[CTRL] Military Civilian populations used as guinea pigs

1999-12-28 Thread Dave

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As you read this document below on Military  Civilian populations used as
guinea pigs, keep in mind that military medical records for Gulf War
veterans have "gone missing" including approximately 400,000 records that
were stored along with evidence from the Fed's orgy of destruction at Waco.

England has a law that its government must investigate the death of its
citizens. They did their own investigation of three people killed at Waco.
They found our government malignant in its intent and charged the United
States with murder!
Because of the international picture (and media coverup) we don't hear what
is happening, but with the above information, consider how our government
would feel about Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark filing a claim for 84
people murdered at Waco. He would have been entitled to every piece of
information relative to Waco, all of it was stored at federal offices in
Oklahoma City!

A seismograph at Still Water (50 miles away) measured two tremors. Bomb
experts say there is no way to direct a car bomb to utterly destroy a
federal building and leave the YMCA across the street unaffected (window
washers weren't even knocked off their scaffolding).
(please read this paragraph several times if you are unaware of the fact
that the OKBOMB was NOT a "lone nut" with a truckoad of bullshit. This
"bullshit bomb" is merely the echoing laughter of the elites who planned the
bombing and the coverup. "Look what we fed the peasants thru the controlled
media..."

Retired Brigadier General Partin had much experience with explosives and
visited OKC. He found evidence of some supporting columns under the Murrah
Building were pulverized while some closer to the street (and "car bomb")
were intact. He pleaded with the senate for them to prevent the building's
demolition, with diagrams of his findings. He said it was a much bigger
operation than a car bomb.

Retired FBI veteran Ted Gunderson of Santa Monica had explosives experience.
He dismissed as a cover-up the U.S. Justice Dept. claim that a simple car
bomb could do the damage. He was quoted in The Spotlight, 5/15/95 as saying,
"A very high tech and top secret barometric bomb was the cause ... could not
have been built ... without the knowledge of research classified at the very
highest level of top secret by the U.S. government."

Ben Williams of American Christian Ministry said "No DEA people were in
their offices at the time [of the explosion]. The `Cult Awareness' people
were not in their offices at the time. A distance away, the FBI offices were
also empty." A mother who lost two boys in the day-care center asked on CNN
"why?" and was later told by phone to be quiet about it.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


   GOVERNMENT ALLEGED TO HAVE USED MILITARY AND CIVILIAN POPULATIONS AS
GUINEA PIGS

GULF WAR SYNDROME - TIP OF THE ICEBERG

If your highest ambition in life is to become a highly evolved medical
guinea pig, the U.S. Army has a slogan for you, "Be all that you can be". It
has become evident that many who join the ranks of Uncle Sam's military are
viewed by their superiors in the Pentagon as just that: experimental animals
to be used for secret inoculation and non-consensual medical research.

Dr. Larry Goss, a Lawton, Oklahoma physician who has worked in Veterans
Administration hospitals and clinics, caring for Gulf War veterans, had
little regard for the rumors surrounding the origin of the supposed Gulf War
Illness (GWI). That is, until he contracted the disease, himself, from the
veterans he was treating. When his wife and son also became sick with the
"fantasy" illness, as the government has attempted to label it, he became a
staunch believer.

His patriotic identity, Dr. Goss told The WINDS, "was the American flag and
the Constitution. I should have been born on the Fourth of July," Goss said.
"I came from a military family, I was for the military--and," Goss added,
"I'm thoroughly disgusted and disillusioned."

Evidence indicates that the government has experimented with a very large
percentage of the veterans participating not only in Operation Desert Storm,
but currently with those in Bosnia as well. The American Gulf War Veteran's
Association* (AGWVA) claims that 40% (280,000) of the veterans participating
in the Persian Gulf hostilities have contracted some form of neuromuscular
or skin disorders. Among the most prominent are:

* Guillain-Barré, syndrome (acute idiopathic polyneuritis)
* Lou Gerig's Disease (ALS - amyotrophic lateral sclerosis)
* multiple sclerosis
* Scleroderma
* lupus

The AGWVA, founded by retired U.S. Army Captain, Joyce Riley Von Kleist, RN,
was established to provide aid and an information for veterans who have
contracted GWI, also referred to as the Gulf War Syndrome (GWS). Von Kleist
claims to have substantial evidence supporting allegations that GWS comes
from the "one thing we all have in common--vaccinations." Capt.Von Kleist
engages in what seems to be 

[CTRL] John McCarthy

1999-12-28 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


FROM THE WILDERNESS is proud to present the story of U.S. Army Special
Forces Captain John McCarthy, a real American hero. While some would
challenge hero status for a man who admittedly was ordered to train
assassination teams for the CIA during the Vietnam War (none of which
carried out a mission), no one can challenge the fact that as a triple
volunteer (airborne, ranger, Special Forces), John served his country with
bravery, honor and distinction. Like so many of the young men who went to
Vietnam, he believed in his country and what he had been taught was the
rightness of its mission in the world. But this is also the story of John's
disillusionment and of his painful awakening, which came at the cost of wife
family and friends. It is a story about how he stood alone, at a crucial
moment, as his country broke its word to him and refused to capitulate as he
saw that the moral leadership of those who gave him orders was an empty
house of cards.
- Mike Ruppert, 7/14/98


AN AMERICAN P.O.W. -- IN AMERICA

By John McCarthy

This is true. It happened. And it happened in the United States of America
and in Vietnam.

Continued suppression of the following facts and circumstances provides
history with the opportunity to repeat itself. It already has once.

The United States Government claims that publication of this matter will be
inimical to the National Security of our country. A more accurate phrase
would be National Embarrassment. Stonewalling on this issue has worked for
over thirty years. Stonewalling works. It is time to take down the wall.

On January 30, 1968, a Top Secret General Court-martial concluded that
United States Army Special Forces Captain John McCarthy had murdered a
Cambodian "peasant". Although facing the death penalty, the court sentenced
McCarthy to "...be confined at hard labor for the term of your natural
life." Deliberation on sentencing took all of three minutes. Amazingly
enough, the sentence to confinement for life DID NOT include reduction in
rank, forfeiture of pay and allowances, nor dismissal from the service. This
remains a precedent in the history of Military Justice, i.e., an accusation
followed shortly by a conviction.

McCarthy was the Case Officer in Saigon, of a CIA directed covert operation
code-named PROJECT CHERRY. The operational mission of CHERRY was a
redundant, three-pronged assassination team targeted against Prince NORODOM
SIHANOUK, the head of state of Cambodia.

Although McCarthy was technically a member of the United States Military and
Special Forces, his role as Case Officer of PROJECT CHERRY necessitated an
elaborate Cover Story as a member of the Department of Defense (DOD) and was
covered by identification issued by the United States Embassy in Saigon
under an assumed name (John McAlister). This "cover" included absolute
directives not to openly associate with any members of our military forces
in Vietnam.

PROJECT CHERRY was not a Special Forces mission. This CIA activity employed
Special Forces personnel who were selected for their expertise in relevant
skills necessary for the conduct of BLACK TERROR and ASSASSINATION missions.
The Project was buried deep within a Military Intelligence unit which was
itself operating under the guise of a Civic Action Team, a common CIA cover
for covert operations world-wide. Although members of the Civic Action team
wore various military uniforms and carried on activities as though they were
legitimate military officers, some were full time CIA Agents.

The "operational" members of PROJECT CHERRY were Cambodians recruited from
the KHMER SEREI, the Government In Exile from Cambodia, violently
anti-SIHANOUK and dedicated to the overthrow of the Cambodian Government.
The KHMER SEREI was recognized by the Vietnamese Government and operated
openly in South Vietnam. PROJECT CHERRY employed twelve members of the KHMER
SEREI. Their missions included the conduct of BLACK TERROR against the
civilian population of Cambodia, while leaving evidence of their atrocities
blaming Cambodian forces for their actions. The purpose of these activities
was to create CIVIL UNREST and a rebellion against the Cambodian Regime. It
worked. Similar operations utilizing KHMER SEREI were also directed from the
United States Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand.

PROJECT CHERRY, it turns out, had been compromised by the penetration of an
individual who, while holding the rank as the First Secretary of the KHMER
SEREI, was the PRINCIPAL AGENT of PROJECT CHERRY and also an Operative Agent
of the SOVIET KGB. He was also employed by the SIHANOUK Government at the
same time. This information was provided to the United States Embassy in
Saigon in February, 1967, by the leader of the KHMER SEREI, SON NGOC THANH.
The Americans of PROJECT CHERRY were not notified of this revelation. This
triple agent’s name was INCHIN LAM. As Principal Agent, LAM coordinated the
activities of the Cambodian 

Re: [CTRL] Clinton Pushes Net Drug Rules

1999-12-28 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/27/1999 10:43:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The FDA would get new power to subpoena the records of online sites while
 investigating these operators.
  The FDA would get $10 million in the 2001 budget to hire investigators and
 upgrade computer equipment.
  It is unclear how these rules, even if approved, would affect Web sites
 operating out of other countries. 

Just what we need, the FDA with more power and a police force.  They will be
coming to your house and insisting you take the more expensive potions their
friends (the biggest pharmaceutical houses) are pushing onto the American
population (commonly considered to have all the rights of laboratory mice).
Anyone who thinks the FDA is in business to protect the consumer is pretty
naive.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Military Civilian populations used as guinea pigs

1999-12-28 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/28/1999 3:28:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As you read this document below on Military  Civilian populations used as
 guinea pigs, keep in mind that military medical records for Gulf War
 veterans have "gone missing" including approximately 400,000 records that
 were stored along with evidence from the Fed's orgy of destruction at Waco.


The military is famous for losing records it doesn't want to have anyone see.
 In at least one incident a whole storage facility burned to the ground.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Bemer, Inventer of ASCII, Has Split for the Hills...

1999-12-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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No one person 'invented' ASCII...it was developed by
committee back in the 1940s.  If this 'Bemer' was part
of that committee, he'd be at least in his 80s by now...

And BTW...a 'firewall' won't keep banks from sharing
data  ;-)


June (who's not planning on visiting any hills that weekend)

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Re: [CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-28 Thread Tenorlove

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Pennie, you didn't do the sorority thing in college, eh?

A circus is a cunning array of stunts.

Tenorlove
who hopes her kids don't read her email
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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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Re: [CTRL] [1] What a Long Strange Trip It's Been

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/27/99 1:51:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BRAVO, Kris!

Wonderful--and so far I've just skimmed it. I'll have to print this one
so I can sit on the couch and SAVOR it.

Tenorlove

 Thanks, but there were a few mistakes in that version. Sorry, But that's
what I get for posting a newly edited piece before printing and reading. I'll
clean up and post the rest soon. These postings are an expanded version of
the HT article.

Om
K

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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] [1] What A Long Strange Trip It's Been

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Yes, indeed, I had changed that once before,  There are a couple of other
things that should be fixed also. That's what I get for putting it out before
printing and reading myself.
Yes, Mullins is very interesting lots of stuff kinda thrown together. Lots of
info.

I'll clean this up and there is more.

Om
k
In a message dated 12/27/99 7:38:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Krisgood stuff. You have C. Douglas Dillon referred to as C. Dillon

Read, which you may want to change. And here is story about Douglas that
I

thought you might like, though you probably know it. It is from Eustace

Mullin's The World Order which I just finished and thought was tremendously

useful





"High level CIA policy was regularly determined at secret meetings at Pratt

House, Council on Foreign Relations HQ in NY, as revealed by Vic Marchetti,

in "Cult of Intelligence," he describes a top level meeting at Pratt House

Jan. 8, 1965 at 5pm, chaired by C. Douglas Dillon, Chairman of Dillon Read.

The main speaker was Richard Bissell, director of CIA clandestine

operations. This was the third meeting at this address. William J. Barnds

was Secretary; his father was Episcopalian Bishop of the Dallas Division.

Present were.



   Page 165, The World Order: Our Secret Rules, Eustace Mullins, 1992

Election Edition



Dillon was Secretary of the Treasury under Kennedy, including when Kennedy

was interested in moving the currency issuance back to Treasury. I always

wondered why Brady (Chairman after Dillon) and Bush were so close. It struck

me reading Mullin that Dillon and Bush families had been a primary link

between the Fed investors and the oil industry and defense contractors
in

building the consensus to kill Kennedy. I need to go back and reread Prouty

to get a better feel for how the linkages got made.
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[CTRL] Bill Z. Bubb

1999-12-28 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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"Intriguing" name to say the least

 So glad you could join us. I'm glad that He watches over me.
 Otherwise
 how would I ever face life?

 Bill Z. Bubb


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[CTRL] Fwd: Perspective

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan





One Pope? Check out http://www.cdc.net/~rcathlst/index.html for
enlightenment.

/s/ cia

"Mark A. Smith" wrote:

 ===

  Each year the staff at Beloit College in Wisconsin puts together a list
 to
  try to give the faculty a sense of the mindset of that year's incoming
  freshmen. Here is this year's list:

  The people who are starting college this fall across the nation were
 born
  in 1981.

  They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan Era and probably did
 not
  know he had ever been shot.

  They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged.

  Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.

  There has been only one Pope.

  They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not remember the
 Cold
  War.

  They have never feared a nuclear war.

  They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up.

  Their lifetime has always included AIDS.

  Bottle caps have always been screw off and plastic.

  Atari predates them, as do vinyl albums.

  The expression "you sound like a broken record" means nothing to them.

  They have never owned a record player.

  They have likely never played Pac Man and have never heard of Pong.

  They may have never heard of an 8 track.

  The Compact Disc was introduced when they were 1 year old.

  As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 32 cents.

  They have always had an answering machine.

  Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels nor have they seen
 a
  black-and-white TV.

  They have always had cable.

  There has always been VCR's, but they have no idea what BETA is.

  They cannot fathom not having a remote control.

  They were born the year that Walkmen were introduced by Sony.

  Roller-skating has always meant inline for them.

  Jay Leno has always been on the Tonight Show.

  They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.

  Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.

  They have never seen Larry Bird play.

  They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.

  The Vietnam War is as ancient history to the as WWI, WWII and the Civil
 War.

  They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.

  They can't imagine what hard contact lenses are.

  They don't know who Mork was or where he was from.

  They never heard: "Where's the beef?", "I'd walk a mile for a Camel,"
 or
  "de plane, de plane!"

  They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is.

  The Titanic was found? They thought we always knew where it was.

  Michael Jackson has always been white.

  Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places, not music
 groups.

  McDonald's never came in Styrofoam containers.

  There has always been MTV.

  They don't have a clue of how to use a typewriter.

  Do you feel old yet? Pass this on to other ancient ones...




[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Gaeton Fonzi

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "JP Viken" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike, correct--it doesn't matter who came up with this (it was Jimmy
Rothstein who deserves all the investigative credit--he has had a reputation
for getting sensitive info out of people).

This all started because I had stated to Brian Quig that in my opinion
gaeton fonzi is "dirty" and I cited the Jimmy Rothstein evidence as support
for my contention. But that is not my only evidence.  I have excellent info
from another source that  "it's all there" in the "reserved" hsca affidavits
and "reserved" hsca executive session minutes complete, full confessions
of some of the participants  actual shooters, and I have been telling
people this for years--most don't care or want to hear it.  Blakey and Fonzi
and a number of "others" associated with the hsca KNOW THE TRUTH to the Nth
degree.  Trust me on this, we need no more evidence. IT'S ALL THERE!
Blakey and Fonzi are some of the biggest liars that were ever in so called
"public service" and should be tried and executed for obstruction of
justice, misprision of felonies and TREASON!  All this b.s. about dallas
police radio dictabelt recordings, national science foundation recording
re-analysis etc. is more of the same old coverup ops.  I'm sick of all the
b.s. they keep feeding us.  I'd like to see these sobs dragged into court
under real national security prosecutions (as originally intended in the
laws) and made accountable for their treasonous actions to coverup the
premeditated RICO/GOVT murder of a US president.  About 250 others in law
enforcement and private  govt intellkigence agencies should be quickly
prosecuted in like terms right after them.
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 11:38 PM
Subject: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Gaeton Fonzi


 From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hey guys, I've known Jimmy Rothstein since 92 and he told me the story
too,
 though I didn't recall the part about Felix being on the drive to Dallas.
He
 sure was part of the Op 40 crowd, B.O.Pigs, Bush, kill all Commies crowd.
 Point is that the story is a big deal. It closes and confirms many
circles.
 Now all we have to do is keep Dan alive so he can fully unravel the
 photograph.

 Jim I recall you talking bout Felix and Sturgis but I don't recall the bit
 about Felix being on the drive. Who cares?

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: JP Viken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:13 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Gaeton Fonzi

 From: "JP Viken" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Gee, didn't I mention this first a while back?
 - Original Message -
 From: "Daniel Hopsicker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CIA" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 11:35 PM
 Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Gaeton Fonzi


  From: Daniel Hopsicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  One of the biggest puzzlements I've encountered this past
  year was the response from the so-called experts in
  the JFK assassination researcher community when I
  published a picture--the only known picture--of the
  CIA assassination squad, Operation 40, on my website,
  and then solicited their help in ID'ing the people there.
 
  The two "experts" on the exile Cuban community,
  solicited for help in making identifications of Cubans
  pictured in a Mexico City nite club with Barry Seal
  in January of 1963,Gaeton Fonzi and Gordon Winslow,
  were both curiously unhelpful, even suggesting that the
  evidence of my own eyes was in error, that
  that "white was black," in denying that Feliz Rodriguez
  is seated beside Seal.
 
  "More will be revealed" is one of the promises of life.
  And now I have my answer, depressing as it may be...
 
  In an interview with retired NYPD detective Jimmy Rothstein--
  with whom I was put in touch by CIA-Drugs Moderator Emeritus
  Mike Ruppert--I learned that Frank Sturgis, after being busted
  by Rothstein for the attempted murder of Marita Lorenz,
  made his one phone call from police lockup to...(drumroll pls.)
  Gaeton Fonzi!
 
  Not only that, but Sturgis stated that Felix Rodriguez--George Bush's
  personal wetboy--was with him in a car that drove from Miami to
  Dallas the day before the assassination.
 
  Your witness, Quig.
 
  --
  Daniel Hopsicker
  The Drug Money Times
  http://www.MadCowProd.com
  "All the news that's ripped from print!"
 
  Scandal in contemporary U.S. life is an institutionalized sociological
  phenomenon.
  It is not due primarily to psychopathological variables,  but is due to
  the institutionalization of elite wrongdoing which has occcurred since
  1963."
 
  "Many of the scandals that have occurred in the U.S. since 1963 are
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Re: [CTRL] Bug at hotmail

1999-12-28 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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I've quit using mine `cause it was getting on my nerves. ( and I have a
micron computer...)

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:27:15 PST pennie hammons
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 I have had my Hotmail account for 2 years and have never had a
 problem with
 it...Pennie


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 Hotmail has been buggy since its creation (1996?). It's notorious
 for
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 historically been about the worst, perhaps because they've been
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Re: [CTRL] Bug at hotmail

1999-12-28 Thread Tatman, Robert

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You've been lucky. I've used Hotmail, Yahoo, and Netscape WebMail, and had
problems with all three. To be fair about it, Hotmail seems to have ironed
out a lot of their problems now.

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Re: [CTRL] Bill Z. Bubb

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[CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread BARD

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991227/aponline191745_000.htm

This is what happens when the Father relinquishes his noble role to the
lusting power-hungry Mother;  dysfunctional children ripe for a brain
re-work by the socialists in the corrupt government schools.
Eve must be put back in the box from whence she came;  the female is
not equal to the male, so sayest the Bible.

God Blesses Those Who Bless You!

Bard
Title: Bauer: Gay Couples Akin to Terrorism





































































 





Bauer: Gay Couples Akin to Terrorism




By Holly Ramer



Associated Press Writer



Monday, Dec. 27, 1999; 7:17 p.m. EST



MANCHESTER, N.H.   Conservative GOP presidential hopeful Gary Bauer on Monday compared Vermont's Supreme Court decision recognizing gay couples to an act of terrorism.

"I think what the Vermont Supreme Court did last week was in some ways worse than terrorism," Bauer told reporters at his New Hampshire campaign headquarters.

Bauer praised federal authorities in Vermont for arresting a woman allegedly linked to a terrorist group, saying, "I think we all celebrate anytime terrorism is thwarted."

But the religious activist said he strongly disagreed with the Dec. 20 Vermont Supreme Court ruling that the state must grant the same protection to gay couples as it does to married couples.

Bauer called the decision another example of "a judicial decision that attacks America's deeply held values," and said he was disappointed his Republican rivals have not spoken up.

Accusing the other Republican contenders for the nomination of surrendering their party's conservative agenda, he urged Texas Gov. George W. Bush and publisher Steve Forbes "to find their voices on these issues."

Forbes, however, has spoken out.

"It was a flagrant example of judicial activism. I believe in traditional marriage. The court overstepped its bounds. This, if anything, is a matter for the people to decide, not judges," Forbes said the day of the decision.

During a campaign trip to Vermont in October, Bush said he opposed legalizing gay marriage no matter what the court ruled. "My opinion is we should not have same-gender marriage," he said. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman."

Spokesmen for Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, also said their candidates objected to the Vermont high court ruling.

A Canadian woman and a male Algerian companion were arrested Dec. 19 at a border crossing in Vermont. The woman, Lucia Garafalo, has been allegedly linked by federal authorities to what they describe as a terrorist group operating in Europe and Algeria.


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[CTRL] Bilderbergs

1999-12-28 Thread Michael Pugliese

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nettime whatcha doing,
Bilderberg?http://www.nettime.org/nettime.w3archive/199912/msg00010.html
Nettime archive: [Date Prev][Date Next] [Chronological] [Thread] [Top]


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: nettime whatcha doing, Bilderberg?
From: Pit Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:15:46 +0900


Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:07:10 +0900

Weblogs to the Bilderbergers
Grammar, Rethorics, Cybernetic Folly
or:  Did you get your PhD in conspiracy theory yet?

"You can't just materialize anywhere in the Metaverse,
like Captain Kirk beaming down from on high. This would
be confusing and irritating to the people around you.
it would break the metaphor." (Neil Stevenson, Snow Crash, pp.33-4)

Conspiracy; In common law, an agreement between two or more persons to
commit an unlawful act or to accomplish a lawful end by unlawful
means. Conspiracy is perhaps the most amorphous area in Anglo-American
criminal law. [ http://www.britannica.com - free at last. ]

For the sake of simple beginnings, the footnote where we agreed to start is
in reference to a letter: The "Prince Barnard of The Netherlands Letter",
by Marshall McLuhan, 14 May, 1969; sent to their Royal Highness, Prince
Barnard, in appreciation for McLuhan's invitation to address the Bilderberg
Conference.

How did you characterize this letter?

Well, it's the 'Ur' letter; for exposing people to thoughts of McLuhan that
are not popularized through Wired Magazine, or any other media coverage
that ever was done of McLuhan. This shows you a level of thinking that
Marshall worked from, that's just not known. So, it always initiates people
into a basic point of McLuhan; giving you a jumping off point for
understanding why he said what he said.
[ Bob Dobbs, http://anw.com/RK/natives.htm ]

This problem has been discussed elsewhere. It is also clear that elite
networks (possibly with an associative function of significance equal to,
if not greater than, many formal bodies) escape attention. The tip of the
iceberg is signalled, for example, by the Bilderberg Group, the Club of
Rome, the Club of Dakar, etc. The problem of associative networks within
and between intergovernmental bodies [that] has not received attention. To
what extent is the associative activity behind the "Inter-Agency Games"
merely of anecdotal significance, given the problems of inter-agency
coordination ? Why has the "good" associative activity received all the
attention and never been related to the "bad": trade
associations-cum-cartels, intelligence networks,
subversive-cum-revolutionary "organisations", international crime "rings"
and networks, etc ?  [ http://www.uia.org/uiadocs/assfut.htm ]

What goes on at Bilderberg? - It is important at the outset to distinguish
the active, on-going membership from the various people who are
occasionally invited to attend. Many of those invited to come along,
perhaps to report on matters pertaining to their expertise, have little
idea there is a formally constituted group at all, let alone one with its
own *grand* agenda. [* added] Hence the rather dismissive remarks by people
like sixties media guru Marshall McLuhan, who attended a Bilderberg meeting
in 1969 in Denmark, that he was 'nearly suffocated at the banality and
irrelevance,' describing them as 'uniformly nineteenth century minds
pretending to relate to the twentieth century'. Another of those who have
attended, Christopher Price, then Labour MP for Lewisham West, found it
'all very fatuous icing on the cake with nothing to do with the cake.'
(Eringer 1980, p. 26). Denis Healey, on the other hand, who was in from the
beginning and later acted as British convenor, says that 'the most valuable
[meetings] to me while I was in opposition were the Bilderberg
Conferences'. (Healey 1990, p. 195)
[ http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/bildhist.htm ]

"For 42 years," Deverell reported, "the secretive organization has devoted
itself to strengthening the Atlantic military alliance and economies. [..]
There are no massive indiscretions, but the exchanges can be quite heated."
This is a polite way of saying that members can secretly speak their minds
about whatever grandiose schemes of world conquest they envision themselves
as having the divine right to execute, without fearing that their words
will ever be heard by the public.  This tactic is very similar to the
Non-Attribution Rule used at Council on Foreign Relations meetings, which
prevents statements made by attendees from being reported in the media.
Many media CEOs, news anchors and influential members of the press fill
seats in the CFR. [Not to speak about soon to become presidents] As far as
global politics and finance go, the Bilderberg is the top of the pyramid,
the all-seeing eye gazing upon the construction of a New World Order . This
one-world system of governance, lurking in the shadows cast by flowery
language about our new "global village," will transfer nearly all economic
and political power into the hands of a small 

Re: [CTRL] Anyone know this E.O.???

1999-12-28 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

At 07:46 AM 12-28-1999 -0600, Jamie wrote:

  A friend was telling me about it and he thinks it was signed in Dec
of  one of the last couple of years.  Within the E.O. it says that our
nuclear missiles will not be on alert and we will absorb the first hit.
And supposedly putting nuclear missiles on alert is not a short
process Anyone familiar with this E.O.?  Just curious.


 From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999
 Subject:  [CTRL] A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart


 A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart
 Joel M. Skousen
 March 25, 1999

 In November 1997, President Clinton signed a top-secret
 Presidential Decision Directive (PDD-60) directing U.S. military
 commanders to abandon the time-honored nuclear deterrence of
 "launch on warning."

 Ironically, this was done in the name of "increased deterrence."
 Every sensible American needs to understand why this reasoning is
 fraudulent at best and deadly at worst.  First, some background.

 The impetus to change U.S. strategic nuclear doctrine came on the
 heels of Clinton's demand to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in early
 1997 that they prepare to unilaterally reduce America's nuclear
 warhead deployment to 2,500 in eager anticipation of the
 ratification of the START II disarmament treaty.  This pact
 has yet to be ratified by the Russian Duma.

 Gen. John Shalikashvili, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, responded
 that he couldn't comply, since the U.S. military was still
 operating on a former Presidential Decision Directive of 1981 to
 prepare to "win a protracted nuclear war."  A winning strategy
 couldn't be implemented without the full contingent of current
 nuclear strategic warheads.

 According to Craig Cerniello of Arms Control Today
 (November/December 1997 issue), "the administration viewed the
 1981 guidelines as an anachronism of the Cold War.  The notion
 that the United States still had to be prepared to fight and win
 a protracted nuclear war today seemed out of touch with reality,
 given the fact that it has been six years since the collapse of
 the Soviet Union."

 Certainly, the apparent collapse of the Soviet Union is the
 linchpin in every argument pointing toward the relaxation of
 Western vigilance and accelerated disarmament.  Indeed, it is
 the driving argument that is trumpeted constantly before Congress,
 U.S. military leaders, and the American people.

 Almost everyone is buying it -- even most conservatives who should
 know better.  However, the most savvy Soviet-watchers can point to
 a host of evidence indicating that the so-called "collapse" was
 engineered to disarm the West and garner billions in direct aid to
 assist Russia while inducing the West to take over the economic
 burden of the former satellite states.

 But the most ominous evidence is found in defectors from Russia
 who tell the same story:  Russia is cheating on all aspects of
 disarmament, and is siphoning off billions in Western aid money to
 modernize and deploy top-of-the-line new weapons systems aimed at
 taking down the U.S. military in one huge, decapitating nuclear
 strike.

 Contrast this with the Clinton administration's response.
 Incredibly, while still paying lip service to nuclear deterrence,
 Assistant Secretary of Defense Edward L. Warner III went before
 the Congress on March 31, 1998, and bragged about the litany of
 unilateral disarmament this administration has forced upon the
 U.S. military:

 Warner noted the "success" the Clinton administration has had in
 recent years, which has:

 Eliminated our entire inventory of ground-launched
 non-strategic nuclear weapons (nuclear artillery and Lance
 surface-to-surface missiles).

 Removed all nonstrategic nuclear weapons on a day-to-day basis
 from surface ships, attack submarines, and land-based naval
 aircraft bases.

 Removed our strategic bombers from alert.

 Stood down the Minuteman II ICBMs scheduled for deactivation
 under Start I.

 Terminated the mobile Peacekeeper and mobile small ICBM
 programs.

 Terminated the SCRAM-II nuclear short-range attack missile.

 In January 1992, the second Presidential Nuclear Initiative took
 further steps which included:

 Limiting B-2 production to 20 bombers.

 Canceling the entire small ICBM program.

 Ceasing production of W-88 Trident SLBM (submarine-launched
 missile) warheads.

 Halting purchases of advanced cruise missiles.

 Stopping new production of Peacekeeper missiles (our biggest
 MIRV-warhead ICBM).

 "As a result of these significant changes, the U.S. nuclear
 stockpile has decreased by more than 50 percent," Warner enthused.

 All of this has been done without any meaningful disarmament by
 the Russians.

 The Clinton administration would counter this charge by citing the
 "successful" dismantling of 3,300 strategic nuclear warheads by
 Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus, and the 

Re: [CTRL] Anyone know this E.O.???

1999-12-28 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

 -Caveat Lector-

Thank You!

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kingsbury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 10:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anyone know this E.O.???


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At 07:46 AM 12-28-1999 -0600, Jamie wrote:

  A friend was telling me about it and he thinks it was signed in Dec
of  one of the last couple of years.  Within the E.O. it says that our
nuclear missiles will not be on alert and we will absorb the first hit.
And supposedly putting nuclear missiles on alert is not a short
process Anyone familiar with this E.O.?  Just curious.


 From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999
 Subject:  [CTRL] A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart


 A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart
 Joel M. Skousen
 March 25, 1999

 In November 1997, President Clinton signed a top-secret
 Presidential Decision Directive (PDD-60) directing U.S. military
 commanders to abandon the time-honored nuclear deterrence of
 "launch on warning."

 Ironically, this was done in the name of "increased deterrence."
 Every sensible American needs to understand why this reasoning is
 fraudulent at best and deadly at worst.  First, some background.

 The impetus to change U.S. strategic nuclear doctrine came on the
 heels of Clinton's demand to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in early
 1997 that they prepare to unilaterally reduce America's nuclear
 warhead deployment to 2,500 in eager anticipation of the
 ratification of the START II disarmament treaty.  This pact
 has yet to be ratified by the Russian Duma.

 Gen. John Shalikashvili, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, responded
 that he couldn't comply, since the U.S. military was still
 operating on a former Presidential Decision Directive of 1981 to
 prepare to "win a protracted nuclear war."  A winning strategy
 couldn't be implemented without the full contingent of current
 nuclear strategic warheads.

 According to Craig Cerniello of Arms Control Today
 (November/December 1997 issue), "the administration viewed the
 1981 guidelines as an anachronism of the Cold War.  The notion
 that the United States still had to be prepared to fight and win
 a protracted nuclear war today seemed out of touch with reality,
 given the fact that it has been six years since the collapse of
 the Soviet Union."

 Certainly, the apparent collapse of the Soviet Union is the
 linchpin in every argument pointing toward the relaxation of
 Western vigilance and accelerated disarmament.  Indeed, it is
 the driving argument that is trumpeted constantly before Congress,
 U.S. military leaders, and the American people.

 Almost everyone is buying it -- even most conservatives who should
 know better.  However, the most savvy Soviet-watchers can point to
 a host of evidence indicating that the so-called "collapse" was
 engineered to disarm the West and garner billions in direct aid to
 assist Russia while inducing the West to take over the economic
 burden of the former satellite states.

 But the most ominous evidence is found in defectors from Russia
 who tell the same story:  Russia is cheating on all aspects of
 disarmament, and is siphoning off billions in Western aid money to
 modernize and deploy top-of-the-line new weapons systems aimed at
 taking down the U.S. military in one huge, decapitating nuclear
 strike.

 Contrast this with the Clinton administration's response.
 Incredibly, while still paying lip service to nuclear deterrence,
 Assistant Secretary of Defense Edward L. Warner III went before
 the Congress on March 31, 1998, and bragged about the litany of
 unilateral disarmament this administration has forced upon the
 U.S. military:

 Warner noted the "success" the Clinton administration has had in
 recent years, which has:

 Eliminated our entire inventory of ground-launched
 non-strategic nuclear weapons (nuclear artillery and Lance
 surface-to-surface missiles).

 Removed all nonstrategic nuclear weapons on a day-to-day basis
 from surface ships, attack submarines, and land-based naval
 aircraft bases.

 Removed our strategic bombers from alert.

 Stood down the Minuteman II ICBMs scheduled for deactivation
 under Start I.

 Terminated the mobile Peacekeeper and mobile small ICBM
 programs.

 Terminated the SCRAM-II nuclear short-range attack missile.

 In January 1992, the second Presidential Nuclear Initiative took
 further steps which included:

 Limiting B-2 production to 20 bombers.

 Canceling the entire small ICBM program.

 Ceasing production of W-88 Trident SLBM (submarine-launched
 missile) warheads.

 Halting purchases of advanced cruise missiles.

 Stopping new production of Peacekeeper missiles (our biggest
 MIRV-warhead ICBM).

 "As a result of these significant changes, the U.S. nuclear
 stockpile has decreased by more than 50 percent," Warner enthused.

 All of this has been done without any 

Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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hi,

I'm not gay or any variant - but this rabid censure of human variation has
got to go away and hide itself in shame.
I know that right now - homosexual values are on the NWO agenda -
and that the nuclear family is being deliberately destroyed to take the
power of creation of children away from individuals to give it to the
totalitarian state,
and that the more that the polarity of the sexes can be thwarted the more
control the state has over the need to reproduce  yes I know all that ...

but leave these people alone with your mindless hatred ... and turn your
rabid masculinity on the institutions that have programmed YOU.

Andrew Hennessey

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[CTRL] Smoking Marijuana Increases Head and Throat Cancer Risk

1999-12-28 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Smoking is smoking is smoking... Because of the unregulated nature of
marijuana production and sale, marijuana growers have no incentive to
control the amount of tar in their product. In addition, most marijuana
smokers hold the smoke in the respiratory tract far longer than is normal
with tobacco smoke. Verb. sap.

http://www.medscape.com/reuters/eline/tue/t1227-3f.html

Smoking Marijuana Increases Head And Neck Cancer Risk

NEW YORK, Dec 27 (Reuters Health) -- People who smoke marijuana may be more
likely than those who do not smoke to develop cancer of the head and neck,
according to a report in the December 17th issue of Cancer Epidemiology
Biomarker and Prevention.

"Many people may think marijuana is harmless, but it's not," said study
author Dr. Zuo-Feng Zhang, in a statement issued by the University of
California, Los Angeles.

The more often each day a person smokes marijuana, and the longer they
continue to smoke it, the greater their chance of developing cancer in
places such as the mouth, tongue, larynx or pharynx, according to the study
by Zhang, of UCLA's Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center, and colleagues.

The researchers compared marijuana, alcohol and tobacco use in 173 patients
who had cancer of the head and neck with that of 176 blood donors who did
not have cancer.

When they eliminated other factors that contribute to cancer, including
smoking and alcohol intake, they found that people who smoked marijuana at
any point during their lifetime were 2.6 times more likely to develop head
and neck cancer compared with people who had never smoked marijuana.

The risk increased in relation to the amount of the drug used and the number
of years a person smoked marijuana.

"If you smoke a little, your risk increases a little," Zhang said. "If you
smoke a lot, your risk increases a lot."

Marijuana may interact with a genetic susceptibility to such cancers, with
cigarette smoking, and, to a lesser extent, with alcohol consumption to
increase a person's chances of developing head and neck cancer, according to
the report.

Back in the 1960s, many people in their twenties smoked marijuana, Zhang
points out. Because cancers of the head and neck take 20 to 30 years to
develop, individuals who smoked large amounts of marijuana 20 to 30 years
ago may just now be developing head and neck cancer.

The researchers note that the blood donors, the comparison group in the
study, may have been less likely than the cancer patients to have used
marijuana.

Or it is possible that the cancer patients were more likely than the blood
donors to remember and report marijuana use.

Either factor could bias the study, which should be confirmed with more
research, the research team says.

Although it's known that the cancer-causing properties of marijuana smoke
are similar to those of cigarette smoke, this is the first study in which
investigators have looked at the relationship between smoking marijuana and
head and neck cancer, Zhang said.

It is estimated that approximately 31% of adults in the United States use
marijuana.

Cancer Epidemiology Biomarker and Prevention 1999;1071-1078.

Copyright © 1999 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Republication or
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written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or
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1999-12-28 Thread Sanders

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Thank you, Andrew!

It really pisses me off to read the crap Bard sometimes writes, but I know
that questioning him on his views doesn't work because he NEVER replies to
anything that doesn't agree with him already. Also, since I am one of those
humans who need "to go back in the box" I know he doesn't give a shit about
what I think. Just another Eve...

What I'm thanking you for is replying to him in such a way that I look at
what you say and feel good again!

Maggie

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[CTRL] Government to Review Y2K-Fix Patent

1999-12-28 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Government to Review Y2K-Fix Patent

December 28, 1999
Web posted at: 11:21 a.m. EST (1621 GMT)
by Linda Rosencrance

(IDG) -- In a rare move, the U.S. Patent Office has decided to re-examine
the year 2000 date-correction patent for windowing that it issued to
software developer Bruce Dickens on Sept. 8, 1998.

But Dickens' attorney, Bill Cray of the Laguna Beach, Calif., law office of
Levin  Hawes, said, "Bruce welcomes the opportunity to have the patent
reviewed and anticipates that it will strengthen his patent when it gets
through the re-examination process."

The agency's decision comes after the inventor sent bills to Fortune 1,000
companies and software manufacturers asking each of them to pay him up to
$50,000 in licensing fees, as well as an additional $1,000-$2,000 per month,
according to the Arlington, Va.-based Information Technology Association of
America (ITAA). In addition, ITAA said Dickens was planning to increase the
fees substantially for companies which didn't pay him before the first of
the year.

While not taking a position on the patent office's decision, Marc Pearl,
ITAA's legal counsel, said the move will help companies stay focused on
fixing and testing systems in the final run up to the year 2000 date
rollover.

"We had never taken a position on this. And we had never told companies not
to pay the fees. What we did tell them was to check with legal counsel,"
Pearl said. "But we were concerned that [even though this was] something as
obvious as windowing, an individual had found a patent officer who said this
was 'non-obvious,' " Pearl said. "A number of IT companies were concerned
because they had been doing things like this before, even though not
directly related to the Y2K date change."

Pearl said he hoped the publicity surrounding the patent office's decision
would discourage companies from writing checks until they consulted an
attorney.

Dickens worked for McDonnell Douglas, which is now part of The Boeing Co.,
in Long Beach, Calif., when the firm applied for a windowing patent. When
the patent office granted the patent, the company assigned it to him.

Since that time Dickens started a company called Dickens2000 to solicit
licensees for the windowing technique, which he calls Dickens Y2K Solution.
Windowing is the technique used for accurately interpreting data entered in
the double-digit year fields. Rather than having to rewrite a program to
represent all dates with four digits -- 99 would be replaced by 1999 --
windowing allows a programmer to enable software to understand whether the
last two digits of a date should be preceded by a "19" or a "20."

This technique creates a "window" that would allow a computer to recognize,
for example, that years entered as 00-29 would represent 2000-2029 and years
entered as 30-99 would represent 1930-1999.

In a press release Q. Todd Dickinson, the commissioner of patents and
trademarks, said he decided to review the patent after the agency discovered
information that wasn't considered when the patent was originally examined
and granted.

In this case numerous companies contacted the patent office complaining --
as well as providing documentation -- that the method was already being used
by programmers before Dickens claimed he developed it, Pearl said.

In the release Dickinson noted that "commissioner-ordered re-examinations
were discretionary and rare." Patent office spokeswoman Ruth Nyblod said the
agency couldn't comment further on the matter because of legal issues.

Kazim Isfahani, an analyst at Giga Information Group Inc. in Cambridge,
Mass., said the patent commissioner's decision to re-examine the patent was
a "positive action."

"There has been an overwhelming amount of evidence that there was "prior
art" [evidence that the technique had been in use] before Dickens applied
for his patent," Isfahani said.

"The patent office never puts out a press release announcing that they are
going to re-examine a patent," Isfahani said. "But the patent office has
come under a lot of scrutiny recently for not being up on the times
technologically-speaking. This is a way to [refute that]."



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The New  Improved (?) Al Gore

“Al Gore, who used to resemble a wax dummy, but without the sense of humor,
has been working hard to remake his image, and he’s succeeded.  He now comes
across as an overbearing jerk.  Behold the alpha male!”

- Columnist Steve Chapman, Creators Syndicate

*
“Spam” Nothing But Free Speech Junk Mail

"This is simply the online equivalent of something that's already being done
through direct mail. If this is an invasion of privacy, I guess direct mail
is, too. I guess the real question is not a legal one, but really how
effective this is going to be."

- Terry Francke, president of the California First Amendment Coalition,
commenting on George W. Bush's ads that target voters through the Internet,
Salon, 12/22/99

**
Johnny One-Note

“To ask about Senator McCain’s policy positions other than his commitment to
passing (campaign finance reform) is to be reminded on the one-line joke,
‘Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?’”

- Columnist Grover Norquist, American Spectator, December 1999/January 2000

**
Avoiding Public Schools Like the Plague

In a front-page story last week, the Wall Street Journal revealed how,
despite wide and diverse socio-economic backgrounds, children attending
Pentagon-run schools for military personnel are performing well above their
peers stuck in the public school system.  The difference is so stark, that
parents of students in the Pentagon-run schools will do almost anything to
keep their kids out of the public school system.  Bernard Samuel, an army
sergeant stationed at Louisville, Kentucky, is contemplating retirement next
March.  If he does, his family would have to leave the base and pull his kids
out of the Fort Knox-run school system.  “The prospect so distresses Ms.
Samuel that she is thinking of joining the Army herself rather than sending
her children to local public schools,” reports the WSJ.  “They care about
learning here,” Ms. Samuel was quoted as saying.

So horrified are some parents at the prospect of sending their kids to local
public schools once they retire, or their eligibility runs out, that they
actually “go to court to have friends or former neighbors on base appointed
as guardians” so their kids can continue their Pentagon-run school education.
 How bad are the local public schools when mothers feel they have to join the
Army, or parents feel they have to give up legal guardianship, just so their
children can get a quality education?  The time to put an end to the public
school monopoly has long-since arrived!


Coming Out of the Closet in Hollywood

“The self-assured young professional is ready to come out of the closet.
Only five years into her career, she knows the risks, but she’s willing to go
public, she says, to bring the issue into the open.  Ellen Treanor is a
Republican.  And an actor.  In famously liberal Hollywood, that combination
is usually an oxymoron. ... Treanor and other Republican actors tell tales of
being ostracized by casting directors who prefer to surround themselves with
like-minded people.  While a 1950s-style blacklist is probably more the stuff
of paranoia, they still say they fear being cut out of the business for
politics rather than lack of talent. ... Prominent actors, like Tom Selleck,
Arnold Schwarzenegger and (Charlton) Heston, have succeeded regardless of
their politics, but in the eyes of lesser-known actors, such outspokenness is
not an option.”

- Associated Press, Las Vegas Review Journal, 12/26/99


Let the Negative Campaigning Begin

“Former Rep. John Ensign, R-Nev., who has been running (for the U.S. Senate)
since March, has picked up $1.9 million for his campaign war chest.  Ensign
is receiving campaign support along the Las Vegas Strip, where his father,
Mandalay Resort Group Chairman Mike Ensign, is a major player.  In his latest
fundraising letter, Ensign, a veterinarian, takes a shot at (Democrat
opponent Edward M.) Bernstein’s profession.  He writes:  ‘Two thousand miles
away last year, a very wealthy personal injury lawyer used his personal
fortune to buy a seat in the U.S. Senate.  The national Democrats are trying
to repeat the pattern by recruiting a personal injury lawyer who will draw
upon his personal wealth to try and buy Nevada’s seat in the Senate.’ ...(A)
Bernstein campaign aide says the letter is a sign that Ensign is worried
about his Democratic opponent.  ‘For them to being going negative this early
and attacking his profession shows those concerns,’ the aide says.”

- Columnist Jeff 

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992301.  Cohen talks terrorism, quality of life, total force

by Linda D. Kozaryn
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Military and civilian security officials at home and
overseas are on guard against the threat of Y2K terrorism.

All U.S. military facilities in the United States and overseas are "watching
very closely," Defense Secretary William S. Cohen said during a recent trip
to Italy and the Balkans.  "Everyone is fully apprised of the nature of the
threat."

All bases are taking extra precautions over the next few weeks as the new
millennium begins, Cohen said.  Defense officials are keeping base
commanders fully advised so they can get out the word if there should be any
specific threats to that facility or to the families who live there, he
said.

"We try to see if there are any specific identifiable threats and where they
may be," Cohen said.  Referring to a global warning recently issued by the
State Department to Americans living abroad, Cohen said that there have been
no specific threats aimed at Americans in specific overseas areas.

There are some groups, however, such as Osama Bin Laden's organization that
aim "to find weaknesses," Cohen said.  Security officials are determined to
prevent any defense breaches by staying alert and aware of the heightened
threat, he said.

"The more prepared you are, the less likely groups will be to try to
penetrate that," he said.  "If the guard is down, then they certainly will
take advantage of it."  Cohen called on everyone in the military community
to be alert and take precautions.

Y2K terrorism was one of a several issues the secretary talked about during
a late-December visit to Italy's Aviano Air Base and the USS Bataan in
Naples.  He also visited Task Force Eagle in Tuzla, Bosnia, Task Force
Falcon at Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo, and Camp Able Sentry in the Former
Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

The main reason for the holiday trip was to express the nation's
appreciation to the military.  A USO show with sports celebrities, singers,
comedians and six Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders accompanied the secretary to
entertain the forward-deployed troops.

As Cohen looked out at about 1,000 soldiers assembled in Bosnia's Eagle
Sports Complex, he noted that there is no other military in the world where
there is such diversity.  "From many, we have one," he told the fatigue-clad
men and women with M-16s slung over their shoulders.  "You are the force."

Along with paying tribute to the troops for their dedication and service,
Cohen pledged to follow the recent pay raise with better health care and
housing.

Cohen's talks with troops and reporters also highlighted DOD's quality of
life initiatives.  At each stop, he pledged to improve military health care
and housing.  "Those are the two principal quality of life issues that I
will be directing myself and my staff toward during the coming year," the
secretary said.

"We are going to try to devote as much attention as we can to making TRICARE
work," he said.  The goal is to correct deficiencies in the system that lead
to long lines, delayed appointments and other complaints service and family
members have raised.

On housing, Cohen said an important initiative will be included in the
budget and that it will be announced in a few weeks.  "Stay tuned," he said.
"We are going to focus on getting adequate housing for folks."

The secretary also told the active duty and Reserve component troops that
DOD's total force concept is a success.  "In recent years," he said, "there
was some question about whether or not the Guard and Reserve could be fully
integrated into the total Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines.  That has taken
place today."

National Guard and other Reserve component members are playing an equal role
and bearing a full share of the responsibility in Bosnia, Kosovo, Southwest
Asia and other missions, Cohen said.  Their success, he noted, influenced
his recent decision not to cut 25,000 from the Guard and Reserve forces.

"I came to the judgment that if we are going to continue to carry out our
current missions, we can't afford to go down any further this time," he
said.

The secretary responded to questions on efforts to close more bases.
Congress has turned down DOD's requests for two more rounds of closures.

"We are carrying too much infrastructure," Cohen said.  "Congress is
spending billions in tax dollars each year on facilities that are no longer
necessary for the mission.

"That is a waste of tax dollars that can be better spent for pay, retirement
benefits, housing, health care and procurement," he said.  "Congress has to
decide to either cut the overhead or increase the budget," Cohen added.

"Hopefully, in the coming years, my successors will be more successful than
I have been in getting additional base closures."


992302.  Officials clarify CEFIP intent

by Staff Sgt. Cynthia 

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1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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What A Long Strange Trip It's Been
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" . . . these same secret societies are behind it all," my father said. Now,
Dad had never spoken much about his work.

You see, my Daddy was a — spy.

He entered into the "intel" world in the late thirties, later, he was OSS and
G-2. During the early fifties he was the CIA's Branch Chief, Head of East
Asia Intelligence Analyst Office. I spoke Dutch and Malay before English,
whilst my family accompanied my "businessman" father to Indonesia in the
early 1950s. That my father had worked for the government was no secret, but
it just wasn't everyday conversation.

So one day, when my dad sat me down, I had very little to relate to when he
very soberly and in rapid succession told me, "the Vietnam War is about
drugs" and "these secret societies are behind it."

He then really laid one on me.

"Communism is all a sham, these same secret societies are behind it all."

"Hunh???"

I really couldn't relate. The only "secret society" I knew of was the Mafia
and my teachers had been stuffing me under desks because the "commies" were
going to bomb us. And since it was the sixties—and I was a teenager with my
hair growing longer—I just tossed it off as my dad's way of having an
anti-drug chat and went on with life.

Many years later I finally had some understanding of what my dad was talking
about and—boy—do I wish I had asked some questions.

Like, was he was talking about The Order of Skull and Bones?


* * *


Skull and Bones, the pirates flag, a poison warning—an icon of death—an
interesting symbol for what some say is merely a Yale 'frat' club. Just some
college kids and their bizarre hazing humor—having fun.

For almost 170 years that grimacing visage and code of  "strict secrecy" has
fostered many questions.

What is Skull and Bones?

The Order of Skull and Bones is the oldest of several senior secret societies
that are unique to Yale University. The "Order" was founded in 1832 by
William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft. Many historians claim the group
appeared as a direct result of the de-secretizing of America's oldest
Greek-letter college secret society, Phi Beta Kappa.

Phi Beta Kappa had been "founded with impressive ritual and high solemnity"
on Thursday, Dec 5, 1776, at William and Mary College, in Williamsburg,
Virginia. A few years later in April of 1780, at Goshen, Connecticut, four
students were "initiated into Phi Beta Kappa." Later on November 13, the
official foundation meeting was held at Yale.  "Three weeks and a day later"
the chapter at William and Mary came to "an end" due to the threat of a
British invasion during the War of Independence. Thus making the group at
Yale the oldest existent chapter.

 New England was going through a transformation from the strict puritanical
Calvinist outlooks toward a more secular, scientific worldview. The
revolutionary fervor and factionalization of the War of Independence had been
sandwiched between a series of religious revivals that swept through the
countryside like wildfires. During the first years of our Republic there was
a big Illuminati conspiracy scare and a generation later an anti-Masonic
hysteria that developed into a political force. The first national party
convention—by any party, in the US—was held by the Anti-Mason party, in 1832.

Many people, including, John Quincy Adams, who was elected to Congress on an
Anti-Mason/Whig ticket, were publicly campaigning against the secrecy of Phi
Beta Kappa.

Phi Beta Kappa dropped its secret society aspect in 1832 and became an "open
honorary organization," and  "[in] protest, apparently, William H. Russell,
valedictorian of 1833, got Alphonso Taft and thirteen other members of '33 to
form what is now perhaps the most famous secret society in the United States."

From the very beginning Skull and Bones encountered resentment from fellow
students. The faculty sent warning letters to the parents of early initiates.
Even amid this controversy the chapter persisted and flourished, and by 1884
two other senior secret societies at Yale had been formed: Scroll and Key,
and Wolf's Head. Also, Phi Beta Kappa had been revived after disappearing in
1871.

One old Yale tradition is "that 'Bones’ is a branch of a university corps of
Germany, in which country, General Russell spent some time before
graduation."  During an infamous break-in by the "Order of File and Claw", on
September 29, 1876 into the "Tomb"—the windowless "Bones"-owned and -built
meeting house—the walls were seen to be "adorned with pictures of the
founders of Bones at Yale, and of the members of the society in Germany, when
the Chapter was established here in 1832."

In the cellar, the "File and Claw" raiders found a small room, with an
"always-burning lamp" and "a dilapidated human skull." Upstairs three rooms
were found, a lodge room with its walls covered in black velvet, a table with
skull and crossbones, and the "sanctum sanctorum," 

[CTRL] SOLDIERS FOR THE TRUTH December 24, 1999

1999-12-28 Thread Bill Richer

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SOLDIERS FOR THE TRUTH

December 24, 1999

COMBAT REPORT

What better way to end the year than with a true story which demonstrates
the dedication and courage of the women who care for the injured.

A Nurse's Story

Theresa Morel Hudler as told to Roberta S. Rogers

Suddenly, in my head it is 1968 and I am back in Vietnam.

A monsoon rain has just ended this late-January morning when the UH-1
"Huey" helicopter settles into the mud by the 12th evacuation hospital at
Cu
Chi ("KooChee"). The chopper is a "slick," a troop carrier, not the medevac
chopper we are used to. It is full of wounded men who a few minutes before
were in battle. Their comrades have hastily loaded and flown them to us.

Nurses, aides, medics run under the rush of blades to lift the wounded
through the open sides of the helicopter. Triage is begun. There is the
sickly smell of blood and mud, the shouts of medics, the moan of a man in
pain, the down-winding whine of the chopper's engine.

I have just finished my 12-hour shift and should head for the
"hooch"--the nurses' barracks-- but as nurse in charge, I know I cannot
leave
my staff at a moment like this.

"Lt. Morel, come here, please! Tell us what to do with this one!"   I
slop through the mud to where a nurse is standing beside a low stretcher.

I crouch down beside the soldier and observe a massive head wound. This
man will die if we cannot get him to a field hospital up north where they
are
better equipped to deal with head injuries. I motion to have an IV started
and move my mouth down near the soldier's ear.

"Don't worry, sweetheart; we'll get you out of here. We'll get you
someplace safe. Just hang on."

 Glancing up through the noise and confusion toward the slowly rotating
helicopter blades,  I see crew members heading back to the "slick."

"Wait!" I yell. "Wait! We have to take this man on! We have to take him
up north!"

 I scramble to my feet and run toward the chopper, gesticulating
wildly.
The pilot glances at his crew; flying wounded is not their usual duty.
After
a pause, he looks back at me and nods.

Hands lift the litter and slide it in, lodging it against a projecting
bulkhead near the rear. It takes up all but a few inches of the width of
the
chopper's floor.  Two door gunners, their heads bulky in huge protective
helmets, climb onto narrow benches behind the litter, facing outward,
sliding
in behind mounted M-60 machine guns.

It is not common for nurses to fly evacuation runs, and I have never
been
in a helicopter before, but there is no one else free to go. I scramble up
onto the metal floor behind the pilot and co-pilot's seats. Someone has
tossed me a flak jacket and a standard "steel-pot" helmet. I see the
gunners
and pilots hooking their helmet headsets into plugs in the roof: The crew
will now be able to communicate with each other. I have no headset, no ear
protectors. My helmet flops back and forth on my small head as I struggle
to
snap the drab flak jacket over my green fatigues and then reach up to check
the patient's IV, attached to a hook overhead.

The co-pilot shouts that voice communication will soon be impossible.
He
tells me to bang on his seat if I need something once we are airborne. He
will swing his boom mike out then so I can shout into it. Now the chopper
engine begins to whine.

I am sitting with my back to the pilots' seats. The metal floor beneath
me vibrates. The doors are open; it is as if the chopper has no sides, but
nothing holds me in.  Sweat trickles down my face and under my uniform
where
the flak jacket covers it. I am watching my patient closely as the engine
winds up to full pitch. We lift up just above the trees,  the nose drops a
bit, and we move forward. We are flying.

The throbbing of the engine and rotors through the metal roof and the
rush of wind past the open doors are deafening. The roar increases as we
begin to move a hundred miles an hour  up and just over jungle trees, down
low over rice patties and fields.

Suddenly the pilots behind me are shouting something about enemy troops
below. Simultaneously the gunners open up with their machine guns. The
chopper begins to fly evasive maneuvers--banking steeply first to one side
and then the other, still following the nape of the earth. The noise
increases; the sounds do not blend; the noise is multidimensional, each
sound
adding to another.

Through the vibrations and throaty pounding of the guns and the whine
of
the engine, despite the rush of a 100-mile-an-hour wind, I force myself to
concentrate on my patient. I turn my thoughts inward to escape facing the
incredible place I find myself. Hours earlier, I had begun my shift with my
daily visit to the chapel area for a quick prayer for safety for myself, my
staff and anyone who would be with us that day.

Now I am praying again, crying silently 

[CTRL] In your name. With your money. -- J2

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   from: Consortium News http://www.consortiumnews.com/122299a.html

   Inside U.S. Counterinsurgency:
A Soldier Speaks


   Editor's Note: Stan Goff served in the U.S. military for two
   decades, much of the time with Special Forces training Third
   World armies. His first-person account of these
   counterinsurgency projects comes as policy makers in
   Washington press for major increases in military aid to
   Colombia’s government in its war with leftist guerrillas.

   By Stan Goff

   Tolemaida is hot. The whole Sumapaz River Valley
   is hotter than hell.

   Steep, semi-arid, plenty of thorns and mosquitoes, it's the
   perfect place for the Lancero School, where the Colombian
   military runs its toughest course of training and assessment.

   About 70 miles south of Bogota, Tolemaida is also home of
   Colombian Special Forces, kind of like the Fort Bragg of
   Colombia.

   I'd been married for the second time for only 10 days on Oct.
   22, 1992, when 7th Special Forces sent me there.

   Bill Clinton was campaigning for the presidency against
   George Bush, and I remember the Delta guys who were
   billeted alongside us shrieking and carrying on when the
   election results came through. "That faggot lovin' draft
   dodger! Shit!"

   Delta was there training a select group of Colombian soldiers
   for "close-quarter battle," which means fighting inside
   buildings during hostage situations and the like. We were
   training two battalions of Colombian Special Forces in night
   helicopter operations and counterinsurgency tactics.

   Of course, we were there helping the Colombian army to
   defend democracy against leftist guerrillas who were the foes
   of democracy. It mattered not that only a tiny fraction of the
   population had the means to recruit and promote candidates
   or that terror stalked the population.

   I'm not being cynical. I'm just awake now. It took a couple of
   decades.

   Growing up, I lived in a neighborhood where everyone
   worked in the same plant, McDonnell-Douglas, where F-4
   Phantoms were built to provide close air support for the
   troops in Vietnam.

   My dad and mom both riveted, working on the center
   fuselage assembly. I just understood that it was my duty to
   fight the godless collectivist menace of communism.

   So, I joined the Army seven months after I squeaked through
   high school. In 1970, I volunteered for the airborne infantry
   and for Vietnam.

   In the years that followed, I found out that I didn't know
   communism from cobblestones. All I saw in Vietnam was a
   race war being conducted by an invading army, and very
   poor people were taking the brunt of it.

   I left the Army after my first hitch, but poverty coaxed me
   back in in 1977. Soon, I had stepped onto the slippery slope
   of a military career. But I didn't like garrison soldiering and I
   did like to travel.

   So, it was inevitable that I ended up in Special Operations,
   first with the Rangers, later with Special Forces.

   In 1980, I went to Panama. The fences there separated us
   from the “Zonies” -- the slum dwellers who lived in the Canal
   Zone. After that, I went to El Salvador, Guatemala and a host
   of other dirt-poor countries.

   Over and over, the fact that we as a nation seemed to take
   sides with the rich against the poor started to penetrate --
   first my preconceptions, then my rationalizations, and finally,
   my consciousness.

   Now I am the Viet Cong.

   1983:
   The former Special Forces guy posing as a political officer
   didn't even try to hide his real job at the U.S. Embassy in
   Guatemala.

   "You with the political section?" I asked. I knew what he did. I
   was trying to be discreet.

   "I'm a fuckin' CIA agent," he responded.

   The CIA man had adopted me out of friendship for a mutual
   acquaintance, one of my work associates with whom he had
   served in Vietnam. The CIA man told me where to get the
   best steak, the best ceviche, the best music, the best
   martinis. He liked martinis.

   We stopped off one afternoon at the El Jaguar Bar in the
   lobby of the El Camino Hotel, a mile up Avenida de la
   Reforma from the U.S. Embassy. He drank eight martinis in
   the first hour.

   The CIA man began spontaneously relating how he had
   participated in the execution of a successful ambush "up
   north," two weeks earlier.

   "North" was in the Indian areas: Quiche and Peten, where
   government troops were waging a scorched-earth campaign
   against Mayans considered sympathetic to leftist guerrillas.

   He was 

[CTRL] [1a] The Cyclopædia of Fraternities

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Cyclopædia of Fraternities
Albert C. Stevens
©1907 E. B Treat, Inc.
444 pps -- 2nd Edition – Out-of-print
--[1a]--
THE
CYCLOPAEDIA OF FRATERNITIES

A COMPILATION OF

EXISTING AUTHENTIC INFORMATION AND THE RESULTS OF
ORIGINAL INVESTIGATION AS TO THE ORIGIN, DERIVA-
TION, FOUNDERS, DEVELOPMENT, AIMS, EMBLEMS,
CHARACTER, AND PERSONNEL OF

MORE THAN SIX HUNDRED SECRET
SOCIETIES IN THE UNITED STATES

SUPPLEMENTED BY

FAMILY TREES OF GROUPS OF SOCIETIES, COMPARATIVE STATISTICS
OF MEMBERSHIP, CHARTS, PLATES, MAPS, AND
THE NAMES OF MANY
REPRESENTATTVE MEMBERS.

COMPILED AND EDITED BY

ALBERT C. STEVENS

ASSOCIATE EDITOR OF THE STANDARD DICTIONARY AND FORMER EDITOR OF BRADSTREET'S


ASSISTED BY MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND
MEMBERS OF LIVING SECRET SOCIETIES


SECOND EDITION, REVISED TO DATE.


NEW YORK:

E.B.TREAT AND COMPANY
1907
==

 VIII

GREEK-LETTER OR COLLEGE FRATERNITIES

College Fraternities.—Secret, literary, and social organizations of students
at American colleges and universities; sometimes called Greek-letter
societies, because the names of nearly all of them are made up of two or
three Greek letters, which are presumed to refer to mystical words or to
mottoes known only to members. It is as if the Odd Fellows called themselves
the " F. L. T. " Fraternity, referring to their well-known watchwords,
"Friendship, Love, and Truth." College fraternities may be classified as
general, local, professional, and women's. There are twenty-six fraternities
in the first group, which have chapters or branches in from four to
sixty-four of the higher institutions of learning in the United States.
Membership is confined in almost all instances to students studying the
classics or those in the literary and scientific departments; membership
originally was, and in a few instances today is, restricted to upper-class
men. This has resulted in the formation of similar societies among students
in professional schools, of which four have achieved prominence and a
considerable membership. With the increase of institutions for the higher
education of women, there have appeared nearly a dozen Greek and Roman letter
secret societies for women undergraduates, half a dozen of which made
themselves known beyond the walls of the colleges where they have an active
existence. There are many college secret societies classed as local, that is,
existing only at colleges where founded, some with Greek-letter and some with
other titles, among the better known of which are the three senior class
societies at Yale. If to the foregoing there be added those which have lived,
shone, and left a record, American college life will be found to have given
birth to almost one hundred. secret societies of this particular and unique
type.

The form of government prior to 1870 was weak, consisting of general
supervision by a Grand, usually the parent Chapter, or by one chapter after
another in turn, which made laws and regulations as it pleased, communicated
the fact to the other chapters and left it to their option to obey them. But
within the last quarter of a century conventions made up of delegates from
chapters, with administrative bodies or councils, composed of alumni members,
have had a general supervision over and management of affairs, and in leading
instances have taken the place of an imperial form of government. Annual
conventions are held with undergraduate chapters, in turn, when undergraduate
delegates act in the capacity of legislators, leaving the duties of an
executive to the council of alumni. These reunions generally end with a
banquet and formal public exercises at which distinguished members deliver
addresses of welcome, poems, and orations in the presence of delegates and
other undergraduate members, their relatives and friends. These exercises are
rendered the more attractive because of the long list of alumni prominent in
the various walks of life, who may be called on to discourse eloquently
touching the fraternity and  what it means to those who enjoy its privileges,
or on literary and economic topics.

Membership in college fraternities includes active, alumni, and honorary; but
the latter, with a few exceptions, is no longer permitted to increase,
initiations being confined to undergraduates. At some of the larger cities,
graduate members have established alumni chapters or clubs. The older
fraternities, for they do not rank necessarily according to membership, have
published accounts of their origin and growth; a number have issued elaborate
and ornate catalogues, with lists of names of members arranged alphabetically
by States and by colleges, with memoranda as to rank in the society or at
college and biographical sketches of members distinguished in public life;
not a few issue magazines and other periodicals, some of which are circulated
privately. Nearly all have published music and song books of their own, in
some instances have adopted distinctive colors, and in others, flowers, 

[CTRL] [1b] The Cyclopædia of Fraternities

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Cyclopædia of Fraternities
Albert C. Stevens
©1907 E. B Treat, Inc.
444 pps -- 2nd Edition – Out-of-print
--[1b]--
New chapters of Alpha Delta Phi, Psi Upsilon, Delta Kappa Epsilon, and Beta
Theta Pi were established with comparative frequency between 1844 and 1861,
the societies ranking during that period about in the order named. During
those years thirteen new college fraternities appeared to dispute supremacy,
so far as possible, with those which were practically their inspiration, Zeta
Psi at the University of New York in 1846; Theta Delta Chi at Union in 1847;
Delta Psi at Columbia in the same year; Phi Delta Theta at Miami, and Phi
Gamma Delta at Washington and Jefferson in 1848; Phi Kappa Sigma at the
University of Pennsylvania in 1850; Phi Kappa Psi at Jefferson in 1852; Sigma
Chi at Miami in 1855; Sigma Alpha Epsilon at the University of Alabama in
1856; Chi Phi (southern) at the University of North Carolina in 1858; another
Chi Phi, this at Hobart College in 1860, and Delta Tau Delta at Bethany
College in the same year. The original Southern college fraternity, "The
Rainbow," founded at the University of Mississippi in 1842, believed to have
been an offshoot from the Mystical Seven of Wesleyan, did not live long. (See
Order of the Heptasophs.) The Princeton and Hobart orders of Chi Phi united
in 1867, and the Southern order of Chi Phi joined them in 1874, when the
amalgamated orders took the name of the Chi Phi fraternity. After the Civil
War there was not much opportunity for new college fraternities to compete
with those already in the field, except at the South, where chapters of
Northern fraternities had disappeared. As shown in an accompanying
genealogical chart of these organizations, five Greek-letter fraternities
were established at Southern educational institutions between 1864 and 1870:
Alpha Tau Omega at Virginia Military Institute, and Kappa Alpha (southern) at
Washington-Lee University, Virginia, in 1865; Kappa Sigma at the University
of Virginia in 1867; Pi Kappa Alpha at the same place in 1868, and Sigma Nu
at the Virginia Military Institute in 1869, all of which have sent out
branches and prospered. Aside from the founding in 1884 of a third local
senior society, Wolf's Head, at Yale, the past twenty-seven years have
developed few, if any, college fraternities of national repute except
professional and women's societies. The quarter of a century in this
department of college life has witnessed a rapid growth on the part of some
fraternities which, just after the war, were not ranked among the first half
dozen, and by others, the development of abnormal conservatism, with a
tendency to let well enough alone, and in some instances to live on prestige.
An accompanying chart makes it plain that after Kappa Alpha, Sigma Phi, and
Delta Phi at Union had given rise to Alpha Delta Phi and to Psi Upsilon, the
former to Beta Theta Pi and the latter to Delta Kappa Epsilon, that the line
of propagation, as it were, was divided. One course was the outcome of the
activity of Alpha Delta Phi and Beta Theta Pi, resulting in Phi Gamma Delta,
Phi Delta Theta, Phi Kappa Psi, Sigma Alpha Epsilon, Delta Tau Delta, Alpha
Tau Omega, Kappa Alpha (southern) and Sigma Nu; the other, the result of Psi
Upsilon and Delta Kappa Epsilon stimulus, including Sigma Chi, Kappa Sigma,
Pi Kappa Alpha, and Phi Kappa Sigma. Among remaining prominent societies Chi
Psi and Theta Delta Chi had their origin at Union, and Delta Psi and Zeta Psi
in New York city, where Alpha Delta Phi, Psi Upsilon, and Delta Phi had each
preceded them. The foregoing suggests a classification of college
fraternities into general, honorary, professional, women's, and-local.

The older societies in the first group may be subdivided according to
seniority and place of origin as follows:

GENERAL FRATERNITIES.

Union Triad. — Kappa Alpha, Sigma Phi, Delta Phi.

Historic Triad. — Alpha Delta Phi, Psi Upsilon, Delta Kappa Epsilon.

Pennsylvania Triad — Phi Gamma Delta, Phi Kappa Sigma, Phi Kappa Psi.

Double Triad (East). — Mystical Seven, Chi Psi, Zeta Psi, Theta Delta Chi,
Delta Psi, Chi Phi (Princeton, 1854).

Miami Triad.—Beta Theta Pi, Phi Delta Theta, Sigma Chi.

 Triple Triad—W.W. W., or The Rainbow (dead), Sigma Alpha Epsilon, Chi Phi
(University of North Carolina), Delta Tau Delta, Alpha Tau Omega,  Kappa
Alpha, Kappa Sigma, Pi Kappa Alpha, Sigma Nu.

The characteristics of the three earlier fraternities at Union College are
broadly marked. Twenty years ago and for a long time preceding, the
membership of the few chapters of Kappa Alpha (very few had or have been
established) was limited and exclusive, while the policy of the fraternity
was distinctly one of non-extension. Its immediate imitator, Sigma Phi, was
not long in securing a like classification. It, too, had a restricted number
of chapters, and a tendency to regard the grandfather as having much to do
with the man.

Delta Phi was less 

[CTRL] Fwd: FC: DVD hackers -- and web publishers -- hit with lawsuit

1999-12-28 Thread Kris Millegan





---

I am on vacation this week -- in part in NYC, though I shall escape the
Times Square rush by midday Thursday -- so I'm not writing about this case.
But it is one of the most important ones to come along in a while.

It raises the very interesting question of what kind of information a
reporter or web publisher can legally distribute. The DVD trade association
plaintiffs even say *linking* to supposedly reverse-engineered info should
be illegal: "Defendants knew or should have known when they posted or
'linked' to the DeCSS program that they were misusing confidential,
proprietary nformation..."

The DVD association and motion picture industry says their lawsuit is
necessary for their business to succeed: "the wholesale copying and
distribution of copyrighted motion pictures destroys the motion picture
industry's ability to protect its intellectual property and destroys the
market for the computer and consumer electronics industries?' DVD-based
products."

Journalists should pay attention. In a previous article on the controversy
(http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32449,00.html), I linked to one
of the mirror sites at issue. deja.com was sued in this case for linking
*automatically* to the site -- perhaps news organizations will be sued for
linking *intentionally* to the same place.

Excellent collection of links:
  http://www.dibona.com/social/dvd/index.shtml

Text of complaint:
  http://www.dibona.com/social/dvd/text/index.shtml

Wired article from this morning:
  http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,33303,00.html

Slashdot thread:
  http://slashdot.org/articles/99/12/27/194216.shtml

Some sites that were listed as defendants:
  www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=547600297
  cryptome.org/dvd-free.htm
  slashdot.org/articles/99/11/09/1342207.shtml
  cryptome.org/dvd-css.htm

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[CTRL] An Illusion Of Justice

1999-12-28 Thread Bill Richer

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 Thursday, December 24, 1998 12:00 AM
Subject: An Illusion Of Justice


AN ILLUSION OF
JUSTICE

The only thing worse than being convicted of a crime and sent to prison
when you are innocent... is when the government deliberately does it,
and then tries to keep you there.

In July, 1996, John Irvin Pitner was arrested at his home in Deming, WA,
and charged with six counts of conspiracy to overthrow the US Government.
Among other charges, he was accused of conspiring to manufacture pipebombs,
convert weapons to fire on full-automatic, and to assault  kill federal
officers
in the performance of their official duties.

These charges stemmed from a year-long undercover FBI investigation
into the activities of the Washington State Militia, of which Pitner was the
founder  former Executive Director. They were based largely on the
testimony of Edward G. Maeurer, a three-time convicted felon (fraud),
who had infiltrated the militia group as a paid FBI informant beginning
in June, 1995.

Maeurer's official reports to the FBI claimed that he had seen  handled
fully-automatic M-16's, dynamite, grenades, sacks of fertilizer  night-
vision devices stolen from Ft. Lewis, WA, at a 'fortified' room in Pitner's
garage. He claimed the militia group was planning to kill federal officers,
blow up government buildings, and assassinate David Rockefeller while
he attended a conference on the Olympic Peninsula, in WA State.
Maeurer's reports led to a full field investigation of the WSM being
conducted, and the placement of an undercover FBI agent into the group.

Seven people, including Pitner, were eventually arrested  brought to trial.
After six weeks, the jury could not reach a verdict on the conspiracy charges,
and a mistrial was declared. Pitner, along with three other militia members,
was found guilty of separate illegal-weapons charges in March, '97. Pitner,
who has never been sentenced for that crime, remains incarcerated at the
Federal Detention Center SEATAC, in Seattle, WA.

Astoundingly, according to the sworn testimony of informant Maeurer and
the FBI agents participating in this case, the following facts were made known
during the trial:

1. Maeurer had lied to his FBI handler's all during the investigation. On or
about
20 February, 1996, Maeurer was given a series of polygraph examinations by
Special Agent Raymond Lauer, a certified polygraph examiner for the FBI,
concerning what he had seen and done at Pitner's home. Maeurer recanted ever
having seen or handled any M-16's. He recanted ever having seen any grenades,
or dynamite. (The stolen military night-vision devices had earlier been
recovered
 were never in the possession of the WSM.) Instead, he "might have" seen an
M-16. Or, it might have been "a toy". Instead of actually seeing or handling
any
dynamite or grenades, he now claimed to have seen boxes which he "knew"
contained those explosives.

2. There was no 'fortified' room in Pitner's garage. A storage room,
constructed of
plywood  two-by-fours, had been built in the garage and the door was not even
kept locked.

3. Under questioning by federal prosecutors and defense counsel, as to why
he had lied about Pitner to his FBI employers, Maeurer said he thought Pitner
was dangerous and needed to be arrested.

4. Maeurer owed in excess of $35,000 in summary judgement outstanding against
him, for passing fradulent checks, at the time he began informing on the WSM.
Under questioning, he admitted that he had never re-paid any of this
court-ordered
restitution.

5. John Pitner had resigned as Director of the WSM three months prior to his
arrest, due to growing financial, marital and health problems. His wife had
left
him, he had suffered a small stroke that summer, and was no longer attending
any militia meetings.

6. Michael German (the undercover FBI agent) and Maeurer (the paid informant)
assumed leadership positions within the militia group after Pitner's
departure,
becoming members of a three-man Leadership Council heading the WSM.

7. German and Maeurer instigated every illegal activity performed by the
militia
members, after assuming leadership of the organization. It was German 
Maeurer
who first suggested building pipebombs to sell and raise money for the WSM,
through German's supposed 'contacts' in the military surplus business. It was
German  Maeurer who brought the idea up over  over again, until people
agreed to do it. It was German  Maeurer who first suggested converting
weapons
to full-automatic, and insisted on stockpiling them, and pushed the idea
until it was
acted upon. It was German who leased a warehouse in downtown Seattle, and
German who bought milling equipment needed to alter the weapons, and German
who directed people to travel out-of-state to purchase bomb components.

8. German and Maeurer caused suspicion and distrust of Pitner to 

Re: [CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-28 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Tatman, Robert" wrote:

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 CCCKKK!!! Tenorlove, you make me seriously rethink my position against
 capital punishment...

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  Pennie, you didn't do the sorority thing in college, eh?
 
  A circus is a cunning array of stunts.
 
  Tenorlove
  who hopes her kids don't read her email
 

Dear Tenorlove,

It is indeed gratifying to see that your education was not wasted.

Your academic verisimilitude is beyond impugnification.

Even though this old joke is not all it's cracked up to be,
it's beyond putrifaction.

Joshua2

PS: I consider myself a lay expert on this subject.

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[CTRL] Survivalists brace themselves for dark side of the Millennium

1999-12-28 Thread Bill Richer

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 Survivalists brace themselves for dark side of the Millennium

By James Langton in New York

   UK News: Revealed: now it's the '1900 bug'
Electronic Telegraph Y2K forum

HIDDEN in the depths of forests and remote mountain valleys, thousands of
Americans are preparing for what they believe is the imminent collapse of
Western civilisation.
Instead of welcoming in the New Year with celebrations and champagne, they
will be nervously polishing their shotguns and checking huge stockpiles of
dried food and bottled water meticulously assembled to survive in a world
without any of the comforts and conveniences of the 20th century.

The next seven days are a countdown to the moment of truth for America's
small but determined survivalist movement that has retreated to a
cavemen-like existence in anticipation of widespread chaos caused by the
so-called Y2K computer bug.

Despite assurances last week from President Clinton that most key computers
are "99.9 per cent" ready for the switch from 1999 to 2000, they expect
January 1 to herald the complete collapse of banking, transport, power and
communications.

Favourite boltholes include caves and log cabins in the Appalachian
mountains, farm houses in the less populated parts of the Midwest and trailer
parks in Texas, Arizona and New Mexico. A Christian community in a remote
part of North Carolina is selling five-acre sites for $25,000 (£15,000), with
the promise of free ploughing and a tractor with five year's supply of diesel
fuel.

Shops selling everything from camping equipment and clockwork radios to drums
of wheat and dried beans have reported record business in recent months.
Among those fleeing civilisation is Bruce Beach, a 65-year-old American who
has moved with his wife and 99-year-old mother to a huge bunker in Canada,
100 miles north of Toronto, which he has built from 45 school buses buried in
the ground and covered with concrete.

Mr Beach, who admits that his neighbours call him "Beach the nut", says he
can accommodate 500 people in the bunker and is offering a package that
includes a New Year's Eve party for $8,000 (£5,000). So far there have been
no takers.

Also getting away from modern life is Gary North, the self-styled "chief
compiler" of the Millennium Bug movement, who has prophesied doomsday from
his web site and newsletter. He believes that the American constitution
should be replaced by biblical law and recently moved from Baltimore to rural
Arkansas in anticipation of the death of up to a billion people from disease
and famine.

Mr North, who holds a doctorate in history from the University of California,
refuses to speak directly to the press because he believes that it has failed
to take the problem seriously. However, in a long and rambling statement, he
predicts the collapse of the electricity grid on January 1, followed by
martial law and food riots in cities. "We're on the Titanic," he says. "It's
time to start moving towards the lifeboats. Let the folks in the grand
ballroom enjoy their evening.

"They don't want to hear bad news, they're having the time of their lives.
Meanwhile, collect your valuables, put on a life jacket, and grab a blanket.
It's going to be a long night." Among the more ambitious ventures was a plan
for a self-sustaining town of 500 people with its own power supply in
Arizona.

The venture failed to sell a single property. Many survivalists are
fundamentalist Christians who see echoes of the biblical Apocalypse in the
Millennium Bug, which will cause some computers to read the year 2000 as 1900
and crash. Tom Clark, a fundamentalist Christian from Chicago who sells basic
supplies, including grain mills for turning wheat into flour, plans to move
out of town in anticipation of "one massive problem".

Mr Clark, who is now waiting in a secret wilderness retreat, said: "I don't
want to have 10 million people marauding through the city looking for food,
and angry because the government has deceived them." Previous predictions of
failure, including a run on the banks, have failed to materialise.

Lehman's, a family-run business in Ohio supplying the Amish with household
appliances that run without electricity, experienced a huge upsurge in orders
earlier this year, but things have been quieter since. Glenda Lehman said:
"We had a lot of people slightly embarrassed and wanting to return things.
But it doesn't take much to set things off. There was a report recently in
[the newspaper] USA Today about problems with Y2K compliance in the water
supply companies and suddenly water filters were flying out the door."

Observers say that it is difficult to tell how many Americans are taking the
threat seriously. Tim Watson, the editor of Y2K Magazine said of those taking
precautions: "They are keeping quiet, either because they don't want others
to know they are there or because they are worried people will laugh at them."


[CTRL] Panel Probed Suspected Clinton Visit to Dead Aide's Office (fwd)

1999-12-28 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Newsmax-Inside Cover

Monday December 27, 8:15 PM

Panel Probed Suspected Clinton Visit to Dead Aide's Office

Congressional investigators never got a straight answer when they
asked whether President Clinton, along with top White House
aides, had entered Vince Foster's office on the night Foster
died.

Barbara Olson, former Chief Investigative Counsel for the House
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, told NewsMax.com on
Monday that a White House memo pointing to the secret Clinton
visit raised probers' eyebrows.

 The memo, prepared in anticipation of Congressional hearings
into the Travelgate scandal by administration lawyers Jane
Sherburne and Miriam Nemetz, places Clinton in Foster's office on
July 20, 1993, sometime after the White House learned of the
lawyer's death:

 "[Mark] Gearan had conversations with [Bernie] Nussbaum
preparing for the press briefing during which Nussbaum said he
had looked in Foster's office for a [suicide] note and had not
found one. After the President had come back from Foster's
office, Gearan spoke with [David] Gergen; Gergen was calling from
the Residence." (Draft Memo: Sherburne  Nemetz, May 15, 1996 -
Investigation of the White House Travel Office Firings and
Related Matters, page 663)

 Foster, who served as the Clintons' Deputy White House Counsel,
was found shot to death in a Virginia park just hours before the
events described in that passage, according to the chronology
offered by the two White House lawyers.

Nussbaum, who was Foster's boss, along with senior White House
aides Patsy Thomasson and Maggie Williams, spent at least an hour
combing through Foster's office in search, they claimed, of a
suicide note.

Had there been corroboration that the president himself was a
part of the search party, it would have added a dramatic new
wrinkle to what many still suspect was an effort to sanitize the
room of damaging evidence.

 But Olson, who spoke to NewsMax.com during a WABC radio
interview with Landmark Legal Foundation's Mark Levin, said that
the Travelgate Committee was never able to clear up the mystery.

 "We asked Jane Sherburne about [her memo placing Clinton in
Foster's office] but never got an answer that led to anything
concrete," Olson said.

The former investigative counsel complained about the White
House's failure to seal Foster's office immediately after his
death, saying there had been so many visitors, "it was like Grand
Central Station."

 President Clinton has maintained that he did not learn about his
lawyer's death until after an appearance on "Larry King Live,"
which was broadcast from the White House the night Foster died.
But at least one other account suggests that Clinton played a
role in the Foster office search.

 "A makeup artist for CNN's 'Larry King Live' program has told
federal investigators that she overheard a conversation
indicating that Clinton was aware of Foster's death before he
appeared on the King show live from the White House library,"
reported Christopher Ruddy for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in
1996. (Ruddy is now NewsMax.com's Executive Editor.)

 The makeup artist, later identified as Rose Precopio, said that
an unidentified male aide approached Clinton while she was
preparing him for TV and said that a note had been found in
Foster's office. Precopio claimed that then-chief of staff Mack
McLarty witnessed the exchange.

 Olson hinted that her committee investigated Precopio's account
linking Clinton to a possible Foster office cover-up,
acknowledging to NewsMax.com, "Yes, I know Rose very well."

 News that congressional probers suspected Clinton may have
secretly entered Foster's office on the night he died comes just
two weeks after Fox News Channel reported that two investigators
for the Office of Independent Counsel now doubt the official
verdict that Foster killed himself.


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Re: [CTRL] Day of Deceit-FDR Pearl Harbor

1999-12-28 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Damian B. Cooper" wrote:

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 At 11:38 PM 12/27/99 -0500, Nurev Independent Research  wrote:
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 You dumb shmucks! You never learn do you? What this country needs, is good
 honest PEACE, and keeping brain dead patriots like you locked in your
 outhouses.
 
 Semper Fi gawrsh!
 Joshua2
 

 Well, dumb shmuck that I am, I would gladly settle for an "honest peace".
 Sadly, I
 don't have any confidence that we can ever expect to get an "honest peace"
 from the craven, squalid, pre-indicted plutocrats currently manipulating
 the levers of power in this
 country.

 Bill Clinton, Madelaine Albright, Al Gore, Sandy Berger, William Cohen,
 Harold Ickes,
 Hillary Rodham, Ron Brown, Janet Reno, Strobe Talbot. Honest?

 BWAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA

 DBC

Dear DBC,

You are totally right, and I agree with your above statement. I don't
know if you were joking or not about wanting an " honest war," but at
a time when this country has military bases all over the world and is
killing people in their own homelands, joking about war is not funny.
Children burn to death in wars.

The way to put those assholes you name above out of business is by not
joining the military and not funding the military. Not by looking for
an honest war. There are no honest wars. Just days of deceit.

Joshua2

PS : If I misunderstood you I apologize.

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Re: [CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-28 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Ah...you're a self-trained authority on...conjugation?

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[CTRL] Warning sounded to next US president

1999-12-28 Thread Bill Richer

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WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!

Warning sounded to next US president
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE in Tokyo


--
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The next US president must stick to a "one China" policy and make clear
Washington will never recognise Taiwan as a sovereign nation, Foreign
Minister Tang Jiaxuan said in an interview published yesterday.
"The Taiwan problem is the most difficult and challenging issue between the
United States and China," Mr Tang was quoted by the Sankei Shimbun as telling
Japanese journalists in Beijing.

"It is a major concern for us to see whether a new US president and his
subsequent administration will abide by the current policy and affirm US
standpoints" on Taiwan.

Bill Clinton leaves office in January 2001, with Republican contender George
W. Bush the frontrunner. Mr Bush recently defended Washington's "one China"
policy as well as Beijing's entrance to the World Trade Organisation.

Beijing has not ruled out the use of force to thwart independence for Taiwan.

Washington switched its diplomatic recognition of China from Taipei to
Beijing in 1979. Earlier this month, Mr Clinton reiterated his support of the
"one China" policy.

Sino-US relations soured in 1995 when Washington granted a visa to Taiwanese
President Lee Teng-hui to visit his alma mater, Cornell University.

Referring to Mr Lee's 1995 trip, Mr Tang said Japan should refrain from
allowing the President to visit.

"As for this issue, I want Japan not to tread the same path of the United
States," Mr Tang said.

"I believe the Japanese Government and Foreign Minister will take appropriate
measures against a plot by some Japanese who want to invite Lee as a private
citizen."

Mr Tang said other advances in Sino-US relations had to be seen with Taiwan
as the backdrop.

"The agreement on WTO benefited both China and the United States, but the
biggest issue lingering between the two countries is the Taiwan problem," Mr
Tang said.




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[CTRL] Y2K terrorism: truth or government agenda?

1999-12-28 Thread Edward Britton

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All:

For those of you who were fortunate enough to have opened this post, I am
proud and honored to present to you the single best commentary on Y2K and
the so-called threat of "terrorism" that I have read!! Via David House of RP:
~~
[In regard to media coverage of terrorism related to Y2K]

Yup, I share your pessimism about the 'terrorism' reports and
predictions. These news 'announcements' have given me the impression
of a prelude to war, one which is instigated by those who are warning
of a perplexing concern, but at the same time causes me distress over
the presence of a nearly concealed knife. Caesar beware!

No, if there were a real and honest concern there would either be no
announcement, (we don't want to upset the tourist trade do we?), or we
would have been getting a more balanced and steadily building report of
attempts to transport hazardous and illegal contraband, accompanied by
successful efforts at thwarting these attempts. This surprising revelation
is rather demonstrative of a security agency which has only just learned
of a national threat. If this is the case then why is no one questioning the
lateness of the data? Either we are being protected by buffoons, or
there is a deeper and more troubling problem.

No, again I say, we are looking at the all too chilling actions of a
government turned oligarchy which has begun an entertaining fulfillment
not unlike the coordinated 'news' too clearly depicted in the opening
pages and moments of the novel and movie 'Fahrenheit 451'.

A live manhunt underway is immediately broadcast to all the otherwise
overbored and overentertained video receivers of a large metropolis. As
the pursuit continues, the information which should be accompanying the
report is strangely vacant of description and detail. Gone are the
reasons or reasonable background which helps us understand that this
person taking flight is some desperate criminal, a murderer perhaps, who
deserves to be shot on site or locked away for the duration of their
niggardly life.

No, we are not to know whether this person is simply running for their
life, or avoiding the welfare or irs police, or perhaps really is a
dangerous criminal. The news coyly avoids these details and instead
continues dutifully reporting the blow by blow of the quest which is
shown by the helicopter and ground lighting and camera equipment, until
at the conclusion the desperado is subdued in whatever manner is
deemed to be proper and reasonable, and maybe will give good ratings.

How long before we can expect to receive such 'entertainment'?

David House

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Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread nessie

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
homosexual values are on the NWO agenda -



What exactly are "homosexual values" and why would the NWO promote them?



and that the nuclear family is being deliberately destroyed



Good riddance. The nuclear family is a very recent and not very wide
spread abberation. Most people on earth live in extended families of at
least three generations. Most people have always lived in extended
families since before we came down from the trees.  That's how I grew up.
That's how my cousins next door grew up. That's how most of my friends on
the block grew up. It's better. The nuclear family fragments and atomizes
society into easily managable consumer units. It fosters mental illness,
particularly neurosis, because it limits the child's role models to two
and because it discourages community. We're  genetically programmed,
hardwired as it were, to live in communities. When artificial social
constructs break down community, the mental health of the individual and
of society suffers. Our rulers know this. That's why they want us to be as
atomized and isolated as possible.  That ay we are weak, disoriented and
easy to manipulate. If we are a cloud of dust we are nothing. If we are a
rock we have strength.

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Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Sanders" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It really pisses me off to read the crap Bard sometimes writes, but I know
 that questioning him on his views doesn't work because he NEVER replies to
 anything that doesn't agree with him already. Also, since I am one of
those
 humans who need "to go back in the box" I know he doesn't give a shit
about
 what I think. Just another Eve...

What 'Bard' ignores (or is too ignorant to realize), is that the Bible is
pretty supportive of women, especially 'women of ill repute'...

The Lord Jesus made His first appearance after His crucifixion to His women
followers, not his male followers...

And He WAS 'born of woman'...  ;-)


June

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[CTRL] Join Jan15 start Global Peace Walk 2000

1999-12-28 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Please forward this invitation for you and your associates who can to come
and join the sendoff opening ceremony of Global Peace Walk 2000 in San
Francisco, Saturday, January 15th, and the beginning of its journey to
Washington DC and the United Nations, ie, "Walk a mile for Global Peace
Now!".

Following is text of the opening day flyer.  For a downloadable typeset efax
version of this flyer you can copy and help distribute see
http://www.egroups.com/group/global-peace-walk/188.html

For printable typeset efax version of main walk flyer see
http://www.egroups.com/group/global-peace-walk/187.html


--- Jan15th flyer text:

United Nations 55th Anniversary
Future Generations Prayer
We are concerned about our future and our human life.

Global Peace Walk
Develop Spiritual United Nations

{logo, includes:
Global Peace Walk
Global Peace Now
Global Peace Zone 2000}

San Francisco -- St. Louis --Washington DC -- New York / U.N.
1/15/20008/6/2000   10/9/2000 10/24/2000

Participate in the Opening Ceremonies on the first Day of this
Historic Peace Walk

January 15th, 2000 -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Birthday
9:00 AM -- War Memorial Building (Van Ness across from City Hall)
San Francisco

Bring Your Banners  Your Message

No Drugs... No Alcohol... No Violence

Bring New Consciousness... Humanity must live a Peaceful Way of Life

415-863-2084 -- PO Box 170245 -- San Francisco, CA 94117-0245
www.globalpeacenow.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

end flyer text

Check Global Peace Walk egroup for other printable flyers for GPW2000 events
en route listed by subject at http://www.egroups.com/group/global-peace-walk

Please subscribe to this list at that website address if you can help as a
local or outreach coordinator.

Thanks very much,

David Crockett Williams  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tehachapi CA local coordinator
Global Peace Walk 2000
http://www.globalpeacenow.org
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/gpw.html

GLOBAL  EMERGENCY  ALERT  RESPONSE
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000

The Vision of Paradise on Earth
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/vision.html

Urge your Congressperson to support H.R. 2545
Global Nuclear Disarmament  Economic Conversion Act
Details  Sample Email:  http://prop1.org/prop1/letter.htm

Easy indexed site to email Congresspeople  Media
http://congress.nw.dc.us/wnd
(copy  paste email letters to media and Congress)

An Agenda for Peace
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/agenda.html

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Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What exactly are "homosexual values" and why would the NWO promote them?

Well, all the gays I've known over the years were staunch Reaganite
conservatives...


 Good riddance. The nuclear family is a very recent and not very wide
 spread abberation. Most people on earth live in extended families of at
 least three generations.

And not necessarily blood kin.

What is now called 'the nuclear family' is, as you say, a recent phenomenon,
and quite frankly is not all that great, in my estimation...

It encourages a self-centeredness that older, 'tribal' societies (which
includes
most of Europe up until the 19th century) didn't have...


 Most people have always lived in extended
 families since before we came down from the trees.

And those extended families then gathered into 'tribal' units, called
villages
and towns.


 The nuclear family fragments and atomizes
 society into easily managable consumer units. It fosters mental illness,
 particularly neurosis, because it limits the child's role models to two
 and because it discourages community.

Exactly.  God save us from the cult of the 'nuclear family'


June  ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] resources for researchers and survivors

1999-12-28 Thread Smart News

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12/28

Hi !

Below please find a summary of information I have collected recently.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

Resources

Please note: Listing of these resources does not necessarily constitute our
endorsement of them. They are for educational value only and some may be
triggering. All crimes are alleged.


Measuring the Impact of Media Exposure and Hospital Treatment on Patients
Alleging Satanic Ritual Abuse by Frank Leavitt, Ph.D.  From Treating Abuse
Today 8(4), July/Aug 1998, pp. 28-29. Quotes from the article: "This study
provides evidence that clients who report SRA exhibit a set of associations
to SRA-related words that cannot be explained by exposure to the popular
media or from inpatient treatment." "Reports of ... (SRA) often come to
clinical attention based on testimony of patients about events remembered
from childhood (Hill  Goodwin, 1989; Young, Sachs, Braun,  Watkins, l991).
These memories, ...contain intriguing similarities suggesting a special
information base... similarity of detail and recurrence of patterns in
patient accounts often serve to weigh these accounts in favor of personal
experience...patients making the allegations come from vastly distant
geographic regions, yet share an unique knowledge base, ... adds to the sense
of credibility (Van Benschoten, 1990; Young, Sachs, Braun  Watkins, 1991)."
"individuals in the SRA group with low media exposure produced a greater
number of satanic associations than did individuals reporting high media
exposure to satanic ritual abuse content." from
http://idealist.com/tat/leavitt.shtml

The site J.J. Freyd's Trauma, Memory and Betrayal Trauma Research
at http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/ ~jjf/trauma.html has informattion on  J.J.
Freyd's "Betrayal Trauma: The Logic of forgetting childhood abuse" (1996)
Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press. ISBN: 067406805; 0674068068 and
Freyd, Jennifer J. "Betrayal trauma: Traumatic amnesia as an adaptive
response to childhood abuse" (1994) Ethics  Behavior 4 (4) 307-329.
"Describes psychogenic  amnesia as an adaptive response to childhood abuse
based on betrayal trauma theory Victims may need to remain unaware of the
trauma not to reduce suffering but rather to promote survival. Amnesia
enables the child to maintain an attachment with a figure vital to survival,
development, and thriving..." To order Ethics  Behavior call LEA,
1-800-9BOOKS9,  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freyd, Jennifer J.,
David H. Gleaves (1996).

A description of "The Science of Memory: Apply with Caution"  Jennifer J.
Freyd, Ph.D. Dept. of Psychology, U of Oregon, Eugene, at
http://dynamic.oregon.edu/~jjf/stressweb.html

"Multiple Personality Gift, A workbook for you and your inside family" by
Jacklyn M. Pia at  http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/6931/mpgift.htm Please
use caution at this site. It may be triggering.

Two URL's I was told about that are good finding out of print books are:
http://www.bibliofind.com and
http://www.addall.com (new and old)

J. Herman, author of "Trauma and Recovery" replies to Ethan Watters "Doors of
Memory" (Jan./Feb. '93) in Mother Jones, "...once survivors have completed
the process of recovering their memories, their stories are both internally
consistent and--often--externally verifiable. In my own study of fifty-three
survivors in group therapy, three out of four women were actually able to
corroborate their memories with evidence from independent sources."
http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/MA93/backtalk.html

"Dissociation, Trauma,  Recovered Memories, a Collection of Useful Internet
Links and Other References" is available at
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jjhall/body_d_l.html

Articles on trauma are at:  http://www.trauma-pages.com/  or add "pg6.htm" D.
Baldwin, PhD, Eugene, OR USA, 541-686-2598

"Child Abuse And Multiple Personality Disorder," P. Coons, M.D., Dept. of
Psychiatry. Ind. Univ. School of Medicine, Ind., IN 46223, "The syndrome of
multiple personality is associated with a high incidence of physical and/or
sexual abuse in childhood." http://wchat.on.ca/web/ asarc/mpd.html

"Leaping upon the Mountains" Mike Lew's 2nd book ("Victims No Longer" was the
first), focuses on the reality of recovery, the information comes from male
survivors. Small Wonder Books, P O Box 1146, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130,
http://www.abbington.com/smallwonder/order.html

BPS Report: Recovered Memories British Psychological Society, January, 1995,
at http://york39.ncl.ac.uk/www/BRIT.html has information on recovered memory.
Quotes include: "Complete or partial memory loss is a frequently reported
consequence of experiencing certain kinds of psychological traumas including
childhood sexual abuse... memories are sometimes fully or partially recovered
after a gap of many years. Memories may be recovered within or independent of
therapy. Memory recovery is reported by highly experienced and well qualified
therapists who are well aware of the dangers of inappropriate suggestion and
interpretation." Please 

[CTRL] Fwd: As Jan. 1 Draws Near, Doomsayers Reconsider

1999-12-28 Thread William Shannon






From Sex to Superconsciousness - http://www.truthbeknown.com




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-12/27/069r-122799-idx.html
As Jan. 1 Draws Near, Doomsayers 
ReconsiderThe Apocalypse Is Still 
Coming--Later 
By Hanna RosinWashington Post Staff 
WriterMonday, December 27, 
1999; Page A01 
A year ago, Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, 
who have sold more than 10 million copies of their "Left Behind" thrillers about 
the Apocalypse, prophesied global upheaval on Jan. 1, 2000. 
The Y2K bug could trigger "financial meltdown," they warned readers on their 
Web site, "making it possible for the Antichrist or his emissaries . . . to 
dominate the world commercially until it is destroyed." 
But now that the hour is upon us, the prophets of doom are retreating. 
"We don't think it relates to Y2K at all," Jenkins said. "And we're bemused 
by people who do." 
Reminded of the Web site prediction, he said, "We regret having talked about 
it." Over the last year, Jenkins said, he has been reassuring nervous fans they 
have nothing to fear. 
Even those who fully embraced the date as late as last month are now backing 
down. Some prophets are hedging their bets, reminding everyone they only said 
"maybe," or they never specified the Western world, or Jan. 1 exactly. Others 
such as the Rev. Jerry Falwell say they have read the Y2K compliance reports and 
found them soothing. All are expecting a humdrum New Year's Eve. 
Grant R. Jeffrey, author of titles such as "The Millennium Meltdown" and 
"Armageddon: Earth's Last Days," is also blase. Earlier this year, the 
Toronto-based minister wrote that the Y2K bug "may set the stage for the 
creation of the coming world government that was prophesied to arise in the last 
days." 
Now he's downsizing his expectations. "It will be frustrating, like computer 
errors, delays in waiting for planes, that kind of thing," he said. 
Jeffrey does not disavow his disaster predictions, but expects them to unfold 
only distantly, "in the Third World" and not quite so suddenly. 
"It's not a January problem," Jeffrey added. "It will manifest itself 
gradually throughout the year, like maybe in March or April or May, or even 
later." 
It seems that the Apocalypse has been postponed. Now that the date is 
tangible, signs of the second coming of Christ are becoming hazy. The millions 
of fundamentalist Christians who seized on the Y2K bug as proof that a 
techno-idolatrous world was doomed now see it as more of a nuisance. 
"The end times people are backing down," said Damian Thompson, author of "The 
End of Time: Faith and Fear in the Shadow of the Millennium," a study of modern 
doomsday cults. "People who last year became excited about the millennium bug 
are suddenly saying, 'I never said that. It was him, not me.' They're extremely 
nervous of having December 31st, 1999, pinned on them forever." 
Earlier this year, Falwell distributed a packet on "The Y2K Time Bomb," 
including a video, "A Christian's Guide to the Millennium Bug," and a Family 
Readiness Checklist, telling people to stock up on such items as gardening 
utensils, Q-tips and peanut butter and jelly. 
"Y2K is God's instrument to shake this nation, to humble this nation," 
Falwell said in a television broadcast last year. "He may be preparing to 
confound our language, to jam our communications, scatter our efforts, and judge 
us for our sin and rebellion for going against his lordship." 
But Falwell says he has read the government and banking reports and he is no 
longer a "fatalist"; in fact, he's "encouraged." A few weeks ago, Falwell 
withdrew the video and has been toning down the visions. "I don't anticipate any 
major problems," he said last week. "I would fly in an airplane that day." 
When it was first revealed, the Y2K bug suited the apocalyptic temperament. 
It's timing even validated fundamentalist numerology. In 1654, Archbishop James 
Ussher of Armagh dated creation to 4004 B.C., and counting forward using 
numerical clues, predicted Christ's reign on Earth would begin about 6,000 years 
later, during what became known in evangelical circles as the Great Week. 
From the mainstream to the fringes, evangelical Christians adopted the Y2K 
bug as their own. For the last two years, they have held conferences teaching 
the flock how to filter water, bag sand, dry peas. Popular Christian magazines 
advertised gold bullion and Rapture insurance policies (in case you were 
snatched up to Heaven but your loved ones were left behind). 
But as the day approaches, even some of the fringe groups are mellowing. 
"I'm aware of hardly anyone who's still saying 1/1/2000 is the big day," said 
Ted Daniel, who runs the Millennial Center in Pennsylvania and keeps a close eye 
on doomsday cults. "It's the usual pattern: If you're a millenarian prophet, you 
have to keep people excited. But once the date gets closer, you back off." 
The Rev. Ralph Moats, for example, relocated some of his California followers 
to 

[CTRL] Fwd: Hoffman Wire: Fun with Time Magazine

1999-12-28 Thread William Shannon





The Hoffman Wire
Dec. 28, 1999
http://www.hoffman-info.com
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Contents:

1. End of the Year Notices and Y2K Musings

2. Fun with Time Magazine

==

1. End of the Year Notices and Y2K Musings

Due to an ongoing shortage of funds and less than expected revenue from our
recently installed online bookstore with credit card acceptance, which few
Hoffman Wire recipients have patronized, I must announce that for the
foreseeable future, these Hoffman Wires shall be few and far between. If you
do not receive one for quite a while it does mean we have gone "off the
air," but rather that I have had to scramble for funds by contracting for
other work having nothing to do with revisionism. 

Next, several people too parsimonious to subscribe to my hardcopy
REVISIONIST HISTORY (RH) newsletter or purchase my audio-cassette tapes,
have solicited my views on "the forthcoming end of civilization as we know
it due to Y2K." 

I have dealt with this topic extensively in past issues of RH and on my
cassette tapes and I will not reprint articles we have published or
transcripts I have broadcast for the benefit of paying subscribers and
supporters, in this free forum. 

If that runs counter to the parasitic freebie mentality prevalent on the
Internet, tough. The blown transmission on our ancient company car, the
rotting teeth in my head and the bad health I experience from malnutrition,
runs counter to the lifestyle of any leading establishment journalist
working for Jewish interests, but such is the plight of a leading
revisionist journalist working for the truth, that "our side" with its
numerous wealthy individuals, doesn't care enough even to keep me out of
penury. In which case I can only say, share the pain, baby.

For the benefit of basic information dissemination, which these Hoffman Wire
bulletins represent, I will say that Y2K panic was seeded by our enemies,
partly to induce a fearful, paralyzing, bunker mentality. 

Gary North, Don McAlvany, Tim LaHaye and various other Christian and right
wing mountebanks are now, at this late hour, issuing damage control
statements which directly or indirectly modify or even retract their
previously spouted Y2K nonsense. For more on this see:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-12/27/069r-122799-idx.html

Another false prophet, influential fundamentalist David Wilkerson, had a
"God-given" revelation in 1998 that Wall Street would collapse by the end of
1999. 

Many of these fellows have made millions selling overpriced "survival kits"
and manuals to panic-stricken right wingers and credulous Christians who
fall for every doom and rapture hoax to come down the pike. Now these
con-men are bailing out at the last minute in order to rescue their
credibility in time for their next highly profitable hoax.

Many contemporary right wingers and fundamentalist Christians have a
psychological need to avoid practical, long haul work in political, cultural
and revisionist campaigns and will continue to bankroll incompetents and
frauds even after their false prophecies are exposed.

Y2K apocalypse will fizzle in the US, unless Bill Clinton and Co. can get
the people to panic and cause breakdowns by that means. I don't doubt that
there could be a few Y2K glitches in America amounting to some
inconvenience, but without sabotage or widespread panic, Y2K, in the US
anyway, will be a minor blip on the screen beginning Jan. 1.

Y2K will hit the Third World, China, Russia and parts of Europe harder and
this may push the US into a recession, due to problems with overseas
markets, but that's hardly "the end of civilization as we know it."

Hundreds of millions of dollars were squandered on Y2K chicken little books,
videos, supplies and "manuals" that could have gone to fund hard-headed,
practical shoe-leather organizations combating our enemies at every level.

Furthermore, how perverse that so-called Christians have been stampeded into
greeting the Third Millennium of Christ's incarnation while soiling their
pants in anxiety. 

The Talmudists are surely savoring that disgraceful spectacle.

-

2. Fun with Time Magazine

I get interview requests from the major media about every other week. Some I
ignore, others I grant, but almost all of them are distinguished by the fact
that they are virtually never broadcast or published, though the media
person almost always assures me that they will see print or gain air time.

I tend to think that my interviews are suppressed because I turn the tables
on the interviewers and fail to fit their caricatured expectations. By
defying those expectations I overturn the conditioning of the masses to
think in a pre-determined way, which is the main object of the media.

Last  month, Time magazine contacted me for a comment on the latest
"debunking" of the infamous "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." After
I 

Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

Your wrong, Sweetheart.  I care deeply what others think and I consider
it very presumptuous on your part to think otherwise.  When one strives
to live in the grace of our Lord one has to be capable of dealing with
those
who are critical of that desire.  People who possess guilt about their
lifestyle are the first to criticize and reveal their guilt of
resentment
towards those who try to follow the path of Jesus Christ.
There is more to Life than feeling good.  God has granted you the
precious gift of being able to judge what is right and what is wrong;
this He has
done to ensure you stay on the path of righteous in accordance with His
Will.  When one departs from the Path it is because one has allowed the
stench of one's environment to enter one's Soul.


It's always been my understanding that the use of foul language is not
permitted on the List.  Use of such indicates a certain weakness or
inability to express oneself coherently.
You have your views of the role of the female, and you should permit
others to hold and express their views;  even though those views are
much more traditional than yours.  The ascendancy of the female is a
goal of the Fabian Socialists who will stop at nothing to destroy our
constitutional Republic.  If two people of the same sex wish to
cohabitate
that is their business and no one's else;  the problem occurs when they
want recognition by heterosexuals of their lifestyle which is an
abomination in the eyes of our Lord.
God Blesses Those Who Bless You!
Bard

Sanders wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Thank you, Andrew!

 It really pisses me off to read the crap Bard sometimes writes, but I know
 that questioning him on his views doesn't work because he NEVER replies to
 anything that doesn't agree with him already. Also, since I am one of those
 humans who need "to go back in the box" I know he doesn't give a shit about
 what I think. Just another Eve...

 What I'm thanking you for is replying to him in such a way that I look at
 what you say and feel good again!

 Maggie

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[CTRL] Military Closing Web Sites for Y2K

1999-12-28 Thread William Shannon

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December 28, 1999


Military Closing Web Sites for Y2K


Filed at 7:17 p.m. EST


By The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Taking last-minute precautions, the Pentagon and the
federal personnel agency are shutting down some of their public Internet
sites this weekend to keep them safe from computer hackers as the calendar
rolls over to 2000.

And the Department of Veterans Affairs has decided to mail January benefit
checks to more than 2.5 million veterans on Dec. 30, a day early, to avoid
potential delays related to the Y2K computer bug, officials disclosed
Tuesday.

The early mailings ``will mitigate unexpected year 2000 interruptions of
benefit payments arising from anything outside our control,'' VA spokesman
Terry Jemison said.

The Social Security administration announced last week that checks and
electronic deposits for 44 million elderly and disabled Americans also would
be dispatched for delivery a day early. Y2K-compliant files for electronic
Social Security payments will be at banks by Dec. 30 rather than the usual
Dec. 31. Checks will be mailed earlier as well. Most people normally would
receive Social Security benefits on Jan. 3.

While making some last-minute adjustments, the government continued to sound
a note of optimism about the country's readiness.

The nation's top health official said people are not hoarding drugs so there
will not be any shortages of medicine over New Year's.

``Americans have used common sense,'' Health and Human Services Secretary
Donna Shalala said, citing a 60-90 day supply for nearly every category of
medicine.

Federal officials also expressed confidence about 911 calls going through and
public safety officials being able to dispatch services. But they advised
Americans to keep emergency numbers on hand.

``There was a way to call the police, to call ambulance services, long before
911,'' Federal Communications Commissioner Michael Powell said.

Some problems, particularly overseas, may not become evident for weeks. And
those that show up Jan. 1 in early time zones may not be a good predictor of
what the United States can expect, according to Bruce McConnell, director of
the United Nations International Y2K Cooperation Center.

Some of the government's emphasis switched from potential computer glitches
-- nearly all of these have been fixed, officials insist -- to the threat of
cyber attacks.

Many military installations around the country will be shutting down their
Web sites temporarily as a safeguard against intrusions -- as well as a
protection against Year 2000 viruses that might be launched on New Year's
Eve.

``Within some defense agencies, they have thought the most prudent action was
just to take their sites offline,'' said Pentagon spokesman Adm. Craig
Quigley.

While the Pentagon intends to keep its central Web site --
www.defenselink.mil -- in operation, Quigley said one site being temporarily
blocked is that of the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, which oversees
military pay. ``We're going the extra mile to make sure our people's pay
isn't affected,'' Quigley said.

Also being taken offline this weekend: the Web site maintained by the Office
of Personnel Management, which services the rest of the government payroll.

Susan Hansen, a Pentagon spokeswoman who deals with Y2K issues, said
officials felt it was important to keep the main ``DefenseLink'' site up
because ``that's how we will be transmitting information during the
rollover.'' She said special precautions were taken to secure the site.

Bases temporarily closing their Web sites include Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base in Dayton, Ohio. About 30 public sites are maintained at the base,
including Web pages for the United States Air Force Museum and the Air Force
Institute of Technology.

``We feel they (hackers) may plant some things on servers or e-mail that
might go off'' after the New Year begins, said Timothy Conley, deputy
director of the 88th Communications Group at Wright-Patterson. He said there
is no threat to national security because the public-access sites are
separated from secure sites, which will remain operational.

The commandant of the Marine Corps., Gen. James L. Jones, canceled weekend
travel plans, although aides said the changes were family-related and not
prompted by fears of Y2K disruptions.

Capt. Pete Mitchell, a spokesman for the corps, said the Marines were taking
various steps to make sure there is a ``seamless transition'' to 2000.

``It is a network security issue as much as it is a Y2K issue,'' said
Mitchell. ``All the branches are beginning to do things to restrict, to limit
the risks of intrusion by decreasing electronic footprints.''

In addition to tracking stations set up by each service, a centralized
Pentagon network monitoring system has been set up.

As for civilian communications, industry and federal leaders reiterated their
caution against people picking up the phone just to see if it is working or
dialing 911 just to 

[CTRL] Skolnick-Assassinations Of 20th Century...Why?

1999-12-28 Thread William Shannon

 -Caveat Lector-

Assassinations Of The
20th Century - Why?
By Sherman H. Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12-28-99




The 20th Century came to a close and those who procured political murders
have not been heard from. Are there two sides to the story? If so, how far
into the 21st Century will it take until we hear THEIR side articulated? And
will the common people accept the explanations?

In the past, I have attended sizeable meetings of political assassination
researchers. At the beginning, many of those present greeted me
friendly-like, even shook hands with me. During the meetings I asked sticky
questions. So, my so-called "friends" and "acquaintances" hooted me down,
demanded that I be silenced by being thrown out of the covention hall. What
was it that so offended them?

I asked questions about the financial explanation of political rub-outs. I
wanted discussions of the economic forces FOR and AGAINST bloody deeds done.
I dared, from an historical and intellectual stand-point, to ask if those who
arranged political assassinations had any justification whatsoever? If so,
what was it?

Those in attendance, concerned about their book and lecture contracts,
suddenly looked upon me as an ENEMY. "Turn off your tape recorder, Sherman",
they shouted. I came with a small audio recorder in which I plugged a
"shotgun microphone", that could pick up discussions thirty feet away and
more. What scared them so, that they wanted to grab my wheelchair and roll me
forcefully out of the place? Was it my long-nose microphone which to tape I
obviously pointed at them like a gun? I did ask my questions to the speakers
in a polite voice.

At one meeting I asked Oliver Stone's chief researcher for his movie "JFK",
whether the Rothschilds, friends of the Kennedy family, financed the 42
million dollar production. It ran in the Rothschild movie chain, Loew's. She
glared at me. Later, when Oliver Stone himself showed up, she grabbed him by
the arm, saying, "Don't talk to HIM!" Perhaps indulging me, because of my
physical disability, Stone allowed me to point my mike at him as I asked a
few questions and then she pulled him away.

HERE ARE SOME ITEMS NEEDED TO BE DISCUSSED:


If there were a well-educated populace to talk to, well-grounded in finance
and history, and IF they would listen carefully, could those that were FOR
political murder make a thoughtful, persuasive case?

Through their monopoly press, the Establishment brain-washes us daily to
their point of view. On all kinds of subjects. Why could they not run
documentaries setting forth THEIR JUSTIFICATION for preserving themselves
through political murders? Because WE are too stupid to understand? Because
it would endanger the "powers-that-be"? What? Why? And they have to keep
telling us each time, a "lone nut", a "lone assassin" did it?


THE MURDER OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, 1963: He was interfering with the
Oil Cartel. He wanted to take away the IRS trick favoring them, the oil
depletion allowance. He wanted REAL MONEY, not toilet paper from the Federal
Reserve, a PRIVATE money ship masquerading as the U.S. Government central
bank. A handful of ruling families own the Fed and profit from their issuance
of Federal Reserve note "money" disguised as the "U.S. Dollar". Contrary to
the U.S.Constitution, the Federal Reserve charges interest on their paper
money issuance, benefitting certain ruling families.


Kennedy was the first Catholic President of the U.S. Although labeling
himself as only nominally a Catholic, he was perceived as being under the
thumb of the Vatican. He violated Church Canon Law, however, by going along
with the attack upon ANOTHER Catholic country, namely, Cuba. Some later
explained JFK was tricked into the aborted invasion at the Bay of Pigs. Did
his sin justify murder BY THE CHURCH?

The Military Brass perceived him as soft on the Soviets, as a
communist-sympathizer. Those who commit treason, so the logic goes, like JFK,
are to be shot, right? Others now claim Kennedy was interfering with the
future of the State of Israel, justifying them in snuffing him out. The book
"Final Judgment" by Michael Collins Piper lays out a purported circumstantial
case Israel was implicated in the murder of JFK. The book rejects, out of
hand, what others claim, however, that Nazi war criminals were involved.[As
documented by the late assassination researcher, Mae Brussell.] And the book
does not explain how the U.S. Secret Service, the FBI, and the CIA, being the
Protestant/Catholic Establishment,---how and why these espionage entities
could have covered up all this FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE JEWS.

JFK wanted to stop the war in South-East Asia, thus permitting, supposedly,
the Soviet expansion to the Philippines and even to Australia, a former
British prison colony. Kennedy was letting Dr. King rile up the country on
racial issues. BUT OVERLOOKED: that JFK set loose in the U.S. that the era of
the common man had arrived. A dangerous psychology, directly confronting the

[CTRL] Y2K: Apocalypse Now? No, BUT No 3 Day Storm EITHER! (fwd)

1999-12-28 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

Yardeni Warns Y2K Problems Still Ahead

NewsMax.com
December 27, 1999

New York--The Y2K rollover date - January 1, 2000 - is just days
ahead, and one major economist remains steadfastly pessimistic.

Edward Yardeni, chief economist for Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown,
appeared on CNBC's "Squawk Box" last week to say that the
"alarms" were not heeded for Y2K and there is no use sounding
them now.

He believes, as he has argued for the past year, that Y2K will
cause "major" problems world-wide, and will be more than a "bump
in the road" - as many Y2K pundits have suggested.

Yardeni says that Y2K will adversely effect the economy during
the first six months of 2000 and it is sure to be a Dow-buster.

In an interview with Entrepreneur magazine, published this month,
Yardeni explained why his is a Y2K skeptic:

. The federal government has stated most of their mission
critical systems have been tested and compliant. But Yardeni
complains there is no standard as to "what 'mission critical'
means." He says the feds have yet to do testing on 40 major
programs, and he can't believe, for instance the FAA can be
compliant in time.

. He chafes at the idea that Y2K problems will just be "local."
Yardeni responds to such brush offs: "My response is that that's
where we live!" Too many local problems add up to a "national
hurricane," he said.

. Yardeni has done some research and he doesn't like what he
finds. "My surveys among IT professional have found something
disturbing. Software patches from third party vendors for
so-called mission-critical programs hadn't been provided in 20
percent of cases as of September."

. Internationally Y2K could spell disaster. "I'm concerned about
the state of oil companies in Mexico and Venezuela, since they
got a very late start. Kuwait didn't seem to know it even had a
problem until last year. The Japanese got a very late start but
claim they'll be ready. I'm skeptical. The rest of Asia doesn't
look like it's in good shape. China is at the top of everyone's
list of countries likely to have Y2K failures …"

Short-term Yardeni is a bear. He advises investors to "overweight
government bonds, underweight stocks, and accumulate cash in the
portfolio." After the Y2K problems pass in 6 months Yardeni
believes such investors will be in a better position to get back
into the bull market. On CNBC, Yardeni cautioned that Y2K
problems may not be apparent in the waking hours of the New Year,
but may surface in the days and weeks after as supply, shipping
and communications problems related to Y2K surface.


 As Jan. 1 Draws Near, Doomsayers Reconsider
 The Apocalypse Is Still Coming--Later

 By Hanna Rosin
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Monday, December 27, 1999; Page A01

 A year ago, Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, who have sold more
 than 10 million copies of their "Left Behind" thrillers about
 the Apocalypse, prophesied global upheaval on Jan. 1, 2000.

 The Y2K bug could trigger "financial meltdown," they warned
 readers on their Web site, "making it possible for the
 Antichrist or his emissaries . . . to dominate the world
 commercially until it is destroyed."

 But now that the hour is upon us, the prophets of doom are
 retreating.


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[CTRL] UK e-mail black-out for Y2K?

1999-12-28 Thread Edward Britton

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All:

Just in case the big listservs pull this in the US, we would all be wise to
get a copy of AOL instant messenger and ICQ just in case. Once the word is
out, more will follow suit. It Looks like some of the "big boys" want to
clamp down on communication just when it is needed most. The reason: why,
cyber-"terrorists" of course.

Edward   +
~~~
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Big groups act on e-mail threat
By Jean Eaglesham, Legal Correspondent, and Thomas Catán in New York

Some of the UK's largest companies are blocking electronic mail over the
New Year in a bid to thwart the arrival of a threatened wave of up to
200,000 computer viruses. The move mirrors growing fears in the United
States that "cyber-terrorists" and anarchists will try to mark the
millennium by sabotaging computer systems.

Earlier this week a number of US air force bases said they would block
access to their web sites over the new year to try to ward off viruses.

Glaxo Wellcome, the pharmaceuticals giant, and the car manufacturers
Vauxhall and Volkswagen are among the big companies planning to block e-mails.

Ford yesterday refused to disclose whether it was following suit but said
it was "ensuring the system was safe from outside infection".

The companies fear their e-mail systems could offer an entry point for new
viruses, many of which may exploit concerns over the millennium bug - the
inability of some systems and programs to cope with the date change to
January 1, 2000. A new virus could display a message saying, for example,
that programs are "not year-2000 compliant".

"This could create a considerable amount of confusion, especially in the
more paranoid organisations," said Graham Cluley, senior technology
consultant at Sophos, an anti-virus company.

Computer experts warn that hackers could also introduce genuine year 2000
problems. "To block all e-mails could be seen as an over-reaction to
viruses alone, but then there's the year 2000 question. Simply because a
system is compliant now doesn't mean it will remain so," said Lars Davies,
a research fellow at the University of London.

Companies that are blocking access are having to resort to old-fashioned
forms of communication. Glaxo Wellcome said it had back-up fax arrangements
in place across the world for the 24 to 48 hours its e-mail would be down.
It added that "very, very few" employees would be working over the affected
period.

Other companies are stepping up their warnings to employees. British
Telecommunications said it was aware of the increase in viruses that would
be triggered by the date change and had alerted all its employees with
remote access to its intranet.

British Aerospace said it was running e-mail as normal but watching out for
specific viruses - "we have a very good idea where a lot of these are
coming from or could come from".


Y2K: Years of preparation to squash the millennium bug
E-COMMERCE: Hot competition for executive talent


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[CTRL] Year 2000 sparks dash for weapons

1999-12-28 Thread Edward Britton

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So much for all that liberal snivelling over gun control. I love this story!
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The run on guns
Year 2000 sparks
dash for weapons

By Julie Foster
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

With the millennium just four days away, gun purchases in the month of
December are at an all-time high, according to FBI statistics, showing more
than a 20 percent increase over December 1998.
Government officials played down the role that fear -- of Y2K, and
particularly of Y2K-related domestic terrorism -- has likely played in the
record gun purchases. Rather, FBI spokesmen credited the booming economy
and the Christmas gift-giving season as probable reasons for the huge jump
in nationwide firearm background checks.

"We expect a December spike based on Christmas sales," said Daniel Wells,
acting operations manager for the FBI's National Instant Criminal
Background Check system, according to an Associated Press report. "It's a
bit larger than we expected."

Larger indeed. Federal officials conducted 1,045,799 background checks from
Dec. 1-26, compared to 871,644 checks during all of December 1998. And
Thursday, Dec. 23 broke all records, with the FBI reporting an
unprecedented 67,000 background checks in one day.

The background-check system, operated by the FBI and state governments
since 1993, is required by the federal Brady law and replaces the voluntary
checks on handgun buyers that used to be conducted by state and local
police and sheriffs.

Since the nationwide system began on Nov. 30, 1998, state and federal
officials have conducted 9,823,408 checks, said FBI spokesman Kevin
Wilkinson.

Although handgun-filled stockings may not account for the large spike in
background checks, fear of terrorist attacks in the U.S. may.

Earlier this month, suspected terrorist Ahmed Ressam was captured trying to
smuggle explosives into Washington state. Another suspected terrorist,
Lucia Garofalo, who has ties to Algerian Islamic groups, was stopped at the
Vermont border. Both suspects have ties to Osama bin Laden, according to
the FBI.

As a result of these and many other ominous events, the government has
issued its sternest public advisories ever with respect to the dangers of
terrorist attacks against Americans.

The White House has cautioned Americans at home and abroad to use "caution"
while celebrating the new millennium, saying that crowds and "suspicious"
individuals should be avoided. A Justice Department press conference urged
citizens to be extra aware and cautious during the holiday season,
reporting to authorities suspicious strangers and unattended packages and
bags.

Despite all the year end concern, however, John Koskinen, President
Clinton's official Y2K advisor, says Americans appear not to be worried
about Y2K.

"Even now, at this late date, we see no evidence at all of any increased
anxiety by the public as a result of Y2K," he said from a special $50
million Y2K command center set up by the White House.

Koskinen also noted that Americans have not demonstrated financial concern
over the Y2K computer glitch that could affect banking systems nationwide.

"We see no indication at all that people are increasing in any noticeable
way financial transactions or withdrawal of funds,"' he said. "And we have
no indications thus far that anybody is, you know, starting to stock up or
load up on gasoline."

Despite Koskinen's upbeat assessment, the truth is, for months Americans
have been withdrawing money in preparation for anticipated Y2K problems,
with repeated polls showing a large percentage of Americans making
significant cash withdrawals. Indeed, the Federal Reserve system has
stocked national banks with double their normal cash reserves to prevent
any bank runs that could result from too many banking customers withdrawing
too much money at the same time. Likewise, Australian, Canadian and British
banks have increased their cash reserves up to four-fold.

So, along with stockpiling -- or as detractors call it, "hoarding" -- cash,
Americans also appear now to be purchasing firearms in record numbers.

As for gasoline -- when Energy Secretary Bill Richardson and the American
Automobile Association, from a downtown Washington D.C. gas station urged
Americans not to "hoard" gasoline in anticipation of Y2K-related shortages,
Richardson stood in front of a mock gas gauge reading halfway between
"Empty" and "Full."

"If you have half a tank on New Year's Eve, you're okay," promised the
Energy secretary.

With the near-impossible task of simultaneously assuring Americans that
there would be neither shortages of gasoline nor price increases, yet also
urging motorists not to fill their tanks before "the big weekend," a
reporter asked Richardson why consumers needed to fill their tanks only
halfway if there were no anticipated gas shortages.

Richardson answered that only motorists gearing up for a long trip have
cause to fill the tanks. Steve Hayes, managing 

[CTRL] Worldwide Millennium chaos, and still four days to go

1999-12-28 Thread Edward Britton

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Worldwide Millennium chaos, and still four days to go
By Robert Uhlig, Technology Correspondent

   'Keep bug at bay' with final check on the bank

ONE of the fallacies surrounding the Millennium bug is that it will strike
precisely at midnight on Dec 31, but it has already caused mishaps,
confusion and failures several hundreds of times around the world.
Many disruptions occurred when computers or electronic systems infected
with the bug tried to make a date-dependent calculation that ended in 2000.

Others took place because self-checking routines in computer software
became confused when they attempted to forecast ahead and had to deal with
a two-digit year date, such as 00 or 01 for 2000 and 2001, that is a lower
number than the current year.

But most failures have been the result of human errors introduced when
computers and electronic systems were being fixed and tested for the
Millennium bug. In some cases, such as the troubles at the Passport Agency
in August, the Millennium bug fixing process caused an already over-loaded
system to collapse.

Most Millennium-bug-related mishaps have been covered up or averted before
they caused noticeable damage. But among those that have been recorded are:


Last week, Wells Fargo, a large American bank, sent out certificate of
deposit renewal notices to its customers dated Jan 1, 1900. The previous
day about 3,600 customers in Iowa City received water bills that threatened
them with an extra charge for payments made after Jan 3, 1900.

Earlier this month, when the Bermudan Stock Exchange went back to using an
old computer system during a Millennium bug updating programme, its daily
electronic exchange report listed dividend payout dates as 1900.

On Dec 9, Deutsche Bank was hit by a day-long computer shutdown that
prevented it from undertaking international transactions for a day. A
Deutsche Bank source told the trade publication Computer Weekly that the
crash was related to the Millennium bug and happened when the bank was
upgrading transaction management software.

In September, the Inland Revenue sent out National Insurance certificates
which erroneously had dates printed in early 1900, rather than early 2000.
A tax Certificate of Exemption stated: "You do not have to pay Class 2
National Insurance contributions from April 10, 1999 to April 6, 1902".
Computer experts said it was almost certainly a problem with the Inland
Revenue's mainframe systems, which came on top of other problems the
Revenue has had while updating its systems for the Millennium.

In August, the Revenue erroneously threatened a law-abiding company with
the bailiffs because Millennium bug work prevented staff from realising
that the company's tax payments were up to date. In a letter of apology, a
Revenue officer wrote: "I cannot give details of our Year 2000 measures and
progress as you will appreciate that this is confidential,
Government-sensitive information. But I can say that the above measures are
causing extreme problems within the Inland Revenue, particularly this
office, and have been for several weeks now."

The American government's Social Security Administration sent out more than
32,000 letters to benefit claimants with Jan 1, 1900 as the date when some
of their benefits stop.

In August, the National Air Traffic Services had to switch off its computer
systems for a weekend and revert to pen and paper during a year 2000
upgrade. The upgrade came shortly after NATS declared itself ready for the
Millennium. NATS claimed it was for normal maintenance work.

Also in August, 4,000 Londoners were left without power over a weekend
after a Millennium bug upgrade went wrong. London Electricity was
attempting to make its power-key meters Millennium compliant, but when
customers used the new keys, the meters were corrupted and cut off their
power.

In July, it was discovered that serious faults in the Coastguard Service's
new computer system could put lives at risk during the solar eclipse. The
system was ordered to avoid year 2000 problems and was being installed at
the time but one coastguard officer said: "It has so many glitches and
faults and crashes all the time."

In June, four million gallons of raw sewage flooded a suburb of Los Angeles
when a computer mistakenly closed a gate, blocking a major sewage line. The
sewage overflowed 500ft on to the streets and into Lake Balboa Park. The
spill occurred when city officials were testing a Y2K contingency plan.



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1999-12-28 Thread Eagle 1




This should get every one's 
attention...Name This Country:
709,000 regular (active duty) service 
personnel293,000 reserve troopsEight standing Army 
divisions20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat 
aircraft232 strategic bombers13 strategic ballistic missile 
submarines with 
3,114 nuclear warheads on 
232missiles500 ICBMs with 1,950 warheadsFour aircraft 
carriers, and121 surface combat ships and submarines, plus all the 
support bases,shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a 
naval force.Is this country Russia? . . . 
NoRed China ? . . . 
NoGreat Britain ? . . . Wrong 
AgainUSA? . . . 
HardlyGive Up?Well, 
don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this globalsuperpower 
because this country no longer exists. It has 
vanished.These are the American military forces that have 
disappeared since the 1992 elections.
Sleep well, America.


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