Re: [CTRL] Cosmic Awareness speaks 1

2000-02-03 Thread ali andrew

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hi eartthperson,

this is great stuff. As you know I am in Waco and have been studying the
Waco Indians in my efforts to find answers to the Holocaust of the
Davidians. One of the mysteries concerning these people is what happen to
them. Where did they go? Well Chief BOWELS who staged the 1828 massacre of
the waco's for Steve Austin, said that he could not defeat the WACOS BECAUSE
THEY HAD A HOLE THEY WOULD GO INTO . HE REPORTS THAT THE OPENNING WAS SMALL,
BUT INSIDE IT WAS HUGE AND CAVERN LIKE. THE ENTERANCE TO THIS CAVERN WAS AT
8TH AND COLUMBUS STS DOWN TOWN WACO this CAVERN WAS ALSO THEIR TEMPLE. TODAY
IT IS A TEMPLE TOO. IT IS LODGE #86 THE THE GRAND LODGE OF THE MASONS OF
TEXAS!

ANDREW

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Subject: [CTRL] Cosmic Awareness speaks 1


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Whoa, what a read.
Peter

Subject: Further News About The Grand Canyon Temple.Feb. 1, 2000.

  In the past I have posted information about the discovery of a temple
in the Grand Canyon.  I also posting items from  a lady called Mysty
Moon who went into this temple a few years ago.  Now there is some
information from an intelligence called The COSMIC AWARENESS that I
will post at this time.  The information it puts out is channeled
material.  Some people hate channeled material.  Some people don't
like for me to make the statement, "This is channeled material so be
careful."  Other people hate the writing of the COSMIC AWARENESS
because it repeats the statement, COSMIC AWARENESS: This Awareness
indicates."  If one or all of these things upset you then please
don't read this material.

.
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COSMIC AWARENESS SECTION:




  That is the story that appeared in the Phoenix Gazette, April 5,
1909. Would Awareness comment on that and whether basically the
information is true?

COSMIC AWARENESS:
  This Awareness indicates the information is correct. This Awareness
has previously discussed underground caverns that run throughout
the earth. This Awareness indicates that this civilization was a
remnant of that which has been termed Lemurian civilization: The
Lemurian civilization being essentially in the Pacific as its own
origin, and it had some spreading in the direction of the present
area referred to as the Oriental world.
  There is also an opening in these underground caverns in Egypt;
that Atlantis contained an opening into these underground caverns
and that they do connect into Tibet and that which is called
Shamballah. This Awareness indicates that many of these underground
caverns or what may be termed "underground highways" have been blocked
although many areas are open.
  This Awareness indicates that some of these also go down into South
America.
  This Awareness indicates that the entities, the American Indians,
particularly the Hopi, are descendants of entities who once lived in
these underground caverns. This Awareness indicates it has been
theorized that the American Indians have an origin in the China or
Asian continent. This Awareness suggests that the theory is that they
came across the area of Alaska.
  This Awareness wishes to suggest, however, that some of these
entities came through tunnels that went beneath the Pacific to
Lemuria, of which the Hawaiian islands are a part, and on to the
North American continent. This Awareness indicates that these
underground caverns were once part of a great world civilization
that included high technology from extraterrestrial civilizations.

   How the Great Flood Was Created

  The Titans, the Atlans, the Lemurians and many others of the time
did travel underground through these subterranean fields or caverns
and also had space travel. Much of this was destroyed after the
conflicts that occurred in what may be termed a kind of space war or
extraterrestrial war, when the firmament was likewise destroyed and
that great flood was created. The flood was created from the melting
of the polar caps through the use of certain extraterrestrial
technologies.
  Earth Changes Split Huge Cavern In Two This Awareness indicates
that the Grand Canyon was a schism that occurred from the result of
enormous earth shifts and broke apart a cavern that went through
this area. If one could examine the opposite side of the canyon,
downstream, one could find the continuance of this cavern, except
that the canyon has been sealed from the shifts of the rocks and the
movement of the plates so that it is not directly opposite the wall
of the canyon. This Awareness indicates that it does carry on from the
shearing-off action of the Grand Canyon, where the walls were the
result of a shift and 

[CTRL] LAMB LIKE BEAST

2000-02-03 Thread ali andrew
Title: Why the Waco Holocaust Matters




THE 
CLINTON MURDERS OF WACO AND THOSE THAT ARE HELPING THE COVER-UP 
SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THESE FACES FOR ONE DAY SOON THEY WILL SEE THEM AND BE 
ASHAMED FOREVER MORE. 







Why the Waco Holocaust Matters




Jennifer Andrade, age 21 at death.


Melissa Morrison, age 6 at 
death.
Among those who died during the Waco Holocaust.

When barbarities are practiced by a government, civilized people must stand 
up and say STOP! lest the whole society be consumed by barbarism. 
Over the cornice of the US Supreme Court these words are etched: 

Equal Justice Under LawTo fair-minded Americans, those words 
apply to both the Branch Davidians and their murderers. 
As a society, we do not let murderers go free, for experience shows they will 
murder again. Under a system of equal justice, when physical and circumstantial 
evidence indicates a person has committed a crime, he or she is indicted and 
brought before a jury. So it should be: one rule of law for all. 
The American Revolution specifically rejected the concept of the Divine Right 
of Kings. The American revolutionaries believed that legitimate political power 
arose from each and every individual person, and was delegated by them to 
government. The government was to be a servant of the people. Under this system, 
servants of the people (the government) have no Divine Right to murder their 
employers (the citizens). 
Thomas Jefferson said that the tree of liberty is nourished by the blood of 
tyrants and the blood of patriots. We citizens of the US will not be intimidated 
into silence or acquiescence. We are the inheritors of the American Revolution. 
By this crime, the US government proclaimed itself to be the enemy of the 
people. When the executive branch of government turns to murdering the citizens, 
what redress do the citizens have? Who will arrest and try a murderous general, 
and who will arrest and try a murderous attorney general? 
Congress could have taken a number of immediate remedial actions. It could 
have conducted an honest, vigorous investigation. It could have immediately 
reduced funding to the agencies involved by the amount spent. It could have 
disbanded the units involved, fired the personnel, and prohibited them evermore 
from federal benefits and employment. It could have impeached the military and 
civilian officials involved; it could have seen that a Special Prosecutor was 
appointed, and vigorous prosecutions conducted. 
When the Congressional hearings on Waco took place in the summer of 1995, 
many Americans hoped that an honest investigation would be done. But Congress 
suppressed the evidence and became accessories to the crime. 
For less evidence than you see on these pages, ordinary people are convicted 
and sentenced to death. After World War II, the Allies prosecuted defeated 
Germans for alleged crimes against German citizens. What hypocrisy makes 
the world community turn its face from the American crimes against the Branch 
Davidians? 
Six years after the atrocity, not one of the murderers has been 
indicted. Americans no longer live under the rule of law. That is 
why Americans are arming themselves, to protect their families against the 
outlaws, whether the outlaws wear the uniforms of the US military or law 
enforcement. 
Look at the evidence against the US military and law enforcement. We have 
documented their outrageous lies. We have the evidence of their murders. We have 
the autopsy reports, we have photos of the twisted bodies, of the tortured, 
gassed, mutilated, and burned. 
Righteous people of the world: Look! You are the jury. Look at our shame! 
Next: How to Tour the Museum 
Home: Museum Entrance 



Alert! Yet another attempt to cover up the the Waco Holocaust. Read about the 
new hoax documentary, Waco: The Rules of 
Engagement in the Museum's Burial Gallery. 


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1

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@ Entropy: http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/pessimism/entropy.html
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# Can time reverse? IN a distant galaxy, a star unexplodes. Just moments ago
  a shell of tortured matter was flying together at 30,000 km/sec. Now it
  has become a star; the last shreds of glowing debris are being sucked in.
  With the explosion undone, the star begins the long journey back to the
  time when it will be unborn into the gas  dust of an interstellar cloud.
  Theorists say that regions where time flows in the normal direction can
  coexist with regions where it flows backwards. There may be places, even
  within our Galaxy, where stars unexplode, eggs unbreak and living things
  grow younger with every second. http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9314379

: Do you prefer time moving forward, backwards, sideways, spiraling, other?
What's your favorite temporal axis? Have you shifted time modes lately? Did
you need to move to a different region of space? Is everything weird there?

@ Has Science Found God? http://www.phys.hawaii.edu/vjs/www/anthro_philo.pdf
# Weak interaction helps locate strange quark in proton structure:
  http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/uil-wih020200.html
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@ UFOS AND THE BIBLE. Aliens : Angels or Demons? It's incremental acclimat-
  ization from THEM! The book of the Jubilees remarks that Jared or Yeh-red
  http://biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/?id=03382, an Old Testament
  patriarch, was so called because in his days the angels descended upon the
  earth - Yaw-rad http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/?id=03381
  "descend". It is interesting to note that "Jordan" comes from that same
  root word denoting "descent, coming down or falling" - Yar-dane "the place
  of the descent" http://biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Hebrew/?id=03383.
  Jordan, "place of the descent", is located in the ancient boundary of
  Israel. Israel is currently a major location for sighting UFOs, and the
  fallen angels in disguise as "aliens". http://mt.net/~watcher/ufos.html

: Are your favorite deities all alien entities? Where are they from? What do
they want here? Are they incrementally acclimating us? How far along are we?
Are we/they descending, ascending, jitterbugging, masturbating, aestivating?

# Israeli Roswell: The "Achihod Alien"
  http://www.parascope.com/articles/0297/alienin.htm
# NEW UPDATE 'Historic' New NASA UFO Shuttle Footage With
  'Stark ET Evidence' http://www.sightings.com/ufo6/stark.htm
@ Red Sprites and Blue Jets: http://elf.gi.alaska.edu/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Crash-a-Rama: (minimal)

# Alaska Air Jet's Tail May Have Malfunctioned Before - search abandoned:
  http://apbnews.com/newscenter/breakingnews/2000/02/02/crash0202pma_01.html
# Second 'black box' sought: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9316708
# Alaska Air Denies Problems: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9316635
# Another Stabilizer Problem: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9313989
# American Air MD-80 jet reports stabilizer problem, returns to airport -
  same model as Alaska Air: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9314412
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The End of the Nation-State: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/story/90.html
# China Preparing For War With US. Strategic writings by China's military
  and party leaders show that China is making plans for war, according to a
  new Pentagon study. Some 600 translations of internal Chinese writings by
  200 authors reveal China's strategy to defeat a superior foe, using both
  military and nonmilitary means, such as propaganda, deception and covert
  action. http://www.washtimes.com/national/nation3-02022000.htm

# China cracks down on Internet cafes. (BBC) Shanghai closes 127 unlicensed
 Internet cafes  seized computers in the 4th raid by cops since last April.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_628000/628432.stm

: Can/should/will China conquer the world with deceit, computers, assassins,
mind-control devices cleverly built into cheap toys, huge armies, ideology,
commercial expertise, nuclear/biological/chemical weaponry, sexual devices?

# Also: Online boom for China:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_609000/609971.stm
# Can governments control the Internet?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_623000/623339.stm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Hogs'R'Us:

# Groundhog forecasts more winter - marketers flog old German superstition:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_628000/628685.stm

@ Day of Shadow: 

Re: [CTRL] MANNA FROM HEAVEN

2000-02-03 Thread nessie

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

the taste of it was like wafers made with

honey(l6: 31)



Have you ever eaten a psilocybe mushroom? Like wafers with honey it ain't.
Trust me.

Here's another guess:

http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/science/chalice.html


It's probably wrong too, but hey, who knows? Stranger things have happened.

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Re: [CTRL] MANNA FROM HEAVEN

2000-02-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 01/31/2000 8:31:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Prudy,
Please read "Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Velikovsky. He covers
 the subject on Manna thoroughly. 

I rather think he does too.  Prud

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Re: [CTRL] important scottish x-file

2000-02-03 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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Hi Andrew,
I have for the last three years been studying X. It is closely related to
the Clinton Murders in Waco. Would you like to know how?

x always marks the spot - if you know why  please tell  :)

regards,
Andrew



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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2

2000-02-03 Thread Ric Carter

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# Weird Ape Fouls Planet: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/story/73.html
# Americans may not be the brightest bulbs to ever walk the earth, nor
  the most tasteful nor literate, says Jeremy Lott. But they *are* the
  fattest: http://www.americanpartisan.com/cols/lott/012200.htm [burp]

# The End of the Brain: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/story/52.html
@ THE SINGULARITY - Within 25 years, we'll have the technological means
  to create superhuman intelligence. Shortly thereafter, the human era will
  end. http://www.alamut.com/subj/evolution/progress/vinge_singularity.html

: D'ya prefer to be fat in body, mind, soul? What's your favorite gluttony?
Will you become a blob, a hive-brain [possibly Borg], an angel, an ant? Can
these be differentiated? Do future prospects for humanity worry you? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# CIA chief testifies in Deutch probe. WASHINGTON (AP) CIA Director George
  Tenet sez there is no evidence that classified material improperly kept on
  former director John Deutch's home computer fell into the wrong hands via
  the Net. But "We cannot exclude that possibility. He was sloppy in what he
  did." http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563832366-94f

# Too Dumb to Snoop -- So Far. (Wired) Major record labels could be some of
  the most powerful privacy violators on the Web, if they weren't so inept.
  Corporate clowns: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,34015,00.html
$ Purchase (discounted) brains: http://www.brains4zombies.com/

: Have you purposefully/accidentally leaked any national/personal/commercial
secrets lately? Are you sloppy, inept, preoccupied, spaced-out? Are ET alien
implants interfering with your concentration, job-performance, sex-life? Eh?

@ For people without enough time to watch cartoons, there's Reduced Anime.
  http://www.asu.edu/studentprgms/orgs/them/Anime/Reduced/ Next: The Rush
  Limbaugh http://rush.digitalchainsaw.com/theatre.htm Excellence in
  Babbling Audio Theatre. Both via http://www.memepool.com/
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# You can't clone everything - Some animals may be genetically
  "unclonable" - http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2224191
# It's a minefield - The battle over genetically modified organisms has
  only just begun: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2224192
@ Self-Replicating Molecules and the Meaning of Life:
  http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/crt/ghadiri.htm

: Have you cloned anything unusual lately? Are you self-replicating? Are you
copy-protected? Should all life be copy-protected? Who'd collect royalties?

# Leave the Yeti alone! Chinese government cites environmental concerns;
  $60,000 award left unrewarded.  The Chinese government has put an end
  to hunts for the Yeti, the Asian version of the Abominable Snowman:
  http://www.salon.com/travel/planet/2000/02/01/yeti/index.html
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# German Green leader may be charged. FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) - Prosecutors
  want to lift the legal immunity of Greens leader Daniel Cohn-Bendit, who
  could face charges for aiding a terrorist linked to Carlos the Jackal.
  Cohn-Bendit, known as Danny the Red since his days as a leader of a 1968
  Paris student revolt, has immunity from prosecution as a Euro Parliament
  member. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563823492-6a5

: Have you aided any terrorists lately? Are you a terrorist? What conspiracy
pays y'r bills? What real cause is your terrorism meant to distract us from?

@ THE SECRET DOCTRINES OF THE ASSASSINS:
  http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/alamut/secDoctrines.html
@ The Assassins: http://alamut.com/subj/ideologies/alamut/bey_Ass.html
# Kosovo parallel gov't dissolved - thrown into vat of sulfuric acid:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563827489-601
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# Letting Silicon-Chip Implants Do the Talking. Over in England, a nutty
  prof plans to hook his central nervous system to his computer. He thinks
  it might improve his sex life and maybe even save mankind from becoming
  slaves to machines. He's touting his scheme in an essay called "I, Robot"
  the cover story in this month's Wired, a mag that can be trusted to go
  gaga over any cockamamie utopian idea, as long as it involves computers.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-02/01/068l-020100-idx.html

: D'ya think the writer of the above blurb is envious because he's not part
of the future? Is he exhibiting Silicon Envy? Should he see a 

[CTRL] Hindenberg

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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Okay..let us say I had a Kung Fu Flashback; but there was always
something about the Hindenberg the way it burst into flames, and helium
of course caught afire.but it was said the cause was static
electricity.

There is also stuff on the web about this problem relatiang to
airplanes, maybe even the Flight 880 they spoke of fuel lines blowing up
etc.

Now we are getting into this HAARP and microwaves in the sky.and you
know I am just layman, but yesterday warmed up a sandwich for my son in
my microwave, and it was in a bagbut in the bag the sandwich was
wrapped in foil under a fine tissues coverso lightning galore in my
microwavestill works, but I sure as heck would not have liked to
have been in with that sandwich, for it was electrocuted.

Now, the Challenger.the day it blew up they say KGB controlled
Russian trawlers abruptly left the scene.never did stuff like that
before, but these are spy ships and evidently they expected
somethinghope Madeline Albright realizes her good friend KGB Putin
with whom she now breaks bread and praises (big surprise) is aware of
the fact that KGB was most certainly involved in sabotage of our space
program.remember too the Walker Spies?   Formed KKK and KGB sent out
rotten literature making it look like work of KKK?   Like maybe Osam bin
Laden gets blamed for lots of stuff Mossad does?

So anyway, the day of the funeral of the Challenger victims, I decided
to walk down the block from where I worked near Broad and High, to St.
Joseph's Cathedralbeautiful cathredalquiet...yet simple and very
few of these beautiful cathredrals left.

Right before entering St. Josephs, the ground shook and big
booms.now I recognized his of course as sonic booms, for it was our
USAF giving a not so silent tribute to the Challenger.when in St.
Joseph's I went to their underground shop which looks like an old wine
cellar in a Monk's Garden.I bought this little picture of Jesus
Christ, and he is giving someone the Mojonow this is a very famous
painting from the Byzantine period, but I thought it was funny, the Mojo
and a Jewelled Book..

Went back to work,  and as I got of the elevator, the receptionist was
there and I said look..I handed her this wooden Icon, and she
received the shock of her life..we both wondered about that, but I
often get so charged up once I almost floored a lawyer with a
look...

How could a wooden icon, no metal on it, cause such a jolt and static
shock

The picture was painted .blue robe, beautiful complexion, and the
jewelled copy of the book to this day, keep thinking of the jewelled
copy of Rubyait aboard Titanicwonder from whom someone stile
thatbut covered with rubies?   Anyone ever sent me that book, like
they did Marilyn Monroe, I would hit the deck and head for the hills
later.

So it had to be the paint, metallic based paint...

In the web here they have something called stabilizer paint for corroded
this or that..

What I am trying to say is this, if this wooden Icon used metallic based
paint,  and some of these planes are corroding..could paint cause a
static electric charge if skies into HARP to produce a charge strong
enough to set instruments berserk?   When they say microwaves in the
sky, they got to be kidding..I cook in microwave oven..but no
aluminum..so they paint some of this aluminu;m stuff, and you can
put in microwave...but what if corrosion has set in..static
electricity and like Hindenburg the fuel caugh afire and the planes, the
fuel lines explode?

Stabilizer paint...highest thing on a magnetized field is usually
hit by lightning, etc., for even on football fields the lighting systems
hopefully have lightning rods.

So..where are the great brains that left me sitting in chemistry
class with my teacher mad and holes in his suit from being splattered
with something I mixed up in error..

How did I give this woman an electrical jolt by handing her a wooden
Icon of Jesus giving someone the Mojo..had to be the paint,
rightfor it was trimmed in a dull gold paint..think made in
Spain

They said this plane was corroded; that means paint not covered and
aluminum shows and I had fireworks in my microwave from such a
thing..talking about an electrical stormpaper not burnt,sandwich
okaybut if I had been cooking a lobster it would have been
electocuted, and not nuff of that.how can anyone look at those
lobsters playing in the supermarket and then take them home life, kill t
hem, and eat them

Corrosion.HAARP..artificial lightniong...laster beams and all
this made by the Village Idiots who did not plan or people flying in the
skies?

Know of anybody you do not like getting on an airplane?   Well by now
murder inc. has a line on this already for a price, and we know who
murder inc. is.

Challenger 

[CTRL] Fwd: [firebase-news] U.S. boards Russian oil tanker

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

So they let Madelline Albright get out of Russia before they searched
Iraq ships?

The UN says Iraq cannot sell their oil?  By what authority?  Albright
and the KGB and it was just yesterday she was telling everyone what a
wonderful man Putin was?

Does anyone really think Sadaam Hussein or the Kings of the Arab Nations
are going to be pushed around much longer?

What were US ships doing in International Waters searching
ships..what is the jurisdiction of our Navy Department -they can
search but not seize?

Who the hell does this UN think they are when we know this is  war
between Zionists directed towards Christians, Moslems, and
Militiamen.

ADL reporting to the FBI with Morris Dees Souther 70 Million Dollar
Poverty Law Center putting people on hate lists?

FBI breaking bread with KGB and Albright praising KGB..and of course
Kissinger has been KGB for years and in with Mossad.these are
masonic orders, flying different flagsbut when in Rome, do as the
Romans.

Do these Zionists actually think they will contiue to provoke wars while
USA is then "hired" to murder people of Iraqwhat did they do to the
USAall this because Zionists want control of the oil?

I say this, Arabs can get along well without all that oil; they also
have all those oil fields ready to blow if Zionists ever use force to
attempt to steal.

Zionists come in many colors, but I prefer to remember the words of
Jesus Christ when he said "beware of those who say they are jews and are
not".for these are the evil ones, the Rothschillds who profitted
from world war IIalways always ask cui bono..

55 million people died in World War II.what do Zionists want now -
well, they will never let up until through the NWO they control the
worldthis handful of traitors to the USA, the country which gave
them a home...in bed with the enemyalways have been, and always
will be.

For Communism is just another opium dream of the Zionists.now
called globalism.going to have to change that name too.but that
UN flag flies inAmerica and should be shot down.



Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**






 U.S. boards Russian oil tanker

 Ship suspected
 of smuggling
 Iraqi oil
 The Russian ship hugged the coast as it traveled southeast to 
Al Fujayrah.


 NBC NEWS

 WASHINGTON, Feb. 2 —  The U.S. Navy boarded a Russian ship in 
international waters Wednesday, accusing it of smuggling Iraqi oil in 
violation of U.N. resolutions. It was the first time a Russian ship has 
been boarded since the U.S. and British navies began their anti-smuggling 
patrols after the Gulf war.




  NBC News has learned that the Navy waited until Albright’s plane left 
Moscow before boarding the ship.

  THE USS MONTEREY intercepted and boarded the Russian-flagged 
oil tanker Volgoneft in international waters just outside the Persian Gulf, 
U.S. officials told NBC News.
  U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News that oil smuggling 
out of Iraq has risen dramatically since last August. In that time, the 
price of oil has also risen dramatically, making such trade more lucrative. 
U.S. officials estimate that 130 shiploads of Iraqi oil — 317,000 metric 
tons — was smuggled out in December alone, earning an estimated $65 million 
in profits.
  The sale of Iraqi oil has been severely limited ever since 
Baghdad’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990 prompted the United Nations to impose 
sanctions on Saddam’s regime.
  The Volgoneft was in the Gulf of Oman, off the coast of the 
United Arab Emirates, when it was intercepted. The ship is one of two 
Russian-flagged tankers that have been operating in the Gulf for the past 
several weeks, under the observation of the U.S. Navy.
  The United States officially warned the Russian government 
last week about the tankers and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright again 
raised the issue when she spoke with Russia’s foreign minister in Moscow on 
Monday, NBC News has learned. After the tankers remained in the Gulf, a 
U.S. Navy team boarded the ship Wednesday. The oil the tanker was carrying 
is now being tested to confirm suspicions that it is Iraqi crude.

   If the oil is found to be contraband, the United Nations 
will then offer it up for sale to the highest bidder, a process that could 
take weeks — in part because of the political stigma attached to it.
  While under some circumstances, the United Nations could also 
confiscate the ship, experts told NBC News that would be highly unusual for 
a “first-time offender.”

   DIPLOMATIC WORRIES
  U.S. Navy ships deliberately waited for an opportune time to 
intercept the Russian tankers. “We know what they’re doing,” said one 
official. 

[CTRL] Fwd: CURSE OF HERODS GOLD - Web of Gold

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan


In a message dated 2/3/00 2:54:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:






A most interesting book, that I couldn't put down for a couple of days, I 
followed up by getting "Massacre at Oradour", which certainly gives a new 
insight into the event.
This review, although interesting, doesn't do the book justice at all.
-Roger

=

"CURSE OF HERODS GOLD"
by Peter Donnelly

Torture, heretics burned alive, a Nazi massacre and a 2,000-year trail of 
greed and intrigue still haven't solved one of the greatest mysteries of 
history: Where is the fabulous treasure hoard of the Temple of Jerusalem!

Of all the legends of huge hidden hoards of wealth. I none has attracted as 
much sustained interest as that of the priceless haul looted nearly 2,000 
years ago from the Temple of Jerusalem.

Men have been tortured, slaughtered even burned alive by those greedy for 
it's wealth and power, and around it has been spun a web of scandal and 
intrigue subterfuge and deception, drawing in monarchs and monks, secret 
occult societies, a famous film star and a pool parish priest who became 
suddenly rich.

The fabled treasure was desperately sought by Adolf Hitler's henchmen in 
the dying days of the war, and may have sparked an appalling massacre, 
which still haunts France.

And, in more recent years, it is said to have ensnared a British 
businessman - one of the co-authors of an intriguing new book about the 
treasure - in a nightmare of interrogation and imprisonment.

The story begins less than 40 years after the Crucifixion, when Roman 
legions attacked Jerusalem and the Temple, built by King Herod on the site 
of the Temple of Solomon. They are reputed to have taken away tons of gold, 
silver, precious gems and priceless sacred treasures.

The haul was held in Rome's imperial treasury, with wealth looted from an 
over the world, until the city fell in AD410 to invading barbarians, the 
Visigoths, heralding the disintegration of the Roman Empire.

The Visigoths set off further west, establishing a kingdom occupying most 
of modern Spain and South-West France, with its capital at Toulouse and one 
of its fortified centres of power at Rhedae, now the charming hilltop 
visage of Rennes-le-Chateau in the Pyrenees.

It is here, legend claims, that the Temple treasure is buried in ancient 
mines, subterranean galleries and an extensive network of caves - and it is 
not the only fabulous fortune believed to be hidden in the region.

Queen Blanche of Castille, regent of France in the mid-13th century, is 
said to have moved much of the royal wealth from Paris to Rennes because of 
the growing power of her nobles.

Meanwhile, such was the greed for the fabled Temple treasure that two 
distinct religious groups were suspected of keeping the secret of its 
whereabouts.

In 1244, Crusaders cornered the heretic Cathars, a religious sect condemned 
by the Church, on the mountaintop of Montsegur not far from Rennes, in the 
name of defending 'orthodox' Christianity, but more probably to try to find 
the treasure. The Cathars refused to reveal their secret and were burned alive.


More horror came in 1307 when King Philip IV had warrior-monks of the 
Knights Templar order tortured and killed in a vain attempt to discover the 
source of the wealth they had inexplicably amassed.

But the treasures remained uncovered until just over 100 years ago, when 
the sudden lavish pending of a village priest triggered an upsurge of 
interest in the area, and a virtual industry of mystery and speculation.

When the Abbe Berenger Sauniere arrived in his parish of Rennes in 1885, 
the once mighty Visigoth fortress was a small neglected village of 300 souls.

He borrowed money for repairs to the dilapidated church of St Mary 
Magdalene, and fell deeply debt to local tradesmen.

Then, after apparently finding a tomb containing a pot of gold coins 
(worthless medallions, he told workmen) and a small parchment in a glass 
vial, the once poor priest completed work on the church and created a 
magnificent private estate, with a luxurious, finely furnished villa and 
ornamental gardens. He lived, and spent, like a lord, said villagers, and 
entertained visitors with lavish hospitality.

His bishop demanded to know the source of his new-found wealth, but 
Sauniere declined to answer. He refused to move to another parish and was 
suspended, but villagers still attended his services at the villa.

Even when the Church authorities tried to confiscate his property they 
failed. Everything was held in the name of the priest's housekeeper, Marie 
Denarnaud and so could not be touched.

Eventually, the battle of wills took its toll on Sauniere's health and he 
died of a heart attack in 1917. He was given the Last Rites by an old 
priest friend, who was said to have been so shocked by Sauniere's last 
confession that he became a changed man.

Villagers had no doubt that their priest had stumbled across a fortune - a 
theory supported when - Marie 

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2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan





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DIVFONT face=Arial size=2There is a "billionaires club" and they usually 
only play on rigged roulette wheels but possess the necessary clout to make sure 
all the wheels in town are rigged, anyway.nbsp;nbsp;I think dope and guns 
account for onlynbsp;part of their total operations. The bigger gamenbsp;is 
the global financial markets.nbsp; Playing them ultimately amounts to the same 
thing as drinking at the public trough as national treasuries are often 
lightened in the process - for example, thenbsp;Long Term Capital Management 
story.nbsp; This outfit needed almost four billion units of money-blood from 
the Wall Street ER to keep it breathing because with only $2.2 billion in assets 
it had accumulated $1.25 trillion exposure giving a leverage of about 568:1 
(which means it must have owned a gold card at the very least!).nbsp; It was 
"rescued" (to use the Fed's euphemism for an event that almost caused a systemic 
collapse of the global financial system) in September 1998.nbsp; In December 
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  DIVBR/DIV"When all the small players are stripped away what will 
  probably be found is a small pack of billionaires in a feeding frenzy at the 
  public trough." 
  PWould anyone like to pursue this line of inquiry?nbsp; I have turned up 
  Carl Lindner and defined his length and breath.nbsp; Who are the other 
  billionaires involved in this feeding frenzy?nbsp; George Bush for 
  sure.nbsp; Who else Hopsicker? 
  PIn is only when one examines the "small pack of billionaires" concept that 
  one approaches an understanding of what motivates the drug and weapons trade. 
  PBrian Downing Quig BRnbsp; 
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PCarl Lindner is quite simply the largest financial beneficary of the 
contra war.nbsp; It is essential for you to know this.nbsp; You can learn 
it right here A 
href="http://www.dcia.com/straw.html"http://www.dcia.com/straw.html/Anbsp; 
I do not see any evidence that list members have gotten this point. 
PLet me illuminate the landscape here in Arizona.nbsp; After Charlie 
Keating bit the bag for passing out 2.5 billion dollars to locals here Carl 
Lindner purchased Channel 10 and teamed up with Rupert Murdock. (Talk about 
an unholy drug alliance!!)nbsp;nbsp; Channel 10 news has more physical 
resoruces than all the rest of the news organizations combined.nbsp; Rupert 
Murdock owns 50% of the FIRST INSTERSTATE BANK BUILDING where Harry 
Rosensweig had his offices.nbsp; In addition to owning pravately UNITED 
BRANDS Lindner owns some very large percent of the CIRCLE K CORPORATION. 
PCarl Lindner owned 7 Samp;Ls that went stinko.nbsp; His name was not 
mentioned in connection to the scandal.nbsp; That is real power.nbsp; If 
anyone wants to ask did anyone learn a lesson from the justice metted out by 
the iran/contra committeenbsp; I would have to refer them to Carl Lindner. 
PDispite the televised congressional investigation one must recognize that 
the contra program was a resounding success for the CIA and its backers. 
PBrian Downing Quig 
PCatherine Austin Fitts wrote: 
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  PIf what is going on at HUD is relevant, Dan, you want to follow the 
  Lindner BRlead. According to Stu Webb he is one of six nationwide 
  BRcomptrollers/financial fraud centers. My guess is that Stu is right on 
  this BRone. 
  P-Original Message- BRFrom:nbsp;nbsp; Linda Minor [A 
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[CTRL] OEN 2/3/00

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
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Federal Reserve


Greenspan's Grind


Interest rates: Up, up, and away.

This is just the beginning. Though the Federal Reserve has now raised
interest rates four times in just over six months, it is still behind the
curve. Indeed, the only plausible reason why the Fed increased rates by a
quarter rather than half a point yesterday is that a larger increase might
have encouraged investors to believe its work was done, thus driving down
bond yields and stoking the economic boom - the very last thing Alan
Greenspan wants.

He is right to be concerned: the US economy is not slowing down. Nominal
gross domestic product roared ahead at a 7.9 per cent annual pace between the
third and fourth quarters of last year. Consumer spending, business
investment and the housing market all remain buoyant. And after a
miraculously low performance, inflation is at last beginning to creep up. The
most recent gross domestic product data showed the core personal consumption
deflator rising to an annualised 2.1 per cent, from an average 1.3 per cent
over the previous 21/2 years.

The trouble is that, given spectacular equity returns, last year's modest
interest rate rises have proved ineffective in slowing demand. The Fed
therefore needs to see a sizeable decline in share prices before it can be
sure inflation risks have been capped. Since its only weapon is monetary
policy, this suggests that rates will have to keep rising until the market
bubble bursts. A more hawkish Fed, determined to keep a lid on inflation at
any cost, should be good for bonds: and indeed, Treasuries have staged a
mini-rally over the past two weeks. But it is a miserable prospect for
stocks.
The Financial Times, February 3, 2000
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
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Amen.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CURSE OF HERODS GOLD - Web of Gold

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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So this is a rather timely article.the Icon I have of Jesus Christ
from a painting done during the Byzantine period.

Now I had a friend who was a lawyer, who was jewish; we used to see who
could give each other the mojo first..one day I got him good and he
fell over the end of a chairhowever, I showed him that little Icon
of Jesus holding the jewelled copy of the Rubyait.and giving someone
the MOJO.

He only said "only you would notice that"that was all..he had a
great sense of humor.

So they speak of the gold and treasures stolen from Herod..wonder if
that painting does not hold a few secrets.

I keep thinking of the jewelled copy of the Rubyait by Omar
Kayaam...one of the three.he  was he poet, who hooked up to the
politican candidate who hooked up to the assassinsthe pact of the
three they called it...they used hash to get what they wanted, to
send out programmed killers to do their evil deedsso Hassan would be
put on throne...update,  the news media, candidate for president,
and the assassins to pave the way for anyone who gets in his way.And
drugs galore these days.even Gore had trouble getting through the
poppy fields on way to OZ.

So what would Jesus - this man who had no earthly possessions of value -
no gold, no silver, no rings and things..why would someone paint him
giving someone the Mojo holding a jewelled copy of a book?   Covered
with rubies.

Well this Titanic went down with that jewelled copy of the
Rubyait.it looked like the book in the picture painted during
Byzantine period.

Not too long ago, a Mafiaso was buried in a solid silver casket.talk
about buried treasure and who says you can't take it with you..no
taxes on that one.

So, let us call the pyramids the Federal Reserve System and they have
all that gold stashed away..and when I look at that picture of Jesus
giving someone the Mojo and the Jewelled book.I wonder who the
artist was...someone like who was that guy with the sense of humor
who painted the Mona Lisa.the I've got a secret smile?What was
that guys name, he never finished anything he started but was a genius?

Remember Snow White and the Seven Dwarfsworking in diamond mines?
For whom did they work?   No wonder Prince Charming married into that
tribe.

So..where is Herods Goldwell I do know the bible carefully
records all its gold, just like the treasury department..and when
you add that up in American Money...boy, I mean big money.

The English like to bury their money and gold in water, always
did.and remember Mel Fischer's ship off Key West bringing up all
that goldfirst ship sank dy before the "big haul"...two ships, they
were partners (was that Luke 5 or 8)  so Angela Fischer and her handsome
husband died, and later the Navy Department loosed a missile on Mel's
second ship...but he brought up the gold...

Ever hear of the Rockefellers art collections.lots of pornography
and stolen art I understand..

But this pearl of great pricewhat was that

It is strange one man stands out in my mind, who saved something so
priceless from the Communists and returned it to the museum from which
it was stolen

Tlhe Spear of Phineas - which was also carried by Charlemagne,  and
throughout history this Spear traveled with the speed of light until it
became known as the Spear of Longinus.the Spear which pierced the
side of Christ.Hitler held this spear and felt its
power...George Patton knew its power and knew that if held in the
wrong hands, it could destroy the world and he alone took this spear
which he preferred to all the gold that was stolen, and returned
it...he also knew the power of the spear would backfire upon those
who used it for evil..check out NATOand the Balkans..these
men with such power?

So what happened to the gold; well we all know really who got the
gold..but they may have power with this gold, but to date,no
authority ... for the Spear of Longinus is aimed towrds their hearts
ready to turn upon the enemy, no matter who launches it.

Herrods Gold?   Take a look at the picture of Christ giving someone the
mojo, and then wonder..

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
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[CTRL] AOL's Altruism Sucks: Building a Media Slug

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.5/aol_merg.htm
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.5/aol_merg.htm"AOL's
Altruism Sucks: Building a Media Slug, by…/A
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AOL's Altruism Sucks


Building a Media Slug



by Peter Topolewski

Not long after Steve Case and Gerald Levin announced the creation of the
first "new media" monster of the "Internet Century", the CEO's of AOL and
Time Warner respectively made the rounds of the "old media" companies to toot
their horns. They played an ambitious but ambiguous tune, one that proclaimed
their new company had the tools and means to make the world a better place.

In other circumstances I might ask readers to forgive my skepticism, but I am
by no means the only one harboring doubts. I can't believe Steve Case had othe
r people's best interests in mind when he went after Time Warner. And I'm
sure benevolence was the last thing shareholders wanted to hear him say
motivated the merger.

For Time Warner, the impetus for the merger was obvious enough. The wandering
media giant, with more glamour on hand than sense of direction, wanted to
finally make meaningful strides into the future of business. The future for
now means the Internet, whether the Internet is profitable or not.

For AOL the deal means two things: content and distribution. AOL can claim,
rather unremarkably, to have recognized what most web users have long known:
that the Internet suffers a paucity of quality content. AOL has capitalized
on the absence of quality by making itself a simple access point to neutral
but helpful and occasionally "fun" features. AOL's format and information are
neither the best nor the worst, but they are among the easiest to access and
roam through. All those people who detest AOL, particularly the technophiles,
will eventually have to admit that not everyone's idea of a good time
involves reading code and configuring web browsers. For those people who want
to use the Internet to enhance their hobbies and make life easier, AOL offers
a viable platform. Steven Case sees in Time Warner, with reams of content and
a cable system to speed AOL delivery, a way to bring the AOL simplicity to
movies, music, travel, magazines, health care, and finance. Very altruistic.

Take This "Content" and Shove It

Unfortunately for him and Levin, the problems are many. The whole deal, for
example, forces one to wonder if either considered asking themselves: Does
anybody really want more Time Warner products? Did AOL users really miss out
on CNN's useless Princess Diana or JFK, Jr. coverage? Will the increasingly
boring world of professional sports suddenly seem revitalized thanks to Sports
 Illustrated's stunning insights, specially reformatted for AOL? Are
web-users constantly scratching the heads wondering where they can find that
800 number to order those interesting Time-Life videos? Well, 58 percent of
those recently polled by Newsweek say they're not interested in more
opportunities to buy or view more Time Warner content. So the short
answer(s): No.

Along with mediocre content – outside the movies and music none of it much
more daring, but all of it longer-winded than anything AOL now offers – Time
Warner also brings AOL its massive, slow moving, and not always well-oiled
corporate structure. AOL, which at least worked on some variable of Internet
time, will upon merger become something more like a lumbering behemoth. With
such baggage don't count on AOL to react or grow anything like its Internet
brethren. Whatever else AOLTW might become, it won't be a beacon of
innovation.

As far as profits are concerned, that could spell trouble. Fortune estimates
that for AOLTW to deliver anything worthwhile to shareholders, it will need
to achieve a market capitalization of $2.4 trillion by 2015. Gambling folk
might be willing to take a chance on that, but the typical investor doesn't
much like the odds of Case and Co. overseeing such growth.

Put together, these problems raise the question: Can a huge, soon to be
slower, company filled to the gills with well-made, but mundane content
survive—much less succeed—in the Internet century?

Maybe. But the very fact that the question can be asked should be enough to
dispel the fears the public (not necessarily the shareholders) has voiced
over the merger. According to Newsweek's poll, only 25 percent of adults say
the merger is good for the country, and just as many say it's bad for the
country. Only 18 percent of the people think the merger is good for them
personally. The reason for all this anxiety is of course the fear that AOLTW
will create some sort of media monopoly.

The fears are justified, as control of the larger news providers is already
being placed in the hands of fewer companies. Time-CNN is one large player in
an Internet news field that has shrunk to a few partnerships, including ABC-Ne
w York Times, NBC-MSNBC-Washington Post, and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
media 

[CTRL] 25 Rules of Propaganda

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:alt.conspiracy
As, always, Caveat Lector
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"The ancient art of brainwashing has now become a science. It
relies on the fact that most people are not sufficiently astute
to see its application in operation."

--Bob Knauer


25 Rules of Propaganda


1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what
you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public
figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen,
and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues
and instead focus on side issues which can be used to show the
topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or
theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing
all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and
wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of
truth may work as well.  This method works especially well with a
silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the
facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate
the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a
"wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your
opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make
yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up
an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation
of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the
weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance
and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the
charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding
discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is
also known as the primary "attack the messenger" ploy, though
other methods qualify as variants of that approach.  Associate
opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing",
"liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs",
"radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual
deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support
out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with
issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your
opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an
answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works
extremely well in Internet and letters- to -the-editor
environments where a steady stream of new identities can be
called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning --
simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing
issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that
would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so
taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden
personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and
forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself
with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and
"minutiae" to illustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say
it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely
why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is
offered, avoid discussing issues by denial that they have any
credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a
point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum
effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of
--the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high
--visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or
were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have
your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with
early on as part of the initial contingency plans.  Subsequent
charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can
usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed
as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues
-- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with
the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor
matter or element of the facts, take the "high road" and
"confess" with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight,
was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to
blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities
which, "just isn't so." Others can reinforce this on your behalf,
later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect 

[CTRL] Is GW Bush a Frontman anyway?

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: Is GW Bush a "Frontman" anyway?
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Date: Wed, Feb 2, 2000 7:38 PM
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The question that I've wanted out there all along regarding G.W. Bush has
been:
is he a "front man"?

I ask this because it does not make sense otherwise why this guy was suddenly
getting the kind of GOP money that he was.  Afterall, his father was
practically ex-communicated from the party a few years back for not being
"conservative" enough.  Now, GW was being showered with funds.  Why?

Some words (and below, some graphcis) for thought ...

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It's About Money


Don't want to watch the country slide into fascism? Don't want to watch the
country's resources sold-off to GOP cronies after the 2000 election? Then ask
these questions now:
Why is George W. Bush running for President? Why is the GOP, which only a few
years ago hated his family so behind him now?
Is it because he is the only one in the GOP now with a chance in hell of
winning? But then what was "the deal" he struck to get the GOP's support?

More to the point, why is Steve Forbes running?

Is it in hopes of looting the country's treasury and natural resources
between him and his billionaire boys club cronies?
Look at the other GOP boosters:

Remember he's another billionaire. Remember also that it was Murdoch's Fox
Television network (as well as Murdoch's New York Post) that were so after
Clinton last year. Why? Certainly it wasn't for morality's sake. Indeed if
anything, Murdoch, whose networks has brought us Married with Children and
more recently The X-Show, is the "king of sleaze TV." So there was something
else that Murdoch was after when his media empire went off on its quest to
knock Clinton off.
In fact, it's about riches, it's about power. It's about trying to get ones'
hands on this country's treasury and natural resources and then to loot this
country and the world of its wealth on a scale unimaginable since the the
"gilded age" of turn of the last century.
Let us not kid around, the pieces are almost in place. All that is needed is
a complaint President to "sign the checks" and "sign over the deeds."
Dennis Kriz
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He was excommunicated for raising taxes: read my lips.
He too was a Failed Commander-in-Chief,
who after assembling the most awesome fighting force of the 20th century,
not only failed to finish the job, to ensure the peace, but spent the rest of
his term dreaming up ways to send his troops to $hitholes like Somalia
under the guise of 'peace-keeping'. Yeah man, read my lips.

When his own General (Schwarzkopf) spoke the Truth to this effect,
he was rewarded by dismissal from duty.

Now, GW was being showered with funds.  Why?

The cost of get-out-of-jail-free cards has gone up.

People, with more money than talent, are desperate for a change in gov't.
But this election, however, is not so much about change, as it is about
officiating the foregone conclusion in completing Clinton's Bridge to the
21st Century of Socialized Tyrrany.

In appeasing the crocodile, they live with vain hope that it eats them last.
For the ones on the right side, it could be money well spent.
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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] EU THROWN INTO CRISIS BY THREATS TO AUSTRIA

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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Note from Ru Mills:

For several days, I have not been able to send anything to my Onelist group.
I have no idea why. I hope this one goes through. There are many excellent
and thought provoking articles on the Forum.  Use the enclosedl ink to take a
look at them.

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Posted By: RAYELAN
Date: Wednesday, 2 February 2000, at 8:26 p.m.

In the article on Joerge Haider and the European Union, RMNews suggested that
the actions of the EU might backfire.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=1376

The following article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard illustrates our point. The
essense of the article is summed up in this paragraph:

"there is growing irritation in Brussels that the Portuguese presidency
of the EU continues to present the action of the 14 states as if it were an
official EU policy when, in fact, it has no legal basis under EU treaty law
and is taking place outside the formal structure of the EU. The unprecedented
decision of the EU governments to meddle so openly in the internal politics
of a democratic sovereign state drew intense criticism in the European
Parliament yesterday."

**

EU thrown into crisis by threats to Austria

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels

15,000 protest over Haider coalition role

Boris Johnson: The hills are alive with the sound of humbug

THE European Union was headed for crisis last night as Austrian leaders moved
closer to including the far-Right Freedom Party in government in the face of
growing threats from EU member governments.

Hubert Védrine, the French Foreign Minister, said that Austria could be
"suspended" from the EU for failure to ensure the protection of fundamental
rights, threatening the most severe sanction available to EU members for use
against a fellow state.

But there is growing irritation in Brussels that the Portuguese presidency of
the EU continues to present the action of the 14 states as if it were an
official EU policy when, in fact, it has no legal basis under EU treaty law
and is taking place outside the formal structure of the EU. The unprecedented
decision of the EU governments to meddle so openly in the internal politics
of a democratic sovereign state drew intense criticism in the European
Parliament yesterday.

The European People's Party, the majority conservative party, denounced the
threats against Austria as foolish, unwarranted, and possibly illegal, and
said it "would support the Austrian government" if it were to include Jörg
Haider's party. The party's stance raises the possibility that the European
Parliament, the EU's only elected body, could ultimately disavow the actions
of EU governments.

Edward McMillan-Scott, leader of the Tory MEPs, said: "We reject absolutely
the underlying philosophy, programme and tone of Austria's Freedom Party. But
not a word was said by these same EU governments about coalitions involving
fellow-travelling communists in the French or Italian governments, or in
German state governments, or even the British government's willingness to
promote those with terrorist associations as ministers in Northern Ireland
today."

Romano Prodi, the president of the European Commission, continued to play a
balancing act between the demands of the 14 member governments and the
constraints of EU law, which allows the commission to take action under the
provisions of the Amsterdam Treaty only when there are "serious and
persistent breaches" of human rights.

The crisis is already starting to rattle the financial markets, which are
afraid that Austria might use its vote at the Council of Ministers to
paralyse all EU business. Yesterday, the international credit rating agency,
Standard and Poor's, said that it was re-evaluating Austria's AAA
credit-rating in the light of developments.

In a speech to the European Parliament, Mr Prodi politely reminded Europe's
governments that "the treaties set out precise mechanisms for ensuring the
principles of the union are respected". The commission says its own dealings
with Vienna are not affected and will not be affected until and unless there
is a concrete violation of the treaty.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000114832908976rtmo=pbIbehseatmo=g3JKp
g=/et/00/2/3/waus03.html

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[CTRL] America's Furtherance Of Globalism's Cashless Society

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: America's Furtherance Of Globalism's Cashless Society
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Date: Wed, Feb 2, 2000 9:28 AM
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The General Service Administration has established February 7,
2000 as the cut-off date for vendors and contractors of smart
cards and related accessories to have their bids in. The
$1,000,000,000 procurement effort is the largest so far in
America of the secret and known efforts to further the
Illuminati's goals of a much more controllable and manipulated
global economic system.The General Service Administration will be
awarding 5 or more contracts that will last at least 10 years.
All government employees will be issued a multi-use smart card
which will incorporate and carry all types of biometric
information and it will incorporate the digitized signatures of
the smart card bearer. The smart cards will be issued first to
Federal Government employees, who will take them without any
choice, and then smart cards will eventually be "filtered down"
to all other levels and areas of society in America and the rest
of the world for absolute and positive verification and
eventually they will be used to control anything and everything
anybody on earth does through the use of one multi-purpose,
biometrically-accurate smart card. Government employees will be
using the smart cards to access and exit the predetermined and
"globally approved" areas of parking, elevators, doorways, Big
Brother-approved electronic purchasing, computer networks
including those people allowed onto the Internet, access to
bathrooms, files, and everything else that is considered normal
everyday activities of a government employee. Government
employees are being made an "example" of first and then everybody
else, everywhere, will be forced by totalitarian economic control
to take and abide in this coming global manipulation or humanity
won't be able to have any of the normally needed functions of
everyday life.


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[CTRL] Warning - the 1930's again !

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:592845"Warning - the
1930's again !/A
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The Kondtratiev long wave cycle is upon us again.
We are just about to enter a time similar to the 1930's.
A Worldwide economic downturn.
The Rise of the Dictators.
Weimar Russia.
Although not the same look to the 1930's and learn about
the next ten years

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Re: [CTRL] The Stansfield Turner Diaries

2000-02-03 Thread Aol user

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I was working as a minor cog in military intelligence at the time "Standing
in the middle of the Field and Turning" was the DCI.  At our level the
negative feelings was generated by his gutting of U.S. controlled human
intelligence.  Admiral Turner perferred "National Tehnical Means" and
coordination with allies, therby keeping his hands lily white.  In later
decades as terrorism and drugs became the target the lack of long term human
assets was sorely felt.

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[CTRL] Murder by Laser

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/Laser.htm"Murder by Laser
/A
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This page's URL:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/Laser.htmupdated
Feb 1, 2000
The pages on this web-site:
Prelimary report (Oct 99) and updates:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/Laser.htm
Injuries, disability and pain:  http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dissed.htm
Self-help actions you can try:  http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/actions.htm
The issues:  http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dissues.htm
Weather uses of the equipment: http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dweather.htm
Voicemail database used by the perpetrators:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dbase.htm
Coding structures for the database and how they are used:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dbcoding.htm
ECHELON key-words and database entries for them:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/echelon.htm
Note: ECHELON is a multinational "Spy in the Sky" (the new "SS")
Intelligence Operation (US, Canada, UK, ..)
Links and references page: http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/alinks.htm
List of users from searches of the email database:
http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/abusers.htm
PERSONAL ENDANGERMENT
I'm making it public that as the attacks continue, and if my body is found
dead, it will be a case of cold-blooded murder.  If disabled, or made into a
mental vegetable: a case of assault with intent to maim.
The electro-technological attacks deliberately create physical conditions
that mimic common ailments, including those of tissue destruction, targetting
vascular, digestive, and respiratory systems and internal vital organs.
Assault is a criminal offense.  Murder is murder, whether the murder weapon
is identified or not and whether the murderer is identified or not. I have
already reported the attacks to law-enforcement agencies. Much as I have
worked to obtain public awareness of what is going on, and sought help and
support from those mandated by legislation and policy to provide it, none has
been received.
My chosen viewpoint is that if the resources of intelligence, government and
law-enforcement organizations are being used in attacks against civilians, it
is by criminal infiltration, not as part of their standard operations, and we
pay with our taxes the high costs of these assaults, both in their
operational funding and in the health care received by targetted individuals.
I may lose this battle, but it will not be in silent submission.My life
is still at risk, as is my health.  Only a fool wouldn't care about staying
alive. I also care that it be stopped.  There are still many people who care
that Justice, decency, and Human Rights be respected in this country, and on
this planet.   If you are among them, speak up.
"Send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."Ernest
Hemingway
PRELIMINARY REPORT AND UPDATES
Subject: Biotech  Suppression (Updated Feb 1, 2000  changes are in
italics.)
---
A. General Information.
---
The 'who': specifics unknown at this time.
The 'what': electronic technologies used broadly to suppress general
population within the geographical distance capabilities of the equipment,
(about 500 mile radius), and used specifically to suppress 'rebellious'
individuals within it, by amplifying and using what are apparently 'natural'
and 'normal' life conditions and situations.
The 'how': suppression  through increased electrical charge; pain and injury
and the resultant use of drugs; damage and destruction of materiel, tying up
resources and funds; interference and disturbance on actions; damage and
destruction to objects and loved-ones, friends and family; analytical
suppression, (introversion, dispersal, wrong why's, wrong who's, doubt of own
perceptions of reality, etc.), through the mechanically increased charge, by
image and voice/sound projections using modern electronics technologies.
--
B. Electronics.
--
I don't have the technical knowledge to precisely identify all of the
equipment and technologies used; so, I'm describing the effects created and
observed.  Also, some of these may be created by the same device by varying
the settings and flows.
1). That lasers are used is a certainty following the confirmation by Dr.
(name erased for privacy reasons), specialist in lasers and optics, and by
Dr. (name erased for privacy reasons), specialist in radiation, both of the
Radiation Protection Bureau, Health Canada, of the appearance of a point of
light on surfaces, the colour of the light varying depending on the type of
laser being used.  I have observed red and whitish-blue points on metallic
and reflective surfaces, of varying sizes and intensities from a small speck
to a very bright amplified radiation. And, I have observed the amplification
of light from the point of intersection of an 

Re: [CTRL] Is GW Bush a Frontman anyway?

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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Well Baby Bush..and a little child shall lead them.this guy has
an IQ of a pet rockhis father?  Never really saw him do anything
overly bright.fought a war and was a hero though, cannot deny him
thatbut a big brain?   No way.both hese men are front men, as in
Bill Clinton.

This Mafia thing...30 years ago I read this one book where they
showed a family tree, and showed how the Mafia controlled everything but
our government.our treasury is at stake hereour money.

These evil people . this is how it operates, like leaving an area
about to turn into a ghetto for the poor who move in and take the
crumbs.or those big Air Lines, with these old airplanes selling out
and letting the employees buy them.

Well see what has happened here?   How can they replace all those
planes, service is poort and passengers are treated in a rude
manner.say, they ain't got no class, they were left with a ghetto of
dying planesI would not want to fly one.

So now they want the world, but they got to break our constitutiuon
before the take over.so what do they do?

Look at today's news..US Navy Ship boards an Iraqi Ship searing for
oil that they are not allowed to sell.by what authority to we do
this in International Waters?

Why by a UN Resolution.now a resolution is not a law of course, it
is the written intent to do something not contray to law.

Since when does the US Navy board Iraqi ships based on a UN Resolution?
Do they put their little UN hats on them now, like that Scott Ritter who
worked for the Mossad?

This is the Mafia.the Real Mafia..these are the assassins, the
serial killers, those who would destroy our constitution and the one
thing they havenot been able to get their hands on is our King Solomon's
Mines..though they gouge us with taxes, for this is where the money
is.

Why do we pay billions of dollars to Israel to build an air force while
we must ask KGB for permission to provide for the Missile Defense System
of this countryand Madeline Albright eats with KGBanyone
surprised by this

This Mafia, they are the Zionists.they have no authority, they use
illegal power through Clinton and his henchmen.look what Clinton did
in Arkansas.spread HIV blood to Canada.spread this disease world
wide without a doubt.did he know this blood was tainted?   Well I
say this, in 1979 the Jehovah Witnesses knew something was wrong with
blood when they came into my office (worked for the Judges) and wanted
to stop a blood transfusion of one of their own.

This man who came in was no ordinary man; for I have seen eyes like this
before, cold steel gray powerful well trained eyes...some say
Jehovah Witnesses are Zionists..I do not know, but they sure knew in
advance of the AIDS panic that the blood was poisoned, and they were
about to get a dose of their own medicine?

Who butchers and murders and has a license to kill?Well look at
bodies found in barrels and butchery done by Meyer Lansky of the Jewish
Zionist Mafiain Columbus, his playmates with whom he used to spend
some time on their farm, were going to castrate this black
doctorsaid he had had an affair with a white woman.but it was
over drugs like Larry Flynt was shot by that bunch, only that man still
does know realize this.

These men had KKK literature in a basement and at times circulated in
Columbus when they wanted to knock off their drug competition - some
small time and some big time, but the Shapiro file holds the names of
all those in the card game.

So this thing operates at the foundation of this Country and heads for
the top of the pyramid.they do want our government for that is the
one thing they have not been able to get.

So now what do they do?   They ignore it...the Constitution, but is that
not what they have always doneoperated on a blank check get in the
government and get control through the President by blackmail and is
this not what they did to Bush and Clinton both of whom took favors, and
it is payback time.

See how Baby Bush, almost got killed by a dump truckget that one,
dump Bush.after he said no American Soldier would wear UN uniform if
he was elected.
That guy appears dense at times, because he is not being spoon fed all
the information he needs to keep in step; he hears the different
drummer, as I do.

But, he inhaled and Clinton says he did not.who cares?   We have a
President in the White House who has given his authority to the
KGB.think not?   We ask permission from KGB to build defense system;
we have FBI Freeh returning from Russia saying how great KGB is.and
that Albright, eating with the enemy and oh how wonder Putin is, the man
who wants to show what will happen to anyone who gets out of line, like
Waco, Ruby Ridge, they murdered children..so he lets a little boy;s
legs be cut off as a lesson Chechnya and 

[CTRL] JFK, China and Israel

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://204.107.208.2/~ralph/china.jfk.israel.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://204.107.208.2/~ralph/china.jfk.israel.html"JFK,
CHINA and ISRAEL: I can see clearly now.../A
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I personally do not agree with much of this book. Quien Sabe?
Om
K
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JFK, CHINA and ISRAEL:
I can see clearly now...


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[CTRL] [2] Mafia Porn

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.4porn.net/a80.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.4porn.net/a80.html"Mafia  Porn/A
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John Krasner, who built a smut empire based in Allentown, Pennsylvania that
spread throughout the northeastern United States, proclaimed himself the
"Prince of Pornography." In reality, he was a puppet of Reuben Sturman.
Before Krasner went bankrupt in 1966, and then began, with Al Morrow, to
publish porn, his arrest record included robbery, narcotics and gambling.
He financed his porn career with $160,000 in loans from Willie Weisberg, a
major organized crime figure in Philadelphia whose career began with
Prohibition. For years Weisberg was second-in-command of Philadelphia’s Rosen
Mob, a highly organized criminal network.
Krasner had close business relations with Norman Arno and Teddy Gaswirth.
"Krasner’s business operations were incredibly sophisticated and complex. A
single Krasner-owned bookstore would be concealed in a maze of corporations
and individuals acting as "straw men." Fromer Krasner employees have revealed
that a typical bookstore may have involved as many as eight corporations,
thereby concealing actual ownership." (Porn Merchants, p.93)
Bouncing from one crisis to another during the 1970s, Krasner was convicted
of conspiring to kill Al Morrow, a former business partner. While free on
appeal, his wife was kidnapped and held for ransom. She finally escaped. Then
several of his stores were bombed.
In 2/6/79, Krasner was gunned down in a Fort Lauderdale parking lot in what
looked like a mob style hit, possibly ordered by his former partner Morrow.
Krasner's son Phil took over his dad's operations, and was eventually busted
for laundering money.
On 5/29/79, Morrow was shot but survived. He was later convicted for arson
and fraud.
To combat the Mafia's porn racket, the FBI launched MIPORN. The acronym
combined the location of FBI front operations "Miami" with the subject of the
investigation "pornography."
MIPORN grew out of an investigation by the Dade County sheriff’s office in
Florida in 1976. Two detectives from the office opened a retail pornography
store and quickly found themselves enmeshed in a highly organized secret and
nationwide industry. The two detectives turned for assistance to veteran FBI
agent Bill Kelly, who'd covered the obscenity beat since 1962. Kelly
persuaded his higher-ups to launch the federal investigation MIPORN.
Two FBI agents Bruce Ellavsky and Patrick Livingston moved to Miami in
September 1977. Operating out of Miami warehouse, they posed as a pair of
sleazy porno film buyers for a company they set up called Golde Coaste
Specialties. The agents later set up GC Sales, Ltd., in the Grand Cayman
Islands to lend credibility to the operation.
Bruce Ellavsky, tall and handsome, used the undercover name Bruce Wakerly and
Patrick Livingstone, short and balding became Pat Salamone. For thirty weeks,
Bruce and Pat wore open-necked shirts, sharkskin suits, designer jeans, gold
neck chains and diamond pinky rings. They drove around in rented Cadillacs,
sometimes with a pair of beautiful women hanging on their arms, and boasted
their drug dealing. To keep their credibility, they became "dupers," one who
makes and sells unauthorized copies of films whose rights to distribution are
held by others.
The agents infiltrated the porn industry and dealt with top crime figures who
pirated mainstream movies as well as producing and distributing smut. The
future owners of VCA Russell James Hampshire (born 7/25/46) and Walter
Gernert (best known as one of the Dark Brothers, Walter Dark) shipped
illegally duplicated videos of mainstream films across state lines for their
TVX Distributors boss Phillip Charles Bernstene. Because such theft cost
Hollywood a billion dollars a year, mainstream distributors contributed much
of MIPORN's $300,000 budget which funded the FBI agents' trips to
pornographers and mobsters in every major US city including New York, Los
Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Minneapolis and
Providence.
When the wiseguys became suspicious and the lives of the FBI investigators
appeared in danger, the undercover agents stopped paying their bills, which
helped establish their credibility. Ellavsky and Livingston eventually gained
the confidence of LA pornographer Rubin Gottesman who introduced the
undercover agents to the industry. They gained these insights.
Robert "DiBi" DiBernado, Theodore "Teddy" Rothstein, and Andrew "Andre"
D'Apice ran Star Distributors of NewYork City - the biggest porn dealer on
the East Coast. Owned by the De Cavalcante crime family in the '70s, the
multi-million dollar conglomerate controlled bookstores, movie theaters, and
publishing houses in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Ohio and Georgia.
Star's biggest customer for decades was Reuben Sturman. The FBI, with
assistance from other law enforcement agencies, documented deals between
DiBernardo's Star 

[CTRL] [1] Mafia Porn

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.4porn.net/a80.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.4porn.net/a80.html"Mafia  Porn/A
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The Mafia arrived in the U.S. with the great wave of Italian immigrants who
came to the New World in the late 19th and early 20th century. It's a direct
lineal descendent of the Sicilian organization though transformed by American
mores and modern corporate methods.
Organized crime experts such as journalist Jerry Capeci rank the Mafia as the
most dangerous and resilient criminal organization in the world.
"In the past few decades, when every other social institution in America has
either been shattered or changed forever, the Mafia has continued to thrive,"
writes Capeci in his book Goombatta. "Like a virulent parasite, it has
adapted to the host body, fastening on whatever the law or social convention
allowed: organized kidnapping was abandoned for rum-running during the
Prohibition, bootlegging was replaced by the black market during World War
II, which was replaced by illegal gambling and narcotics trafficking, and so
on."
A coalition of 24 separate groups (each known as a "family") of organized
criminals, the Mafia mainly reside in New York. Law enforcement estimates its
annual take at $60 - $100 billion a year.
Organized crime began its infiltration of the porn industry in the 1960s.
Grand juries in New York and Bexar County, Texas said in the early '70s that
organized crime controlled 90% of America's hardcore pornography business.
The 1976 Task Force on Organized Crime of the National Committee on Criminal
Justice Standards and Goals said: "Organized crime is believed to be in all
aspects of the pornography industry: literature and films of all types (i.e.,
hard core, soft core, art, 16mm magazines, books), sexual devices, "service
establishments (including live sex shows), production, wholesaling and
retailing, and distribution."
In 1978, a group of law enforcement officers, coordinated through the
Investigative Services Division of the Washington D.C. Police Department,
found a high level of criminal control of the sex industry because of the
billions of dollars involved and the low priority police and DA's gave
obscenity enforcement. The imposition of minimal fines and no jail time upon
random convictions resulted in a low-risk high-profit endeavor.
The 1978 Federal Bureau of Investigation Report Regarding the Extent of
Organized Crime Involvement in Pornography concluded: "...Organized crime
involvement in pornography...is significant, and there is an obvious national
control directly and indirectly by organized crime figures... Few
pornographers can operate in the United States without involvement with
organized crime The huge profits gathered by organized crime in this area
and redirected to other lucrative forms of crime, such as narcotics and
investment in legitimate business enterprises, are cause for national
concern, even if there is community apathy toward pornography."
In the 4/12/79 Washington Post, syndicated columnist Jack Anderson wrote that
"the pornography industry is controlled by organized crime. Phony names and
dummy corporations are used, but behind them are the crime bosses."
An FBI report in 1979 concluded that "a few individuals with direct
connections... with the organized crime establishment, specifically, Cosa
Nostra, run [national and international] porn distribution."
A spokesman for the Chicago Police Department Organized Crime Division
reported "...it is the belief of state, federal and local law enforcement
that the pornography industry is controlled by organized crime families. If
they do not own the business outright, they extract street tax from
independent smut peddlers."
The Organized Crime Division of the Washington D.C. Police Department said in
1979: "The pornography industry is characterized by a vertical distribution
and a pyramid structure with a limited number of documented distributors
within individual states. Porn is initially supplied to national distributors
who then sell to inter-state distributors who in turn distribute to
intra-state distributors.
"This limited number of pornography distributors may indicate the lucrative
profits in the distributorship and production of porn with the capability of
dictating prices to independent bookstore owners. As an example of high
profits... A magazine can be produced for approximately fifty cents;
wholesaled for five dollars and retailed for ten dollars. This computes to a
1900% profit production to consumer sale. In general, there is no competition
or price wars, which indicates price control."
The report revealed the methods used by the Mafia's pornographers to avoid
detection by law enforcement:
1. Names of corporate officers are used without the individual's knowledge or
consent.
2. Notary Publics are employed to notarize signatures without confrontation
of signees.
3. Rubber stamps of signatures are used without the authorizing 

[CTRL] Alaska Airlines Flight 261

2000-02-03 Thread earthman

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Flight 261, weather, radar, HAARP, runways, EWAR
Kent Steadman
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html
http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/project/md-80.html

Alaska Airlines Flight 261 MD-83, MD 80 series, Preliminary Data
INTERESTING CONNECTIONS:
NAVAL AIR WARFARE WEAPONS DIVISION: SEA RANGE
Full Operating Capability (FOC):
NAWC-WD China Lake and Point Magu
Search above as a phrase in Metacrawler takes us to
ELECTRONIC COMBAT RANGE

Anchorage, Jan. 31- It's now known that at least five Alaskans were on the
Alaska Airlines plane that crashed off the California coast Monday,
including
a well respected Native leader, along with a former lawmaker's son.

Former Doyon president Morris Thompson, his wife, Thelma, and their daughter
were also among the 83 passengers and five crewmembers onboard. Thompson,
61,
recently retired as head of theInterior regional Native corporation. He was
at the helm of Doyon since 1985.

With the land entitlement of 12.5 million acres, Doyon is the largest
private
landowner in North America
Rough Map Composite
Look at this composite map at:
http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/project/md-80.html
specifically:
http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/project/Lands5.jpg
looks like HAARP is on the border, slightly inside or outside, yet to be
determined, of Native Doyon land.
QUAKES:
2.5 2000/02/01 02:22:46 34.004N 116.310W 0.7 15 km ( 9 mi) S of Joshua Tree,
CA
 00/01/31 22:00:12 34.36N 116.14W 0.6 3.6Ml SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2.2 2000/01/31 15:44:53 34.368N 116.144W 0.3 27 km (17 mi) NNW of Twentynine
Palms, CA
3.6 2000/01/31 14:00:12 34.363N 116.136W 0.5 26 km (16 mi) NNW of Twentynine
Palms, CA
(NOTE: depths 0.7, 0.3, 0.6, 0.5, telltale spoor of high energy Physics?
Have
we seen these signs before?)

EMAIL, 2/2/00 2:05:20 PM Pacific Standard Time: Check the frequency of
little
quakes BEFORE and AFTER the Alaska Airlines reported difficulties  crash.
May be nothing. Just passing it along so it won't get lost in case it is
worth further pondering.

ANOMALOUS IMAGES: Weather Anomaly At Alaska Airlines Crash Site?
WINGATE: This is a GOES-10 satellite image animation I made from images
around the time of the crash, at 00:30 UT when the accident occurred. You
may
notice a weather anomaly coming from the west, south of Vandenberg AFB. The
crash occurred just east of the three islands, west of Point Mugu.

KASTEN: One of the factors not mentioned in any report - mainstream media or
on-line- is the fact that Point Mugu/Oxnard area is the location of Port
Hueneme which was designated by Pres. Ronald Reagan as a "star wars" base
(none of which is mentioned or located on a map in the news reports). This
is
the base on which the weaponry of the "future" is supposed to be located.
Point Mugu, of course, is one of the western locations of the technology
which is suppose to protect the western coast of the United States from
in-coming attacks.

WHY DIDN'T FLIGHT 261 JUSTLAND?
Fl. 261 was only several miles away from the runways at Pt. Mugu--in fact,
the runways would have been CLEARLY visible from the jet at 17,000 feet, if
by some incredible lapse of knowledge the pilots were not aware of their
existence.

Except at joint airfields, United States Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine
Corps,
and Coast Guard airfields are available for use by civil aircraft only with
prior permission or in an emergency.

Military instrument approach chart for Point Mugu NAWS which has a 11,100ft
NE/SW main runway. (Chart Date Dec/92 Valid to Jan 93)
Subj: Point Mugu
Date: 2/2/00 8:08:01 PM
Pacific Standard Time
Thought you might be interested in the attached. One of my old approach
plates for Point Mugu. Its main runway (11,100ft) is plenty large enough to
take even the biggest aircraft. FWIW, a trim problem (say runaway trim) is
usually manageable and is a regular scenario for which airline crews are
well
trained. This may explain why the aircraft initially elected for nearby LAX,
where repairs could be arranged and/or alternate travel arranged for the
passengers. It almost seems that things went to hell-in-a-handbasket shortly
after that for some inexplicable reason. Certainly the crew would have made
for Point Mugu NAWS if the circumstances had then been dire and Pointm Mugu
would have rendered all assistance without a second thought. Note also
another MD-80 just today experienced a trim emergency but landed without
incident. Watch for immediate FAA action re the MD80.

NEWSHAWK: WAS 261 ICED?
We were also advised as follows by a NewsHawk respondent: 'Alaska Air was
very  forthcoming about their flight upkeep and condition, that is until the
national government types got to their president. Then he clammed up almost
totally.'He DID,however, say one thing upon arriving in Los Angeles: that he
"knew a great deal more about the events surrounding the crash," but
couldn't
talk about them. 'Sounds like he wanted to.badly.'

FLASH RADAR: 1/31/00 12 HOUR SATELLITE LOOP
ODD NEVADA 

[CTRL] Fwd: Gore - The Omega Male

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

I like this.plus Gore also played in the poppy fields too long, for
that guy isn't too bright either.he had a body guard when he went to
war..I would like to teach all those guys to do a little side step
when they see a bullet headed their way.if I am going to lay me doon
and dee for something, it will be something worth dying for...

Know anyone willingly who would lay themselvs doon and Dee for that
bunch?

Oh we do the little side step.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**




In a message dated 02/03/2000 1:02:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Omega Male
 Tom Adkins
 http://commonconservative.com/

 Sit. Roll Over. Fetch. Good boy...

 I was flipping through channels the other night. I'm the Alpha male in
 my house, so I control the remote. I came across a Discovery
 Channel show on a wolf pack. How they lived, how they hunted, how
 they grew up, how they reared their young and all that cool stuff.

 The Alpha female ruled the pack, of course, a common arrangement
 in lower animal classes. The other females accepted their fate and
 resigned themselves to collectively rearing the young, and kept the
 pack intact.

 Then, the show focused on the males. There was the Alpha male. He
 was Mr. Big, and didn't take any crap from anyone. Then they
 showed the Beta male. He was always looking for a way to one-up
 the Alpha male, especially with the ladies. The Beta male was
 second place, but no slouch. The other wolves respected him.

 Then, something started bothering me. After all the grief we gave Al
 Gore about the Alpha/Beta male thing =85 well, none of this fits. Bill
 Clinton is obviously the Alpha male. He does whatever he wants,
 obeying no rules except those set by Alpha Female Hillary. (She
 keeps him in line with a strategically placed lampshade across the
 noggin once in a while, but accepts his behavior as the price for her
 pack status.) But Al Gore, the Beta male? A Beta male is supposed
 to keep the Alpha male on his toes. A good Alpha leaves few
 opportunities, and a good Beta takes advantage of the Alpha's
 mistakes. But wait a second. That's not Al Gore.

 The show then took a detour, featuring a scruffy, goofy wolf. He was
 the Omega, the disrespected lowest in the pack. All other wolves
 picked on him. He ate only scraps they left him. The Omega did
 whatever he was told, or he got a good bite in the ass from the other
 wolves.

 Suddenly, it hit me; Al gore is the Omega Male. It's actually an
 important job. The Omega must be willing to sell his soul to keep the
 pack intact. That sure fits Al Gore. Remember that tearful anti-
 cigarette epiphany at his sister's deathbed, while he was actually
 taking gobs of money from tobacco companies? Classic Omega.
 And remember wife Tipper's PMRC, founded to combat immoral
 entertainment and to censor the music industry? Gore shoved it
 aside when he sucked up to Hollywood fat cats for campaign bucks,
 and then defended a president who molested women and lied about
 it under oath. That is true Omega courage.

 And the Omega wolf does silly things to break tension within the
 pack. That certainly sounds like Gore. We chuckled when he got
 lost in a national park. We howled when he claimed the automobile
 was the greatest threat to humanity. Even hardened grumps fell on
 the floor laughing when Gore claimed he invented the Internet. We
 could hardly control ourselves when he ironically hired feminist
 Naomi Wolf to teach him the ways of an Alpha Male. Certainly, no
 sane Alpha would do this. Neither would a Beta. Only an Omega
 would bumble so hilariously.

 Think of it. Every time Gore had a chance to rise above the Alpha
 male, he rolled over and showed his belly. He could have refused to
 launder money at that Buddhist temple. He could have objected to
 the 900 FBI files. He missed a golden opportunity to one-up Clinton
 when America discovered he assaulted women, obstructed justice
 and lied under oath. And he stood passively when Clinton helped sell
 missile secrets to China in apparent exchange for 3 million illegal
 campaign bucks. These were silver-platter opportunities, offering
 Gore the perfect chance to show the American pack he was better
 than Clinton. If Gore had taken a stand at any point, Democrats
 would have abandoned their Alpha Molester and Gore might well be
 president. But he didn't. Because Gore isn't an Alpha. He's not even
 a Beta. He's a quivering, purebred 100% Omega Male.

 So why bring this up now, long after the "Alpha" story broke?
 Because the elections are only nine months away, and Democrats
 are about to offer an Omega male to lead the most powerful nation
 on earth. Someone who spent his last seven years on the sidelines
 of a real life Good versus Evil play. Someone who passively
 accepted a seriously flawed Alpha leader. Instead of taking a stand,
 he 

[CTRL] Fwd: [SonsofLiberty] Fwd: Abdul Abulbul Amir

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

For the good times




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colleen Jones)

Lately been thinking about this old song, for my one Uncle was Navy
Intelligence and he used to play this son on his spanish guitar and
mandolin and violin and you name it..but when I read about the polar
star, and the body in the bag with the sack fitted close to the back,
one has the feeling that this is your life, Mr. Putin

And this is okay with me so long as they get Reno, Albright, Clinton,
Rubin, Kissinger, Cohen, but spare Socks and Buddyand oh yes, do not
forget Hilary.

Deep Six they call it..the old deep six routine.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**


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[CTRL] Bush Executions: Propaganda or Mindcontrol?

2000-02-03 Thread DIG alfred webre

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http://www.gwbush.com/

Website reference: BushWatch

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http://www.trufax.org/w12.html

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[CTRL] Planet Bush

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.bushfiles.com/bushfiles/PlanetBush.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.bushfiles.com/bushfiles/PlanetBush.html"Texas
 Observer, December 5: Planet Bush/A
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Planet Bush


BY PAUL JENNINGS



College Station, November 6

Bright blue Texas skies, American flags popping in the breeze, fresh-faced
college kids belting out popular songs from the previous century, strutting
cadets with spit-shined boots. They're pulling out all the stops for the
dedication of the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum Center on the
campus of Texas AM in College Station, and the results are impressive, if
not downright scary. It's what you might get if the 700 Club started opening
Planet Hollywood franchises.

We've got everything you need for a serious public ceremony these days:
satellite dishes, metal detectors, cases of bottled water, live internet
feeds, commemorative T-shirts, sharpshooters on the rooftops. There's a
complicated system of security passes that no one seems to understand in its
entirety: twelve different colors, each color denoting a precise set of
rights and privileges regarding parking places, seating arrangements, and
access to the different classes of porta-potties. A temporary chain-link fence
 serves to keep the merely curious at a distance. In the state-of-the-art
media center, reporters can fax in pages from the press guide while snacking
on cold cuts supplied by a corporate sponsor.

From the dedication site itself you can see a steady stream of private jets,
landing at a nearby airport to deposit their loads of wealthy contributors.
An improvised jitney service of limos and full-sized Suburbans whisk them
away to special V.I.P metal detectors. There, humorless Secret Service men go
about the grim task of frisking the rich.

Even among the most jaded media types there is visible evidence of spines
being tingled. This is, after all, the mother of all photo ops: four
presidents, six first ladies, governors, generals, senators, corporate CEOs,
university professors, television evangelists, go-to guys, and political
fixers. Plenty of professional celebrities as well: Ed McMahon, Wayne Newton,
Willard Scott, Chuck Norris, at least two of the Oak Ridge Boys. Kevin
Costner shows up wearing a dark suit and an expensive-looking T-shirt,
quickly attracting a swarm of news cameras and giggly reporters. Arnold
Schwarzenegger makes a late entrance, walking with a pronounced limp as he
makes his way down front. "Oh, he looks so much taller in the movies," one
female reporter observes, not quite under her breath.

The crowd of foreign dignitaries who turn up for the event seems a little
picked over. Mostly what we've got here is an impressive collection of
formers: former Prime Minister John Major from the U.K., former Prime
Minister Brian Mulroney of Canada, former Prime Minister Toshiki Kaifu of
Japan, former President Lech Walesa of Poland. Almost all now have popularity
ratings in their home countries that can be measured in single digits. Former
Mexican President Carlos Salinas would like to have dropped by, had it not
been for the inconvenience posed by our extradition treaty with Mexico. Of
Bush's contemporaries among world leaders, it seems only Fidel Castro and
Saddam Hussein have managed to hang on.

As the various groups of guests continue to take their seats, it's hard not
to notice how white this crowd is. Not just mostly white. Really white. Take
away Colin Powell and the AM grounds crew, and you basically have the
whitest group of people that you're likely to run across outside of a gun
show.

Of course, whiteness was just about the only glue that held together the
Bush's political universe of country clubbers, middle-class suburbanites, and
Christian fundamentalists. So maybe it's just a matter of getting comfortable
with large numbers of Republicans gathered in one place, but just about the
time you've reconciled yourself to this demographic anomaly-the Singing
Cadets, dressed in white dinner jackets and Aggie Maroon bow ties, launch
into a spirited rendition of "Dixie."

Mindful of the deadlines imposed by the evening news shows, the ceremony
kicks off crisply at 9:45 a.m. with a program of what loosely might be
described as patriotic music. This part of the festivities is hosted by Texas
AM graduate and former professional football star Ray Childress. Other than
his work on the gridiron, Childress' media experience has pretty much been
limited to television commercials for suburban car dealers, and he gamely
struggles with the pronunciation of foreign names like an offensive lineman
sent out by his coach on a pass pattern.

At 11:00 sharp, Billy Graham clears it with God, and the main ceremony gets
underway. A pledge of allegiance, more flag waving, plenty of podium time for
Bush sons and politicians Jeb and George W. Everyone hits his mark, keeps it
short, and stays on-message. Ford and Carter tell some 

[CTRL] Bush Jr.'s Skeleton Closet

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm"George W. Bush,
Jr. - The Dark Side/A
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Lots o' links
Om
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Bush Jr.'s Skeleton Closet


Click on the allegation of your choice:
-- Cocaine: felony drug use, vile hypocrisy, and a hushed up arrest?
-- His "young and irresponsible" behavior: sex, drugs and (gasp!) rock and
roll?
-- Thin skinned: Tries to censor his critics
-- Funeralgate: Lying under oath? Bush  staff stop investigation of
contributors huge funeral home company.
-- Character: Spoiled rich kid living off his family's name and reputation
-- What Did YOU Do in the War, Daddy?
-- Made millions on insider business deals, for little work
-- -- Deal #1. Personal Profits from Failing Oil Companies
-- -- -- -- Easy Money From Odd Sources
-- -- -- -- A Surprise Deal From Bahrain
-- -- -- -- Access to the President and National Security Adviser for his
foreign business partner
-- -- Deal #2. Selling Oil Stocks Just Before Iraq Invaded: lucky guess or
illegal insider trading?
-- -- Deal #3. A Big Slice of a Baseball Team
-- -- -- -- Hypocrisy: using government coercion to make his private fortune

-- Texas government corruption: State $$ for campaign funders  business
cronies
-- Quotes

-- Sources

Quotes

"There ought to be limits to freedom. We're aware of this site, and this guy
is just a garbage man, that's all he is." -- George Jr., discussing a web
site that parodies him
"[Bush Jr. hired a private detective to] determine what his opponents or the
press could find on him [and] isn't terribly thrilled [with the results.]
We're not talking about anything that would get him a spot on Jerry Springer,
no handcuffs or dwarf orgies, but he was a handsome, rich playboy and lived
that life." -- unnamed insider, quoted on MSNBC.
"It's not the governor's role to decide who goes to heaven. I believe that
God decides who goes to heaven, not George W. Bush." -- George W. Bush, in the
 Houston Chronicle.
"I didn't -- I swear I didn't -- get into politics to feather my nest or
feather my friends' nests." -- Bush Jr., in the Houston Chronicle
"I propose that every city have a telephone number 119 -- for dyslexics who
have an emergency." -- George Junior
"I hope to show Hispanics that Republicans do have a heart, but I also want
to send a message to people from around the country as to how to pick up the
Hispanic vote" -- George Junior
"He told me his brother (Texas Gov. George W. Bush) said he could kick my
butt, and I said I haven't met a Texan yet that can shame me." -- Minnesota
Governor, Navy Seal, and professional wrestler Jesse Ventura, quoting Florida
Governor Jeb Bush.
"When George moved back to Midland [after college], he bummed an office, he
bummed golf clubs, bummed shoes. You were lucky if you saw him in a clean
shirt." -- Tom Craddick, ranking Republican in the Texas House of
Representatives and longtime friend of Bush's.
"It's hard to usher in the responsibility era if you behave irresponsibly."
-- Junior, aiming at Clinton but backfiring.
"When it is all said and done, I will have made more money than I ever
dreamed I would make." -- Bush, in the Forth Worth Star-Telegram, describing
his Texas Rangers business deal.

Quote Sources


His Character: The Prodigal Son

George W. Bush, Jr. is touted as the savior of the Republican Party by the
national press, because he pulls votes from minority voters and has his dad's
name and fundraising connections to run on. But before we anoint him as the
next president, let's look at what he's done with his life. In a nutshell,
Junior
1) grew up as a very rich child of powerful parents,
2) partied from high school until he was 40,
3) made millions off of sweet insider business deals from political allies of
his dad, who happened to be the President,
and 4) got elected governor of Texas mostly because of his name.
Bush Junior has done some good work as governor of Texas. He has crossed the
partisan divide, reached out to minorities, and tackled at least one tough,
thankless issue (school financing; his plan was voted down in the
legislature.)
But 4 years -- even 4 good ones -- is a pretty short resume for the leader of
the free world. No one doubts Bill Clinton's ability to handle punishment and
come back for more. But Bush Junior's stamina and attention span are very
real concerns. Furthermore, Bush's term as governor has also been markedly
corrupt, although possibly in legal ways. What we mean is, he has taken
millions in campaign contributions from certain big businessmen -- many of
whom were in on the insider business deals that made him rich -- and those
same businessman have received billions in sweet deals from the Texas state
government during Bush's term.
Specifics: Like Al Gore, Bush Jr. attended Eastern elitist schools, in this
case Andover Prep, and Yale. According to a Newsweek profile, he "went to
Yale but seems to have majored 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

2000-02-03 Thread Ric Carter

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/A -Cui Bono?-

SkeptiNews 000203c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* No extra limbs/organs were amputated during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Secret Synth: http://members.xoom.com/angelsflight/secret/andromeda.jpg
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Doomsayers Say Grand Planet Alignment Could Crash Net. MONTREAL (NB) --
  Doomsday forecasters have shifted their attention from the Millennium Bug,
  which didn't bite, to an extraterrestrial occurrence scheduled for May 5,
  when a cluster of planets will align. Some say this has the potential of
  creating colossal cosmic forces which could severely impact our planet.
  Occurring only once every 6000 years or so, the rare alignment of Mercury,
  Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Earth, Sun, and Moon could cause a magnetic
  surge with the potential to crash power grids, blind satellites, and
  seriously disrupt radio  landline communications, taking the Internet
  down in the process. Astronomers call these fears "just a load of crap."
  Really fine shit: http://cnnfn.com/news/technology/newsbytes/143196.html

@ Maniacal Doomsday Predictions by Flaming Airhead: http://www.rnoone.com
@ Grand Alignment info http://www.badastronomy.co/bad/misc/planets.html
@ Inevitable Apocalypso: http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/tocapox7.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Workers on cigarette break see UFO. Unbelieved Flying Object. What were 8
  Fluor Daniel employees smoking when they spotted a mysterious spectrum of
  skyward lights during their cigarette break? The workers watched in awe
  as an object of light moved and rotated above their heads, as if it were
  a circular prism dangling from a skyward string, slowly turning to
  reveal another color. http://www.greenvillenews.com/news/7020300.htm

: What do you smoke to see UFOs? Will you share it with us? Do you take many
cigarette breaks? Do you see many UFOs? Are UFOs attracted to cigaret smoke?

# Small Lights Acting Erratically - Perth: http://www.caus.org/mu020300.htm
# Eau d'asteroid: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2224183
@ UnNatural Museum: Ancient Astronauts: http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/aastro.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# This Ghost Smears Vaseline On Us. A FAMILY say they are being terrorised
  by an invisible creature which moves their beds  breaks objects in their
  home. "When we sleep blankets are removed from us  our bodies are smeared
  with lotions which are in the house," said father of four Masite Sejake.
  "Sometimes Vaseline is smeared on us." Eldest son attacked by a tokoloshe;
  see http://www.suntimes.co.za/2000/01/30/news/gauteng/njhb16.htm

: Have many ghosts attacked you lately? Do they slime you? Where do they get
the slime? Are they real ghosts, or are you being experimented on with mind-
control rays? Do you live near a HAARP facility? Does your head buzz? When?

@ Harness the power of mirrors for evil: Build a disgustoscope, the evil
  http://www.eskimo.com/%7Ebillb/amateur/dscope.html twin of the nice
  http://dogfeathers.com/kaleido/index.html kaleidoscope, and turn the
  reflection of your hand into an "obscenely pulsing wrinkled flesh-ball"
  with "throbbing organic orifices." http://memepool.com/Subject/Gadgets/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tibetan Pawn backs China. BEIJING (AP) A 9-year-old boy picked by China to
  be Tibet's 2nd-highest religious figure pledged support for the govt just
  weeks after another important Tibetan leader fled. "I will be a living
  Buddha who is patriotic, who cherishes education, who protects the nation
  and benefits the people," the chubby-cheeked, 11th Panchen Lama said on
  state TV. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563833608-4a7

# Japan wrestles with sumo scandal. TOKYO (AP)  In Japan, the sumo wrestling
  ring is sacred ground, blessed by priests  purified with salt before each
  bout. But a former wrestler claims Japan's nat'l sport is rife with fixed
  contests, renewing suspicions that sumo is not as clean as its image might
  suggest. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563837066-b99

: Are your religious rites/structures/beliefs manipulated? For what reasons,
for whose benefit? Are all belief systems [political, economic, religious,
artistic, athletic] rigged? Are they all just tools for power and wealth??

@ The Politics of Religion: http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/tocapred.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# NoHand http://www.bme.freeq.com/people/nohand/index.html has amputated
  his own fingers, hand, half of his foot (since lost entirely), part of
  his genitals, and has "accidentally" lost his left leg below the knee
  and his right above the knee. Extreme, yes, but he's not alone in his
  

[CTRL] Britlandia: Corporalism

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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/A -Cui Bono?-

www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain
Department of Health issues guidelines to British parents on how to smack their
children
By Tania Kent
2 February 2000

Back to screen version

Children's charities and pressure groups have condemned a new Department of
Health consultation document, which outlines how parents can smack their
children in an "acceptable" way.

The guidelines were issued in response to a ruling by the European Commission
of Human Rights that an English court had breached article three of the
European Convention on Human Rights by acquitting a man who had repeatedly beat
his nine-year-old stepson with a three-foot cane. The English court had
accepted the stepfather's defence that his attack constituted “reasonable
chastisement”.

Article three states, “No one shall be subjected to torture or inhuman or
degrading treatment”. The European Court upheld the child's complaint that his
human rights had been breached. Under the current UK law, which dates back to
1861, a child can be hit, thumped or struck if the parent can satisfy a court
that this constituted “reasonable chastisement”.

The Department of Health document, which will become law, is meant to clarify
how the defence of “reasonable chastisement” is defined, and when it can be
used. Whilst the document contains measures that may eventually lead to a ban
on hitting a child with an implement, such as a cane or belt, it states that
parents may hit their children with their hands, provided the blows are not
made to the head and do not leave marks. The document leaves open whether this
rule should also apply to babies.

Defending the guidelines, Health Minister John Hutton told the BBC, “Parents in
this country want the opportunity to be able to issue a mild rebuke to their
children in the context of a loving, stable family relationship.” He said that
the upbringing of children should be a private matter for parents.

Children's organisations have condemned the recommendations, however. Kate
Harper of Save the Children Fund attacked the government's refusal to ban
smacking, explaining that “years of experience show that smacking doesn't work.
It can have a very detrimental outcome on a child's development.

“We have carried out extensive consultations with children on smacking and
found that children see no distinction between smacking, hitting, slapping and
a whack.” In a report published by the charity, 19 out of the 76 children
consulted said they had been smacked on the head, face or cheek.
The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children said, “We are
hugely disappointed that the government's paper rules out the option of giving
children the same legal protection from assault as adults.”

The physical punishment of children has been banned in eight European
countries: Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Cyprus, Croatia, Latvia
and Italy. In addition, Germany, Bulgaria, Belgium and Ireland are all
processing legislation to protect children from physical rebukes. Corporal
punishment was outlawed 14 years ago in state schools in Britain, and last year
in the private education sector.

Extensive studies on the detrimental impact of hitting children have been
published within Britain and internationally. In the United States, where
corporal punishment is legal in several states, one study published by the
National Centre for Study of Corporal Punishment, The Case Against Spanking:
How to discipline your child without hitting, reported critical findings:

* Frequent and harsh spanking is consistently found to be present in the lives
of boys who are aggressive and disobedient, who lie, cheat, are destructive
with their own and others' belongings and who associate with friends prone to
delinquency.

* Spanking can cause young children to bottle up feelings of fear, anger and
hostility. In later life these children are prone to suicidal thoughts, suicide
and depression.

* Despite the age or gender of the child; the family's social class or
ethnicity; whether the child was hit frequently or rarely, severely or mildly;
whether there were high or low levels of interaction and affection in the home;
and regardless of the degree to which specific situational variables may have
mitigated the effects of punishment, spanking consistently contributes to
lowered self-esteem.

* In toddlers, many punitive approaches, including spanking, do not result in
compliance, but end simply in the administration of the punishment.

* Children who are physically punished are more likely to grow up approving of
violence and use it to settle interpersonal conflicts. Even children who
experience “normal” spankings (i.e., those which the government finds
acceptable) are almost three times as likely to seriously assault a sibling,
compared to children who are not physically disciplined.

* Younger children are hit most often; spanking slowly decreases until late

[CTRL] Fw: The Pyramid of Evil

2000-02-03 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
/A -Cui Bono?-

===
The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU
FROM WEEK TO WEEK

The Pyramid of Evil



Aleksandar Djaja

Authentic video-material on Chechen terrorist slaughter-house, which was
broadcast by one of ours TV station, exceeds by the horror and shock
everything else that has been seen on our electronic media so far. No doubt
this kind of radical move will provoke polemics: is it acceptable to
broadcast the truth about evil, no matter how cruel it is, by free
electronic signal accessible to everyone, even children? In spite of
correct
and professional warnings that were broadcast all day.
 Of course, the West (to which the truth is the last priority) already
condemns the use of "inadequate measures" of the Russian federal forces
against the Chechen "guerrilla"(!?) This is the same strategy that was
applied by leading Western media, while brutal attack on Serbia was being
prepared, which were criticizing for months "the excessive use of force" by
the Serbian police in Kosmet in clash with ethnic Albanian terrorist gangs,
which were dramatically represented as "brave fighter for freedom" from
Kosmet "Sherwood forests"!
 After this kind of Hollywood show, which we experienced ourselves, the
bombs were next. What will happen to our Russian brothers, they will be
able
to see and feel for themselves. I want to believe that this kind of big and
scarcely populated country there is at least one person that is not dealing
only with equilibrium of receiving crumbs of U.S. credits and free
deliveries of food.

SAME RECIPES AND KITCHEN

 In fact, we have all seen it already: what is happening in the North
Caucasus started in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and continued in Kosovo and
Metohija. Metastasis of the New World Order continues to destroy the state
and national tissue of Russia, using Chechnya  as per the old recipe of
"protection of human rights", preventing of the alleged "humanitarian
catastrophe", fight against terrorism and separatism - and, in fact,
support
to religious and civilization differences, encouraging and financing of
terrorism, attempt to violently and bloody tear off a part of a sovereign
state (like Kosmet from Yugoslavia)or, tomorrow, Chechnya from Russia
Interests of transnational capital (that has just started for the almost
inexhaustible wealth of the East) not only exceed the basic morality,
humanity, historical and patriotic conscience but also every individual
feel8ing of its actors toward their own national identity. For them it is
definitely irrelevant that the kidnapped hostages, the victims of Chechen
terrorists and butchers, apart from the Russians, were also all other
Christians, the citizens of the Western, their world. If that is so, and it
is, what can one expect from KFOR and UNMIK missions in Kosmet, that are
just extended arms of the same transnational capital? To protect the Serbs?
To prevent the new abductions and murders? To find and release the
kidnapped
citizens of the Province, if they are still alive? If they haven't  ended
on
the white-slaves markets or served as "donors" of medical organs for dying
millionaires all over the world? And all this in the organization and
realization of the so-called KLA (and some members of KFOR) - an authentic
terrorist Islam fundamentalist organization - by UNMIK desperately turned
into the "corps" for extinguishing of smaller fires and writing tickets for
bad parking..!

"LOVE AFFAIR" OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER

 This unnatural affairs between Islamic fundamentalism and American
imperialism is almost unreal, absurd, even morbid. In their statements,
they
are deadly enemies! Islamic terrorist and American public enemy No.1, Osama
Bin Laden, allegedly responsible for the attacks on American embassies and
on whose head Americans are ready to pay dearly - is financing American
allies in Kosmet - ethnic Albanian terrorists. And the Talibans, from whom
Washington, under the threat of sanctions want to extradite bin Laden -
are,
in fact, American child, created, financed and armed in Afghanistan, for
attacking Russians and the legal government in Kabul!
 So, it is more than sure that the current unnatural "love affair" between
the USA and the so-called  KLA, that by its civilization, religious and
moral weirdness represents political unique item in this century - must end
badly. For whom - it is not hard to guess.
 "State terrorism in the West is has deep roots", says author Zoran
Gluscevic. "The use of pirates, then colonial wars, have been for hundreds
of years influencing the creation of habits and measures of the use of
force
and brutality, which was special characteristic of the Greatr Britain. In
the circumstances




Secretary General
Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
Art  historian
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[CTRL] EuroCorps

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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Via http://www.centraleurope.com/features.php3?id=131406

{{Begin}}
February 3, 2000
Europeans Set to Take Military Control In Kosovo
By Roland Eggleston

NATO has invited a fledgling European military alliance, the Eurocorps, to take
day-to-day command of the international peacekeeping force in Kosovo for six
months. RFE/RL correspondent Roland Eggleston reports from Munich that the
details of the plan still need to be worked out.

The Eurocorps is made up of troops from five countries: Germany, France, Spain,
Belgium, and Luxembourg, and is currently under the command of a Spanish
general. Until now, it has existed mostly on paper although in theory it can
call on 60,000 soldiers for defense operations.

NATO has now invited the corps to take day-to-day control of the 44,000-strong
peacekeeping force in Kosovo. It will assume the role in April and hold it
until September.

A NATO spokesman (unnamed) in Brussels describes the move as an important step
forward in giving Europe a more significant role in international military
projects.

The spokesman says Europe wants to be a full partner of the U.S. and NATO in
international operations. The role in Kosovo, he says, is a move toward making
that ambition a reality.

NATO has overall control of the Kosovo operation and this is not expected to
change. NATO's supreme commander, U.S. General Wesley Clark, will remain
responsible for the peacekeeping force, but the five members of the Eurocorps
will control day-to-day operations.

U.S. troops in Kosovo will come under the command of the Eurocorps during the
six-month operation. The Russian contingent in Kosovo is expected to do the
same.

The Eurocorps will assign 350 officers to the headquarters of the Kosovo
operation. Other countries which are not members of the Eurocorps, particularly
Britain, will also provide staff. The United States and NATO will also assign
officers to the corps.

The German Defense Ministry tells RFE/RL that several details remained to be
resolved. These will be discussed in Munich this weekend by NATO Secretary-
General George Robertson, the secretary-general of Europe's common security
organization, Javier Solana, and the defense ministers of the United States,
Britain, and Germany.

The men will meet in private on the sidelines of the annual "Wehrkunde"
conference on security policy. The situation in Kosovo is the main theme of the
conference.

The NATO spokesman says Britain, France, and Germany all pressed hard for the
Eurocorps to be given the opportunity to run the day-to-day operations. All are
advocates of a stronger European defense role, although they say they do not
wish to undermine NATO's supremacy in military matters.

Ultimately, they believe some international operations could be undertaken by
European ground forces, with the United States' role confined to air power and
electronic intelligence.

In December, the European Union approved proposals for the creation of a
European rapid reaction force which could be dispatched to crisis situations
within 60 days and remain in place for two years.

Britain, France, and Germany believe a basic force of about 50,000 troops could
be operational by 2003.
Defense experts say the need for a stronger European military presence was
evident during the NATO operation in Kosovo last year. They say the crisis made
plain the weakness of the Europeans in almost all military fields and its
dependence on the United States when a crisis erupts.
Copyright (c) 2000 RFE/RL, Inc. Reprinted with the permission of Radio
FreeEurope/Radio Liberty, 1201 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington DC 20036.


{{End}}

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[CTRL] NASA Now States Series Of CME's Occurred Last Week

2000-02-03 Thread DIG alfred webre

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CMEs Mitch Battros describes could have devastating effects on
satellites, powergrids, and EWAR devices (;-)).  One 1988 CME knocked out
the power grid in Quebec (the size of France...)...Alfred

Just In...NASA Now States Series Of CME's Occurred Last Week...02/03/00
by Mitch Battros  (ECTV)

NASA just came out today disclosing a series of CME's (coronal mass
ejections) had occurred last week starting on January 28th. Why did they
wait until now to disclose what could have been devastating to
satellites and power grids? What else have they NOT disclosed. How could
this not have been shown on the several SOHO and other solar activities
sites we all have access to? Are we being played the fool? Is there
indeed more to the story?

Is it just a coincidence this story came out just one day after our
report of a scientist who alleges to be close to the case, came out with
information suggesting NASA has been withholding solar activity
measurements due to "national security"? How will this latest series
affect our weather? Once again, so many questions, too few answers. Will
the NASA public relations EVER get it right? You would think they would
understand the nature of man. When a void is created, we will fill it
in. It's our nature. Perhaps there is a struggle within NASA over the
issue of disclosure vs lies and disinformation.

It is my belief there is an event or series of events that are just
around the corner. I believe a solar event that NASA, nor any other
government agency will be able to hide. I believe there is an internal
struggle on how to gently let the public in on it. Time is running out
and squabbles are beginning to occur.

Reminder, all science and their findings are presumed "subjective
conjecture". Do not follow my truth, or anyone else. Follow Your
Truth...   More to come!

NASA Space Science News...02/03/00

NASA - Beginning on January 28, 2000, SOHO recorded a series of dramatic
solar coronal mass ejections (CMEs) as the Sun belched billions of tons
of hot gas into interplanetary space. One of them, sighted on January
31, displayed swirling loops reminiscent of Bilbo Baggins's most elegant
smoke rings.

Coronal mass ejections can carry up to 10 billion tons of plasma
traveling at speeds as high as 2000 km/s. When they collide directly
with Earth they can excite geomagnetic storms, which have been linked to
satellite communication failures. In extreme cases, such storms can
induce electric currents in the Earth and oceans that can interfere with
or even damage electric power
transmission equipment.

Fortunately, none of the latest CMEs were headed in our direction.
Earth-directed mass ejections produce what astronomers call "Halo
events." As they loom larger and larger they appear to envelope the Sun
itself.

The recent batch of CMEs -- mostly seen in profile -- look very much
like expanding tangled loops. While there is some visual similarity to
smoke rings, the physics of a CME is different. Common down-to-Earth
smoke rings are spinning doughnut-shaped bundles of unmagnetized,
neutral gas. They have lower pressure on the inside than the outside,
and can travel considerable
distances as they expand and dissipate into the surrounding air. On the
other hand, gas inside a coronal mass ejection is completely ionized and
permeated by strong magnetic fields. The magnetic forces dominate the
movements and structure of the plasma. Most of the loops seen in a CME
are hot glowing gas trapped inside curved magnetic fields.

Mitch Battros
Producer - Earth Changes TV
http://www.earthchangesTV.com

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Re: [CTRL] Stich and . . .

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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FYI:  SoftSkull Press has begun shipping *Fortunate Son:  George W. Bush and
the Making of An American President*  $16.50 @ www.softskull.com

AER


 Drugging America;
 Defrauding America;
 Unfriendly Skies, by Rodney Stich

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Re: [CTRL] guidelines for survivors

2000-02-03 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Below please find the article, "The Re-experiencing Experience - Guidelines
for Trauma Survivors."

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

The Re-experiencing Experience - Guidelines for Trauma Survivors, is
available at http://idealist.com/wounded_healer/wills.shtml, Sharon Wills,
Ph.D., and Jean M. Goodwin, M.D. Violence Recovery Program, University of
Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, TX 77555-0428, "many people who have
survived traumatic events often continue, even many years later, to
re-experience elements of the trauma whenever they are confronted with
situations in which they have emotional and physical feelings similar to ones
experienced during the traumatic event."


Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list.
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[CTRL] Britlandia: Section 28

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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This is more about the Britlanders' controversery over Section 28 and the
Blairites' moves to repeal it.  Beyond the local ('over there') political
struggle, there seems to be some other interesting characters making cameo
appearances ... AER

www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain
Britain's religious right campaigns to defend anti-gay "Section 28" legislation
By Steve James
3 February 2000
Back to screen version

Conflict over the Blair government's proposal to repeal “Section 28”, a law
barring local authorities from "promoting" homosexuality, continues to rage.
The Conservative Party and Christian right have launched a homophobic tirade
against the repeal of the clause.

At the weekend, Scottish multi-millionaire and Christian fundamentalist Brian
Souter, who has helped finance a "Keep the Clause" campaign, was interviewed by
the Scotland on Sunday newspaper. Presenting himself as a moral crusader,
Souter claimed that he was willing to relinquish all his wealth to ensure the
clause is retained. Obviously not intending to do so just yet, he announced a
new campaign fund, and warned that he was ready to take the issue "into the
streets" with demonstrations, protests, etc.

Souter has recruited London's former police commissioner, and ex-president of
the National Bible Society, David McNee, and a former director of Rangers
Football Club, Hugh Adams, as fund trustees. “If the government bunkers down it
will get worse for them,” he said.

"Keep the Clause" has also recruited solicitor Peter Watson to mount legal
challenges against the legislation's repeal. The intention is to hold up any
change in the law until next year, when Section 28 could be made an issue in
the UK general election.

Watson was the lawyer responsible for advising the US right-wing evangelist and
homophobe, Pat Robertson, during his abortive relationship with the Bank of
Scotland. The planned tele-banking deal collapsed in the face of widespread
popular opposition, particularly from gay and civil rights groups, who
publicised many of Robertson's reactionary social and political statements.
Robertson had lashed out at his opponents, describing Scotland as a "dark land"
run by homosexuals.

Over the weekend, more of Britain's religious leaders joined the campaign
against repeal. Britain's chief rabbi Jonathan Sacks claimed it would undermine
morality, whilst the Moslem Council of Britain and Om Parkash Sharman,
president of the National Council of Hindu Temples, said that homosexuality was
"unnatural."

The Labour government has not challenged such statements. Whilst the government
still intends to put the issue to a parliamentary vote, it has assured the anti-
repeal coalition that it accepts their "concerns" and will make provision for
them. Education Minister David Blunkett announced that new guidelines would be
issued to schools to replace Section 28. These would promote "marriage and
traditional family life".

A spokesman for Blair said parents could remove their children from classes
that cover sexuality. Scotland's Education Minister Sam Galbraith has even
promised to include religious representatives in a "working group" to discuss
guidelines for future sex education lessons in schools.

A Church of England spokesman indicated their agreement with this approach.
"The deal that is being done...is that we won't go to the wire over Section 28,
in exchange for greater clarity over the guidelines," he said.
In another attempt to placate the right, Blair had earlier indicated that the
vote in parliament would be "free", i.e., there would be no party whip imposed.

Some Labour MPs complain that this is a retreat, since the matter was one of
government policy. It was subsequently agreed that while Labour will keep to a
party line, those who breach it will not face any action.
Meanwhile, Sunday's Observer noted that, following the clause's introduction by
Thatcher's Conservative government, the offices of the London Capital Gay
newspaper were burnt down. A survey last year suggested that half of all
lesbian and gay people under 18 had been subject to a violent attack in the
last five years. Yet only one school in 20 has any policy for dealing with
homophobic abuse.

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[CTRL] Fw:Expanded EU Visa Ban List

2000-02-03 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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 Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 08:42

 Subject: SN81:Expanded EU Visa Ban List

 EU "VISA BAN LIST" - RESTRICTIVE MEASURES FRY, DECEMBER 1999

 FRY : Restrictive measures / 4Visa Ban List4 / 2232.
 Council - GENERAL AFFAIRS

 Press Release: Brussels (06-12-1999) - Nr: 13590/99

 THE COUNCIL OF THE EUROPEAN UNION,

 Having regard to Common Position 1999/318/CFSP adopted
 by the Council on 10 May 1999 concerning additional
 restrictive measures against the Federal Republic of
 Yugoslavia (FRY) and in particular Article 1(1)
 thereof, in conjunction with Article 23(2) of the
 Treaty on European Union,

 Whereas:
 (1) By implementing Decision No 1999/319/CFSP the
 Council adopted a list of persons reported for
 non-admission in the Member States;
 (2) This list needs to be updated,

 HAS ADOPTED THIS DECISION:

 Article 1

 Article 1 of Decision 1999/319/CFSP shall be replaced
 by the following:

 "Article 1
 The persons to which the obligation of non-admission
 referred to in Article 1 of Common Position
 1999/318/CFSP applies are the following:

 Milosevic Slobodan President of FRY

 Milosevic's family

 Gajic-Milosevic Milica Daughter-in-law
 Markovic Mirjana Wife
 Milosevic Borislav Brother
 Milosevic Marija Daughter
 Milosevic Marko Son

 FRY Government

 Aleksic Milutin Director of the Administrative Service of the
   Federal Government
 Aleksov Ivan Assistant Federal Minister for Telecommunications
 Andrejevic Goran Assistant Federal Minister for Communications
 Antic Bozidar Deputy Minister, Ministry of Trade (Foreign)
 Beko Milan Minister of Economy
 Bogdanovic Radmilo Head of Committee on Security of Federal Parliament
 Bozovic Srdja Speaker, Federal Chamber of Republics
 Bulatovic Gordana Deputy Federal Minister for Refugees, Displaced
   Persons, and Humanitarian Aid
 Bulatovic Momir Prime Minister
 Bulatovic Pavle Minister of Defence
 Crni Branko Senior Adviser in the Ministry of the Interior
 Djeric Velizar Minister of Sport
 Djokic Nenad Former Member
 Dragas Mirjana Deputy Minister, Ministry of Labour, Health and Social
   Security
 Drobnjakovic Dejan Minister for Transport
 Eric Milovan Minister of Internal Trade
 Etinski Rodoljub Chief Legal Adviser at Ministry of Foreign Affairs
 Filipovic Rade Former Member
 Gojkovic Maja Deputy Prime Minister
 Jankovic Nikola Assistant Federal Minister for the Economy
 Jevtic Milan, Maj-Gen Head of Administration, Ministry of Defence
 Jojic Petar Minister of Justice
 Jovanovic Perisa (born 1946) Federal Secretary for Legislation
 Jovanovic Zivadin Minister of Foreign Affairs
 Karaicic Zora Assistant Minister in the Ministry for Transport
 Kikic Zoran Director of European Department, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
 Kljajic Zoran Deputy Federal Minister for Development, Science and
   Environment
 Knezevic Zoran Former Member
 Korac Maksim Assistant Minister, Ministry of Labour, Health and Social
   Security
 Kostic Jugoslav Minister without Portfolio
 Kovac Miodrag Minister of Labour, Health and Social Security
 Kutlesic Vladan Deputy Prime Minister
 Latinovic Dusan Deputy Minister, Ministry of Justice
 Lazic Zoran Secretary of the Federal Ministry for Foreign Trade
 Levovic Zlatko Assistant Federal Minister for Agriculture
 Lilic Zoran Deputy Prime Minister
 Marjanovic Predrag Deputy Federal Minister of Finance
 Markicevic Slavenko Deputy Minister, Ministry for Telecommunications
 Markovic Dragan Without portfolio
 Markovic Ivan Minister of Telecommunications
 Markovic Milisav Deputy Minister, Ministry of the Interior
 Matic Goran Without portfolio
 Minic Milomir Speaker, Federal Chamber of Citizens
 Mirkovic Cedomir Minister of International Cultural and Scientific
   Cooperation
 Nikcevic Zelidrag Minister without Portfolio
 Nikolic Tomislav Deputy Prime Minister
 Nogo Sreto Secretary of the Federal Ministry for Communications
 Novakovic Zoran Deputy Minister, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
 Ognjanovic Vuk Minister without Portfolio
 Popovic Ljiljana Assistant Federal Minister for Refugees, Displaced
   Persons and Humanitarian Aid
 Popovic Ljubisa (born 1952) Secretary-General of the Federal Government
 Radic Marinko Director of Federal Market Inspections
 Radojevic Dojcilo Former Member
 Radulovic Radomir Assistant of the Federal Secretary for Information
 Rasajski Slavenko Deputy Minister for Telecommunication
 Sainovic Nikola Deputy Prime Minister
 Savovic Margit Minister without Portfolio
 Sekulic Dusko Assistant Federal Minister for Internal Affairs
 Simovic Svetozar Deputy Federal Minister for Internal Affairs
 Sipovac Nedeljko Minister of Agriculture
 Sljapic Nada Minister for Development, Science and Environment
 Sokolovic Zoran Minister of Internal Affairs
 Stankovic Nenad Head of the International department in the Federal
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[CTRL] Grandmoms resisted thought of taking Elian (fwd)

2000-02-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Published Thursday, February 3, 2000, in the Miami Herald

Grandmoms resisted thought of taking Elian

BY ELAINE DE VALLE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

A week after the much-publicized visit between Elian Gonzalez and
his two grandmothers, the women said in an interview with Cuban
television that they were tempted to grab the boy in Miami and
not let him go.

But, they said, they had to respect the agreements they had made.

``Weren't you tempted to grab your grandson and not let them take
him?'' journalist Arleen Rodriguez Derivet asked.

Mariela Quintana, Elian's paternal grandmother, admitted the
thought crossed their minds. ``We knew that we couldn't do it, we
had to follow the rules, and at no time did we not follow them,''
she said. Quintana returned Sunday to Cuba along with Raquel
Rodriguez, the boy's maternal grandmother.

Quintana added that their goal was to ``see the boy, be with him,
but never to break the law.''

Other details from the 90-minute meeting revealed Wednesday
shocked and angered his Miami relatives, said family spokesman
Armando Gutierrez.

He referred to a particular comment by Quintana.

Quintana said in the interview that she did some ``mischievous
things'' so that Elian would talk.

She wanted to see ``if he had no little tongue,'' she said. ``I
took it out of his mouth, I bit it.'' Then she asked to see his
private parts, presumably to see how much he had grown.

``If you want to see how he's grown, you measure him. You don't
go inside his pants,'' Gutierrez said.

``I am so surprised by this. So much hassle to see their
grandson, and instead of kissing him and hugging him they are
biting his tongue and taking his thing out?

``It's left me dumbstruck.''

He said he didn't believe that they were trying to determine the
boy's growth in the two months that he has been away from them.

``I don't know if they were looking to see if he was wired, if he
was bugged,'' Gutierrez added.

He said the boy's great-uncle, Lazaro Gonzalez -- with whom the
child has been staying after being plucked from the sea on
Thanksgiving Day -- saw the interview on Spanish-language Channel
23 and was ``disturbed [and] upset and he is surprised that they
used those precious moments with him to do that.''

Neither Lazaro Gonzalez nor his daughter Marisleysis Gonzalez,
who family members say has become a sort of surrogate mother for
Elian, could be reached for comment Wednesday night. But
Gutierrez said he had not asked the boy about the meeting with
his grandmothers.

``I have not asked the boy anything about that visit because when
he went to that meeting he was scared and when he came out he was
relaxed a little bit that he wasn't taken back to Cuba,''
Gutierrez said. ``So I don't talk to him about it. I talk to him
about sports and school and high-fives -- little things that kids
like to hear.''

Gutierrez said the grandmothers' interview was also full of lies.
For instance, they said they had not been able to talk to Elian
on the telephone for more than four days. ``And that is just not
true,'' Gutierrez said.

Herald wire services contributed to this report.


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Re: [CTRL] Commission Urges Consolidation

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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This makes very good sense from an overhead and duplicative role standpoint.
Yet, knowing aspects of the system, there would be a lessening of the
objectivity of the agencies, primarily because of the political choices to be
made.  Of course, there would be less competition between the agencies
(withholding information being a tool or weapon) but the guy/gal in charge
would have a particularly difficult challenge in balancing the political
priorities -- who does what best and how to preserve/let go of the best/worst
aspects.  The best thing to do would be to leave things as they are and
increase cooperation between the different elements.  This is the same story
with the military:  collect similar functions, each under a separate part,
rather than having each service manage the similar but different pieces on
their own.  One is also reminded of them olden dayze when John Edgar ran the
show and monopolised as much as he could.  In an open society, competition is
good; consolidation is less costly ($$$) but all eggs in one basket, et cetera,
et cetera ...

AER

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 http://www.foxnews.com/national/020200/fbi.sml
 Commission Urges Consolidation
 Of Law Enforcement Agencies
 7:24 a.m. ET (1224 GMT) February 2, 2000 By Jim Abrams
 WASHINGTON - The global dimensions of crime require that the attorney
 general and the FBI extend their authority over other law enforcement
 agencies such as the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, according to
 a congressional report.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Tales of the Lust crusade - The Pale Abyssian

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan






Note:
James Bruce, related to Robert the Bruce, was reputed to have brought some 
very important Masonic papers, or papers which were important to the 
Masonic movement in Scotland at that time.
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Tales of the Lust crusade.
by
Trevor Grove

He was a real Indians Jones who saw his adventures as an excuse for sexual 
conquest. But as a new book reveals, James Bruce was one of Britain's 
greatest ever explorers

Had Scotsman James Bruce not been such a remarkable man he might be 
better-known today. As the discoverer of the source of the Blue Nile in 
1770, his name would be up there with those heroes of the following 
century, Livingstone, Speke and Burton.

But Bruce was remarkable, provokingly so. He was big, boastful, cocksure 
and larger than life in every way. His adventures as an explorer, fighter 
courtier and womaniser were astounding He comes across as a sort of 18th 
century Indiana Jones, crossed with Casanova.

So amazing were his exploits that many contemporaries dismissed his 
accounts as fantasy. Only after his death, were the magnitude of Bruce's 
achievements acknowledged.

Now a new biography by Miles Bredin has retraced his hair-raising journeys. 
Based on Bruce's own journals, they make extraordinary reading.

Bruce was born in Stirlingshire in 1730, but brought up in England and 
educated at Harrow, before joining the wine trade. Restless after the death 
of his wife, he took to exploration.

Whether in European dress or the native robes he loved to affect, Bruce was 
striking to look at: 6ft 4in, broadchested and red-haired. He was a skilled 
horseman, a deadly shot and an indefatigable lover.

The list of his accomplishments is astonishing. By the time he set off for 
Abyssinia in Search of the source of the Nile, he could speak 11 languages 
and was a good geographer, astronomer historian, linguist, botanist, 
ornithologist and cartographer. He had learned medicine and, though he took 
a young Italian artist, he could also draw and paint himself-which was just 
as well since the Italian died before their return, murdered, rumour had 
it, by the hot-tempered Bruce himself.

Ethiopia, or Abyssinia as it then was had had almost no contact with the 
outside world for more than 130 years when James Bruce and his small party 
arrived at the Red Sea port of Massawa in 1769. The last white people to be 
allowed a foothold in the region had been Portuguese Jesuits, who had been 
thrown out in 1632.

Since then the country had remained in medieval barbarousness.

Just what this meant Bruce was to discover, when the ruler of Massawa held 
them hostage for two months in the abominable African heat, demanding gold 
in exchange for their lives. It was behaviour to which Bruce would soon 
become accustomed.

Again and again over the coming months, it was only his medical skills 
backed up by pistols, blunderbusses diplomacy and his winning ways with 
womenfolk that saved him and his followers from being hacked to death.

In November, they got away from Massawa and headed towards Gondar, the 
imperial capital, lugging Bruce's hefty scientific instruments across the 
mountains until they entered Tigre where the bloodthirsty dictator Ras 
Michael ruled in the name of the 15year-old king, Tecla Haimanout II.

One of Michael's underlings met them en route and introduced Bruce to more 
genial aspects of Ethiopian life. They got drunk together on the local 
mead, and enjoyed the favours of some local village girls.

Bruce had asked the girls how many kisses they would give him in exchange 
for the beads he had brought for barter. 'We will give you as many as you 
wish for nothing,' they answered, and proceeded to prove to the large, 
friendly Scot that they were 'very fair and liberal dealers'.

Throughout his travels, Bruce seemed to make the most of such opportunities 
and to be rather proud of his promiscuousness. Later in his journey he 
relates being instructed on the traditions of Abyssinian hospitality by a 
local chieftain: 'It is a custom that a stranger of distinction, like you 
when he is their guest, sleeps with the sister, daughter, or near relation 
of the principal men among them.'

In February 1770, after Eve months of toil and danger, Bruce's party 
reached the capital, only to find themselves in a civil war, with Ras 
Michael righting a rebel governor and the royal family ravaged by smallpox.

This was a splendid opportunity for Bruce, a dab hand at inoculation, 
fumigation and other contemporary means of treating the disease. As a 
result of his successful ministrations, he not only became firm friends 
with the Iteghe, or Queen Mother, but also her daughter Ozoro Esther, whose 
favourite child he saved from death. Although Princess Esther was the wife 
of the tyrannical Ras Michael, she and Bruce became fast friends.

Some days later Esther's husband, the 'lean, old and apparently 
much-fatigued' Ras Michael rode his 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

2000-02-03 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000203d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* No terrorists were overly-taxed during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Chain Letter Evolution: http://www.silcom.com/~barnowl/clevo/start.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Solar Smoke Rings. (NASA) The Sun put on a dynamic show this week
  with a scintillating shiny series of swirling coronal mass ejections
  (CMEs) that expelled billions of tons of hot gas into interplanetary
  space.  See http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast03feb_1.htm

@ When Flesh, Blood Fell From The Sky. Falls of flesh and blood from the sky
  would generate no small amount of curiosity, even in our technologically
  advanced society acquainted with air travel. We can only imagine the con-
  sternation that such events had upon people in the days before powered
  flight. http://www.anomalist.com/reports/fleshblood.html

: What's your favorite aerial/spatial display? Would you rather be struck by
falling flesh/blood, photons, meteorites, frozen feces, frogs, UFO pieces,
jellybeans, satellite fragments, angel poop, bee poop, hot gases, cold cash?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Net Tax May Get the Heave-Ho. (Wired) It's a matter of changing one
  sentence in existing legislation. But if Congress approves, the threat
  of Internet taxation could vanish forever. Or at least for Washington's
  idea of forever. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34075,00.html

# 'Terrorism tax' targets students. A college student scans a packed lecture
  hall and sees a sea of nameless, studious peers. An immigration official
  scans the same hall and sees potential terrorists. Starting next year, all
  foreign students  scholars on U.S. campuses, no matter how loyal, will be
  treated as suspects. They'll be fingerprinted  watched -- and they'll pay
  for the privilege. http://usatoday.com/usatonline/2203/1905481s.htm

: What's y'r favorite tax? Would you rather tax netizens, aliens, smugglers,
deities/demons, atheists, victims, students, spies, politicos, robots, me??

# Heroin-Embroidered Carpets Found. NICOSIA (Reuters) Persian carpets emb-
  roidered with heroin have been discovered by cops in Cyprus; good thing
  it wasn't anthrax: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000203/08/odd-carpets
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Efforts to know composition of iron-pillar. TIRUCHIRAPALLI: The Indhira
  Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research, (IGCAR) at Kalpakkam, near Chennai
  will undertake a detailed study of the 'wonder-iron-pillar' in New Delhi
  to unravel the mystery behind the pillar remaining corrosion-free for
  centuries: http://www.expressindia.com/news/02229500.htm

@ Weird Science 1999: Brains in Trouble - Light Me Up, Scotty - Where is
  Planet X? - Moon Struck - Really Cold-Blooded - Organic Chips - Gotcha
  Fish - Hard Black Rain - High, Wide, and Hot - Honda Hugs:
  http://www.discover.com/jan_00/gthere.html?article=featweird.html

: How come everything doesn't rust? What's your favorite scientific mystery?
Have you done any fringe research lately? Are you getting a reputation? Do
your colleagues sidle away from you at meetings, afraid to be seen with you?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Experts warn of Web surfing risk. WASHINGTON (AP) - Top US systems geeks
  warned Net users of a serious new security threat that lets hackers launch
  malicious programs on a victim's computer or capture info a person enters
  on a Web site, such as credit card numbers. The "cross-site scripting"
  threat involves evil computer code that can be hidden within innocuous-
  looking links to popular Net sites. The links can be e-mailed to victims
  or published to online discussion groups  Web pages. The vulnerability is
  especially unusual because it's not limited to warez from any particular
  company. ANY Web browser on any computer visiting a complex Web site is at
  risk. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563839878-b33

# Hackers' New Tack on Kid Porn. (Wired) Vigilante hackers who once
  promised to eliminate child pornography by any means necessary have
  abandoned their hacking ways and gone mainstream. Was it inevitable?
  http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,33869,00.html?tw=wn2203

: What's your favorite Net.risk? Are Net.risks thrilling, daunting, tiring?
Do'ya promote/promulgate Net.risks? D'ya attack users? Do you discriminate?
Are you part of a hack/porn/risk conspiracy? Are you being manipulated? Why?

@ So you landed a job in the industry. Welcome to the digital revolution!
  http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,9206,00.html?mail
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tree-Rings Show Mythic Disaster Did Occur. Oral traditions of t

Re: [CTRL] My beliefs

2000-02-03 Thread ali andrew

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Alice,

I have attended Colleges and Universities in Pennsylvania in the past. In
these "schools" I have studied comparative religions ,Philosophy,
Physics,Arabic, English, law and psychology. When I said that I didn't
"know" the Books of God I meant that to "know" is a very unique state of
consciousness. It is what Kant called becoming "the thing in and of itself".
I, as a student can see with this light that I don't "know" anything,
because I am separated from my experience, e.g.The Books of God, by the
confusion of the sensory world. David "knew" the Bible, he was a walking and
talking Book.

Please lets consider what he had to say to see if it makes sense.

Andrew
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To: ali andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: My beliefs




--- ali andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not have a great deal of knowledge of the Bible or any book of
God for that matter. My reason for wanting to study "his" message is to
see if what my heart sees can be confirmed in the material world.

Start with the book of Galatians in the New Testament. THE most
important factor in salvation is FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. Everything
else: good works, end times prophecy, the Great Commission, etc.,
follows faith. FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST is the foundation, the
cornerstone. The rest is built upon that foundation of FAITH IN JESUS
CHRIST. From that standpoint of FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, everything else
falls into place.

I will be happy to answer your questions, and help you in your
spiritual growth.

Vaya con Dios, Alice
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[CTRL] (Fwd) Cool Web Site of the Day

2000-02-03 Thread Alamaine

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Well, this is a 'blast' from the whenever ... sent by an associate of mine.
Remember:  it's PBS!

AER
--- Forwarded message follows ---
Subject:Cool Web Site of the Day
Date sent:  Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:07:08 -0800

 And people wonder what the Internet is good for!

 NUCLEAR BLAST MAPPER

 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/bomb/sfeature/mapablast.html

 It's hard to believe that kids born after 1989 will probably (we hope)
 not know the fear that the threat of a nuclear holocaust held for the
 generations before them. To youngsters today, "The Day After" will
 simply mean tomorrow. While we're all thankful that the Cold War has
 ended, the importance of teaching children about the terrible
 destruction a nuclear blast inflicts can't be underestimated. PBS has
 set up this site to show children and adults just how devastating a
 nuclear blast would be. Choose the size of the bomb you want to use,
 and then enter the address/location you want to bomb. A map shows the
 levels of radioactivity that would encircle the location, with vivid
 descriptions of the carnage that would ensue.

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[CTRL] The Conspiracy of The Final Solution to White Culture continues.

2000-02-03 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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---
 http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:29:53 -0600
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Subject: David Duke calls Rocker fine, suspension, racial discrimination


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News Advisory:

David Duke calls Rocker fine, suspension, racial discrimination

New Orleans, Louisiana, Febuary 2, 2000 ... National White civil rights
activist and president of the newly formed National Organization For
European American Rights, is calling the suspension, fine, and forced
psychiatric examination of John Rocker "a disturbing case of racial
discrimination and political intimidation."

"When Charles Barkley made vicious anti-white statements, he was not
suspended, when Reggie White made anti-gay statements he faced no fine or
suspension, and in baseball, when Roberto Alamar spit into a White umpire's
face, he was only suspended for four days compared to Rocker's 72 days
suspension," said Duke. "Baseball apparently believes it less of an offense
to spit into the face of a White person, than for a White person to simply
voice his opinions. None of the minority offenders were ordered to undergo
psychiatric testing."

The Rocker suspension was the first time a baseball player was suspended for
politically incorrect speech.
Duke says professional baseball players, don't give up their basic
constitutional right to free speech adding that "In reality, Rocker has been
punished for simply daring to say outloud what millions of Americans think."

"It is also wrong for baseball to fine Rocker and take his fine and use it
to support a political view that he opposes. When men play baseball they do
not sign on to a liberal political point-of-view. Diversity may be the new
God for some people, but there are millions of Americans who see the
increasing 'diversity' as a curse rather than a blessing. A unifying
culture, language and heritage is obviously more unified and harmonious than
a tower of Babel. Before the so-called blessings of diversity, New York City
was a far more civilized, safer, and more cultured place. Since the Third
World demographic change, New York schools, civility, safety and cultural
standards have plummeted.

For more information, please contact Don Williams at 504-626-7714 or visit
www.davidduke.com.

David Duke is a Former State Representative for Louisiana and is currently
the elected chairman for the St. Tammany Parish Republican Party in
Louisiana. He is a nationally known civil rights leader working against
discrimination and for the rights and heritage of White Americans. David
Duke is the author of the nationally acclaimed autobiography entitled "My
Awakening: A path to racial understanding."

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Re: [CTRL] NewsMakingNews - February 1, 2000

2000-02-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 02/01/2000 7:13:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 HACKER HEAVEN–SO TECHNICALLY EASY! "According to the report, Mr. Deutch
 used unclassified Macintosh computers for classified work throughout his
 tenure as director." Deutch used unclassified Mac’s at home and at the CIA
 office. An inductive tap on Deutch’s power line, at his home, could pick up
 what Deutch typed. The signals to Deutch’s monitor could be amplified and
 received. These computers were not secured by CIA security.  Hacker’s
Delight!
 HACKER HEAVEN–THE TARGET DELETES AND SHUTS UP! "The inspector general's
 report discloses that just three days after Mr. Deutch learned that his
 computer practices were under review, he deleted more than 1,000 classified
 files from his personal computers. The report also says that Mr. Deutch
 declined to be interviewed by the CIA.'s security officials." When learning
 his computer practices were under review, Deutch just deleted classified
 files from his computers, and shut up. Can it ever be determined what he
 deleted? And whether that deleted data was compromised or hacked? The Hackers
 are sleeping soundly tonight 

Man, it's a good thing Deutch isn't Chinese, or this would have been a
national emergency.  If he had been Chinese, all this classified on his PC
might have compromised our security or weapons systems or something or other.
 We'd have to put him in the slammer forever.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Commission Urges Consolidation

2000-02-03 Thread Bob Stokes

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 The Commission on the Advancement of Federal Law Enforcement recommended
 Tuesday that the law enforcement functions of the Treasury Department's ATF
 be shifted to the FBI and that the Drug Enforcement Administration become a
 separate division of the FBI.

Why do we have a Commission to advance Federal Law Enforcement, they have far
too much power now, not far from being a new Gestapo.  There are no
constitutional mandates for any of these agencies, therefore they should all
be dismantled.



 But the chairman of the five-member group, former FBI Director William H.
 Webster, said better coordination is crucial if the country is to meet the
 growing threats of global crime, terrorism and cyber-crime.

 "I have serious concerns about the readiness of the federal government to
 protect Americans and the national security" without structural changes, he
 said.

Maybe if we quit sticking our nose in other countries business there wouldn't
be any threats (real or imagined) to our country.


 The commission also criticized the recent tendency to "federalize" crimes.
 It said 40 percent of federal crimes have been put on the books since 1970
 and now total more than 3,000. "This situation threatens to overwhelm
 federal law enforcement capacities, just as dramatic and serious new law
 enforcement challenges grow in intensity."

 One of the first steps to world government is is to control individual
countries with a "iron hand" and all these federal laws are just that.  This
country was supposed to be composed of individual States with a small federal
government.

 Webster said that while such events as Ruby Ridge and Waco had become
 "metaphors" for some of the recent problems in law enforcement, they were
 only part of a larger picture that included some real successes such as law
 enforcement coordination after the 1995 bombing of the federal building in
 Oklahoma City.

Is "success" hiding the truth?

 The FBI was deeply involved in both the 1992 Ruby Ridge and 1993 Waco
 incidents. At Ruby Ridge, the wife and son of white separatist Randy Weaver
 and a deputy U.S. marshall died. At Waco, which began with a botched ATF
 raid on the Branch Davidians religious sect's complex, the FBI was in charge
 for most of the standoff that ended in the complex's destruction by fire,
 with more than 80 people dead.

Propaganda.  Randy Weaver's wife and son were murdered by a federal agency
that is out of control.  Why don't they print the truth, that 80 people were
massacred by burning them to death after gassing them excessively.

 The commission also recommended that law enforcement and intelligence
 communities better coordinate their activities, that global crime be made a
 national law enforcement priority and that Congress require that law
 enforcement agencies establish new standards for professionalism and
 integrity. 

How can these supposed "law enforcement" agencies take on "Global Crime" when
they can't even handle crime in this country?

Politicians and Politics have never been constructive in any country, the
politicians should not have a private army to push their unconstitutional
measures.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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[CTRL] LAROUCHE'S COMMITTEE FOR A New Bretton Woods

2000-02-03 Thread Linda Minor







LAROUCHE'S
COMMITTEE FOR A
NEW BRETTON WOODS
P.O. Box 89
Leesburg, VA. 20178
www.larouchecampaign.org

For more information:
Call Angela Vullo
phone: 1-800-929-7566
or fax: 1-703-771-1229
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPCOMING WEBCAST:
FRIDAY, FEB. 4, 7:30 PM (EST) – TOWN HALL MEETING IN
WILMINGTON, DELAWARE
Jan 28 -The following statement was made by Democratic Presidential
Candidate, Lyndon LaRouche, through a telephone
hook-up to delegate caucuses held in 52 Congressional districts in
California on Sunday, Jan 23, and broadcast on the Internet.
“Well, let's start with a tough note, away from the usual promises of
glory forever, which most campaigns indulge in. The fact is
that if the Democratic Party is continuing its present direction, that
it's been continuing for the past weeks, then it's assured that
the Democratic Party will not only lose the Presidential campaign,
but will also lose the Congressional campaigns by a
significant margin in the coming year, in the coming elections. The
reason is very simple. So far, as most of you know, elections
have been dominated in the United States, by about thirty-odd percent
of those who should be considered potential voters.
This thirty-odd percent, in turn, is dominated by persons in the upper
20 percent of income-brackets, the so-called suburban
vote, as Dick Morris, the former advisor to President Clinton, and
Al Gore have emphasized. The same thing is true on the
Republican side, is that people who tend to have money, or more money
than 80 percent of the population, tend to think in
terms of ‘my money,’ ‘shareholder value,’ and so forth,-- tend to be
greedy and disassociated, and look down upon their
neighbors. And they are increasingly disposed, to vote for the type
of Democrat who is of that type, that disposition, and to
vote more and more, for Republicans, particularly of the Dick Armey,
DeLay, etc., type…
“Therefore, in approaching this election campaign, knowing that, if
we do not bring a Democrat in as the next President; if we
do not take back the majority of the Congress for the Democratic Party,
there is no foreseeable future for the United States
and its people. Because only with a President in the spirit and tradition
of Franklin Roosevelt, only with a Congress which will
support him, however reluctantly, and only with such a President pulling
together other nations to cooperate with the United
States in reforming the international financial system and monetary
system,-- only under those conditions, can we be assured
that the nation is going to come out of the early years of this century,
in good shape, or even as a nation…
“So the question is, we have to bring together the majority, or those
who represent the majority, or typify the majority of the
American voters. We have to bring them together, not around their particular
issues as one constituency group versus another,
but to recognize that we have one thing in common. That one thing in
common, is to have a government which is committed to
the General Welfare, on behalf of all of our citizens, and their posterity.
If we can, now, break the ice, and begin to get a
significant number of people to turn out to vote, who otherwise would
not vote, who represent these constituencies from the
lower 80 percent of the family-income brackets, we have very easily
the power to overwhelm those of a contrary disposition, in both the Republican
and Democratic Party. We have the power, potentially, to change things.”

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Re: [CTRL] [last-days] John3:16

2000-02-03 Thread ali andrew




Now this is news! I am forwarding 
this to all the people that need to know the nature of this lying government. 
God is showing us over and over again who Bill Clinton really is, so that there 
will be no argument on the day of Resurrection. Truth will judge on that day and 
many will be ashamed.

Andrew

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Bob McReynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:45 PMSubject: [last-days] 
John3:16From: Bob McReynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
John 3:16  Al Gore gave a big speech a couple 
of weeks ago about how his faith isso important to 
him. In his attempt to convince the American peoplethat 
we should consider him for president, he announced that his 
favoriteBible verse is John 16:3. Of course the speech 
writer meant John 3:16 butnobody in the Gore camp was familiar 
enough with Scripture to catch theerror. Do you know what 
John 16:3 says? And they will do this because they 
have not known the Father or me. Does the Lord have a sense of 
humoror what?


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[CTRL] When the birds hit the windows

2000-02-03 Thread Mick Poirier

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This journalism site published my report:  the rest is on the site.
Mick

http://www.track0.com/cc/articles/020100poirier.html
When the Birds Hit the Windows   by Mick Poirier

  Let us preface this nonfiction piece with a few emails that Mick 
and i sent each other after
  he submitted this piece.

   Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:04:53 PST you wrote:
   hi mick

   this is very compelling and reads like a scary sci-fi story. 
when you say this is
   non-fiction are you totally serious or being satirical to make 
a point about
   technology? in the case that you are serious, i don't ask this 
to treat you like a nut
   or belittle you. i just need to know your intentions with the 
piece.

   talk to you soon
   james

   Hello James;

   Thank you for your reply.

   The work is completely non-fiction and is a toned-down summary, 
leaving out the
   worst parts. If the subject interests you, there are other 
testimonial sites on the
   web describing similar events on every continent except maybe 
Antartica.

   My intention is to get the data known. Being close to the 
nation's capital, Ottawa,
   Canada, and being in a drug and contraband corridor, this area 
is subject to
   heavy electronics activities.

   I leave to law-enforcement agencies to do their jobs. It's the 
people I want to
   reach; the people and the doctors giving them medical care, 
that they become
   aware of what is happening, and get proper treatments for it. I 
have attended too
   many funerals. And too many of them were young people, or 
parents of young
   families.

   Mick



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  took out his rifle and shot himself. I want to tell you about the 
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Re: [CTRL] MANNA FROM HEAVEN

2000-02-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 nessie wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
  
  the taste of it was like wafers made with honey(l6: 31)
 
  Have you ever eaten a psilocybe mushroom?

 Yeah, I dropped a couple caps once or twice in my late teens
 with a few friends; it's been about 10 years though. I
 remember the dried shrooms did taste pretty awful, and I had
 to quickly wash it down with a glass or two of orange juice.
 I heard fresh caps don't have much of a taste.

Wrong!

After trying EVERY conceivable methos of eating those babies
without gagging, the ONLY way we ever found that was tastless
(later in life the taste of freeze dried Kubensis didn't even
really bother us that much any more), is to make a REAL ice cream
shake out of them.  That is the ONLY way that we ever found that
even the slightest taste of them is not detectable...and we tried
ALL KINDS of things using honey in my dayto no avail!



  Like wafers with honey it ain't. Trust me.

 Like the Aztecs, in order to mask the taste of the dried psilocybe mushroom, they
 supposedly ground the dried caps and stems into a fine-grain-like flour, then mixed
 this 'flour' with honey, and baked it -- "the taste of it was like wafers made with
 honey(l6: 31)". The honey also acted as a preservative, which would keep the potency
 for well over a year.

  Here's another guess:
 
  http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/science/chalice.html
 
  It's probably wrong too, but hey, who knows? Stranger things have happened.

 Look forward to reading it later on tonight when I get back. Thanks for the input

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[CTRL] TENNESSEE JUDGE ORDERS LAROUCHE ON DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY BALLOT

2000-02-03 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.larouchecampaign.org/pages/tennesseeballotpr.html

For more Information:
Call Angela Vullo
Phone:  1-800-929-7566
or fax:  1-703-771-1229
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Nashville, TN, Jan. 31 (EIRNS) TENNESSEE JUDGE ORDERS LAROUCHE ON DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY BALLOT. Election officials in Al Gore's home state were forced to
admit this morning, that Democratic Presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche
had filed sufficient valid signatures to qualify for the March 14 Democratic
presidential primary ballot. The admission comes after a month of
stonewalling by officials, who, refused to put LaRouche on the ballot as a
nationally recognized candidate, and then falsely claimed that LaRouche's
petition was 406 short of the requisite 2500 signatures.

  Furthermore, even after some election officials began to acknowledge
their negligence, the Tennessee Attorney General's office continued to
obstruct LaRouche's access to the ballot. The assistant A.G. assigned to the
case made numerous mis-representations to LaRouche's attorneys, advised
local and state election officials not to cooperate, and otherwise tried to
prevent the inevitable placement of LaRouche's name on the Democratic
primary ballot. Because of the A.G's role in perpetrating this electoral
fraud, LaRouche is demanding that the A.G. be ordered to pay all costs
associated with the case.

 Tennessee voters will now have the right to vote for LaRouche even
though its Secretary of State Riley Darnell refused to put LaRouche on the
ballot as a nationally recognized presidential candidate, relying on
national news media for his criteria to deny LaRouche ballot status. This
fits with the national pattern of disenfranchising American voters by
controlling the debate and the choice of candidates. As a result LaRouche
supporters had to petition to get access to the Tennessee ballot. This is
now the twenty-first state which has certified LaRouche's name to appear on
the Democratic presidential primary ballot.

 Today's hearing in the Davidson County chancery court was short. After
Assistant Attorney General Janet Kleinfelter begrudgingly admitted that
LaRouche had enough valid signatures, all that was left to do was to ask
Chancellor Carol L. McCoy to order the state to put LaRouche's name on the
ballot.  A written order will be signed and issued requiring Darnell to
notify all Tennessee county election administrators to put LaRouche's name
on the ballot.

 The state's concession was not easily won. LaRouche campaign volunteers
have spent the entire month of January auditing the initial county clerks'
verification process, which had reported that LaRouche's petition was 406
signatures short of the required 2500. LaRouche's campaign filed almost 5700
petition signatures on December 20, 1999 -- well in excess of the 2500
signatures required. When the LaRouche campaign learned on January 11 -- two
days before the official certification of the ballot -- that the
Commissioner of Elections Brook Thompson's office believed LaRouche would
not have sufficient valid signatures to qualify, suit was filed. The suit
was filed against Darnell, Thompson, and three Election Commissioners in
Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville), and Hamilton County
(Chattanooga), seeking an injunction from printing the ballot without
LaRouche's name on it. When campaign representatives first tried to audit
the county's verification procedures, they were denied access to the voter
registration list.  The campaign then had to purchase the database of
registered voters for these counties to conduct its own audit of the
verification process. It was revealed through this effort that hundreds of
duly registered voters who had signed the petition were not validated
through the clerks' checking.

 Today's victory in Gore's backyard is a lesson to those who think they
can get a way with rigging the election process. Americans when offered an
alternative to the media-directed clown show called the presidential
campaign, readily respond to LaRouche. Unlike the big-bucks campaign of the
so-called front runners, LaRouche offers ideas for dealing with the real
economic crisis every American faces, as well as the leadership to deal with
the cascading regional wars now unleashed across the globe. As his ideas do
get out to the public, hundreds of people are stepping up to volunteer and
to help change the way things are.

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Re: [CTRL] [last-days] John3:16

2000-02-03 Thread Mick Poirier

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 Wish She'd do it right now, so I could watch it on T.V., or maybe R.V.?
Mick
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:42:51ali andrew wrote:
Now this is news! I am forwarding this to all the people that need to know the nature 
of this lying government. God is showing us over and over again who Bill Clinton 
really is, so that there will be no argument on the day of Resurrection. Truth will 
judge on that day and many will be ashamed.

Andrew
-Original Message-
From: Bob McReynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:45 PM
Subject: [last-days] John3:16


From: Bob McReynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John 3:16 

  Al Gore gave a big speech a couple of weeks ago about how his faith is
so
  "important" to him.  In his attempt to convince the American people
that we
  should consider him for president, he announced that his favorite
Bible
  verse is John 16:3.  Of course the speech writer meant John 3:16 but
nobody
  in the Gore camp was familiar enough with Scripture to catch the
error.

  Do you know what John 16:3 says?  "And they will do this because they
  have not known the Father or me."  Does the Lord have a sense of humor
or
  what?







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[CTRL] Thumbs Down on Net Wiretaps; IETF says NO

2000-02-03 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


Message: 6
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 09:08:29 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Ed Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Raven] IETF says NO

"Thumbs Down on Net Wiretaps"
by Declan McCullagh

3:00 a.m. 3.Feb.2000 PST
WASHINGTON -- It took four months, a
grim debate, and thousands of mailing list
messages, but the group that sets
Internet standards has decided not to
support wiretapping.

The executive committees of the Internet
Engineering Task Force dismissed the idea
with characteristic understatement,
saying they would not "consider
requirements for wiretapping" in
protocols. "

source: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34055,00.html


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Re: [CTRL] TENNESSEE JUDGE ORDERS LAROUCHE ON DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY BALLOT

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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Well I say this, I hope LaRouche has a good attorney and sues for
election fraud and nails all of them...bad enough we have Larry
Flynt blackmailing congress and now corruption in the election of public
officials?

This is the kind of politics that is  evil and corrupt; they would
rather kill off a candidate with a bullet or arrange for an accident,
that to run in the race.what is Gore afraid ofthe southern
exposure perhaps?

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[CTRL] Fwd: [Fwd: [yatahey] Pine Ridge Occupation]

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones




 Wild Horse wrote:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 January 23, 2000

 Red Cloud Tribal Building, Pine Ridge Indian Reservation,
 South Dakota

 Today the Grass Roots Oglala Lakota Oyate celebrate seven
 days of sovereign immunity from the oppressive, corrupt
 Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer and members of the Tribal
 Council.

 The Grass Roots Oyate believe that traditional law
 supercedes I.R.A. (Indian Reorganization Act) government.
 They are exercising their sovereign rights under the 1868
 Fort Laramie Treaty. In a January 20th tribal court
 hearing, Grass Roots Oglala Lakota Oyate (Plaintiffs) v.
 Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer, Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs
 (Defendant), Chief Tribal Judge Patrick Lee did not ask
 the plaintiffs if they wished to waive their sovereign
 immunity. Therefore, the traditional leaders claim that
 the tribal court has recognized the plaintiffs as an
 entity, immune from removal, arrest, or prosecution.

 Today, sacred eagle staffs and a coup stick were brought
 in, which represents the societies of our traditional law
 of the sacred pipe that we stand under for guidance and
 strength. Spirits remain high in the building and they are
 standing on their original demands of removing the Tribal
 Treasurer and members of the Tribal Council.

 The Grass Roots Oyate represent the silent majority of the
 Pine Ridge Indian Reservation who believe they have
 exhausted all their remedies in seeking the removal of the
 Oglala Sioux Tribal Treasurer, Wesley "Chuck" Jacobs and
 members of the Tribal Council. On January 16, 2000, this
 group took peaceful control of the Red Cloud Tribal
 Building in Pine Ridge Agency, SD for the sole purpose of
 protecting financial records that incriminate the Tribal
 Treasurer and several members of the Tribal Council.

 The Federal Bureau of Investigation did remove some
 financial records from the Tribal Building on January 18,
 2000 at the request of the Grass Roots Oyate. They believe
 that these records will be proof of the widespread
 mismanagement and mishandling of federal monies allocated
 to the members of the Oglala Sioux Tribe.

 Mediators from the U.S. Department of Justice remain
 on-site and will continue to work with both parties to
 seek a peaceful resolution. At least one Tribal Council
 member stated publicly that he did not want the Justice
 Department here and they could go home and "those
 troublemakers" will be physically removed from the
 building.

 Meanwhile, the Grass Roots Oyate continue their peaceful
 monitoring of the Tribal Building.

 For further information, please contact Floyd Hand, or
 Dale Looks Twice, Media Relations Coordinator at (605)
 867-5303.

 As with all emails concerning the Occupation Peoples
 please forward this in its entirety to any and all
 interested parties

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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] ARIZONA PREPARES ROAD TO SECESSION DUE TO MARTIAL LAW OR CONSTITUTION SUSPENSION

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

Well maybe I move to Arizona.except I hear it is very hot.

This needs to be done in every state in the Union.

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ARIZONA PREPARES ROAD TO SECESSION DUE TO MARTIAL LAW OR CONSTITUTION
SUSPENSION

This is a bill that every state should pass. Send this to everyone you know.

Rumor Mill News Forum

Bill would pave way for Arizona to secede
Posted By: dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, 3 February 2000, at 4:04 p.m.

Just got tipped to this at Free Republic -
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3899d99743e0.htm

Arizona Central: http://www.azcentral.com/news/0203cap.shtml

Bill would pave way for state to secede

If the federal government ever abolishes the Constitution, declares martial
law or starts confiscating guns, Rep. Karen Johnson wants Arizona to be ready
to secede from the union. The Mesa Republican's proposal to dissolve the
federal government and set up a new country of sovereign states is scheduled
to be heard in the House Committee on Federal Mandates and States Rights
today.

The resolution would have to go to voters in November. If the federal
government gets out of line, Johnson proposes that 35 states could band
together to form their own government, with the Constitution as its basis.

Her plan calls for the division of the national debt and for military
personnel to return to their home states.

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[CTRL] kid porn by RV?

2000-02-03 Thread Mick Poirier

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If kids are photographed as adults are unknowingly by
remote viewing by satellite, as would indicate judging
by the entries on the voicemail database I came across,
it's going to be very hard to stop them.
see http://www.storm.ca/~mcpoirier/dbase.htm

Mick

entries related to kids and porn:
1.) KIDS, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.) kids, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3.) KIDS, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
6.) KIDSOFGAYS, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.) KIDSOFT, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
8.) KIDSOFT, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9.) KIDSPHERE, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
11.) kidsware, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.) PORN2PARTY, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.) PORNCHAIHORPRATOOM, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
11.) PORNLADY, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
12.) PORNLOVER, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
13.) PORNMAN, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
14.) PORNMAN, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20.) PornoFlix Administrator, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
21.) PORNOGUY, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
26.) PORNSTAR, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
30.) PORNTOON, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
31.) PORNWRITER, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
44.) child_lover, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
45.) CHILDEH6, BREC_first_name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.) KIDDIELOVER, BREC_first_name
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and to the sex-pics smut market:
1.) IMAGES, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.) RV, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.) RV, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.) PHOTO-LITHO-GRAPHICS, BREC_first_name  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3.) PHOTO\, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26.) Photolab, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
27.) PHOTOLOVER, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
33.) PHOTOMANIA, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
46.) PHOTOSYN, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
47.) PHOTOSYNREQUEST, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.) SEX1017581, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.) SEX24HRS, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16.) SEXBOYUWS, BREC_first_name  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
17.) SEXCAT21, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26.) sexevag, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
44.) SEXINUDE, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
54.) SEXMASTER, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
60.) SEXP, BREC_first_name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[CTRL] A Brain Implant Victim Speaks Out - R Naeslund 1/2

2000-02-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Branded by the Thought Police: A Brain Implant Victim Speaks Out

By Robert Naeslund
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The right of might: the source of inhumanity and state tyranny. This is an
account of the Swedish Security Police (SÄPO) and the use of humans for
medical research, but it could well be from Nazi Germany, where state abuse
was a natural part of the system. There are many similarities in the methods
and routine of brutality between the Gestapo and SÄPO. Moreover, SÄPO is
exploiting a new kind of computer technique to enable them to control human
thoughts and behavior.

Pictured above is an X-ray of an object located in my skull directly
anterior to the frontal bone. The object was forcibly implanted in 1967 at a
hospital where I was awaiting an operation. SÄPO had forced the surgeon to
participate in their scheme, preventing him from performing the original
surgery.

After violently sedating me, they made a 5 cm long incision in my frontal
bone, in which they placed the object: a radio-transmitter which has been
transmitting a high frequency electromagnetic beam through my brain 24 hours
a day ever since. The dimensions of the device are a mere 7x4 mm.

The process of miniaturisation has already passed the stage of the
injectable transponder, a tiny ampoule capable of storing data and acting as
a sender and a receiver.

Jan Freese, The Despotic Incompetence

The reason for SÄPO’s action was that I constituted a threat to the secret
of state mind-control projects. This covert operation of coupling people’s
brains to computers has been going on for decades, and not only SÄPO is
involved. Transmitters are being implanted in people’s heads during routine
hospital surgery. Most commonly, these are inserted through the nostrils,
from where they operate using two-way radio communication. After penetrating
the brain, the radio-wave is processed in a system that connects the
neurological functions to a computer. Afterwards, mental activity,
biological processes, sensory function, in fact the entire life of the
individual, are laid bare for state inspection and control.

In his report, the eminent professor Peter Lindström calls the technique
“radio-hypnotic intracerebral control.” This speaks a lot about a science
which is also known as bio-medical telemetry, mind control or brain-computer
interaction. He writes that there is a risk of meningitis and chronic
infections with such implantations. I have, in fact, had constant sinus
infections since the early 1970s, something which is most probably connected
with the implanted objects.

In the late 1960s, the potential and areas of application of telemetry were
already being discussed by J.M. Delgado in his book Physical Control of the
Mind: Toward a Psychocivilized Society:

We are advancing rapidly in the pattern recognition of electronic correlates
of behavior and in the method for two-way radio communication between brain
and computers.

This has been going on much longer than most people can imagine. It was, in
fact, one of the first applications of computer technology, forty years ago,
to link the human biological system with a computer. Thirty years ago, in
1968, Dr. Stuart Mackay published his Bio-Medical Telemetry, in which he
outlined the potential of this latest science:

Among the many telemetry instruments being used today are miniature radio
transmitters that can be swallowed or surgically implanted in man or animals
... The scope of observation is too broad to more than hint at with a few
examples... They permit the simultaneous study of behavior or physiological
functioning... In cases such as the monitoring of the welfare of a diver in
the ocean or an astronaut in orbit, a continuous flow of physiologic
information is essential.

X-rays of my head show three implanted transmitters, of which one has been
completely embedded in the frontal lobe. All were implanted on different
occasions during the 1970s by the Swedish Criminal Police while I was under
arrest in Stockholm and Nacka. A paper published in 1975 at Yale University
by an international team of six researchers as part of a joint project
between Yale and the Medical University of Madrid entitled “Two-way
Communication with the Brain” describes how communication can be achieved
with deep-brain processes using tiny transmitters, thereby also being able
to suppress EEG patterns. They also state that because both energy and data
is supplied by radio-waves, these transmitters last for life.

Two-way communication with the depth of the brain makes it possible to send
and to receive information to and from the brain. The technique eliminates
the need to restrain the experimental subject, 

[CTRL] A Brain Implant Victim Speaks Out - R Naeslund 2/2

2000-02-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Dr. Janes Jez, the psychiatrist who conducted my forensic-psychiatric
examination and who is ultimately responsible for my psychiatric diagnosis
wrote in his notes: “Robert Naeslund ought to be considered dangerous if his
system of delusions can not be cured and he starts to doubt his conceptions
and obtain insight into his illness.”

I was, of course, dangerous to nobody other than the state criminals who I
believe collaborated in the abuse, like Dr. Curt Strand, Dr. Annmari Jonsson
or Dr. Janes Jez.

By the time the X-ray was taken in 1984, I had undergone two operations: the
first was the transmitter that was implanted and had been removed, and the
second involved the one which had been inserted in my right nostril on my
last detainment in police custody in 1978. Dr. Lindström has documented that
my cranial X-ray clearly exhibits a number of implanted transmitters, one of
which is in my brain. When I was able to obtain the verification of Dr.
Lindström and several other doctors some years later, I submitted a letter
containing the correct X-ray reports to both the Board of Health and Welfare
and the named doctors for comment.

They reacted just like criminals. They will do anything to bury the truth
when they are finally exposed, and so they refuse to answer my letters and
to admit that they ever received them, despite the fact that I have sent
letters on a number of occasions. There is, of course, nothing that they can
add. It has been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that psychiatry is used
as a weapon against me to conceal the brutality of the state in its
implantation of transmitters in my head and my subsequent exploitation in a
continual, perpetual scientific experiment.

Some years ago, there was a media scare concerning the use of psychiatric
incarceration in the Soviet Union as a political weapon against dissidents.
The situation is not so different in Sweden, as my case shows. I was simply
trying to free myself from the experiment from which I had suffered for the
previous eleven years and to retrieve the human rights I was entitled to,
the right to not be enslaved by institutional experiments and research.

Dr. Tord Svahn of Huddinge Hospital is one of those doctors whom I believe
Dr. Jez involved in the plot against me to legitimize his diagnosis. During
the forensic psychiatric examination I demanded that a radiological study be
made of my skull, since I knew that these objects would show up on the
X-rays. But my request was denied and I had to fight for three months before
he gave in to my requests. The radiological examination was conducted by Dr.
Svahn, who also undersigned the reports confirming their normal status. A
couple of years later, I was able to expose Dr. Svahn’s deliberately
fallacious report when the X-rays were requisitioned from Huddinge for
further study by other medical practitioners. All the doctors who have seen
these pictures have been able to identify the implanted foreign objects,
something which they have also confirmed in reports.

With the help of several electronics companies in Stockholm which supplied
me with both the means and the know-how, I was able to ascertain the
frequencies of the electromagnetic waves which were traveling through my
head to these transmitters. The frequencies entering my head have been
analysed to be between 17 and 24 kHz.

About twenty years ago (1976), researchers Eskil Block and Per Scharestrom
published their book Man and Technology in the Society of the Future. The
book addresses the following technique:

The study of electronic communication has given us a much greater
opportunity to understand vital aspects of the human nervous system and
sensory organs. Out of this technology then grew a more abstract and general
science, cybernetics, the study of communication and control ...
advancements in science and technology show us again and again that we must
be prepared to adjust our view of the world and reassess the limits of what
is possible.

When the state commits a serious crime, it is ensured that none of their own
will reveal the secret. In that case, all would be lost from the start. For
that reason among others, the radiologists at the different hospitals deny
the existence of foreign objects in my head, as we can see from the reports
of Drs. Bergström and Svahn. There are, however, many other radiologists who
use their position to deny the truth in one huge collective fabrication, so
that no information about the abuses threatens to leak out. It was,
therefore, critical when Dr. Lindström produced an entirely contradictory
report concerning the X-rays that the Swedish doctors had declared normal.
It was, therefore, also in the nature of things that the Swedish doctors
tried to make Dr. Lindström retract his report.

Doctors at both Karolinska Hospital and the Karolinska Institute, who
actually had 

[CTRL] Ru Mills Story I Want To Come True

2000-02-03 Thread Colleen Jones

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Like this story and hope it comes true; a return to the fifties would be
nice.hope the Admirals are alive and well.and the plan goes into
operation.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Doyon's just retired CEO lost in Alaska Air tragedy - largest private landowner in N. A.

2000-02-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.doyon.com/"Doyon, Limited. One of the 13
Regional Alaska N…/A
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December 1999 Newsletter (Distribution Announced)Doyon Headlines
Thompson Family Press Release, Feb. 1, 2000

About our logo
Doyon, Limited is one of the thirteen Native regional corporations
established by Congress under the terms of the Alaska Native Claims
Settlement Act (ANCSA).

With the land entitlement of 12.5 million acres, Doyon is the largest private
landowner in North America. Our lands extend from the Brooks Range on the
north to the Alaska Range on the south. The Alaska Canada border is our
eastern border and the western portion almost reaches the Norton Sound.
Voting shares of stock were originally issued to 9,061 Alaska Natives who had
a tie to our region. In March 1992, shareholders approved giving stock to
Native children born between 1971 and 1992, missed enrollees and Elders who
were age 65 by December 1992. Today we have nearly 14,000 shareholders. Our
headquarters are located in Fairbanks, Alaska.

Mission

Doyon's mission is to continually enhance our position as a financially
strong Native corporation in order to promote the economic and social
well-being of our shareholders and to assist in promoting and preserving the
cultural heritage and land base of our shareholders.

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Press Release Fairbanks, February 1, 2000:

“It is a sad day for the Doyon region and a sad day for the state of Alaska,”
said Rosemarie Maher, President of Doyon, Limited.

The loss of Morris and Thelma Thompson and their eldest daughter, Sheryl,
came as a shocking blow to the corporation’s employees and shareholders
alike. Thompson, who until just last month was Doyon’s CEO and President,
brought the regional ANCSA Corporation from near bankruptcy in the early
1980’s to the 15th largest Alaska-based company before his retirement in
December.

“It was largely through Morris’ sheer force of will and incredible talents
that Doyon survived and then prospered,” said Mike Irwin, Chairman of Doyon,
Limited, “and it was Thelma and his three daughters along with his two
grandsons Christopher and Warren who gave him the grounding and the strength
needed to do what he did for our people.”

In gatherings held today at Doyon’s corporate headquarters and at the Chief
Peter John Tribal Hall, hundreds of people gathered to grieve their fallen
leader and his family members. Personal testimonials and prayers helped to
lift the spirits of those who came to remember Morris, Thelma and Sheryl.

“We know that there is a lot of interest throughout the state and even the
nation regarding funeral and other arrangements,” Maher said. “But in times
like this and considering the circumstances surrounding their deaths, many
questions will naturally remain unanswered for many more days. We hope that
the public and the press will remain patient as the family, especially Morris
and Thelma’s two surviving daughters, sort through the many details.”

Rosemarie Maher, President and Mike Irwin, Chairman of the Board of Doyon,
Limited held a press conference on February 2, 2000 at 10:00 a.m. at Doyon’s
corporate headquarters, 201 First Avenue, Suite 300, Fairbanks, Alaska.

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Re: [CTRL] Religion-Online

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"earthman" wrote:

I didn't see the book of Enoch though


Here's a link,  if you're interested in the book of Enoch.
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You can also purchase the book of Enoch by going:
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 I didn't see the book of Enoch though

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