[Computer-go] A Regression test set for exploring some limitations of current MCTS programs in Go

2012-05-16 Thread Jacques BasaldĂșa
Hi Aja,

 

The testing program codes different problems in the same sgf file

 

like in:

 

loadsgf sgf/seki/case1.sgf 4 

14 genmove w

#? [B2|J3]

 

loadsgf sgf/seki/case1.sgf 6

16 genmove w

#? [B2]

 

If you ignore the move numbers, j3 is not even a legal move. Unfortunately,
move numbers hardly mean anything since the sgf file is not a game, but a
list of stones. Each program will translate that its own way and get
different move numbers, possibly alternating B,W,B,W.. or whatever.

 

I also, don't know what the numbers 4 and 6 mean at the end of the loadsgf
command.

 

Can you please provide a list of the last moves played before the genmove
so we can verify that we are all analyzing the same position? Ideally, I
would prefer a simple sgf file without tricks representing the tested
position, but assuming that this position is reachable by just removing the
last move a number of times, I can produce the SGF file myself. I would be
happy to participate in your test.

 

Jacques.

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Re: [Computer-go] A Regression test set for exploring some limitations of current MCTS programs in Go

2012-05-16 Thread Aja Huang
Hi Jacques,

We will appreciate very much if you could participate in our test. In the
specification of GTP, about the command 'loadsgf' it says

Board size and komi are set to the values given in the sgf file. Board
configuration, number of captured stones, and move history are found by
replaying the game record up to the position* before move_number *or until
the end if omitted.

So for the command

loadsgf sgf/seki/case1.sgf 4


The program should load the position of case1.sgf BEFORE move 4, not AFTER.
Just today some author found a bug of gogui-adapter and kindly reported to
me: gogui-adapter incorrectly loads the position AFTER move_number. Markus
has already fixed the bug for us, see


https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3527339group_id=59117atid=489964


If you use gogui-adapter to translate 'loadsgf' for your program, please
download the newest version of gogui which is available at


https://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=gitgroup_id=59117


Best regards,

Aja
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Re: [Computer-go] A Regression test set for exploring some limitations of current MCTS programs in Go

2012-05-16 Thread Aja Huang
By the way, to use gogui-adapter to translate 'loadsgf' the command is
something like

./run.sh -p java -jar gogui-adapter.jar  \PATH_TO_PROGRAM \ -t
g_seki_moves.tst
(use backslash character (\) to escape the quotes in the string)

I used gogui-adapter to run pachi and Mogo as well because they both don't
support 'loadsgf'. Please don't hesitate to let me know if it doesn't work
for you.

Best regards,
Aja
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Re: [Computer-go] A Regression test set for exploring some limitations of current MCTS programs in Go

2012-05-16 Thread David Fotland
I used gogui-adapter too because many faces doesn't have loadsgf, but gogui
doesn't send the komi, so I had to adjust it by hand.

 

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limitations of current MCTS programs in Go

 

By the way, to use gogui-adapter to translate 'loadsgf' the command is
something like

./run.sh -p java -jar gogui-adapter.jar  \PATH_TO_PROGRAM \ -t
g_seki_moves.tst 
(use backslash character (\) to escape the quotes in the string)

I used gogui-adapter to run pachi and Mogo as well because they both don't
support 'loadsgf'. Please don't hesitate to let me know if it doesn't work
for you.

Best regards,
Aja

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