Re: [CTRL] [Religionornotnow] Israel's Assassination Policy
Master, Since the Chinese invaded and killed so many of them, there are probably not enough left to have a policy of any kind, much less one for assassination. John - Original Message - From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Religionornotnow] Israel's Assassination Policy Ahhh Grasshoppers, I ask you, "And what is the assassination policy of Tibet?" Master Fang Wang -- - Machine Psychology: http://www.atoma.f2s.com/atomareport.html (file #10) -- - A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Religionornotnow] Israel's Assassination Policy
Ah, Assassination Policy of Tibet? You ask me? Here is present policy - they must have joined NATO? Or Madiline Albright is head Butcher? So what was once and peaceful and passive still prays with Dalai Llama - who somedy someone will make fur rug? I have Lllama Rug - beautiful and is beige and darkish beige and chocolate brown with Llama in center? Maybe I have old Dalai Llama? Here we go - President Murder and or Assassination Policy - Sounds like our CIA in War and Peace aided by Reno and Freeh and Albright? A Saba Tibet Dossier: CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND OCCUPATION OF TIBET: Contents: INTRODUCTION OCCUPATION OF TIBET: 1950 onwards TIBETAN INITIATIVES FOR PEACE RESPONSE OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SOURCES compiled in November 1993* for TIBETAN BUDDHIST SANGHA OF DUNEDIN TIBETAN COMMUNITY OF DUNEDIN FRIENDS OF TIBET, DUNEDIN BRANCH DHARGYEY BUDDHIST CENTRE and sent to all members of the Parliament of the government of New Zealand * [This Web edition with some additions March 1997] "... human rights issues are of concern to the world community; it is the responsibility of those whose circumstances permit them a free voice to speak out on behalf of those whose rights are suppressed. Tibet is an unfortunate example of a place where suppression prevails, making international attention essential." Asia Watch Report, February 1988 "... serious, repeated and fundamental breaches of the basic norms of human rights have occurred and continue to occur in Tibet ..." proceedings of The Permanent Tribunal of Peoples Strasbourg, France, 16-20 November 1992 This dossier was compiled by Ven. Sonam Chokyi Tibetan Buddhist Sangha of Dunedin 22 Royal Terrace, Dunedin, New Zealand November 1993 None of the material contained herein is copyright. Any or all of it may be reproduced INTRODUCTION Until 1950 Tibet was a sovereign state inhabited by a people with a distinct language, culture, religion, history and customs. In 1950 Tibet was invaded by the army of The People's Republic of China. It is occupied by the Communist Chinese to the present day. Escalating unrest among the Tibetan people in response to Chinese occupation culminated in the Tibetan Uprising of 1959. According to Chinese sources 80,000 Tibetans died in Central Tibet alone during and immediately after the uprising. It is estimated that since 1959, 1.2 million Tibetans have died as a direct result of Chinese incursion into the country. During 1959 many thousands of Tibetans, including the leader of Tibet, the Dalai Lama, sought asylum in India. The exodus of Tibetans from Tibet continues to this day. In 1960 the International Committee of Jurists found that the Chinese had committed genocide in Tibet in the most flagrant violation of human rights. China has continued to do so. Between 1959 and 1977 all but 12 of more than 6,000 monasteries were destroyed. Many of them were used as target practice by Chinese artillery. A thousand years' worth of priceless Buddhist literature, religious paintings and artifacts have fetched millions of dollars on the international market in an effort by the Chinese to raise foreign currency and to wipe out Tibet's rich heritage. In the last decade the Chinese have stepped up their efforts to repopulate the country. Tibetans are now a minority in their own country -- there are said to be at least a million more Chinese than Tibetans in Tibet today. Inducements of higher pay and other privileges continue to bring a stream of Chinese settlers into the country. The aim of this is to forcibly resolve China's territorial claims over Tibet by means of a massive and irreversible population shift. In May 1993 the Chinese authorities proposed another massive population transfer as one element in what they hope will be a final solution to their "Tibetan problem". Tibet, once a peaceful buffer state between India and China, has been transformed into a militarized zone. There are at least 300,000 Chinese troops stationed there at any time, as are at least one quarter of China's nuclear arsenal of 350 nuclear missiles at 5 different missile bases. It is believed that approximately 3,000 religious and political prisoners are held in prisons and forced labour camps where torture is common. There are reports that Tibetan women are subject en masse to forced abortions and sterilization. Alexander Solzhenitsyn has described China's administration of Tibet as "more brutal and inhumane than any other communist regime in the world." There are strong concerns, voiced internationally, that China is using Tibet as a dumping ground for nuclear waste. There were reports that China had made an offer to West Germany in 1984 to dispose of nuclear waste. The offer was not accepted. Recently Tibetan farmers have complained that "fertilizer" they have been forced to use on their fields is destroying crops and killing birds and animals. Tibet's natural resources and ecology are being irreversibly destroyed. Wildlife, including the
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #3
SkeptiNews 000611c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/09_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No errors occurred during production of this bulletin. Not like earlier. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Ooh: http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/nude/photo/2604/nyr102 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE VATICAN TERMINATOR. Will the Next Pope Be the Last Pope? Satan has chosen a new Pope. This new, chosen vessel will not only inherit the ecu- menical legacy of the aging and increasingly frail Pope John Paul II, he will be endowed with the occult energies to found and organize a stunning New World Religion. What a guy! http://www.texemarrs.com/vatterm.htm # DEMONS FROM HELL KILL 11 IN CHURCH ATTACK! WASHINGTON, DC A top-secret FBI file proves the Devil is stepping up his attack on God's people. The bone- chilling report reveals that an army of demons from Hell overran a small Georgia church late last summer, killing 11 people mauling 9 others! The 174-page file contains shocking photos of the crime scene and sworn state- ments from 57 witnesses. http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1979.html : Would you rather be terminated by priests, demons, aliens, robots, me? Are you ready for the impending termination of yourself,society, religion,Earth, reality? Have you terminated any individuals/organizations/galaxies lately? # Final Curtain: a chain of theme park cemeteries, with holiday tours, gal- leries, neon death notices,and the "Dante's Grill" cafe. Is this for real? http://www.salon.com/business/feature/2000/05/31/deathhoax/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 2,000 Year Old Greek Computer Calculated Motions Of Stars And Planets. In 1901 divers working off the isle of Antikythera found the remains of a clocklike mechanism 2,000 years old. The mechanism now appears to have been a device for calculating the motions of stars and planets. Harbored y0k bug: http://www.giant.net.au/users/rupert/kythera/kythera3.htm @ FUTURE MAP OF THE WORLD. During the years 1998-2012, the surface and continents of Earth are destined for a radical transformation. Much of our land is expected to inundate, while new islands will be created, rising from the seafloor. http://earthchanges.com/pages/worldmaps.html @ Jacques Barzun's history of Western civilization is bound to go down as a classic if one day there's still a history for it to go down in: http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/18/jun00/barzun.htm : Have you calculated/mapped/rewritten the past/present/future lately? Does your civilization/planet/universe have a future? Do you? How can you tell?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # EARLY-ONSET DEPRESSION: EXPECT COMORBIDITIES. Childhood depression is likely to be highly chronic and comorbid with other psychiatric disorders, and to severely impair function. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/22589.rhtml # WAS YOUR BABY SWITCHED AT BIRTH? CHICAGO -- Every day, all across America, dozens of new moms are sent home from the hospital with the wrong baby, govt health officials say. But by following your own intuition, you can tell almost immediately whether your infant has been switched at birth. Maternal telepathy: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1978.html # POSITIVE PSYCHOLOGY HALVED DEPRESSION IN KIDS. Positive psychology techniques that aim to instill a sense of optimism halved the rate of depression in three studies of young adults and children that included as much as 10 years of follow-up. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/22588.rhtml : Are your children depressed, depressing, alien, missing? Were your babies/ parents/relatives switched at birth? Should they have been? Does your consp- iracy switch many children/parents/neighbors/politicos/entertainers/aliens? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Video Trojan hoax scares up publicity for security firm. Another ambitious startup bangs another empty drum www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/11290.html # Building a digital future. What do EU, SAP, DSL, WAP, GSM and B2B have in common? They all converge on Europe: http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/e.europe # Children, Sex, And The Net: http://www.sightings.com/general2/csn.htm @ Prospering in the New Economy: http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/new.economy/ # Computers will disturb heat balance of universe. JavaOne Overclockers, beware... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/11268.html @ It's the pampered comfort of our lives that is making us miserable. That's why we invent illusory threats and dangers for ourselves. Masochism tango: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stirevopn02003.html : What's your favorite technological nightmare? Have you created/promulgated /commercialized any technological nightmares
[CTRL] Burton to Seek Obstruction Charges Against Reno
Newsmax-Inside Cover Sunday June 11, 2000; 3:38 PM EDT Burton to Seek Obstruction Charges Against Reno Chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee Dan Burton said Sunday that he will seek obstruction of justice charges against Attorney General Janet Reno because of her conduct in the Chinagate probe. But, said the Indiana Republican, he won't be able to do so until the Clinton administration has ended. Burton told "Fox News Sunday's" Tony Snow and Brit Hume that he believes top Justice Department officials "have to be held accountable" for blocking the FBI's attempts to question President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore about key Asian fund-raisers who pumped millions of dollars into the Democratic Party in 1996. BURTON: Well, I don't think we're going to be able to get anything done with this attorney general and this administration. But regarding the next administration, if we have an attorney general who's justly going to administer the law, then I believe they will and should look into these allegations. I mean, two top FBI agents told [FBI Director] Louie Freeh - and he felt strongly about it enough that he went to the attorney general herself - that Lee Radek, one of her chief deputies, said, "we're under a lot of pressure," that, in effect, if she appoints an independent counsel she might lose her job. And then she didn't do it. And tip-toed around the requirements of the law. I think that borders on obstruction of justice. HUME: Congressman, on her part? Obstruction of justice on her part - is that what you're saying? BURTON: Yes, I think if she was not administering the law as required by the Congress, the law which we passed, and she was doing it because she was trying to protect her job, then that's deliberate obstruction in my opinion. HUME: Do you believe that to be the case? That is why she did it and therefore that it is obstruction as you call it? BURTON: Well, let's look at the facts. Lee Radek says that she was afraid she'd lose her job. And it was in reference to whether or not she should appoint an independent counsel. She did not appoint one. All of the people in Congress who've worked with this law believe she should have appointed an independent counsel, she had no choice. And yet she didn't do it. And as a result, we believe a lot of these things. ... I mean, the U.S. attorney out in California was going to go after Al Gore. He had an investigation and was probably going to impanel a grand jury. And Lee Radek jerked that away from him, saying, "Well, the independent counsel statute may require that we have to appoint an independent counsel, so we're going to take this away from you." And all the while, I believe that Lee Radek knew that he was not going to appoint an independent counsel because of Janet Reno. SNOW: So it sounds like you're saying that Lee Radek was the guy who's obstructing justice. BURTON: Well, Radek was not the man in charge. He was in charge of the division that deals with public integrity. But Janet Reno was the ultimate decision maker over there. SNOW: OK. Why can't this simply be a disagreement about what the law says? Why does there have to be some criminal element here? BURTON: Well, if the president and the vice president broke the law, and if you read the LaBella and Freeh memos you'll find that the FBI believes that the vice president lied to them, and the Justice Department would not let the FBI ask them questions about John Huang, Charlie Trie, Maria Hsia and the other people who were bringing money in from Communist China and elsewhere, if that's the case - and I believe it is - then they have to be held accountable. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Pot Shrinks Tumors - Government Knew It In 1974 (fwd)
[Anyone have any details of said pending legislation? --MS] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:12:41 -0400 From: Ian MacFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pot Shrinks Tumors - Government Knew It In 1974 Knowledge Control http://www.reason.com/sullum/060700.html (snip) However scandalous it may be, writing about heroin, unlike using it, is not illegal. But a bill known as the Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act could change that. MAPA, which was unanimously approved by the Senate in November, is being considered by the House Judiciary Committee. Among other things, the House version would make it a federal offense, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, "to distribute by any means information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the manufacture or use of a controlled substance" if one intends or knows that the information will "be used for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal crime." (snip) Censorship is not the only threat. Another MAPA provision authorizes "sneak and peek" searches of people's homes. Federal agents could execute a search without notice and make copies of papers or computer files without furnishing a list of what they took. Subject: Pot Shrinks Tumors - Government Knew It In 1974 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:31:40 Gee, I can't understand why we have not heard of this research. name snipped http://www.sightings.com/general2/pot.htmhttp://www.sightings.com/genera l2/pot.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Clinton's Insane Clown Posse
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] Clinton's Insane Clown Posse Date: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:52 AM From: http://www.nypost.com/06082000/commentary/5563.htm NYPost, Thur June 8th 2000 CLINTON'S 'TALK' PALS DO HIS DIRTY WORK By ROD DREHER WE'VE long known that the White House employs private investigators to look for dirt in the private lives of people critical of Bill Clinton. But now we know that the Walt Disney Co.'s money pays for the same kind of work. Disney's Talk/Miramax book division contracted with New York writer John Connolly to do a book titled "Insane Clown Posse," a work-in-progress that dishes what purports to be the slimy secrets of a host of Clinton critics. Jonathan Burnham, president of Talk/Miramax Books, said yesterday that the manuscript hasn't been edited or vetted legally, and no decision to publish has been made. A company investigation into author Connolly's methods is ongoing. They'll have a lot to look into. Several people I spoke with yesterday who are reportedly in the book say Connolly approached their friends and associates asking for sleazy details of their private lives. One Connolly target, conservative commentator Ann Coulter, even received a fax from her old boyfriend Bob Guccione Jr. that had been sent to him from Nils B. Grevillius, a top Los Angeles private investigator. The PI - who brags on his Web site about working with Connolly on the book - wanted trash on Coulter, the fax shows. Coulter characterized the book's message as, "The entire right wing is gay except me, but that's because I was having an affair with Geraldo Rivera. It's absurd." But gay-sex allegations are only a small part of the book according to cyber-gossip Matt Drudge, who acquired a copy of the "Insane Clown Posse" manuscript. Drudge told me that Connolly's hit list includes Ken Starr and his deputies, literary agent Lucianne Goldberg, conservative commentator Laura Ingraham, GOP pollster Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, magazine editors R. Emmett Tyrrell and Christopher Buckley, and Wall Street Journal editorial writer John Fund. "Insane Clown Posse" even goes after non-ideological targets, such as Newsweek's Michael Isikoff (called "I-Suck-Off" in the manuscript, says Drudge) and ABC News' Jackie Judd - both mainstream journalists who broke Sexgate stories damaging to the president. "He seemed friendly," Isikoff said. "Then I learned he was going around asking friends of mine pretty straight-out for dirt on me. He never asked me any questions about myself." Other Connolly targets tell similar stories. Former congressional investigator Dave Bossie, for example, said Connolly contacted a number of his friends asking them if he was homosexual. Said another source: "I know Connolly went to people and said, 'Give me information and I'll protect you.'" Connolly didn't return messages seeking comment. Is Connolly a rogue reporter operating without supervision? Few of his targets believe that. "This guy has secretaries. He has a staff. He's been hiring private investigators. He's been flying around the country," fumed Coulter. "Who made the decision to fund this guy?" Coulter said that after an initial meeting with Connolly, he began calling her incessantly. Has it really come to this? Talk doyenne Tina Brown and Miramax honcho Harvey Weinstein have not hidden their affection for the Clintons. But how could they give a book contract to a writer conducting what appears to be scorched-earth recriminations against journalists and others? Some believe the book never was intended to see the light of day. They say it's a shot across the bow intended to frighten journalists from making too much over Al Gore's ethical problems in the coming election season. "There is a level of recklessness here that makes me believe it's not an actual book but an attempt to intimidate," said Fund. "It's the Clinton spin-meisters trying to destroy everybody so nobody will lift a finger against him or Al Gore in the future," said Bossie. Some conservatives are lying low, hoping "Insane Clown Posse" will die a quiet death in the Talk/Miramax morgue. Not Coulter. "What is the purpose of this, other than pure vengeance? Are these people going to follow us the rest of our lives? This is what the McCarthy era was supposed to be like," she said. Not exactly. In the McCarthy era, as in the Nixon years, liberals and all journalists raised hell about sleazy attempts to ruin lives and intimidate people despised by the powerful into silence. No more. Just one more way Bill Clinton has changed America. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] @nypost.com Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get
[CTRL] The Secret Shadow Govt - A Structural Analysis - all on one email
Subject: The Secret Shadow Govt - A Structural Analysis This is the email friendly version. I fixed the panels so you can send the lot. No wonder not many can grasp it...I was just thinking how would anyone ever have the time or energy to figure out what each different dept was doing. No wonder they are getting away with all sorts of secret activities. Nicky http://www.abovetopsecret.com/secgov.html Better version here, groups set out in panels. THE SECRET SHADOW GOVERNMENT A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS The secret "shadow" government is the large organisational network which operates alongside the officially elected and appointed government of the United States of America. Just as with the official government, the secret government has functional branches. Just as with the official government, the Shadow Government has functional branches. However, unlike the official government, the purpose of the non-executive branches of the Shadow Government is simply to distribute various functions, but not to achieve a system of checks and balances, as was supposed to happen constitutionally between the executive, legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. Government. That is because the Shadow Government is a creature of a powerful elite, who need not fear being dominated by an instrument of their own creation. In the Shadow Government five branches may be identified. These branches are: the Executive Branch, the Intelligence Branch, the War Department, the Weapons Industry Branch, and the Financial Department. The reporting lines of the Intelligence Branch and the War Department to the Executive Branch are straightforward and obvious. Intelligence exists to provide the Executive Branch with sufficient necessary information to make adequately informed policy decisions. The War Department exists to provide coercive force to carry out Executive policy decisions which could meet with public resistance. The Special Operations units within the Intelligence Branch and War Department exist to carry out policy directives requiring covert action and official deniability. The Weapons Industry Branch reports to the Executive Branch most often indirectly, through the War Department and/or the Intelligence Branch (for Black Budget weapons systems). The Financial Department theoretically reports to the Executive Branch for fiscal policy implementation, but de facto also reports directly to the international power brokers who have created the Shadow Government. The Financial Department serves at times directly as their instrument of fiscal policy implementation. An analysis of the overall purposes of these five branches suggests that the overall purpose of the Shadow Government is to exercise covert control by: Collecting comprehensive institutional and personal information By establishing national and international policy independently of the established Government By developing high-tech arms and equipment, and, with these, establishing small, specialized, highly mobile, elite military units to effect these covert policies, when need arises, without having to rely on the official (and "unreliable") Armed Services, (whose subservience to the Shadow Government is reasonably suspect) By developing an armed capability to repel any threat to the status quo, (including the uncertain ontological, social, and economic impacts of any revelation of the reality of UFO and extraterrestrial presence) through the development of a Star Wars/BMDO ground and space-based surveillance and SDI weapons network By denying information compromising to the Shadow Government from all those outside "need-to-know" policy-making levels By exercising control on the money supply, availability of credit, and the worth of money, through policy decisions made outside of the official Government. EXECUTIVE BRANCH Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) includes George Bush, Bill Clinton, all modern CIA Directors, most modern Joint Chiefs of Staff, most modern Cabinet and top Executive Branch appointed officeholders, etc. Tri lateral Commission David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, John D. Rockefeller, Alan Greenspan, Zbignew Brzezinski, Anthony Lake, John Glenn, David Packard, David Gergen, Diane Feinstein, Jimmy Carter, Adm. William Crowe, etc. The Bilderberg Group Prince Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein, Prince Bernhard of Netherlands, Bill Clinton, Lloyd Bentsen, etc. National Security Council (NCS), the military and intelligence policy-making and control group for national and international security, which reports directly to the President, its secret 5412 Committee (which directs black [covert] operations), and its PI-40 Subcommittee (aka MJ-12: which exercises policy direction and control of the UFO Cover-Up). Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS)'s Special Operations compartment, the operations directorate which implements the orders of the NSC's 5412 Committee, utilizing the U.S. Special Forces Command. National Program Office (NPO), which
[CTRL] [RMNEWS] NBC Attack --- Connect the Dots -- Gunslinger 2000,Bilderbergers, etc.
[RMNEWS] NBC Attack --- Connect the Dots -- Gunslinger 2000,Bilderbergers, etc. Dear Readers, By now most of you have seen this article on upcoming goverment sponsored nuclear, biological and chemical attacks. The reason I am sending it again is because of the recent Bilderberg meeting and the information on Gunslinger 2000. Something major always happening immediately after the Bilderbergers meet. http://www.egroups.com/message/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/748?start=60 The Bilderberger meeting for 2000 was held sometime around June 2nd. (After two Bilderbergers meetings, one in 96 and the other in the 70's -- the head of the, Rockerfellers and the Rothschilds (96) died under mysterious circumstances.) Yesterday I sent out information on Operation Gunslinger 2000 --- "Operation Gunslinger 2000 is a 'practice' FedGov complete takeover of Kentucky and possibly Tennessee It will run from June 19-23. On June 21 a 'simulated' terrorist attack will take place using weapons of mass destruction." http://www.egroups.com/message/RuMills/630?start=609 Connect the Dots -- Does President Clinton know it is the Rockefellers turn to offer up a sacrifice? Rumor has it that Bill is the grandson of Winthrop Rockefeller -- former Governor of Arkansas. Is he afraid HE will be the sacrifice? Is the NBC attack designed to keep him alive by killing all his enemies? ### URGENT ALERT RE: TERROR ATTACK IN JUNE Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 (Sent to USCMike1's 36,019+ readers - Please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks) Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, Constitutionalists, Christians, et al: 1- Well, ladies and gentlemen, this may be "it." The "IT" we have all been waiting for and preparing for, for the past 3 to 4 years. It is finally upon us. As you can see from the subject title, "URGENT ALERT! Prepare for real NBC attack by early-mid June 2000!" 2- From all indications and calculations, a real NBC attack has 75% to 95% probability of being perpetrated before the end of June 2000. That's in about 6 to 8 weeks maximum. How can our government be so precise in their surety that it will happen? Well, because THEY are the ones who will be perpetrating it and will attempt to blame it on the ISLAMIC international terrorists - mainly because our fed gov feels that they need some plausible enemy scapegoat to blame the attack on. And goodness knows, the feds (Clinton) have been trying to provoke the Islamics into attacking us for quite sometime now, without any results, with all the bombing of Iraq, Islamic Slavic nations, Sudan, Afganistan, Pakistan, etc. 3- Why June and why the Islamics Cuz, don't you know that there is some ISLAMIC HOLY day in June, and the Islamics have been known to perpetrate a "Jihad" or holy war on those dates? And what better "enemy" then the evil, hated strange people from a strange land? 4- Ever wonder why our federal government keeps publishing in the mainstream press that it is NOT the case of IF there will be an NBC attack but WHEN it will happen? 5- So how do I know all of this? Cuz I have been in contact with a good, moral and Constitutional federal agency (you probably didn't know that there WAS such an animal did you?) who has seen fit to reveal the bad feds' plans. 6- Here is the story and all the details that lead up to this impending NBC attack and all the documented evidence pointing to the certainty that it WILL occur and that it WILL be in JUNE 2000. 7- First you all need to be made aware that even before (two months exactly) our founding fathers signed our Declaration of Independence from the EVIL King George of England, there was a group of usurpers who called themselves the Illuminati, or the illuminated, knowledgeable ones. They are the ones who planned the New World Order and the modern version of the Illuminati is the GANG of 300 who are the current 300 world rulers. 8- These are the individual rich and powerful bosses who control the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the United Nations, the Builderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Federal Reserve System, the Tri-Lateral Commission, GATT, NAFTA, EURO dollar, the Royalty of all of the nations of Europe, and the major international banks, the gold and diamond mines, the oil reserves and such families as the Roosevelts, the Vanderbuilts, the Carnegies, the Kennedys, the Kissingers, and many others. 9- Capitalism, Communism, Nobility, Democracy, Socialism, Global Government (United Nations) and other political entities are all working together toward the same end. 10- Their idea is TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION and a frightening REDUCTION in the population of the entire world. They want to start off with a mere 25% reduction in population (read this as EXTERMINATION and massive GENOCIDE) by mid to late 2001. Within four years by 2004 they hope to achieve OVER 50% reduction in world population. And by
[CTRL] 300 plus American Concentration Camps
http://www.fi9.com/guncontrol/k_camps_intro.html Date: 98-04-17 23:49:20 EDT Dear Citizens: Here is a post listing the 300+ camps euphemistically referred to as "Relocation Centers" which are in reality, Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps. In addition, to this listing I have several posts describing which people will be apprehended and transferred to them, when it will happen, what the camps will be used for, and why Clinton has created them and his Executive Order creating them. If you are interested in this other information then please contact me. USCMike1 Some Citizens and Patriots are concerned because they are either unable to locate any of Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps, affectionately termed "Relocation Centers" by the Feds, or they say they have found the sites but that they are empty, not occupied, not being used, or abandoned buildings. At the present time the United States is a free nation guided by the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Of course the Feds won't paint big signs and advertise on billboards: "Welcome to #301" (Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camp). But, what is happening is that the sites are being registered with FEMA as potential or actual facilities to house U.S. Citizens to be used as forced "slave" labor (prison inmate) work camps to produce goods for the elite and ruling classes. That was one of the major topics on Clinton's agenda when he visited China recently as he wanted to learn how the Chinese produce most of their mass produced products so cheaply . . . with prison labor, of course. Clinton copied China's system to be used here in the USA. OBTW, did you know that as of 4 years ago, the United States had more than one million U.S. Citizens incarcerated in prisons . . . more than any totalitarian, dictatorial, despotic, communist country in the entire world? And this is as FREE and "democratic" nation? (It's more like demonic if you ask me). Clinton wants to put them and new inductees to work in his s. Alaska has one prison that will hold over 500,000 inmates. It is big and escapees (if they could escape) have no where to run. Some of these existing camps are being currently used to train battalions of hostile, foreign, heavily armed troops under United Nations control, some of which are Russian, German, Chinese, and others, which will be utilized to round up U.S. Citizens when the time comes. That time will begin shortly after the Y2K computer bug CRASH and enmass immediately after when chaos strikes and when the United Nations enacts and executes its new 950+ page REFORMED charter. This is when the UN will decree that there can no longer be free and sovereign nations and all nations must bow down before the UN. That is why they are disarming citizens, reducing our U.S. military fighting forces, and closing most of our military bases. If there are no soldiers and no bases, we can't fight back. There is one brand new camp near Las Vegas that is being used to train local police departments nationwide in urban warfare. Why do police need to be trained to conduct war against civilians? What are they planning for us? On several websites, there are lists of over 300+ such camps and some show recent stages of construction and remodeling in scanned photos revealing 20+ foot high guard towers (where machine guns will be mounted), Chain link fences with razor wire strung out along the top, and buildings with huge gas pipes and conduits leading into windowless holding tank and prisoner cell buildings. That is for discussion of the Red and Blue lists, priority levels of U.S. Citizens who will be temporarily housed in the s for a short time until they are eliminated. The Feds even have a specially constructed train with closable steel window Lonvers (air tight shutters). This train is designed to house dissident civilians enroute to huge air tight sealed structures for "fumigating." They won't even bother offloading the prisoners like Hitler did. Remind me to look through my bank of 6,000 archived emails to locate some details on the above and I will re-post some of them for you. This is NOT new information. It has all been planned out for several years. I sent this information out, evidently, to deaf ears last year. -USCMike1 12/9/99 American Concentration Camps Listing ALABAMA Opelika - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation. ALASKA Wilds of Alaska - east of Anchorage. No access by road, but there is a railway system. Facility holds 500,000 people. Projection: forced labor camp. ARIZONA Florence - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation. Ft. Huachua - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales Rex 84 Program. Projection: emergency custodial facility. Pinal County, Gila River - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention facility. 12/9/99 Sedona - Top-secret United Nations (and/or U.S. military) secret military activity near the small tourist town of Sedona, Arizona. Yuma
[CTRL] [RMNEWS] David M. Bresnahan -- GUNSLINGER 2000 -- FULL STORY
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 12 June 2000 23:13 Subject: [RMNEWS] David M. Bresnahan -- GUNSLINGER 2000 -- FULL STORY http://www.pbn.4mg.com/ Marines hit beach in Kentucky today Military training for U.S. deployment features mock-terrorism, 'earthquake' By David M. Bresnahan © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com A devastating earthquake will hit Kentucky tomorrow, followed a few days later by a terrorist attack using weapons of mass destruction; at least, that's the mock scenario for a joint Marine and civil agency exercise that starts today. According to documents obtained by WorldNetDaily, an experimental exercise to help the U.S. Marines learn how to work with civil agencies during a domestic emergency is now under way. Gunslinger 2000 is referred to as a "civil support experiment" in Marine documents, the planning for which has taken over a year. Marine public affairs officers contacted by WorldNetDaily had not prepared a news release for the media. Officials planning the event did not expect public attention, according to a Marine public affairs spokeswoman. "The principal objectives of this exercise are to explore and define potential roles of the Marine Corps Reserve within the civil support mission, and to educate commanders and their staffs about the nuances of civil support," said Col. Karim Shihata, assistant chief of staff for the 4th Marine Division. U.S. Marine Corps. documents obtained by WorldNetDaily describe Gunslinger 2000 as an "experiment," intended to evaluate how the Marine Reserve and National Guard can work together with local and national civil agencies during an emergency. "The experiment will explore roles and missions for the Marine Corps in the event of a Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) incident within the continental United States. Following the completion of the CREST exercise, the exercise staff and subject matter experts will conduct operational planning in a facilitated discussion by National Interagency Civil-Military Institute (NICI) that will outline and define potential civil support roles and capabilities for the Marine Corps in support of Consequence Management (CM)," stated Shihata in an internal memorandum sent to participants. The experiment begins today and will continue at least to the end of the month, but one document provided to WorldNetDaily suggests it may continue until July 15. "This experiment is an opportunity to provide an exploration of the Marine Corps' role and missions within the civil disaster management and weapons of mass destruction arena," explained Shihata in the memorandum. "Through this experiment, we must clearly and specifically describe the general military roles and functions for the Marine Corps within Military Support to Civil Authorities (MSCA). This exploration should also provide an identifiable exit criteria to facilitate our extrication from operations in support of Consequence Management. The conduct of this experiment must demonstrate SMCR-provided expeditionary capabilities with emphasis on voice and data communications." The exercise will take place at Fort Knox, Kentucky, and in the Louisville and Memphis, Tennessee, areas. Some documents indicate that eight states will be involved, but locations for exercise events were not confirmed. Planning documents confirm that many local and national agencies will join with the Marines during at least part of the exercise from June 19 to 23. "Active and reserve component military, civilian agency emergency managers from the federal, state and local levels, law enforcement officials and other first responders will be in attendance," said Shihata in his memorandum. Agencies participating: Federal Emergency Management Agency Federal Bureau of Investigations Joint Task Force-Civil Support Fourth Marine Division Kentucky Plans, Operations and Military Support Office Kentucky State Emergency Operations Center Director State Emergency Management Office Department of Health Department of Transportation Environmental Protection Agency Kentucky State Police Conservation/Natural Resources Kentucky Army/Air National Guard Kentucky State Public Works/Utilities Kentucky State Social Services The computer-assisted exercise is designed to help all the agencies involved learn how to communicate with each other in the event of a real emergency. The computer program will simulate a major earthquake, followed by a biological or chemical terrorist attack in the same area a few days later. A simulated national emergency covering eight states will be declared by authority of "Presidential Directive 39," according to Marine documents, and civil agencies will ask for military assistance because they will be unable to handle the situation. The computer simulation was designed by Cubic Applications, Inc., as part of a $47 million contract to provide services to the Marine Air-Ground Task
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
John Lee wrote: Josh, Keep it coming! Every White and every other race needs to know how you jews think. No. They need to know how YOU think. Thanks for helping out. What surprises me is, you continue to promote you hatred of other races and especially Whites I don't hate other races at all. And I am white you moron. What I am not is a white supremacist. when you know full well it has caused many pogroms for you people in the past. Things change buddy boy. Won't you ever learn? Or are you so sure of your position of control in these contemporary times you think you have won the world and retribution will never again happen? John It might or it might not, but for now, there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Joshua2 - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "John Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan John Lee wrote: Joshua2, My, My, how you do ramble! Did I say I didn't believe in a holocaust? Whether or not you believe there was a holocaust is totally irrelevant to anything. No. I don't even know what a holocaust is, except a burnt offering. I got that out of some Jewish book as a definition of the word. Seems like they are the only ones that do a burnt offering to their GOD. I don't see it called for in other religions. That's because you are an ignorant fool. Animal sacrifice was practiced by many, if not all ancient religions. It was a step up from the more brutal practice of human sacrifice. This is something your religion never grew out of. So, Josh, what are you trying to tell me, exactly? Do you know? I think you do. In fact, if you had some kind of authority among your fellow Jews, they would probably kill you for telling They did kill me for telling. Jews kill everybody for telling. So how did you guys find out? Whites what Jews are up to and how they plan to accomplish their goals. Rabin was killed because he was attempting to bring peace to the Middle East and fundamental Judaism could not stand the thought of sharing stolen land with cattle (goy-gentiles) so they killed him according to Shahak. Shahak doesn't know any more than you do. Yes, Josh, I read the disclaimer. I didn't deny a holocaust but I do wonder where it was and to what GOD it was made and when it happened. It was in Christian Europe. It happened around the middle of the last century. And it was to YOUR god. Someone said you thought I was a Nazi. That someone is an idiot who can't read. I never said you were a Nazi. I think you're just a wanabe. Let's clear that up right now. I am not a member of any Political Party, whether it be Republican, Democratic, Nazi, Reform, Libertarian or any other Party. When was the last time you read a history book or do you get your idea of education from the History Channel? Don't bother going there. You are not even in the same league as I. Now then, Joshau2, I have no fear of any or all of your tribe. You do not intimidate me now, and will not in the future. Good. In fact, your statements are some of the most laughable I've ever read, to say nothing of their stupidity. I'm glad I entertained you. Joshua2 As far as the disclaimer, why don't you practice it? John Lee A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Industrial Psychopaths' Can Thrive in Business
http://psychiatry.medscape.com/IMNG/ClinPsychNews/2000/v28.n05/cpn2805.38.01 .html 'Industrial Psychopaths' Can Thrive in Business Carl Sherman, Contributing Writer [Clinical Psychiatry News 28(5):38, 2000. © 2000 International Medical News Group.] FORT MYERS, FLA. -- Not all psychopaths end up in prison. Some climb the corporate ladder swiftly and quite successfully, Paul Babiak, PhD, said at the annual meeting of the American Neuropsychiatric Association. The "industrial psychopath" particularly thrives in the organizational chaos that typifies many of today's rapidly growing, downsizing, and merging companies, said Dr. Babiak, who is an industrial-organizational psychologist in Hopewell Junction, N.Y. While the prevalence of psychopathy in the workplace is difficult to estimate, Dr. Babiak noted that manipulation and self-serving dishonesty are hardly unknown. Studies of business have suggested that 15% of top executives misrepresent their education, and one-third of all résumés contain lies. He based his analysis of industrial psychopathy on longitudinal studies of six organizations that were undergoing significant change and in which in-depth interviews, direct observations, and analyses of written records were conducted when Dr. Babiak was called in as a consultant to facilitate "team building" at the companies. Six individuals -- one woman and five men -- were identified as psychopaths on the basis of their scores on the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, which were in the range applied to clinical and criminal populations. Each scored close to the maximum on the personality subscale of the instrument, which measures psychopathic traits such as glibness-superficial charm, pathologic lying, manipulation, and lack of guilt or empathy. Their scores, unsurprisingly, were far lower in the subscale that evaluates the "chronically unstable and antisocial lifestyle" that typifies the more conventional psychopath. A common pattern emerged in the industrial psychopath's behavior within his company. The first stage, "organizational entry," is accomplished by charming the interviewer. Generally, this is "not a difficult thing to do," Dr. Babiak said. The next stage, "assessment," engages the psychopath's skills at gauging the utility of various members of the organization during the "honeymoon period" typically allowed new employees. He begins to charm people in power and others of use to him and establishes a communication network. During the "manipulation" stage, the psychopath spreads disinformation to enhance his image and disparage others. He is adept at creating conflict between those who might pool negative information about him. In these efforts, he mobilizes a full arsenal of effective social tools, such as rational persuasion, inspirational appeal, ingratiation, and coalition, Dr. Babiak continued. This is followed, eventually, by a "confrontation" stage, in which he abandons the "pawns" who are no longer useful to him and takes steps to "neutralize" the detractors whom he has failed to take in. He does this by raising doubts about their competence or honesty. The most successful psychopath finally enters an insidious "ascension" phase during which he abandons his "patrons" -- those well up in the corporate hierarchy who have facilitated his rise to power. "This is seen in one-third of cases," Dr. Babiak observed. The old-fashioned bureaucratic organization is structured and averse to risk. It has rigid policies and procedures, puts a premium on conformity and compliance, and is neither attractive nor vulnerable to the psychopath. Companies in rapid growth or reorganization, on the other hand, provide the freedom, fluidity, and disorder in which this kind of individual can flourish, he said. Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL
[CTRL] Treatment for Psychopaths Is Likely to Make Them Worse
http://psychiatry.medscape.com/IMNG/ClinPsychNews/2000/v28.n05/cpn2805.38.02 .html Treatment for Psychopaths Is Likely to Make Them Worse Carl Sherman, Contributing Writer [Clinical Psychiatry News 28(5):38, 2000. © 2000 International Medical News Group.] FORT MYERS, FLA. -- When it comes to treating psychopaths, Robert Hare, PhD, offers you but one succinct bit of advice: "Don't waste your time. Nothing you do can make any difference at all." If anything, data presented by Dr. Hare at the annual meeting of the American Neuropsychiatric Association made that assessment sound overly optimistic. Treatment, in fact, appears to increase the rate of recidivism among criminal psychopaths, he said. Dr. Hare, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, defined psychopathy on the basis of scores on a widely used instrument that he developed -- the Psychopathy Checklist. It measures "arrogant and deceitful personal style," "deficient affective experience," and "impulsive and irresponsible behavioral style." Psychopathy thus defined overlaps with, but is a more selective category than, antisocial personality disorder. Most psychopaths have the disorder, but most with the disorder are not psychopaths. Psychopathy "may be the most important factor in predatory violence," he said. Dr. Hare suggested that psychotherapy for this population is something of an oxymoron. "What do you treat? They have no subjective distress; they don't have low self-esteem; they are not dissatisified with their behavior. Do you treat personality traits that they don't want to change?" Not only are there little if any data substantiating successful treatment for psychopaths, but also several studies suggest that interventions can have a negative outcome. In one study, 176 persons released from a program for "personality-disordered offenders" -- some of whom were psychopaths -- were treated in a program of intensive group and individual therapy (80 hr/wk); 146 personality-disordered offenders who were not treated served as controls. The rate of violent offenses declined in the treated group of nonpsychopaths but actually rose among treated, compared with untreated, psychopaths, Dr. Hare said. In another study of more than 300 offenders in short programs for social skills training and anger management, 12-month reconviction rates were significantly higher in psychopaths who were treated than in nontreated psychopaths, he said. Particularly unsettling were findings from a study of 216 sex offenders. Those with the highest rates of reoffense were the individuals with high psychopathy scores who were rated "good" by psychologists for treatment change, as defined by victim empathy and their understanding of their "offense cycle" and relapse prevention plan. Recidivism, in other words, was most likely in those "who had the ability to convince the therapists they had made good progress in treatment," Dr. Hare said. Why psychotherapy should facilitate, rather than discourage, criminal behavior is unclear, but one quite likely possibly is that therapy -- particularly in the group setting -- provides the psychopath with an opportunity "to learn more about other people. . . . It improves his ability to con," Dr. Hare suggested. Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [July30] artistic terrorism as alternative
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Lozier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "July 30 in Philly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 6:55 PM Subject: [July30] artistic terrorism as alternative July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com I have thought long and hard about the ethics of political social resistance (ie. our current protests) and particularly about the nature of corporate "property destruction" as that practiced by certain members of the Black Bloc anarchists at the Seattle and D.C. protests. I have been slow to make judgements for or against their actions because, as a student of history, I realize how various, contending elements within a movement can actually be mutually beneficial in the advancement of a cause. (for example a certian historian has argued that the tactics of King and Malcolm X, though specifically at odds with one another, provided a yin-yang relationship that, without both elements, change might never have been possible.) Therefore, up to now, my attitude towards their tactics has been: although I will not personally participate in that sort of action, I will not judge their decision to do so. Yet something still bothered me about the practice of corporate property destruction and I feel I have finally identified the source of my discomfort. It is not that I have any moral problems with property destruction in principle--in some cases it might certainly be justified. But I feel that this sort of action implicitly expresses an idea that is negative and in my opinion, simply erroneous. It is this, that corporate private property REPRESENTS the product of an evil and destructive culture, therefore the property IN ITSELF is evil and must be destroyed. Gramsci, an Italian writer on communist theory, argued that "hegemony" is a situation in which the elites of a certain society establish dominance over other groups, not just socially or economically, but _culturally_ as well. The corporate world not only controls our wealth and means of production, in other words, but also establishes an imperialising culture that suppresses or erases all other culture that might inherently create resistance. And he vehicles of this global "corporate culture" are establishments like McDonalds, Walmart or Starbucks. But we hate to see these establishments because they represent in our minds, as I have said, the workings of a destructive culture. But if we engage in destruction as a response, we are still being controlled, unaware, by the patterns of thought established for us within the corporate culture. Gramsci argued that the working class would create an effective resistance only when it was able to establish its own true culture--an alternative to the one proposed by the hegemonic elite. A new vision, if you will, not simply new programs for the old vision. And what is our alternative to destruction? Creation. When I thought of this the idea occured to me of artistic or creative terrorism. As an alternative, it is every bit as illegal as property destruction--and according to the legal codes, -is- property destruction. But rather than taking things in themselves and destroying them because of their meaning, we merely modify them in such a way as to make them our own, and thereby change their meaning. Instead of breaking the window of Starbucks, for example, we leave the window intact and turn it into a symbol of counter-cultural resistance. We should all brainstorm in order to come up with specific ideas for action--but I have in mind something like this. I envision large groups of activits walking into a Starbucks and begin painting on the walls. And I don't mean mere pain splattering, but genuine artistic expression. Each person could have in mind what he/she wishes to paint and completes the image as far as possible before (inevitably) being arrested. Unless some people preferred to finish quickly and then run, which in my opinion, is fine too--depending on how you want your message to be conveyed to the media and/or the public. That would be a judgement call for each individual to make. I'm sure many people will not see this alternative as any improvement on property destruction and condemn them both. But for those of you who see this as pontentially very positive and as an action that may convey the most powerful message of all--that evil can be transformed to good with creativity--please respond to me by email personally and we may begin organizing such actions. I'm not sure how much of a risk I am taking by sending this through the listserv--but I'm willing to take it and accept the consequences. In solidarity, Aaron __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com A
Re: [CTRL] Mrs God WAS: UFO EVIDENCE:
Since I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system, much less their "Bible," we may not get too far discussing this... However to address your last question about who the Bridegroom and the Bride are... The Bride is the Church of God. The Church of God is the Body of Believers, not just the Catholic church. The Bridegroom, That's Jesus. Jamie Oh, we could open up a fine can of worms with this topic. The Divine Wisdom of the so-called Old Testament is feminine. Wisdom 9: 9,10 (Catholic Bibles): "With you is Wisdom, she who knows your works, she who was present when you made the world; she understands what is pleasing in your eyes and what agrees with your commandments. Despatch her from the holy heavens, send her forth from your throne of glory to help me and to toil with me and to teach me what is pleasing to you, since she knows and understands everything." Could Wisdom be the Holy Spirit? Wisdom 9: 17,18: "As for your intention, who could have learnt it, had you not granted Wisdom and sent your holy spirit from above? Thus have the paths of those on earth been straightened and men been taught what is pleasing to you, and saved, by Wisdom." The Catholic Church acknowledges that Divine Wisdom is feminine and declared in one of the 'bull ineffablis' (?) that DW was Mary. But from reading what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit and comparing it to what was written about Wisdom in "Wisdom" and "Ecclesiasticus" not to mention the whole Bride and Bridegroom thread that runs through the entire book, I think Wisdom is the Holy Spirit Jesus was talking about. The Gnostic texts talk about the Divine Sophia (Pistis Sophia) and many learned people seem to think that Mary was the Divine Sophia. But it doesn't fit. Sophia suffered grave humiliation and harm and experienced prolonged face-in-the-dirt-syndrome. It just doesn't fit with what we know of Mary's life, IMO. Anyway, for whatever reasons, I think the Powers-That-Be stripped the feminine out of the Divinity, or at least out of the Trinity. If the "Father, Son and the Holy Spirit" are all males, where did the Son come from? And who are the Bride and Bridegroom? I think an application of Occam's Razor is in order here. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hugh Turley, Chris Ruddy and Vince Foster
I posted this to Freerepublic. Gavin. About a month ago I received an e-mail from Carol Valentine, "Free Republic Bans Top Foster Researcher." The e-mail stated that Hugh Turley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had been banned from Freerepublic for posting his opinion about Chris Ruddy, Joe Farah and Drudge. I e-mailed Jim Robinson asking him why he had banned Turley. He replied giving me this link. I had never heard of Hugh Turley. I found out that he has painstakingly researched the Vince Foster death. He has made several criticisms about Chris Ruddy's investigation into the Vince Foster death. Some of these errors are listed below by Hugh Turley, quote; "Other errors that Ruddy has continued to promote despite all the evidence he is wrong: -the FBI was kept out of the investigation(WRONG) -EMS Gonzalez found Foster's body first(WRONG) -Knowlton saw Foster's car at Fort Marcy Park(WRONG) -the second cannon faced north(WRONG) Ruddy whispered to me and others that Patrick Knowlton's attorney John Clarke was secretly working for Ken Starr. This Ruddy rumor proved to be 100% false." End quote. In my opinion, the most serious allegation Hugh Turley makes are the false rumors Chris Ruddy spread about Patrick Knowlton's lawyer, John Clarke. To some people, the other discrepancies may sound like nit-picking, but looked at as a whole, if correct, a pattern of deliberate deception emerges. I contacted Dave Martin, author of America's Dreyfus Affair, and he verified that Ruddy had spread lies about Clarke and has distorted other facts about the Foster investigation. Edited from "Dreyfus 2 "...But in 1997 serious questioning of Christopher Ruddy's motives was what was heard from within the heart of the American "Dreyfusard" camp. The questioning, ironically, was set in motion by Ruddy's own questioning of the motives of John Clarke, the lawyer for the witness, Patrick Knowlton. Ruddy did not challenge the fact that Knowlton had been followed and harassed by a number of spooky and intimidating men on the streets of Washington, DC. He, in fact, was among those who had witnessed the intimidation and had reported on it (The remarkable and thoroughly depressing thing here for anyone who cares about freedom in America is that no one else reported on it. It was, however, well-reported in London.). But as the lawyer Clarke prepared a suit against the FBI (or, more precisely, individuals working for the FBI), whom he and Knowlton blamed primarily for the harassment (or were at least guilty as precipitators of a conspiracy to obstruct justice), Ruddy spread the word that Clarke was not to be trusted, making it very difficult for Knowlton to raise the funds necessary to push ahead with his suit. One of the people with whom Ruddy planted the seed of suspicion, in addition to this author, was the previously-mentioned document hound identified only by his E-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (now "outed" in an electronic fit of pique by Ruddy as Hugh Turley). Turley, though made wary by Ruddy's warning, was not deterred from lending assistance to Clarke and found to his satisfaction that Clarke's motives were pure, astonishingly so it would seem for a modern American lawyer. Turley found in Clarke a bright and promising young attorney with the rare courage to do the unthinkable, to risk his career and stand up and "fight City Hall." Having satisfied himself as to Clarke's motives, Turley then, quite naturally, turned a gimlet eye upon the one who had mounted a whispering campaign against him, and decided that he did not like what he saw. What were Ruddy's motives, he wondered, in his trying to undercut Clarke, and what did that say about Ruddy's motives overall in being the only American journalist to pursue the Foster case on a regular basis? Turley's first concern was that Ruddy, working first for the New York Post, owned by Australian media mogul, Rupert Murdoch, and then for the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, owned by Mellon heir Richard Mellon Scaife, had intentionally played into the hands of those who would paint the government critics in the case as mere political partisans. Scaife was a noted financier of "conservative" causes and organizations, perhaps the most notable of which is Reed Irvine's Accuracy in Media (AIM). Irvine and AIM have taken the lead along with Ruddy in questioning the government's conclusions. Irvine is an unabashed partisan who had fiercely defended the Reagan and Bush administrations against almost all allegations of scandal, particularly those related to the Iran-Contra affair, and his organization continued to debunk any hint of government involvement in drug smuggling into Mena Airport in Arkansas. Ruddy did not help by implying that very nearly the worst thing about Kenneth Starr was that he had placed the Democrat, Mark Tuohey, in charge of the Washington Office of the Independent Counsel, as though a Democrat were inherently incapable of finding another Democrat guilty of a crime. More
[CTRL] Joe Farah (WND) Remains Mute/OKC Bombing
Posted to Freerepublic also. Gavin. I am sure that most of you are familiar with the Oklahoma City bombing. For those who need a reminder I have included some links at the bottom. I have followed this incident very closely. The governemnt/mainstream media story has only one use; to study how government disinformation and propaganda is manufactured, disbursed and disseminated by the general public. The government's story is a mishmash of lies, half-truths, misinformation, red herrings and whatever else they can do to try and obfuscate the truth. With a click of their heels, the mainstream media slavishly reports all this nonsense to the public, after adding their own twist of course. But, no matter how hard they try, the truth is always available to diligent researchers. The official story is of course, two men (only McVeigh on the day of the bombing) and a 'home-brew' ANFO truck bomb. (and 'others unknown') This production by the Clinton regime is one of the biggest disinformation coups ever perpetrated on the American people. The Oklahoma City bombing is one of the most Machiavellian orchestrated government incidents in several decades, in my opinion worse than Waco. I like Worldnetdaily and Joe Farah. He does a very good job, sometimes an outstanding job, in exposing the head to toenail corruption in the Clinton/Hillary/Reno dictatorship. One thing has stuck in my craw though, why is there nothing on Worldnetdaily about the massive government duplicity in the Oklahoma bombing? I ignored it. It must be an oversight, right? He'll get around to it. Or maybe I just wanted to believe that. When I heard about Hugh Turley's banning on Freerepublic for posting his opinion about Chris Ruddy, Joe Farah and Matt Drudge , I decided to ask Joe some questions. I e-mailed Joe Farah and asked him why he has ignored the bombing. Our brief correspondence is below. Hello Joe, A search of your website returned no in depth articles regarding the governments lies and duplicity regarding the Oklahoma City bombing. You tentatively place half a toe in with your article 'We knew this was going to happen' 2 reserve deputies testify about Oklahoma City bombing" which is unsigned. There is far more evidence of government prior knowledge than this. " The New American" http://thenewamerican.com/focus/okc/index.htm magazine has followed this case from the beginning and has pointed out in several articles the many large credibility gaps in the government/mainstream media version of events which is supposedly two men, one on the day of the bombing and a "home-brew" fertilizer truck bomb. There have been several good books published documenting the lies and cover-up in this incident, such as David Hoffman's' "The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror," Michele Marie Moore's "Oklahoma City: Day One," Jim Keith's "Okbomb! : Conspiracy and Cover-Up " Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton" in which he dedicates about a 100 pages to the bombing. Yet nothing of substance on your site. Why? Curiously, Gavin Phillips. Joe Farah replies; We have a limited reporting staff, which NEVER regurgitates reporting by others. To commit to investigating the Oklahoma City bombing cover-up is a major commitment of time and resources. There are many important stories we are not able to cover. You cite much good work that has been done on this story. I agree. Would you have us plough the same ground? Or should we focus our efforts on reporting no one else is doing? We have chosen the latter. JF I reply; Hello Joe, My reply to your e-mail is below. Gavin. We have a limited reporting staff, which NEVER regurgitates reporting by others. Gavin; You are not saying that all of your stories are exclusives, are you Joe? In many of your articles I have seen similar information on other news websites, or via mailing lists that I am on. You can still give a different viewpoint and new facts on the same event. Where does regurgitating leave off Joe and citing work by others begin? Joe; To commit to investigating the Oklahoma City bombing cover-up is a major commitment of time and resources. There are many important stories we are not able to cover. Gavin; Excuse me? The Oklahoma City bombing story is not important enough for you to allocate resources to? I am certain that you are aware of the facts about the bombing that have been ignored by the mainstream media Joe, but here is a very short synopsis. The Oklahoma City bombing is in at least the top three most horrendous government cover-ups in the last 10 years or so. The government had prior knowledge of the bombing from their informant Carol Howe. There were no BATF agents in the building at the time of the bombing, (two clerical workers) one agent told Bruce Shaw, who was looking for his wife, that "...they'd been tipped by their pagers not to come to work that day." The government said a 4,800 pound (decreased to 4,000 pounds at McVeigh's trial) ANFO
Re: [CTRL] Joe Farah (WND) Remains Mute/OKC Bombing
One thing always stuck in my mind..Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Stricken group warned FBI and a Judge and BATF who stayed home that day but left the babies in the cribs and their fellow workers on the job. So the idea was I believe to blame this on Terrorists.Arabs of course.But a sharp observant officer caught McVeigh - who had been an aide was it to Schwartchkoph of Desert Storm Had McVeigh not been caught today we would still be pinning that one on Osama bin Laden. So why the Murrah building? Inside job too? Our FBI and BATF and Freeh and Albright all meeting with KGB and monkey see and monkey do and they train our police now like guestapo killers? Why Oklahoma? Well the feds let a man who killed 19 people go scott free while John Gotti was put away. Remember during WWII reading where Lucky Luciano was in jail and docks being sabotaged.Lucky said let me out, I will stop itno way, said the fedsso one day they looked in US New Jersey Harbor and there lay a war ship on its sideLucky had pulled that off from within the confines of his little prision cell. So Lucky set freeand sabotage stopped. Remember the Apollo and the mob put away? Remember Lansky kicked out of Cuba and John Gotti a man of Honor set up and put in slammer on word of a killer Does this stuff make sense - and you wonder why anyone would blow up the World Trade Center, where a dead body was once found in basement - a conctractor - and it was said Gotti did it? Who took over when Gotti put away? Why Clinton's Dixie Mafia has taken over..this killer in our White House - even the great Eagle Challenger took a bite out of him. For you see birds of a feather flock together, and that great Amerifan Eagle wanted no part of this buzzards nest. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory Literature FAQ
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Xavier Poez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Conspiracy Theory Literature FAQ Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:44 PM Posting-Frequency: 21 days Last-modified: Jul 4 1997 Version: 1.1 URL: http://www9.pair.com/xpoez/faq/ctl.html Maintainer: Xavier Poez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright: public domain Archive-name: books/conspiracy-theory CONSPIRACY THEORY LITERATURE FAQ By Xavier Poez, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. HTML version of this file is available at http://www9.pair.com/xpoez/. * introduction * overviews * worldwide conspiracies + secret societies + WW I II, Nazism, etc. + Cold War + United Nations, NWO + government revolutions + terrorism, sabotage + religion + media manipulation * money manipulation + world bankers + Federal Reserve bank, IRS + 1929 Great Depression * assassinations + death of Kennedy + death of Lincoln * US government + NSA + CIA + mind control: CIA's MKUltra + Mena drug trafficking + Vince Foster Whitewater + NASA coverups + Oklahoma bombing, TWA800 + presidential directives * US military + Nazi relocation: project Paperclip + secret weaponry/HAARP + Montauk/Philadelphia experiment + FEMA, Mount Weather + Area 51/antigravity research * other + AIDS + cancer + free energy + aliens/UFOs * real/confirmed conspiracies + radiation poisoning by government in experiments + psychic research and remote viewing by CIA and Soviets + chemical poisoning of Gulf War veterans * how conspiracies work + pyramid structure + pawns dupes + double agents + agent provocateurs + middlemen + elite * aspects of human nature that lead to conspiracies + conspirators: o ego o greed o fear o vice o megalomania + pawns/dupes: o naivete gullibility o closemindedness o black white thinking o cynicism, apathy o "moving target" mentality o inability to say no o herdlike mentality o short attention span, lack of curiosity questioning o fear * key methods of advancing conspiracies + secrecy + greed, bribery + guilt, anxiety + victimhood + intimidation, terror, paranoia, blackmail + manipulation + infiltration + disinformation, lies, revisionism, coverup + assassinations + suppression/censorship + "trojan horse", "bait and switch", "shell game" + "frog boiling" + "pump and dump" + plots within plots + decoys, smokescreens + problem, reaction, solution (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) * resources + web sites + newsgroups + mailing lists + periodicals * bibliography _ Introduction This is FAQ that I am interested in further editing and improving. The topic of conspiracies has become more prevalent in the American psyche and I've not found a free compilation or overview of classic references. I don't consider myself an expert in this field, just a hardworking and curious layman, and I would appreciate any insight that others can offer. I know that a FAQ is a very iterative process in which early versions are only marginal and incomplete, whereas later versions can become extremely comprehensive with the help of reader input. With your help, I can really improve the quality of this document. I am committing to keeping it free for unlimited distribution at all times. If you know some good references for any of these sections, in the interest of educating humanity, please send them to me. Note: I am not going to try to collect every reference that exists. In particular I prefer to collect references to other authoritative collections that contain references themselves. I intend to keep a short list of web sites in this FAQ, which I don't intend to be exhaustive either, but which points to the premier sites. If you have one of the most comprehensive sites on the net, I would like to hear about your pointer, however, if you are working with subtopics, please submit your URL to the site maintainers of the more "master" sites. I will generally not attempt to resolve
Re: [CTRL] RADIO FEEDS LIST ON NET
in re: Post from [EMAIL PROTECTED](Linda) 6/7/1000 radio audio feeds. The link you posted is superb!! For those who missed it, there is a site which lists a multitude of broadcast radio stations around the world. It is extremely user friendly and allows a variety of lookup methods [ call letters, location etc ] with concise listings of stations. Stations with audio feeds to the net are indicated with a small icon which links directly to the station audio feed! wmbr.mit.edu/stations/list.html SUGGESTION: The next incidence of a major disaster or news event will be covered immediately by a local AM radio station; search the list at this site [operated by someone at MIT] for the nearest radio station with audio feed! It is generally acknowledged that the news is revised by the controllers following most major news events- recordings of those local news casts immediately following such events will preserve the news before it's 'spun' [Olka/bombing comes to mind!]. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UN Headquarters Anti-terrorism Zones
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] East Jerusalem Chaos, Fear, Repression (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:17:18 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: East Jerusalem Chaos, Fear, Repression ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ EAST JERUSALEM CHAOS AND FEAR http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! - - - - - - - - - - IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington, D.C. - 6/12: It's a very complicated situation; and a very sensitive time. In one very important sense articles of this kind coming right now play into the Israeli hand by making it possible to further push and cajole Yasser Arafat into a "final settlement" at a time of maximum Israeli power -- and this is clearly the main goal of former commando General now PM Ehud Barak. On the other hand such articles also further stimulate the Israeli opposition -- but this is probably thought to be a necessary scenario if the public relations aspects of all this are to work so that Arafat can be brought to the White House lawn pen in hand one more "final" time. So much for the timing aspects, however. What is more and more clear overall is that the Israelis are trying to bring to the now-enclaved Palestinians a kind of mafia statelet where repression, lawlessness, fear, and corruption are considerably greater than at any time in the past and can be locked in for some time to come. Such a regime fits well the kind of sandwich the Zionists and the Hashemites have long wanted to have with the Palestinians wedged inside. Rather than real independence and freedom in a democratic State, the Israelis through the Arafat regime (and with much help and encouragement form the Hashemite Regime) are attempting to trap the Palestinians into "final status" agreements from which fear will be ever-present and extrication exceedingly difficult. Doing so involves allowing to develope, at least for now, the situation that is described in this Ha'aretz article about East Jerusalem. ABDUCTION OPPOSITE THE JUSTICE MINISTRY "...the approaching negotiations on Jerusalem will be accompanied by serious Intifada incidents within the city, as a means of pressure to obtain concessions." "...the residents of East Jerusalem, who for years saw Israeli rule as permanent, are no longer sure of this." "PA uses terror - including murder - to control Jerusalem Arabs." [Ha'aretz, by Nadav Shragai, 12 June 2000]: #1 PA kidnaps people in the middle of Jerusalem for criticizing PA and suspicion of cooperating with Israel About a month ago, N. was driving his car down Saladin Street in the center of East Jerusalem. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a vehicle speeding towards him from behind. Within a few seconds the car blocked his way, two husky fellows jumped out, opened the doors of his car, held a pistol to his head and ordered him to drive in the direction of Jericho. For three weeks N. was held on the premises of the Palestinian security service and interrogated on suspicion of having collaborated with Israel. The abduction itself, symbolically enough, was carried out opposite the Israeli Justice Ministry on Saladin Street, and the details of it became known to Israeli police investigators from N. himself, only after he was released. Y., a teacher in a municipal school in Jerusalem, had a similar experience. He was abducted as he was crossing the street near the school where he teaches. He, too, was blocked by a car. He was taken to Abu Dis, where the abductors, members of the Palestinian security force, changed cars and continued to Ramallah. Y. was tortured, and returned home after three weeks, exhausted and broken. Last weekend, Palestinian journalist Maher al Alami was kidnapped from his home in Shuafat, after he expressed criticism of the policies of the PA in the field of human rights. In recent months a similar fate also befell three Muslim clergymen connected to the mosques in Ras al Amud, Beit Tsafafa and Hizma. Two weeks ago, elements at the Shin Bet informed Minister of Public Security Shlomo Ben-Ami that since the beginning of the year, more than 40 people - some of them Israeli citizens - have been abducted from Jerusalem, which is under Israeli sovereignty, by Palestinian security forces. Not long ago the government was informed that the Israeli security services have in their possession a list of 42 Palestinian land dealers who are being threatened by
[CTRL] Garlic and sapphires in the mud...
Aleisha Saba wrote: "All sentenced to life in Chinese Cookie Factory where they die of boredom and suggestion?" This one line redeems with its light profundity an otherwise totally stoned and slightly paranoid ramble. Edit your stuff ruthlessly and there'll be a poet's voice there. Excuse my proffering unsolicited advice., but "credit where credit is due" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Columbia: Fool's Gold of the Americas
From http://www.counterpunch.org/hrwcolombia.html }Begin edited by alexander cockburn and jeffrey st. clair The War Criminal and the Whore Barry McCaffrey and Jose Miguel Vivanco No sane person believes in the "war on drugs" any more. This implies of course that our nation's affairs are being directed by madmen, but you knew that anyway. Besides, there are signs that sanity may be seeping slowly through the halls of Congress. Three times the Clinton-Gore administration has tried to push through a billion-plus aid package for the Colombian military and security forces. Twice Congress has rejected the White House request. At the start of this week reports from the battlefield suggest that there's more than an even chance the senate may once again deliver a rebuff to White House drug czar Barry McCaffrey. McCaffrey, accused last week by Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker of having been involved in war crimes in 1991 at the end of the war in Iraq, has been the most conspicuous advocate for deepening US military involvement in Colombia. In his comic-book scenario, the cocaine and opium that undermines America is being cultivated by Colombian peasants under the supervision of communist narco- traffickers, who use their drug profits to buy guns to undermine Colombia's government. Send down money and advisers to the Colombian security forces to wipe out the guerillas and the drug war will be won. No surprises here, since McCaffrey used to head US Southern Military Command, which has a prodigious institutional self-interest in the drug war, since it provides a nice updated rationale for the old, old business of counter- insurgency. McCaffrey and his prime ally in the House, Rep Ben Gilman of New York, prepared themselves for the obvious objections to the comic-book scenario, which are that the Colombian military is run by criminal torturers either identical to, or closely allied with the drug Mafias; that years of "drug interdiction" have never had the slightest impact on shipments of cocaine and heroin to the US; and that demands for $1.7 billion in military aid would be followed by further demands, then by requests for a bigger commitment of military forces and then, all of a sudden and without having noticed, we'd be right there in the middle of another quagmire. Those with memories stretching back to the 1980s might note a certain resemblance between the fight over Colombian aid and the fight about aid to the Nicaraguan contras and to the government of El Salvador. Back then, there were similar protests about sending money to the butchers who murdered Archbishop Romero as he preached in his cathedral in San Salvador, or to the drug-running contras. The US Congress rebuffed Reagan's request for direct military assistance to the Contras, thus prompting the illegal supply line supervised by Col. Oliver North. Meanwhile, the Reagan White House issued glowing reports about amazing progress in imparting a profound respect for human rights in the minds of Salvadoran officers best noted for the courage with which they ordered the rape and murder of nuns and unarmed peasants. The strategies are unchanged. McCaffrey has been strenuously wooing human rights groups. So close have been the contacts that amid McCaffrey's strenuous efforts to counteract Hersh's New Yorker article, the deputy general counsel and human rights officer at McCaffrey's Office of National Drug Control Policy sent a fax to six human rights activists, asking them to help "discredit the Hersh article from your perspective". Of course this fax from David Shull was speedily leaked, causing people to ponder why Shull should have assumed that he might get support fronm human rights activists in protecting a possible war criminal. It's clear that some groups would have nothing to do with Shull's invitation. Carlos Salinas of Amnesty International told AP, after Shull's bizarre fax had been made public, that appeared that Amnesty International was being asked to help bury a story and that "it's one thing to refute charges or refute informationquite another to ask for participation in a preemptive strike to discredit." But Shull was probably quite correct in assuming his fax might get a friendlier reception at another human rights organization, namely Human Rights Watch. On May 18 Salon, the online mag, published a hero-worshipping piece by Ana Arana about Jose Miguel Vivanco, a Chilean-born, Harvard-educated lawyer who heads Human Rights Watch Americas. In tones breathless with naïve adm iration Arana described how Vivanco had concluded that McCaffrey's $1.7 billion aid package was bound to clear Congress and that outright opposition was useless. The only strategy, according to Vivanco, was to install in the bill language ensuring that the Colombian military would be forced to respect human rights. Already, Vivanco told Arana, the Colombian military have cleaned up their act and are responsible for only 2 per cent of all human rights violations. "If
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
blue honey wrote: Revelation 20: 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Revalation 21+ : And Charlie Brown sayeth to Lil' Annie Fannie " I'd like to Gog your Magog." And Li' Annie Fannie replyeth to Charlie Brown in tongues " #@^*^*$#!#~^." And then there was rapture. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rothbard
From http://www.antiwar.com/justin/pf/p-j061200.html Linques at site ... including the 'order form' ... AER "" "Oh, come on, knock off the Hitler analogy already. "" "" "One of them is 'international narco-terrorism.' As long as the drug hysteria holds up, this menace is useful in justifying any and all invasions of third World countries, since there are usually drugs grown and traded somewhere in each of these nations. The phrase is useful, too, since it combines fear of dark, bearded Terrorists . . . with the drug menace. It is doubtful, however, that narco-terrorism can justify all those super-expensive missiles and nuclear weaponry, since one hopes, at least, that the US government is not contemplating H-bombing Colombia or Peru out of existence." "" }}Begin Behind the Headlines by Justin Raimondo Antiwar.com June 12, 2000 ROTHBARD UNLEASHED It's time to celebrate, to break out the champagne or whatever and give a great big unrestrained hoot of pure unadulterated joy: The Irrepressible Rothbard is finally out! Hot off the presses, and hotter (in a politically incorrect sense) than John Rocker on a New York City subway, this book is Rothbard at the top of his form. For those of you familiar with his work, that is very high up there indeed. For those unfamiliar with Rothbard economist, historian, social theorist, and leading champion of pure free market economics who wrote dozens of books, and, in his spare time, founded the modern libertarian movement check out my May 3 column, and my forthcoming biography of Rothbard, out next month from Prometheus Books. But if you've never heard of the man who was one of the great minds of the century and the chief ideological inspiration behind Antiwar.com and even if you're not particularly impressed with what you know about libertarianism, and are just looking for a good read buddy, go no further. And get ready for plenty of politically incorrect fun . . . MISES, MENCKEN, AND MURRAY Even though I read these essays when they were first published years ago, in the pages of the Rothbard-Rockwell Report, Murray's monthly periodical put out by the Center for Libertarian Studies I had a ball re-reading them, laughing out loud at least once a page, and wishing (to no avail, alas) that Rothbard could be with us again, if only for one day. He died in 1995, and those of us who knew him have yet to recover or to even believe that he's really gone. With The Irrepressible Rothbard, Murray is back his unique voice reverberates throughout these pages, merrily debunking the shibboleths of ideological fashion and mocking them so mercilessly, and with such uproarious humor, that the reader can only sit back and give himself up to gales of appreciative laughter. In the pages of the Rothbard-Rockwell Report or the Triple R, as it was known Rothbard dealt with practically every topic under the sun, and then some, and the wide range of the excellent selections made by editor and Ludwig von Mises Institute President Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., reflects the broad scope of Rothbard's interests. From politics to culture, from foreign policy to the ins-and-outs of a New York City mayoralty race, from the Nationalities Question behind the latest foreign crisis, to the latest movies and the juicy details of the latest scandal from the solemn to the absurd with every issue of the Triple R, Rothbard took his readers on a walking tour inside the mind of a man who combined both the depth of knowledge and gravitas of a man like Ludwig von Mises with the zestfully ironic spirit of an H. L. Mencken to liken him to two of his biggest heroes. Here is a man who could write Man, Economy, and State, and the two-volumne History of Economic Thought, and such scintillating polemics as "PC Cinema: Psychobabble Gets Nasty," without missing a beat. HITLER REDUX Rothbard's very personal form of journalism was a habit acquired early in life, and indeed it was one of his chief joys. It was, for him, a form of relaxation, a break from his real work of constructing an integrated theory of liberty, from methodology and ethics to economics and political economy and his sense of fun is combined, in these pages, with a passion for liberty that illuminates every word of his prose. There are many gems in this treasure trove, and here's one I especially remembered, although I guffawed anew as I re-read it In examining the arguments put forth by the advocates of the Gulf War, Rothbard obliterates the contention that Saddam Hussein is "another Hitler": "Oh, come on, knock off the Hitler analogy already. What are you saying, for God's sake? That if we don't stop him on the Euphrates, we'll have to fight him in the streets of New York? Wouldn't it be great, by the way, if everyone observed a moratorium on Hitler for at least a year? No more "another Hitler" every time someone starts a war someplace, no more bellyaching about Hitler in general. There is more hysteria now, 45
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
LOL... This is one of the best ""CONSPIRACY THEORIES" I've come across in a while... ( With exception to J2's add-on : Revalation 21+ : And Charlie Brown sayeth to Lil' Annie Fannie " I'd like to Gog your Magog." And Li' Annie Fannie replyeth to Charlie Brown in tongues " #@^*^*$#!#~^." And then there was rapture. ) Thanks for the break in nomenclature of the norm of this group... (Knowing that God has a sense of humor since he gave us one, in his image... ) :-) eagle 1 ROTFL. - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version So on November 15, 1963 a dark cloud was descended over the White House but on November 22, 1963, it covered the land. Jack Ruby in his jail cell repeated over and over Shadrach, Meshenk, and Abenego - the three tossed into the line of fire. Chariots of the Gods, or Chariots of Fire and In Ezekial 1, you witness Ezekials Wheels - a possible craft where the wheels like planes of today lisft their wheels. Now one has to use a code method, for instance in this interpretation Israel is the Promised Land, the land of milk and honey. The venture on to Ezekial 38 and 39..and the dark clouds begins to descend Gog is the symbolism of JFK..God will strike the arrow out of the left hand and the bough out of the right hand of this man, who symbolzed the President of the United States. Arlington Cemetary is the Valley of Hamon Gog (Tut Ank Hamon and believe me, all that glittters in not gold). So Chariots of Fire - the astronauts when the Challenger blew up in the heavens referred to Psalm 45.God set their Chariots on Fire.the little Princess of Wales and her Egyptian Lover - Dodi Fayed had produced the much raved about movie, Chariots of Fire... Life is but a dream..in one chapter in Kings a hand descends out of a dark cloud - symbolizing depending from where you stand, the Black Hand - ancient Arabic Mafia type association. So this is a lot of reading, but I think worth it. Start with Ezekial 1 and read about Ezekials Wheels.and on November 15 one year, over the White House, it is said UFO's put on quite a display for those watching form withinit ws On to the Moon - Damn the Torpedos, but they forgot about the Black Pullets from the East, and the killer from the land of the North. A Saba Bible, King James Version 33 matches. Ezek.1 [16] The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. [19] And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. [20] Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. [21] When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. Ezek.3 [13] I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing. Ezek.10 [2] And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. [6] And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. [9] And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone. [12] And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had. [13] As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel. [16] And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them. [19] And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD's house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. Ezek.11 [22] Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
SkeptiNews 000612a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/11_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * Very few minotaurs were abducted by reptilioids to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ RAYGUNS! http://www.toyraygun.com/galleryindex.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pulsating Orb Still Unexplained. According to the Astronomer it was simply the star Sirius; the flickering was the atmosphere. They said it is rarely visible in our hemisphere,and that is why it seemed so unusual.I find this very hard to believe, not because I want it to be something fantastic, but because I have been observing the sky and stars for a long time, and have never seen ANY star exhibit this behavior. http://caus.org/mu061200.htm # The dog star's bone? An astronomical anomaly among the asteroids. Astro- nomers often speak of the cosmic zoo, reflecting the exotic variety of phenomena to be seen in the deep space. Pulsars, colliding galaxies and superluminous quasars are just a few of the bizarre images that telescopes pick up. But right here in the solar system, we still have a few surprises in store. Such as an asteroid shaped like a dog's bone. And Kermit the Frog on Mars: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/y/26090006.cfm : Have you observed any cosmic bones/dogs/frogs/orbs lately?Do they pulsate? Do you? What's your favorite cosmic anomaly? Are you anomalous? How much? Do you collide with galaxies often; go superluminous; otherwise attract notice? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # There's More to Space Than Space. Is there also more to life, death, sex, money? http://www.the-journal.co.uk/cfm/news_story.cfm?storyId=187044 # 'Area 51' - What's In A Name? Govt agencies cannot agree on a designation for this conglomerate facility: http://sightings.com/general2/area51n.htm # Kuril Islands Explosion: http://www.cseti.org/bearden/ferdelance/s43.htm @ Estimate Of The Situation 2000 - The Black Triangles. Mysterious aerial craft commonly called "flying triangles" and/or "black triangles" have been elbowing the classic, disk-shaped UFO aside in the last few years. These angular craft are seen more and more persistently. Are they a black budget, highly innovative form of craft from US govt/industry, or a new form of genuine UFO visiting us? http://sightings.com/general2/blackt.htm # Pulsar signals "might be part of a vast interstellar communications network which we have stumbled upon" says MIT radio astronomer Professor Alan Barrett. Compelling case - talk to me: http://www.etheric.com/ : Have you detected any interstellar signals/crafts/entities/spasms lately? Are UFOs/planets/pulsars/UFOlogists more/less than they seem? Are you wired into any interstellar/galactic/dimensional communications nets yet? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # METEOR BRIGHT AS THE SUN SCORCHES SKY - Vicotria, Australia - impact felt like earthquake: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3603 # Percé, Gaspésie, Quebec Sighting - Hundreds of observers saw 3 white tri- angles hover: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m08-009.shtml # "There goes Edwards AFB," says JPL scientist during mysterious night-time So.Calif. 1996 celestial overflight: http://www.cseti.org/crashes/161.htm @ The Similarities Between 3 Different Pyramids. BARBURY CASTLE CROP FORM- ATION NOW FOUND TO BE PRECISELY-REFERENTIAL TO THE GREAT PYRAMID, THE QUETZALCOATL PYRAMID, AND 'THE DM PYRAMID' AT CYDONIA ON MARS - all an alien plot, yup: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3601 # Astronaut's UFO Encounter. MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA -- Don K. "Deke Slayton in his book gives his account of seeing a UFO. Deke was conducting a maintenance test flight in an F-51. http://www.caus.org/mu061200b.htm : D'ya prefer black/white/red/green/blue/paisley/rippled triangles/pyramids/ polygons? D'ya prefer meteors to be hot, cold, lukewarm; bright, dim, trans- parent; heavy, light, spongy? Do meteorites burn cropcircles? Fast or slow?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CIA Admits Tolerating Contra Cocaine Trafficking in 1980s. In secret con- gressional testimony, senior CIA officials admitted that the spy agency turned a blind eye to evidence of cocaine trafficking by U.S.-backed Nic- araguan contra rebels in the 1980s and generally did not treat drug smug- gling through Central America as a high priority during the Reagan admin- istration. Like this is news: http://www.consortiumnews.com/060800a.html # 'OVERWILLING' DISORDERS MAY INCLUDE ADDICTION. Some psychiatric syndromes, including psychopathy substance addiction, may be seen as disorders of "overwilling." "Mental illness has been thought of as a 'weakening of the will,' but in many cases
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one time hanged from tails? So this is the Planet of the Apes? A Saba A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jew Watch
Jew Watch - Jewish EntertainmentThis list smacks of McCarthyism... !!! Ressurection of a dead horse? I'm more concerned with "those who say they are Jews but are not..." (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9) - Got a list of these, Mr. Lee? And I have to agree with another poster... This "list" sucks. What's the use of this listing anyway? Inform us of your agenda, John Lee. Let us in on your plan and why you see the importance. Why not list ALL races and ALL religions? Why are you singling out the Jews? INQUIRING MINDS want to know *your* conspiracy theory in this. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: John Lee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:22 PM Subject: [CTRL] Jew Watch - Jewish Entertainment Jew Watch Keeping a Close Watch on Jewish Communities Organizations Worldwide Top: Jewish Entertainment Jews on Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Writers, etc... Hollywood Executives/Owners NEWS Monopoly The Truth At Last on Jews, Communism, and Hollywood NEWS Reporters Jewish Usenet Discussion Groups Jews on Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Etc. Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Writers, etc... Allen, Woody - Comedian, Actor, Director, Producer (real name: Allan Konigsberg) Avital, Mili - Israeli actress (extremely beautiful), U.S. debut: Stargate Beck - Musician Berlin, Irving - Composer of "White Christmas" Biafra, Jello (Singer of American HC punk band Dead Kennedys) Bialik, Mayim - Actress (Blossom) Borgnine, Ernst (Effron Borgnine) - an actor Brooks, Albert - Actor, Director (real name: Albert Einstein) Brooks, Mel - Actor, Director, Comedian, Writer Bullock, Sandra - actress [Jewish?] Cantor, Eddie - Vaudeville Singer, Dancer Cass, "Mama" (Liz Cohen) - an actress Cherry, Ruben (A man who raised Elvis in public) Chessler, Deborah (Shirley Reingold) Chomsky, Naom - an American philosopher Cohen, Leonard -- Bohemian Song Writer Crystal, Billy - Actor, Comedian Davis, Jr., Sammy - Black Singer, Actor, Dancer (died) DeCarlo, Joe - Comedian DeNero, Robert - Actor [Jewish Mother] Deutscher, Isaac - an author (biography of "Stalin") Dreyfuss, Richard (Oscar Winning Actor) Duchovny, David - Co-star of the hit show The X-Files Duritz, Adam lead singer/songwriter for Counting Crows Dylan, Bob - Musician Escher, M. C. - Artist, Explorer of the Infinite Feuer, Aaron Neal - wrestler, talmud scholar, debate champ Ford, Harrison - Actor (Jewish Mom, see interviews in cosmopolitan/playboy) Frankel, Mark - Actor Freed, Alan (first radio star in 50´s to play Rock n' Roll) Geller, Sarah Michelle - Actress (Buffy the Vampire Slayer TV) Geller, Rudy - Magician who Bends Spoons Levitates Objects Gershwin, George - composer (Rhapsody in Blue) Goldblum, Jeff - Actor Goldwyn, Samuel - Director, Executive at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Gordon, Tony (Manager UK punk band Sham 69) Gere, Richard - Actor Gifford, Cathy Lee Epstein - Talk Show Hostess Himmelman, Peter - Musician (and son-in-law to B. Dylan) Hoffmann, Gaby Keitel, Harvey (Actor: Pulp Fiction, The Piano, etc) Kirschner, Mia - Actress/Exotica Knopfler, Mark - Dire Straits Jeremy, Ron - Porn Star Joel, Billy - Musician, Winnner of Grammy Awards Jolsen, Al - Singer, Mummer, Cantor Klein, Calvin - Fashion Designer Lee, Michelle - Actress - Knots Landing Louis, Julia - Actress Marcell, Bibi - Klezmer Singer extraordinaire Marley, Bob - Reggae Artist (father was Jewish, mother negro) Martins, Luciano Costa - brazilian musician (mother mulatta, father indian/jewish) Marx, Groucho - Comedian Marx, Harpo - Comedian Mayer, Louis B. - Founder Director at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Meyers, Ari - Actress / Kate and Allie Minelli, Liza - Singer/Actress Neuwirth, Bebe - Lilith on Cheers Newman, Paul - Actor Newton John, Olivia - Australian Pop Singer Nimoy, Leonard - Actor (Star Trek's 'Spock') Owens, Ronn - San Francisco/Los Angeles Talk Show Host Patinkin, Mandy - Actor (Chicago Hope) Peck, Gregory - an actor Perlman, Itzhak - World-Renowned Violinist Portman, Natalie - actress Raffi - childrens' entertainer Reiser, Paul - Mad About You Reudor - Cartoonist,author, creator of comic strip and books featuring The Doodle Family Rhodes, Bernie (the first manager of The Clash) Richards, Michael - Seinfeld Rivera, Geraldo - Talk Show Host Roth, David Lee - Van Halen Rocker Ryder, Winona - Actress Savalas, Telly - an actor (died) Sandler, Adam - Comedian Schlessinger, Dr. Laura - radio therapist Seagal, Steven - action movie star, Under Siege, etc. Seinfeld, Jerry - Comedian Server, Josh - actor on the show All That Seymour, Jane - Actress (father is Jewish) Shatner, William - Actor (Star Trek's Captain 'James T. Kirk') Shiraz - Israeli supermodel(pic on top model directory) Shue, Andrew - Actor (Melrose Place) Silver, Josh (keyboard player in goth metal band Type-O-Negative) Silverstone, Alicia - Actress, Clueless Star Simon, Paul - Musician Sioux, Siouxie (female singer of British punk/goth band Siouxie Banshees) Singer, Isaac Bashevis - Writer (Yiddish) Slash -
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
That's a good one Aleisha... God HAD to have had a sense of humor... (I know too many monkeys).And Darwin was one of them. God just let Darwin monkey around to see which theory we ultimately decided to believe in Darwin's or God's. Planet of the Apes? Perhaps Charlton Heston has a better perspective on that, beings he's played the roles of the Saviour of both the human race and the ape race... eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one time hanged from tails? So this is the Planet of the Apes? A Saba A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials
NOW, THIS is good conspiracy theory material... COULD THIS be the true mark of the beast? The ultraterrestrial *gene*??? Hmm? I can see it now... a right hand with three digits instead of five... a forehead with "Worf" (Klingon-type) like markings... Gee, the possibilities are endless.. Food for UT, ET and UFO thoughtgrams... eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials In a message dated 6/8/00 11:41:20 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since we are speculating we might try to address some of these issues. What if the so-called abductions of today, since I'm sure most would agree that abductions (as opposed to interaction and weird events not involving actual abduction-and possibly experimentation) are a relatively new phenomenon, are merely a mental scenario and do not take place at all. Scoop marks, scars, implants, nosebleeds, mysterious 'miscarriages' of confirmed pregnancies absent of tissue - all these seem to indicate a physical component. Of course IF they are physical beings AND they really DO abduct people then there would have to be some purpose for it. Would we have genetic similarity? I think that we would if we each developed according to similar evolutionary lines, and it seems they are very much like us in the way they look and behave. Interbreeding could be a possibility. I just read about this in "Watchers" (by Raymond Fowler, about the Betty Andreasson Luca encounters.) He devotes part of Chapter 11 to speculation about this. I'm just going to pick and choose quotes to explain: "The similarity between the physical appearance of the so-called Watchers and the human fetus is striking." "Neoteny is the phenomenon of a fetal or a larval form of a species that bypassesnormal physical development and becomes sexually mature." "Back in the 1920's, an anatomist names Louis Bolk...theorized that Homo sapiens is physically a fetal ape which has become sexually mature." "Through genetic engineering, our future descendants could bypass neoteny by natural selection and easily produce human beings of small stature and large heads very similar to the aliens being reported. The fetal head, allowed to develop and grow in an artificial womb, would significantly increase the size and the capability of the brain of the new Homo sapiens." He speculates that the Watchers and Homo sapiens might both have been created from advanced extraterrestrials who have visited earth since man's beginning - with the Watchers being given the role of caretakers. Others speculate that the Watchers may be our descendants coming back in time to revitalize their gene bank, which may have been adversely affected by environmental damage. Samantha --- "The Watchers: The Secret Design Behind UFO Abduction" Raymond E. Fowler Foreword by Whitley Strieber Bantam Books, NY, 1990 . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BAN THE SECRET POLICE
New York Post-June 12, 2000 BAN THE SECRET POLICE By Dick Morris THE time has come to absolutely prohibit the growing use of secret police in our political system. For those unfamiliar with the secret police, they are elite private detectives secretly hired by politicians to do only one thing: dig up dirt - especially about the personal sex lives - of elected officials, journalists and private citizens who get in the pols' way. This revolting technique was perfected into a new art form by Bill and Hillary Clinton. In 1992, they spent over $100,000 in federal campaign funds to find dirt about women who claimed to have relationships with Bill Clinton, even when they knew that the women were telling the truth. Back then, the Clintons were bold about it. But as time went on, they realized that it wasn't really helpful to their image as protectors of the Constitution to be spying on private citizens. Now, they get by with a little help from their friends: Their lawyers hire the private eyes and there's no longer a public record of the payments. Last week, Disney/TalkMiramax publishers abandoned plans to publish "Insane Clown Posse," a controversial book which reportedly would have exposed the private sexual lives of Clinton critics: journalists, commentators, members of Congress and prosecutors in Kenneth Starr's office. The author, John Connolly, had apparently hired expensive private investigators to gather the offensive material. The book was commissioned by friends and supporters of the Clintons and its sole purpose appears to have been to embarrass adversaries of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Equally disturbing was the recent disclosure that New Jersey Democratic Senate candidate John Corzine had hired detectives to gather dirt on his primary opponent, former Gov. Jim Florio. It is time for these tactics to be banned, to stop unregulated outlaw private eyes from secretly gathering data to be used in our political system. The use of these private investigators - initially by Clinton and the Democrats during the past eight years - is really an extension of the off-the-shelf covert operations which have plagued democracy in post-World War II America. In the '50s, President Eisenhower made covert operations by the Central Intelligence Agency a key element of U.S. foreign policy, toppling governments in Guatemala and Iran and backfiring at the Bay of Pigs. During the Kennedy years, the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro may have led to the assassination of JFK himself. J. Edgar Hoover's ubiquitous FBI files, which stored information to blackmail, intimidate, and threaten politicians, were a key element in helping Lyndon Johnson win congressional votes for his political and legislative agenda. In the '70s and '80s, the Republicans took up where the Democrats had left off. The secret operations of the CIA and other intelligence agencies came under congressional scrutiny in the '70s in the hearings led by Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho). The dirty tricks of Nixon's operatives scamming the Muskie campaign were the precursors of Watergate itself. In the Reagan Administration, Oliver North's covert arms-for-hostages dealings with Iran and the Nicaragua contras continued the dismal history of covert operations. Under Clinton, this sordid legacy has metastasized into the use of private detectives to smear political opponents. The Clinton political machine has routinely used covert ops to discredit, threaten, and intimidate their opponents. Unable, in the wake of the '70s and '80s reforms, to use the FBI, the NSC or the CIA to do their bidding, the Clintons have turned to private detectives instead. The role of detectives, investigators and smear artists in our political system is truly corrupting and has no more place in our politics than did the abuses of the FBI, the IRS and the CIA in years past. The stakes are the same. The tactics are identical. The goals are similar. The operations are equally revolting. We need to take these detectives and their dirty deeds as seriously as we took the wire tapping of the FBI, the covert dealings of the NSC, or the intrusive spying of the CIA. It is an equal threat to our liberties. The one was done by the government and the other with private funds is a distinction without a difference. Indeed, the use of detectives on the payroll of the president or his attorneys may legally have the color of state action. When a president uses his political position to raise private funds which are used to pay detectives, whether on the payroll of his campaign or of his lawyers, to pry into the lives of citizens, these actions may violate their constitutional rights. It matters little that the snooping is by Democrats, not Republicans. It is the same abuse that characterized J. Edgar Hoover's years at the FBI in another, but equally disgusting, form. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK
Re: [CTRL] 'Industrial Psychopaths' Can Thrive in Business
Thank You Will reply to the other thread Re: [CTRL] Treatment for Psychopaths Is Likely to Make Them Worse BUT I will say that you need to extend your perspective on how long this theme has been going. http://callisto.guestworld.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=PiperCreations Comments: This site contains a laypersons perspective on how education, ADHD, chemicals and politics relate to each other. The major theme of the site is - + Honor + any time (in history) a major center of education was amassed, compiled, or put together is was destroyed, why? The educational center was pushed by other cultures, the children tested by the rules and morals of that culture to see how the other culture might be able to integrate the ideas or to control the desirable education. The parents wondered why and lost the consistancy, that Trust and Education is built on. Killing the Goose that laid the golden egg. "keywords" CONTENT="ADD, ADHD, education, homeschool, MCS, home school, chemicals, gm foods, aspartame, fluoride, antibiotics, antibacterial, Organophosphates, Canola, environmental, macrobiotic, sugar, AIDS, HIV, food additives" description" CONTENT= "What 'I' think I have found, key words for others to look." ThePiedPiper 12June2000 Robert F. Tatman wrote: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/IMNG/ClinPsychNews/2000/v28.n05/cpn2805.38.01 .html 'Industrial Psychopaths' Can Thrive in Business Carl Sherman, Contributing Writer [Clinical Psychiatry News 28(5):38, 2000. © 2000 International Medical News Group.] FORT MYERS, FLA. -- Not all psychopaths end up in prison. Some climb the corporate ladder swiftly and quite successfully, Paul Babiak, PhD, said at the annual meeting of the American Neuropsychiatric Association. The "industrial psychopath" particularly thrives in the organizational chaos that typifies many of today's rapidly growing, downsizing, and merging companies, said Dr. Babiak, who is an industrial-organizational psychologist in Hopewell Junction, N.Y. While the prevalence of psychopathy in the workplace is difficult to estimate, Dr. Babiak noted that manipulation and self-serving dishonesty are hardly unknown. Studies of business have suggested that 15% of top executives misrepresent their education, and one-third of all résumés contain lies. He based his analysis of industrial psychopathy on longitudinal studies of six organizations that were undergoing significant change and in which in-depth interviews, direct observations, and analyses of written records were conducted when Dr. Babiak was called in as a consultant to facilitate "team building" at the companies. Six individuals -- one woman and five men -- were identified as psychopaths on the basis of their scores on the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, which were in the range applied to clinical and criminal populations. Each scored close to the maximum on the personality subscale of the instrument, which measures psychopathic traits such as glibness-superficial charm, pathologic lying, manipulation, and lack of guilt or empathy. Their scores, unsurprisingly, were far lower in the subscale that evaluates the "chronically unstable and antisocial lifestyle" that typifies the more conventional psychopath. A common pattern emerged in the industrial psychopath's behavior within his company. The first stage, "organizational entry," is accomplished by charming the interviewer. Generally, this is "not a difficult thing to do," Dr. Babiak said. The next stage, "assessment," engages the psychopath's skills at gauging the utility of various members of the organization during the "honeymoon period" typically allowed new employees. He begins to charm people in power and others of use to him and establishes a communication network. During the "manipulation" stage, the psychopath spreads disinformation to enhance his image and disparage others. He is adept at creating conflict between those who might pool negative information about him. In these efforts, he mobilizes a full arsenal of effective social tools, such as rational persuasion, inspirational appeal, ingratiation, and coalition, Dr. Babiak continued. This is followed, eventually, by a "confrontation" stage, in which he abandons the "pawns" who are no longer useful to him and takes steps to "neutralize" the detractors whom he has failed to take in. He does this by raising doubts about their competence or honesty. The most successful psychopath finally enters an insidious "ascension" phase during which he abandons his "patrons" -- those well up in the corporate hierarchy who have facilitated his rise to power. "This is seen in one-third of cases," Dr. Babiak observed. The old-fashioned bureaucratic organization is structured and averse to risk. It has rigid policies and procedures, puts a premium on conformity and compliance, and is neither attractive nor
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
SkeptiNews 000612b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/11_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No cultural wounds were peeled open like onions to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Bad Burns: http://www.badburns.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # OOPS! HUNTERS KILL 'BIGFOOT' -- THEN LEARN IT'S A GUY IN A GORILLA SUIT! CLARION, Pa. - Hunters Fred and Gerald Doemer whooped it up after shooting a huge, hairy monster they thought was a Bigfoot. But the good old boys' joy turned to despair when they discovered they'd gunned down a man who'd dressed in a gorilla suit -- to pull off an elaborate Bigfoot hoax! Single .30-.30 shot to the chest: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1976.html # Court reverses Makah whaling ruling - don't kill whales for religion just yet: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567229258-32b # Whaling ban set to end - Likely to send shockwaves through green movement http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_782000/782697.stm # Alligators getting more aggressive - taking revenge on human interlopers. Chomp: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567260579-36e # Where bacteria meet the beach - sewage spills fouling US coastal waters. yUCK: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567260592-45d : Have you killed any living entities lately? Have they killed you? Do your (crypto)zoological endeavours usually end in death/destruction/dismemberment /disappointment/disgust? Have you devoured any organic entities lately? Raw? # "Organically grown carrots" sound so wholesome. Would as many people eat them if they were properly labeled as "grown in excrement"? Ewww... http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/05/21/stirevnws02001.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # U.S. REPORT ON GLOBAL WARMING PREDICTS WIDESPREAD IMPACT. Global warming will produce widespread changes in the U.S. climate in future decades, a govt report to be released Monday predicts. Drought-like conditions will hit every region of the country, sea levels will rise urban populations may wilt under searing temperatures, according to "Climate Change Impacts on the United States." http://CNN.com/2000/NATURE/06/12/climate.changes/ # Warning http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0610government.htm # Solar Flare, CME, Solar Wind Storm - All In One day! Equation: Sunspots = Solar Flares = Magnetic Shift = Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents = Extreme Weather: http://earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0611storm.htm # ALERT SOHO C2 C3: DEBRIS FLYING EVERYWHERE! Evidence of Comet Impact??? Sky is falling: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3593 # Was There A Comet-Planet Collision In Space? Something Is Very Wrong With Comet 76P! http://earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0612collision.htm : Has your home planet's climate changed lately? Is it altered by corporate/ govt/church/alien/divine/stellar/random intervention? Has anything fallen on your head from space lately? Did you notice? Did you throw is back? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Marines hit beach in Kentucky today - Military training for US deployment features mock-terrorism, 'earthquake' - practice for NWO govt overthrow? http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/2612_xnbre_marines_hi.shtml # Quantum Potential Weapons: http://www.cseti.org/position/addition/qp.htm # Cops getting 'fed' up - Uncle Sam has already taken over departments in 2 states - more forthcoming: http://insightmag.com/archive/27101.shtml # US Locked In Civil War. East vs. West: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/atwar.htm # Most Capital Cases Flawed; system collapsing under weight of own mistakes: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/2612/ts/death_penalty_appeals_5.html # EU wants to force Net tax on U.S. - Europeans can now skirt fee - unfair: http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2612_xex_eu_wants_to_.shtml # Info junkies hooked on Web - younger, better-educated Americans go online: http://politicslive.com/a/ap.washington/2611/3943f14d.52cd.6/ap.asp # AMERICAN CYNIC NEWSLETTER: http://www.americancynic.com : Has your state been taken over by Illuminati/soldiers/foreigners/nerds/ETs lately? Is a civil war raging? Would you notice if it wasn't pointed out to you? Are all your govt systems fucked? Would you be better off with anarchy? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Japanese Mafia and Free Energy. $900 million in Gold put their finger on the Scalar EM trigger. U.S. weather engineering now under the control of the Yakuza with leased Russian weapons. The same technology was proven http://cseti.org/bearden/aids/priore.htm in the 1960's to cure cancers
Re: [CTRL] Treatment for Psychopaths Is Likely to Make Them Worse
Prejudice vers preference Can someone agree to disagree or do they have to blame someone else? If something goes wrong - do they try to figure out why and if someone has done it to them do they try to understand what / why that person would do this / that to them. the prejudice is often not against a race, individual, social standing, or money. but against anything that they see as research and development New Ideas These people are not conservatives, they use and abuse conservatives to get what they want - they want to control the new idea but they do not have the mind set to conceive new ideas - they want to control the conservatives - to make those people that are stable - as unstable as they are. Psychopaths are lazy and think that brain chip education would be great they do not realize the the brain is neurons and that nerve cells need to make connections to be able to do concepts. A person able to understand the law compared to someone that is able to understand and argue the true meaning of that law - argue the letter of the law. Justification of behavior they want to be as special as other people and think that if they get what the other has that the "toys" make them special. Robert F. Tatman wrote: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/IMNG/ClinPsychNews/2000/v28.n05/cpn2805.38.02 .html Treatment for Psychopaths Is Likely to Make Them Worse Carl Sherman, Contributing Writer [Clinical Psychiatry News 28(5):38, 2000. © 2000 International Medical News Group.] FORT MYERS, FLA. -- When it comes to treating psychopaths, Robert Hare, PhD, offers you but one succinct bit of advice: "Don't waste your time. Nothing you do can make any difference at all." If anything, data presented by Dr. Hare at the annual meeting of the American Neuropsychiatric Association made that assessment sound overly optimistic. Treatment, in fact, appears to increase the rate of recidivism among criminal psychopaths, he said. Dr. Hare, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, defined psychopathy on the basis of scores on a widely used instrument that he developed -- the Psychopathy Checklist. It measures "arrogant and deceitful personal style," "deficient affective experience," and "impulsive and irresponsible behavioral style." Psychopathy thus defined overlaps with, but is a more selective category than, antisocial personality disorder. Most psychopaths have the disorder, but most with the disorder are not psychopaths. Psychopathy "may be the most important factor in predatory violence," he said. Dr. Hare suggested that psychotherapy for this population is something of an oxymoron. "What do you treat? They have no subjective distress; they don't have low self-esteem; they are not dissatisified with their behavior. Do you treat personality traits that they don't want to change?" Not only are there little if any data substantiating successful treatment for psychopaths, but also several studies suggest that interventions can have a negative outcome. In one study, 176 persons released from a program for "personality-disordered offenders" -- some of whom were psychopaths -- were treated in a program of intensive group and individual therapy (80 hr/wk); 146 personality-disordered offenders who were not treated served as controls. The rate of violent offenses declined in the treated group of nonpsychopaths but actually rose among treated, compared with untreated, psychopaths, Dr. Hare said. In another study of more than 300 offenders in short programs for social skills training and anger management, 12-month reconviction rates were significantly higher in psychopaths who were treated than in nontreated psychopaths, he said. Particularly unsettling were findings from a study of 216 sex offenders. Those with the highest rates of reoffense were the individuals with high psychopathy scores who were rated "good" by psychologists for treatment change, as defined by victim empathy and their understanding of their "offense cycle" and relapse prevention plan. Recidivism, in other words, was most likely in those "who had the ability to convince the therapists they had made good progress in treatment," Dr. Hare said. Why psychotherapy should facilitate, rather than discourage, criminal behavior is unclear, but one quite likely possibly is that therapy -- particularly in the group setting -- provides the psychopath with an opportunity "to learn more about other people. . . . It improves his ability to con," Dr. Hare suggested. Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing
Re: [CTRL] Mrs God WAS: UFO EVIDENCE:
In a message dated 6/12/00 9:20:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system, much less their "Bible," we may not get too far discussing this... However to address your last question about who the Bridegroom and the Bride are... The Bride is the Church of God. The Church of God is the Body of Believers, not just the Catholic church. The Bridegroom, That's Jesus. Jamie I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system either, but the Catholics kept five books that the KJ version eliminated. I ignore the politics of which books are better or more genuine, and just think they're quite beautiful. Also, I know what the standard definition of the Bride and Bridegroom are. I think most people do. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions RIGHT ... and the modernday answer to this prayer is "RAP MUSIC", no doubt? That isidious, demon-possessed, inflammatory platform of hate and defamity propaganda... Just keep throwin' the junk out there, John Lee. You've got a good start on your foundation... And as they say, " ... build the temple and the people will come." eagle 1 - Original Message - From: John Lee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan http://www.ddc.net/ygg/rj/rj-20.htm The Jewish Plan One would think that a minority with above average intelligence would have enough sense to adopt a "live and let live" approach to the majority group. But no, that is not what we get at all in our multi-racial empire. Instead we get a struggle to remake and remold the majority. It is part of the wider campaign by each new arriving group for dominance over the earlier arrivals. Yggdrasil ISRAEL COHEN (1912) "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957 Back to Main Page (c) 1996 Yggdrasil. All rights reserved. Distribute Freely. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PINPOINTING THE BIRTH OF HIV (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:02:30 -0400 From: JONIFERRIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] PINPOINTING THE BIRTH OF HIV New evidence suggests that the strains of HIV that caused the AIDS pandemic originated in the 1930s, according to a report in this week's issue of the journal Science. Bette Kopler and her colleagues at the Los Alamos National Laboratory analyzed the gene sequences of different strains of the HIV virus, using supercomputers to estimate that the virus began spreading in human beings between 1915 and 1941, most likely in 1931. This contrasts with theories that the HIV virus was introduced to humans through polio vaccination programs in the late 1950s. The results suggest that the virus may have been transmitted to humans near the turn of the century and remained isolated in a small population of humans until 1930. "Establishing the date of emergence of HIV is imperative to elucidating how transmission occurred and to finding ways to prevent zoonotic transmission in the future," according to David M. Hillis, a researcher at the University of Texas in Austin. Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More on release of Willey Documents
A white house worker named Willey Said, "Clinton don't be so silly." But he pulled her aside And showed her his pride. Did Willy show Willey his Willy? --- June 12, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 CLINTON AIDE ADMITS WILLEY DOCUMENTS RELEASED TO SHORT-CIRCUIT FURTHER CRIMINAL INQUIRY, INFLUENCE LEWINSKY INVESTIGATION Bruce Lindsey, White House Lawyers Admit Release of Letters, Ruled Illegal By Court, Was To Save Clinton From Impeachment (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that Clinton aide Bruce Lindsey admitted in sworn interrogatory responses that he and other Clinton White House lawyers released documents concerning Kathleen Willey from her government files because her allegations of sexual misconduct against Bill Clinton might influence -- and even expand -- criminal investigations into Mr. Clinton's activities. Lindsey couldn't remember "details" of his conversations, but testified that Bill Clinton "concurred" in the recommendation that the Willey documents be released and that the release be timed until after Ms. Willey's famous interview on 60 Minutes. A federal court judge, The Honorable Royce Lamberth, has already ruled that Bill Clinton and his aides engaged in a criminal violation of the Privacy Act when they released the Willey documents to the press a ruling upheld on appeal. The ruling came in the context in the ongoing Filegate civil lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch on behalf of those Republicans and others whose FBI files were illegally obtained and misused by the Clinton White House. Hillary Clinton, a defendant in this lawsuit, also participated in the Willey document release. The court has ruled that, in the context of the Filegate lawsuit, the misuse of Ms. Willey's government files is circumstantial evidence that the FBI files at issue were misused. In his sworn interrogatory responses, Lindsey admits that: *Mr. Lindsey, Mr. (Charles) Ruff, and Ms. (Cheryl) Mills considered the impact that Ms. Willey's allegations might have on the on-going Lewinsky investigation, the potential for impeachment hearings, and general public confidence in the President's credibility...[they] concluded that Ms. Willey's allegations, without any context, might bias the public and Congress and thereby increase the potential for the expansion of the Independent Counsel's jurisdiction and the likelihood of impeachment proceedings against the President...Once these three individuals concluded, that on balance, the letters should probably be release, they discussed the timing of the release. They decided to wait until after viewing Ms. Willey's appearance to make a final decision regarding the release of the letters and the timing of the release. * "The release of Ms. Willey's documents was not only a criminal violation of the Privacy Act but, as Lindsey's admissions confirm, was also part of an effort to obstruct justice and intimidate a witness in a criminal probe concerning Bill Clinton. Criminal prosecutions are warranted," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Judicial Watch, Inc. is a public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] OT: New Book Feature Talking Clinton Penis
X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY JUNE 12 2000 00:59:41 ET X ESZTERHAS BOOK FEATURES TALKING BILL CLINTON PENIS The president's men have been searching for what would be the legacy of Bill Clinton's presidency. The Middle East? The Economy? Expanding trade with Asia? The legacy moment may come next month when KNOPF unleashes 200,000 copies of Joe Eszterhas' new book, AMERICAN RHAPSODY -- a book which is said to feature Bill Clinton's sex organ! Eszterhas has created a character around President Clinton's penis, according to reports -- a penis which will talk and express opinions in the book. In this study of the American moral psyche, the member, named Willy, is said to be based on a passage from Gennifer Flowers' autobiography. On the audio version, the penis will be played by ABC TV's Bill Maher. "Maher will deliver what will be the most memorable, revealing and talked about 'part' of this and any election year," claims a press release. Eszterhas will appear live on NBC's TODAY to launch the book on July 18. Hosts Katie Couric and Matt Lauer could ask the author why he did not explore Flowers' claim that the president liked to pleasure himself with her sexual aid. [The moment would be a classic for TODAY producer Jeff Zucker. And it would ensure a ratings bounce.] The book is not critical of Clinton, according to a publishing source. "He's just got this thing, and its out of control," describes an insider involved in the publication. "It's a riot!" The audio is being released by Clinton pal Michael Viner, who ran interference during the Kathleen Willey and Elizabeth [Miss America] Gracen sex scandals. In 1992, the Bush campaign accused Viner of illegally contributing to Clinton's candidacy when his DOVE AUDIO produced and distributed tapes of Clinton speeches. "Viner has gone from distributing policy speeches to passing around tapes of Clinton's talking penis?" questioned one RNC official late Sunday night. For his part, Eszterhas says RHAPSODY is a work of non-fiction. "The book and its contents have been under wraps and many are speculating and pretending to know," notes Viner. Let's ask Willy. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Arkansas journalist killed
[Increment the body count? --MS] From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2612_xex_arkansas_jou.sh tml Arkansas journalist killed Motorist not named, nor charged in death of columnist Tony Moser, a critic of the Arkansas Democratic Party political machine, was killed as he crossed a street in Pine Bluff 10 days after being named a columnist for the Democrat-Gazette newspaper and two days after penning a stinging indictment of political corruption in Little Rock. The free-lance writer died Saturday night after being struck in the middle of a busy road, according to Pine Bluff police, who have not yet released an official report on the incident. Police have concluded that no charges will be filed against the unnamed driver of a 1995 Chevrolet pickup, which hit Moser as he was walking alone in the middle of unlit Rhinehart Road about 10:10 p.m. Moser was pronounced dead at 10:52 p.m. at Jefferson Regional Medical Center. Police say they have ruled out foul play and will file no charges against the driver because he was not intoxicated and there was no sign of excessive speed. Moser, who was reportedly living in Pine Bluff, was a former editor of the Little Rock Free Press, a biweekly alternative newspaper, from which he resigned in 1995. Before that he wrote free-lance reviews for the Free Press as well as feature pieces for the Democrat-Gazette. Moser was associate editor of the now-defunct Little Rock alternative paper Spectrum from 1986 to 1988. He was a reporter and columnist at the Arkansas Democrat before that. His weekly column for the Democrat-Gazette began running June 1. His last column was published June 8. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT: New Book Feature Talking Clinton Penis
And when the history books reflect upon William Jefferson Clinton...
is THIS what they will tell the "children" about this president?
And when they *erect* (no pun on words) a memorial to Willie,
will it be the perverbial phallic symbol? Not the oblique obelisk?
America's heritage has much to look forward to, doesn't it?
Bill Maher said it best on his recent HBO parody "Being More Cynical"
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Subject: [CTRL] OT: New Book Feature Talking Clinton Penis
X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY JUNE 12 2000 00:59:41 ET X
ESZTERHAS BOOK FEATURES TALKING BILL CLINTON PENIS
The president's men have been searching for what would be the
legacy of Bill Clinton's presidency.
The Middle East? The Economy? Expanding trade with Asia?
The legacy moment may come next month when KNOPF unleashes
200,000 copies of Joe Eszterhas' new book, AMERICAN RHAPSODY -- a
book which is said to feature Bill Clinton's sex organ!
Eszterhas has created a character around President Clinton's
penis, according to reports -- a penis which will talk and
express opinions in the book.
In this study of the American moral psyche, the member, named
Willy, is said to be based on a passage from Gennifer Flowers'
autobiography.
On the audio version, the penis will be played by ABC TV's Bill
Maher.
"Maher will deliver what will be the most memorable, revealing
and talked about 'part' of this and any election year," claims a
press release.
Eszterhas will appear live on NBC's TODAY to launch the book on
July 18.
Hosts Katie Couric and Matt Lauer could ask the author why he did
not explore Flowers' claim that the president liked to pleasure
himself with her sexual aid.
[The moment would be a classic for TODAY producer Jeff Zucker.
And it would ensure a ratings bounce.]
The book is not critical of Clinton, according to a publishing
source.
"He's just got this thing, and its out of control," describes an
insider involved in the publication. "It's a riot!"
The audio is being released by Clinton pal Michael Viner, who ran
interference during the Kathleen Willey and Elizabeth [Miss
America] Gracen sex scandals.
In 1992, the Bush campaign accused Viner of illegally
contributing to Clinton's candidacy when his DOVE AUDIO produced
and distributed tapes of Clinton speeches.
"Viner has gone from distributing policy speeches to passing
around tapes of Clinton's talking penis?" questioned one RNC
official late Sunday night.
For his part, Eszterhas says RHAPSODY is a work of non-fiction.
"The book and its contents have been under wraps and many are
speculating and pretending to know," notes Viner.
Let's ask Willy.
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[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Echelon in Financial Times
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] Echelon in Financial Times Date: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:46 PM From: http://forum.ft.com/fintimes/Forum88/HTML/01.html Secrets and spies A surveillance system that intercepts communications has become the focus of dispute, writes Thomas Catán Published: May 30 2000 | Last Updated: May 31 2000 07:13GMT Long after most people thought spies had gone into post-cold war retirement, espionage has emerged as one of the most serious irritants to transatlantic relations since beef and bananas. As Bill Clinton, the US president, tours European capitals this week, the European parliament is preparing a year-long investigation into allegations that the US - with the help of Britain and other English- speaking allies - not only spies on foreign companies but feeds its intelligence to US corporations. Next Thursday, European parliament leaders are due to vote on the composition and terms of reference of the inquiry. The claims have touched off a storm in France, and again highlighted suspicions that Britain's loyalties remain divided between America and Europe. That the US eavesdrops on foreign businesses is not in doubt. So, for that matter, do other countries, including France. But whether Washington uses the information to gain underhand commercial advantage over its western allies will be much harder to prove - not least because economic interests and national security have become so closely entwined. At the centre of Continental European anxieties is a global surveillance system, operated by the US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, that intercepts millions of phone calls, faxes and e-mails each day. Codenamed Echelon, it consists of about 10 listening posts worldwide, including at least one in the UK. Data carried by satellites, microwave transmitters and underground cables are searched by computer for keywords; selected data are then sent to the US National Security Agency in Fort Meade, Maryland. What happens to the information once it reaches the triple-fenced compound at Fort Meade is a matter of dispute. In an extraordinary public hearing of the Senate intelligence committee last month, Lt Gen Michael Hayden, director of the NSA, acknowledged that the agency examined intelligence relating to weapons proliferation, money laundering and corporate corruption. But both he and George Tenet, director of the CIA, denied that the information was passed on to US companies. "There are instances where we learn that foreign companies or their governments bribe, lie, cheat and steal their way to disenfranchise American companies," Mr Tenet said. But complaints were always taken up with foreign governments - not the offending company, he stressed: "We play defence. We never play offence." That distinction can be hard to maintain. The report submitted by British journalist Duncan Campbell to the European parliament in February cites two instances in which US companies are said to have benefited from government espionage. In 1994, the report alleged, the US intervened in a Brazilian tender for a $1.3bn surveillance system after the NSA intercepted evidence that Thomson-CSF, the French defence contractor, was offering bribes. Raytheon, the US defence company, won the contract. In the second case, NSA found that agents for Airbus, the European aerospace consortium, were offering bribes to a Saudi official. The Saudi government was alerted; Boeing and McDonnell Douglas won the $6bn contract. Neither case directly contradicts the US's insistence that it uses intelligence only to "level the playing field" in cases where the bidding process has been corrupted. The European Commission and the European parliament have called on companies that feel they have been the victims of espionage to come forward; none has yet done so. But suspicions persist. The US's emphasis on economic security began under the Bush administration, but appears to have been taken up with renewed vigour by the Clinton White House. Warren Christopher, then secretary of state, declared in testimony before the Senate foreign relations committee: "In the post-cold war world, our national security is inseparable from our economic security." To address that new priority, US intelligence support was extended to commercial organisations in 1993 through the creation of a National Economic Council, which mirrors work of the National Security Council. Two years later, the White House National Security Strategy focused on economic security as a national priority. Ron Brown, the late commerce secretary, also set up a business "Advocacy Center", which reportedly combines intelligence with other trade and economic data. One result is the CIA's Daily Economic Briefing, also created under Mr Brown. Though highly classified, the
[CTRL] Freedom of Information (Britland Style)
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250 NAVY SECRETS ARE EMAILED TO SCHOOLGIRL
Claire's war on computer bunglers
A SCHOOLGIRL has been bombarded with 250 emails sent to her by mistake by a
Navy officer.
They include sensitive documents marked "security restricted".
Claire McDonald, 15, and her mum Sharon, 37, alerted the Navy soon after the
messages started arriving in December, but her warning was ignored and she
continued to receive about 11 a week.
She said last night: "I think it is appalling that this sort of sensitive
defence material should be sent to me."
The emails were intended for Royal Navy Commander Jamie Hay, an information
management specialist at the Defence Ministry in London.
They were sent by RN Commander Jim Dale who works at the Pentagon in
Washington. They include:
-Cdr Dale complaining about communications problems on Britain's two largest
warships, the aircraft carriers Invincible and Illustrious;
-Cdr Dale discussing the merits of rival software systems being tested by the
British and US Navies;
-A 64-page document on a defence information management system between the US,
Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the UK - and how to keep the most sensitive
details away from other allies;
-An 82-page document containing the entire information technology strategy for
the New Zealand Navy.
One message contained a comic list of phrases to describe senior officers and
managers.
"Seagull manager" was defined as "a manager who flies in, makes a lot of noise,
craps on everything and leaves!"
Claire, from Exmouth in south Devon, said: "I use my computer for school work
and only go on the internet to chat to friends occasionally. I am not any kind
of hacker - this stuff just keeps arriving and I want it to stop." Exmouth
Community College student Claire, who plans to take a computer course when she
leaves school, added: "I sent an email to Cdr Jim Dale but he replied telling
me there must be a problem with my internet service provider."
The new computer security blunder follows another recent embarrassing incident
when The Mirror recovered and returned a missing laptop, containing secrets, to
the Defence Ministry.
Security experts in Britain and America are investigating the latest slip-up.
Last night, the Ministry denied that any of the emails sent to Claire were
secret.
A spokesman for internet service provider Freeserve said: "Customers register a
domain and Claire chose this address and it belongs to her. The Ministry of
Defence have quoted the wrong address and it is their mistake."
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[CTRL] (Fwd) Bio Warfare Against Cuba
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: 12 Jun 2000 18:10:58 - To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Common Courage Political Literacy Course" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Bio Warfare Against Cuba Common Courage Political Literacy Course - http://www.commoncouragepress.com +-+ C O M M O N C O U R A G E P R E S S' Political Literacy Email Course A backbone of facts to stand up to spineless power. +-+ Monday June 12, 2000 === United States Use of Chemical and Biological Weapons Abroad === In Cuba: 1) In August 1962, a British freighter under Soviet lease, having damaged its propeller on a reef, crept into the harbor at San Juan, Puerto Rico for repairs. It was bound for a Soviet port with 80,000 bags of Cuban sugar. The ship was put into dry dock and 14,135 sacks of sugar were unloaded to a warehouse to facilitate the repairs. While in the warehouse, the sugar was contaminated by CIA agents with a substance that was allegedly harmless but unpalatable. When President Kennedy learned of the operation he was furious because it had taken place in US territory and if discovered could provide the Soviet Union with a propaganda field day and set a terrible precedent for chemical sabotage in the Cold War. He directed that the sugar not be returned to the Russians, although what explanation was given to them is not publicly known. Similar undertakings were apparently not canceled. A CIA official, who helped direct worldwide sabotage efforts against Cuba, later revealed that "There was lots of sugar being sent out from Cuba, and we were putting a lot of contaminants in it." 2) The same year, a Canadian agricultural technician working as an adviser to the Cuban government was paid $5,000 by "an American military intelligence agent" to infect Cuban turkeys with a virus which would produce the fatal Newcastle disease. Subsequently, 8,000 turkeys died. The technician later claimed that although he had been to the farm where the turkeys had died, he had not actually administered the virus, but had instead pocketed the money, and that the turkeys had died from neglect and other causes unrelated to the virus. This may have been a self-serving statement. The Washington Post reported that "According to U.S. intelligence reports, the Cubans--and some Americans--believe the turkeys died as the result of espionage." 3) According to a participant in the project: During 1969 and 1970, the CIA deployed futuristic weather modification technology to ravage Cuba's sugar crop and undermine the economy. Planes from the China Lake Naval Weapons Center in the California desert, where high tech was developed, overflew the island, seeding rain clouds with crystals that precipitated torrential rains over non-agricultural areas and left the cane fields arid (the downpours caused killer flash floods in some areas). This said, it must be pointed out while it's not terribly surprising that the CIA would have attempted such a thing, it's highly unlikely that it would have succeeded except through a great stroke of luck; i.e., heavy rains occurring at just the right time. 4) In 1971, also according to participants, the CIA turned over to Cuban exiles a virus which causes African swine fever. Six weeks later, an outbreak of the disease in Cuba forced the slaughter of 500,000 pigs to prevent a nationwide animal epidemic. The outbreak, the first ever in the Western hemisphere, was called the "most alarming event" of the year by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization.25 5) Ten years later, the target may well have been human beings, as an epidemic of dengue hemorrhagic fever (DHF) swept across the Cuban island. Transmitted by blood-eating insects, usually mosquitos, the disease produces severe flu symptoms and incapacitating bone pain. Between May and October 1981, over 300,000 cases were reported in Cuba with 158 fatalities, 101 of which were children under 15.26 The Center for Disease Control later reported that the appearance in Cuba of this particular strain of dengue, DEN-2 from Southeast Asia, had caused the first major epidemic of DHF ever in the Americas.27 Castro announced that Cuba had asked the United States for a pesticide to help eradicate the fever-bearing mosquito, but had not been given any. In 1956 and 1958, declassified documents have revealed, the US Army loosed swarms of specially bred mosquitos in Georgia and Florida to see whether disease-carrying insects could be weapons in a biological war. The mosquitos bred for the tests were of the Aedes Aegypti type, the precise carrier of dengue fever as well as other diseases. In 1967 it was reported by Science magazine that at the US government center in Fort Detrick, Maryland, dengue fever was amongst those "diseases that are at
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version
Now that was funny. -Original Message- From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version |That's a good one Aleisha... |God HAD to have had a sense of humor... |(I know too many monkeys).And Darwin was one of them. |God just let Darwin monkey around to see |which theory we ultimately decided to believe in |Darwin's or God's. | |Planet of the Apes? Perhaps Charlton Heston has a better perspective on |that, beings he's played the roles of the Saviour of both the human race |and the ape race... | |eagle 1 | | |- Original Message - |From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:26 PM |Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible, King James Version | | | So God had a sense of humor since he made us in his image? He said let | US make man in OUR image? And Darwin said we descended from monkies? | | And God made man in his image? Does this mean God was big Monkey? I | heard that somewhere once, and wondered - family tree all members at one | time hanged from tails? | | So this is the Planet of the Apes? | | A Saba | | A. Saba | Dare To Call It Conspiracy | | | | |. | |A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A |DECLARATION DISCLAIMER |== |CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic |screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are |sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, |misdirections |and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and |minor |effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, |CTRL |gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; |be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and |nazi's need not apply. | |Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. | |Archives Available at: |http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html |A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of |[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A | |http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ | A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A | |To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: |SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: |SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] R.I.P to RIP
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Information technology
Leaders say no to e-snooping
By Jean Eaglesham and Robert Shrimsley
Published: June 11 2000 20:57GMT | Last Updated: June 12 2000 16:06GMT
Business leaders will on Monday throw their weight behind a threatened Lords'
revolt that could defeat the government bill to allow official snooping on e-
mails.
They will warn that the planned legislation will impose a "potentially highly
onerous" burden on companies and could force some high tech firms abroad.
The attack will encourage threats of revolt in the Lords, where peers on Sunday
claimed they had sufficient numbers to defeat the measure - known as the
Regulation of Investigatory Powers bill - unless ministers offer substantial
concessions.
The industry criticisms mark a new low in the government's increasingly
embattled relationship with business. Clashes over the financial services and
markets bill and the tax regime for multinationals are married to a growing
uncertainty about Britains role regarding the euro.
Ministers have worked hard to win industry support for their e-commerce
strategy. Charles Clarke, the home office minister, told the Commons "buy-in
from industry is vital" to the RIP bill.
But the the Alliance for Electronic Business - which includes the Confederation
of British Industry - will today criticise many of the bill's fundamental
precepts.
The turbulent progress of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers bill will be
closely watched by other governments, since the UK is one of the first to try
to impose the right to intercept internet communications. Measures in the
United States to force companies to lodge copies of decryption keys with a
third party were defeated.
Government claims that the RIP bill simply updates existing powers to tap
telephone and postal services are rejected by both industry and civil liberty
campaigners. The bill gives state officials an "unprecedented right of access
to information on legitimate business activities", that could be abused, the
alliance will claim.
The criteria for issuing warrants to state officials are too broad, "imposing
potentially a highly onerous burden on business [by] allowing the secretary of
state to force an intercept requirement on spurious grounds," the alliance will
say. This could "damage the UK's ambitions to becoming the global leader in e-
commerce".
The home office yesterday denied warrants could be issued on spurious grounds,
saying there were a number of safeguards built into the bill to prevent this.
Measures in the bill which could allow at least some of the cost of
interception to be offloaded onto the industry are also attacked by the
alliance. The state must meet the cost in full "to ensure e-business is not
prejudiced and made to operate outside the UK".
Lord McNally, Liberal Democrat peer, on Sunday said he was sure there were
sufficient Tories and cross-benchers ready to side with his party to defeat the
government. The opposition parties have already been discussing tactics with
each other and have warned Mr Clarke to expect defeats unless there are
concessions. They have demanded early publication of a code of conduct for
security authorities using the bill's powers.
The bill is now in committee stage in the Lords and ministers have been told
they have "about 10 days" to head off peers' concerns or risk defeat on a
number of opposiiton amendments.
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Occur to anyone that the direction of our (U.S.) gov't is an attraction to
the Britlanders' magnetic 'of the gov't, for the gov't, by the gov't' policies.
This article gave me some insight on just how the gov't -- with its infinite
(seeming) number of intellectual luminaries (read: bureaucrats) -- has no
problem in imposing itself on the unsuspecting (read: duped) citizenry. Now
that the Britlander business community doesn't like 'e-snooping', there may be
a benefit for the commoners. My insight is rooted in the Britlanders'
willingness to sacrifice all for the sake of that Jolly Ol' Britland JOB), be
it wars in Sierra Leone (and elswhere), taxes on everything, and the reverence
of celebrity (as exemplified by the "Royals" [no, not the typewriters]).
Suggest a reading of Mencken's *The American Language* which delves into the
linguistic (philologic) history of the separation of the countries, by their
language as much as by water. In this, I've learned a new word:
"anglomaniac". And I thought I was on to something original!!! AER
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3
SkeptiNews 000612c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/11_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No opiates were needed to produce this bulletin. But the dentist awaits. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Flash: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_533000/533416.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Life on Jupiter's Moon Io? Forget for the moment about the evidence for life on Mars or Europa. Now we have evidence that life could be thriving within the sulphur spewing volcanos of Io, one of the moons of Jupiter. Hi, guys: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m10-004.shtml # Titan: Moon of Mystery. SATURN's cloud-shrouded moon Titan is struggling to keep its secrets. French astronomers who have peered through the mist using ground telescopes say they have spotted polar caps lofty mountains covered with methane ice. But a US researcher says that images from the Hubble telescope paint a different picture. http://caus.org/pn061200.htm : Have you looked for life lately? Did you find any? Where? How? Why? When? Do y'r planets/satellites/stars struggle to keep their secrets? Need they be 'persuaded' to confess? Have you tried mindcontrol on cosmic bodies? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Russia's Surprise Publication Of Revealing Nuclear Weapons Book - every- thing you wanted to know: http://www.sightings.com/general2/rsss.htm # Time Polarization - Significance Weaponization. Full strategic strikes against the West scheduled: http://cseti.org/position/addition/time.htm # Rival Russian Jewish groups trade barbs. MOSCOW (AP) - An angry dispute has broken out between two rival Jewish groups, with one alleging that the Kremlin is meddling in the community's politics - a rollback to the Soviet era, when the Communist leadership kept religious groups on a short leash. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567273789-56f : What's your favorite Russian conspiracy? Does y'r conspiracy seek/maintain control with military/religious/commercial/alien assistance? Is control elu- sive? Are strategic strikes necessary? Will you nuke anyone soon? Who? When? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Aussie Attraction Spaces Out. Russia's version of space shuttle, which never actually flew in space, is being turned into a tourist attraction. Will visitors flock to check out its cramped cockpit and learn more about space exploration? http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,36870,00.html # SPACEVIEWS 2000.24 - Proton Passes Key Test with CommSat Launch - Pegasus Launches USAF Sat - NEAR Instrument Shut Down - Compton Reentry Linked to Mir - Hale-Bopp Observations Give Clues to Its Origin - U.S. Removes Quotas on Ukrainian Launches - Supermassive Black Holes Tied to Galaxy Formation - House Committee Approves NASA Budget - Company to Fly First Web Server in Space - The Challenges of Hubble's Successor - Astronomers Weigh Universe with Galactic Map: http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/0612/ : What's your favorite spacey attraction? Should all failed/unused/surplus space equipment be recycled for entertainment/education/propaganda? Have you recycled/refurbished any obsolete spacecraft lately? Do they fly well?Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pain relief substitute for morphine. (BBC) Scientists have developed a way to relieve pain that could provide a long-sought after alternative to mor- phine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_783000/783921.stm # Also - Scientists boost power of morphine - gimmee another superfix: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_576000/576089.stm # Pain is in the genes, says study - we're wired to suffer. Bother. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_398000/398542.stm @ Links - Opioids: http://hivpositive.com/f-PainHIV/Pain/PainMenu3a.html @ Online pain journals: http://www.pain.com/onlinepainjournal/ # Cannabis Royale. LONDON (Reuters) A plant thought to be pot was found in a police raid on staff quarters at Buckingham Palace,home of Britain's Queen Elizabeth. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000612/10/odd-royals-pot-dc : What's your fave pain relief procedure? Is pain best controlled by drugs, surgery, mindcontrol rays, genetic reengineering, hypnosis, prayer, chance? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hackers invade Malaysia Web sites. KUALA LUMPUR (AP) - Hackers have broken into dozens of Malaysian political Websites, leaving govt officials and opposition leaders fuming Sunday over images of rotting skulls and obscene messages. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567257754-636 # Taiwan: Silicon Island? www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,36920,00.html # Cyber-pirates loot Asia's Web boom - easier than skyjacking, bank robbery, forgery:
[CTRL] Another take on Syria's President Assad
from http://www.tzemach.org/fyi/assad.htm Forwarded for information and discussion only ~~~ WINSTON MID EAST ANALYSIS COMMENTARY June 10, 2000 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please disseminate re-post. If you publish, send us a copy. Please see our web sites at http://www.gamla.org.il http://freeman.io.com HAFEZ AL-ASSAD IS DEAD by Emanuel A. Winston, Middle East Analyst Commentator Hafez al-Assad was many things to many people and his death is being explained mostly by newscasters who knew little about the man. Politicians are shedding crocodile tears as if a great statesman has passed instead of the cruel dictator and killer that he was. Strange how death turns an evil man into someone noble. Bill Clinton is already shedding those familiar tears and revising history regarding Assads true character as fast as he can. Yassir Arafat, the man whom Assad would not allow into his country, has declared a three day mourning period. Assad and Arafat shared an intense mutual hatred and it was only a matter of time before one of Assads terrorist proxies assassinated Arafat. But, all of that is mere trivia when one observes the potential ripple effect of his death. Keep in mind that Assad ruled as a minority Alawite (member of a Muslim sect) representing 10% of the population. Sunni Muslims account for 85% and there is a 5% Christian minority. Assad ruled through terror as most Arab dictators do. His army and numerous secret police sections were staffed at the officer level by Alawites. The population was terrorized on the outside by his large army and on the inside by his terrorist secret police. This is how he kept the Sunnis under tight control. The Sunnis, however, regarded themselves as culturally and intellectually superior to the Alawites, who they looked upon as the proverbial peasants. The coming ripple effect may include some or all of the following: Once they recover their sense of power, the Sunnis could rise up in the weeks and months to come and drive the Alawites out of Syria. While in power and control of the military, the Alawites would commandeer the best of Syrias military hardware and flee toward Beirut and then Northwest toward the coastal cities on the Mediterranean of Latakiya, Baniyas, or Babenna which have a strong Alawite presence and are between Lebanon and Turkey. There they could establish a well-armed narrow state of their own. (They will not flee toward Hama where Assad and his brother Rifat slaughtered 20,000 Sunnis with artillery and gas.) Also keep in mind that Assad has been accumulating an inventory of long range missiles with chemical warheads. The fleeing Alawites cannot expect to be welcomed by the Lebanese who suffered under Assad. Besides in 1970 when the Lebanese took in the Palestinian refugees (ejected from Jordan for trying to take over that country) their guests savaged them for the next 12 years. The Alawite-dominated army will first support Assads son Bashar as their puppet leader for what may be their short term hold on power. If they can maintain Assads former grip on power and make it last, at least for a while, they may win. Otherwise they will break and flee the rage of the Sunnis. My bet is the Sunnis will wake up, realize their power and drive the Alawites out of Syria. Rifat, Assads ruthless and cruel brother has influence and power within the Alawite Army and will, no doubt, try to come to power. This will result in a power struggle between factions of the Army with Bashar and Assads brother-in-law on one side. Its the brother-in-law who controlled the growing and trafficking of drugs from the Bekaa Valley in partnership with the Columbia drug cartel. Twenty (20%) of the drugs landed in America came from the Bekaa Valley. Clinton arranged payment to Assad to cease growing drugs but the money was absorbed and the cash crops continue to grow. Clinton did not challenge Assad even though the drugs he produced were destroying the youth of America. Assad was too important politically to Clinton. In Lebanon, there could be a movement to break away from Syria and force Syrias 40,000 man army (who are primarily stationed in the Bekaa Valley) out of Lebanon. Syrias Alawite dominated Army, with its Sunni foot soldiers, could face a strange coalition of Lebanese Muslims and Christians who want their country back. Iraq and Iran also have a vested interest in Syria with their own teams inside of Syria to side with one or the other power brokers trying to take them over. Keep in mind that Iraq has a long border with Syria with a Sunni majority also under the terror control of Saddam Hussein. Israel could explore the many cracks opening up in Syrias control structure but that is unlikely under the weak leadership of Ehud Barak. The Left Labor Party in Israel has sold themselves on the fiction that giving up the Golan Heights would mute the hatred and warlike attitude of
[CTRL] CLINTON AIDE ADMITS WILLEY DOCUMENTS RELEASED TO SHORT-CIRCUIT INQUIRY
CLINTON AIDE ADMITS WILLEY DOCUMENTS RELEASED TO SHORT-CIRCUIT INQUIRY, INFLUENCE INVESTIGATTION FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 12, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 CLINTON AIDE ADMITS WILLEY DOCUMENTS RELEASED TO SHORT-CIRCUIT FURTHER CRIMINAL INQUIRY, INFLUENCE LEWINSKY INVESTIGATION Bruce Lindsey, White House Lawyers Admit Release of Letters, Ruled Illegal By Court, Was To Save Clinton From Impeachment (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that Clinton aide Bruce Lindsey admitted in sworn interrogatory responses that he and other Clinton White House lawyers released documents concerning Kathleen Willey from her government files because her allegations of sexual misconduct against Bill Clinton might influence -- and even expand -- criminal investigations into Mr. Clinton's activities. Lindsey couldn't remember "details" of his conversations, but testified that Bill Clinton "concurred" in the recommendation that the Willey documents be released and that the release be timed until after Ms. Willey's famous interview on 60 Minutes. A federal court judge, The Honorable Royce Lamberth, has already ruled that Bill Clinton and his aides engaged in a criminal violation of the Privacy Act when they released the Willey documents to the press a ruling upheld on appeal. The ruling came in the context in the ongoing Filegate civil lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch on behalf of those Republicans and others whose FBI files were illegally obtained and misused by the Clinton White House. Hillary Clinton, a defendant in this lawsuit, also participated in the Willey document release. The court has ruled that, in the context of the Filegate lawsuit, the misuse of Ms. Willey's government files is circumstantial evidence that the FBI files at issue were misused. In his sworn interrogatory responses, Lindsey admits that: Mr. Lindsey, Mr. (Charles) Ruff, and Ms. (Cheryl) Mills considered the impact that Ms. Willey's allegations might have on the on-going Lewinsky investigation, the potential for impeachment hearings, and general public confidence in the President's credibility...[they] concluded that Ms. Willey's allegations, without any context, might bias the public and Congress and thereby increase the potential for the expansion of the Independent Counsel's jurisdiction and the likelihood of impeachment proceedings against the President...Once these three individuals concluded, that on balance, the letters should probably be release, they discussed the timing of the release. They decided to wait until after viewing Ms. Willey's appearance to make a final decision regarding the release of the letters and the timing of the release. "The release of Ms. Willey's documents was not only a criminal violation of the Privacy Act but, as Lindsey's admissions confirm, was also part of an effort to obstruct justice and intimidate a witness in a criminal probe concerning Bill Clinton. Criminal prosecutions are warranted," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Judicial Watch, Inc. is a public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corrupttion. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMPEACH RENO NOW! ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS
http://www.judicialwatch.org/ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 12, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 IMPEACH RENO NOW! ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS Burton's Statements About Criminal Referrals Not Likely To Come to Pass Under Even a Bush Administration, Since Family Has Shown No Desire To Challenge Clintons and Others On Ethics and Legal Issues (Washington, DC) If only it were true that once this Clinton-Gore Administration is over, the Republican Congress -- assuming it wins reelection, and that is a big "if " in the House of Representatives -- would make criminal referrals in the Chinagate scandal to new leadership at the U.S. Department of Justice. Indeed, Judicial Watch, which sparked the scandal with its case against the Clinton-Gore Commerce Department and the testimony of John Huang in October, 1996, has a vested interest, on behalf of the American people, in seeing to it that justice is done. Unfortunately, the statements of Chairman Dan Burton of the House Government Reform Committee on yesterday's morning talk shows were likely just more political posturing during an election season. This is true for a number of reasons. First, assuming George W. Bush wins the Presidency, a great assumption given the toss-up nature of the race, his history, both in this race and as Governor of Texas, has been to show little to no interest in pursuing government ethics and corruption issues through legal proceedings. Indeed, his stump speech is limited in this regard to putting his hand on the Bible and only promising that he won't do what Clinton did. If Mr. Bush lives by the scripture, his promise is unnecessary. Second, the Bush family has never shown an inclination in "going for the jugular," as perhaps they view themselves as part of the Establishment. Indeed, it was George Bush, Sr. who, over the last several years, has written letters in support of President Clinton -- most recently urging that his Secret Service detail not be interrogated over the Lewinsky scandal. Jeb Bush, who is Governor of Florida, could have his Attorney General investigate the illegal Clinton-Gore Chinagate money laundering which took place among Democrat fundraisers in South Florida, but he has never, and will never, do so. Indeed, both Bush brothers have been virtually silent on the illegal raid of the Miami relatives and neighbors' quarter of Little Havana. The Bush family is trained to not create controversy, as this could rock the apple cart and cause counter- investigations of their alleged picadillos. The Republicans have the power to take action now, rather than promising false criminal referrals in the future. They compose the majority in Congress, and they have always had the power to commence impeachment proceedings against Reno and her deputies for their obvious obstruction of justice. That the Republicans choose not to do so, and would rather make empty future promises, speaks to their electioneering and pandering to conservatives, libertarians, and others who are upset by their continuing impotence. "Actions speak louder than words, particularly after four years of doing virtually nothing but holding hearings for public consumption during election periods. Until the American people see impeachment proceedings for Janet Reno and her aides, the Republicans should simply stop making false promises intended only to deceive their supporters," stated Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman. ### -- Judicial Watch, Inc. 501 School Street, S.W.; Suite 725; Washington, D.C. 20024 Tel: (888) JW-ETHIC; Fax: (202) 646-5199 http://www.JudicialWatch.org - © 2000, Judicial Watch, Inc. ® All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Pot Shrinks Tumors - Government Knew It In 1974 (fwd)
Sections 5/2, 5/3 and 5/44 tell the story plainly. "Our" gov't wants every
opportunity it can devise to criminalize and thus profiteer from every
opportunity Ron Wilson
5-0 FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT 5/2- 3 - 4 tell the story plainly. "Our" gov't
wants every opportunity it can devise to criminalize and thus profiteer on
its' citizens. Ron Wilson
5-1 Federal Reserve System: A Cartel of private banks owned, operated and
overseen by elite super-wealthy financiers, such as the Rockefellers,
Mellons, DuPonts, Rothschilds, etc., which dictates to the Government the
flow of money, worth of money, and the interests rates.
5-2 CIA self-financing
The operation and/or control of much of the international drug trade in
heroin, cocaine and marijuana, as well as "front" business enterprises, as a
source of cash for off-the-books covert operations, and the purchase of
exotic munitions and strategic bribe funds.
5-3 Department of Justice self-financing
the use of confiscated money and valuables from "targets of investigation"
to finance "special projects".
5-4 Special Forces self-financing.
The self-use of confiscated money from covert military operations to fund
other clandestine operations.
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[Anyone have any details of said pending legislation? --MS]
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Knowledge Control
http://www.reason.com/sullum/060700.html
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However scandalous it may be, writing about heroin, unlike using
it, is not illegal. But a bill known as the Methamphetamine
Anti-Proliferation Act could change that.
MAPA, which was unanimously approved by the Senate in November,
is being considered by the House Judiciary Committee. Among other
things, the House version would make it a federal offense,
punishable by up to 10 years in prison, "to distribute by any
means information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the
manufacture or use of a controlled substance" if one intends or
knows that the information will "be used for, or in furtherance
of, an activity that constitutes a Federal crime." (snip)
Censorship is not the only threat. Another MAPA provision
authorizes "sneak and peek" searches of people's homes. Federal
agents could execute a search without notice and make copies of
papers or computer files without furnishing a list of what they
took.
Subject: Pot Shrinks Tumors - Government Knew It In 1974
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:31:40
Gee, I can't understand why we have not heard of this research.
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[CTRL] Buybacks encourage criminals to steal guns.
Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people.-- Ezekiel 33:2-3 "To keep the peace, keep your piece". http://www.njlp.org/html/body_19990919gunbuybacks.html Why criminals will love President Clinton's$15 million gun buyback program WASHINGTON, DC -- A plan by President Clinton to spend $15 million to launch a nationwide gun "buyback" program is not only a waste of money -- it's a cheap public relations stunt that will have zero impact on gun crime, the Libertarian Party predicted today. In recent local gun buybacks, a majority of sellers were women and senior citizens who explained that they're afraid of guns and wanted to get them out of the house. In other words, these are the people least likely to use them for criminal purposes."The only people who will benefit from this buyback program are politicians and criminals," said the party's national director, Steve Dasbach. "Criminals like it because it will take only a minuscule percentage of guns out of circulation -- almost all of them from law-abiding people who will become disarmed. And politicians like it because they get to spend our money while pretending to solve a problem." Last week, Clinton proposed to hand out $15 million in federal grants to police departments to buy guns from public housing residents as part of "the largest gun buyback project in American history." But before that $15 million is squandered, politicians should study the evidence against government buyback programs, said Dasbach. The fact is: The people LEAST likely to turn in guns are criminals. "Expecting a criminal to turn in a gun is like expecting a carpenter to turn in his favorite hammer -- or expecting a politician to surrender his power to write more gun laws," said Dasbach. "They're simply tools of the trade. Even dumb criminals are too smart to give up their guns." The people MOST likely to turn in guns are law-abiding citizens. "In recent local gun buybacks, a majority of sellers were women and senior citizens who explained that they're afraid of guns and wanted to get them out of the house. In other words, these are the people least likely to use them for criminal purposes," said Dasbach. Buybacks disarm future crime victims. "Americans who turn in their guns can no longer use them to defend themselves against murderers, rapists, and thieves," said Dasbach. "It may be a voluntary disarmament program, but it's a disarmament program nonetheless that leaves people defenseless against criminals." Buybacks encourage criminals to steal guns. "No-questions-asked buyback programs actually give street thugs an incentive to steal firearms and sell them to police departments," noted Dasbach. "So, this buyback program will help criminals profit, while turning local police departments into fencing operations." Besides the Libertarians, does anyone else question the usefulness of gun buyback programs? Yes, said Dasbach: The federal government. Out of the $15 million earmarked for this project, $1 million will go to study the effectiveness of gun buyback programs. "It's typical of the politicians: They decide to spend $14 million on a program, and then spend $1 million to see if they wasted that $14 million," he said. "If it was their own money, it would be funny. Since it's the taxpayers' money, it's an outrage." The government could save that $1 million, he said, by simply reviewing the research done by Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck, who found that buyback programs "have no demonstrable impact on crime" -- but do yield "real political benefits." And then the government could save the $14 million by simply canceling the buyback program, said Dasbach. "This program won't reduce crime, and it's foolish to pretend otherwise," he said. "It's time to tell politicians that Americans aren't buying the gun buyback program." http://www.njlp.org/html/body_19990919gunbuybacks.html Bard "keep private lands in private hands". http://www.sovereignty.net/land/
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
`Well now Eagle1, Where are you balls, or is it a cunt? Do you have a name? Or are you shamed by it? Don't play nasty with me because you don't have a chance of winning when it comes to nasty. Where did you come up with the idea of Rap music? Do you like it? If so, listen to it. No sane White man or Woman would. But of course, there are not so very many that are sane; if they were, they would listen to what Jews say when they talk about the destruction of Whites. But then, most Whites are like you; they love everyone but themselves and are very anxious to see themselves destroyed. And that would be a good thing too, because then Mother Earth could get back to normal after Blacks ate each other to extinction and Jew parasites ceased to exist because they have never developed a social structure that could survive on its own and prove that day by day in so-called Israel. Do your own research if you know how, or leave the idiot emotionalism out and let's get to brass tacks. You know, the ones that won't corrode in a polluted mind. John Lee - Original Message - From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions RIGHT ... and the modernday answer to this prayer is "RAP MUSIC", no doubt? That isidious, demon-possessed, inflammatory platform of hate and defamity propaganda... Just keep throwin' the junk out there, John Lee. You've got a good start on your foundation... And as they say, " ... build the temple and the people will come." eagle 1 - Original Message - From: John Lee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan http://www.ddc.net/ygg/rj/rj-20.htm The Jewish Plan One would think that a minority with above average intelligence would have enough sense to adopt a "live and let live" approach to the majority group. But no, that is not what we get at all in our multi-racial empire. Instead we get a struggle to remake and remold the majority. It is part of the wider campaign by each new arriving group for dominance over the earlier arrivals. Yggdrasil ISRAEL COHEN (1912) "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957 Back to Main Page (c) 1996 Yggdrasil. All rights reserved. Distribute Freely. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
[CTRL] two party beltway duopoly headed for the Graveyard!
To help make it happen Folks, it is vital that you send principled Constitutional Conservatives to Congress this Fall to replace the de-facto United States Government of the Insiders international banking cartel. Mr. Buchanan will need their support to restore our Nation to a Constitutional Republic. Power MUST be transferred FROM: The Harold Pratt House 58 East 68th Street New York, NY 10021 Tel. (212) 434-9400; Fax: (212) 861-1789 Washington Office: 1779 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20036 Tel. (202) 518-3400; Fax (202) 986-2984 http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/ci.html TO: United States Senate Washington, DC 20510 United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 (202)224-3121 Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm "keep private lands in private hands". http://www.sovereignty.net/land/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Arizona Buchanan Puts Reform on Ballot in Arizona VIENNA, VA. Today, Buchanan Reform announced that it had succeeded in putting the Reform Party on the ballot in Arizona. Buchanan Reform turned in to Arizonas Secretary of State more than 20,000 certified signatures; 13,569 were required. The Arizona ballot drive marks the sixth state that the Buchanan forces had secured a ballot position for the Reform Party. Said Reform candidate Pat Buchanan: Were headed to be on the ballot in all fifty states. Our folks in Arizona, led by Reform Party activist John Gilbert, have done an outstanding job. The two party beltway duopoly is headed for the graveyard. Arizona voters will have a real choice when they go to the polls in November. http://gopatgo2000.com/r_e.asp?f_p=46150f_e=arc A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [freefire] Know your enemy! Comprehensive List
Give the List a careful read, Folks. BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm The two party beltway duopoly is headed for the graveyard. No more homosexual sex education.. http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htmKids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex -Original Message-From: FF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 2:37 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [freefire] Know your enemy! Comprehensive List My advice with the info below is to choose a target to write letters, call, or boycott. If you or your local (or internet) RKBA group is targeting a specific group or person, please let me know so I can post your target and their contact info. Have fun! JS __ Here is the list of AntiConstitutionalists that hate us and the way we choose to live our lives. Know yourenemy, check these characters out. Please post any e-mail, phone #'sor addresses you find out. TGD National Organizations With Anti-Gun Policies The following organizations have lent monetary, grassroots or someother type of direct support to anti-gun organizations. In many instances,these organizations lent their name in support of specific campaigns topass anti-gun legislation such as the March 1995 HCI 'Campaign to Protect Sane Gun Laws.' Many of these organizations were listed as 'CampaignPartners,' for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal the Brady Act and theClinton 'assault weapons' ban. All have officially endorsed anti-gunpositions. 20/20 Vision AFL-CIO American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry American Academy of Child Adolescent Psychiatry American Academy of Pediatrics American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing American Academy of Pediatrics American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities American Association of Retired Persons American Association of School Administrators American Association for the Surgery of Trauma American Association of Retired Persons American Association for World Health American Association of Neurological Surgeons American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences American Bar Association American Civil Liberties Union American Counseling Association American Ethical Union American Federation of Teachers American Firearms Association American Jewish Committee American Jewish Congress American Medical Association American Medical Women's Association American Medical Student Association American Nurses Association American Psychological Association American Public Health Association American Trauma Society Americans for Democratic Action Anti-Defamation League Association of American Medical Colleges B'nai B'rith Black Mental Health Alliance Central Conference of American Rabbis Children s Defense Fund Church of the Brethren Coalition for Peace Action Coalition to Stop Gun Violence College Democrats of America Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse World Peace Common Cause Congress of National Black Churches, Inc. Congress of Neurological Surgeons Consumer Federation of America Council of Chief State School Officers Council of the Great City Schools Dehere Foundation Disarm Educational Fund Environmental Action Foundation Episcopal Church-Washington Office Florence and John Shumann Foundation Friends Committee on National Legislation General Federation of Women's Clubs George Gund FundAmbulatory Pediatric Association Gray Panthers H.M. Strong Foundation Hadassah Harris Foundation Hechinger Foundation Int'l Association of Educators for World Peace Int'l Ladies' Garment Workers' Union Interfaith Neighbors Jewish Labor Committee Joyce Foundation Lauder Foundation Lawrence Foundation League of Women Voters of the United States* Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical LutheranChurch in America Manhattan Project II Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office National Assembly of National Voluntary Health Social Welfare Organizations National Association of School Psychologists National Association of Children's Hospitals and RelatedInstitutions National Association of Chain Drug Stores National Association for the Advancement of Colored People National Association of Police Organizations National Association of Social Workers National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates Practitioners National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers National Association of Elementary School Principals* National Association of Public Hospitals National Association of Secondary School Principals National Association of Counties* National Association of Community Health Centers National Black Nurses' Association National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth National Coalition Against Domestic Violence National Commission for Economic Conversion Disarmament National Council of the Churches of
[CTRL] INFOTERRA: GW: Drastic Climate Changes Forecast
Global warming in the 21st century will likely cause drastic changes in the climate of the United States, including potentially severe droughts, increased risk of flood, mass migrations of species, substantial shifts in agriculture and widespread erosion of coastal zones, a new federal report says http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39384-2000Jun11.html Warming of the global climate is likely to have substantial consequences -- for better and worse -- around the United States in coming decades, including bumper crops in the heartland, chronic erosion of coasts, summer water shortages and winter floods in the West and a future New York City that steams in summer like present-day Atlanta http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/061200sci-environ-cli mate.html Climate Change Impacts on the United States (US Global Change Research Information Office) http://www.gcrio.org/NationalAssessment/ _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Portal for ecology, politics consciousness. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] earthradioTV.com MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [The Grip] (Fwd) $ greedy Jews exploit The Holocaust for $
The definitive lesson of history could be summed up in one plausible vignette - Herod, on his way back from Calvary, saying, "I would never have gotten away with it without the Media on my side." Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [The Grip] (Fwd) The Holocaust Industry --- Forwarded message follows --- The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering, by Norman G Finkelstein, is to be published by Verso on July 20, £16 A Jewish academic is afraid that rampant exploitation of the Holocaust is summoning up a new anti-semitism. It is hard not to agree, says Bryan Appleyard Stop, in the name of the Holocaust I sometimes think," writes the American academic Dr Norman Finkelstein, "the worst thing that ever happened to the Nazi Holocaust was that American Jewry discovered it." The quotation comes from Finkelstein's explosive and bitterly angry book The Holocaust Industry, to be published here next month. It accuses those who exploit the Holocaust of telling lies, conniving in Israeli atrocities, and of naked greed. The pursuit of reparations from Swiss bankers and others is damned as "an outright extortion racket". The ruthless industrialisation of the Holocaust has encouraged the rebirth of anti-semitism in Europe and the United States. And, in conversation with me, he said the fascination with Holocaust memorials and museums - the latest being the permanent exhibition at London's Imperial War Museum, opened by the Queen last week - was "a kind of circus". If any of this had been written or said by a non-Jew with no direct experience of the Holocaust, it would have been savaged as anti- semitism or, worse, Holocaust denial. But Finkelstein is a Jew - though non-observant - both of whose parents were survivors of the Warsaw ghetto and concentration camps. All the members of their families were wiped out by the Nazis. Even so, his views make him an outcast among the American Jewish establishment and define him, for many, as an enemy of Israel. So why has he done it? "I will not have," he shouts down the phone from New York, "the suffering of my parents used for any ulterior purpose, whether it be the prevention of the assimilation of Jews or the defence of Israel." Finkelstein's father never spoke of his experience, but his mother spoke of little else. Yet, he recalls, even she was disgusted at the rise of the Holocaust industry in America. There were, he says, only 60,000 Jewish survivors of the camps and 20,000 of those died in the first week after liberation. Yet in the 1960s and 1970s many of his parents' friends started claiming to be survivors. Soon everybody was a victim of the great martyrdom. "I'm not exaggerating when I say that one out of three Jews you stop in the street in New York will claim to be a survivor. And, since 1993, the industry has been claiming that 10,000 survivors have been dying every month. That is completely impossible. It would mean that there were 8m survivors in 1945, but there were only 7m Jews in German-occupied Europe before the war." Finkelstein says the Holocaust industry was born at the time of the six-day war in June 1967 - before that both the Holocaust and Israel were scarcely mentioned in American public life. But it was not born, as many have said, out of fear for the survival of Israel; rather it sprang from American strategic interests. Israel became the American surrogate in the Middle East and the Holocaust was evoked morally to justify the alliance. Israel became the defender of US values and, since America at that time was losing the Vietnam war, it was a more effective defender than America herself. The American Jewish elite embraced the cause of Israel and created the contemporary image of the Holocaust. Finkelstein highlights the power of this elite by pointing out that Jewish income is almost double that of non-Jews, 16 of the 40 wealthiest Americans are Jews, 40% of Nobel prizewinners in science and economics are Jewish, 20% of professors at main universities are Jewish, as are 40% of partners in law firms in New York and Washington. Led by campaigners such as Simon Wiesenthal and Elie Wiesel - Finkelstein claims the latter gets a minimum lecture fee of $25,000 plus chauffeured limousine - the industry insists on the unique nature of the atrocity. It can be compared, they say, to nothing else. Finkelstein - rightly, I believe - identifies this as the intellectual heart of the matter. Wiesel and others insist that the Holocaust stands outside history and rational discussion. The only final response is silent incomprehension. This position has become so extreme that any attempt to compare it with other episodes of human cruelty - Finkelstein mentions the deaths of 10m Africans in the
[CTRL] criminal court intolerable to the Defense Department
By PAMELA HESS MOSCOW, June 12 (UPI) -- Defense Secretary William Cohen says establishing an independent and international criminal court for human rights violations would be "intolerable" to the Defense Department if it did not include an exception for the United States and any other country with a respected judicial system. "If there are no protections for our soldiers -- we are the ones that are called upon virtually every time to be deployed all over the world -- then we would adamantly oppose that," Cohen told reporters en route to Moscow. As conceived in 1998, when the United Nations first proposed establishing the court, soldiers and leaders of any country could face criminal charges and penalties in the court even if their home nations have not agreed to honor its authority. The United States has not ratified the proposal, which had overwhelming U.N. approval. With more than 200,000 U.S. soldiers deployed overseas, opportunities to manipulate the court to hamstring the United States would abound, Cohen said. Cohen worries that the court's inquiries would be unchecked by any power -- like the U.N. Security Council, for instance, of which the United States is a permanent member -- and could be used frivolously against the U.S. troops. "Our concern is once you have a totally independent international court that is not under the jurisdiction, supervision or is in any way influenced, obligated or accountable to a supervisory institution like the U.N. Security Council, then the potential for allegations to be made against our soldiers could be frivolous in nature," he said. "You could have charges brought before The Hague and this, I think, would be very destructive to our international participation. It would be intolerable as far as our people our concerned." NATO faced allegations for months that it had committed war crimes in Yugoslavia during last year's war, charges that were cleared by the standing war crimes tribunal only last week after prolonged investigations. "The very notion that there would be an allegation of war crimes, given what we went through to protect innocent life, is I think a shape of some things to come in the way of allegations to come by third parties or nations that would seek to embarrass or hinder our participation in international affairs," Cohen said. He argued that the U.S. military and public criminal justice system should be adequate to satisfy international concern about troops' conduct of war. "We have demonstrated over the years wherever there is an allegation of abuse on the part of a soldier we have a judicial system that will deal with it very effectively," Cohen said. "As long as we have a respected judicial system then there should be some insulation factor (for the United States.)" -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. -- Message: WWN-UPI-1-2612-09501700-bc-cohen-humanrights Content: SRV-UPIWASH SRV-INTNEWS Content: LEGAL Content: 0200 -- -- %INTERNATIONAL %COHEN %HUMANRIGHTS V%UPI P%UPI Search news for: Search by:Keyword Ticker Search Keyword examples: "general motors", bio technology and venture, yen Symbol: A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: DON'T LET THE FBI REMOVE THIS MESSAGE ! COPY IT, POST IT ! SPREAD IT AROUND !!! THE FBI IS THE CATCHER IN THE RYE !!!
I'm convinced that this government will do ANYTHING to better or perpetuate government workers, politicians and/or the government itself! They couldn't care less about you, me, the constitution, or the law of the land! It's all about money. Read Robert Cohen's book: "Milk the Deadly Poison" to see how easily Monsanto bribed Congress, bought off the FDA, and absolutely disregarded the health and well being of the people of the USA. Ron Wilson. - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:43 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: DON'T LET THE FBI REMOVE THIS MESSAGE ! COPY IT, POST IT ! SPREAD IT AROUND !!! THE FBI IS THE CATCHER IN THE RYE !!! The above title is not mine, but for sometime I have wondered about this KGB influencing our CIA/FBI but consider now, this KGB is one of the biggest Mafia's of all time. Waco - the tactics used by the FBI and BATF were criminal - Delta involved - do you really think those Delta guys died in plane crashes, etc? Now Littleton - two kids turned on their classmates. In a movie with Wynona Ryder, and this Christian Slater - the idea was to blow up a school and kill all the kids, in particular The Heathers, the Jocks - and in a cafeteria this Slater brought out a gun which was blanks, dressed in black trench coat and took off a few shots. Now Wynona Ryder, is Jewish and this could have had an effect on Klebold? Regardless, who were the victims? Isn't it possible that Klebold and Harris both were victims and murdered by the FBI? To keep them silent for both obviously were on drugs and what could be behind this. Classes in death, teachers who looked sick in the head. But this tape made prior to the murders - an actual video tape of Trench Coat Mafia blowing up school and shooting classmatesblack trench coats? Suggestion under drugs? Survivors said Klebold and Harris - their eyes looked strange - probably fixed unable to move due to hypnotic drugs. But this son of FBI agent who was in on the making of a tape whereby an entire school would be blown up, kids murdered - and the father of this kid was FBI agent on scene investigating Littleton? Like little Buford with his little packages of neo nazi literature so we would know who he is? and he rushed to the arms of his programmers, the FBI - in a taxi cab.remember the movie Taxi for that movie allegedly gave Hinckley the idea to try to murder Reagon? That murder was planned six months before Reagan go elected and the Press Agent was a primary target So this item worth reading for all conspiracy minded investigators and researchers.. Oh Clinton and his "we see through the glass but darkly" and Chapman and Sirhan and Hinckley and Ruby and Oswald.Oswald in Russia was spaced out and is alleged to have ried to commi suicide - he brought home a wife whose Uncle was in KGB. Can't you see these criminals in our White House what they are? This is not Dixie Mafia, this is KGB..this is Israel who murders anyone whom they feel to be a threat and that includes our President if need be - but boy they sure got Clinton with that Mossad prostitute. A Saba Re: DON'T LET THE FBI REMOVE THIS MESSAGE ! COPY IT, POST IT ! SPREAD IT AROUND !!! THE FBI IS THE CATCHER IN THE RYE !!! [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Sounding Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted by kid from coq on September 08, 1999 at 16:43:11: In Reply to: Re: DON'T LET THE FBI REMOVE THIS MESSAGE ! COPY IT, POST IT ! SPREAD IT AROUND !!! THE FBI IS THE CATCHER IN THE RYE !!! posted by Stacie Cheecho on October 01, 1998 at 11:45:09: : : THE FBI IS THE CATCHER IN THE RYE : THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN LENNON : : : : QUESTION POSTED ON THE J.D. SALINGER CHAT ROOM : : ? : : MY ANSWER : : : Yes, I suggest you teach your students the following information : : : : : : : How "The Catcher in the Rye" "motivated" Mark Chapman to shoot John : : Lennon : : : Mark Chapman is the victim of an artificially induced MODEL PSYCHOSIS. (Look this term up in a medical dictionary). The characteristics of an artificial model psychosis are as follows : : : If an individual is continuously subjected for 5-7 days to intake : : (drugging) of amphetamine or the much stronger methamphetamine, a model psychosis will follow. This means that even if you stop the drugging, the artificially induced Psychosis will now continue to build up by itself. : : Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act state and : : testify that various Federal Agencies of the U.S. government (such as : : the CIA, the Pentagon, etcetera) had a several decade-long covert : : research project to develop a technique or method by which an : : involuntary, unwitting innocent individual could be covertly manipulated to halucinate that he or she must carry out the assassination of a preselected target. The documents all state that this was to be
Re: [CTRL] CIA-Drugs Symposium Report
Thanks for a great job, Kris. This country needs a lot more activists of your caliber. RW - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:40 AM Subject: [CTRL] CIA-Drugs Symposium Report Well, it was brutal in Eugene. The conference by shear volume of information and time commitment was overwhelming and most left Saturday night in a dazed state, reflecting upon amazing tales and dealing with exhaustion. It was my first organizing of a conference, and some mistakes were made. It was too long and we needed more QA-maybe panel style, I was hoping to do that but the time factor wasn't there. And it would have been nicer of me to have Peter and Rodney speak earlier. They were great, but I didn't account for there senior years and as the conference was tiring for me, I would expect that is was tiring for them and elders deserve respect not long-duty. It was a nice progression of speakers and all the differing viewpoints was great also, but It sure was one heck of bite and dose of reality. The info and understaning was outstanding! It was videotaped and audio recording. This about ten hours worth. The confernce also included two films totaling three hours, plus two hour breaks the total conference was 14 hours. We recorded in Digital audio, so hopefull within a few days, (less than a week) we shall have the whole conference audio able to stream or download. Am still dealing with getting speakers and what-not home. More later. PS It was my first public speaking on the topic, didn't do too bad, but i will admit to some nervous mistatements. The biggest being calling steamships "iron ships," iron ships weren't made till later. Also I called WH Taft the first President of the Phillipines instead of the first civil colonial governor. Well ya'll get hear it , iffin ya want soon.. Om Peace K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Saaabaaaa ... Jewish Plan
'served' ... 'masters' ??? ... What - like a Menage a Trois? So WHO are these 'masters' - sounds VEERY sinister!!! Is Colleen the gal that was rambling that fairtayle stuff 'bout the "Masonic bible" ... ??? I could alm(o)st believe her Jean Dixon CIA payroll stuff ala 'predicting' assassinations ... so do tell ... i could become a convert ...??? - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan Colleen and I served the same masters. Truth is hell John - and cannot be covered. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nuclear Secrets Missing At Los Alamos
Los Alamos nuclear secrets missing - - - - - - - - - - - - By H. Josef Hebert The secret material was contained in hard drives and discs in containers in a vault in Los Alamos' most highly classified area, the so-called "X Division," where designers of nuclear weapons do their work. Sources said the empty containers were found inside the vault. Additional details about the nuclear material was not immediately available. "Officials are conducting an exhaustive search of computers, safes, containers and vaults and have interviewed all staff members who had access to the vault where the media (nuclear materials) were stored," the laboratory said in a news release. When the loss was discovered, the Energy Department's new security chief, retired Air Force Gen. Eugene Habiger, went to Los Alamos and directed an intensive search of but did not find the material, said officials who spoke on condition they would not be identified further. The possibility has not been ruled out that the material disappeared during the turmoil that surrounded the evacuation of the Los Alamos laboratory, when the facilities were threatened by the massive wild fire that destroyed much of the community of Los Alamos and parts of the lab itself. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Saaabaaaa ... Jewish Plan
In a message dated 6/12/00 7:10:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Colleen the gal that was rambling that fairtayle stuff 'bout the "Masonic bible" ... ??? Saba is Colleen IMHO. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mrs God WAS: UFO EVIDENCE:
I'd like to learn more about these 5 books... I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system either, but the Catholics kept five books that the KJ version eliminated. I ignore the politics of which books are better or more genuine, and just think they're quite beautiful. Also, I know what the standard definition of the Bride and Bridegroom are. I think most people do. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nuclear Secrets Missing At Los Alamos
Like this story - typical propaganda garbage. A fire was set deliberately, and we are told how wonderful Los Alamos was spared. This is a slow exterminationi process we are experiencing. Somebody wants that land out there for other purposes. Biggest lies since Blair and CIA reported lap top computers stolen. Somebody is stealing our secrets - but remember this, this is the property of the US Citizens of America, not the US Government and if nobody else does I will sue for recovery. And I will name the usual suspects in the suit. Anybody else would rather do this, do with my blessings. Class Action against the Clintons - for neutron bomb theft - These creeps better get used to the fact, that this belongs to the US Citizens first, for we are the government. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Shrunken Presidency : WHY?
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[CTRL] Secret Nuclear Weapons data Missing from Los Alamos Lab
Secret Nuclear Weapons Data Missing from Los Alamos Lab By JAMES RISEN WASHINGTON, June 12 -- Investigators at Los Alamos National Laboratory have discovered that computer hard drives containing nuclear weapons data and other highly sensitive material stored in a vault at the laboratory have disappeared, according to several United States Government officials. The hard drives were stored in locked containers inside a vault in the nuclear weapons division of the national laboratory. Officials reported that the hard drives were missing on June 1 after officials went to search for them following the forest fires in the area. The containers remained in the vault, but the hard drives were gone. The material, stored in the vault of the laboratory's X Division, where nuclear weapons are designed, contained what officials described as nuclear weapons data used by the government's Nuclear Emergency Search Team, or NEST, which responds to nuclear accidents and nuclear-related threats from terrorists. The material includes all the data on American nuclear weapons that the team needs to render nuclear devices safe in emergencies. In addition, the missing material included intelligence information concerning the Russian nuclear weapons program, law enforcement officials said. The Energy Department's new security czar, Eugene E. Habiger, conducted an intensive search and investigation at Los Alamos but did not find the data, officials said. He has written a secret report on the matter, and the F.B.I. has been brought in to assist with the investigation. Officials said they remained uncertain whether the data has been misplaced or stolen. The breach is so significant that Los Alamos is now planning to issue a public statement about the matter today. Officials said that the disappearance of the nuclear weapons data represents a major embarrassment for a laboratory that has already spent the past year under scrutiny for lax security in connection with the Wen Ho Lee case. Dr. Lee was a scientist at Los Alamos who was fired in March 1999 for security violations after being the subject of a counter-intelligence investigation that looked into evidence that China had stolen American nuclear secrets. Dr. Lee was never charged with espionage, but after he was dismissed, investigators accused him of downloading and copying vast amounts of secret nuclear weapons data from a secure computer at Los Alamos into an unclassified computer network and onto portable tapes. Dr. Lee was arrested last December on charges of mishandling classified material, and is now in jail awaiting trial. He is contesting the charges. The discovery of Dr. Lee's unauthorized downloads last April prompted Energy Secretary Bill Richardson to order a shutdown of the lab's computer systems, while mandating security training sessions for Los Alamos employees. Congress later passed legislation creating a new nuclear weapons agency within the Energy Department to oversee Los Alamos and the nation's other nuclear weapons laboratories. Gen. John A. Gordon of the Air Force, who has been serving as the deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency, has been nominated to head the new National Nuclear Security Administration. The new security breach is believed to have occurred long after Dr. Lee was dismissed, officials said. Energy Department officials said they notified the F.B.I. as soon as they discovered that the material was missing. But some law enforcement officials say that officials at the lab downplayed the fact that the data was missing from the vault, and assumed that the hard drives would turn up somewhere else in the lab. The officials are said to have assumed that the material was in use somewhere in the lab by Los Alamos scientists. But an extensive search has failed to turn up the data. Officials say that some employees have already been interviewed in connection with the disappearance, and some of them will be asked to take polygraph exams this week. The fact that the missing data included intelligence reports has led law enforcement officials to become skeptical that the material was simply misplaced. One senior energy department official stressed that it is too soon to determine if the disappearance is anything more than an internal foul-up. The fact that many lab employees dispersed around the country after the forest fire has complicated the investigation. "This could still be a situation where the hard drives could be misplaced or lost in the labs," the official said. "In my opinion it is premature to call this a security breach." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and
[CTRL] Fwd: Appeal to the conscience of the World - NATO depleted uranium
=== The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU APPEAL TO THE CONSCIENCE OF THE WORLD REGARDING THE USE OF DEPLETED URANIUM WEAPONS BY NATO FORCES ON THE TERRITORY OF FR OF YUGOSLAVIA Although anti-armour weapons containing depleted uranium undoubtedly produce severe consequences to human health and environment, they were used in the course of NATO military operations against FR of Yugoslavia. Additionaly, a recent documents and articles have revealed reasons to believe that depleted uranium might not have only been used in anti-armour shells, but also in larger projectiles. I - Established facts about the use of depleted uranium Since the beginning of hostilities, on March 24, 1999, officials of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) have, on many occasions, admitted that certain types of aircraft involved in the operation were using bullets made of depleted uranium (DU) against armoured units of the Yugoslav Army.[1] Depleted uranium is a by-product from the production of enriched fuel for nuclear reactors and weapons, and represents one of the largest categories of radioactive waste.[2] DU is highly toxic to humans both chemically as a heavy metal and radiologically as an alpha-particle emitter. That is why weapons made of this material are inhumane and have an indiscriminate effect.[3] The use of such weapons is contrary to international law regarding the rules and customs of war, the protection of civilian persons in time of war and the protection of environment.[4] United Nations Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights (the former Sub-Commisssion on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities), the main subsidiary body of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, had condemned the use of weaponry containing DU together with the use of other weapons of mass destruction and with indiscriminate effect.[5] By firing DU bullets during the most recent bombardments, NATO also disregarded the results of numerous expert analyses indicating that the use of DU shells during operation the Desert Storm in Kuwait and Southern Iraq was related to a specific illness, the so-called Gulf War Syndrome, afflicting probably more than 90.000 allied soldiers, as well as inflicting serious long-lasting damage to the health of the local population.[6] The most severe reported consequences to the health of contaminated persons were the initiation of new or promotion of existing cancers, as well as changes in the genetic material, the latter ones influencing the offspring.[7] It appears that official institutions of the United States of America have not seriously denied such reports.[8] Today, similar effects can be observed in Republic of Srpska, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, where DU weapons had been used by NATO during 1995. [9] The danger of the use of DU to human health and to the environment lies in the fact that DU burns when piercing the target, [10] releasing uranium-oxide, a radioactive aerosol, which contains alpha-particles. This aerosol is light, thus able to travel by air and be carried by wind over long distances, contaminating the air, water, agricultural areas, and, consequently, the food-chain. A particularly dangerous threat to health lies in the possibility that such particles are inhaled or ingested, in which case they could even penetrate tissues and enter the bloodstream, directly irradiating organs and blood. [11] II - The possibility that a new kind of DU weapons was used in FRY A number of recent documents and articles revealed reasons to believe that depleted uranium might not have only been used in anti-armour shells, but also in larger projectiles (e.g. cruise missiles or bombs). In that case, the use of weapons containing DU, although forbidden even against military targets, would not have been limited to Kosovo and Metohija only, the region which was the only battlefield where NATO was trying to neutralize Yugoslav armoured units. NATO airplanes bombed various structures throughout FRY. For example, continous attacks on industrial plants, buildings, bunkers and airports had been taking place in Belgrade. If the weapons used to destroy buildings, industrial plants, bridges, roads, bunkers, airports and other structures in FRY did contain DU, then much larger quantities of this material could have contaminated highly populated areas and thus ???pardized the health of numerous Yugoslav citizens. III Grounds The above stated possibility is based on the following documents and reports: 1. The article NATO using depleted uranium weapons, by Felicity Arbuthnot and Darran Gardner, published on April 4, 1999, in Sunday Herald Glasgow, Scotland: ...Both Tomahawk cruise missiles and munitions rounds used by American Warthog bombers (A-10) contain the radioactive waste material... 2. The statement of the Russian foreign minister, Mr. Igor Ivanov, of April 8, 1999, that ...NATO is using new types
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Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: John Lee wrote: Josh, Keep it coming! Every White and every other race needs to know how you jews think. No. They need to know how YOU think. Thanks for helping out. What surprises me is, you continue to promote you hatred of other races and especially Whites I don't hate other races at all. And I am white you moron. What I am not is a white supremacist. Don't you think someone has to be Top Dog (or Top D-g if you prefer)? Who should it be? FWP --- Machine Psychology: http://www.atoma.f2s.com/atomareport.html (file #10) --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mrs God was UFO EVIDENCE
Hi -
The extra books are "Apocryphal" books. I found a website on the King
James Version and it says this:
"Although the writings known as the Apocrypha are often not included in
Protestant Bibles, they were translated and included in the original King
James Bible of 1611, and they are offered here for use by interested readers."
It has the Apocryphal books I mention below as well as others that my Bible
doesn't have. Here's the site. The texts can be read in full.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/kjv.browse.html
This is what my Bible says: [Square brackets are my words]
"[These are] books which do not belong to the Hebrew Bible (although
several of them reflect a Hebrew or Aramaic origin) and which are part of the
Christian Canon ('deuterocanonical'). The Church [Catholic] regards these as
being inspired in the same way as the books of the Hebrew Bible."
It lists:
Judith
Tobit
The Book of Wisdom ('Wisdom of Solomon')
Ecclesiasticus ('Wisdom of Sirach') [not to be confused with Ecclesiastes]
Baruch
Daniel [chapters 13 and 14 only]
So, it was five books and two chapters only of a sixth book.
Samantha
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I'd like to learn more about these 5 books...
--
I don't subscribe to the Catholic belief system either, but the Catholics
kept five books that the KJ version eliminated. I ignore the politics of
which books are better or more genuine, and just think they're quite
beautiful. Also, I know what the standard definition of the Bride and
Bridegroom are. I think most people do.
Samantha
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Re: [CTRL] Mrs God was UFO EVIDENCE
In a message dated 6/12/00 9:05:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The extra books are "Apocryphal" books. Let's be real...the whole tome is "apocryphal". See http://www.truthbeknown.com/ Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Prophecy or Blueprint?
Prophecy or Blueprint? For thousands of years humanity has been fascinated by the study of "prophecy" or predictions of the future. Politically and in religious circles, it has always been believed that the one who can divine the future holds tremendous power, and even the "little people" have desired to know what the future would hold for them, whether they would be rich or poor, who they would marry, if they would live long and how they would die. Ascertaining the future has been a pursuit of millions around the globe, from extraordinary diviners and seers such as Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce to the more mundane astrologers who compose general forecasts for the newspapers. Thus, considering such widespread interest in the future, whenever any prognostication has been accurate, to whatever degree, mankind is held spellbound by the diviner or prediction itself. The Bible Such has been the case with the so-called Word of God, the Judeo-Christian bible. Ever since this tome was compiled, people have been attempting to associate its "predictions" or "prophecies" with events occurring in their own lifetimes. Particular individuals who are especially powerful and may find their way into history - such as politicians or noted religious figures - have often studied the Judeo-Christian bible in order to discern if there is any allusion to their own existence and deeds. Even those who do not follow the Western bible are so impressed by its supposed importance and purportedly accurate prophecy that they too will determine themselves as characters in the biblical play. As an example of this, Iraqi despot Sadam Hussein reportedly proudly declared himself to be King Nebuchadnezzar, thus confirming for biblical enthusiasts that the Persian Gulf affair of 1990 would be at least the preliminary to Armageddon if not the actual endtime battle itself. Obviously, even though the location was ideal and the characters involved seemed to be playing out biblical "prophecy," Armageddon did not occur. Nevertheless, curious humans continue to pore over the Judeo-Christian bible in order to ascertain the future, and when something happens that can in some way be construed to validate "predictions" from the Bible, its adherents cheer the incident as a great sign of the legitimacy of "God's Word" and the omniscience of its alleged author. In other words, it is the duty of the biblical prophecy scholar to take any global occurrence he can and make it fit as proof of the "fulfillment of prophecy," thus proving to himself and others that their "religion" and "holy scriptures" are accurate, correct and infallible. If believers are able to convince themselves that something has been "predicted" by their "sacred book," they can confirm that they hold the correct belief system, as opposed to their neighbors, who may not be of the same faith. Whenever such an event has been interpreted to conform to the "prophecies" found in so-called sacred scriptures, it proves to the believers and fanatics that their way is the only right one. Thus, it behooves these fanatics and proselytizers to interpret the world's affairs to agree with any perceived prognostication they may be able to find within their chosen book of faith. Every culture around the world has prophecies and predictions for the future. Each generation will take such a prognostication and determine that it has occurred or will occur within its lifetime. Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ have been "just around the corner" in every era since the current bible has existed. The supposed prophecies in Revelation, for example, have been constantly referred to and misinterpreted throughout the centuries. Unbeknownst to the masses, many a ruler has consulted Revelation, as well as the Book of Daniel, to discover whether he was mentioned in it. These leaders also wanted to figure out where their reign would go according to "God's Word." Few powerful potentates in the Western world have been without a biblical scholar who would check the Book and interpret its findings to apply to said ruler. It was the duty of just such an expert to find where in the Bible such a leader was referred to, and this obviously would lead to a great deal of skewing of the information found in the Bible. The questions relevant to us today are: Are biblical prophecies, such as the "Mark of the Beast," coming true today? Have they ever come true? Does this prove that the Bible is the omniscient "Word of God?" Well, yes and no, with the accent on "no". That is not to say that such a thing as the so-called Mark of the Beast is not a reality that is occurring today - the computer chip is real; however, such an occurrence is NOT a fulfillment of prophecy that proves to believers or nonbelievers that the Judeo-Christian bible is the accurate and infallible "Word of God." This NO also does not mean that certain happenings in the past have not somewhat concurred with statements found within the pages of the Bible.
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Pardon my ignorance, what program executes .art attachments? It comes up Not Scannable, that makes me nervous, when doing everything in one's power to protect oneself from a virus still doens't stop them. I just had my hard drive wiped out by a virus of unknown origin, despite updating McAfee regularly AND disabling Windows Scripting Host (executes .vbs attachments, including the Melissa and I Love You viruses). Thank goodness for personal file storage accounts on the Web. Tenorlove --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The President demonstrates what a Bush presidency would mean for the average American __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
I don't want to censor anybody. This list will NOT, however, be a discussion list for how bad the Jews are or for the dissemination of any racist diatribes. No one who has as their agenda the villification of any race, or group of people as a WHOLE for whatever there is as problems in society or in your own personal circle has any place here, putting out their ridiculous bullshit. As I have said before and will say again. There are Jews who do evil, there are blacks who do evil, there are gays who do evil, and guess what?, there are plenty of WHITES and plenty of ARYANS, and plenty of others on that list as well. Are SOME of them involved in the various conspiracies that we all are talking about? YES, without a doubt, but take your "the whole (insert preferred culprit race, or nationality, or religious group here) are evil and need to be stopped" crap and ram it. It has no place here. You wanna talk about the USS LIberty, then go ahead. But you might want to ask what the hell we were doing there interfering in the first place. You wanna talk about some of the evil Jewish men who have done evil bad things in history or who were involved in conspiracies, or are currently involved, then please do. But I have had enough of the villification of a whole group of people based on what some obscure Rabbi says sometime. Give us all a break. If you do decide to post something about real Jewish conspirators, while your at it why don't you round up all the names of good old white European Males who are involved in conspiracies to enslave ALL of us, regardless of creed, etc. I bet the list is a hell of a lot longer than the Jewish one. I don't want any villification of any entire group of people, that includes Jews, Blacks, Gays, Women, Whites, White Males, Aryans, or whatever. None of them are "all in on it". On Sun, 11 June 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote: I agree here but then why is it some insidious assholes like ADl and Morris Dees are permitted to put all White Christian Men virtually, all Moslems, and Militias, and anyone with whom they disagree, on a Hit List? Dare not call this conspiracy? No this is big time money. ADL and Dees thrive upon hatred and they are not to be challenged for their actions? Was John F. Kenned and little John John and the Princess of Wales and Dodi Fayed - were these people on Mossad list? Will Mossad murder Clinton physically not that they got him character wise - not that he had much character going in. Anti Semite? European Zionism wants all that oil. Day we go into solar energy and other means to survine on this planet, no more fighting between jews, christians, or moslems. All Quiet on the Eastern Front. But you say again we sit back and see our country torn apart, going through the sixty period again - our President to be elected told he will be murdered, while Diane Feinstein sits in wings waiting for blessed hand to be placed on shoulder for Vice President. Hey look to the Mayor out their in California and Jonestown - Feinstein's stepping stone - he alegiance to Russian Zionismand then dare to say Conspiracy. My family had friends on the Arizona and the USS Liberty - a relative.old family names like Carpenter and Welsh and - well all is well that ends well. Dare we not wonder why Klebold of Jewish Mafia family - dare we not question why he killed 12 christian children in fireor why he and his little friend wanted to blow up entire block killing over 200 kids and teachers? And JDO still maintains neo nazis did this? Buford Neo Nazi - really, had all his little literature neatly in place People have a right to discuss anything they wish. Where there is smoke there is fire. So Barney Frank is Jewish - and Janet Reno is of Danish descent - does that make all queers and lesbians of this extraction. You do not like what you begin to read delete it. Our Israelie friends tried to sink the Liberty and murder everybody on board to cover their crime - this ship was in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.OH remember Holocaust of 55 million people, but forget USS Liberty? I get sick of the holocaust shit. In particular when I visit Arlington Cemetary where friends are buried who died for their country and some of whom wre murdered, cause of death - killed by oh so friendly fire, and napalmed If Israel gets into any more trouble with their bullishness and admitting how they will murder anyone whom they feel a threat.well, now I see truth closer and closerJFK was threat to Russian Mafia Jewish Meyer Lansky.they said aim for the head - let tail alone. And we are told this is 2000 - and a President of the USA must die and we must have three Presidents in 10 yearsso, Diane Feinstein puts out word.like Madeline put out word she was wanted to run in Europe for President (nobody bit).do not think I would want this Feinstein sitting heart beat away
Re: [CTRL] CIA-Drugs Symposium Report
Personally can't wait to hear more Kris. It is so gratifying to see someone taking some positive action to get information out there and to hopefully effect change! Good job. On Sun, 11 June 2000, Kris Millegan wrote: Well, it was brutal in Eugene. The conference by shear volume of information and time commitment was overwhelming and most left Saturday night in a dazed state, reflecting upon amazing tales and dealing with exhaustion. It was my first organizing of a conference, and some mistakes were made. It was too long and we needed more QA-maybe panel style, I was hoping to do that but the time factor wasn't there. And it would have been nicer of me to have Peter and Rodney speak earlier. They were great, but I didn't account for there senior years and as the conference was tiring for me, I would expect that is was tiring for them and elders deserve respect not long-duty. It was a nice progression of speakers and all the differing viewpoints was great also, but It sure was one heck of bite and dose of reality. The info and understaning was outstanding! It was videotaped and audio recording. This about ten hours worth. The confernce also included two films totaling three hours, plus two hour breaks the total conference was 14 hours. We recorded in Digital audio, so hopefull within a few days, (less than a week) we shall have the whole conference audio able to stream or download. Am still dealing with getting speakers and what-not home. More later. PS It was my first public speaking on the topic, didn't do too bad, but i will admit to some nervous mistatements. The biggest being calling steamships "iron ships," iron ships weren't made till later. Also I called WH Taft the first President of the Phillipines instead of the first civil colonial governor. Well ya'll get hear it , iffin ya want soon.. Om Peace K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BREAKING...rapist in more deep doo doo [LosAlamosSecrets]
Officials said it is not clear if the computer drives were mislaid, stolen or accidentally destroyed, the LA TIMES is reporting on Tuesday... MORE... the hard drives contained 'nuclear weapons data used by the government's Nuclear Emergency Search Team and information on the Russian nuclear weapons program... MORE... The fact that the hard drives were missing was discovered on May 7. Los Alamos employees did not notify the Energy Dept in DC until June 1, reports the WASH POST... The suitcase that contained the drives was last used in a NEST exercise at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California during the first three days of May, but there is confusion about whether the hard drives were taken to Livermore at that time... MORE... http://www.drudgereport.com/ Bard When will it end, if ever? He's a Dictator who does what is wants. Why are the taxpayers spending all this money to keepCongress up and running; its corruption is manifested by its impotency. BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
With all due respect, is there a place here for detailed discussion of whether your statement below holds up to the scrutiny of intelligent and fair minded people? FWP On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: I don't want to censor anybody. This list will NOT, however, be a discussion list for how bad the Jews are or for the dissemination of any racist diatribes. No one who has as their agenda the villification of any race, or group of people as a WHOLE for whatever there is as problems in society or in your own personal circle has any place here, putting out their ridiculous bullshit. As I have said before and will say again. There are Jews who do evil, there are blacks who do evil, there are gays who do evil, and guess what?, there are plenty of WHITES and plenty of ARYANS, and plenty of others on that list as well. Are SOME of them involved in the various conspiracies that we all are talking about? YES, without a doubt, but take your "the whole (insert preferred culprit race, or nationality, or religious group here) are evil and need to be stopped" crap and ram it. It has no place here. You wanna talk about the USS LIberty, then go ahead. But you might want to ask what the hell we were doing there interfering in the first place. You wanna talk about some of the evil Jewish men who have done evil bad things in history or who were involved in conspiracies, or are currently involved, then please do. But I have had enough of the villification of a whole group of people based on what some obscure Rabbi says sometime. Give us all a break. If you do decide to post something about real Jewish conspirators, while your at it why don't you round up all the names of good old white European Males who are involved in conspiracies to enslave ALL of us, regardless of creed, etc. I bet the list is a hell of a lot longer than the Jewish one. I don't want any villification of any entire group of people, that includes Jews, Blacks, Gays, Women, Whites, White Males, Aryans, or whatever. None of them are "all in on it". On Sun, 11 June 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote: I agree here but then why is it some insidious assholes like ADl and Morris Dees are permitted to put all White Christian Men virtually, all Moslems, and Militias, and anyone with whom they disagree, on a Hit List? Dare not call this conspiracy? No this is big time money. ADL and Dees thrive upon hatred and they are not to be challenged for their actions? Was John F. Kenned and little John John and the Princess of Wales and Dodi Fayed - were these people on Mossad list? Will Mossad murder Clinton physically not that they got him character wise - not that he had much character going in. Anti Semite? European Zionism wants all that oil. Day we go into solar energy and other means to survine on this planet, no more fighting between jews, christians, or moslems. All Quiet on the Eastern Front. But you say again we sit back and see our country torn apart, going through the sixty period again - our President to be elected told he will be murdered, while Diane Feinstein sits in wings waiting for blessed hand to be placed on shoulder for Vice President. Hey look to the Mayor out their in California and Jonestown - Feinstein's stepping stone - he alegiance to Russian Zionismand then dare to say Conspiracy. My family had friends on the Arizona and the USS Liberty - a relative.old family names like Carpenter and Welsh and - well all is well that ends well. Dare we not wonder why Klebold of Jewish Mafia family - dare we not question why he killed 12 christian children in fireor why he and his little friend wanted to blow up entire block killing over 200 kids and teachers? And JDO still maintains neo nazis did this? Buford Neo Nazi - really, had all his little literature neatly in place People have a right to discuss anything they wish. Where there is smoke there is fire. So Barney Frank is Jewish - and Janet Reno is of Danish descent - does that make all queers and lesbians of this extraction. You do not like what you begin to read delete it. Our Israelie friends tried to sink the Liberty and murder everybody on board to cover their crime - this ship was in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.OH remember Holocaust of 55 million people, but forget USS Liberty? I get sick of the holocaust shit. In particular when I visit Arlington Cemetary where friends are buried who died for their country and some of whom wre murdered, cause of death - killed by oh so friendly fire, and napalmed If Israel gets into any more trouble with their bullishness and admitting how they will murder anyone whom they feel a threat.well, now I see truth closer and closerJFK was threat to Russian Mafia Jewish Meyer Lansky.they said aim for the head - let tail alone. And we are told this is 2000 - and a
[CTRL] A BILL TO KILL THE FED
HR 1148 IH 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1148 To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES March 17, 1999 Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Banking and Financial Services -- -- A BILL To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act'. SEC. 2. FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ABOLISHED. (a) IN GENERAL- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and each Federal reserve bank are hereby abolished. (b) REPEAL OF FEDERAL RESERVE ACT- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Federal Reserve Act is hereby repealed. (c) DISPOSITION OF AFFAIRS- (1) MANAGEMENT DURING DISSOLUTION PERIOD- During the 1-year period referred to in subsection (a), the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System-- (A) shall, for the sole purpose of winding up the affairs of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks-- (i) manage the employees of the Board and each such bank and provide for the payment of compensation and benefits of any such employee which accrue before the position of such employee is abolished; and (ii) manage the assets and liabilities of the Board and each such bank until such assets and liabilities are liquidated or assumed by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with this subsection; and (B) may take such other action as may be necessary, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, to wind up the affairs of the Board and the Federal reserve banks. (2) LIQUIDATION OF ASSETS- (A) IN GENERAL- The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall liquidate all assets of the Board and the Federal reserve banks in an orderly manner so as to achieve as expeditious a liquidation as may be practical while maximizing the return to the Treasury. (B) TRANSFER TO TREASURY- After satisfying all claims against the Board and any Federal reserve bank which are accepted by the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and redeeming the stock of such banks, the net proceeds of the liquidation under subparagraph (A) shall be transferred to the Secretary of the Treasury and deposited in the General Fund of the Treasury. (3) ASSUMPTION OF LIABILITIES- All outstanding liabilities of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks at the time such entities are abolished, including any liability for retirement and other benefits for former officers and employees of the Board or any such bank in accordance with employee retirement and benefit programs of the Board and any such bank, shall become the liability of the Secretary of the Treasury and shall be paid from amounts deposited in the general fund pursuant to paragraph (2) which are hereby appropriated for such purpose until all such liabilities are satisfied. (d) REPORT- At the end of the 18-month period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall submit a joint report to the Congress containing a detailed description of the actions taken to implement this Act and any actions or issues relating to such implementation that remain uncompleted or unresolved as of the date of the report. END A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Ecstasy Produced for 'Riot Control' in South Africa
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Subject: Ecstasy Produced for 'Riot Control' in South Africa by Poison Pen © South Africa. http://home.global.co.za/~jrad/Ecstasy1.htm According to Reuters, on June 9 1998 a former South African government scientist told South Africa's Truth Commission that in the final days of apartheid the government ordered its chemists to make one ton of ecstasy, for 'riot control'. The scientist, Dr Johan Koekemoer, former head of chemical and biological weapons research at the secret Delta G facility, told the commission that he did not approve of the project and did not trust the motives of those who asked him to make the ecstasy, saying "I did not believe ecstasy was a good incapacitant (sic) and I told my superiors that...ecstasy enhances interpersonal relationships. I told Dr Mijburgh [overall chief of Delta G] I did not want to kiss my enemy". He personally delivered the ecstasy, in powder form, to Mijburgh between February 1992 and January 1993. More details on the case from a correspondent in South Africa: "At the moment, there is an ongoing commission of inquiry being held into the activities of the secret service during the apartheid years. The last few days of the inquiry have lifted the lid on the activities of a clandestine government laboratory called the Roodeplaat Research Laboratory. Evidence presented by former lab employees at the commission of inquiry this week, reveal that the laboratory produced all sorts of exotic poisons for use against anti-apartheid activists. These included cyanide, thallium, botulism and paraquat - and, wait for it, ecstasy. According to evidence presented this week, between February 1992 and January 1993, no less than 912kg of Ecstasy `in pure crystalline form' was manufactured by the laboratory. Working on a tab dosage of say 125mgs, that's enough E for 73 million hits! The evidence being presented to the commission is that the E was going to be used to `incapacitate the enemy'. The shadowy figure behind the E production was the former head of the army special operations called Wouter Basson who is now facing criminal charges for being in possession of E a year or two back. The evidence presented in court was that he was having the E manufactured for `incapacitating the enemy', but the word is that he was was producing it for international distribution in order to make himself a whole lot of money. In fact, quite a bit of this E turned up last year amongst the local rave community. It came in brown capsules and was judged to be 'very good stuff'. The word from a journalist friend of mine who was been doing a lot of research into the activities of the former apartheid government, is that a lot of Basson's E found its way into the mouths of many of the army and police personnel who were keeping the regime going. Well, it wasn't long before the government capitulated and handed over the country to Mandela's ANC party. One wonders how much of an effect the E had in this change of heart! Anyway, the word is that Basson has a great deal of the original 912kg of ecstasy hidden away somewhere in South Africa. And if he manages to escape a prison sentence, this E will doubtless continue to find its way onto the local market. Since the quality of E here in South Africa has declined sharply this year (in line with trends in Europe and the UK) the local ravers are waiting with baited breath for the re-emergence of `Basson's Brownies' as they have come to be known.." Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Captured!!!! Exclusive Photo!!!!!!
Looks to me like he's just practicing safe sex. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Captured Exclusive Photo!! The President demonstrates what a Bush presidency would mean for the average American A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan
tenebroust, My answer will be enclosed with * ___*. See if you are able to follow. John Lee - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan I don't want to censor anybody. This list will NOT, however, be a discussion list for how bad the Jews are or for the dissemination of any racist diatribes. *What do you mean, you don't want to CENSOR anybody? Isn't that the whole meaning of this note? CENSORSHIP?* No one who has as their agenda the villification of any race, or group of people as a WHOLE for whatever there is as problems in society or in your own personal circle has any place here, putting out their ridiculous bullshit. *Now, what makes you think what jews say about their masters "Rabbis" is ridiculous bullshit? It is about time all races listen to these few very good Jews. They are attempting to tell us what Judaism is all about and you would CENSOR we few that have the balls to pass on what these good Jews say?* As I have said before and will say again. There are Jews who do evil, there are blacks who do evil, there are gays who do evil, and guess what?, there are plenty of WHITES and plenty of ARYANS, and plenty of others on that list as well. *Some of the most EVIL people on Earth are Kings and Queens that rule because they say they have a devine right because they are of the bloodline of David. And there was one in the 1200 or 1300 hundreds that gave all his land and subjects to the POPE so this King could be re-instated in the Church and go to heaven. That is pure EVIL to me. This give away also made a nullity of Magna Charta because it is not possible to break a legal contract which is what this King signed when he made the give away. Total Fear of Hell, I say, made a bastard out of this WHITE KING. And while I'm at it, what about King George III that hired mercinaries to whip the Americans during our Revolutionary War. Who was behind all this trouble during our revolution? Jews, who else. Read Mullins and his New History of The Jews. While you're at it, go to www.agtpress.com and do some more reading.* Are SOME of them involved in the various conspiracies that we all are talking about? YES, without a doubt, but take your "the whole (insert preferred culprit race, or nationality, or religious group here) are evil and need to be stopped" crap and ram it. It has no place here. You wanna talk about the USS LIberty, then go ahead. *You can't talk about THE USS LIBERTY without talking about Jews. It just is not possible. They manned the boats and flew the planes. They are the ones that killed our sailors. No excuse, only cover-up and it still goes on. Why were our planes recalled after they were launched? Documentation now says Jews controlled our government at the time. And, of course, we can't forget our country now operates on Jew Credit issued by the Jew owned Federal Reserve. The power of the purse is a mighty power indeed.* But you might want to ask what the hell we were doing there interfering in the first place. *Why were we there? We were monitering a sneak attack on Arab Countries by Israel and Israel did not want anyone to know what was happening.* You wanna talk about some of the evil Jewish men who have done evil bad things in history or who were involved in conspiracies, or are currently involved, then please do. But I have had enough of the villification of a whole group of people based on what some obscure Rabbi says sometime. Give us all a break. If you do decide to post something about real Jewish conspirators, while your at it why don't you round up all the names of good old white European Males who are involved in conspiracies to enslave ALL of us, regardless of creed, etc. *So, let's talk about the Committee of 300. They seem to be the ones behind our trouble now and seem to have been behind it for many years. By the way, the Queen of England sits at the head of this Committee of 300 the last I heard. Did you know, though, she has a bunch of Jew blood in her? Probably not.* *No, none of them are all in on it, but jews have taught most other races to use the same tools they use. The NAACP? Founded by the Jew Green or Greenberg, depending on the source of information you read. Who controlls our media? I do believe Jews do, the same as Hollywood.* I bet the list is a hell of a lot longer than the Jewish one. I don't want any villification of any entire group of people, that includes Jews, Blacks, Gays, Women, Whites, White Males, Aryans, or whatever. None of them are "all in on it". *Now, if you want to kick my ass off this list, be my guest. But remember, this list stopped operating for awhile for some reason. Maybe that's why the censorship now. Also, remember, no one will know anything about any problem unless it is discussed. Most other races are not smart enough to organize and do what they are doing. And of course, many
Re: [CTRL] Mrs God was UFO EVIDENCE
Lets be EXTRA REAL and examine the idiotic diatribes of poor old Ache Breakie cry heart 'author' Acarya S of the murky truthbeNOTknown.com is more authentically "Apocryphal" than the Apocrypha!!! The extra books are "Apocryphal" books. Let's be real...the whole tome is "apocryphal". See http://www.truthbeknown.com/ Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Adventure this Past Weekend
The JFK assassination is a central pivot point for many important historical events both before and since. After spending 6 months living in Dallas, no matter where I turn, I see connections! So I just tried to compress several converging things together this weekend. I went to the CIA-DRUGS SYMPOSIUM in Eugene this weekend as well as work. I did not go with a friend to Vancouver BC Canada, to the their Electric Vehicle Show, as originally planned. The CIA-Drugs Symposium, was to say the least, terrifying. I knew from the speaker list that this wasn't some Militant Antigovernment, Pro-Drug Legalization, Ex-Hippie, Communist gathering. There were certainly all of these elements present in the audience, but it wasn't like the 60's, there were intelligent, business types mixed in the crowd. (I haven't been to Eugene Downtown since 1984, and before that since the 1970s.) As you already know, there are ground swells of disenfranchised people who don't see a difference between Al Gore Jr, nor George W. Bush. Many are voting in the various Green Parties or for Ralph Nader. What I saw yesterday was a broad cross section of people from various economic and political areas coming together, in frustration. Now this conference was coincidental in many ways, as I had just nearly finished Terry Reed's 1995 book, "Compromised, Clinton, Bush and the CIA" [by Terry Reed and John Cummings, ISBN 1-883955-02-5] It was a huge undertaking, it is a big book, hundreds (681) of pages. Essentially, Terry Reed was a CIA operative, who worked in Mena, Arkansas. He grew up in a family of Southern Democrats with all of the patriotism in Missouri, went to Vietnam, served in Air Force Intelligence and returned home for the machine tool business. He learned to fly and expanded his machine tool operations. He was approached by the FBI for covert assignments integrated into his regular business schedule. The big one was spying on Toshiba, for selling advanced NC machine tools to the Russians, enabling them to make more silent Submarine propellers. Anyway, he ends up approached by the CIA full time as a Contractor during the early 1980s, to start business "cutouts," with a guy who later ends up being Oliver North. His machine tool operation, sales skills are put to use in manufacturing guns for the Contras from various illegal points in Arkansas. Meanwhile he's flying and training Contras at the secret base north of Mena at night. He meets Barry Seal. They establish a friendship that lasts until Barry is gunned down several years later. They have many friendships talks while flying and ferrying. Reed is shown how to fly covert, how to make air drops of guns and cash. He is told to make a few drops for Barry. He later finds out it's cocaine. He's upset. As this goes against his value system, he believed in helping the Contras with military aid, but not cocaine coming back into the US. He tries to justify this as a single isolated event. However during that time he is called upon to make huge cash air drops. He develops a deeper friendship with Barry Seal. They take a memorable LearJet ride to Panama to discuss a Mexico plan there. During the flights, Barry reveals that he is under a lot of legal problems and pressures from his DEA ties. He might have to go to jail. He worked as a contractor for several, often conflicting agencies, DEA, CIA, etc. He's gained weight by that time and seems tense. Terry asks questions. Barry reveals that he has an ace, a video showing the "Bush boys", Bush's sons, in a compromising situation. Arkansas politics becomes so corrupt that the operation is becoming compromised. Clinton's men try to muscle the CIA for more "business". The try to get contracts for their friends and associates. There's hundreds of millions of dollars floating around. Yet the State of Arkansas is still a couple hundred million in debt. Terry is then forced to spread out the weapons making to inferior Arkansas companies that the CIA did not intend. Bill Clinton even shows up at some of the meetings, including one meeting hidden inside a bunker surrounded by Military police where then CIA Director Bill Casey's lieutenant shows up to discuss a major change in operations. Governor Bill Clinton had heard about it and wanted to discourage a change that would move the whole operation to Mexico (because of the unreliable corruption of Arkansas) After an angry tirade from Clinton about "unfairness," Casey's lieutenant replies regarding specific financial losses and puts Clinton in his place, ending saying "You want your dream to come true don't you?". Clinton quivers and leaves the room. (Clinton's later presidency was apparently an "Agency" Deal in exchange for "renting" his state for Iran-Contra) Terry masterminded the incorporation and cutout companies in Mexico and had sent these thru to his handlers. They had approved and moved operations into Mexico. He was to run the front end of the Cutout
Re: [CTRL] The Jewish Plan Mr . lee is deleted
In a message dated 6/12/00 10:13:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Lee Mr Lee has been deleted from this list. If anyone doesn't care for that they may leave at anytime. I, personally, am to busy for his bull. If ya'll don't understand, well them's the cookies. This is my list. Mr. Lee can go speak his ignorance elsewhere, - under that name. Om K Notice that "advantages" were taken when I would be known to be busy. C'YA nazi. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
