Re: CF Builder 3
I would let it expire and see if you need the license. I use the expired trial and it does everything I need. It isn't worth spending the $300 unless you use the extra tooling. William Seiter will...@seiter.com wrote: Good Afternoon, I have been playing with the mobile abilities of CF11 recently and just noticed that my trial copy of the CFB is coming to an end soon. Does anyone have an extra license for CFB 3 that they would be willing to part with? I don't want to pay the full retail price for something I am just 'playing with' yet. Thanks, William -- William Seiter ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF Builder 3
Good Afternoon, I have been playing with the mobile abilities of CF11 recently and just noticed that my trial copy of the CFB is coming to an end soon. Does anyone have an extra license for CFB 3 that they would be willing to part with? I don't want to pay the full retail price for something I am just 'playing with' yet. Thanks, William -- William Seiter ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Hi Casey, this is awesome ! Thanks for sharing this link with us. :-) Do you have a HomeSite+-licence-serial you can sell me ? Uwe My memory isn't what it use to be... Good thing we have a nice archive now... https://www.copy.com/s/nhIbHZYZnmPN/ColdFusion%20Repo On Jan 15, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I seem to remember TopStyle being on the CF5 discs along with CF Studio. Or was it CF 6, which was MX wasn't it? I can't remember. That was ages ago. What I do remember is that I absolutely loved the RDS features on CF Studio. I was gutted when I had to stop using CF Studio for lack of compatibility when I upgraded to a newer version of Windows. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and
Re: CF Builder 3
Serialisly No sorry... On Sat, Jan 17, 2015, 7:37 AM Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de wrote: Hi Casey, this is awesome ! Thanks for sharing this link with us. :-) Do you have a HomeSite+-licence-serial you can sell me ? Uwe My memory isn't what it use to be... Good thing we have a nice archive now... https://www.copy.com/s/nhIbHZYZnmPN/ColdFusion%20Repo On Jan 15, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I seem to remember TopStyle being on the CF5 discs along with CF Studio. Or was it CF 6, which was MX wasn't it? I can't remember. That was ages ago. What I do remember is that I absolutely loved the RDS features on CF Studio. I was gutted when I had to stop using CF Studio for lack of compatibility when I upgraded to a newer version of Windows. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I
Re: CF Builder 3
My memory isn't what it use to be... Good thing we have a nice archive now... https://www.copy.com/s/nhIbHZYZnmPN/ColdFusion%20Repo On Jan 15, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I seem to remember TopStyle being on the CF5 discs along with CF Studio. Or was it CF 6, which was MX wasn't it? I can't remember. That was ages ago. What I do remember is that I absolutely loved the RDS features on CF Studio. I was gutted when I had to stop using CF Studio for lack of compatibility when I upgraded to a newer version of Windows. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me
Re: CF Builder 3
I seem to remember TopStyle being on the CF5 discs along with CF Studio. Or was it CF 6, which was MX wasn't it? I can't remember. That was ages ago. What I do remember is that I absolutely loved the RDS features on CF Studio. I was gutted when I had to stop using CF Studio for lack of compatibility when I upgraded to a newer version of Windows. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569
Re: CF Builder 3
I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ I know about it, because I used Homesite before Allaire bought it. I switched from HotDog to Homesite before Allaire got involved. After Allaire purchased Homesite, I'm not entirely sure whether they continued to offer Homesite along with CF Studio, but I think they may have. After the Macromedia acquisition, around the timeframe of the CF 6 release if I recall correctly, they dropped CF Studio in favor of Homesite+ - which again was the same thing as CF Studio had been (RDS, CF wizards, etc). The Homesite product line (Homesite, CF Studio, Homesite+) were written in Delphi, and I think no one at Macromedia really wanted to support that once Nick Bradbury left. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359957 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359952 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359951 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359953 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Nick created Homesite long before TopStyle. TopStyle was a CSS editor (thus the name, TopStyle, I guess). After he started with Allaire, CF-specific functionality was added to give us CF Studio. Later on, CF Studio was rebranded as Homesite+. I defy you to find one feature in CF Studio that doesn't also exist in Homesite+. But you don't have to trust me, just go to Nick Bradbury's personal site (http://nickbradbury.com/), where he describes himself: I created HomeSite, TopStyle FeedDemon for Windows and developed the Android version of Glassboard. I'm now a mobile developer at Automattic. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359956 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
hotdog? homesite? geez, kids today don't know how lucky they got it. hands up if you remember the 1st commercial windows webserver (hint it wasn't IIS)? In fairness, Bob Denny's WebSite Pro was around about the same time - in fact, there was some sort of bundling available with it and CF from O'Reilly - so if you remember HotDog and Homesite you probably remember it too. I still have my WebSite Pro books - they were really well written! My first web site used WebSite Pro on NT 3.51, and CGI code written in ... Visual Basic. Good times! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359961 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359960
Re: CF Builder 3
I guess we could just ask Nick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Bradbury Who knew he had his own Wikipedia page? Wil Genovese On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on Topstyle. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts,
Re: CF Builder 3
On 1/15/2015 8:24 AM, Dave Watts wrote: I know about it, because I used Homesite before Allaire bought it. I switched from HotDog to Homesite before Allaire got involved. After hotdog? homesite? geez, kids today don't know how lucky they got it. hands up if you remember the 1st commercial windows webserver (hint it wasn't IIS)? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
âDave, I don't recall what the features where, but I tried to upgrade to Homesite+ and all the features that I came used too, where not in Homesite+ when Studio was discontinued. That was when I switched to Dreamweaver, but I can dig up the emails where I asked Macromedia to include those in the new Homesite+ if you want or really need it. Top Style was the reason Allaire bought the product, when he came over to Allaire they then worked on ColdFusion studio as well as Homesite. I remember the reps coming into our work place and demoing the new products for ColdFusion 3.1 and ColdFusion studio was one of those products. I was a paid user on Top style, so when ColdFusion studio was released it was right up there. When Macromedia bought Allaire, they decided Studio was no longer a good fit and then released Homesite+, with which I still have all the promotional emails in my archives somewhere. And like I said I still have the Orignal ColdFusion Studio disc in my collection. â Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Nick created Homesite long before TopStyle. TopStyle was a CSS editor (thus the name, TopStyle, I guess). After he started with Allaire, CF-specific functionality was added to give us CF Studio. Later on, CF Studio was rebranded as Homesite+. I defy you to find one feature in CF Studio that doesn't also exist in Homesite+. But you don't have to trust me, just go to Nick Bradbury's personal site (http://nickbradbury.com/), where he describes himself: I created HomeSite, TopStyle FeedDemon for Windows and developed the Android version of Glassboard. I'm now a mobile developer at Automattic. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Ok it appears I have my dates wrong. Homesite was 1995, ColdFusion studio was 1996 and Homesite+ was 1998. But it still doesn't excuse the fact that Studio was the better of them all, it had more features than Homesite put together and Homesite+ when introduced, did not have everything that Studio had, it may have over time or years later. But the damage was done and I moved onto another product that would do that at the time. Dreamweaver was the one that came closest to having those project like Source control IDE feeling that Homesite/Homesite+ lacked at that time. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I guess we could just ask Nick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Bradbury Who knew he had his own Wikipedia page? Wil Genovese On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on Topstyle. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger
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because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I believe On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Aaron After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in the options box for the find to work. Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an entire site. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Because Homesite and Studio where to be its replacement and when Nick wasn't happy with Macromedia he left and continued development on Topstyle. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, M.A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Andrew, I seem to remember that topstyle shipped with cf studio and with homesite. how could homesite be a later version of topstyle? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And for fuck sake my name is not Scott, but then if you can get that wrong you can get your facts wrong about Studio as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Wil, I am not sadly misinformed at all. Nick Bradley created a product called Top Style, which I used extensively in those days. Allaire then purchased that program from Nick and rebadged it as Homesite, Homesite Studio was the first version which followed by the free version called Homesite. Studio did things that Homesite could not do. Studio was then let go in favor of making Homesite more powerful, hence HomeSite+, problem was that the best features of Studio where lost forever. So how is that misinformed? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Scott, You are sadly misinformed. Nick Bradbury created Homesite and then sold it to Allaire. Later Nick also created Top Style as a stand alone CSS Editor. Homesite was originally developed in Borland Delphi in 1995 by Nick Bradbury. Bradbury wrote HomeSite after using HotDogand being frustrated with it. In March 1997 Allaire Corporation from Cambridge, Massachusetts (founded by brothers Jeremy and J.J. Allaire) acquired HomeSite and Nick Bradbury joined Allaire. After leaving Allaire in 1998, Bradbury went on to work on the CSS/xHTML editor TopStyle and the RSS reader FeedDemon. Macromedia acquired Allaire in 2001 and was in turn acquired by Adobe in 2005. Even Wikipedia has it right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And it was called Top Style before Allaire bought it and rebranded it as Homesite Studio in 1996. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sorry that should be 1996 not 1995 Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I don't know about pre dating it, I have been using Studio since 1995, when Allaire purchased it. They then decided to release Homesite and then Homesite+ The only difference between the two, was that Studio had far more features. When Studio was discontinued, they then decided to release homesite+ I still have the Homesite Studio Disc with the copyright of 1994 on it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a
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So was Studio as it was shipped with ColdFusion 5. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I believe On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Aaron After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in the options box for the find to work. Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an entire site. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359947 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. My memory here is a little hazy, as I haven't used either one for a long time, but I recall it being a little more complicated than that. As Wil mentioned, Homesite predated CF Studio. Allaire purchased it and kept Nick on to make future versions. The next version was CF Studio, which was basically Homesite with RDS functionality and CF-specific code generators and wizards. But after a while, the product was renamed Homesite+, and still had the RDS functionality and CF-specific stuff. So for me at least, I think of all three as Homesite, because they're all basically the same thing. Homesite+ was the final version released by Macromedia, and I think it was still supported for a while after the Adobe acquisition. https://www.adobe.com/support/homesite/releasenotes/plus/releasenotes_plus.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I had problems with studio on win 7 freezing when doing extended search/replace which was what I continued to use homesite for. Rob On 15 Jan 2015 at 2:57, Andrew Scott wrote: So was Studio as it was shipped with ColdFusion 5. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359948 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Starting way back in 1996 Homesite was the popular HTML editor BEFORE Allaire bought it from Nick Bradbury. It was in heavy competition with HotDog HTML Editor. Allaire made a deal with Nick and brought Homesite and him to Allaire. Then they made the CFStudio variant of Homesite. So Homesite had a huge following before Studio even existed. /Historylesson Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: because it was FREE and used to come on CD with Dreamweaver and CF I believe On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Aaron After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in the options box for the find to work. Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an entire site. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359949 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Prior to CFB 3.0, yes if you used the Aptana search it had issues. The idea is to use the search from Eclipse itself. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. I am not on that machine right now so can't say the exact wording for the Finds I tried but I know it was both the Adobe and Eclipse ones. As I recall I used Homesite+ since found a copy in my desk and installed it. I am on my laptop right now which has DW CS5 installed and I just checked, it finds cfmail 41 times in that same codebase. Inconsistent and incorrect finding across projects with CF Builder has been the one thorn in my side that prevents me from relying on using it daily as a primary IDE. For whatever reasons it seems I quite often need to find things across projects. Actually rather disappointing because I bought CFB for that workstation since my copies of DW would not install in 64-bit Windows 8 and figured it would force me to learn/use CFB. I still randomly use it when at home and need to make a quick edit but just do not use it as my primary or actually ever during the day. -- Aaron On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) âThe find/replace is very simple in Builder, in fact I would go as far as to say its better than Homesite/Studio (which was way better than Homesite)â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359944 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I can never understand why Homesite was so popular, it's bigger brother was the better of the two. Which was Studio. But as it is old and ancient and not being updated any more, feel free to use 20 year old software. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Aaron After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in the options box for the find to work. Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an entire site. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359945 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. I am not on that machine right now so can't say the exact wording for the Finds I tried but I know it was both the Adobe and Eclipse ones. As I recall I used Homesite+ since found a copy in my desk and installed it. I am on my laptop right now which has DW CS5 installed and I just checked, it finds cfmail 41 times in that same codebase. Inconsistent and incorrect finding across projects with CF Builder has been the one thorn in my side that prevents me from relying on using it daily as a primary IDE. For whatever reasons it seems I quite often need to find things across projects. Actually rather disappointing because I bought CFB for that workstation since my copies of DW would not install in 64-bit Windows 8 and figured it would force me to learn/use CFB. I still randomly use it when at home and need to make a quick edit but just do not use it as my primary or actually ever during the day. -- Aaron On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) âThe find/replace is very simple in Builder, in fact I would go as far as to say its better than Homesite/Studio (which was way better than Homesite)â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Hi Aaron After much frustration I found that you need to select wrap search in the options box for the find to work. Still prefer homesite for project wide find and replace when upgrading an entire site. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 13 Jan 2015 at 15:21, Aaron Rouse wrote: I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359943 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Hi Steve As I recall it was only on things like cffile or cfcontent where I was manipulating file names. cfinclude was not impacted. Unfortunately I had got a bit lazy in my code having moved from a unix platform to windows about 8 years ago. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 10 Jan 2015 at 21:35, Steve LaBadie wrote: Thanks Ron i didn't know that cf11 could be case sensitive. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has some promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free version working. While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You will have varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after you close and reopen the program. The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and unhelpful. Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing has been done The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an external FileZilla program. For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite having used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings that control many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather than coldfusion builder Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359935 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3-2
Hi Steve One other thing if you are using a windows platform. CF11 is now built on Tomcat. Not much of a problem EXCEPT that some (but not all) file names will be case sensitive in some applications. Wasted a day on that one trying to debug an application that had worked fine on CF9. Rob On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359936 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Builder 3-2
Thanks Ron i didn't know that cf11 could be case sensitive. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S III, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Rob Voyle Date:01/10/2015 12:30 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF Builder 3-2 Hi Steve One other thing if you are using a windows platform. CF11 is now built on Tomcat. Not much of a problem EXCEPT that some (but not all) file names will be case sensitive in some applications. Wasted a day on that one trying to debug an application that had worked fine on CF9. Rob On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359939 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I have tried out a few editors and stuck with sublime as my general all round text editor. But the tag/function insight and completion for cfml is not complete and unless you know every attribute of every tag and function then you have to resort to docs. I have to say I still have a preference for Dreamweaver, it still does a good job even in the code editor. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 17:52 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I'll add: while you're checking stuff out, be sure to check out: http://brackets.io Has a CFML extension, is super-fast lightweight, has great find-and-replace, and has amazing front-end dev tools. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com javascript:; wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has some promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free version working. While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You will have varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after you close and reopen the program. The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and unhelpful. Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing has been done The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an external FileZilla program. For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite having used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings that control many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather than coldfusion builder Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359938 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I'll add: while you're checking stuff out, be sure to check out: http://brackets.io Has a CFML extension, is super-fast lightweight, has great find-and-replace, and has amazing front-end dev tools. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has some promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free version working. While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You will have varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after you close and reopen the program. The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and unhelpful. Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing has been done The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an external FileZilla program. For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite having used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings that control many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather than coldfusion builder Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) âThe find/replace is very simple in Builder, in fact I would go as far as to say its better than Homesite/Studio (which was way better than Homesite)â While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You will have varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after you close and reopen the program. âCan't say I have this problem, I have custom colors/fonts etc., with no issues what so ever.â The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and unhelpful. âThis is an Eclipse feature that CF Builder leverages off, this really needs better work and customization options.â Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing has been done The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an external FileZilla program. âActually it is not that complicated to set up at all, not sure why you think that.â But personally, I use Scooter's Beyond Compare. When pushing changes on a daily basis with many other changes not approved. One really needs a better sync program to do that. Relying on just using FTP can be a asking for trouble, especially if you have many changes and some should not be pushed. For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite having used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings that control many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather than coldfusion builder âThat is an issue with Eclipse and not ColdFusion Builder, but it can be very powerful IDE if used right and Adobe get their act together and make it that way.â â Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
It really depends on your development workflow. If you already have an IDE that you use to create you CF pages than you might not want to change. It's worth installing and seeing if you like it since you get a license anyways. Personally I really like the speed of Sublime Text and use that instead. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: Is it worth installing/using? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edu -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@trunkful.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF Builder 3 ColdFusion Builder 3 is an IDE based on Eclipse. You can install as standalone or as a plugin for an existing Eclipse setup. - oh and desktop NOT the server. Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edumailto:slaba...@esu.edu [facebook-16x16]http://www.facebook.com/eaststroudsburguniversity [twitter-16x16] http://twitter.com/esuniversity [youtube-16x16] http://www.youtube.com/user/esuedu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359913 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Builder 3
Thanks everyone for responding Happy New Year Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edu -Original Message- From: Byron Mann [mailto:byronos...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF Builder 3 I use Sublime as well and love it for its simplicity. However, believe you can do real debugging with CF Builder. That may be a perk worth consideration. I do agree, changing dev methodologies can be time consuming, so maybe start off using it in your free time to get used to things. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359915 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
Builder is a desktop development environment (IDE), based on Eclipse. If you have not used Eclipse with CFEclipse or Builder, I would recommend giving it a go. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Jan 6, 2015 1:20 PM, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edumailto:slaba...@esu.edu [facebook-16x16]http://www.facebook.com/eaststroudsburguniversity [twitter-16x16] http://twitter.com/esuniversity [youtube-16x16] http://www.youtube.com/user/esuedu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359912 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Builder 3
Is it worth installing/using? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edu -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@trunkful.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF Builder 3 ColdFusion Builder 3 is an IDE based on Eclipse. You can install as standalone or as a plugin for an existing Eclipse setup. - oh and desktop NOT the server. Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edumailto:slaba...@esu.edu [facebook-16x16]http://www.facebook.com/eaststroudsburguniversity [twitter-16x16] http://twitter.com/esuniversity [youtube-16x16] http://www.youtube.com/user/esuedu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359911 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
ColdFusion Builder 3 is an IDE based on Eclipse. You can install as standalone or as a plugin for an existing Eclipse setup. - oh and desktop NOT the server. Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edumailto:slaba...@esu.edu [facebook-16x16]http://www.facebook.com/eaststroudsburguniversity [twitter-16x16] http://twitter.com/esuniversity [youtube-16x16] http://www.youtube.com/user/esuedu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359910 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3
I use Sublime as well and love it for its simplicity. However, believe you can do real debugging with CF Builder. That may be a perk worth consideration. I do agree, changing dev methodologies can be time consuming, so maybe start off using it in your free time to get used to things. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359914 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF Builder 3
We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the server or desktop? Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 570-422-3999 slaba...@esu.edumailto:slaba...@esu.edu [facebook-16x16]http://www.facebook.com/eaststroudsburguniversity [twitter-16x16] http://twitter.com/esuniversity [youtube-16x16] http://www.youtube.com/user/esuedu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359909 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
You can actually import your entire CFB2 workspace if you want (projects included). By default (and on Windows), CFB2 put the workspace in C:\Users\Username\Adobe ColdFusion Builder Workspace. You can point CFB3 to that same workspace if you want, or copy it into the one created by CFB3 (probably in a similar place). At least that worked with the Thunder Beta version I have. -Carl V. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
Also, you can use the AnyEditTools plugin (http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/) to export / import any working sets that you have defined. This works great if you use the same workspace that you had for your previous CFB or Eclipse installation. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Carl Von Stetten vonner.li...@vonner.netwrote: You can actually import your entire CFB2 workspace if you want (projects included). By default (and on Windows), CFB2 put the workspace in C:\Users\Username\Adobe ColdFusion Builder Workspace. You can point CFB3 to that same workspace if you want, or copy it into the one created by CFB3 (probably in a similar place). At least that worked with the Thunder Beta version I have. -Carl V. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358588 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
Also, you can use the AnyEditTools plugin ( http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/) Excellent! Thanx for sharing! G! -- Gerald Guido Twitter https://twitter.com/CozmoTrouble Blarg http://www.myinternetisbroken.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gerald.guido.9 On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you can use the AnyEditTools plugin ( http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/) to export / import any working sets that you have defined. This works great if you use the same workspace that you had for your previous CFB or Eclipse installation. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Carl Von Stetten vonner.li...@vonner.net wrote: You can actually import your entire CFB2 workspace if you want (projects included). By default (and on Windows), CFB2 put the workspace in C:\Users\Username\Adobe ColdFusion Builder Workspace. You can point CFB3 to that same workspace if you want, or copy it into the one created by CFB3 (probably in a similar place). At least that worked with the Thunder Beta version I have. -Carl V. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
Can I just say this, there are dangers to just using the same workspace. These dangers are not just limited to the fact that plugins etc., and Eclipse itself stores a lot of information in here that could very easily be out of date for any updates to either Eclipse or any of the related plugins. The official way to do this, is just the import previous installation from the import options. Then from here all you need to do is actually use the import project. There is no need for any plugins, or external tools to do the job, it is all done from within Eclipse. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you can use the AnyEditTools plugin ( http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/) Excellent! Thanx for sharing! G! -- Gerald Guido Twitter https://twitter.com/CozmoTrouble Blarg http://www.myinternetisbroken.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gerald.guido.9 On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you can use the AnyEditTools plugin ( http://andrei.gmxhome.de/anyedit/) to export / import any working sets that you have defined. This works great if you use the same workspace that you had for your previous CFB or Eclipse installation. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Carl Von Stetten vonner.li...@vonner.net wrote: You can actually import your entire CFB2 workspace if you want (projects included). By default (and on Windows), CFB2 put the workspace in C:\Users\Username\Adobe ColdFusion Builder Workspace. You can point CFB3 to that same workspace if you want, or copy it into the one created by CFB3 (probably in a similar place). At least that worked with the Thunder Beta version I have. -Carl V. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
I have never been a fan of the sync in CFB, I have always used Scooters Beyond Compare. ... +1 for Beyond Compare, it's awesome. On an unrelated note, is there something I'm missing during the CF Builder 3 setup process to import settings and projects and such from Builder 2? I have everything there set up the way I want it (custom colors, editor settings, projects, etc) and it would be a pain to have to re-set up everything in Builder 3... did I miss a transfer settings option somewhere? I imported a couple of projects I work on regularly and it didn't even keep the project names in the project list (used the folder name and refuses to let me rename the project with an error). I like Builder, but the move from 2 to 3 could be a lot smoother. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358501 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
That is actually a good question. In Eclipse the way you do this is go to import, which will open up the type of import. You then go to install and select from previous installation. I have done this with CFB2 when it was running as a plugin to an Eclipse Installation, but I just tried to do this with Thunder and it really doesn't want to do this... My guess this is something that Adobe should have in CFB right from the word go and I will be very unhappy if I have to go an reset all this up again. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: I have never been a fan of the sync in CFB, I have always used Scooters Beyond Compare. ... +1 for Beyond Compare, it's awesome. On an unrelated note, is there something I'm missing during the CF Builder 3 setup process to import settings and projects and such from Builder 2? I have everything there set up the way I want it (custom colors, editor settings, projects, etc) and it would be a pain to have to re-set up everything in Builder 3... did I miss a transfer settings option somewhere? I imported a couple of projects I work on regularly and it didn't even keep the project names in the project list (used the folder name and refuses to let me rename the project with an error). I like Builder, but the move from 2 to 3 could be a lot smoother. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
I have taken the advice of several members of this list and installed ColdFusion Builder 3. For the last hour I have been frustrated, trying to upload a single file to my production server. It's quite likely I'm coming at this from the wrong angle (i'm a CFBuilder novice after all) but from what I can see, CFBuilder will only upload any files if it has uploaded them all. Apparently, you have to either upload the entire project, or a file that has been uploaded previously by CFBuilder but changed since it last uploaded the project. If it didnt upload the project last time (because it's on the production server already) you can't upload anything. Or have it missed something? I even tried deleting everything off the production server, so CFBuilder could upload them all and then be happy. But it didnt like that either. It says the local folder is already mapped to something else and wont upload anything. And not only that, when I try to cancel the ftp upload, it asks if i want CFBuilder to remember and wont accept anything but 'yes'. In other words, you'd better get all the details right first time or you're screwed. Are there any help files that are more than utter basic kindergarten files yet? OR tutorials?The only tutorials I've found are either for previous versions, or are telling me how to install everything. I dont need that. I need to know how to use this damned application, since Adobe are now preventing me using Dreamweaver for CF applications. How do I tame the FTP and synchronising functions? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358491 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 3 frustrates!!!
I have never been a fan of the sync in CFB, I have always used Scooters Beyond Compare. The main reason is that most sync's in IDE's like this don't allow for the line differences in the files, I haven't used dreamweaver for a long time either and I doubt Adobe would have put that sort of feature into Dreamweaver, but I could be wrong. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have taken the advice of several members of this list and installed ColdFusion Builder 3. For the last hour I have been frustrated, trying to upload a single file to my production server. It's quite likely I'm coming at this from the wrong angle (i'm a CFBuilder novice after all) but from what I can see, CFBuilder will only upload any files if it has uploaded them all. Apparently, you have to either upload the entire project, or a file that has been uploaded previously by CFBuilder but changed since it last uploaded the project. If it didnt upload the project last time (because it's on the production server already) you can't upload anything. Or have it missed something? I even tried deleting everything off the production server, so CFBuilder could upload them all and then be happy. But it didnt like that either. It says the local folder is already mapped to something else and wont upload anything. And not only that, when I try to cancel the ftp upload, it asks if i want CFBuilder to remember and wont accept anything but 'yes'. In other words, you'd better get all the details right first time or you're screwed. Are there any help files that are more than utter basic kindergarten files yet? OR tutorials?The only tutorials I've found are either for previous versions, or are telling me how to install everything. I dont need that. I need to know how to use this damned application, since Adobe are now preventing me using Dreamweaver for CF applications. How do I tame the FTP and synchronising functions? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358498 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
