[CTRL] Where Is Conspiracy Nation!? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- WHERE IS CONSPIRACY NATION!? (CNNS, 05/17/99) -- I can hear it already: "Where is Conspiracy Nation!? I haven't heard anything new from Conspiracy Nation!" The answer to such anticipated alarms is that the editor is moving to a different apartment. That means he had to disconnect the computer to move. That means he had to get a new phone connection. Moving takes time. That's why no new stories. It also may be a good time for the editor to take a vacation from Conspiracy Nation and the Internet. Maybe a short vacation; maybe a long vacation. A good suggestion is to grab whatever articles you want to save from the Conspiracy Nation web site: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Conspiracy Nation began in June 1993. At that time, it was called "Conspiracy for the Day" (a twist on "Thought for the Day"). Conspiracy for the Day was re-named "Conspiracy Nation" around March 1994.It has continued publishing various conspiracy stories since that time. Should I decide to move on (at least for awhile), I want to publicly thank the many good people who have assisted my efforts. If I forget to mention you, I'm sorry. Conspiracy Nation has been a co-operative effort. Without input from friends, colleagues and readers, there'd have been no Conspiracy Nation. The following people have been especially helpful: ** Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts. Sherman has been my main guide and teacher, though at times I've disagreed with him. ** "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) has been another excellent guide. She, like Skolnick, is often way ahead of the parade, with far-sighted vision. ** Kenn Thomas of Steamshovel Press magazine and author of several books has consistently, from the beginning, offered encouragement. ** "Rhea Fortean" (pseudonym) has bounced ideas back and forth and CNation has relied on her keen observations. ** Robert Sterling of the Konformist, who gives hopeful evidence that Generation X are not all dumbed down. He carries the torch to future generations. ** "The Knights" I thank for giving me a good laugh. ** I thank "the anonymous author" for his interesting views on the Lincoln assassination and on the life of Jesse James. ** Thanks to John DiNardo, "spiritual godfather" of CNation. John's pioneering reports on Internet first gave me the idea, in 1993, that, "Hey... I could do something like that!" ** Thanks to "Mr. Mercedes" (pseudonym) for sharing his inside information. ** Thanks to "Roland Rocket" (pseudonym) for sharing his inside information. ** Thanks to Joe C. of Chicago, for sending me videotapes of Sherman Skolnick's "Broadsides" television show. ** Thanks to Joseph Andreucetti, for his insights. ** Thanks to Al Hiddel, of Paranoia magazine, for free copies. ** Thanks to Clayton Douglas of Free American magazine, for free copies. ** Thanks to my late father, who was patient with a rebellious son. ** Thanks to whatever God has kept sending great teachers into my life. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." ** Thanks to readers of CNation. People ask, "What can I do?" Just by reading you're doing more than if you were watching TV. ** Thanks to local independent newscasters Carl Estabrook and Paul Mueth, of "News From Neptune," for their ideas. ** Thanks to any I forgot to mention. After all this melodrama, I may decide to continue after all with CNation. In case I don't, it's been a tremendous learning experience for me. Brian Francis Redman Editor-in-Chief Conspiracy Nation -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
[CTRL] Korisa: What Happened? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- KORISA: WHAT HAPPENED? == (CNNS, 05/16/99) -- Korisa is a village in southwest Kosovo. On Friday, May 14th, NATO attacked Korisa. Something went wrong. At last count, 100 civilians were killed by NATO bombs. "If confirmed, the toll would be the highest number of civilian deaths in a single strike since Nato's air campaign started on March 24," says the South China Morning Post. [1] Since the death count from the Korisa tragedy is expected to climb well above 100, the Korisa bombing now ranks top-of-the-charts for civilian massacres in the Yugoslav war. Something went wrong. That much is known. But beyond that, reports conflict. South China Morning Post cites one survivor who "said Korisa was packed with about 500 refugees who had been hiding in woods for the past 10 days." [2] Many of the dead had been sleeping on their tractors and trailers. [3] NATO and the U.S. don't exactly say that the victims were being used as "human shields" protecting an alleged military target. Instead, they suggest the "human shields" concept."'It certainly looks like this was arranged' as a human shield situation, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon told reporters..." [4] German defense minister Detlef Puhl "told journalists there were 'indications that Milosevic had used the tactic of human shields which had already often been used previously.'" [5] And anyway, asks NATO spokesperson Peter Daniel, "Why were those people not sleeping in their houses?" [6] As if answering Mr. Daniel's question, an article in the Washington Post explains that the Korisa victims had fled their homes to escape danger from the raging war in Kosovo. They figured they'd be safer in the woods. "Survivors of the midnight bombing, many from Korisa, said they had spent months alternately fleeing to the mountains and returning home. After spending the past month or so in the forest, many decided to call it quits. The army was battling the KLA in and around their village and houses were on fire. They decided to leave for Albania." [7] The Washington Post article adds that "Nothing at the scene, nor descriptions from survivors of the attack, provided evidence of a military target." [8] But the U.S. and NATO say the Korisa bombing was conducted against "a legitimate military target." [9] Adding to the confusion is the question of whether the NATO bombs hit their target, missed their target, or were "seduced" away from their target. Or if the tragedy was caused by cluster bombs, which scatter over a wide area, then the NATO bombs could have done both -- hit and missed their target -- at the same time. And also, was there a legitimate target to begin with? Korisa: *What happened*? There are some suggestions that the NATO bombs missed their target (if it was a real target and not due to a "bad map.") The Washington Post headlines today that "In Kosovo, Targets Are Illusive," and goes on to explain how high-flying pilots have trouble interpreting what they see, miles below. [10] Then too, sometimes the "precision bombs" don't work right and go off-course. Like off-course into Bulgaria, for instance. South China Morning Post now reports that "a missile hit Bulgarian territory yesterday 110km northwest of Sofia and 10km east of the border with Yugoslavia but caused no injuries or damage. Two other missiles have fallen in and near Sofia, the capital." [11] Scrambling to deter suspicion that NATO has goofed again, their spokespeople, as well as the U.S. State Department, at first were hinting that the Korisa tragedy was caused by Serb artillery fire. But NATO and the State Department now seem to be backing away from that explanation. The Serbs insist that "the Yugoslav army was not active in the area" and say that foreign reporters can confirm this, based on their interviews with survivors. [12] It is clear that there is already an enormous smoke screen surrounding what actually happened in Korisa. A new term, "carbonated bodies," is being used to describe the scene of horror at Korisa. Reportedly, a journalist with Agence France Presse "counted today, in the mortuary in Prizren, 48 corpses, carbonated and torn by forbidden cluster bombs," and that, among the slain were many children. [13] One of the survivors described how "a great number of carbonated bodies were carried away this morning in sacks." [14] Asks syndicated columnist Arianna Huffington, "A passenger train, a refugee convoy, a friendly neighboring country, a bus crossing a bridge, a hospital, a marketplace, a Chinese embassy. What's next -- a Kosovar in a pear tree?" [15] Huffington also describes dreadful conditions in refugee camps in Albania, where US/NATO "humanitarianism" has
[CTRL] Colleen
-Caveat Lector- Colleen, Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul, Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How can we know the dancer from the dance? - [From "Among School Children," by W.B. Yeats] Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Confusing Signs In NATO War (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CONFUSING SIGNS IN NATO WAR === (CNNS, 05/14/99) -- A network report which aired yesterday foresaw problems for Kosovo refugees. Living in tents, the thousands of emigrants would be okay during the next few months, stated the narrator, but what about when winter comes? The broadcast segment ended with the warning that temperatures would then be well below freezing and the encamped refugees would be in a very uncomfortable situation. But isn't NATO on the verge of winning their war over Kosovo? Isn't victory "just around the corner?" If it's anticipated that Kosovo refugees will still be in their camps come next winter, then apparently the war against Yugoslavia is a long way from being over. "Reading the tea leaves" is one of the few ways of getting past both NATO and Serb propaganda. For example, the report mentioned above on future sufferings, during winter, of Kosovo refugees, contains a hidden message: subtext -- that this war may drag on for awhile. President Bill Clinton, in an Oscar quality performance, yesterday gave an impassioned speech in which he played Romeo to a Juliet audience. As if kneeling with arms extended before his beloved, Clinton wooed listeners with a new story: that 15 Kosovars had been tied up and set on fire by the Serbs. Bill Clinton: he simply seduced a nation. It will be interesting to find out, later on, if the Clinton tale of 15 ignited Kosovars is true. But that fact-finding may be overwhelmed by a future barrage of imaginative reports now that the White House has brought in a PR expert to assist in the selling of the Yugoslav war. Joining the Clinton spin doctors will be Leslie Dach, who "will try to spread the word about interesting stories of individual refugee families, of heroic humanitarian relief work, of Serbian atrocities against Muslims remaining in Kosovo." [1] He, according to ABC News, will apparently work to shore up deteriorating public support in the U.S. for the Yugoslav war. [2] The White House propaganda, like the NATO bombing, is about to intensify. But some point out that the Serbs also use propaganda. That, in itself, has become anti-Serb propaganda, with the USA mass media often hinting that the Serb reports are likely lies. After all, they're by Serbs. As local commentator Carl Estabrook explains, "When U.S. television carries material from Yugoslavian TV, the label 'Government-controlled Serbian Television' is prominently displayed -- but CNN doesn't carry a 'Corporate-controlled American Television' warning." [3] At any rate, reports available at www.serbia-info.com, though partisan to the Serb cause, also routinely cite independent sources in their stories. If the Serbs are inventing their news, then it ought to be easy for pro-NATO propagandists to contact the cited, independent sources utilized, and refute what the Yugoslav press is saying. But this has not happened. In a report issued by this news service on May 9, 1999, we relayed a story from the PBS program, "The McLaughlin Group," in which host John McLaughlin stated that the U.N. commissioner on human rights has now included NATO as a likely subject for charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. [4] The Tanjug News Wire corroborates that Mary Robinson, a human rights official with the United Nations, visited the city of Nis, in Yugoslavia, to eyewitness effects of a NATO cluster bomb attack there. [5] The NATO bombing of Nis, in which civilians were slaughtered when a cluster bomb hit a non-military target, was briefly covered even by USA TV networks. CBS Evening News reported the outrage, and their on-site reporter was visibly shaken by the event. However the subsequent US/NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy pushed the story of the Nis massacre out of the headlines here in the U.S. Tanjug News Wire reports that *ten* cluster bombs were dropped on the residential area of Nis. [6] According to another report by Tanjug, easy to verify or refute, "The international organization Human Rights Watch expressed today its concern that NATO was violating international humanitarian law in Yugoslavia." Reportedly, "Human Rights Watch particularly expresses its concern for destruction of the objects of economy, attacks on Yugoslavia's electrical transformers which primarily serve civilians and the destruction of several of Yugoslavia's television and radio stations, bombarding of the city hospital in Nis on May 7 and Chinese embassy in Belgrade, as well as bombing of civilian vehicles because they were not seen or misidentified." [7] According to another report by Tanjug, easy to verify or refute, John Laughland, a commentator with the London Times newspaper, calls the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,
[CTRL] Strange Sewage Hits Utah
-Caveat Lector- If you've read any of Charles Fort's books, below will be of interest. e.g. in "Book of the Damned" Fort documents cases of strange things falling from the sky, like frogs, fish, over periods of many years. Saturday May 15 2:17 AM ET Sewage Splatters Salt Lake Valley By PAUL FOY Associated Press Writer SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Maybe it's a bird, maybe it's a plane. But it is certainly sewage. And it's no joke in the Salt Lake Valley, where gobs of thick, raw sewage have fallen from the sky a dozen times since April 9, soiling as many as seven houses at once. Neighbors are pointing fingers at aircraft, but the Federal Aviation Administration says commercial jets aren't designed to jettison sewage. A biplane was spotted before one attack, but federal agents said the tip didn't pan out. Sheriff's deputies are studying ``splatter patterns'' and firefighters are hosing down houses. Prosecutors have assigned an investigator to the case and authorities are issuing stern warnings. ``It has never been funny,'' said Mayor Janice Auger of hard-hit suburban Taylorsville. ``The experience is really gross. The smell is terrible. This is a health issue. There's a lot of diseases in fecal matter.'' ``It is feces, but they can't tell if it's animal or human,'' sheriff's Capt. Lee Smith said of the first lab tests on the foul emissions. The initial strikes have spawned crude, ground-launched copycats, and edgy residents are reporting even minor bird droppings on their cars. Tom Perkins says it would take a ``600-pound pigeon with diarrhea'' to produce the coverage that prompted his son to ask, ``Dad, what's all the mud doing on the house?'' It took 500 gallons of water and 30 gallons of bleach to clean the home that is 2,000 feet below a flight path where jets glide at 200 mph toward Salt Lake City International Airport. The FAA has all but ruled out jets as a culprit, saying their toilet tanks can be flushed only from an exterior valve. Any leak would contain a telltale bluish disinfectant, the FAA and aircraft manufacturers say, and none of the splatterings had a trace of blue. The FAA, no stranger to reports of weird phenomena, doesn't know what to make of the mess. ``We never heard anything like this,'' agency spokesman Mitch Barker said, ``nothing like what's been going on in Salt Lake.'' _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tea Leaves Indicate Ground Troops (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "TEA LEAVES" INDICATE GROUND TROOPS === (CNNS, 05/15/99) -- In the previous press release, this news service noted that what we called "reading the tea leaves" was one of the ways to bypass propaganda. By being alert for the subtext in mainstream news reports, good information is sometimes obtained. Yes, the mass media and the government are liars, but they are sloppy liars. They make mistakes. They inadvertantly give clues to the alert. On May 14, 1999, CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) wrote that a network report mentioning "future sufferings, during winter, of Kosovo refugees, contains a hidden message: subtext -- that this war may drag on for awhile." [1] Today, in an Op-Ed column in the New York Times, Anthony Lewis corroborates the CNNS interpretation. Lewis writes, in part, that "Officials in charge of aid to the refugees in camps in Macedonia and Albania have been told to begin thinking about winterizing the camps. The implication must be that there is no confidence of success for the air campaign by September. The refugees are reported to be losing hope of an early return." [2] Is that a light we see at the end of the tunnel? No, it's a freight train, and it's coming right at us. Victory is not just around the corner. Anthony Lewis, writing in the Establishment media outlet, the New York Times, sounds the drumbeat for U.S. ground troops to be inserted into Yugoslavia. "Over the last 10 days the bombing has become far heavier. But there is still profound doubt that air power alone can achieve NATO's objectives." [3] A warning circulating on Internet states that there is "a possibility that NATO is preparing a staged massacre of Albanian refugees to get the excuse to attack Yugoslavia from all sides and in that way defy the decisions made by the US Congress." [4] The message claims that CNN (Cable News Network) has hurriedly dispatched extra personnel and equipment to the region. "CNN has sent three full crews to Albania equipped with satellite broadcasting equipment. Knowing their reputation, they always get sent to the crisis area 'before' anything starts so that they can prepare for the coverage of the 'unexpected' event." [5] In a recent phone conversation with Sherman Skolnick, head of the highly-regarded Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, he indicated that Bill Clinton is under great pressure from the Establishment that he must deliver a victory in the Balkans -- or else. Bill Clinton, contrary to impressions, did not originate the current conflict on his own initiative, no more than any U.S. president ever starts a war on their own. Lurking behind the facade of their gifted actor and frontman, Bill Clinton, are the real rulers of America. And they have ordered Clinton to deliver.Escalated bombing is still not doing the job. Intentional targeting of Serb civilians and of non-military targets has not weakened the Yugoslav will to resist. So Bill Clinton must increase the pressure. As reported by CNNS and elsewhere, the Clinton White House is about to pump up the pro-war propaganda barrage here in the U.S. Now joining the Clinton spin doctors is PR expert Leslie Dach. Dach "will try to spread the word about interesting stories of individual refugee families, of heroic humanitarian relief work, of Serbian atrocities against Muslims remaining in Kosovo." [6] The title of this CNNS report is "'Tea Leaves' Indicate Ground Troops." The indications are that the strategy of exclusive air attack is not succeeding. The indications are that an escalated pro-war propaganda blitz is to be unleashed in the U.S. The indications are that this war will not be resolved any time soon. And the facts are that USA/NATO, since conflict began on March 24th, have continually escalated their attacks. The signposts say that just down the road, in Mission Creep, there are ground troops. --- Notes --- [1] "Confusing Signs In NATO War." CNNS, 5/14/99. [2] "At Home Abroad: On a Wing and a Prayer?" by Anthony Lewis. NYTimes Op-Ed, 5/15/99. [3] Ibid. [4] "A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia." Message forwarded by Rolf Martens. Message apparently originates with "Editions" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and/or MarijanaGlisic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [5] Ibid. [6] "Spin the Battle: White House Hires PR Expert to Handle Kosovo," by Ann Compton. ABCNEWS.com, 5/13/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and
[CTRL] Champaign Warehouse Fire Was Arson? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CHAMPAIGN WAREHOUSE FIRE WAS ARSON? === (CNNS: Champaign, Illinois; 05/13/99) -- A late afternoon fire which destroyed a lumber supply warehouse in this small city may have been due to arson. Authorities and local news media in this heartland community are guardedly allowing that "arson has not been ruled out." Local fire department spokesperson Eddie Bain, after being asked whether arson possibly caused the blaze, reportedly replied, "Any time you have a fire that burns that fast, and fully involves the building, that's always a concern." Further raising suspicions that the conflagration was due to an underworld "torch job" are the facts, as stated in the local newspaper, that the building was leased to a local lumber supply company which had already pretty well vacated the premises. At the time of the suspicious fire, only a few truckloads of supplies yet remained in the building. According to one witness, "the building was pretty much of an eyesore... pretty dilapidated." Thus there is a clear motive on why disreputable characters may have been hired to torch the crumbling warehouse. Why pay big bucks for a demolition crew, when a sudden fire will save such costs and even possibly garner a profit, due to fire insurance benefits? But this possibility is only whispered in this small city, and local news media are unlikely to disrupt the bovine consciousness of Champaign, Illinois. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reports Show Embassy Deliberately Bombed (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
REPORTS SHOW EMBASSY DELIBERATELY BOMBED
(CNNS, 05/11/99) -- It is becoming increasingly clear that Ru
Mills' source was correct when he stated, on May 8, 1999, that
"NATO purposely targeted the Chinese Embassy. It was done to
derail the peace initiative being put forward by the Russians and
the Chinese."
Ru Mills, special correspondent to Conspiracy Nation News Service
(CNNS), uses a pseudonym which covers her true name, a name
well-known in intelligence circles. Her May 8th report, "NATO
Purposely Targeted Chinese Embassy," was published by CNNS on May
9th, under the title "'Ru Mills': Embassy Hit On Purpose" and is
available in our archives. (See below for URL.)
Reports now coming in from other sources tend to confirm that the
bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was not an accident.
A story from Itar-Tass and reported on by CNNS on May 9th,
detailed how the USA sometimes operates independently from NATO
leadership in the current Yugoslav conflict. Basing their
information, in part, on a report in the London Telegraph
newspaper, Itar-Tass stated that U.S. B-2 bombers which
demolished the Chinese embassy in Belgrade may indicate a "war
within a war," where the U.S., for covert reasons of its own,
sometimes operates independently of NATO. (See, "Avalanche Of
New Data On Balkans War," CNNS, 5/9/99.)
The May 9th report by Itar-Tass ("US bombers target China embassy
in Belgrade for strikes"), also pointed out "that the bombing of
the [Chinese embassy] was conducted by a special force of the
U.S. strategic aviation, which is not subordinated to the NATO
command and which flew from the American territory..."
Sun Yuxi, a spokesperson for the Chinese government, speaking
from Belgrade, now states that the "embassy was clearly
targeted." Yuxi "specified that several missiles hit the embassy
from different directions very precisely, and that both buildings
in the embassy compound had been hit." [1] If, as the Chinese
spokesperson says, both buildings in the compound were precisely
hit, this indicates that whoever controlled the bombing had a
very exact idea of what they were shooting at. That would
controvert U.S. claims that a "bad map" caused the tragedy.
German political scientist Erich Schmidt-Eenboom, according to a
report by the Tanjug News Wire, concurs that the "bombing of the
Chinese embassy in Belgrade was no mistake but a sabotage
directed by USA..." [2] Schmidt-Eenboom calls the CIA "bad map"
story "ridiculous," and adds that "such mistakes are impossible.
The most reasonable explanation would be that the USA wanted to
sabotage the declaration by the G-8 foreign ministers concerning
the principles for the peaceful solution on the Kosovo crises
because including Russia and the United Nations in resolving of
the problem wouldn't suit [USA's] wishes."
In an uncanny circumstance, Russian president Boris Yeltsin last
week, a few days prior to the bombing of the Chinese embassy, had
departed from the text of a prepared speech and exclaimed, "Just
let Clinton, a little bit, accidentally, send a missile, we'll
answer immediately!" [3] Had Russian intelligence picked up
hints of what Clinton/USA might do? Was Yeltsin's dire warning
the reason why the Chinese embassy, and not a Russian embassy,
was picked as the target?
Relying on a London Times article, Tanjug News Wire reports that
some British analysts believe the embassy bombing was a CIA
operation. The British analysts reportedly are convinced that
the embassy was not bombarded due to a "bad map" but "due to
special plans of CIA..." [4] A "war within a war," a "parallel
war," with USA having its own hidden agenda, separate from NATO's
purported rationale for the bombing of Yugoslavia -- that idea
also is gaining increasing credibility.
Summing up, we have Boris Yeltsin departing from the text of his
prepared speech, and having a sudden fit: "Clinton better not
hit us -- or else!" Only days later, the Chinese (not the
Russian) embassy gets destroyed. Almost immediately, Ru Mills is
contacted by a source who assures her the embassy bombing was not
an accident. Mills issues her report, and scoops all other news
outlets. Thereafter, other reports begin to trickle in
indicating that, yes, the bombing of the Chinese embassy was *no*
*accident*, but was done to derail peace talks, as Mills also had
already reported.
--- Notes ---
[1] "Chinese spokesman says Peking sharply condemns brutal NATO
act." Tanjug News Wire, 5/11/99.
[2] "Attack on Chinese Embassy - American Sabotage." Tanjug News
Wire, datelined Bonn, 5/10/99.
[3] Report by Dana Lewis, apparently from MSNBC. The report of
Yeltsin's strange outburst was also carried by Matt Drudge at
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 10 May 1999, ric carter wrote: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MAGNETS REVEAL BRAIN FUNCTIONS. The more we discover about our material- istic brain functions, the fewer aspects there are of our humanity that may be due to an immaterial "soul." Every time science pins down another perc- eptual, emotional, analytical, ethical, etc. capability as caused by brain- body physical interactions, it diminishes magical explanations for who and what we are. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/04.15/magnetism.html There's more to us than surgeons can remove. I know this without doubt from uncanny dreams I've had. There's no physical explanation for it. Ditto stories where people have gone "out of body" and reported things there's no way they could physically have known. See also a book, "Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation." If people want to be atheists, that's okay. But I disagree with their materialistic viewpoint. For a time I was agnostic, but I became convinced beyond doubt that there's more than the material world. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sen. Inhofe Almost Assassinated?
-Caveat Lector- Senator Inhofe has been openly critical lately on U.S. policy. Then, next thing you know, the propeller on his airplane falls off. Below from USA Today 5/10/99. _ Sen. Inhofe makes emergency landing CLAREMORE, Okla. - Sen. Jim Inhofe, a pilot for 41 years, made an emergency landing early Saturday after the propeller fell off his airplane. Inhofe, R-Okla., was not injured, but his single-engine airplane was slightly damaged, said press secretary Danny Finnerty. Inhofe was alone in the aircraft. Inhofe said he glided for about eight miles before landing the plane at Claremore Airport. He said he took off from Ketchum, where he keeps his 1979 Grumman Tiger, and had been in the air about 10 minutes when trouble began. Inhofe, an experienced, commercially rated pilot, was en route from northeastern Oklahoma to Oklahoma City, where he was to meet President Clinton, who was touring tornado-ravaged parts of central Oklahoma. Finnerty said the FBI has been asked to investigate because "propellers don't just fly off airplanes every day." _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This Time, Things Are Different (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- THIS TIME, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT === (CNNS, 05/10/99) -- The year is 1992, and the U.S. is shocked by starvation in Somalia. But an article in EXTRA! asks, "If the U.S. has not consistently acted in an altruistic manner toward starving people in Africa, why did it dispatch troops to Somalia at this point?" [1] But Washington Post lullabied us that, "Unlike previous large-scale operations, there is no U.S. strategic or economic interests in the Somalia deployments." [2]. Later on though, we learned that "...four major U.S. oil companies are quietly sitting on a prospective fortune in exclusive concessions to explore and exploit tens of millions of acres of the Somali countryside." [3] Then the U.S. deployed into Haiti. The cover story was that we'd again become very humanitarian, concerned about the Haitians. What we didn't widely understand was that for years the U.S. has been quietly involved in Haitian politics. [4] We wanted the leader of Haiti to be *our* stooge, not just any stooge. It turned out that Haiti is "a major transshipment point for cocaine traffickers..." [5] In 1918, President Woodrow Wilson authorized formation of the Committee on Public Information (CPI). CPI was "a propaganda machine headed up by George Creel." [6] The USA mass media played along: "most newspapers reportedly published all 6,000 press releases sent out by the CPI News Division." [7] The USA mass media even today is a "team player" with the U.S. government; night after night their news coverage mostly just relays whatever the government said that day. (Nightly "News": "Bill Clinton said this"; "Madeleine Albright said that.") In 1941, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt "created the U.S. Office of Censorship, appointing Byron Price, former executive news editor of the Associated Press, director." [8] Also helping control the news during wartime was the Office of War Information (OWI), "a propaganda organization headed up by Elmer Davis, formerly with CBS News and the New York Times..." [9] In 1968, "some 570 South Vietnamese civilians were slaughtered in Mylai." [10] But the U.S. mass media did not challenge the Pentagon's story that it was really 128 commies that had been killed, even though they were aware of controverting reports coming from Europe and elsewhere. [11]. It's all in a day's work for the lambkins of CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, etc. In 1991, "the networks rejected uncensored videotape footage of the heavy Iraqi civilian damage," during the Persian Gulf War. [12] Instead, "thenetworkscontinued to feed the Pentagon-approved, high-tech, smart-bomb, antiseptic, non-threatening version of the war." [13] In 1992, the "Department of Defense and a group of self-selected media executives agreed on nine out of ten ground rules for press coverage of America's next military engagement." [14] President George Bush once exclaimed, "The American people are not stupid!" Why did Bush feel he needed to say that? Polls supposedly show that most of the U.S. public is supportive of current U.S. intervention in Yugoslavia. They've obviously been seduced by U.S. mass media news reports. In spite of a long history of the consistent untrustworthiness of the U.S. government and the mainstream news media, Americans seem to believe that, "This time, things are different." --- Notes --- [1] "The Somalia Intervention: Tragedy Made Simple," by Jim Naureckas. EXTRA! March 1993. Qtd. in *Censored: The News That Didn't Make The News -- And Why* by Carl Jensen Project Censored. New York: Four Walls Eight Windows, 1994. ISSN: 1074-5998. (A.k.a. The 1994 Project Censored Yearbook.) [2] Washington Post, 12/6/92. Qtd. in Jensen, op. cit. [3] "The Oil Factor in Somalia," by Mark Fineman. Los Angeles Times, 1/18/93. Qtd. in Jensen, op. cit. [4] Jensen, op. cit. [5] Jensen, op. cit. [6] *Censored: The News That Didn't Make The News -- And Why* by Carl Jensen Project Censored. Chapel Hill: Shelburne Press, 1993. ISBN: 1-882680-00-6. (A.k.a. The 1993 Project Censored Yearbook.) [7] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [8] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [9] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [10] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [11] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [12] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [13] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [14] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.
[CTRL] Ru Mills: Embassy Hit On Purpose (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "RU MILLS": EMBASSY HIT ON PURPOSE == (CNNS, 05/09/99) -- Special correspondent "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) reports on the recent NATO missile attack on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade: --- NATO Purposely Targeted Chinese Embassy By "Ru Mills" 05.08.99 RMNews -- "NATO purposely targeted the Chinese Embassy", says a usually reliable Rumor Mill News Source. "It was done to derail the peace initiative being put forward by the Russians and the Chinese." The Source went on to say that the Big Three socialist leaders, United States, President Clinton, Britain's Prime Minister Blair, and Germany's Chancellor Gerhard Schroder, need to win in Yugoslavia no matter what the costs. The precedent being set by this action will forever put an end to national sovereignty and will usher in the One World Government. Countries will no longer be in charge of what happens inside their borders. An international watch dog group will oversee everything from farming to religion. If a country refuses to comply with international treaties put forth by the United Nations, it will face the Serbian Solution. Jesse Jackson threw a monkey wrench in the Big Three's bid to bring Milosevic to his knees. Not only did Jackson go against his old friend, Bill Clinton and travel to Belgrade, but he did it under the threat of death from NATO bombs. The mission was successful. So successful, in fact, that Jesse Jackson became the senior statesman and diplomat who suggested a course of action which would end the killing. Russian leaders agreed to broker a peace agreement between NATO and Milosevic. When it appeared that the Russian agreement was going to be successful in stopping the "ethnic cleansing" of Kosovo, the Big Three had to act and act fast. The Russian agreement had Kosovo staying part of Serbia, with no autonomy. If this were let to stand it would mean that Milosevic had won. He had successfully cleansed part of Kosovo of Muslims. The Muslims would not be able to turn Kosovo into a Muslim nation with its own language, alphabet, schools, religion, army and police force. The solution proposed by Russia would mean that all countries would be able to control what went on within their own borders. It would mean that California would be able to call out the National Guard or the Army if the Atzlan Liberation Army demanded autonomy for southern California. This solution did not fit into the plan for a one world government with no borders and no national sovereignty. Therefore the plan had to be derailed immediately. With the tensions rising between the United States and China, it was decided that by striking the Chinese Embassy, the already rocky relationship between the two countries would be further inflamed. The more Chinese killed, the better. The second reason behind the choice of the Chinese Embassy was to push China into attacking Taiwan and reclaiming the island of Formosa and making it part of China once again. RMNews will soon be reissuing an article written in 1996 about the coming war with China. The Kosovo autonomy plan being put forth by the Big Three does not sit well with either China or Russia. China still believes Taiwan belongs to them. Russia is still having problems with provinces like Chechnya that want to break away and become their own country. If NATO's Serbian Solution is successful, all groups of ethnic people, no matter where they are living, will be able to break away from their countries and form their own autonomous and independent nations. Imagine what New York City will look like if the Big Three's Serbian Solution is successful. The Puerto Ricans will declare themselves an autonomous nation, as will the Haitians, the Russians, the Italians, the Chinese. Each new nation will draw its own borders and if there are border disputes, wars will erupt. What is the purpose for such planned chaos? Tribal war, the destabilization and depopulation of the world. After several years of chaos, confusion and mass ethnic cleansing, the United Nations will be asked begged to come in and bring stability and order to the world. The Hegelian dialectic theory of an evolving history is being played out here with a New World Order slant. The Thesis is a world full of sovereign nations. The Antithesis is ethnic tribes wanting to breakaway and form their own nations. The Synthesis becomes worldwide wars which cause famine, pestilence, and massive death. After a period of time, the survivors will beg for an end to the wars. Out of the chaos brought about by the Synthesis of the old Thesis and Antithesis comes the new Thesis. The new Thesis will be a world with no borders, no sovereign nations, and no
[CTRL] NATO: Bad Shots -- Or More Sinister? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- NATO: "BAD SHOTS" -- OR MORE SINISTER? == (CNNS, 05/09/99) -- Incomprehensible to many will be the thought that NATO is purposefully targeting civilians in Yugoslavia with its bombs and missiles. Because most people are basically good, they cannot fathom the possibility of such evil. But it increasingly appears that NATO's new strategy is to attack civilians and non-military targets as a method of weakening Serb morale and thereby achieving victory. A precedent for such a strategy was set in World War 2, when the Allies, through analysis and projection, arrived at precise figures on how many Germans rendered homeless would result in the German people no longer supporting Hitler and the Nazis. An exact figure was determined: if a certain percentage of civilian housing was destroyed, Germany would quickly lose the war. Consequent to their statistical analysis, the Allies began bombing German civilian housing. (A possibly analagous situation is economic understanding that, so long as a certain percentage of Americans are benefiting from the "good economy," they will not care about whatever horrible things their leaders do. "It's the economy, stupid," said Bill Clinton.) The Serb people have rallied around Slobodan Milosevic and his government, consequent to the initial start of NATO hostilities on March 24, 1999. Since then, NATO has recently begun to escalate their air attacks. Hitting only military targets in Yugoslavia hadn't been succeeding. NATO's *apparent* solution to the dilemma has been to hike their bombing of military targets. But as in World War 2, has a high-level decision been reached that, to win, NATO must attack civilians and civilian-related targets? A decision to more directly affect civilians through its bombing campaign is shown by recent NATO attacks on the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building and on the Yugoslav electric supply. "We can turn off your lights at any time," exulted NATO after a high-tech bomb did just that. How military of a target are the RTS building and a Serb power plant? Recent news items suggest that, far from suddenly becoming extremely "bad shots," NATO has implemented a new, hidden strategy, in which the Yugoslav civilian population has become *intentional* targets, both directly and indirectly: ** NATO pooh-poohed Yugoslavia's alleged interception of radio communication between a NATO pilot and his guiding AWACS controller. NATO claimed the tape of the communication was doctored. What if NATO is lying? What if the purported radio interception is accurate? Here is a partial transcript: F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. I maintain 3,000 feet. A column of cars, some tractors are below me. What is it? Request instructions. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. Do you see tanks? Repeat, where are tanks? F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. I see tractors. I hope Reds have not camouflaged tanks into tractors. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. What kind of a strange convoy? What civilians? Hell. It's all Serbian doing. Destroy the target! F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. What shall I destroy, tractors, ordinary cars? Repeat, I see no tanks. Request further instructions. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. It is a military target. Absolutely legitimate military target. Destroy the target! Repeat, destroy the target! F-16 pilot:Charlie Bravo to Mother. Understood. Launching! But the target, it turned out, was not military. At least 75 civilians were killed. [1] ** On May 7th, NATO dropped a "cluster bomb" over Nis, a city with a large civilian population. Cluster bombs are *not* precision weapons. They explode in the air and scatter hundreds of little bombs over a wide area. The May 7th cluster bomb targeted an area of Nis where there are no Serb military or police facilities. At least 11 civilians were killed and several dozens were wounded, after the cluster bomb detonated over the "Big Market" area of Nis, where people do their shopping. [2] ** On May 5th, a convoy of vehicles from Greece was carrying humanitarian supplies into Yugoslavia. The convoy was clearly marked with a "Doctors of the World" logo. NATO had also been informed in advance that the humanitarian convoy would be travelling through the region. Nonetheless, the convoy was attacked by a NATO missile. Subsequent to the attack, Greek newspapers quoted Dr. Lakis Nikolau, who was travelling with the convoy, as follows: "That what happened has been planned and designed by NATO in advance, something like a premeditated murder. There is no other explanation. They knew who we were, where we were going and why, because they had been informed in
[CTRL] Parallel War In Yugoslavia?
-Caveat Lector- US bombers target China embassy in Belgrade for strikes. LONDON, May 9 (Itar-Tass) - The strike on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was made by super-advanced B-2 strategic bombers of the U.S. Air Force, which flew from the Whiteman base in Missouri. They dropped three heavy laser-guided bombs on the embassy building. The bombing was conducted from an altitude of over five kilometers, London Sunday newspapers reported today. They also claimed that the building was also on the list of air raid targets. However, it is not understandable why it was put on the list of NATO targets. Most analysts are inclined to think that the building was put on the list of priority targets as a result of "an incomprehensible mistake" by the NATO operation planning division. Nevertheless, some specialists believe that the strike on the Chinese embassy suddently exposed the existence of "a special direction" in the war against Yugoslavia, which is conducted only by the United States and has aims, different from those proclaimed by the NATO command. The fact that the bombing of the building was conducted by a special force of the U.S. strategic aviation, which is not subordinated to the NATO command and which flew from the American territory, confirms this supposition. Earlier, the Daily Telegraph newspaper reported, referring to military sources, that the U.S. conducts, in actual fact, two wars against Yugoslavia: The U.S. has another "closed" list of targets, along with the one submitted to NATO. Other NATO members, apart from Britain, are not notified of these targets. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Some Serbs Think They're Intentional Targets
-Caveat Lector- Deadly NATO mistakes heighten insecurity in Serbia BELGRADE, May 9 (AFP) - A series of deadly NATO bombing mistakes and attacks on targets in residential areas have heightened insecurity among the population of Serbia and increased scepticism of the alliance's claim that its missiles are not aimed at civilians. NATO has admitted eight blunders -- where missiles went astray or the wrong building was targetted -- since air strikes began on March 24, but says they are few compared to the number of bombing raids it has carried out. Belgrade says at least 500 civilians have been killed and more than 4,500 injured in 47 days of NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade Friday, killing four people. The alliance said it had mistakenly believed the building to be a Yugoslav government building. That attack came after NATO's admission that two cluster bombs had gone astray during an attack on an airfield in Nis, Serbia's second largest city, killing 15 civilians and wounding 70 at a market, a hospital and nearby houses. The attacks were the latest in a series of embarrassing "accidents" in which NATO planes have killed civilians in strikes on a bus, a train, a Kosovo refugee convoy and residential areas in several Serbian towns. NATO has apologised for the mistakes and has said repeatedly that it only targets military and military-related sites. "One cannot feel safe anywhere anymore," Tijana Vukotic, a 24-year-old student said as she was leaving an air-raid shelter Sunday. Her home is in the central Belgrade street of Kneza Milosa, a frequent target for NATO warplanes as many of the Serbian and Yugoslav government buildings, as well as deserted Western embassies, were situated there. Since the start of the bombing campaign, NATO has targetted the Yugoslav army chief of staff building and two Interior Ministry offices there at least three times. Vukotic left her home after the second bombing because she could not "stand the sound of missiles" and the fear. "All my windows were broke, I could not sleep and I was really afraid," she said. But she decided to move back after the unveiling Thursday of a peace blueprint by the G8 countries and three relatively quiet nights in the Yugoslav capital had brought optimism to many Belgrade residents. "I thought it was something positive, and what happened next was the worst nightmare one can imagine. They hit again all the targets they had already smashed," Vukotic said. "What is the point of that? Repeated bombing of empty or destroyed buildings is definitely aimed at making people suffer," she said. Her words were echoed by many Belgrade residents, who simply do not believe the claims, repeated frequently by NATO spokesmen in Brussels and other western political leaders, that civilians are not the target. "They say they are not aiming to hit civilian targets but it is a blatant lie. Everybody can see that," a 54-year-old taxi driver said as he passed the Chinese embassy building. "Saying sorry and cynically apologizing after the murders is offensive and it does not work," Milos Pavlovic, a father of two, said. "Those words have a hollow ring if you are trudging down to the air-raid shelter every night, with no job to go to in the morning because NATO warplanes bombed your factory," said Pavlovic, whose company was demolished in one of the raids. Belgrade residents also dismissed NATO claims that two attacks Friday on a city hotel, Jugoslavija, surrounded by apartment blocks, in which a man was killed, were aimed at destroying a command post used by the "Tiger" militia of Serb para-military leader "Arkan". "Arkan had a casino there, but everyone knew the hotel was empty, and that a big air-raid shelter for the whole block was there," a man living opposite the hotel, said. He said his family now feared going to the shelter. "This must be stopped, only I do not know how," he said. _ Previous Story: Bomb blasts spread fear in Kampala, police geared up AFP Next Story: European elections bigger test for British Conservatives than Labour AFP _ __ ___ Front Page | Asia | World | Business | Financial | Technology | Sport | Entertainment _ Comments or Suggestions? Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong time used throughout (i.e.
[CTRL] News of Nietzche's Death Causes Turmoil (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- NEWS OF NIETZCHE'S DEATH CAUSES TURMOIL === (CNNS, 05/08/99) -- Subsequent to a report two days ago by this news service, in which we pointed out that Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche, reputed philosopher, is dead, vast turmoil has erupted throughout the world. Millions of "well educated" persons are struggling to cope with the news of Nietzche's death. With their anthropological deity misconceptions and post-modern chic fashionabilities now crushed, this has led to a new rash of angst, as shown in items below. Since the props against their inner emptiness, founded on the bulwark of Nietzche-ism, now lie in ruins, international Yuppie-ism is undergoing a profound spiritual crisis. The inner abyss of Neo-liberal thinking, now unchained by news of Nietzche's death, is suddenly manifesting in various locales: ** When an earthquake measuring 6.5 on the Richter scale hit Iran on Friday, killing 8 people, hollow sophisticates bravely struggled with the news. "The truth is relative," many were heard to say. But when, shortly thereafter, a quake measuring 6.1ontheRichterscalerockedAlaska,smug pseudo-intellectualism crumbled. In India, hundreds of thousands are now sleeping in the open, having deserted their homes, "following predictions of an impending apocalypse on Saturday. Vast majorities of people fear that their houses may collapse in a massive earthquake now that a number of astrologers have predicted a doomsday catastrophe." [1] ** According to a report in the Washington Post which appeared yesterday, huge rumors are sweeping the Maryland area that "something" will happen on May 10th. The Post, notably, nowhere in its story provides specifics on the contagious "rumor." "Nobody knows where the rumor came from, and nobody knows what it means. But the vague message that 'something will happen' at a school or schools May 10 has many local parents unnerved, police preparing to patrol campuses and Maryland state officials even postponing an annual standardized test." [2] Note how this story directly follows the previous CNNS report on Nietzche's death. ** NATO pilots are flipping out following their sudden realization that Nietzche, arguably the anti-Christ, has died. On May 7th, now-crazed NATO pilots inexplicably turned their bombs against a Serb hospital and a civilian market. Reuters reports that 15 harmless Serbs are dead and 70 are wounded. [3]. Not long thereafter, NATO pilots, their inner realities crushed by news of Nietzche's death, turned their spiritual turmoil outward by destroying the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. And the Chinese themselves, also experiencing a values crisis following reports of the death of the famous reputed philosopher, reacted with "rage and incomprehension." [4]. A special United Nations meeting was called to deal with the erupting crisis. In light of explosive worldwide reaction to the CNNS report of May 6, 1999, in which this news service pointed out that Nietzche is dead and that God is still alive, critics are appearing and protesting that CNNS should never have emphasized the news. But we stand by our reportage, even while we lament the subsequent crises. --- Notes --- [1] "Doomsday prediction grips India." UPI, 5/7/99. [2] "May 10 Rumors Rattle Region's Schools," by Linda Perlstein. Washington Post, 5/7/99, Page A01. [3] "NATO Bombs Hospital, Market, 15 Dead-Serbs," by Philippa Fletcher. Reuters, 5/7/99. [4] "Shocked Beijing Residents Turn On NATO Over Attack," by Benjamin Kang Lim. Reuters, 5/8/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] Nietzche is Dead (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- NIETZCHE IS DEAD (CNNS, 05/06/99) -- Top 40 philosopher Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche declared that "God is dead." But the late Blind Willie Johnson begged to differ. (And at this point it's obvious that it's Nietzche who is dead.) In a classic blues song, "God Don't Never Change," Johnson philosophized as follows: God, God don't never change. He's God. Always will be God. God in the middle of the ocean, God in the middle of the sea, By the help of the great creator, Truly been a god to me. He's God. God don't never change. God, Always will be God. God in creation, God when Adam fell, God way up in Heaven, God way down in Hell. He's God. God don't never change. God, Always will be God. Spoke to the mountain, Said, "How great I am. Want you to get up this morning, Skip around like a lamb." Well He's God. God don't never change. God, Always will be God. God in the time of sickness, God in the doctor too, In the time of the influenza, He truly was a god to you. Well He's God. God don't never change. God, Always will be God. God in the pulpit. God way down at the door. He's God in the Amen Corner. God don't look at the floor. Well He's God. God don't never change. God, Always will be God. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crashing Apaches Are Kamikazes? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CRASHING APACHES ARE KAMIKAZES? === (CNNS, 05/05/99) -- In World War 2, the Japanese used Kamikaze pilots who served on suicide missions. They would purposely crash their bomb-laden planes into U.S. ships. It was part of Japanese war strategy. The ABC News web site reports today that "a second Apache helicopter has crashed in Albania." This means that 2 of the 24 Apache helicopters sent to Albania have crashed even before they've been used to attack the Serb "enemy." Is the overall strategy to be that the pilots of the Apache aircraft will be Kamikazes? And is the true reason for the premature crashes due to overeagerness on the part of some pilots to prove their loyalty to the divine emperor, Bill Clinton? That is one possible explanation. Another explanation for the crashing Apaches is given in a recent issue of Mother Jones magazine. The AH-64D Apache Longbow was pre-specified to have a Vertical Rate Of Climb (VROC) of 450 feet per minute. And Boeing, which makes the Apache, did (in a way) deliver on the specifications. The Apache does have a VROC of better than 450 feet per minute, as long as it's not weighed down with missiles and extra fuel. "Army engineers say that for every pound the [Apache] Longbow gains, the helicopter loses 0.839 feet per minute of lift." [1] In theory, this translates to a fully loaded Apache not only being unable to climb at all, but even being unable to maintain altitude. The Apache's full complement of 12 missiles weighs 1,721 pounds. If, as Army engineers say, every pound equals a loss of 0.839 VROC, that means 1,721 pounds multiplied by -0.839 VROC equals -1,443.919 VROC. Mother Jones magazine calculates the VROC of a fully-loaded Apache as "*negative* 549 feet per minute." [2] Mother Jones cites a report from the General Accounting Office (GAO), which states that the Apache helicopter lacks the "agility to operate successfully in combat." [3] In related Military-Industrial Complex news, Teledyne, Inc., is connected with the manufacture of "cluster bombs." It is not yet ascertained by this news service whether Teledyne assists in building or builds the cluster bombs now being used in our "conflict" with Yugoslavia. Cluster bombs "explode in the air and release fiery bomblets that cover a wide range." [4] In 1995, Teledyne was sued and settled out of court for $2.2 million. Allegedly, Teledyne used "falsified tests to sell substandard radio gear to the U.S. government. Employees had been instructed to fake tests of electronic gadgets on Stinger and other missiles that enable U.S. soldiers to distinguish friendly from enemy aircraft... About 2,500 components that failed tests were sold to the military." [5] --- Notes --- [1] "Chopper Troubles." Mother Jones magazine, Jan/Feb 1999. [2] Ibid. [3] Qtd. in "Chopper Troubles," op. cit. [4] *Downsize This!* by Michael Moore. New York: Crown Publishers, 1996. ISBN: 0-517-70739-X. [5] Ibid. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PG Satan Rumors
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday May 4 8:09 AM ET Amway Spread Satan Rumors, PG Claims In Court By Jeff Franks HOUSTON (Reuters) - Along with soap and vitamins, those friendly Amway salesmen have been pushing something else for years -- false rumors that rival Procter Gamble Co. is in league with the devil -- attorneys charged in opening arguments of a lawsuit Monday. Procter Gamble lawyers said Amway Corp. had tried to take away sales by fomenting the mistaken belief, prevalent in some religious circles, that Procter Gamble's venerable trademark incorporated satanic symbols such as the number ``666'' and devil's horns. ``They (Amway) know full well the malignant, cancerous effect of associating someone with a satanic cult,'' Procter Gamble attorney Mike Gallagher said. ``It incorporates everything that is bad and nothing that's good.'' The lawsuit is the culmination of years of bitterness between Procter Gamble and Amway, which has filed a counter-suit charging that Procter Gamble is conducting a smear campaign. Procter Gamble attorneys said Amway might have encouraged the rumors since they first surfaced in the 1970s. The lawsuit asks for $595 million in lost sales from 1995 to 1997, plus an unspecified amount for damage to the company's reputation. An attorney for direct marketer Amway denied the charges and said Procter Gamble had sued because it was concerned about Amway's strong sales growth in Asia. The trademark, which dates back to the 1850s, shows a bearded ``man in the moon'' looking over 13 stars, one for each of the original 13 American colonies. Procter Gamble says the trademark ``remains an important company identification'' but removed it in 1985 from the company's more than 300 products. These include such well-known brands as Tide laundry detergent, Crest toothpaste, Ivory soap, Pampers disposable diapers and Folgers coffee. In an audio tape played in court Monday, an Amway distributor said in an April 1995 voice mail to other distributors that Procter Gamble's president had admitted on the Phil Donahue television show that a percentage of the company's profits went to the ``Church of Satan.'' But Amway attorney Charles Babcock, who successfully defended talk show hostess Oprah Winfrey against a 1998 lawsuit brought by Texas livestock producers who said she had defamed beef, said Amway did not approve of the distributor's message and had quickly ordered him to send out a retraction. ``We've bent over backwards to help Procter Gamble stop this rumor,'' he said. Babcock said the Satanism rumors emanated not from Amway but from religious groups unhappy about Procter Gamble's sponsorship of controversial television programs. He charged that the company had handled the problem badly from the beginning. He showed a videotape of comedian David Letterman joking about the rumors on his television show to make the point that the firm's botched public relations efforts had spread the Satanism rumors far and wide. ``They're not mad at us. They're mad at themselves, and they're trying to blame us,'' Babcock said. The real reason for the lawsuit, Babcock argued, was Procter Gamble's concern that Amway was growing rapidly in Asia because of its direct-sales strategy. The company sells its 450 products through 3 million independent distributors worldwide, not through stores, and is known as much for its aggressive recruiting of new distributors as it is for its products. _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gottlieb/CIA/LSD Case
-Caveat Lector- Monday May 3 8:46 AM ET Jury Rules For Dead CIA Agent In LSD Case NEW YORK (Reuters) - A jury Friday ruled against the estate of an artist who said he was driven mad by a clubfooted CIA agent who slipped LSD into his drink in 1952. In a case involving a dead plaintiff, a dead defendant and a dead judge, the suit revolved around the activities of the late Sidney Gottlieb, head of the CIA's Cold War efforts to control the human mind. In the 1950s and 1960s the CIA gave mind-altering drugs to hundreds of unsuspecting Americans in an effort to explore the possibilities of controlling human consciousness. The practice came to light during widely publicized congressional hearings in the mid-1970s. Gottlieb died last month. The New York suit was brought by Stanley Glickman, an American artist who had been living in Paris in the early 1950s. Glickman, who died in 1992, alleged that he had been drinking with a friend and three other men at a bar. One of the men, who had a clubfoot, offered him a drink and halfway through the beverage, Glickman said he had such severe hallucinations that he had to be hospitalized. Glickman's family brought him back to the United States for treatment several months later, but he never fully recovered. The suit was not filed until 1983, after the congressional hearings involving Gottlieb -- who had a clubfoot -- were broadcast. After 16 years, the case finally went to trial and was nearing final summations Tuesday when presiding Judge Dominick DiCarlo died Tuesday while exercising in a federal court gym. The case was immediately transferred to U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood, who had thrown out the suit in 1997. However, it was later reinstated by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. Closing arguments were held Thursday and the jury deliberated about seven hours before ruling against the artist's estate. _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] As The World Ends (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- AS THE WORLD ENDS = (CNNS, 05/04/99) -- No, it's not "As The World Turns" (a soap opera), it's "As The World Ends." America, surrendering its mind to elite opinion leaders, has passively accepted the erroneous idea that "Truth is relative." When Truth is surrendered to false relativity, God Himself becomes a "relative concept.""God is dead," proclaimed Nietzche. But the obvious fact is that God is not dead, but rather that Nietzche is dead. Sings an old (now dead) blues singer, "God... God don't ever change. God... Always will be God." If "God" turns you off, I understand. This editor suffered through years of Roman Catholic indoctrination in his childhood and subsequently went through a period of agnosticism. What gradually led him back toward the light was, of all things, books by the "notorious" Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. But even now, this editor laments that he can not accept the exclusive divinity of Jesus Christ. But yes, there is a God. And what God wants is summed up in the "Golden Rule": Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Not that I always achieve it, but that is the ideal.) So why the candor, from the normally circumspect Conspiracy Nation? It is that this editor now believes America has been given its chance to face the truth, that America chose to ignore the truth, and that now a terrible judgement is coming upon us. No, this editor does not automatically accept everything written in the Bible. But this editor believes that "God is not mocked." America is about to have its eyes opened. Civilians murdered by us in Yugoslavia. We scarcely blink our eyes. But then, as if it is divine retribution, the Columbine High massacre erupts and sends complacent Americans into paroxysms of shock. Then more innocents are killed by our bombs, and it's a yawn to most Americans. But subsequently a horrible tornadic devastation hits Oklahoma and Kansas. It's over. During the 1990s, America was given the choice to either face up to, or turn away from, the truth. The Bible (somewhere) says that in the final days "the Gospel" will be preached to all the world. Suppose that by "the Gospel" is meant "the truth." A dominant event of the 1990s has been the Internet, which now carries the truth to all the world. WE BLEW IT. We (collectively) were given our chance, and we got very "sophisticated," "intellectual," and "modern" as the means for closing our eyes. Now, it's over. "Billy, we blew it," says Captain America to his friend in the movie, "Easy Rider." Captain America and Billy had achieved material "success," but they had somehow lost the way. Shortly thereafter, they died. "Mars is the planet of war, and it went direct into Scorpio on Tues. January 26th, at 3:59 am. GMT. 0 degrees lat. and 0 longitude. It doesn't leave Scorpio until it goes retrograde on March 18th, at 8:40 am. GMT. Being the planet of war, it will increase armed conflicts..." [1] Mars, more aptly put, is the planet of violence, such as in Littleton, Colorado and now with incredible tornadoes in the Midwest. With Mars having gone retrograde, the violence now increases. "In the year 1999 and seven months, From the skies shall come an alarmingly powerful king, To raise again *le grand Roy d'Angolmois*, Before and after, Mars shall reign at will." [2] God is not mocked. If you don't know that, then okay. It's okay if you don't know that. --- Notes --- [1] "Portents Portend Peril To President?" CNNS, 01/29/99. [2] Nostradamus. Qtd. in "Nostradamus Sees Trouble Ahead." CNNS, 04/28/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe
[CTRL] Kosovo Recap (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- KOSOVO RECAP (CNNS, 05/03/99) -- In case you are tuning in late, here is our story thus far . . . . ** August 1995: As many as 500,000 ethnic Serbs were brutally driven from Croatia. Many of these Serbs "fell prey to the depredations of merciless paramilitary death squads, who committed hideous acts of plunder, rape, and mass murder." [1] This Croatian military campaign of "ethnic cleansing" was *assisted* -- not challenged -- by NATO. Also helping the Croats was Military Professional Resources Incorporated (MPRI), "a private military and intelligence consulting firm based in Virginia..." [2] ** February 1996: George Soros, international financial gambler and responsible, many believe, for ruining several Asian currencies, learns that Serbia has annulled his financial front, the Soros Fund, in their country. The Serbian Supreme Court rules that the Soros Fund can no longer operate in Yugoslavia. [3] Is Soros connected in some way with Kissinger Associates? ** October 1998: "Upon the talks of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic with special American envoy Richard Holbrooke, in October 1998, and upon the agreement to resolve the problems in Kosovo and Metohia in a peaceful way and by political means, the Serbian government adopted on October 13, Principles for Political Solution of Problems in Kosovo and Metohia." [4]. Might there have been peace? Perhaps, except that the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) thereupon began a terror campaign, randomly attacking, wounding and killing Serb policemen. [5]. The KLA, "which the Clinton administration has embraced and some members of Congress want to arm as part of the NATO bombing campaign, is a terrorist organization that has financed much of its war effort with profits from the sale of heroin," says an article in today's Washington Times newspaper. [6]. (Note to Dan "Sleepy" Rather: Wake up and smell the coffee; there's a story here.) Following the KLA's terror campaign against Serb police, the police naturally launch a counter-attack against the KLA. *At that point*, a propaganda assault by KLA, who were in turn helped by a Washington, DC media consulting firm, succeeded in demonizing the Serbs, at least in the minds of many. ** January 1999: News of a so-called "Racak Massacre" explodes. But the purported Racak Massacre turns out to have been a fake, a set-up, staged for an either gullible or even complicit mass media. (See CNNS 03/25/99, "Kosovo Drugs Target 'Christian Infidels.'") Yet the "Racak Massacre" serves the purpose of igniting war hysteria. The question to be asked is, Are Clinton, Cohen and Albright possibly so gullible that they bought the "Racak Massacre" story hook, line and sinker? Can the elite White House trio really be that gullible? A scarey thought. ** March 1999: U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright tries to "negotiate" the Rambouillet Agreement. Albright's methods of "negotiation" are Neanderthal: "Sign it, or we'll bomb the sh** out of you." Don Feder, writing in the Boston Herald newspaper, compares Albright's "diplomacy" to that of a Mafia chieftain: "Doing a bad imitation of Vito Corleone at Rambouillet, Albright told the Serbs she would have either their signatures or their brains on the peace accord." [7] But the Serbs will not surrender their homeland, so on March 24, 1999, NATO begins a "rain of terror," bombing Yugoslavia. The NATO operation, called "Operation Allied Force," has the apt initials O-A-F, notes journalist John McLaughlin. ** April 1999: Reverse speech analysis by David Oates reveals Bill Clinton saying as follows: "There's famine down the way / Elf bomb Serb." It turns out, a month later, that famine is indeed imminent in Kosovo. As to "Elf bombs," this may signify high-tech electromagnetic frequency weaponry of some type. A reader has contacted CNNS and offered the following information: The NATO must get a better light in the world. This can be only with HIGH TECH! From Feb.99 to April.99, 14 satellites go into orbit.Official communication-satellites, but is it real? It can be microwave-weapons which can make an earthquake. ** May 1999: Newsweek set to report on imminent famine in Kosovo. Crisis in Albanian refugee camps. Can Albanians really return safely to their homeland, now that Depleted Uranium weapons have possibly contaminated the region? What "homes" do these refugees now have to go back to? Mirjana Markovic, wife of Serb president Slobodan Milosevic, grants interview to "Sleepy Dan" Rather, of CBS's "60 Minutes" program. Markovic comes across as highly credible when she says, for example, "Yugoslavia is defending its territory... Albanians would never
[CTRL] Diana Apparitions Join Market Crash? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- DIANA APPARITIONS JOIN MARKET CRASH? (CNNS, 05/02/99) -- An article in the May 4, 1999 "National Examiner" reports on sightings of a "mysterious English nurse" bearing an eerie resemblance to the late Princess Diana. The nurse, ghost, vision, or whatever it is, has been helping Kosovo refugees reunite with family members amidst the Yugoslav chaos. Perhaps the nurse is only a look-alike? Not so, say the Brits: they have no Diana look-alikes amongst their small staff of nurses in the region. "Ru Mills" (pseudonym), shortly after the August, 1997 assassination of Lady Diana, predicted that "miraculous appearances" of Diana would not be long in coming. But, added Mills, these sightings would be caused by advanced holographic technology and not by any supernatural cause. The image of Diana would be manipulated, warned Mills, by forces seeking to establish a new one-world religion. Who controls the new religion controls the world. According to Mills, "Somewhere in my writings, I quoted Oswald LeWinter who said that the visions of Diana would begin to appear in April of 1999." In her book, "Diana, Queen of Heaven," Mills specifically states that "CIA asset Oswald LeWinter told private investigator and researcher Mike Coyle, that 'very soon, visions of Diana will begin to appear all over the world.'" [1]. The mysterious nurse of Yugoslavia, twin of Lady Diana, may be the start of an avalanche of Diana apparitions. CNNS special correspondent Mills has contacted this news service recently with further information, based on her knowledge and on what her inside sources are now revealing to her. They warn that, concurrent with Diana apparitions, the U.S. stock market is dangling precipitously over an immense chasm. Diana visions could be appearing in tandem with economic collapse. One of Mills' sources tells her "that the New World Order (NWO) faction is actually using their own money to keep the stock market up. He said the old investors, the 401K accounts and retirement accounts are trapped in the market, so they are bailing out. But no new investors are coming in right now, so in order to keep the market going up at the rate it has been going up, the NWO and Federal Reserve are having to put their own private money into the market." This source's information is corroborated by a different source, says Mills. Her second source independently confirms a teetering Wall Street stock market and that the NWO "have been plowing their own money into the market." The U.S. stock market's performance has been an astonishing phenomena during this decade. Like a Tower of Babel, it reaches further and further into the sky. Like with the "unsinkable" ship, the Titanic, there is a widespread sentiment of an invulnerable stock market. But articles published in The New Australian lately have been screaming of danger to market investors. Calling the current situation a "roller-coaster," Gerard Jackson advises that "Panic selling combined with frenzied buying tend to appear only in overvalued markets whose behaviour is more akin to musical chairs rather than considered appraisal of a stock's potential value. Similar behaviour was observed during the South Sea Bubble, the '20s stock market boom and the so-called greedy '80s." What is really fueling the Wall Street bonanza, writes Jackson, is credit expansion: "As I never tire of pointing out, the Fed has let loose and allowed broad money to grow at about 11 per cent annually. This, by any measure, is a very high rate of monetary growth and by its very nature has artificially pushed down interest rates, which is the Fed's intention anyway." In a separate article published by The New Australian, James Henry agrees that the USA "good economy" is headed for trouble: "I do not know a single stockbroker who thinks the good times will last. Without exception, they believe that the economy has reached the peak of the business cycle." Sean Corrigan, again writing in The New Australian, echoes market pessimism and provides hard facts: "Main Street now has 70 per cent of its net worth in the form of financial assets compared to 61 per cent a decade ago, but, more strikingly, equities now represent 29.3 per cent of net worth versus 12.2 per cent in 1988 as their market value has increased 17 per cent a year as a trend." Translated, this means that the typical American's perceived wealth is largely based upon an over-inflated financial market. "It can't happen here" is an ages-old sentiment, routinely proven wrong. When will the market crash? This editor cannot say. Will it crash? Yes, it will crash. We now have a generation of young people who have never experienced what it's like when
[CTRL] Weekly World News Terrifies Readers (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "WEEKLY WORLD NEWS" TERRIFIES READERS = (CNNS, 05/01/99) -- The "Weekly World News" (WWN), available at finer grocery stores in the U.S., often carries thought-provoking stories. WWN also is notorious for its doom-and-gloom predictions. To put things in perspective, here are some of WWN's past stories: ** October 28, 1997: "Mysterious 'Black Flu' To Strike America!" Warns WWN, "A deadly and incurable strain of flu is going to strike the U.S. in early 1998 -- and it will kill more than 40 million Americans!" ** October 28, 1997, WWN: "Glowing Figure of Jesus Appears in White House." An apparition of Jesus Christ is appearing in the White House, and "the ghostlike, glowing figure is warning the First Couple to prepare America for the end of the world!" ** November 11, 1997: "Bubonic Plague Is Back... And It Will Kill More Than 30 Million Americans!" The Bubonic Plague, says WWN, is "set to make a comeback" and could "ravage the United States, Canada and Mexico as early as March of 1998." ** December 9, 1997: "Secret German Plot To Start WWIII." WWN says a still-classified NSA report raises concern that the "Germans really think that this time they can conquer the world." The German attack plan, says WWN, is scheduled to begin "in the fall of 1998." The details of the alleged German plot are to (1) form an alliance with Iraq, "encouraging it to spark a massive new war in the Persian Gulf that entangles the U.S. military"; (2) with U.S. preoccupied with Iraq, German "shock troops" will conquer Poland and France; (3) then the Germans attack England; (4) Germans launch missiles, based in South America, against U.S.; (5) Germans annex California. ** January 20, 1998: "Panic! World Economic Collapse Will Come In April." Mark your calendars, says WWN, since by April, 1998, according to their source, "everyone in the world will feel the sting of poverty. Soon, people will be shooting one another over crusts of bread." ** June 30, 1998: "Secret Prophecies From The Vatican's Hidden Vaults." Bible prophecies hidden away in Vatican vaults have been made public, says WWN. Look out. Here (as of June 1998) is what's coming: (1) October 1998 sees "the sudden and stunning introduction of 'national identification cards.'" (2) In late 1998, "world drought and famine shake societies and governments to their foundations..." (3) Also in late 1998, a "terrifying new virus sweeps the U.S., killing millions of children under age 12." (4) In February, 1999, one billion people will "ascend into Heaven without dying." (5) Armageddon begins on June 30, 1999 (this last still in the future, but don't hold your breath) and involves China, India and Pakistan. In fairness to Weekly World News (WWN), their published "prophecies" are often printed as reports from others and do not base themselves on WWN predictions. Still, as in the WWN supposed NSA secret report (above), WWN sometimes directly involves itself in what can now be discerned as false prophecies. Of course, such alarming predictions *do* sell newspapers. Sherman Skolnick, of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, routinely files such doom-and-gloom prophecies under the heading "Profits of Doom." That is Skolnick's little joke, that alarming prophecies sell newspapers and result in profits -- hence, "Profits of Doom." But such self-seeking moneymakers as WWN and their coterie of false prophets needlessly alarm credulous readers, and create unease. The answer is not to censor the "Prophets of Doom" -- since they are occasionally correct -- but to bear in mind that these "prophets" are often more interested in a buck than in being helpful. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Kosovo Speech Reversals
-Caveat Lector- Speech reversals from David Oates, from his web site http://www.reversespeech.com regarding Yugoslav "conflict". Latest Reversals on Kosovo The following reversals are the first to be found on the Kosovo conflict. May more will be posted over the next few days... [Play Stream][Download File] Evil the weapon. Mustn't show by the sulk (general - nato briefing) [Play Stream][Download File] Erase the sense (nato briefing) [Play Stream][Download File] Seen its sex in a gun (Nato briefing) [Play Stream][Download File] Must remember it / shoot for those ships (Clinton 4/1) [Play Stream][Download File] War must mend the big seal this end (Clinton) [Play Stream][Download File] Theres famine down the way / Elf bomb Serb (Clinton) [Play Stream][Download File] Our friend in the wash / World war hustle [Play Stream][Download File] This jewish Nun with the crime [Play Stream][Download File] Failure in this group [Play Stream][Download File] It helps an old gun, madam [Play Stream][Download File] Serbs give out a slut / Old man leave it, the land - Kissinger [Play Stream][Download File] In their Ireland circle, washes their money - Kissinger [Play Stream][Download File] Shares a fire, I tell 'em / and we face it on your serb - Kissinger [Play Stream][Download File] Serbs, the Lord / Phil we want to get to them (Kosovo14) Clinton [Play Stream][Download File] This will (beeb) honorable crime, I know (Kosovo15) Clinton [Play Stream][Download File] We go with the war (Kosovo16) Clinton [Play Stream][Download File] The plan will sniff the Russan sea / I see awful crime (Kosovo17) (Sen John McCay) [Play Stream][Download File] Lay down the Rome 11 / We shaved the debit (Kosovo 18) (Sen John McCay) [Play Stream][Download File] You love this earth. Hear that dirt / They had to pull them out (Kos 19) Sen Roberts [Play Stream][Download File] Nasty Whore was NATO, yes Kosovo20 (translator) [Play Stream][Download File] Serve the crime, you deal it Kosovo21 (Kissinger) [Play Stream][Download File] I will shelter the snake, we're all united, serving our family Kosovo22 (Ken Bacon) [Play Stream][Download File] All units, we shall nuke em / Burn the sheep Kosovo23 [Play Stream][Download File] He'll surrender yetKosovo24 - William Cohen [Play Stream][Download File] This rule is so secret -- Kosovo25 James Rubin [Play Stream][Download File] One using authority --- Kosovo26 Joe Lockhart (WH press secretary) [Play Stream][Download File] He'll want you dead --- Kosovo27 Cohen [Play Stream][Download File] Talk Military - Kosovo28- Reporter [LINK] Copyright © 1997-1999 Reverse Speech Enterprises DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick Scoops Farah/World Net Daily (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK SCOOPS FARAH/WORLD NET DAILY = (CNNS, 04/29/99) -- On April 13, 1999, this news service received a report from special correspondent Sherman H. Skolnick, in which he warned that, according to his sources, the Serbs had left-over Soviet Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) which they were capable of launching against the United States. Conspiracy Nation News Service published Skolnick's report the following day, April 14, 1999, titled "Skolnick: Kosovo Summary" and archived at the Conspiracy Nation web site in the "CNNS Press Releases" subsection (http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html) Here is part of what Mr. Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts and host of a popular television program in that city, had to say, on April 13th (excerpt): Serbia reportedly has long-range missiles, left to them by their former patrons, the Soviets,--now get this--capable of reaching Washington, D.C. Fair is fair, right? If, without a declaration of war, we can bomb Belgrade near a hospital, surely they have the "right" to missile attack the U.S. Capitol. I take no delight or satisfaction as an American knowing this. I am not the only American appalled at our slide toward the dogs of war. According to Mr. Skolnick, an independent investigator who has cultivated deep-level sources since his work began, in 1963, he also sent copies of his initial report, which warned that the Serbs reportedly have ICBMs in their arsenal, to Joseph Farah and other journalists, including so-called establishment journalists, on April 13th. On April 19, 1999, Joseph Farah, editor of World Net Daily, an on-line, alternative news service (WorldNetDaily.com), in a column entitled "The Dangerous Balkans Game," repeated, based on his own sources, what Skolnick had previously warned (excerpt): In fact, recently, a high-placed source tells me, members of Congress received a classified briefing strongly suggesting the Serbs have inter-continental ballistic missiles capable of hitting the United States. I will repeat that: The Serbs have ICBMs capable of hitting the U.S. U.S. intelligence agencies assume Belgrade has this capability thanks to technology left behind from the old Soviet Union. In other words, the U.S. and NATO are tangling with a rogue nation that might just be able to wipe out a U.S. city or two if they really get angry enough. Thus it is apparent that Mr. Skolnick has "scooped" the prestigious World Net Daily. Mr. Skolnick, a modest man, was initially reluctant to "crow" about his scoop. But in the wider interest of underlining the danger we here in the U.S. are probably facing from Yugoslav-based ICBMs, as well as to issue a rejoinder to some who are inappropriately close-minded to reports emanating from underground journalists such as himself, Mr. Skolnick was persuaded to emphasize his previous report. Says Skolnick: "The Establishment Press are not the only ones with their ear to the ground to hear stuff." -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Circus Comes To Town (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CIRCUS COMES TO TOWN (CNNS, 04/29/99) -- The Cable News Network (CNN) broadcast a "town meeting" this evening, from Champaign, Illinois, a town also, coincidentally, home of the Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS). This editor was not in attendance at the Ted Turner Town Meeting, though if he had been invited he'd have been glad to attend. As reported in the April 29, 1999 issue of the local newspaper, the Champaign-Urbana News Gazette, "admission was by invitation only, so that CNN could choose a diverse audience representing the community." This means that the Cable News Network was selective as to who was allowed into their "town meeting." "No riff-raff allowed," the internationally viewed news network seemed to say. And, hypocritically, while the Turner Network excluded spontaneous representation, host Jeff Greenfield, in the very same broadcast, lamented the question of high school "out castes" and (seemingly) protested the existence of such. "Isn't it awful," moaned Greenfield, "that high schools are filled with outcasts." That was one of the themes of the Turner Town Meeting: that high school society regretably has its fringe elements, its "nerds," who are shunned by the dominant high school cliques. "What a pity," Greenfield seemed to say, even while his very own Ted Turner society of corporate journalism had automatically excluded any fringe elements from its mislabeled "town meeting." But even with Cable News Network's pre-arranged selectivity (nowhere mentioned in the broadcast as a background to their fake "populist" "town meeting"), the local yokels didn't come across too badly. Thoughtful comments were heard, expressing fears of increasing "fascism." But even then, the Turner Thought Goons had pre-arranged the set-up, bringing in selected survivors of the Littleton, Colorado massacre to function as "wise elders," called upon if necessary to belittle Champaign's common sense, were it to get out of hand. Thus was CNN's representation of a "town meeting" sabotaged from the very start. This town hasn't seen so much excitement since January 28, 1998, when Bill Clinton came to town and his plane got stuck in the mud at the local airport. One of the locals managed to get in that, in their home, they've not had television for the past 10 years. This, not because they can't afford it, but rather because they feel, as a family, they're better off not watching TV. Visibly uncomfortable, Greenfield offered a lame joke that his bosses at CNN wouldn't be happy to hear that. But hardly anyone laughed at Greenfield's quip. The people of Champaign-Urbana, Illinois who did pass through the CNN "thought detectors" and managed to slip into the "town meeting" gave a valiant effort to get their voices heard in spite of the constant commercial interruptions, the Littleton, Colorado "wise elders" oversight, the Jeff Greenfield steering committee, and the probable "plants" within the audience itself. In Dow Mossman's book, "The Stones of Summer," a main character explains that, "I think we're so goddamn beautiful out here, with nothing to do, that if we hadn't effectively learned to say 'screw it,' we'd be as crazy as Dawes Williams himself." We are so goddamn beautiful out here, with nothing to do. Then, the circus comes to town. Then the circus leaves town. (Who can forget the circus?) Jeff Greenfield can forget the town, but the town can never forget the CNN "town meeting." On the CNN Thursday night circus, the young man with the weird hairdo (a townie) hemmed and hawed, then muttered, "Aw shucks, why the fascism?" His mom added about him, "Never mind the hairdo. He's kind to animals." A sleepy night for Jeff Greenfield. A major event for this town. "Screw it," says this editor. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] CTRL Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Frank Newsom wrote: -Caveat Lector- This list is a really fine group of conspiracy folk. Can't even find the one right under their own noses. There was once a time when you could only post 4 times a day. There were many more "factual" posts and less discussion. Many of the older members are no longer here or post much less frequently. Threads of pure drivel go on forever. There was discussion of splitting the list into one for "serious researchers" by invitation only and then there are the rest of us. Nitwits. But who's to say who the "serious researchers" are? I just don't read all posts; I look for what interests me (like with a newspaper) and delete the rest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nostradamus Sees Trouble Ahead (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- NOSTRADAMUS SEES TROUBLE AHEAD == (CNNS, 04/28/99) -- In Century X, quatrains 9-10, reputed seer Nostradamus describes a future tyrant. He writes, in part, as follows: From an infamous woman shall be born a sovereign Prince, His surname shall be from breeches, Born after his father's death, Never a King was worse in his province. Endeavor of murder, enormous adulteries, A great enemy of all humanity... The notes included in The Millennium Edition of Nostradamus explain that these quatrains describe "an infamous tyrant." Who might this person be, "born after his father's death" and associated with "enormous adulteries." Could Nostradamus be speaking of Bill Clinton? Willie Breytenbach, a professor of political science at the University of Stellenbosch, after analyzing various Nostradamus quatrains, states that World War III will start in the Balkans. Professor Breytenbach, based on his analysis, is specific as to when it will start and how long it will last: it will begin, he says, this July; it will last seven months. [1] Nostradamus "is clear it will start before the end of the century during the period of Cancer which is between June 22 and July 23, and in a triangle bordered by Greece, Italy and Turkey, which is the Balkans," says Breytenbach. [2] The Reuters article which reports on the professor's analysis of Nostradamus unfortunately does not cite which quatrains that analysis is based upon. This news service therefore delved on its own into the Nostradamian text to see what it could find. The legendary seer is often vague on specifics. His quatrains are often like an "ink blot," in which the reader can see what he wishes to see. But at times Nostradamus is quite specific, such as in the following quatrain: In the year 1999 and seven months, From the skies shall come an alarmingly powerful king, To raise again *le grand Roy d'Angolmois*, Before and after, Mars shall reign at will. [3] "Mars" (above) refers to the god of war. In astrology, the planet Mars also denotes war. In a report by this news service, dated Jan. 29, 1999, we quoted a source, an astrologer, who had this to say: Mars is the planet of war, and it went direct into Scorpio on Tues. January 26th, at 3:59 am. GMT. 0 degrees lat. and 0 longitude. It doesn't leave Scorpio until it goes retrograde on March 18th, at 8:40 am. GMT. Being the planet of war, it will increase armed conflicts, and be the birth place of coups. [4] Our astrologer source was worried about the effect of Mars going retrograde on March 18th: "If it is going direct when trouble is conceived, retrograde is where it explodes." She added that she "shuddered to think" what might happen. [5] Our astrologer source was not far off in her prediction, and was even, arguably, right on-target. She foresaw trouble exploding on March 18th. Trouble *did* explode, in the Balkans, on March 24th, when the NATO began bombing there. But the gears for that bombing may have been set in motion on or around March 18th. In the CNNS report on this astrologer's predictions (op. cit.) we also included something else she foresaw: "A further portent occurs on August 16th through the 18th, an 'astrological alignment we haven't seen in 4,000 years or so. It is the Grand Cross alignment,' says our source." [6] A CNNS reader has contacted this news service, warning of a sinister "Gog and Magog" scenario now unfolding in the Balkans, based on his understanding of Ezekiel, chapters 38 and 39, in the Bible. As already alluded, there is sometimes a sense of "ink blot" in the various predictions, with people bringing their own preconceptions to what they are studying. Then again, who *is* the "infamous tyrant" who's been "born after his father's death" and is associated with "enormous adulteries"? --- Notes --- [1] "World War Three Set To Start In July -- Nostradamus," by Jeremy Lovell. Reuters, 4/26/99. [2] Ibid. [3] Century X, quatrain 72. From *The Complete Prophecies of Nostradamus*, updated by Robert Lawrence. New York: Crown Publishers, 1994. ISBN: 0-517-59092-1. [4] "Portents Portend Peril To President?" CNNS, 1/29/99. [5] Ibid. [6] Source, qtd. in "Portents Portend Peril To President?", op. cit. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many
[CTRL] Skolnick: Plot to Assassinate Milosevic (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK: PLOT TO ASSASSINATE MILOSEVIC === (Below by Special Correspondent Sherman H. Skolnick) (CNNS, 04/27/99) -- Plot to Assassinate Slobodan Milosevic by Sherman H. Skolnick: To help a proposed ground war. Or, to make a ground war unnecessary. In either case, the secret forces of the West are plotting to assassinate Slobodan Milosevic. Background: in the late 1980s, the American CIA created Milosevic. Like other Frankenstein's Monsters, he turned on his creator. Others did the same: Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman; Fidel Castro of Cuba; Panama's Manuel Noriega. Milosevic became an outspoken nationalist, appealing to the masses in a country long over-run by huge foreign powers. "Serbia for the Serbians!" was the substance of his slogans. Some fail to adequately explain how World War One started. The royals of the then powerful Austro-Hungarian Empire had the bad sense and timing to visit Sarajevo on a local national patriotic holiday. The royal bigwig and his wife were assassinated. The Austro-Hungarian moguls insisted on intervening in Serbia's internal affairs to supposedly investigate the murders. The rest is the blood-stained history, 1914 to 1918. Has the example of 1914 been lost on the United States, intervening on the internal affairs of Serbia? Now, by way of intervening in Serbia, the American CIA has a scheme both simple and diabolical. A journalist known for being both outspoken and independent is to finally get an exclusive interview with Milosevic in the presence of a Peace Delegation from the U.S. Unknowingly, the journalist and the Peace Delegation are to be the pilot laser fish, guiding U.S. missiles right to and at Milosevic. The journalist, not an establishment type at all, is to be thrown away---blown away, actually---in the process of the political assassination of the Serb leader. Some suspect a somewhat similar bloody trick was involved when CIA-darling Larry King, of the spy agency's creations Ted Turner and CNN, lured the Minister of Information of Serbia to do a live satellite hook up with Larry King through the Radio Television Serbia facility in Belgrade. The Serb official arrived near the RTS Building and was horrified, just as the U.S. missiles struck. If he had arrived a few moments earlier Larry King would have his world exclusive---a Serb official and a Serb Radio-TV facility both blasted to bits for the entertainment of war-mongers and apathetic viewers. Those planning to take me, a known independent journalist, in my wheelchair, to meet Slobodan Milosevic, are well-meaning and innocent. Note to CIA bastards: I uncovered your dirty trick just in time. I am not going to be the patsy and pilot fish, to be thrown away, in your bloody scheme to intervene in the sovereign state affairs of Serbia, or any nation, by political assassinations. All, to further the New World Disorder. Stay tuned. -- Skolnick since 1963 has been the founder/chairman of Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, investigating and disclosing instances of judicial and other bribery and political murders. Recorded phone message(regular call) (773)731-1100. Office, 7 days, 8 a.m. to midnight, (773)375-5741. FAX(call first) (773)375-5742. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] webwsite[after about 5/15/99] skolnickreport.com For a heavy packet of his printed stories, send $5.00 and a stamped, self-addressed business-sized envelope with three stamps on it to 9800 SO. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870. Since 1991 he has been producer now moderator of public access Cable TV Show, one-hour program called "Broadsides" in Chicago, reaching upwards of 400,000 viewers on Channel 21 Cable TV, 9 p.m. Monday evenings. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Strange Symbolism at NATO Summit (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
STRANGE SYMBOLISM AT NATO SUMMIT
(CNNS, 04/25/99) -- A broadcast by local independent radio
(WEFT-FM) news outlet, "News From Neptune" (4/24/99), pointed out
some strange symbolism at the NATO summit held these past few
days in Washington, DC.
According to the broadcast, the main conference layout involved
the NATO "logo," a cross eerily reminiscent of the Nazi swastika,
surrounded by tables arranged in the form of a pentagon.
("Pentagon," as in *the* Pentagon.)
This news service has been imperfectly able to corroborate the
existence of a weird symbolic layout arranged for the NATO summit
main conference. From news video of the NATO summit, it indeed
appears that the conference tables were arranged in the form of a
pentagon, and surrounded the NATO "iron cross" logo.
Below is an attempt to illustrate the conference layout:
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The symbolism is telling: the U.S. military (Pentagon) surrounds
the NATO "iron cross" logo.
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outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that,
wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS!
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[CTRL] Journalists Murdered by NATO (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- JOURNALISTS MURDERED BY NATO (CNNS, 04/25/99) -- According to latest reports, 15 civilians were killed by the NATO bombing of the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building in Belgrade [1]. This number, 15 dead, adds a further chilling link between the Columbine High massacre and the RTS massacre, since besides their juxtaposition in time, they both now share equal body counts. According to a report in the Electronic Telegraph, there had been division within NATO over whether or not to actually bomb the RTS building, rather than its transmitters, but that the U.S. Pentagon's wishes finally prevailed. Reporter John Simpson says he had been receiving on-again, off-again whispered warnings: "Don't go to the RTS building tonight." But the tragic Columbine High massacre in Littleton, Colorado, seems to have opportunely provided cover for the NATO attack on the RTS building. The Littleton massacre occurred on a Tuesday. Then, writes Simpson, "on Wednesday, came another private whisper. The Pentagon has won the battle; don't go to Serbian Television tonight." [2] The USA mass media's blanketing coverage of the high school massacre served to overwhelm coverage of the other massacre which occurred the following day, in Belgrade. In his article, Simpson describes some of what he saw at the bombed RTS building: "I saw the make-up woman again on Friday morning. Or, to be more exact, I saw her foot. It was sticking out at a strange angle from the heap of crumbled brick and plaster that was all that was left of her room." [3] Australian journalist Miroslav Mlinar contributes his own eyewitness description of the horror at the Belgrade building: "I saw three bodies protruding from the wreckage. I approached the nearest one, but the man was already dead, all torn apart. I moved on to pull out the second one. Then went back for the third one, but then I collapsed. The firemen arrived then. This has been a horror that cannot be put into words..." [4] Ted Turner's Cable News Network (CNN) may have been tipped-off ahead of time that the RTS building was to be bombed. CNN pushed hard for an exclusive interview with the Serbian Minister of Information, Aleksandar Vucic.Had he consented to the interview, planned for broadcast on CNN's "Larry King Live," Vucic would have been in the RTS building when the NATO attack occurred. Says Vucic, "I've found out that interview was scheduled exactly at time when attack happened, in RTS rooms. It would be funny for me to say that somebody wanted to kill me. I think that they wanted, at first place, spectacular live show in which everybody could see how it looks like when missile shot." [5] A "spectacular live show"? Or was CNN part of a plot to murder Vucic? Journalists worldwide are condemning the NATO attack on the Serb television building. After all, if we can kill their journalists, then who's to say they can't kill our journalists? According to Chrystyna Lapychak, director of the New York-based committee for the protection of reporters, the murder of civilians at the RTS building "might forever jeopardize correspondents who report about various conflicts all over the world. Under the Geneva Convention, reporters are not fighters." [6] By violating the Geneva contract, NATO may have voided that contract. In another NATO atrocity, 5 children have died after a NATO plane dropped a "cluster bomb" on them. "Edon (3), Fisnik (9), Osman (13), Burim (14) and Vajdat (15) Kodza were killed. Two wounded boys are transferred to the Pristina Hospital. Shrapnels of the cluster bomb lightly injured another four kids." [7] Besides "cluster bombs," this news service has reported on the use, by NATO, of depleted uranium (DU) weapons in Yugoslavia. [8] This use of DU weapons is corroborated in a recent report, which states that "Remnants of radioactive ammunition have been found in many places raided by NATO planes..." [9] It has also come to light that U.S. Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, via the U.S. State Department, may have subtly threatened the lives of some U.S. Congress members who wanted to go on their own fact-finding mission to Yugoslavia. According to Congressman Kurt Weldon, he was peremptorily told "that such a trip should not take place." And, according to reports, "The Congressmen were not only told that the U.S. Administration was against the tour but were warned that no one could guarantee their security." [10] --- Notes --- [1] "NATO bombs Serb TV off the air." UPI, 4/25/99. [2] "What signal does this send?" by John Simpson. Electronic Telegraph, 4/25/99. [3] Ibid. [4] "Tens of Dead in the Attack on the RTS." 4/24/99. www.serbia-info.com/news [5]
[CTRL] Blowback From RTS Bombing Foreseen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "BLOWBACK" FROM RTS BOMBING FORESEEN (CNNS, 04/24/99) -- You are living in a town, a "town that time forgot." Beside the old city hall there's a small park, "crisscrossed by paths and dotted with benches. On warm summer evenings the townsfolk gather there around the bandstand to gossip with their neighbors and listen to the concerts." [1] Your town is a last bastion of a more innocent time, still flowing in currents reminiscent of 1900. The newest craze is the bicycle-built-for-two. Young lovers sip ice-cream sodas at the downtown drug store. But a change has occurred in your world, though you do not yet see its effects. In the past few years, giant shopping malls have landed outside town; they encircle the city. The downtown is being gradually sucked dry by the encircling octopus. Like your "town that time forgot," your entire nation still rests in currents reminiscent of 1900. There is still hope and idealism, but these have been more and more strangled by another encircling octopus: the outside world. "For a long time the United States had been able to develop independently, thanks to her abundance of raw materials... [But] American industrialists were soon in the thick of the world-wide scramble for markets and more raw materials." [2] This fight over raw materials and markets sucked your idyllic nation into World War I, the "War to End All Wars." Your neighbor's boy, John, a fine, handsome lad, catcher on the local baseball team, died "over there." He read stories in the newspapers, horrible stories, about "evil Huns." A passionate young man, he put down his catcher's mit and picked up a rifle. "Johnny got his gun," they say. After the "War to End All Wars," your nation was never the same. Violence here seemed to grow after each of the subsequent deadly overseas "conflicts": World War II; Korea; Vietnam. There was a strange "blowback": the more we killed others overseas, the more we killed each other here at home. Yet there was comfort: we controlled more and more raw materials; we controlled more and more foreign markets. With the price of blood paid in endless gallons, material wealth was the recompense. Now a new "conflict" draws us to Yugoslavia. Already the escalating price of matter is demanding greater payments from spirit. During the Vietnam "conflict," journalists were never purposely killed by the "enemy." Yes, journalists reporting live from Vietnam risked danger. But there was an unspoken sense of honor, that non-combatants weren't to be knowingly shot dead. But the inflationary price of raw materials and foreign markets now has upped the ante: on Friday, April 23, 1999, U.S.-led NATO deliberately dropped bombs on the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building in downtown Belgrade. "There were many journalists, technicians and other employees in the building at the time of the strike." [3] Here is an eyewitness account of the BLOODY aftermath of the USA/NATO bombing of the RTS building: We saw a woman shouting from the ruins: "Please, I am here, help me!!" Some men tried to get her out. She was walking around like a lunatic, shouting: "Where is Jelena? Jelena, she is still in the building!!" Then we saw somebody falling from the second floor. We saw a man who was hanging upside down from the first, or second floor, I dunno. His head was all covered in blood. His legs were literary crushed by the concrete block. Everybody tried to help him. He is (or was) around 20-25 years old. People were running around dripping with blood. Fire and smoke all over the place. Blood could be seen everywhere. A real massacre. Then a friend of mine shouted "This man is dead!!" I didn't turn my head to see him because I thought I was about to faint. My friends went a bit further, and saw the corpse lying without a head. We also saw a pair of (woman's) legs lying crushed by another concrete block. I think that she was already dead, even though people tried to pull her out. It was terrible. I don't know if I described it well enough. I am still shaking and I'm unable to think. People were lying wounded all over the place. I can still smell the mixture of blood and smoke. [4] What will be the blowback, here in the United States, from yesterday's newest carnage? We shall see. One thing for sure, we've all of us aged quite a lot this past week: first from the blood spilled at Columbine High; then from the blood spilled at the RTS building. We're all a lot older now. The town baseball team has stopped playing. The band concert has been cancelled. The soda fountain has gone out of business. The bicycle has a flat tire. The young lovers have broken off their
Re: [CTRL] History of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Bill Kalivas wrote: -Caveat Lector- Would anyone on the list recommend a book on the history of the region called Yugoslavia? Not the crappola from the Clinton Cartoon Network, but something that would teach me the players, and the historical background of the area. Not a book, but good place to start is Sherman Skolnick's interview with members of the Pavlovic Peace Delegation. It's transcribed at my web site, under heading "Understanding Yugoslavia": http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (fwd) School Guard Mystery in Columbine High Horror: Media Lying Down Again? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Below is from alt.conspiracy news group: After surveying the newspaper, television, radio, and net news reports talk shows regarding the tragedy at Columbine High in Littleton, Colorado, it suddenly occurs to me that damn few questions are actually being answered. Therefore, I would like to list a few of the more obvious questions and see if any enlightened readers can post a clue as to the answers. When I try to piece together many of the statements made by witnesses and various officials--at least as reported by journalists and others so far--few of the comments make much sense. Yes, the United States is already innundated with report after report on "How to Prevent Another Columbine" (the collective conclusion seems to be that we can do that with more student counseling and better school security, which is what the same people said after all the other school shootings). Nonetheless, the people in the media who are flooding America with scene after scene of grieving friends and relatives of Columbine High victims--along with interminable talking heads with their opinions and pet theories--have yet to provide answers for a few of the more obvious questions: --The mystery school guard. From various officials and witness being inteviewed I have heard many conflicting reports about a supposed armed guard at Columbine High. Some have said the school had no armed guard at all. Some have said they had one who was absent the day of the massacre. One offical said that was an armed guard who "exchanged shots with the gunman." If so, he didn't seem to hit anyone he should have, since the killing went on for a long time. Further, I have heard no report of any "armed school guard" killed or wounded defending the students. If there was an armed guard, what happened to him? Why did he disappear after "exchanging shots with the gunman", if that report was true? Why was he unable to protect the students--if he exists at all? --Further, I have heard very conflicting about the SWAT teams and their response. Some students have complained that no one was there to help them for a long time. Yet, one official reported that a SWAT team was on the scene "minutes" after the 911 call and had "exchanged shots" with the gunmen. If so, why is it also reported that the teacher who was murdered lay wounded for hours and finally bled to death? The time line presented by the media makes no sense at all when you break it down. --Hostages? Some have said that the SWAT team could not get in to take the wounded out because the gunman had hostages. Others have said that no hostages were taken at all. --Many authorities now saying that the SWAT team could not get in for hours because of the bomb danger. The question then becomes, if armed assistance was immediately on the scene, but could render not assistance to those inside the school due to the danger of explosives, how did the killers have time (in the "minutes" before the 911 call and the arrival of the SWAT them) to place so many bombs around the building? Did the two killers have help? Did they place bombs in advance of the killing spree? Further, since people were bleeding to death, was there no one on the scene with the military-style training to step around explosive devices quickly (in order to stop the killing and render assistance to the victims) without setting the bombs off? These are just a few of the questions that spring to mind. As I suggested earlier, I have noted show after show featuring--sometimes ad nauseum--people supposedly in the know who are, having been given a forum by the media, flooding the airways with opiniated verbiage about "how to prevent another Columbine". Yet, I have heard no clear explanation at all regarding what actually transpired during the massacre. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
[CTRL] Refugees To Meat Process Plant
-Caveat Lector- From NewsMax Friday April 23, 5:25 AM Clinton's Balkan Refugee Secret Vice President Al Gore announced on Wednesday that the U.S. would welcome up to 20,000 Kosovar refugees to the American mainland, scuttling an earlier plan for emergency resettlement at Guantanamo Bay. The administration claimed that the Guantanamo option was ditched after the displaced Kosovars rejected the idea of being relocated so far from their homeland. Yet neither Gore nor anyone else explained why the equally distant American mainland was geographically more acceptable. What the Vice President and the reporters who covered his refugee announcement failed to mention is this: the 20,000 Albanian Kosovars would be just the latest Balkan influx to hit American shores since the U.S. became embroiled in that European conflict. In fact, since the mid-90's, America has resettled over 80,000 displaced persons from the region, mainly Bosnian Muslims, primarily to the American mid-west. Moreover, America's largest meat processing company, which just happens to have a curious link to Clinton-friendly Tyson Foods, has done very well by the deluge of hardworking Balkan refugees willing to take their dangerous non-union jobs. A case in point: The small town of Waterloo, Iowa, population 65,000, has been overwhelmed since 1995 with resettled Bosnians, many of whom find their first work at the local meat processing plant. Until recently Bosnian immigrants made up nearly a third of the 2,000 strong workforce at Iowa Beef Processors, Inc.'s Waterloo plant. Over the last few years Waterloo has taken in about 6,000 Bosnians, nearly 10% of the town's entire population. The new immigrants are recruited by IBP for rough and tumble meat-packing jobs at below union wages. The influx of Bosnians to Iowa has made the state the only one in the nation with its own refugee bureau. In fact, the U.S. meat-packing industry has a history of recruiting workers on-site in Yugoslavia going back to the 1920's; though, thanks to America's recent Bosnia entaglement, IBP generally has to look no further than Chicago for eager refugee labor. IBP became dominant in it's industry after successfully challenging major competitors like Hormel and Armour; companies which generally offered better paying unionized work to American citizens. Before IBP hit the jackpot with the new Bosnian labor pool, the company actively recruited Mexican and Vietnamese workers. And what about IBP's Clinton-Tyson connection? The link is through Hudson Foods. In August 1997 Arkansas' Hudson Foods was pretty much run out of business after the Clinton Dept. of Agriculture determined that e-coli contamination of its ground beef had sickened 16 people in Colorado. Though no one died, within days the USDA ordered millions of pounds of beef recalled. The alarm caused Hudson's major beef buyer Burger King to cancell it's contract. Meat industry executives were stunned at the USDA's heavy-handed tactics. Hudson was primarily a chicken processing operation that had branched out into beef and pork, with plants outside Arkansas like the one where the e-coli problem was discovered. And Tyson Foods, notorious as a longtime Clinton backer with a history of winning favorable treatment from his state and federal administrations, had long been interested in acquiring Hudson. But Hudson was never interested in selling out until the Clinton USDA struck. Then the Tyson deal became an offer Hudson couldn't refuse. Still, Tyson didn't want Hudson's beef processing plant, the one where the USDA first found the e-coli contamination. For that another buyer had to be located. That buyer? Iowa Beef Processors, the same company which made out so handsomely when Bill Clinton's Balkan refugees began streaming into America. Small world. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
[CTRL] NATO Bombs Serb TV
-Caveat Lector- Conspiracy angle in below is importance of propaganda war and also the "enemy's" propaganda gives perspective on NATO propaganda. www.serbia-info.com/news RTS building in Belgrade centre hit April 23, 1999 RTS resumes broadcasting Belgrade, April 23 (Tanjug) - NATO criminals targeted the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building in the very heart of Belgrade at 02:06 a.m. local time Friday, the city emergency center confirmed in a statement to Tanjug. All three RTS programs were knocked off the air in the attack. According to first information, there are casualties. Civil defense crews were at the scene minutes after the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) building was. "Crews are trying to rescue the RTS members who were on the job. There are wounded. We are pulling out of the rubble one wounded person at this very point. We are doing everything we can," city civil defense commander Dragan Covic told Studio B TV. Covic urged Belgraders who live nearby to keep away from the hit RTS building because new detonations were possible. In the criminal NATO air assault on the Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) headquarters in the heart of Belgrade, several surrounding buildings, most of them housing facilities, also suffered damages. The damaged buildings include the Centre for Children and Youths in Takovska St. and the children's theatre Dusko Radovic, both right next to the hit RTS building. The RTS employees, whose building was hit last night by the NATO missile, are doing their best to resume broadcasting the programme. They have been broadcasting it regularly since the beginning of the air strikes, and are now knocked off the air. There were many journalists, technicians and other employees in the building at the time of the strike. Some Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) staff members who were broadcasting a program at the time of the criminal NATO missile attack on the RTS headquarters in the very centre of Belgrade early Friday have recounted the horrors inside the destroyed section of the building. [INLINE] "We were sitting in the broadcasting room and working, when a blast was heard. The wall before us disappeared, and next we realized that there was nothing two meters behind us. We only heard the moans of the wounded," Sava Andjelkovic, head of the broadcasting shift, recounted. The wounded RTS members have been rescued from under the rubble, but no reports are available about whether there have been any fatalities. Eighteen wounded members of Serbian Radio and Television (RTS) were admitted to Belgrade's Emergency Centre early on Friday, according to RTS. One of the wounded, who were doing their job when the U.S.-led NATO aggressors targeted a part of the RTS building soon after 2 a.m., died, while another, who sustained severe injuries to his internal organs, was immediately operated, RTS quoted Emergency Centre sources as saying. According to the latest information, there are casualties, but their number is unknown yet. Many of them are wounded, most of them transported to hospitals. This barbaric attack on journalists is unprecedented in the world history. Fire brigades have managed to put out the fire that broke out when a missile hit the part of the RTS building where the broadcasting and technical rooms where located. The four-storey part of the building collapsed, so that the remaining part looks as being cut off. RTS members whose offices were in the building's ground floor and first floor are believed to be trapped in the rubble. A large number of RTS members, who have arrived at the scene to watch rescue operations, have voiced their embitterment at NATO's heinous crime. [INLINE] [ Home | Encyclopedia | FactsFigures | News ] Copyright © 1998, 1999 Ministry of Information Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] Littleton on Sollog Line
-Caveat Lector- This Sollog character is often wrong in his "predictions" (but he never trumpets his misses). Still, for conspiratologists anyway, his "line of tragedy" angle on Littleton massacre is intriguing. From http://www.theeunderground.net/Features/features248littleton.shtml School Shooting in Littleton Colorado! Bizarre connection between shootings at Columbine High and other school shootings! Welcome to Thee Under Ground Net Bizarre connection in Columbine High shooting! How rash of school shootings connect to each other! By JP Essene Editor of Thee Under Ground Net 4/20/99 Ripleys believe it or not... The latest school shooting by the Trench Coat Mafia, in Littleton Colorado at Columbine High School is CONNECTED in a most BIZARRE way to the rash of school shootings that have been occurring all over the US the past couple of years. I've written many articles about all these shootings and knew another would occur any day. IT WAS OVER DUE. And it did occur EXACTLY where I warned in my other articles on these school shooting that all have something in common. It struck THE EXACT MIDDLE OF A LINE that I've been writing about since early 1995. This BIZARRE LINE OF TRADEGY is known on my infamous site as THE SOLLOG LINE OF TRAGEDY. I've referred to it in countless articles before. Many other TRAGEDIES besides these school shootings have struck it as well. The Oklahoma City Bombing Jon Bennet Ransey's Death Versaces Death Michael Kennedy's Death Just to name a few of the other infamous TRAGEDIES that have ALL STRUCK THE LINE OF SOLLOG. You can find 1000's of referenences to this LINE OF TRAGEDY in USENET as well. The LINE OF SOLLOG came to be in 1995, when Sollog started warning about the FUTURE and NUKES in papers in the Philadelphia area. He then sued the US government over NUKES and again wrote about THIS LINE in detail in his case, and also about many other events IN THE FUTURE in remarkable detail. So exact was the details of FUTURE EVENTS like TWA 800 and Diana's Death that the European media calls him NOSTRADAMUS of the 90's. He guaranteed in 1995 that certain types of TRAGEDIES like these bizarre shootins would all occur on a STRAIGHT line across the US. They then occurred and they have indeed struck the SOLLOG LINE of tragedy across the HEART OF AMERICA. As I noted in my other articles, Springfield in Oregon and Jackson Mississippi are both ON THE SOLLOG LINE. When you connect the school shootings that did not occur ON THE SOLLOG line, another STRAIGHT LINE is formed by the locations of the shootings in Jonesboro, Peducah and PA. The TWO School Shooting Lines just happen to INTERSECT in the birth place of that scumbag in the Whitehouse, aka Bill Clinton. You know the ass that just started World War III in the Balkans. It's also a FACT, that the EXACT POINT IN THE MIDDLE of the two previous shootings ON THE SOLLOG LINE is EXACTLY where this latest shooting occurred. LITTLETON is the halfway point between the school shootings that occurred in Springfield Oregon and Jackson Mississippi directly ON THE SOLLOG LINE. Look at this map of the US. Map of US schootings. Is this a coincidence? NOT It is a WARNING that NUKES are near, says the WORD OF ONE aka Sollog. With events in the BALKANS you KNOW NUKES may indeed be around the corner. Thanks to the admitted LIAR, ADULTERER, PERJURER and MURDERER from the capital in DC. To sum up these shootings. In 1995 Sollog WARNED of NUKES, and he GUARANTEED a line of tragedy would appear across the US. This line indeed connects many tragic events to each other. Sollog says THESE DEATHS of innocent lives, are all angels who came to GIVE YOU A MESSAGE about NUKES. Are you listening... I'll just call this shooting Another SIGN from THE PROPHET OF HAYAH aka Sollog... Later JP Essene Editor Thee Under Ground Net DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Dangerous Times Near (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- DANGEROUS TIMES NEAR (CNNS, 04/21/99) -- The year 1999 is bound to see upheaval. This, not necessarily due to any perceived Y2K threat, but more due to a pervasive end-times psychology. We live, as they say, in "interesting times." The weather is going to get hotter. Predictions abound on Internet, but common sense will tell you that, yes, the weather is going to get hotter. Flash News: Not all Americans have air conditioning in their homes. That is a hard concept for some Americans to grasp. THEY have air conditioning so, *ipso facto*, all others have air conditioning. This news service originates from a TOWN THAT TIME FORGOT. This editor feels he ought to make local observations before all Hell breaks loose. You may have seen the movie, "Groundhog Day," starring Bill Murray. In that film, Murray enters a sort of time warp, where a Pennsylvania town he's entered does not proceed through normal "time" sequences. Instead, Murray finds himself in a town which does not age; a town seemingly unaffected by the progression of world events. Such a town is Champaign, Illinois. Example: The University library here, through much of the 1990s, had no magnetic detectors to stop any potential thieves from helping themselves to available books. In this heartland community, it was just unthinkable that "bad guys" could make their way hitherward. Remember: this situation was extant through much of the 1990s. If you yourself are not living in your own internal "time," where past and future have ceased to exist, then you can see that Champaign, Illinois lives in a Rod Serling "Twilight Zone" episode, where a John Phillips Sousa band yet plays melodies in the park on Saturday evenings. Example: Normal transportation here is by bicycle. I do mean normal. International readers of Conspiracy Nation, living in high density areas, will struggle to grasp the concept of a small city, in the midst of prairie-land, where unhurried life pokes along, peddling a bicycle in low-gear. These examples (above) are symbolic of the intellectual environment from which originate the speed-of-light, leading-edge transmittals of the Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS). But such a poke-along environment is what this editor is up against, not just here but throughout the current USA mass consciousness. Details cited above of the Champaign, Illinois LAND THAT TIME FORGOT probably appear hyperbolic to the typical, current, USA mass consciousness. But they are, by means of extreme context, a wake-up call to you, dear reader. Yes, this low-gear environment is an odd juxtaposition to you, living in your (relatively) "advanced" circumstances. But can you see that you, also, are living in your own somewhat backward land? Can you please, please see that you too live in a somewhat poke-along world, and that world events are about to make a loud KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK on your door? BLOOD HAS BEEN SPILLED. Violence against Yugoslavia serves to protect America *from its own violence*. [1] But violence, left unappeased, "will accumulate until it overflows its confines." [2]. That is why, for the moment, we can thank our lucky stars that the 15 dead Columbine High School bodies have atoned for USA violence against Yugoslavia. Their sacrifice redirects violence into "proper" channels. [3] BLOOD HAS BEEN SPILLED. In "primitive" societies, menstruating women are segregated from the community. Menstruating women *bleed*. Most primitive peoples take the utmost care to avoid contact with blood. Spilt blood of any origin... is considered impure... When men are enjoying peace and security, blood is a rare sight. When violence is unloosed, however, blood appears everywhere. [4] There is unimaginable potency in spilled blood. The Bible only hints at this potency when it states that spilled blood "cries from the ground."Put aside materialist conceptions and understand the vast occult magic unleashed when blood is spilled. WHEN VIOLENCE IS UNLOOSED, BLOOD APPEARS EVERYWHERE. The local Podunk Junction newspaper, the Champaign-Urbana News Gazette, headlines today, "The Search For 'Why.'" It bemoans that there is "no clear answer" to explain the Littleton, Colorado massacre. But there is a very obvious answer: when violence is unloosed, blood appears everywhere. This news service is not optimistic. Yet it dares to beg you, dear reader, to understand that "We've got trouble, right here in River City." All Hell, we fear, is about to break loose. It is going to get HOT. Please, please -- whether you believe in God or not -- say a prayer that the now-insane leaders of the United States will be redeemed from their madness. --- Notes ---
[CTRL] What Should I Destroy? Tractors?
-Caveat Lector- www.serbia-info.com/news F-16 pilot: What should I destroy? Tractors? April 19, 1999 Executed Albanian civilians Belgrade, April 18 (Tanjug)- Radio-TV Serbia (RTS) late Saturday ran a taped conversation between an AWACS crew and the F-16 pilot who last week targeted a column of ethnic-Albanian refugees, massacring 75 civilians. The conversation, which was followed by the massacre of refugees, went on as follows: F-16 pilot: Good day. Charlie here. I am on position 10. No movements below. Request information about red MIGs. AWACS: Charlie Bravo, Mother here. Patrol towards northwest, direction Prizren, Djakovica. No red MIGs in the air. F-16 pilot: O.K. I am going to 3,000 feet. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. You are getting a reinforcement in 10 minutes. There will be something interesting south of Djakovica. F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. I am coming out of the clouds. Still don't see anything. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. Keep on going north, course 280. F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. I maintain 3,000 feet. A column of cars, some tractors are below me. What is it? Request instructions. [INLINE] AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. Do you see tanks? Repeat, where are tanks? F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. I see tractors. I hope Reds have not camouflaged tanks into tractors. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. What kind of a strange convoy? What civilians? Hell. It's all Serbian doing. Destroy the target! F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. What shall I destroy, tractors, ordinary cars? Repeat, I see no tanks. Request further instructions. AWACS: Mother to Charlie Bravo. It is a military target. Absolutely legitimate military target. Destroy the target! Repeat, destroy the target! F-16 pilot: Charlie Bravo to Mother. Understood. Launching! At the end of the conversation, the pilot code-named Charlie Bravo launched missiles which killed 75 ethnic-Albanian refugees. [INLINE] [ Home | Encyclopedia | FactsFigures | News ] Copyright © 1998, 1999 Ministry of Information Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATO/US Ordered Civilian Massacre?
-Caveat Lector- www.serbia-info.com/news Bill Clinton demands dismissal of Wesley Clark April 18, 1999 NATO massacred the Albanian civilians on the way back to their h According to the well informed sources from the White House, Albania has many problems with the refugees form Kosovo and Metohija and their discontent with the status and position they are in. They are facing the contagious diseases and dying of the elder people. Western Alliance member-states are especially concerned with the greater influence of Ibrahim Rugova to the refugee complex, manifested openly in their wish to return to their left homes in Kosovo and Metohija, those sources say. According to the mentioned sources from the White House, the convoy of the Albanian refugees who decided to return to their homes was targeted on purpose due to the two reasons: - To make everybody clear that there will be no returning because that is not in accordance with the determined NATO strategy - To blame the Serbian military and police forces of that crime, together with the adequate media campaign The sources continue in saying that William Coen, USA defense minister asked Wesley Clark, NATO commander in Europe to personally choose a pilot who would carry out this particular order and action. As Coen says, big mistake was done, because the pilot who was to attack the refugee convoy did not do it without notice by the other pilots who took part in the military actions on Kosmet that day. The name of this pilot is kept top secret. It is known that he is a member of the Holland army, prepared and trained in the military bases of the USA. Allegedly, as the same source say, after the massacre carried out on the Albanian refugees, American President Bill Clinton demanded an immediate dismissal of Wesley Clark, but this demand of his was covered up because of the political reasons. Besides everything, NATO stays loyal to its determined goals and tasks. [INLINE] [ Home | Encyclopedia | FactsFigures | News ] Copyright © 1998, 1999 Ministry of Information Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lone Nuts Catch War Fever ?
-Caveat Lector- As to "lone nuts," good implication. Will they turn out to be Serb terrorists? Brian Redman Editor, CNNS On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- Two Gunmen Open Fire in Colo. H.S. By ROBERT WELLER .c The Associated Press LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- Two young men dressed in long, black trench coats opened fire in a suburban high school today, scattering students as gunshots ricocheted off lockers, witnesses said. At least three students were injured, one student said. There were also reports of explosions in the school, which was ringed by ambulances and police officers at lunchtime. snip April 18 -- BELGRADE (Reuters) - ... A British newspaper, the Observer, said Sunday NATO was laying plans for a ground invasion, perhaps as early as the end of May. It said 80,000 troops had been earmarked for the operation and that some American soldiers had already started training in Colorado. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Littleton Atones For America's Guilt (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- LITTLETON ATONES FOR AMERICA'S GUILT (CNNS, 04/20/99) -- "Trouble here, trouble there. There's so much trouble in the air." [1] There has been trouble in the air here in the USA, consequent to mass-murder by USA-led NATO in the former Yugoslavia. "The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground." [2] Psycholgists label this "blood crying out from the ground" as "free floating anxiety." But they do not intuit the guilt that looks for a scapegoat. A troubling sense of guilt. A scapegoat needs must be found to carry away the guilt. In "primitive" times, a goat would symbolically carry the people's collective guilt off into the wilderness. We "moderns" scorn as superstitious old-time Biblical solutions. "But the man that is will shadow the man that pretends to be." [3] "The angry god is annoyed by a guilt that is not equally shared," writes Rene Girard in *The Scapegoat*. [4] The American guilt for its sins against Yugoslavia causes unease (anxiety) here at home. Like a game of musical chairs, all Americans dread that they will be "it." The people cling to their smiley-face mask: "Oh God, not me. Let it be someone else." And so, deep down (and you know it's true), we Americans breathe a sigh of relief when students are massacred at a high school in Littleton, Colorado. The guilt will not land on you or I (until it again builds up.) It has landed on Colorado high school students. Take a moment to relax. Musical chairs has not chosen you -- this time. The youngsters of the Columbine High School have atoned for our collective sins against Yugoslavia. But take it to the bank: musical chairs music is about to start again. America's collective guilt will recommence its search for scapegoats. Don't throw away that smiley face; the blood still cries out from the ground. Learn to blend in with the herd. That (they say) is safest. Shocked? "The victim is sacred," writes Girard in another book. It is criminal to kill the victim, "but the victim is sacred only because he is to be killed." [5] The victims of the Columbine High School massacre are elevated to sainthood. We all (for the moment) breathe a sigh of relief: they have atoned for our sins. UNTIL NEXT TIME. I faintly hear musical chairs music playing, in the background. --- Notes --- [1] From old blues song. [2] Genesis 4:10 [3] "Choruses From 'The Rock'", by T.S. Eliot [4] *The Scapegoat* by Rene Girard. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1986. ISBN: 0-8018-3917-3. [5] *Violence and the Sacred* by Rene Girard. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1979. ISBN: 0-8018-2218-1. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS:
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS: EXPECT HEAVY LOSSES FROM GROUND ATTACK stratfor.com April 18, 1999 Stratfor News 1813 GMT, 990418 Ekho Moskvy radio in Moscow cited RIA-Novosti news agency reports that NATO has delivered thousands of coffins to a British military base in Cyprus today. The reports suggest NATO is preparing for a ground attack and expects heavy losses. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a371a56840da8.htm Hmmhas anyone else heard stuff about this? On PBS's "McLaughlin Group" yesterday, McLaughlin mentioned a rush order by U.S. for 38,000 coffins. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kosovo War Syndrome Likely (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "KOSOVO WAR SYNDROME" LIKELY (CNNS, 04/19/99) -- "For many years the United States has been using depleted uranium, a by-product from the production of enriched fuel for nuclear reactors and weapons, to manufacture shells, bullets and protective armour of tanks. This excess uranium, composed mainly of the uranium isotope U-238 is called 'depleted' because it has a lower than normal content of the isotope U-235, the fissionable material. But it has one very 'excellent' property; it is extremely dense and capable of penetrating heavily armored vehicles." [1] This means that a depleted uranium (DU) shell will go through a tank's armor like a hot knife through butter. That's why, since about 1990, it's become the latest craze in war. Besides dropping "cluster bombs" on Yugoslavia, NATO is also using these depleted uranium shells in its current "conflict." "The broader public is mostly uninformed about the fact that 30-millimetre ammunition fired by the GAU-8A gun mounted on the American A-10 aircraft, contains depleted uranium and that it is on the list of the ammunition which has been prohibited by the Geneva Convention, as are cluster bombs, sources in the Konghill Laboratories in Great Britain have stated..." [2] "The pointed bullet made from depleted uranium in a plastic casing which significantly increases its penetrating power, is also used in the manufacture of warheads for the 'Tomahawk' cruise missiles, which are used for the destruction of concrete facilities." [3] The explosion of these DU shells "creates uranium oxide which is dispersed into particles the size of 0.5 to 5 microns, which, if carried by the wind may be dispersed to areas hundreds of kilometres away from the site." [4] "It has also been pointed out that the life period of that substance is about one million years and that it cannot be removed from the body, exposing to radiation caused diseases and the possibility of an early death not only the people who are shot by it, but also the persons who handle that dangerous ammunition." [5] Something to think about: will your son or daughter be handling depleted uranium shells soon? Are they doing so already?? After the Vietnam War, there was a mysterious illness plaguing returning veterans; the Pentagon stonewalled for years before it finally admitted the toxic effects had been caused by Agent Orange. After the Persian Gulf War, many U.S. veterans also suffered from a mysterious illness, called Gulf War Syndrome. But Washington, DC is again stonewalling about what it is. The Project Censored 1997 Yearbook lists the link between use of depleted uranium shells during the Gulf War and the Gulf War Syndrome as one of its "Top 25 Censored Stories of 1997." [6] Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark has called for a ban on the use of DU weapons, calling them "an unacceptable threat to life, a violation of international law and an assault on human dignity." According to Clark, "Of the 697,000 U.S. troops who served in the Gulf, over 90,000 have reported medical problems. Symptoms include respiratory, liver and kidney dysfunction, memory loss, headaches, fever, low blood pressure. There are birth defects among their newborn children. DU is a leading suspect for a portion of these ailments. The effects on the population living in Iraq are far greater. Under pressure, the Pentagon has been forced to acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome, but they are still stonewalling any connection to DU." [7] "After the war in Bosnia, during which NATO also used depleted uranium ammunition in its attacks, there has been a rise in the recorded number of cases of leukemia in the areas where A-10 aircraft had been involved." [8] Since its beginning in 1942, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's metallurgical lab, the Starmet Corporation "has continued to be a leader in new materials development and innovative technology serving the global marketplace." The Starmet Corporation manufactures depleted uranium(DU) ammunition. Indeed, boasts Starmet at their web site, "Starmet's low cost DU manufacturing capabilities make it one of the leading suppliers of low cost ammunition for U.S. government weapons systems. Our anti-armor tank penetrator munitions helped bring a quick conclusion to the Desert Storm conflict." [9] Will we be seeing, in the not-too-distant future, widespread occurrences of a "Kosovo War Syndrome," secretly caused by the continued use of these depleted uranium weapons? Will our soldiers, returning from Kosovo, first be given a heroes' welcome, but then get tossed on the slag heap by actually indifferent Washington leaders? Our ill soldier-heroes of the Gulf War were
[CTRL] Crime Gangs Bared By Political Anthropology (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CRIME GANGS BARED BY POLITICAL ANTHROPOLOGY === (CNNS, 04/18/99) -- Noam Chomsky, a professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, compares USA-led NATO actions in Yugoslavia to a Mafia-like protection racket. Are USA's stated "humanitarian concerns" dubious? Chomsky responds: "If a Mafia don who runs the local branch of Murder Inc. shows some kindness to children, the humanitarian concerns don't rise to the level of 'dubious' -- and that's even more so if he shows his humanitarian concerns by kicking the kid in the face." [1] Chomsky says "credibility of NATO" is "Newspeak", comparing it to the "rep" (reputation) of a Mafia "family." "If someone doesn't pay protection money, the don has to establish 'credibility,' to make sure others don't get funny ideas about disobeying orders. So what Clinton, et al., are saying is that it's necessary to ensure that everyone has proper fear of the global enforcer," writes Professor Chomsky. [2] In other words, USA fears to be seen as a "paper tiger." Our other colonies might get funny ideas about paying up their protection money were that to happen. Continuing the Mafia analogy, Don Feder, writing in The Boston Herald, sees U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright as a high-ranking gangster: "Doing a bad imitation of Vito Corleone at Rambouillet, Albright told the Serbs she would have either their signatures or their brains on the peace accord." [3] Albright made the Serbs "an offer they can't refuse." But then the Serbs "dissed" (disrespected) *consigliere* Albright and now the Washington "family" is breaking legs. One of the Washington "button men" (killers) playfully scrawls little messages on his bombs. He writes: "Bad times. Isn't it lovely. See you guys. I'm going home, Eric N., Italy." (The serial number of that particular bomb: 30003 70 4 AS 4829 MFP 96214) "The bomb wounded farmer Slobodan Djordjevic and his sixteen-year-old daughter, who received major skull fractures and is in critical condition at the Neurosurgery Clinic of Nis." [4] The mobsters in Washington have hired extra "muscle" for their vendetta. Mob boss of bosses Bill Clinton has had a "sit down" with rival mobster Osama bin Laden. "Don" bin Laden has agreed to assist "Don" Clinton, in return for a piece of the action. American planes fly new recruits of the Kosovo Liberation Army "into Albania and Macedonia and wherefrom they are being deployed on the territory of Yugoslavia..." [5] CNN, the Criminal News Network, helps spread the word: KLA is hiring. Part of the loot which the two crime families will divvy up between them (unless the Washington crime family double-crosses the bin Laden/KLA crime family) includes the fabulous Stari (Trg) mine (gold, silver, zinc, cadmium, lead). Kosovo also has 17 billion tons of coal reserves. [6] Section 112 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. 112), according to a White House "Executive Order" dated April 13, 1999, supposedly legalizes the Balkan shoot-em-up. [7] But former mob enforcer Michael Milan would be skeptical: "I'll tell you something about law and what it means to be inside of it and outside of it. I was both at the same time and you couldn't tell one from the other. Know why? Because law is made by lawyers for lawyers. It ain't made for people. When you wanna take something that's outside the law and bring it inside the law, you simply change the law." [8] And sneak in the change, hidden deeply within the Internal Revenue Code of 1986. --- Notes --- [1] "Noam Chomsky Replies re Kosovo." From the ZNet Forum System (presumably affiliated with Z Magazine). Courtesy A-Infos News Service, http://www.ainfos.ca/ [2] Ibid. [3] "Clinton, Albright lit Kosovo's fire," by Don Feder. The Boston Herald, 4/13/99. [4] "NATO bomb with a hand-written message by a psychotic." Tanjug news wire, 4/16/99. [5] "Civilians fired by the NATO bombs." www.serbia-info.com/news 4/13/99. [6] "Below It All in Kosovo, A War's Glittering Prize," by Chris Hedges. New York Times, 7/8/98. [7] "Text of Executive Order Designating Combat Zones," U.S. Newswire 13 Apr 18:22 [8] *The Squad: The U.S. Government's Secret Alliance With Organized Crime*, by Michael Milan. New York: Shapolsky Publishers, Inc., 1989. ISBN: 0-933503-36-9. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing!
[CTRL] Skolnick: Questions About Serbia (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
SKOLNICK: QUESTIONS ABOUT SERBIA
(CNNS, 04/17/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, of the Citizens'
Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports as follows. (Contact
info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office, 773-375-5741):
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Questions About Serbia
By Sherman H. Skolnick
A large number of Serbians, citizens and resident aliens, live in
the Chicago area. The Immigration and Naturalization Service,
INS, has joined with the FBI and CIA to do dirty tricks against
them, just like the bad old days of the Civil Rights and Anti-War
Movements. Are the FBI and INS grabbing and detaining, or
deporting some of them? Are Serbian-Americans being required to
quickly show their proof of citizenship?
Albania and ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have become major drug
traffickers for Red China. The Clinton White House, soft on
drugs, is protecting the Kosova Liberation Army, KLA, the biggest
druglords in Europe. Why?
The Geneva Convention provides for humane treatment of PRISONERS
OF WAR. With no declaration of war by either side, does this
International Law apply? Are the United Nations and NATO
signatories and part of the Geneva Convention? If our pilots and
ground troops are captured, are THEY covered by the Geneva
Convention?
Some day an international tribunal may declare the U.S. as war
criminals and required to pay damages to Serbia. Great
grandchildren of present Americans may have to pay the bill to
reconstruct Serbia. Is this all a scheme to wreck the U.S.
Dollar in favor of the new European currency, the Euro Dollar?
Kosovo has one of the most lucrative mining operations in
Europe---lead, zinc, cadmium, silver, and gold. Is the war
designed so big dealers can steal this? And what about the huge
offshore oil deposits in the Adriatic? The Rockefellers, the
British, the Pope, and the Italians as well as Croatia and Serbia
all claim ownership. Do the Rockefellers and their cronies,
British Petroleum Co., want to keep this off the market to
support the worldwide price of oil?
The monopoly press as war-mongers and oil pirates do not give us
the details. If they could get away with it, they would shut
down or censor Internet, currently the only free press around.
Is the following order by President Clinton unconstitutional?
THE WHITE HOUSE, Office of the Press Secretary, For
immediate release, April 13, 1999
EXECUTIVE ORDERDESIGNATION OF FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF
YUGOSLAVIA (SERBIA/MONTENEGRO), ALBANIA, THE AIRSPACE
ABOVE, AND ADJACENT WATERS AS A COMBAT ZONE
Pursuant to the authority vested in me as President by the
Constitution and laws of the United States of America,
including section 112 of the Internal Revenue Code of
1986{26 U.S.C.112} I designate, for the purposes of that
section, the following locations, including the airspace
above such locations, as an area in which Armed Forces of
the United States are and have been engaged in combat:
--The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia(Serbia/Montenegro);
--Albania;
--the Adriatic Sea;
--the Ionian Sea north of the 39th
parallel.
For the purposes of this order, I designate March 24, 1999,
as the date of the commencement of combatant activities in
such zone.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON THE WHITE HOUSE, April 13, 1999
Is this order proper under the Constitution!? AND THE IRS CODE
AUTHORIZES THIS!? WOW! Really? Stay tuned.
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[CTRL] Humanitarian Becomes Scarey Word (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
"HUMANITARIAN" BECOMES SCAREY WORD
==
(CNNS, 04/16/99) -- Watch out when you hear, "I'm from the
government, and I'm here to help you." Likewise, a new sign of
danger is when you hear the government start saying,
"Humanitarian."
"Humanitarianism," like "patriotism," may be turning into "the
last refuge of scoundrels."
True humanitarianism, like true patriotism, is a good thing. But
just like politicians are known to pick up and kiss babies, they
also are known to wrap themselves in "patriotism" and now,
"humanitarianism."
In a press release from this news service, dated Dec. 6, 1998, we
reported on what source "Roland Rocket" (pseudonym) knew
regarding how U.S. prisoners are reacting to the perceived Y2K
threat. "Rocket", who has worked in American "correctional
facilities" (prisons) and has officer-level military sources of
his own, recently contacted us with further info.
Rocket writes, in part, that "it seems ironic that situations
like 'humanitarian' actions in Yugoslavia that are initiated to
'save lives' create tremendous paranoia and panic among the
inmate populations because they fear eradication by these same
'humanitarians' under the Hoover amendment."
The Hoover amendment, according to Rocket, was set up by J. Edgar
Hoover, long-time FBI Director, in the 1950s. Hoover was
concerned that the U.S. prison population would be likely
survivors of nuclear war, and arranged that in such a case
prisoners were to be locked down then shotgunned to death in
their prison cells.
Rocket's military sources are skeptical regarding the three U.S.
soldiers recently captured by Serb forces. The three U.S.
soldiers are reportedly Rangers, part of an elite force, yet did
not follow established procedure when they contacted their base
by radio. Soldiers in their situation are supposed to send a
"S.A.L.U.T.E. report" regarding the enemy force encountered (Size
of force, Activity, Location, Uniform, Time, Equipment).
Instead, says Rocket, they gave "less information than a
frightened housewife in a 911 call."
"All of the ex-Nam boys here don't believe the beating stuff
either," reports our source. "Look at the uniforms: no muss, no
mud, no blood. Most of the marks on their faces are made up of
residual cammo face paint."
Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the
Courts, in Chicago, is also skeptical. He has questioned the
authenticity of some photos of the three captured soldiers.
Reportedly, some photos show patch insignia on their uniforms
while other photos show no such patch insignia.
"Perhaps the most terrible thing is that so many people in and
out of the service are so desperate to believe anything but the
fact that WE are the bad guys that they are beginning to parrot
the propaganda of the White House. They really don't believe it,
but it has become a mantra oft repeated to ward off the specter
of the awful truth," adds Rocket.
Here at home, Sherman Skolnick has been reporting on intimidation
of Serb Americans and immigrant Serbs by the U.S. Immigration and
Naturalization Service (INS). To hinder Serb protests and
demonstrations against the un-Constitutional and illegal U.S.-led
aggression against Yugoslavia, Serbs in the U.S. are reportedly
being threatened with deportation and detention. INS spokeswoman
Barbara Francis denies part of the allegation. According to Ms.
Francis, under an "informal policy" no one is being deported to
Yugoslavia during the current conflict. ("No Yugoslav deportees
during airstrikes," UPI, 4/13/99.) But no such denials were
issued by Ms. Francis regarding Skolnick's and others' claims
that some too-vocal Serbs are targeted to be rounded up and
placed in detention camps, for example a detention camp in
isolated Alaska.
(Ms. Francis also, notably, calls the erupting Yugoslav war a
"conflict." The White House also sticks to this nomenclature.
The Vietnam War was also referred to as a "conflict" and not a
"war" during its initial first few years. By referring to the
Yugoslav bloodbath as a "conflict," tricky lawyer-minds thereby
hope to bypass Constitutional restrictions stating that only the
U.S. Congress can declare "war." So is it a "war" or is it a
"conflict"? That depends on what you mean by "is.")
According to the latest report from Mr. Skolnick, the FBI has now
been brought in to help intimidate Serbs here in the U.S. The FBI
is now "demonizing Serbian-Americans in general. The Bureau
planted details making it seem that certain major Serb church
officials in the U.S., such as in the Chicago area, urged their
parishioners to murder U.S. soldiers in the U.S., as a reprisal
for the U.S. murder of Serb civilians in Serbia by missile and
bomb attacks
Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Das GOAT wrote: Russia, China Warn US of Arms Race MOSCOW (AP) -- Russia and China on Wednesday warned of a new arms race if the United States goes ahead with plans to develop a nationwide defense system against limited missile attack. What ever happened to 1980s-era "Star Wars" missile defense system? I thought "Star Wars" was supposed to be an inpenetrable defense. Anyone know? Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick: Kosovo Summary (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK: KOSOVO SUMMARY (CNNS, 04/14/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports as follows. (Contact info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office, 773-375-5741): - Summary of Kosovo Stories by Sherman H. Skolnick (1) Kosovo Liberation Army are the major drug-lords in Europe, trafficking in narcotics from S.W. China, "China White", high purity heroin flooding Italy, rest of Europe, Germany (where KLA reportedly originally from) and New York and Chicago. Herr Clinton, no stranger himself to druglords, is protecting KLA druglords! (2) Oil discovered offshore in Adriatic, claimed separately and/or jointly by Rockefeller family, British Petroleum Co., the Vatican, Italy, Croatia, and Serbia, among others. Rockefellers and British Pete want to delay drilling to keep this large pool of oil, bigger than under Saudi, off the market to keep up oil prices. (3) Serbia reportedly has long-range missiles, left to them by their former patrons, the Soviets,--now get this--capable of reaching Washington, D.C. Fair is fair, right? If, without a declaration of war, we can bomb Belgrade near a hospital, surely they have the "right" to missile attack the U.S. Capitol. I take no delight or satisfaction as an American knowing this. I am not the only American appalled at our slide toward the dogs of war. (4) Federal agents, acting like the Nazi Gestapo, are apparently grabbing and detaining Serbs living quietly in the U.S. as resident aliens. That is, Serbs with "green cards". So far, no witness is ready to testify how these people are disappearing. Note: federal agencies transfer "prisoners" (legal or otherwise) through the underground facilities at the airport at Oklahoma City and several other locations including Denver. Are the green card Serbs being deported? Or sent to detention camps such as the one offshore Alaska, confirmed to me when I was on an Anchorage radio talk show with some of the construction workers who were high paid to build these camps offshore Alaska. Activists with some of the Serb organizations in Chicago have confirmed to me that something like this is happening. Of course, the monopoly press is silent on such matters. (5) Herr Clinton has numerous motives to divert attention with war or war-scares. He and the First Lady are facing federal criminal charges for embezzling 47 million dollars from Madison Guaranty Savings Loan of Little Rock, owned by Susan McDougal's ex-husband Jim who apparently was murdered in prison the night before he was to testify about related matters. (6) Clinton and the First Lady are implicated in laundering hundreds of millions of dollars of dope funds disguised as currency and soybean deals through the Chicago markets: The Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. Stay tuned. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bloodlined Breeder Women Betrayed
-Caveat Lector- BLOODLINED BREEDER WOMEN BETRAYED = (CNNS, 04/14/99) -- An article by "Judith ABR" discloses the strong possibility that "breeder women" are being exploited by criminal syndicates. [1] According to the author, she has been routinely targeted by unscrupulous persons who inseminate her, then steal her recently conceived fetus, and next implant her developing fetus into less fertile women. The claim has the ring of truth. More honest persons have been widely reported to be paying tall, high-IQ women as much as $50,000 for use of their ova. A black market in such greatly coveted ova, given economic laws of supply and demand, would be normally expected. For the less honest, just as they purchase auto parts from "chop shops," so too they'd have no qualms about ova piracy. The author says that she has learned "that my fetuses may have been 'transferred into' other women by specialized crime syndicates who could make a great deal of money farming out my ovum, utilizing advanced technologies and drugs." "With sterility rates skyrocketing... harvesting women is a very lucrative business," writes the author. There may also be a "master race," eugenics angle: "Some women appear to be 'marked' as bloodlined breeders by particular eugenics rings." For whatever reason, as in the case of pedigreed dogs, a whole group of women may be "the chosen" of amateur "master race" eugenicists. --- Notes --- [1] "Breeder-Bloodline Cults," by Judith ABR. Paranoia magazine, Spring 1999, issue 20. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Team USA vs. Yugo/Russia in Wrestle-Mania (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
TEAM USA vs. YUGO/RUSSIA IN "WRESTLE-MANIA"
===
(CNNS, 04/11/99) -- This news service sees a possible link
between the late-starting basketball season in the U.S. and the
escalating war in Yugoslavia. Sports-starved Americans are being
compensated for their winter sports-withdrawal sufferings with an
added Spring/Summer athletic contest, called "War."
This added Spring/Summer entertainment is being packaged as a
sort of Wrestle-Mania. "The NATO assault has been conducted as
though we're attacking just one individual, not an entire
population... It's the one-man theory of the nation-state. And
its effect is to eliminate both the psychological impact of
nationalism and the guilt produced by civilian causalities since
civilians don't fully exist under this theory," says Barbara
Ehrenreich, author of *Blood Rites: Origins and History of the
Passions of War*. [1] Besides "Hitler Milosevic," another
cartoon character has been added to the Wrestle-Mania scorecard,
"The Dread ARKAN." Another colorful wrestler, for now off-stage,
is "Beer-Belly Boris (Yeltsin)." (Since his name is Boris, an
off-chance is that he can be paired with a lady wrestler named
"Natasha." Maybe "Natasha" can fight it out with "Animal
Albright.")
Ehrenreich's "invisible civilians" are like the fans at a
wrestling match, in the dark mostly, but somehow adding to the
excitement. These invisible civilians, like all good sports
fans, "are all too real and united behind Milosevic like never
before," writes Arianna Huffington. [2] In America, though,
about half of our invisible civilians, according to polls, have
not yet caught the sports fever needed to ensure success for the
planned Spring/Summer entertainment.
Score one for "Hitler Milosevic," who for the moment occupies the
moral high ground due to his body-slam appeal for an Orthodox
Easter cease-fire. Sports commentator Nicholas Gage, author of a
book describing the Greek civil war, is aghast: "How can [Team
USA] not see the opportunity they are missing to show to millions
of Orthodox that their spiritual sensibilities are as honored as
the Islamic ones were during Ramadan?" [3]
Sports commentator Heather Wilson, a New Mexico congress-critter,
also gives a point to "Hitler Milosevic": "Thus far, our
strategy in the Balkans has failed to achieve our political
objectives...(and) it has accelerated the human disaster in the
Balkans," she says. [4] So, based on the judgements of Wilson
and Gage, the score now stands Yugoslavia 2, Team USA 0. This
editor believes, however, that if Bill Clinton were to don a
Superman outfit for his next press briefing, Team USA could score
a point in the ongoing contest.
However, at this point, it looks bad for Team USA. Looming from
off-stage, projecting himself into center ring, "Beer-Belly
Boris" is flexing his muscles, belching loudly, and intimating
his strength. Interviewed at ringside, Boris growled that, "I
told NATO, the Americans and the Germans: do not push us into
military action, or there will definitely be a European, and
possibly a world war." [5] ("NATO" is the mask worn by Team
USA.)
Adding to the growing excitement are comments from Alexander
Solzhenitsyn, winner of the Nobel Prize in literature. Since
fewer and fewer read books these days, Solzhenitsyn may be
pre-positioning himself for a possible job as sports commentator
when he says, "NATO has proclaimed to the whole world: 'Might is
right, those who are strong are always right.' NATO proclaimed
the ancient law that whoever is strongest is right for all the
world to hear. This is the world in which we have to live in
from now on." The bearded author, who denies being part of any
"tag team," went on to protest the "destruction of a beautiful
country in full view of humanity, while civilized governments
applaud this." [6]
Yet there *is* an emerging "tag team" (though it appears indeed
that Solzhenitsyn will more likely serve as sports commentator
than as a member of any "tag team.") "Beer-Belly Boris,"
according to a UPI report, may unite Yugoslavia, Belarus, and
Russia into a unified team. "In what could turn out to be a
stunning development of the Balkan crisis, the speaker of
Russia's State Duma says Russian President Boris Yeltsin is
seriously considering a proposal made by Yugoslav President
Slobodan Milosevic to form a full political union among Russia,
Belarus and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia." [7]. Such a
development would spell trouble for Team USA, since a
Russia/Belarus/Yugoslavia (RBY) link-up could field many more
wrestlers than now fielded by the lone Yugoslavia.
Of course, the new sport's season is young. But preliminary
[CTRL] Truth Is First Casualty Of War (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- TRUTH IS FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR == (CNNS, 04/11/99) -- At the end of the second week of NATO bombing, London's Daily Independent published an article by Philip Hammond, assessing mass media coverage of the war. Major news outlets, he wrote, "have generally been careful to keep the debate within parameters of acceptable discussion, while politicians have stepped up the demonization of the Serbs to try to drown out dissenting voices." [1] This narrowing the range of "acceptable debate" is a technique well analyzed by Noam Chomsky in a book he co-authored, "Manufacturing Consent." "Acceptable debate," in the current Yugoslav context, means "debate" over whether or not NATO -- and especially the U.S. -- should or should not commit ground troops into the region. Excluded by this narrow framework is the question of whether USA/NATO should be involved at all. Examples of excluded or barely-mentioned news, given little or no attention by the corporate mass media: ** Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov says that "NATO may be using a new type of weapon with radioactive components during the bombardment of Yugoslavia. Ivanov says measurements in several parts of Kosovo have shown high levels of radiation in both air and soil near bomb targets." [2] The A-10 "Warthog" jet "carries a GAU-8/A Avenger 30 millimeter seven-barrel cannon capable of firing 4,200 rounds per minute." [3] The Warthog cannon fires "30 mm rounds reinforced with depleted uranium, a radioactive weapon." [4] The use of these depleted uranium (DU) shells may be a major cause of the mysterious "Gulf War Syndrome," an illness suffered by many veterans of the 1990-91 Persian Gulf War. "There is solid scientific evidence that the depleted uranium residue left in Iraq is responsible for a large increase in stillbirths, children born with defects, and childhood leukemia and other cancers in the area of southern Iraq near Basra, where most of these shells were fired." [5] According to Sara Flounders, a contributing author of the book, "Metal of Dishonor: Depleted Uranium," "The use of Warthogs with DU shells threatens to make a nuclear wasteland of Kosovo. The Pentagon is laying waste to the very people--along with their children--they claim to be saving..." [6] ** A report in CounterPunch by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair tells how Amnesty International and other human rights groups have been co-opted by the U.S. State Department into cheering on the NATO bombing raids. Harold Koh, Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, reportedly persuaded leaders of the groups that the then-starting NATO bombing of Yugoslavia was a humanitarian action and that if they'd play along, they'd be compensated with a later, personal meeting with Secretary of State Madeline Albright. The entire CounterPunch story is reportedly available at www.counterpunch.com Amnesty International was previously suckered into accepting and promoting the false "Iraq's Incubator Babies" propaganda during the Persian Gulf War. ** "Kosovo refugees are throwing away U.S.-donated humanitarian rations by the thousands and have even burned some to keep warm, complaining that the food is inedible and has made people sick." [7] "We don't eat it because the children get a fever and throw up and are going to be poisoned," said one of the refugees. [8] ** Regarding the Yugoslav tinderbox, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark warns that "the potential for the conflict to spread to involve Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Croatia, Greece and Turkey is enormous. It could readily come to involve Slavs and Muslims from other regions in Asia, the Middle East and North Africa, fighting in the Balkans and on their own soil." [9] ** Demonstrators in Yugoslavia apologize that, "Sorry, we are still singing." That is a frequently seen sign carried by rock-and-roll Yugoslavians in Belgrade. They gather every day in downtown Belgrade and their morale is high. In a parody of Roberta Flack's hit record, "Killing Me Softly With His Song," a large yellow banner reads, "Killing Me Softly With This Bomb!" [10] --- Notes --- [1] Qtd. in "American Journalists Have No Reason To Be Smug," by Norman Solomon. [2] "Russia: NATO using radioactive weapons," UPI, 4/9/99. [3] "Radioactive weapons used by U.S./NATO in Kosovo." Report by International Action Center, 4/1/99. Contact: Sara Flounders or John Catalinotto, 212-633-6646. [4] Ibid. [5] Ibid. [6] Ibid. [7] "Kosovo Refugees Spurn U.S. Rations As Inedible," by Matt Spetalnick. Reuters, 4/11/99. [8] Ibid. [9] "Letter from former Attorney General Ramsey Clark to each member of the Security Council," 4/5/99. [10] "NATO Attacks On
Re: [CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Mark Pitt wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hello CTRL, I have question for any of you observing the bombing of Yugoslavia. Has anyone seen on any major media news service the full consequences of the bombing of Yugoslavia? I have only to date seen the structural damage to buildings and other types of structures being done. I have yet to see any dead bodies as in dead people in any of the stuff broadcast on T.V.. I have heard the newscatsters repeatally report that some numbers of people have been rumored to have been killed by Serbian officeals. I would bet even money they are not showing any of the dead bodies or dead people in the views of bombed out buildings and structures in order to propagandally sanitize the bombing going on over there. If the general public were allowed to view the entire consequences of the bombing over there I think they would view this very differently. There is a mass campaign to try and enlist new young recruits to all branches of the military. In my oppinion if they saw on T.V. the actual bodies of dead people as a direct result of war I seriously doubt they would enlist. I would like to hear anyones oppinion concern the topic of the medias lack of total reporting of the Bombing of Yugoslavia. They to date are only broadcasting half truths if that much. Have a great day :-) I chanced on CNN "Headline News" coverage yesterday which amazingly gave the Serb side -- but this was early afternoon on a work day (Friday) so who knows how many saw it or if it was broadcast later during prime time. The segment showed an activist group in San Francisco which had teamed with Serb Americans. A nationwide series of protests is reportedly set for April 17 here in U.S. Also shown was video smuggled out of Yugoslavia and shot by a group of activists who'd gone there to hear and report the Serb voices and what they say. Footage of destroyed civilian housing; footage of rock concert in Yugoslavia; one young woman saying, passionately, that the Serbs don't want war but they will fight for their homeland. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo and the New World Order (WND)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Peter L. Sroufe wrote: -Caveat Lector- Imposing peace would be an artifact of a fully established and empowered NWO. While the NWO is well on its way to a "final solution" for the governments of the world, they are still not yet in complete control. And that is the real "why" of this event should be looked at more closely. What seems significant to me is that it is NATO, not U.N., involved in Kosovo. That may mean a return to Cold War days and good-bye to New World Order, via U.N. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick Sees Hitler-Style Plan (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK SEES "HITLER-STYLE PLAN" = (CNNS, 04/09/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman of the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports that Serbs living in the U.S. (and even naturalized Serb-Americans) who dare to protest U.S. involvement in Yugoslavia are facing repression by the U.S. immigration authorities. (Contact info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office phone, 773-375-5741.) - The Hitler-Style Plan by Sherman H. Skolnick There are an estimated one hundred thousand to a quarter million Serbians living more or less quietly in the U.S. as alien residents. With the undeclared war of the U.S. against Serbia, is there a plan regarding such Serbians? Not mentioned in what some call the monopoly press are the presidential edicts to deal with so-called "emergencies". Blunt-talking sorts call them martial law provisions. (To mislead the public, CBS has started a series called "Martial Law".) There is a growing clamor by Serbs in the U.S. against the Clinton White House and Pentagon. In efforts to stop this, Clinton has ordered that Serbians with green cards, resident aliens, be deported as silently as possible. Apparently this original plan has been scrapped in favor of an alternative one, to send Serbians to certain detention camps, a replay of the Hitler-era. Plans to counter this, such as by federal court lawsuits might not even by publicized. Why? The monopoly press seems to be acting like under war-time orders. (For a sinister analogy, see the book "The Captive Press in the Third Reich" by Oron J. Hale.) The largest concentration of Serbs, both aliens and naturalized citizens, is in the Chicago-area. Too many federal judges, such as in the Windy City, are both tied to the banking system and are blackmailable because of ties to questionable if not criminal enterprises. So an appeal to the courts for a remedy may well be fruitless. One of the most secret detention camps is offshore Alaska, originally designed to house blacks because of racial riots. This writer had this confirmed during a radio talk show he did in Anchorage. Is that where the alien Serbs are to be sent? The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), as well as the FBI, have been told they could as well grab and detain Serbian-Americans, that is, citizens, who do not quickly supply their naturalization papers. Much of this has been confirmed by sources in the INS, and elsewhere. A cynical historian contends the calendar stating the year as 1999 is a fraud. It is, he loudly insists, actually 1938 and we are all in a time-warp. Stay tuned. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMF + Covert Intervention = War (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- IMF PLUS COVERT INTERVENTION EQUALS WAR === (CNNS, 04/08/99) -- In 1990, Germany reunified: East Germany and West Germany again became one [1]. This editor joked, at that time, "Uh oh. Here it starts again." But this editor is not laughing now. Look at a map of Europe. You'll see Germany and adjacent to Germany, to the south, Austria. Austria was part of the Roman Empire until the 5th century, when it was occupied by Germanic tribes. The area passed to the Habsburg family in 1282. In the 19th century, Austria broke away from the German empire, and formed the dual monarchy of Austria-Hungary. But Germany still viewed Austria as part of her territory, and it was annexed by Germany in 1938 (the *Anschluss*). [2] Adjacent to Austria, again, to the south, are the six republics of the former Yugoslavia. including, notably, Croatia. During World War II, the quisling Croatian government supported the Nazis. Croatia is a far-northern region in the former Yugoslavia. A reunited Reich. Austria joined to the Reich's southern border. Yugoslavia joined to Austria's southern border. "Uh oh. Here it starts again." "As early as last July, New York Times reporter Chris Hedges documented a vast influx of German marks and fresh recruits into the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army], most of it coming from Croatia." [3] Hedges, in his article, reportedly "described a new level of professional training, which he ascribed to mercenary support, among other factors." [4] An article by Workers World News Service, written a year ago, supports the existence of darker nuances lurking behind the American press magic lantern show, "Operation 'Crisis in Kosovo.'" In "Is there a CIA war in Kosovo," Gary Wilson writes, in part, that the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) "is a foreign mercenary army in the pay of the Western imperialist powers... The KLA did not exist until recently. It became active only in the last few months." Quoting a New York Times report, Wilson asserts that most members of the KLA are *Germans*! "All the funds for the mercenary army come from abroad, primarily from the United States, reported the May 26 Washington Post." [5] "Mercenary support from Croatia is an ominous sign, raising the specter of U.S. covert intervention. The Croatian military has been supported and trained by perhaps the world's largest mercenary organization, Military Professional Resources Inc., based in suburban Virginia. Headed by several retired U.S. generals, the group provided logistical support to the Croatian Army, which bombarded the city of Knin in 1995. Military Professional Resources' contract with the Croatian government was approved by the State Department. The bombardment -- and a scorched-earth military campaign -- led to the exodus of more than 200,000 Serbs from the Croatian region of Krajina, by far the largest incident of ethnic cleansing in the recent Balkan wars." [6] There is widespread disbelief regarding the claim that current NATO air attacks on Yugoslavia are motivated mainly (or at all) by "humanitarian concerns." The continuing puzzle occupying the minds of "conspiracy theorists" and other still-thinking persons is -- Since "humanitarian concerns" is just a fig leaf, then what is the real reason for NATO attacks on Yugoslavia? Even Washington, DC big shots are puzzled: "What are we doing there?" they ask. "What is the U.S. interest?" Her Ladyship Madeline Albright, U.S. Secretary of State, says she fears a domino effect, something like, "If Kosovo falls, all Europe will fall." Neither explanation, "humanitarian concerns" and "domino effect," is ultimately believable. So "what's the real reason" is the question still gnawing away in the background of the exploding Yugoslav tinderbox. The late Sean Gervasi, a U.N. diplomat and fellow at Washington's Institute for Policy Studies, noted in 1996 that "Yugoslavia is significant not just for its own position on the map, but also for the areas to which it allows access. And influential American analysts believe that it lies close to a zone of vital U.S. interests, the Black Sea-Caspian Sea region." [7] "As bombs began falling on Belgrade, they had already been falling for weeks on another country -- Iraq. Both flank the greatest pool of petroleum in the world -- the vast fields of central Asia. While those oil deposits were off-limits during the cold war, since the fall of the Soviet Union they have become the object of intense activity designed to gain control of them." [8] Yugoslavia has also "sinned" by defying the dictates of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). "Yugoslavia has remained the pariah of U.S. policy in the Balkans since the secession of Croatia, Slovenia,
[CTRL] Fake Poll Seen
-Caveat Lector- From Capitol Hill Blue, 4/7/99: The Rant I am, therefore I rant. . . The poll that wasn't They held a small celebration at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Tuesday. As celebrations go, it wasn't much of a gala, but things to celebrate have been few and far between at the House of Clinton these days. The celebration came with a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll that says a majority of Americans now support Bill Clinton's Kosovo war and would also support the use of ground troops. So there were a few high-fives and back slaps issued as the the illusion masters of the Clinton administration congratulated themselves on yet another propaganda victory. A week of televised images of Kosovo refugees had paid off. Bill Clinton now has the American public behind him. Or does he? Like Bill Clinton's Presidency, the poll released Tuesday appears to be more than it really is. The poll was conducted by Hart Research, a Democratic polling firm whose clients include many Democratic members of Congress, the AFL-CIO and a President named William Jefferson Clinton. Fred Yang, the Senior Vice President for Hart, often writes articles that offer "the Democratic perspective" on issues for magazines like Campaigns and Elections. Before the key questions were asked, those polled were told: "As you may know, hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forced to leave Kosovo." And the question on ground troops was worded to invoke emotion: "Would you favor or oppose a decision to send U.S. and NATO soldiers into Serbia if the Serbs continue to drive people out of Kosovo?" In the polling business, this is called stacking the deck, wording the questions in a way to make sure you get the answers you want. "If you want an honest poll about the actions of a Democratic president, you don't hire a pollster who works for the Democratic party. Hart is considered one of the most partisan firms around," says Dr. Ralph Bakke, a retired professor who taught demographics and polling. "You either hire an independent pollster or you hire polling firms from both sides and aggregate their results." US News World Report, for example, publishes a series of "battleground" polls that uses both Democratic and Republican pollsters. NBC and the Wall Street Journal, however, chose to go the partisan route and the results of their poll gave them just the story they wanted to trumpet in print and over the airwaves today. There are many things you can call this: Cooking the books and stacking the deck are just two. One thing you can't call this is honest journalism. --Doug Thompson Founder, Publisher Editor Capitol Hill Blue _ Want more Rant? Try Recycled Rant Want to Rant? Visit ReaderRant DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TWA 800 Trial Underway
-Caveat Lector- From Chris Ruddy's web site: Wednesday April 7, 1:25 AM FBI Loses First Round in TWA 800 Case TWA 800 defendant James Sanders was upbeat when reached by Inside Cover late Tuesday. His trial on charges of conspiracy to obtain secret evidence from the wreckage of the July 1996 air disaster was only in its second day and already presiding Judge Joanna Seybert had handed the prosecution a major defeat. "The judge quashed the illegal seizure of my computer hard drive, which is very good news for us, " Sanders said, referring to the FBI's confiscation of manuscripts which he argues should be protected by the First Ammendment. "They hadn't even bothered to get a warrant," Sanders complained. The story of Sanders' independent investigation into the still unexplained crash is told in his 1997 book, "The Downing of TWA Flight 800". As a working journalist, he obtained fabric swatches from the plane's seats and had them analyzed by a California laboratory. Their conclusion? Red stains on the material were identical in composition to missile exhaust. Despite more than a hundred eyewitnesses who told investigators they saw a streaking object strike TWA 800 that July night, the FBI and NTSB have discounted the missile theory. That's what makes Sanders' discovery of missile exhaust trace evidence so problematic for the government. Early courtroom reactions seem to favor Sanders, with several offering praise for his attorney Bruce Maffeo's opening arguments. But Wednesday's session will be key. That's when former TWA crash investigator Terry Stacey takes the stand. Stacey is now the government's key cooperating witness against Sanders and his wife Elizabeth, who is also named in the indictment. The conspiracy charge rests on the allegation that Sanders solicited Stacey to obtain the fabric samples. Elizabeth Sanders is charged on the basis of a single conversation with Stacey, during which her husband says the fabric evidence wasn't even mentioned. "Wednesday is going to be quite a day," Sanders told Inside Cover, eagerly anticipating public exposure of what may be one of the worst government cover-ups of the century. Monday April 5, 4:25 PM TWA 800 in Court The trial of TWA 800 defendants James and Elizabeth Sanders, which began Monday in a Uniondale, N.Y., federal courtroom, could produce some real fireworks -- depending upon what evidence presiding Judge Joanna Seybert lets the defense present. James Sanders, you may recall, is the journalist who accepted a piece of fabric taken from one of 800's seats by a TWA crash investigator, which contained evidence contradicting the official government theory that the July 17, 1996, disaster was accidental. Sanders' 1997 book, "The Downing of TWA Flight 800" documented his early investigative work. Unhappy with his report, the Justice Department has put Sanders on trial for interfering with the official FBI-NTSB investigation. Cmdr. William Donaldson, whose two-year-long crusade for the truth has made him the premier expert on the 800 disaster, has signed on as a defense team consultant. Friday, Donaldson told Inside Cover that the evidence he's uncovered suggests wrongdoing that reaches to the highest levels of the White House. Should Judge Seybert take an interest in the larger story of how 230 souls perished off Moriches Beach that July night, this trial could get a whole lot more intriguing than current media non-coverage would indicate. Both Sanders and Donaldson have promised to keep NewsMax.com apprised of daily trial developments. Stay tuned. Monday April 5, 7:16 AM White House Doves Turn to Hillary The Clinton White House was so divided over the president's plan to bomb the Balkans that administration doves hoped Hillary would intercede. That's the word from longtime Clinton nemesis Larry Nichols, who seems to have developed a reliable White House source for the latest on the Kosovo crisis. For instance, Nichols knew that Clinton's war on Slobodan Milosevic would commence precisely on March 24 -- and said so up and down the radio dial nearly a week before it happened. And now, other events Nichols described to Inside Cover early
[CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "MISSION CREEP," "STEALTH WAR," SEEN (CNNS, 04/07/99) -- "Creeping gradualism" is the typical U.S. *modus operandi*. For example: the constant whittling away of civil liberties here in the U.S., under the guise of the failed "War on Drugs." Some compare this tactic of creeping gradualism to frogs being slowly boiled: if you drop a frog into boiling water, the frog will jump out; but if you put the frog in water and gradually raise the heat, the frog will be boiled alive. The key to sneaky success in planned operations, knows Washington, DC, is to be gradual about it. So it is significant that a press release from the Serb Unity Congress warns that This is war by stealth. The Congress and American people are being led along a series of incremental steps to a final fait accompli of war. This does grave damage to the U.S. constitution which vests authority to declare war in Congress and Congress alone. [1] First there's bombs and missiles only. Then there's Apache Attack Helicopters. Then you need a few "observers" on the ground. (Promises Bill Clinton: "They are there acting only as observers.") A few observers here, a few observers there, and before you know it we're talking about real war. In Vietnam, in the early 1960s, it began much the same: with a small number of "observers." Back then, the propaganda was that we were in Vietnam to prevent a "domino effect." Supposedly, if Vietnam went communist that would lead to all of Southeast Asia falling into the communist camp; the surrounding countries would fall like dominoes. (But then-Secretary of Defense Bob McNamara later admitted that, by the mid-to-late 1960s, U.S. leaders were no longer sure why exactly we were at war in Vietnam.) It's "deja vu all over again." Secretary of State Madeline Albright says that if we lose Kosovo, instability will spread throughout Europe. Pentagon brass are critical. They have "challenged the 'domino theory' put forth by Secretary of State Madeleine Albright..." [2] According to Arianna Huffington, Her Ladyship Albright is the spiritual patron of the escalating international war in Yugoslavia. "The Balkans have always been Albright's special project," says Huffington. "Everyone in Albright's circle is very conscious of how anxious she has been to have a victory to call her own. Instead, she now has a calamity to call her own." Albright's fanatical tenacity caused her to disregard warnings from the CIA about the terrible repercussions likely to follow the implementation of her bombing mania, writes Huffington. "So blinkered was her vision that all warnings by the CIA about Serbian retaliations were ignored." [3] Privately, the U.S. government remains deeply divided over the wisdom of U.S. attacks on Yugoslavia. Several reports, including one by the Washington Post, indicate that the U.S. military has serious misgivings. But they, under the military code, are hinderedfromspeakingoutopenlyagainsttheir Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton. And politicians skeptical about U.S. involvement in the Balkan tinderbox mostly adhere to the truism that "politics should stop at the water's edge." But, reports UPI, many in Congress "remain leery." [4] "The President is standing alone on a lot of this... He's finding fewer and fewer people who are willing to stick with him over Kosovo. He's backed himself, his administration and his country into a corner," reportedly says one White House aide. [5] Internationally, many countries are also leery. "Lebanon's Prime Minister Selim Hoss says the mass exodus from Kosovo is clear proof of the failure of NATO's military operations against Yugoslavia." [6] Israel's foreign minister worries about the threat of a Moslem state of Kosovo. [7] Greece and Italy have urged a cease fire. Darker nuances associated with the Balkan Blow-up hint that the growing disaster comes from yet another CIA project gone awry. In Zaire, in late-1960, the CIA engineered the murder of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba. Lumumba was replaced by the CIA-friendly Joseph Mobutu. "The lure of [Zaire's] vast mineral resources led the CIA into a marriage of convenience with him" [8]. But not all CIA covert projects have such "happy endings." The CIA's man in Panama, Manuel Noriega, got along quite well with the U.S. ruling class, for years. But when Noriega began to defy Washington's anti-Sandinista mandate, the USA mass media went into high-gear and Noriega became an instant demon. This propaganda saturation by the USA mass media was the prelude to U.S. invasion of Panama and the kidnapping of Noriega. [9] According to Sherman Skolnick, head of the public interest research group, Citizens'
[CTRL] Serbs Beat Their Dogs! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SERBS BEAT THEIR DOGS! == (CNNS, 04/05/99) -- This just in, from the Compromised News Network (CNN): JUDY WOODCHUCK: Christiane Aimpoor is standing by, at our Hollywood studio... er, I mean, on the Yugoslav/Albania border. Come in Christiane. Are you there? CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: Yes, Judy. I'm standing here at the Yugoslav border, in Albania, in Europe, across the Atlantic Ocean from where you are. The refugees have been telling me some whopping good stories, about Serbs beating their dogs. You, sir, have you got a minute? GRIZZLED REFUGEE: Why, yes, Ms. Aimpoor. CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: What have the dirty Serbs been doing in Yugoslavia? GRIZZLED REFUGEE: Why, uh... Many bad, bad things. CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: Have they been beating their dogs? GRIZZLED REFUGEE: Beating their dogs? . Oh, yes! Beating their dogs! Oh, it's been bad. The poor dogs, beaten bad by these Serbs. CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: Thank you. We have some video now, snuck out to us from the studio... I mean from Yugoslavia, showing some mighty sad, mournful faces of several canines, staring into the camera. (Footage from a kennel in Los Angeles.) CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: The Serbs (of course) are denying these latest outrages. However (Shady-looking Iranian appears in the background.) IRANIAN: Psst Ms. Aimpoor. Here is the $1 million from my government for your "advocacy journalism." CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: (Hisses) Not here, you idiot! Give that money to my husband, James Rubin, at the State Department! (Shady-looking Iranian slinks away.) JUDY WOODCHUCK: Christiane? Christiane? Who was that man you were whispering to? CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: Sorry, Judy. That man was a refugee, demented from seeing the Serbs beating their dogs. JUDY WOODCHUCK: Yes, yes. It's shocking. We have to go live now, to the Pentagon, where their spokeperson will give us an honest picture of what's going on. Any final words, Christiane? CHRISTIANE AIMPOOR: Tell my husband, if some money happens to be handed to him, to put it in a Swiss bank, in my name. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] some little-discussed details of Kosovo mess (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Latest from Sherman Skolnick: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:23:40 -0700 From: Sherman Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: some little-discussed details of Kosovo mess Here are some details from a much longer article by Sherman H. Skolnick on how the faceless dictators are promoting the New World Order by smashing up nations and destroying sovereignty,with Yugoslavia as an example: (1) There is strong reason to believe Milosevic was installed in the late 1980s by the American CIA. Like other Frankenstein's monsters, he appears to turn on his creators while he appeals to the nationalistic aspirations of his constituents. The average person in the U.S. does not know this. (2) Drug enforcement authorities worldwide are fully aware that the Kosovo Liberation Army are not, as some depict them, sweet, nice "freedom fighters" but rather are a vicious gang of druglords. They traffic in dope for the Red Chinese, pushing through out Europe "China White" high purity heroin preferred by junkies who can smoke instead of using a needle. (3) Notice, Albania is a puppet client state of Red China. (I have a book of the speeches of Albania long-time dictator Gen. Enver Hoxha how he praises China.) Albania has been pro-China all the way back to Marco Polo. (4) The K.L.A. are ethnic ALbanians that wish either to separate from Serbia or annex Kosovo to the drug-haven of Albania. (5) The overthrow of Yugoslavia as a nation in 1989, to promote the downfall of nationhood and sovereignty, was arranged by Henry Kissinger Associates with the help of super money laundry expert Vincent W. Foster, Jr. The attack on the Yugoslav banks and their currency was aided by Foster, with the help of his law partner cronies Hillary Rodham Clinton and Webster Hubbell. The three of them were reportedly strategists for Systematics a reputed proprietary operation of the super secret National Security Agency. (The 700 pages about NSA and Foster, released under Freedom of Information request, tend to support this.) Systematics has been a bank computer software services firm which reportedly spied on banks, friend and foe, worldwide. Was this an additional motive for the strange death of Foster, afew months after he became Clinton White House deputy counsel? Was his death really "suicide" or murder? Clinton, owned by the Red Chinese, is protecting the pro-China druglords of Kosovo and Albania. This puts a different light on the whole Kosovo affair. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skolnick Now On Internet
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- From: sherman skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] sherman skolnick has recently signed up for a free, new email account from Netscape WebMail by USA.NET. You can now reach sherman skolnick at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at advertising deleted Hey, can I start selling conservative suppositories here now? Yeah, sorry, I should have deleted the extra stuff. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Moves Into Yuppie Foxhole (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
U.S. MOVES INTO "YUPPIE FOXHOLE"
(CNNS, 04/04/99) -- An Op-Ed column in today's New York Times
calls the growing Yugoslav crisis a "Yuppie Foxhole." [1]
Maureen Dowd, author of the column, notes in part that "Yuppies
are going to war. The most self-indulgent generation in history
is being asked to sacrifice by the most self-indulgent Commander
in Chief in history." [2]
Dowd sounds the alarm: "The moment we've been dreading has
arrived. Put down that Restoration Hardware penguin cocktail
shaker. Climb out of that Pottery Barn French Deco leather club
chair. Finish up that echinacea-flavored focaccia." [3]
Arise, Ye Yuppie People!
But like before, during the Vietnam War, the Yuppie class and
their spawn aren't likely to shiver in any foxholes. They will
experience the hardships vicariously, via cable TV.
As in previous U.S.-sponsored aggressions, "The first casualty of
war is Truth." Who really blew up the U.S.S. Maine and thereby
"justified" the American invasion of Cuba? Who spread the
hysterical "Rape of the Belgian Nuns" lie which helped send U.S.
doughboys to their deaths? Why did the U.S. government sit back
and allow Pearl Harbor, when they had advance warning of the
Japanese attack? How is it that U.S. mass media got suckered
into the "Iraq incubator babies" story?
Most of all, why do so many Americans not question the
credibility of U.S. mainstream news reports concerning the
present situation in Yugoslavia?
This news service has received some angry e-mails from readers,
calling CNNS "murderers" for our skepticism regarding simplistic
demonizing portrayals of the Serbs. Maybe, like Eugene Debs, who
tried to keep American boys out of the World War I
slaughterhouse, this editor will suffer for expressing doubts
about the wisdom of U.S. involvement. Oh well
Some news items you may have missed:
(1) In a previous report by this news service, it was speculated
that a pretext for sending NATO ground troops into the Kosovo
quagmire might be fake reports that "Serbs Beat Their Dogs!" A
new aspect on this may be, "Serbs Murder Zoo Animals!" A Reuters
report now says that the director of the Belgrade Zoo states that
"his staff would be forced to shoot and kill all its dangerous
animals to keep them from escaping into the streets if NATO bombs
fell on the capital." [4]
(2) Mexico, our "NAFTA Neighbor," condemns the NATO bombing:
"Mexico's state-run news agency, Notimex, published an editorial
yesterday (Mar. 31) accusing NATO of violating international law
with its air strikes on Yugoslavia." [5]
(3) In previous CNNS reports, it has been asked, "How much $$$ is
this costing?" The money being spent and to be spent on the
emerging Yuppie War in Yugoslavia is almost never mentioned in
the U.S. mass media. This editor has yet to see *any* discussion
of the financial aspect, by the mainstream U.S. media. But a
report by Agence France-Presse (AFP) puts the cost thus far as
$500 million dollars. "Extended intervention could cost the
United States billions more," adds AFP [6]
(4) In Rome, 80 THOUSAND demonstrators "took to the streets of
Rome Saturday against NATO bombings of Yugoslavia in response to
a call for protest issued by Italian political parties, trade
unions and peace groups." [7]
(5) The Boston Globe reports on "a new menace stalking Europe."
The leaders of this new menace "espouse the geopolitical ideas of
Nazism and the tactics of Hitler." And what is the name of this
new evil?A-m-e-r-i-c-a is its name, according to an
"increasingly popular view shared by people in a wide swath of
the planet stretching from Russia's Pacific coast to the Balkans,
where NATO's airstrikes against Yugoslavia have set off a
virulent anti-American backlash." [8]
(6) A recent antiwar concert in Greece brought together 60,000
people: "President Clinton was compared in posters to Hitler;
NATO was spelled out as 'Nazi American Terrorist Organization';
and posters warned of 'a new Vietnam' in Europe." [9]
(7) There is SNAFU ("Situation Normal: All Fu**ed Up"). There
is TACFU ("Totally And Completely Fu**ed Up"). But the highest
level of screw-up is designated, by irate military personnel,
FUBAR ("Fu**ed Up Beyond All Repair"). Referring to the growing
Yugoslav debacle, Arnold Crittendon, a retired intelligence
analyst, says, "It was ill conceived, poorly executed and fatally
flawed. The boys at the Pentagon tell me that the amateurs at
the White House rammed this thing down their throats and they are
choking on it." [10] In other words, the NATO Yugoslav operation
is FUBAR, according to U.S. military brass who are not allowed to
openly criticize Bill Clinton, their Commander-in-Chief.
(8) According to Lawrence S. Eagleburger, former U.S. Secretary
of
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Liz Schumacher wrote: -Caveat Lector- THEN, he took a quart of OJ's blood and dumped it all over the Brown place. yeah, sure liz Articles by Sherman Skolnick and myself on the OJ Simpson case are archived at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html I'll try to dig some of them up and pass them along. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Video of Brown/Goldman Murders?
-Caveat Lector-
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 12 Num. 03
===
("Quid coniuratio est?")
-
SECRETS OF THE L.A. RIOTS -- PART IV
[Editor's note: Fred Celeni (pronounced suh-LAN-ee) worked as a
federal intelligence agent, he says, for the office of U.S.
Congressman John D. Dingell. Celeni was interviewed for public
access television in Los Angeles, and that interview was later
re-broadcast on Sherman Skolnick's televisionprogram,
"Broadsides," in Chicago. Following is my own abbreviated
transcript of Celeni's remarks. (Possible spelling errors exist
and are not noted.)]
[...continued...]
INTERVIEWER [continues]: We have another interesting situation.
In August of 1994, you got a call from your old friend and
cohort, Nathan Arnold, Jr. What did he tell you?
FRED CELENI: He said that he needed some advice. I said, "Why?"
He said that a couple of months ago they had been involved in a
situation where Mark Fuhrman had gone off. I said, "What do you
mean?" He said, "The same thing as McCullough." And I started
laughing. And I said, "I hope you didn't leave your fingerprint
on the door knob again." (Because during this McCullough murder,
they left their fingerprint on the latch that shuts the lock on
the front door.)
INTERVIEWER: Tell us some details about that McCullough murder.
FRED CELENI: The McCullough murder was an intelligence operation
for narcotics. These guys were involved: Mark Fuhrman, Tom
Lange, and Nathan Arnold, Jr. During the course of an
interrogation of an old woman in Santa Monica, it got out of
control. And this old woman had her head cut off, with a knife.
And this knife was a very large Bowie knife. And Mr. Arnold was
well-known for carrying this Bowie knife.
If you look at the murder book (a murder book is a file, with
all the pictures and information of a homicide) of the McCullough
murder, and take a look at the murder book of Nicole Simpson, you
can switch the photographs and it will be the same murder.
INTERVIEWER: Did Arnold ever admit to you that he had killed
Nicole Simpson?
FRED CELENI: Yes, he did.
INTERVIEWER: What else did he tell you?
FRED CELENI: He indicated that they were following up on
information for a woman named Faye Resnick. And Faye Resnick had
been arrested in Las Vegas about a year before, by the Metro Task
Force there along with the DEA. Possession of cocaine and
possession of hashish.
INTERVIEWER: Was Faye Resnick a renowned sniffer?
FRED CELENI: Faye Resnick is a renowned freak. She sniffs
cocaine; she sniffs dirty underwear. She sleeps with boys,
girls, dogs, farm animals. Faye Resnick is a very strange piece
of work. And that's a well-known fact.
-+- Video of the Ron Nicole Murder -+-
And that evening, they had gone over to the house; there were
four people: Tom Lange, Mark Fuhrman, Nathan Arnold, Jr., and
another man, in a truck.
Now the truck that they used was a Bronco truck. The
difference is that it didn't have a tire pit on the back. But
what happened was, in the course of the investigation, Nicole got
out of hand. Her dress was pulled down (she was wearing a
slip/nightie kind of dress), and some words got said. She said
to Nathan Arnold, "You niggers like to see white women's tits."
He slapped her. She fell back, onto a couch. And just as he
went for her, they got a call on the radio that said that someone
was coming in the front gate. And Mr. Lange was waiting outside.
Mr. Fuhrman and Nathan Arnold were inside.
They then proceeded out of the house. At this point, as they
come out the front door, the truck has a dash-mounted video
camera. And you can see on the tape (it's in black-and-white;
there's no sound), you see her start down the steps. He's
standing behind her, holding his arm around her.
INTERVIEWER: Nathan Arnold's holding Nicole?
FRED CELENI: Correct.
And they go down the steps and disappear behind a bush or a
tree.
INTERVIEWER: You've =seen= the video?
FRED CELENI: I've seen it on one occasion.
What happened was, you see a scuffle. You can see a bald(?)
individual because the light from the windows is hitting his
head. And he's fighting with somebody. You can't tell who that
somebody is...
INTERVIEWER: You've got to presume it's Ron Goldman.
FRED CELENI: You have to presume that.
And this individual goes down. You then see Mr. Arnold come
back and take her by the hair, and pull her and slice her.
INTERVIEWER: Is Goldman killed first?
FRED CELENI: Mr. Goldman died first.
INTERVIEWER: Who killed him?
FRED CELENI: Well the estimation, if you watch the tape, is that
it was Tom Lange and Nathan Arnold. My
[CTRL] Skolnick: New vs. Old World Order
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: 3 Apr 99 11:58:23 PST From: sherman skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: part of story-New World Order vs.Old World Order The largest Croatian and Serbian population in the Western world is in Chicago. Starting in the 1970s, the American CIA began a series of so-called "terrorist" events, centered in the Windy City, agitating for some kind of equal rights for Croatians and for Serbians in the Balkans homeland. Inany case, these happenings generated news coverage. Bombings and shootings in Chicago became an every day event, in or near the Serb and Croat portions of Chicago, known as South Chicago. In one event, an airplane was hi-jacked from O'Hare Airport, supposedly for Europe. Negotiator for Croats was a former federal prosecutor close to CIA. Also, the editor of the Serbian newspaper in Chicago was assassinated in his office. A Serb activist died when his car somehow fell off a bridge into the Chicago River. The strategist for the Serbian Eastern Orthdox Church, headquartered in suburban Libertyville, was none other than Albert Jenner, Jr., previously part of the Warren Commission that proclaimed that a "lone assassin", not the CIA, assassinated President Kennedy. Wow! A coincidence? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Predicted *Causa Belli* Appears (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
PREDICTED *CAUSA BELLI* APPEARS
===
(CNNS, 04/01/99) -- On March 25, 1999, this news service posted
to Internet the following prediction:
Phase 2 of the Kosovo *causa belli* may be a staged event
of Serb troops supposedly crossing over into Macedonia.
Such a staged event would "excuse" NATO troops, now massed
in Macedonia, for invading Kosovo. [1]
*Causa belli* means "pretext for war." The CNNS prediction of
March 25, 1999, was repeated by this news service in a subsequent
press release, dated March 29, 1999:
Significantly, the NYTimes article which is shocked --
shocked! -- by the danger of dishonest news outlets also
discloses that the Serbs fear NATO troops in Macedonia will
soon provoke border incidents as pretext for a planned
invasion by NATO ground troops. [2]
NYTimes quotes a Serb news anchor, as follows:
"Our sources report," the anchor said in the same
evening news broadcast, "that in addition to 2,400
NATO soldiers stationed in Macedonia, 1,800 U.S.
soldiers have just arrived. NATO plans to use these
forces to provoke border incidents and stage an
alleged Yugoslav attack on Macedonia, which would be
used as a pretext for sending NATO ground forces into
Yugoslavia." [3]
Today, April 1, 1999 (of all days, "April Fools Day"), reports
are extensive on the unfortunate capture of three U.S. soldiers
serving under the auspices of an offensive NATO force.
Please pause a moment, in the flurry of news from the troubled
Yugoslav region, to make note of how predictably the scenario has
unfolded.
On March 29, 1999, this news service published a report by
Sherman H. Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the
Courts, a highly-regarded public interest research group, warning
that U.S. soldiers operating under NATO command may not be
protected by the Geneva Convention:
Of more immediate concern is the fact that the Geneva
Convention, ratified during the 1920s, does not apparently
cover military personnel operating under the auspices of
the *ex post facto* NATO. Since NATO did not exist during
the 1920s, pilots shot down over Yugoslavia may not be
sheltered by the Geneva Convention. In such a case, they
could be subject to torture and execution by the Serbs.
[4]
Today, April 1, 1999 ("April Fools Day"), reports have appeared
via mainstream USA news outlets loudly decrying the Serbs lest
they violate supposedly operant Geneva Convention protections.
The fact that the predicted scenario is unfolding on April Fools
Day has a double significance: (1) it muddies the issue: this
report by CNNS is not to be taken in any way, shape or form as
any sort of April Fools joke. The previous CNNS reports which
have predicted the unfolding scenario are all archived and can be
proven to have appeared days before current events. (2) it is
symbolic, in a major way, that the predicted NATO *causa belli*,
prelude to insertion of NATO ground troops into Yugoslavia,
enters the public consciousness on this day, April 1, 1999.
It is awkward for an American news service, which strongly wishes
for our young soldiers to be safe, to report on these
circumstances. Nonetheless, it must be pointed out that we are
being lied to by our government and their lies are aided and
abetted by the mainstream U.S. mass media. Does the cause of
Truth supersede national boundaries? Let's hope so.
--- Notes ---
[1] "Kosovo Drugs Target 'Christian Infidels.'" CNNS, 03/25/99.
Archived at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html
[2] "Guess Next Pretext," CNNS, 3/29/99.Archived at
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html
[3] "Serbia Uses TV to Attack NATO Policy," by New York Times.
Published at San Jose Mercury News web site, 3/28/99. Qtd. in
"Guess NextPretext." CNNS,3/29/99.Archived at
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html
[4] "White House Sends 'Melissa Virus?'" CNNS, 3/29/99. Archived
at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html
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[CTRL] Backfire in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- By Ariana Huffington: Backfire In Kosovo Filed March 29, 1999 ``Today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought.'' These words, uttered 35 years ago in ``Dr. Strangelove,'' apply with a vengeance to President Clinton and his Kosovo team. If there had been any strategic thought behind the decision to bomb Serbia, it is hard to detect. The principal rationale put forward by the president to justify military action -- ``to deter an even bloodier offensive against innocent civilians in Kosovo'' -- can already be declared an abject failure. Not only has the bombing failed to deter Milosevic, it has led to the bloodiest offensive yet against innocent civilians: summary executions, torched villages, young men rounded up in concentration camps, thousands used as human shields in munitions factories and tens of thousands driven out of Kosovo in forced marches. With journalists, observers of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and representatives of humanitarian agencies all gone, Milosevic has a license to kill and attempt to empty the province of ethnic Albanians. The NATO offensive -- the largest air war in Europe since 1945 -- has turned a war criminal into Serbia's fearless protector and eliminated any internal opposition. All these tragic outcomes had been anticipated by our intelligence forces but ignored by the administration, which also stood the Powell doctrine on its head. Developed by Colin Powell as a result of his experience in Vietnam, it asserted that any military action must be fought with a clear exit strategy and with all available means, or not at all. It appears to have been replaced by the Albright-Berger doctrine: Drop the bombs and cross your fingers that they force the enemy to the bargaining table. ``This is a policy,'' NBC military analyst Dan Goure told me, ``that has failed spectacularly in Iraq, where bombing has alternated with callous neglect. And now we are bombing Milosevic to get him to sign the Rambouillet agreement, which was really a set-up. Did anyone really believe the Serbians would accept the de facto independence of Kosovo?'' Every explanation offered last week for the bombing exploded over the weekend. ``Our mission is clear,'' the president said. ``To demonstrate the seriousness of NATO's purpose.'' But NATO has never looked less serious and more at odds with its purpose, which has always been defensive in nature. As for the president's claim that the military action was necessary ``to build an alliance with Europe for the 21st century,'' this alliance is being severely tested as a direct result of the bombings -- with Italy and Greece questioning the continuation of air raids and anti-American demonstrations throughout Europe. And with Russia siding with Milosevic, Mikhail Gorbachev for one believes that ``we are sliding toward a new Cold War.'' In light of all that has followed our military action, Madeleine Albright's claim that ``our own economic prosperity and security'' are at stake in Kosovo rings both ludicrous and desperate. But the secretary of State was only dutifully echoing the president, who earlier in the week at a Washington fund-raiser tried to turn the air raids into a pocketbook issue, speaking of the ``direct personal benefits to Americans.'' During his address to the nation two days later, the president tried altruism instead, appealing to humanitarian moral imperatives. It was hard to see, though, why Kosovo was more of a moral imperative than Rwanda, where 500,000 people were massacred, or Chechnya, where 80,000 were killed, or Algeria (60,000), or Turkey (30,000). And the president's policy of both engaging and toasting the butchers of Beijing has not been in the slightest affected by the humanitarian consideration of more than a million human beings dying in Tibet from starvation, torture and execution. So it is not surprising that even the supporters of military action in Serbia have a hard time articulating why we are there. ``Congress and the American people,'' said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), ``have good reason to fear that we are heading toward another permanent garrison of Americans in a Balkan country where our mission is confused and our exit strategy is a complete mystery.'' There is something seriously wrong when senators who know the most about war have to hold their noses and shut their eyes before they can vote to support the air strikes. And there is something truly bizarre
[CTRL] (fwd) $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Path: firefly!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!str-ccsun!singer.cent.gla.ac.uk!usenet From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph C Hunter) Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.guns Subject: $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:10:07 +0100 Organization: God Squad Lines: 16 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NNTP-Posting-Host: paama.dcs.gla.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v2.00 Xref: firefly alt.activism:462678 talk.politics.guns:889848 "A US F117 aircraft has been shot down over Yugoslavia. The aircraft was hit by small arms fire from local militia causing a fire on board and rendering it's much vaunted 'stealth' technology useless. The subsequent high IR-signature was then locked onto by a missile battery with fired off a single SA6 anti-aircraft missile. The missile struck the target and the aircraft crashed in flames some 20 miles from Belgrade. The pilot managed to bail out and was rescued within hours by NATO forces." Anyone who doubts the effectiveness of firearms in the hands of the citizenry to wage war on a well armed military should think again. Strike one for RKBA. Joe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Guess Next Pretext (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- GUESS NEXT PRETEXT == (CNNS, 03/29/99) -- The pretext, the *causa belli* used as trigger for current NATO airstrikes against Yugoslavia, was the fake "Racak massacre." But a new pretext will be needed to justify the already planned insertion of ground troops into the region. What will the next Serb "outrage," "atrocity," etc. be? Peddling whatever the next Serb "horror story" is will be the U.S. mainstream media, especially television. In Yugoslavia itself, ironically, New York Times now warns that the Yugoslav government has "harnessed" Serb TV and turned it into a propaganda venue. But the Serb people are not fooled, says NYTimes. One savvy Serb is quoted as saying, "We follow Serbian television to see what the latest lies are and we turn to the Internet to find the truth." [1] See? The Serbs aren't so different from us here in the USA! We here in America also follow the U.S. television to see what the latest lies are and we turn to the Internet to find the truth! Significantly, the NYTimes article which is shocked -- shocked! -- by the danger of dishonest news outlets also discloses that the Serbs fear NATO troops in Macedonia will soon provoke border incidents as pretext for a planned invasion by NATO ground troops. NYTimes quotes a Serb news anchor, as follows: "Our sources report," the anchor said in the same evening news broadcast, "that in addition to 2,400 NATO soldiers stationed in Macedonia, 1,800 U.S. soldiers have just arrived. NATO plans to use these forces to provoke border incidents and stage an alleged Yugoslav attack on Macedonia, which would be used as a pretext for sending NATO ground forces into Yugoslavia." [2] This report by Serb TV, courtesy of the ever-vigilant NYTimes, corroborates an earlier report by this news service: Phase 2 of the Kosovo *causa belli* may be a staged event of Serb troops supposedly crossing over into Macedonia. Such a staged event would "excuse" NATO troops, now massed in Macedonia, for invading Kosovo. [3] But what if, now that the "border incidents" pretext is foreseen, the Master Planners decide they must invent a new, different *causa belli*? What other Serb "outrages," "atrocities," and "horror stories" might the creative minds at War Planning Central dream up? Here are some possibilities. Bear in mind that none of the following have yet occurred, nor are they likely to occur except in the imaginative minds of War Planning Central: (1) Serbs Beat Their Dogs! Video of "Serbs" (really actors) cruelly beating their dogs. Plenty of video of sad, hurt, lovable dogs, staring woefully into the camera. (2) Serbs Ignore Child Trapped In Well! Reports of a 5-year-old Albanian girl trapped in a well, and that the Serbs aren't bothering to rescue her. Her "mother" (really an actress) cries her eyes out on-camera. (3) Milosevic Rapes Hillary! TV "news" broadcasts that Slobodan Milosevic, incensed by reports of Bill Clinton's rape of Juanita Broderick, helicoptered to Egypt with elite forces, kidnapped Hillary Clinton, and raped her. (4) Serb Women Rape Kosovo Men! Serb women set up "rape camps" and sexually molest captured Kosovo Liberation Army troops. (5) Serbs Pluck Out Eyes of Kosovo Civilians! Reports that Serb soldiers are removing the eyeballs of Muslim Kosovars and selling these human organs to Moscow, in exchange for weapons. Of course, it's hard to guess what the next "whopper" being told, straight-faced and serious, by U.S. television newsfaces, will be. After all, few of us are as imaginative as some American journalists. But watch for the upcoming major "horror story" which will put U.S. soldiers in harms way. --- Notes --- [1] "Serbia Uses TV to Attack NATO Policy," by New York Times. Published at San Jose Mercury News web site, 3/28/99. [2] Ibid. [3] "Kosovo Drugs Target 'Christian Infidels.'" CNNS, 3/25/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to
[CTRL] Lyin' King Leads Vietnam II
-Caveat Lector-
LYIN' KING LEADS VIETNAM II
===
(CNNS, 03/28/99) -- Bill Clinton, "The Lyin' King," leads us now
into the Kosovo quagmire, called by some the beginning of World
War III, and at least a potential Vietnam War Part 2.
Appearing as a guest panelist on PBS's "McLaughlin Group,"
Danielle Sremic, an expert on Balkan affairs, predicted that,
indeed, Kosovo will turn into a second Vietnam.
As research yields actual facts, the nonsensical nature of the
Spring fireworks display in Yugoslavia is emerging. Reluctantly,
even a few mainstream media voices are timidly asking serious
questions. For example, on ABC's Sunday morning "This Week"
program, it was asked: "If Slobodan Milosevic is Hitler, will we
be negotiating with him at some point?" [1]
It's hard, after all, to negotiate with "Hitler." And since
several experts are now saying the Serbs will never surrender
unless NATO ground troops are deployed into Kosovo, then either
Milosevic is not really "Hitler" or the escalating conflict is
going to get VERY bloody.
Says Richard Jaehne, former commander of the NATO operations
school in Europe, "We're in for a long conflict whatever we're
going to do. It's not going to be quick, it's not going to be
easy, and it's not going to be cheap." [2]
Jaehne says it's not going to be cheap, which means it will cost
lives and money. And even still, days after the bombing blitz,
nary a word in mainstream media outlets on how much $$$ it is
costing and will cost.
Some say whatever millions and billions of dollars are being
spent on the boom-booms falling now on Yugoslavia would be better
spent on easing the plight of the homeless in America. Not
understood, though, is that these USA homeless are necessary to
prop up the real estate bubble: were there less-desperate demand
for affordable housing, due to a greater supply of same, the
inflated real estate market would collapse. And that's not good
for landlords.
As usual, independent reporters on the Internet are providing the
most accurate coverage of what is really going on. Thanks to
their help, CNNS can now piece together the following:
(1) Mike Wallace of CBS, notorious already for his fake reports
on the death of Vince Foster, promotes propaganda regarding "Serb
Rape Camps." The History Channel broadcast a program recently,
hosted by Wallace, where the "Rape Camps" story was pushed off
onto viewers. Supposedly, the Serb soldiers had been massively
raping Bosnian women who were their prisoners, and that age made
no difference. Even old ladies, so the story goes, were being
systematically raped by their Serb guards! For refutation of
this twin of an earlier "Iraq incubator babies" story, also shown
now to be a lie, visit the Serb Unity Congress website,
www.suc.org
(2) "Ah, but of course the Serbs would deny it!" (That response
is already foreseen.) But the so-called "Racak massacre,"
trigger for the present imbroglio, is denied not just by the
Serbs but questioned by various journalists. *Le Figaro*
(France) doubts the story. *Le Monde* (France) is skeptical.
[3] A team of forensic investigators from Finland, by preliminary
reports, also doubts the "Racak massacre" story. And an article
in Chronicles Magazine disputes the claim of a "Racak massacre."
("Hot Spots: Kosovo Crisis." www.chroniclesmagazine.org/ )
(3) But even were the "Racak massacre" story true, the deaths of
500,000 innocent children in Iraq, brought on by U.S.-led
sanctions, makes Bill Clinton seem to be, comparatively, the
truer "Hitler."
(4) Protesters throughout the world have been gathering to
denounce the NATO boom-booms in Yugoslavia: In Moscow, thousands
protest; in New York City, thousands protest [4]; in Vancouver,
hundreds protest [5]; in Toronto, protesters firebomb the U.S.
Consulate [6]; in Australia, thousands protest and throw eggs at
police [7].
(5) Strictly speaking, it's still unknown why NATO is bombing
Yugoslavia. Asked John McLaughlin on his PBS broadcast of March
28, 1999: "What's the *real* reason?" If you believe the USA is
spending all this money and manpower due to a sudden idealistic
upsurge in humanitarian feelings, CNNS has some land it would
like to sell you. So then what's the real reason? We still
don't know, but theories include: (a) imperialism; (b) control
of drugs flowing through the region; (c) the corporate war
machine dumps bombs and then we have to pay them to build more
bombs.
The RAYTHEON CORPORATION builds the missiles now being dumped
over Yugoslavia. They are sure to profit when more U.S. taxpayer
money is handed to them, necessitated by the suddenly depleted
U.S. missile supply. "Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed
Martin, Boeing and other US defense contractors have made no
secret
Re: [CTRL] Snuffing white devils
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones wrote: And look at Waco; what brought on that disasterwhat did these people do wrong; and then, Halle Bopp.do you really believe they committed suicide It was on this very day, March 26, 1997, that the Heaven's Gate "suicide" victims were found. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers !
-Caveat Lector- Not sure what the "burn a candle/support our soldiers" has to do with conspiracy. It was yellow ribbons for Persian Gulf War, now candles, apparently. How can anyone disagree with "support our soldiers" -- and that's just the whole point of the exercise. How about instead of "support our soldiers" have "bring our soldiers home"? Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dracos Foment Yugo Drug Wars?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.wiolawa.com JUGO DRUG WARS AND GENOCIDE ON PLANET EARTH IN YUGOSLAVIA On March 24-25, 1999.. . the Drug Wars on our Planet have begun again.. for control of the minds of the citizens of this Planet by the DRAGONS.. These dracos decided to impliment their war when the alignment of Alpha Draconis was within 1 degree of Midheaven in our skies..on these dates. The drug money is used for their black projects of military development of planes such as the TR-3B triangle craft; including back engineering of extraterrestrial craft located at area 51, and the biological experimentation which is leading to the creation of a "NEW MAN" .the Hrumachis MAN..to replace us. They demand control of the DRUG MARKET...in the Balkan countries.and the supply line which is approximately 25-40% of the heroine and cocaine traffic that flows into the United States...inorder to control the citizens of the US.. who are virtual victims of this program..the US citizens unwittingly fund their subversion program by buying these drugs.. inorder for the dragons to totally takeover this planet. http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns0325 The United States Dragon Controllers have sided with the Bosnian forces who are known as the KLA.. these Mafioso forces.. are being sponsored by the Senators of the U.S. who did not impeach Klinton... who happens to be the current WOLF speaker for the Dragons. The Serbs remember well the 750,000 Serbians , who were eliminated by the Bosnian Nazissee below this link http://www.shout.net/~bigred/bosnia The NATO COMMANDER who is leading the EUROPEAN THEATRE FORCES is also a DRAGON.. as you can see below: [INLINE] Photo from "Jane's Defence Weekly ",Volume 26 NO.18 , Interview Oct 1996 BELOW IS THE EMBOSSED PHOTO OF GENERAL CLARK [INLINE] back to index home DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo Drugs Target Christian Infidels (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Sno0wl wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 25 Mar 99, , Brian wrote: -Caveat Lector- KOSOVO DRUGS TARGET "CHRISTIAN INFIDELS" "U.S. soldiers called upon to enforce a 'peace' accord that turns Kosovo over to the KLA might be interested to know that they are risking their lives on behalf of a criminal syndicate that for years has pumped heroin into the U.S. and threatened the lives of American law enforcement officials." [1] (CNNS, 03/25/99) -- New York City is the final destination of the Istanbul-Yugoslavia-New York heroin pipeline. Between 25 and 40 percent of the U.S. heroin supply travels this route. [2] How does this explain 10,000 refugees--women, children, the elderly-- fleeing their burning villages? It's a thing called "civil war." In our own, U.S. Civil War, General Sherman also did a lot of burning. Now the Kosovans are heroin traffickers. And The Serbs are the Boy Scouts? That is a *non sequiter*. Are we supposed to believe that The Slob is just trying to cleanse the world of heroin traffickers? And we are bombing the "good guys"? Believe what you want. The first casualty of war is truth. Mainstream press gives its own one-sided picture, as do U.S. politicians and top bureaucrats. The real circumstance, as a Confederate general once said: War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it. It's a bad situation all around, but NATO is making it worse. Plus, as noted, I don't trust the humanitarian fig leaf as NATO's motive. If U.S. is truly so concerned about humanitarian, there are many still suffering in Central America after Hurricane Mitch, yet the great humanitarians of Washington, DC have done little about that. I'm amazed that someone who's apparently knowledgeable about conspiracies, such as yourself, has apparently bought into the mainstream media propaganda which demonizes the Serbs. Many also bought into the Waco propaganda, in 1993, but you'd think, at some point, people would "get it." Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kosovo Drugs Target Christian Infidels (fwd)
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KOSOVO DRUGS TARGET "CHRISTIAN INFIDELS"
"U.S. soldiers called upon to enforce a 'peace' accord that
turns Kosovo over to the KLA might be interested to know
that they are risking their lives on behalf of a criminal
syndicate that for years has pumped heroin into the U.S.
and threatened the lives of American law enforcement
officials." [1]
(CNNS, 03/25/99) -- New York City is the final destination of the
Istanbul-Yugoslavia-New York heroin pipeline. Between 25 and 40
percent of the U.S. heroin supply travels this route. [2]
Controlling the Yugoslav portion of this heroin pipeline is the
Albanian mafia, itself hand-in-glove with the Kosovo Liberation
Army (KLA). The KLA is "an international drug-dealing mafia
masquerading as an idealistic liberation army." [3]
Narco dollars buy the guns which keep the "liberation army"
going.
Until recently, Agim Gashi, an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo, was
Milan, Italy's foremost drug lord. He used his illegal drug
profits to help the KLA purchase weapons. Italian police
eavesdropped on one of Gashi's phone conversations, in which
Gashi fervently declared his wish to "submerge Christian infidels
in drugs." [4]
For some unknown reason the U.S. has been quietly eager to
intrude U.S. armed forces into the Kosovo region. But a fig leaf
was needed, behind which to hide the true motive, before
intervention could occur. According to a report by the U.S.
Senate Republican Policy Committee (RPC), dated August 12, 1998,
"planning for a U.S.-led NATO intervention in Kosovo is now
largely in place... The only missing element seems to be an
event -- with suitably vivid media coverage -- that would make
the intervention politically salable..." [5]
What was needed was a *causa belli*, a pretext for war, such as
in the now infamous "Tonkin Gulf Incident." On August 4, 1964,
President Lyndon Johnson gravely announced that U.S. destroyers
had been attacked by the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin.
Widespread outrage propelled the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
through Congress and pushed us into the Vietnam War. Now, after
58,000 U.S. soldiers dead and $400 billion spent, it's becoming
increasingly clear that the Tonkin Gulf Incident, as such, never
happened! Writes Jonathan Kwitny in his book, "Endless Enemies":
"What we know is entirely consistent with the possibility that
the Tonkin Gulf Incident was a put-up job, designed to sucker the
North Vietnamese into providing justification for a planned U.S.
expansion of the war..." [6]
Phase 2 of the Kosovo *causa belli* may be a staged event of Serb
troops supposedly crossing over into Macedonia. Such a staged
event would "excuse" NATO troops, now massed in Macedonia, for
invading Kosovo.
Phase 1 of the Kosovo *causa belli*, the needed fig leaf behind
which to justify NATO air attacks, was the mid-January, 1999,
supposed discovery of a massacre of ethnic Albanians. Yet here
again, as in the Tonkin Gulf Incident, later analysis raises
troubling questions. Asks the French newspaper, *Le Figaro*,
"What really happened? During the night, could the [KLA] have
gathered the bodies, in fact killed by Serb bullets, to set up a
scene of cold-blooded massacre?" [7] Also expressing doubts on
the believability of the so-called "Racak massacre" was *Le
Monde* newspaper correspondent Christophe Chatelot: "Isn't the
Racak massacre just too perfect?" [8]
"When will they ever learn... When will they ever learn," sang
Peter, Paul and Mary ("Where have all the flowers gone?"). When
will *we* ever learn? When will we ever learn that politicians
and mainstream reporters are not to be trusted?
--- Notes ---
[1] "Diving Into the Kosovo Quagmire," by William Norman Grigg.
New American magazine, 3/15/99.
[2] Wall Street Journal, 9/9/85. Qtd. in Grigg, op. cit.
[3] Analysis by Ben Works, director of Strategic Research
Institute of the United States (SIRIUS). Qtd. in Grigg, op. cit.
[4] Grigg, op. cit.
[5] Analysis by U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee (RPC),
8/12/98. Qtd. in Grigg, op. cit.
[6] Kwitny, qtd. in *It's A Conspiracy!* by Michael Litchfield.
Berkeley: Earth Works Press, 1992. ISBN: 1-879682-10-9.
[7] *Le Figaro* article, qtd. in Grigg, op. cit.
[8] Chatelot, qtd. in Grigg, op. cit.
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[CTRL] KLA Funded By Drug Money
-Caveat Lector- Line March 24 1999 KOSOVO CRISIS Line The KLA Drugs money linked to the Kosovo rebels FROM ROGER BOYES AND ESKE WRIGHT IN BONN THE Kosovo Liberation Army, which has won the support of the West for its guerrilla struggle against the heavy armour of the Serbs, is a Marxist-led force funded by dubious sources, including drug money. That is the judgment of senior police officers across Europe. An investigation by The Times has established that police forces in three Western European countries, together with Europol, the European police authority, are separately investigating growing evidence that drug money is funding the KLA's leap from obscurity to power. The financing of the Kosovo guerrilla war poses critical questions and it sorely tests claims to an "ethical" foreign policy. Should the West back a guerrilla army that appears to be partly financed by organised crime? Could the KLA's need for funds be fuelling the heroin trade across Europe? The KLA has become an essential component of the Kosovo peace agreement; without it, there would be no equal negotiating partner for the Belgrade Government. In military terms, it is in no sense equal to the Serb forces. But it has grown from a theoretical notion to an often successful, very mobile and very visible guerrilla grouping in a remarkably short time. Much of the money funding the KLA is believed to come from legitimate sources - raised by the People's Movement of Kosovo, which is the political wing of the resistance movement. There are about 500,000 Kosovan Albanians in Western Europe who send money back home because it funds healthcare for their cousins. However, some of this cash is believed to be siphoned off for the military. As well as diverting charit-able donations from exiled Kosovans, some of the KLA money is thought to come from drug dealing. Sweden is investigating suspicions of a KLA drug connection. "We have intelligence leading us to believe that there could be a connection between drug money and the Kosovo Liberation Army," said Walter Kege, head of the drug enforcement unit in the Swedish police intelligence service. Supporting intelligence has come from other states. "We have yet to find direct evidence, but our experience tells us that the channels for trading hard drugs are also used for weapons," said one Swiss police commander. An official in the Bavarian Interior Ministry also told The Times of a recent fundraising meeting involving some 200 Kosovans in southern Germany. "At the end of the session they raised DM100,000 [about £40,000]." This represents a huge sum for ordinary Kosovans and fuels speculation that apparently legitimate fundraising activities are used to launder dirty money. One Western intelligence report quoted by Berliner Zeitung says that DM900 million has reached Kosovo since the guerrillas began operations and half the sum is said to be illegal drug money. In particular, European countries are investigating the Albanian connection: whether Kosovan Albanians living primarily in Germany and Switzerland are creaming off the profits from inner-city heroin dealing and sending the cash to the KLA. Albania - which plays a key role in channelling money to the Kosovans - is at the hub of Europe's drug trade. An intelligence report which was prepared by Germany's Federal Criminal Agency concluded: "Ethnic Albanians are now the most prominent group in the distribution of heroin in Western consumer countries." Europol, which is based in The Hague, is preparing a report for European interior and justice ministers on a connection between the KLA and Albanian drug gangs. Police in the Czech Republic recently tracked down a Kosovo Albanian drug dealer named Doboshi who had escaped from a Norwegian prison where he was serving 12 years for heroin trading. A raid on Doboshi's apartment turned up documents linking him with arms purchases for the KLA. Police sources in Germany have made plain their suspicions: the sudden ascendancy of Kosovan Albanians in the heroin trade in Switzerland, Germany and Scandinavia coincides with the sudden growth of the KLA from a ragamuffin peasants' army two years ago to a 30,000-strong force equipped with grenade launchers, anti-tank weapons and AK47s. Next page: The RAF Arts (Mon - Fri) | Books (Sat) (Thu) | British News | Business | Court page | Features (Mon - Fri) | Go (Sat) | Metro (Sat) | Obituaries | Interface (Wed) | Opinion | Sport | Travel (Sat) (Thu) | Vision (Sat) | Weather | Weekend (Sat) | Weekend Money (Sat) | World News [LINK]Down[LINK] Subscribe to the paper Contact Us [LINK] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] [ISMAP] Main story and full links Next page: The
[CTRL] Statement from Serb Unity Congress
-Caveat Lector- From Serb Unity Congress http://www.suc.org No. 05/99 CONTACT: VOJIN JOKSIMOVICH (760) 781 3887 March 24, 1999 SERBIAN UNITY CONGRESS STATEMENT REJECTS BOMBING AND AGGRESSION, APPEALS FOR PEACE On 24 March, 1999 Vojin Joksimovich, Director for Foreign Affairs of the Serbian Unity Congress, issued the following statement condemning NATO military action against Yugoslavia and appealing for a commitment by all sides to peace: "This is one of the darkest days in the recent history of the United States. As Serb Americans we feel a deep sense of shame that our country is resorting to the tactics of aggression and extortion more normally associated with totalitarianism and fascism. The blood of innocent lives will be on the consciences of our nation's leaders. Serbia is a sovereign country. It has never in the past and does not in the present represent a threat of any kind to the U.S. To the contrary in the two world wars of this century it has stood shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. For the U.S. to attack Serbia in these circumstances is an affront to all American values, principles, and morality. The attack on Serbia violates international law as framed by the United Nations charter, the NATO Treaty and the Helsinki Accords Final Act. NATO's action constitutes unilateral aggression. It lacks UN Security Council authorization for the clear reason that it would attract a veto in that body. NATO's claim to be acting on behalf of the international community is null and void. Beyond being immoral and illegal, NATO's attack will gravely damage U.S. national interests: * The action effectively puts the U.S. on the same side as terrorists and separatists. This will seriously undermine U.S. anti-terrorists efforts elsewhere in the world; * The U.S. is using double standards and selective moral indignation. Having assisted the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Serbs in Croatia from their ancestral lands, 100,000 from Sarajevo and doing nothing about the tragedy of the Kurdish people under Turkish oppression, the reasons offered for the attack on Serbia are deceitful, disingenuous and dishonorable. * The action will worsen the humanitarian tragedy in Kosovo; * The risks of regional war have greatly increased, as events in Macedonia already demonstrate; and * The geostrategic relationship with Russia is at risk. The SUC supports peace and reconciliation in Kosovo. True negotiations must be allowed to start without the threat of force. The interfaith meeting in Vienna on March 18 between leaders of the Catholic, Muslim, Jewish and Orthodox faiths show that the opportunities for peace are far from been exhausted. We call upon the Administration to order an immediate halt to this immoral, illegal and counterproductive military action and return without delay to the negotiating table." _ S.U.C. Central Office, Phone (707) 258 8623, Fax (707) 224 6593 S.U.C. Belgrade Office, Phone/Fax 11 624 129 About S.U.C. | News Page | Home [RETURN] Copyright © 1996-99 Serbian Unity Congress. All Rights Reserved. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yugoslav Tinderbox Explodes! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- YUGOSLAV TINDERBOX EXPLODES! (CNNS, 03/24/99) -- News is breaking hot and heavy from Yugoslavia. Amidst an avalanche of new information, this news service is deadlined to go to press due to the frenzy of reports following the illegal NATO attack on the sovereign nation of Yugoslavia. With the CNN (Cable News Network) anti-Serb propaganda machine now kicked into overdrive; with U.S. politicians and bureaucrats falling over each other in their rush to overwhelm the American public with a barrage of lies; this news service must rush to press and offer counterpoint to the tidal wave of mistruth being unleashed upon the American public. Under deadline pressure, CNNS gives against-the-tide facts which counter-act a mass media flood of misinformation. As the dust settles, the situation will become clearer. In the meantime, here is the developing picture of what is really happening. (1) An amazing circumstance is that many American citizens automatically extend credibility to mainstream news outlets, even at this late date, when those same news outlets have repeatedly been shown up as routine liars. (2) A further amazing circumstance is that many American citizens automatically extend credibility to U.S. politicians and high-level bureaucrats, even at this late date, when those same persons have repeatedly been shown up as routine liars. (3) Numerous reports that the "Kosovo Liberation Army" (KLA) is funded by the sale and distribution of illegal narcotics have surfaced. (See, for example, "Diving Into the Kosovo Quagmire," by William Norman Grigg. New American magazine, 3/15/99.) Information in Grigg's article (op. cit.) shows that the KLA is financially supported, besides via heroin sales and distribution, by Osama bin Laden, a reputed Islamic terrorist leader. Also reportedly "arming and supporting" the KLA is the nation of Iran. (Grigg, op. cit.) Yet in the strange world of *realpolitik*, the USA now has lent its muscle to the heroin/bin Laden/Iranian KLA. (4) This news service contacted Mr. Andrew B. Spiegel, an attorney knowledgeable about the Yugoslavian situation. CNNS asked Mr. Spiegel, General Counsel to the Pavlovic Peace Delegation, "Why on earth does NATO have such a profound interest in Yugoslavian internal affairs?" Spiegel offered a cynical interpretation. "Is it oil?" asked CNNS. Spiegel responded that his fears are that the true motivation behind the ongoing Yugoslav crisis is based on control of the lucrative supply of narcotics flowing through the region. A similar situation may have motivated the Vietnam War, according to Mark Sato, a former associate of Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts. According to Sato, the basis for the Vietnam War was a battle for control of the notorious "Golden Triangle" region of southeast Asia. (The naive believe that the NATO onslaught is based on "humanitarian" concerns. The wise are dissuaded from this caviling by grim national realities. Humanitarian concerns begin at home!) (5) Contacted by this news service, Mr. Skolnick, a veteran researcher into subrosa U.S. politics, expressed anxiety that the now-exploding Yugoslav tinderbox is chain-reacting into a repeat of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, a dangerous showdown between the U.S. and Russia. Preliminary reports given to Skolnick by his various sources indicate that a portion of the Russian navy is now enroute from the Black Sea, through the straits of Bosphorus, and into the Mediterranean, on their way to the Yugoslav area. Skolnick has received one report from a highly placed source that military brass in the United Kingdom have gone, literally, underground, intosecurefacilities, safeguarding themselves in the event of nuclear holocaust. (6) According to Mr. Spiegel, Christiane Amanpour apparently has received $1 million from Muslim/Arab sources in return for her biased, drum-beat reportage on the Yugoslav crisis. Immediate confirmation of this report is not available at press time, but Mr. Spiegel says the alleged Amanpour payoff has previously been reported elsewhere, possibly by the Serb Unity Congress (www.suc.org) (7) Unconfirmed at press time: that the Federation of American Scientists has listed the KLA as a terrorist organization. (8) According to Mr. Spiegel, mainstream reports claiming a Serb policy of "ethnic cleansing" are "absurd." This was confirmed by a high ranking Serb official who, today, on CNN, emphatically denied any such genocidal policies. Yes, Kosovo terrorists and members of the KLA are being fought, but no civilians are or have been targeted. (9) Additional motivation for the NATO rain of terror may be connected with legal troubles being
Re: [CTRL] Where There's War, There's Amanpour (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones wrote: All these humanitarians with whips - marching across EuropeThe United States of Europe - there can be no New World Order, without it. And then - eyes will be on China with its vast natural resources yet to be untapped.and then they will set the Dali Llama on high, and go for it. My take on it is that, in the past year, we've been slowly returning to the old Cold War model. (I did at least one report on that in a past CNNS release; check my web site http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html look under "CNNS Press Releases.) Significant is that NATO, not the U.N., is the new "fig leaf" behind which hides imperialist aggression. Mainstream news claims intervention in Yugoslavia has the support of "the international community," but that's misleading: much of the "international community" does not support intervention in Yugoslavia. When that is accomplished, then the New World Order will have been accomplished, and we can again send someone like Shirley Temple to represent us in the United Nations. Golly Geethen everything will be just fine. I think, personally, that NWO has failed and we are returning to Cold War days. What have any of these people done to the United States that we should intercede with ballistic missiles - cui bono. USA is dupes of European colonial interests. USA gets nothing back for its efforts in Yugoslavia. Remember World War I: again, USA duped into fighting then gets nothing for its efforts. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cold War Returns
-Caveat Lector- "COLD WAR" RETURNS == (CNNS, 12/18/98) -- It's "back to the old drawing board" for the Global Planners, who have "thrown in the towel" on their plan for "One World." The Cold War days are coming back, at least for the near future. That the reverse-course, heading us back to an earlier geo-political *status quo*, is on the way, is shown most clearly by the dethronement of Bill Clinton. But there are other signs as well. "Ru Mills", in earlier reports, had described two warring factions in the Western intelligence community: Faction 1 and Faction 2. Faction 1 was said to be pro-"One World"; Faction 2 was said to favor the nation-state. "Ru Mills" had reported, about a year ago, that Faction 2 had gained control. And Faction 2, according to the pseudonymed "Ru Mills", wants to bring back a Cold War balance of power. The Faction 1/"One World" plan has been defeated, thanks to the fact that enough Americans stayed awake during the 1990s *blitzkrieg* of propaganda, hedonism and materialism to make a difference. It was disheartening, during those times, for some of us to see how many of our fellow citizens succumbed to a virtual reality which turned them into gibbering couch potatoes. But the Global Planners, revealed now as not omniscient, had not foreseen how strong of an underground resistance many ruggedly individualistic Americans would be capable of mounting. Now, these Think-Tank overseers of "what's best" are having to face up to the failure of their One World plan. They will, for the moment, just revise their computer models of interacting systems, run them through the machines, and see what the print-outs have to say. In the meantime, they have decided to fall back on the old tried-and-true Cold War model. What This Means --- We can expect a resurgence of the Russian Bear. The goodly Russian people will now be called upon to "do their part" for the overall benefit. They are now called upon to once more assume their previous role of archetypal "bad guys." CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) wishes to thank the Russian people for their forebearance in taking on the part they are about to perform. Their imminent Shakespearean role is not the favored character in the play. Before the Iron Curtain once more descends, CNNS extends a thank you to a great nation which has produced Dostoievsky, Tolstoy, and Solzhenitsyn. We can expect an easing of repression, here in the U.S. Now that "Evil Russia" is about to be cast as the major villain, the U.S. government will no longer need "big enemies" here at home to justify its existence. We can expect somewhat of a return to traditional male and female roles. The human male is biologically programmed to be "the provider." This term, "biologically programmed", carries with it thousands of years of human evolution, during which the male's task has been to succor his wife and children, by providing food, shelter, and clothing. Betty Frieden notwithstanding, ingrained human biological realities cannot be over-written by wishful thinking. Coinciding with the dethronement of Bill Clinton is the dethronement of Hillary Clinton, and all she represents. We can expect a truly better employment situation, instead of "lies, damned lies, and statistics." The former virtual reality had attempted to convince us that there were plenty of good-paying jobs available, even though this was obviously not the case. The renewed Cold War will mean a boom in manufacturing, centered in the nation-state. And a turning toward traditional male/female roles will mean that many more women can now escape the drudgery of 9-to-5 jobs, and concurrently will increase =real= demand for male workers, consequently improving their rate-of-pay. Furthermore, the imminent, returning, Cold War model, with its favoring of the nation-state, will impede illegal immigration and resultant competition for jobs. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, w
[CTRL] Getting Colder
-Caveat Lector- GETTING COLDER: NOT READY FOR NEW WORLD ORDER = (CNNS, 12/30/98) -- A sea change in the geo-political status quo is underway. Button up your overcoats, it's getting colder. A new "era of bad feelings" is unfolding. In the midst of an ongoing and momentous change in foreign relations, it's hard to see, since we're in the middle of it, the major wind shift and its ramifications. Weather forecast: COLD and getting colder. Coming to the fore now is acknowledgement, by "approved" media, that something fishy has been going on with Red China. Look for a COLD SNAP between U.S. and the People's Republic of China. The bitter wind beginning to blow will freeze the testicles of U.S. president Bill Clinton. Due to frostbite of the family jewels, Bill the Dodo Bird will be totally impotent by March, 1999. By then, virile Algore is guiding the ship through mist and snow -- unless Gore's enemies intervene. Says Sherman Skolnick: "Gore looks fat because he's wearing a bullet-proof vest." "And it grew wondrous cold." [1] Mikhail Gorbachev is broke. Boris Yeltsin is dying. Ukraine is re-uniting with Russia. Russian ambassadors to the U.S. and the United Kingdom had been recalled. Russia defaults on its debt repayments to major banks. Iraq, client state of Russia, jeers at U.S. military might. The "Russian bread index" -- sort of like the White House "pizza index" -- shows a major crisis in the works. And Vladimir Zhirinovsky assumes role of pimpmaster to Russian whores. (Like U.S. Congress "sugar daddies" pimp for stupid cow "feminists.") The borders freeze. Money coagulates and can't flow easily. USA is like "The Twilight Zone": easy to get in, but hard to get out; USA welcomes immigrants but no one welcomes her emigrants. And now there came both mist and snow, And it grew wondrous cold; And ice, mast-high, came floating by, As green as emerald. [2] In a moody scene, Bill the Dodo Bird walks a beach in South Carolina. His only friend, Buddy the Dog, lets out a plaintive wail. The blind hound with a mournful din Lifts slow his wintry head; The servants bear the body in; The hounds wail for the dead. [3] A cold, lackluster event, in Hilton Head, South Carolina. Underpaid Russian military brass facilitate sales of nuclear weapons to Iran (and Iraq?) Russian nuclear missiles GONE from their silos. Sales of Russian nukes needed to prop up faltering Russian economy? Deeper depths: Russian GOLD, extricated from the cold, cold ground (subsequent to the 1991 collapse of the USSR) wanders to the Netherlands. The Dutch use that gold to buy banks in 15 major U.S. cities, according to Sherman Skolnick. Kingpin in the reported scheme is ALGEMENE BANK NEDERLAND (ABN), which dominates, among others, the LaSALLE NATIONAL BANK, according to Skolnick. --- Notes --- [1] Coleridge, "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" [2] Ibid. [3] Yeats, "The Ballad of the Foxhunter" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Understanding Yugoslavia (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - BOSNIA: HOW THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND MEDIA HAVE FAILED AND MISLED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE == Special thanks to my "Chicago connection" for sending a videotape of a public access program, "Broadsides", which was taped on June 6, 1995. Host is Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts; co-host is Mr. Robert E. Cleveland, an attorney and associate of Mr. Skolnick. Guests are James Nagle, an attorney with the law firm of Querry Harrow, Andrew B. Spiegel, also an attorney, and Mike Pavlovic, a Serbian-American. Pardon spelling errors. If you know the correct spellings, please let me know. Contact info: Andrew B. Spiegel, PO Box 396, Wheaton, IL 60187 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + SHERMAN SKOLNICK: Hi. Thanks for watching "Broadsides". I'm Sherman Skolnick, sitting in for our moderator, Cliff Kelley. We have an interesting program this evening. It's about "Bosnia: How the State Department and the Media Have Failed the American People". And we have with us three gentlemen that have just come back; they've been on a goodwill tour to promote peace in the Bosnia area. We have James Nagle, a trial attorney with Querry Harrow in Wheaton; an International Law expert, Andrew B. Spiegel; and Mr. Spiegel's client, Mike Pavlovic. And, as a guest panelist, we have a Chicago lawyer, Robert E. Cleveland. And we're gonna be discussing some things here that you probably will not see on the media because, apparently, the media doesn't want you to know this, and apparently the State Department doesn't want you to know it. And *were* the American people to know more about this (what we're gonna discuss in this program), probably there would be peace in that area. Why don't you start, Mr. Spiegel, and tell us about this letter which you have, that you feel would've made peace, if Clinton would have done something about it. ANDREW SPIEGEL: Well, Sherman, the letter you refer to is a letter dated April 22nd, 1995. It's a letter that President Radovan Karadzic [CN -- Please pardon the levity, but this may help you picture who Karadzic is: my nickname for him is "hairdo".], the president of the Republic of Srpska, wrote (with our assistance) after we met with him in Pale [PALL-ay], which is the capital of the Republic of Srpska. (The Republic of Srpska is the Serbian section of Bosnia.) SHERMAN SKOLNICK: I think, Mr. Pavlovic, we can start with the history. I think you're prepared to tell us about the history of this area from about 1914 to 1980. And then Mr. Nagle will take it from there. MIKE PAVLOVIC: I can say that, 1914, we had start First World War, from Sarajevo. At that time was assassination of Prince Ferdinand(?) from Austria. And that time, before world war finished, we had monarchs in Yugoslavia; they create country as Yugoslavia. We create country from Slovenia, Croatia, and Serbia that time. And what... From that time, we had monarch until 1941. SHERMAN SKOLNICK: Was the arrangement of the boundary lines to promote peace over that period, or not? MIKE PAVLOVIC: *That* time is not. They had only, they created one country as, called Yugoslavia. ROBERT CLEVELAND: That was created by the Versailles Treaty, is that not correct? MIKE PAVLOVIC: That's true. And then, after King Peter the First took over the country, that was, at that time, monarchy of the, of Yugoslavia. SHERMAN SKOLNICK: During the Second World War, I understand that one of the factions that lives in that area, the Croats, very much co- operated with the Nazis. In fact, in some ways, they were more brutal than the Nazis (if that's possible): the Ustashe(sp?). Can you tell us a little bit about that? MIKE PAVLOVIC: I can tell you one thing: that is, that time they create, in Croatia... they work together, with Germany. They create a special army they call Ustashe. And that time, Second World War, they kill maybe 750,000 Serbs -- massacred -- in Serbia and Croatia. ROBERT CLEVELAND: The Nazis had come in and took over the country; they conquered it from the monarchy. SHERMAN SKOLNICK: In other words, the monarchy during that period brought a certain amount of peace and tranquility to that region? MIKE PAVLOVIC: That time was peace, all the time. But when start Second World War, they start separating. SHERMAN SKOLNICK: What about in the postwar period? I think some of us know there was a "strong man" by the name of Tito [TEE-toe]. Can you tell us a little bit about that? MIKE PAVLOVIC: That time, it was 1941 that Tito came in power. And during that time of war was several leaders in the Yugoslavia. That time was, like General [Unclear] who save all those 750 American pilots. (I hope this pilot we have right now... I hope is alive and safe. [O'Grady, probably, during June 1995]) SHERMAN SKOLNICK: So was there, in the postwar period,
[CTRL] Mechanics of Diana Murder Revealed (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
MECHANICS OF DIANA MURDER REVEALED
==
(CNNS, 03/23/99) -- A new report in the National Examiner
provides nuts-and-bolts info on the assassination of Princess
Diana. ("Hit Squad Assassinated Di," by Art Dworken. National
Examiner, 3/23/99.)
Princess Diana was killed on August 31, 1997, in what was then
referred to as a "car accident." However, widespread skepticism
existed from the start, with many convinced that Lady Diana was
murdered.
Piecing together the National Examiner story, the following
scenario unfolds:
(1) Henri Paul, driver of the Diana death-mobile, was on the
payroll of MI-6 (British intelligence), as an informer. Mr. Paul
reported to British intelligence, for example, on several
meetings held between Mohamed Al Fayed and "a notorious
international arms dealer" (Adnan Khashoggi?), at the Ritz Hotel,
in Paris.
(2) Richard Tomlinson, a "renegade British spy," now hiding in
Switzerland, says he has seen documents describing an MI-6 plan
to murder Slobodan Milosevich, the Yugoslav Lincoln. The MI-6
"Kill Milosevich" plan included the detail, "The accident should
happen in a place where the chance of fatal injury is as high as
possible -- like a tunnel."
(3) Shortly before Diana's death, MI-6 agents arrived in Paris.
One of these agents went to the British Embassy right after
Diana's "accident" and fed them disinformation.
(4) Diana's Mercedes would not normally have gone into the Alma
tunnel, but was somehow forced to detour into it. The normal
route was either suddenly blocked, or Diana's car was steered by
hounding motorcycles into the tunnel of death.
(5) Waiting for Diana's car were "rogue intelligence agents loyal
to the British monarchy." Reported by witnesses was a brilliant
flash of light seen just prior to the car crash. That flash of
light was "a high-powered laser beam used to temporarily blind
the driver of the target vehicle."
(6) Additional information from the Exegesis web site (not
included in the National Examiner article) shows that a fetus
carried by Princess Diana, apparently the result of her union
with Dodi Fayed, was taken from her womb and destroyed while she
was in the ambulance, enroute to the hospital. According to a
report carried by Exegesis, it took 67 minutes for the ambulance
to travel from the Alma tunnel to the hospital, a distance of
under 4 miles. ("Who Are the Real Stooges?" Exegesis web site)
The question arises as to how "rogue" were the "rogue
intelligence agents" who implemented Diana's murder. The "rogue"
status may be real, or may be a cover available to facilitate
"plausible denial."
A new book by Rayelan Allan gives further details on the Diana
murder. "Diana, Queen of Heaven," is available from Pigeon Point
Publishing, PO Box 1784, Aptos, CA 95001-1784. Cost is $17.95,
which includes shipment by U.S. Priority mail. (International
orders send $20.45 to same address.) Make check or money order
payable to Pigeon Point Publishing. Allow 4-6 weeks for delivery
(but most orders are shipped immediately.) Pigeon Point
Publishing is not affiliated with Conspiracy Nation.
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Re: [CTRL] Mechanics of Diana Murder Revealed (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Sno0wl wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 23 Mar 99, , Brian wrote: 2) Richard Tomlinson, a "renegade British spy," now hiding in Switzerland, says he has seen documents describing an MI-6 plan to murder Slobodan Milosevich, the Yugoslav Lincoln. Yugoslav Lincoln Is the writer serious? Yes, quite serious. See previous CTRL message, "Understanding Yugoslavia." Getting your "news" from CNN on Yugoslavia? Maybe CNN is not trustworthy? Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Priory of Sion Hoax in Gnosis, No. 51, Spring 1999
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 20 Mar 1999, Kris Millegan wrote: Priory of Sion Author: Stargazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1999/03/18 Forum: soc.genealogy.medieval I recommend an article, "The Priory of Sion Hoax" in "Gnosis," No. 51, Spring 1999. It says, "the real Priory of Sion was an authentic Catholic monastic order. In 1617 it ceased to exist and was absorbed by the Jesuits ... the Grail is not a bloodline. This false story originated in reams of fraudulent documemts created by an extreme right-wing French sect." "Holy Grail" from Sangreal, divided San/greal, gives "Holy Grail." But divide Sangreal as Sang/real, and you have "Blood royal." It gives an interesting history of the "sect" and its members and placement of fabricated histories in libraries. But which is the arch-fabricator of them all? Why it's the Roman Catholic church. See Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of Roman Empire" for how the early Catholic Church destroyed and altered documents whenever the "one true church" didn't like what they said. Catholic Church has a well-known history of censorship. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Starr To Indict Bill Clinton?
-Caveat Lector- _ Wall Street Underground: Starr About To Arrest Clinton And Put Him On Trial Clinton Thugs in Witness Protection Program, Indictments Coming Soon More below ... Nicholas Guarino writes: "My high level source on Clinton's crimes has been 100% right for two years straight - and he's just dropped the bombshell of the year: Three of Bill Clinton's paid thugs are now safely tucked away in the Witness Protection Program - and they're singing like canaries. Clinton's goons have now confessed under oath that they were paid to terrorize grand jury witnesses -- and even threaten their children's lives -- to prevent them from testifying about Clinton's crimes. An outraged Kenneth Starr is now secretly preparing to indict and try the President of the United States and 9 of his most trusted allies on conspiracy and racketeering charges. Ken Starr's office has documented both the damage to WIlley's car and the disappearance of her cat. But there had never been any corroborating witnesses on the threats she claims were made against her or her children -- until now. Kenneth Starr now has a rock-solid case documenting the payments made to goons hired to silence Kathleen Willey - and as many as a dozen other women. They were hired through a conduit that stretches from the leg breakers on the streets, through private detectives, through important Democratic donors who provided the cash, to key members of the White House staff and to the president himself. Kenneth Starr has everything he needs to indict, try and convict the people involved on criminal charges -including Bill Clinton! Starr also has 12 other women who claimed Clinton sexually attacked them or attempted to force their silence about sexual liaisons with him. And now that they can tell their stories of brutal abuse and terror under the protection of the independent counsel, they too will be testifying before Starr's secret Grand Jury in the days ahead. Mr. Starr is secretly drafting charges against Clinton for conspiracy, perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and suborning perjury. Clinton will be charged as the kingpin of the conspiracy to bludgeon his victims into silence. Starr will also charge Vernon Jordan, Betty Currie, Sidney Blumenthal, and 5 more well-known administration officials. I can also tell you for a fact that the White House is desperately scrambling to find cause to fire Starr. So far, they've been unable to. And Republicans in Congress have agreed to defend Starr against White House reprisals at all costs. More news as we hear it - subscribe to The Wall Street Underground DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rift in the Left
-Caveat Lector-
From Village Voice:
March 17 - 23, 1999
by
richard goldstein
Just Our Bill?
[INLINE] The Left Reconsiders Its Relationship to Clinton and Comes
Out Swinging#151; Especially at Christopher Hitchens
[INLINE] Hitch the Snitch: delighted to be despised (photo:
AP/Wideworld)
Ever since he signed an affidavit last February claiming that his
friend Sidney Blumenthal told him Monica Lewinsky was "a stalker"
thereby contradicting Blumethal's sworn testimony Christopher Hitchens
has been the scourge of the literary left. Hitch the Snitch is the
mildest of the nicknames that have been pinned on him. "A Judas,"
Alexander Cockburn snarled. "An informer," Victor Navasky railed. "I
don't think anyone would call you a feminist," Katha Pollitt wrote in
a "Dear Christopher" letter that ran in The Nation as a response to
his own apologia. Lefties who lunch have hurled even harsher charges.
The writer Edward Jay Epstein claims he once heard Hitchens deny the
Holocaust. ("A demented liar," is Hitchens's response.)
For his part, Hitchens is crying all the way to Meet the Press. Though
he staunchly denies taking a fall for fame, notoriety is the best
publicity for a brainy Brit who can't even say "Yipee-kay-yie-yay." As
a result of his sins, Hitchens's forthcoming book about Clinton which
turns on the thesis that the president's sexual proclivities are an
apt metaphor for his political corruption is likely to be taken far
more seriously than if he had confined his thoughts to The Nation and
Vanity Fair.
Hitchens's book, No One Left To Lie To, will join a pack of tell-alls
that seem destined to turn April into the cruelest month for Clinton.
There's George Stephanopoulos's $2.75 million memoir, All Too Human,
in which the author casts himself as John Doe 1, another victim of the
Great Compartmentalizer; and Michael Isikoff's Uncovering Clinton, in
which the Newsweek sleuth inserts himself into the middle of
Monicagate as every insider journalist with a clothing budget seems
compelled to do. "Clintonism poisons everything it touches," as
Hitchens writes.
Whether or not you consider him a pinko self-promoter, Hitchens has
accomplished something tangible with his telltale ways. He has thrown
into high relief a roiling debate about whether progressives are soft
on Clinton. There are no trends on the left only tendencies but an
unofficial survey of writers and activists who call themselves
radicals, socialists, or just plain progressives affirms that the
Clinton Question has become the hottest topic of debate since, well,
Israel.
Like most disputes on the left, this one has gone unnoticed by the
mainstream media, which prefer to cast the battle of Bill in neatly
dichotomous terms: liberals adore him, conservatives abhor him. In
fact, on the left, Clinton inspires feelings that are ambivalent at
best. "I don't feel any attachment to him," says Gloria Steinem, who
is widely considered a feminist Friend of Bill. "I feel an aversion to
his adversaries."
To many progs, the impeachment seemed like a clear and present danger
"a peaceful attempt to assassinate the president," in Steinem's words.
Though Hitchens dismisses the idea that the campaign against Clinton
was an attempted coup, it certainly seemed to many activists that his
removal from office would have ushered in a period of right-wing
dominance. Even a hardcore radical like Mary Lou Greenberg of the
activist group Refuse Resist speaks of "the dire consequences for
the people" in a takeover by the Christian right. That's why
Greenberg, who is also a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party,
felt compelled to defend a president who declared that "the age of big
government is over." She took her cue from "the errors of the
Communist forces in Weimar Germany. One error was not taking fascism
seriously, and another was not uniting with a segment of the ruling
class to defeat these fascist forces."
While Clinton's appeal remains unwavering among minorities (he's the
most popular figure in the black community except for Jesse Jackson,
says Manning Marable, who recently completed a nationwide survey of
black political attitudes), in activist circles he has long been
regarded as a wolf in multiculti clothing. "I don't really get it,"
says Gwendolyn Mink, the author of Welfare's End. "The president has
added more death-penalty crimes than any of his predecessors, and you
certainly know about the racial effect of the death penalty. He's
enacted a welfare reform that not only cancels an entitlement but also
takes away rights from a certain caste of women. He pushed through
NAFTA, which undermines the position of American workers. If there's a
right-wing conspiracy, it's Bill Clinton."
Manning Marable has an explanation for the
[CTRL] Anonymous Author Resurfaces (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "ANONYMOUS AUTHOR" RESURFACES = (CNNS, 03/19/99) -- In a surprising development, this news service has recently been contacted by the "Anonymous Author." (Longtime readers will recall this unusual thinker; see, e.g. CN 11.33, "The Anonymous Author Responds to Comments," at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html) The Anonymous Author was rattled by recent CNNS reports which strongly suggest that John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle, a Civil War-era secret society. "Not so!" angrily responded the errant knight of quixotic thought, in a memo sent to this news service. The Anonymous Author adheres to the theory that Mary Todd Lincoln, wife of Abraham Lincoln, is the true killer of America's most-loved, and most-hated, president. He believes that Booth was inadvertantly present at Ford's Theater on April 14, 1865, delivering narcotics to Mary Lincoln, and that Booth panicked when Mary Lincoln shot her husband dead. According to previous documents received from the Anonymous Author, John Wilkes Booth did not belong to the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC), but rather to the Knights of the White Camelia, a lesser branch of KGC. In his communique received by this news service, the Anonymous Author opined that Jesse James, were he still alive, would be quite upset at the CNNS reports that Booth belonged to the Knights of the Golden Circle. The Anonymous Author has agreed to refute the apparent Booth/KGC link, but not immediately. The Anonymous Author is busy this month, but promises a clear rebuttal within about a month's time. In an interesting parallel, Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic finds himself today in a Lincoln-esque position. During the American Civil War, Abraham Lincoln fought to maintain the Union so as to better resist European imperialist designs on the American continent. So too does Milosevic fight for a united Yugoslavia, against the imperialist designs of France, Germany, Britain, and the United States. During the American Civil War, Russia was one of the only European powers which stood by Lincoln during the crisis. So too now does Russia stand by Milosevic, the Yugoslav Lincoln. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade Forming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Ric Carter wrote: Serbia is a sovereign nation. Not in this space-time continuum. Serbia is a province of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, along with Montenegro. Study geography before you spout, eh? Cheers --Ric Sorry to bust your bubble, but not long after Marshall Tito died there's been no Yugoslavia. Time for "geography students" to get a current map. Cheers -- Brian You really do need to study current events more closely. "[By 1993] the provinces of Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Bosnia and Herzegovina had seceded, leaving Serbia and Montenegro as the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia." [Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia, 1998]. But don't believe me - check the CIA site. Ciao --Ric Serbia/Montenegro, as per original, is still a sovereign nation. The newly hegemonic NATO, rising from the ashes of the discredited U.N., has no business intefering in internal affairs of Serbia/Montenegro, Yugoslavia, Serbia, or whatever you choose to call it. The nomenclature is a minor point; the sovereignty remains. I choose not to consult the "CIA site" (with which you are familiar.) Ciao -- Brian DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade Forming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Howard R. Davis III wrote: -Caveat Lector- In the 1998 World Cup (Soccer) held in France, two countries from the former Yugoslavia played (and did well). Yugoslavia and Croatia. I believe that Yugoslavia may have gotten into the final 8 and I know that Croatia came in third. No one mentioned Serbia as being a country. An article in New American magazine (3/15/99) calls Kosovo a "Serbian province" -- not a "Yugoslavian province." The article goes on: "Serbs regard the province to be the spiritual home of Serbian nationalism" -- not "Yugoslavian nationalism." More: "Many within the ethnic Albanian majority favor independence from Serbia..." (New American, 3/15/99) Scanning through the New American article, I find no mention of Yugoslavia, *per se*; the nomenclature is always "Serbia this; Serbia that." This does not mean that there is no "Yugoslavia," just that "Yugoslavia" is a word I hear less often and "Serbia" is a word I hear more often. I'll take previous/current persons' word for it, that there still is a Yugoslavia consisting of Serbia/Montenegro. But news reports seem never to refer to Serbia as Yugoslavia or as part of Yugoslavia these days. Brian Redman Temporary Organizer, 2nd Abraham Lincoln Brigade DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 2AL Brigade: Why We Form
-Caveat Lector- Article below gives background for why the Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade is being formed. Brian Redman Temporary organizer, Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade TUESDAY MARCH 16 1999 WND Exclusive Commentary Odd alliance at State, CNN? By Stella Jatras © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com In my opinion, there is something unhealthy when the recently married CNN's Christiane Amanpour and the State Department's James Rubin cover the same "breaking news" story. Ms. Amanpour, who never ceased to present a one-sided CNN perspective throughout the Bosnian war, is now doing the same with her one-sided anti-Serb CNN perspective of the civil war now raging in Kosovo. At the same time, Mr. Rubin is touting the anti-Serb position from the State Department, which is in effect: If the Serbs do not sign on the dotted line, NATO will bomb the Serbs. If the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) does not sign on the dotted line, NATO will still bomb the Serbs! The American people should be asking themselves, "What gives? Is CNN running the State Department, or vice versa?" There is clearly a conflict here. Mr. Rubin should step down as spokesman for the State Department. How can he have any credibility considering with whom he shares pillow talk? How can there be any semblance of journalistic impartiality with such a relationship between a "news" agency and the government? If there was any doubt before, the identical slant of Ms. Amanpour's "reporting" and Mr. Rubin's "official statements" out of Rambouillet should make it perfectly clear. Don't underestimate Ms. Amanpour's influence, not just on the news, but on U.S. foreign policy. You need only ask yourself if we would be involved in Bosnia if CNN, driven by Ms. Amanpour, had not had Bosnia on the tube night after night. "Where there's a war there's Amanpour," wrote Stephen Kinzer of the New York Times Magazine, Oct 9, 1994. She certainly has the drive and an instinct for the big stories: Haiti, Rwanda, Bosnia and now Kosovo. But what happens when she gets there? In her own words, from a New York Times article regarding Peter Arnett's involvement in the discredited CNN story about U.S. forces allegedly using poison gas in Vietnam: "The bottom line is that a television correspondent's most important contract is with the public. Trust and credibility are the commodities we trade in; without them we are worthless." It's only fair to ask ourselves how well Ms. Amanpour has lived up to her own standard. The Stephen Kinzer article gives part of the answer in a quote from a longtime TV associate of Ms. Amanpour: "She just insisted on going there [Rwanda], and the impact of her coverage forced the other networks to follow. It was another example of her great news instincts. But this same insider has doubts about Amanpour's commitment to objective journalism. 'I have winced at some of what she's done, at what used to be called advocacy journalism,' he said. 'She was sitting in Belgrade when that marketplace massacre happened, and she went on the air to say that the Serbs had probably done it. There was no way she could have known that. She was assuming an omniscience which no journalist has. Christiane is a journalist more in the British than the American tradition, more willing to take sides on a story. And I think she has a little of that traditional British contempt for America.' " The fact that a U.N. classified report concluded that Bosnian Muslim forces had committed the Markale marketplace massacre seems of no consequence to Ms. Amanpour. Deutsch Presse-Agentur of June 6, 1996, wrote: "For the first time, a senior U.N. official had admitted the existence of a secret U.N. report that blames the Bosnian Moslems for the February 1994 massacre of Moslems at the Sarajevo market." Christiane Amanpour has yet to inform her viewers of this fact, but continues to allow them to believe the massacre was a Serbian atrocity which United States and NATO used as an excuse to drop over 6,000 tons of bombs on the Bosnian Serbs. During her interview on the Charlie Rose show of 25 November 1997, Ms. Amanpour said, "...an ABC journalist was killed [in Bosnia]." She omitted the fact that U.N. and military experts believe that David Kaplan, the ABC journalist, was killed by Muslims. Another big CNN story early in the Bosnian conflict was the killing, allegedly by Serb snipers of two "Muslim babies" on a bus. Who could not have been horrified by the tragic sight of the funeral service for those innocent Muslim babies? Where were Ms. Amanpour and CNN to set the record straight? If it had not been for French 2 TV that covered the funeral, this writer would
[CTRL] Yugoslavia: Not Recognized
-Caveat Lector- The "how many angels on a pin" debate continues, between myself and some other CTRL list participants. Do we call it "Yugoslavia," "Serbia," or "Serbia/Montenegro"? Here is some background (source: *The Cambridge Factfinder*, edited by David Crystal. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1994. ISBN: 0-521-469910): 1990: Slovenia declares independence from Republic of Yugoslavia. 1991: Macedonia and Croatia declare independence from Republic of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia considers secession illegal. Civil war erupts between Croatia and Yugoslavia 1992: Federal Republic of Yugoslavia declared, consisting of republics of Montenegro and Serbia -- but "the new state remains unrecognized..." Brian Redman Temporary organizer, Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade Forming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Ric Carter wrote: any widening conflict there. The World War of this century started there, at the junction of East and West and MidEast, where Orthodoxy and Catholicism and Islam grind together. IMHO it's in the interest of us all that future World Wars are NOT provoked by events there; and if that means squashing Belgrade-based fascists, tough. Who are the real "fascists": the Serbs or the Croats? Answer: the Croats, an appendage in WWII of Hitler and the Nazis; not the Serbs, who resisted the Nazis and were rounded up by the Nazis. How on earth do you come up with "Belgrade-based fascists"? Do you watch CNN and Christiana Amanpour a lot? Brian Redman Temporary organizer, Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Human Organ Theft Case
-Caveat Lector- Monday March 15 4:44 PM ET Judge Dismisses Human Organs Case NEW YORK (Reuters) - The absence of a key witness caused a federal judge Monday to throw out an indictment of two men accused of trafficking in human organs taken from executed Chinese prisoners. The trial of Chen Yong Wang and Xing Qi Fu had originally been set for Feb. 1, but was delayed when it was determined that an informant in the case had left the United States and was refusing to testify. U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts ruled Monday that defense attorneys had shown it would violate their clients' constitutional rights to proceed to trial without being allowed to question the witness. Batts also criticized federal prosecutors for failing to investigate the informant's credibility or reliability. ``The government believes that its investigation and prosecution of this case was responsible and well-founded,'' said Herbert Haddad, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan. He said prosecutors disagreed with the judge's ruling and are assessing their options. Defense lawyers had argued that records obtained from the government showed that the informant had instigated the scheme and entrapped Chen and Xing. The defendants were indicted last year for allegedly conspiring to acquire organs from executed Chinese prisoners to be used in transplant operations. At the time, federal officials said the case could provide the first evidence to support dissidents' descriptions of the trafficking in human organs in China. The charges grew out of an FBI sting operation based on information from human rights advocate Harry Wu, who spent 19 years in Chinese labor camps for criticizing the Chinese leadership. According to court papers, Chen, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens, worked previously as a public prosecutor in China. Xing is a Chinese citizen also living in Queens. _ _ ___ Mar 12 | Mar 11 | Mar 10 | Mar 09 | Mar 08 | Mar 05 | Mar 04 | Mar 03 | Mar 02 | Mar 01 Index | Top Stories | Business | Tech | Politics | World | Local | Entertainment | Sports | Science | Health _ Questions or Comments Copyright © 1999 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Escape to Serbia (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- ESCAPE TO SERBIA (CNNS, 03/16/99) -- The austere nation of Finland, it now appears, does not seek immigrants. So where in the wide world can one escape to, should they wish to flee from the increasingly repressive USA? There is still a nation of heroes who would likely welcome your help: the nation of Serbia. In the 1930s, many Americans joined the Abraham Lincoln Brigade and went to Spain to volunteer as fighters against the fascist regime of General Franco. Now, a new fascist NATO regime threatens the good people of Serbia. It is time to form a new Abraham Lincoln Brigade, escape to Serbia, and help our freedom-loving Serb brothers. That the Serb people must be basically good is obvious from the fact that they are being demonized by the American mass media. It is a known fact and constantly restated that, "If the mainstream press doesn't like you, then you must be doing something right." You say you're angry as Hell at the U.S. government? What better way to vex the Washington, DC, Lords than to put a thousand or more U.S. males into Serbia as a potent symbol of defiance? S.O.S. Serbia... S.O.S. Serbia... Conspiracy Nation calling. Wish to organize new Abraham Lincoln Brigade and plant ourselves symbolically and actually in your country, where we, by our mere presence, will help halt the NATO threat against your sovereignty. Contact Brian Redman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for advice/assistance. Readers interested in joining Abraham Lincoln Brigade II and travellingtoSerbia,contact Conspiracy Nation at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade Forming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
SECOND ABRAHAM LINCOLN BRIGADE FORMING
==
(CNNS, 03/16/99) -- The response to the previous CNNS article,
"Escape to Serbia," has been positive. One reader writes, in
part, as follows:
Brian, if you get this off the ground, let me know. Your
idea could work. You need to figure out the logistics
though. I hope it works.
In the 1930s, American volunteers formed the Abraham Lincoln
Brigade and went to Spain to combat Franco's fascism. The Second
Abraham Lincoln Brigade (2AL) will consist of non-combatant
American citizens, willing to put themselves in harm's way to
prevent the planned NATO bloodlust against the sovereign Serbian
nation.
As detailed in an excellent article by Stella Jatras of World Net
Daily ("Odd Alliance at State, CNN?"), the USA "News" propaganda
machine has been saturating the American mind with anti-Serb
advertisements.This has been a typical USA "phase one"
operation, preparatory to planned NATO mass murder.
Serbia is a sovereign nation. The U.S. Congress has not declared
war on Serbia. Yet the post-U.N. hegemonic NATO is arrogantly
about to intrude on Serb sovereignty. The Second Abraham Lincoln
Brigade (2AL) is a cause behind which both the "left" and the
"right" can unite. For the "left," the rationale is to help stop
World War III by wetting-down the Serbian tinder-box. For the
"right," the rationale is national sovereignty.
The logistics of the 2AL Brigade are being worked out. The idea
is in its germinative phase and suggestions are welcome.
Preliminary logistics include:
(1) assurance that Serbia welcomes the 2AL Brigade;
(2) any available funding to transport the 2AL to Serbia;
(3) any available funding for flak-jackets and helmets for
members of 2AL.
A good commander for 2AL would be Norman Olson, of the Michigan
Militia. While 2AL would be non-combative, nonetheless a solid
*esprit de corps* is vital to the overall success of 2AL and only
an experienced leader with military background can solder us
together.
True, many Americans will "play it safe," and saturate their
selves in summer idleness. But if there are just 1,000 Americans
who feel they have nothing to lose, then this idea can fly. The
choice is yours: be a frog slowly boiled, or make a stand. A
new Crusade is forming for those who know that no one lives
forever and that eternal glory is better than wasting away.
Readers interested in joining Abraham Lincoln Brigade II and
travellingtoSerbia,contact Conspiracy Nation at
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Re: [CTRL] Second Abraham Lincoln Brigade Forming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Ric Carter wrote: Serbia is a sovereign nation. Not in this space-time continuum. Serbia is a province of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, along with Montenegro. Study geography before you spout, eh? Cheers --Ric Sorry to bust your bubble, but not long after Marshall Tito died there's been no Yugoslavia. Time for "geography students" to get a current map. Cheers -- Brian DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Article on Bo Gritz
-Caveat Lector- NEWS [ISMAP] Populist leader Bo Gritz embodies the intrigue of America's right wing Related Story: #149; Gritz's Idaho community leaves some residents feeling they've been had By JUDY L. THOMAS - The Kansas City Star Date: 03/13/99 22:15 Bo Gritz is a leader in the Christian Patriot movement, a talk-show host and a one-time presidential candidate. He calls himself the most-decorated Green Beret commander from the Vietnam War and the "real-life Rambo." Supporters call him a hero. An American freedom fighter. Critics call him a huckster. And perhaps a fraud. Whatever he's called, Gritz (pronounced "grites") is used to the labels. Now it appears that Kansas City had better get used to him. Next month Gritz will be among 200 exhibitors at a "preparedness expo" at Bartle Hall. His mission: teach people how to cope with the computer- and millennium-related chaos that he believes will erupt in the year 2000. Gritz also told The Kansas City Star that he wanted to form a "constitutional covenant community" in the Ozarks similar to Almost Heaven, a colony he founded in Idaho. In Almost Heaven, residents must sign a "covenant" pledging to defend the constitutional rights of their neighbors. If authorities come for them, they will protect one another, even if they have to take up arms. "I'm looking into securing property that can be formed into a safe area for Americans," Gritz said. "The Ozark station will be affordable, undeveloped, with little or no restrictions." Gritz's increased presence in Missouri intrigues authorities and those who monitor the far right. His appearances, they say, may provide a forum in which disparate zealots can come together. Once together, authorities fear, they may give voice to their anger, which could lead to violence. Talk of a covenant community in the Ozarks also worries observers. "He accumulates into these places a hodgepodge of very eccentric folks," said Bill Wassmuth, director of the Northwest Coalition Against Malicious Harassment, in Seattle. "These leaders fill these guys full of rhetoric and ideas and ultimatums and paranoia and fear and anger, and then, sooner or later, one or two of them loses it...and starts committing violence." Gritz, 60, who lives in the state of Nevada, scoffs at such talk. "Those detractors have never been to Almost Heaven," he said. "They've never read anything I've written or heard anything I've said." Gritz's many followers remain loyal. "If you ever meet the man up close and personal, one of the things that you find with him is a sincerity and an honesty that you can see in his eyes and his face," said Ron Stafford of Kansas City, who calls himself the "general" of the United States Militia. Others in the movement, however, call Gritz a phony. "All Bo Gritz does is get people inflamed," said Clay Douglas, publisher of The Free American Newsmagazine, a patriot publication based in New Mexico. "He doesn't give them any real facts. He doesn't offer any solutions. The only thing he wants to do is take your money and fly around the country in his airplane." No stranger to news Gritz made national headlines in the 1980s when he led several forays into Laos in search of American soldiers who many thought were still being held as prisoners from the war in Vietnam. He made news in 1992 when he talked white separatist Randy Weaver into surrendering in the standoff at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. Four years later he tried -- unsuccessfully -- to mediate in the "freemen" standoff in Jordan, Mont. Last August he led dozens of colleagues through the North Carolina mountains in a fruitless search for Eric Rudolph, a suspect in bombings of abortion clinics. Then, after his wife of 24 years told him she wanted a divorce, Gritz shot himself in the chest. He survived, and many -- including police and his own son -- questioned whether the former Special Forces commander had really intended to kill himself. Gritz says that he wanted to die but now thinks God saved him for a purpose. Whatever people think of Gritz, all agree that he has been a very busy man. Among his accomplishments, all of which can be verified: He earned a bachelor's degree in law and corrections from the University of Nebraska and a master's in communications from American University. He led dozens of special military operations in Southeast Asia. He is a commercial pilot and flight instructor. He holds a sixth-degree black belt in karate. He is an underwater demolitions expert and a certified hypnotherapist. Going beyond accomplishments that can be verified, though, Gritz also says that he was featured as "the" American soldier in Gen. William C. Westmoreland's memoirs, A Soldier Reports. And
