Re: is FDOM unstable
Hi +1 FDOM is a good dmonstration of what can be done, but I encountered exactly the same instabilities/bugs/slow downs. This is why I keep Qtopia for now (waiting for a good GPS application..) 2008/11/9 Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems
Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as needed. What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo writing the current lat/lon), and because no server x, there are few applications for it now. 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this solved already? kimaidou wrote: Hi For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended distribution. 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software status I just played around with different distros but didn't use it as a phone. This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start anymore (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) ) So i decided to cange my simcard and put it into the freerunner. I flased it with yesterdays FSO (09-11-08). First impression was good, zone started, I entered my pin and registered to Interkom (O2 Germany) I was able to receive and make test-calls. But now.. after one day of usage.. I've got a lot of small problems. The most important for now: - I can suspend by pressing the power button, but when i resume with the power-Button, zhone displays its graphical suspend-feedbeck step1. I have to press power another few seconds to get rid of this. - The phone wakes up on incoming calls, but: zhone displays this feedback-thing again. The phone keeps ringing, but it doesn't react on the power button to get rid of the feedback-thing, and it doesn't react on touchscreen-presses to answer the call. - I can't send the phone to suspend-state if I want to be able to receive calls. - I send it to suspend yesterday evening. When I woke up today morning, the phone was on, I had a enlightmend crash-message and I wasn't connected to O2 anymore. When I clicked on recover enlightment keeped crashing, I had to poweroff and restart my freerunner. - Today I got some incoming calls.. at leased one of them was almost unable to understand me because of the echo The echo might be because of some unusable alsa states.. the phone sounds like with the hands-free option turned on, everyone in the same room can listen to the call. How can I change this? Are there any patches / workarounds for the other problems? Regards, Christoph Simolka ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems
I follow the guide on the wiki to install it on the sd card : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Option_2:_Dual-Booting_between_Qtopia_and_2007.2_.28Qtopia_boots_from_MicroSD_card.29 It worked pretty well for me ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: idea: accelerometer daemon
Hi the potentiel of these accelerometer is great, but I need some help to really understand what can be done with them. I mean for now i know openmoocow, gestures What can I do with theses recognized gestures ? Load a command, call my mother ? I don't wnat to sound against their use, but for example, I prefer to take the fridge door with my hand and pull instead of yelling at the door open !. For now, I miss some great examples. Some ideas : * level ? (like with the air bubles to check the horizontality/verticality of devices) * sport training : jogging * wii - like video games remote controller * some more ?. By the way, I found this interested python scriptfrom thomas wood which read the accell values : http://blogs.gnome.org/thos/2008/07/01/openmoko-freerunner-test-application/ 2008/11/10 Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mickey, I've talked with Daniel recently and told him that I was working on recognizing contexts. For that I'm using self-organizing maps (Nokia is using these for gesture recognition) and I'll try to recognize walking, running, walking up/down stairs etc. Just wanted you to know that I'm continuing my work towards gestures, and walking patterns for the Neo :) This year I'm working on contexts like said before, but next year I'll try to merge hidden Markov models and self-organizing maps for gesture recognition. These SOM are amazing because you don't need to train them, it just adapts using unsupervised learning. I'm eager to see what will come out of it... Thanks, Paul On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Monday 10 November 2008 14:14:45 schrieb Atilla Filiz: I don't know if there is any work towards this anyway, i think having an acc daemon like gpsd would be nice. The daemon can check for blocking in acc.meters and reset the hardware if necessary, and serve multiple clients(which is not very likely actually). This way maybe we can have more quality acc applications, if using them becomes easier and more stable. We already have the amazing gesture recognition daemon by P.V.Borza which is pending integration with the frameworkd. I think most applications will not want to read the accellerometer data directly, but rather react to signals in terms of gestures. Those (few) applications that do need direct access can read from the input device nodes directly. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)
About the buzzin issue, I would like to be sure : is it or is it not hardware related ? I heard about a soldering fix of one electronic component which could get rid of the interferences... Has anyone more information ? Kimaidou 2008/11/17 Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/14 Gothnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It really needs work on the basics. I mean, responsiveness is not there, interface is dodgy (the end call button being in the same spot as the accept call button, and being unresponsive, made me hang up s many calls). Echo on calls, battery life... These are all small issues as such, as they are all on the software side and many have been either fixed or are different on different distributions (you don't need to use Openmoko's distribution - you can use Debian, Qt Extended, SHR, ...). You will find echo fixed in Openmoko's 2008.11 release, if you keep using the Openmoko distro, and responsiveness and touch screen usability will also improve with 2008.11 release. End call / accept call stuff are just UI things, easy to fix, but maybe you should file a bug report about it since otherwise no-one might notice. The buzzing issue is the only real, serious issue. Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? Yes :) Any unresponsiveness in the UI is not because of the X. I think maybe I had the wrong impression about the state of the software when I bought it. Probably. It's not a phone product yet, it's a phone in development. From your point of view I can understand the frustration with the other issues, but for me they are just a few things to work on / test fixes. The buzzing / hw issue is really the only thing I'm worried about, since it needs to be fixed and there is no known software fix for it yet. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)
It does require special skills and tools. If the posts in the hardware list were not enough for you to see the fix then you shouldn't attempt it. Angus Hum Sorry to ask again, but.. A solution has been found ? Or this solderings and pin things are for tests purposes only ? If the solution is ok, * I know some electronician guys, but they would need proper schemes (not pictures). * or I can send back my FR and try to ask my provider to repair it ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: us network and Uuntu 8.10 - is there a better way?
Hi all Personaly I lauch this script after pluging the FR: #! /bin/sh sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 sudo ifconfig usb0 up ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf I collect the different lines on the wiki, and it works well for me. Could you give it a try ? kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: us network and Uuntu 8.10 - is there a better way?
Hi guys could you please add the procedure on the wiki so that every ubuntero could easily plug/unplug his FR ? thanks in advance 2008/11/25 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:46, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also be aware that the Network Manager in Ubuntu Intrepid is currently buggy. If you have it running, it is prone to do friendly things like automatically add the static IP and route for eth0 to usb0 when it comes up. Either it controls all interfaces, or it's not running, right now it refuses to leave any interface alone and hopelessly bungles anything statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces, ignoring the 'ignore interface' flag and claiming all interfaces. (yeah, same IP and route on two interfaces, and default tries to go out the wrong interface so the desktop is effectively off the network, and it leaves behind an empty /etc/resolv.conf - sounds like a FreeRunner :) Thanks, I did wonder what I did wrong on my computer to have default network route directed to freerunner as soon as I plugged it in ! (so no more internet access) I am not used to linux networking, so it took me a while to figure how to manually delete this rule... (and the network manager UI was not of a great help... not so user friendly !) Network manager also rewrites /etc/resolv.conf with empty line, effectively preventing DNS from working. So I just uninstaled it and now I feel much safer. It's not needed on a standalone computer anyway. -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. SIPez LLC. SIP VoIP, IM and Presence Consulting http://www.SIPez.com tel: +1 (617) 273-4000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: us network and Uuntu 8.10 - is there a better way?
Could be great indeed !! Thanks for the information ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: send/receive files via bluetooth in NEO
Thanks for your answer and sorry for my rushing post. I did not want to put pressure on you :-) I just wanted to promote the opkg.org website, so that no great piece of code will be lost in the mailing list archives. Thanks anyway 2008/12/2 Erin Yueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] kimaidou wrote: That is a great news ! When you ui is finished, could you propose your soft to the opkg.org http://opkg.org software list ? yeah, sure! --Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neon 0.9 : Code name 'Minimal'
Hi guys, I am using omview, but I am pleased to hear there is another soft for viewing images : we will have the choice ! In omview, the developer chose to change the display wether the image is portrait or landscape. So in fullscreen, the image is always using the most space it is possible too. Il like this choice. Sure, you have to turn the freerunner for landcape images, but I think with such a small screen (good, but small), it is better to view the image the biggest possible. Kimaidou 2008/12/16 KaZeR ka...@altern.org -Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Nathan Kinkade :-) I know, I was just being a smartass. I'm using omnewrotate and at the moment neon doesn't seem to handle it quite right. At the moment I get a jumble of menus , buttons and part of the image all overlapping. http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko/neon_screenshot_normal.png http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko/neon_screenshot_rotated.png That said, this program is just released and so far look really amazing. I tried it too, and actually you're right. Using both gives garbled display. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Graphical text editor ?
Hi all I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi. It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I am looking for : * Wrap text at the end of line * Line number show * graphical way of selecting files to open. I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ? The best would be a port of scite on the FR Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird
Hi thanks for your feedback ! Does it work on SHR, or only on Om distos ? Kimaidou 2008/12/19 Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com Hey, I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to everyone. I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run into this problem yet. The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just import the VCF into your contacts app. I had a lot of problems with this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match what 'addressbook' is looking for. Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm this, I will add it to the wiki. 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s) 2: From your terminal, run: sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf new.vcf 3: From your OpenMoko, run: addressbook new.vcf Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird
Ok giorgio Thanks for your reply. So I will wait a bit :) 2008/12/19 Giorgio Marci ledz...@writeme.com Vcf file contacts impork works only on OM based distribution and Qtopia/Qtextended. SHR is based on frameworkd that doesn't suppoert (yet) contacts import. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a *Free* Account at www.mail.com http://www.mail.com/Product.aspx! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical text editor ?
Hi Sam Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ? 2008/12/19 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net 2008/12/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi. It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I am looking for : * Wrap text at the end of line * Line number show * graphical way of selecting files to open. I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ? gvim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community radios_073d.sh Description: Bourne shell script ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/Debian] Update to BtGPS.py
Hi Angus What about putting this app on the opkg.org website, so people would easily find it ? Thanks anyway for sharing your work kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Hi all, I am glad people (re-)start to talk about keyboards. 2 points: * Another great improvement compared to the iphone, illume, etc. ones, would be to have a transparent keyboard, using the whole screen, but allowing to see through it. Of course we need the transparency % to be changed by the user. What about the technical feasibility of that ? Would it be possible ? I thing for example about the Qwo keyboard ( http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html ) which would be very finger friendly in full screen (like the other one) * I don't get how the dictionnary (illume and qtopia) actually helps to write some word. In mobile phones, on which you have only 9 numbers to type, so 3 letters by number, the T9 dictionnary was really helpfull, because it showed a list of words possible with the combination of the letters entered. I could actually write sms faster with only 9 keys than now with a complete qwerty keyboard because the buttons were much bigger and I had only 9 button to search among. Here with the FR, the eyes and brain must locate the desired letter among much more and much smaller keys. And furthermore, I don't see the point with the dictionnary. The dictionnary only shows words with the same number of letters as the ones entered. So it does not provide a way to easily choose a word (for example, when I type for it must show for, forest, force, etc., but with the illume keyboard it only shows for and other useless words like :big, fit, die, but, etc.-- not very related to for ) People using OpenOffice Writer with the autocompletion activated will understand what I am trying to explain with my limited english skills.. My 2 cents :) , of course in a constructive way Kimaidou 2009/1/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:08:41 +0530 Shashank Bharadwaj shanka@gmail.com babbled: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:15 + Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net babbled: Hello there, Pascal d'Hermilly wrote: With 2008.12 release, a well working finger-friendly keyboard is the most critical missing feature for me. I've made a mockup of a keyboard that I think would make things a lot easier to type. http://dhermilly.dk/pascal/openmoko/keyboard%20mockup.png I think, the current Raster's Keyboard great for potrait mode. For landscape mode(i.e holding neo sideways) however, the keyboard does not utilize the extra space. What we need is, imho, a keyboard that would increase in size to take up the extra space in this landscape mode. That way we'll be able to type even faster. If we could add that fuctionality to raster's keyboard, then it'd be just great. that's a matter of just fixing the code to handle resizing appropriately. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Woua ! THAT is a complete explanation ! It shows well the complexity and power of the illume keyboard method. I apologize for not having well understand this before. I will now definitely use the keyboard, and improve my dictionnary as I type. Thanks a lot for the complete explanation 2009/1/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:50:38 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com babbled: Hi all, I am glad people (re-)start to talk about keyboards. 2 points: * Another great improvement compared to the iphone, illume, etc. ones, would be to have a transparent keyboard, using the whole screen, but allowing to see through it. Of course we need the transparency % to be changed by the user. What about the technical feasibility of that ? Would it be possible ? I thing for example about the Qwo keyboard ( http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html ) which would be very finger friendly in full screen (like the other one) not possible without compositing. not to mention the absolute HORROR of now having to mix keyboard input with controlling the apps under it - which is it u do? press the key or the ok button thats visible thru the key? compositing is not a viable thing on the freerunner - u'll need a much lower res to make it sane and even then it'll be really pushing it at qvga on the 2442. * I don't get how the dictionnary (illume and qtopia) actually helps to write some word. In mobile phones, on which you have only 9 numbers to type, so 3 letters by number, the T9 dictionnary was really helpfull, because it showed a list of words possible with the combination of the letters entered. I could actually write sms faster with only 9 keys than now with a complete qwerty keyboard because the buttons were much bigger and I had only 9 button to search among. Here with the FR, the eyes and brain must locate the desired letter among much more and much smaller keys. And furthermore, I don't see the point with the dictionnary. The dictionnary only shows words with the same number of letters as the ones entered. So it does not provide a way to easily choose a word (for example, when I type for it must show for, forest, force, etc., but with the illume keyboard it only shows for and other useless words like :big, fit, die, but, etc.-- not very related to for ) People using OpenOffice Writer with the autocompletion activated will understand what I am trying to explain with my limited english skills.. ok. let me draw u a keyboard (or part of it): q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m i want to type dog. for this example i will only use english as the example - but it applies to all languages actually. now lets say i press d (i want to type dog), then o then g. but look at the keyboard - i may not EXACTLY hit d, o and g. i probably hit them or something near them, so ad i try and hit d i may hit e, and i may hit k and not o, and h instead of g, so i actually hit: ekh that's not dog! of course not. but it also is not any word in english (in the dictionary) so obviously.. it must be wrong. i meant something else. now lets stand back. first key i press e is near d. it's also near r, s, w, and f. let's write the possible keys i may have intended as a list per keystroke: e, d, r, s, w, f now for k (when i meant o): k, i, u, j, m, l, o and for h (when i meant g): h, y, u, j, n, b, g ok so now for every keystroke i have a list of possible keys near where i pressed that i may have meant (again i have simplified this - in reality the list of keys per press is more like 10-15 possible keys as it has a large search area - this is the fuzz value in the .kbd file - it determines how far the fuzzy matching should search in virtual keyboard units). now what we do is start checking all combinations of all the letters per key stroke, so we first try: ekh - wrong eih - wrong euh - wrong ejh - wrong emh - wrong elh - wrong eoh - wrong eky - wrong eiy - wrong euy - wrong ejy - wrong emy - wrong ely - wrong eoy - wrong ekh - wrong eiu - wrong euu - wrong eju - wrong emu - BINGO! a real word! elu - wrong eou - wrong ekj - wrong eij - wrong etc. in the end if you search permutations you'd get a list of words that match emu, fig, dig, fly, sky, fog, rig, sob, dog, ... and so on. now we have a list of words i possibly wanted that match. (its very much like the 2 == avc, 3 == def, 4 == ghi, 5 == jkl etc. - but its not based on mapping 26 letters to just 8 numbers on a numberpad - because you have no actual numberpad - its just a surface you tap on and you have a co-ordinate where you press. so you dont NEED to map it that way - you can just present a qwerty layout and just search for nearby keys u may have wanted to hit. anyway - this is the simple version. now.. things get more complex. lets go over the keys i possible wanted to hit again
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Hi I like the idea to create a new layout with the well known phone arrangement : [] [abc] [def] [ghi] [jkl] [mno] [pqrs] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
SorrI just sent it to fast: here is the end of my message : 2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi I like the idea to create a new layout with the well known phone arrangement : [] [abc] [def] [ghi] [jkl] [mno] [pqrs] [tuv] [wxyz] Do you think it will help to type faster with illume keyboard ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/Debian] Update to BtGPS.py
If you suggest me to enter the application in opkg, i will say why not, but I think the author is the best person to do it. This way he can give the link to website, better explain the app, and give a link to an .ipk file instead of a python file if he wants to. Not having yet the knowledge for creating a package, I cannot do it. But I got your point, and I think you are right. 2009/1/6 Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr Le mardi 06 janvier 2009, kimaidou a écrit : Hi Angus What about putting this app on the opkg.org website, so people would easily find it ? Thanks anyway for sharing your work I would like to kindly share my recent experience with opkg.org. Entering or updating an application page is really simple. Just fill a form with half a dozen fields. Anybody can do it, it does not need to be done by the author. I recon it is not as simple as writing an email to ask someone else to do it, but almost ;) ... Yours, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi Oh yes, please take pictures and give feedback to help people understand the process and evaluate its feasibility. Thanks in advance :D 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org Hello Community, Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. If any of you have some last minute advice to give me, I take :) I can take pictures and make a report of my experience if you think that's necessary. I don't know so just tell me. Bye. -- Yoann ARNAUD Nantes, France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Hi Kieran, +1 for your idea : a toggle fullscreen button would be a great improvement. I still consider a transparent keyboard will be a good stuff too. By transparent, I don't mean you can click on the interface under , I mean you can see what you are writting under the keyboard, but cannot have an action on the things under. With you toggle fullscreen button, the transparent keyboard would be an improvement. 2009/1/6 Kieran Fleming kieran.flem...@gmail.com The most interesting thing about this mockup for me is that it doesn't try to make the rest of the UI usable. It reminds me of this keyboard: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/keyboard/screenshots/100.png Where the entire screen is a keyboard. Perhaps a good way to get this idea working would be to have a fullscreen button on the existing keyboard so you can toggle it when you want to. Kieran Fleming ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?
Hi Timo Thanks for your feedback on monitoring the reception quality. Is it possible to create a script which display the number each 5 seconds, so that we can actually see the evolution of the reception as moving the phone ? I am no coder, so I don't know how to do it. The best would be to display the value fullscreen in big size. Anyone can please code this ? Here is my very small start #!/bin/sh mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 I think a loop must be added... Thanks anyway Kimaidou 2009/1/6 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: The last few days, people have constantly complained about a loud, high-pitched noise when I call them. I presume it's the 'ahrdware buzz' we're talking about here. The buzz seems to be proportional to the transmit power which itself seems to be proportional to the reception quality I can monitor with mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 According to specs these units are # 0-113 dBm or less # 1-111 dBm # 2...30 -109... -53 dBm # 31 -51 dBm or greater # 99 not known or not detectable and when it is around 26 or more the recipient does not hear the buzz here anymore. Thus, to mitigate the effect I can monitor the reception quality during call and align myself so that the quality is as high as possible (just going near a window helps a lot). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?
Hi ! thanks for your help So basically, I need 2 files : * one ~/bin/loop as described in your email : #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep 2 done * And one monitorgsm with only the complete line (not splitted) such as: #!/bin/sh mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 then I can do in the terminal : loop monitorgsm ? 2009/1/6 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 Just make sure this is a complete line and not split to multiple lines as it was in your mail. I think a loop must be added... my ~/bin/loop does #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep 2 done so I can just loop gsm-strength, loop energy, loop temperature or loop consumption. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?
Hi I just tested, and it worked like a charm ! Just don't forget to chmod +x the 2 scripts Thanks a lot ! 2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi ! thanks for your help So basically, I need 2 files : * one ~/bin/loop as described in your email : #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep 2 done * And one monitorgsm with only the complete line (not splitted) such as: #!/bin/sh mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 then I can do in the terminal : loop monitorgsm ? 2009/1/6 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 Just make sure this is a complete line and not split to multiple lines as it was in your mail. I think a loop must be added... my ~/bin/loop does #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep 2 done so I can just loop gsm-strength, loop energy, loop temperature or loop consumption. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/Debian] Update to BtGPS.py
I see you have already create a ipk and put it on opkg.org ! I am impressed by the reactivity of the openmoko community ! Opensource projects rocks ! Thanks again ! 2009/1/6 Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com I'll try to put an opkg together today. Anyone talented with the gimp feel like making an icon for it ? Angus -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO-SHR]sms-sentry : questions
Hi all, hi Angus Thanks for putting sms-sentry in the opkg database. I have just installed it, and downloaded the sources. http://handheldshell.com/software/fso/sms-sentry.ph I have one question : in the file sms-sentry.default, there is: PASSWORD=12345 but I haven't seen the use of this password in the python nor the sh file. Could you please tell us how to use the password ? Thanks in advance By the way, there is another project dealing with actions commited by sms reception = sms-middleware http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/ There is a plugin which seems to do the same as sms-sentry http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/wiki/GPSPositionRequest But the link to dowload the python file is dead. Is it the same project or are theses 2 completely different ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO-SHR] SMS-Middleware - Need Help
Hi all I am trying to use Sms-Middleware http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/ which theoritically allows you to load actions when receiving sms with key codes. For example : filter sms from your mum, run any shell command , etc. It is very promising for me, so I tried to install the last ipk on my updated SHR(testing). I haven't seen any email to contact the authors, so I hope they receive the community list. After the installation, I have 2 new icons on the desktop : SMG and SMM. SMG : I can load the first one, but I have not understand how to use it. The only response I get is with the button install plugin. When I do install a plugin (rpc.py for example), I still cannot view it on the plugin list. SMM : when I click on this SMM icon on the desktop, I get an error, and nothing loads. That is where I am now. Has anyone tried this software ? Is it still under developpement (I saw the last ipk was released on august) ? thanks in advance for any help kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO-SHR] SMS-Middleware - Need Help
Hi again Since I had no answer, I re send my first email, hoping this very interesting tool is successfully used by someone :-) 2009/1/8 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all I am trying to use Sms-Middleware http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/ which theoritically allows you to load actions when receiving sms with key codes. For example : filter sms from your mum, run any shell command , etc. It is very promising for me, so I tried to install the last ipk on my updated SHR(testing). I haven't seen any email to contact the authors, so I hope they receive the community list. After the installation, I have 2 new icons on the desktop : SMG and SMM. SMG : I can load the first one, but I have not understand how to use it. The only response I get is with the button install plugin. When I do install a plugin (rpc.py for example), I still cannot view it on the plugin list. SMM : when I click on this SMM icon on the desktop, I get an error, and nothing loads. That is where I am now. Has anyone tried this software ? Is it still under developpement (I saw the last ipk was released on august) ? thanks in advance for any help kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
Hi +1 for the package in opkg thanks in advance 2009/1/11 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net can someone package this in an opkg? pottwal4 wrote: Hi again. pottwal4 wrote: r...@om-gta02:~# mplayer -vo xover:glamo -fs /media/card/big_buck_bunny_320.avi mplayer doesn't know on which display it should open the video. Try (one line): DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -vo xover:glamo -fs /media/card/big_buck_bunny_320.avi Thanks Daniel, you was right! There was a problem concerning the $DISPLAY-Variable. But there was an other one, which I fixed, choosing the output device -vo glamo instead of -vo xover:glamo. So for everyone, how cares this what I do to get the example video running on the freerunner (inspired by http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player;): 1. Download an unpack mplayer-glamo (http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2) 2. Write a short bash-script vidplay to start the video (and save it on the Freerunner and make it executable (with chmod +x vidplay)): #!/bin/sh DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -display :0 --output default --mode 240x320 mplayer -vo glamo $1 /dev/null xrandr -display :0 --output default --mode 480x640 reset 3. Encode a video-file on my PC with: mencoder video-file -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-.025,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr -o video-file-FR.avi 4. Transfer this file from PC to Freerunner (using scp) scp video-file r...@phone:/media/card/ 5. Considering that the video-start-script and the video-file are now both located on the Freerunner in directory /media/card/, start the video with: cd /media/card ./vidplay video-file ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Hi all No offense, but could you please rename the topic with patents something instead of keyboard mockup ? I let you choose the right one though. thanks in advance. 2009/1/15 Arthur Marsh arthur.ma...@internode.on.net Chris Samuel wrote, on 2009-01-13 18:42: On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 5:11:45 am Stefan Monnier wrote: [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. Where everyone can read them and the protection expires after a time. Don't get me wrong, I think patents are bad, especially these days where the techniques are often obsolete before the patent expires. :-( But the software patent is undecipherable gobbledegook rather than GPL-mandated copy of source code in its usual form for editing and development including sensible variable names, comments, makefiles, build scripts and everything that is not already available in other GPL packages to make it run. Arthur (trying to give the black knight of software patents another flesh wound). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
+1 for QWO. It is on opkg.org http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html 2009/1/15 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net arne anka ha scritto: Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that good? IMHO the best one I've never seen I became very fast after few days (now I have a counter problem, as I'm too fast doing gestures that I make much mistakes :P) It's very customizable and (almost for latin people) you can add accented letters and other key codesUsing it in terminal too with no effort...try it ;) Bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPSDproxy: send GPS data from gpsd to a remote server
Hi You can also have a client application for visualizing the data, such as Qgis, an opensource GIS wich can connect to a Posgis database (and create/modify data). http://www.qgis.org/ 2009/1/18 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz I released a little software to proxy GPS data read from gpsd to a remote server. I use it to store my live track on a Postgres database (running on my home server) via GPRS connection. this is really cool :) anybody know of a server side implementation for data visualization, something like is used for aprs (gps/weather etc data sent via radio)? , for example aprs.fi? -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Hi list I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. I would like to know if someone had or could package the sources for the freerunner ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Hi all For those under SHR, you need to add the scaredycat repository to install openmoko-dates2 and openmoko-task2. To do so : cd /etc/opkg wget http://buildhost.automated.it/scaredycat.conf opkg update And then opkg install openmoko-dates2 openmoko-tasks2 Feedback compared to the ubuntu version : * In Tasks, - I am not able to add a category. - I cannot add a description * I have not tested Dates yes 2009/1/20 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:45:24 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote: I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. i think this is a continuation of their famous DateBk for palm. i have been using this since 2002 and although there is competitive software for palm out there, DateBk really rocks. They charged about 20USD for it which i paid twice and never regretted that. Making it working on fr would be really cool! Petr hmm, seems that pimlicosoftware.com and pimlico-project.org have no connection. just confusingly similar project names... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo
Thanks very much to both of you 2009/1/22 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com Just uploaded the ipk file Rafael sent me: http://www.opkg.org/package_107.html Regards, Tobias On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 04:36, Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello Marco, --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now we want to share a version for Neo devices. Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate the dual-touch (and so to use both the right and the left flippers together): Simply, while playing, move away the play option and then place between the left flipper and the right flipper buttons a listener for the mouse pointer (something like an event box). So, if the pointer is between the right and the left flipper (i.e. if the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make both the flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should move before than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on the right or on the left). Good idea :) I was thinking about dual-touch but I didn't like my ideas, so I am going to develop your idea if there is not another bettter ;-) PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :) Yeah, we would like more size eh? :) But when I work with scroll and bigger sizes the game is not fluent :( I started with a smaller size and I after some improvements in the code I got the current size.. I am not sure if I will be able to have nice scroll with bigger sizes, but I will my best ;-) (we already know the problems with graphics there). Moreover I could avoid the scroll using the whole screen but I like the scroll because the game loses action if the table is fixed and only the ball is moving. Thanks for your feedback, Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
Another thing I noticed is the phone doesn't want to suspend from the power button menu. It just says it's going to suspend and then does nothing. Same thing for me. Every time I try to suspend with the power button menu, this happens to me. But if I let the system suspends automatically after the time set from the settings app, it works like a charm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi Yoan, I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some feedback on your attemp : * did you succeed ? * is the buzz canceled ? * have you taken photographs on your work ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org kimaidou a écrit : Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf -- Yoann ARNAUD Nantes, France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi all Thanks Yoann for the pictures. I just looked at them, and I have the same question : what is the other component you solder on the right side ? Is it for repairing a previous unattempted desoldering ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
Hi About the scrollbar, it is much to thin to be reachable with the finger. I proposed an enhancement in the trac : make the right scrollbar twice (or 3 times) bigger, so that all soft needing it become more finger friendly Kimaidou 2009/1/29 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com 3) Today (29 Jan 2009) I did an opkg update and opkg upgrade and Mofi Wifi hangs when I run it, even before the menu comes up. Is this known? What could be a fix? Will wicd be ported to SHR? With new frameworkd you firstly have to set WiFi to on in shr-settings. 4) Sometimes the scroll bar on the left is gold (see contacts) and sometimes it is black (see settings). Scrollbar from contacts is from etk theme; scrollbar from shr-settings is from elementary theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
I don't totally disagree, but for now scrolling in SHR is painfull. I tried Qextended, and the scroll (eg in contacts) is smoothy and efficient ! I also proposed shortcuts in another trac for contacts : http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/292 2009/1/29 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 19:37, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: About the scrollbar, it is much to thin to be reachable with the finger. I proposed an enhancement in the trac : make the right scrollbar twice (or 3 times) bigger, so that all soft needing it become more finger friendly In elementary (shr-settings), scrollbar is not reachable at all, because it is not supposed to. For me, scrollbar in contacts should look and behave like one from elementary, so I don't agree. It's only wasting of space, and there are better ways to navigate than scrollbar and finger scrolling (like alphabetic filtering in contacts etc.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Hi Dylan, First of all, thanks a lot for sharing your work. Do you mind to add you new version to www.opkg.org, so that the links (and updates) are not lost in the mailing list ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] latest unstable does really work???
You can try this : echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf And then a ping www.google.com should work (it does for me) 2009/1/30 Alexandre Girard alx.gir...@gmail.com Same here, but a least I don't have more echo on the phone. To set IPv4 from the openmoko terminal: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 I can ssh but can't ping google.com from the OM, any idea? I've tried to set the ip of my gateway machine (192.168.0.200) in /etc/ Resolv.conf, with no success. Alex On 30/01/2009, at 14:51, Tony Berth wrote: just installed the latest unstable and when booting, networking was fine but after re-start I can't ssh to FR any more. IPv4 is not set any more! Any ideas? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] latest unstable does really work???
I think you should try to add the 3 w : ping www.google.com 2009/1/30 Alexandre Girard alx.gir...@gmail.com I've tried, maybe it comes fron the internet share on my mac side? r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ping google.com ping: bad address 'google.com' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12
A question : is it ok to run it on SHR unstable ? Won't it break anything ? thanks for your share Kimaidou 2009/2/2 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com Thanks. I am going to try this tomorrow. Rakshat On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi! I wrote a script to install all kinds of cool stuff to a clean 2008.12 installation on Freerunner. For more information: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/kustomizer-for-openmoko-200812 The script itself is at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer Feel free to try play improve it! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly on screen keyboard
Hi Could you please tell us how to install it on Hackable ? And how to use it as the default keyboard pressing Aux ? In your first mail, you described a opkg installation. Thanks Kimaidou 2009/2/2 kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.com Does anyone have any feedback on my keyboard? Good things, Bad Things? So far I haven't seen another keyboard that is as easy to use with your fingers, But I haven't really gotten any feedback from others who have used it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
Thanks a lot MQY
This works great with all the apps using the grey theme. But, for the apps
using the golden theme, it does not. (eg Contacts). Could you please tell
me how to change the scrollbar size for this them too ?
Thanks a lot, it is improving SHR finger friendlyness a lot
2009/2/1 mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com
A temp solution is:
create file .gtkrc-2.0 in use home dir, and add the following contents:
style scroll
{
GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 25
}
class * style scroll
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Re: [debian] opera mini .. ?
Hi all I tried this application on a windows mobile smartphone, and the zoom functionnality is great. I cannot build/package, so this answer is just here to say I am interested. Thanks vale for your feedback Kimaidou 2009/2/1 vale va...@gmx.de Hi i tried this evening to get opera mini working with debian, i somehow managed to get it started, but it gets X to hang after some seconds :( If someone is interested how i got it to work: 1) install openjdk 2) get microemu (http://microemu.org/ , Java implementation of Java ME in Java SE) 3) get opera mini: http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/generic/generic_advanced_midp_2/ 4) unpack microemu, 5) start microemu java -jar microemulator.jar 6) go to Options Select device, click Add..., navigate to microemulator\devices and select microemu-device-resizable.jar 7) select the Resizable device profile you just added and click Set as default 8) click the Resize button in lower right to set the size you want (400x400 seems ok for first tests) 9) go to File Open JAD and choose the Opera Mini jad you previously downloaded 10) Opera Mini now appears in the list of apps you can start by double clicking it 11) it should start installing after some seconds then i get to the bookmarks i can select one and the webpage appears, but after some seconds the system freezes. only killall -9 X helps ;) If someone has an idea to improve performance or knows another java ME implementation, please report :) greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--opera-mini-..---tp2255329p2255329.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
Hi Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? thanks in advance 2009/2/3 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great app, thanks!! :D Valery Febvre ha scritto: Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to enable/disable this new feature. * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar. A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default). This feature is disabled if delay is 0. * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer. * Added a slideshow functionnality. A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to adjust the interval (default 4 sec.). * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ... * Added a new theme 'Black White'. A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the theme to used. As usual you can get it at: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239 BEWARE: If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk Links: Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon Have fun, Valéry - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmITysACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZQEgCfdBCUsp8UmLSwS73XiCBsIe5n 19QAoIO6yxc/vdTTcA4uQnGQ1WslOZAU =u9cx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi ! thanks a lot for this tool, it works great !! One idea of improvement : Play mid file with the corresponding note when clicking on one of the 6 button. This way, we can approach the note faster, and then use the vu meter to adjust it. Kimaidou 2009/2/3 Natanael natana...@gmx.de Natanael wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for guitartune: * libfftw3-3 * on SHR, where can I find libfftw3-3? I've searched in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ but couldn't find it. Which distribution do you use? Ok, thankyou I've found my answer on http://www.opkg.org/package_115.html opkg install libglade-2.0 gtk+ http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk http://www.opkg.org/packages/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu eMail: natanaela _at_ gmx.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
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Re: Qwo update
Hi all Is there a new package for Debian too ? I am using the 0.3 on my hackable, and I would like to test the last one. NB : for those who wants to install it on debian/hackable, do : cd ~ wget http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1%7Epre3_armel.deb apt-get install libconfig6 dpkg -i qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb cd /usr/bin mv xkbd xkbd.moved ln -s qwo xkbd 2009/2/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com update it on opkg.org? On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Charles Clément carat...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, A new release of qwo, version 0.4 is out. Here's the highlight of this release: -The window can now be resized, but has to remain a square. -There is a paste (P). Also the gesture to print help image is now middle left region to bottom left one, which is easier to do. The project has moved to Savannah, you can reach the homepage at http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ to get the details. Binaries and the sources can be obtained on the download page: http://savannah.nongnu.org/files/?group=qwo Here is the ChangeLog entry: 2009-02-07 Charles Clément carat...@gmail.com * 0.4 release * The window size can be changed * The window can be resized dynamically * Added Paste * Man page generation using help2man (Thanks Yaroslav Halchenko) * Added Version and help messages * Generates the .desktop and qwo_control files using autoconf * Support to display the window at a specific position (Thanks Christian M. Amsüss) * Added Alt key, Page up, down, home and end plus others * Invert position for characters f and g * The gesture to print help image is now middle left region to bottom left one * Fix bug number 5 * Fix input focus in metacity/matchbox (Thanks Christian M. Amsüss and Erik Andresen) -- Charles Clément. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
Thanks for your answer . I will try it ! 2009/2/11 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:48:42AM +0100, kimaidou wrote: Hi all I think this idea is great. I am using SHR from the start, and now I installed Hackable 1 on my SDcard (I need a PIM solution). So I miss the goodies in www.opkg.org. I've installed both usbmode and linball[1] on Debian from the .ipk package. You need to pass --force-architecture and perhaps --force-depends to dpkg. It will probably work fine for many packages. [1] Hangs on exit without -n to turn off sound (which doesn't work anyway). -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Openmoko headset
I tried it too, and there was a HUGE buuz on the other side (I left a message in my voice box). How can we check that the micro of the headset is used instead of the freerunner one ? Here are the values of the gsmheadset.state this way : - Control 48: microphone of the fr --0 - Control 4 : freerunner speaker --0 - Control 49: headset micro -- 3 - Control 3 : headset speaker -- 90 2009/2/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com Dear List, how can I avoid to have the Openmoko headset AND the speaker working at the same time? Where I plug-in the headset, people around me can listen to the conversation from the speaker! Also, how can I increase the volume in the headset cause the default one is very low! You can hardly understand the person you are calling. Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Openmoko headset
thank you very much for this explanation. Il will try it and report here 2009/2/13 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk On Friday 13 February 2009, Tony Berth wrote: Dear List, how can I avoid to have the Openmoko headset AND the speaker working at the same time? Where I plug-in the headset, people around me can listen to the conversation from the speaker! Also, how can I increase the volume in the headset cause the default one is very low! You can hardly understand the person you are calling. Currently this doesn't seem to be automatic in any of the distros. The generic answer is to activate gsmheadset.state, and adjust the volume settings in it to match your preference. The correct way to do this will vary depending on which distro you are using. The most generic is to use alsactl: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmheadset.state restore FSO has a dbus interface for this, and a rules engine that may be able to handle the switching if the phone app doesn't. The dbus call can be made from the command line: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PushScenario gsmheadset Another option may be pymixer - see link at end of [1] In either case you will need to run this after the start of the call as the phone app is likely to load gsmhandset.state when you pick up the call. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Help for using dates
Hi all I just installed hackable1 on my 8go sdcard. I am looking for a lightweight calendar application compatible with evolution. I found dates, which you can install with apt-get install dates on your freerunner and on your desktop (on ubuntu, just add sudo ). I tried it on my desktop : it is a great application : light, and since it use the evolution data format, When I add an event on my calendar from dates, the gnome calendar applet shows it just by clicking on the desktop date/hour (on the bottom right). And of course, when I open evolution, the event is there too. So, I installed it on my freerunner (last hackable1) with apt-get install dates. I need your help to solve these problems: 1/ Sometimes I can't get it to run from the laucn icon : i need to open xterm and send the dates command 2/ when it runs, I cannot do anything : the New, Edit and Delete links on the bottom left are grey and not clickable. * So, I try to import an existing ical calendar by using the menu Calendar -- Import BUT this bring a small error window with the message No writable calendars to import into. * So I try the menu Calendar -- Properties, which brings a windows titled Calendars , empty but with 3 buttons New, Edit and Close. I click on New, which brings another window titled New calendar, from which I can Choose if the new calendar is On This Computer or On the web, write the name of the new calendar, and pick a color. I try to create the new openmoko calendar and confirm with Ok. And nothing changed ! No new calendar created, even if I close and re-open dates. This is where I am now. So I really need your help to make it work. Could you tell me : * where does dates store the configuration files (eg where the calendar name and file adress is written) * have you managed to get it worked, and how ? Thanks in advance for your answer. PS: I already tried osmo and other calendar apps, and I really want to use dates. It runs on my ubuntu, why not on my debian freerunner ? Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi community I am running the Hackable1 , and try to find a lightweight and simple way to record and play voice notes. I discovered ecasound via a google search. ( http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d2caa54f7448993a/14d58b5ea003409a?lnk=raot). I am trying to use it from command-line to record some sound (me talking :D ) with the following line : *ecasound -i /dev/dsp -o mynotes.wav -c* Pressing on t will start recording. When finished, press on s to stop then q to quit. I tried to open the mynotes.wav file with *audacity*, but I cannot see any waves, though my file size is 4Mo/ So my conclusion is ecasound worked well, but I should have change the scenario (one of the *.state file ) before recording ? So I need your help to test ecasound and report any solution. If I can get it to work, I will try to create a simple gui to run it Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Sorry I forgot the link to ecasound example page : http://eca.cx/ecasound/Documentation/examples.html#rtrecording 2009/2/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi community I am running the Hackable1 , and try to find a lightweight and simple way to record and play voice notes. I discovered ecasound via a google search. ( http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d2caa54f7448993a/14d58b5ea003409a?lnk=raot). I am trying to use it from command-line to record some sound (me talking :D ) with the following line : *ecasound -i /dev/dsp -o mynotes.wav -c* Pressing on t will start recording. When finished, press on s to stop then q to quit. I tried to open the mynotes.wav file with *audacity*, but I cannot see any waves, though my file size is 4Mo/ So my conclusion is ecasound worked well, but I should have change the scenario (one of the *.state file ) before recording ? So I need your help to test ecasound and report any solution. If I can get it to work, I will try to create a simple gui to run it Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi both Thanks for you replies. I dumly forgot to search for voice recording among the wiki :( Before I try it, could you please tell if the following order and commands are ok (don't want to break my kernel** cd /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ wget http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav alsactl -f voice-recording.state restore HERE I TALK OR SING A SONG : La la laa laa l, then killall -TERM arecord alsactl -f gsmhandset.state restore Is this correct ? Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Come back here to give some feedback :
1/ to restore one state file, you must specify the complete adress e.g.
alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore
2/ I tried once to record via arecord and it worked (no sound because I have
not done the 1/ ). Then I killed it by CTRL+Z
But now I cannot reuse it, the command
arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav
give the following error :
arecord: main:564: audio open error: Device or resource busy
How can I de-busy the audio device ?
Thanks in advance
Kimaidou
2009/2/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com
Hi both
Thanks for you replies. I dumly forgot to search for voice recording
among the wiki :(
Before I try it, could you please tell if the following order and commands
are ok (don't want to break my kernel**
cd /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/
wget
http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.statehttp://wildsau.enemy.org/%7Emoko/voice-recording.state
arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav
alsactl -f voice-recording.state restore
HERE I TALK OR SING A SONG : La la laa laa l, then
killall -TERM arecord
alsactl -f gsmhandset.state restore
Is this correct ?
Kimaidou
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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi All. My feedback : the process is working. Now I would like to create a small bash + zenity tool. I need anyone's help to make it work. For now, I have : #!/bin/bash zenity --question --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to START recording; gostart=$? if [ $gostart = 1 ] then echo Operation canceled exit else echo Recording... fi zenity --info --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to STOP recording; gostop=$? arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmstereoout.state restore killall -TERM arecord zenity --info --title=Voice note --text=Your voice-note has been recorded; goread=$? This is not working because I don't know how to load the arecord thing AND show a windows which asks the user to stop recording. Does anyone have any clue ? thanks in advance kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
I am answering myself here : I found the solution :you have to add a at the end of the arecord line So the file content is now : #!/bin/bash zenity --question --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to START recording; gostart=$? if [ $gostart = 1 ] then echo Operation canceled exit else echo Recording... fi arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore zenity --info --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to STOP recording; gostop=$? killall -TERM arecord alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore zenity --info --title=Voice note --text=Your voice-note has been recorded; goread=$? #END OF FILE CONCLUSION It works well !! For those who want to try, just create a executable text file called voicenote.sh for example in your personnal folder and add the lines above. To make it executable, please do : chmod +x ~/voicenote.sh Thanks all for your help ! Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes
Hi all I spend the day creating a small zenity + bash application wich records the sound from the built-in freerunner microphone into a wav file. For OM, SHR : The ipk file is attached to this email You will need zenity to make it work http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk For DEBIAN + Hackable users : I attached a tar file which contains only the /usr/ folders and files. To install it, first install zenity then untar the file in your root filesystem apt-get install zenity cd / tar -xvf voicenote_debian.tar (you need to copy the tar file to / or change the previous command line and specify the folder where you put it) PS : * for now, the software has no config file, and the voice notes are recorded to the ~/ folder (file name rec + date and time). I will add some configuration after * next step is play the recorder files with aplay Thanks in advance voicenote_0.1_arm.ipk Description: Binary data voicenote_debian.tar Description: Unix tar archive ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes
I forgot to tell : for the SHR / OM users, if the ipk file does not work, can you please try the tar file for debian ? (you just need to untar it to your / ) thanks 2009/2/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all I spend the day creating a small zenity + bash application wich records the sound from the built-in freerunner microphone into a wav file. For OM, SHR : The ipk file is attached to this email You will need zenity to make it work http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk For DEBIAN + Hackable users : I attached a tar file which contains only the /usr/ folders and files. To install it, first install zenity then untar the file in your root filesystem apt-get install zenity cd / tar -xvf voicenote_debian.tar (you need to copy the tar file to / or change the previous command line and specify the folder where you put it) PS : * for now, the software has no config file, and the voice notes are recorded to the ~/ folder (file name rec + date and time). I will add some configuration after * next step is play the recorder files with aplay Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
good idea. Btw, I have made an ipk and a debian tar file to install my voicenote software. I have other idea to implement but I will try to add these info if possible. kimaidou 2009/2/19 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav Btw, it's useful to add GSM cell information and GPS location information to the filename when it is available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes
HI yorick Have you tried to install zenity and/ or voicenote with the -force-depends parameters ? In the last unstable shr's, I think there is a pbm installing every app wich uses gtk+ Normally, a opkg install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk -force-depends should work 2009/2/19 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com on shr unstable from 09-02: r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios $ opkg install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_ 2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Multiple packages (zenity and zenity) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (zenity and zenity) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity: * libgnomecanvas-2-0 * libgnomecanvas-2-0 (= 2.20.0) * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * and when untarring it withouth installing zenity: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/voicenote.sh /usr/bin/voicenote.sh: line 2: zenity: command not found Recording... /usr/bin/voicenote.sh: line 13: zenity: command not found /usr/bin/voicenote.sh: line 16: 5500 Terminated arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav /usr/bin/voicenote.sh: line 17: zenity: command not found On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:04 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to tell : for the SHR / OM users, if the ipk file does not work, can you please try the tar file for debian ? (you just need to untar it to your / ) thanks 2009/2/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all I spend the day creating a small zenity + bash application wich records the sound from the built-in freerunner microphone into a wav file. For OM, SHR : The ipk file is attached to this email You will need zenity to make it work http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk For DEBIAN + Hackable users : I attached a tar file which contains only the /usr/ folders and files. To install it, first install zenity then untar the file in your root filesystem apt-get install zenity cd / tar -xvf voicenote_debian.tar (you need to copy the tar file to / or change the previous command line and specify the folder where you put it) PS : * for now, the software has no config file, and the voice notes are recorded to the ~/ folder (file name rec + date and time). I will add some configuration after * next step is play the recorder files with aplay Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes
Hi Timo Thansk for your answer. * it is my 1st package, and my first email was about asking some help. So thank for your reply * to build the ipk file I used http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto So for me this was a blind building. I don't know what the builder put in the ipkg. Since I run debian, I was unable to test it under om or SHR. * For the untar thing under debian : I would like people to test the thing. I did not knwow this way was the wrong way. I will try to build a debian package when I have time. But please do it if you are efficient in that. * I will try to follow your how to if you have no time to do it. Anyway, I apologize for the hurry, and I will be cautionous next time. By the way, have you tried it ? Kimaidou 2009/2/19 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: cd / tar -xvf voicenote_debian.tar Please don't do this. Only package manager may put files to /usr. Use /usr/local or $HOME or create a proper package: 1) create an initial package template: lindi1:~/tmp$ mkdir voicenote-0.01 lindi1:~/tmp$ cd voicenote-0.01/ lindi1:~/tmp/voicenote-0.01$ tar xf ../voicenote_debian.tar lindi1:~/tmp/voicenote-0.01$ dh_make -s --createorig Maintainer name : Timo Lindfors Email-Address : li...@kurp.hut.fi Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:48:15 +0200 Package Name: voicenote Version : 0.01 License : blank Using dpatch: no Type of Package : Single Hit enter to confirm: Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning. Done. Please edit the files in the debian/ subdirectory now. You should also check that the voicenote Makefiles install into $DESTDIR and not in / . 2) edit debian/rules: you need to comment out all lines that say $(MAKE) since you are not providing a makefile. After that add cp -a ./usr $(CURDIR)/debian/voicenote to the end of the install: target in debian/rules. 3) edit debian/control: add zenity and alsa-utils to the Depends: line. 4) remove example templates that we did not need: rm debian/*.ex debian/*.EX 5) build a package: lindi1:~/tmp/voicenote-0.01$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot dpkg-buildpackage: set CFLAGS to default value: -g -O2 dpkg-buildpackage: set CPPFLAGS to default value: dpkg-buildpackage: set LDFLAGS to default value: dpkg-buildpackage: set FFLAGS to default value: -g -O2 dpkg-buildpackage: set CXXFLAGS to default value: -g -O2 dpkg-buildpackage: source package voicenote dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.01-1 dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Timo Lindfors li...@kurp.hut.fi dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64 ... dpkg-deb: building package `voicenote' in `../voicenote_0.01-1_amd64.deb'. signfile voicenote_0.01-1.dsc 6) install the package to see that everything works: lindi1:~/tmp/voicenote-0.01$ sudo dpkg -i ../voicenote*.deb (Reading database ... 115315 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace voicenote 0.01-1 (using ../voicenote_0.01-1_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement voicenote ... Setting up voicenote (0.01-1) ... lindi1:~/tmp/voicenote-0.01$ dpkg -L voicenote /. /usr /usr/bin /usr/bin/voicenote.sh /usr/share /usr/share/pixmaps /usr/share/pixmaps/voicenote.png /usr/share/applications /usr/share/applications/voicenote.desktop /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/voicenote /usr/share/doc/voicenote/copyright /usr/share/doc/voicenote/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/voicenote/README.Debian /usr/sbin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Hi, you said So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to. Could you please make a wiki page and put + explain your script for doing that ? I think we can go very fast if anyone can use them (thinking about how openstreetmap extends..) Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Hi all I would like to knwo if there was a gps tool which could save gps tracks from command line with very few memory / cpu use ? For OM, SHR or debian based distribution ? It could be great to activate a GPS only mode wich turn off GSM, Wifi, etc. and all the librairy running which are useless for only gps tracking. The best would be a specific distribution ? kimaidou 2009/2/20 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com last time i tested it (been some time) i was able to get around 8hours of gps tracking using tangogps, screen almost constantly dimmed On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Garabana Barro ha scritto: You should try FSO 5 or unstable SHR. With latest unstable SHR image, after 40 hours mostly suspended I had about 50% battery. battery life is improving a lot! The GPS tracking is not a problem, since I'm going to buy a Garmin GPSMap 60Csx (battery life around 20h of tracking with 2 AA batteries) because I need also a good routing device. The real problem is that for my complicated day 15h life with a normal use of the phone is too few. My last mail was finalized to find a pretty way to improve the life of my FR. This is the way. I think that SHR unstable + the Rechargeable USB Emergency Power Backup Pack suggested by Timo Juhani Lindfors You can buy extra batteries. The USB battery http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3060 is only $14.43. I don't think this lets you use it for 3 days but it will at least make it 12 instead of 6 hours. should work for me. However, also a good wifi roaming device could be interesting... is there a way to get the SHR unstable connect to open wifi networks around the streets? Thanks to all for the hints :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmenSIACgkQRi2TsGSC4FYuEwCfX+jYXqkJZGWaM3cDEWU86Ftc SsYAoJ49ueSBy34mlbhSl5UWTKKkDVjF =HL/x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Very light in fact :D Thanks ! 2009/2/20 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: I would like to knwo if there was a gps tool which could save gps tracks from command line with very few memory / cpu use ? For OM, SHR or debian based distribution ? echo rw | netcat localhost gpsd gps.log is what I use. Very memory and cpu efficient. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
This is a great idea. I personnaly try to add data into OSM when I have time. I will add this in high priority in my to-do list. By the way, I create a package called voicenote, and: a wiki page : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote a opkg page : http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html As you can read in the wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote#Futur_improvement_.2F_To_do_list , there are a lot of things to do, and anyone wich wants to help can !! thanks for you comment 2009/2/20 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav Btw, it's useful to add GSM cell information and GPS location information to the filename when it is available. I think that implementing this the Neo FreeRunner will be the first phone for mappers (I'm referring to OpenStreetMap). Georeferred voice notes could be a coolest feature in a completely open phone to produce completely open maps. Actually, the audio mapping[1] is supported by the main OSM editor, JOSM[2], and is the smartest way to collect streets names for bikers. An important note: it is not necessary for a mapper to have the recordings georeferred with latitude and longitude, the audio metadata could contain simply the time catched by GPS, and in this way the file will be georeferred on a GPX. In both the cases, again, after TangoGPS (with OSM support) this could be the big step to create a phone for mappers. Good work :) [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Audio_mapping [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmeu9oACgkQRi2TsGSC4Fb6EQCdE7O9ODAoquLd+BtJ4NR4rf1y lhsAnRsR5GYRlJjp2bFqwsP5YftEdeqA =lgbj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Voicenote - new software
Hi all As the project I had to create a small software to record audio from the microphone has given birth to a package, I officially tell the list about it. You can find the wiki page here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote And the opkg page here http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html As you can see in the todo list, the project is very young : * I need feedbacks * there are many things to implement But it is a 0.1 version, so let it grow. Thanks for those who helped and commented, and please add your comment / wish list / idea / code in the discussion page of the wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Voicenoteaction=edit Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
Pardon, should be added that alsa-utils-aplay package is needed to get the program working properly; add this also on opkg.org: opkg install alsa-utils-aplay NOW IT WORKS!! Great program :D Greetings Thanks for your feedback. Since I ran it on debian, I did not knwo this package was not installed. I will add this info on the wiki page and the opkg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
I'd like to have voice detection so that it records only when I talk. I'm sure there is some existing software that does this so writing new is not necessary. It will be harder to do than this because : * even if the soft exists, I have no knowledge to use it (my coding skill are very thin, I don't know how to make librairies, signals and all this type of things communicate * the environment of the freerunner is ofter noisy * the process must stay awake in wait mode, so it uses CPU. * the freerunner can receive a phone call So, my simple voicenote soft will really focus on taking one note at a time, with the simplest code possible. Could you please tell me in wich context you will need voice detection ? Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
Hi Can you please tell me on which distribution you have installed it, and how ? There are actually a desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ and a icon in the /usr/share/pixmaps. So on the OM and SHR distros, an icon should appear. Please provide more details please :S Has anyone else got the same problem ? Thanks 2009/2/20 Stefan Schmidt ste...@openmoko.org Hello. On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:30, kimaidou wrote: As you can see in the todo list, the project is very young : * I need feedbacks If you add and desktop file and an icon it should be usable without a terminal. Just start it with a press in the launcher and you can make voicenotes in a fast and easy manner. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
One suggestion: why do not try to make a more user-friendly interface which is big as the whole screen space, with big buttons (useful for bikers) and a traffic light[1] showing: - - red -- message of the 1st window - - orange -- message of the 2nd window - - green -- recorded and saved ... or something like that ;) In PyGtk it's very simple and immediate to realize that, but before summer I've no time :( Greetings :D [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ampel.svg - -- Francesco de Virgilio Francesco, this is a great idea, which I called replace zenity by a real frontend as EFL ? in my to-do list. I will think about it and try it. I am not sure yet if I must use python + pygtk or python + EFL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
I am just crying so noisily right now :( Ok, I have been beaten :D . But: * I am happy someone has the same need * I was trying to find doc on pygtk, so I will stop :D * I will try your application * I am sure it is what I intended to do at first. If not I will help you with ideas and code * I can help you to package it conclusion : I don't know yet if I must kill my opkg page and wiki page about Voicenote, or if I should let the user choose ? Anyway I wil be happy to work with you as a team. Kimaidou 2009/2/20 Matthias Felsche matthiasfels...@web.de Oh, you guys are talking about something concerning me in a special way!!! I can't wait any longer! The last few days i was working on an dictation- oder voice-recording-application as well. It is not ready yet, but basically functionable. I began with a python-gtk-gui and by now it is only recording and playing wavs. I didn't want to use arecord and aplay, but python-tools. I was just about implementing real-time-ogg-conversion. I've attached my work up to now, maybe it's helpful. It's in need of a little improvement but works. just untar the content into / , get all the dependency-stuff (just read /usr/local/dictator/readme), change the saving-folder to the folder you like, then start by typing: python /usr/local/dictator/diktator.py enjoy! :) Well, let's work together if you like. Or let this be a help for you. For example up to now i don't know how to package things as ipk! Matthias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Gesendet: 20.02.09 16:37:25 An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: Voicenote - new software One suggestion: why do not try to make a more user-friendly interface which is big as the whole screen space, with big buttons (useful for bikers) and a traffic light[1] showing: - - red -- message of the 1st window - - orange -- message of the 2nd window - - green -- recorded and saved ... or something like that ;) In PyGtk it's very simple and immediate to realize that, but before summer I've no time :( Greetings :D [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ampel.svg - -- Francesco de Virgilio Francesco, this is a great idea, which I called replace zenity by a real frontend as EFL ? in my to-do list. I will think about it and try it. I am not sure yet if I must use python + pygtk or python + EFL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/ mailman/listinfo/community ___ Jetzt 1 Monat kostenlos! WEB.DE FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 EURO/mtl.!* http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Thanks a lot for your comments . It is my first bash script, so I have a lot to learn. I will integrate thoses changes ! 2009/2/21 Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.orgcharles-henri.gros%2bopenm...@m4x.org kimaidou wrote: I am answering myself here : I found the solution :you have to add a at the end of the arecord line So the file content is now : #!/bin/bash zenity --question --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to START recording; gostart=$? if [ $gostart = 1 ] then echo Operation canceled exit else echo Recording... fi arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore This line should not end with '' and should probably come before the arecord line zenity --info --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to STOP recording; gostop=$? killall -TERM arecord You should use kill %1 instead, this will only kill the instance you just started (and TERM is the default). For that, you need to enable job control (set -m) alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore zenity --info --title=Voice note --text=Your voice-note has been recorded; goread=$? #END OF FILE Result: #!/bin/bash # Exit on error # Enable job control set -em zenity --question --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to START recording; gostart=$? if [ $gostart = 1 ] then echo Operation canceled exit 1 else echo Recording... fi alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav zenity --info --title=Voice-note --text=Click Validate to STOP recording # Kill arecord kill %1 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore zenity --info --title=Voice note --text=Your voice-note has been recorded #END OF FILE -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi ! I totally agree with you, i will implement this for the 0.2 version For the mono thing, I would like it but I don't know yet how to do it. This is why when you open a wav recorded file with audacity, you can see the 2 left and right side, but only the right has data... This is not good. So if someone knwos the parameter to put in arecord to record only one mono sound, this would help ! 2009/2/21 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:07:40PM +0100, kimaidou wrote: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav I think 44100 Hz is overkill for something like this. 8 kHz ought to be enough and would save a lot of disk space. I would have also suggested a mono recording, but I'm not sure that is supported. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Great idea ! Thanks for both of you, I will -soon- put this in the 0.2 version. One question : on which package depends speexenc and speexdec ? kimaidou 2009/2/21 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi matthias matthiasfels...@web.de writes: arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav How about using speex compression? I recorded a few words with arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 a.wav and ended up with a 1089580-byte file. speexenc a.wav a.speex reduced the size to only 78214 bytes and speexdec a.speex played it back with better quality than the 8000 Hz recording. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi guys I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so that it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as : arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav Then we play it with aplay, and this way : * no need for speex, so the app is more portable * less job to do, so the app consumes less battery What do you think ? 2009/2/22 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.orgcharles-henri.gros%2bopenm...@m4x.org writes: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t raw | speexenc --stereo --rate 44100 --16bit --le - a.speex Thanks. Speex would prefer 8, 16 or 32 Hz. Were you able to it to work with 32 Hz? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hum, is it a question, or a statement ? I personally don't know. If it is worse, is it much worse ? I recall this is to record voice, not a concerto. So a phone quality is enough (from my point of view). 2009/2/22 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: Then we play it with aplay, and this way : * no need for speex, so the app is more portable * less job to do, so the app consumes less battery What do you think ? But the quality is worse? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
Hi, I am developping voicenote (1), and I would like to implement a new function : localize each audio note with the gps latitude, longitude and time. Since I would like the soft to be plateform independant, I ask you to tell me how can I : * start gps if it is not * know when I got a fix * put the latitude, longitude and time into variables (and why not the precision too : hdop) * shutdown gps if it was not up when the script loads (if you think it should do so) Thanks for any help. NB: I am just begining scripting; I know nothing about dbus (only copy paste some working lines), etc. Please be patient :D (1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] fbvnc - need help
Hi list, I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the freerunner which can scale the server images it get. Now, I can see only a quarter of my laptop screen. I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a binary file for arm : http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/ I downloaded the http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gz and untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please? Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] fbvnc - need help
thanks for the answser. I am not particularly looking for some client side scaling, just for scaling. I if x11vnc can, it is ok for me ! I will look at the man, and post back here. thanks for your answer ! 2009/2/22 Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org fbvnc is for the framebuffer, not to be run inside of X11 I'm afraid. x11vnc does have a server-side scaling option you could look into. Otherwise I don't know of any clients that do client-side scaling like you want. --Brock On 2009.02.22.14.12, kimaidou wrote: | Hi list, | | I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my | freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a | vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the | freerunner which can scale the server images it get. Now, I can see only a | quarter of my laptop screen. | | I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc | http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html | I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a binary | file for arm : | http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/ | | I downloaded the http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gzand | untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please? | | Thanks in advance | | Kimaidou | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
Thanks very much to all for your kind and quick answers. I will try do use them when I have time kimaidou 2009/2/23 Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org Hi Kimaidou, I put some script on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Kapiteined and start and stop gps in those scripts. And also clean the gps logs from data without a valid lat/long (thus without having a fix). Please feel free to browse trough the scripts and use whatever you like about it. Kind regards, Ed On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 14:00 +0100, kimaidou wrote: Hi, I am developping voicenote (1), and I would like to implement a new function : localize each audio note with the gps latitude, longitude and time. Since I would like the soft to be plateform independant, I ask you to tell me how can I : * start gps if it is not * know when I got a fix * put the latitude, longitude and time into variables (and why not the precision too : hdop) * shutdown gps if it was not up when the script loads (if you think it should do so) Thanks for any help. NB: I am just begining scripting; I know nothing about dbus (only copy paste some working lines), etc. Please be patient :D (1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - new software
Hi After install the last OM2008.12 distribution and trying to install voicenote, I got the same error.. I don't know how to correct this dependencies problems.. Anyone with more knowledge could help ? ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity: * libglade-2.0-0 * libgnomecanvas-2-0 * libglade-2.0-0 (= 2.6.2) * libgnomecanvas-2-0 (= 2.20.0) * libart-lgpl-2-2 (= 2.3.19) * * Cannot find package alsa-utils-aplay Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com I don't know what you did on tslib patch, but now it is running very very well. I can now do a right click only with my finger too. It is perfect. We can proceed foo canonization? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Thanks for your help I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted. Any application for testing the right-click ? thanks 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 with this Option Device/dev/input/event1 In the same section add this option: Option EmulateRightButton1 And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Ok. thanks for your great help. For now, I choose the simplicity and * use the state files provided with the fr * use the -D plughw:0,0 option to record only a mono file and use -r 8000 to record at 8khZ So my line becomes: arecord -D plughw:0,0 -r 8000 $userfolder/$myname This saves a lot of space : 2MO -- 100 kO for a 10 seconds record. I am about to release version 2 :D 2009/2/22 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:30:52PM +0100, kimaidou wrote: Hi guys I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so that it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as : arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav $ arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono arecord: set_params:923: Channels count non available $ arecord -D hw -f S8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available $ arecord -D hw -f U8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Voicenote - New version = 0.2
Hi all, I have made some modifications to voicenote : 2009-02-24 - v0.2 2nd version: - GPL license added - the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg - the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of CPU and bytes) - addition of comments in the script - the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2) (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2
I forgot to tell : Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2. You can do it by: opkg remove voicenote --autoremove 2009/2/24 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all, I have made some modifications to voicenote : 2009-02-24 - v0.2 2nd version: - GPL license added - the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg - the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of CPU and bytes) - addition of comments in the script - the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2) (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2
2009/2/24 Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de kimaidou schrieb: I forgot to tell : Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2. You can do it by: opkg remove voicenote --autoremove for me updating removes the old files. but i had to change #/bin/bash to #/bin/sh because i had no bash installed. perhaps you could change it, /bin/sh works, too Sebastian Thanks for your reply. I don't really know why I put bash and not sh. I will change it now and re-upload it fast. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
Hi all I come back after some tests. I would like to stick on bash script for several reasons (don't want to load another instance of python just to record some sound, etc.). So among your answer, I tried to use one of this line echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2 But I got nothing in return. Could you please be more specific : * do I need to start gpsd first * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by fso-gpsd or anything else ? * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ? Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
Hi list, I post here, again, to announce the release of the third version of Voicenote. Now * you can play the wav files you have recorded with voicenote (or other wav files) * you go back the the 1st choice dialog (record or play?) after each action. To quit the script, click on the Cancel button. The page to read for more detail : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Monologue - very simple dictation assistant
Hi all I would like to react :D I created voicenote because there WAS no application running on the moko to record wav file. Since I did not want to make it weight, and because it was at the beginning only for recording wav files, I did not choose python + a gui. + I would like to learn a bit of bash scripting :D This was and is still Ok if you just want to have a very fast do your job application = voicenote Just after the release, and today, 2 identical projects poped up. Identical ? Not sure : one wants to record only when speaking (for being able to record without the need to touch the screen, I think for OSM mapping), the second wants a nice GUI (or the other way ) The great openmoko community reacts very fast, and gave me ideas to implement : * add GPS location + time for easy OSM editing * be able to play the files / delete them, etc. * modulate the level to reach good audio quality * record only when speaking * etc... My thought : * I lve the dynamism of the community * I really think bash script is limited if we want to easily implement gps access / volume control / record when speaking /etc. * I cannot spend much time on it So I think I will now let voicenote in version 0.3 (except for bugs corrections and small improvements) and let people with time and knowledge to implement a great app with a nice gui and better function. I think Timo and Mathias should work together. I tested mathias's soft, and the ui is great. Of course I will help them with idea, trac tickets and more ! Kimaidou PS : * One question to Timo : have you tested your soft in noisy environment ? Is it able to differenciate a voice from another sound ? * I agree with what has been said : each function (voice recognition or gps data) must be options the user can desactivate. 2009/2/25 Nelson Castillo nelson...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Hi, since I could not find any existing software to do what I need I wrote my own: http://iki.fi/lindi/darcs/monologue/ records audio only when you talk. It's very early version so don't expect much. I hope to be able to use it dictate notes and use it with at least openstreetmap. Here you are: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Monologue Listed in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Recording_audio I cannot wait to finish something I'm doing so that I can start playing with the audio recording programs in my phone :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
Thanks for your feedback. Thanks to you I understand why the icon was doubled. I will modifiy the desktop file for the next release. I will add the opkg -force-depends install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgnomecanvas-2-0_2.20.0-r0_armv4t.ipk http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgailutil18_1.20.0-r0_armv4t.ipk on the wiki page too. @jorge : great news ! I have read to python code, and I don't see where you specify the rate and quality of the recorded wav file ? Other question : have you followed the discussion to merge the 2 other audio recording applications Monologue and Dictator ? Kimaidou 2009/2/27 Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com Nice, useful app. On SHR I needed to do the following besides the instructions on the wiki: opkg -force-depends install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgnomecanvas-2-0_2.20.0-r0_armv4t.ipk http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgailutil18_1.20.0-r0_armv4t.ipk Also the Icon turned up twice, I had to remove the Office category. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenCellId : How to contribute simply with my moko ?
Hi all, I read some emails on the list about cellhunter, opencellid and other projects. Since it is hard to get a conclusion by reading them, I would like to know how I can contribute easily to OpenCellid with my freerunner. I want to do it well (not only giving the cell id and gps location, but have enough metadata whichs describe the precision, the phone model (gta02rev6), etc. Is Cellhunter the best way to do it ? --If so, can I install it on my Hackable:1 (debian based) ? --If not, is there any finger friendly soft ? Since I saw there is currently no cell in France, I can talk to the french openmoko community and we can work on it ! Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
