Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 May 2007 to 22 May 2007 (#2007-405)
A Mac Pro will run Windows XP, but you have to provide the Windows XP from disc. 1 GB will be fine for most 95% of what is done on a Mac. 2GB or more is recommended if you are running pro apps such as Aperture, Shake, or Motion. After Effects or Photoshop will gobble up as much memory as you throw at them. For Microsoft Office, the iLife or iWork apps, email, web browsers, and daily apps, 1GB works fine. Video editing on a desktop PC when you have a Macbook Pro? That's... just wrong. ;) Rocky ** Date:Tue, 22 May 2007 19:42:17 -0400 From:Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Comparing Mac and PC laptops About 6 weeks ago, I asked this listserv about a laptop for my daughter in college, now a junior. She didn't know whether to get a Mac or a PC laptop, and her friends were giving her dubious advice. Thanks to all who responded -- I copied each response and emailed them to her as well as the recent Consumer Reports article. Finally yesterday she made her decision: to get a MacBook Pro, and she says she loves it. She told me that the Mac seemed to be for people who didn't know anything about computers such as herself. (I have no opinion since I've never owned any laptop.) At this point, I don't know whether she got an extended warranty, how much SDRAM she got, nor what software came with the laptop. She bought it at a Mac store in Boston, MA. In case she bought 1 GB of memory, how beneficial would increasing to 2 GB be? She says that she intends to use the laptop for everything pertaining to her study (stage management with a minor in television journalism), and to use her desktop PC for her hobbies, which include video editing but not gaming. The PC was built locally to my specifications. Also, does the MacBook Pro come with an emulation program for Windows? If not, what is recommended (we have CDs with Windows ME, XP Home, 2000, and XP Pro available to install if needed). Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
On 5/22/07, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would something like the following work? Specify drive 1 (via the BIOS) as the boot drive, have the MBR created there and set up GRUB to boot Ubuntu off drive 1 and Windows off drive 0. If drive 0 is respecified as the boot drive, then it just boots Windows. So you have Windows on HD0 and Linux on HD1, and you change the boot disk in the BIOS every time you want to run the other OS. I would find this annoying, but, yeah, it might work. The most likely reason I can think of for this not to work is that Windows may not like being booted this way. As long as you don't move the HD with the original Windows installation, it shouldn't complain. Any chance of success? I have no intention of changing the boot disk in the BIOS every time I want to switch OS. The idea is to make the new drive (hd1) the boot disk, and have GRUB set up (on that disk) to load Windows from its current home on hd0. The idea was that if hd1 were to fail, Windows would still work if the boot disk were to be switched back to hd0. But I'm not planning for either drive to fail. Likewise, if hd0 were to fail, it should be easy to recover (although I'm not certain what steps would be required, but since we would then be dealing with Linux, I'm assuming more options would exist). Vicky, does this change your answer now that I have clarified my proposal? BTW, I am not a complete newbie. I have prior experience setting up dual boot configurations combining Windows and Linux on the same system, but always by partitioning a single hard drive. I have used both Partition Magic and Disk Druid (or whatever the Mandrake equivalent was called) for partitioning, and I have used both GRUB and Boot Magic as a boot manager. Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops
I copied each response and emailed them to her as well as the recent Consumer Reports article. Consumer Reports writers love to bad mouth the Mac. You have to dig into their charts to see that it is consistently top rated in virtually every category. The stats say one thing, the editorial copy says another. An untrustworthy source. Finally yesterday she made her decision: to get a MacBook Pro, and she says she loves it. She told me that the Mac seemed to be for people who didn't know anything about computers such as herself. (I have no opinion since I've never owned any laptop.) Also for people who know a lot about computers and know that computers don't have to be born defective. At this point, I don't know whether she got an extended warranty, how much SDRAM she got, nor what software came with the laptop. She bought it at a Mac store in Boston, MA. In case she bought 1 GB of memory, how beneficial would increasing to 2 GB be? The MacBook comes with a reasonable amount of RAM. Apple is not cutting corners. You should not have to add anything to a current model MacBook Pro. She says that she intends to use the laptop for everything pertaining to her study (stage management with a minor in television journalism), and to use her desktop PC for her hobbies, which include video editing but not gaming. The PC was built locally to my specifications. The MacBook comes with iMovie which is a great way to get started with video editing. As her needs grow she can buy FinalCut Express or maybe the professional (expensive) FinalCut lineup. Using a PC for video editing is a bad move. iMovie is surprising powerful. GarageBand is a great audio editor. iDVD is impressive too. All the iLife stuff comes with the Mac. Also, does the MacBook Pro come with an emulation program for Windows? If not, what is recommended (we have CDs with Windows ME, XP Home, 2000, and XP Pro available to install if needed). Stay away from this. Windows emulation is for hackers and those into pain. And you say she already has a PC so why bother? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Google desktop
Google Desktop has been a problem. Soon after installation, Google Desktop use up to 99% of my CPU for searching the same file for a day or more: a graphics file. Can you restrict what Google Desktop indexes to a particular set of files or set of directories? I know I can with Apple Spotlight. Maybe Google does this too? Google can do advanced searches, but it's very cumbersome and annoying. The results are messy. I hate Spotlight because its defaults are stupid. I use the Find command in the Finder. I still need to select the parameters, and that's a pain. I'm looking for a way to set the defaults to find by name. I've usually been able to find just about anything by name and often by date. Including related file types with names that have nothing to do with what I want before I choose that parameter is just a PITA. Can I take the old Find app from 10.3 and make it work in 10.4? It could find anything better, faster than Spotlight, et al. With Find you have to turn on the extra features instead of turning them off. Worse, yet, I can't search for anything inside the system folder without first using Safari to reveal the invisible folders. None of the searches, least of all Google Desktop can find things well. And you have to search through the excess results to find what you were trying to find in the first place! I hate to be relegated to using the Terminal when a good GUI should be available. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
At 08:56 AM 5/23/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no intention of changing the boot disk in the BIOS every time I want to switch OS. The motherboards that I have that are less than about four years old (all ASUS) all have an option to press a keystroke during POST and pop up a menu to select the boot device (for this startup only). (It does not involve entering BIOS setup and changing the default boot device.) The feature is not obvious; I had to stumble on it to realize it was there. Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OS 9 Emulator on Intel?
Michael, Thanks for the ROM to get Sheep Saver to run (OS 9 emulator). I appear to have one more step, and the info might (stress might) by useful to newbie mac users like me. I am supposed to supply a OS9 CD. I download a 9.2 update image from apple.com archive. I assume this is what I need. Any advice on how to burn the CD on my OSXintel MacMini. TIA -Paul Meyer * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
This is the setup that I had. Windows really prefers no extra bootloader files on its drive, so setup up drive 1 as the MBR is the way to go. It is not at all an annoying way to switch drive once working properly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/21/07, Michael Fernando wrote: 2) If you only want to try out Linux, you can completely remove the Windows drive and replace that with your spare drive. Install Linux and test/break that installation as you wish and your Windows disk is safe sitting on the shelf. Would something like the following work? Specify drive 1 (via the BIOS) as the boot drive, have the MBR created there and set up GRUB to boot Ubuntu off drive 1 and Windows off drive 0. If drive 0 is respecified as the boot drive, then it just boots Windows. The most likely reason I can think of for this not to work is that Windows may not like being booted this way. Any chance of success? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Google desktop
Can I take the old Find app from 10.3 and make it work in 10.4? It could find anything better, faster than Spotlight, et al. With Find you have to turn on the extra features instead of turning them off. Worse, yet, I can't search for anything inside the system folder without first using Safari to reveal the invisible folders. Have you tried EasyFind? www.devon-technologies.com/products/freeware * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] the Myth of TiVo [was Re: DVD-RW]
Or when family moves into TV room and starts holding a discussion and you have hearing problems. :-) A frequent occurrence. Stewart At 12:37 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: If TV is not your thing, don't TIVO. If there are shows that you like so much that you want to watch every week as soon as they come on, DVR's are liberating. We actually spend less time in front of the TV than without a DVR (comcast's fyi) because we watch on our schedule. Buffering is really a great convenience if you can't understand what someone is saying, if a phone call interrupts your viewing. Unless you never want to watch live-broadcast again, buffering is just a much better way to watch TV. I can't wait until the same technology shows up in radio - especially car radio, I will never miss the DJ's announcement of a song title again (curse you, WPFW!) Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] the Myth of TiVo [was Re: DVD-RW]
The surest sign of downward regress is a civilization that's too damn lazy to look things up and keep track of them. Mourning the passage of the buggy whip? I can't think of a better task for a computer than to keep a list of all my wishes and to make sure they are carried out. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Google desktop
Have you tried EasyFind? www.devon-technologies.com/products/freeware Don't like it. Slow. Not enough choices. None of them could find the chocolate chip cookie recipe in the system. Of course. This is not a good tool for searching file contents as it does not index files beforehand. It is great for the purpose we were discussing: finding file names. Like you should not use a screwdriver to drive in nails. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] the Myth of TiVo [was Re: DVD-RW]
The surest sign of downward regress is a civilization that's too damn lazy to look things up and keep track of them. Mourning the passage of the buggy whip? Nope. Tired of looking at so many grossly obese Americans. H. Buggy whip. Kinky. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops
Also, does the MacBook Pro come with an emulation program for Windows? If not, what is recommended (we have CDs with Windows ME, XP Home, 2000, and XP Pro available to install if needed). After a short time, she'll realize that she won't need to use Windows programs. Until then, there's http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/, http://www.maconintel.com/news.php?article=119, based on Wine, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29, which runs Windows programs without installing Windows. All of the programs she needs should be available for Mac OS X. If there's one she can't find, just ask. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] the Myth of TiVo [was Re: DVD-RW]
No we are just pleasantly Plump. And I love my DTiVOs all three of them. If we have these gosh darn computer things we should use them by gum. On 5/23/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The surest sign of downward regress is a civilization that's too damn lazy to look things up and keep track of them. Mourning the passage of the buggy whip? Nope. Tired of looking at so many grossly obese Americans. H. Buggy whip. Kinky. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
