Re: New Status of the OpenPhoenux/GTA04 project
Le 04/09/2012 12:36, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : see: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/2012-September/91.html Great news, it's very impressive to see your dedication to this project! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v45
Great news! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: big leap forward: Case-Kit and 3D printed case
Very impressive ! Thanks for sharing this with us :))) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone has done a Comparison GTA02 GPS Antenna vs. Nokia N95?
Le 05/12/2011 10:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : We have seen that the N95 has a quite simple flexible PCB GPS antenna instead of the ceramic patch of the GTA0*. Does anyone of you own both, a N95 and GTA0*? Not sur if relevant, but I have a N9 and a GTA02v5 The key issue is not overall sensitivity or TTFF but direction independence. I.e. does it matter much or less to rotate the device by 90 degrees. Any experiences in our community? Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
Le 01/12/2011 19:10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : While I was formulating another mail, there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent a lot of money and time for the GTA04 to happen). Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. The money had been used to replace the unuseable GTA04A2 boards with GTA04A3 - and to distribute 4 of the EA boards to important developers in the community. The remaining money will be used for providing 4 additional developers with GTA04A4 boards as soon as the boards are produced. So let me say: thank you! Nikolaus PS: he is reading the lists :) Wow! Thanks you sir... uhhh, Anonymous Mc Awesome ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTAX
Le 28/11/2011 08:02, Philip Rhoades a écrit : People, Don't we need a larger form factor? Like a 4.5 screen? Has there been any discussion along these lines? Thanks, Phil. AFAIK changing screen size means : - changing video chip (or not, you can be software-accelerated only) - finding a new screen - changing case And surprisingly the last one is difficult : you need to design one (CAD ?) and then either you have a 3D printer to make your own case or you pay to produce a series of 1000 or more. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what do I install now?
On 26/11/2011 12:24, robin wrote: the problem I as a very semi-skilled programmer have with all of the distributions is that I haven't yet found any straight forward tutorials on how to create little apps/eg front ends for command line calls or so, so developing is out of range for me. This is a problem for lots of free software projects :( As a professional developer (my job) who works 5 days a week in a very well known-to-me environment I would love to see more free software projects having dumb tutorials to help bootstrapping and understanding these new environments. Because it really takes lot of free time just to go from hey nice software, I would like to help to ok now I can compile and run it in step-by-step mode on my own pc Xavier, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what do I install now?
On 26/11/2011 20:42, dmatthews.org wrote: I recently went back to using qtmoko after an extended try of SHR, which has come on in leaps and bounds although I found the way (at the moment) it (mis)handles text messages hugely annoying in the end. My attitude was I want to reduce my annoyance level with this charming device to about zero and I have more or less done that. However it took a good long while researching various aspects of Freerunner lore which I found only wirh some difficulty, scattered over several places. Am I right to think there's a good case for a resource ok I have a freerunner, now what. Or maybe the part of the whole world that has a freerunner already knows what to do and is more interested in gta-04 now. I'd be happy to host something myself if there was no other place to collate this sort of information That's why we have a wiki, but like all wikis it needs to be maintained. Maybe you can write your own page about your experiments and step by step it will become a nice entry point. I did one in French on my own wiki in august 2008 to keep notes of my discoveries ( http://wiki.troulite.fr/index.php?title=NeoFreerunner ) and it was useful for me. An english one on wiki.openmoko.org and kept up to date would be a nice thing to have (maybe it already exists ?) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nokia N9 and Meego
Thanks. I think I will order one soon :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Nokia N9 and Meego
Hi folks, is there anyone here following the Nokia N9, the new Nokia's phone with Meego ? What exactly is free-as-in-speech in this one ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Did somebody try to use a 3D printer to see what can be done with this kind of device ? Could we use one to make a case ? Xavier. Le 15/11/2010 15:00, Atilla Filiz a écrit : About the case. Would GeeksphoneONE/Zeus case fit us? I know they have a sliding keyboards but maybe we can work something out. Even better, I would love to see a full keyboard on my Neo. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 4:00 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com mailto:wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com mailto:h...@goldelico.com wrote: (one series of problems) We could solve that by adding a jump start resistor. Then, we soldered the OMAP3530 and Pop Memory chip and connected RS232: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00679.jpg It did identify itself as 40W on the RS232 (...) must fit into 64k SRAM built into the OMAP chip. So we are back to C64 times :) With this tool, we could identify that the (external) SDRAM (...) quite a long lead time. For the series version this will be very easy to fix. Un-be-lievable! Your updates read as detectives, I am looking forward to seeing the plot revolving and coming to a good end :-) Thanks again! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
Wow great news ! I will install it and use it in car as soon as possible to give you some feedback :) Le 02/09/2011 23:53, Mike Crash a écrit : Hello, after long hard work new version of MCNavi is here. There is a lot of changes, some functionality was removed (like tourist routes - will reappear in future in better way) due to many code changes, change in map format, change in converter, but more functionality was added. For example there is possibility to save bookmarks, save and load route (can be opened as standard GPX), save and load track logs, has faster routing, can show simple itinerary etc. For more information go to [1]. This is still beta, not all is done and some functionality may not work as expected. Currently I'm using it actively in car and on bike and it works quite good fro me. Currently only map of Czech republic can be downloaded, next version will add turn restrictions and (hope) stabilize map format for all 0.3.x versions. After that, more countries will be available for download (or on demand). I have released previous public version more than one year ago, but I wanted to release something usable, therefore the huge delay. Currently only Debian version can be installed out of the box, needs fso-gps and edje, but works with new libgps also. But you have to compile it yourself. [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MCNavi-0-3-1-released-tp6755455p6755455.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] How do you manage your free space ?
Hi folks, my operating system is on the internal memory, and all my data (maps, music) are on a 8Gb micro sd card. But if I want to install a standard Linux application with aptitude (something like tangogps for example) it will take almost all my free space (~100mo IIRC) because of dependencies. How do you manage your free space ? Did you put a part of your system on the micro sd too ? If yes which one ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: smartkeyboard and accented letter
I've got the same problem :( I would like to investigate but I don't know where to start... any keyboard expert here to give some clues ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to forward FreeRunner's audio ?
Le 21/06/2011 19:43, YoYo Siska a écrit : On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 02:58:39PM +0800, Fong Yuenshu wrote: case 1: I forward Xwindow to my Laptop already, when I dial someone on Laptop, but the sound came out from FR, and use FR's MIC. So, in this case, I want forward FR's sound to Laptop, and Laptop's MIC to FR. case 2: One of my desktop computer have no sound box, hence, I want forward Desktop's sound to FR. I did this when I forgot my normal earphones at home and took only the FR headset ... you can just install esd (esound) on FR (last time i tried it, it was in the shr feeds, but that was at least a year back), run it, connect FR to the laptop and run mplayer -ao esd:192.168.1.202 file.mp3 pulseaudio could be a bit more user friendly if can get it running, ie automatic discovery etc.. so that if you run it on FR and connect it to your laptop, it would just pop a message that a new remote soundcard is available... and you can move audiostreams from any application to that remote soundcard... I have that running between desktop and laptop... but it is still a bit unstable ;) and i don't think getting running it on FR would be easy... yoyo You can easily listen a mp3 file using some pipes and ssh. You can do (from your computer) : ssh you@freerunner cat file.mp3 | mpg123 - It will be parsed like this : - ssh you@freerunner cat file.mp3 : ssh runs on your computer, and try to execute cat file.mp3 on remote machine - then | mpg123 - : the output is redirected to your local mp3 player (mpg123 here) The same mechanism is often used by admins to transfer tar files over network (ssh distantPC tar something | untar locally) To play a collection you can use something like that : ssh you@freerunner find mp3folder -wholename \*Metallica\*.mp3 -print0 | xargs -p0 cat | mpg123 - It is a bit ugly but it should work if you just want to listen your music. For Fong Yuenshu's problem it is a bit more difficult, as he wants to redirect the whole soundsystem from the freerunner to a computer. It may be possible with some advanced sound daemon like esd or else... if you find a solution do not hesitate to share with us :) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery life with QtMoko
On 10/06/2011 17:45, Francesco De Vita wrote: Does anybody has flashed the latest QtMoko and can report something about battery standby time ? I remember Radek mention a serious improvment. thanks, Chris Hi! I didn't make any precise measure but I can say that my neo after 32 hours is in (very) low battery, I only sent few messages (sms) and I used the gps for 5 minutes. Regards Joif Hi, I've got the same kind of experience as Joif with my Freerunner / Qtmoko v35 / kernel 2.6.34 Regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Le 09/06/2011 15:27, Guilhem Bonnefille a écrit : Naïve question: why not using already package wordlists? I found that w* packages contain wordlist under /usr/share/dict/. And these one has a correct license. You can use them to generate .dawg files, as soon as you have qdawggen on your computer. I didn't have it, and I didn't wanted to compile Qtopia (or Qt ?) to get it so I was happy to find these ready-to-use dawg files. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 08/06/2011 13:59, Tomas Nackaerts wrote: I only have one problem: I'm unable to use the special characters like é or à and also symbols (.,?) do not work :-( Somebody ideas to solve this? Same problem for me alas, I cannot type ça because of the ç ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 08/06/2011 14:04, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Good news! First idea coming: we need to package this in many Debian packages. Where the word list came from? Other say: what is the licence? From here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/ You can get them (not in .dawg format) here : ftp://ftp.openwall.com/pub/ Licence is here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/LICENSE.shtml ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Le 07/06/2011 01:07, Neil Jerram a écrit : Hi there... On 6 June 2011 17:01, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: But currently I am still unable to use prediction :/ Just in case it is a cause for confusion - are you aware that the keyboard doesn't actually predict at all? Rather, it performs fuzzy matching of where you pressed against the possible letters around that point. (Whereas predicting would be something like offering me understand when I had only pressed near the letters unders.) I wrote about this a while back: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/030442.html. Regards, Neil Yep, as a previous user of this keyboard in SHR I am aware of that. But thanks for your message :) I used prediction because of a lack of a better term indeed. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 07/06/2011 21:58, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... It works with : http://kewlcat.no-ip.org/openmoko/words.dawg instead of the dict I used. It seems dictionary in debian *spell packages are not in dawg format, and you can generate a dawg file from a list of words using qdawggen (but you need to build Qt to get it)... or go there and be happy :) http://alasal.be/openmoko/keyboard/ Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
So you write on your screen with your nail instead of stylus, and you have a predictive behaviour ? How do you enable it ? Mine -- in french -- doesn't seem predictive at all. Maybe I need to add a dictionary somewhere... And the keyboard named Predictive keyboard (the one from SHR ?) doesn't seem to be predictive either :( Xavier. Le 05/06/2011 22:45, Francesco De Vita a écrit : The default predictive keyboard and my finger! (: I use the index like the stylus, the trick is to use just the tip of the fingernail. ..but I have to say, though I have trained, I'm still faster with my thumb on a common mobile keyboard with the T9 (: Joif 2011/6/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com mailto:omega.xav...@gmail.com Hi folks, what are your best tips to type text (not shell command, normal french text in my case) in Qtmoko, without being too slow if possible. Do you use any kind of predictive keyboards ? Or qwo maybe ? Kind regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Ok :/ We just need to find a way to make prediction work so ! On SHR you only had to install a dictionary of words somewhere, it should be the same here. It seems ( http://qtmoko.org/wiki/FAQ ) we can add unpredictive=0 in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/PredictiveKeyboard.conf and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) But currently I am still unable to use prediction :/ Xavier. Le 06/06/2011 13:17, Francesco De Vita a écrit : Sorry I was not precise: I use the predictive keyboard that is without the predictive behaviour, I write letter by letter. Joif 2011/6/6 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com mailto:omega.xav...@gmail.com So you write on your screen with your nail instead of stylus, and you have a predictive behaviour ? How do you enable it ? Mine -- in french -- doesn't seem predictive at all. Maybe I need to add a dictionary somewhere... And the keyboard named Predictive keyboard (the one from SHR ?) doesn't seem to be predictive either :( Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Hi folks, what are your best tips to type text (not shell command, normal french text in my case) in Qtmoko, without being too slow if possible. Do you use any kind of predictive keyboards ? Or qwo maybe ? Kind regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7
Hi folks, is there any way to force usb charging in QtMoko ? As there is no support for usb networking with Windows 7 (it seems to be disabled in QtMoko kernel), my Freerunner only gets 100ma while being plugged on my workplace computer through USB. How can I force it to gets 500ma ? As QtMoko (v35) seems to consume a bit more battery than my old SHR, I would like to be able to charge it during the day (without bringing the charger). Any idea ? I've spotted a Fast charge mod in the upper left menu (the one full of icons) but it seems to do nothing. Thanks in advance for help. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7
Le 24/05/2011 13:14, Radek Polak a écrit : On Tuesday 24 May 2011 12:18:05 Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, is there any way to force usb charging in QtMoko ? As there is no support for usb networking with Windows 7 (it seems to be disabled in QtMoko kernel), my Freerunner only gets 100ma while being plugged on my workplace computer through USB. I think RNDIS should be enabled, but i havent tried it for very long time and IIRC it worked only with winxp. I know it was possible with SHR (not with recent kernels) and Windows 7 at some time. How can I force it to gets 500ma ? As QtMoko (v35) seems to consume a bit more battery than my old SHR, I would like to be able to charge it during the day (without bringing the charger). If you put the phone to sleep, it should draw like 14mA, so you can charge with 86mA. Ok, very slow charging ongoing. I hope it will be good for this evening ^^' Any idea ? I've spotted a Fast charge mod in the upper left menu (the one full of icons) but it seems to do nothing. It's one of the original scripts from Qt Extended/Qtopia. I think the sysfs paths have changed since then. If you try om utility (from omhacks package) it could have parameter for enabling fast charge. Then you can edit the Fast charge mode script so that it uses om command (and send the result to me so that i can commit it as patch ;-). Thanks for the hint. As soon as I will be able to log through ssh I will try to find a way to make it work (86ma is probably not enough to start WiFi) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Contacts and SMS, how do they work ?
After several tests, some results : - How can I import contacts from .vcf file with long names + utf-8 encoding ? You cannot. There are some bugs in Qtopia addressbook : - you cannot use vCard 3.0 files encoded in utf-8, multibyte UTF-8 characters will be mangled in Qtopia addressbook - you cannot use vCard 2.1 files, utf-8 may be ok but import process crashes for other reasons unknown to me. The solution for me was to use a vCard 3.0 file re-encoded in iso8859-1 (:set fileencoding=iso8859-1 in vim), because everything I needed could be covered by iso8859-1. I can't see a solution if you really need utf-8, sorry. - If I do a bad manipulation, how can I do a rollback ? (restore an empty db, remove all junk entries without doing it one by one) ? Close Qtopia, and use sqlite client to clean database yourself (a backup before is always good): sqlite3 /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite delete from contactcategories; delete from contactaddresses; delete from contactcustom; delete from contactphonenumbers; delete from contacts; .quit - How can I hide or disable contacts from sim card ? I only want to use the one from my .vcf file (I manage them on my computer with kontact) It seems that the first time you install Qtopia your SIM contacts are loaded into Qtopia database (cf. upper). You can remove them definitively from Qtopia database using sqlite client. I tried to import a vcf file with something like : DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook /tmp/addressbook.vcf Additional note : you need to do source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env before, in order to load good environment variables Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Contacts and SMS, how do they work ?
No idea for these encoding problems ? Do I miss something obvious (like a package to install ?) Le 17/04/2011 13:05, Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Hi folks, I am trying to use v35 from sdcard, to see if I can migrate from SHR. And I need information about contacts and sms management in qtmoko. - How can I import contacts from .vcf file with long names + utf-8 encoding ? - If I do a bad manipulation, how can I do a rollback ? (restore an empty db, remove all junk entries without doing it one by one) ? - How can I hide or disable contacts from sim card ? I only want to use the one from my .vcf file (I manage them on my computer with kontact) - How can I hide or disable SMS from sim card ? I only want to use the sqlite database, not the sim card. I tried to import a vcf file with something like : DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook /tmp/addressbook.vcf but : - I see truncated names - bad encoding (problem with é ï É...) and I don't know if what I see is what I imported or what lies on my sim card. Thanks for help, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko]Problems with email client
Hi folks, I am currently testing v35 from sdcard, and I've got 2 problems with the email client. I cannot get all my emails from gmail through IMAP. I have to select a specific IMAP folder with few emails (100) in order to see the client doing something. If I try to get all my emails, or if I specify a bigger folder (1000) nothing happens. Too big ? Btw netstat tells me there is an established connection between my FR and imap.gmail.com, but nothing seems to happen. And then when I read my french emails there are some encoding problems. Does anyone know which package should be installed to manage ISO-8859-15 and UTF-8 ? Thanks in advance for any help, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] Contacts and SMS, how do they work ?
Hi folks, I am trying to use v35 from sdcard, to see if I can migrate from SHR. And I need information about contacts and sms management in qtmoko. - How can I import contacts from .vcf file with long names + utf-8 encoding ? - If I do a bad manipulation, how can I do a rollback ? (restore an empty db, remove all junk entries without doing it one by one) ? - How can I hide or disable contacts from sim card ? I only want to use the one from my .vcf file (I manage them on my computer with kontact) - How can I hide or disable SMS from sim card ? I only want to use the sqlite database, not the sim card. I tried to import a vcf file with something like : DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook /tmp/addressbook.vcf but : - I see truncated names - bad encoding (problem with é ï É...) and I don't know if what I see is what I imported or what lies on my sim card. Thanks for help, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] release candidate 1 for new SHR-testing 2011.1
Le 14/12/2010 18:41, Petr Vanek a écrit : Soon I will restore my custom settings (PIM, maps, keyboards) and report again. I would appreciate any feedback on this, as I don't know how to save/restore/transfer my SMS but really don't want to lost them. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#PIM_data Petr Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] release candidate 1 for new SHR-testing 2011.1
Le 12/12/2010 13:54, omcomali@porcupinefactory.org a écrit : Soon I will restore my custom settings (PIM, maps, keyboards) and report again. I would appreciate any feedback on this, as I don't know how to save/restore/transfer my SMS but really don't want to lost them. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Desktop icons de-arranged with recent image
Le 01/11/2010 22:44, Alexander Lehner a écrit : Today I flashed the Nov-01 shr and now all desktop icons are arranged only one column wide. Has anybody else seen this? A. Is this SHR usable ? Mine is a bit old (august IIRC) but works well, I don't know if I should upgrade or not... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backup battery and case screws questions
Le 24/10/2010 02:44, Benjamin Deering a écrit : Hi, Both of my Freerunners lose the time when the battery is removed for even a couple seconds. I am assuming this is due to worn out backup batteries. I have ordered replacements (they were marked HB414 and they were 2.40 each from digikey). I also got a better soldering iron for doing the install. Has anyone done this replacement before? any gotchas? Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws? Thanks, Ben I have the same problem here (losing time in a couple of seconds), I am interested in any feedback from your replacement :) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Babiloo and Swedish dictionary
Le 13/09/2010 09:41, David Garabana Barro a écrit : On Sábado, 11 de Septiembre de 2010 20:12:47 Xavier Cremaschi escribió: NB : it seems a bit better with estardict, but few dictionaries seem to be accepted by this soft... You can use dictconv (dictconv package in debian) for converting between dictionary formats It worked for me Thanks for the advice, I have converted my dictionaries now :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Babiloo and Swedish dictionary
Hi folks, I am French and I would appreciate to have a soft able to translate unknown Swedish words, as I will be in Göteborg next week. I installed babiloo (on shr unstable) and following dicts : http://sdict.com/en/dicts.php?lang=SVlanguage=Swedish to translate from and to English. But if I write här, babiloo can't find here as a valid translation. If I put here in the reverse dict, babiloo finds hit, här. It seems I am unable to input words with diacritics (I can write them, using the right keyboard layout). Any idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Babiloo and Swedish dictionary
NB : it seems a bit better with estardict, but few dictionaries seem to be accepted by this soft... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to maximize GPS battery life ?
Hi folks, if I want to use my FR as a GPS track logger (for an OSM mapping party for example), what is the best way to save battery life ? It seems that GPS chip is able to keep the fix while FR is suspended (/sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/keep_on_in_suspend), but I need the CPU to log data, don't I ? Currently, I think I would do something like this : - shut down GSM (FR is also my phone) - launch fsoraw -r GPS tangogps and start logging - let the FR disable display after 30s (problem : any touch on screen will keep it up) Any idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
Any idea to test it in qemu ? It seems great but I need to keep my phone operational... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
Le 30/08/2010 12:26, Radek Polak a écrit : On Monday 30 August 2010 11:25:35 Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Any idea to test it in qemu ? It seems great but I need to keep my phone operational... What about testing on SD card? Regards Radek Why not, I just need to backup mine (or buy a new one). But I see some reference to u-boot_glamo242.udfu, and I use qi... your advice ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
Le 18/08/2010 13:08, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak a écrit : Maybe we should enable it by default? Are there any disadventages? Some security issues (some side effects) but I don't think it's relevant for us. Basically on your computer when $DISPLAY is :0.0 your X server is listening to a UNIX socket (/tmp/.X11-unix/X0 indeed, you can check your /tmp) When you do some X11 forwarding there are 2 things : - a network connection between X client (on faraway machine) and X server (on here machine) - an authentication With the 'old school' system (cf. my previous message) you do : faraway$ DISPLAY=here:0 my_application to establish the (non-encrypted) connection between faraway and here For the authentication, your X server usually accepts the X client from faraway because you did a : here$ xhost +faraway But that's for the 'old school' system. Now what about ssh -X ? While doing ssh -X to go on your Freerunner, you can see your Freerunner's $DISPLAY is :10.0, which corresponds to a local TCP socket (local on Freerunner) opened by the ssh server. faraway$ lsof -ni TCP:6010 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME sshd15663 root9u IPv4 437835 TCP 127.0.0.1:6010(LISTEN) Any connection to 127.0.0.1:6010/TCP will be redirected through ssh from your freerunner to your computer's /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 socket. That's for the (encrypted) connection. For authentication, there is a secret shared between X server and X clients called magic-cookie and managed by the xauth application. You can do xauth list $DISPLAY on your computer to see it. This secret is stored in ~/.Xauthority (be careful with permission on this file) If you do a ssh -X -vv (verbose) you will see your ssh client calling xauth to get this magic-cookie (something like debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/bin/X11/xauth list :0.0 . 2/dev/null) So why some distributions set X11Forwarding to 'no' ? Because if your Freerunner is *compromised*, someone can control the Xauthority file and therefore he can connect to the 6010/TCP socket. Which is linked to your computer's UNIX socket. == he has a kind a back channel to access to your computer's X server. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
Basically, you need a computer with : - a working X server (mainly Xorg) - a working ssh client with -X option (mainly openssh-client) (Note for working X server on cygwin : be sure to launch xterm, not the basic tty) a Freerunner with : - a working X client (the app you want to launch, tangogps for example) - a working ssh server with X11Forwarding yes in its config (for openssh-server it's in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, be sure to restart ssh server after any modification to this file) Then give us any error you can see while doing your ssh -X. On the freerunner, and after a ssh -X, $DISPLAY should NOT be : localhost:0 because it's the X server of the freerunner, but it should be something like : localhost:10.0 which is where ssh server listen to transmit your display data to ssh client. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
To continue : if you want to do it 'old school' without ssh -X doing the job for you, you need to authorize your X server to accept distant X clients To authorize X server of here to display application running on faraway, you need to do (here$ is the prompt) : here$ xhost +faraway Then you need to log yourself on faraway (ssh without -X nor -Y, rsh, telnet, xterm on freerunner...) and launch your application with a good $DISPLAY faraway$ DISPLAY=here:0 my_application If it does not work : - either faraway doesn't allow the X client to go out (firewall ?) - or here has its X server running with -nolisten tcp and therefore refuses any connection If you have -nolisten tcp (check with ps), you can remove it but it depends on how you launch your X server : - if you use startx, check your /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (or ~/.xserverrc) - if you use gdm, launch gdmconfig and check security options) - if you use kdm or xdm, I don't know :S If you want to control the freerunner desktop from your PC, you could use vnc. On the freerunner you start x11vnc : faraway$ x11vnc but NOT from a ssh -X, you don't want any redirection here. On your pc you start your vnc client : here$vncviewer faraway:0 Xavier. PS : use ip addresses instead of names like here and faraway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
I forgot an important thing : network must work of course (first thing to check) ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Le 13/08/2010 11:37, Matthias Apitz a écrit : Wrong question, for me. I will not use any other 'smartphone' (computerphone), which: - is not Linux or FreeBSD driven and open as Linux/FreeBSD are normaly - does not have X11 - does not provide access by SSH to the system - does not have a resistive touchscreen (to address single pixel) So, an iPhone is no option for me; if my Freerunner will fail, I will try to get it working again, and I will wait until the next generation of OpenSource phones, even if I would have to reactivate my old Siemens S10 for some time, meanwhile waiting. Give me UNIX or give me a pencil :-) matthias Well written. Same thing here for me (but I don't care about touchscreen being capacitive or resistive). Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
My 2 cents : Inkscape + shell script - Inkscape can open vectorial image, svg or even pdf - Inkscape can export vectorial image in png - Inkscape can be use from command line About Inkscape pdf import functions : http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Current_PDF_Support If pdf import fails, you need to find a pdf to svg tool to be able to use Inkscape later (maybe imagemagick, maybe some pdf tools like pdftk or xpdf-util, maybe gimp, maybe firefox). Check http://www.calcmaster.net/personal_projects/pdf2svg/ About inkscape in command line : man inkscape Maybe there is a zoom param or something like that which will allow you to render part of your image. Xavier. Le 05/08/2010 11:16, Kevin Zuber a écrit : Dear Openmoko Community, I want to create some personal maps for viewing on the freerunner GPS application (like tangogps). All available maps (open streetmap and google maps etc.) does not meet my demands, so I want to create one myself. The map I need shows the depth of a lake. (In Germany it's called a Tiefenkarte - depth map) An example can be found here: http://www.mueritz-fisch.de/downloads/Tiefenkarten/Müritz.pdf or http://www.mueritz-fisch.de/downloads/Tiefenkarten/Feisnecksee.pdf After looking at the map cache of tangogps, I assume that I need to create a picture of the map and then split this pictures into smaller ones (.png) and put them into numbered directories in connection with the GPS coordinates. I need to do this for different zoom levels. I'm very happy about _every_ hint how I can get this done most easily. I guess that doing all that manual it would need a very long time. Thank you very much. Kev ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
Le 05/08/2010 11:44, David Garabana Barro a écrit : Why not contributing to OSM? That's the sense of a free map... He may want to control the render of the map. I think contributing to OSM then developping your own rendering tool is not that easy. But yes you could add your data to OSM, it's never a bad thing to do ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Shoutcast player on SHR ?
Hi folks, I would like to use my FR for ambiance music (in role playing game session for example) What is the best app to add and manage shoutcasts like http://www.radiorivendell.com/page/listen/ ? I use podboy for my podcasts, and intone for my music files. I thought (wrongly) that vagalume was the right soft to use but it's a lastfm client and not a shoutcast app indeed. Any idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2+4+2 timing seemed to disrupt access to the sdcard
Le 26/07/2010 10:58, Helge Hafting a écrit : First, lots of WSODs. This required lots of suspending (or reboot) without seeing the screen. This is not always possible, so lots of battery removal. I think the power button is a standard ATX button, if you keep it pressed for few seconds (5 ?) it should power off your Freerunner :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rolling dices on OpenMoko
On 26/07/2010 10:40, Michael Smith wrote: All of my applications including this one: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/mkrpn/ ...build their own packages. It needs a simple script ipkg-build.sh which should be commonly available. You should be able to copy my code to do what you want. Thanks very much ! So here is a link to install alea : opkg install http://www.troulite.fr/~xav/freerunner/alea_0.1_all.ipk As mentioned in previous mail, there is a layout bug in second panel : app becomes larger than 480px when formula becomes larger too. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Rolling dices on OpenMoko
Hi folks, a new application will be soon available for SHR (as soon as I understood how to build a package) : alea alea is a dice rolling application that you could use for role playing game. It's a very simple application which uses python-elementary -- no 3D at all, I would have love it but not enough time nor motivation --, here are some screenshots : Main page : you click on dices and score is automatically updated. If you need more dices, click on Add. There are 2 complete dice sets, but no more so buttons are big enough. http://imgur.com/8qxok.png This should limits the number of action to do in order to roll few dices. Second page (advanced) : a pad to enter a formula, like 5d6+5 Used formula are accessible through history, if you need to roll them several times during your game (but it's not saved on disk, you have to keep it running). http://imgur.com/Xth92.png This should be useful for big roll. Bug known : as formula becomes big, Roll button shrinks. I still don't understand totally elementary :/ Todo list : * allow to click on score to see details for each dice (some games requires to keep only certain dices) * add a '-' button hidden behind the '+' one (barely useful) * maybe a roll sound and a persistent history I will try to add it to SHR repository, but I don't understand what I need to do to achieve this. I hope you will like it, Xavier Cremaschi. PS : many thanks to podboy project, which is useful to discover how python-elementary and elementary work :) PPS : https://svn.troulite.fr/alea/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shr-messages, bubble style ?
Hi folks, is there any project to change shr-messages GUI ? If you browse : http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary you can see a nice use of the bubble widget : http://download.enlightenment.org/att/wiki/Elementary/elm-app-02.2.png I think it would be cool to be able to view a discussion in shr-messages, and not only one isolated message. Xavier (currently learning python-elementary) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
PISI and/or opimd, and utf-8
Hi folks, I can't import my contacts from an utf-8 vcf file into opimd (shr-t of end of may) with PISI. I had the same problem one year ago IIRC... : ** Error: Changes to source 2 (OPIMD) could not be applied due to the following reason: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 30: ordinal not in range(128) Any solution ? How do you manage your contacts ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI and/or opimd, and utf-8
On 19/07/2010 22:12, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, I can't import my contacts from an utf-8 vcf file into opimd (shr-t of end of may) with PISI. I had the same problem one year ago IIRC... : ** Error: Changes to source 2 (OPIMD) could not be applied due to the following reason: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 30: ordinal not in range(128) Any solution ? How do you manage your contacts ? Xavier. I answer myself : export LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 seems to be the thing to do... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
I've got quite the same pb here, with intone - 0.66+svnr76-r3.4 I can play a song, but if I pause it and try to play another song from another folder it stops responding... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cpu reclocking to 500Mhz, overclocking to 533Mhz, performance tests and bootloader images
Impressive indeed, I think I will try the safe overclock soon :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SAMSUNG - possible project - help needed
Le 24/06/2010 18:52, David Lanzendörfer a écrit : What is your suggestion for this feature list? Components proposition would be very nice. Few hardware buttons but a bit more than Freerunner which has only 2. What I would like to do without software interaction : control volume (mute/lower/louder) Touchscreen must be big and usable with fingers, so no edge (even if edges allow us to have screen face to table without damaging screen) A fuck**g huge battery, because all smartphones have a too small autonomy. They all miss a mode oops few battery left, let just be a dumb phone and save autonomy which could be useful when you're far from civilization. I liked my old (but far too big) Nokia 9210 for battery life because it had 2 modes : - smartphone mode (with big colored screen and all) when shell opened - classic phone (kind of Nokia 3310, small blackwhite lcd screen) when shell closed. It could last 3 weeks in this mode. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Ventura] att wifi hotspot portal (Starbucks)
Le 26/05/2010 06:12, undrwater a écrit : I'm sure I remember logging into the att portal at starbucks in the past using Ventura, but lately it's not possible. Pressing the login button, hitting enter returns no action. Is it a certificate I'm missing? Any clues? Thanks Russell Dwiggins Check /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt /etc/ssl/certs/ca.pem maybe... IIRC, one of these was missing some time ago, therefore no https. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ringtone volume, intone boost, no alsa files
Hi folks,
I also missed some calls because of a too low ringtone.
Keeping Intone running seems to work, but then my FR can't go in sleep
mode (and it's good : I forbade it with fsoraw because I didn't want my
phone to go in sleep mode while listening some music)
Any idea to raise ringtone volume ?
Maybe modifying stereout.alsa ?
BTW I cannot find any .alsa files on my SHR-U (updated a few days ago)
Thanks for any help,
Xavier.
On 01/11/2009 12:45, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
Hi!
I was always wondering why I miss sometimes phonecalls.
Then today, I discovered, that when intone is running, and
I level up the volume, the phone ringing is much more
louder when intone is not running.
I tried to level up the volume through fso-simplemixer.py,
but even at '101' percent, is not as much loud as with intone
running.
If I launch intone while the phone is ringing, then the ringing
become louder, and if I quit then it get quiter.
What is really stranger, that intone set the volume through amixer:
src/dbus-stuff.c:100
sprintf(cmd, amixer -c 0 set PCM %d%s, vol, \%\n);
And in my /usr/share/shr/scenarii/stereout.state file,
the PCM value is already at maximum(255):
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Volume'
value.0 255
value.1 255
}
What I miss? Any idea?
Best regards,
Laszlo
ps: since I discovered this, intone is always running.
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Re: ringtone volume, intone boost, no alsa files
Forgot to add : changing volume from 0 to 100 in shr-settings/profile seems to do nothing :/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ringtone volume, intone boost, no alsa files
Le 20/05/2010 10:17, Al Johnson a écrit : On Thursday 20 May 2010, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: BTW I cannot find any .alsa files on my SHR-U (updated a few days ago) They used to be .state files, but lost that extension when the format changed and the files were moved. I don't think they've ever been .alsa though. My bad, .state of course. Due to upgrades, changing locations and a change of name for the package containing the files I've ended up with them in more than one place, and i'm not sure what the correct one is at the moment. This should find it for you though. find / -name stereoout Indeed. /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.29/stereoout /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.31/stereoout /etc/freesmartphone/conf/htc_qualcomm_dream/alsa-default/stereoout I presume the first one is the good one, because it's not a HTC and kernel is 2.6.29 Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR : fullscreen mode for applications ?
Le 13/05/2010 22:29, GNUtoo a écrit : simply bind the power key to fullscreen in illume settings Denis. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR : fullscreen mode for applications ?
Hi folks, the GameRunner distribution (kudos !) made me want to play chess again, so I installed xboard/gnuchess on my SHR. But because of the enlightenment top shelf, the board is not as big as possible (it's bigger in GameRunner). Do you have any idea to launch a software in fullscreen mode/always on top ? I know it's possible, tangogps has a fullscreen mode. Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM registration failed
Hi folks, I made an upgrade from testing to unstable Saturday in the afternoon, and I lost the ability to register on GSM network. A workaround seems to configure the loglevel in /etc/framework.conf from INFO to DEBUG. It works well, but currently my frameworkd.log weighs 6.3M and fsodeviced.log 5.5M They get bigger and bigger... any idea to avoid an incoming catastrophe ? Thanks, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working
Wifi seems unavailable, but after seeking the ML I found there is a bug in FSO MS5 (MS5 is the revision ?) and I had to do : echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind in order to get eth0 back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-t] typing sms over ssh
On 23/04/2010 18:41, YoYo Siska wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 06:30:37PM +0200, YoYo Siska wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 01:58:21PM +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Le 23/04/2010 11:56, n...@el-hennig.de a écrit : Just a question : is there any way to launch phoneui-messages through ssh -X ? It keeps ignoring $DISPLAY and displays itself on FR screen... IIRC I was able to do that previously... maybe an alterantive would be using thone... http://code.google.com/p/thone/ No thanks, I need to launch phoneui-messages, not to send a message over ssh (console tools would be pertinent then) The phone apps are displayed by an ui daemon app. IIRC it's called phoneuid and starts on X startup, connects to the local DISPLAY and phoneui-message and others just tell it to pop up the respective windows. You could however try stopping it (killall phoneuid), then running it on your ssh forwarded display and then running phoneui-messages... You will have to kill it then again and run it on the freerunner's DISPLAY to have your apps work on freerunner again. one more thing: you may even just try to run a second phoneuid on your display (without killing the local one). I don't know if the fso deamons/protocol allows multiple gui clients to control the phone functions... but my guess is that it could work... yoyo Thanks, killing phoneuid did the job. I don't know how to specify the good phoneuid when you have 2 running... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-t] Big update, safe or not ?
Le 18/03/2010 17:23, Sander van Grieken a écrit : On Thursday 18 March 2010 17:17:21 Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 05:14:08PM +0100, Sander van Grieken wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2010 15:34:42 n...@el-hennig.de wrote: But today I've tried an 'opkg update' and now I see : $opkg list-upgradable | wc -l 682 Will such a big upgrade be ok or do I have to wait until Sunday (more time to fix borken things) ? You should consider to upgrade in more than one step, as space in /tmp is limited. Or simply create a tempdir on the SD card and upgrade using opkg -t /media/card/tmp upgrade or permanentrly update tmp_dir option in /etc/opkg/opkg.conf for better location if default /var/lib/opkg/tmp doesn't suit you Solutions above in increasing level of convenience :) :) So I did my upgrade yesterday (720 packages) and it went fine. Changing tmp_dir option in /etc/opkg/opkg.conf was mandatory because tmp files during this update were ~100mo. My contacts were ok because my SIM has always been empty and my contacts were already in opimdb. I had to install myself fso-gpsd (for tangogps), I think opkg uninstalled it (tangogps worked before update). Wifi seems unavailable, but after seeking the ML I found there is a bug in FSO MS5 (MS5 is the revision ?) and I had to do : echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind in order to get eth0 back. Any way to fix it permanently ? Everything else work, kudos to SHR team because I did an upgrade from a SHR-t dated from early january 2010 and I was (almost) sure such a big update would destroy my FR. But it didn't. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-t] typing sms over ssh
Just a question : is there any way to launch phoneui-messages through ssh -X ? It keeps ignoring $DISPLAY and displays itself on FR screen... IIRC I was able to do that previously... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-t] typing sms over ssh
Le 23/04/2010 11:56, n...@el-hennig.de a écrit : Just a question : is there any way to launch phoneui-messages through ssh -X ? It keeps ignoring $DISPLAY and displays itself on FR screen... IIRC I was able to do that previously... maybe an alterantive would be using thone... http://code.google.com/p/thone/ No thanks, I need to launch phoneui-messages, not to send a message over ssh (console tools would be pertinent then) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!
:P funny PS : kmz = google earth file Le 13/04/2010 09:06, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : I have finally found where the shape and visual appearance of the Neo1973 and Freerunner come from: BR, Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: beautiful qt based
Le 08/04/2010 13:12, Christoph Pulster a écrit : http://th30z.netsons.org/2009/03/openmoko-my-phone-video-preview/ I wonder if this could be merged with qtmoko ;) excellent idea - this is exactly what Openmoko missed to do to get more interested customers (besides geeks). I check status of Openmoko and come to the result: OM Inc.: zombie Community: nearly dead sales: 2/week (talking as the major distributor) project customers: gone, disappointed of all the bugs and problems lets wake up, the game is over :-( Chris How many FR did you sell since the beginning ? It would be cool to know the number of FR in the world btw... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3D in EFL (Rolling dices on OpenMoko)
EFL can use opengl for its rendering (not on openmoko, because it seems we don't have an opengl-es driver). What do you mean by 3d ? Can I modelize cube, sphere, and do some projective geometry ? In elementary I cannot find an equivalent of an opengl context (QGLWidget in qt4), if someone has an idea ? Le 09/03/2010 02:04, Steven Le Roux a écrit : EFL does 3D too :) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com mailto:omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/03/2010 19:43, Davide Scaini wrote: give a try asking to mokomaze developer... I think he should give you lots of answers... maybe :) d Thanks, very good idea indeed ! Mokomaze can be a perfect model, I will read the source :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr mailto:ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info mailto:ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Bass-Rework = Headset Audio Quality Enhancement available in EU
Is it possible to do bass-fix and 1024-fix on a device which had already been to Munchen to be buzz-fixed, or does it involve too many soldering operation to be reliable ? Thanks for providing this service btw. Regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-t] Big update, safe or not ?
Hi folks, my distribution was installed in January 2010, and for some time there were no update in shr-testing branch. But today I've tried an 'opkg update' and now I see : $opkg list-upgradable | wc -l 682 Will such a big upgrade be ok or do I have to wait until Sunday (more time to fix borken things) ? Thanks in advance for any advice, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rolling dices on OpenMoko
Some elements : - mokomaze relies on libsdl - ODE can be used to simulate dice physic : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcfG5uxSOw - http://www.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/achxo/i_want_to_simulate_the_physics_of_dice_rolling/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Rolling dices on OpenMoko
Hi folks, I would like to develop a free software to roll dices (for role playing games). My inspiration comes from : http://www.machwerx.com/apps/MachDice/ which seems to be a very great soft ! Lot of nice ideas, but only for iPhone :( I don't think I could make something better than this soft, which is the result of lots of nice ideas (if you compare v1 and v2 you can see the evolution), but -- being a coder and a role playing gamer -- here are my goals : - using MachDice ideas (entering formulas, having a formula history, having workspaces, can block dices...), because these are great ideas and I don't think it worth trying to find a better conception. MachDice author you're a clever guy, kudos! - a good looking soft, but with low graphics to fit openmoko abilities - a portable software, because openmoko and non-openmoko users could be interested (except iPhone users who already have this soft). - having fun coding it (I don't think I will use it, I love rolling real dices :P) About coding : - for 3D : OpenGl or ??? - for non-3D : Qt4 or EFL. I am not sure about using OpenGl or not... I know the tech, and OpenGl would be great when soft runs on PC, but what about openmoko ? AFAIK, because of a lack of OpenGl ES support, any OpenGl app would run on mesa/software-acceleration-by-cpu. Without OpenGl I don't know how I can do 3d, any idea ? For Qt4 vs EFL : - qt4 is ok for ~all linux distribs, windows, and QtMoko (I think). What about SHR ? - elf is ok for ~all linux distribs (I think), SHR, and some packages exists for windows (http://fr.enlightenment.org/2009/05/31/efl-installateur-windows-xp/) so portability is ok (linux = main target for me) Thanks in advance for any advice (^^) Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rolling dices on OpenMoko
On 08/03/2010 19:43, Davide Scaini wrote: give a try asking to mokomaze developer... I think he should give you lots of answers... maybe :) d Thanks, very good idea indeed ! Mokomaze can be a perfect model, I will read the source :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mcnavi maps and ipk
Le 27/02/2010 20:57, Pau Espin Pedrol a écrit : Is someone willing to build a map for Spain and upload it so I can try? :D Same question for France :D ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On 06/02/2010 15:51, Neil Jerram wrote: On 2 December 2009 13:47,r...@1407.org wrote: 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 rather than in 2: * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2 * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 I just rediscovered this improvement, by playing with alsamixer; then found this existing thread by googling. So: yes, I can confirm that changing 'Mic Sidetone Mux' from 'Mic 2' to 'Right PGA' improves call audio for my callees. My wife even described it as 'quite fine' :-). Regards, Neil But if you use the speaker (intone, podboy, mplayer...), don't you have sound only in one side (right in your case) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town
Martin Jansa a écrit : On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 04:33:21PM +0100, n...@el-hennig.de wrote: Then this is probably another issue for you, because the regression in MG (reiseplanner) was caused by the use of new tags in OSM which weren't added to MG. Does your OSM map version match navit's revision? If you use an old OSM map, or a newer OSM map with a given revision of navit, it may fail to work because of changes in the datas. the planet.bin I use is from January 15th. BTW : there are daily build of navit for the FR here : http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ They are built nightly, but it's also possible to trigger a build during the day. I know! The problem is that in the SHR feeds the navit packages have an additional versioning which allows the installation of the svn packages only, if you disable the feeds before. Please test it from this files and let me know.. if everything works I'll push it to oe.dev and then build it in official shr-u feeds. (change preferred locale) Upgrading navit on root from 1:0.1.0+svnr2902-r5.4.4 to 1:0.1.0+svnr2934-r5.4.4... Downloading http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/navit_0.1.0+svnr2934-r5.4.4_armv4t.ipk Upgrading navit-locale-cs on root from 1:0.1.0+svnr2902-r5.4.4 to 1:0.1.0+svnr2934-r5.4.4... Downloading http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/navit-locale-cs_0.1.0+svnr2934-r5.4.4_armv4t.ipk Upgrading navit-icons on root from 0.1.0+svnr2871-r1.4 to 0.1.0+svnr2927-r1.4... Downloading http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/navit-icons_0.1.0+svnr2927-r1.4_all.ipk Cheers, SHR-t here, so I cannot test :( But I really hope it will solve the pb ! Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit: * libgthread-2.0-0 (= 2.22.4) * libgmodule-2.0-0 (= 2.22.4) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.22.4) * libgio-2.0-0 (= 2.22.4) * libpixman-1-0 (= 0.17.4) * libpng12-0 (= 1.2.41) * libgobject-2.0-0 (= 2.22.4) * libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.10) * ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town
No one ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town
Hi folks, everything is in the title. distrib : shr testing locale : LC=fr_FR.UTF-8 navit version : 1:0.1.0+svnr2846-r4.0.4 mapset : Reiseplanner mapset enabled=yes map type=mg enabled=yes data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/ map type=mg enabled=no data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/smp1.smp/ map type=mg enabled=yes data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/smp2.smp/ map type=mg enabled=no data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/smp3.smp/ map type=mg enabled=no data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/smp4.smp/ map type=mg enabled=no data=/home/root/Maps/DEM.map/smp5.smp/ /mapset r...@om-gta02 ~ $ navit vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Trying to connect to localhost:default vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 evwatch=0xb2360 navit:main_real:Using '/usr/share/navit/navit.xml' ...then I try to search for a town... gui_internal:gui_internal_search_list_set_default_country:country France gui_internal:gui_internal_search_changed:Town now 'A' gui_internal:gui_internal_search_changed:process map_mg:town_attr_get:town.c:108 assertion failed:1==0 Aborted It does not crash with openstreetmap bin file btw. Any idea ? Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town
Timo Juhani Lindfors a écrit : Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com writes: It does not crash with openstreetmap bin file btw. Any idea ? Can you make it crash also on x86? It works on my pc (debian, 0.2.0~svn2897+dfsg.1-1, same maps). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ventura and https
c_c a écrit : Hi, Can some users confirm the version of webkit that works? I have v1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4 installed and I get an 'unable to create webview' error in eve. Thanks Hi, libwebkit-1.0-2 - 1.1.16+svnr50081-r50081-r0.4 here (shr testing). It seems fine. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?
Neil Jerram a écrit : The best I've found so far is to call my work voicemail, speak to it, and get it to play my recording back to me. But that's still costing a bit. Any better ideas? Same thing here, but with my own number. In one shot I can leave a message, listen it, delete it. And it's cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser and https
c_c a écrit : @Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the browser from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages. I see nothing in terminal : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser restoring state db ver 1 showing window Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser and https
Josh Thompson a écrit : On Friday January 22, 2010, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: c_c a écrit : @Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the browser from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages. I see nothing in terminal : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser restoring state db ver 1 showing window Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action) I was having the same problem and launched browser with strace. I found I was just missing /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt. I copied that in from my desktop machine. After that, I was able to access https sites. Josh Nice ! It works now... I thought certificates came with curl-certs, but I didn't have any /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt indeed... Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser and https
c_c a écrit : Hi, As far as https pages are concerned they work for me. I went through an old post by trevino about getting https pages working with webkit browsers [1]. Here's how :- 1. get the latest version of libcurl4 and curl-certs from angstrom. 2. install them 3. surf https pages. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/OE-Getting-the-curl-based-apps-Webkit-browsers-working-with-HTTPS-tp337ef1958.html Here's the proof :- http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4400179/Screenshot-1.png Screenshot-1.png Doesn't work for me :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-t] Some tips needed
Hi folks, I am back on SHR since yesterday, and I need some tips to tweak it a bit. But firstly, kudos to SHR team for their work. I used SHR until September 2009, then QtMoko until December, then Android until yesterday. SHR was quite slow and needed some tweaking, but now -- testing branch 14 january 2010 -- everything works out of the box (GPS, wifi, phone, songs) and it's faster (even more if you put the new kernel without debug/preempt) and with nice volume controls while calling ! My questions (from most important to less one): - phone goes to sleep mode when tangogps is up and running. How could I prevent that ? IIRC, there was a way to lock a hardware resource isn't it ? - during a test call, my voice was a bit too loud. So I lowered the mic volume while calling and it was better, but I think this setting has not been saved. Is it normal ? - desktop scrolling is still slow (alas), what were the effects to disable or the theme to use to make it a bit faster ? - midori has huge scroll bars (why a horizontal one ?), is there a way to optimize the useful viewable area ? Or can you recommend any other browser maybe ? Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] Some tips needed
Thanks Marcin and Yorick ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, since july 2008 (rev5, buzzfixed one year later) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR for a long time, Android currently (very comfy + great browser/wifi) If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) You're welcome. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Received SMS going unnoticed
But are the accelerometers enabled when FR is in sleep mode ? Because if you have to wake up the FR to enable them then it's faster to read your phone screen :P Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts
Hi folks, reverse problem now : I want to migrate contacts from paroli to VCF. What would be the best solution for me ? Thanks, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
DJDAS a écrit : ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures. If E, because of an ambitious design, is unable to perform this on the freerunner, then it's simply not a good fit. You can say that the hardware does not fit E or that E does not fit the hardware, the fact is we have much more free software to run on the freerunner that free hardware to run E. Finally! This was my point of view nothing else! :) Thank you for explaining in a simple manner :) Bye But E *is able to perform this*, in a better way than the other solutions. You seem to think E is an ambitious/too complicated/too slow piece of software. You are obviously wrong here. E is an optimized piece of software, probably the best one when you have hard constraints (like on mobile devices). Use a theme with -- as you wrote -- some simple widgets and you will see that E is the fastest one. And stop comparing E in SHR/Om2009 (complicated multi layer theme for a not so good look) with QtMoko (simple theme for a good look), because being 2x faster when you display 3x simpler widgets is not significant. Xavier :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
DJDAS a écrit : Sorry but which part of from the user's point of view doing complicated calculations that result in a slower display is useless is not clear? I don't care E optimizations and beautiful algorithms if I simply CANNOT USE THEM or use them at the price of speediness and smoothness, they're simply useless! You can't tell me you've written the best software in the world if I can't use it or I have to limit it to the worst software, it's a loosing approach, you dropped your energy in something useless. This is what I claim Raster is wrong, nothing more (maybe using rude words ok, but this is the point). He says if you run on a limited hardware my software, to obtain the SAME results of Qt you cannot use my calculations and optimizations so what? This is equals to say you cannot use my software not my software is well written, do you agree with this? Bye. No. From the user point of view, a recipe : - take SHR or Om2009 - put a simple theme instead of the default one - notice it's very fast Where is the part with the user who cannot use this or that ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer
Dan Staley a écrit : I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I get my new myth system migrated. Has anyone else tried this? I'm bet you could run mythtranscode to change the video streams to something reasonable for the freerunner Also, if nothing else, I bet it could play music from your mythbackend pretty well... -Dan Staley I tried to watch TV from freerunner+deb...@microsd+mythtv-frontend Nothing else but a black screen :D Btw I confirm that mythtv recordings are MPEG2 TS (transport stream) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
DJDAS a écrit : It never NEVER worked in an acceptable manner in EVERY my desktop system since 4 years (with nVidia graphics cards, not GLAMO or Freerunner), Compiz+XFCE are light-years way faster and optimized than that E's bunch of uncommented and always-in.beta (and not standards compliant) code... Please don't fool our brains and simply admit you are not able to work on embedded systems as on desktop (and personally I've got some doubts even on this). I beg to differ, your personal experience is not mine (E17 being damn fast comparing to xfce). E17 is fuck**g fast on limited hardware. I can't accept to read something like my code is highly optimized BUT as you have a shi**y device you cannot run on it unless you deactivate all its featuresgo work in Micro$oft and write their optimized Aero GUI pretending to work on a 10Ghz quadcore Cray processor with 1TB RAM and 4 graphics card Be serious please... I think you miss the point : - qtmoko/qtopia is pretty because of good skin and good uniformity - qt in qtmoko is very simple (for example no transparency, no fancy controls...) - E17 as used in shr/om200x uses more advanced things than qt in QtMoko - E17 as used in shr/om200x is not as pretty as qt in qtmoko (well done qtopia team !) If you put the same things in both qt and E17 -- for example if you try to mimic qtmoko gui with E17 and if you disable everything in E17 that is useless in order to produce qtmoko gui-- E17 will be faster. A fast FR means a simple GUI and QtMoko is simple and pretty... I would say it's well balanced indeed, it fits well the FR. But E17 displaying same simple gui controls would be faster, no doubt. Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
In our geeky daily life we are able to access to Wikipedia anywhere (home, work, transport), on high-res full color devices (computer, phones...). Because hi-tech and Internet/Phone are everywhere. This device gives you : - offline access to Wikipedia - on a cheap device (it could be cheaper if the company were bigger I presume) - which uses AAA batteries, available anywhere in the world. We (US/EU/Jap) almost don't care about these 3 points, so I can understand the omg fuck**g useless I've already got a wikipedia apps on my iPhone, with images, colors and ponnies!. But (IMHO) this device represents a new way to distribute Wikipedia. Let's see the existing ones : - a computer + internet : you need electricity, phone, Internet, a computer (+ knowledge to use it) - a computer + dvd : the same but you have removed the phone/Internet dependency - a smartphone (with or without provider) + an ebook reader software : usually naked phone are a bit costly, but it could be cheaper than a computer. You will need specific batteries when yours will die. - a true ebook reader : ~= smartphone+software but easier to use I presume (I don't know if there is an existing ebook reader able to read Wikipedia but it seems a good solution) - a real book (still a good way, maybe a bit heavy because of Wikipedia size) The wikireader : - AAA batteries - 3 buttons, and supposedly easy to use - open soft and hard (I presume), sturdy Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap (not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the device... (ebook reader feature someone ?) Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
As read on slashdot : [...] at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back to the dark ages? This thing. [...] :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
