Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Cooper
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Suggestion:  Read the entire first chapter of the book of
Romans.  Not only does the Word
specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who accept
it, thus approve of it as a way of life. 
God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign
authority to establish right morals for right
living, Gods Word is inerrant and
infallible.  Thats enough for me.



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In II Timothy
3:16 we are told all scripture (Old Testament) is breathed of God (comes from
God). Since Jesus is God (John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word and
theWord was with God and the Word was God. - John 1:14 The word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us.)he is the author of the condemnations of
homosexuality in the Old Testament. This should answer your question. If it
doesn't it must be because you don't believe the Bible. If so, why bother
asking for chapter andverse?











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The wrongs you list are perversions of the gospel preached by Jesus

Where exactly did Jesus condemn homosexuality? Be specific. Cite the
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Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Cooper
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August 11, 2003
A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR?
Condi Rice says youre a 'racist' if you dont support the 'liberation' of Iraq

Lying propaganda continues to gush
from the Bush administration, like vomit from a drunk. The latest comes
courtesy of Condoleezza Rice, the President's national security chief and a
woman who, in any other circumstances, would have been out on her
ear, but in this clueless administration maintains a highly visible role. Speaking
before the National Association of Black Journalists, her latest outrage is
accusing critics of the President's war policy of racism.
Invoking the history of the civil rights movement, and the 1963 bombing of a black
church in Birmingham, Alabama, Condi's rendition of Al
Sharpton's race-baiting act was even better than the original:

Knowing what we know about the difficulties of our
own history, let us always be humble in singing freedom's praises. But let our
voice not waver in speaking out on the side of people seeking freedom. And let
us never indulge the condescending voices who allege that some people are not
interested in freedom or aren't ready for freedom's responsibilities. That view
was wrong in 1963 in Birmingham and it is wrong in 2003 in Baghdad.

Forget Niger
uranium, Iraq's nonexistent role in
9/11, and those
missing WMD  this may be the biggest lie of all.

Condi's fanciful fib, weirdly inverting history, must have provoked more than a
few guffaws. In the Condi Rice school of revisionist history, the antiwar
movement of the 1960s did not come out of the civil rights movement, and,
furthermore, the segregationists and their hero, George
Wallace, didn't disdain the protestors as Commie-pinko-hippie-queers. 

The condescending saviors of the Bush administration couldn't wait for the
Iraqi people to seek and win their own freedom. Now they stand guard over a
conquered province, delaying free elections until the Iraqis are
ready. Washington rightly fears a truly democratic election will
sweep radical Islamists into power, inaugurating a Shi'ite Muslim republic
in the southern region of the country and leading to the break-up of Iraq along
ethnic lines. 

American blacks are in no way analogous to Iraqis: after all, the former are,
in spite of George Wallace's heirs and the Africanist rantings of black nationalists,
Americans, while the latter are
foreigners. One wonders why this even has to be pointed out.

Iraqis didn't fight in the American Revolution, but blacks did, as schoolchildren are ceaselessly
reminded. The Iraqis didn't have a Jefferson, or a George Washington: their
Founders were in
the British Foreign Office, ours rose up in rebellion against that Office
and established the first enduring constitutional republic on earth. Not that
this would much impress Ms. Rice, who clearly has it in for the Founders, as
she makes clear in her remarks:

But Democracy is not easy. Our own histories should
remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work
in progress. When the Founding Fathers said We the People, they did
not mean us. Our ancestors were considered three-fifths of a person. America has
made great strides to overcome its birth defects  but the struggle has been
long and the cost has been high.

The lies just keep coming. That the historic compromise reached by the
Constitutional Convention was motivated by contempt for blacks is another of
Ms. Rice's revisionist bon mots. However, this left-wing fairy tale
is not only a myth, long a staple of anti-Americana, it is certainly an odd way
for an ostensibly conservative administration to justify its foreign policy.

Ms. Rice no doubt sincerely believes that the Constitutional Convention was the
moral equivalent of a cross-burning, but history tells a different story. In
the face of a threat by the Southern states to go off on their own, the
convention took no position on the slavery question, neither recognizing it nor
forbidding it. As Garet
Garrett pointed out in The American
Story (1956):

The Constitutional Convention took
refuge in the hopeful position that in time slavery would disappear of itself,
provided it were left to states. In that mood the Convention performed the

Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Cooper
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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Cooper
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Unfortunately for your hardened and rebellious heart towards God you've
already paved your way to spend eternity with the father of lies, Satan.
Clearly you've elected not to accept or believe in God, through God's
gift to all mankind... free will to choose.   Scripture tells us do
not cast pearls (wisdom) to swine for they will trample them under
foot.  God's Word also tells us that the wisdom of man is but folly to
God.  Enough said.

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It is also written in the bible that women are unclean and should cover
their heads.
However, these are words of men. Everything in the Bible cannot be taken
literally.
Sometimes people say stupid stuff and someone writes it down. Does this
mean your God has
ordained this? I hope not. People are too flakey to be spokesmen for
God, not that there
actually is one. I challenge anyone here to prove there is God. You
cannot because it
does not exist.

If the ET who called himself God did not like gays, it's likely because
he wanted 'his
people' to be fruitful and multiply. Notice he did not say be like fruit
and reproduce
thyself. (Sorry. ;-)

Steve

On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:29, Bob Cooper wrote:

 Suggestion:  Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans.  Not
 only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but
it
 also condemns those who accept it, thus approve of it as a way of
 life.  God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the
sovereign
 authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word
is
 inerrant and infallible.  Thats enough for me.


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Re: [CTRL] People Are Forgetting The Act

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Cooper
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Correction:

For thousands of years, the practice of men or women having sex with
one another has been condemned by every major civilization and just
about every religion, including those of the Jewish and Episcopalian
faith.

Jewish faith and Episcopalian faith are erroneously described.
Being Jewish is a race of people unto their own set apart by God.
God did not do this for them to be considered better than other
mankind but for His purpose.  Their faith is Judaism.

Episcopalians are a denomination, albeit strayed off the course of
authentic Chrisianity.

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People Are Forgetting The Act
By Devvy Kidd

August 11, 2003

The 'gay' agenda continues to dominate the mainstream media, saturating
America with propaganda that gays and lesbians are just normal,
ordinary folks who should not be discriminated against because of their
sexual orientation.

We should accept their different form of love and allow children to be
raised by them while they indoctrinate these innocents into their
deathstyle. We should fall all over ourselves to bless their desire to
marry and further destroy that which the Creator created: a human race
where a man and woman marry, period.

This writer finds this massive, ad nauseum push to normalize deviancy
and perversion to be a well thought out assault on humanity itself and a
threat to every innocent child in this country.

Going back in time

For thousands of years, the practice of men or women having sex with one
another has been condemned by every major civilization and just about
every religion, including those of the Jewish and Episcopalian faith.

God's law on this is well articulated in the King James Version of the
Holy Bible. God calls this behavior an abomination and yet, millions of
Americans, including so-called Christians, are falling right into line
by accepting deviancy and filth under the pretext of a mental illness
griping America: political correctness.

What part of God's law don't these people understand?

You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an
abomination. -- Leviticus 18:22:

If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death. --
Leviticus 20:13:

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions: for their
women exchanged the natural use for that which is against nature. And in
the same way also the men abandoned the natural use of the woman and
burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing
indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for
their error.-- Romans 1:26-27:

The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. So do not be
deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards,
nor revelers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the realm of God. -- I
Corinthians 6:9:

Law is not made for a righteous person but for those who are lawless
and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane,
for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and
fornicators and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and
whatever else is contrary to sound (healthy) teaching. -- I Timothy
1:9-10:

Those who practice sodomy and other deviant forms of sexual behavior
will chant to their dying breath that these passages from the KJV of the
Holy Bible are taken out of context and don't really mean what you just
read. That may play well with those who are willing to throw their faith
into the sewer of moral degeneracy, but this writer never will.

Fast forward to the mid-80s

Not long after the first cases of AIDS were diagnosed and this new
killer began to claim precious lives, a subtle form of brainwashing
began to creep into American homes via the stupid tube [television].
This brainwashing took many forms and we can all see the results today
at how clever this tiny number of people were in getting an otherwise
moral nation to toss its moral fabric into the sewer for tolerance.

At the same time, a slow but steady drumbeat echoed across this land
that queers, as they were called back then [and still are today by their
own], were spreading this killer disease through irresponsible and
perverted sexual habits.

In order to counter this bad publicity, subtle new labels emerged.
Sodomites and lesbians started to appear as guests on such programs as
the Today Show and other talkies. These well orchestrated propaganda
events brought Linda and Susie right into your kitchen over breakfast,
decked out in business suits and oozing love. The very thought of the
act these two women committed with each other's bodies was enough to
bring bile immediately to the 

Re: [CTRL] You must see this new WTC 911 video!

2003-08-11 Thread Bob Cooper
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After downloading the video the visual image does not appear in
RealVideo.  What's the problem?

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Hello,

please check this nice movie. Size is only 33 ;) MB.
I'm sure you will really like it.


http://web.naex.sk/wtcufo/illuminati911-divx.avi

Please feel free to spread this divx video worldwide.



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