[computer-go] 9x9 CGOS
I'm trying to get back on 9x9 cgos and I'm having some trouble. I'm using the windows executables from Don's web page. cgosview.exe shows me nothing when I run it. Is there a command line option I need to use to set a certain port? And what are the command line options for cgos3.exe? I tried %MYNAME% %MYPWD% %MYPROG% %SENTINEL%, but that just hung. That could be because I haven't opened the right port. What port should I open? I opened ports 6819 and 6867. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 9x9 CGOS
cgosview can take a while to load even on fast connections. There's a slight chance you're not being patient enough. PS: For ports, I usually find a packet sniffer helpful for such things (ethereal/wireshark is available for free). I assume someone can give a far better answer. On 10/26/07, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get back on 9x9 cgos and I'm having some trouble. I'm using the windows executables from Don's web page. cgosview.exe shows me nothing when I run it. Is there a command line option I need to use to set a certain port? And what are the command line options for cgos3.exe? I tried %MYNAME% %MYPWD% %MYPROG% %SENTINEL%, but that just hung. That could be because I haven't opened the right port. What port should I open? I opened ports 6819 and 6867. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Optimizing UCT
I know that I've missed at least two enhancements: 1. UCB1-Tuned (adding an upper confidence bound on the variance used in calculating upper confidence bounds) 2. First play urgency - Giving an artificial upper confidence bounds to untried moves (I've seen references that 110% win rate is the right setting) On 10/19/07, Jason House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've only recently implemented my first attempt at UCT and I'm curious what tricks exist for tweaking performance. My rule for promoting a leaf to an interior node is that I must first have 100 sims of that node, but changing that value to 10 seems to give very significant performance improvements. (20x-30x sims for best move). What experiences do others have with this? Other candidate improvement I've heard of: 1. Using AMAF/RAVE for initial estimates of winning percentages. This seems like it'd give a good speed enhancement that would likely offset estimation errors in the AMAF estimates 2. Enhancing quality of random games with 3x3 patterns (something I consider out of scope for what I'm currently working on but likely way too significant of an enhancement to not mention) 3. 1ply pruning heuristics (I believe this is what's done by crazy stone. I think crazy stone does soft pruning). 4. Heuristics to avoid simulation of all leaves when promoting a leaf node to an interior node. (I've seen a Mogo paper on this) 5. Dynamic adjustment of exploration coefficient (I've seen a Mogo papery on this, but not much discussion on this mailing list) Am I missing any other ones? What experience do people have playing with these? ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Optimizing UCT
Technical Report on MoGo link from http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo.htmeventually leads to http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/12/15/16/PDF/RR-6062.pdf First-play urgency is described in the bottom paragraph on page 16. Results are shown 4 pages later in table 7 (influence of FPU). On 10/26/07, Magnus Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jason House [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. First play urgency - Giving an artificial upper confidence bounds to untried moves (I've seen references that 110% win rate is the right setting) Where did you see that? -- Magnus Persson Berlin, Germany ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Optimizing UCT
Quoting Jason House [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. First play urgency - Giving an artificial upper confidence bounds to untried moves (I've seen references that 110% win rate is the right setting) Where did you see that? -- Magnus Persson Berlin, Germany ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Optimizing UCT
Technical Report on MoGo link from http://www.lri.fr/~gelly/MoGo.htm http://www.lri.fr/%7Egelly/MoGo.htm eventually leads to http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/12/15/16/PDF/RR-6062.pdf http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/12/15/16/PDF/RR-6062.pdf First-play urgency is described in the bottom paragraph on page 16. Results are shown 4 pages later in table 7 (influence of FPU). MoGo is very different now. There's no UCT anymore in MoGo, as UC in UCT means upper-confidence as in UCB1 (but there is still Monte-Carlo planning). The upper confidence term is the sqrt(log(...)/n_i) term; there's nothing like that in MoGo now. But if one keeps UCB, I agree that UCB-Tuned is better than UCB1, and for problems far from computer-go UCT is very efficient with its upper-confidence-term. Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Thanks to GNU-people who successfully connected their bot to the server. The server seemingly works. cgos.lri.fr, port 6919. http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html 19x19, 10 minutes per side (for the moment, to be increased). Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Ruby GTP shell
On 10/24/07, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one knew of one, I had to write it myself. Hopefully someone else can also make use of it. This is my first Ruby script, so please do criticize so I can learn. Thanks. I got zero responses to this. Anyway, the latest version will be available at: http://fantius.com/Gtp.rb http://fantius.com/GtpTest.rb So far, I'm quite happy with Ruby. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Optimizing UCT
On 10/26/07, Olivier Teytaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MoGo is very different now. There's no UCT anymore in MoGo It's almost mean to tell us that MoGo isn't using UCT and omit further detail ;) Would it be safe to assume that it's UCB1-Tuned with the modifications discussed in the ICML paper [1]? [1] http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/387.pdf ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Ruby GTP shell
Chris, Thanks for sharing your code. I've been experimenting with go in Python and Ruby. I'm just learning both languages, but eventually, I hope to have well-designed, easily modified, GTP-talking, random players to share with everyone. I may include other languages after that, but the initial plan is Python and Ruby. Ben. - Original Message From: Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:24:48 PM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Ruby GTP shell On 10/24/07, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one knew of one, I had to write it myself. Hopefully someone else can also make use of it. This is my first Ruby script, so please do criticize so I can learn. Thanks. I got zero responses to this. Anyway, the latest version will be available at: http://fantius.com/Gtp.rb http://fantius.com/GtpTest.rb So far, I'm quite happy with Ruby. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Ruby GTP shell
Ruby is the best language I've ever programmed in. Unfortunately, it's also one of the slowest but that's ok for most things. - Don Chris Fant wrote: On 10/24/07, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one knew of one, I had to write it myself. Hopefully someone else can also make use of it. This is my first Ruby script, so please do criticize so I can learn. Thanks. I got zero responses to this. Anyway, the latest version will be available at: http://fantius.com/Gtp.rb http://fantius.com/GtpTest.rb So far, I'm quite happy with Ruby. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Ruby GTP shell
From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruby is the best language I've ever programmed in. Unfortunately, it's also one of the slowest but that's ok for most things. Using Microsoft's new DLR (Dynamic Language Runtime), dynamic languages, like Ruby, Python, and Javascript, can be compiled into MSIL (not interpreted). That's also pretty cool for another reason - you can mix programming languages within a single application. You can write one part in Ruby, and another part in C#. Plus with Silverlight (Moonlight on Linux) you can download and have the application running securely within your web browser. The Mono team is doing a great job creating an open source version of .NET Framework for other OSs besides Windows. Phil BTW. Please no flames if you think Microsoft is evil.___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Olivier needs to put a .htaccess file in the SGF directory that looks like this: -[ snip ]--- AddType application/x-go-sgf sgf -[ snip ]- - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Combining Online and Offline Knowledge in UCT
After much effort, I think I understand most of the GellyShriver paper[1]. I'm hoping this post will help others and possibly have people correct any errors I've made. First, some basic definitions of notation: * In general, Q is an estimated winning rate, used in three ways: 1. As an estimated winning rate based on random games Q_UCT - Always used in this way Q_RAVE - Section 6, part of UCT_RAVE with 0 or 1 parameter Q_UR - Section 6, part of UCT_RAVE with 2 parameters 2. As a heuristic winning rate Q_PRIOR - Section 7, initialized with 2nd parameter of UCT_RAVE Q_RAVE - Kind of, when UCT_RAVE has 2 parameters Q_RLGO - Sections 7+ Q_MoGo - Always used in this way (don't confuse with pi_MoGo) 3. Used for selecting moves in random games Q_RLGO - unique to section 5 (authors conclude not to do this) * In general, Q+ variants add an extra factor to Q to create an upper confidence bound (standard UCT form of sqrt(log(n_parent)/n_child)) * pi Represents how to select moves, used in two ways: 1. Selecting a move in random games pi_random - Select any random move pi_MoGo - Random move selection based on earlier papers? pi_epsilon- Unique to section 5 (authors conclude not to use this) pi_sigma - Unique to section 5 (authors conclude not to use this) pi_tau- Unique to section 5 (authors conclude not to use this) 2. Selecting a child inside the UCT search tree pi_UCT - Used in UCT algorithm pi_UR - Used in UCT_RAVE algorithm Sections 12 can be skipped. Even more notably, most notation in section 2 is unique. For a more thorough overview of reinforced learning, see Reinforcement Learning: A Strategy [2] (Reading through section 4.2 is more than enough) Section 3 is UCT restated in notation common to reinforced learning. Since I've already added other links, here's a link to the original paper on UCT [3] Section 4. This was the toughest for me to interpret. I found the Sutton reference [4] to both be helpful background and an interesting read (reading through section 2.3 is enough). While I don't think I could recreate exactly what was done, it appears that various patterns around a point on the board are combined (via weighted sum with learned weights) to predict the probability that a candidate move wins. Given the temporal difference nature, this may be based on the winning rate by the previous move of this color. In section 7 it is used as an initial guess at winning rate. Its use in section 5 to select random moves seems to be far inferior and unused by the authors. Section 6. In addition to the standard UCT method of evaluating move winning rates (discussed in section 3), it introduces all moves as first as an alternative. All positions where the player to play played first, are counted as if they were the first move in the game. This gives rapid winning rate (action value) estimates (RAVE), but are inaccurate. The two methods are averaged together. How much of each value is used depends on the number of pure simulations done. Initially, 100% of the RAVE value is used, but then starts dropping as the simulations through a node increases. (At 1000 sims, Beta = 50%, at 3000 sims, Beta = 10%). Other threads discuss AMAF in detail and should be enough to implement this in other MC bots. The conclusion indicates that using UCT_RAVE and using heuristic winning rates (using Q_RLGO as Q_PRIOR) is an effective combination that increased MoGo's winning rate against GnuGo 3.7.10 (level 8) from 24% to 69%. Questions that I have: * In section 4, how is phi initialized? Does it contain the number of matches on the board for each every possible pattern? Or is it a boolean 1 or 0 indicating if the pattern is present? * In section 4, what is considered local? 3x3 neighborhood? For translations of shapes, it seems like a larger local area could be used. [1] http://www.machinelearning.org/proceedings/icml2007/papers/387.pdf [2] http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/9605103 [3] http://zaphod.aml.sztaki.hu/papers/ecml06.pdf [4] http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~sutton/papers/sutton-88.pdf ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Actually, I just tried the windows viewer on my linux system and it worked! I guess wine, the windows emulator has come a long way! Here is what I did: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 I did this from a bash shell and it came up just fine on my edgy eft ubuntu system. If a windows program runs on linux, it has to work on windows! - Don Don Dailey wrote: As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Thanks. It works for me now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:58 PM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
The feature to display a specified game number doesn't work.I had a version at one time that did this but I think I decided against releasing it, I'm not sure why but I remember having a reason. - Don Don Dailey wrote: As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
I found the version - it's version 0.33 and I never published it. You can specify any game ever played on cgos and it will bring it up. You can also bring several up like this: cgosview.exe -server cgos.lri.fr -port 6919 -games 1 2 3 4 5 99 17 If Olivier puts up a front page of some kind I will update the viewing client to work with the new 19x19 site by default and he can post them. - Don Don Dailey wrote: Actually, I just tried the windows viewer on my linux system and it worked! I guess wine, the windows emulator has come a long way! Here is what I did: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 I did this from a bash shell and it came up just fine on my edgy eft ubuntu system. If a windows program runs on linux, it has to work on windows! - Don Don Dailey wrote: As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
I'm not able to connect to the 19x19 server either. I even tried telnet'ing to it. Cgosviewer keeps telling me could not execute, but I dont believe it's a binary problem since if I just run the viewer it comes up (just doesnt connect to anything) Here is the tail of a traceroute. 8 nri-a-g1-0-0-101.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.187.17) [MPLS: Label 142 Exp 0] 119 ms 137 ms 121 ms 19 orsay-g0-0-0-170.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.179.90) 117 ms 125 ms 121 ms 20 ups-orsay.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.183.29) 137 ms 135 ms 121 ms 21 * 129.175.127.130 (129.175.127.130) 158 ms !A * -Josh On 10/26/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the version - it's version 0.33 and I never published it. You can specify any game ever played on cgos and it will bring it up. You can also bring several up like this: cgosview.exe -server cgos.lri.fr -port 6919 -games 1 2 3 4 5 99 17 If Olivier puts up a front page of some kind I will update the viewing client to work with the new 19x19 site by default and he can post them. - Don Don Dailey wrote: Actually, I just tried the windows viewer on my linux system and it worked! I guess wine, the windows emulator has come a long way! Here is what I did: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 I did this from a bash shell and it came up just fine on my edgy eft ubuntu system. If a windows program runs on linux, it has to work on windows! - Don Don Dailey wrote: As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Alrighty figured it out ./cgosviewer cgos.lri.fr 6919 Sorry was going from various emails, but it works now :) yuppy -Josh ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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Which version of the viewer do you have? I don't think this works unless you have the right version which I don't think I've published yet. Also, you might have the wrong server. He now has it as cgos.lri.fr So try this: ./cgosview cgos.lri.fr 6919 You can also try the -server and -port but I don't think it will work.Sorry about the confusion. - Don Joshua Shriver wrote: ./cgosviewer -server pc5-120.lri.fr -port 6919 could not execute However if I just run cgosviewer without and cli arguments I can see 9x9 fine. -Josh On 10/26/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does work, you are just doing something wrong. If it comes up, it is working but it is very slow loading the initial set of games - so you must be patient, it could take 15-30 seconds. It used to be fast, I'm not sure why it's slowed down but it's probably a database issue - the database is huge now (and I use sqlite3 which is very fast for smaller databases, but not as scalable as slower more heavy duty databases like mysql.) Make sure you have the version of the viewing from the 9x9 website. Also, make sure you are using the right port number, it used to be 6819 now it's 6919, Olivier used a different port for some reason. - Don Joshua Shriver wrote: I'm not able to connect to the 19x19 server either. I even tried telnet'ing to it. Cgosviewer keeps telling me could not execute, but I dont believe it's a binary problem since if I just run the viewer it comes up (just doesnt connect to anything) Here is the tail of a traceroute. 8 nri-a-g1-0-0-101.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.187.17) [MPLS: Label 142 Exp 0] 119 ms 137 ms 121 ms 19 orsay-g0-0-0-170.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.179.90) 117 ms 125 ms 121 ms 20 ups-orsay.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.183.29) 137 ms 135 ms 121 ms 21 * 129.175.127.130 (129.175.127.130) 158 ms !A * -Josh On 10/26/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the version - it's version 0.33 and I never published it. You can specify any game ever played on cgos and it will bring it up. You can also bring several up like this: cgosview.exe -server cgos.lri.fr -port 6919 -games 1 2 3 4 5 99 17 If Olivier puts up a front page of some kind I will update the viewing client to work with the new 19x19 site by default and he can post them. - Don Don Dailey wrote: Actually, I just tried the windows viewer on my linux system and it worked! I guess wine, the windows emulator has come a long way! Here is what I did: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 I did this from a bash shell and it came up just fine on my edgy eft ubuntu system. If a windows program runs on linux, it has to work on windows! - Don Don Dailey wrote: As far as I know the viewer works just fine. Has anyone else tried the windows viewer on the new 19x19 site? I haven't tried it with windows, but you must pass the site and port number to the viewer from the command line like this: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 The viewer is a really nice way to look at games. A 3rd argument will let you view a specific game number: cgosview.exe cgos.lri.fr 6919 777 (view game 777) - Don David Fotland wrote: no, I never got the viewer to work for me. I was too conservative with time control so Many Faces is only playing at level 8 (of 10), and finishing its games in 2 or 3 minutes. But it's winning them all, so I guess I should prefer short time limits :) Since Many Faces was originally written for a 12 MHz x286, it works pretty well at very short time limits. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:30 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Are you able to watch the games in the viewer ok?I am watching one of your games right now. - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from
RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
10 minutes is slightly too fast for Many Faces full strength. It plays most of the game at level 10, then drops down. Also, the gnugo 10 that's fixed at 1800 doesn't remove dead stones, so the score is often wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:24 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Olivier needs to put a .htaccess file in the SGF directory that looks like this: -[ snip ]--- AddType application/x-go-sgf sgf -[ snip ]- - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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Any chance of getting some extra data fields in the viewer, such as the time remaining for each player? On 10/27/07, David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 minutes is slightly too fast for Many Faces full strength. It plays most of the game at level 10, then drops down. Also, the gnugo 10 that's fixed at 1800 doesn't remove dead stones, so the score is often wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:24 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Olivier needs to put a .htaccess file in the SGF directory that looks like this: -[ snip ]--- AddType application/x-go-sgf sgf -[ snip ]- - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Who is running gnugo 10?You must using the right options. Here is how I run it: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules --positional-superko There is also a min-level and max-level setting - not sure what that does but I think this puts in some default level mode which is reasonbly strong. - Don David Fotland wrote: 10 minutes is slightly too fast for Many Faces full strength. It plays most of the game at level 10, then drops down. Also, the gnugo 10 that's fixed at 1800 doesn't remove dead stones, so the score is often wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:24 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Olivier needs to put a .htaccess file in the SGF directory that looks like this: -[ snip ]--- AddType application/x-go-sgf sgf -[ snip ]- - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
This information is already reported to the viewer, so it's a simple matter of programming!I may get around to it someday ;-) And tcl/tk programmers out there? The client can easily be improved and the source code is packed inside the kit itself if you know how to to get to it. (by using a utility called sdx.kit) I think it could be fixed in an hour or two. - Don Chris Fant wrote: Any chance of getting some extra data fields in the viewer, such as the time remaining for each player? On 10/27/07, David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 minutes is slightly too fast for Many Faces full strength. It plays most of the game at level 10, then drops down. Also, the gnugo 10 that's fixed at 1800 doesn't remove dead stones, so the score is often wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:24 PM To: computer-go Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS Olivier needs to put a .htaccess file in the SGF directory that looks like this: -[ snip ]--- AddType application/x-go-sgf sgf -[ snip ]- - Don David Fotland wrote: I puton Many Faces version 11, but it might not be playing at fill strength. It ouwld be nice if I can click on a game to see the sgf record. right now it gives an error. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: computer-go Subject: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS The cgos 19x19 server is seemingly ok, the port 6919 is now opened for all the universe. The name of the machine is cgos.lri.fr (and not pc5-120.lri.fr as previously). The port is 6919. It is 19x19, 10 minutes per side for testing; I will move to something longer later (depending on what people prefer, I'll do a weighted average of durations suggested on the mailing list :-) ). http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgosStandings.html Unfortunately, I'll be away from my email from tomorrow to wednesday and will not be able to correct the troubles that people will almost surely find in this installation; sorry for that. The installation is a bit complicated in order to avoid troubles due to the firewall and I am almost sure that some troubles will appear very soon :-) All comments welcome (in particular in the next hours as I am still close to my computer a few hours :-) ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
Sorry for the trouble for downloading the SGF files on the 19x19 server; it is seemingly ok now. Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
