[CTRL] Mexico Seeks Better Cuba Relations
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020204/ts/cuba_mexican_president_9.html Wow now if we keep an open border with Mexico we may get Communist Cubans coming up our country! -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Mexico Seeks Better Cuba Relations Cuba's Foreign Minister Roque Talks About Visit From Vicente Fox (AP) By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press Writer HAVANA (AP) - Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) met briefly with Cuban dissidents before wrapping up his first official visit Monday, a day after his administration assured the communist government it would not support a U.N. vote to condemn Cuba on human rights. The 20-minute encounter inside the Mexican Embassy took place before a breakfast with Fox and members of the Mexican community in Cuba. The small group of well-known opponents of Fidel Castro (news - web sites)'s government included human rights activist Elizardo Sanchez and journalist Raul Rivero. ``I hope that the fact that President Fox met with us signifies very clearly an acknowledgment of our struggle,'' said Sanchez of the non-governmental Cuban Commission for Human Rights and Reconciliation. Oswaldo Paya of Cuba's Christian Liberation Movement said the meeting was significant because Fox symbolizes ``democratic renovation in Mexico.'' Fox's victory in 2000 was hailed as a democratic advance, marking an end to the 71-year rule of Mexico's Institutional Revolutionary Party. The Mexican president and members of his government traveled to Cuba to strengthen ties with Castro's administration and to jump-start trade between the two nations. There was no immediate response from the Cuban government about the gathering. But Castro, who accompanied Fox during his tours in and around Havana on Sunday, was pointedly absent at the airport when the Mexican president arrived for his flight back home. Instead, Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque was on hand for the departure. The Cuban president was not scheduled to see Fox off, but he frequently escorts important visitors to the airport, especially when his meetings with them have been friendly. In the past, Cuba has been irritated when high-profile visitors have met with people it characterizes as ``counterrevolutionaries.'' But it also resents being named in the annual U.N. Human Rights Commission vote in Geneva and regularly accuses countries that join the vote of being manipulated by the United States. Perez Roque last year accused Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge Castaneda of trying to get Mexico delegates to join the U.N. condemnation. But after the two met Sunday, Castaneda said it was likely Mexico would abstain during the vote in April, as it did last year. ``The government of President Fox will not sponsor, nor co-sponsor, nor present any proposed resolution on the theme of Cuba or vote on the projects that others present,'' Castaneda said. That announcement restored some of Cuba's confidence in its relationship with Mexico. ``President Fox's visit is a message of independent will,'' Perez Roque said Sunday. ``Not the entire world dares to come and resist the pressures of the United States.'' With cries of ``Viva Fidel!'' and ``Viva Fox!'' shouted from balconies above, Castro escorted Fox along Old Havana's cobblestone streets Sunday. Castro said the visit was going ``well, very well'' as he accompanied Fox and his wife, Martha Sahagun, past centuries-old buildings. Earlier, Fox and Castro met privately and shared lunch at the Palace of the Revolution. Fox said relations between the two countries ``are warming up'' and ``growing deeper.'' ``A century of diplomatic relations symbolized the strong ties of fraternity that unite the people of Cuba and Mexico,'' Fox said during a speech in Old Havana honoring the city historian with Mexico's highest honor for a foreigner, the Aztec Eagle. ``The relationship between the two governments - tight, solid - has overcome the most difficult historic trials, thanks to the heartfelt friendship professed by our societies.'' Cuba long has counted on its friendship with Mexico, the only Latin American country that ignored U.S. pressure to break diplomatic ties after Castro's 1959 revolution. Today, Mexico ranks 10th among Cuba's foreign partners in combined trade and sixth in foreign investment. The last time a Mexican president visited Cuba was in 1999, when Ernesto Zedillo publicly aired his concerns about Cuba's human rights record at a regional summit meeting. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same
[CTRL] North Korea leads world in ballistic missile exports
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_8.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! North Korea leads world in ballistic missile exports SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, February 4, 2002 U.S. intelligence agencies have determined that the impoverished North Korea is the world's leading exporter of ballistic missiles. The assessment may have formed the basis for President George Bush's characterization of North Korea as part of the new axis of evil in his State of the Union address on Jan. 29. U.S. officials said Pyongyang has been offering its most advanced missiles to such regimes as Iran, Iraq, Libya and Syria. The officials said North Korea has managed to complete some sales despite the Washington-led war on terrorism, Middle East Newsline reported. North Korea is now the world's number one merchant for ballistic missiles, open for business with anyone, no matter how malign the buyer's intentions, U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said on Jan. 31. Ms. Rice said North Korea has rebuffed U.S. efforts to stop Pyongyang's missile sales. She said North Korea has not provided a serious response for an end to missiles sales as part of a reconciliation with Washington. Last week, the CIA said in a report that throughout the first half of 2001 North Korea continued to export significant ballistic missile related equipment, components, materials, and technical expertise to countries in the Middle East, South Asia, and North Africa. The United States has offered a roadmap for reciprocal steps that would enable North Korea to take a better course, Ms. Rice said in a speech in Washington on Thursday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. We've had no serious response from Pyongyang, she said. U.S. officials said North Korea's missile exports have not been affected by the U.S.-led war on terrorism. They said the Bush administration plans to increase monitoring of North Korea to help stop its missile sales to Middle East clients. I certainly hope that North Korea, for example, listens to what we suggested; and that is, they pull back some conventional weaponry to make a clear declaration of their peaceful intentions on the peninsula; and that they not export weapons, President Bush said on Feb. 1. We would be more than happy to enter a dialogue with them if that would be the case. In his State of the Union address, President Bush characterized the axis of evil as follows: North Korea, Iraq, Iran â some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September 11th. But we know their true nature. North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens. Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people's hope for freedom. Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens â leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections â then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world. States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic. Ms. Rice and other administration officials have cautioned that Mr. Bush's stark words did not necessarily mean that military action was imminent. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be
[CTRL] Turkish earthquake leaves at least 43 dead
-Caveat Lector- http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/04/turkey.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Turkish earthquake leaves at least 43 dead By Burhan Ozbilici, AP As funerals get under way, a Muslim imam leads prayers in front of of the mosque of Sultandagi, Turkey, on Monday. CAY, Turkey (AP) â Officials called off the search for survivors Monday as soldiers and aid workers raced to provide shelter and food for Turks left homeless by a quake that killed at least 43 people and damaged more than 600 buildings. A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they believed there were no more survivors or bodies left in the rubble of collapsed buildings in the central province of Afyon, where hundreds of people spent the night in tents or vehicles despite freezing temperatures. The government's crisis center put the death toll from Sunday's magnitude-6 earthquake in a poppy-growing region in central Turkey at 43, and said earlier reports that 45 people had died were based on inaccurate counting. Municipal vehicles with loudspeakers drove through the small town of Cay announcing the names of the dead, and the time and place of their funerals. At a funeral in the nearby town of Sultandag, local men formed two long lines and passed six coffins down a human corridor, before gently placing them in a hearse. Most of the buildings toppled by the temblor were old brick and mud houses, shoddily built shops or state-owned buildings. Health officials said more than 300 people were injured. Four mosques also collapsed, private television NTV reported. The quake, felt in cities up to 200 miles north and west of the epicenter, shook a nation where memories of people trapped in homes are still vivid after two massive quakes killed 18,000 people in the northwest in 1999. Badly constructed buildings were blamed for the large number of deaths in those quakes and some constructors have since been put on trial. The government, accused in the past of reacting too slowly to natural disasters, was sending over 20,000 blankets, 7,000 tents and more than 3,000 gas heaters to the region where Sunday's quake struck, Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said. The state is rushing to the aid of citizens who are suffering, Ecevit said Monday after a Cabinet meeting to discuss the quake. More than 600 buildings were damaged or destroyed, the government's disaster relief office said. With dozens of aftershocks rocking the region, officials warned people to stay clear of damaged buildings. In Cay, hundreds of people preferred to brave the cold and sleep outdoors or at a school used as a temporary hostel. I prefer not to go home, I feel safer outside, said Senol Gursel as he joined a line of some 400 people for a traditional Turkish breakfast of tea, bread and cheese. Gursel said he had slept in his car while his wife and children bedded down on carpets at the school. Our house is damaged, we spent the night outdoors and lit a fire to keep warm, it's all we could do, said Ibrahim Dogan, bringing his 3-year-old baby to Cay's state hospital early Monday. He said the baby had caught a chill in the bitter night cold. In Sultandagi, troops pitched tents in the market place, while many spent the night in cars parked well clear of buildings. The dead included an elderly couple â Huseyin Seker, 75, and his 73-year-old wife, Kezban â who were crushed at breakfast when a three-story building collapsed on their home. Sultandagi, near the epicenter, lies at the foot of the Sultan mountains, some 125 miles south of the capital, Ankara. In the summer, the area's dusty plains are carpeted by red poppies used to legally produce morphine derivatives used as painkillers. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] MURDER INC IN BEIRUT
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bigeye.com/foreignc.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! MURDER INC IN BEIRUT Copyright: Eric S. Margolis, 2001 January 27, 2002 Lebanese Christian warlord Elie Hobeika decided to go skin diving off Beirut last Thursday morning. As Hobeika and three bodyguards were driving away from apartment his villa in their Land Rover, a parked car packed with high explosives was detonated by remote control, instantly killing all four men, wounding six bystanders, and setting nearby buildings ablaze. The flawlessly executed murder bore all the signs of a `wet' operation by a professional intelligence organization. Two days earlier, Hobeika told visiting Belgian politicians he might soon be murdered. The reason: Hobeika was about to reveal new evidence at a Belgian trial about the massacres of Palestinian civilians at Sabra and Shatilla camps during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Hobeika, who had long been accused of a primary role in the slaughter, denied guilt and announced he would present dramatic new evidence that would prove his innocence and further implicate Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and others in the crime. Sharon is currently under investigation in a Belgian superior court for alleged crimes against humanity for the Lebanese massacres. This mysterious affaire began in 1982, when Lebanon was locked in civil war between Maronite Christians, Muslims, and the Palestine Liberation Organization, who had set up a mini-state in southern Lebanon. Israel's defense minister, Ariel Sharon, seized the excuse of the shooting of Israel's ambassador to London in September, 1982, by the Abu Nidal terror group, to invade Lebanon. Sharon assured Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and the US he only intended to stage a limited incursion into Lebanon to wipe out PLO `terrorists.' In fact, Sharon launched a full-scale invasion whose aim was to eradicate PLO, cement Israeli rule over the West Bank and Gaza, drive out Syrian forces, and turn Lebanon into an Israeli protectorate. Israeli troops besieged Beirut. Sharon's heavy artillery and warplanes pounded the capital for 40 days. An estimated 17,500 Lebanese and Palestinian civilians were killed by the Israeli invasion. Israel sent its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies - the Phalangists and Lebanese Forces- to `cleanse' the Palestinian refugee camps at Shatilla and Sabra. The Phalangists were founded in the 1930's by Pierre Gemayel as a Lebanese version of Mussolini's fascist blackshirts and had long dominated the nation's Muslim majority. Many of the anti-Muslim Lebanese Christians denied they were even Arabs, styling themselves `Phoenicians.' Israeli intelligence, Mossad, had armed and financed the Phalangists during much of the 1975-1990 Lebanese civil war. Elie Hobeika was a senior Phalangist commander and Mossad agent with a deserved reputation for savagery and murder. The US arranged a cease-fire between Israel and the PLO, and promised to protect Palestinian civilians after the withdrawal of PLO fighters to Tunisia. Soon after, Israel's principal Lebanese ally, Phalangist warlord Bashir Gemayel, was blown to bits by a bomb, likely planted by Syrian intelligence. On the evening of 16 September, Israeli troops surrounded the Palestinian refugee camps of Shatilla and Sabra. The Israeli command ordered - or at least allowed - Phalangist fighters to enter the undefended camps For the next 38 hours, the Phalangists, under the command of Hobeika, set about murdering Palestinian civilians - mostly women and children - with knives and grenades. Many women were gang raped before being killed; children's heads were smashed against walls; pregnant women were eviscerated. Israeli forces illuminated the scene with flares. Senior Israeli officers watched and did nothing, or even encouraged the killing. According to the Red Cross, at least 2,700 Palestinians were slaughtered. A week later, 400,000 outraged Israelis demonstrated, demanding a full investigation of the mass murder in Beirut. An Israeli government commission found Ariel Sharon `indirectly' but `personally responsible' for the massacre. Critics in Israel accused the government of a whitewash and called Sharon the `butcher of Beirut.' Sharon maintained his innocence, blaming Phalangists for the Beirut crimes, but was forced to resign. In 1993, Belgium empowered its courts to try citizens or foreigners for war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity committed anywhere. Twenty-three Palestinians and Lebanese charged Sharon with crimes against humanity for the 1982 Beirut massacres. The respected rights organization Amnesty International joined in, urging Sharon face a trial. The case has been winding its way through the Belgian legal system in spite of Israeli contentions that Belgium has no authority to try Sharon. In the next dramatic phase, due to begin in March, Elie Hobeika was to testify as the star witness.
[CTRL] Danes Dam Diversity
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe Danish government toughens laws for foreigners By Helmut Arens 5 February 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author Only 50 days after taking office, Denmarks new right-wing conservative governmenta minority coalition of Venstre (liberals) and the Conservative Peoples Party, supported by the extreme xenophobic Danish Peoples Party (DPP)has confirmed the worst fears about the new governments course. Following a crassly xenophobic campaign in the run-up to the electionsabove all, by Venstre and the DDPVenstres Bertel Haarder, the minister responsible for refugees, immigration and integration of foreigners, announced the tabling of a bill on January 17, which will result in a drastic deterioration of conditions for refugees and immigrants. The government is making no secret of its intention to limit the number of refugees entering Denmark and to sharpen demands that they support themselves without state support once in the country. Haarder made the econom ically motivated reasons for the governments course patently obvious when he said: These days foreigners are a burden on society. They cost more than they are worth to the country. That will have to change. In line with this, the government is also planning an easing of immigration policy in one respect. Through the introduction of a Green Card system for hand-picked immigrants, it is intent on buttressing Denmarks prosperi ty by bringing qualified foreign workers into the country. This led the German newspaper Taz to comment: Anyone who isnt a white, Christian computer expert with fluent Danish shouldnt bother to show his face. In particular, the following regulations are to be adopted: According to Haarders, a decisive means of reducing the number of asylum-seekers coming into the country will be the scrapping of the concept of a de facto refugee. Up until now many asylum-seekers, having no chance of gaining admittance to most other EU countries, have been granted entry into Denmark under this category. The governments 10-page white paper claims that this will constitute an essential and principled tightening of the conditions for the granting of asylum, which the government considers necessary. Measures will also be adopted to prevent refugees from becoming residents. Unlike previously, they will no longer receive permanent reside ncy after three years, but will normally have to return to their own country. In future, the right to permanent residency will only be granted after at least seven years. Moreover, refugees will be subject to travel restrictions. Whoever makes a visit to his former homeland runs the risk of being d eprived of his residency permit. The government also plans to make the process for acquiring Danish citizenship more difficult for foreigners. Obtaining citizenship will only be possible after eight years of uninterrupted residency. Further prerequisites include learning the Danish language and attending integration courses. On top of this, claims to social security will not be permitted. Rejected asylum-seekers are to be extradited within 24 hours, regardless of any legal challenge to the rejection order. Another important measure, viewed by numerous critics as an offence against international norms, is the proposal to allow married partners to be reunited in Denmark only when both are older than 24 years of age. A further condition prohibits any access to social support for such cases. Parents older than 60 will no longer be allowed to join their families living in the country. Welfare aid for refugees and immigrants is to be drastically reduced. Foreigners will have the right to claim full benefits only after seven years of residence. Labour Minister Claus Hjort Frederiksen defended this propos al as follows: Foreigners coming into Denmark should know from the very beginning that they are expected to find work. This is not the land of milk and honey where you can simply lie under a palm tree and enjoy life. The se new proposals should be an incentive for such people to accept even low-paid jobs. These remarks are particularly cynical in view of the fact that there is scarcely any labour market in Europe which is so thoroughly insulated against foreigners as in Denmark. Non-white youth with foreign sounding names, even if they have grown up in Denmark and speak fluent Danish, have virtually no chance of finding an apprenticeship or a job. Andreas Kam, general secretary of the Danish council for refugees, addressed another aspect of the governments policy. He pointed out that, if more people can be induced to take up jobs by cutting their social benefits, why should not the same conditions sooner or later be set for Danes? The government wants to aid its offensive against the fundamental democratic rights of immigrants and refugees by blocking its critics
[CTRL] Can You Imagine Such a Nation?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Can You Imagine Such a Nation? By Chuck Baldwin February 5, 2002 We hear much today about the American dream. By the American dream most people mean buying a big house, driving an expensive automobile, or accomplishing some great feat. However, this was not the dream envisioned by the Founding Fathers. Remember that, for the most part, America's founders gave up their material wealth and substance for something they considered of far greater worth. This hedonistic generation knows little of the kind of sacrificial spirit personified in the lives of America's patriarchs. In the minds of the founders, liberty, with all of its intrinsic risks, was more desirable than material prosperity if accompanied with despotism or collectivism. So strong was their desire that they were willing to give up the latter in order to procure the former for themselves and their posterity. How dare Americans today refer to material gain as the American dream! It is not! It is the freedom to honestly pursue one's goals that should be celebrated. Material gain is only a fruit of freedom, not its root. Furthermore, much of America's gain today is predicated upon dishonorable and even dishonest practices. We have become a nation of gamblers and socialists. We allow an unconstitutional tax system to tax our brains out. Rather than cast off a tyrannical tax system, however, we choose to cast away the noble virtue of industry and hard work (because government will wind up with most of it, anyway) in favor of receiving revenue from the labor and effort of others. It is called socialism, and most Americans today (including Christians) appear to fully embrace it. We expect government to fund our retirement, to reimburse our losses, and to even pay for our health care. What we cannot get from Uncle Sam, we expect from Lady Luck. Americans today want the fruit of freedom but seem unwilling to pay its purchase price. It was not always this way, however. Can you imagine a nation without an I.R.S.? Can you imagine a nation with little crime and where children were free to pray in schools? Can you imagine a nation where the father's income was able to adequately provide for his household? Can you imagine a country with low divorce rates and where virtually everyone with a high school diploma could both read and write and was capable of earning his or her way in society? Can you imagine a nation without an A.C.L.U. or a N.E.A.? Can you imagine a country that did not legally murder its own unborn children and that would not pander to sexual deviants and criminals? Can you imagine a country without legalized gambling? Can you imagine a nation with strong state governments and an unobtrusive federal government? Can you imagine a country where you could order a firearm through a catalog and where there was no such thing as a B.A.T.F.? Well, you might not be able to imagine such a country, but that was the kind of nation our founders dreamed about, fought for, and bequeathed to their posterity. Unfortunately, this generation of Americans seems willing to squander the sacrifice and repudiate the principles of its ancestors. With the way things are going, can you imagine what this nation will look like in another 50 years? *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[CTRL] Whadya say, Chuckie? Cheese?
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Chuck Had Gone
To Bat for Backer
By KENNETH R. BAZINET
Daily News Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON
wo months after Kenneth Lay, then the boss of Enron, held a Texas
fund-raiser for Chuck Schumer, the senator-elect asked for a review
of federal power contracts that eat into utility company profits.
Sen. Chuck Schumer announces commission to bring Super Bowl to New
York at Chelsea Piers yesterday.
A Schumer spokesman denied any quid pro quo, but Enron officials
praised the senator's action in 1998 and said his letter asking for
the review was a signal he was keeping a campaign promise to push for
energy deregulation.
Lay gave Schumer campaign cash during his 1998 Senate race against Alfonse D'Amato,
and held a breakfast fund-raiser for the Brooklyn Democrat on Oct. 14, 1998, the Daily
News has learned.
Shortly after winning the Senate race, Schumer, then a congressman, asked the Federal
Energy Regulatory Commission for a conference to review high-cost mandatory power
purchase contracts.
A Schumer spokesman denied he asked for the review because of the campaign
contributions.
Returned Cash
Sen. Schumer supported bringing competition into the power markets to bring down
electricity rates long before he ever heard of Enron, spokesman Bradley Tusk said.
But when Enron was wrong, Sen. Schumer didn't hesitate to oppose them, including
leading the fight against Enron's major legislative initiative to deregulate
electronic trading. He will continue to oppose them whenever t
hey are wrong.
Schumer recently donated the $68,857 in campaign contributions he received in the past
decade from Enron and its ousted auditor, Arthur Andersen, to a fund assisting
unemployed Enron workers.
Schumer is one of the most prominent Democrats to be tangled in the Enron probe. Most
of the Enron investigations have focused on the company's ties to the Bush
administration and Lay's friendship with the President.
Funds Favored GOP
Lay's endorsement of Schumer raised eyebrows among energy industry officials because
of Enron's history of writing checks to Republicans over Democrats by a 3-to-1 ratio
in the past decade.
Enron also gave D'Amato $13,000 in campaign contributions between 1996 and 1998.
Despite Schumer's relationship with Lay and the accounting industry, campaign finance
reform allies have praised him for working tirelessly behind the scenes to pass a
soft-money ban in the Senate. He's given money back
and we haven't asked that Schumer recuse himself, one campaign reform advocate said.
Key Role in Probe
Schumer sits on two Senate committees Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, as well as
Energy and Natural Resources that will play a key role in the investigations of
Enron and Arthur Andersen.
Watchdog groups, Senate sources and letters obtained by The News indicate Schumer has
worked on initiatives backed by both companies.
In 2000, Schumer co-sponsored energy deregulation legislation with Sen. Phil Gramm
(R-Tex.), whose wife, Wendy Gramm, is on the Enron board.
Schumer also signed a letter in July 2000 to then-Securities and Exchange Commission
Chairman Arthur Levitt calling upon the SEC to drop plans to change a rule that had
been under consideration.
The rule would have banned accounting firms such as Arthur Andersen from performing
both consulting and auditing duties for the same client. Gramm also signed that letter.
Supporters of that SEC rule change say it could have helped prevent
the Enron collapse from falling as far as it had.
Schumer has taken $386,000 from the accounting industry since 1995,
according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
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-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0177. DOD, AF unveil fiscal 2003 budget proposals by Staff Sgt. A.J. Bosker Air Force Print News WASHINGTON -- The president's fiscal 2003 budget proposal authorizes $379 billion for the Department of Defense to win the war against terrorism, defend America, improve the quality of life for men and women in uniform and accelerate the transformation of the military to counter 21st century threats, senior defense officials announced Feb. 1. The proposal includes $3 billion for counterterrorism, force protection and homeland security, senior defense officials said. It also includes $1.2 billion for continued air patrols over the United States and added funding for munitions, communications and other critical needs. The budget also addresses several quality-of-life improvements, including a 4.1-percent increase in military basic pay with possible additional targeted raises for midgrade officers and noncommissioned officers. It continues the campaign to eliminate out-of-pocket housing expenses, reducing overall costs from 11.3 percent to 7.5 percent this year. The budget also allocates $4.2 billion for family housing accounts to eliminate inadequate housing by 2007. The Air Force's portion of the budget, $87.2 billion, continues the service's investment in its people, maintains its prior gains in readiness and accelerates its air and space transformation, a senior Air Force budget official said. The budget is divided into four categories: people, operations and readiness, physical plant, and modernization and transformation. More than 34 percent, which is the largest portion of the Air Force budget, is geared toward Air Force people and improving their quality of life. These initiatives are important because the Air Force is a retention-based force, the senior budget official said. We recruit airmen but we retain families. The service has set aside $27.7 billion for pay and compensation, almost $1 billion for recruiting and retention initiatives and $1.5 billion to modernize 8,400 Air Force family housing units. The Air Force has dedicated 28 percent of its budget to its flying operations, combat training, space operations, base support and military training and education. The service has funded $10.9 billion for 2.1 million flying hours, overhauls for 369 airframes and 833 engines, and for spares, supplies, fuel and logistics support. The budget provides $487 million for combat training on 26 ranges and more than 170 exercises. Space operations received $1.6 billion to fund 50 space launches and the maintenance of two ranges and associated facilities. Overall base support functions received $6.1 billion for communications, operating support, child development and family support facilities, real property services and environmental projects. Professional military education, accessions and technical training programs received $905 million. The Air Force is taking an investment strategy with regards to its physical plant, dedicating $4.3 billion of its budget to sustaining its facilities, the senior budget official said. This enables the service to accommodate new missions, further improve quality of life, maintain its lead in environmental stewardship and optimize its use of public and private resources. As part of this strategy, the Air Force will be constructing 11 new dormitories and three fitness centers. The Air Force is spending 32 percent of its budget, more than $28 billion, on modernization and transformation of its forces to counter any future threats. This transformation combines stealth and advanced weapons with horizontally integrated surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities from manned and unmanned air and space assets, a senior budget official said. These capabilities will enable our war fighters to have the right information at the right place and right time, he said. It will allow us to strike any adversary, any place, any time, any weather, day or night. The Air Force budget also funds continued development of the Joint Strike Fighter and unmanned combat aerial vehicles as well as the procurement of: -- 23 F-22 Raptor aircraft and advance procurement of 27 more in fiscal 2004; -- 12 C-17 Globemaster IIIs; -- 35 T-6A Texan IIs; -- One E-8C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System aircraft; -- Three Global Hawks; -- 22 RQ-1 Predators; -- One wideband gapfiller satellite; and -- One evolved expendable launch vehicle. 0178. Rising gas prices pump up reimbursement rates by Staff Sgt. Amy Parr Air Force Print News WASHINGTON -- Thanks to rising gasoline prices, Defense Department travelers are seeing an increase in the amount they are reimbursed for each official mile driven. The reimbursable rate was increased 2 cents to 36.5 cents per mile, said Maj. Karen Corrente, Air Force travel, transportation and benefits policy chief at the Pentagon. The
[CTRL] Religious homophilia to wane ?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/035/metro/Catholics_stung_by_abuse_c ases_urge_reformP.shtml }}}Begin THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING Catholics, stung by abuse cases, urge reform By Michael Paulson, Globe Staff, 2/4/2002 Boston-area Catholics, reeling from the ouster of two more priests accused of sexual abuse of children, yesterday returned to church expressing a mixture of pain, anger, and disbelief. Some local Catholics have begun to talk about withholding money from the archdiocese, or trying to demand the resignation of Cardinal Bernard F. Law. Others are renewing the push for broad changes by calling for an end to the celibate male priesthood, or at least for a more candid discussion of sexuality in the church. Throughout the local church, Catholics say they are struggling to understand what is happening. ''There's no question about it - I have never been in so much pain, or so ill at ease, as with these revelations,'' said Raymond L. Flynn, the former mayor of Boston and US ambassador to the Vatican. ''I was at a wedding this weekend with 400 people, firefighters and police officers and people who aren't naive to problems in society, and we were all talking about this. The extent of the problem with pedophile priests is not something that we ever experienced or we ever imagined.'' Flynn, like other Catholics interviewed in recent days, said he is increasingly making a distinction between his faith in God, which he said remains intact, and his attitude toward the church hierarchy. ''I don't go to church because I pray to the priest or the bishop or the cardinal - I go to church because I pray to God to make me a better person,'' he said.'' The latest shock to local Catholics came Saturday, when the archdiocese announced that Law had removed the Rev. Daniel M. Graham, pastor of St. Joseph Church in Quincy, and the Rev. Paul J. Finegan, pastor of St. Bernadet te Church in Randolph, after uncovering past allegations of sexual misconduct toward minors by the two priests. The ousters came just days after the archdiocese turned over to area prosecutors the names of 38 priests accu sed of molesting children over the last 40 years, after the criminal conviction of former priest John J. Geoghan for indecent assault, and after the arrest of the Rev. Kelvin E. Iguabita on rape charges. In Quincy and Randolph yesterday, bishops attended Mass to offer explanations and counseling to parishioners, some of whom said they are having difficulty believing the charges. ''I can't see how anybody could say anything about this priest,'' said Jeannette Burns, a Dorchester resident who travels to Quincy to hear Graham's homilies. She accused the archdiocese of going on a ''witch hunt'' as it tries to uphold Law's promise that no priest accused of sexual abuse of a minor is holding a job in the archdiocese. ''This reminds me of the McCarthy hearings,'' Burns said. And in Randolph, parishioner Luders Georges, 64, said, ''I don't think it's true. To me, he's a good guy, and there are just people trying to get some money. This situation makes me feel sick.'' Others reacted differently. ''I was shocked,'' said Mary Galvan, in Quincy. ''Priests are human beings, but the sad part is that so much pain has been caused to so many families.'' Tallulah LesBordes, a 20-year-old Canton resident attending church in Randolph, said she was ''astonished'' by the allegations. ''I didn't think it would happen here,'' she said. ''He was a good priest. I never would have suspected anything. But my faith is still strong - I believe in God, and I don't think we should let this one incident affect o ur faith.'' The archdiocese was unable to provide details yesterday of the allegations against Graham and Finegan, including when the alleged abuse took place. ''Our hearts go out to the victims,'' said spokeswoman Donna M. Morrissey. ''This is a very tough time, and we're trying to do the best we can to provide support to the communities, and to make sure there's no one in mini stry who has an allegation of misconduct against them.'' In Randolph, Bishop Walter J. Edyvean told parishioners that ''these accusations are from the past, but necessitated the decisions that had to be taken.'' ''I know how stunned and saddened you are,'' Edyvean said. ''The archdiocese will see to it that pastoral support and counseling will be available to St. Bernadette's. Please trust you will not be left alone to face this moment in the parish's life.'' In Quincy, Bishop Richard J. Malone said, ''I know the pain I feel is nothing, nothing compared to what you're feeling... I am confident you will continue to stay unified. You can be sure a wonderful new pastor will come in here.'' A lawyer who represents many of Geoghan's victims said further steps are needed. ''Given the number of people who have been sexually molested by Father Geoghan, and the related coverup, I'm not
[CTRL] 4 February 2002 Federalist Edition #02-06
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! THE FEDERALIST(r) BRIEF The Conservative e-Journal of Record * Veritas Vos Liberabit * 4 February 2002 Federalist Edition #02-06 Monday Brief *To support The Federalist, Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp *To sponsor The Federalist, Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/sponsor.asp *To retrieve today's Brief as HTML printer-friendly text or PDF Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/current2002.asp *To change your e-mail address or format, see instructions in footer. __O__ THIS WEEK'S FEATURED SITE Wednesday, we celebrate Ronald Reagan's 91st birthday. In his honor, The Federalist launched Reagan2000.com, the Internet's most comprehensive resource on President Reagan's life and achievements, and a touchstone for all conservatives going forward. We invite you to explore Reagan2000.com and share the site with your friends and associates. Visit -- http://www.Reagan2000.com CONTENTS: The Foundation Insight Good News ICTUS Imprimis Family Culture Liberty Opinion in Brief Editorial Exegesis The Gipper Government On the Left Political Futures For the Record Policy Pages Reader Comments The Last Word __O__ THE FOUNDATION Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own. --James Madison __O__ INSIGHT Next to the right of liberty, the right of property is the most important individual right guaranteed by the Constitution and the one which, united with that of personal liberty, has contributed more to the growth of civilization than any other institution established by the human race. --William Howard Taft __O__ GOOD NEWS For the upright will inhabit the land, and men of integrity will remain in it; but the wicked will be cut off from the land, and the treacherous will be rooted out of it. (Proverbs 2:21-22) ++ Let your eyes look straight ahead, fix your gaze directly before you. Make level paths for your feet and take only ways that are firm. (Proverbs 4:25-26) ++ The good man out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil man out of his evil treasure produces evil; for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. (Jesus in Luke 6:45) ++ What causes wars, and what causes fightings among you? Is it not your passions that are at war in your members? You desire and do not have; so you kill. And you covet and cannot obtain; so you fight and wage war. You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. Unfaithful creatures! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. (James 4:1-4) __O__ ICTUS IMPRIMIS There are three points of doctrine the belief of which forms the foundation of all morality. The first is the existence of God; the second is the immortality of the human soul; and the third is a future state of rewards and punishments. Suppose it possible for a man to disbelieve either of these three articles of faith and that man will have no conscience, he will have no other law than that of the tiger or the shark. The laws of man may bind him in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise, virtuous, or happy. --John Quincy Adams __O__ FAMILY All human life should be valued and protected. That includes the health and lives of unborn children. Our nation's public health care agencies should not discriminate against pregnant women and their unborn children. We applaud President Bush and Secretary Thompson for setting right this past wrong and taking a significant step toward the president's goal of building a 'culture of life.' It would be shameful for pro-abortion advocates to oppose this policy for the sake of staking out political ground. Unborn children deserve the same health care benefits as all Americans. --Ken Connor __O__ CULTURE Those who say that all cultures are equal never explain why the results of those cultures are so grossly unequal. When some cultures have achieved much greater prosperity, better health, longer life, more advanced technology, more stable government, and greater personal safety than others, has all this been just coincidence? Moreover, people from other cultures are constantly migrating to these cultures, which fashionable dogmas say are no better than any other. --Thomas Sowell __O__ LIBERTY This latest affront to our sovereignty
[CTRL] 2002 Nobel War Prize
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it. It said, Trick or treat!!! to me. Is this another case of
Oslo failing again, but in another sense? AER
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Blair and Bush nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Fraser Nelson westminster editor
THE collapse of the Taleban was deemed enough reward for Tony Blair
and George Bushs robust Afghanistan campaign. But yesterday, they
received an unexpected extra: a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Harald Tom Nesvik, a right-wing Norwegian MP with Nobel prize
nomination rights, has put their names forward for the 2002 list.
He is arguing that the two Western leaders have demonstrated their
commitment to peace by making it abundantly clear they will not
tolerate terrorist attacks.
The background for my nomination is their decisive action against
terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest
threat to peace, Mr Nesvik said yesterday. Unfortunately, sometimes
you have to use force to secure peace.
The Oslo-based awards committee has been accepting nominations from 1
February.
However, Mr Blair and Mr Bush are nowhere near a shortlist. Last
year, 136 individuals and groups were nominated; this years count is
expected to exceed 160, with many nominees linked to 11 September and
its aftermath. The nomination would please Mr Blair, who argued
throughout that the bombing campaign was intended to lay the
foundations for lasting world peace.
Today, Gordon Brown, the Chancellor, will add to this theme by
spelling out a £50 billion aid package billed as a global new deal
which will share the Wests wealth with destitute countries and pre-
vent a resurgence of terrorism. In the last 40 years, the Nobel Peace
Prize has only come to the United Kingdom once - when David Trimble
and John Hume were recognised in 1998 for their work in the Northern
Ireland peace process.
Other laureates include Nelson Mandela and de FW Klerk, Mikhail
Gorbachev, Lech Walesa, Martin Luther King and Mother Teresa.
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-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! TZEMACH NEWS SERVICE ~ A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and the people of Israel. Week Ending: 2 February 2002/20 Shevat 5762 The L-rd is King forever and ever; Nations have perished from His Land. O L-rd, You have heard the desire of the humble; You will strengthen their heart, You will incline Your ear to vindicate the orphan and the oppressed, so that man who is of the earth will no longer cause terror. Psalm 10.16-18 This Week's Headlines: :: SHARON, PERES IN TALKS WITH PA/PLO :: JERUSALEM PLAN PASSES FIRST HURDLE :: BUSH, MUBARAK NOT HAPPY WITH ARAFAT :: MIRACLE IN JERUSALEM :: WAS GEORGE WASHINGTON A MURDERER AND A TERRORIST? :: EUROPE: DEFENSE IS OK, BUT NOT AT OUR EXPENSE :: A 'UNITED NATIONS OF MAJOR RELIGIONS' :: FIRST FEMALE SUICIDE BOMBER COMES FORTH :: 'KARINE A' FINANCIED BY SAUDI ARABIANS? :: INTIFADA MOVING TO MORE DEADLY PHASE :: HIZB'ALLAH AGAIN FIRES INTO ISRAELI AIRSPACE3 :: SYRIA MAY BE SEEKING TO UPGRADE MILITARY :: AL-QAIDA MOVING TO LEBANON? :: MIDDLE EAST HOURGLASS :: SHARON, PERES IN TALKS WITH PA/PLO: Prime Minister Ariel Sharon met Wednesday night with senior Palestinian Authority officials, the first such meeting since his election a year ago. The meeting at Sharon's Jerusalem residence included Palestinian Legislative Council Speaker Ahmed Qurei, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat's unofficial deputy Mahmoud Abbas, and Arafat's top financial adviser, Muhammad Rashid. According to an official, the Palestinians called on Sharon to end targeted killings, stop IDF [Israel Defense Force] incursions into Area A, lift the closures and blockades around Palestinian-occupied cities, and let Arafat leave Ram'Allah. Sharon reportedly replied that these steps would be taken if Arafat takes the following actions: arrests and interrogates terrorists, including those who killed tourism minister Rehavam Ze'evi; takes preventive measures against terrorism; dismantles Hamas and Islamic Jihad; confiscates illegal weapons; and stops incitement against Israel. Also present at the three-hour meeting were the prime minister's son, Omri Sharon, and Brig.-Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky, the defense minister's military aide. Sharon has been invited to meet with US President George W. Bush in the White House on 7 February. Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres met with Palestinian Legislative Council Speaker and top PA/PLO negotiator Ahmed Qureia (Abu Ala) on Friday in New York, following an earlier meeting with US Secretary of State Colin Powell, in which the foreign minister presented his plan, in an effort to garner US backing. Peres and Abu Ala are continuing to formulate a cease-fire declaration and are discussing the establishment of a Palestinian state recognized by Israel and with whom Israel would negotiate to reach a final status agreement. According to ARMY RADIO, the plan includes the immediate establishment of a Palestinian state on 42 percent of Yesha [Judea, Samaria, and Gaza] and future talks on the division of Jerusalem, Palestinian refugees and other issues. In an interview published in MA'ARIV on Friday, Sharon said the published plan is not to his liking. At the same time, he said that in the final analysis, there will be a Palestinian state. It will be demilitarized with a police force to ensure public order, Sharon said of this state. It will have to be dismantled of the weapons it now has, but a Palestinian state will be established in the end. I am willing to make painful compromises. I am willing to give up parts of Eretz Yisrael, and that is a painful compromise. On that day the L-rd made a covenant with Abram, saying, To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates [Genesis 15.18]; I will fix your boundary from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the River Euphrates; for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you will drive them out before you [Exodus 23.31] :: JERUSALEM PLAN PASSES FIRST HURDLE: PM Sharon approved in principle Tuesday a plan submitted by Public Security Minister Uzi Landau and Police Chief Shlomo Aharonishki to physically separate Jerusalem from neighboring PLO-occupied areas. The program, strongly endorsed by the police, calls for 54 kilometers [33.5 miles] of physical obstacles around the city, including 11 kilometers [7 miles] of fences and a wall in the southern areas of the city. The wall would run from Gilo to Har Homa. Other features of the partition include ditches, fences, barriers, and observation points equipped with cameras and night-vision equipment. Five additional Border Guard companies will be enlisted to patrol the various areas, and Arabs would be able to cross from one side of the city to the other only through designated crossing points.
[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: February 3, 2002
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CONGRESS ACTION: February 3, 2002 = GENEVA CONVENTION: The hysteria over the alleged rights of the terrorists being held in custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has reached absurd proportions. The most stupidly simplistic analysis goes like this: we are at war, the terrorists were taken prisoner during the war, therefore the terrorists are Prisoners of War, and prisoners of war are entitled to certain rights under the Geneva Convention. If the people making that argument (those from the my mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts school of non-thought) would take the simple step of actually reading the document that they want to invoke, the Geneva Convention, they might have some second thoughts. And they might also discover something else -- that they really don't want to apply the Geneva Convention to the terrorists after all. Or at least, they would want to treat the Geneva Convention in the same way many of them try to treat the United States Constitution, that is, selectively applying only those clauses that suit their agenda, ignoring those that they don't like. A Prisoner of War is what's known as a term of art -- it has a specific legal definition, in this case contained in Article 4 of the Geneva Convention, the relevant portions of which read: Article 4 A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy: 1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces. 2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions: (a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) That of carrying arms openly; (d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. Despite the fact that al Qaeda terrorists clearly do not fall within any of these definitions of Prisoner of War, the rights crowd suggests that there remains some doubt, and thus a competent tribunal should determine their status: Article 5: Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal. If the detainees are granted the official status of Prisoners of War, several consequences would flow from that status. Perhaps the most important, and the reason why those who are concerned with the national security of this country resist the POW classification, is contained in Article 17. According to those charged with safeguarding our national security, the terrorists in custody are giving up information that is helping to thwart additional terrorist attacks. That flow of information would cease if they officially became POWs: Article 17: Every prisoner of war, when questioned on the subject, is bound to give only his surname, first names and rank, date of birth, and army, regimental, personal or serial number, or failing this, equivalent information. There are additional consequences that would follow the classification of the detainees as POWs. For one thing, all of the gawking media would have to be immediately sent packing. The media is constantly at odds with the Pentagon over what media types claim is unnecessary (in their own expert military judgment) military secrecy. How would they all like to be kicked out of Guantanamo entirely, as would be required by the Geneva Convention?: Article 13: .prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly.against.public curiosity. Then there are gender complications. Our military contains women soldiers, some of whom, it has been reported, are guards at Guantanamo. Given what has been reported about the utter subservience of women in pre-war Afghanistan, it is clear that those women soldiers would have to go, squawks from radical feminists notwithstanding: Article 14: Prisoners of war are entitled in all circumstances to respect for their persons and their honour. . The Detaining Power may not restrict the exercise, either within or without its own territory, of the rights such capacity confers except in so far as the captivity requires. The tobacco Nazis around the world would also have reason to complain about the Geneva Convention: Article 26: The use of tobacco
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Issue: 02/25/02
On Dope Row (part 3): Statistics and Response
The charts to the right represent the findings of Insight's state-
prison survey. To view one, simply click on the icon above the
corresponding description.
Whenever an overdose is mentioned, it refers to one that resulted in
the death of an inmate. All population, urinalysis and unexplained
death data is from the CJI Yearbook. To view the methodology of this
study, see the sidebar in part 2 of On Dope Row.
Chart 1: This is a list of how many fatal overdoses (total and per
year) occured in each state.
Chart 2: This shows how many unexplained deaths occurred in each
prison. Unexplained deaths are categorized as overdoses by federal
prisons, but not by private or state facilities.
Chart 3: This contains several top 10 lists and other findings such
as which states did not have the information Insight requested and
which claimed to have no fatal overdoses in the last decade. (There
is a mistake in the top 10 list of total fatal overdoses. Maryland
and Missouri both had only 12 between 1990-2000).
Chart 4: This lists the average rate of fatal overdoses for each
state- prison system.
Chart 5: This is the major list of the information sent to Insight by the state-prison
systems.
Chart 6 (see below): Ranking of states for rate and total overdoses. This shows which
states had the hightest average rates of fatal overdoses and also shows which states
had the highest total fatal overdoses.
Ranking of States for Average Rate of Overdose D-denied information X-did not have
information N-none for the category State Rankings of Fatal Overdose Rates (20=best;
1=worst) Alabama X Alaska 5 Arizona 11 Arkansas N Cal
ifornia 12 Colorado N Connecticut N Delaware D District of Columbia D Florida 20
Georgia 13 Hawaii 7 Idaho N Illinois N Indiana 13 Iowa N Kansas 18 Kentucky N
Louisiana X Maine N Maryland 1 Massachusetts N Michigan 19 Min
nesota N Mississippi N Missouri 6 Montana N Nebraska X Nevada 4 New Hampshire X New
Jersey 14 New Mexico N New York 15 North Carolina X North Dakota N Ohio 16 Oklahoma N
Oregon 8 Pennsylvania 9 Rhode Island 3 South Caroli
na 10 South Dakota 2 Tennessee 19 Texas 17 Utah X Vermont N Virginia X Washington X
West Virginia X Wisconsin N Wyoming N State Total Overdose Rank (13=best; 1=worst)
Alabama X Alaska 12 Arizona 10 Arkansas N California 2
Colorado N Connecticut N Delaware D District of Columbia D Florida 13 Georgia 7
Hawaii 11 Idaho N Illinois N Indiana 9 Iowa N Kansas 13 Kentucky N Louisiana X Maine N
Maryland 4 Massachusetts N Michigan 11 Minnesota N Mi
ssissippi N Missouri 4 Montana N Nebraska X Nevada 5 New Hampshire X New Jersey 10 New
Mexico N New York 6 North Carolina 10 North Dakota N Ohio 8 Oklahoma N Oregon 9
Pennsylvania 3 Rhode Island 12 South Carolina 7 South
Dakota 11 Tennessee 13 Texas 1 Utah X Vermont N Virginia X Washington X West Virginia
X Wisconsin N Wyoming N
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not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not
believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men.
Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it
agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all.
Then accept it and live up to it.
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[CTRL] Proclamations of the King -- Good Letter
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Proclamations of the King I guess I must be living on another planet than Vice- President Richard Cheney because the number of Executive Orders or Proclamations of the King as I prefer to call them seems to have increased over the recent years. To date, President Bush has made 56 of these proclamations in just over a years time, everything from designating Afghanistan as a combat zone to the Presidents Council on the 21st Century Workforce. So he is currently on pace for a number around 224 over a 4 year period. President Clinton made 364 over his years in office. George Bush made 166. Ronald Reagan made 381. Jimmy Carter made 320. Gerald Ford made 169. Richard Nixon made 346. LBJ made 324. JFK made 214. Dwight D. Eisenhower made 486. Harry Truman made 896. FDR made 3728. Herbert Hoover made 1011. (Source: National Archives and Records Administration, Federal Register, Executive Orders Disposition Tables; January 9, 1939-January 16, 2002) While it does appear that the number of EO's has decreased since the days of Truman, I would suggest that so many has been made already that the need for even more surely must be nearing it's limit. But no. It is easily discerned by our VP's line of thinking that even more government control, especially by the Executive Branch is needed to control the people. I strongly disagree. As Reported by Robert Novak at townhall.com, Jan 26, 2002: Ardent right-wingers who attend the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington Thursday through Saturday will not hear from Vice President Dick Cheney or Attorney General John Ashcroft. Both were listed as speakers in CPAC's advertisements, but neither will come. snip... Vice President Dick Cheney, usually silent at the weekly luncheons of Republican senators, spoke up last Wednesday to plea with them not to criticize his refusal to make public the secret records of his energy task force. Requesting time at the luncheon to say a few words, Cheney said he had in the course of his long government career seen a steady deterioration of presidential power. (emphasis mine)That's why he was so determined to fight congressional demands regarding the task force. Scott Chaney Muncie, Indiana *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cahnge Link Fence
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/fahey1.html }}}Begin The Bell Tolls for FreeRepublic.com by Todd Brendan Fahey On Monday, February 11, the 9th District Circuit Court of Appeals, Washington D.C., will convene to hear oral arguments in re: Washington Post and Los Angeles Times v. FreeRepublic.com LLC (a limited liability corporation), in what is perhaps the most important 1st amendment case of the new millennium. At issue is the propensity of FreeRepublic.com and its owner, Jim Robinson, to allow the posting of whole-length articles from news organizations nationwide a policy the Post and Times, respectively, assert infringe upon the intellectual property rights of both the news corporations and of individual writers. At stake is a tort complaint of $1,000,000 lodged against Mr. Robinson, and the very future of FreeRepublic.com. The Supreme Court recently refused FreeRepublic.com's writ of certiorari, effectively denying any hope that the nation's highest court will hear the case, following a judgement for the plaintiff by the 9th District Court; FR's claim was also denied a mediation hearing. In simple terms, a judgement against FreeRepublic.com in the coming months will spell an Error 404 message for a Web site that is credited by many news organizations as ushering in President George W. Bush over Al Gore. Mr. Robinson's defense rests on his claim that Free Republic operates under Fair Use provisions of the copyright law, as an educational resource. Attorney Brian Buckley, for FreeRepublic.com, offered to a lower court that, The political views expressed by the majority of participants are congruent with the goal of rooting out corruption in government, though no censorship is made and all views are permitted. (Emphasis added) Further, Mr. Buckley presented to the U.S. District Court, Central District of California: Defendant Free Republic (freerepublic.com) is a not-for- profit politically-conservative internet web site begun as a hobby by defendant Jim Robinson (Robinson), a disabled wheel-chair bound victim of Muscular Dystrophy. Free Republic is a bulletin board type of internet site which allows visitors to the site to post articles and commentary to the site which can be read and commented upon by other visitors to the site. Robinson created Free Republic in 1996 out of shear frustration. He was dissatisfied with the current Presidential administration (the Clinton Administration) and with the mainstream media coverage of its policies and activities. Robinson was frustrated with the inability on other internet sites and alternative forums to engage in a completely free and open discussion of news and politics especially by dissenters to the current Presidential Administration's policies and activities and dissenters to the mainstream media coverage of same. Before creating Free Republic, Robinson frequented other internet discussion sites and was frustrated by their censorship and restrictions on free statement of ideas. Already in the computer consulting business, Robinson saw the need to create an alternative forum which would allow open discussion of news and politics and allow open discussion of the mainstream media coverage of same. Thus was born Free Republic. (Emphasis added) (Verbatim transcript of FR's unsuccessful lower-court ruling.) http://www.techlawjournal.com/courts/freerep/19991018mem.htm For many months, FreeRepublic served as an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America (front page mission statement). Lately, however dating back to the GOP primary Presidential campaigns it appears to many that the independent, grassroots conservatism emphasis has been replaced by a rank-and-file boostership for the Republican National Committee and all that President Bush sees fit to offer for the nation an increasingly liberal (Big Government) vision, in the eyes of many grassroots conservatives. To wit: Posters last month, attempting to bring to light nefarious events relative to the CIA's MK-Ultra mind control experiments, and also the galling push of certain members of the Bush cabinet to usher in a National I.D. card, were rebuffed wholesale by Mr. Robinson. Threads were pulled summarily, and those posting the articles saw their accounts banned instantly. Mr. Robinson offered the following explanations: Lots of grumbling lately about deleted posts. Well, my friends, the simple truth is the game has changed. We are now at war. We have been attacked by a vicious cold-blooded force of international terrorists who want to de stroy our nation, our freedom and our way of life. There is no doubt about this. Knowing this, I am alarmed to read some of the stuff that has been posted to FR in the last few days. This is not the time to raise doubts a bout
[CTRL] Free energy suppression
-Caveat Lector- http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/lindemnn.htm Spirit of Ma'at: Free Energy Alternative Energy - Part I - Vol 2 February 2002 The World of Free Energy by Peter Lindemann, D. Sc. In the late 1880s, trade journals in the electrical sciences were predicting free electricity in the near future. Incredible discoveries about the nature of electricity were becoming commonplace. Nikola Tesla was demonstrating wireless lighting and other wonders associated with high frequency currents. There was an excitement about the future like never before. Within 20 years, there would be automobiles, airplanes, movies, recorded music, telephones, radio, and practical cameras. The Victorian Age was giving way to something totally new. For the first time in history, common people were encouraged to envision a utopian future, filled with abundant modern transportation and communication, as well as jobs, housing, and food for everyone. Disease would be conquered, and so would poverty. Life was getting better, and this time, everyone was going to get a piece of the pie. So, what happened? In the midst of this technological explosion, where did the energy breakthroughs go? Was this excitement about free electricity, which happened just before the beginning of the last century, all just wishful thinking that real science eventually disproved? Current State of Technology Actually, the answer to that question is no. In fact, the opposite is true. Spectacular energy technologies were developed right along with the other breakthroughs. Since that time, multiple methods for producing vast amounts of energy at extremely low cost have been developed. But none of these technologies has made it to the open consumer market as an article of commerce. Exactly why this is true will be discussed shortly. But first, I would like to describe to you a short list of free energy technologies that I am currently aware of, and that are proven beyond all reasonable doubt. The common feature connecting all of these discoveries is that they use a small amount of one form of energy to control or release a large amount of a different kind of energy. Many of them, in some way, tap the underlying ether field: a source of energy conveniently ignored by modern science. Radiant Energy Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on radiant energy. This natural energy form can be gathered directly from the environment (mistakenly called static electricity) or extracted from ordinary electricity by the method called fractionation. Radiant energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1 percent of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it. The Methernitha community in Switzerland currently has five or six working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy (see our Methernitha article elsewhere in this issue). Permanent Magnets Dr. Robert Adams of New Zealand has developed astounding designs of electric motors, generators, and heaters that run on permanent magnets. One such device draws 100 watts of electricity from the source, generates 100 watts to recharge the source, and produces over 140 BTU's of heat in two minutes! Dr. Tom Bearden of the United States has two working models of a permanent magnet-powered electrical transformer. It uses a 6-Watt electrical input to control the path of a magnetic field coming out of a permanent magnet. By channeling the magnetic field, first to one output coil and then a second output coil, and by doing this repeatedly and rapidly in a ping-pong fashion, the device can produce a 96-Watt electrical output with no moving parts. Bearden calls his device a Motionless Electromagnetic Generator, or MEG. Jean-Louis Naudin has duplicated Bearden's device in France. The principles for this type of device were first disclosed by Frank Richardson of the United States in 1978. Troy Reed, also of the United States, has working models of a special magnetized fan that heats up as it spins. It takes exactly the same amount of energy to spin the fan whether it is generating heat or not. Beyond these developments, multiple inventors have identified working mechanisms that produce motor torque from permanent magnets alone. Mechanical Heaters There are two classes of machines that transform a small amount of mechanical energy into a large amount of heat. The best of these purely mechanical designs are the rotating cylinder systems designed by Frenette and Perkins of the United States. In these machines, one cylinder is rotated within another cylinder with about an eighth of an inch clearance between them. The space between the cylinders is filled with a liquid, such as water or oil, and it is this working fluid that heats up as the inner cylinder spins.
Re: [CTRL] House Panel: Whereabouts of Enron's Lay a Mystery
-Caveat Lector- How long do ya think it will be before Lay turns up suicided? --- Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: House Panel: Whereabouts of Enron's Lay a Mystery __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kidnapped or Hoax or Holdup?
Remember Pattie Hearst and the Symbionese Liberation Army - their 7 Headed Snake Symbol? The date was February 5 and from this date I concluded then, the conspiracy was connected to something a little different than we were lead to think. So I got out my bible calendar and noted the upper top page of the calendar was Law of Kidnapping and based on this and other tracks concluded it was part of the big picture - little Pattie presumably was a Rosicrucian, the Democrat Convention in 1968 was in part destroyed by the Rosicrucians out of Quakerstown, PA, who wanted to loose scorpians which some call Fiery Flying Serpent symbol because their sting of death (for the sting can be fatal) burns like fire, it is said. So we have this Wall Street Journal Reporter, and I hope I am right here, that the whole thing is a hoax, a hold up and has nothing to do with this Taliban.. So here is reading for date of Pattie Hearst kidnapping so long ago and this Wall Street Journal Reporter. Today the wife who was smiling and laughing and dressed fit to kill the first time on TV, no longer looked so smiling but OFFERED TO TRADE HER LIFE FOR HIS. Now in the Past didn't the Pope offer once to trade his life for the life of a kidnapped General in Rome who was found in a TENT a virtual canopied bed area in a room in Rome? JFK once said well if anyone wants to trade their life for mine it would be easy - it would take just a man in a tall building with a rifle. Somebody is playing games? Kids with computers sending phoney messages in Pakistant, a country we have always been led to believe is a backward somewhat deprived country? LAW OF KIDNAPPING - Scheduled Reading was Date of Pattie Hearst Kidnapping and the ALLEGED Kidnapping of this Dany Perl - advanced search Scriptures for KIDNAPPING [Scriptures] [Definitions] [Commentaries] [Quotations] 'Exod 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.' 'Exod 21:16 ''He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death.' (Exod 21 set for reading date Pearl and Pattie Hearst kidnapped) 'Deut 24:7 ''If a man is caught kidnapping any of his countrymen of the sons of Israel, and he deals with him violently or sells him, then that thief shall die; so you shall purge the evil from among you.' (Deut. 24 is set for reading Feb. 19-20. This page was loaded 14 time(s) Time of last database update: February, 26, 2001 13:17:30 Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (Just tossed this is and I do not know why) Now the Story of Benahad in the bible, re the Sons of the Prophet - ends with this note about the your life for his life bit, but also plays in the overall scenario as to what is going on today even to the remark they looked to see if anything would come from him, is where a secret signal is given. Remember this criminal element wants this man released from prison? His life for Danny's Life? 42: And he said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Because thou hast let go out of thy hand a man whom I appointed to utter destruction, therefore thy life shall go for his life, and thy people for his people. This is key factor and masonic stuff..and I am no god damned gypsy I do not make predictions but I do believe one picks up pictures and thoughts of others in dreams.color dreams. Certain drugs induce states of psychic awareness. Based on this calendar - let us say youpick up scenarios - get the picture? Danny Perl presumably is Jewish and these areas the Wall Street Journal sends him in for what and why? It is said he is a Mossad Agent, it is said he was CIA and reporters are often connected - for Pattie Hearts my old MI6 friend told me, she was CIA.her family and newspapers CIA connected. So parallel lines here equate - why the blue background re Danny Pearl's picture - and the oh so clean white attire of a figure holding the gun. So the wife, who first time on TV who is pregnant we are told over, who was smiling and lipsticked up and dressed now has toned down her decorum and appearance. Pretty sure when the Pope offered to trade his life for life of this kidnapped man in Rome many years ago held in a canopied bed or tent in a room - a house to house search found himbut it could be they are communicating using this bible calendar - for this is not number system coded thing like this guy tried to pass off - you use key phrases and words - watchword bible calendar. So it looks to me the same people who pulled off a lot of stuff including Twin Towers might be behind this and this would mean an intelligence factor - masonic stuff, but have show no colors yet - the chameleon does not show red white or blue? Note last few verses here - see the cable tow about the neck and this is a real laugh, drink, and be merry scenario? The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia
Re: [CTRL] MURDER INC IN BEIRUT
-Caveat Lector- FYI http://www.bigeye.com/foreignc.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! MURDER INC IN BEIRUT Copyright: Eric S. Margolis, 2001 January 27, 2002 Lebanese Christian warlord Elie Hobeika decided to go skin diving off Beirut last Thursday morning. As Hobeika and three bodyguards were driving away from apartment his villa in their Land Rover, a parked car packed with high explosives was detonated by remote control, instantly killing all four men, wounding six bystanders, and setting nearby buildings ablaze. The flawlessly executed murder bore all the signs of a `wet' operation by a professional intelligence organization. Two days earlier, Hobeika told visiting Belgian politicians he might soon be murdered. The reason: Hobeika was about to reveal new evidence at a Belgian trial about the massacres of Palestinian civilians at Sabra and Shatilla camps during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Hobeika, who had long been accused of a primary role in the slaughter, denied guilt and announced he would present dramatic new evidence that would prove his innocence and further implicate Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and others in the crime. Sharon is currently under investigation in a Belgian superior court for alleged crimes against humanity for the Lebanese massacres. This mysterious affaire began in 1982, when Lebanon was locked in civil war between Maronite Christians, Muslims, and the Palestine Liberation Organization, who had set up a mini-state in southern Lebanon. Israel's defense minister, Ariel Sharon, seized the excuse of the shooting of Israel's ambassador to London in September, 1982, by the Abu Nidal terror group, to invade Lebanon. Sharon assured Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and the US he only intended to stage a limited incursion into Lebanon to wipe out PLO `terrorists.' In fact, Sharon launched a full-scale invasion whose aim was to eradicate PLO, cement Israeli rule over the West Bank and Gaza, drive out Syrian forces, and turn Lebanon into an Israeli protectorate. Israeli troops besieged Beirut. Sharon's heavy artillery and warplanes pounded the capital for 40 days. An estimated 17,500 Lebanese and Palestinian civilians were killed by the Israeli invasion. Israel sent its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies - the Phalangists and Lebanese Forces- to `cleanse' the Palestinian refugee camps at Shatilla and Sabra. The Phalangists were founded in the 1930's by Pierre Gemayel as a Lebanese version of Mussolini's fascist blackshirts and had long dominated the nation's Muslim majority. Many of the anti-Muslim Lebanese Christians denied they were even Arabs, styling themselves `Phoenicians.' Israeli intelligence, Mossad, had armed and financed the Phalangists during much of the 1975-1990 Lebanese civil war. Elie Hobeika was a senior Phalangist commander and Mossad agent with a deserved reputation for savagery and murder. The US arranged a cease-fire between Israel and the PLO, and promised to protect Palestinian civilians after the withdrawal of PLO fighters to Tunisia. Soon after, Israel's principal Lebanese ally, Phalangist warlord Bashir Gemayel, was blown to bits by a bomb, likely planted by Syrian intelligence. On the evening of 16 September, Israeli troops surrounded the Palestinian refugee camps of Shatilla and Sabra. The Israeli command ordered - or at least allowed - Phalangist fighters to enter the undefended camps For the next 38 hours, the Phalangists, under the command of Hobeika, set about murdering Palestinian civilians - mostly women and children - with knives and grenades. Many women were gang raped before being killed; children's heads were smashed against walls; pregnant women were eviscerated. Israeli forces illuminated the scene with flares. Senior Israeli officers watched and did nothing, or even encouraged the killing. According to the Red Cross, at least 2,700 Palestinians were slaughtered. A week later, 400,000 outraged Israelis demonstrated, demanding a full investigation of the mass murder in Beirut. An Israeli government commission found Ariel Sharon `indirectly' but `personally responsible' for the massacre. Critics in Israel accused the government of a whitewash and called Sharon the `butcher of Beirut.' Sharon maintained his innocence, blaming Phalangists for the Beirut crimes, but was forced to resign. In 1993, Belgium empowered its courts to try citizens or foreigners for war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity committed anywhere. Twenty-three Palestinians and Lebanese charged Sharon with crimes against humanity for the 1982 Beirut massacres. The respected rights organization Amnesty International joined in, urging Sharon face a trial. The case has been winding its way through the Belgian legal system in spite of Israeli contentions that Belgium has no authority to try Sharon. In the next
[CTRL] Fwd: Tom Bearden recommendation (while supplies last)
---BeginMessage--- ---BeginMessage--- PLEASE CIRCULATE WIDELY In late 1999 Hal Fox, with his Journal of New Energy, did a most marvelous thing for the struggling scientists of the AIAS. He published in one special issue some 60 of these papers. He still has some of that issue of the journal available, and has cut the price down from $45 to $25 to try to close them out. He operates on a minimal budget and it would be most helpful to him. He has also published many of my papers, very graciously. I'd also like to highly recommend the Journal of New Energy as a must journal for anyone interested in energy from the vacuum to subscribe to. Many thanks for the consideration, Tom PS Hal Fox's contact details are in the attached file. His email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIAS Special Issue - table of contents.doc Description: MS-Word document ---End Message--- ---End Message---
[CTRL] The Gemstone File of Bruce Roberts
-Caveat Lector- http://gemstone-file.com/ The Gemstone File of Bruce Roberts Onassis, Howard Hughes, JFK, RFK, MLK, Teddy, Jackie, Dickie, Nader, Mary Jo, and the CIA/Mafia/Big Business Take-over of the U.S.A. in 1963 20th Century History for Grown-Ups A searing description of U.S. history from the 1920's to 1975 -Stephanie Caruana, Editor FEATURING 3 Killers and a Patsy Johnny Roselli: got paid $250,000 Eugene Brading: got paid ??? Jimmy Fratianno: got paid $250,000 Lee Harvey Oswald: got shot immediately This History-making Assassination brought to you by that Past Master of Human Disaster... that Monster of Murder and Money-Making Aristotle Onassis Carlos Marcello, Mafia ruler of Louisiana, helped supply the shooters. ARISTOTLE ONASSIS Roberts: A Mafia dictum: If a guy welches on a deal, kill him, and take his gun and his girl. In this case, Jackie and the Pentagon. Robert A. Maheu, Onassis's contractor, a/k/a/ IBM for Iron Bob Maheu, still thriving in Las Vegas. He's somebody's grandfather, too! Home CDROM Contents of CDROM Book of Excerpts Brading at Dallas Skeleton Key Updated Part 1 Skeleton Key Updated Part 2 Links Masterpiece of Chaos painting: Mathias Grunewald, detail: Temptation of St. Anthony All contents Copyright (c) 2001,2002 by Stephanie Caruana Gemstone on: Eugene Brading at Dallas and Elsewhere NOVEMBER 2001 [A monthly feature: Quotes from Gemstone papers and the Skeleton Key] Quotes from Roberts' Gemstone papers: [Antonio Iglesias was one of the CIA-Cuban mob involved in the Bay of Pigs Operation. Bruce Roberts told me he was also present at the JFK assassination in Dealey Plaza, with a camera, taking photos. Some of the photos were of Eugene Brading; one showed him stuffing his rifle under his coat after shooting at JFK. I have included one photo here showing Brading in his X-marked leather sombrero. The larger photo of which this picture is a small part, shows in the top left-hand corner the right-hand corner of the pergola, so it is possible that Brading had just emerged from the pergola, after ditching his gun with his back-up man, before his stroll up to the Dal-Tex Building.--sc] Roberts, talking about the double-stamping of 400 dimes at the Denver Mint, at the moment Kennedy was shot, by a Denver Mint die operator: Two, from his DenverBrading and Fratianno, from the Denver Smaldones Mafia familyhad just blown Kennedy's brains out. Brading was photographed at the scene with a gun. Roselli, from Cohen, was the third shooter. Oswald hit his targetConnally. Albert Harris, of the California State Crime Commission, was one of those watching those 1963 events. Including those coins, and my father. A year after Dallas, all watched Alioto pay off Fratianno, from his San Francisco First National Bank, for Fratianno's Dallas shot. (The reason for the Alioto Mafia Web story in Look was to cover up the purpose of Fratianno's $100,000 pay-off.) They watched Onassis, via Maheu, pay off Johnny Roselli: a $250,000 finder's fee for bringing Hughes to Las Vegas. They watched Brading become a courier for Lansky's gambling skim money, from Onassis-Hughes's Las Vegas casinos to Onassis's Swiss banks. From there, the money came back, cleansed, to purchase government via the Hughes tax-free Medical Foundation Mafia Money Funnel, set up by Nixon in 1957. This was just before the Hughes-Rector kidnap-and-switch, and the Mafia meeting at Appalachin where Onassis announced it all. Harris and the CIA Group of 40 covered up the Alioto hit-and-run on my car on September 16, 1968as Fratianno, Brading, and Lanza muscled this writer on behalf of Alioto and Onassis. Albert Harris's California State Crime files surfaced again. Fratianno and Brading had been back in townwith Mafia Romano, at Alioto's Sunol. Their only known profession is Mafia murderlisted in those State Crime files from a Dun and Bradstreet Credit Report in early 1964, just after Dallas, stating just thatwith the note: Bad Credit Risk. Mafia. Which did not deter Banker Alioto's subsequent loans to Fratianno. On November 26, 1974, Harris covered the meeting of the 100 cancer invited to Enrico's Restaurant. They included Fratianno, Brading and Leland, Snedaker, Mummert from the San Francisco Coin Clubfor free rubies, free silver dollars, free gemstone papers. Harris, sick and pressured, picked up his copies at the Nigerian consulate the next dayfor on that day the entire matter was turned over to the United Nations, publicly. Harris read, and moaned about Dallas over the week-end. Then he heart-attacked on the following Wednesday. And, on Friday, Kissinger and Scali declared that the U.S. would dismantle the United Nationswhere the gemstone papers were then known to be, publicly. Harris's boss, Evelle Younger, rushed a State law through banning any further mention of any State Crime file recordsby anyone, anywhere, including youand naming specifically the files on Brading,
[CTRL] Fwd: Guardian Unlimited | World Latest | Pediatrics Panel OKs Gay Adoption
Hot-button issues aren't new for the academy, which also has supported gun control and banning television for children under 2, and opposed mandatory disclosure to parents when patients are considering abortion. So note who writes these press releases rather like ENRON wrote thousands of press releases always mentining their assets, worth billions of dollars which in effect pushed up the value of their stock with their oh so How Great We Art? Here are two stories both put out by Lambda. This Pediatrics Association - Note not Pediatraicians - or AMA stuff, this outfit is so cheap they quibble over a sixty dollar membership fee? This has the makings of a NEA group but this is a political movement pushed by whom? If homosexuals want their own kids by marriage who the hell would care. Stop and think a kid who is orphaned and then virtually farmed out to lesbians and homosexuals for fodder? Like Paula Poundstone. All this crap on the web about child abuse and molestations and atrocities and kids used for perverted purposes but worst of all AIDS? So here is one item put out by this LLambda Civil Rights Groups. There may be a few pediatricians in this group - but this group is not what it seems to be. First of all homosexuals, etc. who have kids by a marriage are protected by laws. They want money, more scam artists.. saba The nation's oldest and largest legal organization dedicated to the civil rights of lesbians, gay men, and people with HIV/AIDS. XX Documents Every Lesbian Gay Man Needs X California Supreme Court to Review Second-Parent Adoption Decision The California Supreme Court has agreed to review the question of whether second-parent adoptions are allowed in the state. January 30, 2002: News Release January 30, 2002: Lambda's brief to the California Court of Appeal American Academy of Pediatrics Supports Protections for Lesbian and Gay Families Lambda said a new policy from the American Academy of Pediatrics supporting legal protections for lesbian and gay families is an important landmark. January 30, 2002: News Release Lambda Testifies before the HHS Subcommittee on Privacy and Confidentiality of the National Committee on Vital and Health Statistics Lambda Legal warned in recent testimony at a Department of Health and Human Services hearing that federal regulations on medical privacy do not adequately protect people with HIV and AIDS, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender communities. January 30, 2002: Michael Adams' testimony Media Briefing on Lambda's Top Concerns in the South and Nationwide Lambda invites news reporters, editors, and producers to a February 1 media breakfast briefing about Lambda's top civil rights concerns for lesbians, gay men, and people with HIV and AIDS in the South and around the country. January 28, 2002: News Release Judge Agrees Lambda Can Argue that Housing Law Harms Same-Sex Couples Justice Richard Rivera of the Supreme Court of the State of New York in Kings County has granted the request by Lambda to participate as a friend-of-the-court in a case challenging the new housing regulation that makes it easier for landlords to harass and evict many lesbian and gay couples if they do not divide expenses equally. January 24, 2002: News Release Lambda and GLSEN Team Up to Create a New Publication for LGBT Youth Two organizations that have long battled bias in the nation's schools announced today that they have joined forces to create a guide for concerned community members who, in ever increasing numbers, support legal protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered (LGBT) students from violence and discrimination. January 15, 2002: News Release January 15, 2002: Publication U.S. Supreme Court Further Constricts Power of the ADA The United States Supreme Court ruling in Toyota v. Williams, refusing to recognize workplace-related limitations, further erodes the definition of disability and the strength of employee protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act. January 9, 2002: News Release January 9, 2002: Decision More News What's New | State-by-State | About | Library Events | Issues | Search | Join | Contact Lambda Lambda extends thanks to IBM, United Airlines and Prophet Brand Strategies for supporting civil rights work for lesbians, gay men, and people with HIV/AIDS. Saba note: So see who Lambda is? And the name dropping to IBM, United, etc., as if they had their support in this atraocity Site Design and Engineering by Mediapolis, inc. part of the © 1997-2002 by Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund Saba Note: Now note this article released again by this Lambda. Last night one was on TV - big fat 300 pound woman huffing and puffing (due for heart attack or something soon) - with two lesbians one over 300 pounds and her lover with a child but the child was born to the one woman. This is different than now trying to push kids who parents die or are orphaned into homes of homosexuals or lesiands
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [OrderofSkullandBones] Scroll Keys 522?
-Caveat Lector- Yes, we are dealing witha multi-generational cult of necromancers, that have been using the Hegelian dialectic of controlled conflict and magic to achieve stated objectives of control. And yes, this group does seem to have some very strong historical roots within the Teutonic Knights, Junkers and other Germanic sources. Today, the House of Windsor is German and the Pope is Polish. But this cullt does seem to have some coresponding relationships within many peoples, religions and political units. Their plans for the USA are: 1. A Fascist State 2. Move Economic Engine/Controll to: a. Some say Europe - Some say didn't ever leave b. Others say controlled China 3. Destruction and subjugation of populations 4. Official installation of an elite - Kingship and nobility. 5. One World Order . . . in time Basically a new technocratic Dark Ages, with space as a new frontier for more technocratic means of control. MHO Om K In a message dated 2/4/02 10:03:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BFSkull and Bones exists as the real inner circle of power in America, where our political power structure interlocks with the occult power structure. It appears as though there is a conclusive link between Germanic occultism and the Skull and Bones. Germanic occultism existed in the guise of Illuminism. Illuminism has suffered an inernal war between its internationalist faction (Weishaupt) and its reactionary faction (Von Knigge). John Daniel detailed the warfare within the occult in his excellent series Scarlet and the Beast , the only fault with it being that he dwelt too much on Masonry and not enough on the Teutonic Knights and the German factor in the equation. Nazism was a particularly vile outgrowth of this whole dialectic. The Skull and Bones is the American branch of this whole network. It may be the most power branch of it in the modern world. Certainly the Bushes are very much a product of this, the current President perhaps reluctantly. Of all places, the History Channel did an expose' on this. They even interviewed David Icke! I may not always agree with Icke, but yes, we do see an interlocking set of bloddlines and they are gunning for what appears to be a global fascist state. Most of us struggle hard on this list. Why should Ken Lay be able to cheat the system? I cannot even fathom it. MHO Bates A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Note to Republican National Committee
---BeginMessage--- I recieved a long passionate mass mailing from the RNC today requesting an RNC membership renewal. I sent back a copy of the Insight Articles on the DOJ targeting of Hamilton with the following note: Dear Mr. Duncan: The Department of Justice has refused to pay my company $2.5MM for 6 years. The Republican Party has refused to help. You were too busy helping Enron officials, board members, attorneys and auditors shred documents and move money offshore. If Iran Contra is any indication, I am sure you have plenty of offshore profits from financial fraud to finance the GOP for the next 1,000 years. Sincerely, Catherine Austin Fitts ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] USA v. Raise the Fist - Search Warrant/Affidavit
---BeginMessage--- SHERMAN WAS ARRESTED WHILE PROTESTING THE wORLD ECONOMIC FORUM LAST WEEK IN NYC... http://cryptome.org/usa-v-rtf-swa.htm 4 February 2002 http://www.ainfos.ca/ainfos08575.html February 4, 2002 Recent update regarding Anarchist Sherman Austin. Word has it according to KPFK [Southern California radio station] that Sherman Austin was taken from his jail cell last night by the FBI and other political police units of the United States government and was interrogated for up to six hours. Sherman was arrested after being targeted out of a crowd of protesters during the WEF protests in NY and was charged with loitering. More information regarding this is unknown but KPFK mentioned possible fears that he will be extradited to LA for possible charges regarding the raid 2 weeks ago of his house by FBI, Secret Service, and LAPD. What the FBI Doesn't Want You to See at RaisetheFist.com http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/raisethefist/ 4 February 2002. Thanks to BM. See related news report: http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/174092.html Cryptome would appreciate information on the legal basis for retaining seized data merely because it is encrypted and there is no proof that it fits any of the five characteristics set forth in G.iii. below. Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [29 pages.] JAN-30-2002 05:09FBILA MEDIA OFFICE 310 996 3345 P.01/29 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Los Angeles Field Office Office of Public Affairs To: BM Fax #: [Omitted] From: Matthew McLaughlin, FBI Los Angeles Phone #: (310) 996-3341 Return Fax #: (310) 996-3345 Re: Search warrant and affidavit Date: 1/30/02 Pages: 29 Comments: A093 SEARCH WARRANT ON WRITTEN AFFIDAVIT UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. THE PREMISES KNOWN AS: 4757 Sunnyslope Avenue, Sherman Oaks, California DOCKET NO.MAGISTRATE CASE NO. 02-0125M TO: ANY SPECIAL AGENT(S) WITH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OR ANY OTHER AUTHORIZED OFFICER Affidavit(s) having been made before me by the below-named affiant that he/she has reason to believe that on the premises known as SEE ATTACHMENT A In the Central District of California there is now being concealed certain property, namely: SEE ATTACHMENT B and as I am satisfied that there is probable cause to believe that the property so described is being concealed on the person or premises above-described and the grounds for application for issuance of the search warrant exist as stated in the supporting affidavit. YOU ARE HEREBY COMMANDED to search on or before ten (10) days (not to exceed 10 days) the person or place named above for the property specified, serving this warrant and making the search (in the daytime -- 6:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M.) and if the property be found there to seize it, leaving a copy of this warrant and receipt for the property taken, and prepare a written inventory of the property seized and promptly return this warrant to the duty U.S. Magistrate judge as required by law. NAME OF AFFIANT JOHN I. PI SIGNATURE U.S. MAGISTRATE JUDGE ** JENNIFER T. LUM HONORABLE JENNIFER LUM DATE/TIME ISSUED January 16, 2002 @8:49 am * If a search is to be authorized at any time in the day or night pursuant to Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure Rule 41 (a), show reasonable cause therefor. ** United States Judge or Judge of a State Court of Record. NK ATTACHMENT A PREMISES TO BE SEARCHED 4757 SUNNYSLOPE AVENUE, SHERMAN OAKS, CALIFORNIA (SUBJECT PREMISES) -- further described as follows: a single-story family residence, with white stucco sidings, a red brick front, and a light brown shingle roof. A detached car garage was located behind the house. The front of the residence faces east, has approximately three windows, a front door, and one large tree in the front yard of the house. The house was located in the southwest corner of the intersection of Riverside Drive and Sunnyslope Avenue. ATTACHMENT B ITEMS TO BE SEARCHED A. Records, documents, programs, applications and materials which reflect malicious computer activity including copies of computer exploits, hacking tools and programs, lists of user names, passwords, credit card numbers, computerized logs, account names, personal telephone books, personal address books, exploits and other programs used to obtain unauthorized access of computer systems or information or launch denial of service attacks on computer systems; B. Records, documents, program applications and materials which reflect the identities and activities of UNDERGROUND COUNTERACTIVE ASSEMBLAGE UNIVERSAL NETWORK, UNDERGROUND CONFIDENTIAL
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: CANADIAN TV AIRS EMPEROR'S CLOTHES 'GUILTY FOR 9-11' EVIDENCE!
---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: CANADIAN TV AIRS EMPEROR'S CLOTHES 'GUILTY FOR 9-11' EVIDENCE! This is being sent on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]as part of the mailing list that you joined.List: emperorsclothesURL: http://www.emperors-clothes.comURL for this article: http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/deception.htmJoin our email list at http://emperors-clothes.com/f.htmReceive about one article/day.Please feel free to re-post our material, but please quote our words rather than paraphrasing. Please credit the author(s) if you use our work. And please give the article's Web address so people can check the documentation. www.tenc.net * [Emperor's Clothes]===CANADIAN TV AIRS EMPEROR'S CLOTHES 'GUILTY FOR 9-11' EVIDENCE!by John Flaherty[Posted 5 February 2001]===For the first time material from Emperor's Clothes series 'GUILTY FOR 9-11' has appeared on a network TV show. The program was "The Great Deception". (1) It aired Jan. 28 on the Insight Mediafile at Vision TV, a network with 2 million distinct viewers a week. Vision programs are seen across Canada and can reach from 100 to 150,000 people. Hosted by Barrie Zwicker, the program used research and material from 'GUILTY FOR 9-11, Section 1', the 'Update to Section 1, and 'Section 2' or 'Cheney's Cover Story.' (1a)After watching the program, Emperor's Clothes Editor Chris Black contacted Barrie Zwicker to congratulate him for taking this brave step. Mr. Zwicker wrote back: [Letter begins here]Dear Christopher Black: What a joyful surprise to receive your e-mail. Amidst the avalanche of e-mail I'm trying to cope with, I want to respond immediately to yours. I discovered www.emperors-clothes.com I don't know how long, maybe well over a year, ago. I learned to trust it. I have been educated and nurtured by it. And increasingly, inspired. So for me to receive your e-mail was a complete and genuine and gratifying surprise. I do not consider myself to be in your league as to investigative journalism. I was suspicious about the 9/11 thing from the outset. For me to be the first, apparently, to ask these questions on air is ridiculous. Big media should have done it already. [Regarding the information on Andrews Air Force base] really, there must be thousands of people who have first- or second-hand knowledge of complicity. Just take the number of people who live on Andrews AFB who know their interceptors stayed put until too late. I don't think they can keep the lid on this for much longer. Thank you, Christopher, Israel and the rest, for your wonderful work all along. Gotta run. I hope to be in touch again. In peace and networking for light. Barrie Zwicker, A producer and host The MediaFile [LETTER ENDS HERE] Here's the transcript of the part of the TV show based on Emperor's Clothes research: [START EXCERPT FROM 'GREAT DECEPTION' TRANSCRIPT] (2)"For large scheduled aircraft, tracked throughout on radar, to depart extravagantly from their flight paths, would trigger numerous calls to the military, especially after two have hit the World Trade Centre and now one is speeding toward Washington, D.C. "It flies over the White House, turns sharply and heads toward the Pentagon. Everyone - and I mean everyone - now knows these planes are very bad news. It's been reported on all TV networks for more than half an hour that this is a terrorist attack. "Now, Andrews Air Force Base is a huge installation. It's home to Air Force One, the President's plane. It's home base for two combat-ready squadrons of jet interceptors mandated to ensure the safety of the U.S. capital. Andrews is only 12 miles from the White House. (3)"On September 11th the squadrons there were: The 121st Fighter Squadron of the 113th Fighter Wing, equipped with F-16s The 321st Marine Fighter Attack Squadron of the 49th Marine Air Group, Detachment A, equipped F/A-18s (4)"This information was on the website of the base on September 11th. On September 12th, Andrews chose to update its website. I find it odd that after the update there's no mention of the F-16 and F-18 fighters. The base becomes, according to the website, home to a transport squadron only. (5)"Yet at 6:30 the evening of September 11th NBC Nightly News, along with many outlets, reported: "'It was after the attack on the Pentagon that the Air Force then decided to scramble F-16s out of the DC National Guard Andrews Air Force Base to fly ... a protective cover over Washington, D.C.' (5a)"Throughout the northeastern United States are many air bases. But that morning no interceptors respond in a timely fashion to the highest alert situation. This includes the Andrews squadrons which have the longest lead time and are 12 miles from the White House. "Whatever
[CTRL] What really happened on Sept. 11?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.visiontv.ca/programs/insight/Deception.htm - VisionTV Insight: Mediafile The Great Deception Mon., Jan. 28 and Mon., Feb. 4, 10:30 p.m. ET (30 mins.) (repeats Thursdays, 7 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET) What really happened on Sept. 11? The most courageous and important media commentary since Oliver Stones JFK. The only thing about The Great Deception that surprised me was that a nation-wide TV channel would broadcast it. VisionTV is to be applauded for venturing into this terrain. some of the e-mailed comments from viewers following VisionTV Insight: Mediafile on Jan. 21 Why did it take the CIA, the Pentagon and the White House so long to respond to the horrendous events of Sept. 11, 2001? asks media critic, analyst, author and host of VisionTV Insight: Mediafile Barrie Zwicker. In his controversial Jan. 21 commentary, the first in a series of commentaries on the terrorist attacks, Zwicker said that the official narrative for the events of that day is frankly implausible. According to Zwicker, a more likely scenario suggests elements within the top military and political offices were anxious to justify a war on terrorism, increase the militarys budget and make a grab for Middle East oil. I see a huge disconnect between what the media are saying and not saying about Sept. 11 and most everything related to it on the one hand, and what people I know are saying and thinking about those things on the other, Zwicker explains. I expect there will be people outraged [by my comm entaries] and others deeply gratified that their intuitions are being recognized. Barrie stirred the pot a little more than usual with his provocative comments on the unanswered questions about the events surrounding 9/11, says VisionTV Insight senior producer Sadia Zaman. Viewer response to the Jan. 21 commentary, The Great Deception, has been unprecedented. VisionTV Insight and Zwicker have provided an alternative voice to the tragedy since it happened. Zwicker continues with this series, taking a more precise look at the events of that day and their context on Mon., Jan. 28 and Mon., Feb. 4 at 10:30 p.m. ET. VisionTV is an independent, not-for-profit broadcaster. VisionTV Insight examines the moral, ethical and spiritual dimensions of current events. The Mediafile edition airs Mondays at 10:30 p.m. ET and takes an alternative look at mass media and asks questions not asked by the mainstream. © VisionTV 80 Bond Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5B 1X2 Telephone 416-368-3194 Home | Schedules | Programs | Media Centre | Site Map | Email - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [OrderofSkullandBones] Scroll Keys 522?
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [OrderofSkullandBones] Scroll Keys 522? Yes, we are dealing witha multi-generational cult of necromancers Their plans for the USA are: 1. A Fascist State If you look at the definition of fascism used by Mussolini and adapted by Eisenhower in his farewell speech warning regarding the military-industrial complex (another term for fascism), this goal was accomplished long ago. The US economy has been driven by military/war needs since World War II. 2. Move Economic Engine/Controll to: a. Some say Europe - Some say didn't ever leave b. Others say controlled China I don't see how this makes a whole lot of difference. Only the designated currency by which all other currencies are valued matters. One currency, then? 3. Destruction and subjugation of populations Maybe, but if so they are absolutely inept at achieving this goal. As far as I know the population of Earth continues to increase by the minute and they don't have the means to subjugate non-industrial moneyless people living beyond the reach of air or automotive transportation. 4. Official installation of an elite - Kingship and nobility. Don't the American people already do this with their president? If the people demand a king they will get one. 5. One World Order . . . in time Also already done but well hidden. Basically a new technocratic Dark Ages, with space as a new frontier for more technocratic means of control. If, as I maintain, the Illuminati are non-human, the only change might be moving the control from non-humans to humans. It's been in control from the beginning. Not much significance to transferring the work to humans, is there? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Gold Does Its Job
---BeginMessage--- * * * * * * * * * * * * REMINDER * * * * * * * * * * * * * On the days that I don't publish, like today, you receive Bill Bonner's DAILY RECKONING. This will help you to keep pace with the changes in the markets. Bonner and I agree on most things in the field of economics, so the two letters reinforce each other. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Gold Does Its Job THE DAILY RECKONING PARIS, FRANCE TUESDAY, 5 FEBRUARY 2002 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *** Dow falls...but Nikkei still leads the race... *** Ebbers, once one of America's richest...now one of America's poorest... *** Everybody gets Enron cash but us...losses become profits...UAL and the B word...and more!... * * * * * * * * * Advertisement * * * * * * * * * Detect the most undervalued stocks in today's market - with the most powerful trading secret on Wall Street... Take this $4.00 stock...it has assets of more than $10 billion - that's more than Blockbuster, JDS Uniphase, eBay, Amazon, and Amgen combined! This company did over $5.9 billion in sales last year (7 times the revenues of eBay, yet eBay's market cap is 16 times larger!) In fact, the net profit this $4.00 stock posted in 2000 is almost as much as eBay's total sales! When you see this company's fundamentals, you'll agree that this $4.00 stock could be the most undervalued play in today's market. Find out more: http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/RTD/HugeGains * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Dow slipped 220 points yesterday. But even that was not enough to put it ahead of its fleet-of-foot Japanese cousin. The Nikkei Dow is still leading in the race to the bottom, 9475 compared to 9687. The Wall Street Journal reports that Amazon may not have enough cash to continue operations. The stock fell $1.20. Also in the WSJ was news that TYCO had spent $8 billion on secret acquisitions. TYCO stock dropped $2.13. And, according to the New York Times, Bernard Ebbers of WorldCom owes $92 million more than his stock is worth. Investors sold the stock, eager to unload before Ebbers. Ebbers has done something truly remarkable. In 1999, Ebbers was one of America's richest men. His WorldCom shares were worth $1 billion. Since then, the stock has fallen 84%. Now, he's one of America's poorest men. It is a rare man who can carry both distinctions with such grace. But Ebbers only did what everyone else does - he tapped his equity when he had a lot of it...borrowing nearly $200 million against his WorldCom shares. Thus has Mr. Ebbers provided the world with an exposition on what happens when a bubble economy deflates. The equity disappears...but the debt remains. How will we know when the bottom is finally reached? Look for Ebbers' picture among the Forbes' gallery of America's Poorest People...or Enron on the new list of the Misfortune 500. And here's a note from my friend Rick Ackerman: This one's a doozy, Bill. Seems Nasdaq 100 companies reported $82M in losses in SEC filings for Q1- 3 2001, while claiming $19.1 billion in combined profits to shareholders, based on 'pro forma' methods. On a local note, Rick continues, the word bankruptcy is getting tossed around in connection with UAL, a huge Denver employer. The airline supposedly is losing $10 million per day, but who knows? UAL's supposed answer will be to 'enhance' revenues by raising fares. They are already the priciest carrier for business and last-minute fares, so this latest inspiration could be a very efficient way to commit suicide. American Enterprises' Accounting Suspect, says a headline in today's Figaro. All over the world, people are wondering about America's numbers. More below... Eric, what's the news from Wall Street? ** Eric Fry out on the left coast... - Palm Springs was a balmy 75 yesterday. But the Dow Jones Industrial Average was an ice-cold 9,687 - down 220 points from Friday's close. Winter on Wall Street is becoming quite frosty and there's really nowhere to hide. - The Nasdaq bested the Dow's decline with a 3% plunge to 1,855. Concerns about corporate bookkeeping captured the headlines and sent investors scurrying for the exists faster than Kenneth Lay from a Congressional hearing. - The former Enron CEO did not approve of the prosecutorial tone that the hearings had adopted. Lay's got a point; Congress really should not get the chance to hang him until he has had a chance to finish hanging himself. Blowing off a Congressional hearing is a pretty good start. - The financial Nor'easter blowing west from Wall Street is creating an economic ice storm for which few folks seem prepared. Consumer confidence jumped again in January. But the latest numbers might be as good as they get for a while. Confidence and the resultant consumer spending might wither in a hurry in the face of a falling stock market and a barrage of headlines about dishonest corporate accounting. - I'm here in the
[CTRL] Fw: FreeRepublic Faces Closure in Lawsuit : Washington Post, Los Angeles Times To Put End To Robinson ; LSN Staff
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: FreeRepublic Faces Closure in Lawsuit : Washington Post, Los Angeles Times To Put End To Robinson ; LSN Staff FreeRepublic Faces Closure in Lawsuit Washington Post, Los Angeles Times To Put End To Robinson 2/5/02 10:14:02 AM LSN Staff Washington, DC -- The website FreeRepublic.com may be shut down by order of a judge within weeks as a lawsuit by the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times for $1,000,000 in copyright infringement damages against Jim Robinson, operator of FreeRepublic, goes forward. The essence of FreeRepublic's argument is that it is a censorship free discussion forum, but the Post and the Times are expected to bring forth arguments that it is in fact censoring users and utilizing their material in furtherance of political goals, rather than as an educational resource as Robinson claims. According to Todd Brendan Fahey, a former CIA agent working with the Center for Libertarian Studies, much in the way that former CIA agents work for National Review, an email from Robinson stating: Those who are coming in here to post a bunch of propaganda to smear Bush or otherwise harm the war effort are going to be deleted. is one of several exhibits that may be used to prove that Robinson is not creating an uncensored or educational forum but is using his website to achieve political goals and further political interests. FreeRepublic lost its case in its lower court ruling. If it wins on appeal, it would establish that any website that is not for profit can repost articles in full from other publications for the purpose of commentary. If it loses, FreeRepublic will likely be shut down by the judgement. Libertarian Socialist News Post Office Box 12244 Silver Spring, MD 20908 http://www.overthrow.com (check out our messageboards -- discuss this story on-line!) (Formerly http://www.libertariansocialist.com) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] St. Petersburg, FL Mind Control Murder ?
-Caveat Lector- Once again, the suspect is described as a [paranoid] schizophrenic; and *of course* he heard 'voices' Another 'mind control murder' ? They seem to happen so often these days... == http://www.sptimes.com/2002/02/05/SouthPinellas/18_year_old_dies_in_S.shtml 18-year-old dies in St. Petersburg machete slaying The suspect's stepmother says he is a victim of mental illness - and the system. By RYAN MALDONADO, BRYAN GILMER and CURTIS KRUEGER © St. Petersburg Times, published February 5, 2002 - ST. PETERSBURG -- Dennis George Roache lived in a mobile home with no furniture. Neighbors often saw him carrying a piece of wood and talking to it. He yelled at flowers and disturbed neighbors at night by blowing a whistle and chanting things they didn't understand. Roache, 34, is schizophrenic and needs daily medication, his stepmother said. He is paranoid that pills are an attempt to poison him, so he refuses to take his drugs, she said. More than once, courts have found that Roache is mentally incompetent to stand trial for crimes. He spent time in the Florida State Hospital for the severely mentally ill in Chattahoochee. His ex-girlfriend once tried to get a restraining order against him, but a judge denied her request. About 8:20 a.m. Monday, Roache showed up with a machete at the woman's tiny house in the Childs Park neighborhood. He broke in through a window and found Monique Pennywell, 29, in the bedroom with boyfriend Gregory Shannon, 18, police said. Hey, listen, man -- I told you to stay away from my baby's mother, Pennywell heard Roache say. Then he repeatedly swung the long blade at Shannon as Pennywell ran into the bathroom with the phone and called 911. Across the street, Tessara Jackson's 10-year-old daughter opened her front door and cried to her mother, That man has a head in his hand. At first, I didn't want to believe it, but I saw it was a head, Jackson said Monday afternoon. When police arrived at 1635 39th St. S, Roache was standing next to an Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. He had propped the head against the windshield and placed a mirror in front of it so that if the head were still alive, it could see itself, St. Petersburg police spokesman George Kajtsa said. [SNIP] 'He's been sick' Patricia Roache, the suspect's stepmother, said her son's schizophrenia makes him hear imaginary voices. She said he told police he heard on the radio Monday morning that the man staying in Pennywell's house was sexually abusing her children. We knew that he's been sick, and we called the police to have them do something to help him. The response we got was that if he doesn't hurt somebody or himself, they can't do anything about it, Mrs. Roache said. He said everybody's trying to get him to take drugs. He feels that way about his medication, that everybody's trying to tranquilize him. Roache moved to St. Petersburg about 11 years ago from Montego Bay, Jamaica, leaving behind a wife and a child. Since then, Roache occasionally has stayed with his father and stepmother in St. Petersburg, the stepmother said. Once he threatened to kill his father, she said. = http://www.wtsp.com/news/2002_02/04_machete.htm Man charged with using machete to decapitate teen ST. PETERSBURG In one of the most gruesome local murder cases in recent memory, a man used a machete to cut off the head of his ex-girlfriends new 18-year-old beau, police said According to St. Petersburg police, Dennis Roache, 34, broke into his former girlfriends home and used a 30-inch machete to chop off her new boyfriends head. Roache then placed Gregory Shannons head on the hood a parked car. When police arrived at the home, Roache was adjusting a mirror in front of the head, officials said. He broke in, he had a big machete, and he just started cutting my boyfriend up, said Monique Pennywell, Roaches ex-girlfriend. Pennywells neighbors have seen a lot of violence since the beginning of the year. In just four weeks, there have been four murders in the area near the 1600 block of 39th St S. Copyright 2002 WTSP-TV. All Rights Reserved. = MARtin F. ABErnathy --- [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --- 02/05/02 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Is The US Gov. Serving China or the Sovereign People of America?
-Caveat Lector- Also, why have the American people given no choice but to buy Red Chinese junk products? -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Why has the Federal Government allowed Communist Red China guided tours through our most-sensitive military facilities for the benefit of Communist China's top war-making strategists as you reported in August 2000? Why did the Federal Government allow Communist Red China to take over the Panama Canal? Why does George W. Bush allow Communist Red China a Most Favored Trade Status? Why has George W. Bush not addressed the issue of Communist Red China's nuclear missiles aimed at the United States? WAKE UP AMERICA !!! February 3, 2002 Breaking from NewsMax.com: Clinton Ambassador Endorses Seeds of Fire The new best-seller on China's growing superpower status - Seeds of Fire - also has some shocking revelations, including evidence of China's role in the 9-11 attacks through their ties with Al-Qaeda. Author and journalist Gordon Thomas also says China is preparing for a nuclear war with the U.S. by the year 2015. Thomas's sensational new book has also gotten the interesting endorsement from a former Clinton-appointed ambassador. Former U.S Ambassador to the Vatican, Ray Flynn, the former Democratic Boston mayor now turned radio host on Bean Town's 950 AM, has nothing but praise for the book. Flynn says: 'Seeds of Fire' is a book that every patriot American - everyone who cares about the future of this country... everyone who wants to know what goes on behind the scenes - must buy and read. This is THE book. Written by a highly experienced intelligence analyst, it is simply a MUST. You cannot ignore the warnings Gordon Thomas gives. As an example of his total credibility, hours after the book was published, the CIA was forced to confirm its findings about the threat China poses. The CIA publicly confirmed what Gordon Thomas reveals in 'Seeds of Fire.' Just how big a threat China is. This has been kept out of the news agenda because it does not suit certain business interests to have that truth emerge. But at last, here it is. I say again: Every patriotic American should buy and read this book... it is simply revelatory. Why does the New York Times and Boston Globe, to name but two mainstream sources, not recognize the wake-up call that 'Seeds of Fire' delivers? Special Offer: Get Seeds of Fire Free -- Click Here Now: http://www.newsmax.com/seedsoffire.shtml *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! http://www.etherzone.com/2002/sees020602.shtml Ether Zone SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION? GOVERNMENT HAS SEPARATED FROM THE PEOPLE By: Dorothy Anne Seese They're fighting mad and they have a right to be. For anyone who isn't mentally incapacitated by ABC-CBS-NBC news, or CNN, you should know that Americans are not a free people and we do not live in a free nation. Government has separated from the people and become Planet Washington D.C. You should also know who is at fault besides the government ... YOU. American willingness to believe major media, to want government protection that violates a citizen's privacy or other freedoms under the Bill of Rights, and the increasing reliance on government to protect individual security has given us everything short of martial law, which appears to be on its way soon. The Pentagon wishes to appoint a four-star general in charge of homeland defense and that means farewell and goodbye to the Posse Comitatus act. Many of us, but perhaps not enough of us, can see that we are no longer a free nation. If the liberal, or even impartial media told the truth about what has been going on in this nation, there would have been an uprising after the Waco conflagration. There has been much evidence presented (but not on the six o'clock news) about why Timothy McVeigh alone could not have brought down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, there had to be additional explosives involved that he did not possess. Yet when he was executed, Americans went back to sleep, content that the government had seen to it that justice was satisfied. Horsefeathers. The cover-up of the bombing of TWA Flight 800, the confusion being generated over Flight 587 that crashed in New York, the land grabs out west, the rural cleansing that is occurring by government backing of hyper-environmentalism and land-use restrictions, withholding of water or other essentials to farmers, and other violations of rights of citizens are each and every one sufficient for us to recall most of the members in Congress (both houses) and the present administration, as well as prosecuting the leadership of the immediate past administration. We're a sold-out nation and most Americans do not realize it, but enough do that they are willing to fight unless this tyranny is stopped. Some folks consider me a radical or right-wing fanatic. Actually, all I do is work as an analyst of times, trends and events and write down what to me is obvious. Also, I get feedback emails from the columns that are published, and many of these tell me just how far our patriotic backbone of America is willing to take this war against government tyranny. This nation has been the target of globalism for decades and the globalists are now closing in with the last and final attack against America ... that is the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and along with it, the Christian church (which is sitting in the corner worried about its IRS status rather than sounding out the cry of Paul Revere from the pulpits). Most Americans now seem to be waking up to the fact that the war against terrorism in Afghanistan was a military exercise to unseat the Taliban not because they were terrorists or radicals, but because they were uncooperative with the global agenda and the interests of multinational big oil. How many folks now are really concerned with Osama bin Laden? The interest has waned in government (because they needed a face of evil) and in the public. The next step toward complete abrogation of all American freedom will be preceded by another terrorist attack of some sort, enough to frighten the public into surrendering the remainder of its freedom without so much as a whimper. All Americans, except those who understand how the agenda works and what to expect, will panic and surrender. It will apparently not affect those whose focus is on the restoration of a constitutional America. At least, they are saying it will not. Most of America's citizens are more concerned about how Enron's collapse will affect our economy and their lifestyle. What's destroying our economy is the stranglehold of the large multinational corporations and government treaties that are taking American jobs away and sending them overseas, and at the same time driving the farmers and independent American landowners off their land so they cannot produce food and provide for the nation. It's a matter of TOTAL government control. Ask the Klamath Farmers and dozens of others who know what the term rural cleansing means. They know first hand. Try to start a profitable entrepreneurial business today and you have a very slight chance of success with all the government red-tape. The next in line, after the economy (and we cannot believe that our leadership wants the economy to recoup without total global interdependence) is the last of the Christian churches that will
[CTRL] Good Letter
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! The 'Wright' Way to Cancel the Tax HearingMr. Schulz, With all due respect to you and my fellow believers, I do not think we will ever get the federal government to release us from the income tax bondage. If such an event should miraculously occur, I suspect it would be short-lived or replaced with another form or taxation equally restricting our liberties and freedoms. Our founding fathers fought and toiled equally over negotiations with King George. They finally realized there was a time to cease talking and to put-up or shut-up, drawing a line in the sand, if you will. Today, history repeats itself. King George will not surrender the power derived from an aggressive and abusive taxation laid on the backs of the Sovereign People. King George and his alliance as well as his predecessors have outwardly made a mockery of the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. The tuff decisions once made by our Founding Fathers must now be made by the Sovereign People. God's Law and the law of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are un-yielding, as this is the guilt we have for allowing ourselves to be subjective to tyrants and want-to-be lords. For we know no man or government nor law should deny or take away our God given rights or freedoms. As George Washington once said and the same should be said today for history has repeated itself: The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves, whether they are to have any property they can call their own, whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed and themselves confined to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to resolve to conquer or die. - George Washington Now is the time for all good men/women to come to the aid of their country. Now, not six days, six months, or six years from now. If our Founding Fathers and relatives were alive today, make no mistake about what they would do. They would start impeachment proceeding today, going night and day, until the President and every member of Congress was either impeached, ran out of town, or hung for treason. Some may think that is a radical. But I will tell you what's radical! The crimes involving heavy and continuous taxation, turning our monetary system over to the Federal Reserve, applying Executive Orders to rule the Sovereign People, War Powers, Fuel Taxes, Employment Taxes, Property Taxes, the Social Security hoax, creating a federal police force, plus a thousand other socialist schemes against the Sovereign People. That's radical! The radical's are the elected and appointed officials including all others who have participated in their cover-up turning their backs on the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. They are a den of thieves! The President of the United States can make no law. Congress is the only branch of government with the power to make law. And remember this: No powers can be exercised by the Congress which are prohibited by the Constitution or which are contrary to its spirit. - Justice McLean - The Congressional Record, House, Feb. 26, 1900, page 2290. Yes, the Sovereign People of America needs a leader. And you will not find that leader leading the Republican nor Democratic Party. To rebel against the power elite may be considered a death march, but who among us had rather march the road to slavery than to freedom? To join today's Freedom March does not require your signature, in fact, quite the opposite. No signature or filing is required. The only people who need to file or owe Federal Income Tax are those who are employed by the Federal Government, live in a 10 mile radius of Washington D.C., or live in Guam, the American Samoa Islands, Puerto Rico, or the Virgin Islands. The majority of the Sovereign People residing in one of the Sovereign States of the Union do not owe Federal Income Tax, and are not required by the Constitution to file a Federal Income Tax. I believe 132 million in-slaved Taxpayers CAN tell 435 Congressman, 100 Senators and 1 President WHAT TO DO! This is not about overthrowing our Government, it's about taking our government back. Establishing a government responsible to God, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The National Taxpayer's Union says that taxes have gone up 175,000% in the last 83 years (1918-2001). And what are we doing about it? Talk is cheap! Actions speak louder than words. Our federal tax system is, in short, utterly impossible, utterly unjust and completely counterproductive [it] reeks with injustice and is fundamentally un-American...it has earned a rebellion and it's time we rebelled. - President
[CTRL] An Appeal to Every Organization That Stands For Liberty
-Caveat Lector- http://www.givemeliberty.org/features/2002febhearing/ltrcoalition02-02-02.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! An Appeal to Every Organization That Stands For Liberty The Time Has Come For Us to Stand Together I am writing this letter to ask for your help. As you may know, We The People Foundation For Constitutional Education, Inc. has been working diligently for years to expose the grave danger that bloated, wasteful and out-of-control government poses to our unalienable rights as Americans. This appeal is being sent to the leaders of every major organization that is fighting to defend our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and ultimately, the very survival of our Republic. Who can deny that we have reached a critical juncture in the life of our Country? The size, scope and power of the federal government have become so vast that virtually every aspect of our lives is monitored, regulated, documented and controlled. We are asking those organizations, like yours, that have been courageously leading the fight for freedom and the return to our nation's founding principles, to now stand together and speak with a common voice. Notwithstanding our different and sometimes competing missions, we must acknowledge that divided and separate, we will never achieve the critical mass or the momentum required to restore our rightful liberty. We must acknowledge that academic rhetoric and abstract political debate have failed to hold our servant government in check. This is an appeal to all patriotic organizations across our nation that stand guard over the flame of liberty. We ask that you join us in this unprecedented effort to bring all major freedom organizations together with a common focus and purposeâ¦to restore the authority of the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights as the foundation for our system of government in America. We The People Foundation would like to invite you and your senior representatives to be our guests at a private dinner and informal discussion session on February 27, 2002, at 6:00 p.m., at the Washington Marriott Hotel. We will have a guest dinner speaker, and afterwards conduct an open discussion of how freedom organizations can work together to create a powerful and effective force for liberty that is greater than the sum of its parts. How many of our unalienable rights have already been completely lost or seriously eroded by an overreaching and power-hungry federal government? The right to privacy The right to property The right to a public trial The right to a speedy trial The right to a trial by a jury The right to due process of law The right to a fully informed jury The right to keep and bear arms The right to freedom from vote fraud The right to freedom from taxes on wages The right to a republican form of government The right to a politically independent judiciary The right to freedom from involuntary servitude The right to confront the witnesses against you The right to freedom from government acts not enumerated The right to freedom from searches without probable cause The right to a monetary system backed by a precious metal The right to petition the government for a redress of grievances The right to freedom from laws that favor public over private education The right to freedom from being forced to be a witness against yourself The right to freedom from searches and seizures without proper warrants The right to freedom from the same hands controlling all three branches The right to freedom from having property taken without just compensation The right to freedom from federal laws in areas outside of federal jurisdiction The right to freedom from the imposition of direct taxes not tied to the census The right to representation loyal to the constitution rather than to a political party The right to freedom from having an appeals court re-examine facts tried by a jury The right to freedom from the use of the armed forces without a declaration of war The right to freedom from constitutional amendments not ratified by ¾ of the States The right to freedom from the usurpation of the powers of the Congress by the Executive Now is the moment for those who deeply love our country, and what it truly stands for, to set aside their differences and unite in defense of our Constitution and rightful liberties as Americans. No single freedom organization in the country has the influence, resources or capability to stem the tide of government tyranny alone. But together we have the mass, the scale, and the power to bind our servant government down with the chains of the Constitution. We need only to find the courage to live the convictions of our hearts, the wisdom to look beyond the immediate obstacles in our path, and the confidence that the Master of the Universe will once again reward our vigilance with the blessings of liberty. Each freedom organization has its own mission, purpose and strategy.
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No distinction between good, evil?
-Caveat Lector- finally the line between al queda and taliban is erased completely. the distinction was troubling and confusing to Americans, and inconvenient to a govt. that wanted to get rid of one, by equating it with the other. Lindh did not join al-queda - the terrorist group financed by osama - with an explicit anti-American policy, but joined the taliban, a fundamentalist Islamic political group that was ruling Afghanistan at the time. The taliban did not have an anti-American agenda (indeed we gave them 40million + dollars just a few months before Sep 11, as our PARTNERS in the war on drugs) now get this - I know its shocking, but being an Islamic fundamentalist isn't illegal in America, freedom of religion is a guaranteed right here. Saying you support Osama isn't against the law here either, we have a protection of free speech. a few specific responses: Thus a calculated campaign of deception begins on the steps of the courthouse. Legal charlatans use the technicalities of our judicial system and the gullibility of the televised media to make a mockery of the courts and the law. Tragically, our system of justice has become a paradigm for our faltering and confused society the technicalities of our judicial system that are being decried here, are the very protections that are part and parcel of America's freedoms. As a nation, our belief is that it is better for a guilty person to walk free, than an innocent to be punished. These are not liberal legal tricks, but protections granted our citizens. It is liberal dogma that human life is an accident, and that we are but pawns at the mercy of an indifferent universe. Um if the universe is indifferent - we can't be pawns. Pawn implies there is an intelligent plan being followed. See the contradiction? Berlusconi was demonized as a bigot for telling the truth about Islamic countries, not a single one of which embraces religious freedom, human rights and democratic values. Egypt? Turkey? -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is The US Gov. Serving China or the Sovereign People of America?
-Caveat Lector- no choice? someone is forcing you to buy them? It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error. Justice Robert H. Jackson NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:50:52 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Is The US Gov. Serving China or the Sovereign People of America? Also, why have the American people given no choice but to buy Red Chinese junk products? -- Bill A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Squeaky Clean
-Caveat Lector- from - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20020201/pl/aba_terrorism_1.html Friday February 1 5:38 PM ET U.S. Terror Arrest Tactics Detailed By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer PHLADELPHIA (AP) - People the government suspects of terrorist involvement will be arrested on the most minor of crimes - spitting on the sidewalk or petty credit card swindles - just to get them off the street, a senior Bush administration lawyer said Friday. If we suspect you of terrorism you better be squeaky clean, Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh told an audience of lawyers and human rights advocates, some of whom shook their heads in disagreement. If we suspect you of terrorism we will arrest you, no matter how minor the violation, so that you are removed from the street and from the people that you wish to harm, Dinh told an American Bar Association session. Citing the late Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's campaign to bust organized crime, Dinh said terrorist suspects will be arrested if they so much as spit on the sidewalk. By the time we wait to investigate, prosecute and then incarcerate the persons, the damage is already done, Dinh said. The consequence is too great, and we simply cannot risk that threat to the American people. The 19 primary suspects in this case are all dead, and with them are approximately 3,000 innocent people. Each of the hundreds of potential terror suspects detained since Sept. 11 faces legitimate criminal charges, Dinh said. These are individualized arrests. It is not a roundup, he said. Dinh's boss, Attorney General John Ashcroft, generally uses less colorful language to make the same points. A range of critics have called the administration's arrest and detention policies heavy-handed, and the ABA opposes government monitoring of the suspects' meetings with lawyers. Georgetown University law professor David Cole took issue with nearly everything Dinh said, and went on to criticize Congress for passing new immigration rules that Cole said recall the McCarthy era. It's guilt by association, Cole said. Immigrants can be deported for supporting a range of potentially innocent causes, and can be refused entry to the United States based on their views, Cole said. What we have done is trade off the rights of immigrants ... for our purported security, he said. The ABA is holding panel discussions on several terrorism and national security issues arising from the Sept. 11 jetliner attacks during its half-yearly meeting here. The nation's largest lawyers' group may vote next week to give limited support to military tribunals proposed by President Bush. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [OrderofSkullandBones] Scroll Keys 522?
BF>(Please maximize the page) Well, the question of nobility and kingship is an interesting one. Once again, there was a split two centuries ago within occult circles over that issue. Certainly the Freemasons on the side of the Republic would not have agreed with Joseph De Maistre and the Freemasons on the side of the royalist blood-lines. However, what is overlooked in any analysis of this split (as exposed by John Daniel and other heroic researchers) would be the common control mechanism beyond both of these, fomenting wars and spiritual oppression. Leaving the term "Illuminati" behind, I do believe this control mechanism goes beyond the human. It goes beyond "conspiracy".* We must not overlook the obvious. Whether there are extraterrestrials involved in this or not, we cannot overlook the real nature of control. The real nature of control is not any human control. The real control is on the spirirtual level. "Above" the White House on any map is the real control of any nation having turned its back on God. No, I am not talking about the Scottish Rite Masonic center seen on the map, not really. I am talking about the geometry of the streets themselves. This is not insignifigant. It is symbolic of a spiritual darkness that is not conspiratorial as much as it is institutional. We must reckon with this fact, and not merely political conspiracy, if we are truly going to get to the root of the problem. There is a fundamental truth that I believe was revealed to me one night in prayer. The real truth is that of a spiritual battle between Light and Belial. This transcends any conspiracy. I also believe it was revealed to me that we are loosing our freedom because we have made it in to a god in the United States. I am convinced that this is true, and that it goes for secularists, and it also goes for Christians who believe in the concept that we are a "Christian nation". Both have turned a decent system of government in to a god. One of the first things God does when He puts a nation under Judgement is to destroy its false gods. That is actually a mercy in that we can see the effects of our actions and turn around before it goes too far. We do not see it as such, and continue sinning. Whether we loose our freedom at the hands of Skull and Bones or whether it is at the hands of Red China or some foreign despotism, it really does not matter. Either way, we loose something precious because we valued it more than God. That is my view of things, as much as I wish it were not. - *Note: According to Jasper Ridley, historian and author of the book The Freemasons , Kissinger's favorite person, Prince von Metternich, suppressed the Freemasons as part of his attack against liberalism. Kissinger is, of course, a major architect of the New World Order. He is idolizing a person who suppressed Freemasonry, or at least Grand Orient Freemasonry. Hence there appears to be an inconsistency in some conspiratorial accounts that can only be reconciled by an understanding of the forces beyond the material or political.
[CTRL] TONYS AFRICAN GENESIS
-Caveat Lector- TONYS AFRICAN GENESIS andrew hennessey Well, he's off again clocking up more 'BlairMiles' on an african safarii to save the great continent from itself - and no doubt Uk arms dealers. he may remember that Princess Diana got a hard time over something similar. Packing his kaftans, and trading beads, Tony is going to sort out the african problem just in time for the next election ... with plenty of soundbytes and photocalls standing beside the remnants of the local AIDS clinic or Warzone. Tony for Nobel Peace Prize, Tony for the UK national health service, Tony for the War on the Terror of Individuality - and Tony for European President. Seat number 666 awaits the Biggest behind in Europe, behind Peter Mandelson of course. Since the 11 september, Tony has been on a mission to save the world - dressing up in local carnival gear and funny hats everywhere he turns up - he may even think of replacing Queen Lizardbirth - yet the gnawing pain in the vitals of the uk cannot go away - laced with poverty and corruption, from health service, rail service, air traffic control - Speaking of which Nigeria was gifted 30 million to help with its debt, then the UK sold it an elaborate air traffic control system for 28 million - great stuff. Tony though is going to 'heal the scars' of africa faster than you can make a cup of nescafe [the latters baby milk is causing epidemics of ill babies who are not being breastfed in africa anymore]. Tony is going to stop the wars and declare africa a terror free zone - and who knows he may even get permission from mandelson and his other bilderburger masters to wipe out the debts of usury that have truly scarred africa into a dark age. Expect BBC news to show caring Tony and the african stick children - Tony smiles benignly and the soundbyte says - 'all in a days work for Nobel Tony ' A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light
-Caveat Lector- the British, who controlled the land gave it to the Jews not the UN the UN has been pretty consistently anti-israel so for your analogy to work, the US govt., who controls the land, would have to give it back to the Indians clearer now? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original dimensions. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:57:34 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light -Caveat Lector- I don't understand your point so I can't agree or disagree. What yo' say? The UN gave a big portion of Palestine to the Jews 50 years ago. Maybe now most of the UN would like the change that but they can't. The justification is found in Law of Return/Right of Return, ie return to the land God gave the Israelites about 3,000 years ago. I think the analogy is spot on. What if the UN were to give a big chunk of Texas back to the Indians, based on a 3,000 year old ancestral claim? POC PS-I recommemd that the Bush estate be right at the centre of the land given back to the Indians. On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, thew wrote: there are a few flaws here most notably your analogy has no one that corresponds to the British in it. rightly or wrongly, the region was part of the British empire, and the British had the right to do with it as they pleased. This is why one has an empire. In you example, then, the US empire needs to be the ones who give the land to the Indians. -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. Edward R. Murrow NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:23:42 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light (fwd) -Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:08:55 -0800 (PST) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light Dear President Bush: Suppose the U.N. were to give a large portion of Texas to the modern Indian people because their ancestors had once inhabited and owned Texas. Then suppose 5,000,000 foreigners claiming to be the rightful inheritors of those lands streamed in, killing tens of thousands of current Texans, seizing their land and driving them from Texas by the millions, traumatizing the men, women and children of Texas daily for 50 years in the process. What would you say? You might very well call the 5,000,000 foreigners, invaders; and thieves; and terrorists. You might lead Texans in fighting daily to reclaim their lands using guns and bombs and all kinds of imported weapons. You would fight for your lands would you not? Especially if you realized that the invaders couldn't even come close to proving that they are the rightful inheritors of the lands of the Ancient Indian peoples any more than many other foreign groups. You would call the invaders terrorists and thieves and impostors. Please tell the Palestinian people why their real circumstance is not like the hypothetical one of the Texans. POC -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] WHO has Right of Return to Israel: The Question of True Israelite Identity Dear CTV: A posting on [EMAIL PROTECTED] apprised me that you are looking for panelists for your Feb. 7 Program on Israel vs. Palestine. I am qualified to be a panelist by having earned my doctorate in philosophy-psychology with thesis and oral defenses in nature-nurture theories or behaviour genetics (U of A, 1971). The relevancy of that has to do with the root issue here which is a claim of inheritance, otherwise referred to as Right of Return or Identity. Let me explain further how this applies to your forthcoming program. BTW, I have cc'd Prime Minister Chretien's office because of the reference below re my letter to Jerusalem Post during his last visit to that region. The Israel vs. Palestine conflict is, at its foundation, a matter of Right of Return. Both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Christians and Muslims lay claim to Right of
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- there was a Persian demon named shaitan. there was an angelic presence by that name in the story of job, but in neither case was Satan THE great adversary of god, the number one host of evil, an all powerful anti-god. to equate them because they are etymologically related is to paint with a brush too broad to give meaning. Jews do not talk about Satanists. it makes no sense in the Jewish mythological world view. the Persians likewise have no shaitan worship that is analogous to what Christians mean when they say Satan worship Satanists, in this context, is a Christian concept. -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Man on the Run [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:20:39 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] Fwd: What really happened on Sept. 11?
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Re: [CTRL] TONYS AFRICAN GENESIS
-Caveat Lector- Lady Amelia Hello gal. Nothing yet but a cold breeze and overcast. Supposed to hit later this afternoon and on into tomorrow. Is about 36 on my porch. Just got in from town. short trip. Glad you got some sleep. Tell the pups to let their mother get some rest. Good idea getting stocked up befor it hits. Thats what I did also. Hope the little ones get home from school and John and Kelly from work befor it hits. This AM said 1 to 3 in of accumulation. Don't blame you for going back to sleep, Tried to myself, but couldn't. Take care and God bless. Joe Andrew Hennessey wrote: -Caveat Lector- TONYS AFRICAN GENESIS andrew hennessey Well, he's off again clocking up more 'BlairMiles' on an african safarii to save the great continent from itself - and no doubt Uk arms dealers. he may remember that Princess Diana got a hard time over something similar. Packing his kaftans, and trading beads, Tony is going to sort out the african problem just in time for the next election ... with plenty of soundbytes and photocalls standing beside the remnants of the local AIDS clinic or Warzone. Tony for Nobel Peace Prize, Tony for the UK national health service, Tony for the War on the Terror of Individuality - and Tony for European President. Seat number 666 awaits the Biggest behind in Europe, behind Peter Mandelson of course. Since the 11 september, Tony has been on a mission to save the world - dressing up in local carnival gear and funny hats everywhere he turns up - he may even think of replacing Queen Lizardbirth - yet the gnawing pain in the vitals of the uk cannot go away - laced with poverty and corruption, from health service, rail service, air traffic control - Speaking of which Nigeria was gifted 30 million to help with its debt, then the UK sold it an elaborate air traffic control system for 28 million - great stuff. Tony though is going to 'heal the scars' of africa faster than you can make a cup of nescafe [the latters baby milk is causing epidemics of ill babies who are not being breastfed in africa anymore]. Tony is going to stop the wars and declare africa a terror free zone - and who knows he may even get permission from mandelson and his other bilderburger masters to wipe out the debts of usury that have truly scarred africa into a dark age. Expect BBC news to show caring Tony and the african stick children - Tony smiles benignly and the soundbyte says - 'all in a days work for Nobel Tony ' A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/5/02 11:54:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Satanists, in this context, is a Christian concept. True. But you forgot Lucfer, the light bearer. The orginal bad child. The one who said, I will not serve. He also is part of this bad/evil thing. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) [PNEWS] EMPIRE: Welcome to the United States of Smirkist
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Cactuspat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the United States of Smirkistan Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.- Julius Caesar My fellow Smirkistanis. Yes, that's right. Make no mistake about it. My fellow Smirkistanis, by virtue of the resounding successes of the CIA orchestrated attacks of 911 and the corporate media/military Psyops propaganda war upon the hearts and minds of the citizens of the U.S., my personal popularity is now higher than that of any elected American president in history. I'm now more popular than Allah or even Jaysus H. Christ himself. Accordingly, I, Smirkala W. Bushghazi, do now hereby declare, through Imperious Executive Order(IEO) #911, that from this day forward the name of our formerly great nation be changed to the United States of Smirkistan. Attorney General Mullah Mohammed Asscrack says I can. I fully intend to continue and expand the Global War of Aggression and Corporate Colonization(GWACC). Any country(s) that does not fully support my efforts to ensure transglobal corporate security and colonization will be considered to be a member of the Axis of Evil and should prepare their citizens to be indiscriminately bombed back into the stone age. Thanks to the Tyranny Acts of 2001, my Bushghazi Junta has been handed more power to use against its citizens than any previous, legal administration. The Tyranny Acts will be fully implemented to assure Transglobal Corporate Security here at home and abroad. Henceforth, any and all residents of the United States of Smirkistan are now to be suspected evil doers of terrorist activities. I warn all, citizen and non-citizen alike, of the following changes to Smirkistani Corporate Law. All electronic communication can and will be intercepted and analyzed without search warrants. Phone calls, voice mail, cell phones, faxes, beeper messages, emails, CB and short wave radio, walkie talkies, and surfing the internet. All information obtained during criminal investigations is to be shared and distributed to the FBI, NSA, CIA, INS, Secret Service, and military without any judicial review, with no limits to how these agencies can use the information once it is obtained. This includes, but is not limited to, confidential grand jury testimony, tax records, banking and investment records, business records, credit reports, health records, employment records, travel history, education records, library records, and video rentals. Sneak and Peek Searches are authorized for secret searches for any criminal investigation, allowing the government to enter your home or office and conduct a search, take photographs, and download your computer files without notifying you. Law enforcement can shop for warrants in any court in any jurisdiction where it is conducting an investigation for a search anywhere in the country. Judges are forbidden to deny these requests or even inquire as to why they are being requested. This makes it near impossible for individuals subjected to searches to challenge the warrant. A new type of crime, Domestic Terrorism has been created, which is necessary for prosecuting of the War of Global Aggression and Corporate Colonization(GWACC). By expanding the definition of terrorism, the Tyranny Acts of 2001 will allow the government to levy heavy penalties for minor offenses, including political protests, affiliations, and dissent. The CIA is now allowed to spy on all Smirkistanis. The Director of Central Intelligence now has the power to gather intelligence inside Smirkistan and demand the disclosure of information obtained by the FBI to the CIA- even if it is about law-abiding Smirkistani citizens. Wiretap authority is expanded to include minimum judicial supervision of law enforcement wiretaps, including the equivalent of blank check warrants, intelligence wiretaps that need not specify the phone to be tapped or require that only the target's conversations be eavesdropped upon, and allowing the FBI to use its intelligence(FISA) authority to circumvent judicial review of the probable cause requirement of the Fourth Amendment. A de facto suspension of habeas corpus now permits authorities to indefinitely detain any suspected evildoer without legal counsel, and without meaningful judicial review. Non-citizen and citizen alike can expect
Re: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, thew wrote: the British, who controlled the land gave it to the Jews not the UN the UN has been pretty consistently anti-israel Recently, yes. But I thought it was the UN which created both the State of Israel and the State of Palestine in 1947 and SET THE BORDERS and I though Jerusalem was designated as an INTERNATIONAL city. Maybe somebody on the FreePalestine list can clarify this. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Catherine Austin Fitts, Solari, on NY Times Drug Policy Forum Tonight, February 5, 2002
---BeginMessage--- == Determined to use semi-slave labor and put American workers on the street, US corporate demand for H-1B visas was up 14% from 2000. The US is in a recession and 342,035 were applied for. 50% went to China and India for computer related jobs. 163,200 were accepted, up 40%, after Congress, under pressure from the technology industry, raised the cap. This is disgusting. Robert Chapman, International Forecaster, February 2, 2002 Catherine Austin Fitts, author of Hold the Line: Harvard Watch's Trading Truth: A Report on Harvard's Enron Entanglements will return as the guest on line in the New York Times Drug Policy Forum this evening at 8pm EST. === I will be responding to Forum participants questions. I hope to touch on efforts of America's leadership during the Clinton Administration --- continuing in the Bush Administration --- to slow down broad based community access to reengineering tools and skills necessary to ensure employment and financial sustainability in the face of anticipated movement of bank and corporate employment and government and pension capital offshore. I will connect the dots between layoffs, immigration of high tech workers, and the War on Drugs (the HUD-Harvard-DynCorp Connection) and why the Department of Justice is letting Enron shred documents and move money and assets off shore without interference from federal investigators. My goal is to help create a map and process that will play to win on the deterioration of our Bill of Rights AND help us reengineer the financial system back to one with integrity --- by each one of us taking back our neighborhood and networking with the other 63,000 neighborhoods in America and the millions globally. See you tonight! Catherine Austin Fitts Solari == To sign up for use of the NY Times webpage: http://www.nytimes.com To join in, go to: NY Times Forum Page: http://forums.nytimes.com/comment/ NY Times Drug Policy Forum Page: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?[EMAIL PROTECTED]^857210@.f0c5fae === LINKS === WHAT IS A SOLARI? WHAT IS THE SOLARI INDEX? WHO CAN START A SOLARI? THE SOLARI STOCK PLAN; SOLARI A's SOLARI B's THE SOLARI ACTION NETWORK http://www.solari.com/solari/index.html http://www.solari.com/trust/index.html http://www.solari.com/action/index.html RISK MANAGEMENT FOR BUILDING THE SOLARI NETWORK Articles: Narco Dollars for Dummies: http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars1.html http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars2.html and http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars3.html The Myth of the Rule of Law: The Destruction of Hamilton Securities: http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~aahpat/q301.pdf Hold the Line: Harvard Watch's Trading Truth: A Report on Harvard's Enron Entanglements http://www.truthout.com/02.02G.Harvard.Watch.htm Cui Bono: Building a Map to Solve the Crime: http://www.narconews.com/cuibono.html A Collection of Essays and Articles by Fitts: http://www.solari.com/gideon/articles/index.html Collection of Articles at DrugWars.com: http://www.drugwar.com/catherineaustinfittsindex.shtm Community Development vs. Covert Operations http://www.solari.com/trust/CIDandCIA.html Interviews: Drug Sense Forum (December 2001): http://www.mapinc.org/tlcnews/v01/n2024/a03.htm?203 NY Times Drug Forum (December 2001): http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/11/national/05DPTRAN.html?searchpv=past7days NY Times Drug Forum Panel (January 2002): http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/10/readersopinions/07DPTRAN.html Black Op Radio #57 - December 20, 2001 REAL AUDIO: Part 1: http://24.76.144.203/fiasco/black/black57b.ram Part 2: http://24.76.144.203/fiasco/black/black57c.ram ARCHIVED ARTICLES RE STARTING A SOLARI Backcasting: Report to Shareholders http://www.solari.com/trust/Popsicle%20Culture.PDF The Importance of Place Based Data http://www.solari.com/trust/databanks.html The Power of Pop: http://www.solari.com/trust/databanks.html Doing a Solari and Equity Capital in an Integrated Model http://www.solari.com/trust/SolariStockCorps.PDF ABOUT CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS: Bio http://www.solari.com/about/ca_fitts.html Articles About Efforts to Stop Fitts Community Access to Place Based Data and Equity Capital http://www.solari.com/media/articles%20on%20gideon.htm Scoop Media's Catherine Austin Fitts, Enemy of the State Series: HUD Fraud, Spooks and the Slumlords of Harvard, Uri Dowbenko http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0202/S00013.htm DOJ Lies, Uri Dowbenko http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0202/S00014.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) [PNEWS] EMPIRE: Welcome to the United States of Smirkist
-Caveat Lector- That does it Cactusput - I am joining the Taliban. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- Man on the Run wrote: -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates Satan is Christian. It is not Jewish at all though there may be discussions of such a concept. In those days before science and rationalism, almost everyone's world view was superstitious nonsense. Satan is the other major component of Christian Dualism which is based in GREEK, not Judaic culture. Jesus is the all good god of goodness, and Satan is the all bad god of evil. Y'know... good cop, bad cop. Thew is right to say that in order to take Satanism seriously, you must come from a Christian superstitious mindset. Islam incorporated many ideas from both Judaism and Christianity. That's why that have a Shaytan. Dualism is the simplest form of complexity. Philosophy light ( as in not heavy ). Read Dualism for Dummies by Abbot and Costello. It's only two pages. Joshua2 thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
[CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: FAIR-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: [FAIR-L] NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTIVISM UPDATE: NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm February 5, 2002 On January 10, FAIR put out an Action Alert asking people to write to National Public Radio about an apparent blind spot in its Middle East reporting. NPR had been referring to the situation in Israel and Palestine around the New Year as a time of relative calm or comparative quiet, explaining at one point that only one Israeli has been killed in those three weeks. What NPR didn't explain was that during this quiet period, an average of one Palestinian per day was being killed by Israeli occupation forces. (See http://www.fair.org/activism/npr-israel-quiet.html .) In answer to our alert, at least several hundred people wrote to NPR, calling for Middle East reporting that paid attention to the victims of violence on all sides. Yet even as these letters were pouring in, NPR continued to present the same distorted view of the conflict. All Things Considered anchor Noah Adams opened a January 14 report on the assassination of a Palestinian militia leader, and the militia's revenge murder of an Israeli civilian, by declaring that deadly violence returned to the Middle East today--as if deadly violence hadn't been happening to Palestinians on an almost daily basis all along. On the January 17 All Things Considered, anchor Melissa Block prefaced a question by asserting, Until early this week there'd been almost a month of relatively reduced violence there-- a premise that was not corrected by correspondent Linda Gradstein. And on January 18, correspondent Peter Kenyon referred on Morning Edition to the recent lull in violence. NPR ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin, to whom the activists' letters were addressed, does seem to recognize the problem. Appearing on January 17 with media critic Ali Abunimah on WJHU, a Baltimore NPR affiliate, Dvorkin agreed with the criticism and said that NPR's foreign desk had told hosts and correspondents to reflect the reality of the situation. But this intervention does not seem to have resulted in changed coverage-- in fact, two of the repetitions of the distortion noted above occurred within the next 24 hours. Even as late as January 30, Linda Gradstein was referring to the period of relative calm, as if no one had ever pointed out to NPR that this characterization ignored the deaths of dozens of Palestinians. Despite the hundreds of individual letters he has received, Dvorkin has yet to issue a formal comment on the issue. But in a brief January 25 response to a FAIR activist, Dvorkin wrote, After FAIR pointed out the phrase 'relative calm,' NPR corrected that inaccuracy in future reports. In fact, the inaccuracy was repeated, and keeps being repeated. Something seems to be amiss in the way NPR handles legitimate complaints from the public. ACTION: Please write to NPR ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin and ask him to respond substantively to the hundreds of letters he has received about NPR's Mideast coverage, including an explanation of how NPR can repeat the same distortion after it has been corrected. CONTACT: Jeffrey Dvorkin NPR Ombudsman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Feel free to respond to FAIR ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). We can't reply to everything, but we will look at each message. We especially appreciate documented example of media bias or censorship. And please send copies of your email correspondence with media outlets, including any responses, to us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . FAIR ON THE AIR: FAIR's founder Jeff Cohen is a regular panelist on the Fox News Channel's Fox News Watch, which airs which airs Saturdays at 6:30 pm (Eastern Standard Time). Check your local listings. FAIR produces CounterSpin, a weekly radio show heard on over 130 stations in the U.S. and Canada. To find the CounterSpin station nearest you, visit http://www.fair.org/counterspin/stations.html . Please support FAIR by subscribing to our bimonthly magazine, Extra! For more information, go to: http://www.fair.org/extra/subscribe.html . Or call 1-800-847-3993. FAIR's INTERNSHIP PROGRAM: FAIR accepts internship applications for its New York office on a rolling basis. For more information, see: http://www.fair.org/internships.html You can subscribe to FAIR-L at our web site: http://www.fair.org , or by sending a subscribe FAIR-L enter your full name command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Our subscriber list is kept confidential. You may leave the list at any time-- just send a message with SIGNOFF FAIR-L in the body to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[CTRL] Bush Seeks To Restrict Hill Probes Of Sept. 11 -- Intelligence Panels' Secrecy Is Favored
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59376-2002Jan30.html - Bush Seeks To Restrict Hill Probes Of Sept. 11 Intelligence Panels' Secrecy Is Favored By Mike Allen Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, January 30, 2002; Page A04 President Bush asked House and Senate leaders yesterday to allow only two congressional committees to investigate the government's response to the events of Sept. 11, officials said. The president said the inquiry should be limited to the House and Senate intelligence committees, whose proceedings are generally secret. Senate Democratic leaders want a broader investigation, involving some committees that would be free to air their findings. The focus of the committee probes is likely to center on intelligence failures preceding the terrorist attacks that killed about 3,100 people. A senior administration official said Congress is already well set up through the intelligence committees to review intelligence matters, and those committees have a history of working with secret and classified documents that other committees lack. . . . The president thinks it's important for Congress to review events in a way that does not unduly burden the defense and intelligence communities as they are still charged with fighting a war. Capitol Hill sources said Bush made the request of Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) during a breakfast meeting with congressional leaders. The White House would not confirm that. The congressional sources said Vice President Cheney called Daschle last week with the same request. Daschle told reporters that Cheney had expressed the concern that a review of what happened on September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism. Daschle said the probe will start with the Intelligence Committee in an effort to limit the scope and the overall review of what happened. But clearly I think the American people are entitled to know what happened and why at some point, just as they were desirous of knowing what happened after the Pearl Harbor attack, Daschle said. We did that right during the early stages of World War II. So we haven't made any conclusions yet. A Senate Democratic aide said one objection to limiting the investigation is that most of what the Intelligence Committee does is behind closed doors and never sees the light of day. If there is an issue, the public deserves to know about it. The two intelligence committees are planning a joint, bipartisan investigation. The Democratic aide said lawmakers are expected to look into what was known before Sept. 11 about the possibility of a major attack, why our intelligence wasn't better -- why we didn't know, how different parts of the government responded, and perhaps whether the government is prepared for a future attack. © 2002 The Washington Post Company - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] House Panel: Whereabouts of Enron's Lay a Mystery
-Caveat Lector- Lay is too smart to let himself be suicided - he must have enough dirt on his bushbuddies to really sink them if he turned up missing - andrew hennessey - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] House Panel: Whereabouts of Enron's Lay a Mystery -Caveat Lector- How long do ya think it will be before Lay turns up suicided? --- Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: House Panel: Whereabouts of Enron's Lay a Mystery __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mexico Seeks Better Cuba Relations
-Caveat Lector- Mexico Seeks Better Cuba Relations Cuba's Foreign Minister Roque Talks About Visit From Vicente Fox (AP) Cuba recognises mexicos claim to texas and the american south and the State of Aztlan is reborn. The Mysterious Zorro starts annoying the Governor of Texas and repeatedly escapes execution. Under NWO legislation in deference to ethnic origins Texas get renamed the Lone Taco State and becomes the sole distributor for havana cigars in the Federation of North America. Some americans, still believing that they are part of a constituted union of american states - cannot accept that the Federation of North America is the Homeland of many Ethnic clusters and complain to the governor of texas about their constitutional 'rights' - but they are arrested as fundamental terrorists. They get tried by a secret military tribunal and Zorro gets his own network TV show. andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- does the Jewish historian Josephus mention Sataniel in his section on angels in the History of the Jews ?? andrew - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign -Caveat Lector- Man on the Run wrote: -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates Satan is Christian. It is not Jewish at all though there may be discussions of such a concept. In those days before science and rationalism, almost everyone's world view was superstitious nonsense. Satan is the other major component of Christian Dualism which is based in GREEK, not Judaic culture. Jesus is the all good god of goodness, and Satan is the all bad god of evil. Y'know... good cop, bad cop. Thew is right to say that in order to take Satanism seriously, you must come from a Christian superstitious mindset. Islam incorporated many ideas from both Judaism and Christianity. That's why that have a Shaytan. Dualism is the simplest form of complexity. Philosophy light ( as in not heavy ). Read Dualism for Dummies by Abbot and Costello. It's only two pages. Joshua2 thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- - -- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html
Re: [CTRL] ALBERT PIKE NAMES 3 ARCHANGELS IN MORALS DOGMA
-Caveat Lector- For whatever its worth. Albert Pike listed the three who rebelled. Sataniel. Lucifer. Ahrimann. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign -Caveat Lector- does the Jewish historian Josephus mention Sataniel in his section on angels in the History of the Jews ?? andrew - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign -Caveat Lector- Man on the Run wrote: -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates Satan is Christian. It is not Jewish at all though there may be discussions of such a concept. In those days before science and rationalism, almost everyone's world view was superstitious nonsense. Satan is the other major component of Christian Dualism which is based in GREEK, not Judaic culture. Jesus is the all good god of goodness, and Satan is the all bad god of evil. Y'know... good cop, bad cop. Thew is right to say that in order to take Satanism seriously, you must come from a Christian superstitious mindset. Islam incorporated many ideas from both Judaism and Christianity. That's why that have a Shaytan. Dualism is the simplest form of complexity. Philosophy light ( as in not heavy ). Read Dualism for Dummies by Abbot and Costello. It's only two pages. Joshua2 thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- - -- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
[CTRL] Pentagon 'crash?' NOT! EXPLOSIVES used, as with WTC demolition!!
---BeginMessage--- x ** TOP_VIEW ** x The Bigger Picture 2.05.02 Pentagon 'crash?' NOT! EXPLOSIVES used, as with WTC demolition!! We here at TOP_VIEW will put ourselves on the line in saying that John DiNardo is a person of great integrity and VERY HIGH CREDIBILITY. If DiNardo says that hard evidence exists showing EXPLOSIVES were used to demolish the PENTAGON, then such evidence definitely DOES exist. Considering the TOWER of hard evidence proving the WTC twin towers were actually crumbled to the ground by use of internal explosives detonated long AFTER the hijacked planes struck the towers, it's certainly not surprising to find out that the SAME methods were used to destroy a section of the Pentagon. What's VERY interesting about THIS is that unlike the situation with the WTC towers, the plane which supposedly hit the Pentagon -- AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight SEVENTY-SEVEN -- did NOT hit it at ALL, but crashed into the helipad alongside the five-sided arch-Satanist temple. A nearby resident and EYEWITNESS named Tim Timmerman, interviewed on CNN right after the incident, affirmed that Flight 77 DID NOT hit the Pentagon building AT ALL, but indeed impacted onto the helipad! This means that the arch-Satanist/Illuminati/CommuNazi/NWO/CFR/BushMob globalist TRAITORS who shut down the US air defense system and then bombed the WTC towers on September 11, ALSO bombed their own PENTAGON, just to MAKE IT ALL LOOK GOOD! = = = = = = = = = 1/31/02 Pentagon Crash? NOT! From John DiNardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Over a week ago, I sent this message to AmericanFreedomNews.com; a daily shortwave radio anti-NewWorldOrder news program broadcast over WWCR 5.070 Megahertz at 9 PM EST. I'm glad people are beginning to realize what my C-SPAN videotapes clearly show -- that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. THEY PLANTED EXPLOSIVES INSIDE AND TOOK OUT THE PILLARS! Am I the only one who is investigating the likelihood that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon? I got a reply to my inquiry from Jackie Patru, a shortwave radio host. She sent me an e-mail affirming my claim that the plane did not crash into the Pentagon. She says that it crashed into the helipad near the Pentagon. It was witnessed by Tim Timmerman, a nearby resident who was interviewed on CNN one time only. His testimony was quickly buried. Now I tell you to go back to the news photos of the Pentagon damage. Gen. Partin needs to examine those photos. It looks to me like they took out the support pillars with planted explosives. I have the C-SPAN footage of the exterior and interior damage broadcast on the Saturday following 9/11. If this is true, then it constitutes strong evidence that the New World Order perpetrators were also implicated in the Twin Towers attacks and explosions. John DiNardo ---End Message---
[CTRL] Overview of Israeli Intelligence Operations In The United States
---BeginMessage--- Overview of Israeli Intelligence Operations In The United States LaRouche, LaRouche, LaRouche Is On Fire (We Don't Need No Water ...) ;-) 2/5/02 11:04:24 AM LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review Washington, DC -- http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2850megaspies_story.html This article appears in the December 28, 2001 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. EIR Blows Israeli Spies' Cover in Sept. 11 Case by Jeffrey Steinberg and Edward Spannaus Years of tracking down an important set of drug-trafficking cases, led EIR investigators to what has now become a contender for the story of the new century: the investigation of connections between detained Israeli spies and the events of Sept. 11. The opening gun of this earth-shaking story, was EIR's own, Nov. 29, 2001 release, which was circulated to subscribers in the Dec. 4, 2001 Executive Alert Service. To appreciate the significance of the EIR expose properly, it is crucial to first restate some essential features of Lyndon LaRouche's now-undisputable assessment of the events of Sept. 11, first aired on the Jack Stockwell radio show, as the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were still occurring. LaRouche stated that the New York and Washington attacks could not have occurred without the witting complicity of high-level rogue elements within the U.S. military-intelligence command structures. The actions of Sept. 11 constituted a coup d'état attempt against the Bush Administration, aimed at drawing the United States into precisely the kind of Clash of Civilizations Eurasian war, openly advocated by such individuals as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samuel Huntington, and Bush Administration moles like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle. The Israeli government of Ariel Sharon and the present Israeli Defense Force command is the most significant asset of the Anglo-American faction pressing the Clash of Civilizations war-plan, as evidenced by Sharon's persistent efforts to provoke a new religious war in the Middle East against the Palestinian Authority and a range of other Arab targets. Thus the events of Sept. 11 and the ongoing coup threat must be first understood from the standpoint of the interaction of these three elements: 1.) the as-yet unidentified rogue operators within the military-security command; 2.) the strategic policy figures promoting the new Eurasian Thirty Years War; and 3.) the Israeli apparatus of Sharon and the IDF. It is the latter, the IDF, which, as part of its war aims, has carried out an aggressive espionage and covert operations penetration of the U.S.A., including the recruitment of American-born assets. It is so far unknown, but strongly suspected, that some of these Israeli assets may have contributed an included feature of the rogue networks whose complicity abetted the successful attacks of Sept. 11. With that said, the story can be told. The Jones-Powell Exchange That Executive Alert Service item of Dec. 4 reported, under the headline, A Sharon spy network in the Americas?, that A well-placed Washington source has alerted EIR that there is growing suspicion among U.S. government law enforcement and intelligence agencies that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has dispatched special operations teams into North America. The warning came in the context of a discussion about the recent deportation of five Israelis who were detained on Sept. 11 for suspicious behavior. Since Secretary of State Colin Powell's answer to a question from EIR's Washington Bureau Chief Bill Jones, at a Dec. 13 special State Department briefing, the lid is off the Israeli spy scandal and suggestions of its links to the Sept. 11 irregular warfare attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagondespite desperate efforts at suppressing the Israeli spy story by most leading news media. At the Dec. 13 State Department briefing, Jones asked Powell: There were 60 Israeli citizens who have been picked up in the post-Sept. 11 sweep, many of whom, if not all of whom, are connected to Israeli intelligence. . . Are you concerned about such intelligence operations on U.S. soil, and have you taken up this issue with your counterpart in Israel? Secretary Powell responded: I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained, and I've been in touch with the Israeli government as to the fact that they have been detained, in making sure that they have rights of access to Israeli diplomatic personnel here in the United States. With respect to why they are being detained, and the other aspects of your question, whether it's because they are in intelligence services or what things they were doing, I will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI to answer that; because, frankly, I deal with the consular parts of that problem, not the intelligence or law-enforcement parts of that problem. Spies, Criminals, and Terrorists What was behind that exchange between Jones and Powell? Since the Alert report of the Israeli spy
Re: [CTRL] JEWS WHO ARE NOT REAL JEWS
-Caveat Lector- It wouldnt just be the ZIONISTS. You would have to count the KHAZARS. And the BRITISH ISRAELITES. Who knows the ZIONISTS might actually be Jews. But the KHAZARS and the BRITISH ISRAELITES are true impostors. -Original Message- From: Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Satan in the Old Testament and In Early Jewish Apocryphal Writings So Andrew what about this - more than one son of God - but beware of those who say they are jews and are not - are these Zionists? Chapter Book 9: Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Osaba Satan in the Old Testament and In Early Jewish Apocryphal Writings The name Satan is derived from a root meaning 'to oppose' or 'to be or to act as an adversary.' In some cases, he is not necessarily maleviolent and he may have even been sent by the Lord to prevent worse harm (such as in Numbers). Examples of passages using this early interpretation include: But God was incensed at his going; so an angel of the LORD placed himself in his was as an adversary [Hebrew: satan] - Numbers 22:22 He shall not march down with us to the battle, or else he may become an adversary [Heb: satan] in battle. - 1 Samuel 29:4 Appoint a wicked man over him; may an accuser [Heb: satan] stand at his right side. - Psalm 109:6 Satan possesses no real demonic qualities in the OT writings. He is mentioned as a distinct personality in 3 passages. These passages are thought to be post-exilic and are dated between 519 and 300 BCE. He further showed me Joshua, the high priest, standing before the angel of the LORD, and the Satan standing at his right to accuse him. - Zechariah 3:1 Here, Satan becomes an official title of a distinct personality, but it is not used as a proper name because it is still used with the article the. One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and the satan came along with them. The LORD said to the Adversary, 'Where have you been?' Satan answered the LORD, 'I have been roaming all over the earth.' The LORD said to Satan, Have you noticed my servant Job? - Job 1:6-8 In this passage, the Satan is the servant of God, whose job is not only to accuse man, but he also urges God to test Job. He does nothing without the permission of God. He appears along with the other 'ben Elohim' (sons of God) implying that he is one of the angel-ministers of Yahweh. Also, this passage shows that while he acts in accordance with God's permission, he seems as if he would be pleased if he could prove that Job wasn't as loyal to God as God claimed. Despite this, he remains an angel. Satan arose against Israel and incited David to number Israel. - 1 Chronicles 21:1 (origin of GENOCIDE saba note?) This passage is a later version of the passage in 2 Samuel 24:1 The anger of the LORD again flared up against Israel; and He incited David against them, saying, 'Go and number Israel and Judah.' While the author attributes the census to Satan, he insists that David was personally responsible for his actions and therefore guilty of breaking God's law. Satan's substitution for the Lord indicates that he was thought of as the destructive power of God. Rabbinic Literature gives two accounts for the origin of Satan. The first is that Satan was created on the sixth day at the same time as Eve. This ties in with the tradition that Satan played some part in the fall of man. The second and more prevalent tradition is that Satan is one of the fallen angels. Satan is identified with Sammael and his deeds. In T.B. Baba Bathra (16a), Satan is identified with the Yetzer ha Ra, which is the 'evil impulse' in man. The Talmud distinguishes between the personified Satan outside man, and the Yetzer ha Ra that exists within man. It is this evil impulse within man that allows Satan the opportunity to work his will against man. Rabbinic writings also foreshadow the destruction of Satan. T.B. Succah (52a) talks of the destruction of the evil angel, while the Yalkut Jesaj (359) implies that Satan will be overthrown at a future time by the Messiah, referring to Psalm 36:9. The general belief is that there are a class of satans with a chief Satan. For example, in 1 Enoch, there are 5 Satans. The first and second are said to have been responsible for leading astray the angels and for bringing them down to earth, where they sinned with the daughters of men (69:4), while the third brought about the fall of Adam and Eve (69:6). The satans are allowed to access heaven in order to accuse men, but they are not confined to heaven. See: Essentials of Demonology by Edward Langton The Devil by Jeffrey Burton Russell Origin of Satan by Elaine Pagels A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A
[CTRL] Scottish X files.co.uk FREE on NIGHTSEARCH.net
-Caveat Lector- Listen Free on NIGHTSEARCH.NET ** password CHALICE ** SCOTTISHXFILES.CO.UK on nightsearch.net at 5pm EST wednesday. with your host Andrew Hennessey MIND KONTROL IN THE UK scottish x files wednesday 6/2/02 5pm est special guests [dangerous] Dave Moncoeur has been researching UK mind control for many years, fearlessly putting himself in danger where people are being hurt. This week dave talks about the incredible ELF and Mind Control Programme in the UK with reference to the alleged suicides of some of the UKs top scientists. it will also feature further contribution from george farquhar a person dedicated to exposing the psychiatric industry in the UK and its ties with mind control A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Groom Lake Garbage Is Classified
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020130-11.html Presidential Letter to Congress Text of a Letter from the President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate January 30, 2002 Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:) Consistent with section 6001(a) of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) (the "Act"), as amended, 42 U.S.C. 6961(a), notification is hereby given that on September 18, 2001, I issued Presidential Determination 2001-27 (copy attached) and thereby exercised the authority to grant certain exemptions under section 6001(a) of the Act. Presidential Determination 2001-27 exempted the United States Air Force's operating location near Groom Lake, Nevada, from any Federal, State, interstate, or local hazardous or solid waste laws that might require the disclosure of classified information concerning that operating location to unauthorized persons. Information concerning activities at the operating location near Groom Lake has been properly determined to be classified, and its disclosure would be harmful to national security. Continued protection of this information is, therefore, in the paramount interest of the United States. The determination was not intended to imply that, in the absence of a Presidential exemption, RCRA or any other provision of law permits or requires the disclosure of classified information to unauthorized persons. The determination also was not intended to limit the applicability or enforcement of any requirement of law applicable to the Air Force's operating location near Groom Lake except those provisions, if any, that might require the disclosure of classified information. Sincerely, GEORGE W. BUSH
[CTRL] Sartre:The Bush Crusade Against Terrorism
http://pages.zdnet.com/sartre/RULES/id10.html The Bush Crusade Against Terrorism Our holy father, President George W. Bush has embarked on a quest that will muster the faithful of righteousness against the forces of darkness. Or so we are led to believe. Where have we heard such appeals to fight a bitter war to make the world safe for Democracy. This time the only resemblance to democratic self determination is a required acceptance of the New World Order. American Foreign Policy seldom changes no matter who holds office. The model of Woodrow Wilson http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/nf/record/wilson/wilsonfp.htmlis very much alive, and President Bush is faithful to its tenants. "Woodrow Wilson's foreign policy was based on an altruistic yearning to impart the benefits of constitutional democracy on other nations. To his detractors, his approach was seen as being condescending and naive. His noble intentions did not prevent him from exercising military force when he ordered the seizure of the port of Veracruz as a way of aiding a counterrevolution in Mexico and later sending an expedition into Mexico in pursuit of Pancho Villa. Wilson's core belief that a "moral force controlled the relations of peace" would shape his attitude and actions during World War I, and most definitively, in its aftermath, when he sought US participation in a world league." The NWO has historically been used by internationalists to describe their goal to unite the globe politically, economically and culturally. As we are told that terrorism has become the greatest threat to the entire world, we are being prepared for the further conflicts against an "axis of evil". But when have criminal acts been transformed into a crusade against every country that opposes the demands of the global community. We were told that the perpetrators of 911 must be brought to justice. Most would fully agree with that objective. Now the mission is to eliminate any nation that harbors and assists those elements that are remotely connected or have sympathy for their cause. Anyone see a similarity with the Wilson approach for world peace? Even in the infamous Fourteen Points, self-determination was the cornerstone of purpose for the world peace that it would bring. While the Wilson model has proven to be most resilient, has it produced any semblance in deeds with all the lofty promises that would follow from accepting its directives? Bush seems to be playing the role of a 21th century William Gladstone and Edmund Burke, in the cloak of Pope Urban II. The fervor that the American public has showered upon the war time leader is understandable. But is anyone willing to question the wisdom and practicality of throwing down the gantlet to use or loose those weapons of mass destruction? No one disputes the ill intentions of North Korea, or the repressive regime that rules like a feudal fiefdom. But is a public challenge the best way to curb the risks that we all seek to diminish? Wilson was an advocate of a federation of nations under the rubric know as democracies. Now Bush pushes the stakes to reflect the 'world community' vision, as an even more comprehensive extension of a league of nations. The need for individual self-determination may sound like a worthy goal, but let no country attempt to act in a manner that opposes the will of international rule. Peace has never been the objective of the United Nations or the foreign policies of the major powers. As long as forced compliance under their regulations are required for acceptability into the club, constant conflict will be assured. For the proponents of engagement to admit that their efforts have failed, is the only alternative the rattling of sabers that may well spill over into a river of blood? World stability offers a desired reward for average people. It is a natural hope for mankind. But who truly believes that the course to cordial relations resides upon the ashes of continual reciprocation. If every advocate in the world dedicated to the overthrow of the NWO shrunk into a docile feline, would the interests that serve the 'world community', allow the self-determination of those that reject the order that produces so much disorder? Wilson had his Colonel Edward House to steer the rudder of state. Bush has a CFR crowd to give advice. Is there anyone who dares argue against the policies in the Wilsonian tradition? Seems that having the courage to challenge the 'stop at the water's edge' bipartisan dogma, is the kiss of death to any career. We have heard the calls to add Bush Jr alongside the bust of Teddy Roosevelt. Rushmore doesn't need another tyrant joining Abe and TR. There is only one George and his name ends in Washington. Icons can easily become false images, especially when their canons betray the populist interest. It was Wilson who said: "I am going to teach the South American republics to elect good men". Now we are supposed to accept the Bush doctrine. "Either you are
[CTRL] Martin-The Looting of America (Reagonomics, Clintonomics Enronomics)
http://www.almartinraw.com/index.html The Looting of America Reagonomics, Clintonomics Enronomics by Al Martin Reaganomics has never worked and it can not be defended. When you see TV pundits like Larry Kudlow and Bill Seidman defending Reaganomics, you must understand that they are not pure economists. They are political economists, and they owe their careers to the Republican Party. Both Kudlow and Seidman make their money as senior economists for the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, other Republican so-called think tanks, economic research institutes and socio-economic forums. Bill Seidman, of course, was the former chairman of the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC), where there were many allegations of fraud. When the RTC was charged with cleaning up the SL mess, it promptly proceeded to sell off a lot of property at very favorable prices to well-known Republicans and Republican interests. No matter what Republican political economists says, Reaganomics in the final analysis can not be justified because you can not defend the indefensible. You cannot get around the fact that the Reagan Bush Regime came into office with a $1 trillion accumulated National Debt and the Social Security Fund (both the General Fund and Disability Fund) was fully funded. They came into office with all the other 43 Public Trust Funds, such as the Indian Affairs Fund and the National Reclamation Fund, fully intact and funded. Most importantly, they came into office with the United States being the largest creditor nation on earth. Twelve years later, when the Reagan Bush Regime left office, they had expanded the National Debt from $1 trillion to $5.65 trillion. They had created a total long-term deficit in the Social Security General and Disability Trust Funds of some $3.2 trillion. Then in 1983, they started to say that we are henceforth going to count social security contributions as surpluses to the Fund, and we will count them now as General Revenue. To offset the drain, we will place non-marketable, long-term, US Treasury Bonds with a 3% coupon rate into the Social Security Trust Funds. In other words, we will stuff the Social Security Fund with worthless paper. The Reagan Bush Regime tried to say that these were US Treasury Securities but they were restricted and non-marketable. That which is restricted and non-marketable, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission, is a worthless instrument -- whether that instrument is government, corporate or whatever. By the end of Reaganomics (when George Bush left office in January 1993), the public treasury was spilling red ink at the rate of $2 billion per day, approximately twice what the Bush Administration said the deficit was. The fact remains that the deficits, during the Reagan Bush Regime, were consistently twice as high as what was publicly revealed. Due to the "voodoo economics" of the Reagan Bush Regime, they were able to hide the deficits in a variety of ways, principally by this egregious and nonsensical Reaganomics technique called "off budget deficit financing." When they were deciding budgetary matters in Congress, they would say, "We'll put this $8 billion 'off budget' or this $12 billion 'off budget.'" What this meant was that "off budget financing" was simply money, being spent currently, which was not being recorded as having been spent currently. It was simply an accounting trick. It was also like maintaining two sets of books, wherein you can spend money, say $8 billion, but instead of putting it in the deficit column, it shows up as a zero figure and the $8 billion deficit is transferred to your second set of books called "off budget financing." The problem with "off budget financing" (and the reason why the Treasury Department to this day can not balance its books) is that this is money, which still has to be raised through the regular sales of US Treasury bills bonds and notes. What happened was that the sale of these bills, bonds and notes for off budget financing was put in a separate category, not as actual liability or actual debt of the US Government, but future contingent debt. Future contingent debt is debt that is not immediately due, payable, or honorable by the US Government. It was only due and payable, when said notes were presented for redemption -- whenever their term or maturities ran out. In other words, "contingent" means upon redemption at a future date. There is a parallel between this tactic of Reaganomics and the latest accounting tricks of so-called Enronomics, and the failure of the energy giant Enron. Enronomics used the same trick to hide losses -- even though one is a government entity and the other is a corporate entity and the bookkeeping is different. But Enron did use the same tactic in hiding its losses through offshore accounts. This is much more complex, in fact, extraordinarily complex. There are numerous ways they did it. One way was to enter into a transaction, which is known as a
[CTRL] Israel/OT/PA: Only justice can end human rights crisis, say Amnesty International delegates
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:47:24 + From: ainews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Israel/OT/PA: Only justice can end human rights crisis, say Amnesty International delegates * News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty International * 5 February 2002 MDE 15/012/2002 23/02 Amnesty International delegates who have been visiting Israel and the Occupied Territories said that only justice and a commitment to uphold human rights for all can end a crisis which is spiralling out of control. We saw both populations, Palestinians and Jews, living in fear. Every Palestinian in the Occupied Territories is affected in a cycle of repression which is bringing people to despair. Israelis are living in constant fear of suicide bombs and armed attacks which have deliberately targeted civilians, killing and wounding people in streets, shops and bars. Trampling on people's human rights cannot be justified under any circumstances, not in the name of security and not in the name of freedom, Amnesty International said. The delegates, who included a military adviser, said that the Israeli use of weapons that cause massive destruction of property, laser-guided bombs dropped by F-16 aircraft and Apache helicopter-launched Air to Ground Hellfire missiles, have made Palestinians in towns constantly watch the sky in fear. Houses and infrastructure have been shelled and demolished without regard for the rules of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which not only prohibits collective punishments but also the destruction of property except when absolutely necessary for military operations. Delegates condemned the use of tank shells containing flechettes in the Gaza Strip. Each shell may contain up to 5,000 arrows the size of nails, each one capable of killing. They are entirely inappropriate for use in one of the most densely populated areas in the world, said delegates. Areas of Palestinian homes which we had visited several times over the past year were now razed to the ground for alleged security reasons but apparently as collective punishment, said delegates. It is unacceptable that without warning or legality tanks and bulldozers demolish the homes of hundreds of families, including thousands of children, the organization said. Such demolitions are particularly devastating in a context in which up to 48% of the population are now out of work and relying on UN handouts. They have become, together with closures and checkpoints, part of a daily diet of harassment and humiliation for Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. Amnesty International has frequently condemned house demolitions and has also stated that the failure to investigate unlawful killings was allowing frightened or reckless soldiers to carry out such killings with impunity. Now many Israeli soldiers, conscripts and reservists are telling their government that they do not want to carry out such violations of human rights, stating that rules of engagement and orders from commanding officers have led to killings of Palestinians when no lives were in danger. One soldier told us that rules of engagement in the town where he was serving ordered a soldier to kill someone about to light a Molotov cocktail even when the soldier was in a heavily protected pillbox and in no danger, said delegates. More than 150 reservists have signed a statement saying that they will no longer serve in the Occupied Territories to expel, starve and humiliate an entire people. The IDF, whose mission statement emphasises the supreme value of human life, is accepting or even ordering unpardonable acts. In Artas village near Bethlehem eyewitnesses told us how on 29 January soldiers had left a wounded man, Ahmad Ilyas 'Aysh, in mud and rain for more than an hour during the night while they called for his brother to give himself up. Nobody was allowed to come near to help him. Wilful killings, inhuman treatment and unjustified demolitions of homes are grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention, said delegates. During their visit to Jenin, which had been cut off from the outside world for 27 days in December 2001 following suicide bombings which killed more than 27 civilians in Israeli towns, delegates visited victims of attacks by Israeli soldiers who had randomly sprayed schools and residential areas with shells and bullets. During the closures patients from surrounding villages were unable to get to hospital in Jenin; at least two pregnant women who were turned back lost their new-born babies. Even now, barriers and the blocking of many roads to Palestinians means that a journey of 20 kilometres can take three hours along tortuous, unpaved roads. Freedom of movement is a right which is constantly violated for all Palestinians in Israel's Occupied Territories, said delegates. Delegates
[CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning
http://www.dawn.com/2002/02/05/int2.htm Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning MUNICH, Feb 4: A senior adviser to United States Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld indicated war with Iraq was likely even if Baghdad backs down and allows inspectors back in to hunt for weapons of mass destruction, according to an interview on Monday. "I don't think there's anything (Iraqi leader) Saddam Hussein could do that would convince us there's no longer any danger coming from Iraq," said Richard Perle, head of the Defense Policy Board of the US Department of Defence and a top Rumsfeld adviser. Perle, quoted in an interview with the German edition of the Financial Times at the Munich Security Conference, said the only thing that would convince the US regarding Iraq would be a change of regime. US President George W. Bush was now on "a very clear path" heading toward war with Iraq, said Perle as quoted by the Financial Times Deutschland. The newspaper said if Perle was right even Iraq's meeting the US demand for the return of international inspectors would do nothing to prevent American military strikes. Perle said Afghanistan was a possible model for a war with Iraq. Such a scenario would include massive US air strikes on Iraq, special operations units on the ground and the use of domestic opposition groups to carry the main burden of ground war, said Perle. "The potential fighting forces would be Kurds in the north and the Shias in the south," he said. A leadership structure could be the Iraqi National Congress (INC), he added. The INC has long been regarded as weak and divided, the Financial Times Deutschland pointed out. Perle repeated the view expressed by American officials at the conference that Washington was little concerned over European opposition to a war with Iraq. "If we have to choose between defending the US without our allies and not defending ourselves with our allies we will choose defence," said Perle. "If the European message is: we accept risks posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and don't (want you) to do anything about it because it makes us nervous, then the European influence will be zero," Perle noted. He added: "Up until now the European recommendations have not been helpful." The German foreign ministry on Monday warned against a military strike against Iraq by the United States. "There are no signs and no evidence that Iraq is involved in the terrorism that we have been discussing for several months," said Deputy Foreign Minister Ludger Volmer. The fight against terrorism should not be used to legitimize old enmities and settle old accounts, said Volmer. Both Volmer and Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer are members of the Greens party which serves as junior coalition partner to Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats. Asked about Volmer's comments a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Sabine Sparwasser, said President Bush had assured at talks in Washington on Thursday that there were no plans to attack Iraq. GERMANY: The German foreign ministry on Monday warned against a military strike against Iraq by the United States. "There are no signs and no evidence that Iraq is involved in the terrorism that we have been discussing for several months," said Ludger Volmer, Assistant Secretary at the Foreign Ministry, on a morning TV programme. The fight against terrorism should not be used to legitimise old enmities and settle old accounts, said Volmer. Both Volmer and Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer are members of the Greens party.-dpa
[CTRL] All In The (Sharon) Family...
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/04/News/News.42799.html Omri Sharon grilled over alleged fund-raising violations By Etgar Lefkovits JERUSALEM (February 4) - Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's son, Omri, was questioned by police for five hours yesterday over alleged fund-raising violations during the 1999 Likud primary campaign in which Ariel Sharon was elected party chairman. The younger Sharon, who is suspected of involvement in operating straw companies used to raise and spend money for the campaign, reportedly maintained his right to remain silent during questioning at National Fraud Squad headquarters in Bat Yam. His father, who was interviewed live on Channel 2 news, refused to discuss the case, saying it would be inappropriate while a police investigation is taking place. In October, Attorney-General Elyakim Rubinstein ordered police to open a criminal investigation against Sharon and his son following a September report on pre-election financing violations by State Comptroller Eliezer Goldberg. The report said Sharon may have violated the law by setting up fictitious companies to transfer funds from abroad to his political campaign. Goldberg fined the Likud NIS 600,000 and the Labor Party NIS 1.3 million. In response to the report, Sharon said Omri alone dealt with money matters. He also pledged to return any money illegally received. As part of the police investigation, Uri Shani, director of the prime minister's bureau, who was Likud secretary-general at the time of the primary, was questioned under caution for eight-and-a-half hours last month. In January 2000, Rubinstein ordered a separate criminal investigation into former prime minister Ehud Barak's campaign funding for the 1999 general elections, after an earlier state comptroller's report accused Labor of violating the Party Funding Law. That investigation is still under way. Justice Ministry sources have said Rubinstein's decision last fall was in no small part due to the investigation into Barak. The sources said, however, the allegations against Sharon are less severe than those against Barak.
[CTRL] Broken Fingers For Info OK In Israeli Medical Ethics
http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/torture/JRSM1201.html JOURNAL OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF MEDICINE Volume 94, December 2001 Attitudes to torture DEREK Summerfield in his review of The Medical Profession und Human Rights (August 2001 JRSM, pp. 420-421), uses your respected journal as a forum for his own agenda of hate. As I understand it, Dr Summerfield was not present when Professor Dolev allegedly made the statement attributed to him. It is unclear to me on what basis Dr Summerfield allows himself the liberty to cast aspersions on the former head of the IMA [Israel Medical Association] ethics committee by attributing to him such a statement, which Professor Dolev vehemently denies having made. Dr Summerfield's calumnies, and particularly his decision to publish them in a journal such as yours, lead us to believe that he is less interested in advancing human rights and more interested in slandering and condemning Professor Dolev, the IMA ethics committee and the State of Israel. We would expect a journal of your calibre to check the facts before you allow them to be printed, and not allow your publication, a medical and not political journal, to be used as a forum for the spewing of lies and vilification. Yoram Blachar President, Israel Medical Association, PO Box 3604 Ramat-Gan 52136. Israel - Author's reply A FOUR-member delegation of the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, London (Helen Bamber, Rami Heilbronn, Dr Duncan Forrest, Dr Elizabeth Gordon) can attest that during an interview on 25 November 1999 Professor Dolev said to them that 'a couple of broken fingers' during the interrogation of Palestinian men was a price worth paying for information. Professor Dolev was then the Head of Ethics of the Israel Medical Association (IMA). This was a moment of honesty which crystallized a position that campaigners had long inferred from the IMA's inactivity on the issue of state torture and the everyday collusion of doctors in the units where this took place. Dr Forrest recorded Professor Dolev's admission last year in a paper in an Amnesty International publication[1]. The tone and substance of Dr Blachar's letter is sadly familiar to those who have attempted to engage the IMA on these issues over the years: the standard response (when one can be elicited) is that we are motivated by anti-Israeli, and by implication anti-semitic, sentiments. It is worth noting that, in the paper referred to above, Dr Forrest also cited a letter by Dr Blachar in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz of I 5 November 1999. In it Dr Blachar failed to categorize 'moderate physical pressure' as torture (which all human rights organizations have long since condemned as the official euphemism for torture in Israel) and suggested that this might be a suitable response in a 'ticking bomb situation' (his words). This, then, is the quality of ethical leadership available to Israeli doctors. The case against the IMA is the most exhaustively documented of any since that brought fruitfully to bear against the Medical Association of South Africa during the apartheid era. Derek Summerfield CASCAID, South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, London SE1 1JJ, UK REFERENCE 1: Forrest D., "Moderate Physical Pressure" in Israel. Newsl. Med Group Amnesty Int (UK) 2000; 12 (1):l -2
[CTRL] Chemtrails: Culling the Useless Eater Population
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=42contentid=206 Chemtrails: Culling the Useless Eater Population by ANONYMOUS So, you haven't yet figured out the airborne conditioning-agent release program that is being operated by the government. I'll give you some hints, but first I'll give you a little information about myself. I'm a retired government scientist with an advanced degree in one of the health-related disciplines. I do not use my real name for fear of retaliation, either against me, or against members of my family. I always try to route my e-mail communications so that they appear to come from another source, usually from one somewhere within the government. Sometimes I use the internet resources of the public library - whatever it takes to hide my true identity and confuse those who don't want the sort of information I possess to fall into the public's hands. I have a small circle of friends who are, or were, in key positions within our military and several government agencies. These are not the very top level personnel, but mid to upper mid-level people, scientists and analysts, who are in positions where they can see the day-to-day activities of what's going on, who are charged with implementing the details, but who are never quite privy to the schemes behind the work they do. Each of my contacts has been able to supply me with a portion of the puzzle, but separately, none of them understands the whole story. I'll tell you what I've pieced together so far. But I have to admit that this information frightens me because there is no place I can go with it. What am I supposed to do - write my congressman? I believe that would be like signing my own death warrant. This whole chemtrail issue is related to the plan for decreasing the world population to around 450-500 million -- and starting with the US first. Why? The people of the US are the only ones with even the remotest chance of stopping this. That is, if they knew about it. That's why the US has to be the first to go. You have to understand that the world's elite covet the US for its geographic diversity - and they would love to return this country to its condition as it existed prior to Columbus setting foot here, but without the Native Americans this time of course. You may have already heard how several national parks have been designated as world biospheres - that's the plan for all of North America,a giant nature park and playground that will be devoid of annoying human beings (that would be us). And the people actually involved in doing the spraying, as well as those who will take part in the rest of the plans, are being duped into believing they will be spared, that is, permitted to live and remain on this continent as administrators and caretakers of this vast nature preserve. I understand that about 150 to 200 thousand people are projected as necessary for maintenance purposes. But it's likely these people will not be Americans. Those in charge wouldn't want to risk the possibility of some sort of revolt, so the workers will probably be brought in from Europe and Asia. There are rumors floating about the internet that the chemtrails are part of some sort of secret program the government is doing to protect the US from future biological attacks. Nothing could be further from the truth. The plan is to sensitize, or condition, the US population to being wiped out by influenza A. Over the past few years, people have been encouraged to get flu shots to protect them against the generally non-lethal strains that circulate through the population during flu season. Each year the US government has guessed which strains were most likely to spread. They seem to always guess right - don't they? This flu season, the government protected people with a trivalent vaccine that included the A/Beijing/262/95-like (H1N1) and the A/Sydney/5/97-like (H3N2). It also contained the B/Beijing/184/93-like hemagglutinin antigens. For those not familiar with virology, the H and N refer to proteins on the outside of the virus, the hemagglutinin and neuraminidase,which are responsible for the virus attaching to, and then invading, a host cell. The public has been quite pleased with the success of the vaccines offered so far. But that will change in the future. Researchers at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (or USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick in Frederick MD have econstructed and modified the H1N1 Spanish Flu virus, making it far more deadly than it ever was back when it was responsible for the 1918-1919 flu pandemic that killed over 20 million worldwide and over 500,000 here in the US. Consider that it could have killed many more, but back then, people couldn't hop on a jet and travel from New York to L.A. in five hours. Now, our ability to travel will increase the spread and will be our downfall. The flu vaccines contain killed virus and protect the body well against challenge by that particular strain, but work
[CTRL] Fwd: [AL-AWDA-News] Sharon suspends reservists as revolt in the ranks grows
---BeginMessage--- Sharon suspends reservists as revolt in the ranks grows By Phil Reeves 06 February 2002 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=118431 Israel's armed forces have decided to suspend scores of reserve soldiers from their posts in an effort to quell the largest internal revolt in the ranks since the start of the 16-month Palestinian uprising. The reservists, who include combat officers, have signed a petition saying they will refuse to serve in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip because Israel is dominating, expelling, starving and humiliating the Palestinian population. By yesterday, the petition had 173 names. The figure has risen from 100 in less than a week, adding momentum to an acrimonious national debate. It is the first big rift in Israeli public opinion over Israel's conduct of the conflict since Ariel Sharon was elected Prime Minister in a landslide victory 11 months ago. The army has reacted with annoyance and unease, not least because it makes wide use of reservists to patrol and guard Jewish settlements in the occupied territories. The refuseniks insist that their objections are principled, and have stressed that they are willing to defend Israel within its pre-1967 borders. One of them, Lieutenant Ishai Sagi, has described how, during one two-week stint in the West Bank, he was ordered to open fire at Palestinians who picked up stones for throwing at the troops. There were no specifics about whether [the person] was a child, a woman or an elderly man, he said, And there were no specifics as to where to shoot [the person]. He told one interviewer: I don't think that what the Israeli Defence Forces do in the territories contributes in any way to defending Israel itself ... Everything that we do in there all the horrors, all the tearing down of houses and trees, all the roadblocks, everything is just for one purpose, the settlers, who I believe are illegally there. So I believe that the [orders] that I got were illegal and I won't do them again. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=118431 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Get girl info @Beinggirl.com /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/MLQSAC/zDqDAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Emergency Rafah Relief Fund: http://al-awda.org/rafah_fund.htm = Al-Awda, The Palestine Right to Return Coalition, is the largest network of grassroots activists dedicated to Palestinian human rights. To subscribe to Al-Awda-News, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To find out how to join an Al-Awda action committee in your area, please visit our website at http://al-awda.org = Unless indicated otherwise, all statements posted represent the views of their authors and not necessarily those of Al-Awda, The Palestine Right to Return Coalition Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What really happened on Sept. 11?
-Caveat Lector- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Oregon Daily Emerald Editor Jessica Blanchard Subject: Re: What really happened on Sept. 11? I cannot believe that anyone would promote conspiracy theories about the events of Sept. 11. Nakano comments: I often hear or receive comments like this. The first 3 words say it all. I cannot believe... Or, more accurately this is: I will not believe. It doesn't make any difference how much proof or evidence you may provide to such a person. They will not believe. They will not allow themselves to believe. Because their illusionary reality is threatened and they are afraid. Often they react with anger which is a sure sign they are afraid you are right. I have learned when a person tells me, I cannot believe... I take them at their word, accept it, and tell them nothing more. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pentagon 'crash?' NOT! EXPLOSIVES used, as with WTC demolition!!
-Caveat Lector- I'm not sure that I buy this idea without some better evidence, but as I said earlier, I do not recall ever seing any aircraft (whole or in part) amongst the TV pictures showing the Pentagon damage site. T. the likelihood that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: media analysis, critiques and news reports [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FAIR-L Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FAIR-L] NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTIVISM UPDATE: NPR Continues Distortion on Mideast Calm February 5, 2002 On January 10, FAIR put out an Action Alert asking people to write to National Public Radio about an apparent blind spot in its Middle East reporting. NPR had been referring to the situation in Israel and Palestine around the New Year as a time of relative calm or comparative quiet, explaining at one point that only one Israeli has been killed in those three weeks. What NPR didn't explain was that during this quiet period, an average of one Palestinian per day was being killed by Israeli occupation forces. (See http://www.fair.org/activism/npr-israel-quiet.html .) In answer to our alert, at least several hundred people wrote to NPR, calling for Middle East reporting that paid attention to the victims of violence on all sides. Yet even as these letters were pouring in, NPR continued to present the same distorted view of the conflict. All Things Considered anchor Noah Adams opened a January 14 report on the assassination of a Palestinian militia leader, and the militia's revenge murder of an Israeli civilian, by declaring that deadly violence returned to the Middle East today--as if deadly violence hadn't been happening to Palestinians on an almost daily basis all along. On the January 17 All Things Considered, anchor Melissa Block prefaced a question by asserting, Until early this week there'd been almost a month of relatively reduced violence there-- a premise that was not corrected by correspondent Linda Gradstein. And on January 18, correspondent Peter Kenyon referred on Morning Edition to the recent lull in violence. NPR ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin, to whom the activists' letters were addressed, does seem to recognize the problem. Appearing on January 17 with media critic Ali Abunimah on WJHU, a Baltimore NPR affiliate, Dvorkin agreed with the criticism and said that NPR's foreign desk had told hosts and correspondents to reflect the reality of the situation. But this intervention does not seem to have resulted in changed coverage-- in fact, two of the repetitions of the distortion noted above occurred within the next 24 hours. Even as late as January 30, Linda Gradstein was referring to the period of relative calm, as if no one had ever pointed out to NPR that this characterization ignored the deaths of dozens of Palestinians. Despite the hundreds of individual letters he has received, Dvorkin has yet to issue a formal comment on the issue. But in a brief January 25 response to a FAIR activist, Dvorkin wrote, After FAIR pointed out the phrase 'relative calm,' NPR corrected that inaccuracy in future reports. In fact, the inaccuracy was repeated, and keeps being repeated. Something seems to be amiss in the way NPR handles legitimate complaints from the public. ACTION: Please write to NPR ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin and ask him to respond substantively to the hundreds of letters he has received about NPR's Mideast coverage, including an explanation of how NPR can repeat the same distortion after it has been corrected. CONTACT: Jeffrey Dvorkin NPR Ombudsman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Feel free to respond to FAIR ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FAIR (212) 633-6700 http://www.fair.org/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] list administrators: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html === To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning
-Caveat Lector- This Richard Perle and Wolfowitz are two fascist pigs - Zionists of the worst possible type. They wan to murder more Iraqi children and I am wondering what their hold is over our ELECTED officials. Is it blackmail? Call they Hawks? They are scavengers longing to feed off more dead. OSaba . September 18, 2001 Send to a Colleague The Prince of Darkness Memo To: Henry Kissinger From: Jude Wanniski Re: Richard Perle I was surprised to see you on television last night making arguments I associate with the world's No. 1 hawk, Richard Perle, who has been the chief architect of our policy toward the Arab/Islamic world. There is no single American more responsible for inciting outrage among Muslims globally than Richard, whose maniacal prescriptions led inexorably to last week's cataclysm. It was no surprise to me to see Richard on CNN's EvansNovak, Hunt Shields program on Sunday, calling for all-out war against the Arab world with a coalition entirely composed of western Europeans. If he were just an ordinary maniac, we could live with him, Henry, but he is chairman of the Defense Policy Board, which advises the Pentagon, and which gives him total access to all military secrets. Do you have any doubt that he is now in constant communication with Ariel Sharon and Binjamin Netanyahu, the leaders of the coo-coo wing of the Likud Party in Israel? Over the last four decades, since I first met both you and Richard in the first year of the Nixon administration in 1969, I always associated you with the moderates, like the late Sen. Jacob Javits of New York, who would look for diplomatic solutions to conflict. Richard, who was then a 25-year-old boy wonder who worked for Sen. Henry (Scoop) Jackson, Washington Democrat, was a protege of Albert Wohlstetter, who played hawk to your dove in our dealings with the Soviet Union. Back then, I was allied with Wohlstetter, a Cold War hawk, although I at least had an appreciation of your views. Now I see you practically in lockstep with Perle, who we have always known as the Prince of Darkness, a master of disinformation who helped us win the Cold War, and who now wants to bring the Muslim world to its knees. You know how these things work, Henry. There are basically two approaches to solving the problem of terrorism. One is that you understand the mind of the terrorist in order to establish defenses against it. The other is that you kill all the terrorists and all the potential terrorists. Richard would certainly not flinch at that possibility, although I'm sure he would think we would only have to kill a significant fraction of the 1.25 billion Muslims before the rest got the message. Before their deaths, Wohlstetter and former president Richard Nixon had designed our policy toward Iraq, by which the U.S. would allow Iraqi civilians to die of starvation and disease until the people were so miserable they would topple Saddam Hussein. I've noted a number of times in this space that 1.5 million Iraqi civilians have died thusfar, according to the United Nations, because of a policy designed by two dead men, now carried out by Wohlstetter's proteges, with Perle at the top of that deadly totem poll. Nixon, I'm sure, could not have imagined Saddam would still be in power after all these years. You know as well as I do that it has been criminal for our government to pretend to the American people that the embargo would have been lifted on Iraq if Saddam complied with the 1991 UN resolutions. Insofar as you have known this and done nothing about it, I suppose I would have to list you on the negative side of last week's equation. Remember when Madeleine Albright, our UN Ambassador, was asked by Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes if it were worth the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children to keep the embargo on, and without hesitation, Madeleine said it surely was. Richard Perle, I'm sure, cheered her statement. So did Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's acolyte, who is now Deputy Defense Secretary. Our Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, probably flinched at the comment, as he still has some sense left, but Don still follows Perle's lead, as he has since the Ford Administration. When Wohlstetter was the big intellectual cheese at the Rand Corporation, he brought Rumsfeld in on the Rand board, where he was fully indoctrinated on how to end wars and how to start them. In 1996, when the GOP came up with the Dole/Kemp ticket, I did my best to come up with ideas on how Bob Dole could present a more diplomatic image to the American people. Alas, Dole had Perle at his side. When President Clinton bombed Iraq on Labor Day, to kick off his re-election campaign, he violated the War Powers Act. But Dole quickly praised the bombing and other Republicans, whose staffs include members of the Perle network on Capitol Hill, immediately complained that Clinton should have dropped bigger bombs. In case you did not know it, Secretary of State Colin Powell refers to Perle and his network as
[CTRL] Fw: [PNEWS] CAPITALISM: Enron behind the War in Afghanistan?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: PNEWS.ORG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: [PNEWS] CAPITALISM: Enron behind the War in Afghanistan? ## # # ### # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # # ### ## ## # || | Subscribe or Unsubscribe to PNEWS-L -- http://pnews.org/signup.shtml | | (Where TRUTH and HONESTY are More Important than Political Persuasion) | | PNEWS-L ARCHIVES -http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/pnews-l.html | | CURRENT EVENTS, NEWS ARTICLES -- http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml | || From: Robert Lederman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've added a few url's from oil industry websites to this forwarded email as further evidence of Enron's involvement in the motivation for the war in Afghanistan. Reading this material will allow you to see the Enron scandal and its ties to Bush-Cheney in a whole new light. To find thousands of other energy industry website articles on this do a GOOGLE search http://www.google.com using these keywords: Pipeline Enron Uzbekistan Cheney Halliburton -RL Enron and the oil pipeline deal http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntc85031.htm Enron/Uzbek Oil and Gas: Represented a multinational energy company in connection with its joint venture to develop an oil and gas deposit in Uzbekistan. http://www.mbpprojectfinance.com/transactions/s_oilgas.html http://www.advancenet.net/~k_a/uzbekistan/companies.htm The one serious drawback companies have faced is getting the supplies to the right market, the energy-hungry Asian Pacific economies. Afghanistan -- the only Central Asian country with very little oil -- is by far the best route to transport the oil to Asia. Enron, the biggest contributor to the Bush-Cheney campaign of 2000, conducted the feasibility study for a US$2.5 billion trans-Caspian gas pipeline which is being built under a joint venture agreement signed in February 1999 between Turkmenistan, Bechtel and General Electric Capital Services. http://www.moles.org/ProjectUnderground/drillbits/6_08/1.html UZBEKISTAN - The U.S. Overseas Private Investment Corp. (OPIC) has agreed to provide $400 million in financing for a joint venture of Uzbekneftegaz and Enron oil and Gas Co. (Houston) to develop a clutch of gas fields in Uzbekistan. It is the largest OPIC commitment in Central Asia thus far. http://www.moles.org/ProjectUnderground/drillbits/0801/96080107.html Here's an email I received this morning. You may already know about the oil pipeline deal in Afghanistan and the Bush threats to the Taliban to invade BEFORE 9/11 but these links show how Enron and the new Afghan leader we just installed are all directly connected to Bush, to the so-called war, Cheney refusing to reveal who he met with and the supression of the 9/11 investigation Bush has threatened Congress with. -- FORWARD: From: The Daily Brew: http://www.thedailybrew.com/ The Motive For years, US oil interests have been trying to build a pipeline across Afghanistan to access the oil and gas around the Caspian Sea; efforts that have continued past the 9-11 attacks. Source http://www.wluml.org/english/new-archives/wtc/at-stake/unocal.htm Enron was a key player in this game. Way back in 1996, Enron had cut a deal with the president of Uzbekistan for joint development of the nation's natural gas fields. Source Houston Chronicle Date: TUE 06/25/96 Section: Business Page: 4 Edition: 3 STAR (sorry, no link) Enron had also done the feasibility study for the pipeline. Source http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD201A.html For a time, the Taliban appeared to be a potential partner. They had even visited Sugarland, Texas to talk things over. Source http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/west_asia/newsid_37000/37021.stm The Crime Unfortunately, the talks broke down, and by late last summer, the US Government was threatening to commence war against Afghanistan (an attack which would have violated every precept of international law). Sources http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155/1550366.stm * (Inserted by Jack) BBC Audio of report on US intentions to invade Afghanistan BEFORE Sept 11th http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/155/audio/_1550366_afghan01_arney.ram * At least twice, Bush conveyed the message to the Taliban that the United States would hold the regime responsible
Re: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light
-Caveat Lector- no that is correct, but you cannot leave the British out of the equation. and Jews were banned from entering Jerusalem, and the Arab muftis were the ones who broke the border agreements -- - --- - --- --- Complete liberty of contradicting our opinion is the very condition which justifies us in assuming its truth. John Stuart Mill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:41:57 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [2ndrepoftexas] By the Dawn's Early Light -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, thew wrote: the British, who controlled the land gave it to the Jews not the UN the UN has been pretty consistently anti-israel Recently, yes. But I thought it was the UN which created both the State of Israel and the State of Palestine in 1947 and SET THE BORDERS and I though Jerusalem was designated as an INTERNATIONAL city. Maybe somebody on the FreePalestine list can clarify this. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning
-Caveat Lector- There won't be an attack on Iraq for the same reason the American tanks didn't enter Baghdad a decade ago - Saddam Hussein is too valuable where he is, since as long as he is there, the Americans have a good excuse for remaining in Saudi. - Original Message - From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning -Caveat Lector- This Richard Perle and Wolfowitz are two fascist pigs - Zionists of the worst possible type. They wan to murder more Iraqi children and I am wondering what their hold is over our ELECTED officials. Is it blackmail? Call they Hawks? They are scavengers longing to feed off more dead. OSaba . September 18, 2001 Send to a Colleague The Prince of Darkness Memo To: Henry Kissinger From: Jude Wanniski Re: Richard Perle I was surprised to see you on television last night making arguments I associate with the world's No. 1 hawk, Richard Perle, who has been the chief architect of our policy toward the Arab/Islamic world. There is no single American more responsible for inciting outrage among Muslims globally than Richard, whose maniacal prescriptions led inexorably to last week's cataclysm. It was no surprise to me to see Richard on CNN's EvansNovak, Hunt Shields program on Sunday, calling for all-out war against the Arab world with a coalition entirely composed of western Europeans. If he were just an ordinary maniac, we could live with him, Henry, but he is chairman of the Defense Policy Board, which advises the Pentagon, and which gives him total access to all military secrets. Do you have any doubt that he is now in constant communication with Ariel Sharon and Binjamin Netanyahu, the leaders of the coo-coo wing of the Likud Party in Israel? Over the last four decades, since I first met both you and Richard in the first year of the Nixon administration in 1969, I always associated you with the moderates, like the late Sen. Jacob Javits of New York, who would look for diplomatic solutions to conflict. Richard, who was then a 25-year-old boy wonder who worked for Sen. Henry (Scoop) Jackson, Washington Democrat, was a protege of Albert Wohlstetter, who played hawk to your dove in our dealings with the Soviet Union. Back then, I was allied with Wohlstetter, a Cold War hawk, although I at least had an appreciation of your views. Now I see you practically in lockstep with Perle, who we have always known as the Prince of Darkness, a master of disinformation who helped us win the Cold War, and who now wants to bring the Muslim world to its knees. You know how these things work, Henry. There are basically two approaches to solving the problem of terrorism. One is that you understand the mind of the terrorist in order to establish defenses against it. The other is that you kill all the terrorists and all the potential terrorists. Richard would certainly not flinch at that possibility, although I'm sure he would think we would only have to kill a significant fraction of the 1.25 billion Muslims before the rest got the message. Before their deaths, Wohlstetter and former president Richard Nixon had designed our policy toward Iraq, by which the U.S. would allow Iraqi civilians to die of starvation and disease until the people were so miserable they would topple Saddam Hussein. I've noted a number of times in this space that 1.5 million Iraqi civilians have died thusfar, according to the United Nations, because of a policy designed by two dead men, now carried out by Wohlstetter's proteges, with Perle at the top of that deadly totem poll. Nixon, I'm sure, could not have imagined Saddam would still be in power after all these years. You know as well as I do that it has been criminal for our government to pretend to the American people that the embargo would have been lifted on Iraq if Saddam complied with the 1991 UN resolutions. Insofar as you have known this and done nothing about it, I suppose I would have to list you on the negative side of last week's equation. Remember when Madeleine Albright, our UN Ambassador, was asked by Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes if it were worth the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children to keep the embargo on, and without hesitation, Madeleine said it surely was. Richard Perle, I'm sure, cheered her statement. So did Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's acolyte, who is now Deputy Defense Secretary. Our Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, probably flinched at the comment, as he still has some sense left, but Don still follows Perle's lead, as he has since the Ford Administration. When Wohlstetter was the big intellectual cheese at the Rand Corporation, he brought Rumsfeld in on the Rand board, where he was fully indoctrinated on how to end wars and how to start them. In 1996, when the GOP came up with the Dole/Kemp ticket, I did my best to come up with
Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning
-Caveat Lector- the question never asked by the people who keep asking why didn't we kill saddam? is: who will fill the power vacuum? look at Haiti - ( around the same time period as the gulf war) for better or worse, there was a democratically elected govt. to install waiting in the wings. We supported saddam for years, because he was the secular leader in the area. So what are the choices if he is killed.. either another crazy general, or a crazy mullah. -- Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: RV Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:22:32 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning -Caveat Lector- There won't be an attack on Iraq for the same reason the American tanks didn't enter Baghdad a decade ago - Saddam Hussein is too valuable where he is, since as long as he is there, the Americans have a good excuse for remaining in Saudi. - Original Message - From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Attack on Iraq is unavoidable: US official's warning -Caveat Lector- This Richard Perle and Wolfowitz are two fascist pigs - Zionists of the worst possible type. They wan to murder more Iraqi children and I am wondering what their hold is over our ELECTED officials. Is it blackmail? Call they Hawks? They are scavengers longing to feed off more dead. OSaba . September 18, 2001 Send to a Colleague The Prince of Darkness Memo To: Henry Kissinger From: Jude Wanniski Re: Richard Perle I was surprised to see you on television last night making arguments I associate with the world's No. 1 hawk, Richard Perle, who has been the chief architect of our policy toward the Arab/Islamic world. There is no single American more responsible for inciting outrage among Muslims globally than Richard, whose maniacal prescriptions led inexorably to last week's cataclysm. It was no surprise to me to see Richard on CNN's EvansNovak, Hunt Shields program on Sunday, calling for all-out war against the Arab world with a coalition entirely composed of western Europeans. If he were just an ordinary maniac, we could live with him, Henry, but he is chairman of the Defense Policy Board, which advises the Pentagon, and which gives him total access to all military secrets. Do you have any doubt that he is now in constant communication with Ariel Sharon and Binjamin Netanyahu, the leaders of the coo-coo wing of the Likud Party in Israel? Over the last four decades, since I first met both you and Richard in the first year of the Nixon administration in 1969, I always associated you with the moderates, like the late Sen. Jacob Javits of New York, who would look for diplomatic solutions to conflict. Richard, who was then a 25-year-old boy wonder who worked for Sen. Henry (Scoop) Jackson, Washington Democrat, was a protege of Albert Wohlstetter, who played hawk to your dove in our dealings with the Soviet Union. Back then, I was allied with Wohlstetter, a Cold War hawk, although I at least had an appreciation of your views. Now I see you practically in lockstep with Perle, who we have always known as the Prince of Darkness, a master of disinformation who helped us win the Cold War, and who now wants to bring the Muslim world to its knees. You know how these things work, Henry. There are basically two approaches to solving the problem of terrorism. One is that you understand the mind of the terrorist in order to establish defenses against it. The other is that you kill all the terrorists and all the potential terrorists. Richard would certainly not flinch at that possibility, although I'm sure he would think we would only have to kill a significant fraction of the 1.25 billion Muslims before the rest got the message. Before their deaths, Wohlstetter and former president Richard Nixon had designed our policy toward Iraq, by which the U.S. would allow Iraqi civilians to die of starvation and disease until the people were so miserable they would topple Saddam Hussein. I've noted a number of times in this space that 1.5 million Iraqi civilians have died thusfar, according to the United Nations, because of a policy designed by two dead men, now carried out by Wohlstetter's proteges, with Perle at the top of that deadly totem poll. Nixon, I'm sure, could not have imagined Saddam would still be in power after all these years. You know as well as I do that it has been criminal for our government to pretend to the American people that the embargo would have been lifted on Iraq if Saddam complied with the 1991 UN resolutions. Insofar as you have
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- BFSir, have you not heard of the Azidi? (I believe I spelled their name correctly) They are Satan worshippers in the Muslim world. They are acknowledged as such by Muslims, though do not seem to be as much opposed as their fellow monotheists in Israel. They are acknowledged as Satan worshippers, and are not understood as such in a Christian context. Thus my argument that we can discuss these things without recourse to that is a Christian idea. So what if it is a predominantly Christian idea? Does that make it factually incorrect? As far as what Jews do or do not talk about, I find that a rather specious way to shut down debate. We do not talk about this has been used to silence criticism of sexual abuse, slavery, torture, racism, and other evils. I am talking about it and that makes for one person at least. So it is not discussed in some circles? That is a social fact. Call it a minchag, believing that it is simply giving evil more power. That is an argument made, one that cannot be dismissed lightly, but it is not universally agreed to. Rabbis have disagreed on many things. Judaism does not speak with one voice on every issue. Bates thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- there was a Persian demon named shaitan. there was an angelic presence by that name in the story of job, but in neither case was Satan THE great adversary of god, the number one host of evil, an all powerful anti-god. to equate them because they are etymologically related is to paint with a brush too broad to give meaning. Jews do not talk about Satanists. it makes no sense in the Jewish mythological world view. the Persians likewise have no shaitan worship that is analogous to what Christians mean when they say Satan worship Satanists, in this context, is a Christian concept. -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Man on the Run [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:20:39 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler's Homosexuality--bunch of BS he gassed homos
-Caveat Lector- Hitler gassed homosexuals. Homosexuals under Hilter's Germany (the all purpose focus fall guy scpaegoat never mentioning the ruthless scum Dr.Mengle who most people dont know about) did not represent a politcial constiuency that politicians would seek to appease. In the US there is also the man boy love pedophile association. I am opposed to pedophila in all forms. A transexual or perosn with two gential cannot be hled responsible for his or her physiology. I am a heterosexual man and my physiology gives rise to tendecies of a primitve instinct who wants to mate make baies and protect my mate. I do not see how a sexual preference can become a lifestyle or a politcal party as how can ones sexual endeavors dictate a culture perphas to much emphasis on sex and not enough on intergity Chivalry honor and patriotism. Did the Nazis stop communism from spreading across Europe? Why werent theJews allowed in the U.S. or Britian when they faced persecution.? Why did Hitler collect Art? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PJB on the Axis of Evil
-Caveat Lector- Axis of Evil ... when I play this backward on my truntable it comes out Live fo' Sixa; could this Sixa be Texas oilman talk for a six-pack? AER From WND }}}Begin This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26329 Tuesday, February 5, 2002 The War Party and the 'Axis Of Evil' By Patrick J. Buchanan © 2002 Creators Syndicate, Inc. With the exception of the War Party pundits who are orgasmic over Mr. Bush's threat to launch preventive wars against the axis of evil Iran, Iraq and North Korea volunteers for the Great Crusade seem notably absent. Nowhere not even among the nations supposedly threatened has there been a rallying to the colors. The tepid, even negative, reaction to his war talk should tell Bush something: If America launches wars against Iraq, Iran and North Korea, she risks doing so alone, without allies. The president's phrase, axis of evil, of course, recalls both Ronald Reagan's depiction of the Soviet Empire of Leonid Brezhnev as an evil empire and the Axis powers of World War II: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and im perial Japan. Was Bush wrong in depicting the Iraqi, Iranian and North Korean regimes as evil? Not at all. That each is evil in how it treats its people is undeniable. But so, too, is a Beijing evil that murders dissent and forces abortions on married women for the crime of having a second child. But if it would be unwise for Bush to call China an evil empire whose leaders are the heirs of the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century, is it wise to so depict these three nations? Is North Korea really Tojo's Japan? By 1941, Japan had occupied Korea and Taiwan for decades, seized Manchuria, invaded China, taken Indochina and was hovering over Singapore and the U.S. Philippines. North Korea is a her mit kingdom wedged between China and Russia, and fronting a South Korea with twice its population and 30 times its economic power, backed up by the United States. Can anyone visualize North Korea rampaging across East Asi a and the western Pacific? Iraq and Iran, far from being united in an axis, lately fought a war in which a million men perished. Their detestation is mutual. Thus, rather than lending clarity to the dangerous world in which we live, Bush's rhetoric leads only to confusion. Moreover, in 1941, the whole non-Axis world from the Brits to the Bolsheviks to the occupied peoples of Europe and Asia wanted America to intervene against the Axis. But Bush's threat to go to war has received zero su pport overseas, while perplexing and dividing his coalition at home. Bush has blundered in a way that will come back to haunt him, if he does not now follow up, as the War Party demands, and launch wars on one or all of the three regimes that constitute his axis of evil. His speechwriter s and foreign-policy team have pushed him out on a limb from which he is already visibly trying to crawl back. Rather than let the U.S. military success in Afghanistan speak for him, he has let the bellicose wordsmiths of the War Party do his talking. Big mistake. Bush now needs to do some serious thinking and to ask himself some hard questions. How can we risk war against North Korea without the support of the South, or without hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops? If he intends to use air power to destroy Pyongyang's weapons, is Bush prepared for a response tha t would almost surely mean a horrendous barrage on the U.S. forces on the DMZ, and perhaps an invasion of the South? And if he is not prepared for such a war, why threaten it? How does Bush propose to topple the mullahs in Iran? Would not a U.S. attack unify Iran, millions of whose people are pro-American and which lately voted by 70 percent to toss the mullahs out? Iran and Iraq may be moving to acquire weapons of mass destruction, but why would U.S. deterrence fail with them, when it succeeded with Stalin and Mao? And if Seoul will not support a war on the North and none of the threatened Gulf nations supports a war on Iraq, why is this America's fight? If the threatened countries prefer jaw-jaw to war-war, why is this our quarrel? Why not get U.S. forces out of harm's way in both regions and let these nations work it all out themselves? Why get Americans killed for nations and regimes that do not even want us fighting their fight? Perhaps Bush has concluded that if Iran, Iraq and North Korea acquire atomic weapons, they will use them in a suicidal strike on us, and that, therefore, destroying these regimes even if it means major American casualti es is necessary to our security. But if so, the president has not made this case to his country. Let him make the case for war to the country and to a Congress that alone has the power to authorize him to go to war. But let us not blunder into war simply because
[CTRL] WEF | From Davos to NYC
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0206/feemster.php }}}Begin Posted February 5th, 2002 1:00 PM The Real Reason the Forum Bigwigs Are Here: The Swiss Didnt Want the Hassle Global Retreat by Ron Feemster In November, the World Economic Forum announced with great fanfare that it would hold its annual meeting at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel to show solidarity with New York. That may, in fact, be why it came here last week. But that doesn't begin to explain what drove the annual gathering of multi- millionaire CEOs and politicians out of Switzerland in the first place. The Forum fled because it failed to manage the political and financial problems triggered by demonstrations the past two years. Rampaging anarchists scored a major victory in Davos in 2001. They disrupted the Forum's placid marriage to the sleepy ski resort, which had hosted the annual meeting for 31 years. Davos, first famous as the setting for Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain, is not like Seattle or Genoa, cities that might lose a battle to protesters but never have to see them again. Davos is home to the World Economic Forum. If the Forum can't keep the peace, it has to go elsewhere. It's just too small a town for big demonstrations, says Hans Klaus, spokesman for the Swiss Justice and Police Ministry. We haven't found a good way to let all of those people in there at once. Demonstrators show up, like it or not. Crowds took to the streets here and in Zurich last weekend to protest the Forum's role in globalization. In Zurich, police arrested 54 protesters Friday night, and disturbances cause d $180,000 in property damage, according to published reports. Dealing with demonstrators is expensive. Security costs for a meeting in Davos have exploded from $175,000 in 1998 to an estimated $6 million to $9 million this year, according to Klaus. Convincing the provincial governme nt of Graubünden to swallow its 62 percent share of the tab was tough. But parceling out the security tasks proved to be even more difficult. Well aware that a large, violent demonstration in Davos could spell the end of the Forum, Swiss authorities turned back protesters before they reached the meeting in 2001. This strategy moved the security problems to neighboring cities and sowed the seeds of Davos's political undoing. Protesters were not allowed into Davos last year because, in 2000, they had attacked a McDonald's and smashed shop windows along the main street of town. In 2001, the authorities created Fortress Davos, and blocked road s and searched trains on Saturday, the traditional demonstration day. Forced to turn back, about 1000 protesters regrouped in Zurich, where they burned automobiles and battled police water cannons. Ironically, Zurich's ri ot police were 90 miles away in Davos and had to be helicoptered back. Zurich residents and businesses blamed their police for dedicating local resources to the rich visitors in the mountains, and then failing to keep ord er at home. Davos's security woes had become a national problem. A national police problem in Switzerland becomes a nightmare overnight. Each of the country's 26 cantons (provinces) has an independent police force, as do most cities and towns. Most of these forces are tiny by American standards. The city of Zurich (pop. 300,000) has 2000 uniformed officers. The canton of Zurich (pop. 1.2 million) employs another 2000 officers. These are the largest forces in a country of 7.2 million people. The police contingent that boarded helicopters to quell the Zurich riot numbered fewer than 50 officers. (This year, the NYPD dedicated 4000 officers to protect the Forum, freezing a three-block zone around the Waldorf-Astoria.) To police the Forum, each of the 26 cantons must send a few officers to the meeting, as almost all have done in the past. But after the unrest in Zurich, no canton wanted to be caught short if anti-Forum demonstrations sp read across the nation. Zurich refused to send officers with experience in quelling demonstrations. At most, Zurich police would stand by, waiting to be choppered in if it were clear that Zurich remained peaceful. Similar ly bitter negotiations with other cantons began in June, and they were still going on in October, when the Forum was forced to commit to Davos or find a new home. Money was not the biggest problem, says Pascal Couchepin, the Swiss minister of economic affairs. Finding money in Switzerland is easier than finding police officers. In the meantime, terrorists attacked the World Trade Center, which altered the Forum's agenda as certainly as it changed the global political climate. Klaus Schwab, the founder and head of the Forum, was in New York on Se ptember 11, meeting with Rabbi Arthur Schneier of the Park East Synagogue when the planes struck. After Schwab returned to Geneva, the off-season headquarters of the Forum, he and his staff tore up plans for a meeting on the impending global recession and
[CTRL] Rushdie on Americans' Real Problems
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/comment/story/0,11447,645579,00. html }}}Begin Anti-Americanism has taken the world by storm The US has an ideological enemy harder to defeat than militant Islam Salman Rushdie Wednesday February 6, 2002 The Guardian They told us it would be a long, ugly struggle, and so it is. America's war against terror has entered its second phase, a phase characterised by the storm over the condition, status and human rights of the prisoners held at Camp X-Ray, and by the frustrating failure of the US to find Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. Additionally, if America now attacks other countries suspected of harbouring terrorists, it will almost certainly do so alone, without the backing of the coalition that supported the action in Afghanistan. The reason is that America finds itself facing an ideological enemy that may turn out to be harder to defeat than militant Islam: that is to say, anti-Americanism, which is presently taking the world by storm. The good news is that these post-Taliban days are bad times for Islamist fanatics. Dead or alive, Bin Laden and Omar look like yesterday's men, unholy warriors who forced martyrdom on others while running for the hills th emselves. Also, if the persistent rumours are to be believed, the fall of the terrorist axis in Afghanistan may well have prevented an Islamist coup against President Musharraf in Pakistan, led by the more Taliban- like e lements in the armed forces and intelligence services - people like the terrifying General Hamid Gul. And Musharraf, no angel himself, has been pushed into arresting the leaders of the Kashmiri terrorist groups he used to encourage. (It's just two and a quarter years since he unleashed the same groups against India and en gineered the last Kashmir crisis.) Around the world, the lessons of the American action in Afghanistan are being learned. Jihad is no longer quite as cool an idea as it was last autumn. States under suspicion of giving succour to terrorism have suddenly be en trying to behave with propriety, even going so far as to round up a few bad guys. Iran has accepted the legitimacy of the new Afghan government. Even Britain, a state which has been more tolerant of Islamist fanaticism than most, is beginning to see the difference between resisting Islamophobia and providing a safe haven for some of the worst people in the world. America did, in Afghanistan, what had to be done and did it well. The bad news, however, is that none of these successes has won friends for the United States outside Afghanistan. In fact, the effectiveness of the America n campaign may paradoxically have made the world hate America more than it did before. Western critics of America's Afghan campaign are enraged because they have been shown to be wrong at every step: no, US forces weren't humiliated the way the Russians had been; and yes, the air strikes did work; and no, t he Northern Alliance didn't massacre people in Kabul; and yes, the Taliban did crumble away like the hated tyrants they were, even in their southern strongholds; and no, it wasn't that difficult to get the militants out o f their cave fortresses; and yes, the various factions succeeded in putting together a new government that is surprising people by functioning pretty well. Meanwhile, those elements in the Arab and Muslim world who blame America for their own feelings of political impotence are feeling more impotent than ever. As always, anti-US radicalism feeds off the widespread anger over the plight of the Palestinians, and it remains true that nothing would undermine the fanatics' propaganda more comprehensively than an acceptable settlement in the Middle East. However, even if that settlement were arrived at tomorrow, anti-Americanism would probably not abate. It has become too useful a smokescreen for Muslim nations' many defects - their corruption, their incompetence, their o ppression of their own citizens, their economic, scientific and cultural stagnation. America-hating has become a badge of identity, making possible a chest-beating, flag-burning rhetoric of word and deed that makes men fe el good. It contains a strong streak of hypocrisy, hating most what it desires most, and elements of self-loathing (we hate America because it has made of itself what we cannot make of ourselves). What America is accused of - closed-mindedness, stereotyping, ignorance - is also what its accusers would see if they looked into a mirror. These days there seem to be as many of these accusers outside the Muslim world as inside it. Anybody who has visited Britain and Europe, or followed the public conversation there during the past five months, will have bee n struck, even shocked, by the depth of anti-American feeling among large segments of the population, as well as the news media. Western anti-Americanism is an altogether more petulant phenomenon than its Islamic counterpart,
Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BFI refer the reader to the Book of Job. Bates Nurev Ind wrote: -Caveat Lector- Man on the Run wrote: -Caveat Lector- BFWith due respect, Christians did not invent Satan. Pre-Christian Israelite texts, both Mesoretic and those not included in the Hebrew Bible, have mentioned the concept of the Satan. Islam has also invoked the concept. This concept also exists in other religions than those of the Abrahamic faith. You are free to disagree with me, but please be accurate. Bates Satan is Christian. It is not Jewish at all though there may be discussions of such a concept. In those days before science and rationalism, almost everyone's world view was superstitious nonsense. Satan is the other major component of Christian Dualism which is based in GREEK, not Judaic culture. Jesus is the all good god of goodness, and Satan is the all bad god of evil. Y'know... good cop, bad cop. Thew is right to say that in order to take Satanism seriously, you must come from a Christian superstitious mindset. Islam incorporated many ideas from both Judaism and Christianity. That's why that have a Shaytan. Dualism is the simplest form of complexity. Philosophy light ( as in not heavy ). Read Dualism for Dummies by Abbot and Costello. It's only two pages. Joshua2 thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- just the concept satanic is a Christian concept. To think someone might be a Satanist, you must first accept the belief system that Satan exists in. Satanism is a Christian sect ,perhaps a very fringe one, but a Christian sect none the less. If I don't believe in Satan, calling me a Satanist doesn't have much meaning. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:22 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Please, please begin a campaign The inverted pentagram is an agreed upon Satanic symbol used by Satanists as such. satanists... hmm... anyone that doesn't belief that your christ chap is the son of god? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL
