Re: [Computer-go] Very interesting presentation of Fan Hui about AlphaGo

[Robert Jasiek]

Fan Hui's presentation was very disappointing, except for the statement 
that there will be a website with commentaries on AlphaGo games. The 
other possibly interesting information that its play suggests one might 
play everything during the opening was not new to me, who I have applied 
this insight since 2004 in my games.


I understand how hard it was to get a visa and that Aja Huang failed to 
get one. The Q section was missing so in particular none of my 
questions below could be answered yet. I do not give up hope, so here my 
questions are again:



1) When will there be a commercial program for an ordinary PC having 
AlphaGo's strength?


2) During the Lee Sedol match, how would disconnection from the 
internet, hardware failure, operating system failure or software failure 
have been handled? Would AlphaGo have lost such a game?


3) How well does AlphaGo play in exceptional positions designed by 
theoreticians, such as complex capturing races or multiple kos with long 
cycles?


4) Is it possible to relate AlphaGos data structures with human go 
theory? Can we learn go theory from them (e.g., how to play ko threats)? 
Can AlphaGo learn from human go theory (e.g., how to play ko threats)?


5) Why exactly did AlphaGo improve so fast?

6) When will a program only self-learning go from scratch by itself 
reach AlphaGo's strength?


7) What does AlphaGo mean for the progress of General Artificial 
Intelligence?


8) Suppose one day there is General Artificial Intelligence and it is 
used for a task involving responsibility, such as health care or car 
driving. Who has which legal responsibility if the General Artificial 
Intelligence makes mistakes killing people?



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robert jasiek
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Re: [Computer-go] Very interesting presentation of Fan Hui about AlphaGo

[Aja Huang]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Aja Huang  wrote:
>
> four AlphaGo v18 vs. AlphaGo v18 self-play games
>

Correction: There will be three v18 self-play games, not four.

Regards,
Aja
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Re: [Computer-go] Very interesting presentation of Fan Hui about AlphaGo

[Aja Huang]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:55 PM, J. van der Steen <
j.van.der.st...@gobase.org> wrote:

>
> Dear Alexander Kozlovsky,
>
> Are the sheets of this presentation available somewhere by any chance. The
> sheets are a bit hard to read in the video on YouTube.
>

Hi,

Thanks for the interest. We are posting some AlphaGo commentaries (five Lee
Sedol match games and four AlphaGo v18 vs. AlphaGo v18 self-play games) in
few weeks after our website is done. The commentaries are edited by Fan Hui
2p with comments from Gu Li 9p and Zhou Ruiyang 9p based on a lot of
AlphaGo's data. The commentaries will be free for download.

You can find some slides on Fan Hui's talk at
http://slide.sports.sina.com.cn/go/slide_2_820_106702.html#p=1
http://tour.xaoyo.com/ty/20160726/788489.html

Regards,
Aja


> best regards,
> Jan van der Steen
>
> On 26-07-16 10:29, Alexander Kozlovsky wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0-IWQ9TvLo=1545s
>>
>> The presentation was given at European Go Congress 2016 which currently
>> takes place in Saint-Petersburg.
>>
>> The video startsat 25:00
>> , and sounds
>> appears at 25:45 .
>> Fan Hui shows some very unorthodox moves considered by AlphaGo in
>> self-play games, and announced that in a few weeks there will be a site
>> with commentaries on match games between AlphaGo and Lee Sedol and also
>> on AlphaGo self-play games. The commentaries were compiled by Fan Hui 2p
>> with support of Gu Li 9p and Zhou Rulyang 9p.
>> Regards, Alexander Kozlovsky
>>
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Re: [Computer-go] Very interesting presentation of Fan Hui about AlphaGo

[J. van der Steen]

Dear Alexander Kozlovsky,

Are the sheets of this presentation available somewhere by any chance. 
The sheets are a bit hard to read in the video on YouTube.


best regards,
Jan van der Steen

On 26-07-16 10:29, Alexander Kozlovsky wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0-IWQ9TvLo=1545s

The presentation was given at European Go Congress 2016 which currently
takes place in Saint-Petersburg.

The video startsat 25:00
, and sounds
appears at 25:45 .
Fan Hui shows some very unorthodox moves considered by AlphaGo in
self-play games, and announced that in a few weeks there will be a site
with commentaries on match games between AlphaGo and Lee Sedol and also
on AlphaGo self-play games. The commentaries were compiled by Fan Hui 2p
with support of Gu Li 9p and Zhou Rulyang 9p.
Regards, Alexander Kozlovsky


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