[CTRL] FW: 9/11 denial is over

2006-09-30 Thread Bill KALIVAS
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Re: [CTRL] definition of a wasteland as in ANWR

2006-09-30 Thread Rongomai Bailey
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I agree with MaryQ.The less development the better.I have personally seen our native rain forests here in New Zealand be harvested and exported. Our rivers are polluted so you can't swim or drink from them. Our west coast beaches will soon be mined for iron (to be shipped to china) and some of the last untouched areas of this country strip mined for coal (to be shipped to china).
Environmental problems are very serious for the people who live near them. Western Civilisation is definitely not civilised. The US doesn't need more oil and pollution, it needs to get rid of it's corrupt fascist government and stop murdering millions of people in other countries. It needs to grow up and take some responsibility.
Rongomai.On 9/30/06, William A. Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Caveat Lector-MAry,Where did you get this disinformation? From your paymastersin viennaAustria?OPEC?Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died inUnited States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations
 visit my web site athttp://www.info-quest.orgVisit my energy page athttp://www.info-quest.org/Energy.htmlCheck out the latest on the anwr drilling project 
http://www.anwr.orgvisit my blog athttp://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.htmlOn Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Mary Q wrote:
 -Caveat Lector- You seem to have no love of anything not directly connected with your idea of beauty or value. To the native people who call the artic home, it is an area of great and immense beauty, with its sky of northern lights and brilliant stars, it's vast open landscape of white in winter and wildflower covered meadows in summer, its vast herds of caribou. To you it is a barren and uncultivated land. So, in your opinion does land have to be cultivated...ie, denuded of natural vegetation, plowed, fertilized and made to grow food crops for man, in order to be considered valuable?Are your domesticated livestock, your cattle and sheep, more valuable and important than the herds of caribou which fulfill the same role? Is all the world only here to serve man's never ending needs and gluttony, until nothing is left at all? You claim it is spiritually and emotionally arid and unsatisfying: I believe that the native people that inhabit these barren wastelands have far more spiritual and emotional depth and satisfaction than you, with your gas guzzling gizmo dependent life style would ever dream o!
 f. -Original Message- From: William A. Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 29, 2006 9:17 AM
 To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CTRL] definition of a wasteland as in ANWR  -Caveat Lector-  From Merriam-Webster online
 wasteland One entry found for wasteland. Main Entry: wasteland Pronunciation: 'wAst-land also -lnd Function: noun 1 : barren or uncultivated land a desert wasteland
 2 : an ugly often devastated or barely inhabitable place or area 3 : something (as a way of life) that is spiritually and emotionally arid and unsatisfying  
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[CTRL] Fwd: The Democrats Are the Good Germans Now

2006-09-30 Thread RoadsEnd
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Begin forwarded message:From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 30, 2006 5:55:18 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: The Democrats Are the "Good" Germans Nowhttp://www.thenation.com/doc/20061016/editors2 The Nation, October 16, 2006 Accessories to Torture  These are grim days for the Constitution. The House and the Senate have passed the catastrophic "compromise" negotiated by senators McCain  Co. to the President's "enemy combatants" bill. The only thing compromised is the rule of law; the bill still strips detainees of the right to appeal, broadens the President's unilateral powers to decide who is an enemy and which interrogation methods violate the Geneva Conventions, and fatally undermines the War Crimes Act. The bill was rushed to passage just days after the Canadian government exonerated Maher Arar, "rendered" by the United States to Syria, imprisoned and tortured for nearly a year. Did John McCain and his GOP colleagues cave? Yes. In particular, they betrayed the courageous military officers and Pentagon lawyers who for months fought for the rule of law. But the refusal of many Democrats to confront this constitutional crisis is more scandalous. For weeks Harry Reid and other Democratic leaders enjoyed the luxury of sitting on their hands while McCain and other Republicans publicly bucked the White House. But when vigorous Democratic opposition might have slowed the bill until a saner, less politicized moment after the election-season recess, a tepid Senator Reid refused to stand in its way: "We want to do this. And we want to do it in compliance with the direction from the Supreme Court. We want to do it in compliance with the Constitution." Never mind that the whole bill is out of compliance. As more than 300 law professors wrote in a letter to Congressional leaders, the enemy-combatants debate is "an urgent test of our nation's constitutional and democratic values." Democrats as well as Republicans have failed the test. =
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