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.
 
 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 
 
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 
 
 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Dave Watts

 Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively
 in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged
 it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the
 free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do.

 Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
 HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever.

 So how is that misinformed?

Nick created Homesite long before TopStyle. TopStyle was a CSS editor
(thus the name, TopStyle, I guess). After he started with Allaire,
CF-specific functionality was added to give us CF Studio. Later on, CF
Studio was rebranded as Homesite+.

I defy you to find one feature in CF Studio that doesn't also exist in
Homesite+.

But you don't have to trust me, just go to Nick Bradbury's personal
site (http://nickbradbury.com/), where he describes himself:

I created HomeSite, TopStyle  FeedDemon for Windows and developed
the Android version of Glassboard. I'm now a mobile developer at
Automattic.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong
you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
wrote:

 Wil,

 I am not sadly misinformed at all.

 Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively
 in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged
 it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the
 free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do.

 Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
 HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever.

 So how is that misinformed?





 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
 wrote:


 Scott,

 You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold
 it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
 Editor.

 Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
 Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated
 with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts
 (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick
 Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to
 work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
 Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in
 2005.

 Even Wikipedia has it right
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite




 Wil Genovese

 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson

 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

  On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
  And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as
  Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
  wrote:
 
  Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
  when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and
 then
  Homesite+
 
  The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
  features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
  homesite+
 
  I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on
 it.
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
 wrote:
 
 
  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
  brother was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
  My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
  long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.
 
  As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
  and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
  Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
  CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
  product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality
 and
  CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
  Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
  was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was
 still
  supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 
 
 
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  1-202-527-9569
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  http://training.figleaf.com/
 
  Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
  (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
  authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Dave Watts

 hotdog? homesite? geez, kids today don't know how lucky they got it.

 hands up if you remember the 1st commercial windows webserver (hint it wasn't 
 IIS)?

In fairness, Bob Denny's WebSite Pro was around about the same time -
in fact, there was some sort of bundling available with it and CF from
O'Reilly - so if you remember HotDog and Homesite you probably
remember it too. I still have my WebSite Pro books - they were really
well written!

My first web site used WebSite Pro on NT 3.51, and CGI code written in
... Visual Basic. Good times!

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread M.A. Kruger

Andrew, 

I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. 
how could homesite be a later version of topstyle?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote:
 
 
 And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong
 you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 Wil,
 
 I am not sadly misinformed at all.
 
 Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively
 in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged
 it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the
 free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do.
 
 Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
 HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever.
 
 So how is that misinformed?
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Scott,
 
 You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold
 it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
 Editor.
 
 Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
 Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated
 with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts
 (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick
 Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to
 work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
 Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in
 2005.
 
 Even Wikipedia has it right
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite
 
 
 
 
 Wil Genovese
 
 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson
 
 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
 And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as
 Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995,
 when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and
 then
 Homesite+
 
 The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
 features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
 homesite+
 
 I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on
 it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
 wrote:
 
 
 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
 brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.
 
 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality
 and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was
 still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Wil Genovese

I guess we could just ask Nick  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Bradbury  

Who knew he had his own Wikipedia page?




Wil Genovese


 On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote:
 
 
 Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick
 wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on Topstyle.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:
 
 
 Andrew,
 
 I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with
 homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
 And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that
 wrong
 you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 Wil,
 
 I am not sadly misinformed at all.
 
 Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used
 extensively
 in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and
 rebadged
 it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by
 the
 free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not
 do.
 
 Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
 HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost
 forever.
 
 So how is that misinformed?
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Scott,
 
 You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then
 sold
 it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
 Editor.
 
 Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
 Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being
 frustrated
 with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge,
 Massachusetts
 (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and
 Nick
 Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went
 on to
 work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
 Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe
 in
 2005.
 
 Even Wikipedia has it right
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite
 
 
 
 
 Wil Genovese
 
 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson
 
 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
 
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
 And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it
 as
 Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since
 1995,
 when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and
 then
 Homesite+
 
 The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
 features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
 homesite+
 
 I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on
 it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
 wrote:
 
 
 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
 brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
 My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
 long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than
 that.
 
 As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
 and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
 Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
 CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
 product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality
 and
 CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
 Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
 was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was
 still
 supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
 Dave Watts, 

Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Paul Hastings

On 1/15/2015 8:24 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
 I know about it, because I used Homesite before Allaire bought it. I
 switched from HotDog to Homesite before Allaire got involved. After

hotdog? homesite? geez, kids today don't know how lucky they got it.

hands up if you remember the 1st commercial windows webserver (hint it wasn't 
IIS)?

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

​Dave,

I don't recall what the features where, but I tried to upgrade to Homesite+
and all the features that I came used too, where not in Homesite+ when
Studio was discontinued.

That was when I switched to Dreamweaver, but I can dig up the emails where
I asked Macromedia to include those in the new Homesite+ if you want or
really need it.

Top Style was the reason Allaire bought the product, when he came over to
Allaire they then worked on ColdFusion studio as well as Homesite. I
remember the reps coming into our work place and demoing the new products
for ColdFusion 3.1 and ColdFusion studio was one of those products. I was a
paid user on Top style, so when ColdFusion studio was released it was right
up there.

When Macromedia bought Allaire, they decided Studio was no longer a good
fit and then released Homesite+, with which I still have all the
promotional emails in my archives somewhere. And like I said I still have
the Orignal ColdFusion Studio disc in my collection.











​

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively
  in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged
  it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by
 the
  free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not
 do.
 
  Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
  HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost
 forever.
 
  So how is that misinformed?

 Nick created Homesite long before TopStyle. TopStyle was a CSS editor
 (thus the name, TopStyle, I guess). After he started with Allaire,
 CF-specific functionality was added to give us CF Studio. Later on, CF
 Studio was rebranded as Homesite+.

 I defy you to find one feature in CF Studio that doesn't also exist in
 Homesite+.

 But you don't have to trust me, just go to Nick Bradbury's personal
 site (http://nickbradbury.com/), where he describes himself:

 I created HomeSite, TopStyle  FeedDemon for Windows and developed
 the Android version of Glassboard. I'm now a mobile developer at
 Automattic.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

Ok it appears I have my dates wrong.

Homesite was 1995, ColdFusion studio was 1996 and Homesite+ was 1998. But
it still doesn't excuse the fact that Studio was the better of them all, it
had more features than Homesite put together and Homesite+ when introduced,
did not have everything that Studio had, it may have over time or years
later. But the damage was done and I moved onto another product that would
do that at the time. Dreamweaver was the one that came closest to having
those project like Source control IDE feeling that Homesite/Homesite+
lacked at that time.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote:


 I guess we could just ask Nick  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Bradbury

 Who knew he had his own Wikipedia page?




 Wil Genovese


  On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
  Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick
  wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on
 Topstyle.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Andrew,
 
  I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with
  homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
 
  And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that
  wrong
  you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  Wil,
 
  I am not sadly misinformed at all.
 
  Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used
  extensively
  in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and
  rebadged
  it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed
 by
  the
  free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could
 not
  do.
 
  Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful,
 hence
  HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost
  forever.
 
  So how is that misinformed?
 
 
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Scott,
 
  You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then
  sold
  it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
  Editor.
 
  Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
  Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being
  frustrated
  with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge,
  Massachusetts
  (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and
  Nick
  Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went
  on to
  work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
  Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe
  in
  2005.
 
  Even Wikipedia has it right
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite
 
 
 
 
  Wil Genovese
 
  One man with courage makes a majority.
  -Andrew Jackson
 
  A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
 
  On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
 
  And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded
 it
  as
  Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott 
  andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
  wrote:
 
  Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott 
  andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since
  1995,
  when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite
 and
  then
  Homesite+
 
  The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
  features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to
 release
  homesite+
 
  I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994
 on
  it.
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
  wrote:
 
 
  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
  

Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Russ Michaels

because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I believe

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
wrote:


 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and
 not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software.

 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:

 
  Hi Aaron
 
  After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in
 the
  options box for the find to work.
 
  Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an
  entire
  site.
 
  Rob
  Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
  Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
  For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
  Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
  to Resolve Grief and Resentment
  http://www.appreciativeway.com/
  503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
 
 
  On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote:
 
  
   I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find.  Just as one
   short
   example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big
   project that
   the support person no longer was available for.  My workstation at
   home has
   CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the
   text
   cfmail) in there.
 
 
 

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick
wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on Topstyle.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:


 Andrew,

 I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with
 homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
  And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that
 wrong
  you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  Wil,
 
  I am not sadly misinformed at all.
 
  Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used
 extensively
  in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and
 rebadged
  it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by
 the
  free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not
 do.
 
  Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence
  HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost
 forever.
 
  So how is that misinformed?
 
 
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Scott,
 
  You are sadly misinformed.  Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then
 sold
  it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS
  Editor.
 
  Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick
  Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being
 frustrated
  with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge,
 Massachusetts
  (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and
 Nick
  Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went
 on to
  work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon.
  Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe
 in
  2005.
 
  Even Wikipedia has it right
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite
 
 
 
 
  Wil Genovese
 
  One man with courage makes a majority.
  -Andrew Jackson
 
  A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
 
  On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
 
  And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it
 as
  Homesite Studio in 1996.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott 
 andr...@andyscott.id.au
 
  wrote:
 
  Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott 
  andr...@andyscott.id.au
  wrote:
 
  I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since
 1995,
  when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and
  then
  Homesite+
 
  The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more
  features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release
  homesite+
 
  I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on
  it.
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
  wrote:
 
 
  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
  brother was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio.
 
  My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
  long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than
 that.
 
  As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
  and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
  Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
  CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
  product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality
  and
  CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
  Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
  was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was
  still
  supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.
 
 https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  1-202-527-9569
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  http://training.figleaf.com/
 
  Fig Leaf Software is a 

Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Scott

So was Studio as it was shipped with ColdFusion 5.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I
 believe

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:

 
  I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother
 was
  the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and
  not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew Scott
  WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
  Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:
 
  
   Hi Aaron
  
   After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in
  the
   options box for the find to work.
  
   Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading
 an
   entire
   site.
  
   Rob
   Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
   Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
   For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
   Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
   to Resolve Grief and Resentment
   http://www.appreciativeway.com/
   503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
  
  
   On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote:
  
   
I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find.  Just as one
short
example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big
project that
the support person no longer was available for.  My workstation at
home has
CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the
text
cfmail) in there.
  
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Dave Watts

 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio.

My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a
long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that.

As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it
and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF
Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and
CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the
product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and
CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as
Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+
was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still
supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition.

https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Rob Voyle

I had problems with studio on win 7 freezing when doing extended 
search/replace which was what I continued to use homesite for.
Rob 

On 15 Jan 2015 at 2:57, Andrew Scott wrote:

 
 So was Studio as it was shipped with ColdFusion 5.
 



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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-14 Thread Wil Genovese

Starting way back in 1996 Homesite was the popular HTML editor BEFORE Allaire 
bought it from Nick Bradbury. It was in heavy competition with HotDog HTML 
Editor. Allaire made a deal with Nick and brought Homesite and him to Allaire. 
Then they made the CFStudio variant of Homesite. So Homesite had a huge 
following before Studio even existed.

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 On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
 
 
 because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I believe
 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au
 wrote:
 
 
 I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was
 the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and
 not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software.
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Scott
 WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
 Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Aaron
 
 After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in
 the
 options box for the find to work.
 
 Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an
 entire
 site.
 
 Rob
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 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote:
 
 
 I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find.  Just as one
 short
 example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big
 project that
 the support person no longer was available for.  My workstation at
 home has
 CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the
 text
 cfmail) in there.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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