Re: @apache web pages
It would be fun to have an Apache community aggregate of web logs, but I have trouble seeing how it serves the foundation's mission. Sorry to be a wet blanket... I'm concerned that if we create people.apache.org we create another inside/outsider boundary. I've got a handful of other concerns about this, but that's my primary one. Some other ones... I'd rather not co-mingles the Apache brand with the personal web face of individuals in various subparts of the community. Our mission. Creating great software. Puzzling out how to do that productively in cooperative volunteer teams. Releasing that widely under a license that is both open. Crafting an effective open license. One that doesn't entrap folks. I have to do a lot of A supports B supports C supports D before I get to the conclusion that D, building out a mess of committer web pages, supports A, the mission of the foundation. I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not. Consider Sam's web log with where he's been poking at RSS - that's not a ASF position. Consider my web log with it's rants on the wealth distribution - that's not an ASF position. The easiest way to avoid a star stage is not to build the stage. - ben
Re: @apache web pages
Here is your missing link. Apache isn't about code bases or branding, its about software communities.. These are communities of humans. Such pages help these humans understand each other and build a stronger software development community. And it puts a face on apache. Hope that helps... there is an insider/outsider boundry as it is. Making it unspoken is worse. -Andy Ben Hyde wrote: It would be fun to have an Apache community aggregate of web logs, but I have trouble seeing how it serves the foundation's mission. Sorry to be a wet blanket... I'm concerned that if we create people.apache.org we create another inside/outsider boundary. I've got a handful of other concerns about this, but that's my primary one. Some other ones... I'd rather not co-mingles the Apache brand with the personal web face of individuals in various subparts of the community. Our mission. Creating great software. Puzzling out how to do that productively in cooperative volunteer teams. Releasing that widely under a license that is both open. Crafting an effective open license. One that doesn't entrap folks. I have to do a lot of A supports B supports C supports D before I get to the conclusion that D, building out a mess of committer web pages, supports A, the mission of the foundation. I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not. Consider Sam's web log with where he's been poking at RSS - that's not a ASF position. Consider my web log with it's rants on the wealth distribution - that's not an ASF position. The easiest way to avoid a star stage is not to build the stage. - ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: @apache web pages
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget this year :( I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon. I hope thats not spaced too close together... Next May in London please :) Actually no, early June. I'll be at a wedding in May. *still getting used to the complete lack of holiday in the US* Instate a mandatory 6 weeks of vacation a year! :-) -- Daniel Rall dlr@finemaltcoding.com
RE: @apache web pages
Here's mine: http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/ See ya, Tom -Original Message- From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:06 PM To: community@apache.org Subject: @apache web pages someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal web pages at cvs.apache.org (that being where all committers have accounts) and i'd like to refresh the idea in everyone's mind 'cuz i think it's a good one; help us get familiar with each other a bit, maybe. just put something in cvs.apache.org:$HOME/public_html .. from looking at it, there are almost 60 people who have at least set up the directory, if not put useful stuff in it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: @apache web pages
-Original Message- From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:06 PM To: community@apache.org Subject: @apache web pages someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal First I know of was jstrachan's: http://www.apache.org/~jstrachan Hen
Re: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)
Hi Henning, yeah, Munich or any other big city in the southern german area would be great. btw, what about a 'german division meeting'. I'm from Aalen (100km east of Stuttgart, 200km north of Munich) and would like to meet some other Apache fellows from germany...perhaps we can arrange something...perhaps even on a regular basis? any ideas or suggestions? Erik Von: Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organisation: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fÃ14r Mehrwertdienste mbH Antworten an: community@apache.org Datum: 13 Nov 2002 12:31:59 +0100 An: community@apache.org Betreff: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages) Hi, while it is still a 160 km drive from my place to munich, I'd love to have a meeting somewhere in the southern germany area. Munich would be good as some of the austrian developers (Martin?) might make it there. Any ideas for a date, though? Regards Henning On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 16:57, Luta, Raphael (VUN) wrote: De : Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget this year :( I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon. I hope thats not spaced too close together... I'd love to see more some more of Europe... Although I won't complain at all if its in Munich ;-) -- I like to stay at this little hotel that some of my German friends recommended to me for irony...on Im Tal near Isatorplatz between the McDonalds and Burger King within walking distance of the American Embassy of Beer (Hoffbrauhaus) As long as you avoid it during the Oktoberfest, Munich is a fine city. But then, it's well known that French people don't know anything about beer : -- Raphaël Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] INTERMETA - Gesellschaft für Mehrwertdienste mbH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)
Ok, we might want to pool the locations and find a spot in the middle. :-) So far we have Karlsruhe, Aalen and I'm located in Buckenhof which is for all useful purposes identical to Erlangen. Regards Henning On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:33, Erik Abele wrote: Hi Henning, yeah, Munich or any other big city in the southern german area would be great. btw, what about a 'german division meeting'. I'm from Aalen (100km east of Stuttgart, 200km north of Munich) and would like to meet some other Apache fellows from germany...perhaps we can arrange something...perhaps even on a regular basis? -- Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] INTERMETA - Gesellschaft für Mehrwertdienste mbH
RE: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)
Hi, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, while it is still a 160 km drive from my place to munich, I'd love to have a meeting somewhere in the southern germany area. Munich would be Munich is ok for me (280km from Karlsruhe) +1 (600 km from Essen) good as some of the austrian developers (Martin?) might make it there. Any ideas for a date, though? Sometime next year ;-) +1 Thomas Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@apache web pages
someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal web pages at cvs.apache.org (that being where all committers have accounts) and i'd like to refresh the idea in everyone's mind 'cuz i think it's a good one; help us get familiar with each other a bit, maybe. just put something in cvs.apache.org:$HOME/public_html .. from looking at it, there are almost 60 people who have at least set up the directory, if not put useful stuff in it.
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Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages generated from ONE central running copy of forrest. We won't have 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure! I'll demonstrate lack of impact on the server, and get blessings from people on infrastructure etc before scheduling this of course. Any volunteers for #1? Any forresters willing to help me out spelunking forrest? Could be one of the things that runs on cocoondev.org (the machine) - being equiped to run Java, and being proposed to be more officially affiliated/endorsed by (at least) the Cocoon community. But then of course it runs externally to daedalus, but having gone through this before, I would not hope for the possibility to run role-based/time-triggered/Java-based processes on daedalus/icarus. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
Re: @apache web pages
Hi, we could point people.apache.org there and make http://people.apache.org/~committer_name Regards Henning On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 01:05, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal web pages at cvs.apache.org (that being where all committers have accounts) and i'd like to refresh the idea in everyone's mind 'cuz i think it's a good one; help us get familiar with each other a bit, maybe. just put something in cvs.apache.org:$HOME/public_html .. from looking at it, there are almost 60 people who have at least set up the directory, if not put useful stuff in it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20
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Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory or something. Yellow-pages like front-page. that is a most excellent idea. i do not have the requisite karma to enact it, but +1 anyhow! http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html updated nightly from everyone who has a public_html/index.html .
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Ovidiu Predescu wrote: Or a script can identify what are the users that have home pages and generates the directory page automatically. This way there is no need to modify a config file, new users are automatically added once they have their home pages setup. heh, done in prototype. see my earlier mail.
Re: @apache web pages
Steven Noels wrote: How about people having a homepage at daedalus? i'd recommend that we settle on one place or the other, rather than having them scattered all about. and, since all committers (except php :-( have access to cvs.apache.org, and not everyone has access to daedalus, i recommend that the former be the place.
Re: @apache web pages
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget this year :( I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon. I hope thats not spaced too close together... Next May in London please :) Actually no, early June. I'll be at a wedding in May. *still getting used to the complete lack of holiday in the US* Hen
RE: @apache web pages
De : Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget this year :( I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon. I hope thats not spaced too close together... I'd love to see more some more of Europe... Although I won't complain at all if its in Munich ;-) -- I like to stay at this little hotel that some of my German friends recommended to me for irony...on Im Tal near Isatorplatz between the McDonalds and Burger King within walking distance of the American Embassy of Beer (Hoffbrauhaus) As long as you avoid it during the Oktoberfest, Munich is a fine city. But then, it's well known that French people don't know anything about beer : -- Raphaël Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/
