[CTRL] worst-case scenarios

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U.S. ponders worst-case scenarios

David E. Sanger and Thom Shanker/NYT The New York

Times
Tuesday, February 18, 2003



WASHINGTON Senior Bush administration officials are for the first time
openly discussing a subject they have sidestepped during the massive
buildup of forces around Iraq: what could go wrong not only during an
attack, but especially in the aftermath of an invasion.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has a four-to-five-page typewritten
catalog of risks he keeps in his desk drawer. He refers to it constantly,
updates it regularly and has incorporated suggestions from senior military
commanders into it and discussed it with President George W. Bush.

The list includes a concern about Saddam Hussein using weapons of mass
destruction against his own people and blaming it on us, which would fit a
pattern, Rumsfeld said. The document also notes that he could do what
he did to the Kuwaiti oil fields and explode them, detonate, in a way that
lost that important revenue for the Iraqi people, Rumsfeld said.

That item is of particular concern to the administration teams planning
postwar reconstruction, as Iraqi oil revenues would be required for
speedily rebuilding the nation.

A senior Bush administration official confirmed that fundamental
uncertainties remain even after months of internal studies, advance
planning and the insertion of Central Intelligence Agency officers and
Special Operations Forces into some corners of Iraq.

We still do not know how U.S. forces will be received - will it be cheers,
jeers or shots? the senior official said. And the fact is, we won't know
until we get there.

In an administration that strives to sound bold and optimistic - especially
when discussing the political, economic and military power of the United
States and its ideas - such cautionary notes being sounded from the White
House, the Pentagon and the intelligence community may well be intended
for political inoculation. No battle plan survives first contact with the
enemy, according to one military maxim that is no less accurate for its
being a cliché. It is better to warn the American public of these dangers in
advance, officials note.

According to his aides, Bush has to prepare the country for what one
senior official calls the very real possibility that this will not look like
Afghanistan, a military victory that came with greater speed than any had
predicted, and with fewer casualties.

And if Bush decides to begin military action without explicit United Nations
approval, it is very possible that other nations will withhold support for
what promises to be the far more complex operation: stabilizing and
rebuilding Iraq, while preventing religious and political score-settling,
seeking out well-hidden weapons stores before others find them, keeping
the lid on Taliban activity in Afghanistan and pre- empting acts of terror
against American targets at home and abroad.

There is a lot to keep us awake at night, said one senior administration
official.

The level of uncertainty over the length of the battle in Iraq is high, the
senior administration official said, despite the confident assertions of some
enthusiasts for military action that the resistance will be over in a flash.

How long will this go on? the official asked. Three days, three weeks,
three months, three years?

Even some of this senior official's aides winced as they contemplated the
last time frame on the list.

As America's intelligence assets focus on Iraq and tracking terrorist activity
worldwide, senior officials worry that they may be less thorough in
tracking threats to the United States elsewhere around the globe.

Just last week on Capitol Hill, Vice Admiral Lowell Jacoby, director of the
Defense Intelligence Agency, said that his ability to detect the
proliferation of nuclear weapons or missiles around the world was being
stretched thin, leaving vast swaths of the world, including South Asia and
North Korea, with less coverage than he would like.

And the director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, hinted at one of
the deepest worries heard in the hallways of the intelligence agency, the
Pentagon and the White House: that a successful removal of Saddam
Hussein could be followed by a scramble for the tools he wielded to
remain in power, including his military arsenal.

The country cannot be carved up, Tenet said of Iraq. The country gets
carved up and people believe they have license to take parts of the
country for themselves.

That will make this a heck of a lot harder, Tenet said.

At the White House, officials acknowledge that they have been late in
focusing on the question of how to bring enough aid to the region in the
days after an attack begins, which could mean that even those celebrating
liberation could quickly turn against the liberators.

Bush's 

[CTRL] student's email

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Embattled Blair seizes on student's email
By Becky Barrow in London
February 18 2003

An Iraqi student found herself in the spotlight after Tony Blair seized on an
email she sent to friends, telling them about Saddam Hussein's atrocities,
including the disappearance of 17 members of her family.

Rania Kashi, 19, a first-year student at Cambridge University, sent the email
to about 15 friends who were thinking of going on London's protest march.

This may be hard to believe, and you may not even appreciate the extent
of such barbaric acts, but believe me you will be hard pressed to find a
single family in Iraq which has not had a son/father/brother killed,
imprisoned, tortured and/or 'disappeared' due to Saddam's regime.

One of her uncles was tortured after trying to escape.

Before sending the email, she let her father, Dhiaa, a businessman, check
the facts, and he forwarded it to some friends.

The email was quoted on Sunday in a speech by the Prime Minister at
Labour's conference in Glasgow after
a copy was given to him by a group of Iraqis in Scotland on Saturday
morning. A copy has subsequently been published on the Prime Minister's
website.

In her email Ms Kashi wrote: Whatever America's real intentions behind an
attack, the reality on the ground is that the majority of Iraqis, inside and
outside Iraq, support the invasive action, because they are the ones who
have to live with the realities of continuing as things are.

I say to them [the protesters]: do not continue to allow the Iraqi people
to be punished because you are 'unhappy' with the amount of power
America is allowed to wield in a faulty world.

Do not use the Iraqi people as a pawn in your game for moral superiority.
When you allow a monster like Saddam to rule for 30 years without so
much as protesting against his rule, you lose the right to such a claim.

But newspapers yesterday forecast that Mr Blair would become a victim of
the Iraq crisis. In the past three days Mr Blair's nightmare became more
than a remote possibility, wrote the Financial Times.

The Independent said: The price for Blair's misplaced conviction will be a
loss of authority. Mr Blair finds himself firmly attached to the losing side of
the argument.

The Guardian commented: If the conflict was messy and prolonged with
nasty outcomes, Mr Blair might even depart from office.

According to the Daily Telegraph, a victory by France and Germany would
be a disaster for Mr Blair, who would no longer enjoy the confidence of
the US or the European Union and would be weakened domestically.

The Daily Mirror, the only tabloid that opposes a war, headlined Britain
tells Blair: You're on your own and spoke of a plan by members of Mr
Blair's Labour Party to get rid him.

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[CTRL] Right now, the worst thing that could occur

2003-02-18 Thread Euphorian
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Wow!  The worst thing is safety and security so that must make the
best things how many more failures of the American government to do
the job it's paid to do ... A:E:R 



Alert elevation based on a lie
By  DOUG THOMPSON
Feb 14, 2003,  09:16
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 After a week of warning Americans to get ready for an imminent terrorist
attack, a chagrined Bush administration now admits a key source of
information for that attack was fabricated by a captured al Qaida
operative.

We've wondering just how much egg we have on our face, says one
unhappy White House source. Right now, the worst thing that could
occur for the administration's credibility is that nothing happens this
weekend. I know that sounds terrible but we've got a lot riding on this.

The administration elevated the nation's threat level to orange last week,
the second-highest rating. At the time, Capitol Hill Blue reported that
some intelligence professionals felt the elevation was not justified because
intelligence reports were contradictory.

A key part of the intelligence was information obtained from a captured al
Qaida operative who told a detailed story about his organization's
development of a dirty bomb that could be masked from detection by
airport detectors and other security precautions.

The bombs, the operative said, would be set off this weekend at specific
government and private targets.

CIA officials urged delaying elevating the threat level until the story could
be checked through other sources but the administration decided to go
ahead and alert the public.

Only after the threat was elevated did the FBI administer a lie detector
test to the operative and the test showed he was lying repeatedly about
the dirty bombs and threats.

He did not pass, said Vince Callistrano, former terrorism chief for the CIA.

Callistrano says the information from the al Qaida operative was a key
part of the puzzle the Bush administration put together to justify the
increased alert.

This piece of that puzzle turns out to be fabricated and therefore the
reason for a lot of the alarm, particularly in Washington this week, has
been dissipated after they found out that this information was not true,
he added.

Bush administration officials say they still plan to keep the alert level raised
through the weekend and claim other intelligence information confirmed
the threat was real.

But top intelligence officials at both the FBI and CIA are already pointing
fingers at each other -- each claiming the other jumped the gun, but
former FBI agent and terrorism expert Neal Zachmann says the real blame
rests with increasing paranoia over getting caught flat footed when
another attack comes.

There is little doubt that al Qaida will strike again, Zachmann says. But
the fact is, nobody really knows when or how. The administration really
stuck its neck out with this latest threat level escalation and all the visible
signs of preparation.

Portable antiaircraft misslbe launching platforms now greet visitors who
drive across bridges into Washington. Armed troops patrol Union Station
and Capitol Hill police carry automatic weapons while on patrol.

The point is we're ready now for an attack that may not come for days,
weeks, months or even years, Zachmann says. Are we going to maintain
this state of readiness for the next 10 years? Will the public accept it?

Earlier this week, a jittery public reacting to warnings from the White
House emptied grocery stories of bottled water and bought up every roll
of duct tape they could find.

By Thursday, however, retailers said the buying frenzy had eased.

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[CTRL] The War(p) Enterprise's 'Scottie' Giving All She's Got

2003-02-18 Thread Euphorian
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Ah, never having been a 'Trekkie' to any great extent, I can just see
Shrub's other 'Scottie' down in the the engine rooms of war, monkeying
with the war(p) drives, messaging back up to the bridge, I'm givin' you all
she's got Captain.  Then Beam me back, 'Scottie'  might take on added
significance (like knocking back a shot of Beam).  This might be an
interesting exercise in assigning the Admin cast to the characters of those
who choose to go where sane man has never gone before.  A:E:R 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,897101,00.html

Blair's 'moral' case for war in Iraq is shot full of holes

As public opposition mounts, the PM is forced to play his last card

Simon Tisdall
Monday February 17, 2003
The Guardian

Downing Street is at panic stations as the full implications of Hans Blix's
inspections report sink in. The two main US-British arguments in favour of
launching a war on Iraq next month - that Saddam currently possesses
deployable weapons of mass destruction and poses an immediate or near-
term threat to the region and to us - already had few takers before
Friday's UN meeting. In his peculiarly dispassionate, persuasive way, Blix
further undermined and, for many, destroyed the credibility of the Anglo-
American case for an early, pre-emptive attack.

A third core argument, favoured by George Bush and blithely reiterated by
him in Florida last week - that Saddam is in cahoots with al-Qaida and is
somehow linked or even to blame for 9/11 - is not seen as convincing even
by those who have espoused it. Downing Street now knows this argument,
too, is a definitive non-runner.

Assailed on all sides by unprecedented popular protest, at odds with
Europe, outnumbered in the security council, with the Pentagon's clock
inexorably ticking, and rightly worried that an impatient Bush may reject
the UN route, dish his British ally and press on regardless, Tony Blair has
now reached his bottom line: morality.

With his back against the wall, belatedly aware of the depth of his
difficulty, and surrounded by the empty shell casings of a defeated
polemic, Blair played his last card in Glasgow at the weekend. Action was a
moral imperative, he declared. If Saddam remains in power, he warned
emotively, there will be consequences paid in blood. The moral case for
intervention was overwhelming. Those who opposed it, he implied, were
themselves acting immorally.

In many respects, this is an outrageous statement. It reeks of
condescension. In his wisdom, it seems, the prime minister is suggesting
that millions of weekend marchers and all those in the European, Arab and
Muslim spheres who disagree have failed to think through the ethical
ramifications of their stand. But since Blair can be sure to repeat his moral
message in the two or three weeks that remain before Bush is expected to
press the button, it must be answered.

How moral is it, to take one aspect, to wreck an inspections process
unanimously agreed by the UN? Blair and Jack Straw endlessly stress the
exact terms of resolution 1441. But this document sets no time limit on
inspections. It makes no mention of the regime change that Blair now
advocates. Nor does 1441's text authorise the conquest, indefinite
occupation and forcible remaking of Iraq under US military auspices.

Exactly how moral is it, as is now the US-British plan in the next fortnight,
to gerrymander UN backing for war by buying votes with US financial
largesse? Blair's new concept of the unreasonable veto and the quaint
idea of claiming a moral mandate from a simple majority UN vote has no
base in international law. Nor, for that matter, does the concept of an
offensive war, as opposed to collective, defensive action. The US and
Britain have no moral right to try to reinterpret and thus subvert the UN
charter in this way.

The onus is surely on Blair, not his opponents, to explain the morality of
rejecting Blix's provisional conclusion that his inspections are beginning to
work. It is not moral to turn to the last resort of violence when Iraq has
conceded many of the UN's demands and when South Africa, for example,
is offering its good offices and experience in assuring nuclear disarmament.

The onus is surely also on Blair to show the Vatican and, say, Britain's
Anglican and Muslim leaders, why and on what grounds his moral authority
exceeds theirs.

Having made his bid for the high ground, the prime minister has many other
dilemmas to clarify. The Iraq crisis has entrenched the Israel-Palestine
stalemate. War will bring further delays to the peace process. But
Palestinian children are suffering malnutrition right now. For many,
international intervention to secure the occupied territories is a more
pressing priority.

Or consider the Kurds. In the event of war, their hard-won autonomy will
be under direct threat from a US- sanctioned, Turkish military incursion.
Kurds were among the biggest victims of (deeply immoral) US-British military
assistance to Saddam in 

[CTRL] Bartcop Forum - The Worst Decision Ever Made for a President

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[CTRL] Shooting It or Snorting It?

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Are They Shooting It or Snorting It?

by James Glaser

Nothing scientific here, but I do believe that George, Colin, and Donald are
all strung out on testosterone.  Dick would be too, except for his heart
thing.

I spotted it right away when Colin Powell started to speak at the United
Nations this week. He threw away his prepared speech, started rambling
off the cuff, and you could see it in his eyes. Colin wanted to kill that
French guy or somebody else, anybody, maybe some Iraqi kids would do
the trick.

George might just be the first President with a deviated septum. I don't
know for sure, but all of these guys in our Executive Branch want to go
out and kill people. Women, children, or even infants, it doesn't matter to
them. Just like it has never mattered to anyone starting a war, because
the innocent are the people that get killed in every war.

Let’s face it: nobody in the White House other than Colin Powell had the
guts to go to war when their chance came, so it would seem plausible that
these guys have taken something to give them this need for war now.
These guys don't want to defend America, on the contrary they have left
America's borders wide open and all the tough talk of getting Osama bin
Laden dead or alive is a thing of the past. In fact Osama is never even
mentioned by George any more. The War on Terrorism it has been
decided, no longer will raise George Bush's poll numbers.

Colin Powell has been in favor of killing women and children for years. In
fact in his autobiography he talks about destroying the food supply and
homes of villagers. We burned the thatched huts, starting the blaze with
Ronson and Zippo lighters Ho Chi Minh had said people were like the
sea in which his guerillas swam. We tried to solve the problem by making
the whole sea uninhabitable. In the hard logic of war, what difference
does it make if you shoot your enemy or starve him to death?

It makes a lot of difference Secretary Powell, because when you shoot
someone you have some sort of control over who is shot. When you starve
a whole population you are killing the enemy along with innocent children
and infants. It has been reported that Iraq's population is 42% children.
Equating those children with combatants is at the very heart of The
Powell Doctrine which recommends using overwhelming force on the
enemy, regardless of civilian casualties. We can see that in our last war in
Afghanistan.

Civilian deaths were not even counted, even though thousands died. We
only learned of them from international organizations that investigated. As
far as our government is concerned, civilian deaths are unfortunate.

If you spent the time and listened to this last round of speeches at the UN
after Dr. Hans Blix gave his report, you could hear it in the tone of their
voices. Only the United States, Great Britain, and Spain wanted to go to
war right now and each of their representatives' voices were hard and
angry, while everyone else spoke of hope for a peaceful solution and their
voices sounded almost serene.

I have been to war and know how combat can take over your whole mind
and body. It is an adrenaline rush like no other. I didn't think that those
way in the rear could get that rush, but George, Colin, and Donald must
think you can.

I can only hope that these men will get into some sort of treatment
program and that they can get off this testosterone habit before they kill
more innocent people.

February 18, 2003



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[CTRL] Pentagon says 1Million US Troops could die

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[CTRL] Protest coverage

2003-02-18 Thread Joshua Tinnin
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101 slogans from today's peace rally (SF, CA)
http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sfc/com/8743118.html

NOWAR - Photos  Report (Toronto)
http://citizensontheweb.com/

A Historic Day
http://www.progressive.org/webex/wx021703.html

http://www.indymedia.org/

Aerial Photos of Feb 16 Anti-war March  Rally
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/1575313.php

Anti-War Update: A roundup of opposition across the country
http://inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=63_0_2_0_C

Iraq Protests
http://www.protest.net/iraq_protests.html

Report From New York
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15196

A Day of Protest
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/2003/02/000326.html

Personal Voices: Dissent and a Mayor's Betrayal
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15195

Texans Turn Out Against War
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15197

A Global Antiwar Movement
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15182

Day of Global Action for Peace
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=20ItemID=3046

A People's Led Globalization Emerges
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41ItemID=3059


Photos
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030215/168/3a6x9.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030215/168/3a88t.html

Your pictures from Glasgow's protest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/2769607.stm

In pictures: World rallies against war
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2765673.stm

In pictures: Glasgow protests
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/2766141.stm

In pictures: UK's anti-war protests
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2766805.stm

IN PICTURES: THE MARCH AGAINST WAR
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Dear Pacifica Friends,

The Peace Rally held outside yesterday, Sunday, here in Missoula, Montana
was highlighted by an historic speech by George McGovern, and I've arranged
to have it available for broadcast.  All or parts of it might serve well for
news broadcasts on the nationwide/global momentum for peace.  The talk is
about 22 minutes long, including rounds of applause from the crowd of
several thousand peace marchers.  Several moments in the speech are quite
moving.  (The incomplete introductory remarks are from Anita Doyle of the
Jeannette Rankin Peace Center here in Missoula.)  You can download it as an
MP3 file at http://people.montana.com/~dritz/ for use on the air.

McGovern and his wife have a retirement home nearby up the Bitterroot River
valley, and he speaks from time to time at Montana events.  Our local
newspaper, The Missoulian, this morning characterized the speech as
McGovern's first major anti-war speech in 30 years.  You can look at this
morning's newspaper coverage and highlights of the speech and the rally at
http://www.missoulian.com

I'm sending this to station managers and many others around the Pacifica
network and affiliates.  Hope you find this useful.  Some of you might just
want to download it and listen.  Please let me know if you do broadcast some
of it.

Peace in the struggle for peace,
David

David L. Moore
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Department of English
University of Montana
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Human Peace Sign from Antarctica
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0119-02.htm

Anti War protest at McMurdo
http://www.70south.com/news/1045083908/index_html

Antiwar movement awakens over Iraq
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0218/p01s04-woiq.html

The Numbers Game
The March That Was
http://www.motherjones.com/news/warwatch/2003/08/we_301_01.html

Walking Along Streets of Peace
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/columnists/nyc-bres0216,0,853433.column?coll=ny-li-columnists

Police fire tear gas, rubber bullets at Springs war protest
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/america_at_war/article/0,1299,DRMN_2116_1748278,00.html

ANOTHER BIG TURNOUT
SF peace march draws an estimated 200K to protest war on Iraq.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/17/PROTEST.TMPnl=top

VANDALS MAR PEACEFUL RALLY
Splinter anarchist group wreaks havoc downtown; dozens arrested.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/17/BLACKBLOC.TMPnl=top

'WE CAN STOP THIS WAR'
Activists, stars and religious leaders preach peace at rally.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/17/SPEAKERS.TMPnl=top

PEACE COMES IN ALL COLORS
Outreach efforts bring more minorities out for Sunday's march.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/17/DIVERSE.TMPnl=top

S.F. march organizers condemn violence
They disavow breakaway protest
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/18/PROTEST.TMP

ChronBites: Protests, Diversity, Rosen, and Lazarus

[CTRL] Latest In US Torture Research Tech: Sonic Pain Stick

2003-02-18 Thread Jei
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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0307/smith.php

The Sonic Pain Stick
Torture Gets Technical
by George Smith
February 12 - 18, 2003

New methods of American technical torture continue to roll off
private-sector assembly lines in the effort to aid the war on terror. One
of the most aggressively pitched is a meter-long sonic pain stick marketed
to the Department of Defense by the American Technology Corporation of San
Diego.

In a recent full-court press to the media, the company gaily described the
sonic baton's potential to agonize terrorists on airplanes, where flying
bullets wouldn't do. Intended for use at short range, the weapon projects
sound intense enough to cause temporary loss of hearing, perhaps
nullifying its effect, or possibly shattering the hijacker's eardrums. It
would also probably agonize or rupture the hearing of everyone else in an
enclosed cabin, blocking the communication of useful commands like Get
that terrorist bastard!

Department of Defense efforts at wielding sound waves to inflict
unpleasantness have yielded refreshingly poor results. According to
National Defense News, the army set up a testing regimen to torture
animals -- referred to as surrogates -- but was unable to reliably
agonize them. As a result, DoD's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate
stopped funding some research in the area.

Other arms of the military -- like the navy -- remain interested in sonic
guns to disable foreign ship crews, or at least to make them very angry.

The soldiers, weirdos, sadists, and tinkerers enthusiastic about acoustic
technology envision strapping the sonic pain stick to an M-16. While it
would be no good in situations where people can shoot back or even throw
rocks, it certainly could have its uses in rousting frightened women and
children from closets in an occupied Iraq.

America's nonlethal-weapons scientists note that in our country, hearing
aids and surgery can mitigate damage to the outer and middle ear caused by
such a weapon. However, mangling of the inner ear is permanent. But in
poor or just bombed-flat foreign lands, access to health insurance to pay
for damage claims, hearing aids, and good surgeons may be hard to come by.
Nonlethal weaponeers are also vexed by the fact that once one's ears are
ruined, the sonic weapon loses its bite.

American Technology Corporation is not alone in the arms race for painful
sound. Scientific Applications  Research Associates, a Pentagon
contractor also located in Southern California, is pushing its Sonic
Firehose, an allegedly portable widget with the same glorious mission as
the aural agony rod.

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[CTRL] Dictatorship - Where Leaders Won't Listen

2003-02-18 Thread Jei
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http://etherzone.com/2003/henr021803.shtml

WASTED ENERGY
PROTESTS THAT WON'T MATTER
By: Ed Henry
Published in the February 18, 2003 issue of Ether Zone.

What do you call it when the leader of the free world does not listen to
the cries of the people, when the head of the greatest system of
representative government does not pay attention to the will of the
people? Do you call it democracy?

The answer to that is something most Americans do not want to hear because
it's spelled despotism, dictatorship, oligarchy, tyranny, military junta
or even banana republic.

George Bush's only excuse is that polls in the United States show a lot of
the population either undecided or willing to go along with his war.

Over the weekend, the following countries protested George Bush's war on
Iraq: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada,
Chile, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic,
East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, England, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany,
Greece, Guatemala, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Kenya, Lebanon,
Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Morocco,
Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Pakistan, Palestine, Peru, Philippines,
Poland, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Reunion, Russia, Rwanda, South Africa,
Spain, Slovenia, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey,
Ukraine, United States, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

The coalition of the willing is down to two; Great Britain and Australia
who have already committed troops to the Middle East. With 90 percent of
the people in England against the war, Tony Blair is toast in the upcoming
elections unless he gives up his role as Tonto to the Lone Ranger. And the
Australian Parliament has already given Prime Minister John Howard a vote
of no confidence.

England's Guardian Unlimited called the protests a historic peace march
whose massive turnout surpassed the organisers' wildest expectations and
Tony Blair's worst fears  because America is making our Prime Minister
go against the huge majority of the British people, and that won’t be
forgiven. Look about you. That's what this is all about; not fierce party
politics but a simple feeling that democracy, British democracy, has been
forgotten.

On the other hand, it's somewhat amazing to find so many Americans against
George's war when his sales force has been pumping the war drums 24 hours
a day for almost a year along with almost daily appearances by the prez
himself, the Donald Rumsfeld show, and the Ari Fleischer hour of droning.
If the protesting Americans haven't been convinced by now, they never will
be.

Forced by the news from around the world to finally recognize the enormity
of events, Fox and CNN were at least willing to give the protests equal
billing for a couple of days. Of course, coverage of the demonstrations
was laced with the usual batch of experts favoring the war and snide
remarks about the protesters, many depicted as left over hippies from the
Sixties and Seventies, Hollywood socialists, as well as derogatory
opinions about the worthiness of the United Nations. All under the usual
Showdown Iraq and Target Iraq banner headlines, warnings of high
alert from John Ashcroft and the Office of Homeland Security, and the
virtues of duct tape.

Since going to NATO hasn't resulted in a decision to send troops,
including American, to Turkey to protect that country, and Turkey has so
far turned us down on using their country to stage the Northern side of
the invasion even though we've offered them $26 billion in an outright
bribe, NATO is now derided as a possibly useless organization that needs
to be abandoned like the ABM Treaty.

There is no questioning of how many other international leaders we've
bribed and little to examine for clues except the fact that the U.S.
national debt is spiraling out of control. The Bush administration
borrowed a total of $421 billion in fiscal 2002 and a grand total of
almost $600 billion within 15 months. The only thing holding it down today
is again the debt ceiling with no mention of how the new Secretary of the
Treasury, John Snow, must be scurrying about making ends meet. Big news at
other times.

George's war has already cost us much of the international sympathy and
cooperation we received immediately after the terrorist attack of
September eleventh. And the search for bin Laden has worn thin, though it
was revised over the weekend as a grasping at straws tie to Saddam
Hussein.

The one thing you can count on is that President Bush is not going to back
off on attacking Iraq. We haven't sent all those troops and equipment over
there for nothing and he didn't put forth his go it alone policy months
ago without anticipating a negative reaction.

The other thing you can take to the bank is the statement Bush has made
over and over; On September eleventh our lives were changed forever. And
Dorothy Anne Seese put it best when she wrote; Two towers fell and the
federalization 

[CTRL] Bush is Prostituting America's Military

2003-02-18 Thread Nakano Nakamura
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You've seen the famous painting of George Washington
crossing the Delaware River to fight a battle in
the Revolutionary War. But...did you know he and
his army were not crossing the river to fight
British soldiers?  No...they were rowing over to
New Jersey to fight..Germans!
That's rightGermans, and specifically to fight
Hessians (that is Germans from the House of Hesse).
It was a German mercenary army that Washington
defeated on that cold night long ago.
There is nothing new about one country hiring out
its military to other countries for money.
But The United States may be the first country in
history to send it's military off to fight somebody
else's war for free!
That's right. Bush is prostituting the United States
military and not even charging for the services.
IN FACT..IT'S WORSE THAN THAT!
Not only is Bush not charging Israel for our
military's servicesthe United States is actually
paying Israel huge amounts on top of getting our
military for free!
Every year, Israel gets the biggest chunk of U.S.
foreign aid dollars.more than any other country
in the worldby far.
It's been this way for decades.
Check the current U.S. Budget.
You will find that not only does Israel get the most,
it gets its money first, before anybody else gets
theirs. There is actually a time deadline in the
budget by which time Israel must get it's free
money from Uncle Sap.
What a deal!
Bush prostitutes America's troops for free.
The American Taypayers pick up the entire cost,
plus America pays Israel Billions every year.
Think about it when you are filing your Form 1040
this year.
 Nakano

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[CTRL] http://www.scafrica.com/news1.htm

2003-02-18 Thread Steve Wilson
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South African blacks are killing whites in droves, but the mainstream media chooses to cover up this horror.

Those who seek no further than the popular media for their information will he under the impression that now that the hated apartheid system has been overthrown, South Africa must he bathed in a rosy glow of egalitarian democracy," said Deirdre Fields.

"Nothing could be further from the truth," she told the Third International Conference on Authentic History  the First Amendment, held in Washington June 14-16.

Mrs. Fields is herself an Afrikaner-a native South African descended from the Dutch settlers of that country as far back as 1652

She quoted a former anti-apartheid crusader, Dutch journalist Adrian Stuijt, in the London Daily Telegraph:

Nothing I have seen compares to the current slaughter inside the country. More than 200,000 people have already been murdered in crime-related violence ... SA's small number of remaining commercial farmers are indeed in the world's most endangered profession.

'(Some 1,800 white farmers have been murdered brutally since 1994 when the ANC/SCAP government had the reins of power placed into their grasping hands," Fields said. "The attackers do not merely intend to kill the victims but instead to inflict pain, humiliation and suffering.

Attackers will kill a family, one by one, as they return home, she said.

"Women are often raped and men sodomised, castrated and tortured before being murdered, some being set alight while still alive," she said.

"A six-month-old baby was wrapped in newspapers and set alight. A 13-year old boy watched helplessly as his parents were murdered. Then the AIDS infected murderer forced his tongue into his mouth and molested him."

The government has passed a gun law to disarm the whites while-blacks will remain armed to carry out the regime's genocide campaign, she said.

Afrikaners are dispossessed politically and economically, she said. South Africa persuaded Zimbabwe to delay its land reform"-the killing of white farmers and giving their land to blacks to make its similar "reforms" easier, she said.

The regime is rewriting the books" to destroy the white Afrikaners' history, identity and culture, she said.

And what of the traitor F.W De Klerk, the former president of South Africa who surrendered his country and his people? Fields quotes De Klerk: "Conditions in South Africa are better than they ever were before."

"Having successfully delivered his people, the white Afrikaners, into bondage and threatened extinction under the black communist ANC regime, De Klerk now jet-sets around the world with his new wife, turning up periodically to make statements such as the above," she said. "In this way he attempts to keep up the myth and continues to persuade them to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes."'

The communist-installed government is fulfilling Field's prophecy of a giant leap into socialism. South Africa is now contemplating a welfare state. A plan to provide every man, woman and child age 7 to 65 a monthly welfare check of $10 is being widely discussed:

More than half of South Africa's 42 million people live on less than $2 a day and the economy has lost one million jobs since the take-over by blacks in 1994. By the most conservative estimate, on quarter of the workforce is unemployed. Many economists say the figure is closer to 40 per cent.
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[CTRL] Can Interventionism Be 'A Good Thing'?

2003-02-18 Thread M.A. Johnson
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~~for educational purposes only~~
[Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]

Can Interventionism Be 'A Good Thing'?
by Donald Mills

I recently received the following e-mail, sent in
response to my article entitled Orthogonality
versus Opposite Direction (which appeared in the
February 14 issue of LewRockwell.com  see also
http://www.donaldmills.com):

Interesting way of looking at things. I'm not entirely
convinced that the analogy is supremely apt or
useful, but it's refreshing to the technical mind.

I don't really understand your basis for
unequivocally concluding that interventionism and
do-goodism inevitably cause more problems than
they solve. I'll be impressed should you find a way
to demonstrate that empirically! Should the United
States have refused to engage in either World War?
Should it have restricted its participation to
responding to the Japanese? If the Japanese hadn't
attacked would it have been morally acceptable for
the U.S. to allow Hitler to operate unchecked?
Morality aside, do you actually believe that if
everyone had just minded his own business after
Poland was invaded there wo uld have been fewer
problems in the long run?

Naturally, this provoked a reaction on my part,
which I share with the reader below (a
cleaned-up version that corrects a couple of
misspellings and one subject-verb disagreement,
and also removes my address of the recipient by
name):

The U.S. should certainly have refused to engage
in WWI, which, as the eminent military historian
John Keegan notes, was a tragic and unnecessary
conflict. U.S. involvement in the war led to the
after-war settlement known as the Treaty of
Versailles, which led to German resentment and
paved the way for Hitler to rise to power in the
1930's. Hardly a matter of making the world safe
for democracy! As to the Japanese question, we
provoked the Japanese to attack us at Pearl Harbor
because our government didn't like the idea of
having a threat to rising American hegemony in East
Asia. You can point to atrocities such as the rape
of Nanking by the Japanese and the Holocaust by
the Nazis to say that interventionism is needed, but I
offer the following by way of a counter-argument:

1. Principled neutrality is usually a better
alternative than interventionism. Humanitarian
efforts to aid the dispossessed in question,
including the opening of our borders, while not
sacrificing our young on the shores of Europe
and Asia, would have been a mutually
beneficial arrangement that might well have
saved many lives, American and otherwise.
Had we stayed out of Europe in the 1940's, we
could have let the Nazis and the Soviets battle
it out, and then come to a negotiated truce,
while putting forth our hand, in a benign
manner, to help the Jews, Gypsies, and others
suffering under Nazi rule. While the Swiss'
hands were not entirely clean so far as the
prosecution of WWII was concerned, their
efforts were closer to the ideal than ours.
Besides, you could make the point that the
Soviets won WWII, not us and the Brits, as the
USSR took over much of Eastern Europe
(including Poland, the country that Britain and
France declared war with Germany over in
1939, even though the USSR invaded eastern
Poland shortly thereafter  why was
Germany's invasion not OK, but the Soviets'
invasion was? And don't say that it was
because, in some sense, Stalin was any better
than Hitler  Hitler had his millions, but Stalin
had his tens of millions!) and built, as
Churchill called it, the Iron Curtain, which
led to the Cold War and the threat of nuclear
annihilation. Indeed, from that standpoint
(namely the domino effect), it can be argued
that WWI didn't end until 1990, when the
USSR fell, and given our continuing conflicts
in the Middle East (the seeds of which were
planted in the post-war plans of Wilson,
George and Clemenceau), it might be fair to
say, as others have, that WWI is still going on,
89 years after it started! The point is that
conflicts perpetuate themselves long after they
are started.

2. American and allied governments have
consistently employed a rank and pernicious
double standard with regards to the
commission of atrocities. The Holocaust was a
monstrous evil, but so was the bombing of
Dresden, the nuclear annihilation of Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, and the systematic rape of
German women by the Soviets, all done within
a 12-month span in 194445. In each case,
thousands of innocent civilians either had their
most basic human rights grossly violated, or
were murdered outright. American policy
during the Cold War, and continuing on to
today, has been an ongoing affirmation of the
Somoza standard: He's a bastard, but he's
our bastard. A socialist regime in Chile,
under the control of Allende? Why we can't
have that! We'll 

Re: [CTRL] Poodle Piddle

2003-02-18 Thread RevCOAL
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  So while everyone in Britain knows 
  exactly what is meant by describingTony Blair as President Bush's 
  poodle, Arabs are usually baffled. There isn't,in fact, a genuine 
  Arabic word for poodle. 
  There isn't, in fact, a genuine ENGLISH 
  word for poodle either; the word is a corruption of the original German 
  name for the breed, 'pudle', the same word from which we get 
  'puddle'...which hints at the original purpose for the breed, which was as 
  a German water spaniel used for hunting, rather than as 
  alapdog...
  
  
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Re: [CTRL] Can Interventionism Be 'A Good Thing'?

2003-02-18 Thread klewis
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On 18 Feb 2003 at 8:59, someone wrote:

 1. Principled neutrality is usually a better
  alternative than interventionism.

I bet that's exactly what the guy at the DC gas station was saying to
himself as he glanced at the fallen body next to him and continued
to pump his kerosene.

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Re: [CTRL] Poodle Piddle

2003-02-18 Thread Kick The NWO
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Practically the entire (traditional) English language is comprised of 
'corrupted' words from older tongues. That doesn't make them non-genuine.

However, one imagines the reason why there is no 'genuine' word for Poodle 
in Arabic may be similar to why there's no 'genuine' word for Haggis in the 
Navajo language. ;-)

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So while everyone in Britain knows exactly 
what is meant by describingTony Blair as President Bush's poodle, Arabs 
are usually baffled. There isn't,in fact, a genuine Arabic word for 
poodle. 

There isn't, in fact, a genuine ENGLISH word for 
poodle either; the word is a corruption of the original German name for the 
breed, 'pudle', the same word from which we get 'puddle'...which hints at the 
original purpose for the breed, which was as a German water spaniel used for 
hunting, rather than as alapdog...
June

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In his latest commentary, silver analyst Ted Butler
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http://www.goldensextant.com/LLCPostings2.html#anchor11425

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[CTRL] Mass Mind Control: Calculated Victim Mentality

2003-02-18 Thread RoadsEnd
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Mass Mind Control: Calculated Victim Mentality

By Mary Louise

There is an organized group of extremely wealthy and secretive individuals who want world government, a centralized financial dictatorship, a micro-chipped society based on constant surveillance of all kinds and a frightened, docile, subservient people who give their power away to the 'authorities' to save them, from what they have been manipulated to fear.  It is imperative each person recognize this scam for what it is and depart from the prepared script, refusing to consent to the imposed reality of these self-designated rulers of our planet.


 The Overlords of the Elite have worked very hard to convince the masses that a centralized global system is the only solution to many devised problems (problem-reaction-solution) carried out by obsequious puppets, who serve their masters well. "The Circle" or network of interconnected bloodlines and intergenerational satanism view ordinary people with contempt and terms such as "useless eaters" who use up resources or "cannon fodder" expendables, make it painfully clear the majority of people are targeted as victims.  We must reject the victim mentality they feed on and let them go hungry for a change.

"Mass Control: Engineering of Human Consciousness" by Jim Keith, is an overview of the weapons and methods used to enslave and perpetuate crimes against humanity through the calculated perversion of psychology, education, genetics, eugenics, cybernetics, and other sciences.  It is a sobering account of academic, institutional, and government criminality and provides insight on the twisted ambitions and shameful behavior of the Controllers.  Divide and conquer is the name of the game of the "enlightened" ones at the top of the pyramid, who viciously use others while expecting blind obedience that never questions authority.  They are always the ones who stand to gain or benefit from the chaos they create. 

The Illuminati exists.  One may choose to remain in denial about this fact to their own peril or one may acknowledge it to better understand why there is so much trouble in the world.  Until people care enough do some serious investigating on their own and get mad enough to do something about what they find in putting the pieces of the puzzle together, the slicers and dicers will keep on doing what they do while laughing all the way to the bank.  So much has been written about them throughout history that ignorance is not an excuse to be unaware of their sinister schemes and influence on society.  Their roots go way back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism joined together into occult discipline based on foundational practices.  Sophisticated mind control techniques are also used on their own members in addition to teaching various metaphysical phenomena, including creating multiple personality disorder (DID) among their people.  What the outside world sees is not the whole story, there is a hidden side. 

It is because of the efforts and risks of many brave individuals who had nothing to gain personally, we are able to know things that otherwise would have been kept hidden from the public.  If someone is discredited, it is probably because they are telling the truth and exposing the scoundrels for what they really are.  Sometimes the truth hurts, especially if someone has done or is doing something very wrong.  Of course they don't want to be found out, but since it is too late for that the guilty parties resort to 'damage control'.  Remember, these are not nice people and they always protect their interests.  Besides, they aren't worried when they are exposed because they are counting on the majority to not believe it.  

Alberto Rivera was privy to all kinds of information from a high-level insiders position and having had the opportunity to attend a meeting where he spoke about his experiences, which is documented in an illustrated format of his life, I can say he is a humble and gentle person who has put his life on the line to inform others.  You can meet Alberto and read his true life story online by clicking on: www.albertoaic.com/comics/alberto1/index.html and www.albertoaic.com/comics/alberto3/index.html.  You may or may not be shocked at what he has to say but you may also learn something you didn't know.  Anyway, why would he make it up?

Backing up Alberto's testimony, Eric Jon Phelps details the long-suppressed dark history of the Jesuits, in his book "Vatican Assassins".  You can read a small portion of the book and view a chart that may be of help at www.hiddenmysteries.com/item300/item333.html or listen free online to past interviews Eric had with Jeff Rense and Alex Merklinger on this subject, as well as other interesting speakers and topics at this website: www.cephasministry.com/index_free_audios.html.  Having heard the interview between Eric Jon Phelps and Jeff 

[CTRL] Fwd: A Repentant Braggart

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Stradham, New Hampshire

Monday, 17 February 2003

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*** Viet-Nam-War-protester-wannabe aging hippies storm New
York...American flags desecrated in the streets of Paris...

*** Triumph of the SBGS (stocks-bounce-gold-stumbles)
market to continue?

*** The U.S. and U.K. surprisingly similar (with
significant differences, of course)...looking for 'extreme
values'...and more!

   --

Here at the Daily Reckoning, we seem to be consistently
bewildered by modern technology.

With Bill still enjoying the 'perfect weather' of
Nicaragua, I woke early this morning, fully intending to
bring you the latest scoop on the markets...only to have my
computer erase my work just as it was nearly finished. And
to top it off, it's STILL snowing up a storm here in New
Hampshire.

But at least Eric Fry is still on the job (and his computer
is cooperating)...

Eric?

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Eric Fry, reporting from the Big Apple...

- Well, well, well...Old Man Market still has a bit of life
in him after all. His dispirited, iron-deficient behavior
early in the week yielded to a revitalized, youthful élan
late in the week. The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained a
sprightly 158 points Friday, lifting the blue chip index to
7,908 - a 44-point gain on the week. The Nasdaq Composite
added 2.1%, to 1,310.

- Gold, the stock market's alter ego, responded to the
upbeat action on Wall Street by tumbling more than $18.00
to $352.20. The gold market's retreat and the stock
market's revival both seemed to be reflecting the
possibility that President Bush may not get his war in Iraq
after all. Here in New York on Saturday, Viet-Nam-War-
protester-wannabes were out in force waving their peace
flags during a 100,000-strong protest march near the U.N.
After the march had concluded, your co-editor observed many
members of this motley crew strolling around Midtown, still
toting their various flags, signs and banners. One aging
hippie carried a sign that read: Duct tape Bush's mouth!

- We doubt that the global protest marches served to alter
anyone's opinion. But we don't doubt that they reflect a
growing public opposition to an invasion of Iraq. The
geopolitical significance of this phenomenon is debatable.
But the financial market significance seems all but
certain: a rally is likely to ensue.

- The shifting tide of global public opinion against an
Iraqi invasion coincides nicely with extreme bearish
sentiment readings toward stocks. Taken together, these
twin phenomenon make the prospect of a trading rally a
better-than-ever possibility...We wouldn't be surprised if
the stocks-bounce-gold-stumbles (SBGS) market continues for
a few more days. But what do we know?

- The U.S. and the U.K. share a number of interesting
similarities these days. WE want to bomb Iraq; THEY want to
bomb Iraq. WE've got a record current account deficit;
THEY've got a record current account deficit. WE've got a
stock market (the SP 500) that has fallen 46% from its
bubble-era peak; THEY've got a stock market (the FTSE 100)
that has fallen 47%.

- Britain's unshakeable alliance with the United States
against Iraq is widely known. Less well know is the fact
that Britain's got a great big trade deficit, just like we
Yankees do. Britain last year notched up its worst trade
deficit since records began in 1697, the Guardian reports,
as falling demand from the struggling global economy
squeezed exports. The trade gap expanded to an
unprecedented £34.3bn in 2002...Britain first started
totting up its trade balance in 1697, the Guardian
explains. Eight years after the Glorious Revolution
brought William and Mary to the throne, the 

[CTRL] TERROR ALERT ORANGE: SCAREMONGERING ON THE RISE

2003-02-18 Thread RoadsEnd
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 The Bush administration propaganda machine has become totally ludicrous and unbelievable. It ratcheted the alert to orange on the basis of the lies of an informant.

Reichführer-SS (the title means "Empire Leader") Heinrich Himmler would heartily approve John Ashcroft's latest version of the Patriot Act. Here are a few jewels from the proposed legislation.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and hence clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing them with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

--Henrietta

http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/skousen/2003/0214.html
TERROR ALERT ORANGE: SCAREMONGERING ON THE RISE
by Joel Skousen
http://www.joelskousen.com



WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF
February 14, 2003
Copyright Joel M. Skousen


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There is an ominous taint of grand deception in the air as the federal government ratchets up its warning on terrorism from yellow to orange. The only increased alarm that should register in America is in people’s suspicion of their government’s motives. I suspect that this sudden upsurge in alerts represents the beginning of a huge propaganda stunt to further justify the coming war with Iraq (as if the US were fighting terrorism by launching this campaign) as well as to pave the way for more dismantling of constitutional protections. Here’s a brief summary of what’s happening.

After subjecting Americans to more than a year of weekly yellow alert terror warnings, that never bore fruit, the new Department of Homeland Security has suddenly raised the specter of scaremongering to new heights. This week America had to absorb the following in relation to the orange “high risk” alert: 1) the purported threat of a new biological/chemical/dirty bomb terrorist attack—with no credible or verifiable evidence to back up US intelligence claims; 2) a heavily promoted call for token chemical/biological preparedness on the part of ordinary citizens, leading to near panic buying of gas masks, duct tape and plastic sheeting; 3) the closing of selective bridges, freeways and tunnels in “high risk” US cities like NY and Washington; 4) heightened “security” measures, including increased anti-aircraft missile deployments in the DC area, increased hassle searches at airports, a higher military presence at key installations, and SWAT teams guarding NY synagogues; 5) another suspicious tape recorded message by Osama bin Laden conveniently interpreted as proving the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda; and 6) the sudden leaking of the proposed transcript of a more “enhanced” version of the draconian USA PATRIOT Act.

First, I strongly question the reality of any independent terrorist threat in the US. Today, Brian Ross of ABC news reported that “A key piece of the information leading to recent terror alerts was fabricated, according to two senior law enforcement officials in Washington and New York. The officials said that a claim made by a captured al Qaeda member that Washington, New York or Florida would be hit by a ‘dirty bomb’ sometime this week had proven to be a product of his imagination.” In other words, it was a fabrication. Strangely, the Department of Homeland Security is refusing to take the nation off the Orange alert status. Apparently, the Bush administration is anxious to use the now-falsified heightened alert to mold public opinion in favor of its continued political agenda.

Second, no one in government has responded convincingly to my tough question: why have there been no small or low profile terrorist attacks since 9/11? If there are hundreds of terror cells in the US, what is keeping them from carrying out the simplest forms of attack—car bombings or attacks on rural power infrastructure? There is almost no defense possible against these types of attack, no matter how many police are available. They happen all the time in Israel, Ireland, Britain and France. Why not here, if America is so hated and so vulnerable? The answer can only be that terrorists in America are controlled for political purposes—and those purposes are all geared towards enhancing government powers to curtail American civil rights through the trumped up threat of terror.

With all that said, the 

Re: [CTRL] Pentagon says 1Million US Troops could die

2003-02-18 Thread Tony Dickinson
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 Pentagon says 1Million US Troops could die

... and I guess the very people who request them to be there, won't be
there with them if/when it happens ?

But there again the Pentagon might as well say '29 US Troops could die'
would it alter public behaviour in support of a war ?

This kind of Pentagon statement is (to me) merely a truism applicable to
any group of personnel - not a prediction.

T.

Just think, war breaks out,... and nobody shows up [Franky Holly].

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[CTRL] White House Urged No Permit / The White House That Cried Wolf

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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WHITE HOUSE URGED NO PERMIT TO MARCH

FEBRUARY 18. The Post-Standard (an affiliate of Syracuse.com) is reporting that the Bush administration weighed in on the denial of a march permit to the NYC anti-war rally. 

Last week, the NY mayor's office told organizers of the rally they could not march on the streets. Then, a three-judge federal panel upheld the mayor. 

But the Bush administration had filed a brief with the judge panel, urging it to go along with the mayor's office. 

This was an obvious attempt to discourage the protests against White House moves toward war. 

It was essentially a denial of 1st Amendment rights, and as such marks yet another assault on the Bill of Rights by this administration. 

The 100,000-plus people who showed up to stand in one place in NYC were not deterred, but this does not change the thrust of the White House attempt. 

If the people can't march, why should the soldiers be allowed to? 

JON RAPPOPORT www.stratiawire.com 

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Tuesday, February 18, 2003
THE WHITE HOUSE THAT CRIED WOLF

FEBRUARY 18. Now we know the recent orange-level terror alert was a phony, because the so-called "al Qaeda operative" who warned of impending terror attacks was lying. He failel an FBI lie detector test. 

Or maybe there wasn't any "operative" to begin with. 

Of course, intell bureaucrats are saying there were other valid reasons for the orange alert. But who can believe them? No one. 

And all those stories about stores running out of duct tape in Washington? How many people live in the area? How many rolls of duct tape were actually available to them? I'm sure a check of the figures would reveal it doesn't take that many scared people to deplate the stocks of duct tape in stores. 

Which means the media stories about a panicked city were completely overblown as well. 

So we have a phony terror level alert, and then we have phony stories backing up the fear. Fear plus fear equals more fear. 

Crying wolf isn't going to cut it. They need to stage another terror attack to convince everyone that their version of 1984 is real. 

The White House can get some very good advice from those intell types in Israel who have been funding Hamas. 

Maybe a giant hologram in the sky over DC of Osama bin Laden for starters. In orange. 

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[CTRL] GI's Not Equipped For Surviving Chem / Germ Attack in Iraq

2003-02-18 Thread flw
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An ounce of prevention
DAVID HACKWORTH

Posted: February 18, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

On Sunday, Mike Wallace informed the nation on 60 Minutes that our troops
in the Gulf region don't have sufficient training or the right protection
and detection gear to survive an Iraqi chemical or biological attack. Not
exactly breaking news to the readers of this column or Defense Watch, the
tenacious Pentagon watchdog that's been warning us for months not to allow
a replay of the 1991 Gulf War mistakes - which, according to a November
2002 Veterans Affairs report, has so far killed or disabled almost 180,000
Desert Storm vets.

The 60 Minutes story was backed up by a congressional General Accounting
Office report blistering the top brass for rushing our troops into harm's
way without doing their sworn duty: making sure they were good to go. It
seems their precious deployment timetable is more important than their
grunts, who might soon be dispatched into a potentially poisonous caldron -
to destroy Iraq's chemical and biological weapons - without the right gear.

Although the Pentagon brass were too into escape-and-evade tactics to find
the time to do an on-camera interview with Mike Wallace, a senior
congressional aide, speaking off the record, said: While of course I'm not
able to disclose anything 'classified,' you should know your story's
absolutely on-target. The classified facts regarding our preparedness for
chemical or biological warfare are a lot worse than '60 Minutes' reported.

Wait a minute! If a Senate aide on the outside of the inside loop knows the
score, surely the military brass, the aide's senator boss and at least a
platoon of his peers also know that - unlike Desert Storm, where the vast
number of deaths or disabilities were accidentally self-inflicted by U.S.
bomber- and/or engineer-zapped Iraqi chemical munitions blowing downwind
and striking our troops - our sons and daughters now sharpening their
bayonets are in even more jeopardy this time around from Iraqi horror
weapons that will be intentionally zeroed in on them.

Yet - to their everlasting shame - not one of these guardians of our
republic has stood tall and publicly sounded off about this life-or-death
issue. What's happened to the spirit of John F. Kennedy's Profiles in
Courage? Have those we trust to protect and run our country all suddenly
been struck dumb, or - worse - have they chosen the easy wrong over the
hard right by burying their integrity in a bunch of classified files?

And apart from 60 Minutes, what about the press? Why hasn't our Pentagon
press corps - supposedly our country's lead hunting dog - nosed around and
reported this story? The clues were all there, and the GAO report wasn't
exactly classified. Not only did every congressional office get copies, so
did the media. There is also Defense Watch editor Ed Offley's repeated
offers to share the evidence he receives on a daily basis from the very
worried warriors who'll be hung out to do the dying in a death so horrific
and painful it haunts them day and night. Surely our media should have
sniffed that something was terribly wrong, especially after an NBC
(nuclear/biological/chemical) sergeant passed out at an air-conditioned
Pentagon briefing while demonstrating how well the protective gear works.

Military pals now deployed in Iraq doing dangerous behind-the-lines
missions have told me that almost every Iraqi oil well along the Turk
border is wired with demolitions to replicate the lung-searing, apocalyptic
horror show we saw when the Iraqi army blew the southern wells as they
pulled out of Kuwait in 1991.

Other pals, computer commandos in the various head-sheds who eyeball all
the reports coming in from the field, confirm this information and add an
even more sinister twist: Some of the wells have bio/chem weapons rigged to
go off when they explode.

Surely our brass hats, the ultimate recipients of the commo, know that the
prevailing wind in Iraq is from north to south - from the Turk border over
Baghdad to Kuwait - right in the face of our advancing troops. And surely
they know the real status of our troops' inability to shield themselves
while on the go from these deadly agents.

Let's hope that 60 Minutes sparks a chain reaction, and that the mothers
and fathers of America rise up and demand that our soldiers not be
needlessly sacrificed.

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Re: [CTRL] Can Interventionism Be 'A Good Thing'?

2003-02-18 Thread Jei
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, klewis wrote:

 On 18 Feb 2003 at 8:59, someone wrote:

  1. Principled neutrality is usually a better
   alternative than interventionism.

 I bet that's exactly what the guy at the DC gas station was saying to
 himself as he glanced at the fallen body next to him and continued
 to pump his kerosene.

Exactly! Which is why we are better off stopping
the Nuclear Lunatics before they start the war.

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Re: [CTRL] Beware statesman invoking God

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They say Bush was quite a drinker before he saw the light. For that
matter, Bush says it himself. Then he gave up the booze and became a
born again Christian.

It can be really interesting. Read the article "Jesus Plus Nothing" by Jeffrey Sharlet in the latest issue of Harper's Mag. Prudy 
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Re: [CTRL] Infallibility

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Christianity once clearly taught that a king who kills innocents and
squanders the people's money is endangering his immortal soul. By raising
this prospect, bishops and priests and theologians have restrained the war-
like behavior of princes from the 4th century on. But what if the prince
believes that he is assured of salvation because of his own choice,
regardless of what the church says? We have here an entirely different
constellation of incentives at work. Might Bush believe there is no eternal
price to pay for killing thousands, even millions, in a good cause, since
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[CTRL] Fwd: [MadCowMorningNews] Mohamed Atta and Rudi Dekkers Seen Together in Venice Weeks Before Sept. 11 Atta

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Mohamed Atta was twice seen with flight school owner Rudi Dekkers in 
Venice, FL. during the final month before he crashed American 
Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center 
Sept. 11 2001, directly contradicting Dekker's account of his 
relationship with the terrorist ringleader. 

Atta took numerous cab rides in August to and from Huffman Aviation 
as well as other locations in Venice, according to Venice Yellow Cab 
employees interviewed by the FBI three days after the attack. 

In an exclusive interview with the MadCowMorningNews one Yellow Cab 
driver stated that on two of these occasions Atta was accompanied by 
Rudi Dekkers. 

They knew each other well–-really well–-they were friends, said 
long-time Venice resident and Yellow Cab driver Bob Simpson. They 
were going to a nightclub in Sarasota, talking and very sociable with 
each other. He and Atta were friends, you could tell.

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[CTRL] $$$ vs Euro

2003-02-18 Thread Euphorian
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Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=28796
IF WAR DOES *NOT* GO OFF, THE FED WILL NO LONGER EXIST

Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 9:47 a.m.

In Response To: GREENSPAN WARNS OF DISASTER-STUDY SHOWS $13TN LOST
(economica)

I received this email from a source who usually knows what he is talking
about:

The big problem now that is making Rice so adamant about going into Iraq
is three arab nations have shifted to euros only

They want to be paid in euros for oil – NOT dollars!!!

This would mean that all of the money that American oil firms make off
these deals would vanish!

The reason Germany and France don't want a war is this Euro deal helps
them more than anyone else!

China also has a big bite of euros – they have bought a lot of them – Sort of
as economic blackmail against the US! Not just by China, but by many
nations who would like to see the US come down a peg or two.

The US could force the NEW Iraqi government to accept US dollar$$ –
THAT'S the reason for war at this time!!

If you think about it, this goes hand in hand with the major purchases of
gold – Like you have been saying for years, the euro has some gold backing
– Germany is one of the gold holders of the euro!

Iraq shifted out of dollars in 97 or 98 – the would not accept dollars for oil
after that – the US has been buying oil from European brokers – as a result
of having to pay for it in Euros, what was once a 10B deal now costs 15 –
18B in Euros!

If all OPEC companies refuse to accept dollars for oil – then NO ONE will
want dollars and there will be a run on the banks! The dollars will be
worthless – the US will have to change – maybe to script. No one wants an
Argentine dollar! And that's about what the US dollar will be at this point!

Within next six months – Greenspan will be fired by Bush, or resign. Why?
Because Greenspan helped the change to Euros – He will try to make
trouble on the way out because he doesn’t like Bush. When he goes, a
man named Knight - (I think his first name is Bob) will also go. Knight is the
head of the law firm that handles Citi Bank. He is the former money man of
DIA and a good friend of Greenspan's.

If war does NOT go off, the FED will no longer exist.

There is the possibility that Iraq has weapons that would deter US forces –
The US does not want half million men to die. If Bush did this he would
doom the Republican Party forever. He knows this and won't do it if he is
convinced of their ability to inflict damage of our troops.

We are probably too late already to do anything about these weapons.

It also looks like US can’t use nukes. World opinion will not allow this!

If the US can’t go to war, this means they won't be able to put their own
man in place who they can force Iraq to use dollars.

If Saddam steps down and allows Tariq Aziz to become President in a
democratically held election, one with UN ballot watchers... then the US
is finished because Aziz will continue the policy of Euros and not dollars.

This means that the US dollar is finished for good!! This also mean the
FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM IS FINISHED FOR GOOD!!

Don't you wonder if maybe this has been the plan all along?



Greenspan warns of disaster and the need for Gold to be part
: of the system!

: By: Julian D. W. Phillips, Gold-Authentic Money -
: Authenticmoney.com

: How can one not respect a man with the courage of his
: convictions. This somewhat phlegmatic professional, in
: respectful and diplomatic tones, delivered what can only be
: described, as a dire warning of disaster ahead. When seen
: in the light of his long held beliefs, publicly stated, he
: has to be recommending the return to Gold as a discipline
: to ‘rein in’ President George Bush.

: As we have seen to date, he has raised the hackles of the
: incumbent Administration, against himself. Although they
: stand in an invidious position, because they appointed him,
: fully aware of his views they cannot, surely, expect him to
: change them, simply as a matter of political expedient?

: With this in mind, we find his words extremely brave for a
: man, at both the pinnacle and close to the end of his
: career.

: We make no assumptions in this article, relying entirely on
: quoting Chairman Greenspan’s publicly stated words, at a
: time when the U.S. was embarking on a similar undisciplined
: fiscal path, which he then, also condemned. At the time the
: U.S. was on the brink of breaking links with Gold, losing,
: as it had, these credible resources to European nations in
: vast quantities. His essay is entitled, “Gold and Economic
: Freedom” and was written in 1967. As then, we stand on the
: brink of similarly undisciplined days [but without the
: greater objective of $ Imperialism], with the difference
: being that Gold will, in these days be called back to give
: its vital credibility to the $, as it loses its own. We
: were troubled by the possibility 

[CTRL] A Day at the Office

2003-02-18 Thread Euphorian
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Arab News
SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY
http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=22875

A Day in the Life of an Executioner
Abdul Rahman Hassan • Special to Arab News
Published on 18 February 2003

DAMMAM, 18 February 2003 — At first sight Ahmad Rezkallah is a pleasant
man with a nice,
broad smile. He expresses himself with the confidence of the professional
man he is — Saudi Arabia’s most senior executioner.

Rezkallah told Al-Majalla, a sister publication of Arab News, that he drifted
into the profession by chance.

“About 23 years ago the government asked for volunteers,” he explained.
“I was 20 years old at the time, and the youngest in my group.”

Because of his youth, people doubted he would be successful.

“But I rose to it as a challenge,” he recalls.

He says he has no trouble sleeping prior to an execution, but he is
conscientious.

“Before an execution, I wait and give the victim’s family a chance to
forgive the man who is going to be executed,” he says. “I go to the family
of the victim and ask them if they will forgive, or if blood money has been
given. Sometimes this happens at literally the last minute before an
execution.”

“My thoughts and prayers are concentrated on the fact that they will
forgive the criminal. I hope they forgive him and I feel joy when they do.”

“If I get the chance, and most of the time I do, I go and ask the family of
the victim to give the criminal another chance,” he adds. “It has worked
many times and the family has forgiven the criminal at the last minute.”

“There is clapping and cheering,” Rezkallah recalls. “The scenes of
happiness are indescribable.”

Failing that, he has to go through with the execution.

“I listen to their last requests,” he explains. “Some want to pray, some ask
to call for prayer in the execution square. Since I am the one responsible
in the execution square, I usually grant their last wish — as long as it
doesn’t delay the execution.”

And then to the execution itself.

“The sharpness of the sword and bodily strength are the most important
things,” Rezkallah says. “Also, the executioner must have the guts to do his
job — and believe in it.”

Rezkallah has executed more than 300 people, 70 of them women, and says
that in practical terms there is no difference between executing men and
women.

“People here have the impression that women are soft and weak. But at
the time of the execution, most men collapse. When they hear they were
forgiven, some are paralyzed. Some go crazy. However, women in general
have nerves of steel,” he says.

“Ten years ago, I was supposed to execute a woman,” he remembers. “She
was down on her knees and she was ready to die. At the last minute we
heard that the family had forgiven her, so police walked her back to the
prison car. Then we found out that the father of the victim had said he
would only forgive her if his wife did. So they took her out of the prison
car and back to the execution square. Then people went to the wife to
ask for her forgiveness, and she agreed and forgave the woman.

“So they walked the woman back to the prison car. She calmly went with
them and sat in the back of the car. She was talking normally. If that had
happened to a man, he would have had a heart attack.”

“Actually, most women I executed were strong and calm,” he adds. “In
tough situations, they are much stronger than men.”

Another execution he remembers vividly is that of a man who killed his
friend in a fight.

“His friend beat him, and when he got home to his mother she encouraged
him to take revenge. So the man went to his friend’s house and stabbed
him to death. He was sentenced to death for that crime.”

The mother did not mean for her son to go and kill his friend, he adds,
“but that’s what he did. And that’s why families should never encourage
violence in their children.”

Al-Majalla asked Rezkallah what consequences being an executioner has
had on his own life.

“People look at me as if I was from another planet,” he smiles.

“They try to avoid dealing with me. Sometimes when I’m with a group of
people, someone who doesn’t know me comes and sits next to me. When
they find out what my job is, they suddenly feel uncomfortable and try to
find an excuse to leave.”

“I love to meet people and I love to attend events,” he adds. “But
sometimes people don’t feel comfortable around me, so I leave.”

Instead, he spends most of his time with his family.

“I love my family very much. I spend most of my free time around them.
Thank God there is a lot of love and a great deal of understanding in my
family. I love my children, I go through their schoolwork with them and
sometimes I sit with their friends.”

Rezkallah’s two elder sons, Abdullah, 21, and Khamis, 17, welcomed Al-
Majalla into his elegant living room, which is decorated with many swords.

Rezkallah says he does not want them to follow in his footsteps. “I want
them to go to school and do something else,” he says.





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[CTRL] [LOGES-DE-CORBEAUX] Arthur Miller on War and Peace (fwd)

2003-02-18 Thread Party of Citizens
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Your guest, Arthur Miller asked rhetorically why Bush cannot wait until
the UN inspectors have done their job. Indeed, UN peace keeping forces
have been in some world situations to keep the peace for years, even
decades. If that is how long it takes, why is that a problem to Bush?
If he wages a war (really a mass murder given that his military is 1,000
times stronger than Iraq's) the cost in lives will be in the thousands and
perhaps even millions. The cost in material assets destroyed will be into
the billions of dollars. By both criteria, the UN peackeepers in Iraq cost
far, far less.

There is an irrefutable fact here which even Bush and their war
propagandists will not argue against.

AS LONG AS THE UN INSPECTORS/PEACE KEEPERS ARE IN IRAQ, PEACE AND
STABILITY IN THE REGION AND THE WORLD WILL BE MAINTAINED.

It doesn't matter if Iraq has been in material breech of this or that.
The UN inspectors will destroy the prohibited weapons. There is another
irrefutable fact. As Madelaine Albright and others have said, there are
some highly unpredictable aspects to a U-S-A invasion, as unpredictable as
peace and stability are predictable by continuing with present procedures
indefinitely. What will happen she asked, if U-S-A is in occupation of
Baghdad, the cultural centre of the Muslim world? At a time when European
cities were in darkness and superstition, Baghdad was a centre for
scholarship and enlightenment. How will the Muslim world react
psychologically to a modern occupation of Baghdad? General Scowcroft even
opined on this being the start of the Apocalpyse. The point is that we
don't know for sure what war will bring but we do know for sure what
continuing INDEFINITELY with the present peace process will bring.

The only certain benefit of this pseudo-war would be to satisfy the
blood-lust of an alcoholic psychopath who now sits in the Whitehouse
because he won the toss of a coin, in effect, in the last presidential
election.

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[CTRL] Here it is, conclusive proof against Iraq

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/16/1045330466588.html



Here it is, conclusive proof against Iraq
February 17 2003

Armando Iannucci offers a collection of Colin Powell's useful facts relating to the proposed actions in the Gulf region.

A collection of Colin Powell's useful facts relating to the proposed actions in the Gulf region.

A: Seven proofs of links between Saddam and al-Qaeda.

1. On an audiotape, Osama bin Laden calls Iraq a "stinking cesspit of socialist debauchery". This criticism is much less hostile than the sort of thing he says about America, thus proving al-Qaeda has warm feelings towards Saddam Hussein.

2. Our surveillance has picked up chatter from al-Qaeda operatives talking about organising a "rendezvous". "Rendezvous" is a French word, and France has constantly obstructed American attempts to impose regime change in Iraq. So again, we see a clear connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq.

3. Our spy planes have photographed Saddam's deputy prime minister being driven in a motorcade of Mercedes cars. Mercedes is a German car, and Germany is in league with France to destroy America, like al-Qaeda. Therefore, etc.


4. The number plate on one of these cars was A03A0 1A, which, in the rear mirror of the car in front, spells al-Qaeda.

5. The motorcade was moving in an easterly direction through Baghdad. If you move in an easterly direction through France, you get to Germany.

6. Saddam is another Hitler. Germany had a Hitler. Again, a direct link with al-Qaeda.

7. Al-Qaeda operatives have recently been arrested in London. The Prime Minister of London, Tony Blair, then visited France for a meeting with Jacques Chirac. Chirac then visited Bonn to celebrate 40 years of his alliance with Gerhard Schroeder of Germany. Schroeder had a meeting with Putin of Russia, who then received Hans Blix, who went to Baghdad. Again, proof of a direct link.

B: Five fascinating facts about Iraq.

1. Iraq is slightly more than twice the size of Idaho, occupying an area the equivalent of 500,000 American aircraft carriers.

2. Iraq has 57 kilometres of coastline. That's the equivalent of 300,000 Apache attack helicopters stretching 57 kilometres.

3. Iraq was once part of the Ottoman Empire, a land mass which, if turned into flour, would be enough to feed bread to the children of Iraq for 100 years. But Saddam refuses to do this and instead spends his money on presidential palaces, which, if converted to milk, would be enough to fill all the oil wells of the Middle East for a fortnight. That's why we have to stop him getting to the wells before he does this.

4. Iraq has 35,000 square kilometres of irrigated land. That's the equivalent of 300 million bottles of anthrax end to end. So where are they?

5. Iraqis consume 27.3 billion kWh of electricity every year, enough to power one Star-Wars style anti-missile system. So where is it, and who's it pointing at?

C: The United Nations constitution explained once and for all.

1. The UN has a 15-member Security Council, of which France, Britain, China, Russia and America are permanent members, with veto rights.

2. The UN Charter allows for the permanent members to use their veto to overrule any majority decision of the council with which they disagree.

3. This is not applicable in cases where France, China or Russia use their veto in unreasonable cases, "unreasonable" being defined as a veto against any recent council majority decisions supported by Britain or America.

4. In these cases, the charter will probably allow America or Britain to veto that veto, thus upholding the earlier unvetoed will of the council, unless the council arrives at a majority decision contrary to the wishes of America or Britain, in which case all the permanent members of the council ought to be obliged to veto it, or to veto any attempt to veto the veto.



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[CTRL] December 7, 1941: A Setup from the Beginning

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December 7, 1941: A Setup from the Beginning
By Robert B. Stinnett*


As Americans honor those 2403 men, women, and children killed—and 1178 wounded—in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii on December 7, 1941, recently released government documents concerning that “surprise” raid compel us to revisit some troubling questions.

At issue is American foreknowledge of Japanese military plans to attack Hawaii by a submarine and carrier force 59 years ago. There are two questions at the top of the foreknowledge list: (1) whether President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his top military chieftains provoked Japan into an “overt act of war” directed at Hawaii, and (2) whether Japan’s military plans were obtained in advance by the United States but concealed from the Hawaiian military commanders, Admiral Husband E. Kimmel and Lieutenant General Walter Short so they would not interfere with the overt act.

The latter question was answered in the affirmative on October 30, 2000, when President Bill Clinton signed into law, with the support of a bipartisan Congress, the National Defense Authorization Act. Amidst its omnibus provisions, the Act reverses the findings of nine previous Pearl Harbor investigations and finds that both Kimmel and Short were denied crucial military intelligence that tracked the Japanese forces toward Hawaii and obtained by the Roosevelt Administration in the weeks before the attack.

Congress was specific in its finding against the 1941 White House: Kimmel and Short were cut off from the intelligence pipeline that located Japanese forces advancing on Hawaii. Then, after the successful Japanese raid, both commanders were relieved of their commands, blamed for failing to ward off the attack, and demoted in rank. 

President Clinton must now decide whether to grant the request by Congress to restore the commanders to their 1941 ranks. Regardless of what the Commander-in-Chief does in the remaining months of his term, these congressional findings should be widely seen as an exoneration of 59 years of blame assigned to Kimmel and Short.

But one important question remains: Does the blame for the Pearl Harbor disaster revert to President Roosevelt? 

A major motion picture based on the attack is currently under production by Walt Disney Studios and scheduled for release in May 2001. The producer, Jerry Bruckheimer, refuses to include America’s foreknowledge in the script. When Bruckheimer commented on FDR’s foreknowledge in an interview published earlier this year, he said “That’s all b___s___.”

Yet, Roosevelt believed that provoking Japan into an attack on Hawaii was the only option he had in 1941 to overcome the powerful America First non-interventionist movement led by aviation hero Charles Lindbergh. These anti-war views were shared by 80 percent of the American public from 1940 to 1941. Though Germany had conquered most of Europe, and her U-Boats were sinking American ships in the Atlantic Ocean—including warships—Americans wanted nothing to do with “Europe’s War.”

However, Germany made a strategic error. She, along with her Axis partner, Italy, signed the mutual assistance treaty with Japan, the Tripartite Pact, on September 27, 1940. Ten days later, Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum, a U.S. Naval officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), saw an opportunity to counter the U.S. isolationist movement by provoking Japan into a state of war with the U.S., triggering the mutual assistance provisions of the Tripartite Pact, and bringing America into World War II.

Memorialized in McCollum’s secret memo dated October 7, 1940, and recently obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, the ONI proposal called for eight provocations aimed at Japan. Its centerpiece was keeping the might of the U.S. Fleet based in the Territory of Hawaii as a lure for a Japanese attack.

President Roosevelt acted swiftly. The very next day, October 8, 1940, the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Fleet, Admiral James O. Richardson, was summoned to the Oval Office and told of the provocative plan by the President. In a heated argument with FDR, the admiral objected to placing his sailors and ships in harm’s way. Richardson was then fired and in his place FDR selected an obscure naval officer, Rear Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, to command the fleet in Hawaii. Kimmel was promoted to a four-star admiral and took command on February 1, 1941. In a related appointment, Walter Short was promoted from Major General to a three-star Lieutenant General and given command of U.S. Army troops in Hawaii.

Throughout 1941, FDR implemented the remaining seven provocations. He then gauged Japanese reaction through intercepted and decoded communications intelligence originated by Japan’s diplomatic and military leaders. 

The island nation’s militarists used the provocations to seize control of Japan and organized 

[CTRL] Israel's Proxy War?

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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Israel's Proxy War? 
by M. Shahid Alam

It has been apparent to all but the purblind – a defect in understanding assiduously cultivated by America’s mass media – that the war United States is ready to wage against Iraq has almost nothing to do with its security.

In an age when the people believe that their voices must be heard, the United States must sell its wars the way corporations sell their products. In the past, the people were asked to lay down their lives for visions of glory; now, governments appeal to their self-interest. The first Gulf War had to be fought to protect American jobs. If Saddam Hussain stayed in Kuwait, he would raise the price of oil, and Americans would lose their jobs. 

The argument this time is different. It had to be weightier than any fear of losing jobs. This new war seeks regime-change; it involves greater risks. American forces must invade Iraq, defeat the Iraqi army, occupy Baghdad, and stay around, even indefinitely. Americans understand that "regime-change" is serious business. They would not back this war unless Iraq threatened American lives. That explains why the war against Iraq had to supersede the war against terrorism, and why Saddam replaced Osama as the new icon of America’s loathing.

This substitution was quite easily executed. Most Americans take the President at his word when he talks about foreign enemies; this trust comes more easily when a Republican occupies the White House. George Bush told Americans that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction, and he had to be stopped before he could transfer them to Al-Qaida. (Why hadn’t he done this already?) For many Americans, it was an open and shut case. Saddam had to be removed.

The flaws in this argument did not matter. If Saddam hadn’t used WMDs during the first Gulf War – when his army was being pummeled – why would he use them now? The CIA warned that a war, or the threat of it, would increase the risk of Iraq using WMDs. Others, like Scott Ritter, a former chief weapons inspector for the UN, pointed out that Iraq did not have any WMDs that mattered. More than 90 percent had been destroyed by inspectors; if any escaped, they would be past their shelf life. At least initially, few Americans gave any credence to these doubts, though that has been slowly changing.

Why then is United States straining to go to war against Iraq?

The most popular theory on the left is that this war is about oil. According to one version of this theory, the White House, a captive of oil interests, wants to corner Iraq’s oil for American oil corporations. I do not find this credible. The power brokers in United States would not allow a single industry lobby, even a powerful one, to drag the country into a war which could hurt all of them, and perhaps badly, if the war plans went awry and produced a spike in oil prices. At the least, it is doubtful if oil interests, on their own, can account for the unobstructed rush to a mad war. 

There is another oil theory. It argues that the American economy needs cheaper oil; this will save tens of billion dollars. Once Saddam has been removed, and Iraq’s oil supply restored to levels that existed before the first Gulf War, the oil prices will come down substantially. It is hard to reconcile this theory with a US-imposed sanctions regime that has drastically curtailed Iraq’s oil output for the past twelve years. If there were concerns that Saddam might use the oil revenues for a military build-up, that could be addressed by an inspections regime and selective economic sanctions.

There is also a third oil theory, one offered recently.[1] It maintains that this war preempts the Euro threat to the hegemony of the dollar. By pegging oil to the dollar, OPEC has been a key player in the arrangements that have maintained the dollar as the currency of international reserve. In October 2000, Saddam Hussein offered the first challenge to this system by switching Iraq’s dollar reserves to Euro. If OPEC follows Iraq’s lead it could spell trouble for the dollar. This can only be stopped by dismantling the OPEC, and this demands war against Iraq.

An OPEC challenge to the dollar sounds seems naïve at best. This is hardly the kind of revolutionary action we can expect from an OPEC packed with client states like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, and UAE; the oil price hike of 1974 could only occur in the backdrop of the Cold War. A precipitate dethronement of the dollar could produce consequences for United States and the world economy which would make the East Asian financial crisis of 1997 look like a storm in a teacup. Not even the EU would push for such results. On the other hand, there is a small chance that the war itself might validate this theory – if it convinced OPEC that the war aims to dismantle the oil cartel.

If it isn’t oil, then, is this civilizational war, a war of the 

[CTRL] Thomas Jefferson: HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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THOMAS JEFFERSON:
HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!

By: Albert V. Burns

"It has long been my opinion. ..that the germ of dissolution of our federal government is in the constitution of the federal judiciary; an irresponsible body-- for impeachment is scarcely a scarecrow-working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one.

"To this I am opposed; because, when all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated."      ---Thomas Jefferson, 1821



 




It is possible that the cause of this famous statement by Thomas Jefferson was a Supreme Court case, McCullough v. Maryland, which had been decided just two years earlier. In 1816, the Congress began its attack on the financial well-being of this nation when it established the second Bank of the United States. The following year, a branch of that bank was established in Baltimore. In 1818, the state of Maryland saw an opportunity and imposed a tax "on all banks or branches thereof, in the State of Maryland, not chartered by the legislature already." The bank refused to pay the tax and Maryland brought suit against McCullough the cashier of the Baltimore branch. The case went to the Supreme Court and Chief Justice John Marshall began the assault upon the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution. The effect of his words in that case have far outlasted the bank itself.

John Marshall was a member of the Federalist Party which was in favor of a strong national government. In his position as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court he began the process of weakening the chains of the Constitution which Jefferson has said should "bind men down from mischief."

In 1821, only 30 years after the establishment of the Court, Marshall declared: "Among the enumerated powers, we do not find that of establishing a bank or creating a corporation. But there is no phrase in the instrument which...excludes incidental or implied powers; and which requires that everything granted shall be expressly and minutely described. Even the 10th Amendment...omits the word "expressly" and declares only that the powers ‘not delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people;’" 

Note that in Marshall’s eyes, the failure to include the one word, EXPRESSLY, in the wording of the 10th Amendment defeats the whole purpose of the Amendment. Marshall then went on to explain, at length, that he felt the Constitution should NOT be rigidly adhered to since the Founders had, in his view, not enumerated "the means by which the powers it confers may be executed..." He had a great deal more to say in the process of damaging the concept of limited government. The revealing thing is that his attack was not central to the case.

Just five years later in the case of Gibbons v. Ogden, Marshall leveled another attack on the Tenth Amendment and the concept of limited government: "This instrument [the Constitution] contains an enumeration of powers expressly granted by the people to their government. It has been said that these powers ought to be construed strictly. But why ought they to be so construed? Is there one sentence in the Constitution which gives countenance to this rule? In the last of the enumerated powers, that which grants, expressly, the means for carrying all others into execution, congress is authorized ‘to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper’ for the purpose. But this limitation on the MEANS to be used, is not extended to the POWERS which are conferredWe do not, therefore, think ourselves justified in adopting it." (Emphasis added)

With this statement, Marshall casually disposed of the spirit in which the Constitution was established and ordained by the Founders. The Founders, themselves, just a few decades previously, in the Federalist Papers, had made clear that their Constitution WAS to be construed strictly as it was written. What Marshall was saying was that Congress could do anything it wanted but was limited in the way it did things. 

In Federalist Number 41, Madison explicitly pointed out that: 

"It has been urged and echoed, that the power ‘to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts, and to provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States,’ amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defence and general welfare...

"But what color can the objection have, when a specification for 

[CTRL] Bush's Foreign Policy OUT OF CONTROL

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sans021803.shtml



BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S 
FOREIGN POLICY:
IS OUT OF CONTROL

By: Joe Sansone

The Bush administration’s foreign policy is heading toward disaster. It is a policy that is reckless, aggressive, and a danger to both the American public and the world at large. If its goal was to create a safer world, then it has failed, and in fact, has created a more dangerous world. 



 




Arguably, the Bush administration has prompted North Korea to take its aggressive stance. In Bush’s 2002 “Axis Of Evil” speech, he threatened North Korea when there was no need to do so. Maybe it was to show that Bush’s foreign policy wasn’t just anti-Muslim, but it was stupid nonetheless.       

So how does North Korea respond?

They go nuclear and do it in a belligerent and warlike manner. They declare that they are ready for war and that sanctions or any such action would be considered an act of war. 

The United States response has only justified North Korea’s methods even more. It has handled the North Korea situation delicately and with kid gloves even though North Korea has gone out of its way to show its willingness to go to war with the United States.

Why?

Partly because of the nearly 40,000 United States troops separating North Korea from South Korea. The only way to protect those troops would be to use tactical nuclear weapons. North Korea’s small nuclear arsenal unleashed could set off an unthinkable chain of events.  

Compare that with the United States policy toward Iraq. Iraq has not gone nuclear and has not threatened war, yet they may soon be attacked by the United States. 

The Bush administration’s policies make the argument for a nation to go nuclear. It appears that joining the nuclear club exempts a nation from Bush’s pre-emptive military policy. An unprovoked invasion of Iraq will only aid global paranoia, which will only lead to more countries desiring to join the nuclear club. 

Does this policy make the world safer? 

The recklessness of foreign policy can be seen in an Iraq invasion. The United States will not be going to Iraq to push them out of another country like it did in the past with Kuwait. It will be going to take over its government and occupy its territory.

If Iraq is half of the threat that the administration claims, then it will certainly use chemical or biological weapons on United States troops. The United States will respond with tactical nuclear weapons for certain. 

Imagine the global contempt for the United States if such a scenario developed. The United States would have attacked a nation that did not attack it and it also would have used nuclear weapons in the process. 

Even if the war against Iraq is smooth so to speak, its occupation afterward may not be. United States troops in Iraq and throughout the region will be targets of terrorist attacks from civilians. 

In this time of undeclared war with terrorists, the United States border policies, or lack of them, must be considered part of its foreign policy, or at least defense policy. The Bush administration has negligently refused to defend the nations borders and ports of entry. It has even floated amnesty for illegal aliens a couple times and has looked the other way with regards to the back door amnesty offered by Matricula cards which are issued to illegal aliens and felons by the Mexican government and accepted by nearly forty cities and even by many banks as a form of ID. 

An attack on Iraq would likely cause sympathetic Islamic militants to target and commit terrorism in the United States like they did on September 11th 2001. If truck loads of illegal drugs can be smuggled into the United States then so can Anthrax, Small Pox, and even nuclear weapons.  

Why does the Bush administration refuse to close the borders, which is the only means of preventing terrorism, while it is about to begin an offensive campaign abroad, which will provide further motivation for terrorists? 

NATO may already be fracturing, as divisions seem to grow by the day over the best way to proceed with Iraq. France, Germany, and Russia have all called for more inspectors and have thus far blocked NATO involvement in the war.

NATO was a defensive military alliance to counter Russia’s Soviet Union. Now France and Germany, two prominent NATO members have banded with Russia, which was the whole reason that NATO existed, to try and avert the United States from starting a war. 

Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refers to Germany and France as “Old Europe”. Arrogance! Is that how we refer to friendly nations?

Is the world now perceiving the United States as it once did the Soviet Union? If two members of NATO and the military alliance’s former adversary, Russia, have banded together politically to counter the United States, then how unlikely is it that military alliances will be formed to counter the threat posed by the United States? Will the Middle 

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Hi friends,
While ever watchful of our un-elected "chief"'  his 
cronies work u.s. through the media spins..Cathy  I now are back home  
working as many hours in the day to complete our second and last book detailing 
what exactly happened to us, privately publiclysince that day 
on February 8th 1988. The following is an observation worth mentioning since the 
mediaCANNOT touch it until the fateful day of 03/03/03.

 Whenever anyone "predicts" a date in the future for something of 
earth changing importance to happen they areusually either 
privileged insiders or.. just a bit delusional, and may be setting what 
credibility they have up for a fall. This is NOT my intent here, nor have I ever 
been clinically adjudged as delusional..though here goes a prediction based on 
decades of past personal experience with our Secret Government's time table, 
which, by all indications past  present is securely  secretly founded 
on the ancient mystic's Kabbalah/Kabala numerology system. Only Nancy Reagan 
ever publicly admitted to her beliefs in this ancient so called science of 
mystic beliefs.

PREDICTION:
THE US GOVERNMENT WILL ON 
03/03/03 DECLARE WAR ON THE PEOPLES OF IRAQ AND/OR LAUNCH THE FIRST MILITARY 
STRIKE.
I could go a little further out on 
the proverbial limb andpredict the exact time of the day, there on the 
33rd Parallel , Baghdad time (NOT US EDT) though that is a 
bit risky since so many variables…like local weather changes could come into 
play.
 
Signed, "Mark" 
Phillips February 18th 
(CDT), 2003

 Well, now that I have 
risked my credibility with some of you…if I am mistaken then say so on March 4th 
2003! Whereas if I am correct.. then just file it away in 
memoryuntil you read our last book. Some of this seemingly bizarre "mystic 
science" the Secret Government apparently adheres 'religiously' toowill be 
covered in detail from our own experiences with these pathetic control freaks. 
And some of it I do not understand whatsoever!

This is not a publicity stunt..it is, 
however strange to some of you,rather itis the result of a personal 
observation based squarely on verifiable experiences  historical facts and 
information gleaned just todayfrom a couple of phone conversations with 
"Beltway Insiders". I feel confident in making such a 
prediction.Some of which will be covered in our last book..so those who 
are reading this now..please don't email us back now asking to explain the 
details of how we know what we know. We do not have the spare time now. 
Those will be in our book..soon! Stay tuned. And..remember, for so long as 
your thoughts remain free…you heard this first from us. Thanks.

 
With Respect,
 
Mark  Cathy
 
www.TRANCE-Formation.com 

P.S. If I am right.. thenmaybe you will tell someone else who 
told you…AND pay special attention towhat happens on June the sixth two 
thousand and six.
 
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[CTRL] Smallpox, Propaganda and Fear

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
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Smallpox, Propaganda and Fear 
by Sara S. DeHart, MSN, Ph.D.    February 17, 2003 


In recent months considerable debate has centered on the ostensible need for and safety of vaccinating US civilian and military personnel as protection against a smallpox epidemic. As in any debate, there are numerous voices expressing diverse perspectives: academics, lobbyists, governmental spokespersons, and communicable disease experts. Also, as in any broad debate, it is sometimes difficult to separate facts from illusion. In the current vaccination debate, politics and special interests are dictating medical and public health policy. This results in poor public health policy and bad medicine. 

Because leaders in the Bush Administration took an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," one might conclude that the government would never risk the physical or mental health of its military personnel or the civilian public-at-large for political reasons. After all, one of the stated purposes of government is to maintain public health and safety. 

Given that caveat, is it reasonable for Mr. Bush to select a disease and order the dispensing of a vaccine that carries a high risk for serious complications to both the recipient and those with whom they have contact without evidence that the disease is present? The Institute of Medicine has gone on record to urge caution about the high risk of the smallpox vaccine and the vaccination program. Because of the significant number of side effects military and other "volunteers" have experienced in the current round of vaccinations this warning should be taken seriously, 

Nonetheless, there is a growing body of evidence that the Bush Administration's ongoing campaign to convince the American public that there is a need for mass inoculation against biological warfare continues unabated. According to Administration officials, a smallpox threat emanates from Iraq and/or the Al Qaeda organization. One might view this campaign as part of the Administration's goal to manipulate public perception and establish a "just cause" foundation for a preemptive war against Iraq. Implied in the call for mass inoculation against smallpox is the assumption that Saddam Hussein has the intention and ability to wage biological warfare against America, the delivery system to get deadly biological agents to American shores and that smallpox is his weapon of choice. 

As a political tool, smallpox has everything a propagandist needs to engage in hyperbole and instill fear in an uninformed public. Smallpox is, in fact, a deadly disease that according to the World Health Organization (WHO) was eradicated in 1977. In 1980 WHO recommended that all countries cease vaccinations because of the high risk from the vaccine itself and the low risk of the disease re-emerging spontaneously. The World Health Organization further recommended that all laboratories, except for two designated in the United States and Russia, destroy their stocks of variolla virus. Rumors persist, however, that other sources of the variolla virus exist in unsanctioned laboratories. 

This fear has been expanded by the overwhelming volume of smallpox-threat "news" emanating from the corporate media. The timing of this "news" coincides with the Bush administration's campaign to convince the American public that preemptive war against Iraq is a "just cause". The timeline between Mr. Bush's announcement of his preemptive war doctrine in June 2002 and his directive in September for mass inoculations against an external bioterrorism smallpox attack has all the sound and fury of an egregiously orchestrated propaganda blitzkrieg. 

Beginning in August 2002, the number of articles published by mainline newspapers increased exponentially. Major news sources in virtually every region of the country published numerous articles on smallpox, its causes, and deadly effects. Importantly, many are now aware of the 30% death-rate that results for those who develop the infection. An ill-informed public, the majority of whom cannot identify their congressional representative, has been inculcated about the danger of biological warfare, in general, and smallpox as a biological weapon, in particular. 

If Bush and the neo-conservatives can convince the American people that the threat of biological terrorism is real and that the source of the threat is Iraq, the people will demand to be inoculated and enthusiastically call for Bush to dispatch US armed forces to Iraq. They will ignore the fact that a preemptive war is likely to increase the probability of a guerilla-like, terrorist attack on the U.S. 

But before lining up for inoculations, Americans need to be aware of certain facts about the vaccine. First, the serious complications from the smallpox vaccination are not insignificant. The most frequent, serious complication from the smallpox vaccination is 

[CTRL] Zionist forces used Biological Terror Against Palestinians

2003-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://64.176.94.191/article1483.htm



Saddam Is not the only criminal to use Biological agents against innocent People. 

Zionist forces used Biological Terror Against Palestinians: 

How and why our government lies about the threat Iraq poses to the US homeland.

Tom Feeley

The information below is taken from a report titled "The Illicit Use of Biological Agents Since 1900". By: W. Seth Carus, Feb 2001. It details how Zionists used biological weapons against the indigenous people of Palestine.

The report highlights the double standards used by our government to rally the world to an invasion of Iraq by nothing other than lies! The author of the report states in his conclusions.

"This study takes an intermediate course. It provides empirical evidence to support the views of those who argue that biological agents are difficult to use.

It also provides abundant evidence that some people have desired to inflict mass casualties on innocent populations through employment of biological agents. Fortunately, these accounts also suggest that such people lacked the capability to follow through with their plans. The research also casts considerable doubt on our ability to predict which biological agents a perpetrator might employ. While some analysts assume that terrorists will use those agents that proved of most interest to state weapons programs, bioterrorists and biocriminals have acquired and used agents of little or no value as weapons of war. Ultimately, the evidence supports the view that bioterrorism is a low probability, potentially high consequence event."

If the report states that bioterrorism is a " a low probability" event why is our government using fear to motivate it's citizens to support an attack on Iraq?

Why is Israel allowed to manufacture chemical and biological weapons while denying the same rights to Arab nations. This policy is based on nothing less than racism. 

It assumes that through some quirk of nature or genetic flaw Arab peoples are predisposed toward the destruction of non-Arab (non-Muslim) peoples. In the opinion of the U.S., Arab's are not to be trusted with WMD. We all know that the reason for this racist double standard is that no Arab country will ever be allowed to have WMD. Not because they are any more likely to use them, but because it is the Bush Cabals desire that no country should ever be able to stand as an equal against the military power of Israel. 

These facts make clear the following points.


 Our government can not be trusted to act in the best interest of it's citizens in relation to foreign policy. 

U.S. foreign policy has been hijacked by a Zionist cabal within the White House whose purpose is to protect the racist State of Israel, regardless of the cost to America and it's interests. The report 





How Zionist forces used Biological Terror Against Palestinians:

 

Case 1947-01: "Zionist" terrorists, 1947-1948

Excerpt from 

"The Illicit Use of Biological Agents Since 1900" 

By: W. Seth Carus, Feb 2001. 

Center for Counterproliferation Research

National Defense University

Washington, D.C.

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Case 1947-01: "Zionist" terrorists, 1947-1948

On July 22, 1948, the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee submitted a thirteen-page report to the United Nations accusing Palestinian Jews of using biological agents against Egypt and Syria. According to the document, "For several years the Zionists have planned and prepared for the use of bacterial warfare. To that end, they set up laboratories in Palestine. The Jews plan to use this inhuman weapon against the Arabs in the Middle East in their war of extermination." The report contended that there was "some" evidence to link Palestinian Jews to cholera outbreaks in Egypt in November, 1947, and in Syria "about February, 1948."

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In addition, the report noted that on May 28, 1948, the Egyptian Ministry of Defense issued a communiqué claiming that the Egyptian military had captured four "Zionists" who were attempting to contaminate wells around Gaza with "a liquid which was discovered to contain the germs of dysentery and typhoid." The Palestinian Arab Higher Committee Report claimed that one of the perpetrators confessed to the plot, which the Egyptian government planned to communicate to the International Red Cross.

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According to another source, two Israeli soldiers were involved in the plot: David Horeen and David Mizrachi. Both were caught by Egyptian forces in May 1948, and were hanged three months later. This account indicates that to Rachel Katzman, Horeen’s sister, said, "I met one of his commanders in a lecture in Jerusalem. I asked him whether my brother had really attempted to poison wells. ‘These were the weapons we had,’ he said, ‘and that’s that." This account also claims that the Israelis poisoned the water supply of the Arab town of Acre, causing a major outbreak, and other Arab villages, to prevent the villagers from 

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