[CTRL] Military Jams East Coast GPS; NSA's Bomb-Me chip

1999-02-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CharlesSmith)
 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999
 Subj: Military Jams East Coast GPS


 GPS BLACKOUT ON U.S. EAST COAST
 The FAA, Washington, D.C.

 The U.S. is staging a multinational military exercise that will
 black out GPS signals starting the week of Feb. 22.  The Global
 positioning signals from U.S. satellites will be jammed up to
 6 hours during night military operations from Jacksonville,
 Florida to Newark New Jersey.

 The FAA has notified commercial and private pilots of the
 outages.  However, the agency did not say how long the GPS
 jamming will be in effect or what areas they will cover.


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 TRACK ME - BOMB ME
 Silicon Valley, California

 Microchip Technologies Inc. has developed a R/F identification
 chip which costs 30 to 35 cents in quantities of 10,000.  The
 new low cost RF chip emits a 154 bit code when illuminated with
 a 13.56 MHz signal.  The chip is intended to locate packages,
 and airline baggage.

 However, the same R/F signaling features can be abused to
 secretly track U.S. citizens.  The R/F chip could be included
 inside autos or placed in electronic items such cellular phones,
 and computers.

 One source noted the chip R/F generators can be made powerful
 enough to disable the electronic ignition in a car or ruin the
 computer in which it is installed.  The intention is to provide
 law enforcement with the ability to remotely disable vehicles,
 computers or handguns made with advanced electronic safety
 mechanisms.  One such gun, called the "smart gun", was
 demonstrated by the Federal Government.

 During the Gulf war, U.S. forces were able to locate Iraqi
 command posts because of a similar R/F emitter chip secretly
 deployed by the NSA.  The so called "bomb-me" chip was installed
 in printers sold to Iraqi air defense units.  The chip emitted a
 coded radio signal in the Gigahertz range whenever the printer
 was in use.  During the war, USAF R/F intelligence aircraft were
 able to pin-point the faint signals from the "bomb-me" chips and
 pass on the printer locations to F-117A Stealth bombers.


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[CTRL] VANGUARD: The Culture War Begins in Earnest

1999-02-25 Thread Mike Moxley

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Subject: VANGUARD:  The Culture War Begins in Earnest
Vanguard of the Revolution
National Edition

By Syndicated Columnist and Commentator
Rod D. Martin http://www.theVanguard.org


THE CULTURE WAR BEGINS IN EARNEST
by
Rod D. Martin, 21 February 1999



The bad news is that the battle lines are now clearly drawn.  The
good news is that the battle lines are now clearly drawn.

The Senate's resounding affirmation of our felon-President brings
us to a new chapter in American history.  There are no two ways
about it; on this point one cannot be over-dramatic.  The Rubicon
has been crossed.  The only remaining question is how we welcome
Caesar once he arrives.

Now this is not to say that Bill Clinton is Caesar; not at all.
It is not to say that he seeks to establish a dictatorship or
anything of the sort.

It is simply to say that, now that an actual majority of our
leaders, including every Senator of the minority party, are
willing to trade the Rule of Law for craven political advantage,
and now that the media elites and those among the people who
follow them are content to abet such debasement, the Republic is
at the mercy of any ambitious man who happens along.

Can anyone realistically doubt this?  Property taxes already make
us serfs in our own homes.  Income taxes already require more of
our produce than did feudal levies.  The number of armed federal
police agencies grows seemingly by the day, while the number of
federal and state gun control laws increases at a similar pace.
Every day more power accrues to Washington, and the only thing
holding back tyranny is the benevolence of the rulers we select.

Assume the best of Clinton:  can you trust the next President --
can you trust every imaginable future President -- to be so
benevolent, now that it is clear a high approval rating allows
every crime to go unpunished, perhaps even unreported?

This is now the witching hour.  The acquittal is a benchmark, the
point at which men supposedly of honor finally, irrevocably
abandoned their oaths.  That benchmark is the defining moment of
the new American reality:  from that point forward, one either
stands openly for justice and for liberty, or openly for
privilege and dishonor.

Yet despite everything, it is precisely this which ought give us
hope, hope for lasting renewal.  Ever since America's "Cultural
Revolution" in the sixties, men like Bill Clinton, women like
Patty Ireland, have masked their disease of dishonor and
depravity behind high-sounding rhetoric they can no longer
credibly maintain.  They brought us socialism in the name of
compassion, political correctness in the name of free speech,
censorship of religion in the name of the First Amendment.  They
taught men and women to abuse each other in the name of
liberation, and minorities to be dependent in the name of
"Affirmative Action".  They made the schools into union
playgrounds in the name of higher-order thinking, and murder into
an industry in the name of a woman's "choice".

And as their selfish promiscuity spread like their herpes, they
destroyed half our families, compromised our churches, ruined our
schools, tainted our media, corrupted our universities, burned
down our inner-cities, addicted our children, and withered
everything they touched.  And everything they did, they did in
the name of some higher cause, and millions followed them down to
destruction.

Yet now the façade is gone.  The Alec Baldwins have spoken,
saying as he did on Conan O'Brian in December that they prefer an
America in which the children of political opponents are dragged
from their houses and killed.  The Patty Irelands have spoken,
saying that sexual harassment doesn't matter if the criminal is a
Democrat.  The Robert Byrds have spoken, saying that Democratic
felonies are maddening, but not impeachable.  The network news
bureaus have spoken, saying that a Matt Drudge -- with a
near-perfect accuracy rate -- is not credible, but that Larry
Flynt, First Pornographer, is.  They have all taken their
stand.  They are all out in the open.  Every one.

And standing opposed to them, a small army, from James Dobson to
Asa Hutchinson, are on the record for truth and justice and the
integrity of the Republic.

Appropriately enough in A Tale of Two Cities, Dickens wrote "It
was the best of times, it was the worst of times."  So it is
today.  We will save our nation by knowing who we are, by
standing on principle, by endlessly drawing the contrast with our
opponents, and by submitting ourselves to the God who gave us our
nation in the first place.  Apart from that, our nation will be
lost.  The hour of truth is here, the task is daunting, and the
margin for error is nil.  And yet for all of that, we rendezvous
today with destiny, as we yet again commit ourselves to seeing
"that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom;
and that government of the people, by the people, for the people
shall not perish from the earth."

What a time to be alive.

Re: [CTRL] Underground Facilities, TBM's* and Information *(Tunnel Boaring Machines)

1999-02-25 Thread Steve Wingate

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On 25 Feb 99, at 0:24, Joe Heeger, Jr. wrote:

http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jheeger/gunmen.html

 The large TBM's are still down there somewhere. They said it would
 cost to much to bring them up. Makes you wonder if they are still using
 them?

Definetly. I have to wonder if the SSCL was just a cover for a more large-
scale, and neferious program.

George Bush now has both Texas (Mexican heroin) and Miami (Columbian
cocaine) covered. And plenty of tunnels to connect this. No need for Mena,
etc. This is High Tech.

They sometimes forget about COM-12 though.  ;^)

Steve
(Not affiliated with the US Government, or any other planetary entity)


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES
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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread SHAYSA

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No truer words have been written. The SIN TAX is the life blood of these
servants of the people.
  Back in early January, the San Jose Mercury News had an article on this
subject and in this article they mentioned one of the Indian Resverations (I
can't remember if it was Idaho, Montana, Dakotas, ), were still and would
continue to sell cigs at $18.50 per carton and would ship to California, etc,
without any additional taxes!

   Anybody ==Need web site for Indian Reservations???

   REPLY SOON==Carton in Calif is $33.55

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Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta Apologise

1999-02-25 Thread Source - Richard

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This is just getting nasty.
Andrew - prove it and then we will discuss. J2 listen, make-up your mind up about 
Andrew then shut up.

nurev wrote:
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Andrew Hennessey wrote:

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 If someone puts out a story like Andrew's, he should be able to defend
 it against the skepticism it deserves.
 
 Lying is an attack upon the perceptions of the person being lied to.
 It does psychological damage by causing one to lose one's confidence
 in one's ability to judge reality. Any lie should be shown up and
 counter attacked.

 Skepticism is a science - there are at least half a dozen forms of
 skeptical argument within the Philosophy of Science and epistemology.
 Insane ? yes the story is Fng insane - its sad that its the truth.
 I don't want to rock your version of reality - that is not my right.
 I apologise if I have disturbed you -

 best wishes,

 Andrew Hennessey

It's OK Andrew you didn't exactly shake the foundations of
my universe.

J2

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[CTRL] Top 100

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0224-101.htm


Top 100 Events Chosen for Newseum Stories of the Century
U.S. Newswire
24 Feb 03:00

Top 100 News Events Chosen for Newseum Stories of the Century
To: National Desk, Media Writer
Contact: Beth Tuttle of the Newseum, 703-284-3722

ARLINGTON, Va., Feb. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The United
States' dropping of atomic bombs on Japan in 1945 that accelerated
an end to World War II was voted the most significant news event
of the last 100 years by a national panel of veteran journalists
participating in the Newseum "Stories of the Century."

The U.S. bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which led to the
surrender of Japan, finished first among reporters, editors,
broadcasters, photographers, editorial cartoonists, and historians
participating in the balloting. Neil Armstrong's walk on the moon in
1969 was a close second. The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in
1941, which drew the United States into the same war, finished a
strong third.

"This fascinating list shows that news is not a science. It comes
from decisions made by people and reflects a daily collision of
journalistic values and backgrounds," said Charles L. Overby,
chairman and chief executive officer of The Freedom Forum. "This
close vote shows that debate is still alive in America's newsrooms."

The White House sex scandal, which dominated headlines and
newscasts for the last year, barely registered a ripple, finishing
53rd in the balloting. Respondents gave much higher priority to
historic achievements such as the discovery of penicillin in 1928,
Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, and the discovery of DNA
structure. The Beatles, test-tube baby Louise and the cloned sheep
Dolly made the list. But O.J. Simpson, Princess Diana and Mark
McGwire failed to make the cut. Only two of the top 50 stories
occurred in the 1990's -the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and
the end of apartheid in South Africa in 1993.

Events related to conflict dominated much of the balloting -- from
World War I to the Russian Revolution to the Nazi death camps in
World War II. But the finer moments of the 20th century did not go
unrecognized -- the Wright brothers' first powered airplane in 1903
and women winning the vote in 1920 finished fourth and fifth
respectively. The 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education court decision
that ended the illusion of "separate but equal" segregated education
was ranked ninth.

The journalists and scholars disagreed on the top of the list as
well as the bottom. Ben Bradlee of The Washington Post and columnist
Carl Rowan picked Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor as the century's
No. 1 news event. Historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and Univision's
Maria Elena Salinas opted for man's first walk on the moon. CNN's
Judy Woodruff agreed with the most popular choice -- the atomic
bombing of Japan as most significant news story.

"News judgment is not an exact science. This vote shows that even
with decades of hindsight the enormity of a news event remains
difficult to judge," said Joe Urschel, executive director of the
Newseum.

In all, 67 professionals voted in a two-round selection process
that narrowed the list from 500 events to the top 100. Voters
included leaders from the Associated Press, the Radio and Television
News Directors Association, the Associated Press Managing Editors, as
well as Schlesinger, a noted historian.

The list of 100 events will be used as a ballot for public voting
in the "Newseum Stories of the Century -- The Nation Votes" project.
Ballots will be available at the Newseum, the world's only
interactive museum of news, in Arlington, Va. Votes can be cast
electronically at the Newseum's website, www.newseum.org/century. To
receive a ballot, write Century Vote, Newseum, 1101 Wilson Blvd.,
Arlington Va., 22209.

The nation's vote for Newseum Stories of the Century will be
released at year's end and compared and contrasted with the
journalists' selections.

The project is the latest in an ongoing series by the Newseum and
its parent foundation, The Freedom Forum, to help the news media and
public understand each other better.
--
Newseum Stories Of The Century
Not For Publication Before Wednesday, Feb. 24

Rank Date Event
1 1945 U.S. drops atomic bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki: Japan surrenders to
end World War II
2 1969 American astronaut Neil Armstrong becomes the first human to walk on
the moon
3 1941 Japan bombs Pearl Harbor: U.S. enters World War II
4 1903 Wilbur and Orville Wright fly the first powered airplane
5 1920 Women win the vote
6 1963 President John F. Kennedy assassinated in Dallas
7 1945 Horrors of Nazi Holocaust, concentration camps exposed
8 1914 World War I begins in Europe
9 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education ends "separate but equal" school
segregation
10 1929 U.S. stock market crashes: The Great Depression sets in
11 1928 Alexander Fleming discovers the first antibiotic, penicillin
12 1953 Structure of DNA discovered
13 

[CTRL] Balking Teens

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Christian Science Monitor

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1999


Why teens balk at joining military

Dave Moniz
Special to The Christian Science Monitor

COLUMBIA, S.C.

Inside the halls of Spring Valley High School, Trey Sims sums up why many
of today's youths don't want to join the military: It's the authority
thing. "They don't like to be told what to do," the high school junior
says. "They want to be more independent, do stuff themselves."

Other students waiting for appointments with a guidance counselor echo
those sentiments. Senior Francisca Ladd, who plans to enlist in the Army,
says that "most teenagers don't want to commit to anything." Senior Jim
Wines, the son of a drill sergeant, gives the alarm-clock argument: "They
don't like getting up early."

Across the United States - and even in the deeply patriotic South - the
armed forces are losing their luster as a career option for many of
America's youths.

The falloff in new recruits is presenting the military with one of the
biggest manpower problems in 25 years. Behind the dearth is a tale of the
changing priorities of so-called "Generation Y," a booming peace-time
economy, and a distancing of young Americans from the Armed Forces.

Though Spring Valley is only about five miles from Fort Jackson, the Army's
biggest basic training site, it might as well be in another time zone.

"I'm not having nearly as many kids ask me about the military as an
option," says Phil Grubbs, Spring Valley's director of guidance and a
lieutenant colonel in the Army National Guard.

PictureTHE FEWER, THE PROUD: US teens aren't interested in a career in
the military, leaving the services desperate for recruits. Above, a Marine
cleans his M-16 during basic training at Parris Island, S.C.
(MELANIE STETSON FREEMAN - STAFF)



Teenagers and young adults are "not interested in politics or political
affairs, not interested in what's going on in the larger world, and
surprisingly open to alternative lifestyles," says John Scott Wilson, a
history professor and popular culture authority at the University of South
Carolina.

That does not necessarily mean today's youth are less patriotic or
civic-minded, Wilson says. The military is simply not at the top of their
career interests.

The numbers tell the story: Last year, the Navy missed its year-end
recruiting goal by nearly 7,000.



The hard numbers



This year, the Army is estimating it could fall short of its yearly goal by
6,000 to 10,000. And the Air Force, which seldom has to scramble to fill
its ranks, will begin airing paid TV ads for the first time ever next
month.

Among the services, only the smaller, elite Marine Corps isn't struggling
on the recruiting trail. Everywhere else, the numbers are troubling for
Pentagon brass.

When you factor in the increased attrition of soldiers who don't complete
their first enlistment - in the Army the number hit 40 percent last year -
it's become clear that the services are not connecting with large segments
of American youth.

"We're going to have to have some kind of paradigm shift to keep the
military an attractive option," says Donna Shealy, guidance coordinator for
a Columbia school district.

"In the past, the military has been a wonderful avenue for young folks to
have an equal playing field, no matter their status or background," she
says. "Students aren't feeling that because the economy is so good and
diversity is more accepted."

The economy is indeed a factor. Last year, when national unemployment
dipped below 4.5 percent, it marked an unprecedented threat to the nation's
25-year-old all-volunteer force.

A host of skilled mid-career non-commissioned officers, from jet mechanics
to computer operators, began fleeing the Air Force and Navy for the private
sector. In some cases, those leaving are able to double or triple their
salaries.

While the Pentagon is moving to boost military pay, restore retirement
benefits, and increase college funding and the GI Bill, it's clear that the
personnel troubles aren't related solely to money and benefits.

PictureTOO HARD: Many teens say the hard work makes the military
unappealing. Here Chief MSgt. Perry Langston leads an ROTC class at Spring
Valley High School.
(JASON CLARK/THE STATE)



Among the other reasons cited for recruiting woes include fewer numbers of
young people, a world without a daunting threat like the Soviet Union, and
the new realism portrayed in war movies such as "Saving Private Ryan" and
"The Thin Red Line."

Movies like these could not be farther removed from the 1980s movie "Top
Gun," which glamorized military service like no film this decade.

"I wonder how much of an impact those movies have had," Colonel Grubbs
says. "I talked to young folks who saw 'Saving Private Ryan' and they said,
'Gee, we never thought war was like that.'" Military 

[CTRL] Kurds: Who Why Important

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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SubjectKurds Background
DateWednesday, February 24, 1999 5:14 PM

Note On the surface, there may not seem to be any  relationship to
'conspiracy' or political intrigue as far as the Kurds, Turkey, Syria,
Iran, Iraq and all the others are concerned.  But, if one looks at the site
from which this article was borrowed, about half the way down is a map
{PictureMap showing  territory inhabited by Kurds} that shows an
extensive area of Kurdish inhabitation.  This area is that through which an
anticipated pipeline for Caspian oil-black gold-Texas 'T'
will/might/should/could flow.  Now, our friends at several many oil
companies (could/might/should) have an eye on this and the Iraqi problems
when considering investment and exploration options.  "A 'senior American
official' -- undoubtedly Secretary of State Baker -- told the New York
Times Saturday early August 1990, '" The response of the West will not
be driven by the Saudis alone.  We are talking about oil.  Got it? Oil,
vital American interests.  There is no way we will let the Saudis go down
the tubes."' " [from Desert Slaughter]  AER 


From slate.com / The Gist 09-26-96

The Kurds

By David Plotz
(1,105 words; posted Thursday, Sept. 26; to be composted Thursday, Oct.
3)

   Early this month, the United States bombed Iraq in retaliation for
Saddam Hussein's invasion of the Kurdish city Irbil. Who are the Kurds, and
why do they feature so often in news stories from the Middle East?
   There are between 20 million and 25 million Kurds--one of the
largest ethnic groups in the world without its own state. Almost the entire
Kurdish population lives in a mountainous area that covers eastern Turkey,
northern Iraq, and northwestern Iran, as well as slivers of Syria, Armenia,
and Azerbaijan. The Kurds, descendants of Indo-European nomads, call this
region Kurdistan, and have lived there at least 2,000 years.
   Although the Kurds consider themselves a nation, they share neither
a common language nor a common religion. Kurdish consists of several
mutually unintelligible dialects, linguistic relatives of Persian, the
language of Iran. The vast majority of Kurds are Sunni Muslims, but there
are also Shiites, Christians, Zoroastrians, Jews, and others.
   The Kurds have spent most of the last two millennia fighting
against, or allying with, the Arabs, the Persians, and the Turks. They
joined the Muslim crusades (Saladin, the 12th-century Muslim hero who
recaptured Jerusalem, was a Kurd). They have ruled their own mountain
kingdoms at various points in history. More recently, they were subjects of
both the Persian and Ottoman empires.
Picture

PictureThe history of the Kurds in the 20th century has been one of
almost constant warfare and disappointment, as they have sought
autonomy--with little success--in each of their three principal homelands.
The Kurds of what is now Turkey were promised a state after World War I,
but Kemal Atatürk annexed them. With Soviet help, Iranian Kurds founded a
state called Mahabad in 1946, but the Shah crushed it less than a year
later. Iraqi Kurds have been warring for autonomy since the 1930s. Today,
separatist movements continue in all three countries.
PictureMap showing  territory inhabited by Kurds
   IraqKurds number about 4 million, approximately 15 percent of the
Iraqi population. The recent Kurdish unrest is rooted in 60 years of
rebellion, betrayal, and defeat. Between the early 1930s and 1975, Mulla
Mustafa Barzani repeatedly warred against Iraqi authorities. He and his
Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) controlled much of northern Iraq at several
points, and the Iraqi government even granted the Kurds some autonomy in
1970. That arrangement soured, and in 1974, Barzani again took up arms
against Iraq, this time backed by Iran, the United States, and Israel. But
Iran signed a peace accord with Iraq in 1975 and immediately abandoned the
KDP. So did the United States and Israel. Iraq smashed the Kurdish
uprising. Barzani left for the United States, where he died in 1979. The
Iraqi Kurds split into factionsBarzani's son Moussad took over the
clannish, conservative KDP; Jalal Talabani founded the urban, vaguely
leftist Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK).
   The Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s revived the Kurds. The PUK and KDP
made common cause with Iran. In 1988, Saddam Hussein savaged the Kurds. His
troops razed hundreds of Kurdish villages, massacred thousands of Kurdish
fighters and civilians, and forcibly relocated many more to southern Iraq.
A poison-gas attack on the town of Halabja killed as many as 7,000 Kurds.
About 100,000 Kurdish refugees fled to Iran and Turkey.
PicturePictureThree years later, after the Gulf War, the Kurds rose
again at the urging of the United States and its partners in the
anti-Saddam alliance. But Hussein stomped them. The allies intervened only
when nearly 2 million Kurdish refugees surged toward the Turkish and
Iranian borders. The United States, France, Britain, 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Mysterious epidemic investigated in Afghanista]

1999-02-25 Thread Sno0wl

 -Caveat Lector-

I have just been through a "mysterious" flu-like seige with one my dogs. She is pretty
tiny and I almost lost her. She was so congested, she couldn't eat, yet the vet said 
her
lungs were "clear." My vet was almost no help at all. None of the medications or
antibiotics he gave me produced any improvement. She has recovered--although her
recovery has taken almost a full month. What works on her will also work on people. I
started getting "it" myself, and what follows stopped it.

1. Colloidal Silver--a pretty miraculous antibacterial, antiviral colloid that you can 
buy in
the health food store or make at home for yourself. (You should be able to purchase
this for about $15 for 4 oz. or you can contact me for directions how to make it
yourself.)

2. Sambucol--an elderberry extract which is near miraculous in dealing with flu and
most particularly with the kind of congestion that produces coughing. This, too, can be
bought at the health food store. There are probably other brands of elderberry extract
but the only one I've used  is Sambucol. ($9-12)

3. Pulsatilla Nig. 30C--a homeopathic remedy which stops the production of the mucus
that causes all the congestion. ($4) This looks like nothing at all but for us the 
results
were very dramatic.

4. Megadoses of Vitamins C, B Complex, B12, E, and Zinc

Last night, my second dog's nose started pouring clear liquid and my own nasal
passages were completely congested. I had started coughing, too. Gave us both
Pulsatilla and Colloidal Silver. I took Sambucol (don't know if elderberry is safe for
dogs). Within 15 minutes, my dogs nose had stopped running. This morning, the
symptoms are gone. Will keep giving ( and taking) these things for a few days to make
sure they don't return.

I can't say there's any connection, but we did have contrails here over the past few
days. Criscrossed, too.  :))

Hope this helps.

Sno0wl

On 24 Feb 99, , Robert wrote:

 FWIW, according to the *Berliner Kurier* (2/20/99), roughly 20,000
 Berliners have fallen victim to a vicious flu-like disease, which
 manifests as severe bronchitis in children and upper respiratory infection
 in adults, with high fever, malaise, and muscle aches in all age groups.
 Numerous schools and kindergartens have had to close because everyone,
 kids and teachers, is sick, and an increasing number of businesses are
 being affected as well. Now, it has to be said that Europe is in the grip
 of one of the worst winters of the century...but you still have to wonder
 where all of these mysterious respiratory diseases are coming from as I
 sit here hacking my lungs out..



sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] IMF manager says worst of world financial crisis is over

1999-02-25 Thread Danny Cox

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You wrote:

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IMF manager says worst of world financial crisis is over

NEW YORK (February 24, 1999 10:17 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com)
-
International Monetary Fund managing director Michel Camdessus on
Wednesday
declared that the worst of the world financial crisis is over. He also
insisted that globalization is here to stay.


The IMF has been making these optimistic statements for quite some
time. It was just a few months ago that they devised a plan to prevent
a recession in South America. That plan has obviously failed. Now most
of South America is in recession and it appears that a recession may be
beginning in the UK and Germany.

Regards,
Danny

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[CTRL] Could Noah's flood return? #1

1999-02-25 Thread 1lls0081

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Considering that some believe that there is a surplus of people on the earth and
it "seems" that they are tying up the patent office to keep new inventions off
the market that might help us with recycling and ect.  I have a question to ask!

If there were a galactic stock market - what would we trade?  Why would stock in
the earth be worth while?  Diamonds and gold are universal items.  The only
unique item the earth has is it's diversity of plants, animals, thoughts,
cultures, people.

There are some that are attempting global control, global monopolies.  They want
to control our food supply by taking away our diversity of plants, to control
people by genocide.  Could it be that in actual fact some of these technologies
can be done without all the apparatus that they currently use, that they were
done before?  That stock in Planet Earth went to an all time low before and so
someone decided to start the experiment from the beginning?  That they got rid
of people like Bush, Clinton, Gore - so on and reseeded the Earth?  It is not
the Apocalypse the we may be worrying about.

When a companies stock hits a all time low it is capable of being sold at a
cheep price.  What if the next people to buy into Earth decide to use it as a
natural food supply?  Cloning or Replicating has to be common, so how much is
natural food worth.  Considering all the chemicals, ect in the enviroment that
retard brain development - they will not have to worry about eating a thinking
being.

Or they might just clean up the enviroment - that would include cleaning up the
way of thinking, this current mind set.

 Will be continuing this line of thought, after finals!

Laura
aka The Pied Piper

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[CTRL] Reptilian Conspiracies - 2/4

1999-02-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 COSCON FILE #10

 The Fall, 1989 issue of 'WORLD WATCHERS INTERNATIONAL' published a
 letter from 'M.C.' of Canoga Park, California, which alleged the
 following:

 "The intercerebral implants in the heads of many (UFO) abductees
 correspond surprisingly well with a description of a device known
 as the 'stimoceiver' invented in the late '50s by neuroscientist
 Jose Delgado.  A miniature depth electrode which can receive and
 transmit electronic signals over FM radio waves.  With a positioned
 stimoceiver, an outside operator can wield a surprising degree of
 control over the subject's response.  It can be attached to the
 tympanic membrane, transforming the ear into a sort of microphone,
 and I assume, a loudspeaker.  Stanford Research Institute
 discovered that sub-vocalized words form recognizable EEG patterns,
 which can be read by computer.

 "A technique called RHIC-EDOM (Radio Hypnotic Intracerebral -
 Electronic Dissolution of Memory) uses stimoceivers to induce
 post-hypnotic suggestions.  Is this the 'missing time' of
 abductees?" (Note: although many 'abductees' have observed only the
 'saurian greys' or other types of 'greys' -- or even greys working
 with 'Military' personnel -- during their experiences, a few have
 actually described Military-CIA types operating the craft
 exclusively.  One subscriber whose letter appeared beside the one
 mentioned here, an 'R.D., of Pennington, New Jersey', referred to
 one abduction case wherein "...the principle 'alien' spoke to a
 woman in the English language, not via telepathy.  She recognized
 the voice as that of her close friend, who was then employed by the
 CIA."  One other case described by Charles Berlitz concerned a
 hunter who fired on some 'men' who had emerged from a disk-shaped
 craft.  One of the men got a bullet in the leg and fell down
 cursing, yelling in English at the gunman and asking what the hell
 he did that for.  The hunter later had visits from government types
 who warned him to keep quiet about the incident, and he got the
 impression the men he saw in the craft were some type of CIA or
 government agents.  Such cases to date have been rare however --
 when compared with the majority of the 'encounters', and should not
 be mistaken with the contacts with 'other' human groups wherein the
 occupants respect the individual's privacy and free will in
 obedience to some universal 'prime directive' [unlike the gray
 'abductions' themselves wherein the persons free will or privacy is
 considered of little or no value] - Branton).

 The letter continues: "Another technique uses a 'hemi-synch' device
 to produce different frequencies in each ear to 'entrain' the
 subject's brain with alpha or theta waves by the operators wishes,
 which could lead to vivid, directed hallucinations... Abductees
 describe a 'stereophonic sound' preceding their 'encounters'.
 These psycho-electronic devices may seem esoteric, and difficult
 to believe, but bio-electronics has been the primary focus of mind
 control research since the cessation of MKULTRA (i.e. the CIA 'mind
 control drug' experiments - Branton) in the '60's.  Experimentation
 has been carried out not (only) by the CIA, but by military
 intelligence agencies, especially the Defense Advanced Research
 Projects Agency (DARPA).

 "(UFO 'skeptic', and possible intelligence agent) Philip Klass
 relied on hypnotist/psychiatrist Martin Orne for his abduction
 book, BUT NEVER MENTIONED THAT ORNE WAS FUNDED to do MKULTRA work
 on amnesia by DARPA, the Air Force and the Navy.  Orne of course
 denies the possibility as a 'Manchurian Candidate' (i.e. that is,
 the use of a powerful hypnotic subject as described in the movie of
 the same name, to be 'programmed' for political assassination and
 then 'forget' any involvement with the head-doctors who controlled
 him - Branton), but BROTHERHOOD OF MURDER, about the neo-Nazi group
 called 'The Order', notes that they made contact with a Defense
 Department scientist to gain access to an esoteric mind control
 device.  This implies the technology is advanced enough, and
 portable enough for a small group to use.  Jacques Vallee
 (Ufologist) mentions a UFO contactee who murdered an East-bloc
 politician under the orders of the 'space brothers'... M.C..."


 --*--


 COSCON FILE #11

 "Commander X", a self-alleged member of a government intelligence
 network called "THE COMMITTE OF 12", who are devoted to defending
 the Earth and preserving our constitutional Freedoms, mentioned the
 following details that he and other associates of his had uncovered:

 "...The underground base outside of Dulce, New Mexico, is perhaps
 the one MOST FREQUENTLY referred to.  It's existence is most widely
 known, including several UFO abductees who have apparently been
 taken there for examination and then either managed to escape or
 were freed just in the nick of time by friendly... forces.

 "According to UFO conspiracy 

[CTRL] Reptilian Conspiracies - 3/4

1999-02-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 COSCON FILE #20

 In september, 1993, it was reported to a UFOlogist in Salt Lake
 City, Utah, that seven individuals, all prominent experts in their
 fields (Doctors, Scientists, Geologists, etc.) had discovered some
 ancient petroglyphs in a remote canyon southeast of Santa Fe
 (adjacent to LOS ALAMOS), New Mexico, near the western edge of the
 Santa Fe National Forest.

 They were uncertain as to whether other experts had seen the
 petroglyphs before, as they were difficult to find.  The
 researchers were absolutely incredulous as to the subject-matter
 of the ancient pictures, as they clearly showed representations
 of flying disks, aliens and other similar representations.

 They were even more surprised when they noticed a UFO flying
 directly overhead.

 The site, according to the sources, is located on private property.
 This might suggest that it is located just outside of the western
 boundary of the Santa Fe National Forest.  However, the group
 decided to stay the night, and when darkness fell they observed an
 'aerial show' of 22 or more UFO's.  One of the men stood up and
 wanted to walk out into the open to get a better view, but the rest
 yelled at him to get down as THEY did not wish to be found out,
 being uncertain as to the motives of the occupants.

 Around 4 o'clock in the morning, they observed from their hiding
 place 20-30 cattle trucks driving into the area.  This seemed very
 strange to them.  When one cattleman was told this some time
 afterwards they stated that such a thing, esoecially ocuring so
 early in the morning, was HIGHLY out of the ordinary.

 Los Alamos is believed to be one of the major areas of GRAY alien
 activity.  Could 'someone' have been offering up animal
 'sacrifices' in order to appease these creatures, which have been
 known to mutilate untold numbers of cattle (and humans) through-out
 the years?  This is only one possibility.  Another is that this is
 actually part of the "exchange" program between the Illuminati and
 the Grays.

 However, the group came back the following evening to the same
 place and observed the exact same scenario.  It is unlikely that
 the 'cattlemen' were oblivious to all of the concentrated UFO
 activity.  Could it be that they were making a 'delivery' to landed
 UFO's somewhere in the vicinity?

 To add to the mystery, three Huey Army Helicopters flew directly
 over them as if attempting to flush them out (whether the
 helicopters had seen their trucks or not is uncertain.  One source
 stated that one of the scientists worked for a leading government
 official, and when his license plate was run through the computer
 a government connection may have been made and so "they" did not
 interfere with the expedition members).  The entire  episode
 reportedly took place between the 11th - 13th of September, 1993.


 --*--


 COSCON FILE #21

 One caller who phoned in to KTKK (K-Talk) radio in Salt Lake City,
 in August of 1991, made some rather startling claims concerning
 high-tech 'Philadelphia' type experiments that had allegedly been
 conducted at the Top Secret Labs in or below the Nevada Military
 Complex.

 The caller referred to a 'Shawn Morton' who had allegedly visited
 'Area 51' and talked to a man who said that most of the technology
 depicted in the first 'Star Trek' series of the 1960's is now in
 the possession of the 'Secret Government'.

 Morton also was told that (possibly prior to the 'Philadelphia
 Experiments') top scientists who were tied-in with the secret
 government succeeded in 'teleporting' a china plate and that they
 were surprised that the object materialized in 'reverse image',
 including the lettering!  After some time they reportedly worked
 out the bugs and attempted to teleport a human being.  The first
 human being to be teleported (apparently after several successful
 experiments with animals, etc.) was the man known among some New
 Age groups -- and several conventional/secret government
 go-betweens such as Bush and Gorbachev who met with him at the
 'Malta' conference -- as 'Maitreya'.  This guy, if we are to
 believe Morton, was eventually 'teleported' and made to materialize
 infront of a stunned African tribe as an 'experiment' to determine
 how successful they (the Secret Government) could be in future
 attempts to pass-off 'Maitreya' OR OTHERS LIKE HIM as gods or
 divine entities in order to manipulate the religious passions of
 the unknowing masses towards their (the secret government's) own
 ends.

 Apparently the Illuminati -- which actually intended from its
 conception to recruit the most intellectually advanced minds in the
 world to help establish their technocratic dictatorship -- is using
 such extremely high-tech knowledge to bring to pass their own
 agendas of absolute control, rather than use this super-technology
 to help the diseased, poverty-stricken and starving masses of the
 planet.  One need only read their 'Global 

[CTRL] Meet Clinton's SS

1999-02-25 Thread flw

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Clinton's killer bully boys. Death Head symbols.
Unquestioning
obedience. Programed to kill domestic enemies?

Meet the new SS.
flw

 ARMED AND DANGEROUS
The military's new cowboys?
Heightened concerns
about Night Stalkers, Delta Force
--
--
By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

This is part one of a series of articles about the
controversial elite Night Stalkers and the Delta
Force, the U.S. military forces involved in recent
controversial exercises in Texas. Interviews have
been conducted by WorldNetDaily with numerous
current and former members of the group, other
military personnel, and others knowledgeable about
their activities. Some sources in the series will
be on the record, and some will not be able to be
disclosed.

--
--
A secret military organization took part in the
raid at Waco, Texas, and has been training in
civilian areas using live fire. It often ventures
into civilian areas without permission from local
authorities, according to a former member.

The Combat Applications Group is the secret
organization within the Special Operations Command
operating out of several military bases.

"Presidential Decision Directive 25 is the
authority given to them to operate and to be not
covered by posse comitatus. This is the Delta
Force. It's also known as the CAG (Combat
Applications Group). That's a cover name for their
organization behind the fence at Ft. Bragg, (North
Carolina)," explained a former Special Forces
member who spoke to WorldNetDaily on condition of
anonymity.

PDD 25 has been classified as top secret. All that
is available to the public is an executive
summary. Details of the document will be detailed
in another article in this series.

Members of the elite Delta Force and Night
Stalkers are carefully selected and screened from
Special Forces and other groups in all branches of
the military. The CAG is primarily run by the
Rangers, according to a source, who has many years
of experience with both the group, and with
clandestine operations.

The Night Stalkers are actually the 106th Special
Operations Aviation Regiment Airborne. Their job
is to transport Delta Force troops to an area for
a mission, then retrieve them. They are experts at
flying black-painted helicopters just over
treetops in the dark of night using special night
vision equipment.

Their motto is "Death waits in the dark." They
wear emblems that combine Greek mythology and
occult symbols.

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his
name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed
with him . . . to kill with sword and with hunger,
and with death," reads the Night Stalkers creed,
taken from Revelation 6:8 in the Bible.

The Night Stalkers have a website filled with
occult symbols of death, Greek mythical symbols,
and writings mocking the creation story of the
Bible, among many references to killing and death.
It is no wonder why so many military members have
expressed concern over this group.

A source confirmed the Night Stalkers and Delta
Force were involved in the raid at Waco. They
considered it a great opportunity for training and
experience.

Delta Force soldiers are handpicked and are
trained killers. They are expert at rescuing
hostages, SWAT operations and surprise raids to
kill an enemy.

"Yes indeed, these are the same people that were
at the back of the (Waco) compound -- not the FBI
HRT (Hostage Rescue Team). They were at the back
of the compound at Waco and were shooting the
people coming out. I did see the FLIRS (special
films) at SOCOM (Special Operations Command). The
HRT is a clone of them. They work very closely
with the HRT," explained a knowledgeable source
who requested anonymity.

The equipment used by the FBI HRT is identical to
that used by the Delta Force. Whenever an HRT
deploys, they use the Night Stalkers to get them
in and out.

The Night Stalkers and Delta Force were recently
confirmed to be involved in Operation Last Dance,
conducting live-fire raids on sites in civilian
areas in parts of Texas. Army public affairs
officers claim the civilian sites are used because
the elite forces get bored using military bases
for training.

"In a manner to justify their fairly large budget,
they have been performing these exercises. Not
that they just get bored. It's political empire
type things. Pretty vainly in some respects. In
order to justify their budgets, and in order to
keep them alive," said one source.

The Night Stalkers left Texas ready to plan
similar exercises in some other unsuspecting U.S.
neighborhood. They left behind a storm of
controversy and frightened residents who have not
stopped complaining. Some are even planning legal
action.

"They usually pay for all their damage by the way.
They have a bag person there, and they usually pay
for all their damage with cash. You just make a
claim to them and 

[CTRL] Das GOAT notes - 2/25/99

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

notes from Das GOAT
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Forwarded Message:

Date:   Wednesday, February 24, 1999 1:05:31 AM
From:   J1mS1
Subj:   Re: Toxic Waste Sites, Leaking Tanks, etc. in your area

Sent on:AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58

Subj:Toxic Waste Sites, Leaking Tanks, etc. in your area
Date:   99-02-24 01:08:12 EST

TOXIC WASTE SITES, LEAKING TANKS, POLLUTION SITES, ETC. IN YOUR AREA

Many of you are familiar with Nexis databases.  However, Lexis/Nexis also has
many other databases with which you may be less familiar.

Library:
ENVIRON   environmental files library

within which are these

 Files:
 SITE  pollution site records
 FDSITEfederal sites
 STSITEstate sites
 NPL   national priority list
 FINDS facility index
 CORRACT   Corracts sites
 FTTS  fifra and tsca tracking
 NPDESFnpdes facilities
 RCRIS rcra sites
 NPLISTnpl list
 PRP   potentially responsible parties
 SPL   state priority
 NFRAP cercla nfrap sites
 TRIS  toxic release inventory sites
 OSHAIRosha inspections
 LUST  leaking underground storage tanks
 SWS   state waste sites - landfills
 USTASTunderground tanks

So, you can look up any township, county, municipality or city, on any or all
of these databases to obtain lists of locations and owners.  Searching
uncommon names makes your task earlier, and avoids the need to restrict the
search by including a state abbreviation.

Important Note:  Find out from your reference librarian or IT specialist
whether your use agreement covers these databases, first to see if you can
access these databases and secondly to avoid any unpleasant cost surprises.

If you search your immediate geographic area on these databases, you would be
likely to come up with surprising results.

Another Important Note:  For whatever reasons, there are some disclaimers on
the accuracy of the data.  You probably want to cross check the results,
and/or perhaps to use a disclaimer yourself.

Finally, the EPA Regional Office closest to you, and perhaps NICAR, also may
have SOME of this data.

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Canadians Blame FDA for Bad Blood

By PETE YOST
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Already in court in Canada, hemophiliacs who are victims of
AIDS and hepatitis are taking their campaign for compensation to the United
States.

They say the U.S. government knew about infected blood plasma from state
prison inmates yet failed to stop its export.

``If I had asked questions 15 years ago, lives could have been saved,'' said
Michael Galster, a former medical worker at a now-defunct Arkansas company
which collected plasma from a state prison in Grady, Ark.

The plasma was sold in Canada and is suspected of having caused widespread
disease among hemophiliacs who need the blood-clotting characteristics of the
blood product.

The Food and Drug Administration decided the plasma was ``not fit for the
United States,'' said hemophiliac Michael McCarthy. ``It's unbelievable that
they allowed it to be exported.''

McCarthy is the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit filed against the Canadian
government for failing to safeguard that nation's blood supply.

At a news conference, the Canadians said they plan to sue the FDA and the
states of Arkansas and Louisiana, which allowed private companies to take
blood plasma from prison inmates in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

They said they plan to question President Clinton in connection with the
lawsuit about what he knew of the prison plasma program when he was Arkansas'
governor.

According to a report prepared for the Canadian government, the Arkansas
company, Health Management Associates, promptly told the FDA about blood
samples that had been collected from five Arkansas inmates who had previously
tested positive for hepatitis.

The FDA informed the Canadian government, because some of the plasma from the
company had been exported to Canada, and the company voluntarily kept off the
market the plasma it still had.

FDA spokesman Lawrence Bachorik said the agency does not comment on pending or
potential litigation.

The 1983 incident at the prison in Grady became an important part of the study
prepared for the Canadian government on how hemophiliacs in Canada might have
contracted hepatitis C.

Regarding Clinton, ``there's no credible suggestion of any involvement by the
president when he was governor,'' said White House spokesman Jim Kennedy.

``Any issues relating to how the state of Arkansas dealt with this matter
should be referred to the relevant agencies. Any suggestion of any possible
future legal actions involving the president are at this point 

[CTRL] Fwd: The Butler Firm (http://www.thacherproffitt.com/bfirm.htm)

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan
















Butler, Stillman  Hubbard
(1874-1896)



ith the exit of Barney, 1873 was a crucial year in the evolution of the law
partnership that would become Thacher Proffitt  Wood. 1873 was also a year of
transition for the American economy. The Panic of 1873 ushered in a long
period of deflation and recession that lasted until the end of the century.
The nation at large increasingly turned from sectional controversies to
economic matters. Less priority was given to the problems of the South, while
the rights of labor, the control of the railroads and the "trusts," the
agitation of populists and others for a "looser" currency and the coinage of
silver became the leading political issues of the day.

Much of this new concern about economic matters focused upon the one-square-
mile area at the tip of Manhattan Island, now often referred to generically as
"Wall Street." The banks and other financial institutions of lower Manhattan
dominated the nation's financial affairs as never before. National banks,
federally chartered institutions permitted under the Banking Act of 1863, held
balances for banks throughout the country and, in the absence of a single
central bank, acted as the de facto guardians of the nation's money supply.
Private financial markets also came to new prominence at this time. The New
York Stock Exchange acquired its first permanent home in 1865. When John D.
Rockefeller in 1883 moved the headquarters of Standard Oil from Cleveland,
Ohio to 26 Broadway in Lower Manhattan, it was another indication that the
city was attracting an unprecedented concentration of corporate and financial
power.

This increasing economic importance of the city's business required the
attention of a growing army of lawyers. Many lawyers now specialized in
commercial practice, forsaking highly public courtroom appearances for behind-
the-scenes work for business clients. It was at this time that the Wall Street
law firm came into its own. Though still minuscule by modern standards, law
firms were beginning to increase in size. The Butler firm, which had at most
three partners from 1848 to 1873, had seven partners by 1880. This put the
Butler firm in the forefront of New York firms. It was one of eleven firms in
New York in 1880 with five or more partners. (By 1915 there were fifty-one
firms of that size.)

It was not merely the size of the firm that was undergoing change. The
structure and nature of law firms were transformed as well. Before the Civil
War it had not been uncommon for lawyers to maintain extensive legal business
outside of the partnership. Lawyers often made separate arrangements, on a
case by case basis, with their law partners. New law clerks (what today are
called associates) had often been given office space and some legal duties to
perform, but no salary. They were expected to benefit from the prestigious
association with the senior attorneys and earn a living by picking up work on
the side. The larger concerns now provided salaries for their new clerks who,
in return, were expected to work full-time for the firm. Furthermore, there
was a professionalization of legal education. Law clerks were now expected to
be both college and law school graduates (and preferably from elite eastern
schools to get clerkships at the more prestigious firms). Previously, new
clerks expected relatively short stays at their first legal positions, which
they hoped would provide some contacts and final polishing of their legal
skills before striking out on their own. Now the more accomplished clerks
accepted positions with the understanding that, should their performance be
satisfactory, they would one day be made a partner.

The Butler firm was among the first to adopt these new procedures. In his
autobiography, Butler described the principles of operation at the firm:


I early formed the idea that the successful practice of law in our chief
metropolitan center required the use, to a certain extent, of commercial
methods, foremost among which were the delegation to competent subordinates of
all matters not requiring the personal attention of the partners; the
separation of moneys belonging to, or collected for, clients from the moneys
of the firm; immediate settlement with claimants for moneys received on their
account; no accounting between partners, all sums received from any source
being turned over to the cashier, by whom all disbursements were made, and
dividends declared only out of ascertained profits. In addition to these
rules, another followed with almost unvarying regularity, has been the
recruiting of the partnership from within and not from without, so that my
partners have been almost without exception trained in my own office.

Despite all the lawyers in the city of New York in 1870, many wondered whether
New York was truly governed by law. New York's population, which nearly
doubled in size to almost one million inhabitants between 1850 and 1870, was
rapidly expanding beyond the framework 

[CTRL] [10] The Plot to Seize the White House

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Plot to Seize the White House
Jules Archer(C)1973
Hawthorne Books, Inc.
New York, NY
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"So who the hell cares?" Butler shrugged. "There wouldn't be a
United States if it wasn't for a bunch of radicals. I once heard of
a radical named George Washington. As a matter of fact from
what I read he was an extremist--a goddam revolutionist!"
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PART F0UR

Fallout


1

About seven weeks after Butler and French had testified, John Spivak asked
McCormack for an interview, and it was granted. McCormack had no fear of
talking to a reporter from the New Masses, for which Spivak was writing at the
time. Communist-oriented or not, McCormack knew that the Masses was in the
forefront of exposing Nazi and anti-Semitic activities in the United States.

Asked about the deleted testimony, McCormack at first suggested that Spivak
was relying on gossip. When Spivak revealed and convinced McCormack that he
had seen the transcript of the executive session, the congressman grew annoyed
and canceled the interview. He agreed to let Spivak leave questions with him,
however, and said he would reply to those he chose to answer within three
days.

Writing Spivak a letter three days later, he gave no specific answers to
questions about the American Liberty League, the American Legion's passage of
the gold resolution, and the report that John W. Davis had written the speech
that MacGuire and Clark had wanted Butler to make.

"The reason for certain portions of General Butler's testimony in executive
session being deleted from the public record," he wrote, "has been clearly
stated in the public record."

He went on to make a broad attack against the plotters and to suggest that the
hearings had defeated them: "As a result of the investigation, and the
disclosures made, this movement has been stopped, and is practically broken
up. There is no question but that some of the leaders are attempting to carry
on, but they can make no headway. Public opinion, as a result of the
disclosures of the investigation, is aroused."

Spivak went to see Dickstein and asked him why Colonel Grayson M.-P. Murphy
had not been called upon to testify. "Your committee knew," Spivak reminded
him, "that Murphy's men are in the anti-Semitic espionage organization, Order
of 76."

"We didn't have the time," Dickstein replied. "We'd have taken care of the
Wall Street groups if we had the time. I would have had no hesitation in going
after the Morgans."

"You had Belgrano, commander of the American Legion, listed to testify. Why
wasn't he examined?"

"I don't know," Dickstein replied, and referred him back to McCormack for the
answer.


2

Spivak decided to inform General Butler, who, he was sure, did not realize it,
that portions of his and French's testimony had been omitted in the official
report issued by the McCormackDickstein Committee. "If he knew and said so
publicly," Spivak reasoned, "he would reach a vastly greater audience than was
available to me through the New Masses."

Telephoning the general, Spivak announced that he was from the New Masses and
wanted to see him about his testimony.

"Come on out," Butler said promptly. "Glad to see you."

The roads had not been cleared of a heavy snowfall of the night before, and
Spivak trudged to the house in Newtown Square through knee-deep snow. His
spartan march appealed to Butler, who welcomed him heartily with the approval
he had always shown to soldiers who disregarded the foulest weather to push on
doggedly with their assigned missions.

Spivak-saw a slender man with receding hair, lined and sunken cheeks, thick
eyebrows, furrowed lines between keen eyes, generous nose, and jutting
underlip. He liked Butler instantly, and the feeling was apparently mutual.

During their talk Butler revealed that he was intensely preoccupied with the
corporate exploitation of the military for profit. Anxious to arouse Americans
to this spoliation, he now believed it might be done by a more sophisticated
book of memoirs and reflections than Old Gimlet Eye.

"I think you're the man I've been hoping to run into to help me do an
autobiography," he told Spivak. "There are things I've seen, things I've
learned that should not be left unsaid. War is a racket to protect economic
interests, not our country, and our soldiers are sent to die on foreign soil
to protect investments by big business."

Spivak said regretfully that he felt compelled to continue investigating and
exposing a more urgent and dangerous situation --Nazi activities in the United
States. Butler agreed at once that this activity was more important and
offered to help by opening any doors be could for Spivak.

During their discussion Spivak learned "things about big business and
politics, sometimes in earthy, four-letter words, the like of which I had
never heard." Butler spilled over with anger at the hypocrisy that had marked
American interference in the internal affairs of other governments, behind a
smoke screen of pious 

[CTRL] [1] Blood Rites - Origins History of the Passions of War

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Blood Rites - Origins  History of the Passions of War
Barbara Ehrenreich(C)1997
Metropolitan Books
Hennry Holt  Companty
ISBN 0-8050-5077-9
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Well-written and thoughtful; when all is said and done, the veneer between
passions, expectations, propaganda and thought can be very thin.

Om
K
-

So elemental is the human need to endow the
shedding of blood with some great and even
sublime significance that it renders the intellect
almost entirely helpless(1)

--MARTIN VAN CREVELD

1

THE ECSTASY
OF WAR

Different wars have led to different theories of why men fight them. The
Napoleonic Wars, which bore along with them the rationalist spirit of the
French Revolution, inspired the Prussian officer Carl von Clausewitz to
propose that war itself is an entirely rational undertaking, unsullied by
human emotion. War, in his famous aphorism, is merely a "continuation of
policy . . . by other means," with policy itself supposedly resulting from the
same kind of clearheaded deliberation one might apply to a game of chess.
Nation-states were the leading actors on the stage of history, and war was
simply one of the many ways they advanced their interests against those of
other nation-states. If you could accept the existence of this new super-
person, the nation, a battle was no more disturbing and irrational than, say,
a difficult trade negotiation--except perhaps to those who lay dying on the
battlefield.

World War I, coming a century after Napoleon's sweep through Europe and
northern Africa, led to an opposite assessment of the human impulse to war.
World War I was hard to construe as in any way "rational," especially to that
generation of European intellectuals, including Sigmund Freud, who survived to
ponder the unprecedented harvest of dead bodies. History textbooks tell us
that the "Great War" grew out of the conflict between "competing imperialist
states," but this Clausewitzian interpretation has little to do with the
actual series of accidents, blunders, and miscommunications that impelled the
nations of Europe to war in the summer of 1914.(2) At first swept up in the
excitement of the war, unable for weeks to work or think of anything else,
Freud was eventually led to conclude that there is some dark flaw in the human
psyche, a perverse desire to destroy, countering Eros and the will to live.(3)

So these are, in crude summary, the theories of war which modern wars have
left us with: That war is a means, however risky, by which men seek to advance
their collective interests and improve their lives. Or, alternatively, that
war stems from subrational drives not unlike those that lead individuals to
commit violent crimes. In our own time, most people seem to hold both views at
once, avowing that war is a gainful enterprise, intended to meet the material
needs of the groups engaged in it, and, at the same time, that it fulfills
deep and "irrational" psychological needs. There is no question about the
first part of this proposition--that wars are designed, at least ostensibly,
to secure necessaries like land or oil or "geopolitical advantage." The
mystery lies in the peculiar psychological grip war exerts on us.

In the 1960s and '70s, the debate on the psychology of war centered on the
notion of an "aggressive instinct," peculiar to all humans or only to human
males. This is not the place to summarize that debate, with its endless
examples of animal behavior and clashes over their applicability to human
affairs. Here I would simply point out that, whether or not there is an
aggressive instinct, there are reasons to reject it as the major wellspring of
war.

Although it is true that aggressive impulses, up to and including murderous
rage, can easily take over in the heat of actual battle, even this statement
must be qualified to take account of different weaponry and modes of fighting.
Hand-to-hand combat may indeed call forth and even require the emotions of
rage and aggression, if only to mobilize the body for bursts of muscular
activity. In the case of action-at-a-distance weapons, however, like guns and
bows and arrows, emotionality of any sort can be a distinct disadvantage.
Coolness, and the ability to keep aiming and firing steadfastly in the face of
enemy fire, prevails. Hence, according to the distinguished American military
historian Robert L. O'Connell, the change in the ideal warrior personality
wrought by the advent of guns in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, from
"ferocious aggressiveness" to "passive disdain."(4) So there is no personality
type--"hot-tempered," "macho," or whatever--consistently and universally
associated with warfare.

Furthermore, fighting itself is only one component of the enterprise we know
as war. Wars are not barroom brawls writ large, or domestic violence that has
been somehow extended to strangers. In war, fighting takes place within
battles--along with much anxious waiting, of course--but wars do not begin
with battles and 

[CTRL] [2] Blood Rites - Origins History of the Passions of War

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Blood Rites - Origins  History of the Passions of War
Barbara Ehrenreich(C)1997
Metropolitan Books
Henry Holt  Companty
ISBN 0-8050-5077-9
-
Well-written and thoughtful; when all is said and done, the veneer between
passions, expectations, propaganda and thought can be very thin.

"And an Ashanti king stated in the mid-nineteenth century that "if I were to
abolish human sacrifice, I should deprive myself of one of the most effectual
means of keeping the people in subjection (24)"

Shades of the JFK killing.

Om,K
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In the familiar grade-school "values clarification" exercise, students must
decide which occupant of a hypothetical lifeboat--the homemaker, the banker,
the nun, and so forth--should be tossed overboard to lighten the load. In this
case, it is the sea which will consume the sacrificial victim, but often we
imagine a literal predator. A recent New York Times story was headlined "An
Offering to the Wolves: A Shuffling of His Staff Buys Time for Clinton," and
began:

It is one of the oldest rites of government: when things are not going well,
when the leader is in trouble, a member of his retinue must be sacrificed. At
least the wolves will be silenced for a while.
As Hubert and Mauss, the nineteenth-century historians of sacrifice, pointed
out, the meat left by ancient Greek sacrificial rituals was sometimes
literally carried off by wolves.

Om
K
--(2)--

Can one be sure of making a distinction
between the sacrificer holding a knife and the
wolf with gaping jaws reddened with blood?(1)

--MARCEL DETIENNE AND JESPER SVENBRO

4

THE FIRST BLOOD SACRIFICE

There is no question that the sacrifice of animals reenacts human predation on
animal life. Certain forms of sacrifice, however, have a very different
dramatic function: that of reenacting the predation of animals on humans.
Through the sacrifice of animals as stand-ins for human victims--or the
sacrifice of humans themselves--human beings not only celebrated their own
status as predators, possessed of the power to kill. They also acknowledged,
and thrillingly replayed, their own long, long prehistory as prey.
If predation played as significant a role in human prehistory as I have
suggested, and if it remained a concern well into historical times, we might
expect to find some trace of that horrifying experience in cultural rituals.
One obvious place to look is at the category of ritual which is termed
apotropaic, referring to actions aimed at warding off evil in the form of
enemies, disease, or malevolent spirits.

Powerful evil forces must be frightened or appeased, and in some cases these
forces are, or once were, literal beasts. In European folk tradition, for
example, children run through the town at some point in spring or winter,
cracking whips--a custom probably left over from a time when whips were used
to drive marauding wolves away.(2)
Many forms of sacrifice could also be regarded as apotropaic rituals insofar
as the failure to perform them is, in the view of the sacrificers, an
invitation to disaster. Here, too, the original danger may have been predation
by carnivorous animals. Walter Burkert, who in Homo Necans explained sacrifice
as a way of dealing with the guilt occasioned by the hunting and killing of
animals, took a very different approach in a later essay. Attempting to
imagine the "unritualized, real situation" from which sacrificial ritual might
have evolved; he proposes a group surrounded by predators: men chased by
wolves, or apes in the presence of leopards. The utmost danger is met with
excitement and anxiety. Usually there will be but one way of salvation: one
member of the group must fall prey to the hungry carnivores, then the rest
will be safe for the time being. An outsider, an invalid, or a young animal
will be most liable to become the victim. This situation of pursuit by
predators must have played a momentous role in the evolution of civilization,
while man, as a hunter, became a predator himself.(3)

In general, he suggests, the demons who must be pacified in various apotropaic
rituals "cannot but assume the features of predators."(4)* [*Intuitively,
Burkert's conjecture has a definite appeal, Situations in which one individual
must be sacrificed so that others may live both haunt and intrigue us. In the
familiar grade-school "values clarification" exercise, students must decide
which occupant of a hypothetical lifeboat--the homemaker, the banker, the nun,
and so forth--should be tossed overboard to lighten the load. In this case, it
is the sea which will consume the sacrificial victim, but often we imagine a
literal predator. A recent New York Times story was headlined "An Offering to
the Wolves: A Shuffling of His Staff Buys Time for Clinton," and began:

It is one of the oldest rites of government: when things are not going well,
when the leader is in trouble, a member of his retinue must be sacrificed. At
least the wolves will be silenced for a while.
As Hubert and 

[CTRL] OEN 2/25/99

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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US Current Account Deficit

Greenspan's Conundrum

by Paul E. Erdman


An excerpt from the Humphrey-Hawkins Senate hearings:

SENATOR BUNNING: Do you think the present trade deficit is a cause of
concern?

MR. GREENSPAN: There is a tricky problem here, which we have not been
able to solve. We do know that the trade deficit creates a very large
so-called current-account deficit, which is really the net borrowing
from the rest of the world. And invariably, what we are seeing is a
major increase in dollar asset holdings by non-Americans, which is
clearly the other side of the trade deficit. As of now, the appetite to
hold U.S. dollar-denominated assets seems quite extensive, and there is
no evidence that I'm aware of which is suggestive of any individual's
eschewing dollar asset holdings.

But we nonetheless do have the problem of projecting how far into the
future this particular type of current account deficit can continue
without impacting on the exchange rate and, as a consequence, on the
whole structure of the American economy.

* * * * *




SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) How much of our national debt is in foreign
hands? A lot. In the decade prior to 1994, it had remained at around 20
percent or less. Since then, foreign ownership as a percent of total
privately held public debt has rocketed up to 38 percent. With our trade
deficit projected to be in excess, maybe well in excess, of $200 billion
in years ahead, that may rise to a level approaching 50 percent. Among
the largest holders are Japan, mainland China and OPEC nations, which
many would regard as hardly the safest of hands.
So how to solve Mr. Greenspan's problem? There are only two ways that I
know of. If foreign investors begin to get skittish, the Fed could raise
dollar interest rates to entice them to keep the money pouring in. The
other way is to allow for a major devaluation of the dollar, in order to
"correct" the trade imbalance. The trouble with this is that it takes a
long time to really accomplish that end.

When the word gets out that this is the new direction the United States
is taking, rather than suffer severe foreign exchange losses on the
dollar holdings, many foreign investors, and especially the Japanese,
might decide to pull out of U.S. Treasurys and back into the yen en
masse.

One conclusion making the rounds is that the $200 billion-plus needed to
finance our trade deficit, and an immense Japanese budgetary deficit
that will approach 10 percent of their gross domestic product, will
require an extraordinary tapping of global savings.

It has been suggested that this could drive the Japanese bond yields
toward 3 percent, and our 30-year Treasury yield toward 6 percent. Such
higher U.S. bond yields would provide the needed enticement for
foreigners to stay put, preclude the need for the Fed to change
short-term interest rates, and allow the United States to maintain its
bias in favor of a strong dollar.

This world is getting complicated.

CBS Marketwatch, Feb. 24, 1999


Unindicted FLOTUS

Hubbell Trial Will Haunt First Lady

Cow patties smelling of Rosewhitewater

WASHINGTON (AP) -- If Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for the Senate, she
will be campaigning amid the continuing legal saga of Whitewater. Mrs.
Clinton's legal work back in Arkansas will be a key issue in the pending
trial of her former law partner, Webster Hubbell.
Mrs. Clinton is referred to 36 times in a fraud indictment against
Hubbell, signifying that her name will be brought up repeatedly in her
old friend's trial, scheduled to begin June 14. It could get more
complicated.

She could be called as a witness, either by Kenneth Starr's prosecutors
or Hubbell's defense team.

Starr alleges Hubbell concealed his own and Mrs. Clinton's work during
the 1980s on a failed Arkansas land deal, known as Castle Grande, that
federal regulators say was riddled with ``insider dealing, fictitious
sales and land flips.'' The Clintons' Whitewater partner, Jim McDougal,
tried to sell off pieces of Castle Grande to prop up his collapsing
savings and loan.

``It seems that one side or the other's got to call Mrs. Clinton as a
witness because if she's inextricably bound up in these affairs, she's
got information that one side or the other would want,'' said George
Washington University law professor Mary Cheh.

The first lady's name also could come up in next month's criminal
contempt trial of former Whitewater partner Susan McDougal, who is
accused of obstructing Starr's probe. The indictment against Mrs.
McDougal details a series of grand jury questions about Mrs. Clinton and
Castle Grande that Mrs. McDougal refused to answer.

University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato said the Hubbell
case is one of many obstacles to Mrs. Clinton's potential run for a New
York Senate seat.

"She will be target No. 1 not just for the New York press corps but 

[CTRL] Quigley's Tentative Roster of the Milner Group:

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

Quigley's Tentative Roster of the Milner Group: THE ANGLO-AMERICAN
ESTABLISHMENT 311-315 (1981)

A. The Society of the Elect
Cecil John Rhodes
Nathan Rothschild, Baron Rothschild
Sir Harry Johnston
William T. Stead
Reginald Brett, Viscount Esher
Alfred Milner, Viscount Milner
B. F. Hawksley
Thomas Brassey, Lord Brassey
Edmund Garrett
[Sir Edward Cook]
Alfred Beit
Sir Abe Bailey
Albert Grey, Earl Grey
Archibald Primrose, Earl of Rosebery
Arthur James Balfour
Sir George R. Parkin
Philip Lyttelton Gell
Sir Henry Birchenough
Sir Reginald Sothern Holland
Arthur Lionel Smith
Herbert A. L. Fisher
William Waldegrave Palmer, Earl of Selborne
[Sir Alfred Lyttelton]
Sir Patrick Duncan
Robert Henry Brand, Baron Brand
Philip Kerr, Marquess of Lothian
Lionel Curtis
Geoffrey Dawson
Edward Grigg, Baron Altrincham
Jan C. Smuts
Leopold Amery
Waldorf Astor, Viscount Astor
Nancy Astor, Lady Astor

B. The Association of Helpers
1. The Inner Circle
Sir Patrick Duncan
Robert Henry Brand, Baron Brand
Philip Kerr, Marquess of Lothian
Lionel Curtis
William L. Hichens
Geoffrey Dawson
Edward Grigg, Baron Altrincham
Herbert A. L. Fisher
Leopold Amery
Richard Feetham
Hugh A. Wyndham
Sir Dougal Malcolm
Basil Williams
Basil Kellett Long
Sir Abe Bailey
Jan C. Smuts
Sir William Marris
James S. Meston, Baron Meston
Malcolm Hailey, Baron Hailey
Flora Shaw, Lady Lugard
Sir Reginald Coupland
Waldorf Astor, Viscount Astor
Nancy Astor, Lady Astor
Maurice Hankey, Baron Hankey
Arnold J. Toynbee
Laurence F. Rushbrook Williams
Henry Vincent Hodson
Vincent Todd Harlow

2. The Outer Circle
John Buchan, Baron Tweedsmuir
Sir Fabian Ware
Sir Alfred Zimmern
Gilbert Murray
Robert Cecil, Viscount Cecil of Chelwood
Sir James W. Headlam-Morley
Frederick J. N. Thesiger, Viscount Chelmsford
Sir Valentine Chirol
Edward F. L. Wood, Earl of Halifax
Sir [James] Arthur Salter
Sir Arthur H. D. R. Steel-Maitland
William G. A. Ormsby-Gore, Baron Harlech
Dame Edith Lyttelton, Mrs. Alfred Lyttelton
Frederick Lugard, Baron Lugard
Sir [Leander] Starr Jameson
Henry W. C. Davis
John A. Simon, Viscount Simon
Samuel J. G. Hoare, Viscount Templewood
Maurice P. A. Hankey, Baron Hankey
Wilson Harris
[Francis Clarke]
William G. S. Adams
[William K. Hancock]
Ernest L. Woodward
Sir Harold Butler
Kenneth N. Bell
Sir Donald B. Somervell
Sir Maurice L. Gwyer
Charles R. S. Harris
Sir Edward R. Peacock
Sir Cyril J. Radcliffe
John W. Wheeler-Bennett
Robert J. Stopford
Robert M. Barrington-Ward
[Kenneth C. Wheare]
Edward H. Carr
Malcolm MacDonald
Godfrey Elton, Baron Elton
Sir Neill Malcolm
Freeman Freeman-Thomas, Viscount Willingdon
Isaiah Berlin
Roger M. Makins
Sir Arthur Willert
Ivison S. Macadam

Members in other countries

a. Canada
Arthur J. Glazebrook
Sir George Parkin
Vincent Massey
George P. de T. Glazebrook
Percy Corbett
[Sir Joseph Flavelle]

b. United States
George Louis Beer
Frank Aydelotte
Jerome Greene
[Clarence Steit]

c. South Africa
Jan C. Smuts
Sir Patrick Duncan
Sir Abe Bailey
Basil K. Long

Richard Feetham
[Sir James Rose-Innes]

d. Australia
Sir Thomas Bavin
Sir Frederic Eggleston
[Dudley D. Braham]

e. New Zealand
Sir James Allen
William Downie Stewart
Arthur R. Atkinson

f. Germany
Helmuth James von Moltke
Adam von Trott zu Solz


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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
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Re: [CTRL] Kurds: Who Why Important

1999-02-25 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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Thanks.  I lived in Kurdish territory for some years, and as is often the case
in the Middle East, all sides have a point.  This is probably some of the
fairest discussion of the issue I've seen in a long time.  Prudy

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[CTRL] TURMEL: Consequences of interest-free money

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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from LETS Digest #46
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Message: 10
   Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 05:15:24 -0500 (EST)
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Turmel)
Subject: TURMEL: Consequences of interest-free money

Date: Sun Feb 21 14:51:32 1999
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Charles Michael")
Subject: [lets] Re: Consequences of interest free money?
Hi all, Some really stimulating debates lately. Here's a few ideas.
A standard and well proven aspect of the law of supply and demand is
that, when you make an important commodity (money) free of cost (o%
interest on loans) then demand for that commodity skyrockets. That is
why, for example, when a country establishes a national health care
system that appears to make all medical services "free" then you
quickly get waiting lists and queing because demand quickly outstrips
available supply.
 JCT: Actually, there will be a service charge associated with
each transaction. And of course, all loans must be repaid so it's not
as if we're just giving away money like we're giving away medical
services so the analogy is not correct. As well, it's impossible to
outstrip supply. Gambling casinos have been offering such interest-
free loans of chips for decades if not centuries with none of the
suggested problems.

In the LETS banking system that is under discussion, creating new
credit for a loan requires a mere push of a button. So, no shortage
there. However, there are limits to the supply of goods that will be
demanded by the new money that will be created by all those loans.
 JCT: You're putting the cart before the horse. Rather than issue
the money and then hope the goods will be there to be bought, once the
goods have been ordered and produced, then the money is issued. Loans
will never be created unless the product is actually there to be
bought. It's a often-made economic assumption that with a zero
interest rate, people will all borrow a billion dollars just so they
can have a billion dollars. In reality, using their Visa cards then as
they do today, the loan won't be created until they are purchasing the
goods and if there are no goods to be purchased, no loans are
forthcoming. But even if we allowed people to borrow a couple of
suitcases of money because they chose to, who would it hurt if they
walked around with their two suitcases of money until they realized
that it's not doing the many good since they could use their credit
cards when they need to so they're lugging all non-to-be-used money
around for nothing.

Given 0% interest, the cost of buying a house or car will drop
drastically.
 JCT: Actually, the cost of the house won't change, only the cost
of buying it will and only drop by the amount of the interest. So
instead of the cost of buying a $100,000 house being $300,000, the
cost of buying the $100,000 house will be $100,000 plus a dollar per
monthly payment for the banker's service charge. The men who built the
house will still receive the same money they would have, it's only the
men who created the loan who get dollars rather than hundreds of
thousands of dollars.

Avalanches of people will rush to take out loans that will be fully
collateralized by the houses and cars they purchase.
 JCT: Okay, this is true. Every person will try to buy their
apartment, every person will try to buy their home, every person will
try to buy their transportation, every person will try to buy their
tools.

Soon every carpenter, plumber, building materials supplier and car
maker will be working flat out to 110% of capacity.
 JCT: Operating at 110% of capacity is an economics notion, much
like living beyond our means by eating next year's crop. Yes, they
will all be working to full capacity though never beyond their means.
No, they can't work beyond 100%. All I've ever promised is 100%. And
of course, the boom will also generate unskilled labor jobs for all
those people who owe for the houses they've purchased.

Now we have a classic demand pull inflation with too many LETS
dollars chasing a limited supply of goods and services.
 JCT: This is jumping to a conclusion based on the fact that
you've assumed that everyone is running around with suitcases of money
and nothing to spend it on when they are really only running around
with their interest-free credit cards looking for something to buy
with it. No LETS dollars were ever created until the point of sale,
until the point of capture, never during the chase.
 I don't doubt that after prices go down by the amount of interest
manufacturers no longer have to pay, that prices will then be bid up
by the law of supply and demand and that's okay as long as everyone
realizes that they are bidding with hours of their own labor they'll
have to pay back.

The point here is that simply collateralizing loans will not ensure
0% inflation!
 JCT: Remember that no new loans are issued by cashier's cage
until someone has a home or other asset to be collateralized. So there
can be no 

Re: [CTRL] Nightmare on Orme Street

1999-02-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
[priory-of-sion] Digest Number 452
http://www.onelist.com

The mailing list resource page can

be found at the following address

http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/
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Message: 16
   Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:37:32 -0800
   From: Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Nightmare on Orme Street

Dear Friends,

At 04:09 PM 2/24/99 -0500, Ex wrote:

 From: "guy" 

 de lys, Arthur, the Grail, the Cathars etc complete with wild word
 associations and yes, you guessed it... monatomic gold. Apparently the
 ancient royal offspring were nourished on 'starfire' - royal menstrual
 blood. In time, however, this 'was replaced by the eating of a white
powder,
 monoatomic gold, to heighten consciousness'. I shall certainly be popping
 into Watkins to peruse the index and sources for Mr Gardner's offering.

  OK, I have to admit I've never been nourished by royal menstrual blood.
But I just can't see the relationship between monoatomic gold and royal
menstrual blood.  Was the blood reported to have gold in it?  Iron? Sure!
But gold?

The ORMUS (or ORME) elements have been identified in body fluids. David
Hudson claims that ORMUS rhodium is excreted in the urine:

"Over 80% of the rhodium passes directly into the urine and out each day.
The iridium doesn't, the iridium seems to be absorbed into what they call
the meridian system, for what that's worth."

(Source: Hudson's Dallas Lecture:
http://www.triax.com/bmnfa/science/ORMUS/Presentations/Dallas1.htm )

Other sources claim that iridium is excreted in perspiration.

Some of my colleagues have tested urine for the ORMUS elements and have
determined that they are there though they have not identified the specific
elements which are in urine.

Drinking urine is a fairly common medicinal practice in some traditional
cultures. Urine is also commonly used in alchemical processes. Here is the
excerpt (from
http://www.hps-online.com/hurine2.htm) which relates to a modern theory
about the efficacy of urine therapy:

"Urine can be considered to contain an exact holographic picture of the
body fluids and tissues. The biofeedback of this holographic information by
re-ingesting the urine may well inform the energy system in a way which
helps restoring a disturbed balance. The medical doctor and urine therapist
Abele cautiously discusses the possible effect of urine as
holographic feedback: "The question rises as to whether urine could
possibly be considered to be a sort of liquid-hologram. Once the body has
been made conscious of urine in an unconventional way (such as it being
reintroduced into the body by intramuscular injection) the whole organism
evaluates it and subsequently updates its own regulating mechanisms (at
least in specific cases)."

Since the ORMUS elements appear to be essential to life, it is reasonable
to assume that they would also be particularly abundant in fluids
associated with reproduction such as menstrual fluid and semen. Hudson
claims that the ancient Egyptians called these elements the semen of Father
in Heaven:

"Okay, now we come back to the Hebrews who exited Egypt.  All of the
Egyptians that had this knowledge were slaughtered, and no one was there to
bring them back to life.  But the Hebrews had this knowledge, and Bezaleel,
the goldsmith, was commanded by Moses to prepare the "What is it?", the
manna, or the "bread of the presence of God", which was another name, they
knew it in old kingdom Egypt.  In old kingdom Egypt they had three other
names for it, it was called "the golden tear from the eye of Horus", it was
called "that which issues from the mouth of the Creator", the spittle, or
it was called "the semen of the Father in Heaven".  And if you take the
white powder gold and you mix it with water, it forms a gelatinous white
suspension, that, as a farmer I can attest, it does look just like semen,
which we use to, for the cattle and all.  Ah, that would be a good
description of it, if I was trying to convey to someone what it looks like."

It is likely that, if menstrual blood was a source for the ORMUS elements,
it was processed in some way to concentrate them. I would guess that these
concentration processes were then used to concentrate these elements from
mineral sources.

There are several types of ORMUS gold. The most common is a white powder.
Less common is a purple/red gold. The white powder of gold is generally
considered to be a spiritual dead end. Ingesting it leaves one somewhat
lackadaisical and forgetfull. The purple/red gold seems to have a much more
beneficial effect, both physically and spiritually. The alchemists called
this product the "Red Lion".

I would guess that menstrual fluid contains a mixture of ORMUS rhodium and
iridium. These two elements are most closely related to physical healing
and regeneration. It may contain the red gold but I doubt it. It is my
personal theory that the "iron" in hemoglobin is sometimes (or always)
ORMUS rhodium.

None of the ORMUS elements 

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FDA Blamed for Blood Export

Canadians Lobby U.S. for Contamination Compensation





By Pete Yost
The Associated Press
W A S H I N G T O N,  Feb. 25
  Already in court in Canada, hemophiliacs who are victims of AIDS and hepatitis are taking their campaign for compensation to the United States.


They say the U.S. government knew about infected blood plasma from state prison inmates yet failed to stop its export.


If I had asked questions 15 years ago, lives could have been saved, said Michael Galster, a former medical worker at a now-defunct Arkansas company which collected plasma from a state prison in Grady, Ark.


The plasma was sold in Canada and is suspected of having caused widespread disease among hemophiliacs who need the blood-clotting characteristics of the blood product.

Why Was It Allowed Out?

The Food and Drug Administration decided the plasma was not fit for the United States, said hemophiliac Michael McCarthy. Its unbelievable that they allowed it to be exported.


McCarthy is the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit filed against the Canadian government for failing to safeguard that nations blood supply.


At a news conference, the Canadians said they plan to sue the FDA and the states of Arkansas and Louisiana, which allowed private companies to take blood plasma from prison inmates in the late 1970s and early 1980s.


They said they plan to question President Clinton in connection with the lawsuit about what he knew of the prison plasma program when he was Arkansas governor.

FDA Told of Infection Immediately

According to a report prepared for the Canadian government, the Arkansas company, Health Management Associates, promptly told the FDA about blood samples that had been collected from five Arkansas inmates who had previously tested positive for hepatitis.


The FDA informed the Canadian government, because some of the plasma from the company had been exported to Canada, and the company voluntarily kept off the market the plasma it still had.


FDA spokesman Lawrence Bachorik said the agency does not comment on pending or potential litigation.


The 1983 incident at the prison in Grady became an important part of the study prepared for the Canadian government on how hemophiliacs in Canada might have contracted hepatitis C.


Regarding Clinton, theres no credible suggestion of any involvement by the president when he was governor, said White House spokesman Jim Kennedy.


Any issues relating to how the state of Arkansas dealt with this matter should be referred to the relevant agencies. Any suggestion of any possible future legal actions involving the president are at this point hypothetical, and unless and until legal action is taken were not going to comment on hypothetical legal actions.





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Re: [CTRL] Kurds: Who Why Important

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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The problem we run into with the Kurds or the Serbs or the whoevers is the
unfortunate circumstance of dealing with the governments (recognised) and
extrapolating data about *their* conditions to that of the populations
under their control.  The governments generally accommodate whoever is
paying the $$$, Marks, Pounds, Yen, whatever, in order to secure the other
(money paying) governments approval.

Myself, I lived through two coups in Turkey (remember only the second one
{age permitted}) and recall the Turks are NOT very partial to those who
don't play their game their way.  Given I was there with the lifetimes of
many natives who remember the Ataturk days and perhaps even back to the
Ottoman days, nationalism was intense.  We (non-nationals) were restricted
to our houses until the situation was resolved -- ultimately by hanging the
instigators {front page news for them -- a warning, nonetheless}.  I still
remember the support chant as well as the Turkish soldiers on every corner,
standing sentry, in their woolen uniforms -- it was Spring or Summer.

All sides do have a point but the issues become blurred when those who
choose to participate don't realise how much is going on, for how long, who
the players are, and why the (often centuries old) rifts exist.  Were it
not for the strong-arm tactics in many of the Middle Eastern nations,
there'd be untold shifts in the power -- much like the sand dunes in the
deserts ... very similar to what we are being committed to in the Balkans
as well as Iraq.  For some reason, I liken this to Viet Nam; an involvement
in another country's affairs with no expectation of success.

My take on these issues is similar to the story of the two fellows who are
having a scuffle.  The third (or so) guy(s) come along and want to be the
peacekeeper(s), want to break it up -- without even knowing what's up.  The
fighting two decide the third (or so) guy(s) are interfering, so they stop,
shift the conflict to the intruder(s).  Once the intruder(s) leave, they go
back to the original scuffle.  One of them will prevail.

--
: From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [CTRL] Kurds:  Who  Why Important
: Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:52 AM
:
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:
: Thanks.  I lived in Kurdish territory for some years, and as is often the
case
: in the Middle East, all sides have a point.  This is probably some of the
: fairest discussion of the issue I've seen in a long time.  Prudy
:

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[CTRL] Arabiana: PotPourri

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From ArabicNews.CoM

Wide condemnation for the annexation of village of Arnoun
Regional, Politics, 2/25/99

The Arab Parliamentary Union, which has Damascus as its headquarters, has
condemned Israel's new aggression against Lebanon in annexing the town of
Arnoun.

In a statement issued in Damascus on Wednesday, the APU said that Israel's
annexation of Arnoun unmasked its expansionist ambitions, and its flagrant
disregard for the United Nations charter and international legitimacy
resolutions.

The statement added: "The only road to security and stability is the
establishment of a just and comprehensive Middle East peace based on
legitimacy resolutions and the land-for-peace principle."

The statement voiced all-out support for Lebanon and called upon Arab
governments to condemn the Israeli aggression and assist Lebanon on all
levels.

In Cairo, the General Secretariat of the Arab Bar Association on Wednesday
condemned Israel's new acts of aggression manifested and fully expressed in
the annexation of Arnoun. The Secretary of the Arab Bar Association, Farouk
Abu Issa, said in a press conference on Wednesday that the new Israeli
practices are an expression of Israel's insistence on violating
international legitimacy resolutions and on pursuing a policy of aggression
and expansion.

Abu Issa voiced the Arab lawyers' full support for Lebanon and for the
Lebanese resistance movement.

In Amman, the Arab Human Rights Organization in Jordan called in a
statement issued on Wednesday upon the UN Security Council to work for the
implementation of UN Security Council resolution 425 concerning Lebanon.

Qatar on Wednesday strongly condemned Israel's annexation of the Lebanese
town of Arnoun to the occupied part of south Lebanon and described this act
as a flagrant violation of all international norms and charters. The Qatar
News Agency said the Qatari Cabinet called upon the international community
to shoulder its responsibilities and pressure Israel to force it to
withdraw from the Lebanese town and other Lebanese territories through
immediate implementation of UN resolution 425, which provides for Israel's
unconditional withdrawal from south Lebanon.

The Arab group at the United Nations Organization on wednesday condemned
Israel's expansion in Southern Lebanon and urged the International
community to exert pressure on the Israel to withdraw its forces from the
country.

At a meeting of Arab delegates, the ambassador of Lebanon, Samir Mubarak,
presented a detailed account of latest expansionist actions by Israel and
its proxy, the south Lebanese army (SLA).

"This new Israeli aggression comes at a time when the Israeli leaders,
within the context of their election campaign, are constantly talking about
a withdrawal from Lebanon and an end of the occupation of the Lebanese
territories in order to win votes," Mubarak said in a letter addressed to
Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

During the Arab group meeting on Wednesday, the Israeli action was
described as a "blatant violation" of the U.N. charter, international law
and UN resolutions," according to a statement of the mission of the United
Arab Emirates, which currently chairs the Arab group.

+ + + +

Syrian-Turkish security committee concludes meeting in positive atmospheres
Syria, Politics, 2/25/99

The talks of the Syrian-Turkish security committee were concluded in
"positive atmospheres," according to well-informed sources.

On the Syrian side, the two day meeting was attended by chairman of the
political security department Lt. Gen. Adnan Bader Hassan and by the
commander of the Turkish second army Gen. Etach Yalman, on the Turkish
side.

Diplomatic sources in Damascus said that "diplomatic relations may witness
in the middle of next month a great push forward" and that the two sides:
"evaluated the mechanism progress" of the Adanah agreement signed on
October 20, 1998 in "preventing any activity aimed at the security of each
of the two countries and their stability from the territories of the
other."

The diplomatic sources said the two sides "expressed satisfaction with the
security agreement's progress" for better relations between the two
countries and "strengthening them to also cover the economic level."

+ + + +

Iranian president ready to cooperate with Morocco to defend Jerusalem
Morocco, Politics, 2/25/99

President Mohamed Khatami of Iran who is holding the rotating chairmanship
of the Organization of Islamic Conference "OIC" is ready to cooperate with
King Hassan II to defend the holy city of Jerusalem.

The statement was made by Kadhem el-Khansari, adviser to the Iranian
foreign minister, during the opening session of the international colloquy
on "the Future of Arab Jerusalem," currently held in Casablanca.

The Iranian official underlined President Khatami's will to enhance
consultation with King Hassan II, chairman of the Al-Quds Committee, and
with all the member countries of the Organization of Islamic conference, in
order to 

Re: [CTRL] Kurds: Who Why Important

1999-02-25 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 2/25/99 4:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 My take on these issues is similar to the story of the two fellows who are
 having a scuffle.  The third (or so) guy(s) come along and want to be the
 peacekeeper(s), want to break it up -- without even knowing what's up.  The
 fighting two decide the third (or so) guy(s) are interfering, so they stop,
 shift the conflict to the intruder(s).  Once the intruder(s) leave, they go
 back to the original scuffle.  One of them will prevai 

You're right in some ways.  If you want to see a Kurdish citizen of Turkey
become a Turk real fast, scratch him with a Greek.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Media-tion

1999-02-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Via Utne Reader OnLine
http://www.utne.com

As the World Turns
Beyond Hollywood, soap operas spread social change

If you based your own behavior on the lives of your favorite soap opera
characters, by now you'd probably be working on your seventh marriage,
living under an assumed identity, and secretly dating your randy young
tennis coach.

In the United States, at least, soap operas are largely escapism: The
characters lead a glamorous, dangerous existence, and their
larger-than-life exploits walk a fine line between drama and satire. In
Mexico and Kenya it's a different story. Instead of leading lives of
corruption and intrigue, the top soap opera idols there are models of
decorum. And as Rashmi Mayur and Bennett Daviss report in The Futurist
(Oct. 1998), some of the shows are selling more than detergent: They're
spreading a compelling family planning message to vast audiences.

In Mexico, Population Communications International (PCI), a New York-based
advocacy group, teamed up with sociologists and television producers to
create Accompag–ame ("Come Along With Me"), a dramatic series featuring the
struggles of a lower-class family with two children. In one episode, the
wife, afraid that a larger family may keep them from realizing their
economic ambitions, convinces her reluctant husband to accompany her to a
birth-control clinic. The husband agrees-in part because he believes his
wife will be willing to have sex more frequently once she no longer has to
worry about getting pregnant.

The show was a hit in more ways than one: In the six months following the
birth-control episode, registration at Mexico's family planning clinics
jumped by 33 percent.

Accompag–ame has since left the air, but PCI has taken the model to other
countries. In Kenya, the organization produces a radio and television
serial that reaches 40 percent of the population, often outdrawing even
national soccer matches. The show, Ushikwapo Shikamana ("If Assisted,
Assist Yourself"), deals with family planning and related concerns, such as
land inheritance in large families. Results have been equally impressive:
Contraceptive use rose by some 58 percent following the serial's premiere,
and, according to The Futurist, recent polls indicate that Kenyans' desired
family size has fallen from an average of 6.3 children to 4.4.

"People watch and listen because they are entertained by a good story,"
says PCI president David J. Andrews. "They learn because the characters
become role models whose experiences reflect an intriguing variety of both
positive and negative behavior."

-Andy Steiner

Contact Population Communications International at 777 United Nations
Plaza, New York, NY 10017; 212/687-3366; www.population.org.

+ + + +

Swoosh!
The perfect icon for an imperfect postliterate world.

The early followers of Christ created a symbol to represent their beliefs
and communicate with one another in times of persecution. The well-known
Icthus, or "Christian fish," consisted of two curved lines that transected
each other to form the abstract outline of fish and tail. The word for fish
also happened to be a Greek acronym wherein:

•Iota = Iesous = Jesus
•Chi = Christos = Christ
•Theta = Theos = God
•Upsilon = Huios = Son
•Sigma = Soter = Savior

Combining symbol and word, the fish provided believers with an integrated
media package that could be easily explained and understood. When the
threat of being fed to the lions forced Christians to be less explicit,
they dropped the text. Without the acronym to define the symbol's
significance, the fish could mean anything or nothing, an obvious advantage
in a culture hostile to certain beliefs. But to Christians the textless
symbol still signified silent rebellion against the ruling authorities.
Within three centuries, the faith signified by the fish had transformed
Rome into a Christian empire.

Today, in an electronically accelerated culture, a symbol can change the
face of society in about one-sixteenth that time. Enter the Nike Swoosh,
the most ubiquitous icon in the country, and one that many other
corporations have sought to emulate. In a world where technology,
entertainment, and design are converging, the story of the Swoosh is by far
the most fascinating case study of a systematic, integrated, and insanely
successful formula for icon-driven marketing.

The simple version of the story is that a young Oregon design student named
Caroline Davidson got $35 in 1971 to create a logo for then-professor (now
Nike CEO) Phil Knight's idea of importing and selling improved Japanese
running shoes. Nike's innovative product line, combined with aggressive
marketing and brand positioning, eventually created an unbreakable mental
link between the Swoosh image and the company's name. As Nike put it, there
was so much equity in the brand that they knew it wouldn't hurt to drop the
word Nike and go with the Swoosh alone. Nike went to the textless format
for U.S. advertising in March 1996 and 

[CTRL] Sexual Predator in Family Photo

1999-02-25 Thread Steve Wingate

 -Caveat Lector-

Alleged sexual predator Bill "Slick" Clinton in a family photo with alleged
victim Juanita Broaddrick:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/p/nm/19990225/ts/mdf59287.html


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Kat, u lil bugger, how are u?
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread Kathy Strucke

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In a message dated 2/25/1999 6:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Kat, u lil bugger, how are u? 
Dear Liz,
I am enjoying most of the stuff on this list, even tho some of it gives me the
willies!  You intrigued me with your forwarding so much that I just had to
subscribe!  Now, tell me the rest of your secrets!!
Love, Kathy

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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread Liz Schumacher

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dear Kat
in this list, when u hit reply to, or reply to all, doesnt matter, goes to the
whole list, unlike the artbellinfo list. I dont post much, theres some flaming
here, and indeed , i ,with my joking nature, may have been guilty of that(if
so, Andrew, I apologise-about the Camilla/morphing/ Rotweiler crack, as i do
believe  you are in some distress) But Kat , i guarrantee u will have a good
time here and many sites to explore!!
liz

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Mysterious epidemic investigated in Afghanista]

1999-02-25 Thread revcoal

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just been through a "mysterious" flu-like seige with one my dogs.
She is pretty tiny and I almost lost her. She was so congested, she
couldn't eat, yet the vet said her lungs were "clear."

FWIW. Marilyn, on a couple of other lists I'm on some of the participants,
in discussing this 'mystery flu' and the contrails, have mentioned their
pets (primarily dogs) coming down with a 'strange' dry, hacking cough
which lasts for some time, and for which no cause can seem to be
determined by the vets...


Last night, my second dog's nose started pouring clear liquid and my own
nasal passages were completely congested.

I haven't had a sinus infection in a couple of years, yet this year I've
had three...I find snorting concentrated salt water does the trick, albeit
more than a little painful at first...


I had started coughing, too. Gave us both
Pulsatilla and Colloidal Silver. I took Sambucol (don't know if
elderberry is safe for dogs).

Our dogs never had a problem with the homemade elderberry jelly my mother
used to make (they shared our PBJs g)...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta not argue J2

1999-02-25 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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Do you have the guts to come clean publicly?

WHO ARE YOU ?
Can you sponsor me in a Safe House ?, Offer political asylum ? or are you
part of some 'plot', paid for by [elvis, aliens, reptiles, Clinton or
Donald Duck]
to compromise me with a view to my incarceration and arrest in the UK in the
impending crisis of the Millenium ?
Equally, what credentials can you truly present me with that will convince
me and anyone else that YOU ARE NOT A SECRET AGENT trying to get me killed ?
So, since we cannot convince each other of our credentials - I have to advise
you to let the matter drop - even though I WILL NOT retract MY TRUTH.
The idea of 'How can we know anything' is called epistemological skepticism
and
was first iterated by Descartes - intellectuals often use it as a bottom line.
You see, although it applies to ME, it equally applies to YOU.

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Mysterious epidemic investigated (private)

1999-02-25 Thread Samatha 'Smith'

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In a message dated 99-02-25 09:21:18 EST, you write:

 1. Colloidal Silver--a pretty miraculous antibacterial, antiviral colloid
that you can buy in
 the health food store or make at home for yourself. (You should be able to
purchase
 this for about $15 for 4 oz. or you can contact me for directions how to make
it
 yourself.) 

Thank you for the tips.  I have some colloidal silver but didn't know
elderberry extract would be helpful and never heard of Pulsatilla.  I'd really
like to know how to make my own colloidal silver -- it's so expensive.
Thanks,
Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Could Noah's flood return? #1

1999-02-25 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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Laura wrote:
If there were a galactic stock market - what would we trade?  Why would
stock in
the earth be worth while?  Diamonds and gold are universal items.  The only
unique item the earth has is it's diversity of plants, animals, thoughts,
cultures, people.

Yes, I agree, I too have noted our 'Software', hardware, produce, artefacts
and genetic diversity are our greates assets ...
we are like Santas Gnomes - working hard to fill up the shops for deserving
aliens to acquire our fruits.

 That stock in Planet Earth went to an all time low before and so
someone decided to start the experiment from the beginning?  That they got
rid
of people like Bush, Clinton, Gore - so on and reseeded the Earth?  It is not
the Apocalypse the we may be worrying about.

Its possible that Planet Earth has a 'Geological Sell-By Date' and that
controlling interests are starting to wind up before Earth Crustal
Displacement
or some asteroid gives all us suckers left a hard time.
If we can assume antigravity then we can also assume elite colonies elsewhere.

Or they might just clean up the enviroment - that would include cleaning
up the
way of thinking, this current mind set.

The alleged Philadelphia Experiment - the translocation and dematerialisation
of matter ie. thousands of tons of steel in 1940's 200 miles East was
something which captured my imagination.
If it was true, then, they can reset the same machine to teleport millions
of tons of global warming Carbon Dioxide 200 miles UP - and could have done
so at any time EVEN SECRETLY - if they had wanted - if that experiment was
real.

Andrew Hennessey
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[CTRL] Antient Order of Santas Helpers

1999-02-25 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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What is life without a sense of humour ?
could this be the ultimate conspiracy - only the CTRL list can tell me :)

Andrew Hennessey

THE ANCIENT ORDER OF SANTAS HELPERS
The Secret Commonwealth  of Freegnomery.
t What is the Ultimate Conspiracy ?
t How quickly can you get to the big secrets and learn the meaning of life ?
t Why is the World the way it is ?
t Who or What is pulling the Strings ?
t Where and how can I get Help ?
t When is the payback ?


The ANSWERS to those questions can be found in the following pages for
those who have eyes to see 
THE  SECRET  COMMONWEALTH,
Of   FreeGnomery -
and The Ancient Order of Santas Helpers
 For 10,000 years and more the sound of busy little people hard at work has
been echoing through the lands of Santas Grotto. Chip,chip, hammer, hammer,
saw, saw, the busy little Gnomes have been helping Santa fill his sled,
seldom looking up at the stars or seeing the dawn, those happy little
people have been delving and burrowing, carving their happy little toys for
Santa, Their brightly painted toys bringing joy to the hearts of the
Children of the Galaxy
['Gnome wasn't built in a day - maybe two or three'   Technician  ELOHIM
GENETICS DEPT ]
[In his red suit and beaming red eyes, Satan/Santa claws says Ho Ho Ho as
he loads up his freighter ...]
Ho Ho Ho beams Santa, as his anti-gravity sled is loaded by Santas little
helpers - then he's off to the stars, his freighter downloading the EEC
winelake that he tasted himself, his face as red as his suit, or that
important collection of DaVincis for the little ET who has none.
And the little ET who wanted a trainset gets 100 Eastern Pacific
locomotives made on the Clyde - taken from storage in the Grotto where they
had been wrapped last century.  1
 Meanwhile, back at the workshop; Sleepy, Grumpy, Dozy and Manic, and the
Gnomesses work on through the centuries - watching TV, writing [under a
'gnome de plume'] and doing all those wonderfully silly things that made
their wives think that they didn't have a gnome to go to - out late on the
bevvy, fighting etc.
The Sacred Festival of Xmas gives the Gnomes the chance to blow off steam,
where they spend those little bits of gold dust  and when sometimes they
can help the Gnomeless by  giving them one or two of the nice things that
they hid instead of putting it on the Santas Sled.
§ Its Xmas every month in this Star Sector says Santa.
§ Here's a new order from planet Xorg - get busy.

 T  h  e   A n c i e n tO  r  d e r   ofSa n t a s He l p e
r s
 For 10,000 years and more the sound of busy little people hard at work has
been echoing through the lands of Santas Grotto. Chip,chip, hammer, hammer,
saw, saw, the busy little Gnomes have been helping Santa fill his sled,
seldom looking up at the stars or seeing the dawn, those happy little
people have been delving and burrowing, carving their happy little toys for
Santa, Their brightly painted toys bringing joy to the hearts of the
Children of the Galaxy.
Ho Ho Ho beams Santa, as his anti-gravity sled is loaded by Santas little
helpers - then he's off to the stars, his freighter downloading the EEC
winelake that he tasted himself, his face as red as his suit, or that
important collection of DaVincis for the little ET who has none.
And the little ET who wanted a trainset gets 100 Eastern Pacific
locomotives made on the Clyde - taken from storage in the Grotto where they
had been wrapped last century.
 'Gnome wasn't built in a day - maybe two or three'
Technician
ELOHIM GENETICS DEPT
 In his red suit and beaming red eyes, Satan/Santa claws says Ho Ho Ho as
he loads up his freighter .
  Why be a Free and Accepted Gnome
 For millenia, heads down, ears closed and eyes blinkered, the little
Gnomes have been getting well and truly screwed.
What funny lights in the sky Santa regularly says to the inquisitive Gnome
as his fleet of sleds take off  to rendezvous with the Galactic Shoppers.
 Truly the festival of Xmas is the parody of the Great Gnome   Cosmic
Sting - where we unknowingly act out the pantomime of ourselves being
conned to supply half the galaxy with luxury goods.
 But, we ask, does Santa have Claws, will we be made hungry and Gnomeless
...

 Each Gnome, Brother or Sister, each busy little craftsperson must assert
the rights of every Gnome. Never in the grotto of Human Industry has so
much been supplied by so many to so many .
WE MUST ASK SANTA FOR A SHARE OF THE PROFIT
HUMAN ADDED TAX  [HAT] can be imposed by the Gnome population - perhaps
retrospectively [oldHAT] - this would give our little brothers and sisters
the chance to afford a Company Interstellar Benefits package and travel
allowance.
 Will the little boys and girls of the galaxy start crying if Santas Gnomes
go on strike?
 Xmas is a happy time - tinsel, trees, faeries, lights, presents three wise
Unionists - following the glow of the mothership - we all come from the
same stable - but this could be the 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Mysterious epidemic investigated (private)

1999-02-25 Thread William Shannon

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Colloidal Silver is nothing but bunk!
Check out www.quackwatch.com for the lowdown!

Bill

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