[CTRL] The Tyrant Talks to the Chicago Tribune

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
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Daley cites security in closing of Meigs
Pilots' group blasts overnight demolition of runway

Tribune staff reports
Published March 31, 2003, 1:34 PM CST

Saying he acted out of concern for public safety and desire to spare
citizens months and maybe years of contentious debate, Mayor Richard
Daley today defended his decision to close Meigs Field and have its
runway torn up in the dark of night.

We have done this to protect the millions of people who live, work
and visit downtown Chicago in these very uncertain times, Daley said
at a City Hall news conference after construction equipment early this
morning put Meigs out of commission.

The safety of the entire city has to take precedence over the wishes
of a handful of private pilots and business people, the mayor said.

But Daley, who has long sought to close Meigs and replace it with a
park and nature preserve, said the city had received no specific
threat about a possible terrorist attack involving a private aircraft.

About 11 p.m. Sunday, several backhoes, large trucks carrying
floodlights, generators and other equipment arrived at the airport and
started working on the north-to-south runway. Chicago police barred
access to the field for anyone else.

At dawn, the view from atop the Adler Planetarium showed a series of
large, X-shaped carvings in the concrete runway's center. Large,
illuminated X signs marked either end of the runway. The action came
without public notice.

Asked why the city took the action without warning, Daley said: To do
this any other way would have been needlessly contentious and
jeopardized public safety and prolonged concerns and anxiety among
Chicagoans for months and maybe years.

The city has operated Meigs under a month-to-month lease with the
Chicago Park District. The park district has terminated the lease, so
the city had no choice but to close the airport, city officials said.

Daley said the March 22 federal implementation of a no-fly zone over
the city was simply not enough to ensure the safety of the public.

That rule prohibited small aircraft from flying within 3,000 feet of
the ground over downtown and much of the North Side, but allowed
continued access to Meigs.

But Daley complained that a temporary flight restriction could be
rescinded at any time.

More important, it does not address the problem that occurs every day
as aircraft approach Meigs Field, with a few hundred yards and only a
few seconds' flight time from out tallest buildings.

The mayor also expressed concern for the safety of hundreds of
thousands of people at city festivals, museums and beaches within
range of planes at Meigs. With a sudden turn, they can cause a
terrible tragedy downtown or in our crowded parks.

Daley promised that, if the Federal Aviation Administration doesn't
let owners of 16 planes stranded at Meigs use a still-intact taxiway
for takeoff, the city will reimburse them for removal of their craft
by other means.

Steve Whitney, former president of Friends of Meigs Field, criticized
the city's use of national security as justification for closing the
airport.

Whitney said medical and air-sea rescue aircraft use Meigs, which he
contended could also be used by emergency aircraft following a
downtown disaster.

It makes absolutely no sense from any standpoint, particularly for
homeland security, to close Meigs Field, Whitney said.

At a City Hall press conference after Daley spoke, Whitney described
the mayor's action as a land grab and an abuse of power. He said
that his organization would study possible legal action.

We are absolutely shocked and dismayed, said Phil Boyer, president
of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, another organization
that has fought Meigs' closing.

Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value, Boyer said. The
sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong.

But Boyer and an FAA spokesman conceded that the city appeared to have
the legal right to close Meigs.

The city can do this because Meigs is an unobligated airport, said
the FAA's Tony Molinaro. About three years ago, Chicago repaid federal
grant funds that had been used to improve Meigs, he said.

The closure did not violate FAA regulations, and the city had the
authority to issue a formal Notice to Airmen notifying pilots of the
closed runway, Molinaro said. An official with the Chicago Department
of Aviation said the notice was issued at 3:02 a.m.

We at the FAA were concerned to learn this morning of the decision to
close Meigs Field, and we have heard already from members of the
general aviation community, and we share their concern, Molinaro said.

We feel that removing any centrally 

[CTRL] Just wait 'til later

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927774,00.html
We don't understand Iraqis, admits US officer

Regime not about to collapse, war planner concedes

Rory McCarthy in Camp as-Sayliya, Qatar
Wednesday April 2, 2003
The Guardian

Two weeks into the war in Iraq, some senior military commanders are
beginning to admit that American understanding of the Arab world is
limited and that they still have to convince the Iraqis that they are
liberators, not occupiers.

In one of the most low-key assessments of the war so far, a high-ranking
American officer said it would be unrealistic to expect Baghdad to fall
within days.

There is a big cultural difference between the US and the Arab world.
That makes it hard, said the highly experienced officer, who has been
closely involved in the planning of the war.

We Americans are not very good at judging what a totalitarian regime is
like, looks like and acts like. There is an information psychology front that
we are trying to push but we are probably not as sophisticated about it as
we would want to be.

The officer described the Iraqi regime as resilient but said it relied on
immense pressure to maintain loyalty. Iraqis would turn against their
government sooner or later, he said.

In a rare departure from the intense campaign run by the Pentagon and
Central Command in Qatar to present the motives for war in the best light,
he accepted that many Iraqis were still not convinced that the US and
British forces on the ground were coming as liberators.

Are we getting the message across to the educated people? We are. But
to the people that want to be moved by emotion and believe that there
are no good motives and think that the US are here for oil and only for oil
we have got to get the message across better, he said.

He compared the Iraqis living under Saddam Hussein's regime to the
Germans in the 1930s living under Adolf Hitler and said that in both
countries the extent of repression and a sense of nationalism both
severely limited resistance. The system of control, the system of
oppression, the system of nationalistic symbolism prevents them from
taking out the leadership, he said.

Intercepts of communications between Republican Guard units have
indicated they are being weakened by the intensive ground and air assault.
But the regime was not about to collapse, the officer said. You
immediately come to the conclusion that you have immediately got to push
on this house of cards and it will immediately come down. That is simply
not true.

If you have an unrealistic expectation that Baghdad is going to fall in
three days I might describe it as wrong.

Many analysts expected the Shias in the south of Iraq in particular to
welcome the arrival of British and American forces because of the
persecution they have suffered at the hands of the regime. But the south
has provided some of the stiffest resistance of the war so far.

The officer admitted one reason was the British and American military's
failure to back the uprising after the 1991 Gulf War. We let them down in
1991, the officer said. When you let someone down once you don't want
to let them down twice.

He said that the Iraqis operated a very powerful enforcement and
repression system that discouraged the Shias from rising up and that many
had fresh memories of the brutality with which the 1991 uprising was
crushed. The average Iraqi only knows Saddam and Saddam has won the
lottery every time. Until we prove that he is not going to be a survivor
some people are not going to believe it, he said.

The officer also appeared to distance himself from the increasingly critical
vocabulary used by generals giving the daily briefings at Central Command,
who have begun to label Iraqi paramilitaries as terrorist death squads.

We have to watch about falling into the trap of a certain type of language
that describes things, he said.

He said the decision to rush armoured forces north towards Baghdad in
the first hours of the ground invasion was an example of commanders
taking one of the windows of opportunity sometimes presented during a
war. You will have to let historians judge how all that worked out. It was
an attempt to take advantage of a very interesting window of opportunity
that opened up. I salute the man that took it.

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[CTRL] Loyalists in Full Control

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6008-2003Apr1.html
washingtonpost.com

Residents Say Hussein Loyalists in Full Control
Impact of British Siege Described as Minimal

By Keith B. Richburg
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, April 2, 2003; Page A19

SHATT AL-BASRA BRIDGE, Iraq, April 1 -- For 13 days now, British artillery
and U.S. helicopters have pounded Iraqi tanks, mortar positions and
government targets inside Basra. The Baath Party headquarters has been
hit twice. British commandos regularly raid the strategic port to abduct
militia leaders -- all, British officials say, intended to pave the way for
British troops to seize control of Iraq's second-largest city.

But to hear some Basra residents tell it, the punishing artillery barrages
have had little effect in weakening the hold of President Saddam Hussein.
At the Shatt-al-Basra Bridge on the city's southern limits and along the
highway linking Basra to the nearby town of Zubair, ask residents who is in
charge of Basra today and the universal answer is, the same force that has
held sway for the last three decades.

The Baath Party and the army, said Ali, 39, who was on his way to the
Zubair market to buy tomatoes to sell in Basra. They are still very strong.

Ali, who once worked for the Korean carmaker Hyundai and speaks
passable English, paused for a moment on the bridge while British soldiers
at a checkpoint searched his truck for weapons. On condition that only
his first name be used, he provided an account of a city where life
functions almost normally, despite the standoff between British forces
ringing the city and militiamen and soldiers holed up inside.

The markets are functioning normally in Basra, he said. Dismissing reports
that civilians in the predominantly Shiite Muslim city had tried to rebel
against Hussein's government, he added, There's been absolutely no
uprising.

Ali's view was more or less echoed by other Basra residents, who are
allowed to come and go with relative freedom over this single bridge left
open by the British. The only restriction is that cars must pass through a
British military checkpoint, where any vehicle deemed suspicious --
dodgy, as the soldiers put it -- is singled out for a complete search.

It's great. No problem, said a young man with a neatly trimmed beard and
wearing a traditional loose-fitting black robe. Asked who was in charge in
the city, he replied, Baath Party. No army, just Baath.

Another man in brown, with a moustache and flecks of gray in his hair, said
the main problems for Basra's 1.3 million residents are on-again, off-again
electricity and a shortage of water, but not a reign of terror by Hussein
loyalists, as described by British and U.S. officials.

The people are living normally, said Falih, a teacher, speaking in English as
he waited at the roadside with other passengers as their packed minibus
was searched. They go to the market, they go shopping, they go to the
hospital when they are sick. Just there is this checkpoint here.

He added, Life is normal.

The accounts of travelers moving back and forth from the besieged city
seem to belie the depiction of Basra as gripped by fear, with a restive
population under the sway of a ruthless militia that uses people as human
shields. People here crossing to the town of Zubair, mostly on the way to
markets, said they are free to come and go, and most intended to return
to Basra after shopping.

You see the same faces, said Sgt. Ian Pickford of the Irish Guards, who
was posted at the bridge checkpoint from midnight until noon. A lot of
them come out with nothing, but go in with vegetables.

Among those he recognized was an old man riding on a rickety donkey cart
who was a regular passer at the checkpoint.

The residents moving back and forth also seemed to counter some of the
more dire predictions from aid groups that Basra faced a humanitarian
crisis. Most said clean drinking water is a problem. But with markets open,
and traffic flowing to Zubair, where the streets are now crowded with
vendors, food appears to be less of a problem.

British commanders in the area said their information, from local residents,
is that people in Basra should have enough food to last about one more
month. A U.N. aid official contacted in Kuwait said the Iraqi government
had been distributing extra food rations since summer in anticipation of a
war and that the average family staying at home should have enough food
to last until the end of April.

The residents did confirm what British commanders in the area have been
saying since the siege began, that the army and militia fighters inside have
interspersed with the civilian population, making it difficult for the British
to pinpoint their positions. The Baath Party people stand near the civilian
homes, said the driver of a dark blue minibus, speaking through an
interpreter. And then the Americans and British fire on them.

With few foreigners having access to Basra, it is 

[CTRL] Once the battle begins, all plans are out of the window

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.counterpunch.org/lind04012003.html
March 31, 2003

The Pitfalls  of War Planning

The Duke of Medina Sidonia

By WILLIAM S. LIND

In planning a war, the most important task is to understand what can be
planned and what cannot. In general, the initial disposition of forces can
be planned, and it must be planned with great care. As Field Marshal von
Moltke said, A mistake in initial dispositions can seldom be put right. But
Moltke also said, No plan survives its first contact with the enemy. Once
you cross the enemy's border, you have to adjust and improvise
constantly. The conduct of war, as distinct from preparation for war, is
(Moltke again) a matter of expedients. Count von Schlieffen thought
otherwise, and in the famous Schlieffen Plan he attempted to extend the
logic of railway mobilization planning into the campaign itself. Not
surprisingly, the result was failure and, for Germany, a lost war.

A second planning error is to make the war plan depend on a single
assumption. Here, the Spanish Armada provides an example. The single
assumption on which the Armada depended was that the Spanish
commander in the Netherlands, the Duke of Parma, would somehow get his
own army to the sea and out into the English Channel, where the Armada
would protect its crossing. The Armada's commander, the Duke of Medina
Sidonia, did everything he was expected to do. He brought his fleet into
the Channel in splendid order, ready to convey Parma's troops. But Parma
never came. All Medina Sidonia could do was try to get home (he made it,
with his flagship and a goodly portion of his fleet).

Yet a third error in planning is to assume that the enemy will fight the way
you would. The classic example here is Napoleon's march to Moscow.
Napoleon knew he would have fought a great battle to keep the enemy
from taking his capital. But Tsar Alexander did not do that (he fought at
Borodino, but was careful not to let his army be destroyed there). He let
Napoleon take Moscow, moving the Russian army east and south. Then, he
waited. Baffled, Napoleon had no choice but to march back the way he
came -- losing nine-tenths of his army in the process.

How does our current war with Iraq look, if we examine it in light of these
three errors in military planning? Regrettably, not very good. Normally, the
American military can be counted on to plan initial deployments
thoroughly, and, once again, it did. But the Pentagon threw the plan out
at the last minute, resulting in chaos. James Kitfield wrote in the March 28
National Journal,

By far the most dramatic and disruptive change to the battle plan,
however, was Rumsfeld's decision last November to slash Central Command's
request for forces...Notably, the Pentagon scrapped the Time Phased
Force Deployment Data, or TipFid, by which regional commanders would
identify forces needed for a specific campaign, and the individual armed
services would manage their deployments by order of priority.

This mess was multiplied by the Schlieffen error: we had a rigid plan for
the campaign itself, and did not adjust it despite changes in the situation.
Specifically, when the Turks said no to the passage of American forces
through Turkey, putting an end to the planned northern front, we
continued with the rest of the plan as if nothing had changed. The result
at this point is a campaign that looks like a balloon on a string, with a
single Army division (about 3,500 combat troops) deep in Iraq and a slender
thread of a supply line connecting it to its food, water, fuel and
ammunition. The First Marine Division is slowly putting itself in the same
situation. No classical strategist can see the picture without his hair
standing on end.

On top of all that, like the Armada, our plan depended on a single
assumption: that the Iraqis would not fight. Unfortunately, they are
fighting, leaving General Franks in the position of the Duke of Medina
Sidonia. One division was enough to accept the surrender of Baghdad, but
one division is far from enough to take Baghdad. One hates to say so, but
the fact that the Iraqis are fighting has caused our initial campaign plan to
collapse.

Finally, we seem to have assumed that the Iraqis would fight as we would,
relying primarily on their heavy armor units. Instead, they have fallen back
on the age-old Arab tradition of light cavalry warfare, directed against our
rear. Arabs have a dismal record in tank battles, but at light cavalry
warfare, they are quite good. We might recall that an Englishman named
Lawrence used Arabs that way against the Turks, with pretty decent
results.

The pitfalls in planning a war or a campaign are many. History does,
however, warn us what some of them are. Perhaps it is time for Clio to ask
Mr. Rumsfeld why he fell into three of the most obvious anyway.

William S. Lind is Director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the
Free Congress Foundation.
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[CTRL] Uranium: Its Uses and Hazards

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
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http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html


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Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

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On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:21, David Sutherland wrote:

 'anal ysis'.

I think that says everything about your intentions here. Your anal intent is alarming. 
Is
your dick also made from depleated uranium? Shall you stuff it up Sadam's a***? You'd
love that, wouldn't you?

Steve



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[CTRL] Stalemate

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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Analysis

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927902,00.html

Arab hopes rest on toppling Saddam and humbling the US

Martin Woollacott
Wednesday April 2, 2003
The Guardian

The chastening of America has begun and the likely outcome of the war is
coming into view - one regime gone, in Baghdad, another humbled, in
Washington. According to those who analyse Arab policy and follow Arab
opinion from here, the hopes of Arab governments now centre on this
prospect.

They do not want Saddam Hussein to survive, according to Shibley
Telhami, of the University of Maryland, a well known broadcaster to the
Arab world, and know the United States could not let that happen, but
are glad that America is not having the easy war it expected.

Arab states wanted the quick war the US promised but also feared the
triumphalist America which would have emerged from it. Now the least
worst option for them would be the less confident US which a harder war
might produce, one which would not contemplate further military
adventures, would get out of Iraq quickly, and might redeem itself by a
more even handed approach to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Much of the rest of the world might well go along with this. Yet, to use
one of the new military words which have invaded Washington talk, how do
you calibrate such a victory? The too easy part is a given, but how hard
a war would be too hard? Too hard, and you skirt the destabilisation of
Arab regimes, even more encouragement of terrorist recruitment, and
even the possible retreat of an angry US from the region, from all
engagement, whether good or bad.

The problem of public opinion has become worse not only because every
bomb that falls on civilians and every checkpoint killing further enrages
Arabs, but also because the idea that Saddam might physically win has
begun to take hold. The success of the Iraqi regime in tripping up US and
British forces has moved Arab public opinion, according to Professor
Tellhami, from a resigned acceptance of western victory toward the view
that Saddam may somehow defeat the US.

A week ago, says Telhami, if I had asked Arabs if Saddam had any chance,
they would have said No. Today they would say Yes. And this assessment,
fed by the Arab coverage of the war, is daily playing into the homes of
Iraqis. Their portrayal as Arab heroes must add to the divisions and
complexities of the Iraqi mood.

In the Panglossian world of Centcom, where everything is always for the
best in the best of all possible military worlds, the problem of the political
war, which must be short and take few lives, and the war of the generals,
which may have to be long and take many, also lurks behind the mandatory
optimism. But, in the American coverage, it is often cast in terms of what
is happening, or may happen, to the troops, or reflected in investigations
of quarrels at the Pentagon. There seems to be no urgency in examining
the military choices in the light, above all, of the politics of the war. Prof
Telhami believes the war is already politically lost and that there remains
only a choice between bad and worse outcomes.

Other American students of the Middle East, like Edward P. Djerejian,
director of the Baker Institute for Public Policy at Rice University,
Houston, and a former US ambassador to Israel and Syria, are not of that
mind. We are wedged between the two pressures, he says, if the war is
prolonged and the resistance continues, that could make it much more of
a political balancing act.

His argument is that the damage done during the war can be repaired by
the right policies in post-Saddam Iraq and by immediate attention to the
conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.

There will be a reckoning for those so enthusiastically embracing Iraqi
resistance. First, when US victory comes, second, less certainly, when the
Iraqi reaction is more clearly grasped, and, third, perhaps, when post-war
US policy reveals itself.

But what the Arabs have almost certainly got right is that even if the war
takes a sudden turn for the better, post- Saddam America will be a very
different place from the country that existed only two weeks ago, perhaps
weaker, certainly more cautious. Syria, rhetorically backing the Iraqis, is a
straw which shows the way the wind is blowing.

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[CTRL] The New History Ain't Been Yet Writ

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/01/international/worldspecial/01QATA.h
tml?ex=1050250043ei=1en=1c4882019d301c1f
April 1, 2003

Top Commander Suggests Shiites Haven't Rebelled Because U.S. Failed
Them in '91

By JOHN M. BRODER




AMP SAYLIYA, Qatar, March 31  The United States, through its past acts,
is largely to blame for the failure of Iraq's Shiite majority to rise in revolt
against Saddam Hussein, a senior American military commander at Central
Command said here today.

We bear a certain responsibility for what we didn't do in 1991, the officer
said.

After the Persian Gulf war in 1991, the American government encouraged a
Shiite uprising, then did not act when Mr. Hussein's forces slaughtered
thousands of civilians.

We let them down once, the officer said in a background session with
reporters. We're not going to do it again.

The officer, who spoke on condition that his name not be used, said
millions of leaflets and round-the-clock radio broadcasts into Iraq had
failed to convince the Iraqi population that the United States and its allies
were fully committed to overthrowing the Baghdad government.

He said years of repression and a succession of what he called barbarous
acts against civilians by government agents and militia since the start of
the current war had caused the people to largely refrain from acts of
rebellion.

If you have been beaten up and beaten down the way they have been for
12 years, it should not surprise us that they're waiting to see, said the
officer.

Nonetheless, he expressed optimism that ultimately the Iraqis would
recognize that the American-led forces were serious about toppling Mr.
Hussein and dismantling his apparatus of terror.

The officer said cultural misunderstandings and a failure to learn the
lessons of recent history contributed to miscalculations by American
military and civilian leaders. He said those planning and prosecuting the
war might have failed to appreciate how deeply Mr. Hussein's personality
and organs of repression pervade Iraqi society.

There are big cultural differences between ourselves and the Arab
world, he said. Their version of the truth is different from our version of
the truth. They come at it from a different way.

He said that on some days at least, Baghdad was winning the public
relations war in the Arab world by showing pictures of wounded children
and devastated public marketplaces, while American officials were showing
antiseptic videotapes of precision weapons hitting buildings. The coalition
has not effectively shown skeptical audiences in the Arab world and
around the globe the brutality of the Iraqi war effort.

The way this regime fights is despicable, it's barbarous, he said. We
cannot allow anyone, especially in the Arab world, to believe that the way
they fight is honorable.

He said Arabs were, as a rule, more emotional than Americans and
Europeans. Those who have lived for decades under what he called Mr.
Hussein's totalitarian rule tend to discount, even distrust, American
promises of liberation and relief aid. He compared the Iraqi population to
the Germans under Hitler and the Russians under Stalin, who were so
cowed by their charismatic leaders that they did not revolt in an organized
way.

He said Iraq was not, as some strategists inside and outside the
government presumed, a house of cards that would topple quickly if
given a modest push. That's just not true, he said.

Mr. Hussein appears invincible to many Iraqis who have known no other
leader. He's won the lottery every time, the officer said. Saddam is a
huge symbol for these people. He's everywhere. He's everything.

That is why American bombers and missiles repeatedly attack Iraqi state
television, and why British troops in Basra are knocking down statues and
posters of Mr. Hussein.

The officer said that in some places at least, the Iraqi people were close
to believing that the end of the government was near.

They are rising up, even though slower than we hoped, he said. I sense
we're near the tipping point in Basra. I sense we're near the tipping point
in Nasiriya.

Intercepted communications between Iraqi army commanders and
conversations with Iraqi officers who have surrendered or been captured
indicate that at least some in the military believe that the government is in
its final days, he said.

They are worried, he said. And they ought to be.

But he acknowledged that ground actions  and particularly the heavy
bombardment of Baghdad, which apparently has resulted in dozens of
civilian deaths and injuries  might have had the effect of stiffening the
anti-American resolve of at least some of the citizenry.

He also said, however, that he believed that more Iraqi civilians had been
killed by the Iraqi government than by any of our errant bombs.

He charged that scores of civilians had been killed by the Iraqis in Basra
and that more than 60 had been executed in Mosul.

But he warned that more American and Iraqi casualties were a 

[CTRL] Soaring heat

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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Soaring heat and water shortages in Iraq - UN
Wednesday, 2 April 2003, 11:11 am
Press Release: United Nations

UN relief agencies warn of soaring heat and water shortages in Iraq

1 April  As United Nations relief agencies struggled to move more
humanitarian aid into Iraq, stifling heat amid a continuing water shortage
emerged today as a new threat to the health of the civilian population,
especially children.

It is interesting and important to note that the temperature on the
border between Kuwait and Iraq today is a stifling 37 degrees - 99 degrees
Fahrenheit, Geoffrey Keele, spokesman for the UN Children's Fund
(UNICEF) told the daily briefing in Amman, Jordan, on UN humanitarian
activities.

In weather like this, the need for water, already acute in several places,
becomes more and more urgent. Dehydration among young children is a
concern. Access to safe water also remains a concern, and grows, as the
temperature increases.

Mr. Keele noted that three tankers, under contract to UNICEF from
private companies and carrying almost 100,000 litres of water, managed
yesterday to make their way safely to Um Qasr in southern Iraq across the
border from Kuwait. Deliveries were made to local hospitals and health
centres - making sure that supplies went to those who needed them most.

There was now a limited supply of water and electricity serving different
parts of Basra, Iraq's second city to the north of Um Qasr, where the 1.7
million residents have been hard pressed for both since the early days of
fighting, said Veronique Taveau, spokesperson for the UN Humanitarian
Coordinator in Iraq (OHCI).

At the Wafa Al-Qaed pumping station outside the city, the International
Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and local technicians were trying to
connect the three remaining back-up generators providing power to the
station, she said. Despite slight improvements in water provision, the ICRC
remains concerned about the water and power supply situation.

The World Health Organization (WHO) reported that while information
coming from the centre and south of Iraq indicated there were relatively
good medical stocks, water shortage was the most serious constraint.

The hospitals in Samarra, Najaf and Nassiria were believed to be affected
by a serious lack of water, spokesperson Fadela Chaib said. For the time
being, despite the high potential, there were no reports of infectious
diseases outbreaks throughout the country, she added.

In the north of Iraq, Mr. Keele said two trucks with 16 tons of medical
supplies, 6 tons of water purification supplies and educational materials
were making their way through customs and inspections on the border
from Turkey.

The UN High Commissioner for the Refugees (UNHCR) continued to report
no significant refugee arrivals anywhere in the region.

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[CTRL] Genie of Disaster

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http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=24614
Arab News
SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY

The War Has Released the Genie of Disaster
George Monbiot, The Guardian
Published on Wednesday, April 02, 2003

LONDON, 2 April 2003  So far, the liberators have succeeded only in
freeing the souls of the
Iraqis from their bodies. Saddam Husseins troops have proved less inclined
to surrender than they had anticipated, and the civilians less prepared to
revolt. But while no one can now ignore the immediate problems this
illegal war has met, we are beginning, too, to understand what should have
been obvious all along: that, however this conflict is resolved, the
outcome will be a disaster.

It seems to me that there are three possible results of the war with Iraq.
The first, which is now beginning to look unlikely, is that Saddam Hussein is
swiftly dispatched, his generals and ministers abandon their posts and the
people who had been cowed by his militias and his secret police rise up
and greet the invaders with their long-awaited blessing of flowers and rice.
The troops are welcomed into Baghdad, and start preparing for what the
US administration claims will be a transfer of power to a democratic
government. For a few weeks, this will look like victory. Then several things
are likely to happen. The first is that, elated by its reception in Baghdad,
the American government decides, as Donald Rumsfeld hinted again last
week, to visit its perpetual war upon another nation: Syria, Iran, Yemen,
Somalia, North Korea or anywhere else whose conquest may be calculated
to enhance the stature of the president and the scope of his empire. It is
almost as if Bush and his advisers are determined to meet the nemesis
which their hubris invites.

Our next discovery is likely to be, as John Gray pointed out some months
ago, that the choice of regimes in the Middle East is not a choice between
secular dictatorship and secular democracy, but between secular
dictatorship and Islamic democracy.

What the people of the Middle East want and what the US government says
they want appear to be rather different things, and the tension between
the two objectives will be a source of instability and conflict until Western
governments permit those people to make their own choices unmolested.

That is unlikely to happen until the oil runs out. The Iraqis may celebrate
their independence by embracing a long-suppressed religious fanaticism,
and the United States may respond by seeking to crush it.

The United States might also soon discover why Saddam Hussein became
such an abhorrent dictator. Iraq is a colonial artifact, forced together by
the British from three Ottoman provinces, whose people have wildly
different religious and ethnic loyalties. It is arguable that this absurd
construction can be sustained only by brute force. A US-backed
administration seeking to keep this nation of warring factions intact may
rapidly encounter Saddams problem, and, in so doing, rediscover his
solution.

Perhaps we should not be surprised to see that the Bush administration
was, until recently, planning merely to replace the two most senior
officials in each of Saddams ministries, leaving the rest of his government
in place.

The alternative would be to permit Iraq to fall apart. While fragmentation
may, in the long run, be the only feasible future for its people, it is
impossible, in the short term, to see how this could happen without
bloodshed, as every faction seeks to carve out its domain. Whether the US
tries to oversee this partition or flees from it as the British did from India,
its victory in these circumstances is likely to sour very quickly.

The second possible outcome of this war is that the US kills Saddam and
destroys the bulk of his army, but has to govern Iraq as a hostile occupying
force. Saddam Hussein, whose psychological warfare appears to be rather
more advanced than that of the Americans, may have ensured that this is
now the most likely result.

The invaders cannot win without taking Baghdad, and Saddam is seeking to
ensure that they cannot take Baghdad without killing thousands of
civilians. His soldiers will shelter in homes, schools and hospitals. In trying
to destroy them, the American and British troops may blow away the last
possibility of winning the hearts and minds of the residents. Saddams
deployment of suicide bombers has already obliged the invaders to deal
brutally with innocent civilians.

The comparisons with Palestine will not be lost on the Iraqis, or on anyone
in the Middle East. The United States, like Israel, will discover that
occupation is bloody and, ultimately, unsustainable. Its troops will be
harassed by snipers and suicide bombers, and its response to them will
alienate even the people who were grateful for the overthrow of Saddam.
We can expect the US, in these circumstances, hurriedly to proclaim
victory, install a feeble and doomed Iraqi government, and pull out before
the whole place 

[CTRL] surreal tales of Iraq war

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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April Foolers spin surreal tales of Iraq war

April 2 2003

The unsuspecting could have been tricked into thinking the US-led war in
Iraq had taken a sudden surreal twist yesterday, as newspapers around the
world spun bitter-sweet April Fool's reports about the conflict.

In South Africa, the Afrikaans Beeld newspaper told its readers that Iraqi
President Saddam Hussein had accepted an offer of exile in the country in
exchange for a top job running the country's oil industry,

As part of the deal, Saddam would be offered a luxury game farm near the
smoggy oil city of Sasolburg, the daily wrote.

Washington was said to be excited about the offer, which would make the
Iraqi leader somebody else's problem, the paper fibbed.

Oscar withdrawn in punishment, headlined Greece's Eleftheros Typos
daily, reporting from Hollywood that the film academy had called back an
award given to Michael Moore, the anti-war US director of the subversive
documentary Bowling for Columbine.

Moore had lashed out at the US administration during the award ceremony
on March 23.

We are against this war Mr Bush. Shame on you. Shame on you!, he said,
bringing both cheers and boos from
the glitterati audience.

Germany's Tageszeitung ran a spoof report saying that tensions over Iraq
had led Washington to rethink the site for its new embassy in Berlin.

The current site is on Berlin's Pariser Platz - which means Parisian square -
and directly opposite the French mission.

France spearheaded fierce diplomatic resistance to US plans for war
against Iraq, dashing hopes by London, Washington and Madrid of obtaining
a second UN resolution authorising military action.

Tageszeitung, quoting American sources, said US diplomats could live with
being next to the French, but only if the name of the square is changed.

Another spoof, from the Belgian paper Le Soir, reported that like Saddam,
Belgian Foreign Minister Louis Michel had several near-perfect lookalikes
who cover for him during television appearances.

Michel, a strong opponent of the war against Iraq, has become a
something of a regular on Belgian television debates, leading some to joke
that he seemed to be everywhere at once.

In Japan, the Tokyo Shimbun newspaper reported that the world's largest
oilfields had been discovered in Tokyo Bay, a revelation set to tip the
balance of power with Washington radically in Japan's favour.

The paper separately reported that Japan planned to send robots
modelled on the popular 1960s cartoon character Astro Boy to help with
post-war reconstruction in Iraq.

It is partly aimed at showing the world the right way to use science
technology following the loss of confidence in US high-tech weapons, the
paper wrote.

Kenya's East African Standard reported that US-led forces in Iraq were
looking for reinforcements in Kenya, Ethiopia and Sudan, better adapted
to the desert and semi-arid conditions, which were giving the coalition
forces a rough time, the report said.

AFP

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[CTRL] Dirty Laundry Done Dirt Cheap

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http://www.allhatnocattle.net/zelda_morgan_war_correspondent.htm

By Zelda Morgan - All Hat No Cattle War Correspondent
Dirty Laundry Done Dirt Cheap
March 31 2003



Media Alert ... WARNING! ... Code Red. Recently, Microsoft/ GE ... er um,
MSNBC/NBC shit-canned Peter Arnett. They dropped him faster than a
blonde dropping an algebraic equation just for telling the truth. Since this
travesty occurred --since these slime balls pulled his press pass -- I've gone
underground for the time being and I will return your messages when the
drugs wear off. - Anita Beer's outgoing message on her cell-phone
voicemail.





We, here at AHNC, would like to offer Peter Arnett a job. It just so
happens we were discussing adding a new assistant as the workload here
has been overwhelming for myself and the editors. This war has been filling
our time and we still have many other issues to address. An additional
employee on our staff would take up the slack. We understand Peter
Arnett is back in the market and we would like to make him an offer.

Peter, the job description, as my assistant, is simple and clear. You take
care of my every need while I am performing the important tasks of a
Senior War Correspondent. You will be asked to do the heavy lifting and
make a good cup of coffee (no flavored beans, please).

You might think of joining a health club and do some working out -- tighten
up the abs -- lose the man boobs. Please refer to my Radioactive column
on the topic of comb-overs. We will get you a hat to wear.

The job requires lots of travel and you will need to be ready to go on a
moment's notice. Naturally, I will be riding in the first class section and,
while you are in your probationary period, you will be riding in the wheel-
hub. Just like the old days at CNN, eh, Pete?

You can pretty much say anything you want. The editors will slash and
gash their way through your work anyway. You will not recognize it when
they are done. They are miserly about their bits and baud. I send them
novels and they reduce me down to a few lousy paragraphs. So write what
you will and don't worry about getting canned. They are happy to get
anything to butcher up.

And, Petey, I don't have to tell you how lousy the pay is in this industry.
We do not do it for the money, now, do we? We really don't care if our
rent is paid, do we? Our team of attorneys will forward the contract to
your team of agents. You all just fill in the blanks and we will meet again
with the arbitrator nearby. We do it for the love of our country, don't we,
Petemeister?

The benefits package cannot be beat. Unless you are an Iraqi citizen, you
will need some health coverage. AHNC has you covered like a warm, fuzzy
blanket. We legally marry or adopt as necessary and we are all covered
through our Aunt Receptionist who is legally married to a steel worker in
Pennsylvania who works for Kaiser and we all have family plan, health care!


Sadly, there is no retirement fund to offer. The fund was depleted and is
now in debt. Our retirement was being managed by Merrill-Lynch and it is
now all gone. The pension portfolio used to have Enron, WorldCom,
ImClone, Tyco, El Paso, Andersen, etc.

Peter, you have a good future as a lifestyle journalist. We think you will
work out well in our organization. Here at AHNC, we are not afraid of the
truth. We are not intimidated easily. You are welcome to express yourself
as an individual here.






Open note to the guy who sent me the flowers.

I love you too. Good boy! Nice job. Way to go!
Bravo! Encore!!


Zelda Morgan, AHNC War Correspondent at your service.
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[CTRL] Neocon Con

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/03/04/01.html
The Neocon Con: Deception and the Drive to WWIII

by Maureen Farrell

Nothing Saddam does can save him, says Powell

Even if Baghdad readmits United Nations arms inspectors, the United
States will still pursue a 'regime change' policy, with or without the
support of its allies.

- The Sydney Morning Herald, February 8, 2002
(nine months before U.N. inspectors returned to Iraq)
http://old.smh.com.au/news/0202/08/world/world9.html

Anyone who's been paying attention recognizes the prescient futility
expressed in the article above. Serving as a marker of sorts, it's but a sliver
in a body of evidence regarding the duplicitous nature of Bush's United
Nations diplomacy. Yet many Americans, equating blindness with
patriotism, are convinced the president acted in good faith and went the
extra mile to reach a diplomatic solution. And sadly, in confusing our
allies' disarmament intentions with Bush's regime change imperative, they've
funneled angst and anger towards the French, while missing vital subplots
to this saga. In short, patriotic Americans have failed to notice that: 1)
The Bush administration relied on a series of fabrications and forgeries to
make its case 2) This war was planned before Sept. 11 and 3) The neocons
are deliberating driving us towards World War III.

A Madman's Guide to Chaos

The Project for a New American Century has been on the radar for some
time. Largely described as a group of neoconservative interventionists
dreaming of empire, their impact was succinctly explained by University of
Pennsylvania political science professor Ian Lustick. After 9/11, (PNAC) was
able to benefit from the gigantic eruption of political capital, combined
with the supply of military preponderance in the hands of the president,
Lustick said during a recent Nightline appearance. And this small group,
therefore, was able to gain direct contact and even control, now, of the
White House.

Connected to the president through Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld, Lewis Scooter Libby and Jeb Bush, PNAC foretold America's
future foreign policy in its 2000 report, Rebuilding America's Defenses.
America's 'core mission,' they announced, would be to fight and
decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars. And so, the con
was on. Article Link

As moderate Arabs become radicalized by the war in Iraq, an even more
disturbing picture unfolds. While spouting platitudes about peace, this
administration, as columnist Joshua Micah Marshall asserts, is gunning for
a full-scale confrontation between the United States and political Islam.
Even more to the point is Marshall's claim that, Chaos in the Middle East is
not the Bush hawks' nightmare -- it's their plan.

Exposing these neoconservatives' willingness to deceive, Marshall writes:

In the [Bush Administration's] view, invasion of Iraq was not merely, or
even primarily, about getting rid of Saddam Hussein. Nor was it really about
weapons of mass destruction. . . . Rather, the administration sees the
invasion as only the first move in a wider effort to reorder the power
structure of the entire Middle East. Prior to the war, the president himself
never quite said this openly. But hawkish neoconservatives within his
administration gave strong hints. In February, Undersecretary of State
John Bolton told Israeli officials that after defeating Iraq, the United States
would deal with Iran, Syria, and North Korea. Meanwhile, neoconservative
journalists have been channeling the administration's thinking. Late last
month, The Weekly Standard's Jeffrey Bell reported that the administration
has in mind a world war between the United States and a political wing of
Islamic fundamentalism. . .

In other words, The Weekly Standard, edited by PNAC co-founder William
Kristol, is admitting that the neocons are actually hoping to spark a world
war - and even worse, they're willing to sacrifice U.S. citizens to do so.
Marshall explains:

So events that may seem negative -- Hezbollah for the first time targeting
American civilians; U.S. soldiers preparing for war with Syria -- while
unfortunate in themselves, are actually part of the hawks' broader agenda.
Each crisis will draw U.S. forces further into the region and each
countermove in turn will create problems that can only be fixed by still
further American involvement, until democratic governments -- or, failing
that, U.S. troops -- rule the entire Middle East.

There is a startling amount of deception in all this -- of hawks deceiving
the American people, and perhaps in some cases even themselves.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/ 2003/0304.marshall.html

Military Matters

A more troubling deception lies in the ways neocons have misled American
troops. Though the CIA warned the Bush administration about possible
Iraqi tactics, Ken Adelman, Dick Cheney and Richard Perle brayed about
quick and certain success. I believe demolishing (Iraqi President 

[CTRL]

2003-04-02 Thread Ed Raymond
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Forwarded

   I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of one planfor 
peace. Books, not Bombs won't work. The head mullahs won't let anyone read them. If 
they do, they poke their eyes out.

   (Sorry if this offends any non-conservatives. -- I take that back, no I'm not.)

   Here's the plan:

   1) The US will apologize to the world for our interference in their
   affairs, past  present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini and the rest of   them  
good old boys'. We will never interfere again.

   2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with
   Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. Wewould 
station troops at our borders. No more sneaking through holes inthe fence.

   3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together andleave.
   We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be
   gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where theyare.
   France would welcome them.

   4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days
   unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be
   allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself, don't hidehere.
   Asylum would not ever be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab
   drivers.

   5) No foreign students over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If
   they don't attend classes, they get a D and it's back home baby.

   6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energywise.
   This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will
   require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. Thecaribou will 
have to cope for a while.

   7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for
   their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else.

   8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, wewill not 
interfere. They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds,   rain, cement or 
whatever they need. Besides' most of what we give them   is stolen or given to the 
army. The people who need it most get verylittle, if any anyway.

   9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an island some place. We don't need thespies and 
fair weather friends here. Besides, it would make a goodhomeless shelter or lockup 
for illegal aliens.

   10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no onecan call 
us Ugly Americans any longer.

   Now, that's a Plan!





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[CTRL] Another conservative myth bites the dust

2003-04-02 Thread flw
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American Newsreel
Another conservative myth bites the dust
By DOUG THOMPSON
Apr 2, 2003, 06:00

One constant exists in the Internet universe: Pick on something near and
dear to conservatives and they will flood your email box with nasty
messages, calling you a traitor or unpatriotic or anti-American or
all of the above.

Case in point: a recent item about journalistic joke Geraldo Rivera and his
equally-laughable employer: FoxNews. No, the right-wingers didn't jump to
Geraldo's defense. They remember his tenure at MSNBC where his vitriolic
defense of Bill Clinton stopped just short of kissing the former President'
s ass in prime time.

No, they got upset over criticism of Fox News. Not surprising.
Right-wingers love Fox. They consider it their news channel because the
so-called news network cheerleads for anything Republican or conservative.
You can't expect anything less from the news channel run by former Richard
Nixon political flack Roger Ailes.

A favorite mantra of conservatives is that the media is, for the most part,
run by left-wingers who hate America. This is why they flock to right-wing
demagogues like Rush Linmbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservative talk
show hosts who believe news is only fair when presented with a decidedly
partisan point of view.

Right-wing talk radio thrives because conservatives will follow their own
into the jaws of Hell as long as he or she spouts the party line. Limbaugh
touts himself as the top-rated radio talk show in America, which is true,
but when you look beyond the numbers you find that talk radio audiences
represent a really small part of the total population out there.

Most talk radio shows run during the daytime when real people are at work
and audiences consist primarily of listeners who are retired, unemployed or
goofing off when they should be working. An Arbitron study of Limbaugh's
audience found it was mostly over 60, mostly male and mostly retired or
unemployed.

Fox News currently ranks number one among cable news channels but being
number one on cable is like being the top bowler in a town with one alley
and one league. Cable TV news audiences represent less than one-fourth of
the television viewership and, despite a temporary bump from Iraqi war
coverage, cable news ratings have been in a free fall for the last 18
months.

Fox News has a loyal viewer base that is highly partisan and feels the
channel represents their views, says TV researcher Scott Adamson. The
average Fox viewer is a 63-year-old white Republican conservative male
whose religion tends to be fundamentalist Christian.

Conservatives tell me that Rush Limbaugh and FoxNews are so popular because
they reach mainstream America and are popular with the real majority.
But a closer look at ratings show some interesting facts.

For example, the St. Louis Post-Disptach is considered one of the most
liberal newspapers in America and Rush Limbaugh's talk show is the most
popular syndicated show on KMOX-radio in that Mississippi River city.

Yet ratings reports and circulation figures show more people in St. Louis
read the Post-Dispatch than listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch FoxNews
Channel. In fact, Access Hollywood, a mindless entertainment news show, has
higher ratings in St. Louis than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh combined.

Go to any city with a newspaper that conservatives consider leftist or
too liberal and you will find the same thing.

But don't bother presenting these arguments to any of your conservative
friends. I learned long ago that facts, like truth, are too often wasted on
partisans. Facts get in the way of causes and screw up perceptions and no
partisan wants their jaundiced view of the world messed up by the truth.

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[CTRL] A Question for Discerning Minds re: Iraqui populace are hostages story

2003-04-02 Thread RevCOAL
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Before this war started we were assured that coalition troops would be met
by the Iraqui population with candy and flowers...

Instead, we've seen the coalition troops come up against stiff fighting, by
both Iraqui military and paramilitary forces, and also a goodly number of
the Iraqui citizenry...

The spin that the administration has put on this lack of candy and flowers
greeting is that the Iraqui populace is being 'forced' to fight against the
coalition troops by Saddam's troops who, we are repeatedly told, hold the
families of these reluctant fighters 'hostage'...

Now it would seem to me that this argument only holds up so far...it could
perhaps explain a small amount of incidents, but makes no sense when
examined closely when it is used to explain why the MAJORITY of the TOTAL
population is fighting against the coalition...

Namely, just HOW MANY of your loyal, trained, and
committed-to-the-point-of-fanaticism troops do you divert from the primary
task of fighting the invader to instead hold the majority of the populace
hostage, to force a fraction of the populace -- untrained, and ostensibly
enemies of your regime -- to fight for your side?

In other words, say that a city has a population of 20,000; we are told that
the majority of people who live in this city are against Saddam Hussein --
let's say the anti-Saddam number is around 16,000.  Now of that number, the
majority are women, children, and those too elderly or infirm to fight...let
s say the number of noncombantants is around 10,000.  That leaves 6,000 men
who are supposedly fighting against the coalition under duress -- 6000
supposed enemies of Saddam's state who have been given guns by those who we
are told are their enemies...

Just how many of Saddam's loyal and highly-trained troops would be needed to
watch 10,000 hostages?  If we say that 1 soldier is assigned to watch every
5 people, that would mean that it would take 2000 soldiers for the task;
would it be worth it to trade 2000 highly-trained and loyal soldiers for the
half-hearted services of 6000 untrained men who are supposedly committed to
the overthrow of the current regime?  Would you trust giving a gun to
someone who is supposedly committed not only to your overthrow, but to your
death?  How many of your highly-trained and loyal troops would you have to
divert from the primary task of fighting to policing these
enemies-of-the-state that you have just given guns to?

And this example is just one town/city -- multiply the numbers by every
other town/city encountered...

Can you imagine the same line of spin used during WWII?  That we'd have been
told that the reason Allied troops encounted stiff fighting on the beaches
of Normandy was because the Nazis were holding the majority of the French
population hostage, thereby forcing French men to fight for the Nazis?

Why don't we hear about any Iraqui 'resistance movement'?  If there are so
many Iraquis who supposedly would welcome the demise of Saddam, how come we
aren't hearing anything about them?  How come we're not hearing about any
acts of sabotage against Saddam and his troops carried out by all these
Iraquis who supposedly hate him?

This Iraquis are being forced to fight spin only makes sense in a limited
way -- when one is perhaps describing an out-of-the-way hamlet with a
populace of a few hundred or so; it makes no sense when one considers that
the administration is using this story to explain why cities with
populations in the tens of thousands are fighting against the coalition...it
would just take too many of the trained and loyal troops to 'hold the
population hostage' to make such a tactic useful


June


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[CTRL] Just How Many Irreplaceable Antiquities Are We Bombing Into Oblivion?

2003-04-02 Thread RevCOAL
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A subject I haven't heard anything about -- just how many priceless and
irreplaceable antiquities and/or archeological sites have we destroyed in
Iraq?


June


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[CTRL] Baghdad's defences belie death toll fears

2003-04-02 Thread flw
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FINANCIAL TIMES
Baghdad's defences belie death toll fears
By Paul Eedle in Baghdad
Published: April 1 2003 17:28 |
Last Updated: April 1 2003 17:28

The defences of Baghdad do not look much: sandbagged emplacements outside
government offices, trenches in parks and palm groves, ditches of blazing
oil belching out smoke intended to interfere with the US and British
laser-guided bombs. Six-lane motorways ideal for fast-moving armour snake
right into the city.

But if Iraqis fight as hard in Baghdad as they have fought in much smaller
towns in the south such as Umm Qasr and Nasiriya, the Americans and British
risk causing large civilian casualties and taking heavy losses themselves
if and when they attack the capital.

The city of 5m is spread across an area of some 15 miles square, either
side of the snaking Tigris river. It takes half an hour to drive from a
suburb on the outskirts to the centre. Street after street of single and
two-storey dun-coloured houses with walled gardens provide ideal cover for
irregular forces to harass attacking armour.

Yet every time a young man in a leather jacket slips out of a doorway to
fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the soft spot of a passing Abrams tank,
the invaders would risk killing civilians if they shoot back.

The irregulars are already in place. At street corners, outside empty
shops, in slit trenches and sandbagged positions by the side of the road,
knots of men in a mixture of different uniforms and civilian clothes and
armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles wait for the attack. Local people say
the ruling Ba'ath party, which has branches in every neighbourhood, has
promised arms and ammunition to anyone willing to fight.

Regular forces are also prominent, most obviously on guard outside
government compounds. No armour or artillery is on view, but could easily
be out of sight behind the walls of the state complexes, or could be pulled
into the city from positions in the countryside before the allied forces
arrive.

Baghdad is now so heavily militarised that invading forces will find it
difficult to distinguish the civilian from the military, although there are
many obvious government sites separate from the main residential areas.

On the west bank of the Tigris, opposite the old centre, an area two miles
long and two miles wide is almost entirely walled off as government
compounds. Those include a presidential compound where missiles have
already battered a palace with a turquoise dome; a ziggaurat-shaped office
block and several nondescript buildings overlooking the river; the
windowless rectangle of the Council of Ministers building; a ministry's
modernistic tower block with a floodlit statue of Mr Hussein firing a
hunting rifle. Any or all of these complexes may have bunkers and tunnels
underneath.

In the middle of the area, the Rasheed Hotel (motto: More Than A Hotel)
has its own helicopter landing pad with lights and a control tower.

However, residents say Mr Hussein commanded the 1991 Gulf War from a
nondescript villa in one of the inner suburbs. This time it also has to be
imagined that the Iraqi military and security forces, with months to
prepare, have long since dispersed their command centres and arsenals
throughout Baghdad.

It is possible that the attacking forces will avoid a full-frontal assault
and concentrate on hit-and-run raids against senior figures, as the British
are reported to be doing in the southern city of Basra. However, it will be
almost impossible to fight any kind of action in Baghdad without putting
civilians in the line of fire, and without exposing the invading troops to
guerrilla attack.

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Re: [CTRL] So Called Anti American Emails

2003-04-02 Thread Bill Howard
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Damn, now I'll have to change my phone number. The odd request wasn't
mine.
On Tuesday, Apr 1, 2003, at 17:27 US/Pacific, William Shannon wrote:
Yeah, right below your phone number and an odd (and in some
jurisdictions, illegal) request...
Bill.
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[CTRL] [JBirch] The UN is not a failure, it's doing what it was designedf for.. (fwd)

2003-04-02 Thread William Bacon
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I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to
the REPUBLIC for which it stands,  one Nation under God,indivisible,with
liberty and justice for all.

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 it's doing what it was designedf for..

Former top Communist Party member Joseph Z. Kornfeder, in sworn testimony
before Congress in 1955, revealed:

I need not be a member of the United Nations Secretariat to know that
the UN blueprint is a Communist one. I was at the Moscow headquarters
of the world Communist party for nearly three years and was acquainted
with most of the top leaders ... I went to their colleges; I learned
their pattern of operations, and if I see that pattern in effect
anywhere, I can recognize it ...

From the point of view of its master designers meeting at Dubarton Oaks
and Bretton Woods, and which included such masterful agents as Alger
Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Luchlin Currie, and others, the UN was, and is,
not a failure. They and the Kremlin masterminds behind them never
intended the UN as a peace-keeping organization. What they had in mind
was a fancy and colossal Trojan horse ... It's [the UN's] internal setup,
Communist designed, is a pattern for sociological conquest; a pattern
aimed to serve the purpose of Communist penetration of the West. It is
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[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] BARIUM = WE and IRAQ are THE ENEMY

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
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For latest noxious, Chemtrail spraying reports:
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BARIUM = WE and IRAQ are THE ENEMY

-Original Message-
From: World-Action [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 September 2002 14:50
To: [A] STOP CHEMTRAILS
Subject: WHAT BLOODY FOOLS WE ARE!
We're all being poisoned.

Note: I wrote this about two months ago but
just left it in my Draft folder. This call-out is
based on Amy Worthington's good article
in the Idaho Observer, given below mine,
posted just a few months ago.  Michael
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Barium was reportedly used by the U.S.
as a weapon in the Gulf War to make the
enemy weak and ill.

Did you get it?

Try again:
Barium was reportedly used by the U.S.
as a weapon in the Gulf War to make the
enemy weak and ill.

Yes?

You know many, many countries are now being
heavily sprayed by Barium and Aluminium?
So. Do you see what is being said here???

MANY, MANY COUNTRIES ARE BEING
SPRAYED WITH BARIUM TO MAKE THE
INHABITANTS WEAK AND ILL. That's US.

OUR countries are being sprayed with BARIUM
so that WE will become WEAK AND ILL.

I wonder-wonder WHY?
For our health? No, that doesn't figure.
To make us strong? No that doesn't figure.
Oh dear, oh dear. Silly me! Silly, SILLY me!
I just got it !!
IT'S TO MAKE US ALL WEAK AND ILL
IT'S TO MAKE US ALL WEAK AND ILL
IT'S TO MAKE US ALL WEAK AND ILL



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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:03:36 -0700
From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Chemtrail Crisis - An Overview And Update

http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/articles/chemtrails2.htm

The Chemtrail Crisis - An Overview and Update
By Amy Worthington The Idaho Observer
http:www.proliberty.com

It is no secret that America's military-industrial megalith
is secretly altering earth's atmosphere in frightening ways.
Huge numbers of aircraft are now kept aloft to create
clouds with ultra-tiny, ionized metallic particles. HAARP
-generated microwave pulses are continually used to heat
and agitate the ionosphere. Synthetically-manufactured
chem-clouds desiccate the air and very effectively block
the sun.

The principles of this grotesque aerosol project
are spelled out in a number of U.S. patents. In 1974,
persons associated with National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA) obtained patent
US3813875 for using barium to create ion clouds
in the upper atmosphere.

In 1991, Hughes Aircraft Company obtained patent
US5003186, a method for seeding the greenhouse gas
layer with tiny particles which include oxides of metal,
e.g., aluminum oxide. The patent states that one
proposed solution to global warming was to add the
tiny particles to the fuel of jet airliners, so that the particles
would be emitted from the jet engine exhaust while the
airliner was at its cruising altitude.

The 1996 Air Force document titled Weather as
a Force Multiplier, declares, In the United States,
weather-modification will likely become a part of
national security policy with both domestic and
international applications. Our government will
pursue such a policy  By 1998, this policy
became rudely conspicuous.

Blue skies have become a rarity. Demoralized citizens
have become increasingly ill and angered, not only by
the aerosol project itself, but by the arrogance of those
who do whatever they please, the consequences be
damned. Intrepid chemtrail investigator Clifford Carnicom,
despite having his life threatened and his phone continually
tapped, has compiled data showing that the atmosphere
to be radically altered toward the alkaline. This indicates
the abnormal presence of barium salts. Using spectroscopy
and pH tests to prove his hypothesis, Carnicom warned
that his findings have major implications for 

[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] FW: 26 REASONS why '9-11' was 'THE ENEMY WITHIN', by Dr Horowitz

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Subject: 26 REASONS why '9-11' was
'THE ENEMY WITHIN', by Dr Horowitz

PLEASE NETWORK.

Approaching the first anniversary of the biggest
and daftest lie this planet has ever been told: 9-11.
[Hang on though! We've been told quite a few
evil whoppers over the past several decades.
Like Bush saying We're a peaceful people. -
and yet America has had 20 wars since WWII.]
http://www.world-action.co.uk/war.html
http://www.konformist.com/911/war-is-a-racket.htm

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http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/apocalypse/26_reasons.html

26 Reasons Why White Collar Terrorists Are To Blame
for America's New War and the Impending World War III

1) The terrorist attacks were completely predictable
and, in fact, predicted. Forewarnings were issued by
many patriotic and heroic individuals to government
and military officials well in advance of Sept. 11, 2001.
For instance, in August, Drs. Garth Nicolson, Ph.D.,
and his wife Nancy Nicolson, Ph.D., among the world's
most esteemed Mycoplasma researchers and Gulf War
Syndrome investigators, reported to Pentagon officials
that they had confirmed intelligence that on Sept. 11, 2001
a terrorist strike against the Pentagon would be made.
Their sources included individuals in key intelligence
positions, the mob, and one high level African diplomat.
Their information was passed on to the Director of Policy
of the Department of Defense, the Inspector General of
the US Army Medical Corps and the National Security
Council, Dr. Nicolson wrote. Unfortunately, it was
ignored. Likewise, Dr. Leonard Horowitz, the award-
winning author of the prophetically titled book, Death
in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism and Toxic Warfare,
(http://www.tetrahedron.org;
http://www.prophecyandpreparedness.com)
released three months before the attacks on Washington
and New York, correctly predicted such a first strike on
New York. For three years, based on government
documents and intelligence reports, he had been
warning Metropolis residents, It's time to move.

2) On Friday, September 7, Florida Governor, Jeb Bush,
brother to the President, issued an Executive Order in
which members of the Florida National Guard were
activated, for the purpose of training to support law-
enforcement personnel and emergency-management
personnel in the event of civil disturbances or natural
disaster. Perhaps the president and his brother
received Dr. Nicolson's warnings or were the source
of the warnings?

3) Numerous reports have surfaced alleging that Bush
administration, military, and intelligence officials’ close
associates had suddenly, and inexplicably, sold all their
airline stock just days before the terrorist attacks.
The F.B.I. is reportedly investigating these reports
and such “inside traders.”

4) FEMA sent the Urban Search and Rescue Team to
New York City THE NIGHT BEFORE the attacks occurred!
One FEMA official, Mr. Tom Kennedy told Dan Rather on
Sept 11, We're currently one of the first teams that was
deployed to support the City of New York in this disaster.
We arrived on late Monday night [that is, on September 10,
the NIGHT BEFORE] and went right into action on Tuesday
morning.

[BUT strange how the government didn't arm the sole
FOUR figther planes charged with defending the whole
eastern seaboard of the USA - which is the latest cover
story hogwash we've been told. How much is it, again,
the USA spends on the military each year? Excuse me
if I fall about laughing and screaming on the floor, like
someone who can't take anymore of this rubbish.
Michael /World-Action]

5) Osama bin Laden and his band of Terrorists could
not have pulled off the sophisticated 

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* Sarandon 'disturbed' by cancelled appearance

* Lipton Response to Criticism of their Muzzling of Dixie Chicks -
(we respect free speech, but.)

* Michael Moore fesses up to his Oscar day 'mistake' -- going to
Mass first.

* AFTRA In Contract Fight with Clear Channel

==

Sarandon 'disturbed' by cancelled appearance Actress' anti-war views
prompted cancellation by United Way

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP)  Actress Susan Sarandon said she was
disturbed by a charity's decision to cancel her appearance at a
fundraising event because of complaints about her antiwar views.

The United Way of Tampa Bay was to feature the 56-year-old actress
as keynote speaker at an April 11 women's leadership event designed
to inspire volunteerism in the community.

But organizers this week scrapped the $75-a-plate event after the
charity got three dozen complaints about Sarandon's selection.

Robin Carson, chairwoman of the board of directors, said the event
had the potential to become divisive.

The focus of our whole meeting had shifted to whether or not we
were creating a political platform for Susan Sarandon, Carson said
Wednesday afternoon, after going to see President Bush at MacDill
Air Force Base. (*** carson fails to tell everyone how her meeting
with Bush Jr went earlier in the day. I wonder why?
http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2003/03/27/TampaBay/Charity_calls_o
ff _eve.shtml***)

In a statement Friday, Sarandon said that considering the depletion
of federal funds for community programs and the faltering economy,
it is disturbing to me that the United Way is letting partisanship
determine its support base.

Once again, the shortsightedness of the powerful will end up
hurting those in need.

Others disagreed with the decision, too.

Marty Petty, executive vice-president of Times Publishing Co., which
publishes the St. Petersburg Times, resigned as a member of the
United Way board of directors and chair of the 2003 campaign.

This decision is grounded in my lifelong personal and professional
belief that our civic life is made stronger by the expression of all
views, including ones that are controversial, Petty wrote in a
letter to Carson.

Sarandon's brother, Terry Tomalin, outdoors writer at the St.
Petersburg Times, had asked Sarandon to participate six months ago.

Sarandon, who introduced the obituary segment of Sunday's Academy
Awards show, flashed a peace symbol with her fingers while walking
on stage at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, Calif.

She won a best-actress Oscar for 1995's Dead Man Walking.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?GXHC_gx_session_id_=
b5a1d93eb322ed53pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=
Articlecid=1035780135793call_pageid=968332188492col=968705925735

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Lipton Response to Criticism of their Muzzling of Dixie Chicks -

While we respect the right to free speech for all Americans, we
believe it is important for artists such as the Dixie Chicks to
recognize the impact their points of view can have on their fans,
especially in these uncertain times.


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Subject: Reply from Lipton Tea

Dear Consumer,

Thank you for your recent note regarding remarks made by Natalie
Maines of the Dixie Chicks. It is important for us to hear from our
consumers and listen to their concerns.

As you can imagine, we did not expect a political controversy to
arise when Lipton became a sponsor of the Dixie Chicks upcoming Top
of the World concert tour. In this time of national crisis, we
believe it is important for Americans to come together behind the
values of freedom, democracy and tolerance that have made the United
States of America into the country it is today.

We have every reason to 

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By Peter Arnett -- Apr 1 2003


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=
12795678method=fullsiteid=50143

I am still in shock and awe at being fired. There is enormous
sensitivity within the US government to reports coming out from
Baghdad.

They don't want credible news organisations reporting from here
because it presents them with enormous problems.

I reported on the original bombing for NBC and we were half a mile
away from those massive explosions. Now I am really shocked that I
am no longer reporting this story for the US and awed by the fact
that it actually happened.

That overnight my successful NBC reporting career was turned to
ashes. And why?

Because I stated the obvious to Iraqi television; that the US war
timetable has fallen by the wayside.

I have made those comments to television stations around the world
and now I'm making them again in the Daily Mirror.

I'm not angry. I'm not crying. But I'm also awed by this media
phenomenon.

The right-wing media and politicians are looking for any opportunity
to be critical of the reporters who are here, whatever their
nationality. I made the misjudgment which gave them the opportunity
to do so.

I gave an impromptu interview to Iraqi television feeling that after
four months of interviewing hundreds of them it was only
professional courtesy to give them a few comments.

That was my Waterloo - bang!

I have not yet decided what to do, whether to pack my bags and leave
Baghdad or stay on.

I'll decide what to do today, right now I'm chewing on what has
happened to me.

But whatever happens I will never stop reporting on the truth of
this war whether I am in Baghdad or somewhere else in the Middle
East - or even back in Washington.

I was here in 1991 and the bombing is very similar to that conflict
but the reality is very different.

The US and British want to come here, take over the city, upturn the
government and take us through to a new era. The troops are in the
country and fighting there way up here. It creates a very different
atmosphere.

The Ba'ath party, currently led by Saddam Hussein, has been in power
for 34 years. Tariq Aziz told me the US will have to brainwash 25
million Iraqis because these people think exactly the same as Saddam
does.

Maybe he is wrong, maybe not.

For months, Iraqis have said officially and privately: We will
fight the Americans, we will use guerrilla tactics, we will surprise
them.

But the Iraqi opposition has said: This will be a pushover,
everyone wants to rebel against Saddam.

Now the reality is being played out on the battlefield.

We have to watch the reality now and some Iraqis are fighting and
the government does seem very determined. For me to see that and to
be criticised for saying the obvious is unfair.

But it has made me a target for my critics in the States who accuse
me of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

I don't want to give aid and comfort to the enemy - I just want to
be able to tell the truth.

I came to Baghdad with my crew because the Iraqi side needs to be
heard too.

It is clear the original timetable that America would be in Baghdad
by the end of March has fallen by the wayside.

There is clearly debate in the US about this, reinforcements are
being sent in and there are delays.

This doesn't mean it is going badly. Every casualty is a loss but
they have been in limited numbers so far.

Every night and every day I hear the B-52s and the missiles
hammering the defences Baghdad.

Just like in Afghanistan and Vietnam, the US is bringing enormous
firepower to bear which it believes will grind the Iraqis down. I
have seen it before and it has been enormously effective. The US
optimism is justified.

On the other hand, at what cost 

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Subject: Get Ready for the USSA(The United Soviet States of America)
Get Ready for the USSA(The United Soviet States of America)http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Articles/Americans/USSA.htm"Behind the Scenes in the Beltway" is published regularly online at Al Martin Raw, (http://www.almartinraw.com).(March 17) You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security. Do you think he will share his expertise in "security" to prepare US citizens for domestic internal passports under the pretense of fighting the never-ending "War on Terrorism"?CAPPS II is the name of the new program which is technically under the auspices of the US Department of Transporation, but that's only technical and the only reaosn they did that was to use the Transportation Department's budget to buy the computer hardware and software they need.The way it works is you give them your credit card and they slide it thorough like you would in a store and then they hit a button and the monitor reads: CAPPS II, SS CTF. The SS CTF evidently stands for State Security Citizen Threat File. But it has nothing to do with the Department of Transportation. It goes directly to a division, which has been established between the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA and several other federal agencies. This is a new division, referred to as the Office of Internal Security, which is coordinating the effort to establish citizen threat files on every US citizen. It will be a huge database including credit files, medical files, political and religious affiliation, military history, attendance at anti-government rallies,etc.The newsclip didn't point out what information is being accessed.The only thing they'll tell you is they're going to access your credit history, but like the guy giving the interview said they will be accessing a whole lot more. They just don't tell you what it is. When the Department of Homeland Security was asked about it, they wouldn't say but replied that it would defeat the purpose if we told you what it was we were looking for.No announcement will be made to the public about what information exactly is being accessed or exactly how much information or what type of information is going to be included in each citizen's security threat file.What I liked about this segment is that they interviewed General Yevgeni Primakov, who is now a consultant to the Department of Homeland Security along with General Alexander Karpov.Primakov was laughing about it because he's getting paid a big fee to do it. He doesn't care, of course. Primakov speaks beautiful English, as you would expect a former head of the KGB to do. When he was asked what is this CAPPS II program really about, because obviously even "terrorists" could have credit ratings.Primakov said that this is one of the steps now being employed along with NICA and new identity upgrade features which are coming to your driver's license. It is being used to get the people used to new types of documentation and carrying new types of identity cards pursuant to the United States instituting a formal policy of internal passports.And he actually used the words "internal passports."It's like he said and he was pretty knowledgeable. When the NICA (National Identity Card Act) gets passed, the Posse Comitatus Act gets overturned, a few other pieces of legislation yet to be proffered get passed, the White House will have more control over the American people than the Kremlin had over the Russian people when Stalin 

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PayPal charged with breaking Patriot 
Act By Dawn Kawamoto Staff 
Writer, CNET News.com March 31, 2003, 1:22 PM 
PT A U.S. Attorney's office has alleged that PayPal 
violated laws regardingthe processing of online 
gambling payments, and is asking parent companyeBay to 
hand over nine months of the gambling-related earnings in 
settlement. The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District 
of Missouri told eBay thatits online payment service 
violated provisions in the USA Patriot Act between October 2001 and 
July2002, according to eBay's annual report, filed 
Monday with securities regulators. Under theact, it is prohibited 
to transmit funds known to have come from a criminal 
offense, or that areintended to promote or support 
unlawful activities. The agency is seeking to collect 
any earnings that PayPal received fromonline gambling 
merchants during the nine-month period, as well as interest. Last 
year,PayPal received 6 percent of its revenue from 
online gambling, according to its filingwith the Securities 
and Exchange Commission. eBay, 
however, takes issue with the U.S. Attorney's 
allegations. "PayPal acted in the good faith belief 
that its conduct did not violate(the USA Patriot Act), 
and PayPal calculates that the amount of its earnings from 
online gamingactivities was less than asserted in the 
(U.S. Attorney's) letter," the filing states. The San 
Jose, Calif.-based auction company, which received the U.S.Attorney's notice 
on Friday, is reviewing the matter and has not decided 
whether it will paythe requested settlement price, 
said Kevin Pursglove, an eBay spokesman. If a 
settlement is reached, it won't be the first time PayPal has paidup over 
processing online gambling payments. Last August, the 
service reached a settlement withthe attorney general 
for the state of New York, under which it ceased processing payments forNew 
York online gambling merchants and also paid the state 
$200,000 in penalties. eBay, which acquired PayPal in 
October, has halted the practice ofprocessing online 
gambling payments. In its filing, the company says the most 
recentcontroversy could hit the service 
hard. "Any finding of a civil or criminal violation by 
PayPal, or potentiallyany settlement, could also 
endanger PayPal's ability to obtain, maintain or renew money 
transmitterlicenses in jurisdictions where it requires 
such licenses to operate, which wouldmaterially harm 
our business," according to the 
filing. The company is aware that PayPal's business 
could also suffer if futureregulation under the USA 
Patriot Act requires it to revise its process for verifying theidentity of 
its customers. The USA Patriot Act, signed into law in 
2001, gives law enforcement agenciesgreater latitude 
in monitoring Internet usage and sharing information. The 
law is designedto reduce the prospect of terrorist 
attacks. "PayPal's business could suffer if customers 
use its system for illegalor improper purposes, or if 
usage of its system is reduced because of increased 
verificationrequirements," the filing 
states. But Pursglove noted that PayPal already uses a 
rigorous customeridentification system and has a good 
view, internally, of payments that merchants try to processfor illicit or 
illegal activity. The loss of such business would be 
insignificant to eBay'srevenue, he said. He also 
noted that whether eBay settles for the amount the U.S. Attorneyin Missouri 
is seeking, something less or nothing at all, there would 
be no materialaffect on its finances or operations. 
eBay declined to disclose the amount the U.S. Attorneyoffice is 
seeking. Shares of eBay slipped $3.98, or about 4 
percent, to $85.31 in 
Mondaytrading.






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Frontlines
http://www.sf-frontlines.com


"The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy," said Corporal
Ryan Dupre. "I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a
friggin' Iraqi. No, I won't get hold of one. I'll just kill him."

The Times, London, March 31, 2003



Today in the online edition of the conservative daily, The Times , was
published a piece by the correspondent Mark Franchetti in Nasiriya. It was
headlined US Marines turn fire on civilians at the bridge of death which
graphically described a massacre of Iraqi civilians at the hands of US
Marines in the outskirts of the besieged town. And goes on to show us
generally how young Marines are made into the killers of civilians.

It is useful to note that The Times is a strong supporter of the Tory Party
in Britain and has only once endorsed a Labour Party candidate in recent
times: Tony Blair! Because the current Prime Minister was, according to The
Times, the best choice to defend British interests, namely its decaying
imperial needs.

Nobody could accuse The Times of having the slightest hesitation in its
support for the British government or the invasion of Iraq. The Times was
born during the splendor of the British Empire.

Franchetti writes in a piece most likely to be on the front page of
tomorrows edition of the paper:

"...some 15 vehicles, including a minivan and a couple of trucks, blocked
the road. They were riddled with bullet holes. Some had caught fire and
turned into piles of black twisted metal. Others were still burning.

"Amid the wreckage I counted 12 dead civilians, lying in the road or in
Nearby ditches.

"All had been trying to leave this southern town overnight, probably for
fear of being killed by US helicopter attacks and heavy artillery.

"Their mistake had been to flee over a bridge that is crucial to the
coalition's supply lines and to run into a group of shell-shocked young
American marines with orders to shoot anything that moved.

"One man's body was still in flames. It gave out a hissing sound.

"Tucked away in his breast pocket, thick wads of banknotes were turning to
ashes. His savings, perhaps.

"Down the road, a little girl, no older than five and dressed in a pretty
orange and gold dress, lay dead in a ditch next to the body of a man who
may have been her father. Half his head was missing. Nearby, in a battered
old Volga, peppered with ammunition holes, an Iraqi woman perhaps the
girl's mother - was dead, slumped in the back seat.

"A US Abrams tank nicknamed Ghetto Fabulous drove past the bodies.

"...a father, baby girl and boy lay in a shallow grave.

"On the bridge itself a dead Iraqi civilian lay next to the carcass of a
donkey. As I walked away, Lieutenant Matt Martin, whose third child,
Isabella, was born while he was on board ship en route to the Gulf,
appeared beside me.

'Did you see all that?' he asked, his eyes filled with tears. 'Did you see
that little baby girl? I carried her body and buried it as best I could but
I had no time. It really gets to me to see children being killed like this,
but we had no choice.'

They had "no choice?" Every soldier has the choice of refusing to serve or
to open fire against civilians. The ones who did not have any choice, were
the civilians mowed down.

Franchetti added:

"Martin's distress was in contrast to the bitter satisfaction of some of
his fellow marines as they surveyed the scene. 'The Iraqis are sick people
and we are the chemotherapy,' said Corporal Ryan Dupre. 'I am starting to
hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a friggin' Iraqi. No, I won't
get hold of one. I'll just kill him.'

The journalist then described the evolution of these soldiers, from young
arrogant soldiers told that they would be received as "liberators" by their
superiors to become targets of small arms by Iraqi civilians and soldiers,
who inflicted heavy casualties in their ranks and showed courage in
defending their town.

"I was with Alpha company"- continues The Times correspondent, explaining
how they received the news of ambushes of other Marines by armed civilians.

Five wounded soldiers were rescued by our convoy, including one who had
been shot four times. The attackers were believed to be members of the
Fedayeen Saddam, a group of 15,000 fighters under the command of Saddam's
psychopathic son Uday.

"Blown-up tires, a pool of blood, spent ammunition and shards of glass from
the bullet ridden windscreen marked the spot where the ambush had taken
place.

Swiftly, our AAVs (23-ton amphibious assault vehicles) took up defensive
positions. About 100 marines jumped out of their vehicles and took cover in
ditches, pointing their sights at a mud-caked house.

"Was it harboring gunmen? Small groups of marines approached, cautiously,
to search for the enemy.

A dozen terrified civilians, mainly women and children, emerged with their
hands raised.It's just a 

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PRESS RELEASE -- 9/11 CitizensWatch 
4/1/03 
www.911citizenswatch.org
Contact: RI/NY: Kyle Hence 
In 
D.C.: John Judge 212-243-3461 
202-583-5347 
voice mail: 401-847-1963 cell: 401-935-7715 Group Pledges to Monitor 9/11 Government Commission: 

"9/11 CitizensWatch" Says Unanswered Questions Must be Addressed; 
Group Includes Victims’ Family Members and Other 
AmericansNew York -- March 31: The government's 9/11 
National Commission opened today. A new non-partisan group called 9/11 
CitizensWatch presented "unanswered questions" from 9/11. [see page 2 below] It 
says it will work with both the National Commission and independent researchers 
to get to the bottom of the September 11 tragedy. "We honor the victims 
by learning the truth," said Kyle Hence of 9/11 CitizensWatch, "and by learning 
the truth of what happened that day and why, we help ensure that such a tragedy 
never happens again. The fact is, a global community of independent researchers 
has been investigating 9/11 for eighteen months, and is finding a great deal of 
evidence that conflicts with the official story. We welcome the federal 
government in finally joining this historic truth-finding effort, and we plan to 
constructively engage the National Commission and act as a liaison to the 
independent research community." The announcement by CitizensWatch was 
made at a lunchtime press conference Monday in the U.S. Customs House in New 
York City, where the National Commission was holding its first open hearings. 
Independent researcher Allan Wood of the "Complete 9/11 Timeline" research 
project; Andrew Rice, who lost his brother David on September 11; and Catherine 
Austin Fitts, former Assistant Secretary of Housing under the first President 
Bush; spoke at the press conference. CitizensWatch says it will issue periodic 
statements about the Commission’s work and the work of independent researchers, 
and that it supports the formation of a fully independent 9/11 Commission. 
"9/11 CitizensWatch is a hub for the most credible, well-sourced, 
well-documented research on 9/11," explained John Judge, "We will sift through 
the research and bring the strongest to the public. We have a research standard 
of excellence, we will continue to address the unanswered questions, and we hope 
that the National Commission does, as well. We believe it is our collective 
responsibility and obligation as Americans to get to the bottom of what happened 
on Sep. 11, 2001." "What disturbs me," said former Wall St. 
Investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts, "is that in the aftermath of 9/11 the 
DoD was somehow able to avoid the problem of $2.3 trillion in ‘undocumentable 
adjustments.’ Cooked books at the Pentagon compromises our economic and national 
security." Said Ryan Amundson, who lost his brother Craig in the 
terrorist attack on the Pentagon, "I desperately want to be able to trust the 
government, but as long as these questions remain unanswered I will always have 
doubt in my mind." (2) Unanswered Questions from 9/11 
(Presented at 9/11 CitizensWatch Press Conference; Customs House, NYC, 
March 31)1) Why in the months before 9/11 did FBI headquarters 
consistently obstruct field agent investigations of potential terrorists or 
terrorist financiers? 2) Why were many detailed warnings from the 
intelligence services of Britain, Germany, Israel, Egypt, Russia, Italy, and 
other foreign governments ignored? 3) Why were some prominent travelers 
warned not to fly on 9/11? 4) Why in the days immediately before 9/11 
were there massive spikes in the number of "puts" on the stocks of airline and 
insurance companies? 5) Why did the chief of Pakistani 

[CTRL] Noam Chomsky: Iraq is a Trial Run

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
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Iraq is a trial run

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3369sectionID=15

Chomsky interviewed by Frontline by Noam Chomsky and VK Ramachandran;
Frontline India;
April 02, 2003

Noam Chomsky , University Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 
founder
of the modern science of linguistics and political activist, is a powerhouse of anti-
imperialist activism in the United States today. On March 21, a crowded and typical  -
and uniquely Chomskyan  -   day of political protest and scientific academic research, 
he
spoke from his office for half an hour to V. K. Ramachandran on the current attack on
Iraq.

V. K. Ramachandran :Does the present aggression on Iraq represent a continuation of
United States' international policy in recent years or a qualitatively new stage in 
that
policy?

Noam Chomsky : It represents a significantly new phase. It is not without precedent, 
but
significantly new nevertheless.

This should be seen as a trial run. Iraq is seen as an extremely easy and totally
defenceless target. It is assumed, probably correctly, that the society will collapse,
that the soldiers will go in and that the U.S. will be in control, and will establish 
the
regime of its choice and military bases. They will then go on to the harder cases that
will follow. The next case could be the Andean region, it could be Iran, it could be
others.

The trial run is to try and establish what the U.S. calls a new norm in international
relations. The new norm is preventive war (notice that new norms are established only
by the United States). So, for example, when India invaded East Pakistan to terminate
horrendous massacres, it did not establish a new norm of humanitarian intervention,
because India is the wrong country, and besides, the U.S. was strenuously opposed to 
that
action.

This is not pre-emptive war; there is a crucial difference. Pre-emptive war has a
meaning, it means that, for example, if planes are flying across the Atlantic to bomb 
the
United States, the United States is permitted to shoot them down even before they bomb
and may be permitted to attack the air bases from which they came. Pre-emptive war is a
response to ongoing or imminent attack.

The doctrine of preventive war is totally different; it holds that the United States  -
alone, since nobody else has this right  -   has the right to attack any country that 
it
claims to be a potential challenge to it. So if the United States claims, on whatever
grounds, that someone may sometime threaten it, then it can attack them.

The doctrine of preventive war was announced explicitly in the National Strategy Report
last September. It sent shudders around the world, including through the U.S.
establishment, where, I might say, opposition to the war is unusually high. The 
National
Strategy Report said, in effect, that the U.S. will rule the world by force, which is 
the
dimension  -   the only dimension  -   in which it is supreme. Furthermore, it will do 
so
for the indefinite future, because if any potential challenge arises to U.S. 
domination,
the U.S. will destroy it before it becomes a challenge.

This is the first exercise of that doctrine. If it succeeds on these terms, as it
presumably will, because the target is so defenceless, then international lawyers and
Western intellectuals and others will begin to talk about a new norm in international
affairs. It is important to establish such a norm if you expect to rule the world by
force for the foreseeable future.

This is not without precedent, but it is extremely unusual. I shall mention one
precedent, just to show how narrow the spectrum is. In 1963, Dean Acheson, who was a 
much
respected elder statesman and senior Adviser of the Kennedy Administration, gave an
important talk to the American Society of International Law, in which he justified the 
U.
S. attacks against Cuba. The attack by the Kennedy Administration on Cuba was 
large-scale
international terrorism and economic warfare. The timing was interesting  -   it was
right after the Missile Crisis, when the world was very close to a terminal nuclear 
war.
In his speech, Acheson said that no legal issue arises when the United States responds
to challenges to its position, prestige or authority, or words approximating that.

That is also a statement of the Bush doctrine. Although Acheson was an important 
figure,
what he said had not been official government policy in the post-War period. It now
stands as official policy and this is the first illustration of it. It is intended to
provide a precedent for the future.

Such norms are established only when a Western power does something, not when others
do. That is part of the deep racism of Western culture, going back through centuries of
imperialism and so deep that it is unconscious.

So I think this war is an important new step, and is intended to be.

Ramachandran :Is it also a new phase in that the 

[CTRL] Where is the Moral High Ground?

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
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(No war in Iraq - http://pnews.org/)


OBJECTIONS TO THE WAR
 and the FOG OF WAR

The coalition forces have crossed the Tigris River which may just be their
Rubicon.

But for some British soldiers who are objecting to this war they are being
sent home. These stories we do not hear very much about in the U.S. press.
They don't want you to know there are objectors in this war.

   They specifically questioned the killing of innocent civilians, more
   of who are reported to have died in the invasion of Iraq than
   soldiers. The Ministry of Defence says there is no evidence to suggest
   that the men refused to fight. Nevertheless, the three may face court
   martial and up to two years in prison. [The Independent,
   April 2, 2003]

   The soldiers, who include a private and a technician, are from 16 Air
   Assault Brigade, which is engaged in protecting oilfields in Southern
   Iraq. While their protests are obviously embarrassing to the
   Government, some reports suggest that its discomfort will be all the
   greater, since military chiefs are already deeply concerned about
   growing evidence of civilians being killed in fighting by US soldiers
   in the urban areas of the south. [ibid]

IF EVERYONE FOLLOWS, WHO WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS?

There are rumors of carnage from the front that is causing serious
problems for American troops also. The shoot to kill orders are
particularly worrisome and as a result the slaughter of those women and
children the other day who did not stop when ordered to do so. Those who
say they should have stopped do not consider the language difficulties
here and the fear that stopping would have led to their death. They died
anyway.

   US soldiers are panicky, unsure of exactly who the
   enemy is and feeling that they re in a position where they have to
   shoot first and ask questions later. [ibid]

Members of the Reserves and National Guard ordered to prosecute this war
are told they must unflinchingly follow the instructions of their military
commanders and this part-time military will return to civilian life
changed forever. We will be letting into society veterans who have
experienced war and participated in the killing.  Some of them will not be
able to separate their military experience from their civilian experiences
and have been permanently scared. The killings of spouses after the first
Gulf War and subsequent wars is a predictable result of war.

Where is the Moral High Ground?

The moral high ground is not stopping Saddam from persecuting Iraqis
because that excuse is something of an afterthought considering it was
never a consideration before Saddam invaded Kuwait. Kuwait was the excuse.
The reasons have been enumerated and described adequately here before (see
http://pnews.org/ for those articles and links)

Is the moral high ground the saving of Kuwait or the saving of the Iraqi
people?

Kuwait was never a nation in its own rightit was historically part of
Iraq, an area striped away and established as an administrative entity by
British colonialists, an expedient to landlocking and thus controlling the
much larger Iraqi territory and population to the north. [Ward Churchill,
On Gaining the High Ground, an essay in Collaterial Damage, edited by
Cynthia Peters (92)]

Kuwait is undemocratic. George Bush Junior says we are going to bring
democracy to Iraq. Are we going to bring democracy to Kuwait also? Not
likely. The governing of Kuwait is a regime of an emir which is propped
up fro more than 50 years by external neocolonial forces rather than the
internal consent of the governed. AND the oil fields in Kuwait are owned
by a gaggle of transnational oil corporations rather than any Kuwaitis,
even the emir. Yes, there was reason to rescue the oil from Saddam for
those oil companies, the real reason the U.S. went into Kuwait. All the
rest were untruths and blatant lies of both George Bush Senior and George
Bush Junior.

Hank Roth
http://pnews.org/

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[CTRL] (Fwd) 'TORTURE CHAMBER' FOUND

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'TORTURE CHAMBER' FOUND
 http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3-12278787,00.html

A torture chamber used by Saddam Hussein's henchmen has been
discovered by British troops in Iraq, according to reports.


Cells in a police station contained a meat hook attached to a ceiling
and a live cable said to be used to give electric shocks.

Royal Marines found it in a suburb of Basra, reported the Daily
Mirror's Tom Newton Dunn, who is with the troops.

Dozens of Iraqi national ID cards were spread across the Chief of
Police's abandoned large oak desk, he wrote.

Troops captured the Abu Al Khasib suburb after 13 hours of fighting.

The police station was empty when the marines arrived.

One local said: The Ba'ath Party were bad people, they used to hurt
people inside the police station. You say bad words about Saddam, they
take you in there and you never come out.

Everybody also knew not to ask what happen to them there, then they
disappear too.

Newton Dunn wrote everything we saw inside that building yesterday
suggested that it was wasn't really a house of law and order at all,
but used instead to torture possibly hundreds of local civilians.

The police sation was also said to be used by the Mukhabarat - by far
the most infamous of Saddam Hussein's internal security services.




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[CTRL] US newspaper fires photographer over faked Iraq shot

2003-04-02 Thread klewis
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[This is the print version of story
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s823033.htm]

AEST

US newspaper fires photographer over faked Iraq shot

US newspaper The Los Angeles Times has fired a staff
photographer for editing together two photos of a British soldier and
a crowd of people outside the Iraqi city of Basra to make the scene
more dramatic, the newspaper said.

In a front-page editor's note, the paper said a photo that appeared
on Monday's front page by photographer Brian Walski was actually
a digital composition of two photos taken moments apart.

The editor's note said Mr Walski, reached on Tuesday by phone in
southern Iraq, acknowledged combining the shots.

Times policy forbids altering the content of news photographs, the
editor's note said.

Because of the violation, Walski, a Times photographer since 1998,
has been dismissed from the staff.

The paper said that Mr Walski edited the two pictures together to
improve the composition.

The pictures showed a British soldier pointing a rifle at an attentive
crowd in Basra, including a man clutching a child.

Mr Walski, a newspaper photographer since 1980, was previously a
staff photographer at the Albuquerque Journal and The Boston
Herald.

While in Boston, he covered international stories including the Gulf
War, the famine in Somalia, the funeral of Princess Diana and the
conflicts in Northern Ireland and the Indian state of Kashmir.
© 2003 Australian Broadcasting Corporation

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[CTRL] (more) Dueling for Dollars

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=39113
APFN
THE REAL REASON WE ARE AT WAR!
Wed Apr 2 13:13:03 2003
208.152.73.199

THE REAL REASON WE ARE AT WAR!
http://praesentia.us/archives/000227.html

Dollar vs. Euro - Hegemoney.

The Federal Reserve's greatest nightmare is that OPEC will switch its
international transactions from a dollar standard to a euro standard. Iraq
actually made this switch in Nov. 2000 (when the euro was worth around
80 cents), and has actually made off like a bandit considering the dollar's
steady depreciation against the euro.

The real reason the Bush administration wants a puppet government in Iraq
- or more importantly, the reason why the corporate-military-industrial
network conglomerate wants a puppet government in Iraq - is so that it
will revert back to a dollar standard and stay that way. (While also hoping
to veto any wider OPEC momentum for the switch from Iran - which is
seriously considering switching to euros as their oil transaction currency
as of Sept 2002 - and other OPEC members including Saudi Arabia whose
regime appears increasingly weak/ threatened from an internal coup).

This administration is acutely aware of this and in preparation for invading
Iraq we will create a huge and permanent military presence in the Persian
Gulf region, just in case we need to grab Saudi's oil fields as well as Iraqs

Saddam sealed his fate when he decided to switch to the euro in late 2000
(and later converted his $10 billion reserve fund at the U.N. to euros) - at
that point, another manufactured Gulf War become inevitable under Bush
II. Only the most extreme circumstances could possibly stop that now and
I strongly doubt anything can - short of Saddam getting replaced with a
pliant regime.

Big Picture Perspective: Everything else aside from the reserve currency
and the Saudi/Iran oil issues (i.e. domestic political issues and international
criticism) is peripheral and of marginal consequence to this administration.
Further, the dollar-euro threat is powerful enough that they'll rather risk
much of the economic backlash in the short-term to stave off the long-
term dollar crash of an OPEC transaction standard change from dollars to
euros. All of this fits into the broader Great Game that encompasses
Russia, India, China.

The effect of an OPEC switch to the euro would be that oil-consuming
nations would have to flush dollars out of their reserve funds and replace
these with euros. The dollar would crash anywhere from 20-40% in value
and the consequences would be those one could expect from any
currency collapse and massive inflation (think Argentina currency crisis,
for example). You'd have foreign funds stream out of the U.S. stock
markets and dollar denominated assets, there'd surely be a run on the
banks much like the 1930s, the current account deficit would become
unserviceable, the budget deficit would go into default, and so on. Your
basic 3rd world economic crisis scenario.

The United States economy is intimately tied to the dollar's role as reserve
currency. This doesn't mean that the U.S. couldn't function otherwise, but
that the transition would have to be gradual to avoid such dislocations
(and the ultimate result of this would probably be the U.S. and the E.U.
switching roles in the global economy).

The following two recent articles discuss Irans vacillating position about
switching to the euro as their standard currency for oil exports, and this
may help explain Bushs sudden urgency to topple Saddam. In the
aftermath of toppling Saddam it is clear the U.S. will keep a large and
permanent U.S. military force in the Persian Gulf. Indeed, the Bush
administration has no exit strategy in a post-Saddam Iraq, as a permanent
U.S. military force will be needed to maintain order (ie. to protect the
newly installed puppet regime).

Paradoxically, if the war in Iraq goes poorly or becomes prolonged, it is
possible that Iran and other OPEC members may do exactly what Saddam
did, thus creating the very situation this administration is trying to
prevent, an OPEC switch to the euros as their oil transaction currency
standard.

'Economics Drive Iran Euro Oil Plan, Politics Also Key' (August 2002)

'Iran may switch to the euro for crude sale payments' (Sept 2002)


USA intelligence agencies revealed in plot to oust Venezuela's President
(Dec 2002)

Venezuela is the fourth largest producer of oil, and the corporate elites
appear interested in privatizing Venezuelas oil industry as that outcome
would become lucrative to the U.S. based oil conglomerates.

Additionally, the Bush junta may be concerned that Chavezs barter
deals with 12 Latin American countries as well as Cuba are effectively
cutting the U.S. dollar out of the vital oil transaction currency cycle.
Commodities are being traded among these countries in exchange for
Venezuelas oil, and thus dollars are not being used in these barter
agreements. If these unique oil transactions proliferate, 

[CTRL] Los Angeles Times - Editor's Note

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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[CTRL] From gladhand to backhand

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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Posted on Tue, Apr. 01, 2003


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5528914.htm


White House power plays anger Republicans

BY JAMES KUHNHENN
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WASHINGTON - Consumed by waging war, the Bush administration
increasingly is giving the
Republican-controlled Congress the back of its hand, acting as if the
legislative branch were a constitutionally mandated annoyance.

Administration officials abruptly have canceled appearances before
congressional committees and have refused lawmakers' requests for
information.

Now, President Bush wants to sidestep congressional oversight of how he
spends nearly $75 billion that he wants for the Iraqi war and homeland
security.

''Nice try,'' scoffed Rep. Mark Steven Kirk, R-Ill., during a hearing on the
spending plan. ``There are a lot of precedents we don't want to accept
here.''

Since the beginning of his presidency, Bush and his team have worked hard
to reinvigorate the executive branch of government.

Increasingly, however, with the United States fighting wars against terror
and Iraq, Bush is seeking even broader authority to act without answering
to legislative scrutiny. The administration says it needs ''flexibility'' to spend
much of the money -- meaning it wants to be free to spend it any way it
wants without having to ask Congress first.

PUSHING BACK

Congress is beginning to push back.

Legislative committees could put their stamp on how the $75 billion is
spent as early as today.

Republicans and Democrats already have made clear that they intend to
give the president the money he wants, and perhaps more.

But they want to rein in the president's drive for expanded authority.

''I don't know how that flexibility works, but the Congress has always balked
at giving too much flexibility, because it is our responsibility to watch the
purse,'' said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, one of Bush's
staunchest allies.

To many lawmakers, Bush's request for flexibility is only the latest example
of administration disdain, if not contempt, for Congress.

Time and again, Republicans and Democrats say, the Bush administration
has stiff-armed lawmakers or scorned their committees.

One week before U.S. cruise missiles began falling on Baghdad, Pentagon
officials turned down a Senate Foreign Relations Committee's request for
Pentagon officials to testify about reconstruction in postwar Iraq.

Instead, defense officials chose to brief journalists on that subject the
same day. ''No answers!'' fumed Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. ``That does not
encourage a great amount of trust and cooperation.''

Also on the same day, Treasury Undersecretary Peter Fisher abruptly
canceled his scheduled appearance before the Senate Finance Committee,
at which he likely would have faced questions about budget deficits and
the national debt.

CONCERN IN GOP

''If I weren't a Republican, it wouldn't be so embarrassing,'' committee
Chairman Charles Grassley of Iowa said.

Bush's own condescension has irritated members of Congress. Nearly two
weeks before he launched the war on Iraq, Bush referred publicly to
lawmakers as ``the spenders.''

That ''certainly encourages warm feelings,'' Hagel said sarcastically.

It is to be expected that Democrats would complain about treatment by
the Republican White House.

What is noteworthy, however, is that such criticism now comes from many
Republicans in Congress, including some who vote regularly with the
president. By skipping the Foreign Relations Committee hearing, for
example, the administration got crosswise with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.,
the panel's chairman and an influential player on international issues.

''There's a strain of arrogance in all of this,'' said one Republican senator,
on the condition of anonymity. ``They need to do a better job.''

Grover Norquist, a conservative activist with close ties to the White House,
said lawmakers have a point. ``There is a sense that the White House has
to understand that they are co-equal branches of government.''







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[CTRL] Cannon Fodder, Raw Meat, and the War Hawks

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55427-2003Mar30.html
washingtonpost.com

War Hawks Blinded by Hardened Hearts

By Courtland Milloy

Monday, March 31, 2003; Page B01

I think the level of casualties is secondary, American Enterprise Institute
scholar Michael A. Ledeen told the gathering of war hawks. I mean, it may
sound like an odd thing to say, but all the great scholars who have studied
American character have come to the conclusion that we are a warlike
people and that we love war. . . . What we hate is not casualties, but
losing.

Odd, indeed, I thought upon reading Ledeen's remarks in news accounts of
a so-called black coffee briefing held Thursday at the AEI. But, sure
enough, results of various opinion polls published a few days later showed
Americans' support for the war on Iraq actually hardening, even though
most respondents said they believe that there will be a significant number
of additional U.S. military casualties. At this point, dead Iraqi civilians
didn't seem to matter at all.

Ledeen, an adviser to the State Department under President Ronald
Reagan and author of The War Against the Terror Masters and
Tocqueville on American Character, appeared to have his finger on the
pulse of a large group of people -- a group, I might add, whose views
sometimes baffle me.

Even military officials are warning that Americans might soon be
confronting military carnage not seen since the Vietnam War. As of
yesterday, a little more than a week after this supposed cakewalk of a
war had begun, 57 coalition force personnel had been killed, 21 were
missing and seven were being held as prisoners of war.

About 589 Iraqi civilians had been reported killed and 4,500 reported
injured. Among the victims of errant missiles were Iraqi babies. Exactly
where was this upbeat chant to bomb on, as indicated by the polls,
coming from?

We did not choose this war, Ledeen told me. Terrorists have been killing
us for 20 years plus, and this is the first time we've really responded. We
are reluctant to engage in war, but once we start fighting, we fight to
win.

Loser, he said, is a very bad word in America.

Everything in America hinges on success, and we don't have an awful lot of
time for losers, he said by way of explaining the American mind. People
who come to this country tend to believe in rapid advancement. If people
get in the way, we say, 'Get outta my way.' Most Americans have always
been in a great hurry. We believe we can take it with us and that the most
successful people will get the best accommodations in Heaven. We believe
successful people are the chosen people.

And yet, Ledeen's criteria for winning the war on Iraq make losing seem
far more likely. During the briefing at the AEI, he said, If there is not a
democratic government in Iraq in a year or so, we will have failed. At this
rate, however, it appears that a war could still be going on. Ledeen told
me later that he believed American support for the war would drop only if
it becomes clear that we are being badly led or find out that we have
been lied to.

So, keep an eye on who, if anyone, is really in charge of the war, as U.S.
officials continue second-guessing their own military strategy. And be on
the lookout for those weapons of mass destruction -- the reason given for
waging war in the first place. After testing 10 of their best intelligence
leads, U.S. forces have so far uncovered no substantial evidence that such
weapons exist. Not finding any would amount to, say, a credibility-buster
bomb.

[Alexis de] Tocqueville called us warlike, Ledeen said, referring to the
French aristocrat who toured America in 1831. And it's certainly not all
positive. Ask the Indians. Ask the Mexicans. . . . The list goes on and on.

Of course, it's too soon to ask the Iraqis, because, we've been told, they
are still too afraid of Saddam Hussein to speak freely. But some of them
have not been too afraid to question us.

We ask why, why, why? Ahmed Sufian, a physician at a Baghdad hospital,
told a Washington Post reporter after scores of Iraqi civilians were killed or
wounded in a market destroyed by what was believed to be an errant U.S.
missile. Why all this blood? They came to free us? This is freedom?

Maybe someday America's hawks will answer him.

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Sometimes controversial, often provocative, always informative and
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[CTRL] SHOCKING EXPOSE OF SO-CALLED 'PEACE' MOVEMENT

2003-04-02 Thread Flash Gordon
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So the question here is: which posters on this list
are agents (witting or useful idiots) of these
organizations promoting Communism, anarchy,
large-scale urban rioting, financial disruption, and
violent attacks and what is the FBI doing to root them
out, arrest, and prosecute them?

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Anti-war or anti-America?

Today's anti-war movement, while claiming publicly to
advocate for peace, is dominated by organizations
promoting Communism, anarchy, large-scale urban
rioting, financial disruption, and violent attacks on
governmental, corporate, military and media centers in
America, according to the April issue of
Whistleblower, WorldNetDaily's acclaimed monthly print
magazine. The issue is titled Anti-war or
anti-America?

Readers better sit down and take a deep breath before
they read this issue, said Editor and CEO Joseph
Farah. Many dangerous, violent and profoundly
anti-American organizations are using the current war
as cover to try to bring America to its knees. They
hate this country and openly advocate destroying it.
Their cause has nothing to do with opposing war, but
everything to do with opposing America. In some cases,
both their tactics and their goals are not far from
those of the very terrorists we are fighting.

Indeed, some of the major anti-war groups are
intimately connected with terrorist states like North
Korea, as well as terrorist organizations in the
Middle East. Some, like the international A.N.S.W.E.R.
coalition, are closely allied with known communist
organizations.

One prominent group discussed in the April
Whistleblower advocates that activists physically
shut down financial centers which regulate and assist
the functioning of U.S. economy, engage in
large-scale urban rioting so as to cause massive
unrest and even state of emergencies declared in major
cities across the country, and actively target U.S.
military establishments within the United States …
[using] any means necessary to slow down the
functioning of the murdering body.

The purpose of all this mayhem? The U.S. government
will be forced to send U.S. troops into the domestic
arena thereby taking resources and political focus
away from the war, explains the group.

Included in the April issue:

* Mugged by reality, by Joseph Farah, in which he
recounts how anti-war human shields are being
transformed into anti-Saddam zealots

* Has anti-war movement been hijacked? by Sherrie
Gossett, showing how terror alliances and radical
politics have been revealed at the forefront of the
peace movement

* American eco-terrorists declare war by Michelle
Malkin, in which a peace protestor manifesto is
revealed to be eerily similar to the creed of Islamic
militants

* The second front by David Horowitz, who shows how
the anti-war movement is inching precariously close to
terrorism

* Why the left loves Osama and Saddam, a brilliant
analysis by Mideast scholar Daniel Pipes

* Angst over female warriors by Diana Lynne, an
exclusive in-depth report on allegations of social
engineering in the military -- a powerful update on
the role of women in the military, in light of the
taking of female American POWs in Iraq

* Citizenship in an age of terror, by former U.S.
Air Force Academy director of military history Tony
Kern, on how the clash of civilizations will make or
break Americans

* No greater love by Richard Botkin, on why today's
greatest generation has joined the battle

* Smart-weapon wars still scar the old-fashioned way
by Col. David H. Hackworth

* Duty, honor, country – one of the most famous
speeches of all time – by Gen. Douglas MacArthur

* The boys of Pointe du Hoc by President Ronald
Reagan, remembering the sacred gift American soldiers
have given the world

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for whatever reasons oppose the war, said WND
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the exceedingly subversive and violent groups that are
exploiting the controversy over the war to implement
their long-time agenda of crippling this nation. The
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[CTRL] Lessons of Shock and Awe

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030402-102747-7735r
Commentary: Lessons of Shock and Awe

By Thomas Houlahan
From the International Desk
Published 4/2/2003 10:54 AM

WASHINGTON, April 2 (UPI) -- There has been a great deal of official
resistance to the proposition that the
Pentagon's Shock and Awe war plan hasn't worked particularly well. It has
been argued that the strategy has been a success because whatever
setbacks may have occurred, coalition forces are 50 miles from Baghdad
and have lost fewer than 100 dead.

I wish I could be as satisfied with what has been achieved as Pentagon
officials claim to be, but facts, as John Adams said, are stubborn things. In
four days of ground operations in 1991, coalition forces destroyed 40
divisions and took 89,000 prisoners. In 10 days of serious ground operations
in 2003, using better weapons, coalition forces have destroyed one Iraqi
division, have one bottled up in Basra, and they have taken 8,000 prisoners.

Had the Pentagon followed the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force
that served the coalition so well in the last Gulf War, the war would
probably already be over, and fewer U.S. and British servicemen would
have been killed.

The Powell Doctrine was effective because it realistically addressed the
issue of what makes men fight and what makes them stop fighting. The
present Shock and Awe theories (Shock and Awe is a collection of
untested schemes, not a doctrine) have run into problems because they
didn't.

There are four main reasons why soldiers fight. It therefore follows that if
these motivations are undermined, soldiers will be more likely to
surrender.

First, men will fight if they believe that their resistance is accomplishing
something important for their country. This is the main reason that the
Pentagon and Centcom have pounded the resistance is futile theme and
manage to work the phrase Saddam Hussein's regime is finished into
seemingly every media briefing. The problem with the coalition's strategy in
this war is that these statements don't resonate with Iraqi soldiers in the
trenches. Iraqi infantrymen don't watch or listen to Pentagon or Centcom
press briefings.

Attempting to awe soldiers by bombing Baghdad has not worked either.
Soldiers on the front lines probably don't know the extent of the damage
in Baghdad. Even if they did, it is highly unlikely that they would be sitting
in their trenches far from the capital saying: Gee, they're pounding
Baghdad to a pulp. I guess the jig's up and we'd better surrender. There is
not a direct enough connection between what is happening in Baghdad
and their prospects for effective resistance for the bombing to make much
difference to them.

In the first Gulf War, the coalition did not tell Iraqi soldiers that resistance
was futile with rhetoric. It demonstrated that it was futile with
overwhelming ground power. The balance of combat power was so
lopsided in 1991 that Iraqis literally delayed our combat units longer by
surrendering than they did by resisting. It took Coalition combat units
longer to round up and process a battalion of prisoners than it did to blast
their way through a battalion. Under those circumstances, it was obvious
that in resisting, Iraqi soldiers were not accomplishing anything for their
country, and were merely throwing their lives away. As a result, there
were mass surrenders.

The main irony of this war has been that a battle plan specifically designed
to convince the once-defeated Iraqi army that resistance is futile has gone
awry and has made believers out of Saddam's soldiers. There is an old
saying in boxing: Never let a scared fighter get brave. Knock him out early
or he'll start thinking he can win. The cumulative effect of the coalition's
early disappointments has been to provide encouragement to an Iraqi army
that came into the war lacking confidence.

Soldiers will also fight because they don't want to let their comrades
down, or because they don't want to be seen as cowards. Overwhelming
force also works against this motivation. When, an approaching wave of
Abrams tanks makes it clear that resistance would be a waste of time and
lives, troops will begin to surrender. The more troops surrender, the less
guilty each remaining soldier feels about joining the parade.

I mentioned earlier that bombing Baghdad doesn't do much to affect a
soldier's will to resist. It also doesn't do anything to degrade his unit's
cohesion. In the first Gulf War, Iraqi units were forced to spread out to
avoid destruction by air or artillery strikes. The men in those units were
also forced to stay in their holes by those strikes. As a result, Iraqi units
were atomized and unit cohesion was broken. Infantry companies were
reduced to a series of isolated two-man fighting positions. Just as
individuals find strength in numbers, they find weakness in isolation. This
made them more likely to surrender when coalition ground units arrived.

The decision to dispense

[CTRL] Gnats and Lions

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector-

Posted on Wed, Apr. 02, 2003


http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/5540077.htm


Lesson of Napoleon still valid: A gnat can beat the lion

BY RON GROSSMAN
Chicago Tribune

CHICAGO - (KRT) - At the height of Napoleon's power, Europe lay at his
feet. The French emperor
could make and break kings as he pleased. But when he put his brother on
the throne of Spain in 1808, the nation's unhappy peasants responded with
a tactic that utterly baffled Napoleon, perhaps the greatest general in
history.

Small bands of lightly armed Spaniards fell upon French soldiers when and
where least expected, then faded back into the countryside before a
counterattack could be mounted. As a result, Napoleon was compelled to
keep large forces tied down in Spain that he desperately needed
elsewhere when his empire began to crumble.

The lion in the fable tormented to death by a gnat gives a true picture of
the French army, observed a contemporary, the Abbe de Pradt.

The Spanish word for war is guerra, and, in that language, guerrilla is a
band that wages war. The term has been adopted by English to describe
the kind of unconventional, hit-and-run warfare, and those who wage it,
currently bedeviling U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

It is a confounding form of warfare in which traditional military textbooks
go out the window. It can transform the lesser armed into the more
formidable force. Stunning battlefield success can leave the victor the
more vulnerable.

At the beginning of World War II, success was a German monopoly; the
defeats belonged to the Russians.

Josef Stalin's forces were ill-prepared, the Soviet dictator having purged
most of the officer corps in paranoid fear of a military coup. He steadfastly
refused to believe intelligence data that a German attack was imminent.
Accordingly, Adolf Hitler's army quickly drove hundreds of miles into
Russian territory, much as U.S. soldiers and Marines have in Iraq.

---

But that left the Germans with hugely extended lines of supplies that
Russian partisans began to harass - just as Iraq's Fedayeen Saddam are
attacking American supply convoys.

Frederick the Great of Prussia confronted similar difficulties trying to keep
his cavalry supplied in the face of attacks by 18th Century Bohemian
guerrillas.

Every bundle of hay cost blood, Frederick noted afterward.

Military history shows that when a nation finds itself invaded by a more
powerful one, two responses are possible. The invaders can be met in set
battles, in which case the defenders most often go down to defeat. Or,
they can realize that such is a losing strategy - as did Mao Tse-tung, the
Chinese communist leader, while battling Japanese invaders during World
War II.

Mao set down his military philosophy in a few maxims: The enemy
advances, we retreat; the enemy camps, we harass; the enemy tires, we
attack; the enemy retreats, we pursue.

---

T.E. Lawrence, the famed Lawrence of Arabia, used that strategy during
World War I. The British officer worked behind the lines stirring up an Arab
resistance movement to the Turks. It bore postwar fruit in the creation of
Arab states that eventually became independent, among them Iraq.

If we came as an army with banners, Lawrence said, he and the Arab
tribesmen would surely be defeated. Armies were like plants, immobile,
firm-rooted, nourished through long stems to the head. We might be a
vapor, blowing where we listed.

Commanders facing guerrilla resistance often are unprepared by previous
experience to know that winning battles doesn't necessarily end a war.
The English found that when fighting the Welsh in the 12th century,
reports a contemporary chronicler, Gerald of Wales.

Though defeated and put to flight one day, he noted of the Welsh, they
are ready to resume combat on the next, neither dejected by their loss,
nor by their dishonor.

The Pentagon's thinking was that Saddam Hussein's repressive regime would
rob Iraqis of the will to fight.

Yet repression can be trumped by patriotism when a people find
themselves invaded. The Russians had suffered terribly under the Soviet
regime. Yet they set those feelings aside when Stalin dropped the
revolutionary propaganda and called upon them - using religious symbolism
- to defend Mother Russia.

Guerrillas don't win wars by defeating their opponents as conventional
military forces do. They realize their job is to make the other side weary
of a stalemated conflict.

When the Viet Cong mounted their Tet offensive in 1968, they suffered
tremendous casualties. By traditional military calculus, they lost. But they
won the propaganda battle. Increasingly, the U.S. lost its taste for the
Vietnam War and eventually withdrew its forces.

As the American patriot Thomas Paine clearly recognized, when armies
face guerrillas all bets are off. He was convinced that George Washington's
lightly armed soldiers could defeat the British army, even though the
Americans often couldn't stand up to their opponents in open battle. 

[CTRL] War Strains

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-01-bush-cover_x.htm
Strain of Iraq war showing on Bush, those who know him say

By Judy Keen, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON  The public face of President Bush at war is composed and
controlled. On TV and in newspaper photos, he is sturdy and assured,
usually surrounded by military personnel. But those choreographed
glimpses of Bush's commander-in-chief persona don't tell the whole story.
Behind the scenes, aides and friends say, the president's role is more
complicated and his style more emotional.



President Bush lowers his head and is joined by members of the military in
prayer at MacDill Air Force Base last week.

By Pablo Martinez Monsivais, AP

People who know Bush well say the strain of war is palpable. He rarely
jokes with staffers these days and occasionally startles them with sarcastic
putdowns. He's being hard on himself; he gave up sweets just before the
war began. He's frustrated when armchair generals or members of his own
team express doubts about U.S. military strategy. At the same time, some
of his usual supporters are concerned by his insistence on sticking with
the original war plan.

Interviews with a dozen friends, advisers and top aides describe a man who
feels he is being tested. As might be expected from loyal aides, they
portray the president as steady, tough and up to the task, someone whose
usual cheer has shifted to a more serious demeanor. Their observations
yield a rare inside look at how the president functions in a crisis.

Friends say the conflict is consuming Bush's days and weighing heavily on
him. He's got that steely-eyed look, but he is burdened, says a friend who
has spent time with the president since the war began. You can see it in
his eyes and hear it in his voice. I worry about him.

Bush is juggling a lot more than projecting the image of a confident
commander in chief. He's a prosecutor who quizzes military officials about
their backup plans when things go awry on the battlefield. He's a critic
who sees himself as the aggrieved victim of the news media and second-
guessers. He's a cheerleader who encourages others not to lose faith in
the war plan. He's a supervisor who manages the competing views and egos
of top advisers.

The president reads newspapers first thing in the morning, flipping through
some of them while he's still in the White House residence instead of
waiting for clippings assembled by aides. Through the day, he regularly
watches war coverage on the nearest TV, which is in the private dining
room next to the Oval Office. He knows when heavy bombardments of
Baghdad are scheduled and sometimes tunes in to see them.

As he consumes media accounts of the war, Bush has noted criticism
coming even from some people he believes should be his allies. He was
stung last year when Brent Scowcroft, his father's national security
adviser, wrote a newspaper column questioning the necessity and wisdom
of going to war. Similar complaints continue, and some people outside the
administration are pressing current Bush advisers to urge him to retool his
war plan. The president's aides say he's aware of those efforts but
discounts them.

News coverage of the war often irritates him. He's infuriated by reporters
and retired generals who publicly question the tactics of the war plan.
Bush let senior Pentagon officials know that he was peeved when Lt. Gen.
William Wallace, the Army's senior ground commander in Iraq, said last
week that guerrilla fighting, Iraqi resistance and sandstorms have made a
longer war more likely. But Bush has told aides that he wants to hear all
the news from the front  good and bad.

He has a special epithet for members of his own staff who worry aloud. He
calls them hand-wringers. Two days after combat began, he has said
acidly, some people were already asking how the unconditional surrender
talks were going.

'Do you need to see him?'

Bush makes a point of managing the balance of power in his inner circle.
Secretary of State Colin Powell receded from the headlines once the war
began, but Bush keeps him near. The president seeks second opinions
about military strategy in regular private meetings with Powell, who was
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the 1991 Gulf War. There's
another reason Bush keeps Powell close: to signal to the hawks on his
team that he values the secretary of State's more cautious approach to
diplomacy and war.

Bush's schedule still includes meetings on matters unrelated to the war,
many of them on the economy, but the meetings are shorter now. Fewer
aides receive permission from chief of staff Andy Card to see the
president. Do you need to see him or do you want to see him? Card asks
them.

Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says
Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every
day. His history degree from Yale makes him mindful of the importance of
the moment. He knows he's making 

Re: [CTRL] SHOCKING EXPOSE OF SO-CALLED 'PEACE' MOVEMENT

2003-04-02 Thread Jei
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Flash Gordon wrote:

 So the question here is: which posters on this list
 are agents (witting or useful idiots) of these
 organizations promoting Communism, anarchy,
 large-scale urban rioting, financial disruption, and
 violent attacks and what is the FBI doing to root them
 out, arrest, and prosecute them?

FBI hasn't got the balls to arrest George Bush,
so you'll just have to put up with him. :P

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[CTRL] The Oedipal struggle

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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April 2, 2003

Warring Tribes, Here and There

By MAUREEN DOWD
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/opinion/02DOWD.html



ASHINGTON

The president and his war council did not expect so much heavy guerrilla
resistance in Iraq. And they really did not expect so much heavy guerrilla
resistance at home.

But you can't have transformation without provocation.

This was a war designed to change the nature of American foreign policy,
military policy and even the national character  flushing out ambivalence
and embracing absolutism.

As two members of the pre-emptive Bush doctrine's neo-con brain trust,
Bill Kristol and Lawrence Kaplan, argued in a book-length call for battle,
The War Over Iraq: Well, what is wrong with dominance, in the service of
sound principles and high ideals?

So it should not be a surprise that the troubled opening phase of the war
has exacerbated territorial and ideological fissures in the administration
and the Republican Party.

Democrats are muter than mute. But a dozen days of real war in the
desert has turned the usually disciplined Bush crowd into a bunch of
schismatics: there is internecine warfare between the hold out a hand
Bush I team and the back of the hand Bush II team. There's a feud
between Donald Rumsfeld and some of his generals and ex-generals, and
animosity between the Pentagon  where Rummy, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle and Douglas Feith spin schemes for intimidating the world and
remodeling the Middle East  and the State Department. Colin Powell and
his deputies wince as old alliances shatter and the Arab world seethes,
and mutter that there had to be a way to get rid of Saddam without
making everyone on the planet despise America.

The Washington Post reported on Monday that moderate Republicans
were trying to do an intervention with the president to show him that
hawks were giving him bum advice.

The article was clearly referring to the Bush I realpolitik crowd of James
Baker, Brent Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger and Mr. Powell and his
acolytes at State. These pals of Poppy Bush are alarmed that the
Hobbesian Dick Cheney  who has been down in his undisclosed locations
reading books about how war is the natural state of mankind  the
flamboyantly belligerent Rummy and the crusading neo-cons have
mesmerized the president with their macho schemes.

There is a behind-the-scenes effort by former senior Republican
government officials and party leaders to convince President Bush that the
advice he has received from Vice President Cheney, Defense Secretary
Donald H. Rumsfeld and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz . . .
has been wrong and even dangerous to long-term U.S. national interests,
The Post said.

One former senior Republican official noted: The only one who can reach
the president is his father. But it is not timely yet to talk to him. This
raised the odd specter of the president's being dragged off from running a
war and taken to Kennebunkport for a Metternichian outing in the family
cigarette boat. Mr. Scowcroft and Mr. Eagleburger could pin W. down
while Bar steered and Poppy explained the facts of international life.

The Oedipal struggle of the Bushes  a father who was an ambassador to
the U.N. and an envoy to China, a globe-trotting vice president and an
internationalist president, and a son who was a Texas governor with little
knowledge of the world  was bound to be aggravated by an invasion of
Iraq not sanctioned by the U.N.

Here was a son acting to correct his father's mistakes in the first gulf
war, when his father did not think he had made a mistake, but rather a
great contribution to history.

The neo-cons egged on 43 to war in Iraq by writing, as Mr. Kristol and Mr.
Kaplan did, that 41's foreign policy was defective and that Bush senior
had urged Iraqi Shiites and Kurds to revolt and then, afraid that Iraq would
break up, turned a blind eye when they did that after the war and were
slaughtered by Saddam.

When the Iraqi Shiites did not greet U.S. soldiers with flowers and hugs last
week, as the hawks had promised, the stung warriors once more blamed
Bush 41. We bear a certain responsibility for what we didn't do in 1991, a
senior U.S. military commander at Central Command in Qatar told
reporters. We let them down once. We're not going to do it again.

Bush 43 is busy trying to do something his dad thought he'd done. The title
of Bush 41's book: A World Transformed.


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[CTRL] AFI RESEARCH INTELL.BRIEFING

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2517.htm
AFI RESEARCH INTELL.BRIEFING
2nd April 2003 -

Christian-Zionist alliance carves up the Arab lands

For fifty years the Zionists have occupied Palestinian lands and for more
than 35 years the territory of Syria, Jordan and Egypt, while for long
periods it maintained a military occupation of Southern Lebanon. Now the
Arab nations must watch powerlessly as Israel's main supporter buys the
unprincipled little Gulf Sheikdoms, bullies Saudi Arabia and invades Iraq.
Egypt and the North African countries have been sidelined as much by
their own lack of cohesion as by Washington's diplomatic offensive and
both Syria and Iran are paralyzed with fear that they will be next on the
target list. This now appears to be a very widely held view amongst the
Arab masses, and perhaps more significantly there is a resigned
acceptance that Arab Governments are incapable or unwilling to challenge
this new threat to their ancient homelands, traditions and independence.

To the majority of Muslims firmly committed to peace, prosperity and a
better future for their children the thought of endless conflict is
appalling. This said it is also being made quite clear to AFI Research by
many Arab individuals and groups that they can no longer tolerate the
humiliation and dishonour that they feel at their inability to either regain
the lands lost to Israel or defend themselves against present American
expansionist policies. The mood amongst middle ranking military and
security personnel is particularly bitter and is a potential tinderbox for
both their own Governments and Western interests throughout the region.
Many in the business and professional communities rather surprisingly see
little or no benefit to themselves or their nations economies from a
growing US involvement in their affairs. Quite the reverse in fact as a
significant proportion see themselves as mere supplicants looking from
crumbs from their new imperial masters table.

There is a legacy of growing hatred of the US and Britain

Most disturbing however is the ground swell of openly expressed hatred of
the United States and Britain amongst both religious and secular groups for
what is widely perceived as a display of an  arrogant disregard of Arab
sovereignty, history and dignity. This is quite definitely being channelled
into an enormous upsurge in monetary, physical and moral support for
those who still appear capable of fighting back. Terrorist movements,
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interests and security of the West and the United States in particular, will
eventually be seen to have been gravely damaged by this war, but only
once the euphoria and political posturing of victory over a relatively weak
third world country has finally subsided. It is still a historical truth that 'in
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Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

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... and what difference would 
that make Steve? Do you have a need to be controlled Steve?Now if you'd 
have done what i asked and gone and re-read the original post you may have been 
able to come back with an intelligent comment. You may have also gleaned that 
what was claimed about the Beatles came from the psychotic penof 
LaRouche-ism and not me. That was a 'quote' 
from the LaRoucheKamp Steve, that is why it was in quotation marks and 
with thesource of the citation noted.

Whatever attendant politicised 
conspiracy theoriesor mad-hatter Xtian styledemonisation 
blame-people want tolay on the Beatles and their music --music at 
best is an aesthetic appeal and henceits appreciation is an extremely 
subjectiveexperience. 

Some who think that psychedelic drugs 
somehow enhance the musician are deluded. It's a complete illusion and no 
musician who has worked under the influence for a considerable time has or will 
ever reach their peak ability -- their full, latent, gutsy, 
sublime,raw intellectual and physicalcapabilities. 
We call athletes on steroid drugscheats -- Musos on drugs cheat themselves 
and their audience because they do not deliver their peak -- and never can. 


Personally, I like all kinds of music 
simply because I LIKE IT, not because someone else (like pope LaRouche as 
per the post) has determined that it is good, bad or therapeutic for the 
performer or spectator. 

Dave.

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Cheney -Caveat Lector- David, are you our new 
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look at the post again ... this time try reading dimwit...  
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Re: [CTRL] The coalition's other 'enemy'

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
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Arnett has dropped 
quite a few bloopers ... he's obviously under great pressure ... I've 
heardhim on radio a few times and he sounded very tired and fatigued 
(understandably so) ... I think his sacking was an over reaction ... 
guess some Americans who are very pro the war would 
see his commentaryas Iraqi suck-up and enemy lackey-ism ... 


... I'm not sure what merit there 
is in comparison of one mans alleged honours and heroism to another's ... Arnett 
may simply be addicted to the rush of war... and if he is half the man you 
depict ... he'd more likely say "its just a 
job"...

I suppose some get obsessive with their 
job --Arnett once wrote:

  "Then how do you remain 
  objective, or better, intelligent about your copy? That is the test of your 
  professionalism, to be able to observe with as much professional 
  detachment as possible to report a scene with accuracy and clarity. I 
  said it might be called a sense of mission, and in the AP it must take 
  precedence over national patriotism in war, regional propaganda or municipal 
  boostering back home. If you fail in this professional detachment you 
  become an advocate, a worthy enough mission but not journalism. 
  
  
  One example of my attempted detachment: 
  
  I stood one hot noon outside the Saigon 
  market and watched a Buddhist monk in brown robes climb from a taxi and squat 
  on the pavement. He squirted gasoline over himself from a rubber bottle and 
  flicked a cigarette lighter. Here was a political immolation a few feet in 
  front of me. I felt horror and disgust as his body blackened and puffed out 
  like burned pastry. 
  I could have prevented that 
  immolation by rushing at him and kicking the gasoline away. As a 
  human being I wanted to. As a reporter I couldn't. This monk was one of many 
  who committed suicide to dramatize the iniquities of the Diem regime in 
  Saigon. If I had stopped him, the Secret Police who were watching from a 
  distance would have immediately arrested him and carried him off to God knows 
  where. If I had attempted to prevent them doing this I would have propelled 
  myself directly into Vietnamese politics. My role as a reporter would have 
  been destroyed along with my credibility. 
  What did I do? I photographed him 
  burning on the sidewalk."
As far as 'Buddha' quotes go ... ? 


Well I dunno -- some say one mans fat 
cunt is another's mans ecstasy. I lean a little toward the ideathat all 
religions are fucked.

Dave.


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] The coalition's other 
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 4/2/2003 10:35:11 AM, David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
This looks like a classic example of luring the enemy into a false sense 
of security. I heard Sean Hannity on the Faux News today describe 
Arnett as being a propaganda shill, in favour of the Iraqis. Of 
course, neither Sean nor Cal have the cajones to risk their lives by 
being in the centre of a war zone, where Arnett has been on and off for 
forty years. As a virtual hostage, it makes some sense to be a 
little gracious to those who could cause an untimely death at any 
time. Arnett is probably telling everyone what they want to hear 
in such circumstances and, in so doing, may be causing the wannabees a 
little envy if not jealousy (watch out Sean and Cal: deadly 
sins!). Even MSNBC has stated that the remarks might have made no 
difference except they were on Iraqi National TV. But. How 
did WE hear of these remarks? I don't get nor (obviously) watch 
Iraqi TV. So: what's the message here? Extending a further 
challenge to the Iraqis to be a little foolishly emboldened? Did 
Arnett do what he did (with over 40 years of wartime journalistic 
experience) on purpose (and whose)? Or, did he have to free 
himself from some constraints? This whole thing was too pat. 
See:  The firing of Peter Arnett: right-wing straitjacket 
tightens on the US media http://wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/arne-a01.shtml  Arnett gave aid and comfort to our enemy when he 
delivered these gems on Iraqi TV: "Clearly the American war planners 
misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," ...  
 What did they study in school that Arnett skipped? This is 
interesting from the standpoint that Cal puts Arnett into the same group 
as some of the most respected and distinguished newsmen of their 
respective times. One other thing that Cal doesn't address is what 
schools (if any) these three went to (Pulitzer didn't feel good 
reporters needed to be schooled; just good reporters. He has an 
endowment named after him at Columbia that was administered a little 
differently than he might have wanted [see Weaver, *News and the Culture 
of Lying*]). He doesn't tell about Shirer being in Germany prior 
to the outbreak of WW2 reporting on things that were going on. He 
asks the reader to assume a lot of things 

Re: [CTRL] So Called Anti American Emails

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
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Now, now Billy! Be nice! 


And remember thecode, 
"never reveal your sources" -- you old time toilet trawler 
you!

Dave.


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Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
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Nice to see a brain that 
functions at the speed of dark. I guess they don't call you Windgate for 
nothing.

I'm not sure where your 
homosexual fantasies are heading, but this probably isn't the appropriate forum 
to express them on. If you need --either help, counselling or gay 
contacts, it might be best to e-mail me off-line -- can't promise anything, but 
I'llscour my best toget you help --just hold off beaming-up to 
that Iraqi UFO dood!
Dave.- 
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April 02, 2003 1:26 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler,  
Cheney -Caveat Lector- On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:21, 
David Sutherland wrote:  'anal ysis'. I 
think that says everything about your intentions here. Your anal intentis 
alarming. Is your dick also made from depleated uranium? Shall you stuff 
it up Sadam'sa***? You'd love that, wouldn't you? 
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[CTRL] Military rivalry 'causes friendly fire deaths'

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
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Military rivalry 'causes friendly fire 
deaths' 19:00 02 April 03  
Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition  In modern 
warfare, one of the biggest dangers to troops is not knowing who is friend and 
who is foe. In the first days of the US and British invasion of Iraq, an 
American Patriot missile shot down a British Tornado fighter-bomber, while near 
Basra one British Challenger tank destroyed another. Then in a disturbing echo 
of events in the 1991 Gulf War, an American A-10 plane destroyed a British 
armoured vehicle.

At first sight these look like inevitable 
accidents, triggered by technological failures of 21st-century military 
technology. But the truth may lie deeper. Blame for such accidents usually lies 
with the culture of rivalry that pervades the armed services, say safety 
experts. And the way such "friendly fire" incidents are investigated - with the 
emphasis on finding individual culprits rather than any organisational failings 
- means military planners may never get to the root cause.

There is no dispute that high-tech equipment 
can foster friendly fire accidents. The American and British forces in Iraq use 
thermal or radar images to engage the enemy at maximum range in limited 
visibility, says Scott Snook, former head of the Center for Leadership  
Organizations at the West Point military academy in New York. 

When troops cannot see and check the target 
with their own eyes, they are more likely to make a mistake. Similarly, 
electronic identification systems can fail in action: the US Army says a 
software error led the Patriot system to identify the Tornado as an incoming 
missile.

NATO is planning an all-embracing digital 
"combat ID" system for its members' forces, but this will not be fitted until at 
least 2006, according to Britain's Ministry of Defence (MoD). Until then, the 
MoD expects "fratricide" to account for 10 to 15 per cent of British deaths in 
combat.
'Unavoidable 
feature of warfare' 
Even when the system 
is fully operational, few expect it to eliminate casualties completely. "History 
shows that fratricide is an unavoidable feature of warfare," admits the National 
Audit Office, Britain's public spending watchdog, in a 2002 report on the MoD's 
attempts to improve combat identification.

Yet the number of accidents could still be 
reduced - and not just by finding technological solutions. "The deeper issues of 
inter-service rivalry and the difference in cultures between army and air force, 
and even within those, are very rarely addressed," says Snook, now at Harvard 
Business School. "They are often the biggest contributor to friendly 
fire."

As an example, he cites the shooting down of 
two US Army Black Hawk helicopters by two US Air Force F-15s in the No Fly Zone 
over northern Iraq in 1994. The incident, which killed 26 servicemen, occurred 
in part because the jet pilots had no record that the helicopters would be in 
the area. 

When asked why the Black Hawks had not been 
entered on the mission sheet detailing the aircraft in the air that day, the 
USAF serviceperson responsible said: "We don't consider helicopters to be 
aircraft."

The omission is a startling indication of how 
communications can break down, says Snook. "Here's an important word like 
'aircraft' and that word meant something completely different in these different 
cultures."

Systems theory 

"We may not have learned all the lessons of 
friendly fire events," agrees Nancy Leveson, an aerospace safety expert at the 
Massachusetts Institute of Technology. She believes current investigative 
techniques tend to be aimed at assigning blame to a person or group. Instead, an 
inquiry should look at the broader picture.

Leveson has devised a system that can help do 
this, a full description of which has just been accepted for publication in 
Safety Science. Called STAMP, for "systems theory accident modelling and 
processes", the technique is based on systems theory, the idea of developing 
mathematical descriptions of complex systems. It can be applied to a range of 
accidents, from friendly fire incidents to nuclear spills and train 
crashes.

Friendly fire investigations usually search 
for one key event that triggered a fateful sequence. But which event in the 
chain gets blamed can be quite arbitrary. The STAMP technique paints a picture 
of the whole system and the interdependencies within it, says Leveson. That 
allows investigators to spot generic safety failures. 

Some are sceptical. "Where will the process of 
data collection and interpretation stop?" asks Jim Armstrong, a systems expert 
at the University of Newcastle. But Peter Ladkin, a specialist in 
safety-critical systems at the University of Bielefeld in Germany, says: 
"Friendly fire accidents seem suited to a STAMP analysis as most are 
predominantly due to organisational and human factors rather than 
technology."

String of errors 


The official US Department of Defense inquiry 
into the 

[CTRL] Child abuse,soldiers protest,iraqis return,arabs warn u.s.,civilian deaths, d.u.

2003-04-02 Thread Smart News
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Child Maltreatment 2001 "Key findings include the number of children victimized by abuse and neglect, the number of referrals made to child protective services agencies, statistics about specific types of abuse, and the number of children who die as a result of abuse or neglect. The report also includes findings on perpetrators of maltreatment, child protection services agency workloads, and prevention and postinvestigation services." Url also has links to other legal decisions http://www.i-LawPublishing.net/news.htm National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (NCANDS) 2001 - There were 903,000 substantiated cases of maltreatment of children - the majority of which involved cases of neglect. About 1,300 children died of abuse or neglect, a rate of 1.81 children per 100,000 children in the population.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,926135,00.html
Three British soldiers sent home after protesting at civilian deaths Richard Norton-Taylor
3/31/03 "Three British soldiers in Iraq have been ordered home after objecting to the conduct of the war. It is understood they have been sent home for protesting that the war is killing innocent civilians."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0314/fahim.php
Seven Thousand Iraqis Return Home From Jordan, Unsure What Invasion Brings
Saying No to Liberation by Kareem Fahim April 2 - 8, 2003 Karim Al-Mayali says he will return to Basra, Iraq, "to defend my home against the American invaders." AMMAN, JORDAN
"...he will join over 7,000 of his compatriots, according to Jordan's foreign ministry, who have already made the trip from Jordan back to Iraq, thinning out the quarters of this city they have adopted and called homeIn conversations with southern Iraqis, a recurring litany of grievances appears to fuel their desire to return to their families. Some seize upon the symbolic evidence of an unwelcome and growing occupation, like the early incident of American flag raising in Umm Qasr. Others say America's "securing" of the southern oil fields confirms their deepest fears about the coalition's intentions. "What did they do first?" asks Hashem Marmala, a 30-year-old waiter. "They went for the oil. People are starving in the cities, and they were concerned about Rumaila," he says, referring to the southern field that pumps up to 60 percent of Iraq's oil. As the coalition armies await the Iraqi revolt that isn't yet, war strategists will note with interest the apparent about-face by the political dissidents in Jordan who, only weeks ago, couldn't wait for the war that would remove Saddam Hussein's government. While the majority of Iraqis in Jordan are economic migrants, there are a number of political dissidents as well; that these people, many of whom have spent time in Iraqi jails, would return was unthinkable before the war. "

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNewsstoryID=2494108
Arabs Warn U.S. Not to Use Iraq to Pick New Fights Wed April 2, 2003 08:28 AM ET By Sami AboudiCAIRO (Reuters) - Arab commentators and officials warned the United States on Wednesday that its war on Iraq was widening its circle of enemies in the Middle East and urged Washington to refrain from picking new fights.

http://www.jordantimes.com/Wed/news/news1.htm   
Civilian death toll rises in Iraq HILLA (AFP)  Reports of coalition forces killing dozens of Iraqi civilians on Tuesday stoked growing international unease at the US-led war, already high after seven women and children were shot dead at a US checkpoint in central Iraq. Thirty-three people, including women and children, died and 310 were wounded in a coalition bombing on the outskirts of the farming town of Hilla, 80 kilometres south of the capital on Tuesday, local hospital director, Murtada Abbas, said. 


http://www.sundayherald.com/32522
US forces' use of depleted uranium weapons is 'illegal' By Neil Mackay, Investigations Editor "BRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in the war against Iraq and deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction. DU contaminates land, causes ill-health and cancers among the soldiers using the weapons, the armies they target and civilians, leading to birth defects in children."




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[CTRL] Liberation Whether You Want It Or Not

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sart040203.shtml



LIBERATION WHETHER
YOU WANT IT OR NOT
OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

By: SARTRE

Is anyone expecting a parade down the Avenue des Champs Elyses? Liberation for Iraq doesnt include a homeland for the Kurds. Liberation from Saddam means Syria can be next. Liberation for Iraqis is not their option, it is their destiny, their cabarets need to be set free from their repressive culture. Regime change - to elimination of weapons of mass destruction - into Liberation, whatever it takes to rationalize intervention. By now it should be apparent that this Blitzkrieg has stalled, not just in a military sense, but in its entire rationale for invasion.

When has bombing won the hearts and souls of people? Miscalculations that opponents to the Hussein despot, might fear and resist a foreign conqueror more than the tyrant they already know, should come as no surprise. Despite this obvious assessment, the political war planners, set the military into harms way to fulfill their vision of a Pax America for the Middle East region. The war for occupation will be won, but there will be no victory for the infidel. Is our cultural disconnect so complete that Americans are unable to accept that much of the rest of the world operates on a very different mindset than what is taught in our own domestic government schools?

The medias coverage of the rush for Baghdad, has presented a unified theme. The official policy for broadcasting, requires reports to conform to the designed plan. Its easy to condemn a Peter Arnett for an asinine transgression from news correspondence to editorial commentary, but his real sin was to grant an interview with the enemy. Thats all that matters for the general public. A clown like David Asman and that trio of buffoons on Fox and Friends can rant and rave for days and never fear being called on the carpet. Their message is approved!

With his resignation from Tony Blairs cabinet, Robin Cook has stated the following:


We were told the Iraqi army would be so joyful to be attacked that it would not fight. A close colleague of US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld predicted the march to Baghdad would be "a cakewalk".

We were told Saddam's troops would surrender. A few days before the war Vice-President Dick Cheney predicted that the Republican Guard would lay down their weapons.

We were told that the local population would welcome their invaders as liberators. Paul Wolfowitz, No.2 at the Pentagon, promised that our tanks would be greeted "with an explosion of joy.



These sentiments reflect a reality that you are not supposed to hear. Now read what Arnett said in that ill fated interview:

"Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," Arnett told Iraqi TV. "That is why now America is reappraising the battlefield, delaying the war, maybe a week, and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance now they are trying to write another war plan."

Where is the difference or variance in conclusions between the two statements? The red herring surrounding Arnett, that his comments where made in support of the enemy, misses the validity in the appraisal. The intent is always to deflect the essential questions, and substitute a misinformation diversion. The uniform responses in the television media speak to the danger of limited and consolidated ownership. Britain's Daily Mirror did not waste any time and hired the controversial reporter. In his first statement Arnett said: "I report the truth of what is happening in Baghdad and will not apologize for it."

If the case for Liberation of Iraq is so evident, why cant the American public hear the identical evaluation of Cook and Arnett?

The danger that Al-Jazeera might be broadcast and their coverage of the war be presented to the viewer is a risk that the mainstream media dreads. Hardly, can it be concluded that the story you are being presented represents the facts, all the facts. But most Americans are so parochial in their world view that they still trust what their government tells them to be accurate and sincere. If facts have a permanent quality of truth underpinning their validity, why is the conscious of the world press so opposed to this war? The hard questions remain, if the United States doesnt have its way in global affairs, honest opposition must be wrong - or so goes the mainstream message.

The real war that is being waged is one of information, what and who will you believe? When Pravda is more accurate in reporting than the networks, we are in serious danger of losing the battle for world opinion. Domestic polls are no more valid than international ones. Both can be manipulated and be wrong. However, when President Bush proclaims in his latest radio announcement:  The Iraqi regime will be disarmed and removed from power. Iraq will be free," we need to ask, who did the focus group among the Iraqi people? It is time to be honest. The 

[CTRL] Bush Admin To AIPAC - Iraq is next

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5528947.htm



Posted on Tue, Apr. 01, 2003

Halting Iran nuclear effort 'high priority' for U.S. after war
BY TIM JOHNSON
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

WASHINGTON - When war ends in Iraq, the Bush administration will give ''extremely high priority'' to halting a secret nuclear weapons program in neighboring Iran, a senior U.S. diplomat said Monday.

John Bolton, the under secretary of state for arms control, joined national security advisor Condoleezza Rice in warning that the White House sees nuclear weapons programs in Iran and North Korea as imminent threats.

''The estimate we have of how close the Iranians are to production of nuclear weapons grows closer each day,'' said Bolton, a leading hawk within the administration.

Both Bolton and Rice, in separate speeches to the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, suggested that the Bush administration views the toppling of Saddam Hussein in Iraq as an initial response to a series of threats -- though neither suggested that Washington is pondering military action elsewhere.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush tagged Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an ''axis of evil'' that threatens world order, and the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq has unnerved Iran and North Korea.

Rice defended the Bush administration's constant warnings that rogue regimes persist in acquiring more lethal weapons.

'Sometimes people think we're a little bit `the sky is falling, the sky is falling' on these regimes that the president called the axis of evil,'' Rice said. She added, however, that recent evidence shows that ''they certainly belong'' on the list.

U.S. FRUSTRATION

Rice voiced frustration that the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) hasn't been more aggressive with Iran's nuclear program and suggested the need for shaking up the way weapons monitoring programs function.

''Once we have a better atmosphere after Iraq, one of the things we're going to have to look at is how the world gets itself better organized to deal with issues concerning weapons of mass destruction,'' Rice said.

In a separate presentation, Bolton said Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons ''in a very comprehensive and sophisticated way.'' A U.N. team of nuclear inspectors that visited Iran on Feb. 21-22 found centrifuges to enrich uranium, a process critical to making nuclear weapons material, he said.

''The IAEA was stunned by the sophistication of the Iranian effort,'' Bolton said.

Bolton did not forecast when the administration believes Iran may be able to process fissile material for nuclear weapons, acknowledging that such estimates often prove inaccurate.

He said U.S. officials now view Iran and North Korea as equivalent threats -- even amid evidence that North Korea may be only months from production of nuclear material for weapons.

''In the aftermath of Iraq, dealing with the Iranian nuclear weapons program will be of equal importance as dealing with the North Korean nuclear weapons program,'' Bolton said.

MULTIPLE THREATS

Bolton said a series of complicated emerging nuclear weapons threats might present themselves ''simultaneously'' to the White House once the campaign in Iraq is over.

''This is going to be a substantial challenge,'' Bolton said.

Concern about North Korea's nuclear intentions soared in October, when U.S. envoys said Pyongyang admitted a secret nuclear weapons program. North Korea has pulled out of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and appears on the brink of activating a nuclear facility that could generate enough material to make about one nuclear bomb per month, experts say.

North Korea says its nuclear program is defensive and designed to forestall a U.S. attack.

The Bush administration has sought to deal with the crisis through diplomacy, worried that a spark might ignite a war that could kill hundreds of thousands, and perhaps a million, people within days.




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[CTRL] If This Be Treason...let the War Party make the most of it...

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
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April 2, 2003
IF THIS BE TREASON
 then let the War Party make the most of it! Peter Arnett is 'guilty' of real reporting, not sedition 


While the battlefield success of the "coalition" forces may be the subject of a vigorous debate, none can dispute their conquest of the American media. They took out NBC this week, although Iraqi television flickers back after each bombing raid. We can't be sure that Saddam Hussein was killed or seriously injured in that first missile strike, but Peter Arnett, we know for certain, is a goner.

The ritual slaying of a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter on the altar of wartime political correctness is meant as a warning to "mainstream" journalists: this could be you. Either "embed" yourself in the American propaganda machine, or choose exile. 

No one disputes the veracity of what Arnett actually said. It is true, as the veteran war correspondent put it, that 

"Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces."

American military officers in the field are saying the same thing even as I write  but try firing them! And who can dispute the following?:

"My Iraqi friends tell me there is a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain are doing."

We don't need Arnett or the Iraqis to tell us that resistance to the invasion is motivated by nationalism. Invasions invariably provoke resistance, even in the most decadent of nations. But here is what really stuck in the collective craw of the War Party, and demanded  nay, cried out!  for punishment:

"It is clear that within the United States there is growing challenge to President Bush about the conduct of the war and also opposition to the war. So our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."

When a reporter, in the course of developing a story, instead becomes the story, some grand journalistic ethic is said to have been breached. But who made Arnett the story? NBC claims to have been inundated by 8,000 emails in response to Arnett's broadcast  a paltry number, given that it would be no mean feat of technology for a single person to generate that many within hours. Arnett, intones Walter Cronkite, " hangs by a rope of his own weaving," and various and sundry professors have been trotted out  particularly on NBC  to verify that he "crossed the line" between advocate and journalist.

This, from a television network that has U.S. government propaganda designed into its logo!

Beneath each and every talking head or battle scene, in NBC's continuous war coverage, the words "Operation Iraqi Freedom" are vividly emblazoned  as if "freedom" had anything to do with the American imperial project. A loud brouhaha was raised over the military attire of Arnett's interlocutor  even as our own airwaves are filled with strutting generals in full uniform, aiming their pointers at battlefield maps, like rapiers stabbing at the heart of Iraq. 

Is it just me, or is the fiction that we are supposed to be bringing "democracy" and freedom to the benighted peoples of the Middle East somewhat undermined by the ideological cleansing of the American media? The uniformly propagandistic tone of American television coverage resembles a Soviet propaganda film, circa 1936. Fox News, with its all-braying-all-the-time format, was the precursor of this Sovietizing trend, and now MSNBC is taking on the same Leninist style. The race is on between Aaron Brown of CNN and Dan Abrams of MSNBC to see who can parrot the party line most faithfully: the winner so far is Brown, for his David Horowitz-like interrogation of Dan Ellsberg. But Abrams is doing his best to keep up: the other day, he answered the query of a journalism professor as to the provenance of the "Operation Iraqi Freedom" logo  wasn't that "crossing the line," too? Oh no, opined Abrams, because, you see, "that is the actual name of this operation"! 

Jack Shafer, media critic at Slate.com, thinks Arnett should have been fired  but not because of anything he said about the failure of the U.S. war plan, or unexpected Iraqi resistance:

"It was nothing Democratic foes of the war haven't been saying for a week and some Republicans are sharing anonymously today with the Washington Post."

Arrnett's real crime, according to Shafer, is speaking at all to the Iraqis, in an Iraqi venue:

"That Arnett took his star turn on Iraqi state television and spoke seriously to a uniformed member of the Iraqi military indicates that he possesses the credulousness of a child, not the judgment of a seasoned reporter."

At least the Iraqi interviewer had the honesty to wear a military uniform: some of our own "journalists" might as well be wearing U.S. military uniforms, for all the objectivity they bring to the unfolding 

[CTRL] Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraqs nuclear program?

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/033103_who_lied.html
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WHO LIED TO WHOM?
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraqs nuclear program?

Issue of 2003-03-31
Posted 2003-03-24

Last September 24th, as Congress prepared to vote on the resolution authorizing President George W. Bush to wage war in Iraq, a group of senior intelligence officials, including George Tenet, the Director of Central Intelligence, briefed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Iraqs weapons capability. It was an important presentation for the Bush Administration. Some Democrats were publicly questioning the Presidents claim that Iraq still possessed weapons of mass destruction which posed an immediate threat to the United States. Just the day before, former Vice-President Al Gore had sharply criticized the Administration's advocacy of premptive war, calling it a doctrine that would replace "a world in which states consider themselves subject to law" with "the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the President of the United States." A few Democrats were also considering putting an alternative resolution before Congress. 

According to two of those present at the briefing, which was highly classified and took place in the committees secure hearing room, Tenet declared, as he had done before, that a shipment of high-strength aluminum tubes that was intercepted on its way to Iraq had been meant for the construction of centrifuges that could be used to produce enriched uranium. The suitability of the tubes for that purpose had been disputed, but this time the argument that Iraq had a nuclear program under way was buttressed by a new and striking fact: the C.I.A. had recently received intelligence showing that, between 1999 and 2001, Iraq had attempted to buy five hundred tons of uranium oxide from Niger, one of the world's largest producers. The uranium, known as "yellow cake," can be used to make fuel for nuclear reactors; if processed differently, it can also be enriched to make weapons. Five tons can produce enough weapon-grade uranium for a bomb. (When the C.I.A. spokesman William Harlow was asked for comment, he denied that Tenet had briefed the senators on Niger.)

On the same day, in London, Tony Blairs government made public a dossier containing much of the information that the Senate committee was being given in secretthat Iraq had sought to buy "significant quantities of uranium" from an unnamed African country, "despite having no active civil nuclear power programme that could require it." The allegation attracted immediate attention; a headline in the London Guardian declared, "african gangs offer route to uranium."

Two days later, Secretary of State Colin Powell, appearing before a closed hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also cited Iraqs attempt to obtain uranium from Niger as evidence of its persistent nuclear ambitions. The testimony from Tenet and Powell helped to mollify the Democrats, and two weeks later the resolution passed overwhelmingly, giving the President a congressional mandate for a military assault on Iraq.

On December 19th, Washington, for the first time, publicly identified Niger as the alleged seller of the nuclear materials, in a State Department position paper that rhetorically asked, "Why is the Iraqi regime hiding their uranium procurement?" (The charge was denied by both Iraq and Niger.) A former high-level intelligence official told me that the information on Niger was judged serious enough to include in the Presidents Daily Brief, known as the P.D.B., one of the most sensitive intelligence documents in the American system. Its information is supposed to be carefully analyzed, or "scrubbed." Distribution of the two- or three-page early-morning report, which is prepared by the C.I.A., is limited to the President and a few other senior officials. The P.D.B. is not made available, for example, to any members of the Senate or House Intelligence Committees. "I dont think anybody here sees that thing," a State Department analyst told me. "You only know whats in the P.D.B. because it echoespeople talk about it."

President Bush cited the uranium deal, along with the aluminum tubes, in his State of the Union Message, on January 28th, while crediting Britain as the source of the information: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." He commented, "Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide."

Then the story fell apart. On March 7th, Mohamed ElBaradei, the director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, in Vienna, told the U.N. Security Council that the documents involving the Niger-Iraq uranium sale were fakes. "The I.A.E.A. has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents . . . are in fact not 

[CTRL] Neocons in Trouble?

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2003/0303neocon.html



Neocons in Trouble?

By Jim Lobe
March 31, 2003

Editor: John Gershman, Interhemispheric Resource Center (IRC)


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What a difference a week makes. Shortly after the launch of the war in Iraq, Richard Perle, the powerful chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board (DPB) and the leader of the neoconservative hawks who have led the drive to war, reportedly threw a victory party at his house in celebration of the U.S.-led invasion.

One week later, a far less cheerful Perle not only resigned as DPB chairman amid mounting conflict-of-interest questions, but also "slammed down the phone" on an inquiring New York Times reporter who had disclosed his controversial financial relationship with the bankrupt Global Crossings company last week. "Let me just tell you something," the Times quoted an "angry" Perle as saying before his abrupt termination of the conversation. "If I had [resigned], you'd be the last person in the world I'd want to talk to."

Perle's anger--particularly remarkable given his reputation as the "Prince of Darkness" for charm and diplomacy--may only have reflected his personal feelings about having been embarrassed by a possible ethical breach of the kind that is only too typical of influential Washington consultants with extensive government contacts and experience. Or it could signal something much, much more important that may determine the balance of power within the administration of President George W. Bush.

 

On the Defensive

For the first time in memory, the neoconservatives, whose ideology and media and political savvy have fueled the imperial trajectory of the administration since the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, are on the defensive and are taking hits from just about every direction. They are being blamed in particular for the growing public impression that the U.S. military campaign is not going according to plan and may, indeed, be bogging down, thereby exposing U.S. servicemen and women to much greater risks and a much longer war than virtually anyone, especially the neoconservatives who surround Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, had foreseen.

More than any other group, it was the neocons like Perle and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who had predicted that the regime of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein would collapse like a house of cards once the Pentagon's "shock and awe" strategy was on full display. It was they who also predicted that the Iraqi military would surrender in their tens of thousands at the first hint of battle and that common Iraqis, particularly the Shi'ites in the southern part of the country, would greet the U.S. "liberators" with flowers and sweets.

"I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk," argued Kenneth Adelman, a prominent neocon and member of Perle's DPB, in a Washington Post column last February that was cited in both the Post and the Times on Friday, March 28th as typical of the neocons' confidence. "There may be pockets of resistance, but very few Iraqis are going to fight to defend Saddam Hussein," Perle said in one of scores of television appearances at the same time in what appeared to be a concerted and ultimately successful propaganda effort to move the focus of Bush's war on terrorism from Afghanistan and al Qaeda to Hussein and Iraq.

Although Hussein's regime may indeed be as brittle as the neocons have argued, their favored scenarios, on which much of the war's planning was ultimately based, do not appear to be playing out, as even Adelman said to the New York Times when he admitted that he might have been "too glib."

This was confirmed rather thunderously on March 27th by none other than the commander of the Army forces in the Gulf, Lieutenant General William Wallace, who told reporters that indeed the war was likely to take longer than had been predicted by confident Pentagon policymakers. "The enemy we're fighting is a bit different than the one we war-gamed against, because of these paramilitary forces," he said. "We knew they were there, but we did not know how they would fight."

Despite these admissions, the hawks, including Rumsfeld and the neocons like Wolfowitz who surround him, still insist that the war is going well and blame what setbacks and disappointments have taken place on sandstorms and atrocities committed against the civilian population and the Iraqi soldiers who wish to lay down their arms by Hussein's fedayeen militia and armed Ba'athist Party forces. "We probably did underestimate the willingness of this regime to commit war crime," Wolfowitz said. "I don't think we anticipated such a level of (pro-Hussein) execution squads inside Basra," the southern town where U.S. officials anticipated a popular uprising against the government.

Rising Doubts

But these explanations have failed to quash doubts, even 

[CTRL] NINE Members Of Defense Policy Board Tied To Defense Contractors

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.publici.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=513L1=10L2=10L3=0L4=0L5=0



Special Report
Advisors of Influence: Nine Members of the Defense Policy Board Have Ties to Defense Contractors


By Andr Verly and Daniel Politi 
Data by Aron Pilhofer



Of the 30 members of the Defense Policy Board, the government-appointed group that advises the Pentagon, at least nine have ties to companies that have won more than $76 billion in defense contracts in 2001 and 2002. Four members are registered lobbyists, one of whom represents two of the three largest defense contractors.


The boards chairman, Richard Perle, resigned yesterday, March 27, 2003, amid allegations of conflicts of interest for his representation of companies with business before the Defense Department, although he will remain a member of the board. Eight of Perles colleagues on the board have ties to companies with significant contracts from the Pentagon. 

Members of the board disclose their business interests annually to the Pentagon, but the disclosures are not available to the public. The forms are filed with the Standards of Conduct Office which review the filings to make sure they are in compliance with government ethics, Pentagon spokesman Maj. Ted Wadsworth told the Center for Public Integrity. 

The companies with ties to Defense Policy Board members include prominent firms like Boeing, TRW, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin and Booz Allen Hamilton and smaller players like Symantec Corp., Technology Strategies and Alliance Corp., and Polycom Inc. 

Defense companies are awarded contracts for numerous reasons; there is nothing to indicate that serving on the Defense Policy Board confers a decisive advantage to firms with which a member is associated. 

According to its charter, the board was set up in 1985 to provide the Secretary of Defense with independent, informed advice and opinion concerning major matters of defense policy. The members are selected by and report to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policycurrently Douglas Feith, a former Reagan administration official. All members are approved by the Secretary of Defense. The boards quarterly meetingsnormally held over a two-day periodare classified, and each sessions proceedings are summarized for the Defense Secretary. The board does not write reports or vote on issues. Feith, according to the charter, can call additional meetings if required. Notices of the meetings are filed at least 15 days before they are held in the Federal Register. 

ADDITIONAL RESOURCE 
   For additional information, visit the Web site of PBS' "Now With Bill Moyers."

The board, whose list of members reads like a whos who of former high-level government and military officials, focuses on long-term policy issues such as the strategic implications of defense policies and tactical considerations, including what types of weapons the military should develop. 

Michael OHanlon, a military expert at The Brookings Institution, told Time magazine in November 2002 that the board is just another [public relations] shop for Rumsfeld. Former members said that the character of the board changed under Rumsfeld. Previously the board was more bi-partisan; under Rumsfeld, it has become more interested in policy changes. The board has no official role in policy decisions. 

The agendas for the last three meetings, which were obtained by the Center, show a variety of issues were discussed. The Oct. 10-11, 2002 meeting was devoted to intelligence briefings from the Defense Intelligence Agency and other administration officials. One of the first items on the agenda was an ethics brief by the Office of the General Counsel. 

In December 2002, a two-hour intelligence briefing, strategy, North Korea, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency were on the agenda. In February 2003, the topics discussed on the first day included North Korea, Iran and Total Information Awareness, the controversial Pentagon research program that aims to gather and analyze a vast array of information on Americans. As the Center previously reported, research for the program is being conducted by private contractors. 

Richard Perle, who has been a very public advocate of the war in Iraq, resigned the chairmanship of the Defense Policy Board after being criticized in recent weeks because of his involvement in companies that have significant business before the Defense Department. He did not return the Centers phone calls. 

In a March 24 letter, Rep. John Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, asked the Pentagons inspector general to investigate Perles role as a paid adviser to the bankrupt telecommunications company Global Crossing Ltd. The Hamilton, Bermuda-based company sought approval of its sale of overseas subsidiaries from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a government panel that can block sales or mergers that conflict with U.S. national security interests. 

[CTRL] Sex Rules For The House Gym

2003-04-02 Thread flw
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SAFE SEX FOR CONGRESSMEMBERS: A GUIDE

http://www.hillnews.com/news/040203/guide.aspx

HILL NEWS - An explicit guide to safe sex in the House gym that vividly
describes sex acts illegal in 14 states is causing discomfort among some
lawmakers. At least one piece of advice deals with the use of drugs that
are
illegal under federal and state laws. Almost anything you want to do, you
can probably do safely. Be creative, and have a healthy, safer sex life,
the how-to pamphlet says.

Entitled Good Sex is Safer Sex, the publication was paid for by the D.C.
Department of Human Services and sponsored by the Whitman-Walker Clinic
Inc.
It was brought to The Hill's attention by an outraged lawmaker who sought
to
remain anonymous. I was downstairs in the House gym using the phone, and
during a break I just grabbed something to read, the lawmaker said. And I
learned not to use a condom twice, among other things, the offended
representative said. . .

Many lawmakers were unaware of the pamphlet. But when they heard about it,
nearly all who were contacted were united in their opprobrium. . . Among
the
tamer examples, readers are advised not to share vibrators or other sex
toys. . . . The pamphlet includes explicit illustrations of the proper
methods for putting on a condom and engaging in oral sex.

The guide also contains a section addressing alcohol and drugs. If you
shoot drugs or steroids, it advises, never share your works (syringe,
cookers, cotton, etc.). If you have to share your works, squirt bleach
through the needle and syringe three times, then squirt water through it
three times before you use it.
Rep. Michael Oxley (R-Ohio), who chairs the informal House gym committee,
was unaware that the pamphlet is available in the facility until a reporter
brought it to his attention. After briefly glancing at the guide, he
declined to say whether it was appropriate material for the House gym.
It's
probably none of your business anyway, Oxley said.

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[CTRL] (Fwd) [I-S] Grisly truth of police station's real purpose

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Grisly truth of police station's real purpose

http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=386162003


EVERYTHING the marines of 40 Commando saw inside the police station in
Abu al-Qassib suggested that it wasn't really a house of law and order
but had been used instead to torture possibly hundreds of civilians.

Towards the end of the long building's left corridor, we found the first
cell. A damp, 8ft by 4ft hole with no natural or artificial light, and
only a soiled pillow and filthy blanket on the floor.

It was the first of six. Some were bigger, some even smaller, but all
were sealed by bolts from the outside attached to heavy metal or steel
cage doors, and all were disgustingly filthy.

They all stank terribly of old faeces, urine and sweat. Spatters of dark
liquid had left stains down several walls, but they were too dirty and
too old to tell whether the liquid was blood.

In one cell, a meat hook hung from the ceiling. In another, a discarded
thick line of hosepipe sat idle on the floor, with no water taps
anywhere in sight.

Only one cell, the biggest, had in it the roughest approximation of a
toilet - a squat hole in the ground that, judging by the dark, putrid
gunge over-flowing from it, hadn't been flushed in months.

In a side annexe that had been missed, hidden away behind the main
building and with all its old window spaces long ago filled in with
breeze-blocks, was a far larger cell with a single iron bed frame in it.


We moved upstairs to find more offices, most cluttered up with old green
uniforms, half-eaten plates of freshly cooked food, and boxes of
grenades and other heavy ammunition.

One office contained a locked armoury that the marines shot open to
reveal a huge stash of AK47s, rocket-propelled grenades and missile
rounds - far too much weaponry just to police a civilian population.

But the last room was upstairs, again at the end of a corridor, and
initially it left those who saw it totally bewildered.

Unlike every other room on the second floor, it was empty, apart from
two old rubber car tyres and a long electric cable lead attached to the
mains supply, and still live.

The room's likely purpose was explained later by a Royal Marine officer
who had spent some time in the Balkans on UN service. He said: Two
tyres and an electric cable is something we came across a lot in Bosnia.
The interrogator would stand on the tyres while prodding the captive
with the live cable so his own feet were insulated from the high voltage
by the rubber. Primitive, maybe, but a pretty effective and recognised
form of torture in a lot of third-world countries.

Electrocution is not only incredibly painful, but also very
frightening, and the interrogators usually get more out of the shock
effect of it than the actual pain the burns cause.

The officer is usually more than happy to talk on the record. But this
time he didn't want his name used, so that he didn't have to explain
what he had seen to his wife back home.

The one positive outcome of the search was that it produced a pile of
detailed maps showing possible secret paramilitary strongholds - that
could be good for intelligence purposes.

The normally jovial and chatty troop of commandos filed out of the
building and blocked the police station's doors behind them in total
silence.

Very little was said between us on the 30-minute patrol back to base
either. For once, each man seemed to prefer to be alone with his
thoughts.

Corporal Dominic Conway, 28, from Newcastle, who supervised the search,
said later: It was a horrible, gruesome place. They weren't policemen
in there - not like we understand the term.

From a pooled report by Tom Newton Dunn, of the Daily Mirror, with 40
Commando in Abu al-Qassib, southern Iraq.





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[CTRL] Fw: DoD Announces Army Casualty

2003-04-02 Thread Jim Rarey
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Vaccine death?

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NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of
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2, 2003(703)428-0711(public/industry)DOD ANNOUNCES ARMY
CASUALTYThe Department of Defense announced today the identity of
asoldier who died on March 26, 2003, in Rota, Spain. Spc.William
A. Jeffries, 39, was assigned to D Company, 1stBattalion, 152nd Infantry
Regiment, Illinois Army NationalGuard. Jeffries' unit is currently in
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[CTRL] Statement of Mindy Kleinberg to 9/11 Commission - a must read

2003-04-02 Thread Jim Rarey
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http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/witness_kleinberg.htm



  
  




  
  
 

  


  
   

  
  

  

  

  
About the Commission | Hearings | Press | Archive | Contact Us 
First public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks Upon the United States
Statement of Mindy Kleinberg to theNational Commission on
Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesMarch 31, 2003
My name is Mindy Kleinberg. My husband Alan Kleinberg, 39 yrs
old, was killed in the WTC on September 11, 2001. As I testify here
today about the 9/11 attacks, I will begin by saying that my
thoughts are very much with the men and women who are involved in
armed conflict overseas and their families who wait patiently for
them to return.
This war is being fought on two fronts, overseas as well as here
on our shores; this means that we are all soldiers in this fight
against terrorism. As the threat of terrorism mounts here in the
United States, the need to address the failures of September 11 is
more important than ever. It is an essential part of "lessons
learned".
As such, this commission has an extremely important task before
it. I am here today to ask you, the commissioners, to help us
understand how this could have happened; help us understand where
the breakdown was in our nation's defense capabilities.
Where were we on the morning of September 11th?
On the morning of September 11th my three-year-old son, Sam, and
I walked Jacob 10, and Lauren, 7 to the bus stop at about 8:40 a.m.
It was the fourth day of a new school year and you could still feel
everyone's excitement. It was such a beautiful day that Sam and I
literally skipped home oblivious to what was happening in NYC.
At around 8:55 I was confirming play date plans for Sam with a
friend when she said, "I can't believe what I am watching on TV, a
plane has just hit the World Trade Center." For some reason it did
not register with me until a few minutes later when I calmly asked,
"what building did you say?" "Oh that's Alan's building I have to
call you back."
There was no answer when I tried to reach him at the office. By
now my house started filling with people--his mother, my parents,
our sisters and friends. The seriousness of the situation was
beginning to register. We spent the rest of the day calling
hospitals, and the Red Cross and any place else we could think of to
see if we could find him.
I'll never forget thinking all day long, "how am I going to tell
Jacob and Lauren that their father was missing?"
They came home to a house filled with people but no Daddy. How
were they going to be able to wait calmly for his return? What if he
was really hurt? This was their hero, their king their best friend,
their father. The thoughts of that day replay over and over in our
heads always wishing for a different outcome.
We are trying to learn to live with the pain. We will never
forget where we were or how we felt on September 11th.
But where was our government, its agencies, and institutions
prior to and on the morning of September 11th?
The Theory of Luck 
With regard to the 9/11 attacks, it has been said that the
intelligence agencies have to be right 100% of the time and the
terrorists only have to get lucky once. This explanation for the
devastating attacks of September 11th, simple on its face, is wrong
in its value. Because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once:
they were lucky over and over again. Allow me to illustrate.
The SEC
The terrorist's lucky streak began the week before September 11th
with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC. The SEC, in
concert with the United States intelligence agencies, has
sophisticated software programs that are used in "real-time" to
watch both domestic and overseas markets to seek out trends that may
indicate a present or future crime. In the week prior to September
11th both the SEC and U.S. intelligence agencies ignored one major
stock market indicator, one that could have yielded valuable
information with regard to the September 11th attacks.
On the Chicago Board Options Exchange during the 

Re: [CTRL] The Sedition Act of 1798

2003-04-02 Thread Mark McHugh
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Flash Gordon wrote:

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 SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person
 shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause
 or procure to be written, printed, uttered or
 published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or
[snip]

This repugnant law expired in 1801.  I'm surprised you didn't mention the
Espionage Act of 1917 and 1918.

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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Valentin Pavlov, Former Soviet Prime Minister, Dies at 66

2003-04-02 Thread Tenor Love
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Valentin Pavlov, Former Soviet Prime Minister, Dies at 66

April 2, 2003
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS






MOSCOW, April 1 - Valentin S. Pavlov, a former Soviet prime
minister who helped lead the failed hard-line coup against
Mikhail S. Gorbachev in 1991, died on Sunday, Russian news
reports said. He was 66.

Mr. Pavlov began his career as a city financial inspector
and rose slowly through the Soviet economic bureaucracy,
becoming finance minister in 1989 and prime minister in
January 1991.

In August 1991, Mr. Pavlov and other Soviet hard-liners
calling themselves the State Emergency Committee announced
that President Gorbachev was ill, and they kept him
isolated at a Black Sea resort where he had been on
vacation. Looking glum and nervous, eight of them sat
together at a news conference to tell the nation their
committee was in charge.

They moved armored columns into Moscow but stopped short of
using them on thousands of protesters, who rallied behind
Boris N. Yeltsin, then president of the Russian Republic.
After just three days, the coup collapsed, Mr. Gorbachev
was freed, and the plotters were arrested.

Although the hard-liners said they were trying to prevent
the Soviet Union from disintegrating into chaos, the coup
attempt set off its collapse. Four months later, Russia,
213Ukraine and Belarus announced the Soviet Union defunct,
forcing Mr. Gorbachev to resign on Dec. 25.

One coup plotter committed suicide. Mr. Pavlov and the
others were sentenced to prison but were released in 1993
and granted amnesty by Parliament in 1994. Mr. Pavlov went
on to head a commercial bank and later turned to economic
research, taking leadership posts at several academies and
institutes.

Mr. Pavlov remained unrepentant about his role in the coup.
In 2001, he and several other surviving coup plotters, in
an eerie reprise of their last joint appearance together,
defended their actions and praised President Vladimir V.
Putin as trying to achieve the same goals that they had.

The current leadership is making efforts to restore
control over the country, Mr. Pavlov said. Today they are
trying to do what we attempted to do in the Soviet Union in
1991.

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