Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Keith, Jeremy wrote:
 I should define that this is only happening with ONE specific customer,
 for the others it works as designed 

I suspect that customer has a broken Web Application Firewall that is 
incorrectly stripping some URL variable from a request (i.e. changing a 
request for blah.cfc?wsdl into blah.cfc). Check your webserver logs.

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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Keith, Jeremy
So because their PUBLIC IP block is a 192 block (there are public 192
addresses) Cold Fusion is mis interpreting this as a direct request? 


Jeremy Keith
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One Agrand Street
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Office: (508) 890-7032


-Original Message-
From: Sam Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
redirect from app login

That occurs when the user is requesting a cfc directly and the access
for the method is not remote.

It is strange that only one person sees this though.

On Nov 7, 2007 11:18 AM, Keith, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also the page that it's redirecting to is the CFC explorer

 CFIDE/componentutils/cfcexplorer.cfc?method=getcfcinhtmlname=WebServi
 ce 
 s.ajaxCFC.core.RWGJKAjaxpath=/Webservices/ajaxCFC/core/RWGJKAjax.cfc


 Jeremy Keith
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 Office: (508) 890-7032


 -Original Message-
 From: Keith, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:02 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after 
 redirect from app login


 OK, have a very strange issue that I've not seen before.

 We have literally thousands of customers, and I really think that this

 is probably a security setting on their firewall or in their IE 
 settings, however I'll post this up anyways.

 We have a application with authentication that creates a session, when

 anyone at this location attempts to log into the application they get 
 kicked to a different page that asks them to provide a login into RDS

 Now the only thing to note is that their public IP address is a 192.* 
 IP, not in 192.168, but I'm wonder if there is something with the 
 debugging in CF8 that might be causing this? Anyone else seen anything

 like this?


 Jeremy Keith
 Network Administrator
 Rand-Whitney Group LLC
 One Agrand Street
 Worcester, MA 01607
 Office: (508) 890-7032



 
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Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Kris Jones
I've seen strange redirects or errors happen for only specific
customers on our app as well. We've spent time trying to track it
down to some strange network configuration thing. In the end, it
almost always turns out to be application logic that is causing it to
happen. In our case, our application is client-configurable (e.g., all
end-users at client-X have this or that option enabled/disabled, etc;
or end-user-Z does/doesn't have some specific assignment). So, before
you spend a ton of time trying to track down an unknown CF bug, take a
good hard look at your application logic.

Cheers,
Kris

  I should define that this is only happening with ONE specific customer,
  for the others it works as designed

 I suspect that customer has a broken Web Application Firewall that is
 incorrectly stripping some URL variable from a request (i.e. changing a
 request for blah.cfc?wsdl into blah.cfc). Check your webserver logs.


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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Keith, Jeremy
I should also add that I can login as the user from my location, and
from my home with his credentials without an issue.  


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-Original Message-
From: Kris Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
redirect from app login

I've seen strange redirects or errors happen for only specific
customers on our app as well. We've spent time trying to track it down
to some strange network configuration thing. In the end, it almost
always turns out to be application logic that is causing it to happen.
In our case, our application is client-configurable (e.g., all end-users
at client-X have this or that option enabled/disabled, etc; or
end-user-Z does/doesn't have some specific assignment). So, before you
spend a ton of time trying to track down an unknown CF bug, take a good
hard look at your application logic.

Cheers,
Kris

  I should define that this is only happening with ONE specific 
  customer, for the others it works as designed

 I suspect that customer has a broken Web Application Firewall that is 
 incorrectly stripping some URL variable from a request (i.e. changing 
 a request for blah.cfc?wsdl into blah.cfc). Check your webserver logs.




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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Keith, Jeremy
Ya, unfortunately there are no options for the customer, but I'll keep
digging. 


Jeremy Keith
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One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032


-Original Message-
From: Kris Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
redirect from app login

I've seen strange redirects or errors happen for only specific
customers on our app as well. We've spent time trying to track it down
to some strange network configuration thing. In the end, it almost
always turns out to be application logic that is causing it to happen.
In our case, our application is client-configurable (e.g., all end-users
at client-X have this or that option enabled/disabled, etc; or
end-user-Z does/doesn't have some specific assignment). So, before you
spend a ton of time trying to track down an unknown CF bug, take a good
hard look at your application logic.

Cheers,
Kris

  I should define that this is only happening with ONE specific 
  customer, for the others it works as designed

 I suspect that customer has a broken Web Application Firewall that is 
 incorrectly stripping some URL variable from a request (i.e. changing 
 a request for blah.cfc?wsdl into blah.cfc). Check your webserver logs.




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Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Keith, Jeremy wrote:
 Ya, unfortunately there are no options for the customer, but I'll keep
 digging. 

But what is in your webserver log?

Jochem

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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-08 Thread Keith, Jeremy
Nothing at all, I've disabled the one little cfc call (returns text to the page 
every minute, just a clock) and he can log in for now.


-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 11/8/2007 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect 
from app login
 
Keith, Jeremy wrote:
 Ya, unfortunately there are no options for the customer, but I'll keep
 digging. 

But what is in your webserver log?

Jochem



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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-07 Thread Keith, Jeremy
I should define that this is only happening with ONE specific customer,
for the others it works as designed 


Jeremy Keith
Network Administrator
Rand-Whitney Group LLC
One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032


-Original Message-
From: Keith, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
redirect from app login

OK, have a very strange issue that I've not seen before.

We have literally thousands of customers, and I really think that this
is probably a security setting on their firewall or in their IE
settings, however I'll post this up anyways.

We have a application with authentication that creates a session, when
anyone at this location attempts to log into the application they get
kicked to a different page that asks them to provide a login into RDS

Now the only thing to note is that their public IP address is a 192.*
IP, not in 192.168, but I'm wonder if there is something with the
debugging in CF8 that might be causing this? Anyone else seen anything
like this?


Jeremy Keith
Network Administrator
Rand-Whitney Group LLC
One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032




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RE: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-07 Thread Keith, Jeremy
Also the page that it's redirecting to is the CFC explorer

CFIDE/componentutils/cfcexplorer.cfc?method=getcfcinhtmlname=WebService
s.ajaxCFC.core.RWGJKAjaxpath=/Webservices/ajaxCFC/core/RWGJKAjax.cfc 


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One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032


-Original Message-
From: Keith, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
redirect from app login

OK, have a very strange issue that I've not seen before.

We have literally thousands of customers, and I really think that this
is probably a security setting on their firewall or in their IE
settings, however I'll post this up anyways.

We have a application with authentication that creates a session, when
anyone at this location attempts to log into the application they get
kicked to a different page that asks them to provide a login into RDS

Now the only thing to note is that their public IP address is a 192.*
IP, not in 192.168, but I'm wonder if there is something with the
debugging in CF8 that might be causing this? Anyone else seen anything
like this?


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Network Administrator
Rand-Whitney Group LLC
One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032




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Re: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after redirect from app login

2007-11-07 Thread Sam Farmer
That occurs when the user is requesting a cfc directly and the access
for the method is not remote.

It is strange that only one person sees this though.

On Nov 7, 2007 11:18 AM, Keith, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also the page that it's redirecting to is the CFC explorer

 CFIDE/componentutils/cfcexplorer.cfc?method=getcfcinhtmlname=WebService
 s.ajaxCFC.core.RWGJKAjaxpath=/Webservices/ajaxCFC/core/RWGJKAjax.cfc


 Jeremy Keith
 Network Administrator
 Rand-Whitney Group LLC
 One Agrand Street
 Worcester, MA 01607
 Office: (508) 890-7032


 -Original Message-
 From: Keith, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:02 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Weird CF8 issue, Customer gets asked for RDS login after
 redirect from app login


 OK, have a very strange issue that I've not seen before.

 We have literally thousands of customers, and I really think that this
 is probably a security setting on their firewall or in their IE
 settings, however I'll post this up anyways.

 We have a application with authentication that creates a session, when
 anyone at this location attempts to log into the application they get
 kicked to a different page that asks them to provide a login into RDS

 Now the only thing to note is that their public IP address is a 192.*
 IP, not in 192.168, but I'm wonder if there is something with the
 debugging in CF8 that might be causing this? Anyone else seen anything
 like this?


 Jeremy Keith
 Network Administrator
 Rand-Whitney Group LLC
 One Agrand Street
 Worcester, MA 01607
 Office: (508) 890-7032



 
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