[computer-go] Location for US Go Congress computer tournament
The Linux lab is in the Fourth Avenue Building, room 81-03. Leave some time to find it; the building is rather labyrinthine. I'll be there by 8:30 AM Monday, possibly a bit earlier, so hopefully people can set up and then go play in the US Open. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Use tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe for Windows
I think I found the reason for my confusion. If I just run tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit nothing happens but if I redirect stderr with tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit 2log.txt I get the expected text in the logfile. But if I now do tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit -s 2log.txt the parameter -s is ignored and I get the same result as the previous line had. But I found the solution. There are two different versions of tclkit for windows, and I needed to use the commandline version of course. Otherwise the handlings of stdin, stdout and stderr does not work properly. So use the file with sh in the name: tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe found at http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/download.html -Magnus Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Magnus. I think I have a properly up to date client now. Below is a sample configuration file I am using for gnugo. You can run it with the appropriate cgosGtp.something for your platform. I use cgosGtp.kit and use the tcl runtime for my platform but you can use one of the binaries. Or you can use the pure tcl script if you have tcl installed. You can run cgosGtp -c config_file to make it happen. You can run it without any arguments to get usage instructions. You can make it give you a sample configuration file by doing cgosGtp.tcl -s You can have multiple sections and play different versions or different programs, it will take turns using the specified priorities. If you want 8 out of 10 games to be played with programA you would set priorities 8 and 2 for program A and program B respectively. Or you could set 80 and 20, etc.You can do 8 2 0 if you have 3 programs and you do not want to play one of them. # config file for playing gnugo # - %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6813 %section player name Gnugo-3.7.10-a1 password somePassword invokegnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules --min-level 10 --max-level 10 --positional-superko priority 7 On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:26 +0200, Magnus Persson wrote: This reminds of that I have always used an ancient client to connect to the 9x9 go servers. The link for connecting to the 19x19 on http://cgos.boardspace.net/ is for an older clinet I think. So I would like to know how to connect using cgosgtp.tcl in windows with a configuraton file. I have .bat containing the single line tclkit cgosGtp.tcl -c config13.txt -k Quit.txt which leads to tcl popping up the error msg: This isn't a TK applicatinBad window path name config13.txt (The missing space and missing s in windows is as it is shown) Any hints are wellcome! Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, the 13x13 server is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions that will probably be understandable for those with bots already running: Everything remains basically the same except the port and the location of the web pages. SIZE PORT - - 9x9 6867 13x136813 19x196819 (not up yet) The web pages are not linked yet from the main page. However the URL differs only in the initial directory path, it will be 9x9, 13x13 or 19x19 (when it's ready) and here is the main standings page for the 13x13 server as an example: http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/standings.html It would be nice to get a few bots on 13x13 to get it started off. The instructions for the viewers are on the main web page, but to refresh your memory here is how to view the 13x13 games: /home/drd/bin/cgosview.kit -server cgos.boardspace.net -port 6813 - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ -- Magnus Persson Berlin, Germany ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Use tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe for Windows
I'm sorry about that Magnus. I knew about this, but it's not made very clear anywhere and I forgot about it. tclkit for linux is a single executable that runs gui apps and/or command line apps. But tclkit on windows is confusing because there is two of them, one with tk the GUI stuff in it, and it doesn't work as well (or at all?) for command line apps. I'm still planning a graphical version - it will probably look like the viewer, but will graphically follow your engine in a single GUI board. I don't sense anyone really wants this, but I could probably build it with mostly cut and paste code from the viewer and the gui together. - Don On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 13:16 +0200, Magnus Persson wrote: I think I found the reason for my confusion. If I just run tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit nothing happens but if I redirect stderr with tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit 2log.txt I get the expected text in the logfile. But if I now do tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit -s 2log.txt the parameter -s is ignored and I get the same result as the previous line had. But I found the solution. There are two different versions of tclkit for windows, and I needed to use the commandline version of course. Otherwise the handlings of stdin, stdout and stderr does not work properly. So use the file with sh in the name: tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe found at http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/download.html -Magnus Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Magnus. I think I have a properly up to date client now. Below is a sample configuration file I am using for gnugo. You can run it with the appropriate cgosGtp.something for your platform. I use cgosGtp.kit and use the tcl runtime for my platform but you can use one of the binaries. Or you can use the pure tcl script if you have tcl installed. You can run cgosGtp -c config_file to make it happen. You can run it without any arguments to get usage instructions. You can make it give you a sample configuration file by doing cgosGtp.tcl -s You can have multiple sections and play different versions or different programs, it will take turns using the specified priorities. If you want 8 out of 10 games to be played with programA you would set priorities 8 and 2 for program A and program B respectively. Or you could set 80 and 20, etc.You can do 8 2 0 if you have 3 programs and you do not want to play one of them. # config file for playing gnugo # - %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6813 %section player name Gnugo-3.7.10-a1 password somePassword invokegnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules --min-level 10 --max-level 10 --positional-superko priority 7 On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:26 +0200, Magnus Persson wrote: This reminds of that I have always used an ancient client to connect to the 9x9 go servers. The link for connecting to the 19x19 on http://cgos.boardspace.net/ is for an older clinet I think. So I would like to know how to connect using cgosgtp.tcl in windows with a configuraton file. I have .bat containing the single line tclkit cgosGtp.tcl -c config13.txt -k Quit.txt which leads to tcl popping up the error msg: This isn't a TK applicatinBad window path name config13.txt (The missing space and missing s in windows is as it is shown) Any hints are wellcome! Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, the 13x13 server is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions that will probably be understandable for those with bots already running: Everything remains basically the same except the port and the location of the web pages. SIZE PORT - - 9x9 6867 13x136813 19x196819 (not up yet) The web pages are not linked yet from the main page. However the URL differs only in the initial directory path, it will be 9x9, 13x13 or 19x19 (when it's ready) and here is the main standings page for the 13x13 server as an example: http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/standings.html It would be nice to get a few bots on 13x13 to get it started off. The instructions for the viewers are on the main web page, but to refresh your memory here is how to view the 13x13 games: /home/drd/bin/cgosview.kit -server cgos.boardspace.net -port 6813 - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list
Re: [computer-go] cgos server news
Olivier, I'm going to bring it up today. It's up to you whether you want to keep running it meanwhile, but hopefully in the next 2 or 3 hours I will get it up and running. - Don On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 14:24 +0200, Olivier Teytaud wrote: We will add a 19x19 CGOS on boardspace and keep it running. We thank Olivier Teytaud for his time and trouble spent hosting a 19x19 server temporarily for us and I'm sure he will be happy to no longer have to deal with it. Thank you Olivier! Thanks to you mainly; I'll stop the 19x19 server when this new 19x19 server will be up and running. For the moment, the 19x19 server is back and running - sorry for the delay. Olivier ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Use tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe for Windows
I would like to remind everyone that cgosGtp.kit was broken before yesterday. I'm not sure of the status of the other cgosGtp versions you could download but I updated them all to be sure. But I know for sure the kit version was broken but it is good now. - Don On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 13:16 +0200, Magnus Persson wrote: I think I found the reason for my confusion. If I just run tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit nothing happens but if I redirect stderr with tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit 2log.txt I get the expected text in the logfile. But if I now do tclkit.exe cgosGtp.kit -s 2log.txt the parameter -s is ignored and I get the same result as the previous line had. But I found the solution. There are two different versions of tclkit for windows, and I needed to use the commandline version of course. Otherwise the handlings of stdin, stdout and stderr does not work properly. So use the file with sh in the name: tclkitsh-win32.upx.exe found at http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/download.html -Magnus Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Magnus. I think I have a properly up to date client now. Below is a sample configuration file I am using for gnugo. You can run it with the appropriate cgosGtp.something for your platform. I use cgosGtp.kit and use the tcl runtime for my platform but you can use one of the binaries. Or you can use the pure tcl script if you have tcl installed. You can run cgosGtp -c config_file to make it happen. You can run it without any arguments to get usage instructions. You can make it give you a sample configuration file by doing cgosGtp.tcl -s You can have multiple sections and play different versions or different programs, it will take turns using the specified priorities. If you want 8 out of 10 games to be played with programA you would set priorities 8 and 2 for program A and program B respectively. Or you could set 80 and 20, etc.You can do 8 2 0 if you have 3 programs and you do not want to play one of them. # config file for playing gnugo # - %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6813 %section player name Gnugo-3.7.10-a1 password somePassword invokegnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules --min-level 10 --max-level 10 --positional-superko priority 7 On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:26 +0200, Magnus Persson wrote: This reminds of that I have always used an ancient client to connect to the 9x9 go servers. The link for connecting to the 19x19 on http://cgos.boardspace.net/ is for an older clinet I think. So I would like to know how to connect using cgosgtp.tcl in windows with a configuraton file. I have .bat containing the single line tclkit cgosGtp.tcl -c config13.txt -k Quit.txt which leads to tcl popping up the error msg: This isn't a TK applicatinBad window path name config13.txt (The missing space and missing s in windows is as it is shown) Any hints are wellcome! Quoting Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, the 13x13 server is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions that will probably be understandable for those with bots already running: Everything remains basically the same except the port and the location of the web pages. SIZE PORT - - 9x9 6867 13x136813 19x196819 (not up yet) The web pages are not linked yet from the main page. However the URL differs only in the initial directory path, it will be 9x9, 13x13 or 19x19 (when it's ready) and here is the main standings page for the 13x13 server as an example: http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/standings.html It would be nice to get a few bots on 13x13 to get it started off. The instructions for the viewers are on the main web page, but to refresh your memory here is how to view the 13x13 games: /home/drd/bin/cgosview.kit -server cgos.boardspace.net -port 6813 - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] CGOS 19x19 up and running
Ok, I have 19x19 up and running. Instructions are basically the same as for 13x13, the only thing changing about the web pages and so on in the urls's is the directory /19x19/ instead of /13x13/ and the port for the client is 6819. I will update the main web page to reflect the changes and provide links later. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] CGOS request
The main web page for CGOS has been updated with links to the various standings pages and updated instructions for using the clients. I hope to get 1 or 2 volunteers to run the gnugo anchor for either 13x13 or 19x19.It's good to get more than 1. I have a spare computer I use and can run 1 anchor, but it's not clear that I can run them both without faltering on time once in a while. Gnugo is fairly resource intensive - is anyone aware of a program that has a much better strength/time tradeoff? Hopefully something just as strong as gnugo but not as slow? Or perhaps a little weaker but much faster? It seems to be pushing it running gnugo 3.7.10 for BOTH 19x19 and 13x13 on a slower spare computer I have. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 up and running
Hi, Are the old game archives still available anywhere, or will they be in future? I am missing May, June, and July, and I was meaning to download them. Have I missed my chance? On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have 19x19 up and running. Instructions are basically the same as for 13x13, the only thing changing about the web pages and so on in the urls's is the directory /19x19/ instead of /13x13/ and the port for the client is 6819. I will update the main web page to reflect the changes and provide links later. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS request
After I get home from the Congress I can set up a machine that can run GNU Go, most probably for 2 board sizes. Cheers, David On 3, Aug 2008, at 11:12 AM, Don Dailey wrote: The main web page for CGOS has been updated with links to the various standings pages and updated instructions for using the clients. I hope to get 1 or 2 volunteers to run the gnugo anchor for either 13x13 or 19x19.It's good to get more than 1. I have a spare computer I use and can run 1 anchor, but it's not clear that I can run them both without faltering on time once in a while. Gnugo is fairly resource intensive - is anyone aware of a program that has a much better strength/time tradeoff? Hopefully something just as strong as gnugo but not as slow? Or perhaps a little weaker but much faster? It seems to be pushing it running gnugo 3.7.10 for BOTH 19x19 and 13x13 on a slower spare computer I have. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Archives available
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:47 -0400, Imran Hendley wrote: Hi, Are the old game archives still available anywhere, or will they be in future? I am missing May, June, and July, and I was meaning to download them. Have I missed my chance? The 9x9 archives are now available through July 2008. Of course there is nothing for 13x13 and 19x19 for July since these are new to CGOS. - Don On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have 19x19 up and running. Instructions are basically the same as for 13x13, the only thing changing about the web pages and so on in the urls's is the directory /19x19/ instead of /13x13/ and the port for the client is 6819. I will update the main web page to reflect the changes and provide links later. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS request
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:47 -0700, David Doshay wrote: After I get home from the Congress I can set up a machine that can run GNU Go, most probably for 2 board sizes. That would be greatly appreciated. It must be version 3.7.10 and I will send you the parameters I am using to invoke it. I will also need to know what you call it so that I can register it as an anchor. I suggest Gnugo-3.7.10-a2 - the a2 means anchor 2 since I already have anchor 1 running temporarily. But you can use a different name if you want to. - Don Cheers, David On 3, Aug 2008, at 11:12 AM, Don Dailey wrote: The main web page for CGOS has been updated with links to the various standings pages and updated instructions for using the clients. I hope to get 1 or 2 volunteers to run the gnugo anchor for either 13x13 or 19x19.It's good to get more than 1. I have a spare computer I use and can run 1 anchor, but it's not clear that I can run them both without faltering on time once in a while. Gnugo is fairly resource intensive - is anyone aware of a program that has a much better strength/time tradeoff? Hopefully something just as strong as gnugo but not as slow? Or perhaps a little weaker but much faster? It seems to be pushing it running gnugo 3.7.10 for BOTH 19x19 and 13x13 on a slower spare computer I have. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Java SGF Parser
I'm looking for a nice Java SGF library that allows you to parse SGF files into a simple tree, and to serialize your own tree back to SGF. I've looked at a few of the open source Go projects currently out there, and I've searched the computer-go archives (and even found a post from myself a few years back on the subject), but haven't found anything that seems very robust. So, my question here is twofold: 1) Does anybody know of a good Java SGF parser out there? 2) What would your criteria be for a good SGF parser? (e.g. it's more important that it's fast than memory-efficient, or vice-versa, or have a certain API, or allow for traversing the game tree without holding the entire file in memory, etc.) If I can't find a good one out there, I may write one myself, probably based on JavaCC/SableCC, which I'm somewhat familiar with. Thanks in advance for any feedback, ~ Ross ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Java SGF Parser
At 05:55 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote: I'm looking for a nice Java SGF library that allows you to parse SGF files into a simple tree, and to serialize your own tree back to SGF. ... i wrote one in java a few years ago. iirc, i based it on gnugo's parser. i was trying to compile annotations from previous instances of a and sgf file to a later version, that had more moves, but was missing some of the annotations. if you have any interest, let me know and i will send you a zip. thanks --- vice-chair http://ocjug.org/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Java SGF Parser
1) Does anybody know of a good Java SGF parser out there? I have one I've used for many types of games, including Go. I've used it to represent large collections with no problems. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Re: Java SGF Parser
1) Does anybody know of a good Java SGF parser out there? I have one I've used for many types of games, including Go. I've used it to represent large collections with no problems. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
