Re: [CTRL] DLA
-Caveat Lector- earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hi CTRL, My friend Larry with the rock carvings pictures sent me this today.. Any idea as too what the DLA is..? His site http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8020/outofthisworld.html Hey Peter: Had a military hit on the rock site. It was the DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY - Headquarters. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DLA. Sounds like a bored cartridge counter doing a little net surfing on Uncle Sugar's time. Real carvings or not, I like the artwork. -- Mark McHugh DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Live From The Sun ... To Your Computer
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/06/1999 7:03:57 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Mark A. LeCuyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: Esa Science News November 5, 1999 Now Showing: Live From The Sun ... To Your Computer A new computer screen saver made available by the European Space Agency now allows computer users to watch spectacular, almost real-time images of our Sun. The images, coming directly from 1.5 million kilometres away in space, will flash on your computer screen courtesy of ESA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO). Every time your screen saver kicks in it will look, via the Internet, for the most recent images SOHO has sent to scientists. A few seconds, and the show begins. You will be able to witness exciting events as they happen on our star: huge expulsions of matter that scientists call Coronal Mass Ejections; sunspots, now growing in number as the Sun reaches the peak of activity in its 11-year cycle; and even the demise of the so-called sun-grazing comets, as they disappear forever into our star. Now, give a rest to your computer and enjoy the show live from the Sun. *Note: this screensaver will only work for PC's with Windows 95/98 To download, click on this url: http://www.estec.esa.nl/spdwww/soho/SohoScreens.exe -Mark- Alien Astronomer - Exploring Our Universe http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583 Astronomy, UFOlogy, Secret Societies, Hi-Tech Secret Projects We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Police State Is For Real
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: LeMaster Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1] Subject: The Police State Is For Real Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:44 PM **forwarded post** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The "police state" isn't just philosophical chatter anymore . . . Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tonight, during Halloween weekend, I went downtown in my small college town. There were police walking in and out of the bars all night--they'd stroll in, look around for smokers (it's illegal in California), walk through the bar to assert their presence and then leave. It's becoming a really common occurence in this town--holiday weekend or not. It got me thinking about my personal brushes with the law over the last year, and how it seems the police in my town (and in the news) are becoming more and more present in my life. I should note first that I'm White, 32, engaged, gainfully employed, and a homeowner. My hair is short (and getting shorter), I have no tattoos or piercings, and I generally shy away from clothing with slogans such as "by any means necessary," etc. In short, not the type of guy that usually meets the profile of a troublemaker. I mention these things not to blab about how fantastic a citizen I am, but just because I often wonder if I'M getting so much hassle, what about the folks who are little out of the ordinary in appearance or lifestyle? Here's a quick summary of my last year with the cops. There have been no beatings, no major incidents--I just want to show how the police in my town (and elsewhere) are becoming more and more a part of our lives, with more power to confiscate, question, and detain citizens. 1. By way of a press release, police informed citizens in our town that couches on porches are a fire hazard, and that they will be ticketed--and hauled away if necessary. 2. A few months ago, a friend borrowed my car on an errand and was pulled over for a minor traffic violation. She was informed that her license had been suspended for failing to pay a previous parking fine, and because she was non-licensed, MY car was confiscated by the police and impounded. 3. I do computer development and often work late nights. When I'm on the street late at night, I'm usually tailed and "profiled" by an officer about one out of three trips. Occasionally, cruisers will follow my car closely for ten or more blocks, including turns. Recently, a cruiser turned off its headlights while following me. I drive like a grandmother, so none have ever pulled me over. 4. This summer, my band was recording in a garage on the outskirts of town. The local Sheriff came out and informed us there'd been a noise call. We shut down, packed up, and started to BBQ with friends and family. The Sheriff returned with five deputies as backup, came into the homeowner's back yard and arrested the homeowner for noise violation. They also arrested two others for "drunk in public" (in a back yard?) but both requested blood-alcohol tests and were released after being booked and held for hours. The deputies also confiscated all of our music equipment and held it as "evidence" for three days. 5. Last Thanksgiving I and my fiancee drove six hours south so she could meet my parents for the holiday. On our return, we were stopped by a CHP and told that our car's registration was expired more than a year (it was). We were left on the side of the road at about 11 p.m, 50 miles from our home while the police first searched and then confiscated our car. (Nothing was found in the search but a bear claw donut on the dashboard) 6. My neighbor was walking to work at 5 am one morning, a time when our local streets are very dead. He made his usual shortcut (which required a short jaywalk across a one-way street in which traffic would have been visible for several blocks in either direction). A police cruiser had just passed by. The cop spotted my neighbor, and backed up three blocks going the wrong way on the one-way street to issue a jaywalking ticket. 7. At a local bar, my band had just finished a set when we heard some noise outside. Apparently a patron had stepped out of the bar holding a water glass, and three cruisers were out front assessing the situation. The bartender on duty apologized and the officers were ready to leave, when the bar owner's voice took on a tone that displeased one of the officers. Three officers went inside the club, went immediately behind the bar, and began shining flashlights through the liquor bottles searching for "contaminants." Two bottles were found to be contaminated, both of them top-shelf liquors. 9. After playing a gig at a local bar and having three beers in the process, I was driving home and found a cruiser on my tail, but hanging back a block or so. Not knowing if three beers would put me over the limit, I figured it
Re: [CTRL] OT: [THIS is SO COOL! --MS] TOTALLY FREE UNLIMITED INTERNETACCESS/E-MAIL (with NO BANNERS and 24/7 TOLL FREE, NO-WAIT TECH SUPPORT)
What about the company, is it reputable? Been around a long time? What would happen if it suddenly went bankrupt? I know there is a risk involve, just trying to minimize it. THANKS. Terry - Original Message - From: MICHAEL SPITZER To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT: [THIS is SO COOL! --MS] TOTALLY FREE UNLIMITED INTERNETACCESS/E-MAIL (with NO BANNERS and 24/7 TOLL FREE, NO-WAIT TECH SUPPORT) -Caveat Lector-YES! Good point...and they warn of exactly this several timesthrough the set up.ALSO: When you choose a USERNAME (or what ever they call it,e.g., "User I.D.," etc??) THIS WILL BE YOUR EMAIL ADDY, i.e.,[EMAIL PROTECTED]. In other words, pick your username withthis in mind!Let's see if there is any REAL downside to this deal. I kept theTech support dude on the line for 15 minutes DRILLING him aboutdown sides, and HE WAS GREAT, i.e., friendly, spent all kinds oftime with me, and HONEST (at least so I could tell???).Best to you all,MikeOn Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Bonnie Granat wrote: Hmm. I noticed the following on the access number page: Local Access Numbers To find a local access number, click on your state's name. Then find a local city, area code, and number. Remember, just because a number is in your area code, that doesn't mean it's a free call. Call your local phone company to make sure. -Original Message- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:26 PM Subject: CAS: OT: [THIS is SO COOL! --MS] TOTALLY FREE UNLIMITED INTERNETACCESS/E-MAIL (with NO BANNERS and 24/7 TOLL FREE, NO-WAIT TECH SUPPORT) WOW! I saw this new ISP (new as of a few days ago!) mentioned on a small segment of FOX Network's local 6:00 news broadcast here in AZ tonight. I just tested it out and am using as I type! This is a NO-STRINGS-ATTACHED NEW UNLIMMITED INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER! *THIS* IS WAY COOL! I got *INSTANT* (i.e., ZERO WAIT TIME) TOLL FREE TECH SUPPORT, THERE ARE NO BANNERS AT ALL, AND THEY ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A.T. T. TO PROVIDE LOCAL ACCESS NUMBERS IN ALMOST ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTRY!!! You can use your own computer based E-mail program or their web based program (5 MB of storage). At this time, they have no web page services (there are all kinds of companies now, e.g., www.netcenter.com, etc., that offer free web pages, however), and shortly they WILL offer web pages for their clients at a small monthly fee. The only catch is that when you go on-line, THEIR HOME PAGE OPENS ON YOUR BROWSER (and I must say, THERE ARE SOME SMOKIN' DEALS ON COMPUTERS, etc.), HOWEVER, simply close it out or start surfing and THERE IS NO MORE EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER OF "WORLDSPY" FROM THAT POINT ON!! I highly recommend signing onto their ISP service whether you keep your current ISP, or NOT (i.e., use this when your ISP is down, if for no other reason!). MERRY CHRISTMAS:) Mike P.S. Here's a bit of the copy from their sign up URL: Source: http://www.worldspy.com/freeisp/isp.html State-of-the-art service provided by MicroPortal.com, a nationwide Internet Service provider with hundreds of high-quality, high-speed 56K access numbers across the country. 24-Hour Toll-Free Customer Service Support No monthly membership fees, no setup fees, no maintenance fees, no annual dues. Save up to $20 per month ($240 per year)! Monthly specials and other great offers! Sign up now! To see if you're just a local call away from FREE Internet access, check our listing of Local Access Numbers now. Terms of Offer: Your use of WorldSpy.net is completely free. No purchase necessary. No strings. No membership fees. Period. We respect your privacy. We will never sell your personal information to any third parties without your permission. --end-- All I can say is that I AM IMPRESSED, LIKE A BIG DAWG! = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = == This mailing list is for discussion of
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Nov 99, at 20:55, Ric Carter wrote: # Expert warns against superbug 'epidemic' (BBC) A potentially fatal superbug which is resistant to many antibiotics has reached "epidemic" levels in UK hospitals, according to a public health official. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_505000/505710.stm And Prudy tells me that Colloidal Silver has just been declared useless and illegal and will no longer be sold in health food stores, etc. If you don't already know how to make it, I would research it on the web NOW and get those directions down before they all disappear-- that is, if they haven't vanished already. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Un Conference Bonn, Germany - Cathie Adams Reporting - Final
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Nov 99, at 23:15, Flat Rate Telephony, TODAY!! wrote: The UNFCCC COP 5 in Bonn, Germany has concluded. Delegates agreed to accept the scientific consensus that human activities are causing the earth to warm even though science has not proven the emotional claims. Alas, what they don't say is that it's the launching of all those satellites and space thingeys, along with corporate carelessness on a massive scale that is the major source of our environmental pollution... When they say "human activities" it suggests that it's ladies using aerosol cans and people driving their cars to work and someone forgetting tor recycle their soda cans. As if the general population were to blame rather than the governments and international corporations. As if there would be less polution if there were less of us rather than less of them. The usual doublespeak. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Failure
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Nov 99, at 0:47, Nicky Molloy wrote: The computer system used by the White House and top commanders to plan and execute major military missions has not proven ready for 2000, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday. With two months until the new year, the audit raises important questions about the military's preparedness to deal with the prospect that crucial computers could malfunction when their internal calendars roll over to 2000. How on earth are they gonna put the nation under martial law if their computers don't even work? Somehow I keep believing we will actually be saved by human error and incompetence. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- I think you need to remember that David Bowie made "The Man Who Fell to Earth" (considered a "classic" for at least 2 decadees) when the prospect of alien visitors still had a rosy glow--our infinitely wise, gentle space brothers come to help usand that film created a sort of "persona" for him that was VERY successful with the public. So in another sense, he was capitalizing on something that had worked for him. Then, I think, he had a sort of dry period. I suppose he had to come up with "something" to respark his career. I think he also pioneered the ultra-thin look...along with androgyny...Wasn't it called "Concentration Camp Glitter Rock" or something like that sno0wl On 5 Nov 99, at 22:26, Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-05 04:35:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I'm glad we cleared all that up. So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not? Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers, immersed in Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and THE pioneer of the "alien" look on stage. After awhile, one almost expected him to appear on stage doing a duet with a Grey ... The "Illuminati's" concept of who "Satan" is might not be what the rest of us expect ... The "medium" --Bowie as performer-- is the message, so don't bother looking for any "message" in his lyrics. Whatever is deemed meaningful by the literate left-hemisphere of the brain is a "straw dog" --something used mostly to misdirect and fixate conscious attention, "hypnotizing" the mind-- so that more important nonrational, nonverbal stimuli can penetrate the REAL target of "mind control," the right hemisphere's "unconscious." **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick "the crossing of the Abyss." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really Saying?
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Nov 99, at 9:07, earthman wrote: The Vatican, which has declared 2000 a Jubilee year, has scrupulously avoided linking the anniversary with millenarian aspirations, though security will be a constant concern during the year-long programme of events expected to draw millions of pilgrims to Rome. According to the Talmud, a Jubilee Year--which occurs in a multiple of 7 (7X7=Jubilee) indicates a year in which all debts are forgiven and all property reverts to its original owner(s). Does the Vatican really propose to cancel all debts and to return all that property it owns around the world to its original owners? Unless this is the Vatican's intention, the expression "Jubilee" year is virtually without meaning. I think we tend to associate Jubilee with a great celebration--which is not its actual meaning within religious tradition. (Although when this was really in practice, and people's debts were forgiven and they got their property back, I'm sure there was major revelling.) sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- AGREE! It is a point very important. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The "Illuminati's" concept of who "Satan" is might not be what the rest of us expect ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- I see which know about mind control. It is very interesting! On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The "medium" --Bowie as performer-- is the message, so don't bother looking for any "message" in his lyrics. Whatever is deemed meaningful by the literate left-hemisphere of the brain is a "straw dog" --something used mostly to misdirect and fixate conscious attention, "hypnotizing" the mind-- so that more important nonrational, nonverbal stimuli can penetrate the REAL target of "mind control," the right hemisphere's "unconscious." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- I dont know anything about Bowie but read a little bit about Crowley then please, talk more about Bowie. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick "the crossing of the Abyss." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TAINTED BLOOD SETTLEMENT
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! TAINTED BLOOD SETTLEMENT Hi All! Not only has the dominant media done a great job suppressing this tainted blood settlement update, the Patriot News Sources seem to have missed this one also http://www.ottawacitizen.com/national/990923/2897698.html Judge OKs hep C deal Ontario court rules $1.2 compensation sufficient Natalie Armstrong September 23, 1999 The Ottawa Citizen TORONTO -- An Ontario Superior Court judge approved a $1.2-billion federal-provincial compensation package for hepatitis C victims of tainted blood yesterday, following a judge in Quebec's approval earlier this week. That leaves only the province of British Columbia to rule on the package. Ontario Justice Warren Winkler voiced concerns at a hearing last month whether the proposed package would be enough to compensate about 10,000 tainted-blood victims, who contracted hepatitis C through transfusions between 1986 and 1990. But he ruled yesterday that the settlement, which amounts to $1.56 billion with interest, should be sufficient. It will pay victims according to how sick they are, with individual payments ranging from $10,000 to $1 million. "I always believed that this fund was sufficient, that's why we made the deal," Harvey Strosberg, lawyer for some of the class action plaintiffs, said late yesterday. Mr. Strosberg said that in the ruling the Ontario judge "specifically said that he's not concerned about that. That the risk of insufficiency is minimal." "He's called this plan progressive, forward-looking and imaginative -- those are important adjectives." The Ontario judge wanted three minor issues addressed including if and when a surplus of the fund will be dealt with. "He says they are not material issues," said Mr. Strosberg, adding there will be more hearings to discuss those factors. Mr. Strosberg said he believes money will be available to victims as early as January, depending on B.C. approval, which he expects "imminently." The settlement, however, will not be available to about 20,000 Canadians who contracted hep C from tainted blood before 1986 and after 1990. Now, Mr. Strosberg said, a yet-to-be appointed counsel and an administrator will embark on an advertising and information outreach program to notify potential class-action members of their rights. It will also inform victims that they can opt out if they want to pursue private claims. The settlement amount was also based on assumptions that a certain percentage of victims would opt out of the package and that only 70 per cent would come forward. "It ain't over until it's over, but we've gone a long way down the road today," said Mr. Strosberg, adding that lawyers' fees will be "the last thing the court deals with -- I think the judge found that the fund will be sufficient after he projected legal fees." **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:32 PM I cannot help but recall that the Pope and his America Bishops preached incessantly against the Gulf War...no Blood for Oil. Pope tips hand on his proposed Catholic-Islamic Alliance vs. "Modernism" coming New World Order? Lloyd Miller From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Pope and Saddam, Together in Babylon -Caveat Lector- Uh ... What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast? Iraq Agrees To Receive Vatican Team By AHMAD SAMI .c The Associated Press BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Baghdad has agreed to a visit by Vatican officials this month to prepare for the proposed pilgrimage to Iraq by Pope John Paul II, the country's most senior Christian clergyman said Monday. Rafael Bedaweed, the head of nearly 750,000 Iraqi Christians, said he expected the pope to make his trip around Jan. 20. It is the most definitive date reported yet for the visit, which has been mired in uncertainty since last month, when the state media published a scathing attack on the pope by several Iraqi scholars who said the pontiff should not expect Muslims to cheer him. The government has yet to issue a formal invitation. The United States, Britain and Iraqi opposition figures have expressed fears that President Saddam Hussein's government will use the visit to boost its international standing after years of isolation. Bedaweed, who met Vatican officials last month, said the pope was determined to go ahead with the trip to Ur, the ancient Sumerian city believed to be the birthplace of the biblical patriarch Abraham, revered by Christians, Muslims and Jews. The visit is part of a proposed tour of pilgrimage sites in the Middle East, linked to the celebrations in 2000 when the church marks the start of Christianity's third millennium. A Vatican official who organizes the pope's foreign trips is expected to arrive in Baghdad by mid-November, leading a delegation of other Vatican officials, Bedaweed said. The visit has been approved by the government, he added. Government officials were not immediately available for comment. Earlier Monday, Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramdan downplayed the significance of a visit by the pope. ``We welcome anyone who wants to visit our country,'' he said when asked whether the government was keen to have the pope in Iraq. But Bedaweed, the Chaldean Catholic patriarch, said official talks about the visit were going on between Iraq-based Nuncio Monsignor Giuseppe Lazarotto and Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. Asked whether John Paul will meet Saddam, Bedaweed said: ``There are diplomatic relations between Iraq and the Vatican. So the pope is coming as head of state. It's necessary that the pope visit our president.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive:
Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?
-Caveat Lector- It need be backuped by the Bible. Very much research too! I dont have formed opinion, yet. The Great Beast may be or may not be he! On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:15:06 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- Dear Rodrigo, Conjugal rights are what a married couple have. Peace be upon you, JAH. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ - Original Message - From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan -Caveat Lector- Hey! Interesting!! But please, explain to me a little thing... What do you mean about "sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger"? This verb... conjugating.. I dont know what is it... yet dont... Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers, immersed in Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and THE pioneer of the "alien" look on stage. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?
-Caveat Lector- They are the old and the new Babylons - Revelation 17:5 Read http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/robab.htm Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? -Caveat Lector- It need be backuped by the Bible. Very much research too! I dont have formed opinion, yet. The Great Beast may be or may not be he! On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:15:06 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- Jagger Bowie. h... Now I understand. Weird. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:26:31 -, JAH Publications wrote: Dear Rodrigo, Conjugal rights are what a married couple have. Peace be upon you, DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?
-Caveat Lector- Dear Lloyd, Please read http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/robab.htm Rome is the New Babylon in Revelation 17:5 and the Old Babylon was in Iraq. Two sides of the same coin. Peace be upon you, JAH. P.S. Tarik Aziz recently said on the news that the Vatican started in Iraq - Babylon. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:15 PM Subject: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? -Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:32 PM I cannot help but recall that the Pope and his America Bishops preached incessantly against the Gulf War...no Blood for Oil. Pope tips hand on his proposed Catholic-Islamic Alliance vs. "Modernism" coming New World Order? Lloyd Miller From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Pope and Saddam, Together in Babylon -Caveat Lector- Uh ... What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast? Iraq Agrees To Receive Vatican Team By AHMAD SAMI .c The Associated Press BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Baghdad has agreed to a visit by Vatican officials this month to prepare for the proposed pilgrimage to Iraq by Pope John Paul II, the country's most senior Christian clergyman said Monday. Rafael Bedaweed, the head of nearly 750,000 Iraqi Christians, said he expected the pope to make his trip around Jan. 20. It is the most definitive date reported yet for the visit, which has been mired in uncertainty since last month, when the state media published a scathing attack on the pope by several Iraqi scholars who said the pontiff should not expect Muslims to cheer him. The government has yet to issue a formal invitation. The United States, Britain and Iraqi opposition figures have expressed fears that President Saddam Hussein's government will use the visit to boost its international standing after years of isolation. Bedaweed, who met Vatican officials last month, said the pope was determined to go ahead with the trip to Ur, the ancient Sumerian city believed to be the birthplace of the biblical patriarch Abraham, revered by Christians, Muslims and Jews. The visit is part of a proposed tour of pilgrimage sites in the Middle East, linked to the celebrations in 2000 when the church marks the start of Christianity's third millennium. A Vatican official who organizes the pope's foreign trips is expected to arrive in Baghdad by mid-November, leading a delegation of other Vatican officials, Bedaweed said. The visit has been approved by the government, he added. Government officials were not immediately available for comment. Earlier Monday, Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramdan downplayed the significance of a visit by the pope. ``We welcome anyone who wants to visit our country,'' he said when asked whether the government was keen to have the pope in Iraq. But Bedaweed, the Chaldean Catholic patriarch, said official talks about the visit were going on between Iraq-based Nuncio Monsignor Giuseppe Lazarotto and Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. Asked whether John Paul will meet Saddam, Bedaweed said: ``There are diplomatic relations between Iraq and the Vatican. So the pope is coming as head of state. It's necessary that the pope visit our president.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- You said it. - Original Message - From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan -Caveat Lector- Jagger Bowie. h... Now I understand. Weird. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:26:31 -, JAH Publications wrote: Dear Rodrigo, Conjugal rights are what a married couple have. Peace be upon you, DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991107a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No holy hallucinogenic plants were patented to produce of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Jed Clampett folk art: http://www.buddyebsen.com/jed5.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Falun Gong members to be sent to slave camp. BEIJING - Thousands of Falun Gong followers who traveled to Beijing to protest the banning of their sect as an "evil religion" are likely to be sent, without trial, to a labor camp for up to three years. Remember that when you buy Chinese. www.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,500054341-500089345-500318929-0,00.html : Should your sect be sold into slavery? DO you like to buy products made by slaves? If you complain about product quality, are the slaves beaten?? @ Beyond facts - Can one teach spirituality in college? http://www.salon.com/books/it/1999/11/05/lastyear10/index.html @ "Priestess" Sinéad O'Connor abandons neo-Catholic celibacy vow: http://www.salon.com/health/sex/urge/world/1999/11/05/sinead/print.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Canadian Health Officials Pull Chinese Herbal Drugs. TORONTO (Reuters) Canadian health authorities have pulled five Chinese herbal medicines from store shelves because of fears an acid-producing herb, Aristolochia, could cause cancer, human cell mutations and kidney failure. Bummer... http://news.excite.com/news/r/991107/00/science-health-herbal # Amazon Group Wins Plant Patent Case. QUITO, Ecuador (Reuters) Amazonian indigenous peoples celebrated their victory over a U.S. businessman who patented a hallucinogenic vine that the Indians use in religious rites. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991107/00/science-environment-ecuador : What's your fave ritual herb? Are you cancerous? Are you hallucinating? Are you mutating? Do you appropriate ritual herbs? Are you cursed yet?? @ Out-of-brain experience: you are having one right now as you watch a movie in your head, currently starring SkeptiNews. Think of it as do-it-yourself virtual reality: http://www.sciam.com/1999/1199issue/1199reviews1.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ARE WE ASCENDING? If so, what are the signs? Who's helping us, and who's not? So are we ascending? I'd say yes. How do we know? Simple, just look at the many predictions that haven't come true. By now we should have had a lot more earthquakes; California should have been devastated by a major quake. Comet Lee, named the "King of Terror" by Nostradamos, was supposed to wreak havoc on earth, but once again, it came went without much ado. The fact that predictions are not coming true, are the signs that we are ascending. http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/ascending_article.html : Are you ascending? Am I? Are we all? Where to? Why? If we ascend, will we poke holes in the roof? Will the rain get in? Will everything be spoiled?? # Satellite Firm Offers Detailed Global Photos - see everything NOW!! http://news.excite.com/news/r/991107/00/science-space-spaceimaging _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Science Struggles With Faith, Authority. WASHINGTON (Reuters) In 1500, if you wanted to know something about the world around you, it was wise to ask the Church, as Galileo found out to his dismay. Or did he? http://news.excite.com/news/r/991107/00/science-millennium-science : Was Galileo suppressed because be was a dangerous rebel, or just because he was an arrogant asshole? Have you read Koestler's biography? D'ya care? @ "It's a technological solution to the nonexistence of God; It makes us feel like our calendars are counting something." Y2k, the song: http://members.aol.com/tmshaw/y2k/y2k.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Cultural/Economic Barriers to Protecting Children from Ritual Abuse Mind Control. How are we to understand phenomena of ritual abuse in the 1990's? Throughout the Western world, increasing numbers of therapists helping professionals are hearing accounts from children as young as 2 adults into their 90s describe mind-numbing accounts of abuses consisting of sexual sadism and pornography, physical torture, and highly sophisticated psychological manipulation which, taken together, we have come to refer to as ritual abuse. http://members.tripod.com/~Curio_5_/gould.html : Do you engage in ritual abuse? Is it fun? Are you a member of an organized group? Who do you abuse? Who don't you abuse? Should you be abused too? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RITUAL SACRIFICE OF EGYPT AIR 990. A pattern of Egyptian motifs re: New York City - the "West Nile" virus, the "Black Madonna", the "Old Kingdom" artifacts display at the Met - indicates that EA990 was ritually killed. Numerological confirmation: http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm : Have you ritually sacrificed any airliners lately? Do you sexually abuse them first? How do you
[CTRL] HAWAIIS GUN CONTROL: FORMULA FOR MASS MURDER
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization November 4, 1999 HAWAIIâS "GUN CONTROL": FORMULA FOR MASS MURDER Looking for the formula for mass murder? Here it is: Person with evil intent to kill many people + Any deadly weapon + Guarantee that the intended victims canât fight back + Expectation that the police wonât prevent the killing = Mass murder. All of these elements combined in Hawaii on November 2. For whatever reason, the man wanted to kill a bunch of people at the Xerox building. It doesnât matter what his reasons were, because his evil intent to kill was enough to propel him into action. Although it was illegal for the man to possess firearms because of his criminal record, he obtained the firearms. Hawaiian and federal "gun control" laws did not prevent him from getting the deadly weapon. Dedicated criminals always manage to get deadly weapons -- even when they are locked up in prisons. Hawaiian "gun control" laws so strongly discourage personal possession of firearms that peaceful law- abiding people working in a Xerox office building would almost certainly not carry a firearm with them to work. Ordinary Hawaiians face huge legal risks of fines and imprisonment if they are caught carrying a firearm without a permit, and the permits are hard to get. The Xerox company likely also forbade carrying weapons in the workplace, so the people faced the additional risk of losing their jobs if they carried a defensive weapon. The man intending mass murder could be practically certain to find his victims unarmed and undefended. Although the intended victims were likely near a telephone, and perhaps could call the police, the criminal might have figured there was no reason to expect the police to arrive until after the killing started. To compound the problem for the victims, the police in Hawaii owe no legal duty to protect any specific individual(s) from criminal attack. The intending killer could expect to face no police interference with his homicidal plan. As with all of the other multiple killings that have been publicized in the last two years, the killer(s) could trust that the victims were disarmed and undefended. "Gun control" laws, anti-firearms policies and gun-phobic culture cleared the way for the killer to attack without fear. Dial 911 emergency telephone service was either unavailable or worthless to prevent these killings. You will hear the gun prohibitionists calling for even more "gun control" laws. They will say that even Hawaiiâs laws are not "strong enough." The fact is, Hawaiian "gun control" made it possible for the killings to occur. Donât forget the lesson that Israel learned, as described by Dr. Schiller in his interview on the JPFO website. Once Israel started arming school officials and guards, the terrorist attacks on Israeli schools ended abruptly. Once ordinary Israelis were permitted to carry concealed weapons in public places, the terrorist shooting attacks in public stopped almost entirely. A child could figure out this logic. Even popular talk host Dr. Laura Schlessinger this year changed her mind about civilian gun possession, when she fully realized that "gun control" means victim disarmament. So long as society requires that the people be unarmed when facing criminal attack, the attacks will keep coming. One wonders: do the gun prohibitionists really want criminals to be stopped? * * * Police protection failed in Hawaii on November 2, and then again just the next day in Washington State when another killer attacked unarmed people. In a nationally broadcast statement, a police department spokesperson said that witnesses to the November 3 Washington State attack had dialed 911 ... and the police arrived too late to catch the criminal. It is time to destroy the foundation of "gun control" by smashing the myth of police protection. Get the intellectual ammunition to do that by ordering the new book, DIAL 911 AND DIE, only $11.95 postage paid. Just click on our website at http://www.jpfo.org/ and follow the signs to get more information and order the book today. The Liberty Crew at JPFO Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership PO Box 270143 Hartford, Wisconsin 53027 Phone: 262-673-9745 **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and
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FYI: The following new reports have been posted at the ScienceWeek website: Science Media Mayhem: The Angiostatin-Endostatin-EntreMed Bubble Condensed Matter: Magnetoelectronics Astrophysics: Cosmological Antigravity Molecular Biology: Telomerase and Cell Immortality Medical Biology: Cancer and the Enigmas of Kaposi's Sarcoma Evolution: On Human Origins These reports are from back issues of ScienceWeek. They can be accessed without charge from the main web page in the panel to the right of the SW table of contents: http://www.scienceweek.com A Reminder: The SW website now contains a local search engine that can be used to search the archive of back issues of SW and bring up located reports on the screen. Access to this search engine is free and available at several places on the main web page or directly at http://www.scienceweek.com/search/search.htm The Editors ScienceWeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scienceweek.com
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From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, Huckabee denied Sharline clemency last year despite no objections from law enforcement and the parole boards recommendation to release. We call Huckabee Slick Willy Jr. He's a Clinton/Bush bootlicker. Huckabee was recently chairman of the U.S Leauge -- formerly headed by Gen.Singlaub, in association with Oliver North to raise funds for the Contras. Huck publicly ridicules anyone that mentions Mena or ANY Clinton/Bush scandal. The only difference between him and Clinton is, Huck can keep his britches zipped up. Jean Duffey, one of Sharline's attorneys will post a brief update Monday. History: * No clemency for woman in drug case http://www.idmedia.com/no-clemency-for-sharlene.htm * Free Sharlene Wilson -- today http://www.WorldNetDaily.com/btlines/971208.btl.SCANDAL.Corruption.Clinton.Arkansas.SharleneWilson.Prison.Harmon.Cocaine.Boys.GovHuckabee.html * We're Having An Effect http://www.idmedia.com/having-an-effect.htm * DEFENDANTS' STATEMENT OF MATERIAL FACTS http://www.idmedia.com/lc-statement-facts-short.htm * Jane Chastain Affidavit http://www.idmedia.com/chastain-affidavit.htm * Sharline Wilson's chances for clemency likely destroyed http://www.idmedia.com/sharline-chances-destroyed.htm mark === David Goldman wrote: From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] From www.idmedia.com. I wonder who and what's behind this...Dubya and Republican Huckabee Also, what is the history behind all of this? David Goldman Saturday, November 6, 1999 Harmon friend to be released from sentence ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE Gov. Mike Huckabee on Friday commuted the sentence of Sharlene Wilson, 45, former girlfriend of ex-prosecutor Dan Harmon. Wilson's 31-year sentence for two counts of delivery of a controlled substance was shortened to the time she already has served. Wilson was arrested in Hot Spring County in 1992 while Harmon was prosecutor for the 7th Judicial District, which included Saline, Grant and Hot Spring counties. Wilson was convicted in 1993. In announcing the commutation, Huckabee said law enforcement officials of the district did not object. Harmon was convicted by a federal court jury in Little Rock in 1997 of five of 11 felony charges of racketeering, extortion and drug conspiracy. In 1993, Wilson told Saline County Sheriff Judy Pridgen that Harmon was one of several men involved in the deaths of two Saline County teen-agers who were found dead on railroad tracks in the county 10 years ago. No one has been charged in those slayings. Wilson later recanted her statement. Copyright © 1999, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Inc. All rights reserved. Home --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a
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From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, January 26, 1998 Papers link Huckabee to U.S. league BILL SIMMONS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE In 1994, 1995 and 1996, while he was Arkansas' lieutenant governor and was being paid $61,500 on the side by Action America Inc. for making speeches, Mike Huckabee had a little-known involvement in another organization. It was the United States League for Freedom and Democracy, incorporated in New Jersey and headquartered at East Orange, N.J., as one of 140 chapters around the world of the World League for Freedom and Democracy, billing itself as a pro-democracy Communist-fighting organization. The world league is the successor organization to the Asian Pacific Anti-Communist League founded in 1954 and which grew in 1967 to become an intercontinental organization, according to papers provided by the U.S. league's secretary-general, W. Bruce Potter of East Orange, N.J. The U.S. league had been known earlier under several names, dating to the 1960s. Potter became Huckabee's original link with the league in 1993 after Huckabee became lieutenant governor. A friend of Huckabee and Potter told Huckabee about Potter and suggested they get acquainted, Huckabee spokesman Rex Nelson said last week. They met, became friends, and Huckabee became a member of the U.S. league. All league "members" serve on a voluntary basis, without pay. They participate in league activities as speakers and present their thoughts as lecturers to college programs and to meetings conducted by the national and world leagues. After getting to know Potter, Huckabee became a trustee of the U.S. league and chairman of the league in both 1995 and 1996, according to papers supplied by Potter. Huckabee was honorary chairman of a league conference at the United Nations in 1995, was speaker at a world league conference in Moscow in the Russian Federation in 1996 and attended a world league conference in 1995 in Taipei, Taiwan. Huckabee's expenses and accommodations for those trips were financed by one or more of the leagues, Potter and Nelson said. Neither Nelson nor Potter would say last week how much was spent on the trips. Several other questions were not answered after being submitted by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. After becoming governor in July 1996, Huckabee gave up his role in the league because he no longer had time for it, Nelson said. Though little-known, Huckabee's involvement in the league was not utterly unknown in Arkansas. On Jan. 21, 1995, the Democrat-Gazette reported that Huckabee, then lieutenant governor, was leaving for the world league meeting in Taiwan. Because then-Gov. Jim Guy Tucker was in Texas on a quail hunt, Huckabee's departure for Taiwan allowed state Sen. Stanley Russ, D-Conway, to become acting governor during the two top state officials' absences. His connection with the organization was briefly cited in 1996 in a weekly newspaper, Arkansas Times. As lieutenant governor, Huckabee's office also had contact with Potter and the U.S. league by way of the taxpayer-financed telephones in the lieutenant governor's office in 1994, 1995 and 1996. Telephone records show about 30 calls from Huckabee's office to Potter and the league. The calls usually were brief and the costs slight -- for example, 16 calls in 1995 totaled $5.21, and $1.67 eight calls in 1996. Most of the calls were to a number that connects with the league's fax machine, though a few were to Potter's line at the East Orange welfare office. Huckabee spokesman Nelson said that since the two men were friends, there might have been any number of topics discussed, or articles faxed, during their communications. The U.S. league is a tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Service code, Potter said. In the U.S. league's informational tax reform, Form 990, for Dec. 20-31, 1993, Huckabee -- address State Capitol, Little Rock, Arkansas -- is listed as one of 17 trustees of the league. Potter is another. The organization reported total revenues of $4,897 and expenses of $5,117. The organization's Form 990 for 1994 listed Huckabee and the other 16 again as trustees. Total revenues were reported as $5,158. Expenses were reported at $4,534. But in years when the U.S. league has more substantial activities, it also has more resources. In 1995, it was host to a world league conference at the United Nations and reported $164,189 in revenue and expenses of $30 under revenue total. Almost all of the U.S. league's revenue that year came from the world league. Potter signs the Form 990 returns. The league has little public presence in New Jersey. A half-dozen reporters and editors at newspapers in the state recently told the Democrat-Gazette they hadn't heard of either the organization or Potter. The U.S. and world leagues
[CTRL] [1] Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.enterprisemission.com/bismark.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.enterprisemission.com/bismark.htm"bismark/A - The Enterprise Mission Will "X" Mark The Date? (Or: "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland") Part 1 of 2 CONTACT INFORMATION: MICHAEL BARA [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note - I am not able to respond to all e-mails, but I will read them -- MB) RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - The Enterprise Mission P. O. Box 1130 Placitas NM 87043 FAX - (505) 771-0820 © 1999 THE ENTERPRISE MISSION Ok, just to get you caught up ... A lot of you have been writing in the last few weeks since Enterprise principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland's appearance on the August 18th, 1999 Art Bell show. During this program, we discussed a variety of topics, mostly centered on the "NASA Caveman" story (a NASA programmer had holed up in cave because he had been told by other NASA workers that Comet Lee would impact in the Atlantic at any moment). We also brought up the astonishing images of "something near the Sun" -- apparently orbiting in the Taurid Stream -- captured during the August 11th, 1999 eclipse. The next day, we received an anonymous call that claimed that there were three objects headed for a direct collision with the Earth on "November 7th." Then, as we were trying to assemble all of those little symbolic pieces into a coherent whole, we were broad sided (Well, not exactly -- we were paying attention) by the latest astonishingly predictive salvo from our newest friend in Hollywood, Chris Carter. The season finale from his hit show The "X-Files" not only seemed to indirectly reflect our ideas about what was going on "behind the scenes," but also had the added symbolic benefit of continuing the cliff hanger on that same date - November 7th. Quite frankly, we have been inundated with information from a variety of quarters, intelligence sources, average citizens and even members of the "quiet establishment" in NASA and academia. This report is our attempt to put what we have learned, and what we suspect, on the table for you. As we stated back in August, the November 7th date is interesting to us because it is very near a "ritual date," a date of special significance to the "cabal" that we believe exists in and around NASA, the Sirius worshipers at FEMA, and selected other government agencies (actually November 6th, the beginning of the fall passage through the Taurid meteor stream. Remember, even though it may be the 6th in one part of the world, it may already be the 7th across the international dateline). We have assumed for some years that a "special event" was planned around this date and were quite concerned last year that we might have a "problem" when this date came around again. This scenario is still one we find plausible, if not compelling. We have known for a long time -- several years in fact -- that the architects of the cabal that has grown like a cancer within many government agencies (like NASA) since their birth after World War II, are apparently overwhelmingly obsessed with fulfilling a literal "Armageddon Script!" "While the rest of the world has been fighting gooks and commies, these men have been secretly negotiating a planned Armageddon." - Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil, from "X-Files - Fight the Future" "The Plan," as we like to call it here at Enterprise (after our initial detection and persistent tracking of the increasingly obvious "clues" now, over many years), is being assiduously executed even now behind the scenes in many of those same agencies (NOT just NASA/JPL) -- with obviously significant consequences for all the rest of us denied access to the underlying rationale (if not the data behind that rationale), still tightly held by the "cabalists" themselves. And the eclipse objects and mysterious phone message, with it's "correct" date and target (off the African West coast - See "Inside Source" provides Details of "Impact Events") fit this scenario perfectly. In fact, a little too perfectly. Within a day or so of that broadcast we began to get suspicious we were being taken for a ride. Enterprise principal investigator Richard Hoagland quickly realized that the objects were far too bright to be real objects in the so-called "Beta Taurid Stream," currently orbiting on the far side of the Sun but headed for the Earth. There was also the problem of "Object C" (as the Millennium Group report had dubbed it). It actually seemed to be between the Moon and Earth, taking it far away from the path of the Taurid Stream. He also did a preliminary calculation of the orbital path of the supposed "Taurid objects" from the official NASA Eclipse video (shot from a site in Turkey -- see below) and concluded (assuming we were supposed to take them as "real") that they might
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RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - The Enterprise Mission
P. O. Box 1130
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FAX - (505) 771-0820
© 1999 THE ENTERPRISE MISSION
When we last left you (see "Will 'X' Mark the Date?"), we reported that our
main intelligence contact, John Maynard, had suffered an apparent heart
attack. We are pleased to report that John has returned home and is resting
comfortably. While there is quite a bit of information to dispense about his
rather bizarre experience (see below), he has felt well enough to correct us
on a couple of matters.
The two scientists he met with in London were not research assistants for
Matt Genge, but rather independent ESA scientists. John's initial meeting on
September 2nd, 1999 included only one of these two scientists. He met with
the two of them near London on September 16th, 1999, the same day Genge was
giving his paper at the British Festival of Science in Sheffield. They named
Genge at that time as another scientist who was working on "the problem." So,
while we had some of the dates and exact circumstances surrounding these key
meetings confused (because of John's sudden unavailability last week for
consultation), he has now confirmed that our account of the critical content
of those meetings was otherwise correct.
For what it is worth, Dr. Genge himself has (apparently via e-mail)
subsequently confirmed our corrections above:
Subject: Re: Are they coming???
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:57:47 +
From: Matthew Genge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Sir,
Rest easy in your bed. I don't know if Richard Hoagland believes this or if
this is just a joke but no asteroids have been identified that will impact
the Earth.
There are a few inaccuracies in the website: (1) I am myself a postdoc and
don't have any research assistants, (2) I work at the Natural History
Museum which is locked up by 10 pm and so there would be no one here at
midnight to receive a telephone call, (3) I haven't got any ESA contacts and
(4) the images of the eclipse show a solar protrusion not an asteroid!
An asteroid or comet will hit the Earth in the future but no threat objects
have yet been identified. We don't know when let alone where such an event
will occur, the best we can do is say there will probably be another Tunguska
in the next 100 years.
Regards,
Matt Genge
Dr Matthew J. Genge
Researcher (Meteoritics)
Department of Mineralogy, The Natural History Museum
Cromwell Road, London SW7 5BD, UK.
Tel: Int + 020 7 924 5581
Fax: Int.+ 020 7 924 5537
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Staff internet page http://www.nhm.ac.uk/mineralogy/genge/genge.htm
It should be noted that John's corrections above were received prior to this
e-mail from Genge. As to the stated "inaccuracies;" the reference in our
previous story to the effect that John had called the museum around midnight
London time was my surmise from his e-mail. I have in fact confirmed with
John that his call was around 9:30 PM London time, not midnight, so his call
and John's version of the response he received is not necessarily at odds
with Genge's statement regarding the operating hours of the museum. We take
issue with his claim that he does not have "any ESA contacts." For one thing,
it is highly implausible that someone in his position would not occasionally
cross paths with a peer from the space agency and develop a relationship or
two. Further, we hardly expected him to confirm our assertions or acknowledge
his private discussions on this subject. It is possible that John's contacts
simply meant that Genge was working on the broader concept of asteroid
impacts (which he demonstrably is), rather than claiming he had specific
knowledge of the "November scenario." However, given John's description of
the late night call to his office and the timing of Genge's presentation
coinciding with John's second meeting in London, we find that a little
unlikely. As to point (4), we never claimed that the images were of an
asteroid -- we expressed our belief that they were a solar prominence -- so
on this matter we are in agreement with Dr. Genge as well.
We have also not yet addressed the actual content of Dr. Genge's
presentation. We found it worthy of note that his interview and the news
stories covered objects the size of 100 meters ("Tunguska sized") or less. As
Genge himself stated, we are in a window (about every 100 years) of high
probability of an impact from one of these sized objects right now. In a way,
this is good news. If Genge does have inside
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"This was no boating accident!"
- Richard Dreyfus, "Jaws" - 1975
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Egypt Air logo of Horus the Falcon god.
The crash of Egypt Air flight 990 out of New York in the early morning hours
of October 31st, 1999 has sparked a huge amount of interest and speculation
in both the general media and in relation to our "November 7th" scenario.
While the early trend of the news is to point at the thrust reversers as the
most likely culprit, we have uncovered a wealth of information that has led
us to conclude that not only is the situation more complex than the media is
willing to acknowledge, it is also far more ominous for our own
circumstantial case vis-à-vis the 7th. In fact, the story is so flush with
symbolic linkages and data anomalies that it may never be satisfactorily
explained. Much like the case of TWA 800, Egypt Air 990 appears destined
never to rest fully in peace. Like that storied ghost ship out of New York
from three summers ago, there are just too many conflicts between what is the
clear direction of the "official" investigation and the facts.
Let one of us [Mike Bara] start by relating my own expertise in this field,
such as it is. I was employed by Boeing as a structural designer for more
than 14 years, and worked on every major commercial (and some military)
vehicle that the company produced, including the 767. I also spent some time
on the 767 engine program in the Power Plant and Strut group. In addition, my
father worked at Boeing for more than 43 years, much of it spent in crash
investigation and more than 20 years in material fire safety. On many
occasions, he shared with me the results of these crash investigations and we
had many discussions over the years on the causes of air fatalities and their
possible prevention. He testified before congress on the subject and
essentially wrote most of the FAA regulations on fire and materials safety.
He spent the better part of his adult life trying to make air travel safer
and crash situations survivable, so I have to admit that my blood boils when
I see airplanes that have clearly been shot out of the sky by a missile
blamed on "design flaws" by the company he and I once worked for.
At first glance, the in-flight deployment of one or both of the engine thrust
reversers seemed a plausible explanation for the data that has been released
regarding this crash. However, new radar data released by the NTSB has shown
that the plane descended all the way from 33,000 feet to 17,000 feet, then
climbed back up to 24,000 feet before apparently breaking apart (due to
stresses, it was nearly supersonic at one point) as it attempted to turn for
New York. At that point, the plane suddenly pointed straight down again and
plunged into the ocean. It was almost as if the hand of God had reached out
and slapped the plane down, then when it didn't "die" slapped it down again
to finish the job. Almost immediately, government officials tried to impugn
the data, despite the fact that it had come from the same Air Force team that
had investigated TWA-800 and the JFK Jr. crashes.
What is less clear is just what may have caused this. Thrust reverser
deployment would not have accounted for this sort of behavior, and in any
event the thrust reverser problems alluded to in the news reports were
"fail-safed" (made at least double redundant) years ago. We have suspicions
as to what may have happened but for the moment what is more important to us
is not so much what caused this crash (see below), but just how it happened
to occur at the exact date, time and place that it did. That, as we stated
above, becomes more complex when you examine all the data on the table ...
As many of you are well aware, we have been somewhat hair triggered lately to
be on the lookout for any news items relating to "Egypt" -- and especially
any sort of Egyptian connection to New York City. Besides the vagaries of
"West Nile Virus" and the "Black Madonna" controversy that we reported on in
"Will 'X' Mark the Date?," there have been some other curiosities in the news
lately ...
There was an additional Egyptian connection to New York City that we did not
allude to in that article due to time constraints. Currently, at the famed
New York Metropolitan Museum of Art ("The Met")
[CTRL] Cheese Ball and Veggie dip recipes..good for holiday entertaining !!!
-Caveat Lector- [Unable to display image] FAVORITE CHEESE BALL 1 8 oz pak of kraft cream cheese 1 stick margarine 1 jar of Ole English cheese spread (kraft in the little jars ) 1 tbsp liquid smoke 7 slices of bacon..crisp fried and crumbled in small pcs 2 -3 tbsp chopped green onion tops chopped walnuts Mix all together except for walnuts..I use microwav to soften the cheeses and margarineplace in covered bowl in frig to set up.when ready to form into a ball or log...wet hands and shake off excess water..scoup cheese mixture with hands and formimmediately roll in chopped walnuts and put on serving plate...garnish with whole walnuts if you desire.. Serve with a variety of crackers, or veggies...they go fast; usually make a bunch of these to give away at Xmas for small gifts... ALSO !!. found this oldie but goodie dip recipegot it from a freind of mine in St Louis years and years ago.. Terry's Veggie Dip 8 oz cream cheese 2 oz crumbled bleu cheese 1 small chopped onion...real finely chopped 1 tbsp Worchestershire sauce 1/3 cup soy sauce 1 pt HELLMANS mayonnaise..gotta be this brand to be good !!! Mix by hand the first 5 ingredients; then add mayokeep in frigthis is the best veggie dip I have ever tasted in my life !!! I use broccali, celery, baby carrots or sticks, cuke slices, squash spears, cauliflower and arrange on a tray for the holidays..there is never any leftovers !!! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hanoi Jane' Rumors Blend Fact and Fiction
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Advocacy And Intelligence Index For Prisoners Of War/Missing In Action, Inc. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Bob Necci and Andi Wolos THE POW/MIA E-MAIL NETWORK (c) aiinov05.99a David Emery - your About.com Guide to: Urban Legends and Folklore http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm Content: Welcome | Netlinks | Articles | Guide Bio | Search | Related TalkAbout: Forums | Chat | Events | Newsletter | Share This Site | Join ShopAbout: ShopNow | Books | Videos 'Hanoi Jane' Rumors Blend Fact and Fiction Dateline: 11/03/99 Email rumors blending fact and fiction about Jane Fonda's activities as an anti-war protester during the 1970s have reopened old wounds for Vietnam veterans and inspired a new round of recriminations for things the actress did long ago, and things she never did. The rumors (see next page) center around Fonda's tour of North Vietnam in 1972, during which she cozied up to the enemy, posing for photo ops with communist troops and broadcasting anti-American propaganda over Radio Hanoi. During the same trip she participated in a staged press conference with American POWs, the purpose of which was to demonstrate that they were not being mistreated by their captors. Years later when the released POWs described the torture and degradation they really did suffer at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Fonda called them "hypocrites and liars." These acts, considered treasonous by some, earned Fonda the nickname "Hanoi Jane" among the veterans and POWs of that war, some of whom hate her to this day. Since the '70s Fonda has revamped her image several times over, rededicating herself to her acting career, becoming a fitness guru in the early '80s, and marrying billionaire Ted Turner in 1991. In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established a distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless." As the '90s progressed Fonda's past was less frequently brought up as an issue and seemed to dwindle in importance â until this year, that is, when Barbara Walters chose to honor the actress in a TV special called "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women." The announcement of the program â which aired in April 1999 and did honor Jane Fonda â prompted an instant outcry from veterans and ex-POWs, many of whom vented their indignation via the Internet. Angry recriminations were posted in newsgroups, published in newsletters and on Web pages, and shared by email. Bits and pieces of these texts, along with a few shameless fabrications, were cobbled together by persons unknown to create the "Hanoi Jane" diatribe which still circulates today. Parts of it are true and parts of it are false. Continued on Page 2 'Hanoi Jane' Rumors Blend Fact and Fiction (Continued from Page 1) Though we don't know precisely when versions of the "Hanoi Jane" message first began making the rounds (presumably among veterans and military personnel), they found their way into general circulation in early September. Each of the versions I've seen exhibits slight variations in format and wording, and in some cases added comments and/or deletions. Jon E. Dougherty, a columnist for WorldNetDaily, saw fit to quote a version of the message virtually intact in his September 15 column entitled "Not saluting Jane Fonda." Interestingly, Dougherty's piece, complete with his own commentary, was copied and distributed by readers and quickly established itself as another popular variant of the already-circulating text. Below is a representative example of the basic message. Bear in mind that only part of what you're about to read is true (see next page for analysis). Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as of the "100 Women of the Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately may have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our "country" but the men who served and sacrificed during Viet Nam. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged
Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really Saying?
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Russian Follies Mutiny in Russia Yeltin is "shocked." But the corpse fails to stir. A DRAMATIC mutiny threat by Russia's generals has forced Boris Yeltsin to keep fighting the war in Chechnya, it was claimed last night. The officers warned they would resign en masse if the Kremlin heeded demands by Western leaders, including Tony Blair, to halt hostilities. Army chief of staff General Anatoly Kvashnin confronted Yeltsin on his hotline when the president was on holiday at the Black Sea. Faced by this insubordination, a "shocked" Yeltsin rushed back to Moscow. His sudden return on Wednesday had puzzled observers. But yesterday's account in the Russian media, citing Kremlin sources, casts worrying light on the balance of power in Russia. It suggests Yeltsin is not in control of the war. "Army chief of staff Anatoly Kvashnin was ready to step down and he's not the only one," said Moskovsky Komso-molets newspaper. Senior officers were not ready to see their forces make another humiliating retreat from Chechnya, as they did in 1996. But the two most senior officials in the Kremlin, Vladimir Voloshin and his deputy Sergei Prikhodko, had been secretly paving the way for a dialogue with the Chechens. They were said to be alarmed at the "negative image of Russia in the West". Yesterday Russian forces pounded Chechnya with even more intensity. For the second day refugees were allowed to leave the province. The Express, November 5, 1999 Suspicious Genes Police Chiefs Want DNA Samples from All Suspects Can I deliver mine on the front of Monica Lewinsky's dress? CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (AP) -- The International Association of Police Chiefs says it will urge Congress to require that DNA samples be taken from every person arrested in connection with a crime. Civil rights advocates say that could violate the privacy of innocent people. Typically, DNA samples are taken only from felons convicted of violent crimes. But the chiefs on Wednesday proposed that arrested suspects -- whether linked to petty theft or murder -- also should be required to give DNA samples, which would go into a nationwide FBI database and be made available to law enforcement agencies across the country. "It's indeed a brave new world," Barry Steinhardt, associate director of the American Civil Liberties Union, said Thursday. "We're talking about people who are accused of a crime, but they have not yet had their day in court. A sizable number of them will never be convicted." In July, the Justice Department's National Commission on the Future of DNA Evidence decided to oppose mandatory DNA testing for anyone charged with a crime. However it urged federal and state prosecutors to use DNA evidence that could exonerate convicts. DNA, an acid that contains an individual's genetic makeup, is found in almost every cell in the body. Except for identical twins, each person's DNA is unique. The chiefs did not say what their proposal would cost, but they called it another step forward in DNA technology, which has been credited with clearing dozens of people convicted of murder and rape in recent years. "With modern technology, we can do a much better job of protecting our citizens and exonerating the innocent," said Michael Robinson, director of the Michigan Department of State Police and incoming association president. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Darrel Stephens said he agreed that the FBI's DNA database of convicted violent felons has been invaluable, but he said the idea of sampling suspects could intrude on the privacy of people who might never be convicted of a crime. He said DNA collection should be limited "to specific kinds of arrests, such as for violent crimes or breaking into someone's home." The Associated Press, November 6, 1999 Asset Forfeiture Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act Don't buy bread. Your baker may traffic in drugs. Last Thursday, October 28, H.R. 3164, the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act, was introduced in the House, and it was passed by the House on Tuesday November 2 -- just four working days later! This horrible bill (read the complete text for yourself and see-- it's now up on the FEAR website) authorizes federal law enforcement agencies to create a black-list of foreign drug traffickers (no due process is given to those whose names are placed on the list). And then it imposes lengthy felony sentences, huge fines and property seizures for anyone who does business with those persons -- even the totally innocent provision of goods or services to those blacklisted persons. A companion bill has already been introduced in the Senate, as S. 1009, and is being hotly fought in the Senate Intelligence Committee. The Senate bill is not yet published on the Thomas website, so we don't know what's in it. Somehow this bill slipped past us and was passed in
[CTRL] A Ride in the IRS Taxi
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 43/A - November 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 43 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - A Ride in the IRS Taxi by Sunni Maravillosa As if the public school system isn't proof enough that the United States federal government officials are working hard to indoctrinate young people with their collectivist mindset, the Internal Revenue Service has really provided the last straw. It's a beauty, tooa more blatant propaganda than one usually finds. The IRS has developed an "online interactive web site", Tax i (http://www.irs.gov/taxi/), that is targeted at teens. Slickly presented, with eye- catching graphics and the latest slang, the goal of the site seems to be to make taxes cool. Taxi works very hard at that goal, with examples that are intended to appeal to teens, and an informal, conversational style that belies the seriousness of the IRS message: You vill pay zese taxes, und you vill like it! While browsing it, I wondered to what degree teenagersan already naturally suspicious groupwill accept the slanted presentation. I remember being particularly cautious as a teen when any adult tried to be cool when talking to me; it was a signal that they wanted something. My intuition is that teens who visit this site will react similarly, because Taxi has the same two strikes against it: it is written by adults who want younger people to buy their message; and it practically screams, "I'm cool!" in a pathetic way. Taxi is an informative web site. It is also fairly comprehensive, addressing different levels of taxes and what they are used for, as well as progressive, regressive, and proportional taxation. There's even a page that offers easy to understand definitions of many tax-related terms. Sprinkled throughout are historical facts that lend an air of credibility and solidity to the site. More interesting to me, however, is the unintentional bits of information it communicates. One need not be an advocate of freedom to wonder why the IRS is trying to steer one's thoughts so carefully around certain issues and to specific conclusions. In presenting the federal government's role in taxation, for example, Taxi states that the first states were sovereign territories that "chose to give up some power to the Federal Government for the collective good." This contradicts the traditional historical interpretation that the states each saw that their self-interest lay in pooling their resources for certain tasks, such as defense, and that they were rightly suspicious about a strong federal government. By choosing to cast history in that context, however, it becomes easier to talk about government's "services" providing for the common good today; accepting this idea is crucial for accepting the state in its present leeching form. The discussion of the federal government also presents an interesting bit on its "responsibilities"; the list given includes helping the disabled and elderly and paying for FBI agents, medical research, and air traffic controllers. Not surprisingly, there's no mention of how these responsibilities came into the purview of the feds, no hint that it could be otherwise, and no mention that tasks that the federal government is not specifically authorized to do by the US Constitution are prohibited to it. Yet, it's difficult to think that an alert mind that comes across that list wouldn't recognize its breadth and wonder why it's the government's responsibility to do those things. Paying One's "Fair Share" In discussing the income tax the web site takes on a stronger tone, stating in regards to personal earnings on at least one page that "not all that money belongs to you." But rather than stating that it "belongs" to someone elsea claim that the IRS knows it cannot supportit falls back on the argument that the taxes are needed to pay for government services. Then, after presenting an analogy comparing government services to pizza toppings (that's one pizza guaranteed to make many people ill), Taxi hits teens where they tend to be sensitive: what other people might think about them if they don't pay their "fair share" of taxes. However, in other places, Taxi speaks approvingly of shifting taxes to other people. This disparity comes up often enough to leave most visitors wondering which is betterpaying one's "share" or trying to shove it off to someone else. Voluntary compliance receives a lot of attention on the Taxi site, not surprisingly. In a rare bit of honesty, the site admits that the IRS relies heavily on citizens to police themselves. Yet not too far above this definition, "taxes" are defined as "required payments of money to the government." Again, the difference between approaches should be sufficient to set many visitors to wondering why the IRS leaves compliance a voluntary choice when tax payments are required.
[CTRL] Principles of Internet Law
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 43/A - November 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 43 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - Principles of Internet Law by Wolf DeVoon Folks who speculate about nontraditional legal systems generally have my blessing, however misguided their efforts. It is more important to talk about smashing the state, than it is to make sense. Lord knows, I've postponed the job of defining a laissez faire philosophy of law as long as possible (more than 20 years) because political innovation is a difficult, thankless task. It consists mainly of squinting at a blank, featureless landscape, strewn with dust and ashes, shrouded in the fog of a thousand hostile engagements. However, we're in a kind of emergency situation now, and the court of public opinion is threatening to hold me in contempt, unless I present my case. Internet law (or rather, the absence of laissez faire legal principles) has attracted the attention of territorial sovereigns and institutional scholars, most of whom are whistling the punch-drunk melody of fascism in three-part harmony. Worse: young, well-intentioned webslingers have filed an amicus brief, suggesting that Internet law is unnecessary and that non-coercive, voluntary arbitration could solve the problem of due process. In the second part of this document, I will rebut the arguments of opposing counsel (Joel P. Trachtman, Roderick T. Long). But to understand why their proposals are inadequate, we must initially consider basic principles and construct a theory of laissez faire jurisprudence from the bottom up. Part One - Constitutional Law THE IDEA OF LEGALITY I'll begin by quoting a paragraph from Government Is a Quack Faith-Healer, which identifies the context, necessity, and goal of due process: Ayn Rand had the right idea. The guiltiest of men are the natural oligarchs, who abdicated their leadership of an anarcho-capitalist revolution. Instead of giving Harry Truman the atomic bomb, it could have and should have been developed in a laboratory at Galt's Gulch. This is the moral meaning of inequality. When the men of brains collaborate with a mob of dullards, it's unfair to blame the resultant calamity on a crowd of pickpockets and cheerleaders. Sadly, a moral principle never reaches beyond itself. Its ethical arms are too short, extending no farther than one man's soul, one man's purpose and lifespan. We have to look elsewhere for political guidance, because the thing at issue is "a nation of laws and not of men." Whether the nation is defined by physical or anonymous digital territory, the constitution of its legal system cannot be deduced rationally from one person's moral purpose, however noble. I am a great admirer of morality. Frankly, I wish I had more of itbecause I seldom know with certainty the consequences of my actions, and because every artist would gladly trade justice for money. In this, filmmakers are no different than dogs, hoping to eat and fuck without moral or political constraint (i.e., quit my day job tomorrow and spend $5 million of other people's money making an art movie that will flop at the box office). If you are uncomfortable with the expression "a nation of laws," feel free to substitute "a household of laws" or "a cyberspace of laws." The size of a court's jurisdiction is unimportant. What matters is that no man should be allowed to judge his own cause. The essence of due process is a legal (i.e., formalized and fair) proceeding in which one or more parties bring a case or controversy into open court, for the purpose of adjudication by impersonal law. The duty of a judge is similar to that of a medical doctor. He admits the evidence, conducts objective tests, and prescribes an appropriate legal remedy. Because no man should be allowed to judge his own cause, monarchy and other forms of arbitrary government yielded to liberal democracy. It was a substantial improvement in terms of due process. No longer could a king or baron dispose of his "subjects" unilaterally by whim or categorical privilege. And whatever else you may feel about the American Experiment, it gave the world an example of impersonal due process of law, mainly thanks to the U.S. Constitution, which created for the courts an independent jurisdiction, unrelated to legislation or executive order. Readers who are curious about the original intent of the U.S. Constitution should study Madison's Debates In The Federal Convention. While delegates fought each other stubbornly for two months in the summer of 1787, struggling toward a dissatisfying compromise with respect to representation, legislation, and state government powers, few questioned the wisdom of an independent judiciary, competent in their own right to define due process and to perform retail justice at every level of the new U.S. system. I am keenly aware of corruption
[CTRL] Bradley Dreaming for Us
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.43/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 43/A - November 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 43 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - Bradley Dreaming for Us by Tibor R. Machan Bill Bradley, now the darling of the Democratic Left, gave it away big time during the recent debate he had with Al Gore. He was reported to have told us that the American presidency is "about dreaming and trying to fulfill those dreams." That is categorically not what the American presidency is about. Can you imagine it? The highest officer of the government of the United States of America is supposed to be about fulfilling people's dreams! No way. But that is what many now view government, the eternal Santa Claus. And by implication the citizenry is a bunch of kids who have dreams of various goodies Santa will bring them. At whose expense? Well, kids do not fret about such matters. Anyone with kids knows this their cost consciousness does not begin until they get out and pay with their own earnings for what they want (and even then some don't get it). It looks like this childishness about what to want and how to get it is the official public philosophy of Bill Bradley. He wants a health care insurance program for everyone that will cost $50 billion but never ever discusses why everyone should receive such health care insurance, even those who have not seen fit to care for their medical needs and splurged on other things throughout their lives. Sure, now they find themselves in dire straits and that is regrettable. But just exactly why should their dreams of costless health insurance be something that the president of the USA will impose upon the rest of us? Indeed, by perpetuating the myth that the presidency is about dream-fulfillment Bill Bradley should be disqualifying himself in everyone's eyes. Only there are enough silly people among the American citizenry who believe that it is their right to get something for nothing. They view other people's earnings and assets as just a portion of a public resource they may dip into anytime they have another dream. They have no grasp of the fact that such is the road to running out of all precious resources, by treating them as collective property that everyone may utilize at his or her heart's content. What is saving Bill Bradley and his ilk from being put into jail or a loony bin is that most Americansand indeed citizens throughout the civilized worldare willing to overlook their larceny just to enjoy some peace and quite. Arthur Laffer, the USC economist, explained this when he presented a friend of his with a napkin on which he draw what has come to be called "The Laffer Curve." It was a simple bell-shaped curve that meant to show that up to a point people will put up with confiscatory taxation because, well, it is too much trouble to fight it. Kind of like if someone keeps stealing small stuff from your front yard or even putting small dents into you car. Not that it is really right, only that to fight it you'd lose more than you could gain back. With all these people coming out of American primary and secondary education convinced that they are owed a livingor at least a safety netnot from their own careful planning, prudence, and wisdom but through the seizure of other people's resources, it is no wonder that Bradley's Laffer Curve philosophy of public finance goes nearly unscrutinized. All that Gore could say it will cost too much but not that is it highway robbery, which it would be if implemented. In our day it has come to be commonplace that no one who is not well to do deserves this. Everyone ought to have enough, the idea goes, never mind how they have lived, what choices they have made, how they are managing their lives. It is their basic, natural right to dip into other people's pockets, regardless. Now there are some people who are unfortunately helpless. But they could be taken good care of by the hundreds of charitable organizations that those who are well off have established for just that purposes. Indeed, for a goodly portion of Britain's and America's history that has been exactly what went onsee, for one, Michael Tanner, The End of Welfare: Fighting Poverty in the Civil Society (Cato Institute, 1996). But it also bears recalling what Herbert Spencer noted: "Sympathy with one in suffering suppresses, for the time being, remembrance of his transgressions. . . . Those whose hardships are set forth in pamphlets and proclamations in sermons and speeches which echo throughout society, are assumed to be all worthy souls, grievously wronged; and none of them are thought of as bearing the penalties of their own misdeeds." (Man Versus the State, p.22) What the belief in universal innocent neediness and a nationalized pool of wealth has done is encourage millionsincluding many huge corporations, educational establishments, artistic
[CTRL] Politics in Americ
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Politics in America
Part 1: Survey and Introduction
by Robert L. Kocher
This series will develop a comprehensive view of political and social life.
It won't be for the faint-hearted. We will tear some myths and
superficialities down, then rebuild some concepts.
After thirty years of political and cultural turbulence, a presidential
election was held in November of 1996, and nobody showed up. The voter
turn-out was the lowest since 1924. In 1924 it was harder to travel to voting
places and there weren't many galvanizing issues. Movies, radio and
television had yet to be developed. Many people barely knew who was running
for office.
Republicans were elected into national legislative offices in landslide
proportions in 1994 as an expression of diffuse dissatisfaction and desire
for change.
Change what? There is today little clarity on what needs to be changed. What
is seen is a diffuse emotional response registering vague dissatisfaction
which is not very concretely expressed. There is often very little
understanding of what the word change means or what kind of change is wanted.
Change means entirely different things to different people.
In his first presidential campaign, Bill Clinton ran on a platform for
"people who were interested in change" or "people who wanted change." He only
used the intentionally vague word "change" without ever explaining what
changes he planned to make or were needed. Some of us understood the changes
he intended and were alarmed.
Since the mid-60s, "change" has been a deliberately deceptive bland code word
for implementation of the countercultural and leftist agenda of the 60s and
70s. Others understood that implicitly-intended meaning of the code word
("change") equally well and were elated because they wanted that agenda. But
the word "change" coupled with avoidance and lack of necessity to delineate
specific detail also allowed evasion and lack of content. Therefore, others
wished they knew what was meant and were deceived by the unspecified concept.
Still others, including many people in America, were in a state of diffuse
desperation such that promise of change of any kind was seized upon in blind
hope of any improvement whatsoever.
Economic Change
One factor to be considered in demand for change is economic.
On a broad level, economics has become the political hack's and ideologue's
science of rationalization. So-called analysts and theoreticians on all sides
strain to present selected numbers and explanations in such a way as to argue
for whatever condition of the economy they would like to believe, and would
like other people to believe, it to be. The Democrats and the political left
argue for belief in the Clinton boom of the 90s. Republicans argue that the
90s boom resulted from the continuing effect of the Reagan years. Many point
to low unemployment figures. Others argue that while there is supposed low
unemployment, the job expansion is in lower level and lower paying areas.
Others point to the stock market as the economic condition index.
People on all sides of the political and theoretical spectrum attempt to take
credit while directing blame at everyone else. There is no agreement on what
economic conditions exist, or what caused them. People deny or exaggerate
economic conditions, or attribute economic conditions to whatever cause suits
their purpose. Some advocates routinely deny that the last recession was
serious and they claim it lasted but one year.
It's all spin without substance or reference to reality. Economic analysis is
a symptom of a major problem in America in which there is no agreement on
what constitutes basic reality. Little of anything is based on comprehensive
fact. Little is based in logic. People are making up the story as they go
along for their own purposes.
Management and technical recruiters say they began to see a decrease in
demand for top grade people and a flattening of the economy beginning in the
last quarter of 1988. By the middle of 1989 it was pronounced and by 1990 it
was disastrous. Recruiters are one of the most accurate sources of
information on the employment or unemployment situation in America.
An ad in the Chicago Tribune seeking technicians would produce 600 or more
applicants in 1991. In 1993 an ad in a small Chicago suburban newspaper
seeking C programmers elicited 450 mailed-in resumes in four days by people
who were eager to take jobs at any salaries. In 1998 or 1999 the same ad
would be lucky to bring in 20 people demanding high salaries. In 1994 a small
Washington Post ad for technology corridor engineers would bring in a stack
of resumes eight inches high from desperate applicants from as far away as
New York, Texas, and even Americans trying to survive
[CTRL] *One Nation After All*
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/014027572x/addallbooksearch/102-0922803- 5067260 One Nation, After All : What Americans Really Think About God, Country, Family, Racism, Welfare, Immigration, Homosexuality, Work, The Right, The Left and Each Other by Alan Wolfe Reviews Amazon.com Few academics write as crisply as the sociologist Alan Wolfe, and even fewer are capable of making the penetrating insights that sprinkle the pages of this engaging study of suburban psychology. Based on 200 extensive interviews with middle-class Americans, Wolfe's study uncovers a striking tolerance. Americans, according to the author, can be quite harsh when judging their own behavior, but they exhibit a hands-off approach with others. (Wolfe also cites an exception to this rule: homosexuality.) Americans are not torn apart by any kind of cultural war, contrary to the claims of intellectuals on both the right and left. Instead, writes Wolfe, they are a practical people willing to accept social change. Forget the shallow opinion polls that appear every few days in the news. One Nation, After All comes closer to the real pulse of the American people than just about any other you will find. --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title The Wall Street Journal, Alan Ehrenhalt ...done ... with diligence and with scrupulous self-discipline... Mr. Wolfe did what the best researchers of any generation do: He listened carefully and sought to put his own preconceptions aside. --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title The Philadelphia Inquirer, Warren Goldstein [T]he material is so consistently interesting, and so often challenges our casual prejudices (about suburbia, about attitudes toward welfare, about white and black attitudes toward the city, about middle-class suburbanites' self- conceptions), that it ought to be read by any serious student of modern American society. --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title The San Francisco Chronicle, Sanford D. Horwitt ...if readers hang in there, they will be rewarded when Wolfe, in the last third of the book, weaves a potent argument in support of his larger point that the United States, as a middle-class country, is much more united than the culture wars would lead one to believe. --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] I Have a Scheme
-Caveat Lector- http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/opinion_2.html King family stops at nothing in its pursuit of profits Cynthia Tucker - Staff Sunday, November 7, 1999 It was a decade or so ago that Coretta Scott King sued Boston University for possession of some of the papers that had belonged to her late husband, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Back then, she still held the moral high ground. She and her children had not yet attached a price tag to every piece of her late husband's legacy. Back then, they had not yet relinquished their roles as keepers of the flame to become merchants of the dream. So it was easy enough to support her quest --- though she was ultimately unsuccessful --- to acquire some 83,000 documents that her husband had donated to the university in the early 1960s. Several civil rights leaders supported her. Not that it matters much, but so did I. After all, Mrs. King --- who had retained possession of another collection of thousands of her late husband's private papers --- contended she was only trying to fulfill her husband's wish to house all of his private documents at an African-American institution in the South. At the time, 1987, it seemed a sure thing that she would either place the entire collection at the Atlanta institution she founded --- the King Center for Non-Violent Social Change --- or donate it to King's undergraduate alma mater, Morehouse College. (He received his Ph.D. from BU in 1955.) But a short 12 years later, the King family has all but abandoned any claim to keeping King's legacy as he would have wished. Never mind Mrs. King's earlier assertion, contained in the lawsuit, that King himself had believed "that the King papers should remain in the South and that a university or other institution dedicated to the education of black students, preservation of black history and promotion of the civil rights movement should be the repository of the King papers." She is now trying to sell the documents in her possession to the Library of Congress for $20 million. Dexter King, the younger son, spoke of their offer, incredibly, as a "substantial gift to the nation." Claiming that Sotheby's auction house has valued the documents at $30 million, the family will sell them, he said, "at substantially below market value." While unsettling, this development is hardly shocking. By now, King's heirs have become known for their relentless profiteering. They have gone to court to demand copyright fees from anyone who uses King's writings or speeches; they picked a fight with the National Park Service in a quixotic quest to build a for-profit King museum; they signed a multimillion-dollar deal with Time Warner to distribute King's writings as books and CDs. This flowed naturally from their efforts to market King's legacy like the estate of Elvis Presley, whose marketing representatives inspired so much admiration in Dexter King that he has called on them for advice. Given the historical significance of King's work, it's no surprise that the Library of Congress is eager to purchase the documents --- even at a hefty $20 million. And though some members of Congress have balked at the price, they are hardly in a position to play cheap, since the government paid a whopping $16 million to the heirs of Dallas dressmaker Abraham Zapruder for
[CTRL] Freed Puerto Ricans were Cuban spies (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Capitol Hill Blue Freed Puerto Ricans were Cuban spies Sunday, November 7, 1999 The Puerto Rican nationalists offered clemency by President Clinton were members of two groups with ties to Cuban intelligence agents, The Hartford Courant reported. In a story in Sunday's editions, the newspaper said FBI files on a Wells Fargo robbery in West Hartford document Cuba's support for the Puerto Rican independence movement. The contents of the files have not been disclosed until now, the Courant said. The FBI monitored conversations and meetings between Cuban intelligence agents and members of the group Los Macheteros, Spanish for ``The Cane Cutters.'' ``Numerous court-authorized interceptions of conversations ... have determined that the Cubans support and direct the Macheteros at a firsthand level,'' the FBI said in a confidential memo. In addition to analyzing the FBI investigation of the 1983 armored car robbery, The Courant said it interviewed 50 sources, including former Cuban agents, FBI agents and congressional investigators. In September, President Clinton freed 11 jailed nationalists, members of Los Macheteros or the FALN, the Spanish acronym for the Armed Forces of National Liberation. The FALN has claimed responsibility for numerous bombings in the United States; its 1975 bombing of Fraunces Tavern in New York killed four and injured 63. Los Macheteros, with the exception of the $7.1 million Wells Fargo robbery, attacked U.S. government targets in Puerto Rico. None of the prisoners offered clemency were directly involved in violent acts, Clinton said, and he acted on human rights activists' arguments that the prisoners had paid their debt by serving an average 19 years in jail. In its Wells Fargo investigation, the FBI learned that Machetero leaders met regularly with their Cuban contacts in Mexico City, but sometimes also met in Cuba. About a third of the stolen cash went to the Cubans, sources told the newspaper. White House spokesman Jim Kennedy, asked whether Cuban support for the nationalists was considered during deliberations on the clemency offer, said decisions about clemency are confidential. White House spokesman Mike Hammer, contacted by The Associated Press, said nobody was available Saturday to comment on the specifics of the report. Filiberto Ojeda Rios, a wanted Macheteros leader who has been in hiding in Puerto Rico for years, angrily denied any ties to Cuba during an interview with Puerto Rican radio journalist Luis Penchi. ``That is ridiculous, absurd,'' he said. A spokesman for the Cuban Interests Section, which serves as Havana's de facto embassy in Washington, also dismissed the link. The office was closed Saturday. ``I have no information on that,'' said Luis M. Fernandez. ``In my opinion, it is more science fiction than anything else.'' = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really Saying?
-Caveat Lector- Well they would avoid it wouldn't they. Please read:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm and you'll see why. I challenged the pope personally to do exactly that a few years ago. Read it for yourself and find out the Truth. Peace be upon you, JAH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts What is the Government Really Saying? -Caveat Lector- On 7 Nov 99, at 9:07, earthman wrote: The Vatican, which has declared 2000 a Jubilee year, has scrupulously avoided linking the anniversary with millenarian aspirations, though security will be a constant concern during the year-long programme of events expected to draw millions of pilgrims to Rome. According to the Talmud, a Jubilee Year--which occurs in a multiple of 7 (7X7=Jubilee) indicates a year in which all debts are forgiven and all property reverts to its original owner(s). Does the Vatican really propose to cancel all debts and to return all that property it owns around the world to its original owners? Unless this is the Vatican's intention, the expression "Jubilee" year is virtually without meaning. I think we tend to associate Jubilee with a great celebration--which is not its actual meaning within religious tradition. (Although when this was really in practice, and people's debts were forgiven and they got their property back, I'm sure there was major revelling.) sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FOIA (freedom of information act) document on CIA relationship with Academia
-Caveat Lector- From Public Information Resources http://www.pir.org Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart [ The CIA asked University of California administrator Earl Clinton Bolton, who was spending some time at CIA headquarters, to suggest ideas on how to improve relations between the Agency and academia. ] Academia 01, p.1 http://www.pir.org/foia/ac01p01.gif 5 August 1968 MEMORANDUM FOR: [deleted] SUBJECT: Agency-Academic Relations This is an attempt to make some observations and suggestions about Agency-academic relations. In doing so I am grateful for the stimulus furnished by your outline. Although I believe I have addressed myself to most of the questions you have raised I have done so in free form rather than by a point by point consideration. I have also used "head notes" for purposes of organization and in an attempt to highlight the crucial questions in the subject. Justifying an Agency-Academic Relationship: Let me stress at the outset that I believe Agency-academic relations are for the most part very good. Though I have no quantitative data to support such a conclusion my guess is that 99% of the members of the academy would be willing to assist the Agency if properly and skillfully approached, and that only a small fraction of that other 1% would be angered by an invitation to assist or would attempt to embarrass the Agency in any way. However, on occasion when a university or an individual has acknowledged any contact with the Agency there has been some outcry by a few vocal members of the academic community. In a later part of this paper I suggest "an affirmative program" designed to improve the Agency's reputation in academic circles and thus decrease the risks (costs) of association with the Agency. However, until either the passage of time or an image bolstering plan changes the cliches of the moment an educational institution or individual electing to assist the Agency may be on the defensive. In my view the best way to defend association with the Agency when such a defense is necessary is: 1. By relating work for the Agency to one of the traditional functions of a university; and Academia 01, p.2 http://www.pir.org/foia/ac01p02.gif 2. By basing the defense or rejoinder on long established academic values. The Functions of a University: There is almost universal agreement that universities do (and properly should) engage in the following basic functions: 1. The preservation and transmission of knowledge to their constituency (i.e. the so-called teaching function); and 2. The testing of that which is currently accepted as "truth" and the discovery of new truth (i.e. the research function); and 3. The performance for society's benefit of those functions which can best (or exclusively) be performed by a university (i.e. the public service function) Authorities will differ as to whether a sub-function e.g. the training of a leadership elite to be innovative and responsive should be included under "1" or "3" above, but there is little disagreement that what higher education is all about is encompassed within these general goals. The Agency should phrase its requests to academia in such a way that the service being sought relates as clearly and directly as possible to one of these traditional functions and when necessary the university and individual scholar should explain involvement with the Agency as a contribution to one of these proper academic goals. It should also be stressed that when an apologia is necessary it can best be made: (1) by some distant academic who is not under attack, (2) in a "respectable" publication of general circulation (e.g. Harpers, Saturday Review, Vital Speeches, etc.), and (3) with full use of the jargon of the academy (as illustrated below). Traditional Mores of the Academic: Every profession develops a certain ethical or philosophical penumbra which is more or less sacred and which protects from attack the most vulnerable or least understood rites of that profession. This body of doctrine usually develops by "common law" and is subsequently codified. (Incidentally the codified dogma never precisely articulates the full scope of the protective doctrines; hence there is sufficient vagueness in the total traditions of the profession to provide a skillful polemicist with formidable ammunition for defense.) Academia 01, p.3 http://www.pir.org/foia/ac01p03.gif Two doctrines fiercely protected by the academy are "academic freedom" and "privilege and tenure." The former is the absolute right of the scholar to investigate any subject within his competence, in any lawful way, at any time. The latter doctrine holds that a fully initiated member of the profession has certain irrevocable privileges, including but not limited to, the right to continue his association with the university until retirement without fear of termination except for a very few egregious offenses. When attacked for aiding the Agency
[CTRL] Announcement From Dr. Rich Boylan (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 13:04:31 -0800 From: "Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Announcement From Dr. Rich Boylan A PERSONAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM DR. RICHARD BOYLAN November 7th, 1999 12:00 hrs., PST I am, as of the date of this announcement, making a major change in my involvement with the UFO phenomenon. This change is partially voluntary, and partially involuntary. From this day forward until the Paradigm Shift, I will no longer write or speak publicly on UFO science and technology, nor U.S. and other governments' back-engineered antigravity and other advanced technology, nor the rogue UFO Cover-Up's criminal activities, including unauthorized kidnapping and terrorizing of civilians, nor serve as a conduit for the legitimate government's Acclimation Program spokespersons' messages on these topics. Henceforth, I will be focusing my public speaking, writings and messages on the spiritual, mental, psychic, metaphysical, cultural, and personal-transformation aspects of extraterrestrial- human interaction. And I will, of course, continue my work of consultation and clinical hypnotherapy with experiencers of ET encounters. My moving to concentrate my focus on the spiritual and personal side of the UFO/ET phenomenon is a direction I have already substantially been taking, out of a conviction that the major point of ET visitation is to nurture human development and cultural emphasis in precisely these areas. So I now entirely focus my public efforts in these areas of the "UFO message". However, my total withdrawal from speaking and writing about the science, technology and governmental-intrigue sides of the UFO phenomenon is not entirely voluntary. Rather, it is in response to a series of threats to my family, especially focused on one of my children, that I cannot and will not ignore. That benighted consortium of private-sector and rogue governmental operations, which is responsible for the down-and-dirty side of the UFO Cover-Up, has escalated to death threats that I must deal with. Thus, the change in my public focus in matters ufological. Because the down-and-dirty Cabal are only interested in the power, prestige, and profits which come from their sought-after monopoly on ET-derived science and technology, it is my estimate that by abandoning my efforts to publicize this technology, and human successes in copying this technology, I will reduce the threat to my family. Besides, I have largely already placed in the public sector, via my writings, talks and webpage ( www.jps.net/drboylan/ ), the bulk of developments formerly hidden by the UFO Cover-Up. You all know that I am not faint-hearted. I have placed my personal life, reputation, professional career and savings on the line, in pursuing my research and publicizing my findings. In so doing I have suffered enormous personal harm. I can stand that. But I will not place my family at risk in the face of these escalated grave threats. This decision is firm. I ask your understanding, and if so inclined, your prayers or other spiritual support. At its most fundamental, this struggle between the fear-hate-attack side and the peaceful side of the UFO community mirrors a spiritual struggle in the cosmos between the forces of darkness and light. May we all advance in love and light. Faithfully, Richard Boylan, Ph.D. Dr. Richard Boylan is a behavioral scientist, certified clinical hypnotherapist, university instructor (retired), and internationally-noted researcher into extraterrestrial-human encounters. Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC 2826 O Street, Suite 2, Sacramento, CA 95816 USA. Phone: (916) 455-0120 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Official WEBSITE: www.jps.net/drboylan/ You are invited to join his UFOTruth internet reports and communications list (subscribe at: http://UFOTruth.listbot.com ). = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
[CTRL] XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 07, 1999 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 07, 1999 12:51:05 ET X 'PERSECUTED' CLINTON KEPT LEWINSKY PRESS CLIPPINGS IN DESK; CALLED IN 'RICHARD JEWELL FILE' During the frenetic first weeks after the eruption of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, in January of last year, President Clinton kept what he called the 'Richard Jewell file' in his desk, Jeffrey Toobin reports in the November 15, 1999, issue of the NEW YORKER, hitting racks on Monday Clinton identified with Jewell, the former Atlanta security guard who was wrongly suspected of planting a bomb at the Olympics in 1996, Toobin writes, and Clinton kept in the secret file newspaper articles about what he regarded as the unfair attacks on him. Toobin reports that it was not only at the White House but also at Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's office that the Lewinsky drama became extraordinarily personal. In fact, Toobin writes, the President came far closer to losing his office than is generally supposed! The NEW YORKER report is lifted from Toobin's upcoming book A VAST CONSPIRACY: THE REAL STORY OF THE SEX SCANDAL THAT NEARLY BROUGHT DOWN APRESIDENT. MORE... Starr's office may have presented a united front after the story broke on the Internet, but it was torn by an internal struggle. Toobin wirtes that one critical battle concerned a key question in the case: whether Starr's office should offer Lewinsky immunity from prosecution. Two of the most experienced prosecutors on Starr's staff, Bruce Udolf and Michael Emmick, conducted the negotiations with Lewinsky lawyer Bill Ginsburg. Ginsburg refused to let the prosecutors interview Lewinsky directly, but he did allow her to write a description of her relationship with Clinton. Based on this document, the Office of the Independent Counsel, represented by Udolf and Emmick, faxed a three-page immunity agreement to Monica Lewinsky's lawyers on February 2,1998, only eight days after President Clinton told the nation that he had had sex with "that woman, Miss Lewinsky." Toobin reports, In a meeting on February 3rd, the Starr's prosecutors battled fiercely over whether they should in fact enter into the agreement with Lewinsky. Most of them, led by prosecutors Jackie Bennett and Robert Bittman, argued that "Emmick and Udolf had wimped out." Bennett and Bittman argued that Starr should not allow himself to be pushed around by Ginsburg, a lawyer they considered a grandstander. Emmick and Udolf responded that their fellow-prosecutors should forget about Ginsburg and focus on what Lewinsky could give them as their only real witness in the case against the President. 'STARR DELAY SAVED CLINTON' Starr sided with Bennett and Bittman and no agreement was made, delaying the eventual disclosure of Monica's story by six months, a delay, Toobin contends, that saved the Clinton Presidency. "Starr," he writes, "could have had an impeachment report before Congress as early as the end of February; instead, it was delivered to the House in September." "His decision marked the precise moment when Bill Clinton's survival in office became assured," Toobin argues, suggesting that "if Starr had agreed to the immunity deal on February 3rd, he would have had the evidence, in testimony and in conclusive genetic evidence, a semen-stained dress, to prove that Clinton had deceived the nation. Clinton's defenders had not yet had time to change the subject, writes Toobin. MORE... X X X X X = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL]
[CTRL] OT: A message from Drudge (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- DRUDGE REPORT X FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 05, 1999 DRUDGE REPORT TO PASS 200 MILLION VISITS IN 1999 Sometime over the next few days... the DRUDGE REPORT website will pass 200 million visits so far this year! With October 1999 being the most-visited month in the six year history of the report -- a few thousand shy of 22 million home page loads -- the site has nearly doubled its activity since the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal in the Fall of '98. Readers from nearly every nation of the wired-world visit the report on a daily -- if not hourly -- basis. Slightly over 20% of DRUDGE readers come from outside of the United States. But it is America that I love. And it is in America I will stay! The ability to report on the world via modem without government intrusions has kept this nobody busy for the past six years. I may have been rhymed and slimed and told to get out of town while I still had my life, for doing what I do, but I stand convinced, more than ever, that the future has been made for individuals. Gone are the days that we had to wait for Dan Rather to put on his make-up to read us the evening news! Gone is the time when a few newspaper and magazine editors controlled the flow and owned the headlines! I have never answered to anyone, but to you the reader. I understand deeply that the gates have blown open. And to that, I say: Let the future begin! = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] Huck Ollie
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Mark Keesee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:17 AM To: cia-drugs Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Huck Ollie From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, January 26, 1998 Papers link Huckabee to U.S. league BILL SIMMONS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE In 1994, 1995 and 1996, while he was Arkansas' lieutenant governor and was being paid $61,500 on the side by Action America Inc. for making speeches, Mike Huckabee had a little-known involvement in another organization. It was the United States League for Freedom and Democracy, incorporated in New Jersey and headquartered at East Orange, N.J., as one of 140 chapters around the world of the World League for Freedom and Democracy, billing itself as a pro-democracy Communist-fighting organization. The world league is the successor organization to the Asian Pacific Anti-Communist League founded in 1954 and which grew in 1967 to become an intercontinental organization, according to papers provided by the U.S. league's secretary-general, W. Bruce Potter of East Orange, N.J. The U.S. league had been known earlier under several names, dating to the 1960s. Potter became Huckabee's original link with the league in 1993 after Huckabee became lieutenant governor. A friend of Huckabee and Potter told Huckabee about Potter and suggested they get acquainted, Huckabee spokesman Rex Nelson said last week. They met, became friends, and Huckabee became a member of the U.S. league. All league "members" serve on a voluntary basis, without pay. They participate in league activities as speakers and present their thoughts as lecturers to college programs and to meetings conducted by the national and world leagues. After getting to know Potter, Huckabee became a trustee of the U.S. league and chairman of the league in both 1995 and 1996, according to papers supplied by Potter. Huckabee was honorary chairman of a league conference at the United Nations in 1995, was speaker at a world league conference in Moscow in the Russian Federation in 1996 and attended a world league conference in 1995 in Taipei, Taiwan. Huckabee's expenses and accommodations for those trips were financed by one or more of the leagues, Potter and Nelson said. Neither Nelson nor Potter would say last week how much was spent on the trips. Several other questions were not answered after being submitted by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. After becoming governor in July 1996, Huckabee gave up his role in the league because he no longer had time for it, Nelson said. Though little-known, Huckabee's involvement in the league was not utterly unknown in Arkansas. On Jan. 21, 1995, the Democrat-Gazette reported that Huckabee, then lieutenant governor, was leaving for the world league meeting in Taiwan. Because then-Gov. Jim Guy Tucker was in Texas on a quail hunt, Huckabee's departure for Taiwan allowed state Sen. Stanley Russ, D-Conway, to become acting governor during the two top state officials' absences. His connection with the organization was briefly cited in 1996 in a weekly newspaper, Arkansas Times. As lieutenant governor, Huckabee's office also had contact with Potter and the U.S. league by way of the taxpayer-financed telephones in the lieutenant governor's office in 1994, 1995 and 1996. Telephone records show about 30 calls from Huckabee's office to Potter and the league. The calls usually were brief and the costs slight -- for example, 16 calls in 1995 totaled $5.21, and $1.67 eight calls in 1996. Most of the calls were to a number that connects with the league's fax machine, though a few were to Potter's line at the East Orange welfare office. Huckabee spokesman Nelson said that since the two men were friends, there might have been any number of topics discussed, or articles faxed, during their communications. The U.S. league is a tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Service code, Potter said. In the U.S. league's informational tax reform, Form 990, for Dec. 20-31, 1993, Huckabee -- address State Capitol, Little Rock, Arkansas -- is listed as one of 17 trustees of the league. Potter is another. The organization reported total revenues of $4,897 and expenses of $5,117. The organization's Form 990 for 1994 listed Huckabee and the other 16 again as trustees. Total revenues were reported as $5,158. Expenses were reported at $4,534. But in years when the U.S. league has more substantial activities, it also has more resources. In 1995, it was host to a world league conference at the United Nations and reported $164,189 in revenue and expenses of $30 under revenue total. Almost all of the U.S. league's revenue that year came from the world league. Potter signs the Form 990
[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] Huckabee's files uncover life of a public official
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Mark Keesee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:18 AM To: cia-drugs Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Huckabee's files uncover life of a public official From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, November 23, 1998 Huckabee's files uncover the life of a public official BILL SIMMONS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE Records of a former employee of Gov. Mike Huckabee include numerous letters and notes pertaining to Huckabee's involvement in the U.S. League for Freedom and Democracy. The governor has defended his involvement in the league and its World League associate, including his role as chairman of the U.S. league in 1994 and 1995. The league has representatives in more than 100 nations, Huckabee said, working for free enterprise and democratic principles. It has been good for Arkansas for him to be involved in the organizations and to become acquainted with world leaders and the movement that the league bolsters, he said. Huckabee has attended league events in Taiwan, Moscow, New York and Washington. He became involved through a friend, Bruce Potter of East Orange, N.J., the U.S. league's secretary-general. State records indicate Huckabee's role in the league: State telephone records from his days as lieutenant governor show about 60 calls, at taxpayers' expense, from the office to the league's telephone numbers, generally at small costs. Huckabee used $707.03 in tax funds to purchase and send thank-you notes and books as gifts pertaining to his trip to Taiwan. WILLIAMS RELEASED DOCUMENTS The documents were released by ex-employee Kamala Williams, who worked for Huckabee when he was lieutenant governor and then in 1996-97 managed the Governor's Mansion for Huckabee. The records are available under the state Freedom of Information Law at the office of the governor, on 49 diskettes that she turned in when she was asked to hand them over and resign early this year. The office has released 32 diskettes, withholding the other 17 on grounds that they contain material exempt from disclosure. However, disclosable portions of those diskettes are available in printed form, the office said. Williams has accused Huckabee and the first lady of misusing funds from the state's Mansion Allowance, which totals $60,000 a year, by spending some of it on personal items. The governor has denied wrongdoing. He has called Williams disgruntled and unstable. He and his spokesman, Rex Nelson, have said the records she has released may have been altered. She has denied altering them. When shown specific records that Williams released, Huckabee spokesmen have said that they recognize some as authentic, but couldn't verify the authenticity of others. Last week, Huckabee decided not to answer press questions about these matters because the lawsuit that two taxpayers filed over the Mansion Allowance and a $71,000 gift of furniture to the Huckabees is pending in circuit court in Little Rock. Huckabee and a spokesman did not answer questions that had been raised months ago about how Huckabee's trips to league events were financed. One document from the diskettes was a 1994 letter to a World League official in Taiwan giving him the account number and bank routing number for a Texarkana bank account in the name of the Huckabees. The letter does not explain why the information was given to that official. Williams said that as best she remembered it was giving the official information he needed to transfer funds to the Huckabees' bank account to pay expenses of a trip Huckabee was about to make to a league event in Taipei, Taiwan. Huckabee staff members did work related to Huckabee's league activities on their lieutenant governor's office work time, she said. Though Huckabee's role in the league was little-known in Arkansas, it was mentioned from time to time, such as an occasion when Huckabee was involved in league business and then-Gov. Jim Guy Tucker was out of state, resulting in a state senator being acting governor at the time. LETTERS POINT TO LEAGUE Huckabee drew attention to his league activities in letters to prominent Americans, including a 1994 letter to then-U.S. Sen. Robert Dole, R-Kansas; a 1995 letter invited world-renowned physicist Edward Teller of Stanford, Calif., to address a league meeting; a 1995 letter asked New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani for a proclamation welcoming the league's meeting in the city; and a 1995 letter thanking then-White House senior adviser Thomas F. "Mack" McLarty for Huckabee's visit at the White House with McLarty, President Clinton and others referred to a league meeting that would take place within a few weeks. Among the documents from Williams was the text of an article that appeared under Huckabee's byline with the headline "What Price Freedom?" in several newsletters of the
[CTRL] Resisting the Empire?
-Caveat Lector- I like his attitude..LOL Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Kent] Resisting the Empire? This interesting "heresy" just came in, what are your thoughts? Are we the rebel slaves taking on the Empire? 11/7/99 12:58:25 AM Pacific Standard Time JUST A FEW THINGS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER: 1. THE BULK OF THE REGIONS BEING ROCKED BY EARTHQUAKES ARE ALL AREAS OF OIL/PETROLEUM DRILLING AND/OR IRON MINING 2. IRON IS A NECESSARY COMPONENT OF ANY MAGNETIC FIELD RELATIONSHIP. THE EVENTUAL REDUCTION OF IRON IN THE EARTH WILL CREATE A DANGEROUS IMBALANCE IN THE MAGNETIC FIELD SURROUNDING THE PLANET. EARTH BECOMES ANEMIC. 3. OIL IS A LUBRICANT. IT EXISTS IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER TO PREVENT FRICTION BETWEEN MOVING, SOLID OBJECTS. DEPLETION RESULTS IN THERMAL STRESS OF ONE OBJECT AS THE OTHER OBJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE AGAINST IT. EARTH'S SKIN STARTS TO CRACK. 4. A HUGE NUMBER OF RECENT QUAKE SITES HAVE RECORDED THE DEPTH OF THE SEISMIC EVENT TO BE PRECISELY 33 KILOMETERS BELOW THE SURFACE...ROUGHLY THE EXACT ZONE WHICH MARKS THE DIVISION OF THE EARTH'S CRUST AND MANTLE. 5. WHY ALL THE ATTENTION BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO MAGNETIC FIELDS, VOLCANOES, AND MINERAL CONTENT OF OTHER PLANETS AND SATELLITES? 6. WHY IS MARS COVERED IN IRON OXIDE? 7. WHY IS THERE AN ANCIENT IRON PILLAR IN INDIA WHICH DOESN'T OXIDIZE? 8. WHY HAS MANKIND ALWAYS FELT A NEED TO MINE THE EARTH? 9. WHY DOES THE BIBLE INDICATE THAT "GOD" ORDERED THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE TO HIM THINGS OF IRON? WHY WILL CHRIST RULE WITH AN IRON SCEPTER? WHY WAS SATAN BOUND IN IRON FETTERS? FOR THAT MATTER, WHY IS IT REPEATEDLY STRESSED THAT CHRIST WAS THE "ANOINTED ONE" (ANOINTED WITH OIL)? 10. WHY DO SO MANY IMAGES OF OTHER WORLDS APPEAR AS THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN RAVAGED BY CARELESS STRIP-MINING? 11. WHY WAS A PICK-AXE EXCAVATED FROM A MINE AT A DEPTH WHICH SEEMINGLY SUGGESTS THAT IT WOULD BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD? 12. WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS TO ME THAT HUMANS ARE THE PITIFUL MINERS CREATED TO DO THE WORK OF ANOTHER RACE...WE HAVE BEEN UNDER THIS YOKE ON MANY WORLDS, FOR MUCH LONGER THAN WE CARE TO THINK...WE FEAR THE RETURN OF THE GODS FOR NEGLECTING OUR WORK...WE ARE THE SHOGGOTH. OH, AS AN ASIDE...IF SOME OF THESE WORDS UPSET SOMEONE EAVESDROPPING WHERE THEY SHOULD NOT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE SPINELESS WHORES WHO SOLD OUT TO A CHEAP PIMP. SLEEP WELL... --- ONElist Sponsor We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? (AngoAmerican Challenges Back).
-Caveat Lector- This AngloAmerican is challenging back. The Mussolini-Hitler created enclave of Vatican was set apart from a troubled Italy and Europe at least in part to preserve the culture. Today, Babylon II can be built as a modern enclave around the Babylon Restoration Project to preserve Iraqi culture and allow the nation to recoup from US-led genocide. Baghdad hasn't suffered this much devastation since the Mongol invasion and I have to wonder if the Mongol barbarity doesn't pale in comparison to the US. One of Iraq's biggest problems is "demoralization". Kuwait is building Subia, a city-anew for 260,000. The pope could ask the catholic community in Iraq to undertake the design of Babylon II as a modern enclave to lead the rehabilitation of Iraq. FWP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? -Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq? Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:32 PM I cannot help but recall that the Pope and his America Bishops preached incessantly against the Gulf War...no Blood for Oil. Pope tips hand on his proposed Catholic-Islamic Alliance vs. "Modernism" coming New World Order? Lloyd Miller From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Pope and Saddam, Together in Babylon -Caveat Lector- Uh ... What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast? Iraq Agrees To Receive Vatican Team By AHMAD SAMI .c The Associated Press BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Baghdad has agreed to a visit by Vatican officials this month to prepare for the proposed pilgrimage to Iraq by Pope John Paul II, the country's most senior Christian clergyman said Monday. Rafael Bedaweed, the head of nearly 750,000 Iraqi Christians, said he expected the pope to make his trip around Jan. 20. It is the most definitive date reported yet for the visit, which has been mired in uncertainty since last month, when the state media published a scathing attack on the pope by several Iraqi scholars who said the pontiff should not expect Muslims to cheer him. The government has yet to issue a formal invitation. The United States, Britain and Iraqi opposition figures have expressed fears that President Saddam Hussein's government will use the visit to boost its international standing after years of isolation. Bedaweed, who met Vatican officials last month, said the pope was determined to go ahead with the trip to Ur, the ancient Sumerian city believed to be the birthplace of the biblical patriarch Abraham, revered by Christians, Muslims and Jews. The visit is part of a proposed tour of pilgrimage sites in the Middle East, linked to the celebrations in 2000 when the church marks the start of Christianity's third millennium. A Vatican official who organizes the pope's foreign trips is expected to arrive in Baghdad by mid-November, leading a delegation of other Vatican officials, Bedaweed said. The visit has been approved by the government, he added. Government officials were not immediately available for comment. Earlier Monday, Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramdan downplayed the significance of a visit by the pope. ``We welcome anyone who wants to visit our country,'' he said when asked whether the government was keen to have the pope in Iraq. But Bedaweed, the Chaldean Catholic patriarch, said official talks about the visit were going on between Iraq-based Nuncio Monsignor Giuseppe Lazarotto and Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. Asked whether John Paul will meet Saddam, Bedaweed said: ``There are diplomatic relations between Iraq and the Vatican. So the pope is coming as head of state. It's necessary that the pope visit our president.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- Hoagland upping the stakes in disinformation war... # RITUAL SACRIFICE OF EGYPT AIR 990. A pattern of Egyptian motifs re: New York City - the "West Nile" virus, the "Black Madonna", the "Old Kingdom" artifacts display at the Met - indicates that EA990 was ritually killed. Numerological confirmation: http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm It really needs to be said - if we look real hard at anything we can see what we really want to see yet for an alleged PhD, Hoagland appears to have lost the meaning for the concept of ARBITRARY. This rubbish comes on top of his ridiculous allegations that DEEP IMPACT was the 7th of November would you buy a second hand car from this bunch its not logical Mr Spock.. far too many warped factors. I would advise him to klingon to his remaining street cred and save it for a much bigger load of hocus pocus that sounds too outrageous to be rubbish. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [FSNW-L] Banksters rob Habib bank
Monday 08 November 1999 London-UK (habib998) From: Parveez Syed Shanti Communications, Global Media Monitoring Unit One Stuart Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey CR7 8RA1 UK Telephone: London-UK 0044-(0)7831-196693 E-Mail INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 1999 (c) Shanti Communications news agency. All rights reserved. The following feature may not be republished or redistributed, in whole or in part. Copying, storing, transfer, redistribution, retransmission, publication and exploitation of this information is hereby expressly forbidden without the prior written consent of Shanti Communications UK. Section 326 of the USA-FCC Communications Act; Title 17 USC Section 107; Article 19 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the First Amendment US rights apply to all material, contents and ideas published and broadcaster by Shanti Communications and Shanti RTV news agency. Banksters rob Habib bank (editorial: habib998) by Parveez Syed (c) Shanti Communications news agency London, England (SC/SRTV) - Monday 08 November 1999 - One of the largest Pakistani banking group is being robbed by a new group of "greedy banksters" who are now set to fire more loyal staff; close its most profitable branches and sell assets to preserve their own gravy train. "This criminal mismanagement would leave 75 per cent Habib bank's British-Asian customers high and dry, and without viable community-banking service," a probing banking source told Shanti Communications news agency. "A new team of 44 banksters at Habib bank, for example, pay themselves more than 167,000 pounds every month, doing work which can be done by less then 20 people for 80,000 pounds a month," the source explained. "As a result of the banksters' incompetence and mismanagement, one branch alone lost four million pounds between March 1998 and September 1999," the source confirmed. "This particular branch won't be closing. It is where the banksters are based. Some people are more equal than others. The self-preserving banksters performed poorly in return for their fat pay cheques which they bank at rival banks. They failed to secure profitable business. They drove away Habib bank's mainstream customers including a large number of loyal depositors, reducing the turnover by 25 per cent. The banksters' annual office expenditure has increased by five times from 600,000 pounds to three million pounds," the source explained. Back in May 1998 Habib bank "fired 53 loyal employees and replaced them with a new team of 44 greedy; incompetent banksters who in turn hired their own over-paid unproductive cronies; friends; chums fans and charya-chumchas (spoons) who are now set to close most profitable branches. "We wonder who they are working for or serving? They have driven away our hard earned customers," the source said. "The banksters paid 250,000 pounds to a recruitment agency which has 'friendly' ties with the chief non-Pakistani bankster. Then another 'friendly' company was paid 500,000 for preparing a lousy business plan, advising Habib bank to close most profitable branches," the source confirmed. "A leased property, which is due to be demolished, was refurbished allegedly costing Habib bank 500,000 sterling pounds. The lease on the property is set to expire in 2001. The cheap refurb resulted in the bank being robbed twice, exposing cashiers to violent criminals. Another branch, which was also being refurbished, was robbed. The architect was paid 400,000 pounds for his efforts. A friendly legal advisor was paid 500,000 a year to recover 4,000 pounds, and he is still promising to recover debts abroad in return for a 33 per cent cut. One bank chief wasted 10,000 pounds on world cup cricket tickets for the friendly chumchas (spoons)," the source told Shanti RTV news agency. Habib bank's head office in Pakistan was recently forced to inject seven million pounds to "preserve the banksters' gravy train and antics. In recent years a rival Pakistani bank in the UK also hired many local banksters, who closed eight branches to preserve their gravy train," the source confirmed. Sources close to Pakistan's new leader Pervez Musharraf are said to be monitoring the banksters' ploys and performances. "The banksters' heads are set to roll as political appointees and fans of former premiers Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto, and Zardaris are under microscope at home and abroad," the source concluded. "Earlier this year the banksters tried to impose and sustain service management action plans without any extra resources. They tried to force employees to deliver unrealistic results. The move to close profitable UK branches proves the chiefs are working against the interest of the ethnic banking and the community. The closures would mean less choice for the bank's customers, reducing turnover and profits," the source added. "To make things worse, most Muslim banks have been squeezed by vulturistic American and British banksters and money laundering cartels, engineered
Re: [CTRL] Students Are Following the President's Example - A Liberal Education
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for further ammo in the arguments with people who think I'm a bad mother because I homeschool. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- yet for an alleged PhD, Hoagland That explains it. PhD stands for Piled Higher and Deeper. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sign Eagle Forum's petition to STOP the Panama Giveaway!
-Caveat Lector- Bard wrote: http://www.eagleforum.org/panama/petition/index.html Brothers and Sisters, Do your Duty and spread this far and wide. Bard Visit me at: http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm 10th Amendment "I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people' (10th Amendment). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible to any definition." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to George Washington,15 February, 1791 --- [www.eagleforum.org] Emergency Alert for American National Security eagleforum.org Read: Red China: Gatekeeper of the Panama Canal Panama the Biggest Blast of Y2K Admiral Moorer's Testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [Map of Panama] Charles R. Hazard/InsightTo: U.S. Senators and Representatives: We the undersigned urge you to reassert and reconfirm U.S. military presence in Panama in order to protect the Canal and to stop any future use of strategic bases or ports in Panama by the Communist Chinese. On December 31, 1999, Communist China is scheduled to take over a strategic beachhead in the Western Hemisphere -- a port at each end of our Panama Canal. We cannot allow this to happen because Communist China is the greatest national security threat to America for the foreseeable future. Right wing paranoia aside, Panama is not yours or congress's to make decisions about. Panama belongs to the Panamanian people to do with as they wish. Where do you come off thinking otherwise? Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links
-Caveat Lector- JAH Publications wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Joshua2, Please visit my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ and study it. Then you will find out how I know. I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a sensible and respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you said about me last week. Peace be upon you, JAH. Dear JAH, I looked at what I wrote below and don't see what I need to apologize for. BUT, I just glanced through your web site, and discovered that I do need to apologize to the other list members if I failed to call you a lunatic and by failing to do so, adding to your credibility in some way. Please forgive me CTRL for my dereliction of duty. My dog died. My wife left me and took my best Nintendo game with her. My kids threatened to take me off oxygen, and I lost the keys to my car. But I'm a trooper dammit. So here goes... JAH, there is NOTHING that I saw at your site that even resembles reality. I will say though, that it appears to be an ambitious undertaking by it's size. I suspect that you were paid by the word like Dickens was. It's clear that no one would pay for the content. I'll pass on the respectful dialogue stuff. I'm not interested in debating with you. But you should realize that when you post such drivel in a public forum, someone will challenge you on it. Peace, Joshua2 - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links -Caveat Lector- JAH Publications wrote: -Caveat Lector- That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming. JAH. How do you know this??? Joshua2 You still haven't explained how you KNOW what Satan is thinking. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Report from Iron Mountain
-Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- Report from Iron Mountain Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Received: by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP; Sat, 21 Dec 1991 16:35:19 +0100 Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15940; Sat, 21 Dec 91 10:35:09 -0500 Received: from nuchat.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 103447.9144; Sat, 21 Dec 1991 10:34:47 EST Received: by nuchat.sccsi.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.3) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 21 Dec 91 06:36 CST Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Dec 91 06:36 CST This was one of the initial articles posted to the newsgroup alt.war, I have apparently lost the message header. Apologies to the original poster. --- BACKGROUND: The paper reprinted in this posting was originally published in 1967 by the Dial Press as a short anonymous hardback called the "Report from Iron Mountain on the possibility and desirability of peace". Dial Press claimed that it was the final report of a US government-sponsored research panel and that it had been leaked to them by a panel member. I don't know if the authorship question was ever settled. Report From Iron Mountain is not for real . it was done as a literary joke by the author who says so in a preface to the new publications of the book. The ideas are very interesting though, and are worth reading. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tailwind - THE POWs, CIA and DRUGS: UGLIER TRUTHS BEHIND THE SARIN GAS STORIES
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart http://teamhouse.tni.net/ruppert.htm THE POWs, CIA and DRUGS UGLIER TRUTHS BEHIND THE SARIN GAS STORIES by Michael C. Ruppert Published 7-23-98 Did the CIA order the use of Sarin gas to kill American defectors in Southeast Asia? The answer to that question opens a black hole of ugly truths about US foreign policy and covert operations. Those truths all lead to a central reality, which is that covert and paramilitary operations, as conducted by the US Government, do not exist without drug trafficking. Equally tragic is the fact that drugs are a main reason why POWs didnit come home. The irony on the tragedy is that drugs were also used to fund several sabotaged covert missions to rescue them. The recent CNN reports on Operation Tailwind (referenced in the last issue of (From The Wilderness), their retraction and the object lessons made of CNN Producer April Oliver and Peter Arnett point to much uglier and deeper truths about CIA covert operations than the fact that CIA used nerve gas to kill defectors and deserters in Southeast Asia. As From The Wilderness will show, there is a high probability that Sarin gas was used not only against defectors, but also against unwilling prisoners of war whom the government had decided would be a major embarrassment if they came home alive. Testimony and evidence exists to show that Sarin was in Laos at the time and that it was used at or near known POW camps in Laos. If true, those facts would shed a whole new light on the CNN stories. Those stories, flawed in their presentation, not only hinted at an ongoing feud between elements of the Navy and CIA, but came dangerously close to far more devastating truths about the CIA's involvement in the abandonment and murder of US servicemen left behind after Vietnam. Those truths undeniably lead back to the drug trade, the Central Intelligence Agency and the covert operatives who have destroyed American democracy. How does one tie the convoluted pieces together in a coherent manner? And, doing that, how does one stomach wanton betrayal of loyal Americans and values which are the foundation of any government's legitimacy? A government derives its right to exist from its mandate to protect its own people, especially those who risk life to serve it. What legitimacy then, does a government have which betrays and then sentences to death those who stood in the font lines of its exercise of power? First, let's address the issue of whether or not CIA, MACV-SOG and elements in the Pentagon wanted POW's dead or, at minimum, to ensure that they never came home? Many of the ugliest truths about deliberate US abandonment or ordered extermination of POWs are extremely well documented in Monika Jensen- Stevenson's 1990 bestseller, Kiss The Boys Goodbye (Dutton). Stevenson, a former Emmy award winning Producer for CBS News' 60 Minutes, produced mountains of eyewitness statements, documents, and even admissions from Ronald Reagan and other White House officials as well as from intelligence experts in the Pentagon and the National Security Council showing that: the US knowingly left POWs behind in Southeast Asia in 1973; the US government sabotaged at least a half dozen rescue attempts with high probabilities for success; and that, the US government ordered covert operatives to "liquidate" live POWs if sighted. On Pages 318-323, Stevenson described a failed 1981 POW rescue mission involving the perennial "covert source" (and often hard to fathom) Scott Barnes who wrote a book about the mission entitled BOHICA (Bend Over Here It Comes Again). After passing polygraph and truth serum exams Barnes recounted how he had been issued atropine (nerve gas antidote) injectors as a prelude to entering areas in Laos where POW camps were known to exist. He also states that, once in the region, he was ordered to "liquidate the merchandise." "Merchandise" was the code word for POWs. (NOTE: Atropine was issued to US troops in the Persian Gulf war to counter anticipated Sarin attacks by Iraq). If Barnes' statement was not enough, his return from the mission was immediately followed by the alleged violent suicide of Army chemical warfare and Sarin gas expert General Bobby Robinson. Local police doubted the suicide findings of the military. What's more, Robinson was known to have been involved in moving Sarin supplies into the region at the time. Stevenson confirmed this. Sources postulated a cover story to Stevenson that Robinson had been planting Sarin gas to blame the Soviets for its use and thus motivate Congress to increase chemical warfare budgets. Such operations are not unusual in covert operations and are hardly grounds for a suicide. As one source put it to me. "It's much more likely that Robinson could have exposed the use of his Sarin to kill Americans and he had to be killed -- especially if he found out what his precious chemical
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Andrew Hennessey wrote: It really needs to be said - if we look real hard at anything we can see what we really want to see yet for an alleged PhD, Hoagland appears to have lost the meaning for the concept of ARBITRARY. He's not "an alleged PhD." Where did you get that idea? This rubbish comes on top of his ridiculous allegations that DEEP IMPACT was the 7th of November would you buy a second hand car from this bunch its not logical Mr Spock.. far too many warped factors. I would advise him to klingon to his remaining street cred and save it for a much bigger load of hocus pocus that sounds too outrageous to be rubbish. Sadly, I tend to agree with you, i.e., Hoagy has fallen all the way off my "contemporary hero" list:( I tried to give him the benefit of ALL the MANY doubts for a LONG LONG time now, but I just can't do it any more. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3/CS
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/07/1999 8:55:42 AM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 5 Nov 99, at 20:55, Ric Carter wrote: # Expert warns against superbug 'epidemic' (BBC) A potentially fatal superbug which is resistant to many antibiotics has reached "epidemic" levels in UK hospitals, according to a public health official. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_505000/505710.stm And Prudy tells me that Colloidal Silver has just been declared useless and illegal and will no longer be sold in health food stores, etc. If you don't already know how to make it, I would research it on the web NOW and get those directions down before they all disappear-- that is, if they haven't vanished already. sno0wl snoOwl, I owe you a great debt of gratitude for posting here long ago that it is possible to make CS at home. There is a most excellent email list specifically for CS -- how to make it, how to judge results, etc. Here's some list info: The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List maintainer: Mike Devour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Failure
-Caveat Lector- Didn't the Defence Dpmt install a Mac system... and Y2K is not a problem with Mac right? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Failure -Caveat Lector- On 7 Nov 99, at 0:47, Nicky Molloy wrote: The computer system used by the White House and top commanders to plan and execute major military missions has not proven ready for 2000, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday. With two months until the new year, the audit raises important questions about the military's preparedness to deal with the prospect that crucial computers could malfunction when their internal calendars roll over to 2000. How on earth are they gonna put the nation under martial law if their computers don't even work? Somehow I keep believing we will actually be saved by human error and incompetence. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [endsecrecy] E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right'
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right' Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 11:23 AM From Skywatch; From: "Dunn, Steven J." [EMAIL PROTECTED] October 26 1999 The Times (London): E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right' By Frances Gibb, Legal Editor PROPOSED new powers for the police to unscramble encoded e-mail messages are in breach of the Government's own laws on human rights, a report concludes. An audit by Justice, the human rights group, of the Electronic Communications Bill finds it to be defective and likely to breach human rights. The Bill, which is aimed at encouraging electronic commerce and online delivery of government services, also allows the police access to private e-mails. But an audit of the Bill by Justice, to see if it complies with the Human Rights Act 1998, shows that the Government has "wrongly opted" for the widest police powers, enabling open-ended interception of encrypted material. The legal opinion, obtained by Justice from Professor Jack Beatson, QC, a former Law Commissioner, and Tim Eicke, a barrister, says that this will have the inevitable consequence of compromising "the affected individual's whole security and privacy apparatus". Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer games accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1142 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/endsecrecy http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [FP] FW: PostalWatch Update and Action Alert
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: ScanThisNews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ScanThisNews Recipients List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FP] FW: PostalWatch Update and Action Alert Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 4:22 PM == SCAN THIS NEWS 10/11/99 [Forwarded message] ** WEEKLY UPDATE ** PostalWatch Incorporated 3631 Virginia Beach Blvd., # 100 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Toll-free hotline - 1-877-5postal (877-576-7825) Website: http://www.postalwatch.org Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** THIS WEEKLY UPDATE SPONSORED BY * PostalWatch is now offering several corporate sponsorship opportunities including exclusive" sponsorship of our "Weekly Updates." For more information and pricing on PostalWatch sponsorship opportunities please send your contact information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * THIS WEEK in Postal Land (week ending 10/10/99) ** * PMB ADDRESS REQUIREMENT MAY BE DEAD, "SORT OF" * CMRA "INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES" CLAMOR TO CLAIM CREDIT * HOUSE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE TO HOLD HEARINGS * OP-ED ON HOUSE LEADERSHIP'S INTEREST IN CMRA ISSUE * ACTION ALERT: DON'T GET LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF VICTORY * * PMB MAY BE DEAD! We expect the incoming Chief Postal Inspector Ken Weaver to announce as early as next week that the infamous "scarlet letter" designation "PMB" will NOT be required on mail received by a private box holder after April 26, 2000. This latest modification to the regulations is expected to allow the box holder the option of using the # (number sign) in the address instead of the acronym "PMB." This latest morphing of these ever changing regulations will still ban the use of anything other than the "# sign" or "PMB." Box holders currently using Suite, STE, Apartment, APT or anything other than # or PMB will still be required to change their address and all their office supplies. We caution everyone not to get overly excited quite yet: first of all this is not official yet and our friends at the Postal Service have been known to pull "180 degree turns" in the past. Secondly although this is a good step, it is not as big of a victory as it may look on the surface (more on this issue later). * CMRA "INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES" are falling all over each other in their attempts to claim credit for this latest "PMB" victory. The fact of the matter is that credit for this latest victory as well as every other concession gained so far belongs to YOU, the individual box holders and the "dissident" CMRA operators who continue to bombard Washington with cards, letters, faxes and calls. If it were not for pressure being exerted on the Postal Service by Congress created by YOUR letters, there would be NO concessions from the Postal Service. There are several folks who also deserve credit and special thanks, however: Congressman Ron Paul (R, TX) for introducing House Joint Resolution 55 on principal, at a time when few on Capitol Hill had even heard the term CMRA. Congressman Todd Tiahrt (R, KS) for his valiant attempt to block Postal Service appropriations and for his continued congressional support. All fifty-seven (57) cosponsors of House Joint Resolution 55 with special thanks to Jim Turner (D, TX), Barbara Lee (D, CA), Cynthia McKinney (D, GA), Tom Udall (D, NM), Carolyn Maloney (D, NY), Maurice Hinchey (D, NY), Jay Inslee (D, WA) and Brian Baird (D, WA) who have demonstrated the political courage to reach across the aisle on behalf of their constituents and make this a bipartisan issue. House Committee on Small Business Chairman Jim Talent and Regulatory Reform and Paperwork Reduction Subcommittee Chairwoman Sue Kelly for their relentless pursuit of the facts surrounding the enactment of these regulations. Office of Advocacy, Small Business Administration for their continued support and aggressive pursuit of a balanced and fair resolution to this issue. The National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, the National Federation for Independent Business, the National Coalition for the Homeless, the National Association for the Self Employed and the US Chamber of Commerce for their continued support and dedication of public affairs resources to this issue. Rhonda Abrams, the Gannett News Service Small Business Columnist who recently convinced the Postal Service that the "PMB" designation is unnecessary, and that less burdensome means of protection for large mailers and consumers is already available. * HOUSE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE TO HOLD HEARINGS. The Subcommittee on Regulatory Reform and Paperwork Reduction Chaired by Sue Kelly (R, NY) will hold Congressional Hearings to investigate the CMRA regulations on the 19th of October. Information on the Subcommittee and testimony following the hearing can be found on their website at
[CTRL] Web pirates steal latest Bond film
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999 "The Sunday Times/A - Web pirates steal latest Bond film John Harlow and York Membery THE internet bootleggers are more than a match for James Bond. A copy of one of the most widely trailed blockbusters of the year - the latest 007 film, The World Is Not Enough - has been stolen before its official release and is available free over the web. Investigators believe this is the first time a top film has fallen victim to internet thieves before it has reached the cinemas. Experts suspect the internet version may have been copied from a trade tape sent across the Atlantic between film executives. Although it would take four days to download the film into an ordinary computer, users with ISDN telephone lines are able to make a copy overnight and then "burn" it onto a video CD, which could be watched on any home computer. For film studios it is a nightmare come true. George Lucas, producer of the Star Wars films, said he had believed the technology would not exist for several years - but Star Wars: the Phantom Menace was being downloaded on British computers within 24 hours of its American premiere and sold on videotape at street markets before it opened here. At least Star Wars had a chance to make money before the thieves get hold of it. The 19th Bond adventure is not due for release until November 18 and will be shown first in the Far East, rather than Los Angeles or London, specifically to head off bootleggers. UPI, which paid millions of pounds to distribute it, launched an investigation last week to find how a secretive film collectors' club got hold of a video-quality copy and put it on the internet. The club's website could be accessed only by people who were given its seven-digit address as a reward for supplying it with early copies of films. The site has been closed, but the film is being duplicated in ever-wider circles. The theft was not for profit, but part of a long-running rivalry between hackers such as the Inner Circle, a global band of internet fanatics who pride themselves on distributing copies of films, computer games and software before their official release. Eon, the company behind the Bond film, is playing down the theft - but executives are furious. "We have put a lot of effort into the security around this film and it's deeply frustrating," said one American executive this weekend. Other movies available include Fight Club, starring Brad Pitt, The Blair Witch Project, The Sixth Sense and George Clooney's Gulf war film Three Kings, not due for British release until the spring. Lavinia Carey, director-general of the British Video Association, said film bootlegging was a £2 billion business. Video piracy is thought to be worth £130m a year in Britain. In Malaysia, illicit copies outnumber originals by four to one. Most film companies believe distribution of films over the internet is inevitable. Cliff Stanford, who made his fortune with the British internet service provider Demon, is working with Microsoft to produce technology to allow films to be sent live into ordinary computers. Tests will begin next year. "Once that technology is in place, it will be hijacked by the pirates," said one expert. "They are in it for the technical challenge rather than the money - which is why not even James Bond can beat them." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next page: Robbie Williams wants to play 007 Robbie Williams wants to play 007 Next: Grammars stay top of the league Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard terms and conditions. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Sunday Times, visit the Syndication website. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe
[CTRL] Scroll names Jesus as sect member
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999 "The Sunday Times/A - November 7 1999 MIDDLE EAST Scroll names Jesus as sect member Matthew Kalman Jerusalem SINCE their discovery almost half a century ago, the Dead Sea scrolls have fascinated biblical scholars. The mystery surrounding them has deepened, however, with claims that a hitherto unknown scroll, which threatens to challenge the originality of Christian theology, was spirited out of the Holy Land and ended up in the hands of Benedictine monks, who tried to suppress its contents. According to a bizarre tale that has unfolded over the past few weeks in Israel, the so-called Angel scroll was found by a Bedouin tribesman in Jordan in the late 1960s on the eastern shore opposite the Qumran caves, where the Dead Sea scrolls made famous by the late Professor Yigael Yadin were discovered in ancient pottery jars several years earlier. The Bedouin is then said to have sold it to an antiquities dealer in the Jordanian capital, Amman. As news of the find circulated, scholars began frantic talks to buy the scroll through an intermediary, an international arms dealer identified only as Ziyad H. It was then that a German Benedictine monk - named as Matheus Gunther, which is believed to be a pseudonym - became involved. Armed with huge sums of Benedictine money, he allegedly negotiated for a year and was finally allowed a 3mm fragment of the scroll. Finally, in 1981, the deal was completed and the scroll, bearing 1,000 lines of mixed text, was smuggled out of Jordan to a Benedictine monastery somewhere near the German- Austrian border, to be studied by a team of monks who had taken a vow of silence. Gunther died in 1996, but is said to have bequeathed his notes and a copy of the text to an Israeli friend known as Steve Daniels. For the past three years, Daniels has been allegedly preparing it for publication, together with two other Israelis who knew the monk. According to the two Israelis - one of whom spoke to The Sunday Times on condition of anonymity - the text contradicts the official origins of Christianity and is so explosive that church authorities decided to suppress it. Gunther could not bear to see it left mouldering in the vaults, they claimed, and he decided that his vow of silence should be broken after his death. "I saw in this scroll the crowning achievement of my scholarly work and of my religious mission," the monk wrote in his notes, some of which were shown to the Jerusalem Report, a leading Israeli news magazine. "I promised that I would not carry to my grave the secrets of this remarkable scroll." The text, said to have been carbon-dated to the 1st century, supposedly describes a religious vision experienced at Ein Elgatain, a desert encampment on the eastern shore of the Dead Sea, by Yeshua ben Padiah, who was taken by an angel, Panameia, through the gates of a palace and into the heavens. Yeshua is Hebrew for Jesus. It is said to mirror the teachings of Jesus to such an extent that it calls their originality into question. Many of the ideas described in the scroll imply that Jesus was heavily influenced by, or even a member of, the Essenes sect widely credited with writing the Dead Sea scrolls. Scholars who have studied excerpts from a computerised transcript are divided over the text's authenticity, however. To give a definitive answer, they say they must first see the original - or at least a photograph. "If it is the real thing, we'll be talking about something phenomenally important to understanding the background of Christianity and Jewish mysticism," said Professor Stephen Pfann of the University of the Holy Land, an expert on the scrolls. "I haven't yet seen anything that discredits it in such a way that I would put it outside the realms of possibility." Pfann, who has translated some of the text into English, said that Yeshua's vision contained many concepts similar to the other Dead Sea scrolls. It is dated some 100 years later, however, indicating it was written during, or shortly after, Jesus's lifetime. Many scholars are still unconvinced. "The text itself is very queer. There is Hebrew with Aramaic words," said Magen Broshi, former curator of the Jerusalem museum that holds the Dead Sea scrolls. "The whole thing is so strange and I think, if I were about to commit a forgery, this is what I would have done." Another problem authenticating the story has been tracing Gunther's origins. Father Bargil Pixner, a Benedictine monk and scholar in Israel, said he never knew of any such monk and was "very sceptical" about the story. In favour of the monk's account, however, is the supposed content of the Angel scroll. The text is said to contain embalming recipes for resurrection and the use of herbs and stones for healing, practices attributed to the Essenes by the Jewish historian
[CTRL] Conspiracy Authors - Submissions Invited.
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:568150"Conspiracy Authors - Submissions Invited./A - Subject: Conspiracy Authors - Submissions Invited. From: "Meirion" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"meirionhughes@bt internet.com/A Date: Fri, 05 November 1999 07:54 PM EST Message-id: 7vvum6$q11$[EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.powpublish.com/writers.htm"http://www.powpublish.com/writ ers.htm/A is currently looking for full length book proposals from Conspiracy Theory Authors. We are not Vanity Publishers. Authors are paid by us, not asked to pay. By the same token, we seek well thought-out and professionally written material. If you have been blacklisted by conventional publishers, or have a book that publishers just don't want to touch - try us. At the very least you will get an honest opinion. In the case of authors with "privileged" information, we will assist with the writing side, and drag you through an agonising editorial process to help you present the truth. We also act as agents on all subsidiary rights to help you maximise earnings. For those of you who "know someone" who fits this bill - please pass this on to them. best wishes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Click Here: A HREF="http://www.powpublish.com/writers.htm"Power Publishing Writers' Guidelines Page/A - New Science Fiction available now. Horror, Thrillers, Westerns, Crime, Romance, War, Non-Fiction - coming soon Writers' Guidelines Welcome to all writers, whether you are already established or unknown. Welcome to the future for publishing. Read this page to see what we are looking for, and how you will get paid if your work is accepted. About Us. We do not accept all work submitted to us and we do not charge fees to authors. We pay authors a royalty of 50% of the selling price of their work and offer a one-stop shop to a global market. We are therefore looking for top-quality writing. Who we are looking for: We are looking for established and new writers whose work will quickly grab and maintain the attention of the reader. Because we access a global market, we expect work to possess either cross-cultural appeal within the English speaking nations, or to have a particular quality enabling it to cross borders and oceans easily. Writers should have a grasp of the global market and possess a definite profile of the reader group or groups at whom their work is aimed. Worthy authors whose books have "gone out of print" in the conventional publishing market, or fallen foul of "short print run syndrome", and where rights have reverted to the author, should consider Power Publishing as an opportunity to give their work a new, money-earning lease of life and on a global market. (We accept US or British spelling conventions, provided that consistency is applied throughout the work.) We will also consider submissions from collections/omnibus editors or packagers. Our royalty agreement in such cases will apply to the editor/packager and all responsibilities for rights and payments due to authors will rest with the editor/packager. Hard copies of rights agreements and/or permissions are required to be lodged with Power Publishing prior to publication. What we are looking for: Fiction. Works fitting our categories of science fiction, horror, thrillers, romance, crime and war from authors who have done their apprenticeships and have a real grasp of the craft. If you have fiction that does not fit a current category, we will still consider it and possibly create a new category or imprint. Crossovers are also fine (for example you could have a science fiction story set in the wild west - a Sci-Fi Western). Unlike some conventional publishers we will not stifle imaginative work because it does not fit into some marketing director's concept of branding. We will accept books and novels from 60,000 to 150,000+ words; short stories from 3,000 to 15,000+ words, but only in collections of short stories with a total word count of not less than 60,000 words. We cannot accept individual short stories at this time. We will not accept screenplays, poetry or children's books. We cannot publish formula material such as "Star Trek", "Dr.Who", "Star Wars" etc. Non-Fiction War; biographies; alternative history; fortean; esotericism; conspiracy theory; ufology; spiritual (mind and spirit etc.); revisionist history. Arts: Illustrated works in electronic format only. We are especially looking for interesting War Biographies from combat veterans. True life experiences should be written in ways that significantly contribute to human understanding of the realities of warfare. Care should be taken in respect of the laws pertaining to military secrecy within the author's state. Biographies or Autobiographies about or from celebrities and leading or interesting figures. (Unofficial-Biography writers will be required to accept full legal responsibility for their work in terms of the
[CTRL] Urban Legends= CIA site (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: "VGammill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 Subj: [RF]: Urban Legends= CIA site **Exclusive** Dear Friend: Many of you have probably received e-mails in the past claiming to be from dying cancer patients or warning you of some new computer virus. Upon forwarding these incredible stories to your friends and family, some smart alec may forward you a reference to some so-called "urban legends" website which claims to have proof debunking these stories. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THESE URBAN LEGENDS WEBSITES! Recent research has revealed that many urban legends books and websites are actually urban legends themselves. Oftentimes the stories you read in forwarded e-mail messages, as incredible as they may seem, are absolutely TRUE. It is the claim that these stories are urban legends which is FALSE. Why, you may ask, would anyone do such a thing? Why spend valuable time and money creating a site only to deceive innocent Internet users? The reason for doing this is that many world governments (including the United States government) have a strong vested interest in deceiving "the masses." For instance, many alleged "urban legends" deal with true events that are potentially embarassing and incriminating to the government (UFO sightings, government experimentation on humans, etc.). What better way to keep these kinds of covert operations secret than to spread rumors that they are actually just "urban legends"? Doing this results in the more educated--and, therefore, more politically influential--groups in society believing that they know the "real" truth, when in fact they could not be more deceived. How did we discover that the government is intentionally using Internet urban legend websites to deceive the public? We did so by accessing a freely-available but relatively-unknown database of all Internet domain names and their respective owners. The entry for http://www.urbanlegends.com, which claims to be an urban-legend debunking site, clearly shows that this site is controlled by the government: Domain Name: URBANLEGENDS.COM Registrant: United States Central Intelligence Agency Branch Office #311 P.O. Box 5752 Washington, DC 20015 Administrative Contact: Heimbaugh, Jason R., Colonel (JRH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 217 863 2001 Record last updated on 02-Apr-98. Database last updated on 24-Jan-99 06:52:55 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.ADVANCENET.NET 205.198.248.3 DNS.ADVANCENET.NET 205.198.248.4 Furthermore, you can even contact Col. Heimbaugh, the "administrative contact" for this domain at the e-mail address in the record above ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He freely admits to being a retired military officer and a current employee of the CIA. He refused to comment on the www.urbanlegends.com website, saying that its purpose was "classified," yet insisted that the CIA was merely trying to "keep the American public properly informed by discrediting allegations that could jeopardize the ability of our leaders to govern effectively." By this he can only mean one thing: the U.S. government is using Internet urban legends websites to deceive the public. We have recently learned that the following other Internet urban legends sites are also owned and operated by the government: http://urbanlegends.tqn.com/ http://www.scambusters.org/legends.html http://www.snopes.com/ We believe that it is essential that this information be properly disseminated so that people can learn the truth. When we attempted to publicize this information by creating a website of our own, the site was shut down due to a "permanent TCP/IP routing error" and all of our data was destroyed. Thus, sending this information out by e-mail has become our last hope. PLEASE SEND THIS MESSAGE TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! This information is too important to be ignored. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Dr. Geoffrey Limache Dr. Leroy Taho DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Thank you
From: "Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED] happy to be of service. I personally doubt that CONCLUSIVE proof of authorship of the report is possible. Here is a comment on the issue you've raised, authored by the fine folks at NameBase http://www.blythe.org/NameBase/ http://www.pir.org/ (check out their FOIA docs section... anyone ever seen the 1951 Academy Award nominated movie "I was a Communist agitator for the FBI?) (much of the information below is echoed in TODAY's news, such as the article I forwarded about e-war (electronic warfare) and "non-lethal" weapons. [Filed as: "Brandt-Infowar" 6 October 1995] Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit From NameBase NewsLine, No. 11, October-December 1995 Infowar and Disinformation: From the Pentagon to the Net by Daniel Brandt In 1967, a satire was published under the title "Report From Iron Mountain on the Possibility and Desirability of Peace." This analysis soberly reflected, in think-tank style, on the importance to society of waging war. Leonard Lewin, who pretended that the secret report was leaked and did not claim authorship until five years later, argued forcefully that war provides a type of social and psychological glue, without which society cannot function. "Roughly speaking," Lewin writes, "the presumed power of the 'enemy' sufficient to warrant an individual sense of allegiance to a society must be proportionate to the size and complexity of the society. Today, of course, that power must be one of unprecedented magnitude and frightfulness."[1] Lewin's tongue-in-cheek premise is that before peace breaks out, it becomes urgent to find substitutes for war. They say that life imitates art. Almost 30 years later, Lewin's claim of authorship is lost amid the general enthusiasm over the manuscript. Dog-eared copies of "Report from Iron Mountain" are passed around by patriots and militia groups as if it were the secret plan from above.[2] This provides liberal critics of "conspiracism" a good chuckle or two. But it's not at all clear who will laugh last. As a predictor of the capacity of elites to manage public opinion, and to deal with stubborn fringe groups, populists can do worse than to study this 100-page volume. Already there's an effort underway to replace the Cold War in the hearts and minds of Middle America. The ruling class has to do something. Patriots in camo were easily managed when they had commies to kick around. After these patriots struck out "Communism" on the their enemies list, next up was "Council on Foreign Relations" and similar organizations. This is proving temporarily inconvenient for the global managers. One Cold War substitute might be Information Warfare. Novelist Tom Clancy, a hard-line conservative and close pal of Bob Woodward (media elites with spook connections transcend party politics), has the evil Japanese planting a stock-exchange software bomb in "Debt of Honor" (1994). Dain Gary, manager of the Pentagon-funded Computer Emergency Response Team in Pittsburgh, remarks at a conference sponsored by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, that there are universities in Bulgaria that teach how to create more effective viruses.[3] A cover story in Time magazine touts "cyberwar," the latest Pentagon fad.[4] "Hackers are even better than communists," says one Washington activist who deals with civil rights and electronic privacy issues. Much of the Time story describes game-playing scenarios that are currently popular at military think tanks. Designed to simulate future capabilities, these games serve to identify potential vulnerabilities in U.S. communications and information systems. As soon as this issue of Time appeared, however, one reporter recommended it as confirmation of his own story (see sidebar). Until recently a senior editor at Forbes, this reporter gave up the good life in exchange for a fan club on Internet conspiracy newsgroups. His story relies on spooky sources who see infowar -- in the form of CIA hackers sucking out Swiss bank accounts -- as something that's been going on for two years now.[5] Life imitates art. Military professionals recognize that information technology is leading to new modes of warfare. One Pentagon general described the 1989 operation in Panama, when the command centers were "noisy places where a lot of people ran around and there were little sticky things that were put on acetate maps," and compared these to the Haiti operation, when commands were issued over video links. Between Panama and Haiti, the Gulf War's smart bombs with nose cameras popularized infowar on the battlefield. Even Tom Clancy's fans were impressed. Defense industries, feeling the squeeze of shrinking budgets, are also climbing on board. As the leader in information technology, as well as the cop on the international beat, America finds itself with a new opportunity to spend billions
[CTRL] books articles on CIA (lots of DRUGS and WARFARE, natch)
-Caveat Lector- Literature on CIA Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart SOURCE DOCUMENTS -- BOOKS, MAGAZINES, NEWSPAPERS, OTHERS AA Robbins, C. (1979). AIR AMERICA. New York: G.P. Putnam. AAC Robbins, C. (1979). AIR AMERICA (Corgi edition). New York: G.P. Putnam. AAPFL ALLEGED ASSASSINATION PLOTS INVOLVING FOREIGN LEADERS. U.S. Senate Interim Report of the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations. (November 20, 1975). Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office. AC Hamilton, N. (1987). ACCUSED R. CRAIG SMITH: THE SPY LEFT OUT IN THE COLD. Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers. ACD Schwarz, B. (1991). AMERICAN COUNTERINSURGENCY DOCTRINE AND EL SALVADOR: THE FRUSTRATIONS OF REFORM AND THE ILLUSIONS OF NATION BUILDING. Santa Monica, CA: RAND's National Defense Research Institute. ACO Minter, W. (1994). APARTHEID'S CONTRAS: AN INQUIRY INTO THE ROOTS OF WAR IN ANGOLA AND MOZAMBIQUE. London, England. ZED Books Ltd. AATTMcCann, T. (1976). AN AMERICAN COMPANY: THE TRAGEDY OF UNITED FRUIT NY: Crown Publishers, Inc. AD Lee, M.A., Shlain, B. (1985). ACID DREAMS. New York: Grove Press, Inc. AESTRichelson, J. (1987). AMERICAN ESPIONAGE AND THE SOVIET TARGET. New York: William Morrow Company, Inc. AFB Robinson, W. (1992). A FAUSTIAN BARGAIN: U.S. INTERVENTION IN THE NICARAGUAN ELECTIONS AND AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN THE POST-COLD WAR ERA. Boulder, CO: Westview Press. AHS Emerson, S. (1985). THE AMERICAN HOUSE OF SAUD: THE SECRET PETRODOLLAR CONNECTION. New York: Franklin Watts 1985. AG Ranelagh, J. (1986). THE AGENCY. New York: Simon Shuster. AIC Tully, A. (1962). CIA: THE INSIDE STORY. NY: Fawcett Crest. AIF Barry, T., Preusch, D. (1986). AIFLD IN CENTRAL AMERICA Albuquerque, NM: The Resource Center. AINFBrowning, S. (1990). AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE FAILURE IN PRE-REVOLUTIONARY IRAN. Unpublished manuscript, Bates College, Department of History, Lewiston, Maine. AME Wilber, N. (1986). ADVENTURES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Princeton, NJ: The Darwin Press, Inc. AOE Linderer, G. (1991). THE EYES OF THE EAGLE: F COMPANY LRPs IN VIETNAM, 1968. NY: Ivy Books. AOM Blumberg, N. (1984). THE AFTERNOON OF MARCH 30. Big Fork, Montana: Wood Fire Ashes Press. AOI Corson, W.R. (1977). ARMIES OF IGNORANCE. New York: The Dial Press/James Wade Books. APA Green, F. (1988). AMERICAN PROPAGANDA ABROAD. NY: Hippocrene Books. AS Spector, R. (1985). UNITED STATES ARMY IN VIETNAM ADVICE AND SUPPORT: THE EARLY YEARS 1941-1960. Center of Military History, U.S. Army, Washington, D.C. ASESRichelson, J. (1990). AMERICA'S SECRET EYES IN SPACE: THE U.S. KEYHOLE SPY SATELLITE PROGRAM. HarperBusiness. ASP Johnson, L.K. (1989). AMERICA'S SECRET POWER. New York: Oxford University Press. AWA Chomsky, N. (1970). AT WAR WITH ASIA. New York: Vintage Books. BB Simpson, C. (1988). BLOWBACK. New York: Weidenfeld Nicolson. BBAIC Uribe, A. (English translation, 1975). THE BLACK BOOK OF AMERICAN INTERVENTION IN CHILE. Boston, MA: Beacon Press. BBBLSmith, R.E., Caulfield, D., Crook, D., Gershman, M. (1984). BIG BROTHER BOOK OF LISTS. Los Angeles: Price/Stern/Sloan Publishers, Inc. BC WEINER, T. (1990). BLANK CHECK: THE PENTAGON'S BLACK BUDGET. New York: Warners Books. BCASBULLETIN OF CONCERNED ASIAN SCHOLARS, (most issues). Boulder, CO. BCCISenate Foreign Relations Committee. (December, 1992). THE BCCI AFFAIR. Washington, D.C. BCD Copeland, M. (1975). BEYOND CLOAK AND DAGGER. New York: Pinnacle Books, Inc. BET Weiner, T., Johnston, D., and Lewis, A. (1995). BETRAYAL: THE STORY OF ALDRICH AMES, AN AMERICAN SPY. NY: Random House. BF Schlesinger, S., Kinzer, S. (1983). BITTER FRUIT. Garden City, NY: Anchor Press/Doubleday. BFA Baritz, L. (1985). BACKFIRE. New York: Ballantine Books. BFI Ridenour, R. (1991). BACK FIRE: THE CIA'S BIGGEST BURN. Havana, Cuba: Jose Marti Publishing House. BFMTZamoisky, L. (1989). BEHIND THE FACADE OF THE MASONIC TEMPLE (V. Nemodruk Trans.). Moscow, USSR: Progress Publishers. BG Corn, D. (1994). BLOND GHOST: TED SHACKLEY ADN THE CIA'S CRUSADES. NY: Simon Schuster. BLP Martin, D. Walcott, J. (1988). BEST LAID PLANS: THE INSIDE STORY OF AMERICA'S WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. NY: Harper Row, Publishers. BOL Walker, et al. BOOK OF LISTS. BOP Wyden, P. (1979). BAY OF PIGS THE UNTOLD STORY. NY: Simon and Schuster. BOPIHaynes, J.
[CTRL] Echelon: listening to our phone calls, too? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: Paul Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wired: Echelon 'Confirmation:' Not This story in Wired (at least online) contests a BBC article I mailed to you a few days ago. Steven Aftergood and John Gilmore are both quoted in the Wired article as saying that Bill Blick's comments only refer to the interception of radio signals - something readily apparent from reading the BBC article and not requiring expert interpretation - and that Blick did not confirm anything else. Wired is right - the quoted material did not support the journalist's article. If Blick said nothing more than was quoted, BBC really didn't have much to write an article about. However, the Wired article goes on to cast doubts on the existence of an NSA telephone interception system. Wired's editors should know better. "Those who have maintained Echelon exists say that its reach into the lives of private citizens is especially sinister. The network, believed to have close ties to the US National Security Agency..." Close ties indeed. The BBC journalist, by not mentioning other evidence pointing to the existence of such a system (which has in one form or another existed for more than 30 years), left himself wide open, and Wired took advantage of that to imply that it's all just a hoax. The BBC author also quoted Duncan Campbell out of context, I believe, since Campbell maintains that "word spotting" is too difficult for the NSA to do on a large scale. (as I've said before, I don't believe this can be proven either way and don't find his IC2000 report to be convincing) By the way, the "jam echelon" campaign mentioned in the Wired article was apparently led by Linda Thompson, the producer of an controversial underground video about the Waco massacre, and one of the leaders of the U.S. "militia movement." Thompson imagines that the the FBI goons responsible for the Waco attack were inflitrated by militia supporters, and that the footage shows agents shooting at other agents. I think she's a nut. Now that I've got all that off my chest, I'm writing a letter to Bob Barr. I think we can all agree that whatever ECHELON is called, and whatever it's capable of, it's time for a congressional inquiry into what exactly it is the NSA does with all those 90,000 employees and $ 4 billion budget. I'll bet they're intercepting telephone calls and analzying them with computers. ed. comment: I've been suspicious for a long time that Linda Thompson at best is being exploited in a discrediting-the-enemy role and at worst is an intentional pro-dark forces agitprop mule/ http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/echelon.htm Echelon 'Confirmation:' Not by Chris Oakes 11:45 a.m. 3.Nov.1999 PST Spy and security experts yawned at reported comments by an Australian intelligence official that Project Echelon -- the name of a purported international surveillance network -- exists. But the statements by Australia's inspector general of intelligence, Bill Blick, did fuel one US congressman's call for his government to investigate the possible existence of the secret project. "If these reports are accurate, the sheer power and potential for abuse created by Project Echelon demands congressional attention," Representative Bob Barr (R-Georgia) said in a statement released by his office early Wednesday. Blick was quoted in a story published Tuesday by the British Broadcasting Corporation and headlined "Global Spy Network Revealed" as confirming the existence of a coordinated spy network. The Americans and British have consistently denied that anything called Echelon exists. "As you would expect there are a large amount of radio communications floating around in the atmosphere, and agencies such as the [Defense Signals Directorate] collect those communications in the interests of their national security," Blick told the BBC. Blick said the DSD forms part of the Echelon network. Asked if information is then passed on to the United States or Britain, Blick said that "in certain circumstances" it was. Others were not so impressed with the implications of Blick's quotes. "That doesn't tell me anything I didn't know five years ago," said Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy. "What he is saying is that intelligence agencies do 'signals intelligence' -- they intercept and analyze communications and other signals. And secondly, [Blick said that] Australia cooperates with its allies in intelligence matters. "Neither of those points is either new or shocking," Aftergood said. Ditto for Electronic Frontier Foundation co-founder John Gilmore. "In this article, what's being quoted is already known -- that the Australians have a Defense Signals Directorate that listens to signals and that they might be passed onto other countries," Gilmore said. Similar reports came out of Australia a year ago that also
Re: [CTRL] Dave: The Global significance of Hemp
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Hi Moss,
Your email address looks familiar, but not your name- dunno where we may've
come into contact.
However:
I have read the document you sent in the past, and found it to be consistent
with what I know to be true, although I have NOT verified every scrap of
information. I have verified a number of items, and found no discrepancies;
persons that I have reason to trust in their honesty and breadth of
knowledge have indicated accuracy to the best of their knowledge.
It is an intricate web all intertwined with one plant with which mankind has
had a VERY long and mutually beneficial relationship.
Some deep thoughts could be mulled over regarding the juxtaposition of
consciousness alteration/exploration vs. the motive to financial profit at
any cost.
More thought could be given to the fact that the PROHIBITION of marijuana
has turned it into a very valuable crop, attractive to ruthless criminals as
well as your regular neighborhood ex-special forces Vietnam vet pot farmer
(who taught 'em that line of work?) instead of a plant that anyone
could freely and easily grow to suit his or her desire... ('course the
present form of potent marijuana has benefitted greatly from the fine
agricultural sciences and botany laboratories at Humboldt State University
in California's most famous pot farming region... funny, eh? but is it
funny ha-ha, or funny "I smell spook-stuff" ?)
This line of thinking could then be juxtaposed to the interesting fact that
COCAINE is CHEAPER than marijuana, and that coke is the pause that refreshes
the covert coffers of the C.ocaine I.mporting A.gency
PROHIBITION=Organized crime; in this case Organized Crime=covert ops of U.S.
agencies.
Prohibition=drug war=war on populace=prison/industrial complex.
War on Drug Czar=drug importer (heroin-in-bodybags) McCaffrey.
Since we seem to be living in an Alice-through-the-looking-glass world...
It is amusing to me that my own personal relationship with the cannabis
family started out in an addiction that marijuana users often contend
doesn't exist (funny though... how many of them have a hard time paying the
rent but are stoned every night ;) ... and now after years of abstinence
from mood altering substances... I am finding myself once again championing
cannabis- though in it's industrial food product forms. (with a minor in
personal freedom and a major in remodelling the financial "economy")
There is a beautiful HTML version of "The Elkhorn Manifesto" aka "Shadow of
the Swastika" at:
http://www.ka.net/randy/shadow/shadow.html
Several very basic thoughts to be considered:
How power and wealth relate to centralized control of resources.
(Hemp=decentralized; petrochemical=centralized)
How financial wealth is a power over concentration of resources.
Sugar=alcohol; petrochemical=gasoline
How to make lots of money by taxing decentralizeable alcohol
Prohibition -- make it illegal to distill your own.
Tax the hell out of the legal-licensed stills.
Form an illegal branch of government enforcement troops and FRAUDULENTLY
convince "local authorities" that their jurisdiction is pre-empted (FBI-
unchartered) (BATF questionable, possibly illegal spin-off of unchartered
IRS, though claims status of "Bureau" under US dept of Treasury).
In addition to the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, other important
legislative initiatives have been adopted in recent years. For example, the
Department of Defense Authorization Act of 1982 contained a provision,
"Military Cooperation With Civilian Law Enforcement Officials," which was
intended to codify the practices of cooperation that had developed between
military and civilian law enforcement authorities. The Act was also designed
to improve the level of cooperation by delineating precisely that assistance
which military commanders could provide and by permitting military personnel
to operate military equipment that had been lent to civilian drug
enforcement agencies.
This is interesting in that it serves many purposes at once.
(often I am quite impressed with the exquisitely interlinked plans of the
elite)
Police become militarized as population becomes marginalized.
The population becomes slowly acclimated to military law enforcement.
(jackboots marching)
Prisons become an industrial force similar in overall dollar size to the
Pentagon.
Fascist state machinery is polished and oiled.
'bout time folks wake up.
Dave Hartley, N.A.D. (not a doctor ;) (homoeopathy cranial/sacral energy
work)
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ncf
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/issues
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 3:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dave: The Global significance of Hemp
Dear Dave:
I would assume you are familiar with the attached file. I welcome your
comments and reactions.
--Cordially,
Moss David Posner, M.D. ([EMAIL
