Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Bush a Clone or Machine? Check it out....Washington Post
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/31/00 8:42:49 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend sent this to me and I'm sending it on to you. Heavy duty!!! I saw this the other day and believed it to be tongue-in-cheek. Rereading it - even more so. I think Weingarten was making fun of the conspiracy theorist. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CLuM Dualism (Solstice marked by sacrifice)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/31/00 2:55:52 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is he the God of the New Testament (the pepsi lite God)? Is he the New Age God of theological illiterates? Is he the all-forgiving God of the Roman Catholics? The financially needy God of the televangelists? The All-Seeing God of the worried small children? The space God JHVH-1, sent from another star to destroy the Earth? Is he the God who whispers to all the schitzophrenics? Who knows? Who cares? Johanness, that was a great rant. Okay, if I were going to generalize about the Roman Catholic God, all-forgiving wouldn't be the first thing to come to mind..maybe the God that requires cash payment to earn credits toward heaven.. yeah I think God is the chief science officer and CEO of the universe. He's an admirable guy in many respects, but he's busy creating inverted universes in the lab. He bent his ear toward us on earth a few times and all he heard was a bunch of high-pitched shrieking, so he decided to back off for a few eons to see if we would grow out of it. He assigned a few lab techs to watch over us to report on any potential nuclear explosions that might ripple his newest embryonic alternate universe. Other than that, we're on our own. :-) Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CLuM Dualism (Solstice marked by sacrifice)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/31/00 3:21:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And life will never go on without Jesus' Truth and you should be glad for that. It gives you that much more time to realize the error of your ways. Forget about Jesus? Yeah right. He is the only lifeline we have to a better future and the only way you will reach real happiness in life. Forsake your pitiful god, self, and embrace the real. Johannes, the Lord seeks to find you, just turn and recieve true life. Wait looking around . I'm confused. Is this the Come to Jeeezus List? I must have made a wrong cyber turn. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Democrats Shouldn't Worry About Bush--(Republicans Should...)
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Democrats Shouldn't Worry About Bush--(Republicans Should...) Date: Sunday, December 31, 2000 8:27 AM Democrats Shouldn't Worry About Bush (Republicans Should...) Devvy Kidd December 13, 2000 Tonight Mr. Gore gave his speech. Give the Devil his due: Mr. Gore gave an excellent and I think, genuine speech--for a change. Unfortunately, even after eight years as Vice President of the United States, Gore still hasn't learned our legal form of government and called America, incorrectly, a democracy, ad nauseam. Wb'ya's speech was boiler- plate and what gripped my gut is the fact that I will have to look at his stupid and constant smirk for the next four years. It's been bad enough viewing Clinton and his jutted chin with that disingenuous smirk plastered on his face for the past eight years. Now we've got a new flavor of smirk on a head that contains less intellectual matter than this nation deserves as it's President. Bush's speech tonight was full of the usual buzz words: "conciliatory," the silly "compassionate conservative," and "free" prescription pills for seniors (keep those old people medicated so they don't catch on to the scam!). Like Gore, Bush believes America should be governed by mob rule (democracy). Wb'ya mouthed a phony segment about Thomas Jefferson. What an insult to Jefferson. Following his reference to our great third president, Bush lauded "our democracy." Well, Republicans, you got what you ask for, now we'll see how this "lesser of two evils" works out for you. I already know how it will play out for our Republic. Like a cartoon character, we heard "bi-partisan" at least 15 times. Smirk, smirk, yuk, yuk..The one party system doing the two-party dance--strictly for public consumption and tragically, the party faithful will go right back to sleep. The grassroots Republicans in this country have got to wake up and recognize that your party has played you all for fools and let me give you one glaring example: when I ran for Congress, the well-meaning and very patriotic Republicans in my district were all excited about the "Contract with America". They pushed all the party faithful to watch the propaganda films put out by former House hot-shot, Newt Getrich. This guy is as evil as they come, but the party faithful either refuse to recognize this or they simply haven't had access to just how bad this guy ishere's a clue: On 11 . 13. 96, I spoke with the Washington, DC based Roll Call to confirm the following information which ran in the New American magazine, November 25th issue. The staff at Roll Call was very helpful in verifying the accuracy of this excerpt: "House Speaker New Gingrich has admitted that a hidden motive behind his 'Contract With America' two years ago was to control the large and stridently conservative freshman class that was expected to come into the house with the 1994 mid-term elections. 'Nobody fully understands this,' Gingrich explained in confidential tapes obtained by Roll Call, 'but if you think of the Contract with America, it was, in fact, a training implementation document masquerading as a public relations device...It was designed as a training implementation document for the freshmen when they arrived...It was guaranteed that from election day through April, early April, that the House Republican Party would have to behave in a deviant manner from what it would morally be expected to do.'" Roll Call said there was much more on these confidential tapes they managed to acquire and will be printing it in their newspaper. Got that, party faithful? You were taken for a ride. Hood-winked. Newt, a new world order lackey, got all the desperate folks that belong to the Republican Party worked into a dither of false hope with phony promises. How did Mr. Newt know enough in advance to plan this little "public relations device" even would be needed for the '94 "elections" and incoming freshmen? Because somebody whispered in his ear not to worry, there would be this "Republican revolution," and the millions would be neutralized. For Democrats who are crushed by use of the word 'Devil' above, Al Gore is a dangerous man. He has sold us out just as egregiously as Clinton, make no mistake about it. I would highly recommend that Democrats who are upset by this phony "election" outcome and my criticism of Red Al, that you get on the Internet and read the excellent investigative pieces on web sites such as worldnetdaily.com, newsmax.com; hit a search engine or two and type in Al Gore. You will discover that this guy has never cared a whit for the common man, "people of color," or any other American. He has always been red
Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/31/00 10:09:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Kris, that is what's wrong with you and so many here on the list. You don't believe in anything! What a sad, dismal life to have nothing to believe in. Kris wrote: eagle 1, Who said, I don't believe in anything. Matter-of-fact, I am a very strong believer in the spirit and believe in God and Jesus, but those beliefs shouldn't color one's views on how the world really works. I do not force my spiritual beliefs, they are my understandings and faith. And who are you to question them? Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones
-Caveat Lector- Who said I was despondent. I am not disheartened by my spiritual beliefs, there have always been people such as you that hide behind religiousity and have been useful pawns for the cryptocracy. You are right when I deny "the powers-that-be," Not God nor Christ, but those men who would play "god" with us all. What truth, the fact that the pentacostal movement was set-up by mainly by British intel with help from traitorious American families for pyschological control of a duped populace? You may believe what you will in religious matters, just do not expect me to agree with your statist religion. Do you know the truth? Pray tell. Please show me your research that refutes our living in a cryptocracy. I in know way condemned you but asked you to get your head out of your ass and help instead of carry water for the man. Om k In a message dated 12/31/00 10:25:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Kris, Your despondant diatribe is typical of one in denial... You deny the powers that be, and have shown yourself. That's fine with me. I could care less that you think that religious beliefs are myths and fairy tales. You only deceive yourself. One day, you will know the truth. However, I refuse to rail against you, as you have me. I at least give you the space to believe what you want to believe, tho' I may not agree. (You show some uneducated behavior for someone who *appears* to this list as one who IS "educated" and "wise" in the ways of the world). And that may be your total downfall, that you are more wise in the ways of the world. than in the way of faith and belief in God's Word. I've done my research, thank you. I just don't agree with yours. Jesus said, speaking to people who believed the same way you do... "You are from beneath; I am from above: You are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am He, you shall die in your sins." ~John 8:23-24 If you want to believe that is fable, hey go for it, and have a nice trip... but don't condemn me, because I refuse to agree with your nonsense. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones -Caveat Lector- eagle 1, Beliefs are for fairy tales and religions. Do the research and refute me. George W Bush is nothing more than a stooge for the cryptocracy. As was Clinton. Get you head out of your idealogical orifice and actually help our republic instead of helping the cryptocracy tear it down. MHO Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- Howdy Dupe, I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K In a message dated 12/31/00 10:23:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [NA] Predictions Aftermath for Election 2000: Right and Wrong
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." attributed to Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin December 31, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Predictions Aftermath for Election 2000: Right and Wrong This Network America e-wire was, as far as we know, the only place in the world that predicted IN WRITING and without hedging that the 2000 Presidential election would NOT be decided on election night but would drag on into the Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday following election day. We were a bit conservative on the resolution date which turned out to be December 12, 2000, one month and five days later. And this writer is NOT part of the Psychic Friends Network! ALL the below predictions were made based on Big Media clues coming over all 5 Big TV Networks and on this writers instincts. As promised, here is the analysis of the Election 2000 Predictions your writer put on the internet at about 6:18 A.M. PST (thats 9:18 AM EST) on November 7th, Election day 2000. Doubters can go to topica.com and then go to the Network America list to verify this. Topica is an independent list service that serves thousands of email lists, and it time stamps every message that is sent out by lists like Network America. Here is the word for word e-wire that was sent out on that election day morning with our comments and scoring of right or wrong the comments will be preceded by four stars () for easy reference. Here is the exact text, with comments, of that November 6th Network America e-wire, sent out on the morning of November 7, 2000 at 9:18 AM EST: Predictions Election Day 2000 I only have a few minutes to make my election day predictions, as its 9 AM on Election day as I begin to write this. Comment: I had spent most of the night sending out 4 other e-wires to catch up messages for the dates of November 3, 4 and 5. End of this comment, back to original text of the Nov. 6, 2000 prediction e-wire: This e-wire will carry only the predictions. After the election I will re-run these predictions with why Ive called things this way, and whether the predictions were right or wrong, and WHY they were either right or wrong. Comment: I thought this would be done on November 10 or so but then the election outcome dragged on until December 12th, and during those weeks I had some of the busiest days of my life collecting information, doing radio shows, answering e-mails and letters, and talking with people all over the country as we all tried to take advantage of the developing events to reach as many of our fellow Americans as possible with the message of verifiable elections for the future, rather than the easily rigged systems being partially exposed by the Big TV Media, after that same Big Media had protected those corrupt systems a generation. End of this comment, back to original text of the Nov. 6, 2000 prediction e-wire: Here are the predictions, culled from analyzing the cues, overt propaganda and covert propaganda of the Big TV Media over the last weeks and months. 1. W. Bush and Dick Cheney will be credited with winning the computerized count and will become President and Vice President. This Network America e-wire first predicted that Bush and Cheney would win in our August 2, 2000 e-wire. We never wavered from this BASED ON CLUES COMING OVER ALL 5 BIG TV NETWORKS. Later e-wires on this How Bush Will Win (Nov 19, 2000) and The Goring of Gore (Nov 30, 2000) were not perfectly accurate, but may be of interest to new readers. All archived post election e-wires can be most easily found at votefraud.org by going to the Whats Hot section and searching out what you want by month and then date. End of this comment, back to original text of the Nov. 6, 2000 prediction e-wire: 2. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be declared the winner in New York. Comment: This was an easy one. The whole Prostitute Press from the New York Times to CNN to NBC, etc. etc. let this shallow lightweight whos eyes warn that shes moving ever closer to being in need of a full blown exorcism get through an entire election without being subjected to one tough run of follow up questions, and without doing even one tough investigative series (ya know, the kind they loved to do on Richard Nixon or Spiro Agnew) on even one of the dozens of unindicted felonies in Hillary Clintons background all crying out for justice. Senator Elect Hillary Clinton is in your future AS PRESIDENT OF THE USA if we do not rid ourselves of the easily rigged computerized elections, and return to honest, verifiable hand counted ballots. (Incidentally, Rick Lazy-o was just the type of raw-ambition, sell out, me too demoncrat-Republican that makes alert Americans sick at the sight of the current day Republican Party.) End of this comment, back to original text of the Nov. 6, 2000 prediction e-wire: 3. The Republicans will keep the Senate. Comment: This was
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Okkarthing?: Burma Out wants a word with you.
Subj:Okkarthing?: Burma Out wants a word with you. Date: 12/31/00 6:05:18 PM Mountain Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Bunn) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^^\| ||\ | Opium EXPRESS | ||','''|'''\___, | __ | ||__|'__|___|| ['''(@)'(@)**|(@)(@) *'(@)* Of its kind : The most powerful communications group in existance. For those who have not had a formal introduction to the Burmese military junta. Please let me introduce you to one of its more delapidated minions. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The Okkarthing from Juntastein. The Okkarthing is really a monster of course, far bigger than only one man. Parts of its tentacles can often be seen crawling around the gutters of London and other major cities, threatening exiles and searching for what it calls business. In this case, the business is running vast loads of heroin and meth abroad from its secret factories in the jungle, slave labour, genocide of the Karen and other non Burmese nations, and day to day torture. The Okkarthing from Juntastein has no real power. It is told what to say by its masters in Rangoon. And if it ever gets out of line, as sometimes happens. It is treated to about 9 years in some of the worst conditions any prison anywhere can supply. But one must not feel sorry for it, for in the end it will fight what is a "rear guard action". However, there is no way the junta, the "Perfect Dictatorship" (NYTimes Nov 2000) will last for much longer. It's agents are falling in the field. It can't even compete in international sports tourneys where it meets nations such as Iran, who "know the score" and are hostile to major drug dealers. And as was shown when Burma withdrew from the FIFA World Cup in 2000, paying a fine of a mere $22,000 in the process, but losing more face than it can afford. Last year, as a Christmas treat for the Generals in Rangoon, we published a list of their agents on the Internet. (Sorry about all the military personnel arrests that followed chaps, but we are dealing with drug dealers huh?) However this year, our eyes have taken a rest and we are not able to script a similar pantomime until later in January 2001.. However, so as not to let the junta down, and as its got used to our little Christmas suprises. We decided to focus upon their military personnel in the UK. Here in the UK, we are about to "roll up" a few of its agents. 3 of whom are military personnel living here illegally. The Burmese military should not be in the UK, indeed it is an affront to the state that they remain. If I were you Okkarthing you murderous little tentacle you, I would pass this missive to Win and the rest of his gang as soon as possible With our very best wishes for their rapido exit. Roger Bunn CC Foreign Office Supporting a Genuine war upon heroin and human rights abuse. Music Industry Human Rights Association http://www.mihra.org/2k / [EMAIL PROTECTED] xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Claudia White~Main Line News~Human Civil Rights Campaign Internationale' http://www.angelfire.com/ut/Angel1 To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Pray for the Dine'h and traditional Hopi at Big Mountain, AZ, USA. http://members.xoom.com/senaa/HomePage.html xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Politech predictions for 2001
Thanks to everyone who submitted predictions! You'll find a representative sample of them at: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,40906,00.html Below I've attached everything (I hope) I received by the deadline. -Declan --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:44:36 -0500 From: Jonathan Zittrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the peering arrangements by which packets are neutrally passed from one private point to the next as they make their way from source to destination are up for grabs. We may see the beginnings of specialized information toll roads running parallel to the familiar Net we have now. Jon Zittrain Faculty Co-Director, Berkman Center for Internet Society at Harvard Law School Assistant Professor of Law http://cyber.law.harvard.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:27:24 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the "open content" concept is going to enter the public consciousness more fully this year. Currently, the concept is understood by only a handful of people online; by the end of the year, "open content" could be nearly as much a common buzzword as "open source" is now. Lawrence M. Sanger, Ph.D. Editor-in-Chief Nupedia: The Open Content Encyclopedia http://www.nupedia.com/ --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:27:42 -0600 From: Robert Waldrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Predictions for 2001 This is the year we really begin to leave people behind for the wolves to devour. As energy prices continue to increase, this will wreak havoc in poor neighborhoods where there is little or no discretionary income. Requests for emergency assistance for utilities and food will continue to increase (1999 saw an increase of 32% in requests for food assistance from Catholic Charities), but supplies will continue to decline (there was a 52% decline in donations for food assistance over the past year). In October of 2001, the first group of welfare recipients will run up against the "five year lifetime limit" on assistance, generally there is no plan in place to help these people. Homelessness will increase, and the number of children and families among the homeless will increase. Robert Waldrop Archbishop Oscar Romero Catholic Worker House, Oklahoma City 1524 NW 21st, Oklahoma City, 73106 http://www.justpeace.org --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:52:28 -0500 From: Peter Wayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Brutal legal war over fair use. 2) Lots of handwringing over Microsoft now that George Bush's Justice Department is running the show. Do they drop the case? Can they take the political heat? 3) More extreme examples of Carnivore. FBI asks to intercept emails and decide whether to deliver them or not. 4) Debate over how much the web is dominated by a few players. -- -- Tune to http://www.wayner.org/books/ffa/ for information on my book on Free Software. --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:54:43 +0800 From: Jacob Palme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intelligent search engines, engines which gives me good value for money answers with just what I am searching for. More and more new pharmaceptical drugs giving much more value for much more money. Microsoft merges with Sony and Disney to provide the ultimate entertainment provider. Increasing use of telecommunications gets more people who live and work in rural areas. -- Jacob Palme [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stockholm University and KTH) for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/jpalme/ --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:03:40 -0600 From: GriffJon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new year (and millennium, for that matter) will have some interesting advances in network and data privacy. I predict that the govenrments will investigate a large-scale PKI for citizen identification (We've seen some movement with the ACES program). At the same time, I expect that quantum cryptography (and brute-forcing) will greatly advance by years-end, bringing new bitlengths into decryption reach for a few entities. Jon Camfield GriffJon.com --- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:37:14 -0500 From: Mark Northern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PREDICTION Contribution "Convergence" will be the biggest buzzword for the year when we all expected at least some of our life to be a little bit like "Space Odyssey." As PC and server sales stagnate, real innovations in mobile broadband and PDA technology will take us closer to being continuously connected than ever. Something exponentially better than the current WAP and Bluetooth technology will emerge as the "best of breed" solution and revolutionize wireless communications. olution and revolutionize wireless communications. The "dot-com" shakeout will prove to be a good thing for the IT industry and the global economy. Everyone knew the "tech sector" was overvalued, but everyone watched the emperor
[CTRL] Letter to the editor - Deke Bones/ His Fraudulency II, George W Bush
-Caveat Lector- Well, cut it down to 250. We shall see. Om K - Deke Bones His Fraudulency II, George W Bush In 1878, RB Hayes stole the election from popular vote-winner, Democrat Samuel Tilden. Hayes was a member of DKE (Delta Kappa Epsilon) the oldest international secret fraternity of NE origin(1844). Founded as a Yale junior-class society, many moved on to the German-related senior-class secret society, Skull and Bones. SB founder Alphonso Taft serving as Attorney General in the Grant administration helped shape the 1877 commission which papered over the theft. Bonesmen Morrison Waite serving as Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court and Senator Wilhelm Evarts, Hayess Secretary of State and other brothers helped to influence the eventual results. An agreement whereby the Southern Democrats didn't contest the election for assurances to end the Reconstruction. These power of these two related fraternal organizations is stark in their influences effecting the course of our republic. Through members such as Theodore Roosevelt, WH Taft, Col. Stimson, Averill Harriman and others these secret fraternities have operated levers of power for generations. Gerald Ford is a member of this select group. GHW Poppy Bush and GW Bush are members of both secret clubs, whilst where did he come from vice-president Dan Quayle was just a Deke. Now we have, His Fraudulency II George W. Bush. The psychological damage to our participatory republic is calculated. The elite deviants have stole the election in broad-daylight, through hypocrisy, thuggery and chicanery; have put the idiot son in as President of this nation and there aint nothing us poor hoi polloi can do about it. We shall see. Kris Millegan 21071 Hwy 126 Noti, OR 541.935.2305 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] French mafia figure and George Bush link
Nouvel Observateur - French language weekly news magazine, pro Mitterrand, pro Jospin, Socialist, and major mag, read mostly by center left wing crowd, maybe more than half million print run [Summary/translation of article on French scandal figure and G.W. Bush] Dec 28, 2000 [Not a verbatim translation] Pierre FALCONE funded generously G. W. Bush electoral campaign. W's wife is a personal friend of Falcone's wife. Among the guests of Falcone's "Ranch" in Scottsdale (Arizona, "the world's biggest concentration of billionaires"), figure also Bill Gates, high ranking Chinese dignitaries, and French friends flown from Paris in his private jet. Since 1992, Mitterrand's son was part of them. Pierre Falcone is jailed in Paris since dec 1 and Mitterrand dec 22. END Falcone is linked to his father, same name, and the company BRENCO. Its into arms, oil, Angola, Russian connections, you name, it drugs in Burma..french political party pay offs etc If anyone has any info please inform, ds*
[CTRL] Mad Cow Disease.
-Caveat Lector- For those interested in 'Mad Cow Disease', this seems to be a good resource webpage http://www.mad-cow.org/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
So bus drivers and clerks should not be permitted to on their own to form a conspiracy group. Now take Pat Robertson = who thinks he is one of God's Bankers..boy the people of Scotland were on to him and when the mob, the bus drivers and clerks and "little people" from whom Pat Robertson has become very rich indeed, why Robertson makes Lyndon LaRouch look like a piker? God's Banker - and Vera Harper sends out garbage where bus driver, clerks, are not supposed to think for themselves and have no right to speak on conspiracies. Jesus Christ was a carpenter - today if he would return he would not be acceptable to the people who wrote the garbage Vera Harper, who to me is a lewd and lascivitious woman from judging from her writingsJesus was just a carpenter, literally and figuratively.Peter was just a fisherman - Luke was an unlicensed physician, more like a faith healer, and was it - who was the tax collector Render unto Ceasar - is this why the disciples carried no money and did not have any possessionstoday would they be street people or revolutionaries - or was Jesus the son of King Philip..royalty often sent their children away when 13 to avoid vendettas where entire lines wiped out = like in Psalm 109 - you get the whole bunch if you can, from father to son.like Job and his sons being murdered. None Dare Call this Conspiracy? So where is the origin of all conspiracies? Why the bible, of course.and the Kings and Queens knew how to get someone killed - when Shakespeare learned this great secret laws were passed for plays or works showing a King or Queen murdered were not permitted - and in those days the King James Bible was called the murderers bible...note Mark 7..in the old Dragnet Series, they always had the man's hand and hammer at the end - MARK 7, and badge 714. Bible is the book of lawKings and Queens executed using this book for the authoritytoday a militant group of assassins dating back to JFK murder by using bible as their authority..they meet at midnight at times, and execute judgment.they are the law unto themselves. Don't knock the jews? Why not? They wanted to be treated like anybody else? Joe Lieberman is CFR.King in waiting, but he lost. Jack Rubenstein Ruby murdered Oswald, but prior to this a black bordered ad was circulated in Dallas giving the appearance people hated JFK down there and his was not true.who put out this ad - a jew by the nam of Weissman? But consider Meyer Lansky, Jewish Mafia - the State of Israel did not want this man back - the jews are now being divided and torn apart.persecuted for 2,000 years for an execution they did not commit - for it was the mob, that got Jesus - so who is the mob today? I have no use for religion today - TV Preachers like Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts crying for money = once this poor man, told people there would be a "Message From Heaven in 77"..well his daughter Racheal as I recall was killed in 77 in a plane crash - leaving two beautiful children - and I mean beautifulhe cried, saying when he looked in the mirror to shave, the Devil was mocking him. He did build a University and shared the wealth...but Pat Robertson, God's Banker - the man who would be Pope - So here are a few conspiracies in the bible - now none of the characters involved had any influence in those days but the kings and queens and princes..so none of these people would dare get into conspiracies, for the fathers and mothers of all conspiracies would not permit this ..as Queen Elizabeth did to those who decided for themselvles when a Queen or King should live and when they should die, like a modern day propagandist as Jean Dixon who lost her divine status - laws and proclamatiions demands the life of anyone engaged in such dangerous activity as marking people for murder, by prophecy Dixon I always said scored 3 hits by prophehcy.but in certain secret societies - their underlings are told when someone is to be murdered - and all make fast buck. So here is short list of conspiracy..my favorite is the old King who was onto it all for he was part of the conspiracies"did I not tell you he would prophecy no good but evil to me". CIA Director when introducing a book once referred to the story of Darius in the biblein the night the King died. John Birch Society was the only group of which I know, who believed there was a conspiracy to murder JFK and this group was not about to be labeled a Patsy. So I still remember when Pat Robertson ran for President as a Holy Manand the Bush whackers revealed he had had a shotgun marriage - which then, was not so acceptable as it is now..nobody really gave a crap - but it made - well it made shot gun weddings sort of a status symbol in the Robertson camp. So bus drivers and clerks cannot be conspiracy mindedand should not participate in
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
-Caveat Lector- I must send this story - for my old friend who was former OSP Colonel and Chief of Police, who had me way back in 1969 send my material to California to a friend of his - my house had been broken into and he told me to be sure nobody entered again without my knowledge, to put a newspaper by the door and sprinkle flour on it Once when I visited his home, his wife was cleaning up flour by the door and I really paid little attention to it.so you see police and detectives do a lot of research for still the biggest conspiracies of all are in the bible and the bible is the origin of nearly every secret society in the world, from the Eagles Nest to the advent of an Adolph Hitler - who had as I recall, a home in the Eagles Nest... I still remembre the great eagle Challenger taking bite of Clinton much to his chock.for an eagle knows the difference between a Buzzards Nest and Eagles Nest.Long Live Challenger. Now I reproduce this story from which there is great knowledge for Daniel was a detective - Saba Only bus drivers and clerks, etc., are not supposed to be conspiracy minded? Accept all that is written without question? The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Bel (Apocrypha), chapter 1 "1": And king Astyages was gathered to his fathers, and Cyrus of Persia received his kingdom. "2": And Daniel conversed with the king, and was honoured above all his friends. "3": Now the Babylons had an idol, called Bel, and there were spent upon him every day twelve great measures of fine flour, and forty sheep, and six vessels of wine. "4": And the king worshipped it and went daily to adore it: but Daniel worshipped his own God. And the king said unto him, Why dost not thou worship Bel? "5": Who answered and said, Because I may not worship idols made with hands, but the living God, who hath created the heaven and the earth, and hath sovereignty over all flesh. "6": Then said the king unto him, Thinkest thou not that Bel is a living God? seest thou not how much he eateth and drinketh every day? "7": Then Daniel smiled, and said, O king, be not deceived: for this is but clay within, and brass without, and did never eat or drink any thing. "8": So the king was wroth, and called for his priests, and said unto them, If ye tell me not who this is that devoureth these expences, ye shall die. "9": But if ye can certify me that Bel devoureth them, then Daniel shall die: for he hath spoken blasphemy against Bel. And Daniel said unto the king, Let it be according to thy word. "10": Now the priests of Bel were threescore and ten, beside their wives and children. And the king went with Daniel into the temple of Bel. "11": So Bel's priests said, Lo, we go out: but thou, O king, set on the meat, and make ready the wine, and shut the door fast and seal it with thine own signet; "12": And to morrow when thou comest in, if thou findest not that Bel hath eaten up all, we will suffer death: or else Daniel, that speaketh falsely against us. "13": And they little regarded it: for under the table they had made a privy entrance, whereby they entered in continually, and consumed those things. "14": So when they were gone forth, the king set meats before Bel. Now Daniel had commanded his servants to bring ashes, and those they strewed throughout all the temple in the presence of the king alone: then went they out, and shut the door, and sealed it with the king's signet, and so departed. "15": Now in the night came the priests with their wives and children, as they were wont to do, and did eat and drinck up all. "16": In the morning betime the king arose, and Daniel with him. "17": And the king said, Daniel, are the seals whole? And he said, Yea, O king, they be whole. "18": And as soon as he had opened the dour, the king looked upon the table, and cried with a loud voice, Great art thou, O Bel, and with thee is no deceit at all. "19": Then laughed Daniel, and held the king that he should not go in, and said, Behold now the pavement, and mark well whose footsteps are these. "20": And the king said, I see the footsteps of men, women, and children. And then the king was angry, "21": And took the priests with their wives and children, who shewed him the privy doors, where they came in, and consumed such things as were upon the table. "22": Therefore the king slew them, and delivered Bel into Daniel's power, who destroyed him and his temple. "23": And in that same place there was a great dragon, which they of Babylon worshipped. "24": And the king said unto Daniel, Wilt thou also say that this is of brass? lo, he liveth, he eateth and drinketh; thou canst not say that he is no living god: therefore worship him. "25": Then said Daniel unto the king, I will worship the Lord my God: for he is the living God. "26": But give me leave, O king, and I shall slay this dragon without sword or staff. The king said, I give thee leave. "27": Then Daniel took pitch, and fat, and hair, and did
[CTRL] Nun hacked to death in church rampage
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001851641145319rtmo=VkmP4j Gxatmo=pg=/et/01/1/1/wnun01.html Nun hacked to death in church rampage By Richard Eden A NUN was hacked to death and 12 worshippers were injured yesterday when a group of men wielding machetes stormed a Roman Catholic cathedral in the Caribbean island of St Lucia. The attackers made their way to the altar in Castries Cathedral, in the former British colony's capital, where they set fire to the priest, Father Charles Gaillard, and injured an altar server. "It was like a scene from hell," said one of the worshippers, Cletus Springer, who was returning to his seat after receiving Holy Communion when he heard wailing and screams from the back of the church. Mr Springer, a local newspaper columnist, said: "I looked up and saw flames. The church was in flames. People were scampering here and there. I saw four men methodically going around setting people on fire, chopping people." More than 400 people were attending Mass, with many of them lined up in the aisles to receive Holy Communion, when the attackers entered the church. Worshippers pounced on one of the intruders and held him until police arrived, but three other men escaped. The motive for the attack was unclear. Mr Springer said the attackers appeared calm. He said: "You could say they were possessed the way they went about it, so methodically, purposefully, calmly setting people ablaze, chopping people." Police were questioning the man they arrested, Chris John, last night and were searching for three other suspects. The nun who died was named as Sister Mel. -- No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person. - Karl Hess A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CLuM Dualism (Solstice marked by sacrifice)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Eagle 1 wrote: A famous Governor of Oklahoma, "Alfalfa" Bill Murray once said, "It is better to say nothing and let others think that you are ignorant, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Murray may have said it, but he paraphrased the quote made famous by that other scion of Oklahoma, Will Rogers... And since you neglected to answer any of the points I raised below, we are left to presume your statement above means that you are keeping your mouth closed because you know you will be proven a fool if you do not... - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] CLuM Dualism (Solstice marked by sacrifice) -Caveat Lector- From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can step on anything and everything but a true Christian. It is people like you who aimlessly swing swords, beheading Christians, yet you whine about the God of the Bible who you claim murders babies... You poor, Biblically illiterate soul. And what is 'Biblically illiterate' by the statement that 'the God of the Bible...murders babies'? Seems to me the OT is full of such examples...either Yahweh doing the dirty work Himself (as in Sodom and Gomorrah -- where EVERYONE, including children and babies, were killed), or his 'Chosen People' do so via direct commandment from God (any number of existing communities being slaughtered as the Hebrews take over Canaan, etc.)...time and again, the Hebrew army is commanded to kill everyone and everything, not just their enemy army...they are commanded to go into the enemy city and kill all the women, elderly, children, infants, even all the animals... Anyone who claims otherwise is the one who is biblically illiterate... Also, it shows what hypocrites those who oppose abortion on supposed biblical principles are, since they claim that abortion is 'killing babies', and yet the OT is full of cases of Yahweh not only approving of, but actually demanding, that His 'Chosen People' do just that... June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ex-California Senator Alan Cranston, 86 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 00:54:45 -0800 ~ http://www.latimes.com/obituary/20001231/tCB00V0631.html Sunday, December 31, 2000 Ex-Sen. Alan Cranston Dies at 86 By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press Writer SAN FRANCISCO--Former Sen. Alan Cranston of California, a nuclear arms control activist who ended a 24 -year Senate career in 1993 under the cloud of the savings and loan industry scandal, died Sunday at 86. Cranston died at his home in Los Altos, said his son Kim, who said he found him slumped over a sink. The cause of death wasn't immediately known, though Cranston had been taking antibiotics and had recently had trouble maintaining his balance. After Cranston's retirement from Congress, the Democrat largely dropped out of publics view. But he continued to champion the cause of nuclear arms control, which had been the centerpiece of his political career and his 1984 campaign for president. In 1996, he entered the private-sector to work on nuclear disarmament, first as chairman of the Gorbachev Foundation USA and more recently as president of the Global Security Institute, both San-Francisco based think tanks. "Sen. Cranston's lifelong dedication to peace in the world and nuclear arms reduction have been inspirational to me," said Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, who took over Cranston's seat. "My heart goes out to his family." "He was a tireless worker for peace and disarmament and quite frankly, there's never been a more consistent voice in that arena," said State Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres. California's Democratic Gov. Gray Davis said in a statement: "Anyone who knew Alan will remember him with respect and affection." When Cranston announced in 1990 that he wouldn't seek a fifth Senate term, he cited his diagnosis of prostate cancer. However, at the time, his approval rating had plunged to a record low due to the savings and loan scandal and his relationship with Lincoln Savings Loan President Charles Keating, who had just been indicted on securities fraud charges. A Senate Ethics Committee investigation later led to a formal reprimand of Cranston and sanctions against four other senators, known as "The Keating Five," for intervening with federal regulators on Keating's behalf. Cranston, who received nearly $1.2 million in political funds from Keating, initially insisted he had been "politically stupid" but ethically correct to intervene. While he ultimately agreed to a finding that he had "engaged in an impermissible pattern of conduct in which fund raising and official activities were substantially linked in connection with Mr. Keating and Lincoln," he remained defiant. In his final response to the reprimand on the Senate floor in 1991, Cranston declared that his actions "were not fundamentally different from the actions of many other senators." The remark clouded the former majority whip and No. 2 Senate Democrat's relationship with his Senate colleagues, and Cranston's reputation as a champion of liberal activism and progressive reform never recovered from the scandal. In a 1996 interview, Cranston said: "I don't feel any need for redemption." "I'm satisfied with what I did in the Senate," he said. "I don't look back. I look forward." Cranston said in a 1985 speech that he chose to serve in the Senate "because there I can work on the issues of war and peace, and the environment, and justice, and opportunity." It's "where I kept the commitment I made in my 1968 campaign and get us out of the tragic war in Vietnam; where one act of mine helped keep us out of war in Angola ... one step I took, followed by many more, did much to prevent war in Angola, ... where I'm doing the utmost to dispel the threat of nuclear war that hangs over our children, darkening their days and filling their nights with fear," he said. Cranston was a journalist before he became involved in politics. He became a lobbyist for the Common Council for American unity, an organization opposing discrimination against the foreign born, then served two terms as California state controller before he was elected to the U.S. Senate on his second try in 1968. In 1977, he became assistant majority leader, or whip. In 1983, at the age of 68, Cranston announced his candidacy for president, declaring that his age would be an advantage because the American people "want wisdom, maturity, proven capability" in the White House. Cranston announced that ending the arms race would be the "paramount goal" of his campaign. But he never attracted significant support and withdrew from the race for the Democratic nomination, later won by Walter Mondale. Early in his Senate career, Cranston earned a reputation for uncanny skill in determining how senators would vote on an issue. He "runs around with a pencil and a computer -which is his mind -and keeps a
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Jesus Christ was a carpenter - today if he would return he would not be acceptable to the people who wrote the garbage Vera Harper, who to me is a lewd and lascivitious woman from judging from her writingsJesus was just a carpenter, literally and figuratively... The thing is, being a carpenter in Jesus' time was a vastly different profession, status-wise, than being a carpenter in modern times. Wood was a precious commodity in that region at that time. A carpenter in the middle-east 2000 years ago would be equivalent to a goldsmith...perhaps not aristocracy, but definitely a skilled workman in a precious substance, and as such would be considered a 'professional' living an upper middle-class lifestyle, and not as a lowly blue-collar lower-middle-class worker... ' ..Peter was just a fisherman Who apparently owned his own boat, and so was a private-businessman... again, something more than a lowly, blue-collar lower-middle-class workman - Luke was an unlicensed physician Documentation for this? In fact, documentation concerning ANY 'licensing' of physicians in those days? and was it - who was the tax collector Thomas, I believe... None Dare Call this Conspiracy? So where is the origin of all conspiracies? Why the bible, of course... Oh, I suspect that one could uncover a conspiracy or two or three in pre-biblical cultures such as ancient Egypt, Assyria, etc. In fact, human nature being what it is, I suspect that conspiracies existed amongst the ancient cave painters of the Stone Age... June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. **
[CTRL] Bush to pull US troops out of Balkans
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sunday- times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/12/31/stifgnusa02006.html December 31 2000 UNITED STATES Bush to pull US troops out of Balkans Tom Rhodes, New York IN A MOVE certain to upset his European allies, George W Bush plans to begin withdrawing American peacekeepers from the Balkans shortly after he moves into the White House next month. Senior advisers to the Republican president-elect have told The Sunday Times that America will have removed all 10,000 of its ground troops from Bosnia and Kosovo within four years, leaving only logistical and intelligence teams behind. John Hulsman, a conservative analyst tapped as a Balkans adviser for the new administration, said Bush was concerned about "imperial overstretch" - a buzzword within the new national security team for America's involvement in "nation building" abroad during the presidency of Bill Clinton. "There will be a philosophical sea change when Bush is in the White House," Hulsman said. "As soon as he arrives, there will be a drawing down of American forces and after four years there will be no American ground troops in the Balkans." Hulsman, who works at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank in Washington, advised the president-elect on Balkans policy during his campaign for the White House. He said there was growing scepticism inside the Bush camp about humanitarian missions that were not in the American national interest. Richard Perle, a former assistant defence secretary under President Ronald Reagan and an even more senior adviser to Bush, said questions were being asked about America's true role in the region. Perle said incoming members of the national security team, including Condoleezza Rice, General Colin Powell, the next secretary of state, and Donald Rumsfeld, appointed last week as defence secretary, were unhappy with some of the tasks being given to fighting troops in the field. Some in the 82nd Airborne, the crack parachute division, for example, had been acting as kindergarten escorts and social workers. "I think they will look at what the soldiers are spending their time doing and whether that is appropriate for American troops," he said. Perle insisted any pullout would not take place without consultation with allies. He speculated that German forces might shoulder the brunt of future regional responsibilities. The first hint of a withdrawal came in October, shortly before the American election, when Rice spoke of a "new division of labour" in the Balkans, requiring Europeans to "step up to their responsibilities". Lord Robertson, the Nato secretary-general, telephoned the Bush camp shortly afterwards and said he had been assured by the Republican's advisers that no such move was afoot. Powell said after his nomination earlier this month, however, that he would undertake a review of all deployments soon after Bush's inauguration on January 20. "We're going to consult to see if we can find ways that are less of a burden," he said of the missions in Kosovo and Bosnia. "We're not cutting and running." For all the talk of consultation and reviews, plans are already being drafted to begin part of the withdrawal shortly after Bush enters the White House. Hulsman said the first of the 5,500 troops in Kosovo and 4,500 in Bosnia could be brought home within months in what would be a symbolic change of policy in Washington. Under one proposal, the new administration would inform Nato at the end of next month that its eventual goal was to turn over entire responsibility for peacekeeping troops to its European allies. America would agree to provide continued but limited logistical and intelligence assistance to the Nato mission in the Balkans. The proposal can only add to fears among allies already anxious about the implications of a Bush presidency for European security. Concerns centre on the president-elect's determination to build a "son of star wars" missile defence system. Bush has said he wants a system that would include America's allies. Britain and other countries are worried it could have a destabilising effect by violating the 1972 US-Soviet anti-ballistic missile treaty, under which both sides agreed limits to defensive shields. Bush's resolve to press ahead with the project has been confirmed by the appointment of Rumsfeld, who oversaw a commission two years ago that concluded that rogue nations could threaten America with ballistic missiles sooner than analysts predicted. The Foreign Office yesterday declined to comment on any likely changes in American Balkan policy. One British diplomat in the region warned, however, that even if Bush wanted a significant drawdown of troops it would be difficult to win the approval of his Nato partners. "We've always thought the American role is essential," he said. In France opinion on American involvement has always been more divided, with many military officers opposed to Washington's dominant influence in peacekeeping.
[CTRL] Scientists study slave settlement
-Caveat Lector- http://augustachronicle.com/stories/062999/met_MNS- 4726.001.shtml Scientists study slave settlement Archaeologists' dig at Cumberland Island site unearths significant part of Georgia history Web posted Jun. 29 at 12:18 AM By Gordon Jackson Morris News Service CUMBERLAND ISLAND, Ga. -- A group of 27 chimneys jutting from the ground like monoliths are the only visible evidence of a slave community that once thrived on Cumberland Island. As many as 300 slaves lived in the community until they were freed at the end of the Civil War, but much of what is known about the life of blacks on the island has not been documented. An archaeological dig in the past six weeks at the site called The Chimneys, however, has revealed a wealth of information to researchers. In fact, archaeologists say the site is one of the most significant and well-preserved slave settlements anywhere. ``It's very unusual to find a site in this good of a state,'' said David Brewer, an archaeologist with the National Park Service. ``This is one of the best unexcavated sites in the world.'' The main goal for the archaeologists is preserving the chimneys, but they had to dig first to check out the land surrounding the structures. The property has been held by private landowners for years and has not been disturbed by any development. It has been under the protection of the National Park Service since the island was declared a national seashore in 1972. ``You just don't find a site like this anymore,'' said John Cornelison Jr., a park service archaeologist. Despite only digging around five of the 27 chimneys because of limited funding, the project has answered many questions about life on the island among slaves, researchers said. For instance, the archaeologists uncovered evidence that the slaves were segregated by marital status and gender - with married couples living in one part of the village, single men in another area and single women in another. The dig also revealed the slaves' quarters were segregated by job skills as well, with overseers living in different areas from laborers or craftsmen. A large number of gun flints found at the site indicate the slaves had weapons so they could hunt for food on the island, Mr. Cornelison said. A large number of buttons from military uniforms found show the slaves wore surplus uniforms as clothing, he said. Researchers could also determine much about life in the village by what they didn't find. ``We found no manacles or anything else ,'' Mr. Cornelison said. ``We generally believe Robert Stafford treated his slaves pretty good, as good as you can treat somebody you are holding against their will.'' Of course, there weren't many places for slaves to go on the island and they had little or no contact with the outside world, Mr. Cornelison said. The researchers also have been able to dispel a rumor that Mr. Stafford, who grew cotton on the island, burned down the slaves' cabins in anger after the Civil War ended. There is no evidence of ashes indicating the cabins had been burned. Mr. Stafford was born on the island in 1790 and lived there until he died in 1877. He inherited the land from his father, Thomas Stafford, who settled on the island prior to 1783, said John Mitchell, museum curator for the Cumberland Island National Seashore Museum. There is no reference to the area being called The Chimneys until after the island was designated a national seashore, which indicates the name was likely coined by the park service, Mr. Mitchell said. Other items found at the site include pipe stems, hand-painted marbles, bottles, ornate pottery shards, an 1819 half dollar, fishing weights, a metal lice comb, a broach and an earring. -- Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. - Thomas Paine This signature was made by SigChanger. You can find SigChanger at: http://huizen.dds.nl/~phranc/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Pentecostal Movement Iinquiry
I would like information on what Kris said, below. I understand the PM to have started with Aimee Semple MacPherson in Topeka around l900 and to spread to Azuza Street (LA I believe) and from there to the nation. I don't think MacPherson was British intel: What truth, the fact that the pentacostal movement was set-up by mainly byBritish intel with help from traitorious American families for pyschologicalcontrol of a duped populace?
[CTRL] Fwd: Family Harvest Gate
Remember Heaven's Gate and Halle Bopp - always believed those people were murdered, and I have their tapes... So I ran across the above and it was a joltwas looking for I Am That I Am, which is Royal Arch Mason pass words - the Burning Bush, for boy we do have another name in the bible in a sense - anyway, this is the same art work for the old Halle Bopp Heavens Gate site. This is interesting site...pulled it up using I Am That I Am as search phrase for little research. Check it out if interested - boy religion and conspiracy do go hand in hand...no insult meant to true believers, but had I had a serious religious upbringing, I could not have seen the truth in what I read..and Christ was right - the truth should set you free and this must be why he spoke in parables? So Happy New Year again.and this is interesting stuff but to figure out what is behind it, well often you end up somewhere in land of shadows and cabals. Saba http://listen.to/spiritual.abuse
[CTRL] {NewsUCanUse} VIN: -- blocking cheaper drugs
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FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
Corporate toadies to the last
Ever mindful of the wishes of their corporate backers, the Clinton
administration first balked at the bill proposed by Sen. James Jeffords,
R-Vt., to allow the re-importation of U.S.-manufactured pharmaceuticals
which sell at lower prices overseas.
(U.S. prices for popular arthritis, depression, and cholesterol-lowering
medications are often 30 to 50 percent higher than in other nations -- even
after factoring in the cost of shipment.)
But the idea of allowing pharmacies to re-import the less expensive drugs
won bipartisan congressional approval when Democrats and Republicans proved
unable to agree on any more comprehensive scheme to federally subsidize
prescription drugs, particularly for the elderly (an expenditure which, for
the record, the Congress has no constitutional authority whatever.)
Faced with widespread popular support for the re-import measure,
President Clinton finally signed it, praising GOP congressional leaders at
the time for agreeing "in the face of the drug companies' opposition, to
give Americans access to prescription drugs that are cheaper in other
countries."
But implementation procedures contained a loophole -- they were subject
to an OK from the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
And guess what? Tuesday, outgoing HHS Secretary Donna Shalala -- think
there's any chance of landing some hefty new drug research grants down at
the U of Miami next year, Madame Secretary? -- again placed the ongoing
pharmaceutical industry protection racket above the ability of America's
poor and elderly to buy affordable prescription medicines, announcing she
would not even request the $23 million appropriated to start the program
because "Flaws and loopholes ... make it impossible for me to demonstrate
that it is safe and cost effective."
Humbug. If it's not cost-effective, pharmacies simply won't re-import.
But how could it not be cost-effective to re-import drugs which sell at
half price overseas? And as for safety -- does the Secretary imply she's
allowing U.S. manufacturers to ship out unsafe drugs to our foreign friends
and allies?
The great Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises -- whose English was far
from perfect in the early years after he immigrated here -- once halted a
discussion between Murray Rothbard and others of his New York students to
ask "What is this word 'loophole' you keep using?" When the young Americans
had finished explaining the colloquialism, von Mises sagely observed, "Ah.
So you call it a 'loophole' when the government still allows you some
freedom."
A theoretical objection can be raised that by re-importing these drugs,
Americans to some extent embrace the anti-free-market price caps
imposed by more or less fascist foreign governments. But no one forces
the drug firms to sell overseas under those conditions -- if they're not
making a profit, they can refuse to export there, in the first place.
All forms of competition work to the advantage of the consumer --
including the breakdown of arbitrary price supports imposed by the
government's monopoly on armed force through arbitrary bans on
"re-importation."
The real question is why millions of dollars need to be spent simply to
tear down these protectionist tariff walls, allowing U.S. pharmacies to
re-import any drug which meets their own safety standards. Clearly, the
extra tens of millions are for hundreds of new inspectors to make sure
we're not allowed too much commercial freedom ... when the real
solution would be to declare all pharmaceutical imports duty free on
humanitarian grounds, from penicillin to Prozac, from coca leaves to Indian
hemp.
Thank goodness this current batch of corporate toadies -- any more Tyson
Chicken executives in need of pardons, Mr. President? Any more convicted
cocaine smugglers to whom you'd like to restore the right to carry a
handgun? -- will be gone inside a month. Perhaps Mr. Bush's nominees can do
a little better.
Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas
Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895-8757.) His
book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement,
[CTRL] No crazier than the Fed
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/etcetera/101600/currency.sml Funny Money A whole new meaning for 'local' currency Monday, October 16, 2000 By Michael Y. Park NEW YORK The money Paul Glover uses at the local hardware store in Ithaca, N.Y., doesn't have any dead presidents on it. In Ithaca we trust: Ithaca Hours are used only in upstate New York. Instead, the graphic artist hands over a couple of odd-looking bills in maize yellow and acid green currency he made himself. And instead of calling the police, the clerk behind the register takes the money and hands back strange bills of his own, this time in pumpkin orange and powder blue. In fact, Glover might actually spend his whole day without touching a U.S. Federal Reserve note, those ratty greenbacks that are so boring it's a notable cultural event when Ben Franklin gets a face-lift. The money he uses is called Ithaca Hours, and it's the most successful example of a trend that's been spreading across the country over the past nine years: local currencies. From Bread to Greenbacks Since Ithaca Hours started up in 1991 the first attempt at a local currency since 1972 more than 60 local money systems have sprouted up across the country, almost all circumscribed to a specific region and helped along with the assistance of local merchants, consumers and chambers of commerce. In Brooklyn, N.Y.,they're Greenbacks; in New Orleans, it's Mo Money; in Berkeley, Calif., it'sBread. Proponents of local currencies see them as an ideal way to keep money and people in the area. Ithaca Hours, for example, must be used in a 20-mileradius of Ithaca, with the idea that whoever uses them will support neighborhood shops instead of, say, New York City merchants. And it's perfectly legal to print your own money as long as it doesn't resemble U.S. dollars and can be exchanged with regular dollars. "By using local currencies, you're saying, 'I support local businesses,'" Susan Witt, executive director of the E.F. Schumacher Society, said. "The consumer is taking responsibility for his community." Mo money, mo problems? This currency is traded in New Orleans. The E.F. Schumacher Society is a Great Barrington, Mass.-based non-profit organization that pushes for local currencies and ecologically based community development. Glover, who had studied city management and economics, started the Hours system when he noticed the devastating effects of the 1990-1991 recession on central New York. "All my friends had a lot of skills that were not being utilized by the formal economy, and they had time that they would have been pleased to translate into cash," he said. So Glover came up with the idea of a money based not on precious metals or the U.S. economy but on labor, or work-hours,with one hour of work being equivalent to $10. Local businesses quickly jumped on board, and by the end of the decade, 460 area businesses accepted and dispensed Ithaca Hours,thousands of users put them in their wallets and purses and millions of dollars worth of Hours had traded hands, according to Glover. Psychological Boost or Real Benefit? The American Liberty Dollar: back to the gold standard. Economist Ralph C. Bryant, senior fellow in economics at the Brookings Institute, wasn't sure it was more than a psychological boost. "I think these ideas are not helpful to the people there and are an illusion," he said. "We dont have S H green stamps anymore, do we?" Critics notwithstanding, the Hour model has inspired more than the Ithacans.All the way in Honolulu, Hawaii, retired architect Bernard von NotHaus has created a silver- and gold-backed currency that he hopes may eventually lead to the repeal of the Federal Reserve system. His group, of course, is called the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and Internal Revenue Code, or NORFED. He sees the NORFED American Liberty Dollar backed by a cache of gold and silver as the kind of currency the Founding Fathers intended the nation to use, and as something that will strengthen the economy not just of small regions but the entire United States. The AL Dollars are to be traded at a one-to-one exchange rate with the "dreaded Federal Reserve note." The U.S. took its currency entirely off the gold standard in 1971. Since then, von NotHaus said, the country might have gotten weaker, but if anything proves that America and freedom have a chance in the future, it's local currencies and the right of people to make their own money. "Liberty knows no bounds," he said. "And liberty's popping up all over the place in the form of American Liberty Dollars!" -- I have never run into anyone who hated guns if they had ever shot one. --Pat Cleaver I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson (1800) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange
Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones
-Caveat Lector- What a sad, dismal life to have nothing to believe in. Everybody believes in something. I believe in doubt. I keep track of how many times I believe something and it turns out later it was the right thing to do. I also keep track of how many times I doubt something and it turns out later that was the right thing to do. I compare the two. Doubt wins hands down. The desire to believe is part of our basic human nature. It saves us from having to think for ourselves. But when we do think for ourselves, we are far more likely to arrive at the truth. This is work, often hard work, and sometimes very unpleasant. The truth is pretty scary sometimes. And, yes, sometimes it is sad and dismal. But it is what it is and must be dealt with as such. The alternative is delusion. Clinging to delusions, especially to willful self delusions, is an anti-survival strategy. This world can be a truly nasty place sometimes. Sometimes the nastiest parts appear on the surface to be nothing but sweetness and light. Don't believe it. Look beneath the surface. Not every sheepskin holds a sheep. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: There'll Be No Civil Liberties At The International Criminal Court
-Caveat Lector- There'll Be No Civil Liberties At The International Criminal Court By Ted Galen Carpenter http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-27-00.html 12-31-00 Ted Galen Carpenter is vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. He is the editor of "NATO's Empty Victory: A Postmortem on the Balkan War" and the author of "Beyond NATO: Staying Out of Europe's Wars." Proponents of the new International Criminal Court are again pressuring the United States to join that institution as it is about to become operational. The latest salvo is an editorial in the Washington Post urging the lame-duck Clinton administration to sign the treaty establishing the Court before the signature- deadline passes on Dec. 31. The New York Times editorial page has said the same and urged the administration to forward the document to the Senate for ratification. The Post pressed the idea that America must take steps to support the Court -symbolically or practically- or risk offending other nations. Typically, the Times focused on rebutting Pentagon fears that, if the United States becomes a member, American military personnel might someday be hauled before the Court and accused of war crimes. Dismissing such concerns as misplaced, the Times (along with most ICC supporters) pretends as though that is the only objection to the Court. In reality, the Pentagon's fears are the least of the problems with the ICC. The Criminal Court is a horrific institution from the standpoint of civil liberties. It would make a mockery of even the most basic due process guarantees. We have already had a glimpse of the probable abuses from the operation of the ICC's predecessors, the special war crimes tribunals in the Balkans and Rwanda. Rights that Americans take for granted would be greatly diluted or absent entirely in ICC trials. For example, there is no right to a trial by an impartial jury. A verdict is rendered by majority vote of a panel of appointed judges. Thus, a 3-2 vote could doom a defendant to a lengthy prison term - in some cases even a life term. If that were not bad enough, some - perhaps all- of the judges on a panel might come from countries where there is no concept of an independent judiciary or a tradition of fair trials. A defendant could even face jurists who were officials in regimes that were openly biased against his government or political movement. It gets worse. There is no protection against double jeopardy. If a defendant is acquitted of charges, the prosecutor's office can appeal the verdict to an appellate body within the ICC. A hapless defendant could be subjected to prosecution for the same offense again, and again, and again. Nor is there any guarantee of either a speedy or a public trial. The Court could hold indicted individuals for months or even years before judicial proceedings get underway. The Yugoslavia war crimes tribunal has held sessions behind closed doors - supposedly to protect the privacy of alleged victims of war crimes. Such nonpublic sessions underscore perhaps the worst feature of the ICC. The right of defendants to confront their accusers is highly conditional. The Court would have the authority to conceal the identity of witnesses whenever it deemed that step to be appropriate. That is an especially pernicious dilution of due process standards. Frequently, the ability to rebut testimony depends on knowledge of the witness' identity and background. Such knowledge may yield important clues about possible personal malice, a history of prevarication, or a hidden financial or ideological agenda. Without that knowledge, cross-examination must be conducted in an informational vacuum, and a defense attorney operates at an impossible disadvantage. Most opponents of the Criminal Court in this country stress that we should not want to risk having Americans tried before such a tribunal. That is a valid but secondary point. People who value civil liberties and due process of law should not want anyone tried before such a tribunal. -- We have passed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
-Caveat Lector- human nature being what it is, I suspect that conspiracies existed amongst the ancient cave painters of the Stone Age... It's as natural as breathing. Everybody does it. Whe we spell in front of our kids, we are conspiring. When we convince our siblings to distract mommy while we raid the cookie jar, we are conspiring. It's part of life. Deal with it. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE Bible is subject to many interpretations
Little Sirhan thought he was an IMAM, spoon fed data to make him believe he knew the deep and secret meanings of the bible. Eagle 1 - do not write me again - if you want to write me, do so on list. I am not interested in religion as it is used today - by the likes of Sirhan or a Manson or the Mafia.or secret societies to order executions. I will tell you his much - my ancesty dates to the bible and can you prove your pedigree? So do not hand me that religious crap - the bible is a family tree of those who claim to be ordained by God to rule. This is America - and most people do not care about religion.they do not appove or disapproveso take your bible and woship my ancestors if you wish, for I an prove my pedigree. Can you prove yours? Saba Do not write me again. Warning #1.Anything to say to me write on list but I intend not to read your mail furthergo pray on somebody else - my ancestors were Kings and Queen and if you want to bow down to them on all fours, I do not care...Chinese also believe in ancestor worship. I write offline I'm not using up all my posts for the day just yet. You thumb your nose at the fact that Jesus spoke in parables??? The answer is in your Bible... oh wise one. The witness of Jesus' words by Matthew, Mark and John, "And the disciples came unto Him and said unto Him, Why speakest you to them in parables? He answered unto them, 'Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them, it is not given." ~Matthew 13:10-11 Just another reason why we do not throw pearls before swine. They have no appreciation for the truth, and trample it into the dust. I at least thought you were a bit more learned than to make a statement such as: and this is interesting stuff but to figure out what is behind it, well often you end up somewhere in land of shadows and cabals. Not true... and speak for yourself, if this is where you end up. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Family Harvest Gate Remember Heaven's Gate and Halle Bopp - always believed those people were murdered, and I have their tapes... So I ran across the above and it was a joltwas looking for I Am That I Am, which is Royal Arch Mason pass words - the Burning Bush, for boy we do have another name in the bible in a sense - anyway, this is the same art work for the old Halle Bopp Heavens Gate site. This is interesting site...pulled it up using I Am That I Am as search phrase for little research. Check it out if interested - boy religion and conspiracy do go hand in hand...no insult meant to true believers, but had I had a serious religious upbringing, I could not have seen the truth in what I read..and Christ was right - the truth should set you free and this must be why he spoke in parables? So Happy New Year again.and this is interesting stuff but to figure out what is behind it, well often you end up somewhere in land of shadows and cabals. Saba
[CTRL] http://www.grb.net - Global Resource Bank
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.grb.net/prospectus_01.cfm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.grb.net/prospectus_01.cfm"http://www.grb.net /A - Introduction On a planet with abundant ecosystem production and high technology there is no justification for pollution or poverty. The origin of our dilemma is the dated assumption that it is human effort and not nature that makes our basic commodities. This error was monetized during in the industrial age when economics was defined as the social science that dealt with the production, distribution and consumption of manufactured wealth, and with its related problems of labor, taxation and finance. Today we know ecosystems make our basic commodities and economics is in fact the natural science that deals with the production, distribution and recycling of ecoproduct wealth. The conflict between our medium of exchange and nature can be resolved by replacing different private bank notes that mortgage the private value of manufactured wealth with ecocredit that stores the public value of ecoproduct wealth. Welcome to the Global Resource Bank The GRB is a direct democratic institution You own a share in the Bank as your birthright e is the GRB ecocredit sign, as e1,000,000,000,000 equals one trillion ecocredits The creation of GRB ecocredit is subject to ecoproduction outside national jurisdiction. Ecocredit is backed by the goods and services produced, distributed and recycled by ecosystems owned by the shareholders. It stores the life-supporting value of light, heat, hydro, wind and biochemical energy, ozone, carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen and oxygen, genetic and biological diversity, and the proteins, sugars, starches, minerals and water produced in the global commons. The electronic issue of ecocredit is divided equally among shareholder accounts to utilize as a global medium of exchange that simplifies trade. = Shareholder Income The GRB earns income from an account service charge. To stop pollution the amount is related to the size of the account's ecofootprint. To end poverty the Bank divides most of its income equally among its shareholders. The Bank's shareholders earn their income by investing in ecoproduction. These investments increase the Bank's reserve of ecocredit and Earth's capacity to support life. Shareholder Communication Telecommunications makes vital information available to everyone. However, cost is a restriction. Therefore, the Bank pays for global telecommunications. Exchange Capital To simplify the conversion from bank notes to ecocredit the GRB exchanges ecocredit for central bank notes and ecoproduction inside national jurisdiction. shareholder shareholder shareholder shareholder shareholder Greenspan This exchange makes shareholder Greenspan smile because it capitalizes the financial services industry with ecocredit and gives it open market access to more than six billion prosperous customers. Start Up On opening day the shareholders agree to value the Bank's gross ecoproduct wealth at 6,000 trillion ecocredits. Half of these are issued to the communication, capital exchange and six billion shareholder accounts. The balance is reserved to capitalize the increasing population. The shareholders direct the Bank via the Internet. The current GRB is equal to the shareholder's average yearly evaluation of its gross ecoproduct wealth. They set the division of Bank income between the communication and shareholder accounts and decide what percentage of their income they invest in ecoproduction. The Bank displays the number of shareholders who chose the Bank's manager and amendments to its charter. Global Resource Bank Charter The United People of Earth charter the Global Resource Bank to earn economic security by taking responsibility for Earth's ecosystem. Operating System SHAREHOLDERS own one non-transferable share in the Bank as a birthright. The Bank is directed by the shareholders. ACCESS to the Bank is by toll-free telecommunications. GRB is Earth's environment outside national jurisdiction. Shareholders value its current gross ecoproduct wealth at 6,000 trillion ecocredits. Ecocredits have the buying power of January 1, 2001 Federal Reserve notes. COMMUNICATION CAPITAL of 500 trillion ecocredits is issued to the Communication Account to pay for opening telecommunications. EXCHANGE CAPITAL of 700 trillion ecocredits is issued to the Capital Exchange Account. These ecocredits are exchanged for ecoproduction inside national jurisdiction and central bank notes issued prior to January 1, 2002. SHAREHOLDER CAPITAL of 41 ecocredits a day is issued to Shareholder Accounts. This issue begins with shareholder registration and continues for twenty years. Shareholders invest 10% of their capital in ecoproduction. After one year of inactivity account balances revert to the GRB Reserve. GRB INCOME comes from an account service charge which is deposited in the GRB Income Account. This account exchanges ecocredit with the GRB
[CTRL] Fwd: Search the King James Bible
So Eagle here are two beautiful psalms linked to ritual murder of Kennedys - timed to bible calendar and code..you see the wounding of heads over many country and that means like Lanskey and Marcello, Mafia said - RFK is the tail, get the dog and aim for the head.more wag the dog? So Walter Lippman CFR/Roundtable quoted from this psalm and an old AP reporter sent me copy of his "sermon"..taking from the 109th psalm he said "surely the democrats will be punished and their offices taken away" and then they tried to murder Teddy having just murdered RFK and vendetta style they bloted the John Fizgerald Kennedy line out of book. These are such lovely psalms but they have a tough time explaining the 109th and 110th psalms the psalms authorizing execution of your enemies. King James Murderer's BIBLE? You better believe it...read on and find the high hills of Bashan and remember Gerald of Og symbolized King Og whom Moses murdered to get to promised land, but then Moses was knocked of on Mt. Nebo.never found his body..first FITZGERALD was GERALD OF OG...so what other unsolved murders lay within the murderers bible - timed to go off this year? 3 Presidents again and 3 Popes maybe? Maybe the BLACK POPE.the destruction of the Catholic Church by the Red Shirts? BIBLE is full of ritual murder and direct commands to murder all witnesses who might appeara before a Judge in any court so now count body bags from JFK to Clinton and see who survived. FOR THE Judas always live, as they say, to write the books. Saba The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Psalms, psalm 109 "1": Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise; "2": For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue. "3": They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause. "4": For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. "5": And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love. "6": Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. "7": When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. "8": Let his days be few; and let another take his office. "9": Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. "10": Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. "11": Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. "12": Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. "13": Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. "14": Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. "15": Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. "16": Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart. "17": As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. "18": As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. "19": Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. "20": Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul. "21": But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me. "22": For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me. "23": I am gone like the shadow when it declineth: I am tossed up and down as the locust. "24": My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness. "25": I became also a reproach unto them: when they looked upon me they shaked their heads. "26": Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy: "27": That they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, LORD, hast done it. "28": Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice. "29": Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame, and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle. "30": I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; yea, I will praise him among the multitude. "31": For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor, to save him from those that condemn his soul. "Psalm" 110 Psalms, psalm 110 Compare with Revised Standard Version: Psal.110 1: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 2: The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 3: Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the
[CTRL] GORBACHEV'S OPEN LETTER TO DUBYA
-Caveat Lector- The Dallas Morning News, 31 December 2000 Dear George W. Bush: I am writing to you as a citizen of our planet and someone who beholds the last remaining superpower. Can there be any doubt that the United States plays a major role in guiding our world? Only a fool could disregard that fact. To acknowledge this is a given, even though American spokesmen are perhaps somewhat overly inclined to press the point home to the rest of the world. For while America's role is acknowledged throughout the world, her claim to hegemony, not to say domination, is not similarly recognized. For this reason, I hope, Mr. Bush, as the new American president, that you will give up any illusion that the 21st century can, or even should, be the "American Century". Globalization is a given -- but "American globalization" would be a mistake. In fact, it would be something devoid of meaning and even dangerous. I would go even further and say it is time for America's electorate to be told the blunt truth : that the present situation of the United States, by which a part of its population is able to enjoy a life of extraordinary comfort and privilege, is not tenable over the long run as long as an enormous portion of the world lives in abject poverty, degradation and backwardness. For 10 years, U.S. foreign policy has been formulated as if it were the policy of a victor in war, the Cold War. But at the highest reaches of U.S. policy-making no one has grasped the fact that this could not be the basis for formulating post-Cold War policy. In fact, there has been no "pacification". On the contrary, there has been a heightening of inequalities, tension nd hostility, with most of the last directed toward the United States. Instead of seeing an increase in U.S. security, the end of the Cold War has seen a decline. It is not hard to imagine that, should the United States persist in its policies, the international situation will continue to deteriorate. It is also difficult to believe that, under present circumstances, relations between the United States, on the one hand, and China, India and all the rest of the earth that lives in abject poverty, on the other, could develop in a positive direction. Nor is it possible, on the basis of its present posture, for the United States to establish effective, long-run cooperation with its traditional allies, Europe first and foremost. Already we see the outburst of numerous trade disputes, evidence of the conflicting interests separating the United States and the European Union. For example, at the recent global warming conference in the Netherlands the United States found itself largely in isolation. U.S. positions were far removed from those of all others, including the Europeans. As a result, no decision was taken. This is clearly an example of a failure of "world governance". From the standpoint of the Old World, the post-Cold War period ushered in hopes that now are faded. Over the course of the past decade, the United States has continued to opearate along an ideological track identical to the one it followed during the Cold War -- but now without the Cold War. Need an example? The expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization eastward, the military theory and practice of U.S. rearmament -- including the latest and utterly extravagant anti-missile national defense system, which, in turn, is based on the truly bizarre notion of so-called rogue states. Isn't it amazing that disarmament moved further along during the last phase of the Cold War than during the period after its end? And isn't that because U.S. leadership has been unable to adjust to the new European reality? Like it or not, the new reality has placed Europe on the world scene as a new, independent and powerful player. To continue to regard it as a junior partner would be a mistake. Finally, as concerns Russia, the fact that relations between the United States and Russia have deteriorated over the course of recent years is hardly a secret. Resonsibility for this state of affairs must be shared between Russian and American leadership. The present leadership of Russia appears ready to cooperate with the United States in framing a new agenda for relations. But it is unclear what your orientation will be. What we heard during the electoral campaign did not sound encouraging. If we truly want to build a new world order and further European unity, we have to recognize that that will not be possible without an active role on the part of Russia. This recognition is the necessary basis for setting future Russian-American relations on the right path. In more general terms, we need to bear in mind that the world is complicated, that it contains and expresses a variety of interests and cultures. Sooner or later, international policy, including that of the United States, will have to come to terms with that variety. Sincerely, Mikhail Gorbachev President, The Gorbachev Foundation,
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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] One of the best sources on Bush
http://www.geocities.com/alanjpakula/triplecrown.html America's First Families In the nearly three decades since the New Right movement began, the main objective has been for the Right Wing Elite to extend their influence throughout the higher levels of our society. These leaders of the New Right include (notorious Clinton hater) Richard Mellon Scaife, Paul Weyrich and the Coors, DeVos (Amway), Hunt (Oil), Koch (Oil), Krieble (Loctite), Noble, Olin Van Andel (Amway) families. In fact, oilman George Bush Sr. comes from this very same class of people. His tenure as CIA Director is but a small part of a long history with the Intelligence community, which has included Richard Mellon Scaife, and the other New Right leaders. It is highly unlikely that Bush would have been appointed CIA Director, without some prior experience within the Agency. Indeed, there have been reports that Bush was possibly a CIA operative since at least 1960. What's more, the Bush Family's CIA affiliation appears to originate with the OSS, the WWII Agency that preceded the CIA. Robert Lovett, the business partner of Bush's father Prescott, was an OSS Officer, along with Mellon Scaife's father Alan and their Mellon relatives. In fact, Paul Mellon was the OSS Station Chief in London. Prescott could not (officially at least) be involved in the OSS, since he was a Director of Union Banking. It was a major embarrassment for the Bush Family, when in 1942 Union Banking's assets were seized under the Trading With the Enemy Act, for collaborating with Nazi industrialists. [1] . (A few weeks later, another Bush venture had its assets seized as well). After the war, Prescott's partner Lovett headed a Committee bearing his name that recommended the creation of the CIA as the descendant of the OSS. Averell Harriman, another of Prescott's partners at "Brown Brothers Harriman", was likewise directly involved with the CIA. Given that many of Prescott Bush's cronies enjoyed a long association with the Agency, it is likely that Prescott was involved with the CIA as well. (Those interested in looking more deeply into the elite roots of the OSS and the CIA should read about Yale's "Skull and Bones" society -- a.k.a "the Bonesmen" [2] ). In the seventies, while George Bush Sr. was in the wings for the CIA Directorship, Richard Mellon Scaife ran Forum World Features, a CIA front for a European propaganda operation. There are also reports that Scaife was likely involved in the Heritage Foundation's funding of Iran-Contra, along with Heritage President Edwin Feulner. Contrary to what he still declares to this day, then-Vice President Bush Sr. was clearly "in the loop" of Iran-Contra, as Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger's notes demonstrated. Furthermore, Admiral John Poindexter claimed that he conferred directly with Bush about the Iran-Contra scheme. Also, Bush and his assistant Donald Gregg communicated regularly with Felix Rodriguez, the notorious ex-CIA agent at the heart of the Contra Supply operation [See Lawrence Walsh's "Firewall", W.W. Norton Co., 1997; pp. 271-272]. In recent years, the CIA Inspector General's Report confirmed that the Contras were trafficking in cocaine, under the watch of Oliver North and the CIA [3] . There is strong evidence that the Contras used North's planes (financed in part by Joe Coors) for their drug-running. Although a Congressional investigation into Contra-Cocaine was recently concluded, there remain lingering questions about the role North's team and the CIA played in this enterprise. [Click here to go beyond the headlines -- What the recent Congressional Investigations actually revealed]. During this period, both Presidents Reagan and Bush appointed Mellon Scaife to the US Advisory Committee for Public Diplomacy, which oversaw the US Information Agency. A key component of the White House Spin Machine, the USIA worked hand in hand with Walter Raymond's interagency propaganda operation. The mission of Raymond's outfit (code-named "Project Truth") was to manipulate US public opinion in favor of the Reagan-Bush foreign policies. [See Robert Parry's "Lost History" for details [4] ]. In 1983, the USIA's director, Charles Z. Wick, held a fundraiser in support of the Iran-Contra activities. With the help of Scaife's lieutenants, Wick collected over $400,000 in private funds from the likes of the Smith Richardson and Olin Foundations [5] . [Also, see the National Security Archive's "Iran-Contra Collection", May 1983]. Later, Frank Shakespeare, yet another Heritage board member, served as the USIA's Director. Ultimately, President George Bush dealt the final blow to Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh's prosecution of the Iran-Contra affair. Less than a month before leaving office, Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger and the other defendants awaiting trial. Bush also issued sweeping pardons to those previously convicted ["Firewall", p. 493]. In so doing, Bush clearly abused his Presidential power to avoid further
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i just been and it seems fine. maybe your browser is out of whack? - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 January 2001 19:21 Subject: [CTRL] [an error occurred while processing this directive] Just so you know...[an error occurred while processing this directive] at: http://www.ctrl.org/In other words, your HTML is out of whack.eagle 1
[CTRL] Fwd: 3 explosions rock Israeli coast
Israeli emergency workers respond to an explosion in the town of Netanya on Monday. Reports from the center of Netanya on the scene and observations from witnesses. 3 explosions rock Israeli coastArmy Radio reports heavy damage; at least 20 injuredMSNBC NEWS SERVICES JERUSALEM, Jan. 1 Three explosions, apparently bomb blasts, went off one after another Monday evening in the Israeli coastal city of Netanya, officials and the Israeli media said. NBC News reported 20 injuries, 1 serious. Army Radio reported heavy damage. http://www.msnbc.com/news/468764.asp
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To: the List Moderator/Owner and SOME subscribers, but not all... I've really had it with the mean spirit of HATE on this list, and the overall lack of nettiquette for a group setting such as this. Moreso, I am disappointed in the List Moderator's calls on people who were making innocent comments. Instead of progression, there seems to be a serious digression of moral turpitude and there is little if any compassion. This list used to be something to look forward to, whether I agreed or not... whether Ihated the subject matter or not... Lately, and especially since election day,this list hasgotten out of hand and out ofcivility. If you call how this CTRL list is run,i.e. "civil"??? LOL then, you can have your kind of civility updwazoo. By the way, there is nothing wrong with my browser, unless there is something wrong with MSIE 5.5... so that issue is moot. Some here, I will truly miss... Some I will be glad to hear from no more. Of course, Iknow that SOME of you will be glad to see me go. And ... So be it. I bid you adieu. eagle 1 .
[CTRL] Who is wagging your neighbor's tongue?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.larouchepub.com/ahc.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.larouchepub.com/ahc.html"British Subversion of America:The Militias and /A - And remember, both Powell and GHW Bush have been knighted. Maybe Cheney also. For their service to the House of Hanover-Saxe-Gotha. And as the article points out "speaking in tongues" (babeling) is non-biblical and as practiced seems rather disparte if not demonic. MHO Om K - British Subversion of the United States: Who is wagging your neighbor's tongue? The militias and Pentecostalism by Anton Chaitkin The author requests all questions, comments or further intelligence leads be sent to Anton Chaitkin c/o [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The greatest threat from terrorism in the United States comes from people who are associated with a British Church of England-run Pentecostalist movement inside the United States. It is this apparatus which has structured the militias. Now, most people in the militia movement, or associated with it, have no part of the intentions of those who are behind it, particularly that section in the Episcopal Church, or Pat Robertson, who's part of this same movement, who are barking--authentically barking--Pentecostalists, who, with their connections with the military, deeply embedded in the military, including the ... corps of chaplains in the U.S. military, are largely controlled, presently, by outright barking Pentecostalists This is the ... main source of the internal threat of the potential for terrorism, and other kinds of treason inside the United States, today." --Lyndon LaRouche, "EIR Talks," July 30, 1997. Two years after the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal building, a stream of lies is pouring through British-run media sewers, preparing credulous populists to view terrorism, or even civil war, as inevitable. The grotesque joke is on the American populists. Their paramilitary militias, and Pentecostal sects, are creations of the very "Godless internationalists" they believe they are resisting. The British Empire high church apparatus seeks to reduce the American mind to that of a clown, a hypnotized "Christian" who babbles or barks like a dog; a "patriot" numbed by anti-government gossip and Armageddonism, so that he sees his own nation as his enemy. Will these Americans provide cover, and become patsies, for criminal outrages by professional terrorists? In hopes that, instead, they will get out of the game, and turn their righteous anger against their manipulators, we offer this report on how the game is rigged. This investigation began with a probe into the armed standoff between police and "Republic of Texas" members demanding the secession of Texas, in April 1997. This writer telephoned into the besieged compound and interviewed Richard Otto, alias "White Eagle," who said he was asking members of militias around the country to come to the site, armed for a shootout. I checked Otto's background, and then shared my findings informally with militia members and others who might have been drawn into the provocation. Otto, it turns out, had been trained and set into motion by an Air Force officer who toured the world practicing New Age pagan rituals, in consultation with senior British intelligence drug-rock-sex gurus such as Gregory Bateson. This unappetizing profile, subsequently spread around by wary militants themselves, helped to discredit and defeat the provocation. While Otto and his band surrendered on May 3, reports flooded into this news service of continuing, outrageous provocations. Among these was the bizarre case of an anti-government Texas demagogue with important military connection s, one Jim Ammerman, whose incitements have been widely circulating among separatists and militia members. A Pentecostal clergyman and retired Army colonel, Ammerman now controls chaplains currently serving in the U.S. Armed Forces around the world, as well as within prisons, and even in the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He claims supernatural prophetic powers, preaches the imminent end of the world, denounces the U.S. government as illegal, and says the President has deserved execution. During the April siege, Ammerman "mediated" between the Texas separatists and the FBI. As EIR inquired further into the origins of the Ammerman operation, and how it is protected within the U.S. military, a much broader picture came into view. Described here are: * Colonel Ammerman's agent methods; * Britain's militia adventures among Ammerman's clients, and the Oklahoma City bombing; +the highest-ranking U.S. general who was captured by Pentecostal mind-benders, and who created Ammerman's anti-government agitation bureau; * how British Empire master-race theorists concocted Pentecostalism; their colonial religious experiments among blacks in the United States and Africa; * the America-hating, feudalist, high church aristocrats and globalists who pushed through "charismatic
[CTRL] SlickMisc: How Clinton Is Killing The Economy
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Rich Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SlickMisc: How Clinton Is Killing The Economy Date: Saturday, December 30, 2000 11:15 PM If you wish to receive ad-free SlickMisc in the future, send $5 to Rich Martin, 201 W Tarrant Rd, #1410, Grand Prairie, TX 75050 From the Home of Rich Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. ___ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY /=-=-=-=-Click Here Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Water is the fastest growing part of the beverage industry, with sales growing to $7.0 billion by 2001. One Company is poised to capture significant market share with a unique marketing strategy. Click below to find out who... http://click.topica.com/8bb1dh9Cb1yqv9a/Veritas \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. The real damage was done by relaxing the anti=trust laws which allowed the merger of our biggest companies, creating monopolies designed to compete in a gloval economy, while destroying their American competition. Rich Martin Editor of Slick [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Miss Moneypenny" Subject: Warning Signs! Warning Signs! January 1, 2001 ~ Vol. 3, No. 1 The Bush Mandate: Save the Economy! First of all, there is no "Recession." We have passed through one, slow quarter. It takes two quarters of low-to-no profits to make it official. One of the primary reasons were in a slowdown is because the bill has come due for the Clinton Administrations deliberate attack on the nations energy needs and other sectors of the economy. A thriving economy uses more energy, needs less regulation, and government interference. We are still importing too much energy resources from other nations, rather than having access to our own vast reserves of coal, oil and natural gas. We are not mining it, extracting and refining it, or building pipelines to move it. The Clinton Administration discouraged the building of new refineries and new utilities. In addition, this nation lags behind other industrial nations in utilizing nuclear energy. Instead of referring to the "China Syndrome", we will be referring soon to the "California Syndrome" where a huge state fails to provide energy to its citizens. Other factors damped down the economy. The Clinton Administration attacked Microsoft, sending a signal that all high tech industries could suffer governmental investigations and regulation. On Dec 22nd, the Associated Press reported, "Departing with a flurry of activity, the Clinton Administration is rushing out a stream of regulations---roping off millions of acres of federal land from developers (and) requiring less polluting trucks." They have, in fact, imposed 29,000 new pages of government regulations on business and every other aspect of our lives. The regulations insure no logging, no mining, no fishing, no grazing, no recreational or other uses of the vast land holdings of the federal government. Their environmental policies thwarted development everywhere, claiming it contributes to "urban sprawl". The new regulations affecting truck emissions will drive up the cost of delivering everything in America. Those costs will cut into profit margins and make life more expensive for everyone. In addition, theyre seeking to impose insanely costly and undefined "ergonomics" requirements on businesses large and small. As Clinton leaves, Reuters reported on Dec 21st that he "unveiled hotly-contested rules designed to keep federal agencies from awarding contracts to firms that breach labor and environmental laws." This affects $200 billion a year in government contracts. Does anyone doubt that Clinton has conspired to end our economic boom? Our economy is still strong and it will get stronger if Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve cut interest rates and encourage the money to flow into new investments. If he doesn't, he should be replaced. Nothing, absolutely nothing, prevents this action. Bush comes into office with a clear mandate to keep the economy going and to pursue to the conservative initiatives that were resisted by the previous administration and the Democrats in Congress. Heres what the Conservative News Service reported on December 2lst. "Now that the election's over, how do Americans feel about taxes, partial birth abortion, gun control, school vouchers, the defense buildup, Social Security and the minimum wage? A new Zogby American Values poll offers some answers. The poll of 1,005 likely voters, conducted
[CTRL] Harry Browne on W
-Caveat Lector- Should we give George Bush another chance? Harry Browne --- © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com WorldNetDaily Publisher Joseph Farah received a lot of flak from readers when he suggested that the Bush presidency may be considerably less than what you dream of. The theme of the flak was, "Shut up and give George Bush a chance." But this overlooks the record. What the Bush backers should have said was, "Shut up and give Bush another chance." He's already had a chance. In fact, he's had two of them -- and he failed in both cases. The big-government governor The first chance was his reign as governor of Texas. He had almost six years to work for smaller government. Is the Texas government less expensive, less intrusive, less oppressive than it was six years ago? Hardly. The Texas Eagle Forum says government in Texas grew by over a third between 1995 and 1999. New gun-control laws were enacted. No state agencies or departments were eliminated. So he flunked his first chance. And that's in a state that's supposedly conservative. Do you expect him to be more libertarian now that he has to please a whole nation o f special-interest groups? The big-government candidate George Bush's second chance came during the recent campaign. He was running against a politician who was on the side of bigger government on every issue. Bush had a golden opportunity to gain major support by calling attention to the expense, futility and danger of Al Gore's big-government schemes. Instead, Bush offered his own version of each of these obscenities. Running against an obvious petty dictator, he barely squeaked out a victory because he never offered a true contrast. Oh yes, when speaking in generalities, he was for limited government, "strict construction of the Constitution," and the like. But whenever he was specific, it was always for bigger and bigger government that violated constitutional restraints. Take health care. We once had the best health-care system in history: personal service from doctors, low-cost hospitals, free clinics, charity hospitals and health insurance accessible to virtually everyone. Then the politicians created Medicare and turned our health-care system into a nightmare. So what cure did George Bush offer? He proposed a new government boondoggle for prescription drugs. Four years from now, I hope you aren't in dire need of a life-saving medicine. He presented big-government schemes for education, welfare, campaign finance, and any other area that was an election issue. And what government programs did he promise to get rid of -- or even reduce? None. He flunked his second chance. The big-government president George Bush is already failing his third chance. He's staffing his administration with out-of-work liberal politicians and retreads from previous Republican presidencies. There's one appointee who fits neither of those categories, but is even worse. That's John Ashcroft, who will be attorney general. Here's a man who has no more respect for the Constitution or your liberty than Janet Reno does. He's apparently never met an invasion of your freedom that he didn't think was necessary to fight crime or drugs. This demonstrates once again that there's really very little difference between the left and the right. Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free. Thanks to George Bush and John Ashcroft, four years from now it will be easier for the government to tap your phone, read your email, snoop in your bank account, raid your home by mistake, and regiment your life. It doesn't matter whether you have an interest in guns or drugs or crime, because every American citizen will lose another chunk of his remaining freedom. What do you expect? Government spending, government snooping, government gun control -- all will expand in a Bush administration. This isn't conjecture or ill-wishing. It is simply obvious. Part of the reason is that the conservative organizations that would raise a stink if Bill Clinton proposed to steal your freedom will go into hibernation now that "one of our own" is safely in the White House. Do you really think George Bush is going to stop the federal government from snooping in your bank account and your e-mail? Do you really think he's going to stop the deterioration of health care and education by getting the federal government out of those areas? Do you really think he's going to stop risking your life by antagonizing foreign countries? If you believe any of those things, I have just two words for you: Grow up. What do you want? If what you want in a President is someone -- anyone -- who isn't Bill Clinton or Al Gore, then George Bush will suffice very well. But if what you want is someone
[CTRL] Samantha: see Kleen-It Integrity Master
-Caveat Lector- Samantha: Kleen-It download from www.overware.com whisks away weird stuff from MS, Juno, and such. It's free and appears to work well. Another goodie is Integrity Master from(stiller.com if I recall correctly). Both are free although IM gets pushy after awhile. IM photographs your operating system files and everything else when you have your rig in perfect operating order -- whenever that may be. Nothing can get by Integrity Master. The hackers tweakers etc claim that we create our own worst security hole by checking the box which says Save Password. Passwords, I gather, should never be saved to disk unless they are encrypted. My backup computer has a clean install of WIN98 from the CD-ROM WIN98 and no protection of anykind whatsoever has been installed in that machine. It scoots about the web very fast and nothing ever goes wrong with it! This machine is bullet proof like a tank and just creeps about even though it uses a faster modem than the protection-less machine. I've had the same traces you report blocked by the firewall. I no longer believe that "security" exists, period. So why bother? It's all a hype. No doubt MIT is looking for nanoweapon secretsI'm sure they'll find some! Ciao, BR Wahl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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AMEN Eagle 1 wrote: To: the List Moderator/Ownerand SOME subscribers, but not all...I've really had it with the mean spirit of HATE on this list, and the overall lack of nettiquette for a group setting such as this. Moreso, I am disappointed in the List Moderator's calls on people who were making innocent comments. Instead of progression, there seems to be a serious digression of moral turpitude and there is little if any compassion.This list used to be something to look forward to, whether I agreed or not...whether I hated the subject matter or not... Lately, and especially since election day, this list has gotten out of hand and out of civility. If you call how this CTRL list is run, i.e. "civil"??? LOLthen, you can have your kind of civility updwazoo.By the way, there is nothing wrong with my browser, unless there is something wrong with MSIE 5.5... so that issue is moot.Some here, I will truly miss...Some I will be glad to hear from no more.Of course, I know that SOME of you will be glad to see me go.And ... So be it.I bid you adieu.eagle 1.
[CTRL] [Fwd: [isml] Taking the Mask Off Pseudoscience]
Grag wrote: Yes. Pseudoscience is a growing problem. I highly commend two relatively recent books on the subject: The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark Carl Sagan http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345409469/gregburchsbookpa Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition and Other Confusions of Our Time Michael Shermer http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733870/gregburchsbookpa I have read both those books and I suggest that you read these two excellent books: Daimonic Reality : A Field Guide to the Otherworld by Patrick Harpur Paperback - 330 pages Reprint edition (May 1996) Penguin USA (Paper); ISBN: 0140194851 Angels and Aliens : Ufo's and the Mythic Imagination by Keith Thompson Paperback Reprint edition (May 1993) Fawcett Books; ISBN: 0449908372 http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id254/pg1/ I have also copied out the following excellent article by daev at disinfo.com: charles fort: scientist or humorist? by Dave 'daev' Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - December 20, 2000 One measures a circle beginning anywhere. - Charles Fort Charles Fort was a painstakingly erudite dissector of scientific texts and a ravenous predator of scientific dogma, who scrutinized how scientists formed their theories according to their own personal views, rather than the weight of evidence available. Fort gleefully trawled through the data that was suppressed, discarded or explained away in a less than satisfactory manner. He referred to this this data as 'damned'. It is probably safe to say there are more people familiar with the work of Fort's work than actually know anything about him, in spite of the stalwart campaigns of various Fortean societies, organizations and institutes, not to mention 'Fortean Times', the London based 'Journal of Strange Phenomena'. Every time some character from 'Star Trek' or some other science fiction drama start warbling on about teleportation - that's Fort, or rather the tongue-in-cheek 'explanation' that he conjured up to explain the alleged disappearance of objects from one place, and their apparent reappearance elsewhere. Born in 1874 in Albany, New York, Fort lived most of his life in New York City, apart from eight years in London, England. He died in NYC in 1932. Of his many works, there are really just four that are easily available today: 'The Book of the Damned' (1919), 'New Lands' (1923), 'Lo!' (1931) and 'Wild Talents' (1932). These works are complex lyrical, whimsical works of investigation, doubt and anti-dogma, and are not always the easiest of reading. As 'The Book of the Damned' begins: "A procession of the damned. By the damned, I mean the excluded. We shall have a procession of data that Science has excluded." "Battalions of the accursed, captained by pallid data that I have exhumed, will march. You'll read them - or they'll march. Some of them livid and some of them fiery and some of them rotten." Many of the paranormal symbols that we accept today were injected into popular culture by proponents of Fort - fish falls, rains of blood, bleeding statues, and damn it, UFOs, as well as ghosts, astronomy, stigmata, the madness of crowds, panics and hysterias, anomalous animals. Fort realized what he was doing - "I am a pioneer of a new kind of writing that instead of heroes and villains will have floods and bugs and stars and earthquakes for its characters and motifs." This isn't to say that they didn't happen before Fort - rather they were ignored by literate men of reason, those who, even in 1902, were still arguing "that meteorites do not fall from the sky; that they are masses of iron upon the ground in the first place, that attract lightning; that the lightning is seen, and is mistaken for a falling luminous object." Fort's myriad wanderings through strange phenomena - including the likes of the Devil's Hoofprints of Devonshire (1855) are endlessly quotable: "Nothing, in religion or science, or philosophy . . .is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." It shouldn't be assumed, however, that 'Forteans' - those who practice a form of humorous agnostic skepticism - should be thought of as dogmatic - for the very nature of Forteanism demands the questioning of all doctrine, never mind how sacred. Fort illustrated how explaining something something away was much different to actually explaining it - "The fate of all explanation is to close one door only to have another fly wide open." "To this day no one can decide whether I am a scientist or a humorist." - Charles Fort International Fortean Organization The 'International Fortean Organization' (INFO) was set up in 1965 to continue and expand the original 'Fortean Society'. INFO is dedicated to disseminating Fort's work and continues his research into unexplained phenomena by holding an annual conference, 'FortFest', and by publishing the 'INFO Journal'. The Quotable Fort: Selected Quotes From The Collected
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-Caveat Lector- nothing wrong with my browser, unless there is something wrong with MSIE 5.5 MSIE's default mode is to spy on you. Is that something right with it? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Marrs-Is someone preventing our exploration of Mars?
-Caveat Lector- A healthy scepticism is certainly warranted in all things. But one surely stretches credulity in prescribing all of the Mars related mishaps to "accident". It seems to me that it is something which should be investigated further if nothing else. I am inclined to believe that anything uncovered is apt to be of Human design and that no aliens are involved, but hey, I could be wrong too. On Sun, 31 December 2000, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: -Caveat Lector- I am fairly sceptical about BEMs but I also have my suspicions. Remember how there was a rash of mysterious meteorite strikes and satellite problems around the time of the Mars explorer? Maybe they little green men are fighting back, but the governments are covering it up sucessfully? On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:22:47 -0800 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More predictions for 2001 ;-D
-Caveat Lector- Happy New Year! Tenorlove ~~~ From The Top 5 List http://www.topfive.com Copyright 2000 by Chris White. Please leave this attached if you forward. Predicted News Stories for 2001 23 "Al Gore Arrested After Sixteen Hour Argument With Little League Umpire" 22 "Hillary Shoots Bill; Declares Love for Joey Buttafuocco" 21 "N. Central African Nation of Chad Announces Name Change" 20 "Nobel Literature Prize Awarded to Internet Humor List Writers" 19 "Stunning Final Recount Results: Dewey Defeats Truman After All!" 18 "Rosie O'Donnell Adopts Peru" 17 "Missing Bermuda Triangle Vehicles Located in David Copperfield's Garage" 16 "$27 Billion Government Study Concludes U.S. Election Procedures Hindered by Outdated Equipment and Inefficient Procedures: Senate Committee Recommends Further Inquiry" 15 "Armed Students Storm School, Demands 'Gooder Education'" 14 "Anna Nicole Smith Weds Strom Thurmond" 13 "Zimbabwe Elects Conservative President; Baldwin and Basinger Move Again" 12 "Florida Changes Official State Motto to 'The Dumb Voter State'" 11 "New Baseball Commissioner Clinton Decrees New Rules for Reaching Third Base" 10 "Researchers Locate Gene Responsible for Parking Car Sideways Across Two Spots Like an Idiot" 9 "Metallica Sues Teens Who Make Mix Tapes" 8 "Calendar Purists Celebrate 'Real Millennium'; Rest of World Points and Laughs" 7 "Independent Counsel Set to Begin Investigation of Martin Sheen" 6 "Scientists Discover Cure for Adam Sandler" 5 "Gore Calls for McDonald's Recount, Claims 'Billions Served' Omits Disenfranchised Filet-O-Fish" 4 "Clinton Forms New Boy Band, *N'POTUS" 3 "Doctors Alarmed as Comedian Chris Rock Balloons to 112 Lbs." 2 "Disney 1st Armored Brigade Reaches Virginia, AOL-Time Warner Orders Bomber Strike on Orlando" and Topfive.com's Number 1 Predicted News Story for 2001... 1 "Starbucks Opens Second Franchise on International Space Station" __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- Well, I certainly agree. Even accepting the Christian story one must assume that the Devil is the ruler of the current age, and that he is the "father of lies" and a master of deception. Therefore, how is it that one can say, from a Christian perspective, that there are no conspiracies?? It seems to me that the "old dragon" Satan would have them burgeoning everywhere? No? Of course I am not inclined to believe that Satan is doing anything, but humans surely are, and it is in their nature to be deceptive, secretive, and conspiring. On Mon, 01 January 2001, Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- Howdy Dupe, I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K In a message dated 12/31/00 10:23:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Al-Kitab al-Thalith al-Kansan al-Riyadhi
-Caveat Lector- Karl E. Taylor wrote: Subject: Re: Al-Kitab al-Thalith al-Kansan al-Riyadhi From: "Karl E. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/1/01 8:28 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kansan1225 wrote: Karl E. Taylor wrote: Subject: Re: Al-Kitab al-Thalith al-Kansan al-Riyadhi From: "Karl E. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/31/00 3:52 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kansan1225 wrote: A response to Ms. Harper and company: Oh good, I'm in company I am a Christian and believe in the Holy Trinity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Bully for you. I believe in dragons, computers and my cat. Do they count too? My successes in Conspiracy investigations have led me to believe that the Holy Spirit points me in the right direction. Sure it does. And agent Mulder is a real person too. For example, on June 5, 1999, I posted a message on alt.conspiracy and other newsgroups identifying the date July 16 as a target date for CLuM activities. On July 16, 1999, JFK, Jr., fell victim to an aviation "accident". Simply amazing! You find one, ONE incident that might reflect well on your predictions. Tell, what else happened that day? Do you know? Thought not. Again, most recently, on September 19, 2000, I wrote in my newsletter that October 12, 2000, would likely see "some new CLuM outrage". As it happened, on October 12, 2000, on Columbus Day, the USS Cole was attacked in Yemen. You are as bad as Sollog on sci.skeptic. Scan the papers for ANYTHING that just might fit into your predictions, and you must be right. Child of the X-Files. Time for your meds now junior. I have come to the conclusion that this kind of success is not solely my own doing. It seems that God wants me to warn people about the Conspiracy in concrete terms and have them choose good over evil. Sure, and Jean Dixon was right 2 out of 100 times too. Tell me, oh wise seer, what will happen to me on Tuesday? Better yet, what have I got in my pocket? And do you know what wisdom is? -- I am not really in the business of making predictions. Most of my work concerns theories about past events. You can read my past articles "The Consecration of New Atlantis" and "Sinister Masonic secrtes of the Oklahoma City bombing" in Dejanews as examples. But sometimes my theories point to a future date. This was the case with October 12, 2000. I had linked this date to Franklin D. Roosevelt and it came to pass according to my theories. Then I suggest you get some money for this theory of yours. Say about 1 million dollars. Simply contact the JREF at http://www.csicop.org and find out how to have your theory tested. Once it has been proven that you can do this, why the money is yours. So is world aclaim, recognition, flocks of followers that used to be skeptics. That is, IF you are shown to be right. Now, do you have guts enough to put your claims to the test? Or are you just another bad psychic that believes they have something which they don't? -- There are none more ignorant and useless, then they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. Rev. Karl E. Taylor[EMAIL PROTECTED] A.A #1143 ULC Minister Home School Educator for Computer Science Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director Thank you for your interesting suggestion. However, I do not think my claim would qualify for that prize. What I claim is discovering a pattern of Conspiratorial action. The Conspirators include humans such as Billy Blythe Clinton and many others. I predicted that these Conspirators were likely to act on October 12, 2000. They did act. Their action was not supernatural. My discovery is similar to a mundane technological discovery. It does not necessarily concern supernatural activity. It is just that I feel that God helped in making this discovery. Any other person might feel that their achievements were due to help from God. I do not think that this is the sort of claim that Csicop is interested in. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Jan 01, at 10:37, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: and was it - who was the tax collector Thomas, I believe... Matthew was the tax collector. See Caravaggio's The Calling of Matthew. sno0wl sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Al-Kitab al-Thalith al-Kansan al-Riyadhi
Bully for you. I believe in dragons, computers and my cat. Do they >> >count too? It counts to show that you're such a clever clunko.
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
"Howdy Dupe" What an uncivilized mutt. Another net-buster. Begone.
[CTRL] Netbusters
-Caveat Lector- CTRL seems to be inundated with graduates of the "How to disrupt a reasonable discussion group and turn it into a disgusting mess of squabblers and pig-mouths" School of Left-wing Infiltrators. Wonder where they all came from?? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More information on P. U.K.E.
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III asked about the virulent CLuM clique of the Primordial Unmitigated Knights of the East. Here are some more data: Forum: alt.freemasonry Thread: One Thousand and One Knights Subject: One Thousand and One Knights Date: 09/03/1999 Author: Kansan1225 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My new associate, Miss Artemis Vaughan, a repentant, and now Christian, former member of CLuM Lodge Yellow Rose #1377 of Kingwood, TX, has come up with a partial membership list of the schismatic new sect of clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) here in Mosquitoes. This sect, the so-called Primordial Unmitigated Knights of the East, has attracted many disgruntled members of Yellow Rose Lodge. The ringleader himself, the self-proclaimed Hidden Hierophant of P. U. K. E., goes by the name Swami Dietrich Krishnamurthy. His original name was Dietrich Schicklgruber, hailing from New Braunfels, TX, not far from Schlitterbahn, the famed water sports amusement park. He is proud of his Aryan roots and, when he realized that the Masonic swastika is really a Hindu symbol, he converted to Hinduism. Another character is Admiral Shmo Schmuck (Swiss Navy, retired), who could not take the harsh winters along the Bodensee any more. He moved to the Greater Mosquitoes metropolitan area and is enjoying the exceptional summer weather here in a comfortable condominium in a desirable section of downtown Deer Park, TX. Admiral Shmo has not been able to advance very far up the P. U. K. E. ranks, because he has failed the all-important backward spelling test. For example, he failed to recognize that "Scaasi", the name of the fashion design company, is really "Isaacs" spelled backwards. Admiral Shmo is therefore stuck at the 19th degree of P. U. K. E., Aspiring Bearer of the Copybook (A:.B:.C:.). Next is Nurse Rasheeda Mumtaza Del Fuego. She used to be called Rosie Miranda Del Fuego, but she is an inveterate seeker of inner peace and had sought this inner salaam in Islam, thus adopting her present name. Later on she was trapped by the power-hungry cult of Bubba of the Lotus Throne (BLT). (BLT is led by Bubba Barnes, the illegitimate son of Jimmy Bob Ewing and his clandestine paramour, Pamela Barnes.) However, even as a practicing Bubbist, Nurse Rasheeda kept feeling a deep vacuum inside. Eventually, Rasheeda found fulfillment at the "New Delhi Deli", the vegetarian Luciferian speakeasy run by Sister Ingrid Krishnamurthy, the (now) estranged wife of Swami Dietrich. Rasheeda clicked with Swami Dietrich and is now one of the most dedicated devotees of P. U. K. E. She has reached the 77th degree, Mauve Isis of the Bayous (M:.I:.B:.). That is the highest degree she could afford on her government hospital salary. I should not forget CLuM Brother Apolinari Zilbermanov, an ethnic German and immigrant from old Mother Russia. Brother Apolinari is an unscrupulous jeweler and fence and had been voted as "The Most Likely to Deceive" for 13 years in a row by fellow Yellow Rose members. However, when Apolinari tried to cheat with the Worshipful Master's son, little Lewis O. Williams, W:.M:. Owen "New Order" Williams kicked him out of Yellow Rose. Apolinari Zilbermanov is a distant cousin of Swami Dietrich and helps him along in many ways, even providing livers for Dietrich's famous hors d' oeuvres. However, the Swami does not trust his cousin entirely, so he has kept him at the 166th degree, Holder of the Unwavering, but Flickering, Flashlight (H:.U:.F:.F:.). Another new arrival to Mosquitoes is Chief Geronimo Rojas- Rodriguez, an exiled Apache prince from the Big Bend region of the Rio Grande. Chief Geronimo is an entrepreneur in Pasadena, TX, and the brother of railroad executive and CLuM Sister Rosario Rojas-Rodriguez. Geronimo had a falling out with Rosario, when she refused to support him in his personal services business. Chief Geronimo has now hooked up with Swami Dietrich and has been awarded a suitably high degree for all the services he provides to the Unmitigated Order: he has reached the 238th degree, Patriarch Immaculate of Metropolitan Pasadena (P:.I:.M:.P:.), a tribute to this pristine eastern suburb of Mosquitoes. Many families have a black sheep and this is the unfortunate lot of my zoological associate, Dr. Zoe Schlessinger, D.V.M., Psy. D. Her younger sister, Coach Daphne Schlessinger, is running with a wild crowd and used to be a member of Yellow Rose. Last year Coach Daphne had celebrated the Full Moon of Virgo at an intimate lunch with CLuM Sister Cleito Atlas, the Rabbi's daughter, and the marvellous, but diabolical, real estate agent, Sister Francesca Beaverton. The upshot was that Sister Cleito went ahead and posted photographs from this intimate lunch, this dejeuner a trois, on the Internet for fun and profit. Daphne has had it with Yellow Rose and joined P. U. K. E., reaching the 333rd
[CTRL] Check out Two die in Caribbean sword and fire church attack
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010101/80/au7p2.html"Click here: Two die in Caribbean sword and fire church attack/A A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Year of the Protest
-Caveat Lector- The Boston Phoenix December 28, 2000 - January 4, 2001 The year of the protest 2000 brought us tear gas, rubber pellets, black ski masks, and giant puppets. Will it continue? by Kristen Lombardi History will find it fitting that 2000 neared its end in a burst of anti-capitalist dissent. The news that Seattle had erupted in mini-riots on November 30 called to mind the destruction that occurred there 365 days earlier, when anti-free-trade protests paralyzed the city's downtown. To commemorate the historic 1999 event, protesters went after a popular corporate target -- Starbucks -- smashing windows and spray-painting walls at nine of the chain's coffee shops. The raucous affair pretty much sums up 2000. Y2K might not have sparked the end of civilization, but it brought us street riots all the same. The past 12 months witnessed one rowdy protest after another in cities across the nation, from Seattle to Washington, DC, from Philadelphia to Los Angeles. Even places known more as sunny vacation spots than as hotbeds of political activity (hello, West Palm Beach) became home to mass marches and demonstrations. To be sure, a certain amount of public dissent could be expected -- it was, after all, a presidential-election year in which no incumbent was running. Still, people took to the streets with a passion and ferocity that this country hadn't seen since the late 1960s. What made the 2000 protests so unusual was that they weren't rooted in a single issue like Vietnam -- an issue that divided the country and touched the lives of virtually every American. Under the loose rubric of curbing "corporate globalization" -- the year's hottest political buzz-phrase, referring to the unchecked expansion of global capitalism -- activists spoke out against everything from old-growth forest destruction to Third World debt to racism, sexism, and homophobia. In retrospect, it seems, a spirit of protest once again became the national Zeitgeist. Technically speaking, of course, the mother of all recent protests took place at the tail end of 1999, during the now-famous World Trade Organization (WTO) meetings in Seattle. As many as 50,000 environmentalists, labor leaders, human-rights advocates, and self-styled anarchists shut down the city with demonstrations, giant papier-mâché sea turtles, and vandalism. Police responded with tear gas, rubber pellets, and mass arrests. The tumultuous affair began on November 30, 1999: armies of demonstrators linked arms to block access to the Seattle convention center, where WTO delegates were trying to start a round of global-trade talks. Coverage of the event riveted the country. Newscasters broadcast dramatic footage of anarchists in black ski masks kicking in windows at the Gap, of cops in full riot gear tossing tear gas into the crowds. By the time the protests ended, activists everywhere had been inspired. In shutting down the WTO talks, the demonstrations proved that ordinary people who mobilized could make a difference -- and this intoxicating notion set the tone for 2000. No sooner had the World Series of demonstrations ceased than organizers looked to re-create the magic. And they did. Yet for all the comparisons that were made between 2000-style outrage and the social unrest that punctuated the 1960s, observers often missed one crucial point. Yes, the Greens, unionists, black-clad anarchists, and other advocates who spilled into the streets this year had much in common with their '60s counterparts -- both identified serious societal problems. But '60s protesters could say what they were for -- namely, peace. Protesters today couldn't do the same, at least not without ticking off a list of causes ranging from the inspired (stop the environmental scourge of globalism) to the tired (free Mumia Abu-Jamal). Their crusade's lack of coherence -- not to mention their penchant for parading around with puppets -- prompted many critics to dismiss them out of hand. That would be a mistake, however. These activists not only highlighted the downside of American economic success (which, after all, is due largely to free trade), but also thrust prosperity's price into the American media spotlight -- which is no small feat in our hyperactive, attention-deficit culture. That protesters drew scores of once-apathetic young people into the political process -- witness the strength of Ralph Nader's presidential run -- has proven their biggest achievement yet. And it's one that could pave the way for long-term political action. Flush with the success of Seattle, activists spent the year crisscrossing the country from one major event to another. And like their '60s-era counterparts, who used mischievous, attention-grabbing tactics like taking over university buildings, the 2000 rabble-rousers tried to shut down city neighborhoods that hosted nefarious gatherings -- though they never quite succeeded in doing so after Seattle. In April, some 10,000 activists flocked to the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL
-Caveat Lector- From: "Marilyn Wright" [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was it - who was the tax collector Thomas, I believe... Matthew was the tax collector. See Caravaggio's The Calling of Matthew. I stand corrected. Welcome back to the list. Got paths dug out for the pups, yet? ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The news media and political protests
-Caveat Lector- Date: 2 Jan 2001 03:55:28 - From: "Online Journal" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 01-01-00: The news media and political protests Online Journal - http://www.onlinejournal.com 01-01-00: The news media and political protests By Carla Binion January 1, 2001 | Protests were effective in the 1960s because the news media covered them. Today media organizations often ignore protest demonstrations. When TV news networks do not cover a protest, the demonstration cannot move public opinion. The various news media organizations serve as the public's eyes and ears. When the media fail to report any given event, the public remains blind and deaf regarding the story. Most Americans get their news from television. Day after day during the 1960s, TV news networks showed close-ups of such atrocities as innocent black children marching into police fire hoses. Television news people ran Martin Luther King's speeches, and discussed and dissected them. The American people's eyes were opened, through the media's lens. By contrast, during recent post-election protests in Florida, TV networks kept a distance from Jesse Jackson and other like-minded demonstrators. Few networks aired Jackson's speeches in their entirety. Television news commentators did not explain and clarify the protesters' grievances or give them sympathetic coverage. Fox Network's Bill O'Reilly and many other commentators frequently maligned Jackson as a troublemaker. During last year's Seattle protests of the World Trade Organization, TV networks also kept a distance from the demonstrators. Commentators on MSNBC and other cable news talk shows said repeatedly that they did not understand why people were demonstrating. They often said that the protests seemed to be a hodgepodge of vague and cranky quibbles and implied it would be impossible to grasp the details of the complaints. No wonder the commentators did not understand. They simply never asked. Few TV networks conducted any in-depth interviews with spokesmen for the protesters. The networks did not often show close-ups of peaceful protesters being tear gassed or shot with rubber bullets-incidents widely reported on the Internet and in alternative news publications. In the same way, TV networks gave little coverage to Jesse Jackson's recent complaint that a mob of hired Republicans used violent tactics to try to break up a peaceful post-election demonstration in Florida. If the networks had spent adequate time examining that information, the public would better understand the reasons for Jackson's protests. During the 1960s, public opinion shifted when the media showed the people the truth about anti-war and civil rights demonstrations-especially when the media explained the reasons behind the marches and sit ins. Once public opinion changed, the people urged legislators to take action. Because the following example from history is a useful illustration of (1) the media's impact on public opinion, and (2) the importance of having a fully informed public, it will help to digress and explore it at some length: Deborah Lipstadt researched the behavior of the American press during the coming of the Holocaust in Beyond Belief (The Free Press, Macmillan, Inc., 1986.) Lipstadt says, "During the 1930s and 1940s America could have saved thousands and maybe even hundreds of thousands of Jews but did not do so." Lipstadt points out that the U. S. was slow to recognize the Nazi threat to the Jewish people and asks what might have been done to initiate rescue operations sooner. She quotes Adlai Stevenson: "I believe that in ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, the American people will make the right decision-if and when they are in possession of the essential facts about any given issue." The problem was, during the early Holocaust years, the American news media did not present "the essential facts" to the public in a timely way. Washington might have acted sooner to assist the Jews, says Lipstadt, if the American public had known-via the media-what was going on and then urged politicians to act. The U. S. press treated Hitler's early anti-Semitism and persecution of the Jewish people as "sidebar" news stories. Although Hitler's Final Solution was known to the media by 1942, the press did not fully convey the fact to the American public. Deborah Lipstadt points out that in The Washington Post, March, 1943, William Shirer criticized the public for thinking that reports of Hitler's atrocities were only propaganda. Lipstadt also mentions that in January, 1944, Arthur Koestler cited U. S. public opinion polls showing that nine out of ten Americans believed that reports of a Nazi threat were propaganda lies. (Arthur Koestler, New York Times Magazine, January 9, 1944.) Lipstadt notes that the Christian Century (February 16, 1944) said in response to Koestler that there was no use "screaming" about atrocities against the Jews, claiming it would only "emotionally exhaust" those who wanted to
Re: [CTRL] THE Bible is subject to many interpretations
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will tell you his much - my ancesty dates to the bible and can you prove your pedigree? Well, if one truly BELIEVES the Bible, then we ALL have an 'ancesty' [sic] dating to the Bible... If one doesn't believe it, then one presumably believes we evolved from ape-like beings originating in what is now referred to as 'the dark continent'... So we either all have Jewish ancestry, or we all have African ancestrydepending on which side of the tree one decides to swing from... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RUN AMUCK(o): Under the Edgewater Killings
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Independent History Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RUN AMUCK(o): Under the Edgewater Killings Date: Sunday, December 31, 2000 3:16 AM * * The HOFFMAN WIRE * * Dec. 31, 2000: Eve of the Third Millennium * * Center for Revisionist Studies * Idaho * * http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html ** This is an e-mail letter for those who have requested it. Subscribe/Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- RUN AMUCK(o) Under the Edgewater Killings: Some points about the case of Michael Martinez McDermott, a.k.a. Michael Morgan McDermott, a.k.a Michael McDermod Martinez, a.k.a. Mucko, a.k.a. Elwood P. Dowd 1. The gun-grabbers have failed to note well that Massachusetts has some of the toughest gun laws in the US, yet these did not deter alleged the alleged 42 year old killer, McDermott. Guns are like drugs. They can never be eliminated. They will always be in the hands of criminals, the wealthy and the government. If average citizens were heavily armed, the suspect McDermott could have been shot down by his armed co-workers, especially those who were barricaded inside the acounting dept. and had time to react defensively. 2. Of the duo who committed the Columbine High school massacre in Colorado, the leader was Eric Harris. It was reported concerning Harris: "[T]he coroner has released further toxicology reports ... specialized testing shows levels of Luvox in Harris' blood in a therapeutic range." --KCNC NEWS4, 5/4/99. Oregon's 1998 school shooter Kip Kinkel, who also killed his parents; Kenneth Seguin of Mass. who killed his wife and children, and many other 'cereal' and 'random' mass murderers, including the accused McDermott, were taking an "anti-depressant" drug. This drug, defined chemically as a "selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor" (SSRI), and better known under the brand names Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and Luvox, deadens the conscience and desensitizes the feelings--thus making killing easier. This substance is immensely profitable for drug maker Eli Lilly, which earned $2.5 billion in profits in 1999 from Prozac alone. When is this drug going to come under establishment media scrutiny and Congressional investigation as a powerful contributing factor in these mass murders? This drug has "significant 'side effects," including akathisia, a severe form of agitation. Dr. Jodi Worrel of the Western Missouri Mental Health Center states: "Child and adolescent data suggest worsening of aggression with SSRI treatment." 3. For students of my cryptocracy research, the Twilight language that surfaces in the case of this sub-mariner includes Duracell, (durable cell -- anal e-coli, the secret basis of the next generation of living computers); Edgewater -- the "Maritime law come inland" of the "Bar association," Francis Dashwood's Man-o'-war and the watery borderlands of Oannes, Sirius and Naval Intelligence; #42, the Guide to the Galaxy (car repossessed before the shootings-- a Hitchhiker at the time, also cf. the message he left on his answering machine), dungeons dragons (king's jail cereal spirit); and Mucko the nursery school behemoth, the raging 6' 3", 280 lb. elephant whose "must" produces alchemical Must Be -- Revelation of the Method -- on the eve of the Third Millennium. For example, media one has put its bigfoot on the occult pedal in this case. (This can be turned on and off at will like a spigot). In the early stages of this scenario the media are powering the archetype with haunting suggestions, as for example, in a Dec. 30 Associated Press report titled, "Mysterious details of shooting suspect's life surface," in which attention is paid to sub-rosa hints and allusions which are usually discounted or mocked in similar cases: "His answering machine contained a reference to the novel 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' by Douglas Adams. In the book, some characters are computers with GPP Genuine People Personalities...The novel is part of a series that includes a search for the meaning of 'life, the universe, and everything.' The answer, in something of an anticlimax, turns out to be the number 42. That is also McDermott's age." (End quote from AP, Dec. 30, 2000). The Boston Herald (Dec. 30) quotes an unnamed "nationwide computer system that tracks public records" as stating that the alleged Edgewater killer is "known to have changed his birth name of Michael McDermod Martinez to Michael Morgan McDermott in 1980, and to have used several different combinations of middle names." The Herald says that the real Michael McDermott died in 1984: "Michael McDermott...listed as having died
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The news media and political protests
-Caveat Lector- They are more likely to do that if large numbers of people write and phone them in advance to let them know what we expect. Dream on. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instead of progression, there seems to be a serious digression of moral turpitude "Moral turpitude" Do you even KNOW what that term MEANS? Of course, I know that SOME of you will be glad to see me go. And ... So be it. I bid you adieu. Don't let the door slam on your way out... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Netbusters
-Caveat Lector- From: "BB" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTRL seems to be inundated with graduates of the "How to disrupt a reasonable discussion group and turn it into a disgusting mess of squabblers and pig-mouths" School of Left-wing Infiltrators. Wonder where they all came from?? You should be able to tell us, since you seem to be one of the leaders... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cereal Murder and the Group Mind
-Caveat Lector- From Paranoia Magazine, http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/Michael%20Hoffman%20Interview.htm The Scapegoating of Ted Kaczynski: Cereal Murder and the Group Mind Joan d'Arc Interviews Michael Hoffman, II Joan d'Arc: Michael, in your excellent on-line article entitled "The Scapegoat: Ted Kaczynski, Ritual Murder and the Invocation of Catastrophe," www.hoffman-info.com you write that the Unabom case has been "rubber-stamped in newsrooms with the logo of the FBI." As you explain, a very un-American collusion between the media and the FBI from the beginning primed the public for Ted Kaczynski's guilt without due process and trial. Have we been witness again to a 'lone nut' in the making? Michael Hoffman: Yes, this is the point I make in my essay, "Profiling the FBI's Unabom Charade." It fits the classic profile from Oswald to Arthur Bremer to Tim McVeigh. The tip-off is when you see, at the height of the investigation, that the chief suspect is apprehended and yet there is no search for accomplices. This was true with "Son of Sam" and now with Kaczynski. How was the FBI so certain Kaczynski had zero accomplices? Because they had Kaczynski under surveillance for years. They were shepherding him. Unabom is a Federal government operation. d'Arc: As you state, the nomenclature of the "Unabom-er" was concocted by the FBI. You state that no credible evidence has actually linked Mr. Kaczynski to all or even most of the bombings. In addition, the most well-known sketch of the alleged "Unabom" suspect depicts a hooded man with sunglasses, a mustache and curly red hair. Strangely, the "Unabom Manifesto" alludes to the existence of potential accomplices in the mail bomb attacks for which Kaczynski is now famous. Yet there has been no investigation or follow-up of various leads - nor has there been media curiosity - about this possibility. How does this fit into the 'Trial by Media" scenario? Hoffman: I am a former reporter for the N.Y. bureau of the Associated Press so I know the media. People have this idea that reporters for big outlets are these super-hip, highly educated people. They're not! They are mostly low-grade careerists who eat junk food and have filled their heads with conformist crap since they started college. They are rubber-stamped from a mold. They have no curiosity because real curiosity is dangerous --just ask the late reporter Don Bolles who got car-bombed by Barry Goldwater's pal Kemper Marley. Bolles was a very curious reporter! I think the local reporters on the Kaczynski scene in Montana, from the Great Falls, Helena and Missoula papers and TV stations, knew that something intense was happening involving the "Power Brokers" and they backed off. The first question a good reporter would ask of the Feds is, "Why are you so certain Kaczynski acted alone? You haven't even searched for any accomplices even though the 'Unabom Manifesto' mentions other members of the FC club?" There are hundreds of questions. I'd start there. d'Arc: You point to the fact that nobody other than the Feds were allowed anywhere near Kaczynski's cabin during the search and seizure of property, where the media reported that "truckloads of evidence" were taken from a tiny structure less than 200 square feet. What in your estimation is wrong with this picture? Hoffman: It's the same picture as in Oklahoma City where the Murrah building was demolished before any real investigation could begin. This destruction of evidence-- a felony -- is committed by the felon in "our" own government. d'Arc: Michael, you write that a few days after Ted Kaczynski's apprehension, on April 11, 1996, you got his attention by holding up a cardboard poster at the window of the Helena jail. You indicate that via sign language Kaczynski expressed an interest in a visit from you in jail, and that you entered the jail on that day. Can you describe what you saw in the jail that day. Were you his only visitor and were you able to see Mr. Kaczynski? Hoffman: It was eerie. The jail was deserted except for a couple of local people visiting some other prisoner. This was the day Kaczynski was the most famous man in America. This was the day Time and Newsweek came out with Kaczynski on the cover. Yet there were no environmentalists at the jail drumming support, singing, chanting so Kaczynski could hear them. No environmentalists trying to visit him. Just me, one lone investigator and that was it. The environmentalists were massaging their computer keyboards at the time. There was wild speculation and gossip flying all over the Internet. But for some reason no one bothered to go to the scene - beyond virtual reality to reality. Except for me, Kaczynski was totally alone. It was spooky, given the fact that he was the most famous man on the planet at the time. d'Arc: You also state that one of the media/FBI myths about Ted Kaczynski was that he was "a reviled kook who reeked of body odor, dressed abominably and was paranoid." Can you
[CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IIId)
-Caveat Lector- "THE SINFUL SIXTIES" "CREDIBILITY...lies at the heart of the problem of developing a political substitute for WAR...It is more probable, in our judgement that such a threat will have to be INVENTED...the alternate enemy must...justify the need for taking and paying a 'BLOOD PRICE' in wide areas of human concern...gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the PRINCIPAL APPARENT THREAT to the survival of the species. "POISONING OF THE AIR, AND OF THE PRINCIPAL SOURCES OF FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY...WOULD SEEM PROMISING...POLLUTION could be INCREASED SELECTIVELY for this purpose; in fact the mere modifying of existing programs...could speed up the process enough to make the threat credible much sooner...An economy as advanced and complex as our own requires the PLANNED AVERAGE ANNUAL DESTRUCTION of not less than 10 percent of gross national product if it is to effectively fulfill its STABILIZING function..." - SPECIAL STUDY GROUP'S REPORT TO THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION [123] "THE SINFUL SIXTIES" (Can be read at The Joshua Files) http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ -- Michael The Outlawlady The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Shell Disrupts Electronics
-Caveat Lector- http://www.military.com/Content/Printer_Friendly_Version/1,11491,,00.html?rb_GeneralOption=0passfile=TS%5Febomb%5Fupipage_url=%2FContent%2FMoreContent%2F1%2C11597%2CTS%5Febomb%5Fupi%2C00%2Ehtml New Shell Disrupts Electronics E-Bomb Does Not Kill People UPI LONDON (Dec. 28, 2000) -- British scientists have developed a non-explosive artillery shell that can put out such a powerful burst of radio-frequency energy it will destroy or disable electrical and electronic systems for miles around without killing anyone. The new so-called E-Bomb was developed privately by Matra BAe Dynamics and fits into US research efforts into matching and countering similar Russian systems, whose advanced development startled western intelligence officials when it was revealed two years ago. Particularly worrying to British intelligence officials were reports that the IRA has discussed using a version of the Russian bomb that can be carried in a briefcase. The target, according to the London Daily Telegraph on Wednesday, was the City of London. A meltdown of unprotected computer electronics in the heart of one of the world's primary financial centers is one of Britain's worst nightmares. But almost equally-alluring to British Ministry of Defense officials was the prospect of using such a weapon themselves. Last summer they issued a summary of requirements to companies for "radio frequency munitions delivered by 155mm shell or rocket", without saying what they would use it for. US cruise missiles and bombs are believed to be earmarked for similar radio frequency devices, but this is the first time one has been designed for close-in artillery systems that are cheaper and less easily shot down. "It's being looked at for peacekeeping operations, perhaps for hostage situations where you want to knock out someone's mobile phones, computers, electronic security devices and so on," said a BAe Systems spokesman Thursday. The company's work on the system won the scientists a gold award for innovation from the BAe Systems chairman. The E-Bomb works by being fired from a long-range 155mm artillery gun or MLRS rocket launcher and then breaking open its outer casing over the target. The shell or rocket then unfolds its radio transmitter aerials and the transmitter sends a high powered radio pulse of billions of watts that lasts just a few nanoseconds. Just how effective it would be against a modern military force remains uncertain, however. British, American and other Nato equipment is significantly "ruggedized", encased in extra layers of protective materials compared to that of off-the-shelf commercial electronics. The result of an E-blast could be, therefore, that the enemy military has the only functioning communication systems while the civilian infrastructure, including power plants, manufacturing, hospitals and transportation, stops working. NATO's military has been hardening its electronic systems for many years, primarily as a defense against nuclear warfare. It has long been known that the electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) of a nuclear blast severely damages electronic equipment. Up to now, however, EMP has only been considered a peripheral concern of the far more devastating consequences of nuclear war, not as a weapon on its own. "The theory and strategy of active electronic warfare in non-nuclear situations has still to be determined," said one senior British officer. "We are still sorting out some of the lessons of the air campaign on Serbia last year. But this is the first I've heard of a practicable, useable design for the artillery. It certainly tends to open up the discussion a bit." A Ministry of Defence spokesman said there is no contract for the Matra BAe device, and there is no funding commitment to the futuristic project. The Matra BAe spokesman said it could be ten years before it is deployed. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
