Commons-Email: (was Javamail license on geronimo-dev)

[Matthias Wessendorf]

Does anyone know more on it?

since Email uses java-mail from sun.


regards,

matthias

-Original Message-
From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Javamail license


I know Geir has been working on this, but it popped up on my radar 
again... I think we have a serous problem with Javamail unless sun is 
willing to relicense it.  The license is here 
http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/LICENSE.txt

I think the biggest problem for us is this section (near the bottom):

(vi) you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from and 
against any
damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or expenses 
(including
attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any claim, lawsuit or 
action by
any third party that arises or results from the use or distribution of 
any
and all Programs and/or Software.


Does the ASF allow us to ship software from ASF servers that contain 
dependencies that have this kind of language?

-dain


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Re: Commons-Email: (was Javamail license on geronimo-dev)

[Joe Germuska]

At 8:52 PM +0200 7/14/04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
Does anyone know more on it?
since Email uses java-mail from sun.

If you read that whole section, you'll see that the indemnification 
only applies if you accept the limited license to reproduce and 
distribute the Software in binary code form only.  As long as we 
don't put the JARs on our servers, we're not doing that.

Joe
2. License to Distribute Software. Subject to the terms and conditions of
this Agreement, including, but not limited to Section 3 (Java (TM)
Technology Restrictions) of these Supplemental Terms, Sun grants you a
non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license to reproduce and distribute
the Software in binary code form only, provided that (i) you distribute the
Software complete and unmodified and only bundled as part of, and for the
sole purpose of  running, your Java applets or applications (Programs),
(ii) the Programs add significant and primary functionality to the Software,
(iii) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace any
component(s) of the Software, (iv) you do not remove or alter any
proprietary legends or notices contained in the Software, (v) you only
distribute the Software subject to a license agreement that protects Sun's
interests consistent with the terms contained in this Agreement, and (vi)
you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from and against any
damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or expenses (including
attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by
any third party that arises or results from the use or distribution of any
and all Programs and/or Software.
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