Re: [CTRL] [Hel-LOW!] Do We Live in INTERESTING TIMES?!? (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread Donald Park

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 Dear Doug:  Have read your articles with interest over a number of months,
 maybe years, I've lost track.  I appericate your perception and above all
 your passion.
 I live in the south of Portland down in tiny Grants Pass land, even 10
 miles out of town, in a rented, falling down house, that me, my third wife,
 and 2nd batch of kids  numerous ducks and chickens call home.  I am one of
 those people born at the end of WW II, that has just barely managed to
 survive in this contrived century.  I tend to think that you belong in that
 catagory too, if not in date then in spirit configuration.
 Not that it matters a great deal, (in deep meditation one day a couple
 of years ago) I had a spirit pass over me that said simply, "the earth is
 doomed."  My personal belief turns that statement into, "this age of
 mankind, is over."  That is, the corrupt materialism that threatens
 humanity.  So me and mom started putting stuff away that would be needed in
 a more simplistic enviroment.  We feel pretty good about our preparations so
 far and no matter the immediate outcome of the date change we will continue
 slowly updating our preparations.  In my spare moments, I dowse with a
 pendulum (Hay, its as good as any decision based on a board of experts) and
 it repeadly shows Portland as in trouble.  Big trouble in the next few
 years.  The only city that 'may' remain standing intact on the west coast is
 San Fran.  Take that for what it may be worth to you.
 I try not to take myself or ideas  or anything else, too seriously.  Our
 time on this earth is short, no matter how you look at it.  I feel lots of
 folks are going to be badly let down by trusting in the judgement of others,
 particularly Government of any kind.  I again, appericate your efforts at
 trying to 'wake them up', but what a futile task.Good Luck and God
 Speed.  Dhenish Donald Park

To Doug McIntosh; writer,on occasion, for Gold-egale.com. A true compampadre!

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[CTRL] Duh....Nose Rings LOL

1999-12-30 Thread earthman

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One of those racey 'Revelation' sites.
Includes Sithchin, Hoagland, Garden of Edin, Holograpic Universe, The Major
takeover and why Astrology soon won't work anymore ??

Peter

http://homepages.go.com/~anichi/index2.html

Urgent to read enclosed one page printed 10K and take personal action
however each individual may be able to help uncover the coverup.

Also, read 18K two-page linked at top of this included page and all the
links on the right of both pages.

WE MUST STOP SITTING ON OUR HANDS AND EXPOSE THE SECRECY BY DEMAND. COPY
AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AS FAST AS YOU CAN. I AM EMAILING TO ALL NEWS
MEDIA, MAGAZINES, MINISTERS, TALK SHOW HOSTS, ETC. IF EVERYONE DOES
THIS, HOPEFULLY, WE MAY MAKE A DENT INSTEAD OF JUST GOSSIPING BETWEEN
URLS.

THANK YOU FOR HONORING MY PROFOUND INSIGHTS ON THESE MATTERS.

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Re: [CTRL] Bill Z. Bubb

1999-12-30 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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Bubba seems to be one of those words that has been given a new meaning over
time.  I think it was Piper who said Clinton could not be a Bubba as he
attended Yale and J2's friends call him Bubba, etc.  The word Bubba used to
mean brother, specifically older brother.  It is the younger child trying to
call the older child his brother or "Bubba" as it usually came out.  Now it
seems to mean some beer-swilling, redneck fool particularly of southern
origins.  Just as southerners never say "ya'll" for singular as in movies
and on TV (it is sort of a contraction for all of you) there used to be some
meaning to many of these quaint expressions.  By this definition, Clinton is
most certainly a Bubba.  J2 probably is not--suspect he is an only
child--and Mr Shannon thinks all southerners are Bubbas.  Interesting word.
Amelia

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[CTRL] Intruder Stabs Ex-Beatle Harrison

1999-12-30 Thread Tenorlove

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Intruder Stabs Ex-Beatle Harrison By Kate Kelland

 HENLEY-ON-THAMES, England (Reuters) - An intruder armed with a knife
stabbed former Beatle George
 Harrison four times in the chest in a pre-dawn attack at their home
near London on Thursday, a police
 spokesman said.

 The spokesman said Harrison, 56, was in hospital in a stable condition
after fighting off the intruder at his
 home in Henley-on-Thames on the outskirts of London. His wife, Olivia,
was also wounded in the attack
 and was in hospital.

 ``The injuries aren't life-threatening,'' police spokesman Guy Bailey
said.

 The 33-year-old attacker was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder
at the 100-room mansion.

 Bailey said a member of the Harrisons' staff telephoned police to
report the attack at 3:30 GMT on
 Thursday.

 He said it was not clear if the attack was an action by an obsessed
fan similar to the 1980 assassination in
 New York of another ex-Beatle, John Lennon, or a robbery attempt.

 But the attacker was from Liverpool, the birthplace of Harrison and
the other Beatles members.

 ``Taste in music is pretty far down the questions police initially ask
a suspected murderer,'' the
 spokesman told Reuters.

 Bailey said Harrison fought with the intruder to protect his wife, who
suffered head injuries in the
 struggle.

 ``The intruder has head injuries so there was a serious struggle put
up by Harrison and his wife,'' Bailey
 added.

 The attack happened 19 years after Lennon was shot dead on December 8,
1980, by obsessed fan Mark
 Chapman outside his New York apartment building.

 ``It just brings a chill to you when you think about what happened to
John Lennon,'' said radio DJ Jono
 Coleman who was a friend of Harrison.

 ``Suddenly, the day before the brand new century starts, another one
of our prized, most fabulous
 people like George Harrison and his wife are attacked in their own
home,'' he said.

 ``He's the one you'd least expect something dramatic to happen to,''
Beatles biographer Hunter Davies
 said.

 ``He's been a recluse in many ways in the lasts few years. He's gone
into spiritualism, spiritual things.''

 Other Ex-Beatles Informed Of Attack

 Harrison, the former lead guitarist of the Beatles, lived for many
years in the shadow of Lennon and Paul
 McCartney and was rated a major musician in his own right only after
the break-up of the ``Fab Four.''

 During the group's reign as the kings of pop music, the Beatles'
youngest member became devoted to
 oriental mysticism. He persuaded the other Beatles to travel to India
to sit at the feet of the Maharishi
 Mahesh Yogi.

 ``George leads a very quiet life now,'' Sir George Martin, the former
Beatles' producer, said after the
 attack. ``He's very down to earth. He likes nothing more than doing
his garden.''

 A spokesman for the Beatles record company Apple said McCartney,
Lennon's widow Yoko Ono and
 Beatles drummer Ringo Starr had all been advised of the attack.

 ``Everyone is deeply shocked but relieved and thankful that George and
Olivia are OK,'' Apple said in a
 statement.

 Like the other Beatles, Harrison came from a working class family in
Liverpool in northwest England. He
 was born on February 25, 1943, the youngest of three sons.

 It was not until Harrison was 14 that he showed any interest in music,
learning a few chords on a
 second-hand guitar bought from a classmate. He teamed up later with
Lennon and McCartney and the
 group played at Liverpool's Casbah club.

 A rapid succession of hit singles and albums from 1962 on turned the
Beatles into the most famous rock
 and roll group in the world.

 The wave of ``Beatlemania'' -- massive media coverage of their every
move and the hysterical screaming
 of their concert audiences -- eventually led the four to give up
touring in 1966 in order to concentrate on
 recording.

 In 1966, Harrison married the British model Patti Boyd. He immersed
himself in mystical philosophy,
 became a vegetarian and gradually withdrew from the public glare.

 After the group's demise, Harrison scored remarkable success with the
single ``My Sweet Lord'' and a
 series of albums.

 Harrison's wife Patti left her husband in 1974 after falling in love
with his long-time friend, guitarist Eric
 Clapton.

 In 1978, Harrison married his present wife, Mexican-born Olivia Arias,
who gave birth to Harrison's only
 child, son Dhani who is now aged 21.
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[CTRL] Latest jail sex scandal sparks probe

1999-12-30 Thread Richard Sampson

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 http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/newstand/bos12301999/p1s2.htm

THURSDAY, DECEMBER 30, 1999

Latest jail sex scandal sparks probe

Suffolk officer placed on leave

By Jack Meyers

Another sex-behind-bars scandal broke out at the
Suffolk County House of Correction yesterday just
as Sheriff Richard J. Rouse fired four correction
officers in connection with a brutal assault on a
detainee.

A nine-year veteran, identified by sources as Mark
Vaughn, was placed on administrative leave after
an investigation found "credible information" that
he repeatedly engaged in sexual activity with a
female inmate at the House of Correction in
October.

The Boston Police Department's sexual assault unit
was notified yesterday about the allegation.

Sources said a second correction officer has also
been implicated in the sexual misconduct probe, but
as of yesterday afternoon he had not been put on
leave. One source said the delay was caused
because Rouse's aides were unable to notify the
officer of the action.

That officer is suspected of failing to follow
mandated procedures, not of any sexual conduct,
sources said.

"Based on the affidavit we received (Tuesday), the
sexual activity took place sometime in early
October. It was more than once but for a period not
exceeding two weeks," said Gerard Lydon, a
spokesman for Rouse.

The affidavit provided details of the sexual
relationship, several of which have been
corroborated, Lydon said.

The new sex-with-inmates probe caps a year of
embarrassing incidents at the two facilities under
Rouse's command, including a prison pregnancy, a
lieutenant enmeshed in a drug dealing network,
two high-profile cases of assault on detainees, and
an inquiry targeting Rouse's own internal affairs
chief.

The earlier sexual misconduct was initially denied
by Rouse but he did an awkward about-face after
the female prisoner became pregnant. Four
correction officers were fired this fall over the
incident.

The series of alleged misdeeds has sparked an FBI
probe of Rouse's operation as well as a number of
civil lawsuits.

His own communications office even had an
embarrassing incident last week when Janice
McKittrick, Rouse's first hire when he was
appointed by Gov. William F. Weld in 1997,
allegedly "went after" a subordinate with a pencil
last week, according to sources. The subordinate
reportedly needed medical attention and has not
been at work this week.

Rouse's administration is also feuding with the two
unions representing the bulk of his workforce.

Members of Local 419, House of Correction officers
who are working without a contract, took a "no
confidence" vote this fall and have been posting
bumper stickers and signs critical of Rouse.

At the same time, the head of Local 1134, which
represents 300 correction officers at the Nashua
Street Jail, is planning to hold a press conference as
early as today to criticize Rouse's "political" hirings
and firings.

The event was prompted by the firing yesterday of
three correction officers and a nurse and the
demotion of a supervisor in connection with the
beating of a detainee, Leonard Gibson, in October.

Gibson reportedly has Tourette's syndrome, which
can prompt outbursts of uncontrolled profanity,
insults and muscle spasms.

Terry Zeferakis, president of Local 1134, blasted
administration officials for the actions.

"They are covering up their own lack of
management skills," said Zeferakis. He declined
further comment, saying he would provide a
detailed response at the press conference.

Officer William Benson and Lt. Eric Donnelly were
fired yesterday for allegedly assaulting Gibson in
his cell at the Nashua Street Jail's medical unit.

Ironically, Rouse nominated Donnelly as
"Correction Officer of the Year," an award bestowed
on him by Gov. Paul Cellucci last year.

Officer Joseph Upton was fired for allegedly failing
to report the beating. Upton was manning the unit's
control room during that shift.

Richard Sederman, a nurse, treated Gibson for his
injuries but allegedly did not investigate the
incident in a timely manner. He was also fired
yesterday.

Lt. Jose Burgos, who was supervising the medical
unit during the alleged beating, was suspended for
30 days and demoted two ranks for failing to
investigate or report the incident.

The Gibson beating is one focus of the FBI probe of
the sheriff's office.

The Herald reported earlier this month that agents
removed a number of records and other material
from the jail several weeks ago related to the
Gibson case.

One of the items taken was a document purportedly
describing the beating which was hidden behind a
mirror by a prisoner occupying the cell across from
Gibson's.

Rouse's own campaign finances have come under
recent scrutiny as well after a Herald review found
that a large amount of his fund raising involved
contributions from his own staff and contractors.

Some contributors were among those given plum
jobs and promotions by the sheriff.

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[CTRL] FW: [Tips] Jailed for Healing

1999-12-30 Thread Fransy

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This is GOOD information.
Frans

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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 10:24 AM
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From: Jeannette [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: OBRL-News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:- Jailed for Healing

Orgone Biophysical Research Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Forwarded News Item

Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups

**

Message From the Growing American Gulag - Jailed for Healing

(NOTE: According to a Rachel Report recently posted to OBRL-news, 25% of
all imprisoned human beings on planet Earth are imprisoned in an American
prison.  One in every 20 Americans will be incarcerated at some point in
their life.  This chance rises to one in four if you are black.  America's
growing population of imprisoned persons is now at around 2 million.  About
2/3's of these people are imprisoned for non-violent offences -- 60% of all
federal prisoners are there for drug-related convictions.  Federal law in
the USA now treats healers who employ unapproved medicines the same as it
treats dealers selling illegal narcotics, such as cocaine, heroin, etc.
The following post in part discusses the blood test methods of Gaston
Naessens, which is similar in some respects to Wilhelm Reich's blood test
-- dissimilar in other respects -- but shows once again that the malicious
attacks of the medical-pharmaceutical industry are not limited only to
Reich.
 J.D. )

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Introduction:

YOGA*  for the 21st CENTURY


*(The Purposeful Life of the SELF Conscious MAN.)
http://www.sivakalpa.org/siva2.htm

Awakened at 4 a.m., coffee, shower, morning prayer and off to the camp
kitchen. Breakfast is  prepared for approximately 300 men. After
cleaning the institutional kitchen, we start over again preparing
lunch.

After work, a session on the track, the weight room, the bocci court or
Hatha Yoga class with The White Lotus Foundation: "Healing Arts" tape
series with Ganga White, Tracey Rich, Patricia Walden, or Rodney Yee as
master guides.  http://www.whitelotus.org/

Rest and dinner, then 4 to 6 hours of work on a translation
transcription of THE HOLY QURAN from the ancient Arabic into modern
English text.  Then rest and sleep until the cycle begins again the next
morning.

No meat, no bread, no desserts except fruits, no alcohol, no sex and no
leaving the confines of the small mountain camp.  Does this sound like
life in an ashram?

No, it's a federal prison camp in Schuylkill, Pennsylvania, North of
Harrisburg.  The diet is survival by choice;  the rest is making the
days count instead of counting the days.

My "crime" was making available the knowledge of and access to 714X, a
homeopathic camphor compound which is well regarded and a highly
successful therapy against cancer.  The mandatory portion of my sentence
was completed on July 26, 1997, after which began a three year probation
period.

We built a modest enterprise and sponsored the formal introduction of
714X to the American people.  We endured modest hardships and helped
thousands of people and saved hundreds of lives. All who responded to
our efforts were terminal cancer patients, who had been given up as
hopeless, after receiving the standard orthodox therapies of surgery,
chemotherapy and radiation.

Many of those people are still alive today and many extended their
lives for months or years.  After all, at the terminal stage of cancer,
there are no guarantees, only potential and hope.

Taking on the federal government proved to be a very costly, yet
rewarding challenge.  A wise man once told me:  "Impossible is a word
found only in a fool's dictionary."  Pressure continues to this day
against me, my family, the corporation and our business associates by
the Food and Drug Administration ("FDA").  This eventually led to
intense investigations, federal indictment, prosecution, trial,
conviction and sentence of 19 years in jail, which was reduced to a year
and a day by a compassionate judge, appeal and total financial ruin.

French microbiologist, Gaston Naessens, who resides in Quebec, Canada,
first introduced 714X some 20 years ago.

It has since been used by over 100,000 terminal cancer patients, as
well as early stage cancer patients, in numerous countries with varying,
yet impressive, degrees of success, without one instance of any side
effect.  Furthermore, it may be used as a preventive and is inexpensive.

714X was made legal by prescription for Canadian citizens by the
Canadian Department of Health and Welfare in 1989 after a three-year
emotional court battle, which was won by Gaston Naessens.  The story of
this remarkable genius, his microscope, his phenomenal advancements in
understanding the blood, his ability to pre diagnose cancer and
degenerative disease up to two years prior to its manifestation, his
discovery unlocking the 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flu

1999-12-30 Thread Fransy

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I advise the 100% natural pure grapefruit seeds extract; fantastic for flu
and many other things too!

Happy New year to all,

Frans (from Belgium)

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Behalf Of Eagle 1
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This was the first year I ever took the flu shot,  besides the military
flora of shots some 20 odd years ago,  and also this year took the pneumonia
shot...  I have been around people who've missed weeks of work, sicker than
a dog...  but unlike years past where I caught every flu bug coming down the
pike,  I've remained quite healthy.

I do feel very sorry for those who have gotten sick this year.  I understand
it's one of the worst strains yet,  with even worse ones to come.

eagle 1


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[CTRL] Strategic Intelligence...What you don't know...…

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan

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National Emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. In
a Letter to Congress stating "in light of the dangers of the proliferation of
nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons ("weapons of mass destruction" --
WMD) and of the means of delivering such weapons, I issued Executive Order
12938, and declared a national emergency under the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)." Read the letter carefully,
there are expanded criteria which provide an all new platform for future
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Terrorism vs. Americanism
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[CTRL] U.S. Faces Atomic Threat . . .

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.strategicintel.com/atomic.htm"U/A
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Might as pull-out the big ratchets . . .Pixs at website
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U.S. Faces Atomic Threat

Washington: FBI Director Louis Freeh confirmed to Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA)
that missing Soviet Suitcase sized atomic devices may be stored in secret
locations throughout the United States See Address to Congress October 27,
1999 Weldon, (a leading congressional expert on Russia and the Chairman of
the House Armed Services Committee), has focused attention on reports that
132 Soviet-made Tactical A-bombs with dimensions equal to those of a small
suitcase may be found in secret caches located in upstate New York, Montana,
California, Texas, and Minnesota. The Tactical weapons each carry a yield of
10 kilotons. The Threat was made known during an interview with General
Alexander Lebed, Russian National Security Advisor in 1997. Corroberating
information was given during a Voice of America broadcast in October, 1997.
Voice Of America Transcript:

INTRO: A RUSSIAN SCIENTIST HAS TOLD THE U-S CONGRESS THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT
SECRETLY BUILT AND MAINTAINED AN ARSENAL OF TERRORIST
NUCLEAR WEAPONS. V-O-A'S DAVID SWAN REPORTS FROM CAPITOL HILL.
TEXT:

THE FATE OF THESE SUITCASE-SIZED BOMBS IS THE SUBJECT OF GROWING CONCERN IN
THE HOUSE AND SENATE. THE CONTROVERSY BEGAN WHEN FORMER RUSSIAN NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISER ALEXANDER LEBED SAID MORE THAN 80 OF THEM ARE UNACCOUNTED
FOR.
ANOTHER ONETIME PRESIDENTIAL ADVISER, ALEXEI YABLOKOV, HAS NOW
TESTIFIED THEY WERE BUILT IN THE 1970'S, NOT BY THE SOVIET MILITARY BUT
INSTEAD BY THE OLD K-G-B (SECURITY SERVICE).

FOR WHAT? FOR TERRORISTIC AIMS. EXACTLY -- ONLY FOR TERRORISM. IT WAS (THE)
COLD WAR. IT WAS MAYBE THE MIDDLE OF THE COLD WAR. AND THEY TRIED TO FIGHT
THIS CAPITALISM, THEY TRIED TO KILL CAPITALISM THROUGH THESE UNUSUAL WEAPONS
RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES HAVE REPEATEDLY DENIED THE DEVICES EVER EXISTED. MR.
YABLOKOV SAYS THEY WERE SIMPLY NOT INCLUDED ON OFFICIAL LISTS OF SOVIET
NUCLEAR WEAPONS. HE ADDS, THE BOMBS MAY NOT HAVE SURVIVED TO THE PRESENT DAY
BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO REPLACE THEIR NUCLEAR MATERIAL.

BUT U-S OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WORRY ABOUT THE SECURITY OF MANY
RUSSIAN WEAPONS AND THE DANGER THAT NUCLEAR MATERIALS MAY FALL INTO THE HANDS
OF MOBSTERS OR TERRORISTS.



With the very existence of this caliber of weapon in question, Strategic
Intelligence has obtained information which leads this reporter to believe
that the threat is real.

The following series of photograph’s depict a U.S. Warhead named MADM (medium
atomic demolition munition) which, when adapted yields up to 15 Kiloton’s.
The Size of the warhead is less that 12" X 12" X 27". With the triggering
device the unit weighs less than 163 pounds.

The Warhead is the cylindrical object second from the left
Remember, this is 1960's technology. The casing (far left) is not required.
All that is required is the capped warhead (includes initiator) and a timer.

This is the Carrying case for the MADM.
Total weight of weapon, under 163 pounds

This Technology is from early 1965. Today’s Technology offers a smaller size,
higher yield warhead. Yield: 200 Kilotons.

For comparison purposes the bomb dropped on Hiroshima called the 'Little boy'
yelded 15-16 Kilotons.

"A bright light filled the plane," wrote Lt. Col. Paul Tibbets, the pilot of
the Enola Gay, the B-29 that dropped the first atomic bomb. "We turned back
to look at Hiroshima. The city was hidden by that awful cloud...boiling up,
mushrooming." For a moment, no one spoke. Then everyone was talking. "Look at
that! Look at that! Look at that!" exclaimed the co-pilot, Robert Lewis,
pounding on Tibbets's shoulder. Lewis said he could taste atomic fission; it
tasted like lead. Then he turned away to write in his journal. "My God," he
asked himself, "what have we done?" (special report, "Hiroshima: August 6,
1945")
note: Paul Tibbets was Colonel, not "Lt. Colonel," when he was the pilot of
the Enola Gay.

The Little Boy generated an enormous amount of energy in terms of air
pressure and heat. In addition, it generated a significant amount of
radiation (Gamma ray and neutrons) that subsequently caused devastating human
injuries.

The people who saw the Little Boy often say "We saw another sun in the sky
when it exploded." The heat and the light generated by the Little Boy were
far stronger than bombs which they had seen before. When the heat wave
reached ground level it burnt all before it including people.

The strong wind generated by the bomb destroyed most of the houses and
buildings within a 1.5 miles radius. When the wind reached the mountains, it
was reflected and again hit the people in the city center. The wind generated
by Little Boy caused the most serious damage to the city and people.

The radiation generated by the bomb caused long-term 

[CTRL] OEN 12/30/99

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
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Year 2000


Sarin Gas Attack Leader Freed in Japan


A new messiah.

A SENIOR member of the Aum doomsday cult was released from jail in Japan
yesterday amid fears that he will assume leadership of the group, reviving it
in time for the Millennium.

More than 100 police surrounded the prison in Hiroshima, western Japan, in
preparation for the release of Fumihiro Joyu in case he was attacked. But the
police were far outnumbered by journalists and television cameras providing
blanket coverage of his return to freedom.

Joyu, 37, had served a three-year sentence for perjury and forgery in
connection with the cult's activities. He was its public relations chief. He
was in Russia at the time of Aum's sarin nerve gas attack on the Tokyo
underground system in 1995 when 12 people died and thousands were injured.
The cult's leader, Shoko Asahara, is still on trial in connection with the
gassing and other crimes. Other senior members have been sentenced to death
for their part in the attack. Joyu is expected to fill the void left by the
guru he still refers to as "messiah". Many cult experts fear that his return
just before the end of the century could attract a new wave of young people
into the cult.
Joyu emerged from the jail looking pale and thin. He did not speak, but
released a statement before boarding a plane for Tokyo. He said: "I plan to
return to the group in Tokyo but since I have just got out of prison and know
nothing about my surroundings, I will not discuss my future now."
The London Telegraph, Dec. 30, 1999


Digital Society


DVD Round One Goes to Hackers


Suit attempts to prohibit WWW links.

In a lawsuit that accuses 72 Web site owners of posting -- or linking to --
illegal DVD software code, Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge William J.
Elfving declined the DVD Copy Control Association's request for a temporary
restraining order on Wednesday.

"We think he made the right decision about not having the temporary
restraining order," Electronic Frontier Foundation executive director Tara
Lemmey said.

EFF attorneys provided stop-gap legal defense to prevent the many individuals
targeted in the suit from going unrepresented at the hearing.

DVD industry attorneys could not be reached to comment on the judge's
decision, nor have they ever publicly commented on the suit.

The judge's decision came after attorneys for both sides argued in a packed
courtroom over the temporary restraining order, which would have forced
individuals and Web sites named in the suit to remove the code from the
sites.

The allegedly illicit code is compiled into the software utility DeCSS.
Programmers say the software was first created because of the lack of DVD
playback software for the Linux computer operating system.

Although the software's exact origin has not been legally established by
either party in the case, a group of Norwegian programmers are said to have
reverse-engineered Windows player software to provide DVD playback for
Linux-based computers.

The industry's suit said the DVD protection scheme was unlocked by "hacking"
and/or improperly reverse-engineering software created by CSS licensee Xing
Technology Corporation.
The case takes its next major step at a hearing for a preliminary injunction
in January.
"It's important to continue to allow the speech to be open and posted while
we go through this process," Lemmey said. "And I think the judge understood
that importance."
Wired News, Dec. 29, 1999
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[CTRL] A Place Called Waco

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan

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A Place Called Waco


a review by Craig Goodrich


The arts of power and its minions are the same in all countries and in all
ages. It marks its victim; denounces it; and excites the public odium and the
public hatred, to conceal its own abuses and encroachments.
-- Senator Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky), 1834

We often hear, from our graying elder TV pundits and our ingratiating,
trust-me politicians, that Modern Society requires adjustments (always minor
ones, of course) to Constitutional guarantees of personal freedom. Surely the
Founding Fathers can't have meant this political philosophy, or pictures like
that, or powerful guns like those, or drugs like these when they framed the
First or Fifth or Second or Fourth Amendment. Obviously we have to (carefully
and reluctantly) suppress this or that or the other in the name of [all
together now] Public Safety, so our society and values can survive into the
[everybody ready?] Next Millennium.

With all due respect, O Exalted Airheads, yes they did. The Bill of Rights is
not about large-capacity magazines or flintlocks. It's not about networked
computers, television sets, handbills, or quill pens. It's about the
relationship between the people and their government. It says nothing
whatever about what the people are allowed to do, but specifies clearly and
unambiguously what the government is absolutely forbidden from doing, for any
reason, under any pretext.

Because the Founding Fathers were well aware that when a government is
allowed to place any consideration above the personal freedom of its
citizens, it becomes the worst possible threat to the security of the people
and the survival of the society.


And to anyone who doubts that this even more true today than it was in the
1790s, I present Exhibit A: the recently-published book A Place Called Waco,
by former Davidian David Thibodeau (and Leon Whiteson, Perseus/Public Affairs
1999, 365 + xviii pages, $25).

The book is Thibodeau's first-person account of the Davidians, from his first
encounter with David Koresh at a guitar shop in Los Angeles (Koresh, a guitar
player, was getting together a band to do spiritual rock; Thibodeau was
trying to make it as a drummer) through the conflagration of April 18, 1993
and its denouement.

Let's review the events at Waco. I know you don't want to. I don't want to.
Nobody wants to. Just when you thought it was safely forgotten, somebody has
to write a damn book about it. Sorry. No pain, no gain.

In the OfficialNewYorkTimesNBCTimeNewsweekCBS version, the Federal Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) bravely attempted to serve a search
warrant for illegal machine guns and explosives on the fortified compound of
a violent, heavily-armed cult, but was ambushed when they arrived on February
28, 1993, because the Davidians had been tipped off. Then the FBI took over,
and after many weeks of intense, fruitless negotiations attempted to use tear
gas to end the standoff. But the Davidians, totally under the control of the
charismatic Koresh, opted for mass suicide and set fire to their compound.
Nearly all of them died in the fire on April 18.

That's the story you get when you run reality through your Ted Koppel Secret
Decoder Ring. Well, at least the dates are right.

Anyone with even a casual interest in the case has known for years, from
alternative publications, the Internet, and televised hearings on CSPAN
(unfiltered by newsroom agendas), that a much more accurate version of events
goes something like this:

The BATF had suffered a spate of bad publicity concerning both endemic,
chronic sexual harassment in their offices and their destruction of the
Weaver family in the 1992 Ruby Ridge disaster. They badly needed some kind of
heroic event to improve their public image prior to the Congressional budget
hearings in mid-March. In their files they discovered that a box containing
gun parts and dummy hand grenades, addressed to a group near Waco, had broken
open in shipment, and UPS had reported it. BATF's Waco office did a cursory
investigation of the Davidians, discovered some old allegations by an
ex-member of the group, and reported the likelihood that there were a lot of
guns in the hands of an offbeat sect at Mount Carmel.

So, with visions of laudatory headlines and "confiscated arsenal" photo-ops
dancing in their heads, the BATF bureaucracy planned the raid, hoked up
enough of an affidavit to give their favorite judge an excuse to issue a
search warrant, and put out the word to their friends in the press. To
provide even more impressive action for the TV coverage they arranged to
borrow military helicopters, on the pretext that the Davidians were operating
a methamphetamine lab on the premises.

(Like the many "Drug War" exceptions to the Bill of Rights, there is an

Re: [CTRL] When there *IS* no martial law/NWO/UN Y2K take over,will

1999-12-30 Thread KDS

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Just remember..Failure to Plan, is a Plan to Fail...
ks

True Patriot wrote:

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  But what if they are right

 A completely valid question. Turnabout is fair play.
 If they are right, then you'll never hear an apology from me. Why? Because
 if these wack jobs *ARE* right, the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA whatever will 1) shut
 down e-mail 2) throw me into a "UN concentration camp" 3) kill me or 4) a
 combination of 1-3. In any event, apologies will be out of the question.
 HOWEVER, when it does NOT happen, the e-mails will be up, no one will be in
 "UN concentration camps" and no one will be killed by the NWO or whatever.
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[CTRL] [7] Politics in America, by Robert L. Kocher

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Politics in America


Part 7: A Psychotic Social Psychology, Continued


by Robert L. Kocher

Today, the American population is more vulnerable to psychological consensus
because psychological consensus has become the dominant proportion of their
lives. We have become a psychological society from several standpoints.
First, the typical American now lives a life psychologically distant from any
correction by unyielding physical reality. The environment Americans now live
in is primarily a hazy world of psychological interaction and theorizing
rather than an environment characterized by interaction with the real
physical world. In the academic world the life is one of semi-isolation, with
very little direct real-world interaction. Many people in the non-academic
world work in social bureaucracies with emphasis on social interaction rather
than in the concrete world of bricks, agriculture, or machines which by their
unyielding physical lawfulness teach an intellectual realism and impose an
intellectual and personal discipline. Not enough people hit their fingers
with hammers to promote the realization there are consequences which are real
and cannot be argued out of existence. Married or unmarried couples have
abstract relationships where the primary form of activity, other than sex, is
psychoanalyzing each other. For a night out, they go to movies with
convoluted psychological plots.

An example is a group of people similar to many others I've seen. The woman
in one of the marriages is a well-known clinical psychologist in the New York
area, married to a professional man. She, herself, has been in long-term
psychotherapy three times and is presently dependent upon several
antidepressant and mood altering medications to control her depression and
anxiety. Her husband is entering long-term therapy for the third time. She's
in a combined practice with five other psychologists and psychiatrists. One
of her professional associates in practice is severely depressed. Another
member of her associates in practice, a woman who has been living with a man
in an unfulfilling and psychologically twisted five- year long "relationship,"
 has been in long-term psychotherapy twice, with no positive consequences. A
fourth member of the practice is a man married to a woman who also has a
Ph.D. Their oldest son recently committed suicide and their twelve-year-old
may need to be institutionalized for psychological problems.
This group is, in turn, loosely associated professionally and socially with
others in similar conditions, many of whom are in the mental health
professions. They've all been, or are, in psychotherapy. For practical
purposes they take turns treating each other as psychotherapy patients—giving
each other appropriate deferential professional courtesy during the
therapeutic process. (At this point I'll probably get threatened by 2,000 law
suits by people claiming I've written accurate intimate details of their
personal lives.)

In uninvolved observation of these people, it's possible to step back and
take an overview. This is an extended group of people whose primary life
consists of psychologically analyzing each other. They are basically passive
and isolated, sitting around analyzing each other's problems, analyzing each
other's analysis of each other's problems, analyzing each other's analysis of
each other's analysis of each other. They have no other life and there is
little additional input into their lives or into the room they are sitting
in. Living lives of triviality and emptiness, they have run out of problems
and run out of psychological interpretations to their problems and run out of
psychological interpretations to their psychological interpretations of their
situations. Occasionally they will attend further schooling, clinics or
seminars on new psychological theories, then come back to re-analyze
themselves and each other with that new school of thought.

Invariably, the psychological analyses they devise have a general element of
evading the fundamental source of the problem. Their analyses avoid the real
issues in their lives, and play well with other social and professional group
members or play well with the latest psychological fad rather than dealing
with the truth.

Development Without Content

Self-development, the psychology of self-development and psychotherapy all
bear something in common with the teaching profession. It's possible to learn
the techniques and methodology of teaching, or to learn the process of
learning, without learning material content to be taught. There are people
who graduate as teachers and who teach, but without involvement in or depth
of knowledge of the subjects to be taught. They can talk about how to teach
and their commitment to learning how to teach, but they 

[CTRL] Fwd: Decade Forecast: Latin America

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan






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The Latin American Pressure Cooker

SUMMARY

Latin America's flirtation with free markets and liberalization is
far from over, but it is moving into some turbulent times.
Nationalist, populist and leftist forces are being energized by
what is called anti-neo-liberalism. At the same time, Latin
American elites who are finding themselves buffeted by market
competition are re-examining their position. There remains
substantial support for privatization and market liberalization,
but the consensus of the 1990s is clearly fraying. Economic
downturns coupled with instability in the northern tier of Latin
America could reverse the trends of the 1990s. Latin America
remains a complex and turbulent region although no uncontrolled
crises are anticipated.


ANALYSIS

Latin America has been shaped in the 1990s by three forces, all in
some way related to the collapse of the Soviet Union. The first,
and most important, has been the opening of Latin America to market
forces within countries, within the region and between the region
and the rest of the world. The second has been the collapse of the
left as a defining, continent-wide, powerful force standing in
opposition to existing regimes. The third, which actually predated
the second, has been the withdrawal of the military from the
region's political life and a general trend toward constitutional
government.

The effect of market forces on relatively closed economies can be
enormous and devastating. We see the most extreme case in the
former Soviet Union, where the introduction of a market economy has
led to massive social disruption, growing inequality and economic
chaos. The Soviet experience and that of Latin America's are
similar. Latin America historically limited the free market in
various formal and informal ways. Most countries controlled the
flow of foreign capital and used informal political and social
arrangements to limit competition.

As in the rest of the world, the movement toward market economies
swept through Latin America, and with it came substantial political
and social problems. The shift toward market economies created
competitive pressures on state entities and private companies
controlled by oligarchs. It increased efficiency, but also
increased unwelcome pressure on entities that were not used to
challenges. On the other side, the application of market forces to
previously managed environments has created substantial social
dislocation in order to restructure the economy more efficiently.
This includes geographical dislocation of populations, increased
inequality as the capital formation process gets underway, the
collapse of traditional businesses and the massive disruption of
stable social relations.

Market economies tend to create two types of opposition. The first
comes from the elite who see competition as threatening to their
social position and economic advantage. The second is from the
lower classes, who see their lives disrupted as the market re-
engineers society. Since the pay-off from market disciplines is far
from immediate, they frequently experience massive social
disruption and increased work-place rigors without experiencing the
benefits.

In Latin America we are seeing the beginning of the inevitable
backlash against the free market. The attack is coming from three
directions. The first is from those sectors of the elite that see
themselves as losing out relative to other sectors. This is
particularly intense among the elite who have failed to establish
strong relations internationally in Europe and the United States.
Second, there is a backlash among the middle classes, and
particularly among managers who work for established, state-
controlled or protected enterprises that are under new competitive
pressure. For them, the free market has created both job security
and lifestyle issues. Finally, there is a backlash from labor,
which sees itself experiencing increased productivity pressures
without equivalent improvements in pay.

This is a broad coalition, yet it is not yet a deep coalition,
because economic growth over the course of the last decade has
smoothed out many of the tensions. But over the past year or two,
the growth surge has become both uneven and in some cases reversed.
As the inevitable business 

[CTRL] ABOUT 90% OF ALL PC's ARE NOT Y2K COMPLIANT

1999-12-30 Thread Bard

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ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOUR COMPUTER ON JANUARY 1,
2000?

http://www.pcbugfix.com/

Bard

The arts of power and its minions are the same in all countries and in
all ages.
It marks its victim;
denounces it;
and excites the public odium and the public hatred,
to conceal its own abuses and encroachments.
-- Senator Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky), 1834

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Re: [CTRL] ABOUT 90% OF ALL PC's ARE NOT Y2K COMPLIANT

1999-12-30 Thread Eagle 1

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Hi Bard,
Yes,  I know what's going to happen to my computer on January 1st...
It's still going to be sitting on my desk,  in my office.  When I turn it
on it's going to work just fine.  I upgraded for "y2k"  four years ago...
My dinosaur works just fine.  I've even rolled it up to 2020 several times
and nothing's happened yet. I have no reason to believe it will.

Don't you think it's a bit late to be thinking of  "year 2000" fixes?
But then I suppose better late than never?

eagle 1


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 ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOUR COMPUTER ON JANUARY 1,
 2000?

 http://www.pcbugfix.com/

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thu.1 - y2k minus 2

1999-12-30 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991230a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ ORO: http://english-www.hss.cmu.edu/cultronix/szembek/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# NATIVITY NASTINESS: Jesus Statues Stolen Across The U.S. In North Jersey
  alone, 7 Jesus figurines have been grabbed from Nativity scenes. Papists
  say there's a disturbing national trend of thefts. "It's not just the baby
  Jesus, either," says a Catholic flack. "We've seen several Marys taken,
  too." One priest on the lookout for a JeezKid says: "I told the children,
  'We want to pray for this person that they will be touched by God and they
  will return it to us.'" http://bergenrecord.com/news/jesus199912294.htm

: Have you stolen any cult/religious artifacts lately? Do you like stealing
representations of deities? Aren't you afraid they might get pissed, strike
you down, or at least inflict you with hives/fleas/halitosis/flatulence???

@ Warning signs of a destructive cult:
  http://www.factnet.org/headlines/destructive_cult_warning_signs.html
# MORE THAN 300 KILLED IN INDONESIA - religious clashes leave more dead
  nearby: http://cnn.com/1999/ASIANOW/southeast/12/30/indonesia.violence/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ THE MUSEUM OF TALKING BOARDS. "Ouija knows all the answers. Weird and mys-
  terious. Surpasses, in its unique results, mind reading, clairvoyance and
  second sight... As unexplainable as Hindu magic--more intense and absorb-
  ingly interesting than a mystery story... It draws the two people using
  it into close companionship and weaves about them a feeling of mysterious
  isolation. Unquestionably the most fascinating entertainment for modern
  people and modern life." http://members.tripod.com/~Ouija_/

: Are you fascinatingly entertained by weejee boards? Have you emotionally
bonded with your weejee partners? Does weejee promote sexual activity? Eh?

# Walk with bare feet on broken glass. Dip your hand in molten lead. Lie
  on a bed of nails. Not to worry: physics will protect you. Go ahead, try
  it - I double-dare you: http://www.csicop.org/si/9911/willey.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# IRONIC ISN'T IT? (Newsweek) There's a backlash against everything else -
  why not irony too? But it's hardly likely. "If irony isn't literally wired
  into the human brain, it seems an inevitable response to the human condi-
  tion." http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/ae/a64536-1999dec19.htm

@ Irony: a rather sound basis for national policy, in the British view. Not
  taking things too seriously is a good way to avoid bloodshed and conflict:
  http://www.economist.co.uk/editorial/freeforall/current/index_xm3604.html

: D'ya take things too seriously, not seriously enough, just right? Are you
ironic enough? Are aliens? Do wars/genocide/hatred/abductions result from
insufficient irony, a lack of a sense of humor, fixation on the trivial?

  "Taking your work seriously is essential. Taking yourself seriously
   is disastrous." --Dame Margot Fonteyn.

# RESSAM HAD INGREDIENTS FOR POWERFUL CHAIN REACTION EXPLOSIVE - 'A lot of
  people would die' - http://cnn.com/1999/US/12/29/terror.wrap/index.html
# Dehumanization and low self-esteem caused by lawyer jokes are intolerable,
  says an ABA spokesman. Lawyer jokes are a form of hate speech. Fuck'em.
  http://ljx.com/cgi-bin/f_cat?prod/ljextra/data/texts/1999_1004_31.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Thoughts on time travel http://iit.edu/~bosabri/time.html, time travel
  for beginners http://geocities.com/CapitolHill/9335/timetravel.htm, on
  building http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ngzF92/jarrypub/works/time.html a
  time machine, and a guide http://members.tripod.com/Xronos/Chronos.html
  to the nine-dimensional universe. Just in case you want to skip Xmas and
  all the start-of-the-last-year-of-the-twentieth-century nonsense. And go
  waste some time at: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Lindsay/weblog/latest.html

: Have you time-traveled lately? In which direction? Have you designed/built
/used a time travel machine lately? Is it technical, magic, alien, divine??

# Color-programmable paint and floorless elevators. Soil will be turned into
  food  we'll talk with telepathy. It's the unreal world of nanotechnology.
  Or is it magic? http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/1999-12-08/feature_p.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ALL AROUND US: The biggest thing to happen to music this century was its
  evolution into a soundtrack for living. "Before recording, nobody realized
  how much empty space there was in the world, at work, at home, in the car
  and bus, in the exercise room and at the neighborhood bar and restaurant,
  waiting to be filled with music." Well, it's better than filling visual
  

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thu.1 - y2k minus 2

1999-12-30 Thread Tatman, Robert

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That's "frumious bandersnatchi," as anyone who has read Larry Niven's Known
Space stories knows! Sheesh. You'd think the toves weren't slithy, and that
they weren't gyre and gimbal in the wabe... And as for the Jub-Jub Bird...
Is *everything* a snark?

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[CTRL] FW: FOLLOW UP ON SEATTLE, PROPOSAL FOR STRATEGY, 2.edit.

1999-12-30 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


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Amendments have been received under paragraph 1 and 3 :

To save the planet, the strong momentum of the great
historic victory in Seattle is released in fulfilling
of a series of major objectives based on the decisive
continuation and broadening of the coalition between
workers, farmers and NGOs:

1. ROLL BACK THE CORPORATIONS' OVER-NATIONAL
INSTRUMENTS FOR OPPRESSION (WTO, WB, IMF,
UN SECURITY COUNCIL, NAFTA, EU, APEC, ETC.)

The disclosure in Seattle of the crimes of these
organisations continues by chasing the planners of the
crimes against humanity and nature wherever they meet.

To prevent the corporate mass media monopoly from
belittling the demonstrations, we should beforehand
categorize them as big or small demonstrations.
And to make sure that the big demonstrations really
get big, they should be organized many months ahead,
as was the case in Seattle.

Possibly a vote on the Internet should decide which
events should be defined as small and which big, so
that the backing of the respective events can be
foreseen.

After Seattle we may not even have to make threats in
order to get the attention of the media, only a hint
that we might have to provoke the police to become
violent, if the media coverage is inadequate.
You can never tell.

Planned flexibility should be implied to cope with the
expected upgradation of the precautionary measures
from the other side.

The principles of non-violent direct action as trained
so systematically and practiced so bravely in Seattle,
http://www.reclaiming.org/starhawk/wto.html
normally are the preferred tactics.

The preparatory organizing should include fund-raising
for support of arrested protesters and victims of police
brutality.

Whether in connection with demonstrations or separately,
international caravans spreading the word across
countries or continents have proven an efficient means
of getting around the corporate mass media monopoly.
http://members.aol.com/pgacaravan/

Wherever possible, the general disclosure of the evil
nature of the corporations' over-national organisations
is accompanied by direct action against the individual
organisations.

The World Bank Bonds Boycott Campaign depends on
everybody's contribution to persuade the bondholders,
e.g. pension funds, universities, municipalities, etc.,
to sell and not buy the World Bank bonds,
http://www.preamble.org/cej

2. CREMATION OF THE VERY MOST CRIMINAL
CORPORATIONS

The historic Cremation Monsanto campaign
http://www.igc.org/igc/en/hg/karnataka.html
is carried through and extended to others on the
Top 10 List of excessively criminal organisations.

Just a few successful cremations will have a profound
preventive effect on other corporations, cf.
http://www.globalexchange.org/economy/corporations/


At the same time as we break down the present evil
system, we build up the new  A L T E R N A T I V E :

3. FREE ALL MINORITIES !

Almost all of the New World Order's insane, gruesome
wars are about the lack of right of minorities to become
independent of oppressive states.

The contradictions normally result from unnatural
borderlines decided by imperialist powers without
regard to the peoples.

It must become a matter of course that any minority
has the right to establish its own state.

Rules must be set up for the referendum to be arranged
within the minority.

The arrangement and control must be entrusted an
international body independent of the corporate rule
such as the United Peoples.

The establishment of the actual about 100 new states
in itself will make life difficult for the imperialist powers
and the corporations' overnational imperialist
organisations and contribute significantly to end the
corporative globalization and rule.

Therefore this proces will be fought by all means
under cover of numerous nicely sounding arguments.

Some time during 2000 a conference will be sought held
among the actual about 100 minorities.

All organisations, groups and individuals who wish to
sponsor/support the conference are requested to
contact us before January 15, with information of the
ways in which you want to contribute.


4. FUNDAMENTALLY NEW ECONOMIC SYSTEM

The present economy based on destruction of the natural
resources is replaced by the economic system that
builds up the natural resources:

Global Resource Bank, belonging to all mankind,
http://www.grb.net
owns the natural resources outside national jurisdiction,
i.e. primarily in the oceans.

The electronic global GRB credit based on and measuring
the value of these natural resources replaces the
present destructive currencies based on the gross
national product including all kinds of activities such as
over-consumption, polution, transportation, 

[CTRL] Millennium: A Galactic view?

1999-12-30 Thread DIG alfred webre

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From earthprophecy-list:

13´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°`13´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°`13´°*ø,¸¸,ø*``13´°*`ø,¸¸,ø*°`13
snip
Foreword:

While most of the planet celebrates the 'millennium,'
those who track the thirteen-Moon Calendar know
that synchronistically, 'January 2000' actually occurs
during this year of 7 Wizard, a cycle which asks us to
receive and channel the mystic powers of timelessness
in order to create a new resonance - a new inspiration!
Much is unknown as humanity travels through time
together, but this year we have the opportunity to restore
the sacred enchantment of our earthly garden through
keen awareness of vibrations and a willingness to open
and explore our sacred channels.  Alignment with the
Natural TIme Calendar helps us to accomplish collective
healing while we release the old and welcome inspiration
of replenished cosmic life-force.  It is now time for the
Wizards to step forward!

~Dreamspell Calendar~

'I removed my wristwatch and had all
the time in the world.'

I am another you - in lakech.
You are another I - infinity in the flesh.
We synchronize collectively
   heaven and earth in harmony.
We are the beauty of creator
   expressing love through time
   the art of nature formed by mind.

There is no separation between us now.
All spokes of the wheel together
   make the whole.
We are one.
There is no other.
The rainbow is made of every color.
The eternal tree of life
   flowers from the one Heart.
~
Time is a voyage exploring realms of
Simultaneous synchronistic manifestations
Of the one eternal art
Which nurtures and sustains
The Heart of all beings
Celebrating flight
Of the ever-spinning wheel.
~~~
May you understand that by going within,
Through the powers of light and sound and vibration
You may awaken the
Temple
Which you are.

Those musics which sweetly resonate with your heart,
Daily bathe in them.
Do let that Song of Purity sing forth.
Allow the creativity of your soul to sing
The notes of Celestial Dance and Song.
Let it be known that your songs,
Each and every one of you,
Are precious unto Creator.
Indeed, that which sings is Voice coming from the Void -
A new created Being - flowing through the levels of yourself.
Be they Particles or Atoms,
Be they Molecules or Cells,
Be they Tissues or Organs,
All are strings on the same violin.

Hunab Ku, Hunab Ku
TIme is the center we all pass through
Hunab Ku, Hunab Ku
Time is me and time is you
Hunab Ku, Hunab Ku
We are all the center that time passes through
The stars you see are songs in my hair
The planets are jewels strung on bracelets of air
In the center of time there is a roof that grows
Becoming through time twenty fingers and toes
Hunab Ku, Hunab Ku
Time is now for me and you.

The sacred architect of time is called Hunab Ku by the Maya,
The One Giver of Movement and Measure.
As the center of the galaxy, Hunab Ku is the universal dynamism -
That which stimulates and motivates life in its total manifestation
As spirit and matter.
Hunab Ku weaves vast patterns of harmony -
Mathematical perfection that reflects the innate beauty of existence.
This central galactic core transmits two hundred and sixty distinct
Radiant energies to our Earth through the lens of our sun,
While simultaneously pulsing the same energy throughout the galaxy,
Thereby establishing the universal law of time (13:20 time)
Which unifies our planet with all other galactic movement.
The 13:20 cycles offer us endless opportunities to align with
The waves of time as articulated by the patterns of Hunab Ku.

The universal law of time
Making the unconscious conscious
The human is conscious rhythm
With the earth, with the galaxy
...Life as the art of the now
...The now as the art of life.

It is our responsibility
To change our perceptions
So our world becomes one where
We are continually aware of
The inherent Divinity that is always moving
And expressing through all things.
-- Raoult Bertrand

Learning is movement from moment to moment.
-- J. Krishnamurti

What lies behind us and what lies before us are
tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Radial TIme = Synchronic Order
by Physicist Mark Cummings

Toward the end of his life Einstein stated:  'I have become
unequivocally convinced that time as we conventionally
understand it is an illusion; however a persistent one.'

Time is not a quantity that can be adequately described
using the geometry of 3-Dimensional space.  In fact, time
in the fullness of its reality is primarily mental and
experiential and not a quantity at all.  Rather, time is a
qualitative function of consciousness, it is the primary
ordering principal of mind.  The order 

[CTRL] Millennium: 2001

1999-12-30 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Headline:  Save the millennium party hats for next year
Byline:  Laurent Belsie , Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
Date: 12/30/1999

(ST. LOUIS)
Sorry to be a poop, but this isn't the dawn of a new millennium. It's not
the beginning of a new century or anybody's fin de siecle. When the clock
ticks past midnight on Friday, you will still find yourself confined to the
20th century.

Deep down most people know this. But there's so much hype suggesting
otherwise that it's easy to go Y2Krazy. The populace can't escape the daily
bombardment of millennial news, millennial celebrations (London is the
"millennial city"), millennial perfume - even millennial camping equipment
and a Web site to nominate a millennial cat.

But don't despair. A band of number-crunching naysayers is pricking the
millennial bubble with letter-writing campaigns and exposing it for what it
is: hype without history. A few people are actually listening.

"I just want to educate people about it," says Jim Bergevin, general
manager of a Slocum's Bowl-O-Drome in Ewing, N.J., and founder of the Real
Millennium Group (www.realmillenniumgroup.com).

"They're creating their own history, and they don't have the right to do
it," adds Michael Bucella, a 2001 holdout in Lima, Pa., who has written 150
letters to President Clinton, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and many
others trying to set the record straight.

No less than Arthur C. Clarke, the famous science-fiction author, has
weighed in on the side of Y2K+1. Of course, you might suspect the author of
"2001: A Space Odyssey" to be a little prejudiced. But his math seems
irrefutable. Since a millennium covers 1,000 years and the first "year of
our Lord" started with year 1, the last year of the first millennium had to
be 1000; the last year of the second, 2000. The same logic applies to
centuries: Dec. 31, 2000, marks end of the 20th century.

Even officialdom agrees, if it would just stop waffling. For example, you'd
think the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) would get
it right. After all, it runs an official atomic clock that doesn't miss a
second in 6 million years.

"It probably should be Jan. 1, 2001, because historically there's no year
zero," says NIST spokesman Michael Newman. But "there's no one that
mandates that [the millennium] ends on a certain date If you want
advice from NIST: Have a party now and a party then."

The US Naval Observatory, which keeps the nation's master clock, also backs
1/1/01 on paper. But on Friday, it will host a party to celebrate the
beginning of what it calls the "Millennial Year 2000."

Confused? Don't ask the scholarly Millennium Institute in Arlington, Va.,
for help. It offers three answers to the question: 1/1/01, 1/1/00, and
"Now!" ("Whatever date you pick to celebrate, consider that we are already
in a "Millennial Moment.")

So if your family has trouble picking its "Millennial Moment," don't
despair. Families bickered about the centennial moment in 1900, 1800, and
indeed, all the way back to 1300. Before that, so few people used this
calendar it hardly made any difference. (Bit of trivia: No one cared a hoot
about when this millennium began because almost no one knew it was
happening.)

Today's 2001 holdouts realize they face an uphill battle. "A lot of people
say: 'Why are you getting so excited? It's not important anyway.' I think
it is important," says Hilliard Lubin, a date-stickler in Camden, Maine.
"Think of the number of kids who are walking around thinking it's the new
millennium!"

"If you don't know when you are, how do you expect to know who you are?"
adds Mr. Bucella. For this New Year's Eve, "I tell everybody I'm going to
watch a Peter Sellars movie called 'Being There.' I'm not going to read a
newspaper because I know I'd be too upset."

Alan Dechert, founder of the Go2zero Committee (www.go2zero.com), wants to
start a new calendar and name 2000 "Year Zero" of the "New Era." The
Christian Right has criticized him for "zeroing out" Christ, but he claims
zero would merely level the playing field for other religions. It would
also defuse the coming brouhaha 100 years from now because Year 100 would
indeed mark a new century.

"It seems like the calendar has always been this way," he says. But come
Jan. 1, "I'm going to write 'Year Zero' on my checks."


To read this story online

http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/12/30/fp2s2-csm.shtml

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Re: [CTRL] When there *IS* no martial law/NWO/UN Y2K take over

1999-12-30 Thread Dano

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You mean to say you haven't heard?
'Sources' say "the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA" takeover has been called off.

However I suspect this has no bearing on computer failures, and,
despite the fact that the "Party Line" has clearly been
DENY DENY DENY right to the end, the final outcome of the y2k
computer snafu, has yet to be resolved.


True Patriot wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 --Original Message--
 From: John Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: True Patriot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  But what if they are right

 A completely valid question. Turnabout is fair play.
 If they are right, then you'll never hear an apology from me. Why? Because
 if these wack jobs *ARE* right, the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA whatever will 1) shut
 down e-mail 2) throw me into a "UN concentration camp" 3) kill me or 4) a
 combination of 1-3. In any event, apologies will be out of the question.
 HOWEVER, when it does NOT happen, the e-mails will be up, no one will be in
 "UN concentration camps" and no one will be killed by the NWO or whatever.
 So, THEY have no excuse to not admit they were WRONG.

 __

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[CTRL] What is Fabian Socialism?

1999-12-30 Thread Bard

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"Fabianism is the British equivalent of German state-socialism."
--
The rapist in our WH is supported by the advocates of state-Socialism:
unions bosses,
femmes,
90 percent of the ignorant blacks,
and other people of color,
retirees, all colors,
homosexuals; practically 100 percent of these,
welfare recipients,
corporate porkers;  recipients of subsidies,
jews;  to protect the stream of foreign aid
to Israel,
the corrupt public school unions,
dupes in the media;  broadcast, TV, and print,
government employees,
wimps;  Fathers who were once Noble seduced by
the power-hungry Mother and together raised their
dysfunctional offspring which has caused 'all'
the night-marish social problems for which the
Socialists (Liberals) now suck the blood
of the relative moral middle class
to attempt to fix the problem.

(who did I leave out?)

Just remember that it is the taxes of the
working class which go to pay
for the benefits/subsidies of the parasites.

This is the coalition that we
constitutionals are up against.

In the past these groups consistently voted
for the Democratic 'wing' of
The Peoples National Socialist Democratic Republican Party.
Today, some, or portions, will nest under the Republican 'wing'.
Makes no difference where they nest, because
both wings belong to the same bird of prey.

Bard
--

Socialism's crisis today is a crisis in the MEANING of socialism. For
the first time in the history of the world, very likely a majority of
its people label themselves
"socialist" in one sense or another; but there has never been a time
when the label was less informative. The nearest thing to a common
content of the various
"socialisms" is a negative: anti-capitalism. On the positive side, the
range of conflicting and incompatible ideas that call themselves
socialist is wider than the spread of
ideas within the bourgeois world.

Even anti-capitalism holds less and less as a common factor. In one part
of the spectrum, a number of social democratic parties have virtually
eliminated any
specifically socialist demands from their programs, promising to
maintain private enterprise wherever possible. The most prominent
example is the German
social-democracy. ("As an idea, a philosophy, and a social movement,
socialism in Germany is no longer represented by a political party,"
sums up D.A. Chalmers'
recent book THE SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF GERMANY.) These parties have
defined socialism out of existence, but the tendency which they have
formalized is that of the ENTIRE reformist social democracy. In what
sense are these parties still "socialist"?

In another part of the world picture, there are the Communist states,
whose claim to being "socialist" is based on a negative: the abolition
of the capitalist
private-profit system, and the fact that the class which rules does not
consist of private owners of property. On the positive side, however,
the socio-economic
system which has replaced capitalism there would not be recognizable to
Karl Marx. The state owns the means of production -- but who "owns" the
state? Certainly
not the mass of workers, who are exploited, unfree, and alienated from
all levers of social and political control. A new class rules, the
bureaucratic bosses; it rules
over a collectivist system -- a bureaucratic collectivism. Unless
statification is mechanically equated with "socialism," in what sense
are these societies "socialist"?

These two self-styled socialisms are very different, but they have more
in common than they think. The social democracy has typically dreamed of
"socializing"
capitalism from above. Its principle has always been that increased
state intervention in society and economy is PER SE socialistic. It
bears a fatal family resemblance
to the Stalinist conception of imposing something called socialism from
the top down, and of equating statification with socialism. Both have
their roots in the
ambiguous history of the socialist idea.

Back to the roots: the following pages propose to investigate the
meaning of socialism historically, in a new way. There have always been
different "kinds of
socialism," and they have customarily been divided into reformist or
revolutionary, peaceful or violent, democratic or authoritarian, etc.
These divisions exist, but the
underlying division is something else. Throughout the history of
socialist movements and ideas, the fundamental divide is between
SOCIALISM-FROM-ABOVE
and SOCIALISM-FROM-BELOW.

What unites the many different forms of Socialism-from-Above is the
conception that socialism (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) must be
HANDED DOWN to the
grateful masses in one form or another, by a ruling elite which is not
subject to their control in fact. The heart of Socialism-from-Below is
its view that socialism can
be realized only through the self-emancipation of activized masses in
motion, reaching out for 

Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-30 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 12/29/99 10:49:34 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thank you for your words of support and the big smile I got when I read
 them. 

No prob babe!!!
Glad to make you smile...keep up the good work!
Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-30 Thread William Shannon

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 You are BOTH sexist pigs! 

Jeez Pennie!!! Was just having a bit of fun...and anyway Maggie didn't
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[CTRL] CIA: New Books and Studies (fwd from Ralph McGehee

1999-12-30 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
From:  Ralph McGehee
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 1:08 PM
Subject: New Books and Studies


 STUDIES

INSIDE U.S. COUNTERINSURGENCY: A SOLDIER SPEAKS.  In this study
Stan Goff relates his history in the U.S. military for two decades,
much of the time with Special Forces training Third World armies.
His first-person account of these counterinsurgency projects comes
as policy makers in Washington press for major increases in military
aid to Colombia's government in its war with leftist guerrillas.
A higly evocative description of counterinsurgency operations
in the Third World. http://www.consortiumnews.com/122299a.html
Consortium News 12/28/99.


 BOOKS

RAIDERS OF THE CHINA COAST: CIA COVERT OPERATIONS DURING THE KOREAN WAR.
ISBN: 1557503885  Author: HOLOBER, FRANK, 1924-  Binding: Cloth
Imprint: NAVAL INST PRESS   Published: 1999
Series Statement: NAVAL INSTITUTE SPECIAL WARFARE SERIES.
Bib Notes: AUTHOR WAS A CIA FAR EAST SPECIALIST, 1947-1971.

Author: CONBOY, KENNETH J.
Title: FEET TO THE FIRE: CIA COVERT OPERATIONS IN INDONESIA, 1957-1958.
Imprint: NAVAL INST PRESS   Published: 1999   Pagination: 218 P.
Place of Publication: ANNAPOLIS
Series: NAVAL INSTITUTE SPECIAL WARFARE SERIES. US Price: $28.95

Author: SAUNDERS, FRANCES STONOR.
Title: WHO PAID THE PIPER?: THE CIA AND THE CULTURAL COLDWAR.
Imprint: GRANTA   Published: 1999   Pagination: 509 P.
Place of Publication: LONDON
US Price: $33.85   UK Price: 20.00

Editor: Craig Eisendrath - A former Foreign Service Officer.
Title: NATIONAL INSECURITY: U.S. INTELLIGENCE AFTER THE COLD WAR.
A Foreword by Senator Tom Harkin says: "The distinguished contributors
to this book present a wide range of perspectives from which to assess
our intelligence system. Their views break new ground and demand the
attention of the White House and the lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.
This book should be required reading by all congressional committees
concerned with intelligence policy, surveillance, and appropriations,
and by all Americans." A project of the Center for International Policy.
Ordering Info: Temple University Press, 1601 N. Broad Street, USB 305,
Philadelphia, PA 19122-1128  Price Cloth $34.50

Ralph McGehee
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Re: [CTRL] When there *IS* no martial law/NWO/UN Y2K take over

1999-12-30 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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  There are going to be issues, whether they're catastrophic or not is
another issue all together.  It'll be interesting though, as the day goes by
tomorrow, to watch the other countries and see how they do through it all.
Sure this company says that and that company says this, but do you really
think any company is going to come out and say "yeah we're having Y2K
problems...?" Heck no, they'll lose money through investors, customers, etc,
and that's even before the impact of the Y2K event itself.  When EVERYTHING
has to be compliant all at once, I don't believe it's going to be without
problems.


Jamie

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] When there *IS* no martial law/NWO/UN Y2K take over


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You mean to say you haven't heard?
'Sources' say "the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA" takeover has been called off.

However I suspect this has no bearing on computer failures, and,
despite the fact that the "Party Line" has clearly been
DENY DENY DENY right to the end, the final outcome of the y2k
computer snafu, has yet to be resolved.


True Patriot wrote:

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 --Original Message--
 From: John Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: True Patriot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  But what if they are right

 A completely valid question. Turnabout is fair play.
 If they are right, then you'll never hear an apology from me. Why? Because
 if these wack jobs *ARE* right, the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA whatever will 1) shut
 down e-mail 2) throw me into a "UN concentration camp" 3) kill me or 4) a
 combination of 1-3. In any event, apologies will be out of the question.
 HOWEVER, when it does NOT happen, the e-mails will be up, no one will be
in
 "UN concentration camps" and no one will be killed by the NWO or whatever.
 So, THEY have no excuse to not admit they were WRONG.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thu.2 - y2k minus 2

1999-12-30 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991230b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No time warps were traversed to produce this bulletin. All in real-time.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Are you bitter about love? http://www.bitterslut.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Another Cylinder Seen in Florida. TAMPA - The witness was driving south on
  Highway 75 and saw this cylinder shaped object in very pale muted blue and
  green cast sky. It stood out as a huge cylindrical upright object. It app-
  eared as if the sky was a fabric and that this object was coming through a
  slit in the fabric. http://caus.org/mu123099.htm  http://filersfiles.com/

# Face to Face ET Contact on a Mountain Road: http://caus.org/pc122999.htm
# Brilliant Missouri Hovering Lights: http://www.caus.org/mu122999.htm

: Have you encountered any cylinders, lights or ETs lately? Did you report
your encounter? Were you forced to? Does your alien implant compel truth?
Is reality a fabric that is easily torn? Have you slit your reality lately?

@ The Mind of the Blue Alien: http://www.caus.org/mc123099.htm
@ Thoughts on abduction phenomena: http://caus.org/mc122999.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Thanks to scholars who got it wrong, we're able to booze and feast for
  Christmas on December 25th. Might have been mid-March. Happy Solstice!
  www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000166941319210pg=/et/99/12/23/ecfsci23.html

# EXPERTS IN NOT KNOWING: Pretending to know is a ticket to nowhere. Knowing
  you don't know is a good, creative, freeing thing. Teaching the creativity
  in knowing you don't know: http://www.ft.com/hippocampus/q3131b2.htm

: Is everything you know right, wrong, indeterminate? Is creativity better /
more important than accuracy, knowledge, reality? Is reality too limiting
for your creative spirit? Do you spit on reality? Does reality spit back??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Parents stunned by Pokemon toy's foul language. The Pikachu creature says
  his name when you touch his voice control. But Jim  Pam Beekman found
  that touching the circuits at a rapid rate causes the cute toy to say a
  phrase that includes "fuck." Says Pam, a youth specialist: "I'd like to
  see it pulled off the shelves, or at least have a warning posted on the
  box. You shouldn't have to worry about what a toy is going to say." Yes,
  you should: http://www.detnews.com/1999/metro/9912/29/12290106.htm

: Do you check your toys for profanity? Do you curse if/when they don't?

@ Want free electricity? If you are a sucker looking for an imaginary
  product, these guys will sell it to you. http://www.ucsofa.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Y2K-A-Rama:

# Y2K Will Go On and On. Even if New Year's arrives without a hitch,
  global Y2K watchers won't be breathing easily. The full impact of Y2K
  computer glitches won't be clear until mid to late January, they say.
  http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,33345,00.html?tw=wn19991230

: Since some business programs only run at the end of a month, a quarter, or
a fiscal or calendar year, will Y2K glitches at the end of January, March,
June or December 2000 be the final destroyers of global commercial life??

# DOOMSDAYISM: British Museum looks at a millennium of apocalypse and art:
  http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/arts/apocalypse-london.html
# KIRIBATI FIRST NATION TO SEE SUNRISE IN 2000 - will drown when icecaps
  melt: http://cnn.com/1999/ASIANOW/australasia/12/29/kiribati.millenium/
# MOST U.S. CITIES WILL PLAY IT SAFE ON 2000 - Fresno worried after theft
  of explosives: http://cnn.com/1999/US/12/29/new.years.fears.02/index.html

# Giza Pyramids Y2K Show Live On The Net! http://www.projectduat.com
# FERRETING OUT: A millennial eve concert in England is saved by trained
  ferrets who pulled electrical cables through tunnels beneath the stage.
  Mush! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_582000/582123.stm

: Should we all train ferrets to rescue us from our bloated humanness? How?
Will millennial festivities collapse due to a shortage of trained ferrets??

# CLINTON'S DUAL NEW YEAR'S EVE ROLE: HOST, Y2K OVERSEER - and NWO pawn:
  http://cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/29/whitehouse.y2k/index.html
# THINK PC SECURITY FOR Y2K - rollover will see a surge in viruses and
  malicious hacks: http://cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/29/y2k.protect/
# Y2K: MORE THAN JUST A COMPUTER BUG IN SOUTHEAST ASIA - will computer
  chaos strike? http://cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/29/y2k.confusion.ap/
# When Is The Beginning Of The Millennium? Jan 1, 2000 or, 2001? Who is
  correct? Who gives a rat's ass? http://www.sightings.com/ufo6/2001.htm

@ If^H^Hwhen the Y2K bug doesn't fuck with your computer, you may feel let
  down somehow, and find yourself craving a terribly invasive, frightening
  desktop 

[CTRL] More on the Harrison attack

1999-12-30 Thread Tenorlove

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According to MSNBC, Harrison's estate is one of the most heavily
fortified and guarded locations in Britain, "Fort Knox" as one reporter
described it. The suspect, they haven't given his name yet, was
described as having a "Beatles obsession" and when they showed his
picture, I did a double-take: he could be Timothy McVeigh's kid
brother! The whole thing REEKS of a set-up job. Is it a coincidence
that AMC is showing The Manchurian Candidate tonight? And what did
George Harrison do to tick off Princess Tony and Slick Willie? Looks
like the big boys slipped on this one...



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[CTRL] Got this in my email

1999-12-30 Thread Tenorlove

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I didn't get this from BARD, unless he is one of my relatives in
disguisesnort But it reads like something he would send!


Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over
500 employees with the following statistics:

*29 have been accused of spousal abuse
*7 have been arrested for fraud
*19 have been accused of writing bad checks
*117 have bankrupted at least two businesses
*3 have been arrested for assault
*71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
*14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

*8 have been arrested for shoplifting
*21 are current defendants in lawsuits
*In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving



Can you guess which organization this is? Give up?





It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group
that
perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws signed to
keep
the rest of us in line.
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Re: [CTRL] Got this in my email

1999-12-30 Thread Tatman, Robert

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And *these* are the turkeys who impeached Clinton? Talk about the pot and
the kettle... Or perhaps the mote in your brother's eye and the beam in your
own would be more appropriate, given the GOP's current liking for biblical
morality. Has anyone suggested to them that they are in danger of being
hoist by their own collective petard?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tenorlove [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:59 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Got this in my email

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 I didn't get this from BARD, unless he is one of my relatives in
 disguisesnort But it reads like something he would send!
 

 Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over
 500 employees with the following statistics:

 *29 have been accused of spousal abuse
 *7 have been arrested for fraud
 *19 have been accused of writing bad checks
 *117 have bankrupted at least two businesses
 *3 have been arrested for assault
 *71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
 *14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

 *8 have been arrested for shoplifting
 *21 are current defendants in lawsuits
 *In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving



 Can you guess which organization this is? Give up?





 It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group
 that
 perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws signed to
 keep
 the rest of us in line.


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[CTRL] Monsanto article

1999-12-30 Thread earthman

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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 6:32 AM Subject: Monsanto article
Friends, I realize this is a bit dated now, but news travels slow to Africa
and I want to ensure that you do see it.  If you have already seen it just
delete it.

For those of you who may not know it, Monsanto represents, at least for me,
the worst of the worst when it comes to rapacious, unethical business
practices, especially the way it seeks to hold individual farmers at ransom
so that they are not unable to store seed for the next planting season, but
rather must purchase new seed.  I am elated that it has been humbled I wish
all the farming folk in my home southern Ontario knew the real story about
Monsanto whose other products (pesticides, for example) are used
ubiquitously and are ruining the environment.  The price of dependence on
them will be paid very dearly in the future when the bitter truth does
become known.  Cheers, X
- The Guardian (London)
Saturday October 9, 1999 How Monsanto's mind was changed In spring the US
giant was sure its GM technology was unbeatable.  Then one man convinced the
organisation that the game was up GM food: special report By John Vidal On
July 14 a group of powerful Americans met secretly at the Willard hotel near
the White House to listen to an English academic who had spent much of his
life working in developing countries with peasant farmers.

The nine members of the Monsanto board of directors have serious political
clout.  Apart from Robert Shapiro, the visionary head of the $12bn a year
corporation, and senior bankers and Harvard academics, it includes Mickey
Kantor, former head of the US commerce department, and the former heads of
the US social security department and the US environmental protection
agency.

They were there to meet Gordon Conway, the president of the Rockefeller
Foundation in New York, whose remit is to help the world's disadvantaged.
Mr Shapiro, who vows he is working for the world's poor with GM foods, had
invited Professor Conway, formerly vice chancellor of Sussex university, to
address the board as part of the corporation's commitment to consult more
widely following the GM furore in Europe sparked by the so-called Terminator
gene.

Because Rockefeller had put more than $100m into public research into GM
crops, Prof Conway was thought to be an ally; he was expected to make a
friendly, gentlemanly speech, perhaps with some mild advice, that would go
no further than the four walls of the Willard.

But privately, Prof Conway, along with increasing sections of the US
intellectual community, deplored the corporation's style and global
strategy.

Meltdown of confidence In Europe it had alienated millions, he believed, and
was threatening a trade war and long term damage to the prospects of the
poor.  The corporation with a reputation for arrogance and secrecy was seen
to be responsible for a meltdown of confidence in science and big business
and a backlash against US agriculture.  Moreover, Monsanto's effective
ownership of Terminator technology would allow the corporation, the second
biggest agribusiness in the world, to develop plants that bore sterile
seeds - a move that had angered farmers in the developing world.

Prof Conway had given Monsanto little warning, even when he had visited the
company's St Louis HQ a few weeks earlier.  But at the Willard he went
straight for Monsanto's guts.  For more than a hour, the professor lectured
the board: change tack, or bring the wrath of the scientific, political, and
global community down on them.

"Admit that you do not have all the answers," he said.  "Commit yourselves
to prompt, full, and honest sharing of data.  This is not the time for a new
PR offensive but for a new relationship based on honesty, full disclosure,
and a very uncertain shared future."

Prof Conway argued that the possible adverse consequences for billions of
developing world farmers outweighed any social benefits in protecting the
Terminator technology.  What the Terminator gene did, he said, was
effectively kill the process that let farmers sow their own seeds, and
subsistence farmers were too poor to buy new seed.  The possible
consequences were terrible.  In short, he told them, Monsanto was socially
irresponsible and the public was alienated.  He urged a "global public
dialogue" that would air all sides of the issues.

Terse statement The board were shocked.  But they did not suspect that Prof
Conway had warned the press what he intended to say.  Within hours
Rockefeller had issued seven challenges to Monsanto.  "It was like a boil
had been lanced, a milestone,"  said one person who was party to the talks.
"Someone in authority had for the first time held this monolithic
corporation up to public accountability." Monsanto was furious, andbissuedba
terse statement:
"The meeting was frank and productive.  We will continue to reach out to
people like Prof Conway to discuss the 

[CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread earthman

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Just some information for those who care.

KFC has been a part of our American traditions for many years. Many people,
day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what they
are eating? During a recent study of KFC done at the University of New
Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts. First of all, has anybody
noticed that just recently, the company has changed their name?
Kentucky Fried Chicken has become KFC. Does anybody know why? We thought the
real reason was because of the "FRIED" food issue. It's not. The reason why
they call it KFC is because they can not use the word chicken anymore. Why?
KFC does not use real chickens. They actually use genetically manipulated
organisms. These so called "chickens" are kept alive by tubes inserted into
their bodies to pump blood and nutrients throughout their structure. They
have no beaks, no feathers, and no feet. Their bone structure is
dramatically shrunk to get more meat out of them. This is great for KFC
because they do not have to pay so much for their production costs. There is
no more plucking of the feathers or the removal of the beaks and feet. The
government has told them to change all of their menus so they do not say
chicken anywhere. If you look closely you will notice this. Listen to their
commercials, I guarantee you will not see or hear the word chicken. I find
this matter to be very disturbing. I hope people will start to realize this
and let other people know. Please forward this message to as many people as
you can. Together we make KFC start using real chicken again.


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[CTRL] Calif. Initiative Against SPAM

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 http://www.currents.net/newstoday/99/12/23/news7.html


 Calif. Initiative Against SPAM

 By Sherman Fridman, Newsbytes.
 December 23, 1999

 Mike Johnson is tired of receiving unsolicited e-mail and
 telemarketing calls, and he wants to do something about it.
 He also has some clout behind him as the executive director
 of the Los Angeles, Calif.-based consumer watchdog group,
 Voter Revolt.

 According to a report published Tuesday in the San Francisco
 Examiner, Johnson was so angry about unsolicited sales
 pitches - especially since his fiancée recently received one
 that he deemed to be pornographic - that Johnson wrote a
 proposed ballot initiative to have the businesses that use
 unsolicited e-mail and telephone marketing calls, "Stop
 bugging us."

 Johnson is getting ready to gather the signatures of
 California registered voters on petitions in order to qualify
 his initiative for an appearance on the November 2000 ballot.

 In an interview with Newsbytes, Johnson said that his group
 needed 420,000 signatures to qualify the initiative and that
 he expects to begin the process of obtaining them around the
 beginning of February.

 Johnson acknowledges that part of his motivation in bringing
 the initiative was the failure, last June, of the California
 legislature to pass what he considered a modest proposal that
 would have allowed Californians to enter their names on a
 statewide don't-call-me list.

 While it was reported that the don't-call-me legislation
 failed in large part due to a procedural error, a highly
 placed legislative staff member told Newsbytes that the bill
 also required people to pay a fee to get on and off the list,
 a provision that many legislators did not favor.

 Johnson is quoted as saying that he believes a person's home
 "ought to be a sanctuary," and that unsolicited calls and
 e-mail should not be permitted to enter into it.

 Under federal law, consumers can bar marketers from
 contacting them by e-mail and telephone only through
 contacting individual advertisers and demanding to be placed
 on their do-not-contact lists.

 In contrast, Johnson claims that the Voter Revolt initiative
 would assume that consumers do not want unsolicited calls and
 e-mails and would forbid marketers from contacting anyone who
 had not affirmatively opted to receive such communications.
 This is known as an opt-in plan, as opposed to the federal
 system, which is known as opt-out.

 Currently, California does have legislation on the books
 which bans junk e-mail.  The legislation, drafted by then
 Assemblywoman, now State Senator, Debra Bowen
 (D-Torrance/Marina del Ray) and signed into law in 1998, was
 specifically aimed at slowing the flood of unsolicited junk
 e-mail known as "spam."

 Senator Bowen's office told Newsbytes that the bill signed
 into law by former governor Pete Wilson required people
 sending unsolicited advertising e-mail to provide recipients
 with a toll-free phone number or a valid e-mail address so
 the recipient can ask to stop receiving junk e-mail.

 The California law also requires all spam to carry an "ADV"
 label in the subject line, or  "ADV:ADLT" for adult-oriented
 material.

 However, as a senior California legislative staff member told
 Newsbytes, the problem with consumers receiving protection
 under the bill is that the legislation only applies to e-mail
 sent from within the State of California, to Californians,
 and some county District Attorneys may be reluctant to
 enforce the law due to a heavy case load of more serious
 offenses.

 A major difference between the Bowen law and the initiative
 being proposed by Johnson is that Johnson's proposal shifts
 the burden of action to the sender, away from the consumer.

 However, Newsbytes was informed that there is legislative
 concern that the Voter Revolt initiative, if it were to
 become law, would be found to be unconstitutional.

 Newsbytes asked Johnson about the question of
 constitutionality.  Johnson said that he had consulted with a
 couple of law professors who expressed more concern over the
 prohibition against unsolicited telephone calls than the
 provisions directed against unsolicited e-mail.

 Johnson drew an analogy to the federal law against sending
 unsolicited faxes, which has been found to be
 constitutionally proper on the basis that no one should have
 the right to impose a financial cost on another person, and
 receiving a fax imposes a cost, i.e. the fax paper.

 The reason there is a concern about prohibiting telemarketing
 calls is that such calls, while annoying, are essentially
 free to the recipient.  To counter any objection from
 telemarketers, Johnson told Newsbytes that the Voter Revolt
 initiative has a provision whereby persons who wish to
 receive unsolicited advertising calls can register that wish
 with the Public utilities Commission.  This way, Johnson
 feels, telemarketers can have a better, more receptive
 audience, and they should 

[CTRL] Power-lines to deliver microwaves ?!

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

I don't like the sound of this -- if it means they're intending
to send *microwaves* into every living room, bedroom, office,
etc., travelling over the existing 50/60 Hz AC power lines.
If so, this should get more people to invest in solar cells!
--Bill


 New Scientist, 25 December 1999
 http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991225/newsstory6.html

 Net goes magnetic


 IT SOUNDS like a great idea:  using ordinary power lines to
 carry Internet traffic.  But the speed at which power lines
 can carry data has been limited because the transformers in
 substations can mangle the signal.

 Now a Texas company says it has the answer:  instead of
 piggybacking data on the electric current, it uses the
 magnetic field the current generates to guide a microwave
 signal along the outside of the cables.

 Media Fusion of Dallas, Texas, was granted a patent for the
 idea in November.  Inventor William Stewart, the firm's chief
 scientist, says the magnetic field acts as a waveguide.  In
 Stewart's scheme, the signals are generated by a maser, a
 device that produces microwaves in the same way that lasers
 produce light.

 Stewart says the system can transmit many megabytes of
 information per second, compared with about 1 megabit per
 second using electric current as the carrier.  The latter is
 seen as uncompetitive in the face of high-speed phone line
 access (New Scientist, 18 September, p 13).

 In the new system, fibre-optic lines will feed Net data to
 control centres at electrical substations, where it will be
 translated into microwave pulses that are sent to the
 subscriber's power line modem.  The company has made the
 system work in the lab and plans to start large trials in
 the US soon.

 Kurt Kleiner

 © Copyright New Scientist, RBI Limited 1999


~

More info on Media Fusion technology :


http://betanews.efront.com/article.php3?sid=story385f316c29a08

http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,403649,00.html

http://www.mediafusionllc.net/northamerica/main/qanda/index.html

http://www.mediafusionllc.net/northamerica/main/summary/index.html

http://www.mediafusionllc.net/northamerica/main/news/prjune12151999.html




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[CTRL] JESUS WAS JEWISH ?

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 http://www.best.com/~dolphin/yeshua.html


  IT'S TIME FOR ISRAELIS TO LEARN JESUS WAS JEWISH

   [Excerpts from HA'ARETZ newspaper, Thursday, 23 December 1999]
 ---

 Israeli pupils hear about Jesus only once during 12 years of
 schooling, so they know nothing about Christianity, and don't have
 a key to understanding the history and culture of the western
 world. The education system prefers ignorance to being suspected of
 missionary activity.

 Ninth-graders at a high school in Bat Yam were asked last Friday, a
 week before Christmas, what they knew about Jesus. According to the
 high school history teacher who dared ask the question, most knew
 nothing - not even the most basic details: when he was born, where
 he lived and preached, when he died and how.

 They did not know that he was a believing Jew, who was born,
 according to historians in the year 4 BCE (and not in the year 0),
 in Bethlehem, and that his mother's name was Miriam, that is, the
 Virgin Mary.

 Some thought that Mary Magdalene, the prostitute, was the mother of
 Jesus. They did not know of the decision by the Sanhedrin to turn
 him in on the grounds that he pretended to be "the king of the
 Jews," or of his trial before the Roman governor, Pilate. As for
 the Sermon on the Mount, the values he preached, the dispute
 between him and the Pharisees and the Sadducees over the
 interpretation of the law and the concept of the Messiah, and the
 connection between Jesus and the Essene sect - the students knew
 nothing.

 History lecturers believe that this ignorance is not a negligible
 matter. Israeli students who do not know anything at all about the
 figure of Jesus are unable to understand the faith of the
 approximately two billion Christians in the world and they have no
 key to the understanding of the history, music, painting, sculpture
 and architecture of the western world. Moreover, they lack basic
 knowledge of the history of Judaism and society in the land of
 Israel 2000 years ago.

 This ignorance comes as no surprise. According to the official
 curriculum, students in the government education system hear about
 Jesus at best only once during 12 years of schooling - and only in
 passing, at the beginning of their sixth grade history course, in a
 brief chapter on "Jesus and the First Christians" in the history
 text "During the Days of Greece and Rome."

 According to Michael Yaron, the supervisor of history instruction
 at the Education Ministry, Jesus is not studied again in high
 school, because in high school the curriculum concentrates mainly
 on the 19th and 20th centuries, and not everyone is even required
 to study the chapter in the sixth grade, as elementary schools have
 the autonomy to pick and choose in the curriculum.

 In the government-religious system, students learn even less: in
 the seventh grade textbook "From generation to generation" there is
 a brief and laconic treatment of Jesus in the chapter "Sects in
 Judaism." Sarah Weider, the supervisor of history instruction in
 the government-religious educational system, notes that religious
 teachers teach about Jesus with great reservations - for example,
 they do not mention his name explicitly. The reason: "Because it is
 impossible to ignore what Christianity did to the Jews, and
 attribute to the man what was done in his footsteps, even if he was
 not to blame."

 According to history teachers, even on class outings from
 government schools to Jerusalem and the Galilee, Christian holy
 sites are totally ignored. Weider says about religious school
 trips, "They don't go into Catholic churches, because there is a
 halacha that prohibits this, but they do look at them from the
 outside."

 Now and then, some teachers, like the history teacher in Bat Yam,
 find it important to deviate from the regular program of studies
 and teach their students something about the traditions and beliefs
 of others. But they, according to their own testimony, are an
 infinitesimal minority.

 History lecturers at the universities in Israel say that high
 school graduates arrive at university "totally ignorant" about
 everything concerning Jesus and Christianity. "They know nothing at
 all," says Dr. Aviad Kleinberg of Tel Aviv University, the author
 of the book "Christianity from its Beginnings to the Reformation,"
 a ministry of defense publication for the University of the
 Airwaves.

 "I encounter a great deal of rejection, hostility and ignorance
 with respect to Jesus and Christianity in general. They live two
 meters away from places that many Christians in the world only
 dream of visiting, and they know nothing about them."

 According to Kleinberg, this is the result of "neglect and
 conservatism in the educational system, which must be changed. The
 Israeli educational system must be less concentrated within itself
 and more open to the study of the other. It would 

[CTRL] Secret of Hirohito's hidden billions

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.best.com/~dolphin/seagrave.html

 Subj: South China Morning Post
 Date: 11/2/99 10:32:18 AM PST
 Published on Sunday, October 31, 1999
 SUNDAY AGENDA


 Secret of Hirohito's hidden billions

 CHARMAINE CHAN

 It contains all the elements of a political thriller: family
 squabbles, power struggles, duplicity and murder. It involves a
 huge pile of treasure - bullion worth billions stashed all over
 the world - and secret operations to retrieve it. It promises a
 sequel. And best of all, it is all true.

 So say Sterling and Peggy Seagrave, in their latest work, The
 Yamato Dynasty (Bantam Press, $150), an incisive biography of
 five generations of Japan's imperial family since the Meiji
 Restoration in 1868. Their most controversial claims, however,
 centre on the country's longest-reigning emperor, Hirohito, who
 died in 1989.

 The book claims to reveal for the first time the imperial
 family's alleged role in Japan's wartime looting of Asia - a
 covert operation named Golden Lily that was headed by Prince
 Chichibu, a brother of Hirohito, and involved the military, the
 secret service, underworld figures and businessmen.

 It aims to expose the extent to which Washington and Tokyo
 supposedly collaborated to keep this secret and deceive the
 world into thinking the fighting had left Japan too poor to
 compensate its victims meaningfully.

 It dashes once and for all assumptions that the imperial family
 was a fossilised symbol removed from day-to-day decisions
 during the war.

 It also says that the people involved in Hirohito's exoneration
 of war crimes - including General Douglas MacArthur and former
 US president Herbert Hoover - walked away from the occupation
 with huge amounts of gold.

 "I think this is going to turn out to be one of the great
 scandals of the century," Sterling Seagrave says
 matter-of-factly.

 In a phone interview from his home in Europe, the former
 journalist explains how he and his wife first stumbled across
 information that would lead them on an 18-year investigation of
 the Japanese imperial family. He tiptoes around exactly where
 he lives because of possible retaliation over the latest
 revelations.

 "In the course of working on a book about the Marcoses [The
 Marcos Dynasty] we discovered how much of the Japanese war loot
 Ferdinand Marcos had recovered," Seagrave says. "At the time we
 didn't really understand too well how the looting operation had
 occurred during World War II. We assumed there was
 collaboration between the Japanese army and the Japanese
 underworld. It was only after we published the book that we
 realised there were a number of imperial princes involved in
 the looting."

 While Japan's war aggression is well documented, much less has
 been written about its plundering and the people killed to keep
 hideaways secret. According to the Seagraves, many POWs
 prisoners of war and Japanese soldiers were buried alive in
 vaults they dug for the booty, which included gold bullion,
 gems and artefacts. Others died when the ships they were on
 were scuttled so the treasure could be hidden at sea.

 That it has taken so long for the imperial family to be
 implicated is not surprising because, according to Seagrave,
 "nobody had looked beyond Hirohito himself".

 Seagrave says nobody had done a study of Prince Chichibu, who
 until now was believed to have sat out the war recuperating
 from tuberculosis in an estate near Mount Fuji, or Prince
 Takeda, a cousin of Hirohito who, Seagrave says, oversaw the
 collection and concealment of Japan's war loot, or any of the
 others, like Prince Asaka, an uncle of Hirohito who commanded
 the rape of Nanking.

 The authors contend that Hirohito appointed Chichibu head of
 Golden Lily (named after one of the emperor's poems) in 1940,
 with Takeda as his deputy. According to their sources -
 participants and other eyewitnesses, as well as Chichibu's
 retinue - the two apparently travelled to China, Hong Kong,
 Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, Malaya, Singapore, Sumatra,
 Java, Borneo and the Philippines, looting treasures and
 supervising their transport to Japan using ships disguised with
 hospital crosses.

 The imperial family's actual role in Golden Lily was never
 apparent for several reasons, Seagrave says. "For example,
 Prince Takeda used a nom de guerre everywhere he worked in Asia
 during the war, so people who came into contact with him knew
 him by different names. This has taken us nearly 20 years to
 figure out," he says.

 But the couple was able to pinpoint Takeda and others by
 putting together information gleaned from various sources.

 "People who described Takeda to us physically knew he was a
 prince, but they didn't know which prince he was and weren't
 quite sure what his relationship was to Hirohito," Seagrave
 says. "It turned out there were actually uncles, cousins and
 brothers all there [involved in the plundering] at the same
 time."

 After the war, the story 

[CTRL] WHAT'S ALL THIS FUSS ABOUT HEMP?

1999-12-30 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/drugs/hemp-marijuana

Copyright (c)  1 9 9 4   by Brian S. Julin



   --

The following persons have contributed to this document at
some point in it's evolution: Laura Kriho
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (original list of questions),
Marc Anderson (fact finding), Paul L. Allen (LaTeX
formatting) ,plus some others who haven't said they want
their name put in.

This material is maintained and written by Brian S. Julin,
with help from several other individuals.  It is copyrighted
material.  The copyright is only there to prevent anyone
from editing or selling this material.  Feel free to
redistribute the material in any form as long as it is
unaltered in content, and no credit or money is taken for
the contents themselves.  Comments, questions, contributions
or ideas should be mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
c/o Brian S. Julin at UMACRC, S.A.O.  Mailbox #2, Student
Union Building, UMASS, 01003

More information on the document is at the end -- wouldn't
want to bore you...   So without further ado:


   --
   C  O  N  T  E  N  T  S
   --

Part1: What's all this fuss about hemp?

1a)  What is hemp?
1b)  What is cannabis?
1c)  Where did the word `marijuana' come from?
2a)  How can hemp be used as a food?
2b)  What are the benefits of hemp compared to other food crops?
2c)  How about soy?
  Is hemp competitive as a world source of protein?
3a)  How can hemp be used for cloth?
3b)  Why is it better than cotton?
4a)  How can hemp be used to make paper?
4b)  Why can't we just keep using trees?
5a)  How can hemp be used as a fuel?
5b)  Why is it better than petroleum?
6a)  How can hemp be used as a medicine?
6b)  What's wrong with all the prescription drugs we have?
7)   What other uses for hemp are there?

Part 2: So why aren't we using hemp, then?

1)   How and why was hemp made illegal?
2)   OK, so what the heck does all this other stuff have to do
  with hemp?
3)   Now wait, just hold on.  You expect me to believe that
  they wouldn't have thought to pass a better law, one that
  banned marijuana and allowed commercial hemp, instead of
  throwing the baby out with the bath water?
4)   Is there a lesson to be learned from all this?

Part 3: Does it?  Doesn't it?  Is it true that?

1)   Doesn't marijuana stay in your fat cells and keep you
  high for months?
2)   But ... isn't today's marijuana much more potent than it
  was in the Sixties?
  (Or, more often ... Marijuana is 10 times more powerful than
  it was in the Sixties!)
3a)  Doesn't Marijuana cause brain damage?
3b)  If it doesn't kill brain cells, how does it get you `high'?
4)   Don't people die from smoking pot?
5)   I forgot, does marijuana cause short-term memory impairment?
6a)  Is marijuana going to make my boyfriend go psycho?
6b)  Don't users of marijuana withdraw from society?
7)   Is it true that marijuana makes you lazy and unmotivated?
8)   Isn't marijuana a gateway drug?
  Doesn't it lead to use of harder drugs?
9a)  I don't want children (minors) to be able to smoke marijuana.
  How can I stop this?
9b)  Won't children be able to steal marijuana plants that
  people are growing?
10a) Hey, don't you know that marijuana drops testosterone
  levels in teenage boys causing [various physical and
  developmental problems]?
10b) Doesn't heavy marijuana use lower the sperm count in males?
10c) I heard marijuana use by teenage girls may impair hormone
  production, menstrual cycles, and fertility.  Is this true?
11)  Go away.
12)  Isn't smoking marijuana worse for you than smoking cigarettes?
13)  Don't children born to pot-smoking mothers suffer from
  ``Fetal Marijuana Syndrome?''
14)  Doesn't marijuana cause a lot of automobile accidents?
15)  Aren't you afraid everyone will get hooked?
16a) Is urine testing for marijuana use as a terms of
  employment a good idea?
  I want to make sure my business is run safely.
16b) Isn't all this worth the trouble, though, in order to
  reduce accident risks and health care costs?
17)  Wouldn't it be best to just lock the users all up?
18)  I heard that there are over 400 chemicals in marijuana...
  Well...?
19)  Doesn't that stuff mess up your immune system and make
  it easier for you catch colds?

Part 4:  Why is it still illegal?

1)   Why is it STILL illegal?:
2)   What can I do to bring some sense into our marijuana laws?
3a)  Where can I get more information?
3b)  Umm, I'm computer illiterate, so that just went way over
  my head.  Are there any good books I could go get instead?
4)   Do you have any advice for people who want to organize
  their own group?

Part 5:  Sources by question number

Part 6:  About the alt.hemp FAQ.


 --
 P  A  R  T O  N  E
 --

  

Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-30 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 -Caveat Lector-

William Shannon wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 12/30/99 1:46:13 AM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You are BOTH sexist pigs! 

 Jeez Pennie!!! Was just having a bit of fun...and anyway Maggie didn't
 mind...so what's the real problem?
 Bill.

Pennie is right darnit! There are too many sexist slobs around here who
are not respectful enough of women and female body parts.

Humph!,
Joshua " Muffmeister " 2

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Re: [CTRL] Calif. Initiative Against SPAM

1999-12-30 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Now *this* is exactly the approach that makes the most sense: require mass
marketers to have a specific, affirmative statement that you want to get
junk mail/faxes/phone calls/e-mail...and prohibit them from sending anything
to anyone from whom they do not have such a statement. In fact, it makes so
much sense that I'm quite sure it will never be enacted; the mass marketers
have too many legislators in their pockets. But it's still something that we
can work toward.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Kingsbury [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:24 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Calif. Initiative Against SPAM

  -Caveat Lector-

  http://www.currents.net/newstoday/99/12/23/news7.html


  Calif. Initiative Against SPAM

  snip

  Under federal law, consumers can bar marketers from
  contacting them by e-mail and telephone only through
  contacting individual advertisers and demanding to be placed
  on their do-not-contact lists.

  In contrast, Johnson claims that the Voter Revolt initiative
  would assume that consumers do not want unsolicited calls and
  e-mails and would forbid marketers from contacting anyone who
  had not affirmatively opted to receive such communications.
  This is known as an opt-in plan, as opposed to the federal
  system, which is known as opt-out.

  snip

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Re: [CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread Kathryn R Smith

 -Caveat Lector-

That's pretty bizarre, but either way the chickens die right?
I wonder if I'm missing something here other than the fact that we are
eating " genetically  manipulated organisms " which doesn't sound all
that appetizing.
 I'm off to look up KFC on the web now. ( and yes, I have wondered...)
 Kathy

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:18:33 +1300 earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  -Caveat Lector-

 Just some information for those who care.

 KFC has been a part of our American traditions for many years. Many
 people,
 day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what
 they
 are eating? During a recent study of KFC done at the University of
 New
 Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts. First of all, has
 anybody
 noticed that just recently, the company has changed their name?
 Kentucky Fried Chicken has become KFC. Does anybody know why? We
 thought the
 real reason was because of the "FRIED" food issue. It's not. The
 reason why
 they call it KFC is because they can not use the word chicken
 anymore. Why?
 KFC does not use real chickens. They actually use genetically
 manipulated
 organisms. These so called "chickens" are kept alive by tubes
 inserted into
 their bodies to pump blood and nutrients throughout their structure.
 They
 have no beaks, no feathers, and no feet. Their bone structure is
 dramatically shrunk to get more meat out of them. This is great for
 KFC
 because they do not have to pay so much for their production costs.
 There is
 no more plucking of the feathers or the removal of the beaks and
 feet. The
 government has told them to change all of their menus so they do not
 say
 chicken anywhere. If you look closely you will notice this. Listen
 to their
 commercials, I guarantee you will not see or hear the word chicken.
 I find
 this matter to be very disturbing. I hope people will start to
 realize this
 and let other people know. Please forward this message to as many
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Re: [CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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http://www.brigaderoad.com/KFC/kfcmenu1.htm

Well... the above link contains the word "chicken".
 Leave it to me to follow this story with all the others on this list...


On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:18:33 +1300 earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  -Caveat Lector-

 Just some information for those who care.

 KFC has been a part of our American traditions for many years. Many
 people,
 day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what
 they
 are eating? During a recent study of KFC done at the University of
 New
 Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts. First of all, has
 anybody
 noticed that just recently, the company has changed their name?
 Kentucky Fried Chicken has become KFC. Does anybody know why? We
 thought the
 real reason was because of the "FRIED" food issue. It's not. The
 reason why
 they call it KFC is because they can not use the word chicken
 anymore. Why?
 KFC does not use real chickens. They actually use genetically
 manipulated
 organisms. These so called "chickens" are kept alive by tubes
 inserted into
 their bodies to pump blood and nutrients throughout their structure.
 They
 have no beaks, no feathers, and no feet. Their bone structure is
 dramatically shrunk to get more meat out of them. This is great for
 KFC
 because they do not have to pay so much for their production costs.
 There is
 no more plucking of the feathers or the removal of the beaks and
 feet. The
 government has told them to change all of their menus so they do not
 say
 chicken anywhere. If you look closely you will notice this. Listen
 to their
 commercials, I guarantee you will not see or hear the word chicken.
 I find
 this matter to be very disturbing. I hope people will start to
 realize this
 and let other people know. Please forward this message to as many
 people as
 you can. Together we make KFC start using real chicken again.


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 Mis Tech, Boston/Hingham
 Boston (617) 626-1295
 Hingham (781) 740-1600 ext.112




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Re: [CTRL] video tapes about abuse

1999-12-30 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Below please find information about video tapes on severe child abuse.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

PS Tapes on trauma, etc. are also sold.

Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list.
This may be triggering for survivors.

Cavalcade Productions
PO Box 2480
Nevada City, CA 95959
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

from http://www.pacific.net/~cavideo/video_frame.htm

Ritual Child Abuse

Videos for Public Awareness:
Children At Risk: Ritual Abuse in America
Case histories document the reality of ritual abuse.
Includes first-hand accounts by children, therapists, parents
and law enforcement personnel. Narrated by Mike Farrell.
#D-224, 57 min.

Significant Others
This video demystifies multiple personality, and clearly identifies the
ritual abuse genesis of many dissociative disorders. Excellent for families
and friends of multiples.
#D-226, 24 min.

Coming Home: Recovery From Satanic Ritual Abuse
This video reveals the dimensions of cult attacks on children's concept of
God, and explores aspects of healing not ordinarily addressed in therapy.
Christian perspective.
#D-230, 105 min.

Videos for Professional Training:
Sessions and Sand Trays
Expressive art has proved to be a powerful tool in the diagnosis and
treatment of ritual abuse survivors. In this video, Roberta Sachs, PhD
demonstrates the value of sand tray therapy in working with DID and other
dissociative disorder clients.
#D-224A, 74 min.

Ritual Child Abuse: A Professional Overview
Clinicians share insights from hundreds of case histories. Topics include
mind control techniques, daycare safety, ritual molestation, and criminal
justice system problems.
#D-219, 30 min.

Identification of the Ritually Abused Child
This program highlights the sometimes subtle indicators that point to
possible cult victimization. Clinicians utilize a variety of play therapy
techniques, including sand trays and projective art.
#D-220, 40 min.

Treatment of the Ritually Abused Child
The special treatment needs of these confused and deeply traumatized young
victims are examined in detail through both session segments and on-camera
discussion by therapists.
#D-221, 30 min.

Video for Law Enforcement:
Ritual Crime: Guidelines for Identification
Intended for law enforcement agencies, this
video provides a comprehensive overview of
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#D-218, 29 min.

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[CTRL] TAKE NOT COUNSEL OF YOUR FEARS

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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 "TAKE NOT COUNSEL OF YOUR FEARS"

By Mike Vanderboegh, Brevet Col.
1st Alabama Cavalry Regiment, Constitutional Militia

"As time went by we built the mythology of the Minute Men even further.
We depicted them as a small but courageous band of farmers who responded
to a spontaneous call to arms, an untrained and poorly armed rabble.
The truth, of course was very different.  There were actually 14,000
colonials under arms in the militia and Minute Man regiments.  They were
alerted by organized alarm riders via a system that dated back to the
17th century wars.  They had trained intensively for a year and were
armed with the same type weapons as the British.  Lexington was an
important battle in the history of the United States, not only because
it was the opening moment of the war that created our country but also
because it provides us a microcosm of the drift to war-- with all the
tensions, the misinterpretations, the fears and the posturings, the
courageous and the foolish acts that augur the clash of arms."
-- General John R. Galvin, "THE MINUTEMEN", 1989, Pergamon-Brassey
Press.

As I write this, "Triple Ought" is 16 days away.  On the internet and
over the fax, phone and radio nets that make up the "alarm rider" system
of those who love the Constitution and the Republic, messages full of
what Shakespeare called "alarums and excursions" are reverberating.  The
Federal Bureau of Investigation has succeeded in finding some
weak-minded fools to maneuver into "conspiracies" great and small to try
to prove the thesis laid out in their paranoid millenial conspiracy
theory term paper dubbed "Project Megiddo."  That the FBI, whose
underwear was so recently pulled down around its ankles by Mike
McNulty's new Waco documentary, should attempt to change the subject by
making cases against "militia maniacs" is hardly surprising.  What is
surprising is the reaction to these events by heretofore level-headed
constitutionalists who have thereby concluded that the sky is falling,
the "roundup" is beginning, martial law is around the corner, and that
King William the Worst of Arkansas' coronation is not far behind, which
we will all watch on "1984ish" video monitors from our cells in
internment camps.

Now I have not been on the Internet for some months (much to the relief
of some I'm sure), but our unit monitors the message traffic there.
Keyboard commandos, professional rumor shadowboxers and Chicken Littles
aside, it remains a vital means of sharing information between
Constitutionalists.  But I have have not opted out of the Constitutional
militia movement this year.  On the contrary, I've been spending my time
training my unit and getting it ready to fight-- we call it "The Three
B's", beans, bullets and boots in the grass, training.

Since July we have expended thousands of rounds of blank ammunition and
legal pyrotechnics in fire and manuever field training exercises (FTXs),
based on the Marine Corps' rifle company (thirteen man squad/four man
fire team) organization.  At no time have we broken even one law, even
though Alabama has an anti-paramilitary training law.  Our recruits are
impressed early on with the fact that we run an entirely legal unit, and
felons need not apply.  Convinced of the superiority of aimed,
semi-automatic rifle fire, we have no need for explosives or automatic
weapons.  We make no ridiculous offensive contingency plans based on
defeatist nonsense: our legal charter as well as our historical
patrimony defines us as the premier defensive tool of the armed
citizenry against either disorder or a tyrannical federal government.
We are not a private army, nor could a politically-motivated federal
prosecutor successfully misconstrue us as one to a candid jury.  During
this time we have picked up many new recruits, even as some of the older
members fell by the wayside once they realized from the training that
their mouths had been writing checks their bodies might actually have to
cash.  The recruits, by the way, far outnumbered the drop-outs.

And as we have honed our military skills, I have noticed in my officers
and troopers (men and women) as well as myself a growing confidence.
Competence promotes confidence, just as preparation prevents panic.
"Train like you fight," a grizzled Marine veteran once told me, "and
you'll fight like you train."  Indeed, we train more often than the
average National Guard unit, and our morale, motivation and esprit is
higher by far.  In one training weekend, we expend more rounds (blank
and live) than does the average Guard unit in summer training.  When we
conduct live fire exercises, we hit what we aim at.

More importantly, every time we go to the range, every time we cruise a
gun show or a gun shop, we run into members of other units just like
ours.  Morris Dees has pronounced the militia movement to be dying.
Well, my Constitutional Militia movement is 

[CTRL] GOP News Views - December 30, 1999

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!

***
Our National Soap Opera Continues

“This shocking photo (on the cover of this week’s GLOBE) of President Bill
Clinton’s wounded face and neck is dramatic proof that First Lady Hillary
clawed her husband after he spent an intimate night with Barbra Streisand in
the White House, conclude sources.  ‘Hillary went for him with her fists
flailing and screaming:  ‘I’ll tear your eyes out, you bastard,’ says an
insider. ... On March 19, 1993, Hillary rushed with daughter Chelsea to
Little Rock, Ark., to the bedside of her dying dad Hugh Rodham Sr., 82, who
had suffered a massive stroke.  Streisand arrived at the White House on March
26 for an overnight visit.  News reports on TV said the songbird’s stay
spilled over an extra night.  Streisand slept in the Queen’s Room and Clinton
took her to the annual Gridiron Club’s political roast as his guest. ...
Hillary was so outraged by Clinton’s flirtatious behavior with Streisand, 57,
that she cut her Arkansas stay short and returned on April 4, say sources.
... When Hillary saw Clinton, he had tiny scratches on his face that looked
like the result of passionate lovemaking, confides the insider. ... The
couple were in their private quarters, upstairs in the master bedroom, when
Hillary went ballistic and lunged at her husband in a white-hot rage, say
sources.  ‘She gouged at his eyes and he tried to dodge away,’ says the
insider.  ‘She kept swinging her fists and caught him a numbing blow to the
side of the head.  Then in her blind fury, she dug her nails into his face
and raked them down his cheek and into his neck - leaving raw, red claw
marks.’ ... Two days later, the claw marks were still visible when the photo
was snapped as Clinton hosted a visit by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.”

- GLOBE, 1/4/00


Speaking of Streisand...

Clinton groupie and rumored paramour Barbra Streisand will be gracing Las
Vegas to ring in the new century this weekend ... that is, if her big head
can fit through the double doors of the MGM Grand’s concert hall.  According
to Las Vegas Review Journal columnist Norm Clarke, hotel workers have been
issued a secret directive “that forbids them from looking at the diva not
only during check-in, but during her entire stay.”  Well!  “Bellmen had to
back her luggage into her room last week to avoid eye contact, and security
guards in the hallways where she walks must turn their backs to her,” Clarke
reports, adding that the “no looking” orders are part of her contract.  What
a mega-ego.  Is it possible for anyone to be more full of themself?  Doesn’t
the hypocrisy of these limousine liberals - the self-proclaimed champions of
the “little people” - just make you wanna reach for a barf bag?  Hope she
breaks a leg.  No, really.

*
Ending Public Education As We Know It

“The time has come to break up the biggest monopoly of all (public schools) -
not to do away with education, but precisely so that education can prosper in
the way the telephone companies and airlines have done: by competition.  The
best teachers would benefit by attracting tuition-paying students, and there
would be a place for thousands of different types of schools.  The poor would
only be left behind when and if they chose to be, since private voucher and
scholarship funds would abound.  Or, parents could pay their child’s tuition
by working at the school.  Those who would suffer would be the unions and the
government - stripped of their tax money and their coercive dues.”

- Mary Novello, research analyst for the Nevada Policy Research Institute,
Las Vegas Business Press, 12/27/99

***
Mack the Naïf

“Democrat Michael Mack, who was appointed to the new Ward 6 Las Vegas City
Council seat November 17 and is scheduled to take office January 1, is the
owner of First Class Pawn  Jewelry.  The Carpenters Union was possibly Mr.
Mack’s strongest and most visible ally in the months-long maneuvering to win
him this sought-after appointment. ... Now, repaying the favor, Mr. Mack has
mailed out a letter on his business stationary addressed to the 6,000 union
carpenters, offering them a ‘special holiday discount’ at his store. ...(I)n
the process of attempting to drum up more business he is offering things of
real value - price discounts and forgiveness of standard interest payments on
pawns - to those who have already supported him politically, and for whose
votes he will doubtless be wrangling come re-election time in 2001. ... In
Mr. Mack’s business, there is considerable value set on the ability to hear
the difference between a silver coin and a zinc slug ringing on the counter -
or to discern a cubic zirconium from a true 

Re: [CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

earthman,

Sounds like a true conspiracy theory to me.

(I'm not a KFC consumer,  but this story is a little "OUT THERE").

I own bridges in New York and ocean front property in Arizona,
if you'd care to buy.

eagle 1

- Original Message -
From: "earthman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: [CTRL] K F'ing C


 -Caveat Lector-

 Just some information for those who care.

 KFC has been a part of our American traditions for many years. Many
people,
 day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what they
 are eating? During a recent study of KFC done at the University of New
 Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts. First of all, has anybody
 noticed that just recently, the company has changed their name?
 Kentucky Fried Chicken has become KFC. Does anybody know why? We thought
the
 real reason was because of the "FRIED" food issue. It's not. The reason
why
 they call it KFC is because they can not use the word chicken anymore.
Why?
 KFC does not use real chickens. They actually use genetically manipulated
 organisms. These so called "chickens" are kept alive by tubes inserted
into
 their bodies to pump blood and nutrients throughout their structure. They
 have no beaks, no feathers, and no feet. Their bone structure is
 dramatically shrunk to get more meat out of them. This is great for KFC
 because they do not have to pay so much for their production costs. There
is
 no more plucking of the feathers or the removal of the beaks and feet. The
 government has told them to change all of their menus so they do not say
 chicken anywhere. If you look closely you will notice this. Listen to
their
 commercials, I guarantee you will not see or hear the word chicken. I find
 this matter to be very disturbing. I hope people will start to realize
this
 and let other people know. Please forward this message to as many people
as
 you can. Together we make KFC start using real chicken again.


 Deidre Williams-Bishop
 Mis Tech, Boston/Hingham
 Boston (617) 626-1295
 Hingham (781) 740-1600 ext.112

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[CTRL] AF News 31 Dec 99

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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992315.  Signing ceremony gives closure on Rhein-Main's future

by Senior Airman Dan Bernath
469th Air Base Group Public Affairs

RHEIN-MAIN AIR BASE, Germany (AFPN) -- The writing was on the wall for
Rhein-Main Air Base for years, but with the signing of an agreement to
return the entire base property to the Federal Republic of Germany, Dec. 23,
it was finally in black and white.

The agreement, signed in a ceremony at the base passenger terminal by
officials from the U.S. State Department, U.S. Air Forces in Europe, the
German government and the German states of Hessen and Rhineland-Palatinate,
calls for the complete return of Rhein-Main by the end of 2005.
Negotiations for the return began in May 1998.

Frankfurt's international airport, Flughafen Frankfurt Main AG, will be the
beneficiary of Rhein-Main's nearly 385 acres, allowing the company to expand
its cargo handling and aircraft parking facilities, said Flughafen
officials.  In return, USAFE will receive a total of DM 730 million to
relocate Rhein-Main's contingency and airlift operations to Ramstein and
Spangdahlem Air Bases, Germany.

Gen. John P. Jumper, USAFE commander, said the agreement would offer
"tremendous benefits" to both German and U.S. interests.

"The Air Force will reduce its manpower and operating costs by consolidating
Rhein-Main's functions at two existing bases," the general said, noting the
move would also provide an opportunity to modernize airlift operations
facilities at both bases. "In turn, Germany's premier airport will gain room
to expand and to accommodate the future growth of air transportation."

According to USAFE officials, Ramstein will take 65 percent of Rhein-Main's
traffic load -- which totals about 3,900 aircraft arrivals and departures
each year -- while Spangdahlem picks up the rest.

To accommodate the extra traffic, USAFE planners envision major construction
projects at both bases.  Using funds from the agreement, Ramstein will
receive runway, ramp and taxiway construction as well as new freight and
passenger facilities, said Lt. Col. Fred Schmokel, USAFE plans, programs and
readiness.

Meanwhile, Spangdahlem will need additional parking ramp space, wider and
stronger taxiways, and new cargo and maintenance facilities to handle the
heavy cargo aircraft that make up the bulk of Rhein-Main's business.

Rhein-Main, perhaps best known for its key role as a staging point for the
Berlin Airlift from 1948 to 1949, experienced an initial drawdown in 1995.
About half the base property was returned to the German government, and the
base population was reduced from about 10,000 community members to about
3,000.  In addition to its current role in maintaining contingency
operations for deployed aircraft and personnel, Rhein-Main hosts 30 tenant
units, including State Department facilities and the Army's processing
center for personnel assigned to Germany.


992314.  Now Showing:  Dec. 27 edition of Air Force Television News

KELLY AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- The final 1999 edition of Air Force
Television News highlights airmen who, during the past year, were examples
of how unselfish and giving men and women in the Air Force can be.  The
program features a series of stories aired during the year on the program of
the humanitarian side of the Air Force.  It is dedicated to the men and
women of the Air Force and their contributions to their country.

From a colonel who collected more than $100,000 to get bone marrow
transplants for a young leukemia victim in Bosnia, to an Air Force family
that has become its own version of an adoption agency to help homeless kids,
the program shows just how involved airmen are in their communities.  Other
examples of the giving spirit of Air Force members include the life-saving
efforts in Albania for a young victim of the Balkans war; the undying spirit
and determination of prisoners of war during the Vietnam War and Hollywood's
tribute to their belief in their country; and, the story of one POW and his
return to the country of his captors as a representative of the United
States.


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any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use
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Re: [CTRL] JESUS WAS JEWISH ?

1999-12-30 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Bill Kingsbury" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  They did not know that he was a believing Jew, who was born,
  according to historians in the year 4 BCE (and not in the year 0),
  in Bethlehem, and that his mother's name was Miriam, that is, the
  Virgin Mary.

Neither did the teenage twin sisters who sometimes babysat for my
sister and me...good Roman Catholics and products of parochial schools
that they were, they believed that Jesus was born a Roman Catholic,
and were shocked when my mother told them that Jesus was a Jew...

So what's your point?


  Some thought that Mary Magdalene, the prostitute, was the mother of
  Jesus.

There is no evidence that the Magdalene was ever a prostitute...only
false tradition...


June

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1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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Voice of the Grunt, 1999-12-29-B
===
ARTICLE 5
~
FREEDOM ISN"T FREE - A CALL TO ARMS TO HELP OUR OWN
~
ZIMM Note:  "Tig" Dupre, a regular reader and contributor send us this update
on the USMC training accident which took the lives of six Marines and one
Sailor. The incident reminds us that freedom is not free and that
unfortunately, all too often, the civilian communities never hear of these
tragedies, and sometimes don't care.  They forget that our job is dangerous,
even during peacetime training.  Nonetheless, we of the Brotherhood of War
have an obligation to do our best to care for our own. "Tig", thanks for the
reminder.
**

On December 10, 1999, a USMC Force Reconnaissance platoon was assigned to
perform a VBSS on the USNS Pecos as part of a training exercise in
preparation for deployment with the 15th MEU (SOC) in January 2000.  The
assault team was comprised, in part, of two CH-47 helicopters assigned to the
Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 166.  They were going to land if there was
room, or fast rope if not.

A SEAL platoon was to assault simultaneously from surface/up. US Navy Special
Boat Unit rigid hull inflatables (RIB) and their crews were on other side of
ship, carrying the SEALs who were to perform the assault.  The pilot of one
of the helicopters struck, or became tangled in the netting surrounding the
stern of the ship.  The aircraft immediately became unstable and rolled into
the ocean and sank. Eleven survivors were immediately pulled from the water,
however six Marines and one sailor died in the crash.

All Force Recon personnel were from the 5th Platoon and part of the 15th
Marine Expeditionary Unit based at Camp Pendleton, north of San Diego.

SCHOLARSHIP TRUST FUND

The FRA has established a SCHOLARSHIP TRUST FOR THE SURVIVING CHILDREN of
those tragically lost. The children are Frederick GALLOWAY, Age 7, Stetson
GALLOWAY, Age 5 and William GALLOWAY, Age 4, all sons of SSgt. David E.
GALLOWAY; Nicholas SABASTEANSKI, Age 18 Months, son of SSgt. Vincent A.
SABASTEANSKI; Derek BACA, son of Cpl. Mark A. Baca. HM1 Asis and SSgt
Starling had no known children at this time.

Those desiring to make a donation to this Special Scholarship Trust may make
their check or money order payable to "FRA SCHOLARSHIP TRUST FUND" and add a
memo indicating if you want it donated to an individual "By Name" child or to
be "Evenly Split" amongst all 5 children. No specific designation of donation
will be evenly divided amongst all 5 children. Mail your donation(s) to:

15th MEU Memorial Fund
c/o: Force Recon Association
3784-B Mission Ave., PMB # 1775
Oceanside, CA92054 - 1460

Or, you can contact:

Gary "Buddha" Marte
Major, USMC, Retired
Executive Director, Force Recon Association
Office (760) 439 - 8633

===
ARTICLE 6
~
PREPARING FOR THE MILLENNIUM AND UNCERTAIN FUTURE

ZIMM note: Another "Old Soldier" article that appeared in the El Paso Times
on 4 December 1999. Our contributor's E-mail didn't mention the title but I
thought it appropriately points to some of the pertinent issues in
preparation for the upcoming Millennium. It clearly shows us that national
defense concerns all of us.  It' can't be just something we pay for and let
someone else provide.  National defense is tightly linked to the unity and
ultimately the survival of American culture.
**
By James R. Revels

Around this time of year, prognosticators are in overload mode, trying to
make sense of an uncertain future. The long range planning efforts of those
responsible for national security warrant attention.

As the nation stands on the brink of uncertainty, fueled by the approaching
millennium, national security planners should be wasting no time deciding the
future role of our armed forces in the coming unknown environment. There are
countless questions needing answers, but national leadership, in pursuit of
answers, is direly lacking.

What kind of armed force will be needed tomorrow? Will there be enough
qualified young men to operate and maintain sophisticated weapons of war? How
can the military be best utilized to defeat international state sponsored
terrorism? What should be the role of women in tomorrow's armed forces? Tough
questions, for sure, but our future national security demands attention to
these and other important questions now. Tomorrow will be too late to make
the truly difficult decisions needed to properly organize our future armed
forces. Policies and programs, needed to support future military decisions,

[CTRL] Bone-Conducting Sound Waves

1999-12-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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From Hermit:

Towards Ultimate CONTROL...BONE-CONDUCTING SOUND WAVES
that cannot be offset by protective gear.

ELECTROMAGNETIC TOTALITARIAN CONTROL OVER AMERICA

The 4\94 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN reported that Janet E. Morris and her
husband Christopher C. Morris "have been involved in promoting a
'psycho-correction' technology, developed by a Russian scientist, that
is INTENDED TO INFLUENCE BY MEANS OF SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES EMBEDDED
IN
SOUND OR VISUAL IMAGES." In 1993, "the Morrises organized a meeting in
which the technology was demonstrated for U.S. scientists and officials
by its Russian inventor."
**
Towards Ultimate CONTROL
Excerpted from : http://web.access.net.au/~axxs/Mindcontrol.htm

Defense news reported that on Dec. 15, 1992, Janet Morris stated that
she and the Richmond, Virginia-based International Health-line
Corporation "have briefed senior U.S. intelligence and Army officials
about the Russian capabilities, which Morris said could include
hand-held devices for purposes of special operations, crowd control and
anti-personal actions."

Morris reported that this particular weapon creates "BONE-CONDUCTING
SOUND WAVES that cannot be offset by protective gear. These devices
appear to work at the Very Low Frequency (VLF) spectrum, the same
frequency range as generated by the sinister U.S. Gwen (Ground Wave
Emergency Network) system of transmitters.
***
DEFENSE ELECTRONICS reported that a Richmond, Virginia firm,
"Psychotechnologies "(believed to be closely tied to the CIA and the FBI)
has purchased the American rights to the Soviet mind-control devices.
***
Are these things being TESTED?  [EMF flux of different waveforms and
intensities.]

"Mysterious sound keeps some residents awake, defies explanation."
http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/media/mailing/archive/iufo/msg11560.shtml
**
Rep. Bill Richardson, a member of the House intelligence
committee, told a group at a Taos town meeting that the Hum is
defense related and asked the Pentagon to shut it down.

A Denver acoustical engineer reportedly was able to capture the
sound on an oscilloscope measuring between 17 and 70 hertz.
**
A test of the SOUND WEAPON was done by Navy Ships off the coast of Palos
Verdes, California
(directed Inland)in the hours BEFORE the Los Angeles Riots, in 1992.
Security Guards near the old
Marineland Complex (in Palos Verdes) reported seeing the ships (which stayed
for several days).
These ships had never been seen in this location before or after this EVENT.
The Officers reported
that the ground, near the cliffs, was VIBRATING. And the vibration was going
into their "Bones" and
was Quite DISTURBING and "Stressful".
* LaterThere were reports that Provocateur "TEAMS" had pre-marked
buildings to be "burnt", in
L.A..  And "Incendiary Devices" were thrown onto the roofs of these
building, by "Agent
Provocateurs".
*
   On April 29, 1992, twelve jurors in Sylmar, California rendered their
verdicts in a controversial case involving the 1991 beating of Rodney
King by four LAPD officers. The case had received heavy media
coverage dating from before it even went to trial, when a video of the
beating hit the national airwaves. It came as a surprise then, as the
verdicts were read: One of the officers was found guilty of excessive
force; the other officers were cleared of all charges.

The verdicts were broadcast live, and word spread quickly throughout
Los Angeles. At various points throughout the city that afternoon,
people
began rioting. For the next three days the violence and mayhem
continued. Mayor Tom Bradley imposed a curfew, schools and
businesses were closed. Governor Pete Wilson dispatched 4,000 National
Guard troops to patrol the streets.
http://www.usc.edu/isd/archives/la/la_riot.html
***
Los Angeles: A City in STRESS

Were the L.A. Riots the result, of a "Field Test", of a "Vibrational"
Weapon?
*  The toll from the worst civil unrest LA
had experienced since 1965 was devastating: more than 50 killed, over 4
thousand injured, 12,000 people arrested, and $1 billion in property
damage.

*
Naval Warfare Centers :

[CTRL] Voice of the Grunt, 1999-12-29-A

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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***
**   VOICE OF THE GRUNT
**
** 29 December 1999 **
Y2K EDITITION  DO NOT PANIC!
***
TABLE OF CONTENTS   ARTICLES

Hack's Column:
Open Letter to President Clinton1
Hack Notes 99/00

Z-"Flash":
Looking for Quite a few Good men in Y2K 2

From The Field:
USAF:  Don't think like Soldiers!   3
Values Sell! - The Recruiting Practices of the Armed Forces 4
Freedom isn't Free - A Call to Arms to help our Own 5

Thoughts from Outside:
Preparing for the Millennium and an Uncertain Future6

Medal of Honor:
Gino J. Merli, PFC, 18Th Infantry, 1St Infantry Division, Belgium,1944  7

G.I Humor:
Next:  President Clinton in Butter? 8


ARTICLE 1
~
OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
~~
BY DAVID H. HACKWORTH, 29 December 1999

Dear Mr. President,

Seven years ago you took command of a lean fighting outfit that had just
busted Saddam Hussein's chops in a war that was over faster than you could
say, "Oh, Monica."

Back in 1992, our warriors were combat-ready, battle-tested and bristling
with magic spirit -- that fire in the belly which is the most crucial of all
the elements of war.

As this century closes, our military is 50 percent smaller than the armed
forces George Bush placed in your trust, and their once- deadly edge has been
dulled on the futile rocks of Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, and Kosovo.

The bumbled war with Serbia has only confirmed that today we simply don't
have what it takes to replicate another Desert Storm.

Mr. Clinton, you've tasked our forces to do too much with too little for too
long. Their combat ability is frayed, and they and their loved ones are weary
and dispirited.

Daily, fine men and women from buck sergeant to bull colonel tell me, " I'm
hanging it up.  I can't take it anymore!"

In more than a half-century of being a soldier or a writer about soldiers,
I've seldom seen lower morale.

Nor have I seen more self-serving senior leaders.  From Secretary of Defense
Bill Cohen in the bloated Pentagon to the generals and admirals who make up
the most brass-heavy military bureaucracy in our country's history.

 Perhaps you can take credit for our booming economy -- of those sort of
matters I'm ignorant.  But you must also take responsibility for the
weakening of our military --   you are the person under whose command our
forces went from STRAC to SLACK.   As Harry Truman once said, the buck stops
at your desk.  And I hold you accountable.

Your feckless leadership and fickle policies began with your order that gays
serve openly, followed by your policies earmarking the profession of arms as
a place to provide females and minorities with equal opportunity.  You and
your advisors never got it straight that the U.S. military is not an equal
job employer, but a finely honed sword forged only for the battlefield ---
where survival and winning are dependent on skill, sacrifice, spirit, unit
cohesion and discipline.

These factors, mixed with total trust and caring leadership, allow a force to
win.  Battles are not won by how skin color or gender fits into a Pentagon
personnel quota matrix, but by teams who've been sweated to perfection.

Every serving senior brass hat has been personally approved by you. The
majority fit into the same go-along-to-get-along and
don't-rock-the-boat-mold.  None have challenged your reckless misuse of our
military or your wrongheaded personnel policies.

Why should they?  They weren't picked for stand-up leadership, but because
they'd roll over.  There's not a Patton, Nimitz or Puller-type in the lot of
them, and few are trusted by the folks they lead.

But you can still redeem yourself - although don't think it can be by
throwing more money at the Pentagon, even though the leading candidates
hustling for your job say that's the fix.

The answer is leadership.  You need to begin by sacking Cohen and replacing
him with a person of the stature of George C. Marshall.  A leader with the
integrity, know-how and guts to turn the U.S. military around.  Cohen's (1)
allowing the forces to be weakened, (2) mishandling of the war with Serbia or
(3) his Anthrax disaster -- pick any one of the above -- are more than
sufficient justification.

 At the beginning of World War II, our military's senior leadership was also
sick.  Marshall, then Army Chief of Staff, sacked the General Blimps and
fast-promoted the Gavins, Ridgways, and Pattons. Leaders who weren't afraid
to make the sweeping, visionary changes that reshaped our military 

[CTRL] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: Dr. X's Files: Paranormal Phenomena...or Miracles.

1999-12-30 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: Dr. X's Files: Paranormal Phenomena...or
"Miracles".


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Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 8:10 PM
Subject: Fwd: Dr. X's Files: Paranormal Phenomena...or "Miracles".


I've no idea who "FWP" is.

The bi-location as scientifically demonstrated recently, does not qualify
as paranormal, simply because it exists in reality, has ample explanation,
and has been shown to be true.  That takes it out of the "paranormal"
definition.

Gosh you ARE a Wizard. If it really happens etc. it can't be paranormal the
Wizard says. Therefore by decree, the Wizard has exorcized the demon of
psychic phenomena (and saved himself a million bucks). I recommend a
promotion from Wizard to Pope. Pope James has decreed that paranormal
phenomena can't exist in reality and therefore they don't exist in reality.

Whoever this "FWP" is, sounds a bit bewildered.

Let us find out exactly how and we can end the bewildement.

 He/she writes:  "It is
very scientific to give definitions,  don't you agree?"  Yes, I certainly
agree.  One of the biggest problems we have with applicants re the
million-dollar prize, is to get them to define what they think they can
do,
and under what conditions.  Definitions are VERY important.  But this
person goes on to write: "Now, JR thinks that this is just `semantics' but
any  bona fide scientist is very careful about definitions."  JR thinks no
such thing.  Please refrain from inventing attitudes, opinions, and
statements for me.

On Nov. 12, 1998 JR emailed me and said "Your reasoning is flawed, your
argument semantic". No argument was presented to show that my reasoning was
flawed but I agree that my argument is semantic. My Merriam-Webster gives
one definition of "semantic" and that is: "of or related to meaning".
Words,
definitions, meanings...and it is here that the Psychic Challenge is indeed
challenged and we can provide "evidence that demands a verdict" to quote
the
title of Josh McDowell's book on "the greatest story ever told".

Well, let's just look at the DEFINITION of "paranormal," shall we?  Though
I am unlettered and obviously incapable of handling such technical
matters,
I will give it a brave try.

You have letters but you have inadequate comprehesion of their meaning. As
St. John's Gospel says, "The light shineth in the darkness and the darkness
comprehended it not." Let me go on to enlighten you

 My Webster's Dictionary defines (there's the
operating word!) "paranormal" this way: " . . . of or pertaining to events
or perceptions occurring without scientific explanation . . ."

Given your understanding of this why even bother with the Psychic
Challenge?
You have said it is impossible by definition for anyone to win it. It
doesn't matter what they attempt to demonstrate. Why even bother with
staging them as you do?
   In ancient times, theology was said to be the queen of the sciences.
"Science" as the definition is narrowly understood by you is not the only
reality. Above you said "existing in reality" is the criterion of interest
to you. At one time established science said rocks could not fall from the
sky. Thus asteroids etc. were imposssible...by decree. Maybe if a rock
falls
out of the sky onto your head you will "see the light". I prescribe
standing
outdoors in the next meteorite shower.
   Meanwhile, try this. The reason a genuine paranormal event is not
explained scientifically is because science has not yet expanded its
understanding enough to encompass it. Until science could encompass rocks
falling from the sky they were also outside the pale of science. Some
scientists would have called reports of these rocks bogus and some would I
expect have called them paranormal (ie alleged materializations).  Thus
what
Webster's MEANS by scientific is "current knowledge accepted by science".
Meaning, JR. Meaning. One must comprehend the words to become enlightened!

 Bi-location
is quite well proven and explained in science.  Ergo: by definition, it is
NOT paranormal.

Please explain in YOUR scientific terms how it is that A can be both A and
not-A. Doesn't your science say A is A and not not-A.? I can give a
satisfactory explanation of quantum bi-location but I want to hear your
answer.

He/she runs on: "I refer to  James Randi's `naive rationalism' and
pseudo-science repeatedly in  Machine Psychology.  He is prejudiced, ie he
pre-judges what can and cannot  happen in nature...and that is NOT SOUND

Re: [CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread Mark McHugh

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Kathryn R Smith wrote:

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 http://www.brigaderoad.com/KFC/kfcmenu1.htm

 Well... the above link contains the word "chicken".
  Leave it to me to follow this story with all the others on this list...


It appears this page is for a KFC in Bangalore, India.  The prices are in
rupees.  I guess they get real chicken in the other countries and are
experimenting on us dull-witted Amis with more Frankenfood.

--
Mark McHugh

Semper Delectatus!

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[CTRL] AF News 30 Dec 99

1999-12-30 Thread Bill Richer

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992312.  Guard, Reserve to augment honor guards in veteran funeral services

WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- An aging veteran population, dwindling resources and
expanded requirements have left many base honor guard teams wondering how
they will meet increasing requests for military funeral honors.

To address legislation mandating military funeral honors for veterans, the
Air Force conducted a symposium in October for honor guard members from the
active, Reserve and Air National Guard forces.  More than 250 people
attended.

The legislation, which takes effect Jan. 1, requires a minimum of at least
two members of the armed forces to attend the funeral, fold and present the
flag, and play Taps.  At least one member of the detail must be from the
same service as the deceased.

"These are the minimum ceremonial functions required under the new
legislation," said Jim Halvorson, chief of mortuary and honor guard policy
on the Air Staff.  "Previously, the only thing required was that a flag be
presented at the funeral of veterans, when requested.  We typically did that
with a single representative."

For active-duty members and retirees, funeral honors consist of pallbearers,
firing party, folding and presentation of the flag, and the playing of Taps.

The Defense Department has tasked the Air Force to be the executive agent in
charge of publicizing the military funeral honors program.  As part of its
publicity campaign the Air Force will establish by Jan. 1:

* A website for the public to view their military funeral honors
entitlements.

* A toll-free request line for funeral home directors to obtain funeral
honors information.  The toll-free phone system routes calls to the
appropriate honor guard unit for their area of the country.

* An information kit containing a Military Funeral Honors Directory to be
distributed to more than 25,000 funeral homes.  The kit will also be
available online for funeral home directors to download.

As people become aware of their entitlements, the number of funeral requests
is expected to rise. This has honor guard members concerned.

"I think we'll be able to meet the challenge at first," Halvorson said.
"But I think after a year or two, it's going to get bigger than our
capability is ..."

He said he was disappointed that the wording of the new law states "two
members of the armed forces" will perform funeral honors, because that
precludes retirees from participating in the honor guard.

"The general counsel researched and found we could not use retirees, because
they're no longer members of the armed forces," Halvorson explained.  He
said there are plans to submit a proposal to get the wording changed next
year to allow retirees to participate in honor guard details.

Last year, the Air Force conducted about 7,000 funerals.  Halvorson said the
number is expected to climb to at least 45,000 over the next year or so.

"We have some concerns right now, as the majority of our bases are stretched
thin," Halvorson said.  "The honor guard is a volunteer program; however, at
over 70 percent of our bases right now, they have to use a quota system to
meet the challenge they have today."

Currently, Halvorson said, the Air Force supports all funeral requests.
But, only 6 percent of the eligible veterans have requested funeral honors.
If projections are correct, and requests go up eight-fold, he said he is
concerned the active force will not have the manpower to meet the challenge.

To help meet the anticipated increase, the Air Force is working on a
manpower initiative for fiscal 2002 to place full-time honor guard positions
at some Air National Guard, Air Force Reserve locations, and active
installations that have large numbers of requests.

By funding honor guard requirements, the Air Force hopes to encourage more
Guard and Reserve participation.

"We're going to be augmenting the active-duty force at the locations where
we have Reserve units or bases," said Lynda Mikanowicz, chief of military
support branch, Air Force Reserve Command, Robins Air Force Base, Ga.

"We've been pretty aggressive in trying to recruit both individuals and our
honor guard units to get in touch with the active-duty teams and volunteer
their services, because we know the demand is going to increase
significantly," Mikanowicz said.

The Air National Guard is also stepping up its honor guard recruitment
campaign at ANG units.  "From the Guard perspective, we are going to make
every attempt to support the total force concept," said Jim Bennett, ANG
services career field program manager at the Air National Guard Readiness
Center headquarters, Andrews AFB, Md.

"The new law will allow us, for the first time, to put our traditional Guard
volunteers on orders to perform this important function."

"We all know this is going to be hard to accomplish," said Tech Sgt. Vincent
Hampton, honor guard superintendent at Randolph AFB, 

[CTRL] Presidential Millennium Message

1999-12-30 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Um, Billy? How unforgettable?

---

Thursday December 30 6:46 PM ET

Presidential Millennium Message

By The Associated Press

Text of a millennium message to the nation from President Clinton:

Warm greetings to all Americans as we welcome a new century and a new
millennium. This rare moment in our history is a time for hope and
reflection, a time to recognize both the challenges and the opportunities
that will face us in the coming years.

We have much to celebrate on this wonderful occasion and many reasons to be
proud. Today we are enjoying the longest sustained period of economic growth
in our nation's history, offering greater opportunities for every American.
We can be rightfully proud, too, that the history of our democracy, with its
widening circle of human freedom, still inspires the world and that America
continues to serve as a leader in promoting peace and human rights across
the globe.

Even as we celebrate our successes, however, we must also acknowledge that
we face many challenges in the century ahead. While we are making great
strides toward achieving full equality and justice for all Americans, we
must ensure that in the coming century all our people live in One America --
an America where we are not separated from one another by prejudice, by
economic injustice, or by a digital divide.

We must have the vision to use new technology to improve our schools and
stir the creativity of our young people; and we must ensure that every
school and every child has access to the treasury of electronic resources
that lies just beyond our keyboards and computer screens. We must continue
our efforts to find cures for the diseases that still afflict us and that
ravage many parts of the developing world. And we must put new resources at
the disposal of our artists, scholars, and scientists to help them make new
discoveries, preserve our historic legacy, and light tomorrow with the fire
of their imaginations.

The theme for our national millennial celebration is ``Honor the Past --
Imagine the Future.'' By resolving at this moment to make a lasting
difference in the lives of others, both in our communities and around the
world, we will keep faith with our great past and ensure that America's
future will reflect our fundamental ideals of freedom and opportunity for
all.

Best wishes for an unforgettable celebration.

--
He who sees the truth, let him proclaim it, without asking who is for it or
who is against it. -Henry George

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Re: [CTRL] property

1999-12-30 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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I almost feel I should respond to this after following the KFC story...


I own bridges in New York and ocean front property in Arizona,
if you'd care to buy.

eagle 1

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Re: [CTRL] Presidential Millennium Message

1999-12-30 Thread Eagle 1

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Did you say how forgettable? I already forgot...
Oh, no I see now,  unforgettable...  What is unforgettable?

eagle 1

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 Um, Billy? How unforgettable?

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[CTRL] Fwd: MILLENNIUM MESSAGE #2: Y2K Helpful Hints

1999-12-30 Thread Eagle 1



For those who've panicked... 
There is last minute hope for 
survival.



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 8:20 PM
Subject: MILLENNIUM MESSAGE #2: Y2K Helpful Hints
Y2K HELPFUL HINTSby Greg ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Most of us have 
taken varying forms of precaution and preparation for thechange of the year, 
but there are some last-minute chores that one mightwant to consider before 
midnight Friday. While none of us knows what willor will not occur, 
the suggestions below probably do not represent anygreat change from the way 
folks normally do their lives. It's just amatter of *when* you do 
these things.With all of the last-minute activities going on, there are 
a few common,mundane things that one might want to consider in case they 
have beenignored in all of the "crisis planning." These are the most 
simplisticsuggestions in the world, and I do not mean to insult anyone's 
intelligenceby sending them. But sometimes when we are thinking 
"worst-case-scenario"thoughts, it is the simple things that are 
overlooked.If absolutely nothing happens, all of the suggestions below 
are STILLuseful ideas, and no one will be the worse for thinking these 
thingsthrough. smilesIf any of you think of anything else 
that falls into the "mundane"category, go ahead and send those suggestions 
list-wide. At this point, wereally don't need any more information 
about massive prep and survivaltechniques. We've already done that for 
several years now, we're as readyas we can be. But as always, it is 
the simple things...Here is the list of suggestions:Do all 
of your high-water-usage and non-survival-electrical usage chorestoday and 
tomorrow. Wash and dry all laundry. Do all of the 
dishes.Make sure everyone in the family bathes and shampoos by midnight 
Fri.After that, fill the tub with water for manual commode flushing if 
needed.You don't want to use your drinking and cooking water for sanitation 
needs.(After commode use, dip a bucket or saucepan into the tub water, 
pour thewater into the commode bowl while holding down the flush 
handle. If thisis needed, only flush when necessary. Use a minimal 
amount of bathroomtissue while in manual-flushing mode.)Dust and run 
the vacuum cleaner.Put clean sheets on the beds and launder the used 
ones. Bring out extrablankets from storage so they have a chance to 
air out a little.Bake breads, cakes, casseroles, whatever... 
postpone using long-termstorage food as long as you can.While we're 
all going to top-off our automobile gas tanks today ortomorrow, think 
through the other aspects of automotive maintenance. Havean extra 
couple of quarts of oil for your vehicle and an additional gallonof 
antifreeze or coolant available. Go ahead and check your car's 
fluids:transmission fluid, brake fluid, radiator, oil, etc. Check air 
pressure intires. Know the operational status of your vehicle from as 
manyperspectives as possible.If you have a gas-powered generator, 
you're probably well fixed for fuel.Don't neglect to have plenty of oil on 
hand for its maintenance.Have you turned on all of your flashlights to 
make sure they are fullyoperational and have new batteries and bulbs on hand 
for them? Are theflashlights located in a place where you can find 
them in the dark?If you have oil lamps, can you find the matches or 
lighter in the dark?Review with family members -- or establish if you 
have not already done so-- the "where to meet" location, if for some reason 
you become separatedand cannot get home, or if it is unsafe to go home, or 
if there is someother kind of situation where you need a meeting 
place. Make sure everyonecan get there, knows where it is, and 
understands what conditions mightcause you to use that meeting place. 
This is similar to the "if the houseis on fire" scenario where family 
members must leave the home and you needto be able to account for everyone's 
safety and presence after the house isvacated.In the event you must 
use flashlights or oil lamps, have you madeprovisions for "something to do," 
especially for young children? Boardgames, deck of cards, books, 
crayons and paper Have you provided for your pets? Extra 
dog or cat food, cat litter, waterprovisions for animals, pet medications, 
etc.Go ahead and make those phone calls to relatives and friends today 
andtomorrow if your intent is to wish them a happy new year and to check 
ontheir situation. Don't wait for the international phone rush. 
If, as the"experts" predict, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day are "Mother's 
Day toan exponential degree," you can expect phone lines to be jammed and 
longdistance service to be overloaded. If there are problems making 
calls,they may have nothing to do with any "glitch," and may simply be 
caused bymassive 
use.++ 
Citizens Against UFO 
Secrecy HTTP://www.caus.org+ 8624 E. San Bruno 
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EMail: [EMAIL 

Re: [CTRL] pc compliancy

1999-12-30 Thread Kathryn R Smith

 -Caveat Lector-

 When Microsoft sent me their web-site with pages on y2k compliancy
 for pc's, that 4 digit clock thing  was *one* of the things they
suggested.
They also  said they were sending out c-d roms to fix things but I never
received mine ordered over the phone a few weeks ago.
   Hope this doesn't count as Spam... :-/  But here's the letter and
 url I received about a month ago for anyone interested.
 Kathy

Dear Microsoft Customer:

The year 2000 is rapidly approaching, and there are simple steps you
can take to get your hardware, software and data ready.  We at
Microsoft want to make sure you have the information you need to make
this transition as easy as possible.

In order to keep you updated, we've set up a Web site that you can
access whenever you wish.  Just go to http://www.microsoft.com/y2k to
get year 2000 information and Microsoft® software updates. In order to
work properly after the year 2000, some Microsoft products may require
a year 2000 software update.  We recommend that you install the
software updates so you'll continue to have the best computing
experience. Of course, access to this Web site and any software updates
you need are free of charge (connect time charges may apply).

Thanks for using Microsoft products.  We look forward to continuing to
provide you with the best products to meet your computing needs.

Sincerely,

The Microsoft Product Groups

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] John Carman

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1999

Former Customs agent alleges corruption Blows whistle on
drug deals, smuggling, payoffs, bribes

WorldNetDaily Exclusive

By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

The good guys get forced out, so the bad guys can run
drugs, take bribes, and cover up their illegal activities,
says U.S. Customs Department whistleblower John Carman
about the agency he served for 15 years.

With a long career of meritorious service, Carman recently
won a victory in a court case he is pursuing against the
Customs Department over the treatment he has received.
Prior to losing his job at Customs, Carman worked for the
Secret Service, the U.S. Mint and the San Diego Police
Department.

"Some Customs agents up in Los Angeles and Riverside just
recently resigned because of the corruption that's going
on," Carman told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview.
"They're being ordered off the investigations. They're
being told not to do certain things. They just get tired of
it and they realize what happened to me. They don't want to
go through that, so they're bailing out real quick so they
can get another job and go on with their lives so they
don't get caught up in the mess," he explained.

Carman has a long list of infractions and evidence to
support his claims of drug deals, smuggling, payoffs,
bribes, drug running and more. The corruption is so deep,
he maintains President Clinton and Attorney General Janet
Reno must be complicit. They could not be unaware of the
level of corruption in the department, he insists.

President Clinton has taken steps to make it easier for
drugs to be smuggled into the U.S., he said. Surveillance
planes, chase cars, and other means to apprehend drug
runners have been discontinued under orders of the
president. Carman blames Clinton for increased drug traffic
and for a Customs Department that has become ineffective
and corrupt.

Carman has reported and documented many cases of various
levels of corruption to the internal affairs investigators
within the Customs Department. He says Reno is fully aware
of those complaints, but does nothing, and points out 15
years of charges have resulted only in death threats and
severe harassment for him.

Carman has issued a list of complaints and charges against
Customs officials over the years. He says the charges have
never been denied. Officials simply use bureaucratic red
tape to avoid answering the claims.

"I'm correct. They've never refuted any of the allegations.
That's the most important point. Never refuted anything
I've said," explained Carman. "They've only tried to skate
around it by saying 'you didn't follow procedures. You
didn't talk to somebody right.' That's all wrong because I
went to internal affairs, I went ... to the office of
special counsel ... I went to the Department of Justice, I
even went to the White House. Everybody. I followed suit
because I knew that if I didn't do it right I wouldn't be
able to go public and then they could say, well you
violated something. Well, I didn't."

"I've got a stack of paperwork to prove that I went to the
special counsel," he said, "and the administrative law
judge still ruled against me because he thought that I
didn't go to special counsel. Well, it's a waste of time.
They've got little old ladies on telephones that conduct
their investigations by calling up the bad guys and saying
'did you talk to Mr. Carman?' And they say no, and that
will be it. That's an investigation," Carman complained.

Although others have been frightened away, Carman has
refused to back down in his attempts to expose what he sees
as evil taking more and more control of the Customs
Department.

When he was forced to retire from the Customs Department,
he was able to obtain a favorable settlement agreement, but
he has been unable to get the Customs Department to abide
by that agreement. He says he can even show that corrupt
officials are preventing his service records from being
released, which has virtually ended his career as he
attempts to find new work.

Customs Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly recently toured U.S.
Customs facilities along the southwest border, according to
informed sources. His announced purpose was to learn about
problems and concerns directly from employees.

Carman claims that Kelly was sheltered by management
officials from the many problems and complaints that exist.

"Rudy M. Camacho ... was along to make sure that no one
would openly speak out against him or the commissioner.
Politics you know. Who's going to speak openly with the
'problem' standing right there with the Customs
Commissioner? I honestly feel that maybe headquarters
doesn't have the slightest idea about what is really
happening along the border. They have to rely on such
persons that are in charge with the intricacies of everyday
procedures and incidents that hardly ever reach the
Commissioner back in Washington," explained Carman.

Two spokesmen for the U.S. Customs 

[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] The Ten Worst Corporations of 1999

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan





The Ten Worst Corporations of 1999
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Charles Dickens, where are you when we need you?

Never has "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" served as
a more apt commentary on society than today.

The NASDAQ just broke 4,000 and has nearly doubled in 1999. The Dow is at
near-record heights as well. Internet, computer and communications
technologies are evolving at a stunning velocity. A lot of people are
becoming incredibly wealthy, and a lot are having fun on the Internet.

If you want, you can look at this state of affairs and say that everything
is fine. Go ahead, pat yourself on the back.

Or, you can look at a different set of snapshots and ask these and many
other probing questions:

Why does the United States, the richest nation in the history of the
world, warehouse its elderly in what are euphemistically called nursing
homes, permitting many to live out their last years in social isolation
and sometimes filth and neglect?

Why are profitable and fast-growing corporations permitted to expose their
workers to dangerous and life-threatening conditions that could be avoided
with minimal investments?

Why are the poor, undereducated and unsophisticated subject to a host of
financial scams that empty their small savings accounts or throw them into
debt?

Why are working people in the United State who try to organize into unions
regularly subjected to threats of firing and plant closure, harassment,
intimidation and managerial refusal to bargain with duly elected unions?

Why does the United States permit the massive concentration of economic
and political power through mergers and acquisitions that work to
foreclose democratic options for the future?

Why do rich societies permit their corporations to engage, directly or
indirectly, through contractors and subcontractors, in brutally
exploitative practices in developing countries -- practices that have long
been outlawed in the rich countries?

Why indeed.

There is of course no one single answer to these and the many other
critical questions that should be asked in a society that does so much to
generate wealth, at least as measured by conventional standards, but so
little to distribute that wealth -- or justice -- evenly. But there is one
connecting theme that serves, at least, as a partial answer to many of
these questions: concentrated corporate power.

Each year, to highlight the consequences of corporations and greed run
amok, Multinational Monitor publishes a list of the 10 worst corporations
of the year.

Here's this year's list, in alphabetical order:

Avondale: Good riddance

For more than half a decade, Avondale, which operates a shipyard in New
Orleans, waged a vicious campaign to block recognition of its employees'
desire for a union -- a desire springing in no small part from way below
industry standard wages and a gruesome workplace casualty record of a
death a year. In August, Avondale was acquired by Litton, which agreed to
recognize the workers' union in November.

Citigroup: The standard in political corruption

Citigroup played the lead role in ushering the "Financial Services
Modernization Act" through the U.S. Congress, in the process joining with
the rest of the financial services industry to set a new standard in
legalized bribery. The Act will tear down the regulatory walls between
banks, and insurance companies and securities firms, paving the massive
concentration of financial wealth and a future of industry bailouts,
weakening the Community Reinvestment Act and permitting huge intrusions on
consumer privacy.

Del Monte: Banana imperialism into the twenty-first century

In September, Bandegua, the Guatemalan subsidiary of Coral Gables,
Florida-based Fresh Del Monte Produce (now a separate company from
California-based Del Monte Foods), dismissed 900 of its banana workers.
When other unionized Bandegua workers tried to organize a solidarity
protest, the union leadership was met with a 200-person, armed goon squad
which chased the leadership out of town, threatening to kill them if they
returned. Del Monte and Bandegua deny responsibility, but they have
certainly benefited from the threats.

Guardian Postacute: Maggots everywhere

After learning that of Guardian Postacute Services Inc., a San Francisco
Bay area nursing home chain, had permitted dirty feeding tubes to be
installed into patients who then became infested with maggots, had
permitted patients to lie for extended periods in their urine and feces,
and had failed to take strong action against an employee who sexually
abused patients, Santa Clara County Deputy District Attorney Randy Hey has
filed criminal charges against Guardian.

Hoffman La Roche: Take the market, pay the fine

Earlier this year, the Swiss pharmaceutical giant F. Hoffmann-La Roche
Ltd. paid $500 million -- the largest fine in U.S. antitrust history --
for its efforts with German chemical maker BASF to allocate market shares
for certain vitamins 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Converts Behind the BONY Scandal

1999-12-30 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

December 30, 1999
The Wall Street Journal
Page One Feature

The Improbable Cast of Capitalist
 Converts Behind the BONY Scandal

By ANDREW HIGGINS, ANN DAVIS and PAUL BECKETT
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

In the small hours of Aug. 19, Ivan Bronov, a 28-year-old
foreign-exchange whiz at Russia's Depozitarno-Kliringovy
Bank, groped for the phone from bed in Moscow.

A panicked caller said an important account at Bank of New
York Co. couldn't be accessed. Mr. Bronov hung up and
dialed the cell phone in London of Lucy Edwards, a Bank of
New York executive he knew well.

"The police are here searching everything," she said,
according to a person familiar with the conversation. "I
don't know what's going on."

The game was about over: The underground pipeline that
siphoned about $7 billion from Russia through nine Bank of
New York accounts connected to a company called Benex
International Co. was in the hands of international
authorities.

Since then, the case has reverberated around the globe.
Republicans have used the case to charge the Clinton
administration with turning a blind eye to Russian
corruption, since some of the transfers are believed to
stem from organized crime. New money-laundering legislation
is being weighed that could tighten restrictions on U.S.
banks. And the International Monetary Fund has come under
attack for not monitoring its disbursements to Russia more
closely, based on suspicions that aid went astray.

Through it all, however, little has been revealed about the
obscure, and surprisingly amateurish, associates who
concocted the money-transfer system that ultimately
triggered the largest money-laundering investigation ever.
Among them: Mr. Bronov and a pal, who hatched an idea to
help Russian businesses, mostly tax-dodging importers, pay
their bills abroad; Ms. Edwards, who suggested how to move
the money; a Russian former fish merchant, and others in
Moscow and California who made the system run like
clockwork until that August night.

The seeds of the system were planted in the late 1980s at a
Moscow finance institute, where Mr. Bronov and fellow
student Kiril Gusev became friends. A short, muscular
Muscovite, Mr. Gusev toyed as a teenager with playing
professional soccer. But he gave that up to enroll in
finance and economics. He and Mr. Bronov shared many
passions: sports, bars -- and money.

After communism collapsed, Mr. Gusev landed a job at the
Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange, the main forum for
trading U.S. dollars. There, Mr. Gusev mastered the
mechanics of settling accounts at the end of each trading
session. In 1994, he met one of Western banking's rising
stars in Moscow, when Bank of New York's Ms. Edwards
installed software that plugged the currency exchange into
the U.S. bank's settlement system.

Mr. Bronov also went into the currency business, joining a
private Moscow bank called Industriya Servis. Among its
clients: Dial, one of Russia's biggest electronics
importers, and Olbi-Diplomat, then a rising retail chain.
Mr. Bronov, who likes to wear a black cap with a Nike logo
over his blond hair, chatted with importers about Russia's
thicket of tax, currency and customs regulations -- and
about ways to skirt them.

Mr. Bronov's work was lucrative enough for him to buy an
apartment in London. He and Mr. Gusev vacationed together
in England, France and the Caribbean. In Moscow, they
sometimes went out on the town or to a country dacha with a
friend they met through college buddies, Konstantin
Gerashchenko, son of Russia's Central Bank president.
 [[Lucy Edwards]]
But a plunge in the ruble in 1995 wiped out many small
banks, including Industriya Servis. Mr. Bronov eventually
joined Depozitarno-Kliringovy Bank, or DKB, which had been
founded as an offshoot of a program funded by U.S. foreign
aid. At DKB, Mr. Bronov handled the correspondent-banking
business, which let the bank make international money
transfers. He was soon joined by Mr. Gusev, who became a
liaison with the bank's import-export clients. Working
together for the first time, they would make DKB the
linchpin of Benex.

They would need help, however, from Aleksey Volkov. A
mild-mannered dental-surgery graduate and former ambulance
assistant, he had started a small business in 1992 by
buying a few boxes of German herring. Soon he was trucking
tons of fish into Russia through Poland, using Industriya
Servis as his bank. He took free samples to Mr. Bronov and
his colleagues. Recalls one recipient: "The place used to
stink from his damned fish."

Mr. Volkov, now 34, later switched to bringing pirated
compact disks into Russia, acquaintances say. He moved to
New York in 1994, but struggled -- until he met Dmitri
Kochkin, a colleague of Mr. Bronov's at Industriya Servis.

Mr. Kochkin had also come to the U.S. and, in 1994, formed
a company called General Forex Corp., which became a
prototype for Benex. Using little more than an account at
Citibank and a mail 

[CTRL] GERALD POSNER REPORT:

1999-12-30 Thread Gavin Phillips

 -Caveat Lector-

Posner  is a desiccated, innocuous , one level below ambulance chasing lawyer who 
yearns so desperately to be "somebody,". The shrill cry from somebody who has been 
ignored most of his life. "Please let me be somebody, anybody,  but the charisma and 
talent free sycophant that I am."

He gladly plays the role of low rent gofer for the likes of the  CIA/FBI etc.and in 
return they toss him a few crumbs of "fame" ; "Larry King" and "Geraldo" (another 
unprincipled, fawning [Clinton] ass kisser) and money. In return for which he degrades 
himself with his absurd [and massively padded out] book advocating Oswald as the lone 
gunman (thoroughly refuted by Grodin and Marrs amongst others) . They wheel him out to 
try and "debunk" any major charges of government malfeasance.


There are no depths to which Posner will not sink in order to boost his pitiful 
attempts at self-aggrandizement. What a worthless little man, spending his life aiding 
totally corrupted agencies and enhancing their ability to deceive people. Something to 
brag to the grand-kids about. Gavin.









I don't know about Posner's claims regarding Princess Di.
But I do know about Posner.

Posner has no credibility. For example, regarding his Kennedy book, Posner
states unequivocably that Oswald never, never met or dealt with David Ferrie,
the strange New Orleans CIA contract pilot and Marcella mob hanger on
who clearly was closely involved in the JFK plot.

Meanwhile a long published (and never disputed) photo shows a teenage
Oswald standing next to David Ferrie showing a local LA "Air Cadets" troop.
This photo was in the public domain (and well known) before Posner published
his Kennedy white wash several years ago.

Posner is a professional "debunker" who I suspect is part of the CIA
disinformation
mafia. He is regularly trotted out by the Corporate News talking heads
whenever
an
alleged government involved conspiracy gets public mention. I caught him last
week
on FOX News misstating and twisting basic facts concerning the MLK
assassination
while commenting on the recent civil trial in which the jury found MKL was
thevictim
of a conspiracy which invovled elements of the Federal Govt.

Posner (of course) has a new book out "debunking"any govt involvement in the
MLK assassination.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] GOP News Views - December 26, 1999

1999-12-30 Thread Bob Plante

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I still vote but there are many of us that would like the option to vote
for none of the above, given the slate of candidates selected for us by the
political parties and the media.  Also, are we to belive the results of these
elections?
The validity of the outcome of these elections should be in question.  If
you think about it, I'll bet that in your circle of friends most voted for
the candidate that lost.  Don't think for a minute that everyone else must
haved voted for the other guy. Instead be suspicious of the results.
There is no accountability in the outcome in these elections. Whose to
know if the outcome of the election has been manipulated either manually or
by computer to effect an election outcome that is favorable to the agenda of
the controlling power?
Think about it, a thief prefers to work under the cover of darkness.  The
political powers has convinced everyone that your ballot selection should be
secret thus allowing the ballot thief to work under the cloak of darkness
(secrecy).  No one, not even you, can check to see if your selection was
recorded correctly.
In my state, RI, I have personally seen evidence that strongly suggest
election fraud.  Worst than that was the indifferent and uninterested
position taken by the FBI when advised of this.  They did nothing!
I for one am ready to announce to the world my vote selection.  If enough
of us do this it will be more difficult for the ballot thief to steal you
vote and apply it to a candidate not of your choice.
As long as we go along with the secrecy element in our elections no one
can ever be sure that our election outcomes are anything other than
fraudulent.

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[CTRL] US Nuclear Stations to Cut Power Output During Y2K Rollover--Dow Jones Newswire (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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US Nuclear Stations to Cut Power Output During Y2K Rollover
Dow Jones Newswires
Antje Schiffler
12-29-99

NEW YORK (Dow Jones) --A number of the 103 U.S. nuclear power
generating stations are expected to reduce power output during
the year 2000 rollover, according to spokesmen at the U.S.
Nuclear Regulatory Commission's four regional offices.

It's easier to keep the unit online and react to unforeseen
events when output is reduced, said Neil Sheehan, spokesman for
the Northeastern NRC region.

"There are a number of plants that are planning to cut power for
a period of time," he added.

He couldn't specify which plants will cut power, however, because
licensees aren't required to report planned power reductions to
the agency.

Sheehan said power supply should be ample, though, because this
isn't a time of peak demand.

Power reductions vary from plant to plant, but are expected to be
between 10% to 20%, said Roger Hannah, public affairs officer at
NRC's Southeastern office.

Southern Nuclear's 1,215-megawatt Vogtle unit 2, located in
northeastern Georgia, shut down Tuesday and will remain shut
until Jan. 2 because operators don't want to repair a feedwater
heater tube leak during the rollover, the company said earlier.

The unit had been at reduced power for a couple of days, but then
operators decided to take the unit down as a precaution. The
plant is operated by Southern Nuclear, a unit of Southern Co.

As reported earlier Wednesday, three out of four nuclear
generating stations in the western U.S. are required by the
California Independent System Operator to cut power by up to 20%
during the year 2000 rollover.

These include PGE Corp.'s Diablo Canyon station, which has two
units each rated at 1,100-megawatt; Energy Northwest's 1,157-MW
Washington Nuclear Power station; and the three-unit Palo Verde
plant, operated by Pinnacle West Capital Corp.'s Arizona Public
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[CTRL] NZ stuff

1999-12-30 Thread Kathryn R Smith

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New Zealand Overview of incidents, maps
http://www.y2k.govt.nz/home/navigationpage.htm

Live New Zealand Radio
http://www.live-radio.net/ww_nz.shtml#New Zealand

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Re: [CTRL] K F'ing C

1999-12-30 Thread Tenorlove

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I don't know, Peter, I think your source spends too much time on the
Internet. ;-D

Tenorlove
whose husband accuses her of same snort
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Re: [CTRL] JESUS WAS JEWISH ?

1999-12-30 Thread Tenorlove

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As for Mary Magdalene, she is variously described in the Gospels as "a
sinner" and "out of whom went seven devils." Her hometown, Magdala or
Migdal, was the headquarters for an Astarte cult that had a seven-stage
initiation. Astarte's mascot, like MM's, was the dove. IF MM was a
prostitute, it would have been in connection with the sacred
prostitution which took place within the Astarte cult. If she were an
Astarte initiate, she would have been a sinner in the eyes of all four
of the Gospel writers. The prostitute tradition did not come about
until the second century A.D.

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[CTRL] National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC ADVISORY 99-031) (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:19:35 -0500
From: Alexandra H. Mulkern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

( This is an email alert that my husband's company just got from
NIPC and the FBI. It may or may not be of use to anyone.)



National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC ADVISORY 99-031)

Introduction

Large-scale U.S. infrastructure disruptions are not expected from "Y2K
failures" during the Y2K transition period.  However we are prepared for a
possible increase in real or reported criminal cyber activity (such as
hacking and spreading computer viruses), considering the heightened
awareness of and media focus on malicious activity during the Y2K period.

Any increased criminal activity during the Y2K period could raise the level
of problems in infrastructure systems, adding to genuine Y2K-generated
issues and the normal level of infrastructure concerns.  We anticipate
encountering both known and new viruses and hacking exploits.  We could see
the dissemination of several new and possibly destructive viruses, and the
successful exploitation of both corporate and government information
systems.  But even these possibilities reflect only a larger assembly of the
same kinds of malicious activity seen and addressed every day.

Finally, known and possible extremist or apocalyptic terrorist activity in
the United States by individuals or groups suggests the possibility of
threats to domestic infrastructures.  For example, the media have reported
arrests of certain individuals allegedly planning violent actions against
electric power and oil and gas facilities.  These indications of possible
threats to our infrastructures warrant an increased vigilance to protect
against both cyber and physical threats to our nation's critical
infrastructures.

Summary

The Y2K Transition might be seen by potential malefactors as an
unprecedented opportunity for malicious code release and associated
publicity, where a new and significant exploit can achieve a widespread
notoriety in the information security and hacker world.  Viruses and
exploits like Melissa and its variants, ExploreZip, Back Orifice, mobile
code, etc. reflect increasing sophistication in the use of email and
attachments, increasing variation on prior exploits, and remote access and
control of malicious code.  Additional virus activity can be expected during
the Y2K period, following the recent examples of W32.mypics, ICQ Greeting
and Babylonia.

 Distributed denial of service tools have recently been discovered on
various computer systems, creating large networks of hosts capable of
launching significant coordinated packet flooding denial of service attacks.
These tools target high bandwidth sites and connections, use readily
accessible technical vulnerabilities for installation, and reflect
suspicious installation and tool development activity.  Possible motives for
this deployment could include exploit demonstration, network systems
reconnaissance, or even preparation for major denial of service attacks.
Such attacks could take place during the Y2K period.

 Back Orifice 2000 remains a significant open-source tool easily customized
for malicious purpose; we expect that its malicious use and adaptation will
continue to increase in the future, and could be applied during the Y2K
period.

The installation of malicious code under cover of Y2K-remediation remains a
possibility, considering the numbers and scale of systems remediated for
Y2K, the significant access granted throughout computer systems and networks
for this work, and the clear, predictable window of opportunity to conduct
this action.  Such code could be activated during the transition period or
long thereafter, to allow future access to the network or to deny service.

 A number of long-known computer viruses continue to impact systems because
of inconsistent and incomplete security implementation and oversight.  The
rising attention to computer virus activity during the Y2K transition period
will likely include "discovery" and publicity of old virus problems like
Marker and Melissa.

 Harassing and malicious actions against Internet sites (such as those seen
by U.S. Government and military web sites, the WTO, commercial sites like
E-Bay and E-Toys, etc.) continues as an element of network systems activity;
these actions are increasingly common and could well be a part of the Y2K
transition and associated press coverage.

 Finally, security measures taken in preparation for Y2K or as a result of
initial Y2K problems may cause unintended consequences.  Systems may be shut
down to avert problems, only to cause a more serious operational impact than
remaining connected.  For example, the closure of network connections could
generate a significant email backlog that might generate more problems when
re-connected than if connectivity were maintained throughout.  Information
systems owners and operators must remain deliberate and logical in their
situational 

Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-30 Thread pennie hammons

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Bill, I just like to give you a hard time. Don't get your panties in a
bunch...love ya, Pennie


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 You are BOTH sexist pigs! 

Jeez Pennie!!! Was just having a bit of fun...and anyway Maggie didn't
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Re: [CTRL] to J2

1999-12-30 Thread pennie hammons

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J2, I have just one thing to say to you...EAT ME! Sincerely, Pennie


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  In a message dated 12/30/99 1:46:13 AM Central Standard Time,
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   You are BOTH sexist pigs! 
 
  Jeez Pennie!!! Was just having a bit of fun...and anyway Maggie didn't
  mind...so what's the real problem?
  Bill.

Pennie is right darnit! There are too many sexist slobs around here who
are not respectful enough of women and female body parts.

Humph!,
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[CTRL] John Huang Warned FBI of Plan to Kill Johnny Chung--NewsMax (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Thursday December 30, 10:54 AM

John Huang Warned FBI of Plan to Kill Johnny Chung
Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Star Chinagate witness Johnny Chung wants to know why the Clinton
Justice Department never warned him that Beijing had him marked
for death, despite a tip-off to the FBI about the planned rubout
from another key witness with ties to the Chinese government.

Appearing Tuesday night on Fox News Channel's "Hannity  Colmes,"
Chung complained about an incident on March 20, 1999, where the
FBI arrested an armed man inside the office of his now defunct
fax broadcasting company in what agents told him was an attempt
on his life. The gunman got within feet of the key witness before
the attack was foiled.

"I want to say that I was a little bit angry today," Chung told
Fox. "I recently got public information right here. It said John
Huang's FBI 302 report. And seriously, between February 23 to
March 26, he already talked to the FBI. The Chinese tried to kill
me."

Huang, a former employee of the Chinese-owned Lippo Group who
became a top Democratic Party fund-raiser after working at the
Clinton Commerce Department, is alleged to have laundered
millions of dollars in illgegal Chinese cash for the president's
1996 reelection.

Witnesses testifed in 1997 that Huang had access to classified
Commerce Department material, some of which he is believed to
have shared with his former Lippo bosses, Indonesia's Riady
family. James Riady is a longtime personal friend of Bill
Clinton.

While Huang has told investigators that he knows of no White
House wrongdoing in the Chinagate scandal, Chung has cooperated
fully with federal probers. He recently told NewsMax.com that he
believes President Clinton "is in the back pocket of the Chinese
government."

Documents showing that Huang had warned the FBI about Chinese
plans to kill Chung would be the first public corroboration of
the Taiwanese-American businessman's claim that his candid
testimony placed him in mortal danger.

"Right here, I want to say that why?," Chung asked Fox News
viewers. "At that time, (the FBI) already know. How come they
didn't notify me?"

In November, the star witness revealed that the March 20th
incident prompted the FBI's Los Angeles office to immediately
assign armed agents to protect Chung and his family. But within
48 hours the Clinton Justice Department overuled local FBI
officials and withdrew the security detail. (See: FBI Was
Overruled on Decision to Protect Johnny Chung)

When Chung complained to the US Attorney in Los Angeles, he was
told that if he thought he was in danger he should "call 911".

The key Chinagate witness was recently slapped with $127,000 in
new fines based on his 1998 guilty plea to fundraising abuses and
tax evasion. Chung told NewsMax.com in early December that he is
no longer allowed to publicly discuss his case without first
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[CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay

1999-12-30 Thread A.C. Szul

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FYI.
-A

 Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay


 WASHINGTON, D.C., Dec. 30 -- Business is bad. The "little guy" is always getting 
pounced on.
 Americans work too much and get paid too little. That's exactly what some suggest 
the media would
 like you to think. Everyday, whether it's network news or the local newspaper, 
business is made to
 look like the "boogeyman." Except, what's missed is that U.S. businesses and its 
employees have
 much to do with America's continued strong economic leadership in today's modern 
world.

 According to many economic and business indicators, more people today are better off 
financially
 than ever before. The Investor's Business Daily (IB Daily) recently reported that 
the credit for
 today's strong economy is due not only to the current administration, but also due 
to the economic
 policies of Ronald Reagan, and, yes, even George Bush.

 As reported by IB Daily, economist and author Brian Wesbury believes that "the past 
18 months
 marks...the longest period of noninflationary growth since the U.S. industrial 
revolution of the late
 1800s." The same paper also reports that the economy has continued to grow "ever 
since 1982
 when Reagan slashed the marginal tax rates" and former Federal Reserve Chair Paul 
Volcker "shut
 off the 70's easy money spigot."

 Even though candidate and then-President Clinton talked about being a New Democrat, 
he started
 out his presidency with an outlandish proposal, worth 15 percent of the American 
economy, and
 single-handedly dashed any hopes of holding on to the middle ground...snip

See http://www.erols.com/mack97/123099.html

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[CTRL] [BTW] Y2K World Review (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[This woman is extremely credible:(  --MS]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:49:21 -0600
From: Brenda C. Jinkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 World strides toward 2000 ... with trepidation
 Source: AFP - Agence France Presse
 Dec 30 14:55

 PARIS, Dec 30 (AFP) - The world was split Thursday between
 governments in crisis bunkers fearing millennium chaos while
 hundreds of millions of revellers braced for the party of the
 century.

 SNIP

In contrast, anecdotal, but interesting...

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That's all there is to the future.

A friend of mine returned yesterday from eastern Poland. Her
family member plays some executive part in local administration.
Their office received confidential report on the high probability
of Ukrainian nuclear mishaps this weekend. They were advised to
stock up on iodine in schools. When the guy returned home, from
office, he had tears in his eyes.


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[CTRL] Armed Anti-Terrorist Teams Sweep Into Communities Across U.S. (fwd)

1999-12-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Dec 30, 1999 - 09:58 PM

Armed Anti-Terrorist Teams Sweep Into
Communities Across U.S.
By Catherine Ivey
Associated Press Writer

BOSTON (AP) - With a police helicopter hovering overhead, FBI
agents, police, and immigration officials chased an Algerian man
through a city neighborhood Thursday.

As he was grabbed by authorities, Mouai Badredine yelled at
television cameras that he was "just a person that wanted to go
home to Algeria - that's it."

Meanwhile, in New York, heavily armed anti-terrorist teams were
raiding a working class Brooklyn neighborhood to arrest another
man.

"It was total chaos. There were SWAT teams, bomb sniffing dogs.
They were all here," said Joe VanDusky Jr., 25, who was just
arriving for work at an electrical supply store around the corner.

In cities from Boston to San Francisco, dozens of people were
detained Thursday in a nationwide sweep by federal agents trying
to build a case against Algerian Ahmed Ressam, arrested in
Washington state earlier this month and charged with smuggling
explosives into the country from Canada on Dec. 14.

Ramiro Escudero, an FBI spokesman in Los Angeles, said the
people being questioned there were those officials believed might
have information about Ressam.

"It does not mean they are involved in any terrorist activities," he
said.

A spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based American-Arab
Anti-Discrimination Committee said authorities were overreacting
to the possibility of terrorism and are treating some people
differently because of their ethnicity.

"We've sort of passed over from the stage of heightened vigilance
into the stage where people's ethnic identity becomes suspect in
and of itself," said Hussein Ibish. "People of Arab ethnicity who are
being held on routine visa violations - the most mundane types of
arrest - are being treated as potential terrorists."

Some of the individuals questioned were arrested on immigration
charges.

Badredine, 24, was one of five men arrested in Boston. He and two
others were held on civil charges related to their immigration
status; two were arrested on criminal charges, including having
false green cards and illegal entry into the United States,
according to federal officials.

The man arrested in Brooklyn, Abdel Ghani, was charged with
concealing his material support for Ressam. A criminal complaint
alleges he traveled to Seattle to meet with Ressam and had
planned to help him raise money.

Three other men detained during the Brooklyn raid were
questioned by authorities to establish their immigration status. It
was unclear if any of them would be charged with a crime,
authorities said.

New York and Boston officials said no specific threats had been
made, but that the operation was part of an aggressive campaign
to protect against terrorism.

"The FBI, in concert with other federal state and local law
enforcement agencies is aggressively pursuing all information and
leads we received in hopes of preventing any potential acts of
violence," said special agent Barry Mawn, who is in charge of the
FBI's Boston office.


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