Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
I don't know of any studies on scanner life span. You may be able to check a few of the top scanner maker's web sites for specs, which can help a little. I would think a five-year replacement plan would be a good one, though. Look also to see how often major improvements are introduced and how often the connectivity interface changes. You will want to take advantage / keep up with those too (not just wait for things to break). Mark Snyder -Original Message- Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. david * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
David Turk sez: I struggle with this all the time when doing freelance work. I can do a portrait in my sleep, but does that mean since it's easy for me, it should be cheap? Most photographers feel they're charging for their expertise skills Exactly. It took me a long time to realize this. It probably is what put me in the most trouble. For the longest time I would charge portions of an hour if the job was a quickie, and just as quickly I was missing paying my bills. Heh heh. Once I began charging a two-hour minimum to account for driving time (time spent on the road that I can't be working with another client) and prep time (if I have to download any update files, etc. before I go), I found a number of things happened. One, I stopped grumbling so much about the terrible traffic around here. That, of course leads to a much better mood when I arrive. :) Also, my clients began to avail themselves of that two hours if what I was there to do didn't fill it, which means they asked more questions, took more notes, and learned a lot more. Sometimes I was able to write up instruction sheets for whatever I did while I was there. So, basically, while I did it to cover drive time, the minimum is that expertise and skills bit really. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Using either Roxio or Nero. Copy all the MP3 files to your harddrive in a folder. Using Roxio or Nero, make Audio CD's (Music) and then copy only enough tracks to the CD as allowed by the software. Be sure to close out the CD's (finalize) when you burn them. Sounds like about 7 CD's worth of audio. Stewart At 09:34 AM 5/8/2007, you wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Itunes. If you import the audio book into Itunes you can then burn the tracks as an audio CD. It will take more than one CD in that format. On May 8, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu When you burn the CDs, get it right the first time. I messed up when I was burning an Audivle.com book (they allow you one burn from your download) and had to pay them a little more to get a second shot. Bill * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Looking for information / considerations / experience here. I want to purchase and LCD TV for our living room on a non-expansive budget. I also want to be able to feed said TV programming not just from an attached DVR and DVD player (and VCR probably for some stuff), but also ideally other content from our computers. What do I need to do this? Is this what the Apple TV does? Does the Apple TV fill any of the other above roles such that I could eliminate the DVR or DVD or both? Any thoughts welcome. Matthew * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Matthew Taylor: Looking for information / considerations / experience here. I want to purchase and LCD TV for our living room on a non-expansive budget. I also want to be able to feed said TV programming not just from an attached DVR and DVD player (and VCR probably for some stuff), but also ideally other content from our computers. What do I need to do this? Is this what the Apple TV does? Does the Apple TV fill any of the other above roles such that I could eliminate the DVR or DVD or both? Do yourself a real favor, get a TV which can serve as a monitor or accept VGA or preferably DVI input and forget trying to for example adapt the output from your computer to your TV. I also strongly suggest getting a tuner capable of ATSC and QAM (which are the two most common HDTV formats, one for broadcast, the other for cable). * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
The thing that threw me about my client, though, was that she really didn't realize that there was an on switch. The computer was just always turned on. Fantastic confirmation of just how well the Macs do run. In contrast it would be a rare Windows user who did not know about BSOD, the three finger salute, anti-virus, anti-spyware, and patch Tuesday. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I could manage without Windows, but why not have it there, just in case? I used to do that, especially with books, but now books are obsolete and I'm gradually tossing them. When I toss an obsolete tech book that I never read that is a waste. Unlike books which are mostly not dangerous to have around (unless Homeland Security takes an interest in your reading habits), having Windows around can be potentially harmful. Would you keep a loaded shotgun at your front door, just in case? Some people would. The argument for not having Windows and not having that loaded gun is about the same. It could potentially hurt others. Both the gun and Windows owner will insist: I know what I'm doing. Yet the plague of shootings and the plague of malware would not exist if they were not around. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
I beleive that Apple TV is similar to TIVO which is a type of DVR. No, Apple TV is much less than it could or should be. It just plays files you have on disk. It has no recording functions. For that you will have to go elsewhere. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
Tom you are right and you are wrong. There are all different types of scanners. A $49.00 scanner might be just right for the once a quarter, maybe once a month scanner. But it will not be right for an institution that must scan a multitude of documents, small books etc. all the time. They may require an ADF unit, high resolution, longer platen etc. (most bottom end scanners limit to 8.5 x 11) Also note some of the higher end models with do transparency scanning while the cheaper once won't. It is not a simple answer. Stewart At 02:32 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
The apple tv does not also put out 720p in any meaningful way...meaning any movies you download from itunes or in even the trailers from Apple's own site. As engadget said in their review, it's not called the Apple HDTV for a reason. Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beleive that Apple TV is similar to TIVO which is a type of DVR. No, Apple TV is much less than it could or should be. It just plays files you have on disk. It has no recording functions. For that you will have to go elsewhere. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
It doesn't matter why he wants Windows on the Mac (he did tell us later on). It never occured to me to ask WHY he wanted to do it, I simply assumed that he had a need that the Mac was not able to meet on its own. The strident reactions remind me of a time when I was frequently telling people on a bus, airplane, waiting room, etc.: This is not a smoking area. Many were indignant that I was violating their rights. I am happy that times have changed. The point is that by using Windows you are harming me and I wish you would stop. The malware, spam, and security measures are becoming too much to bear. I should not be forced to build walls and hire guards just because you insist on running a crackhouse. Stop running defective software! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop running defective software! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
BTW, a lot of the new higher-end copy machines will also let you scan and save in various formats, although 600 dpi might be a bit of a stretch, and I don't know about the size of the scans on the average high-end copy machine, either. The machines cost a fortune, but if you need to both copy and scan... I take it you're looking for a flatbed scanner--the tray-feed ones aren't nearly as common, so there might not be much in the way of statistical databases on their lifespan. As a rule, you can get a moderately priced flatbed scanner for a lot less than a similar quality tray-feed scanner. But the tray-feed machine is much more efficient if you have to scan a lot of pages. I'm getting ready to scan about 60 documents right now, and--thank heavens--I'll be using a five-year-old Canon DR5080-C, not the dinky little flatbed scanner that it replaced. --Constance Warner -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:33 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I have spent over $10,000 on hardware this year, and untold time, that serves no purpose other than to scrub spam. I can tell you from experience, logs and stats that 90% of our spam is coming from infected Windows machines. I am beginning to firmly believe that Windows IS a virus. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: The point is that by using Windows you are harming me and I wish you would stop. The malware, spam, and security measures are becoming too much to bear. I should not be forced to build walls and hire guards just because you insist on running a crackhouse. Stop running defective software! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Tivo and other DVRs get their scheduling information from services like Tribune. If the programmer doesn't give them updating information, then these services will not have it either. I like to check sites like Titantv and Zap2it for my regular tv guide info. My Tivo makes daily calls for scheduling data but ... see above. YMMV I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it does not pick it up on Season Pass. -- So it goes - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922-2007) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
I used to do that sort of work. I think you did the right thing charging her just $25. Consider it the cost of developing a new good customer. Bart - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: [CGUYS] What should one charge? I got a call today from a sometime client. A Mac user, fwiw. She couldn't get her computer to turn on, having had to force quit something yesterday. Since I couldn't understand her explanation of her difficulty, I arranged to go over and take a look at the machine. Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a shut down instead of a force quit yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the on switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the on switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine on? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Tom in this case you and I are both in agreement. TIVO could have the up to date info if it wanted. Stewart At 05:40 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it does not pick it up on Season Pass. Programming services that are used for Tivo Replay are almost never updated for last-minute programming changes. In the Internet Age we expect better. And we could get better. Because most stations broadcast ID information in the blanking interval, my HDTV has an info button that displays info about what I'm watching. This often includes the name of the program. A smart box could detect that the scheduled program was not being broadcast on schedule and could record it when it actually is broadcast. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
You need to reread the facts. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/04/25/qthack/index.php That's from macworld, not exactly in the pocket of MS. It was not a proof of concept it was an actual exploit of an actual bug in quicktime. Changing the rules meant the mac user would have to go to a website and click a link...that's IT. That's ALL. This type of hack is the same as most on windows. So a hack that attacks a mac in the SAME WAY as windows is making it easier? As stated in the article it was akin to the windows cursor flaw, click and your owned. Take your Apple specs off and stand back, get some perpsective, your constant windows bashing is taking a toll on your objectivity. Windows is now like a loaded gun, and after stating that you say that's not an exaggeration? Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. This is a terrible exaggeration. This was not an exploit, but a minimal proof of concept. The contest had run for days with no winner so they changed the rules to make it easier. Apple patched it a few days later. You seem to have a problem distinguishing between the real and the unreal. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
When was the last time this happened on a Mac? Apple has already patched the hole that was documented in very short order, as they usually do. Windows on the other hand.. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 3:09 PM, mike wrote: So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
This contest proved that a mac could be hacked easily...as soon as there was some motive to do so which was money. This has been the contention of many that the reasons macs aren't targeted is not because they are more secure but because there is no point, no money in it. If your job is to get as many machines on a botnet as possible why would you target such a minuscule audience? If you are interested in making money from spam, again why target an audience where there are nothing but empty seats in the theater? In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike On 5/8/07, Mason Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When was the last time this happened on a Mac? Apple has already patched the hole that was documented in very short order, as they usually do. Windows on the other hand.. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 3:09 PM, mike wrote: So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
People have been spreading this intellectual honesty for years, and still no mac exploits. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I admit it...you are right. Macworld lied...computerworld...dozens of news organizations lied. MS paid big for this one. I take it all back. Happiness is in your own little world unruffled and unfettered by things such as truth. Mike On 5/8/07, Mason Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People have been spreading this intellectual honesty for years, and still no mac exploits. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
On 5/8/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This contest proved that a mac could be hacked easily...as soon as there was some motive to do so which was money. No, it didn't. It did prove (which didn't need to be proven), that there are cross-operating system vulnerabilities. One of them is the widespread use of QuickTime. It also proved that in spite of offering money to hack OS X, no one could do it. Actually, most Windows exploits are not because of things like QuickTime or PDF vulnerabilities. I don't know if Vista has been checked, but a new XP SP 2 computer, connected directly to the Internet (no router, say a DSL modem or cable modem - as most ISPs want you to do, even now), will be hacked in a matter of minutes (usually around 10-20 minutes). A new, out-of-the-box Mac OS X computer in the same situation will not get hacked. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
This might not be the best newsgroup to answer this question, but here goes. I was asked to make a compilation of selected music from several CDs for a single new CD. (These were locally recorded, not copyrighted, and a single master CD was made of each performance.) So I used Exact Audio Copy, http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/, a program that professes to eliminate all sources of errors if possible in ripping a CD (with multiple error checks, including reading each audio sector on the CD at least twice and up to 50 times) and then converts to a WAV file stored on hard disk. From the WAV file I burn the compilation to a new CD with Nero. Listener says that copy has lower audio quality than the original, so he will have to hire a professional to do the same. Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
On 5/8/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admit it...you are right. Macworld lied...computerworld...dozens of news organizations lied. MS paid big for this one. I take it all back. MacWorld didn't lie. Nowhere in the article did it say there was any vulnerability in Mac OS X. Because no one found one. If there is a vulnerability in PHP, then anyone running PHP with their web server is vulnerable - Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. Same for QuickTime. And this probably will show those interested in going after Macs that apparently the only approach is to look for this kind of thing. And it is definitely potentially dangerous - or at least it was for a few days. Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
Generally they are current within weeks. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:44 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
It shouldn't. How does the cd sound to you? Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? Assuming your source is a 44.1 kHz sampling frequency Red Book CD and you were ripping to WAV format it should be an exact image in terms of the digital data. You haven't introduced any D/A or A/D conversions at this point. All you are doing is copying data. It would help if I knew what the recording equipment was, what the sampling frequency was, and what your listener is using as far as equipment. I warn you in advance that I'm not an expert but I have done a fair amount of this sort of thing. I'm not familiar with Exact Audio but I have used Nero. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
Remember - A job worth doing is worth getting paid for. On May 8, 2007, at 11:42 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 8, 2007 10:11:04 AM PDT Subject: Re: What should one charge? Thanks very much for the comments, everyone! What a thoughtful group! In real life, when not turning on computers, I repair/replace chair seats for customers. (Hence the e-mail name.) It took me many years, probably about 10 years in fact, to realize that I was giving away repairs which customers therefore did not appreciate. Once I started charging for repairs (broken wood frames, tightening rungs to keep the chairs from falling apart when used, etc.) these services became valuable. Some folks did their own repairs, which is/was a blessing as it means I can concentrate on what I enjoy, and others have me do their dirty work for them. But at least I get compensated now for the time it all takes. I take a similar approach to showing folks how to turn on their computers. It actually took me a few minutes to find the on switch on the eMac. It's pretty inconspicuous. The thing that threw me about my client, though, was that she really didn't realize that there was an on switch. The computer was just always turned on. Next time, though, I'll have to use E Riley Casey's pricing scheme. It certainly would have been more beneficial than my charge. :) Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donald G. from Joshua Tree. We like it here. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
This reminds me of when I set up my mom (who was in her mid 80s at the time) with a new eMac. I gave her a user account (I kept administrator privileges for myself) and told her that she couldn't break it. Within a week she called me to say I killed it! All she did was shut it down. I explained to her where the power button was and she had it up and running in no time. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a call today from a sometime client. A Mac user, fwiw. She couldn't get her computer to turn on, having had to force quit something yesterday. Since I couldn't understand her explanation of her difficulty, I arranged to go over and take a look at the machine. Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a shut down instead of a force quit yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the on switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the on switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine on? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
This reminds me of when I set up my mom (who was in her mid 80s at the time) with a new eMac. I gave her a user account (I kept administrator privileges for myself) and told her that she couldn't break it. Within a week she called me to say I killed it! All she did was shut it down. I explained to her where the power button was and she had it up and running in no time. That's odd, is this common? I gave my Mom (79) a new E6600 PC (my build) last Christmas. I also kept admin privileges. She called me and said it didn't work anymore. I asked if the power light was lit on the computer. Yes, she verified that. Then I asked if the power light was lit on the monitor. What had happened was that my brother had switched the monitor off. I explained where the monitor power switch (a black switch on a black fascia, not obvious, VP930b) was located. No problems after that, except that my brother pulled out the old Gateway that I had networked to the E6600 to act as a printer and removable drive server. Why he did that I'll never know, I had to kill him. Now I'll have to do a road trip to get the printer up and running. :-) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?
Mike, Sounds like a fairly easy way to do regular backups, though couldn't afford it at the moment. I'm stuck copying onto DVDS, which I tried, but didn't go so easily. Had more to back up than on DVD's worth and was hoping it would be like I remember copying onto floppys, where the copy would be continued onto the next floppy after being prompted. But unless I missed some option for this using XP backup utility, couldn't do this, so couldn't do the option of backing up all info on computer. Ended up doing a selective backup several times to whittle it down to what could fit on one DVD, then did some more on another. Certainly didn't seem like something that I would likely go through on a very regular basis! Guess I'll just muddle through with trying to remember to regularly back up especially important documents. Randall - Original Message - From: Michel Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up? Randall, I bought a Western Digital external (USB) hard drive, 250Gig. Newegg lists a Maxtor 500Gig external drive for $150. My WD came with an automatic backup utility that makes it bootable and even includes a scheduler. The timer pops every week on Wednesdays and I get a full backup during lunch. No muss, no fuss -- especially futzing around with media. The downside is like you say: if you have anything undesirable on your PC it will get backed up, too. Probably a good idea to clean the PC somewhat, do a full virus scan, run some of the spyware/malware checkers before your first backup. Good luck, -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up? Have only done very sporadic and partial data back ups in past, but after hearing yesterday's CG's show (mention of cost of data recovery!) and seeming increasing problems with computer's performance, decided it's high time (past time) to start backing up all those precious files regularly. However, not sure which of the options in the back up utility that came with computer to use. Tempted to use option to back everything on computer up for comprehensiveness and simplicity, but wonder if this might mean backing up some bad and nasty things which might harm the back up disk (plan to burn onto rewritable DVD, as don't have any other good back up options that I'm aware of). I definitely want to back up email as well, unless I can export it all to some other secure venue. There is an option to customize back up in order to select what to back up. I could do that if I knew I was going to back up everything important and it also might be nice not to back up a lot of unnecessary, space consuming files. Any suggestions? Should I just use the back up everything option? Thanks, Randall * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Why not build back up function into the computer?? (was back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?)
Tony, Sounds good, but I'd have to first learn what you are talking about and how to do it :) After reading your response and Mike's this thought occurred to me: Everyone who seems to know much about computers seems to advise that everyone regularly back up their computer. The same for running antivirus, spyware, adware and whatever else I'm leaving out or not aware of. Yet I believe I've heard the stat that only a fairly small minority of users (not speaking of businesses) actually back up regularly, not to mention doing the other important security things (spyware, etc.) The figure 20% of users doing regular back ups comes to mind, though not sure where I heard this or how accurate it is. Nevertheless, if regular backing up is something that everyone who owns and uses a computer should be doing, regardless of their technical expertise, why isn't backing up - the hardware and the software - a built in function of the computer itself? Or are there some computers that actually do this? I envision a modular set up with a back up drive that could easily be removed, which could also maybe make extra copies for separate storage at the same time onto DVDS, CDS. I also envision the back up function running automatically as a default (or as automatically as possible, say, every day at least) and that before each back up, built in anti-virus software, spyware, adware, whatever-else ware software would be run on the info to be backed up, so a clean backup would be likely. Maybe even some diagnostic exam to see if one is about to back up corrupted or damaged files, etc. If backing up or checking for spyware are important if not essential functions that should be performed regularly, they should be built in as part of the computer to the extent feasible, IMO. Is this asking too much or somehow unrealistic? It just seems to me that if something should be done as a regular part of using a computer, why not build it in and make it as easy and as automatic to use as possible, for all levels of users? So if someone wants, take my idea and go make millions on it; just remember me and send me a small royalty if you don't mind! I realize most PC makers don't usually also develop software for their computers, but maybe Apple could do this or maybe more PC makers could and should start producing an integrated, whole product. Could the fact that Apple develops both its software and its hardware be part of why it is generally considered a better product? Knowing little about the technical aspects of any of this, it intuitively seems like it designing an integrated product - hardware and software (including my back up module :)) - would more likely avoid glitches and produce a better product. Just wondering. I wonder if companies like Apple, Microsoft or PC developers ever hire novices or average users to give them feedback on what is needed or desirable in their products or if they basically only get the perspective and feedback of techies, programmers, and experienced users? From my perspective, computers and everything about them (still) seem unnecessarily complex and complicated, though admittedly this is based just on PCs. I do realize it is the American way to have endless choices and options for each of these things - ways of backing up, spyware, anti-virus, firewalls, adware, ISPS, email program, this program, that program, etc. However, for myself, and I suspect many, maybe most, average or novice users, all these choices simply add too much complexity, too many decisions, too many things to think about as far as whether they work with each other program or each piece of hardware, leading to the requirement of spending too much time and energy (mental and otherwise). Perhaps those who are much more knowledgeable about all of this like having so many options, but I think many users, myself included, would simply like a computer that works reliably, with as much of this stuff being pre-packaged and automated as possible. We would like it to be more like buying a new car, where what you need and want, as much as possible, comes with the car, not programs or hardware that you have to make decisions about and purchase subsequent to purchasing the car. The goal should be an integrated product and simplicity, not unnecessary fragmentation and thus unnecessary complexity. I also realize such complexity does create jobs for some who like and have mastered much of it, but I'm speaking as a simple user who wants to spend more time using the computer as a tool or a means than time, energy and money making sure this tool is working properly. Of course all tools need to maintained, but the maintenance shouldn't equal or exceed the utility of the tool in the first place! And, of course, we could say much the same thing for all the other ever-changing technological gadgets and gizmos that are out there and which are being constantly
Re: [CGUYS] Why not build back up function into the computer?? (was back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?)
Because it's way too much trouble. And in the Real World, it just wouldn't work. People that want to back up, will. I see clients all the time that are only interested in saving their digital photos. They learn how to burn DVDs and they're done. They use webmail so they have little if anything else to actually back up. Use Google Docs (or similar) and you too won't even have to back up your important documents. why isn't backing up - the hardware and the software - a built in function of the computer itself? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
