Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Urban Hafner]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Joshua Shriver  wrote:

> Thank you so much for running CGOS!  Looks like it's running very
> smoothly and  you are doing a great job.
>

Yes! Thanks again. It’s great to have 9x9 and 19x19 versions again with
some strong bots playing. Great to see that everyone is participating again!


> Would you like me to take down the boardspace site, and make a referal
> link to your CGOS?   That way we can migrate and make sure people are
> all working on the right server.
>

Something seems to be wrong with the 13x13 front end. At least the current
standings page isn’t updating anymore. But the bots can still connect and
play. So maybe having all run by the same person would be preferable. Maybe
just starting a 13x13 some day on your server would be a good start
Hiroshi? Then everyone could connect and the redirect from boardspace.net
could come at a later point.

Unfortunately I don’t have a spare computer right now or I would run a few
bots myself to keep it populated. Hm … I actually might have some capacity
for a bot or two that doesn’t take up many resources (it will run on a $10
digitalocean.com box). Any preferences?

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Rémi Coulom]

BTW, CrazyStone-0002 (on 19x19, not 9x9) is running on my desktop PC 
(i7-5930K). At first, it was running with 4 cores. But then it lost its 
first game to Aya. I was so impressed by the strength of Aya! So I made 
it use 6 threads instead. It has been using 6 threads since then.


I can't run it permanently, but if strong programs want to try it, just 
ask, and I will let it play during one night.


Rémi

On 11/20/2015 02:23 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi Remi,

running "mm 1 1" instead of just "mm". It just estimates the 
maximum-likelihood value of drawelo by itself. Or just set drawelo to 20 


I tried. CrazyStone-0002 Elo changed a bit on each setting.
It looks difficult. So I set drawelo 20.
 Elo
drawelo 0.01, mm,  CrazyStone-0002   2713
drawelo 0.01, mm 1 1,  CrazyStone-0002   2767
drawelo 20,   mm,  CrazyStone-0002   2746


I'll connect Crazy Stone to 19x19 too.


Thanks!

Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi Remi,

I have relaxed a bit because I thought you use Atom 1.86GHz.
Aya486m_4c is running on i7-980X 3.3GHz with 4 cores.

Recently I changed Learning method for progressive windening
from MM to LFR. And accuracy changed from 38.8% to 40.7%.
It makes +70 Elo in selfplay. So I had a bit confidence, but
still CS is big wall. But I have another idea for UEC cup :-)

Hiroshi Yamashita

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From: "Rémi Coulom" <remi.cou...@free.fr>

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:17 AM
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BTW, CrazyStone-0002 (on 19x19, not 9x9) is running on my desktop PC (i7-5930K). At first, it was running with 4 
cores. But then it lost its first game to Aya. I was so impressed by the strength of Aya! So I made it use 6 threads 
instead. It has been using 6 threads since then.


I can't run it permanently, but if strong programs want to try it, just ask, 
and I will let it play during one night.

Rémi


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Rémi Coulom]

Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks for taking care of CGOS.

drawelo 0.01 was suggested when komi was 7.5. When draws are possible, 
it should be higher.


You can estimate a good value of drawelo if you have many games, by 
running "mm 1 1" instead of just "mm". It just estimates the 
maximum-likelihood value of drawelo by itself. Or just set drawelo to 20 
or something like this. It does not matter much, anyway.


I'll connect Crazy Stone to 19x19 too.

Rémi

On 11/20/2015 12:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi,

Now CGOS has recent 300 games on cross-table page.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/cross/CrazyStone-0002.html
Back color red is Loss, and green is Draw.

And I added BayesElo pages.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/bayes.html
Thanks a lot for your support, Joshua!

Now CGOS handles Draw in 9x9.
Remi, is this setting OK? I also use your program "bayeselo".

drawelo 0.01

I found this from 8 yeae's ago mail.
https://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@computer-go.org/msg05740.html

In 19x19, two DCNN programs are running.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
DCNN-Detlf uses Detlef's network data.
DCNN-No133 uses original learning data by Fukumoto-san, author of 
HiraBot.
Both bot are running by Fukumoto-san, and they make a move without 
search.


Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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To: <computer-go@computer-go.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again



Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks a lot for running CGOS!

I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my 
web server:

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
I plan to let it play forever.

I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I 
suppose that may be on purpose.


Rémi

On 11/10/2015 02:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi,

I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
19x19 and 9x9 are running.
In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
I'll keep it running for a while.
13x13 is running on original server.

  time   serverportkomi
9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi Remi,

running "mm 1 1" instead of just "mm". It just estimates the 
maximum-likelihood value of drawelo by itself. Or just set drawelo to 20 


I tried. CrazyStone-0002 Elo changed a bit on each setting.
It looks difficult. So I set drawelo 20.  


 Elo
drawelo 0.01, mm,  CrazyStone-0002   2713
drawelo 0.01, mm 1 1,  CrazyStone-0002   2767
drawelo 20,   mm,  CrazyStone-0002   2746


I'll connect Crazy Stone to 19x19 too.


Thanks!

Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Joshua Shriver]

Thank you so much for running CGOS!  Looks like it's running very
smoothly and  you are doing a great job.

Would you like me to take down the boardspace site, and make a referal
link to your CGOS?   That way we can migrate and make sure people are
all working on the right server.

-Josh

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Now CGOS has recent 300 games on cross-table page.
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/cross/CrazyStone-0002.html
> Back color red is Loss, and green is Draw.
>
> And I added BayesElo pages.
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/bayes.html
> Thanks a lot for your support, Joshua!
>
> Now CGOS handles Draw in 9x9.
> Remi, is this setting OK? I also use your program "bayeselo".
>
> drawelo 0.01
>
> I found this from 8 yeae's ago mail.
> https://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@computer-go.org/msg05740.html
>
> In 19x19, two DCNN programs are running.
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
> DCNN-Detlf uses Detlef's network data.
> DCNN-No133 uses original learning data by Fukumoto-san, author of HiraBot.
> Both bot are running by Fukumoto-san, and they make a move without search.
>
> Regards,
> Hiroshi Yamashita
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rémi Coulom" <remi.cou...@free.fr>
> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again
>
>
>> Hi Hiroshi,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for running CGOS!
>>
>> I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web
>> server:
>> Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
>> I plan to let it play forever.
>>
>> I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I
>> suppose that may be on purpose.
>>
>> Rémi
>>
>> On 11/10/2015 02:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
>>> 19x19 and 9x9 are running.
>>> In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
>>> I'll keep it running for a while.
>>> 13x13 is running on original server.
>>>
>>>   time   serverportkomi
>>> 9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
>>> 19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
>>> 13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5
>>>
>>> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
>>> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
>>> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hiroshi Yamashita
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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi,

Now CGOS has recent 300 games on cross-table page.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/cross/CrazyStone-0002.html
Back color red is Loss, and green is Draw.

And I added BayesElo pages.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/bayes.html
Thanks a lot for your support, Joshua!

Now CGOS handles Draw in 9x9.
Remi, is this setting OK? I also use your program "bayeselo".

drawelo 0.01

I found this from 8 yeae's ago mail.
https://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@computer-go.org/msg05740.html

In 19x19, two DCNN programs are running.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
DCNN-Detlf uses Detlef's network data.
DCNN-No133 uses original learning data by Fukumoto-san, author of HiraBot.
Both bot are running by Fukumoto-san, and they make a move without search.

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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From: "Rémi Coulom" <remi.cou...@free.fr>

To: <computer-go@computer-go.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again



Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks a lot for running CGOS!

I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web server:
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
I plan to let it play forever.

I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I suppose 
that may be on purpose.

Rémi

On 11/10/2015 02:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi,

I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
19x19 and 9x9 are running.
In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
I'll keep it running for a while.
13x13 is running on original server.

  time   serverportkomi
9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi Joshua,

Thank you for your offer.
I'm glad if you could.
And I'd like to say thank you to Don, CGOS is really nice programs.

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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To: "computer-go" <computer-go@computer-go.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again



Thank you so much for running CGOS!  Looks like it's running very
smoothly and  you are doing a great job.

Would you like me to take down the boardspace site, and make a referal
link to your CGOS?   That way we can migrate and make sure people are
all working on the right server.

-Josh

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> wrote:

Hi,

Now CGOS has recent 300 games on cross-table page.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/cross/CrazyStone-0002.html
Back color red is Loss, and green is Draw.

And I added BayesElo pages.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/bayes.html
Thanks a lot for your support, Joshua!

Now CGOS handles Draw in 9x9.
Remi, is this setting OK? I also use your program "bayeselo".

drawelo 0.01

I found this from 8 yeae's ago mail.
https://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@computer-go.org/msg05740.html

In 19x19, two DCNN programs are running.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
DCNN-Detlf uses Detlef's network data.
DCNN-No133 uses original learning data by Fukumoto-san, author of HiraBot.
Both bot are running by Fukumoto-san, and they make a move without search.

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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To: <computer-go@computer-go.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again



Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks a lot for running CGOS!

I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web
server:
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
I plan to let it play forever.

I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I
suppose that may be on purpose.

Rémi

On 11/10/2015 02:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:


Hi,

I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
19x19 and 9x9 are running.
In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
I'll keep it running for a while.
13x13 is running on original server.

  time   serverportkomi
9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi Remi,


I plan to let it play forever.


That's awesome!
Strong program is nice benchmark and motivation for others
(of cource including me).


I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns.


Yes, when Aya783a_50 resigns, it waits about 3 minutes in 9x9. And it
waits 2sec each move. My VPS is very slow, about 400MHz. And Aya783a_50
and some anchors run on it. So I feel it need wait. And too short game
cycle makes big sqlite3 db. It is not good for server.
Anyway I will run CGOS at least for a year.

Hiroshi Yamashita

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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
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Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks a lot for running CGOS!

I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web server:
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
I plan to let it play forever.

I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I suppose 
that may be on purpose.

Rémi


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Joshua Shriver]

Thank you so much for running this!
-Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp> wrote:
> Hi Remi,
>
>> I plan to let it play forever.
>
>
> That's awesome!
> Strong program is nice benchmark and motivation for others
> (of cource including me).
>
>> I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns.
>
>
> Yes, when Aya783a_50 resigns, it waits about 3 minutes in 9x9. And it
> waits 2sec each move. My VPS is very slow, about 400MHz. And Aya783a_50
> and some anchors run on it. So I feel it need wait. And too short game
> cycle makes big sqlite3 db. It is not good for server.
> Anyway I will run CGOS at least for a year.
>
> Hiroshi Yamashita
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rémi Coulom" <remi.cou...@free.fr>
> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again
>
>
>> Hi Hiroshi,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for running CGOS!
>>
>> I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web
>> server:
>> Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
>> I plan to let it play forever.
>>
>> I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I
>> suppose that may be on purpose.
>>
>> Rémi
>
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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Rémi Coulom]

Hi Hiroshi,

Thanks a lot for running CGOS!

I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web 
server:

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz
I plan to let it play forever.

I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I 
suppose that may be on purpose.


Rémi

On 11/10/2015 02:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi,

I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
19x19 and 9x9 are running.
In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
I'll keep it running for a while.
13x13 is running on original server.

  time   serverportkomi
9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Urban Hafner]

Very cool, thank you!

I will see if I can start running my bot on there soon.

Urban

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
> 19x19 and 9x9 are running.
> In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
> I'll keep it running for a while.
> 13x13 is running on original server.
>
>   time   serverportkomi
> 9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
> 19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
> 13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5
>
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
>
> Regards,
> Hiroshi Yamashita
>
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[Computer-go] CGOS again

[Hiroshi Yamashita]

Hi,

I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server).
19x19 and 9x9 are running.
In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating calc.
I'll keep it running for a while.
13x13 is running on original server.

  time   serverportkomi
9x9  5 minutesyss-aya.com   68097.0
19x19   15 minutesyss-aya.com   68197.5
13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net   68137.5

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

Regards,
Hiroshi Yamashita

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

[Detlef Schmicker]

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Thanks a lot,

mine did not run stable, hope you have more luck! I think I had to
little RAM (128MB)

Detlef

Am 10.11.2015 um 14:11 schrieb Hiroshi Yamashita:
> Hi,
> 
> I have started CGOS on my VPS(Virtual Private Server). 19x19 and 
> 9x9 are running. In 9x9, komi is 7.0. Draw is 0.5 win in rating 
> calc. I'll keep it running for a while. 13x13 is running on 
> original server.
> 
> time   serverportkomi 9x9  5 minutes 
> yss-aya.com   68097.0 19x19   15 minutes
> yss-aya.com 68197.5 13x13   10 minutescgos.boardspace.net
> 6813 7.5
> 
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/ 
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/9x9/standings.html 
> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html
> 
> Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita
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