Re: [CTRL] Confused Snow Geese

1999-11-25 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear M. Guzman,

If you want to know more about why the geese are confused and the animals
are changing their places please access:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/signs.htm

It was prophesied 2,500 years ago.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. The only survival-plan that works is available at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/wayad.htm


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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:10 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Confused Snow Geese


 Just another observation from another list..

 Peter

 From: m guzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 One more item before I close down this machine for the day.  I just ran
 outside to watch thousands of Snow Geese overhead; they have been
gathering
 in huge, noisy flocks on a nearby lake.  They are supposed to be migrating
 south (late at that, due to the long warm spell) but today they are flying
 in every direction as if in total confusion.  Long v's start off one way
 then arc about and fly off at 90  degrees then turn again while other
lines
 criss-cross them and yet more lines circle through those and still more
 lines move randomly through them...   I have watched migrating birds for
 many years and have never witnessed such a chaotic pattern, or lack of it.
 Can any of you experts tell me if something is going on with Earth's
 magnetic field?



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Re: [CTRL] Prophets Interpreted

1999-11-24 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear People who are interested in Prophecy,

Please do yourselves a big favour and check out:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/prophecy.htm

and then pass the URL address on to your contacts.

Peace be upon you, for the little time that is remaining.

JAH.


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Subject: [CTRL] Prophets Galore


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 Notes From The Prophets Conference ~ Gregg Braden

 (The following text is an excerpt from a transcription of Gregg Braden's
 presentation at The Prophets Conference which took place last August in
 Port Townsend, Washington.)

 Gregg  Braden blends his experience as a former computer systems
 designer, geologist, and aerospace engineer with the ancient sciences of
 compassion, blessing, and the Essene mysteries of relationship. He
 offers a way to redefine hate, fear, separation, and the role they play
 in our lives as we begin a new planetary cycle. As a world explorer of
 ancient sacred sites, popular and powerful lecturer and author, Gregg
 teaches of the numinous and the path being taken between the physical
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Re: [CTRL] self-perpetuating the system

1999-11-24 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Fransy,

I think you will enjoy the following article at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/why.htm


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 Right on SnoOwl!
 But we know where the "quacks" are, "Social" medicine demands that you
 remain sick to
 self-perpetuate the "system". As for the British (or any other) Medical
 Journal I wouldn't be
 surprised to find someone from the pharmaceutical cartel on their board of
 directors!

 Frans



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Re: [CTRL] Australia's Port Arthur Massacre

1999-11-23 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Earthman,

Hello again; I hope you are well. As this Port Arthur article you've posted
is in harmony with my article about the conspiracy to disarm the British
public, in which I refer to the Port Arthur Massacre, I thought I would send
you the article, in case you haven't seen it and then if you like you could
cut and paste it, or parts of it, into the relative place. Or if you like I
could do it later and post it to you completed.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

My article:-

Please repost to your own mailing lists
and newsgroups and as far and wide as possible - Thanks

Dear Friends, Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

The more I read your various correspondences, the more I see how frightened
and desperate many of you are and from the many reports sent in, about
various government activities, the greater the need for good guidance on how
to defeat the 300 Gang and even more importantly SURVIVE.

With all the measures being taken by so many people; most of which, I'm
sorry to have to tell you, will not be of any use; it appears that whilst
many of you claim to believe IN God, very few seem to BELIEVE God and His
Word.

He has told the world on the last page of the Old Covenant/Testament in
Malachi 4 what every one of you MUST do, if you want to survive not only y2k
but also The Fire, which was re-confirmed by Christ in the Revelation to
John, in Revelation/Apocalypse 14:3 and 15:3.

Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a "New Song" (Isaiah 42:10) before
 the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could
learn that "Song" EXCEPT the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which
were redeemed from the Earth.
15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servant
of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and
marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and TRUE [are] Thy Ways,
Thou King of the holy people.


In both places, you have been told that you MUST return to keeping ONLY
God's Laws and The Covenants - the Old and the New Covenants which are
harmonised and referred to as the "New Song" by Christ in Revelation 14:3
and 15:3 above and by God in Isaiah 42:10.

Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and]
His praise from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and all
that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.
42:11 Let the "wilderness" and the cities thereof lift up [their voice], the
villages [that] Darkness doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the Rock sing,
let them shout from the top of the mountain.
42:12 Let them give glory unto the "I AM", and declare His praise in the
islands.
42:13 The "I AM" shall go forth as a mighty man, He shall stir up jealousy
like a man of WAR: He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall PREVAIL against His
enemies.


I have placed the "New Song" that every one of you who wants to survive and
live in God's Kingdom MUST learn and live by, on my website:-

http://www/geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/nsongad.htm please retrieve;
download and use it, now.

Christ has told you clearly that out of 6,000,000,000 million people only
144,000 will be able to learn to live this "New Song" and the rest will not
survive, because they only believe IN Him, instead of BELIEVING Him and
getting to KNOW God by following Christ's teachings, to the letter, and not
the many varied and conflicting teachings of the many different christian
churches.

It seems you are all far more pre-occupied with the 300 Gang, than in
following God's survival instructions. Those who KNOW God should not be the
least bit worried about anything or what anyone might, or might not, try to
do to their body.

What is the point of surviving the y2k, or attacks by  foreign or domestic
governments, or the U.N., NWO, if you are not going to survive what God has
in store for you very soon, anyway.
For confirmation of the time please see "Signs of the End Times" on my site.

Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and
all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day
that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it
shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with
healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the
stall (in perfect safety).
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the
soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord
of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded
unto him in Horeb (Sinai) for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the
great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the
heart of the children to their fathers, (by recovering 

[CTRL] The Conspiracy to hide The Ark

1999-11-21 Thread JAH Publications




The Ark and Ethiopia and Roslyn Chapel 
Conspiracy.
The main smoke-screens:-
Here is evidence for those who think The Ark is in Ethiopia; Roslyn Chapel or 
under the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The Ethiopian legend is found in the 
Kebra Negast. The union of king Solomon and the queen of Sheba produced a 
son known as Menelik. The birth occurred after the queen's departure for her 
home. Hearing of his father's fame, the son went to see Solomon in Jerusalem. 
During this visit, the wisest man in the world somehow allowed his offspring to 
escape with The Ark? Not likely. Solomon had one of the region's best spy 
networks. He had vast armies and a navy and ruled the known world. Solomon would 
have gone to war to retrieve The Ark. If there is anything at all to the legend, 
it may be that a replica was given to Menelik. 
Further research into the Holy Scriptures reveals that God Himself has told 
us that The Ark of The Covenant was still in Jerusalem 350 years after Menelik 
lived.
Four sources tell us that The Ark was still in Jerusalem, hundreds of years 
after Solomon. The Jewish Chronology known as Seder Ha Olam 
reveals that king Solomon finished the First Temple in the Jewish year 2932. 
II kings during the reign of king Hezekiah and then II Chronicles, in 
Chapter 35 verse 3, states, "King Josiah said to the Levites, who 
instructed all Israel and who had been consecrated to the "I AM": "Put The Ark 
in The Temple that Solomon had built. It is not to be carried about on your 
shoulders." King Josiah ruled 350 years after Solomon. Prior to the 
fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians in 3338, the Prophet Jeremiah hid The 
Ark. This account is found in II Maccabees. Rabbi Naftali Hertz' book 
Emek Ha Melek (published in 1648), reveals that five tzaddikim 
(righteous men) made an inventory of all of the sacred objects that were hidden 
by Jeremiah, seven years before the destruction of Jerusalem in 3331. They 
inscribed their inventory on a Copper Scroll. One of these objects was The Ark 
of The Covenant. Obviously, The Ark was still in Jewish hands. And this is 
399 years after Solomon installed it in the First Temple. 
2 kings:-
19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the "I AM", and said, O "I AM" God of 
Israel, Which dwellest [between] the cherubims, Thou art The God, [even] 
Thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; Thou hast made heaven and 
earth.
2 Chronicles:-
34:29 Then the king sent and gathered together all the elders of Judah and 
Jerusalem.
34:30 And the king went up into The House of the "I AM", and all the men of 
Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the priests, and the Levites, and 
all the people, great and small: and he read in their ears all the words of the 
Book of the Covenant that was found in The House of the "I AM".
34:31 And the king stood in his place (by The Pillar [Jacob's]), and made a 
covenant before the "I AM", to walk after the "I AM", and to keep His 
Commandments, and His Testimonies, and His Statutes, with all his heart, and 
with all his soul, to perform the words of The Covenant which are written in 
this Book (The Torah).
34:32 And he caused all that were present in Jerusalem and Benjamin to stand 
[to it]. And the inhabitants of Jerusalem did according to The Covenant of God, 
the God of their fathers.
34:33 And Josiah took away all the abominations out of all the countries that 
[pertained] to the children of Israel, and made all that were present in Israel 
to serve, [even] to serve the "I AM" their God. [And] all his days they departed 
not from following the "I AM", the God of their fathers.
35:1 Moreover Josiah kept a Passover unto the "I AM" in Jerusalem: and they 
killed the Passover on the fourteenth [day] of the first month.
35:2 And he set the priests in their charges, and encouraged them to the 
service of The House of the "I AM",
35:3 And said unto the Levites that taught all Israel, which were holy unto 
the "I AM", Put the holy Ark in The House which Solomon the son of David king 
of Israel did build; [it shall] not [be] a burden upon [your] shoulders: 
serve now the "I AM" your God, and His people Israel,

The Babylonians only carried off the objects that had been made for the First 
Temple built by Solomon. They did not plunder the most sacred objects 
fashioned at Mount Sinai such as The Ark, the Breastplate of the High Priest and 
the Menorah , the Kalal containing the Ashes of the Red Cow and the 
Mishkan (Tabernacle). So, according to the Copper Scroll and Emek 
HaMelek (which is based on an addition to the Talmud known as a 
Tosefta ), The Ark was hidden in a "Cave with Two Columns, near the 
River of the Dome." 
So now we have conclusive proof that not only is The Ark of The Covenant not 
at Marys Chapel at Axum or at Tana Kirkos, in Ethiopia; but that it has 
never been there. Consequently we also now have conclusive proof that the 
Knights Templar did not find The Ark in Jerusalem because it had been 
removed by Jeremiah 1700 

Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread JAH Publications

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You say the last you KNEW. I think you mean the last you HEARD.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


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 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:
 No it isn't. Roslyn Chapel has already been investigated and The Ark
proved
 not to be there.

 Investigated by whom?  Last I knew (and this was only a few weeks ago),
 there is a vault under Rosslyn Chapel that still is not open to public
 scrutiny, and purports to hold 'something' which the current caretakers
 consider of immense value


 June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread JAH Publications

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Nice one, Joshua. Made me smile too.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


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 David Rupp wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
  http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
  It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
Israeli
  government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find
a
  new crusade. Good luck!
 
  David Rupp
  Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
  http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.

 I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in
 a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA.

 Joshua2 ;}

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-20 Thread JAH Publications

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No it isn't. Roslyn Chapel has already been investigated and The Ark proved
not to be there.

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


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 The Ark is under the floor of Roselyn Chapel.



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Re: [CTRL] This is not the Bible discussion list. . .

1999-11-20 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Eagle 1,

I am very glad to see that you are 
obviously feeling much better now, which is confirmed by the sensible and good 
message you have posted to Terry and carbon copied to CTRL.

Thank you for taking the time to 
calmly compose and send this well written message to Terry and the rest of us, 
via the CTRL list. I for one appreciate it, even if no-one else does; but I hope 
that everyone does.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eagle 1 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 4:53 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] This is not the Bible 
  discussion list. . .
  
  Terry, I happen to agree that 
  certain Biblical issues are clearly discussions of 'Conspiracy Theory' and are 
  of Satan... but in this group, it has been clearly stated by the 
  owner (who does not believe that satan even exists), and by others comments 
  that they do not see Biblical discussions as anything to do with conspiracy 
  theory. To force issues on others is inflammatory and often drives 
  people away from further research on such topics.
  I will throw this out there for the fact 
  of the matter that thereIS conspiracy discussed in the 
  Bible and for anyone who is interested, theymay check it out for 
  themselves...
  Satan conspired to tempt andaccomplished 
  his deed in Genesis chapter 3, when he tempted Eve. 
  Lucifer,one in the same personnage 
  as Satan, conspired to take the place of God, - Isaiah 
  14:12-16
  Conspiracy/ conspire / conspirators in 
  the Bible is mentioned in the following passages: 
  Genesis 37:18; 
  1 Samuel 22:8  13;
  2 Samuel 15:12 
   31;
  1 Kings 15:27; 
  1 Kings 16:9  16; 
  2 Kings 9: 14; 
  2 Kings 10:9
  2 Kings 12: 20; 
  2 Kings 14:19; 
  2 Kings 15:10, 15, 25  30;
  2 Kings 17:4;
  2 Kings 21:23  24; 
  2 Chronicles 24: 21  25-26; 
  2 Chronicles 25:27;
  2 Chronicles 33:24-25;
  Nehemiah 4:8; 
   
  Jeremiah 
  11:9;
  Ezekiel 22:25;
  Amos 7:10; 
  Acts 23:13;
  As well as in many other passages where it is 
  clearly defined and implied.
  
  So anyone who would say that there is no 
  conpiracy discussed in the Bible, simply has not read their Bible, 
  or has not understood that the root evil discussed in the Bible is derived all 
  from a conspiracy by one called Satan, who goes by many other names such as 
  Lucifer, Angel of Light, Son of the Morning, Haylel, the Devil, Old 
  Dragon, Red Dragon, the Serpent, the Beast, Beelzebub, etc. as well as 
  many other names too numerous to mention here. 
  
  eagle 1
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Terry Cox 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 9:29 
PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] This is not the 
Bible discussion list. . .

TenebrousT,
What is your 
advice to me, who sees many conspiracies as headed by 
Satan?Are people like merightfully part of this group or 
not? I think there is a difference between stating the source of 
conspiracy theories and preaching religion and I think we follow that pretty 
well. I'd appreciate your clarification. 
Thanks.
Terry

 - Original Message - 

  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 12:30 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] This is not the Bible 
  discussion list. . .
  -Caveat Lector-Some people may find the links in 
  this message of use, but let me say that Idon't want this list turned 
  into a forum for Bible thumping and beliefbashing. Thus I will 
  ask that we limit what we say and do in this regard tothe discussion 
  of religion and its relation to Conspiracy Theory, rather 
  thanApologetics, Hermeneutics, Theology, or other issues that have as 
  their basisindividual belief and faith issues that should be left to 
  each to decide forthemselves. The disclaimer in every post is 
  explicit in this regard.Thank you for the links and thank you for 
  heeding this advice.


Re: [CTRL] Choking Down Genetically Modified Food

1999-11-17 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Alamaine,

For the real reasoning behind G.M. crops please access:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm

I hope you enjoy it.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Alamaine Ratliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 9:32 PM
Subject: [CTRL] (Fwd) Choking Down Genetically Modified Food


 -Caveat Lector-

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 Date sent:  16 Nov 1999 15:57:20 -

 Information on this email course appears at the bottom.

 The Politics of Genetically Modified Food

 Fact or Fiction?: Genetically modified food will be vital to solving world
 hunger by increasing crop yields. By incorporating natural pesticides it
 can reduce the need for spraying herbicides and pesticides and add
 diversity to the gene pool by expanding genetic combinations not possible
 through natural evolution. Despite worries of unlikely experimental
 mishaps, life science companies are out to do their best to help farmers
 and feed the world.

 In "Against the Grain: Biotechnology and the Corporate Takeover of Your
 Food," Marc Lappe and Britt Bailey reveal some deeply rooted problems with
 this rosy assessment.

 1. Early evidence suggests that genetically modified crops have per acre
 yields that are 10 percent lower, not higher than their unmodified
 counterparts.

 2.  By next year, Monsanto, one of the largest companies, is aiming to
 have 100 percent of soybeans grown in the U.S. be genetically modified.
 Such monoculture will destroy, not enhance genetic diversity.

 3. While some genetically modified crops such as corn have been altered so
 that natural pesticides are built in, others like soybeans are genetically
 modified to withstand more herbicide spraying -- herbicides made by
 Monsanto. By selling the seeds, and forcing farmers to sign contracts to
 use their herbicide, Monsanto ensures a monopoly and a lock on profits for
 both seed and spray.

 4. Monsanto's herbicide, called Round-Up, can now be sprayed more heavily
 thanks to the EPA, which tripled the amount of Round-Up residue permitted
 to remain on crops.

 5. Crops that incorporate pesticides have other problems. Where once Bt
 was seen as a natural pesticide safe for use by organic farmers because it
 is an organism that occurs naturally in the soil, now widespread use of
 the Bt gene inserted into crops such as potatoes may end its own
 usefulness as bugs become resistant to it. But in the short term, it's a
 great way to build profits -- for the so-called life science companies.
 Dow chemical scientists estimate that, because of this growing resistance,
 the usefulness of Bt will end within a decade.

 6. Monopoly almost always means the ability to raise prices, which will
 further destroy small farms in favor of big ones. This decreases local
 self-reliance -- a lynch pin in the fight against famine -- in favor of
 corporate entities focused on maximizing investor profit.

 7. With no requirements for labeling, consumers have no choice but to eat
 genetically modified food. Worse, epidemiological studies that look at
 large populations, which are the only means by which health effects of
 these modifications could be determined, can't be carried out--because
 there's no way to determine who in a study has eaten what.

 These facts come from "Against the Grain: Biotechnology and the Corporate
 Takeover of Your Food" by Marc Lappe and Britt Bailey.
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 Also available is the Beyond the Book interview with the authors, "You Are
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Re: [CTRL] (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter

1999-11-17 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear David,

Thank you for your kind words about the article about "Why people REALLY
take drugs" at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/drugs.htm

and I am very pleased that you like it and want to use it in letter form for
the GPW2000.

As soon as I get a spare moment I will do it and send it to you.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. I notice you are at lightspeed. Perhaps you and they might like to look
at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/starwar.htm


- Original Message -
From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter


 Yes it is a good message that spiritual reawakening is more "high" and
 better than and drug.  This message is of ultimate importance for
resolving
 the desire for folks to use drugs at all.   If you can formulate/format
this
 your message in this regard by way of a letter of support for Global Peace
 Walk 2000 we will be happy to include it in the compilation of survival
 issue messages that the walk is carrying.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter


 Dear Davy,
 
 Please take a look at "Why people REALLY take drugs"; at:-
 
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/drugs.htm
 
 I hope you enjoy it and will pass it on to your friends, and/or you and
 them
 make links to it. Perhaps it will help everyone. I certainly hope so.
 
 Peace be upon you,
 
 JAH.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:11 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] How to end (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter



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Re: [CTRL] (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter

1999-11-17 Thread JAH Publications
 We have been conned into believing that, by using something 
physical, our Spirits / Beings / Souls (the real us); which are non-physical 
Light / Essence; will feel better. With every comedown you feel WORSE and the 
next "high" is always LOWER. The only permanent solution is to learn how to use 
your will-power, not only so you "don't take drugs", including pharmaceutical 
ones, but primarily to water the vast spiritual desert inside every one of us 
and fulfill the very reason for our existence.

Behind the minute "reality" this world and its people see, is a GLORIOUS 
and IMMENSE EXPANSE of TRUTH simply lying there waiting to be discovered by us. 
Truth IS stranger than fiction. No fable even begins to compare with the Script 
of Life that has been written by The Author Himself. It is our ignorance / 
arrogance (the 2 sides of the SAME coin) that prevents us from learning to read 
it (we think we know all there is to know).

How long will we vote for and thereby give our permission to the love-less 
"System" and those who actually LIKE it, to LAUGH at US? How long will we allow 
them to drive the "hippies" (FREEMEN AND WOMEN) into their "communities" (into 
themselves) where they cannot do any damage to the evil in the world? It is not 
the "gays" who have to come out of the closet...it is those who love GOOD, 
JUSTICE and FREEDOM (if they ARE free AND fear-less)...

How long will we perpetuate this lie? How long will we let our WILL (our 
spirit) go to waste because of lack of spiritual-exercise? How long shall we ask 
GOD to forgive us for being so stupid? How long shall it take, Rebels, for us to 
fight back...?

It's the System that drives us to drugs and is destroying us, my friends. 
If we don't destroy it, while we still have the opportunity, and replace it with 
loving and caring, before it's too late, we certainly won't be able to once it 
has already succeeded in destroying us.

If YOU see the truth of it, then you are ready for "The Way Home" (the kick 
start) by JAH, The Revealer.

"THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE (AND IN HERE),IT'S JUST BURIED UNDER TONS OF 
LIES."

For your copy of "The Way Home", send £10 Sterling or $20 U.S. to:-
JAH, P.O. Box 561, The Way Home, 6205, Gibraltar, (Via London).


They don't make profits, but you will need to buy a copy.

It is not a religious document, it is The TRUTH. - Danny.




- Original Message - 
From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support 
letter
 Yes it is a good message that spiritual 
reawakening is more "high" and better than and drug. This message 
is of ultimate importance for resolving the desire for folks to use 
drugs at all. If you can formulate/format this your message 
in this regard by way of a letter of support for Global Peace Walk 2000 
we will be happy to include it in the compilation of survival issue 
messages that the walk is carrying.  -Original 
Message- From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 
November 16, 1999 12:04 PM Subject: Re: (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 
support letter   Dear Davy,  
Please take a look at "Why people REALLY take drugs"; at:- 
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/drugs.htm 
 I hope you enjoy it and will pass it on to your friends, and/or 
you and them make links to it. Perhaps it will help 
everyone. I certainly hope so.  Peace be upon 
you,  JAH.   - 
Original Message - From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:11 PM Subject: [CTRL] How to 
end (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter


Re: [CTRL] Dunblane / Masonic Cover up or HMG's Plan?

1999-11-16 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

 Dear Glancebak,

 I am sending you the following article because it is another slant on
Dunblane that I feel you might find interesting. I would like your opinion
please if you have time to reply.

 Peace be upon you,

 JAH.

 The article:-

 I sent the following info. to USCMike1 but decided to send it to you too.

 Please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks


 Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al,

 It should be of very great interest to you and your readers, who probably
are not aware of the very similar events that took place, in order to disarm
the law-abiding public in Britain, to know how it was successfully
accomplished.

Dr. John Coleman, in his book "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the
Committee of 300", has stated that in 1968 the Committee of 300, which he
says is run from England and headed by Elizabeth 2, established the "Club of
Rome" and planned its strategy for total world domination; the future
mass-reduction by 95% of the world's population and the need to disarm the
law-abiding public in order to be able to bring that about. It should also
be of interest to the God-fearing American people, who REALLY trust in Him,
(In God we trust) that God says that Rome is the new Babylon, that He
intends to make war against and destroy, as Christ explains in the Book of
Revelation, chapters 17; 18 and19 in The Holy Bible (the last book in The
Bible).

Accordingly, the British Parliament brought into law "The Firearms Act"
1968.
Note well, that it was in 1968 - the exact same year Coleman quotes, for the
establishment of the Committee of 300's "Club of Rome", in the country ruled
by the head of the Committee of 300 - Elizabeth 2.

The pretext used, as always, was to prevent armed crime. The Firearms Act
was only the first stage in their devious evil plot to totally disarm the
British public. They always do it in stages, because it's easier that way.
It generates less resistance when done a little at a time - Fabianism; the
preferred method of the 300 Club. Under the 1968 Act they disarmed the
law-abiding British public and allowed sporting shooters, who had to become
members of registered gun clubs, to apply for Firearms Certificates, on
which it specified the serial number; type and calibre of each weapon; the
amount of each calibre of ammunition that could be purchased and held at any
one time and limiting the number of weapons held by each individual, who had
to justify why he wanted each individual weapon. No fully-automatic weapons
could be held by the law-abiding public.

Once the "Firearms Act 1968" was firmly in place and the public could not
hold automatic weapons, succeeding governments gave increasing power to
police-authorities to tighten their criteria about who could be granted a
Firearms Certificate and they gradually tightened the criteria to disarm
more and more law-abiding citizens, using financial means.  Increasing the
necessary home-security measures needed, in order to get a certificate
granted or renewed, with more and more expensive security measures being
required, made it so that only the wealthy could afford these measures and
the poorer people were gradually deprived of their weapons, because they
could not afford the necessary home-security devices required by chief
police-officers.

Once this had been completed, the next phase of the operation came into
force after a "crazed" gunman called Michael Ryan ran amok with a
semi-automatic Kalashnikov AK47 and murdered 14 people in Hungerford,
England, because he knew that, as a direct result of the "Firearms Act",
no-one else had a gun with which to stop him. The next phase, resulting from
this multiple-shooting, was for the government to completely ban private
ownership of all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.

I wrote to British shooting magazines at that time and spoke to friends and
told them that if they didn't get together and act "as one" to fight any
further moves by the government to control firearms, they would all end up
with no guns. They all decided to "keep their heads down" and hope for the
best, without being willing to stand up and fight, peacefully, for their
rights. Today those people I warned, way back then, have no guns, and all
admit that I was right. Of course I was, but now it's too late.

Allowing a short, but long enough break, so as to not make it too obvious;
the next phase was put into operation, after Thomas Hamilton, another
"crazed" gunman shot some school-children at Dunblane in Scotland, because
he also knew that, as a direct result of the "Firearms Act", no-one else
would have a gun with which to stop him. The result of this was the total
banning of the law-abiding sports-shooting gun-club members of the public
from owning any handgun of any type and calibre.

One has to ask oneself, whether these two people were "crazed" or
mind-controlled, as has been suggested about their American counterparts, to
"appear" crazed and commit these crimes, 

Re: [CTRL] ELIBARIMDA: The book

1999-11-16 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

 Dear Rodrigo,

 Thank you for the correct Portugese spelling of outra (otra is Spanish -
 sorry thought it might be the same).

 I don't know about the book you mentioned ELIBARIMDA but there is another
 book about the same subject and the muder of John Paul 1 by poisoning
after
 33 days in office, called "In God's Name" by David Yallup, published by
 Corgi. Full of facts.

 If you haven't read it already it is well worth reading.

 Paz,

 JAH.

 P.S. for those who are interested in more info on this subject, please
check
 out:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm


 - Original Message -
 From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:35 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] "ELIBARIMDA": The book


  -Caveat Lector-
 
  Hello nice folks!
 
  Someone know anything know a book edited  printed in Italia
  which talk about the corruption of the Catholic Church? If yes,
  where find something about it? If no resources on web, where buy?



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Re: [CTRL] (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter

1999-11-16 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Davy,

Please take a look at "Why people REALLY take drugs"; at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/drugs.htm

I hope you enjoy it and will pass it on to your friends, and/or you and them
make links to it. Perhaps it will help everyone. I certainly hope so.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: [CTRL] How to end (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter




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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
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Re: [CTRL] Tesla a Nicolaitane

1999-11-16 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Terry,

Thanks for your common-sense approach and for 
supporting the Truth of my article at:- 

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm


Peace be upon you,

JAH.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Cox 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:37 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] Tesla a Nicolaitane
  
  Pennie,
  
  For you to hold that the Greek 
  word Nikolaitianscould refer to Tesla is totally ludicrous. Why 
  don't YOU stop "forcing your misinterpretations of the Bible on us". And 
  from your included quote, all Jah did was recite what the Bible said. 
  
  
  
  Nikolaites, Greek 3531, Strongs
  Nikolaites, nik-ol-ah-ee'-tace; from Greek 3532 (Nikolaos); a 
  Nicolaïte, i.e. adherent of Nicolau`s :- Nicolaitane.
  
  Nikolaos, Greek 3532, Strongs
  Nikolaos, nik-ol'-ah-os; from Greek 3534 (nikos) and Greek 2994 
  (Laodikeus); victorious over the people; Nicolau`s, a heretic :- 
  Nicolaus.
  
  nikos, Greek 3534, Strongs
  nikos, nee'-kos; from Greek 3529 (nike); a conquest 
  (concrete), i.e. (by implication) triumph :- victory.
  nike, nee'-kay; apparently a primary word; conquest 
  (abstract), i.e. (figurative) the means of success :- victory.
  ===
  Followers of Nicolaus, a heretic. They are thought to have been a sect of 
  Gnostics who practiced and taught impure and immoral doctrines, such as the 
  community of wives, that committing adultery and fornication was not sinful, 
  and that eating meats offered to idols was lawful. This was similar to the 
  doctrines of Balaam and Jezebel of Thyatira (Rev. 2:6,14-15,20).
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
pennie hammons 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 3:10 
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ 
hates xmas
-Caveat Lector-Jah, The 
Greek word is Nikolaitians which in my opinion could refer to theNikola 
Tesla's patents that were used to build the HAARP and the 
Soviets'Woodpecker. Christ hates mind control. Or maybe even Nikolai 
Lenin thecreator of oppresive communism. Or Jack Nicholas? Golf is an 
evil thingYOU don't know what it means, anymore than the rest of us 
do. It's all justspeculation. But I do know this: "One man considers one 
day more sacred thananother; another man considers every day alike. Each 
one should be fullyconvinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as 
special, does so to theLord." Romans 14:5-6I celebrate Christmas as 
a celebration of the birth of Jesus, not for somepagan god I know 
nothing about; therefore it IS holy, no matter what day Hewas actually 
born. Stop forcing your misinterpretations of the Bible on us.Peace be 
on YOU! PennieJah wrote: Christ says he HATES, 
in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the 
Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of 
Santa (Ni)-Claus,


Re: [CTRL] Center of Attention - The Ark.

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Jason,

The only way to bring about the downfall of the forces of darkness and the
"Evil Empire" and bring the Force of Light into action is to recover The Ark
of The Covenant, from the Hill of Tara (Torah) in County Meath, Ireland and
then the duped lower echelons, as you call them, will snap out of it and
change sides and help the people who want to learn to be good to survive.

Please visit:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ and click on
JAH, on the homepage. I think that's what you're looking for.

Then contact me and I'll give you further information about the
Survival-Plan. There is a mountain of information there including a small
section containing information about UFO's that you should find enlightening
if that is your main interest. One piece you should really like is:-

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm

I will tell you everything you need to do to survive, including where and
how you have to be. But first we must recover The Ark and draw the people
who want to be good towards The Light. Those who come to The Light will be
saved. Those who don't, don't deserve to be.

Some of what you have said is way off the mark, but quite a lot of what you
have said is true, especially about what people must do in order to get the
Force of Light to intervene and save them.

I don't have time to go through your article line by line and tell you which
bits are right and which bits are wrong, just now, but if you study my
website you should be able to figure some of it out for yourself and then
I'll do the rest for you, if you want me to.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date sent:  Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:06:25 -0500 (EST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:   Jason Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Jon
Locke)
 Subject:[illusions] Center of Attention newsletter #118
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Center of Attention newsletter
 Twice, Monthly newsletter about UFOs Angels, and the NWO.
 The Ascension of Earth.

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 Center of Attention newsletter #118
 Nov. 1999

 UFO Intelligence Apparatus
 Part III
 by Jason Dunlap

 In the past two issues, I showed how a vast, technologically advanced,
network of government sponsored agencies and personnel, have evolved into a
giant UFO Intelligence apparatus.  I believe the term "apparatus" is more
appropriate than agency, or Cabal.  It's more like a thing, a loosely,
flung-together contraption, controlled by the many arms of the
"octopus-like" arms of the power-elite.  The Apparatus operates for the
benefit of an elite agenda to dominate and control the world population.
 The first thing to truly understand is that there really is a relatively
small group of people that use their vast wealth and resources to fulfill an
agenda of world conquest, which they and their ancestors have been committed
to for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

 At this time in history, the elite are in possession of awesome, advanced
alien technology that gives them an unbelievable advantage over the
resources available to anyone who might oppose their agenda.  The price
these fools have paid to be given absolute control is to be subservient to
the advanced beings that gave them the technology.  They'll be kings, but
will have to run things the way the "evil empire" wants them to.  They
don't really believe that will be a problem, however.  They look at it as
an inevitable initiation into a great Galactic Brotherhood.  They consider
being Planetary Kings an honored place in the vast working of galactic
society.  Their true destiny, amounts to nothing more than prison camp
turn-coats.  The beings they are dealing with, intend to use the humanity
of Earth as a mere resource of food, labor and amusement.

 The UFO Intelligence Apparatus includes certain departments in every
secret government agency.  Most of the people involved, unwittingly
cooperate with the hidden agendas of the power elite.  This includes the
military of every country, the national security agencies of every
country, and the United Nations.  To this end, every conceivable means to
control the activities, and behavior of every person has been developed.
They have secret weapons capable of awesome destruction.  They developed
mind control technology to sway the emotions, and thoughts of any targeted
person or general area.  On the political side, agendas for population
control, depopulation, genetic and ethic selection are being fulfilled using
technology developed from alien provided information.  Recent reports, from
reliable sources within the darkest corners of government, 

Re: [CTRL] Who they are.

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications




  Dear Joshua2,
  
  I know you don't like my website at:- 
  
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
  
  as you have stated so very clearly; publicly and 
  aggressively, but if you really think you are Joshua the Second and you want 
  to bring down the Wallstreet of Jericho, I suggest politely, if you want to 
  know who "they" are, that you access:- 
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/300.htm 
  
  
  and enjoy yourself reading the list of names, 
  that you are looking for. Then go get them, like Michael told you to 
  do.
  
  Peace be upon you,
  
  JAH.


Re: [CTRL] Wrong Terms Mislead Public About Guns

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

 Dear Bob,

 The world is full of misleading terms that are purposely designed to
deceive the sheeple.

 Please check out:-

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/defin.htm

 for a list of some of them. Hope you enjoy it and will want to add to it.
If so please email to me and I can update it. That goes for all of you.

 Peace be upon you,

 JAH.


 - Original Message -
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:54 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Wrong Terms Mislead Public About Guns


  -Caveat Lector-
 
  http://www.seattle-pi.com/opinion/soap06.shtml
 
  Wrong terms mislead the public about guns
 
 
 
  Saturday, November 6, 1999
 
  By MICHAEL S. BROWN
  SPECIAL TO THE POST-INTELLIGENCER
 
 
  The ability to control the terminology in a debate conveys a powerful
  advantage. In the national gun-control debate, this principle has been
  expertly exploited by gun-control advocates. The emotionally charged,
but
 the
  technically meaningless term "assault weapon" is a case in point.
 




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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications
n each of our lives is private
 information between each individual and God Himself. (It is no one else's
 business, because no one will stand for you on judgment day, except you
and
 Christ, the principle advocate. The slate will either be clean or filthy.
 There is no in between and there is no hiding the record of the book from
 the ultimate Judge).

 If  *God left no artifacts*, including not leaving the body of Moses, nor
 the body of Christ after their deaths,  what makes anyone think that God
 would be stupid enough to leave behind an article such as the 'ark of the
 covenant'?  He is not stupid,  and He didn't leave it!   It won't be
found,
 until EVERYONE,  (that is A-L-L), see it in His temple as stated in
 Revelation 11:19.   It simply makes no sense to think that God will prefer
 any one hu-man over another to discover this holy item or any other holy
 item on the face of the earth.   Taking from scriptural knowledge, in
 Revelation,   NO MAN WAS WORTHY TO OPEN THE BOOK.  In the same respect,
why
 would you think, JAH,  that you alone are most worthy to find and possess
 the 'ark of the covenant'???  That is almost laughable...  and verges on
 blasphemy.  God knows men's hearts better than they do; they are greedy,
 selfish and unforgiving.  God is not going to give to man what is HIS
until
 the end of this age.  God has given more than enough since the beginning.
 God is not happy with man and man's decisions to follow other gods and
other
 doctrines than those He has set forth in His book - See Ezekiel chapter 34
 for a run down on this.  ANYONE who professes to know the truth of God,
and
 so convey it by teaching or by example is considered a 'shepherd of the
 people' ...  and according to God there are many out there that HE DID NOT
 SEND to the people. They are self annointed, self righteous hypocrits!
That
 is exactly what Jesus called the Pharisees many times; and it wasn't
because
 he couldn't find other words to describe them...  He meant what he said,
 "hypocrits", who are nothing more than "play actors", those who love to
 "play church"; those who come in the name of God, but God did not send.
 THOSE are the ones that give true Christianity a black eye.  And is it no
 wonder that so many in the world do not know or understand the foundations
 of Christianity; nor from what they've heard do they want to know.
 Personally,  I don't blame them,  when they know they've been lied to
going
 in the gate.

 Properly interpreted,  the scriptures in that same mentioned chapter of
 Matthew 24 clearly state in plain english,  "... Then if any man shall say
 unto you, 'LO! here is Christ   **[which includes the personnages, His
 temple, the furniture in the temple and all that belongs to God]**,
 BELIEVE IT NOT!
 For there shall arise false Christs [those making claims to all things
 concerning God] and false prophets, and shall show great signs and
wonders;
 insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 Behold, I have told you [all things] before [in advance].
 Wherefore if they shall say unto you,  BEHOLD! HE [anything that pertains
to
 the true God and His Savior] is in the desert, go not forth;  BEHOLD HE is
 in the secret chambers [those making claims to esoteric knowledge];
believe
 it not!  For as the lightening cometh out of the east and shineth even
unto
 the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 Matthew 24:23-27

 It's simply saying that until the true Christ appears,  and as long as you
 are in the flesh body, you are not going to possess, nor see the things of
 God.

 Pennie implicated false prophet, false information was being spread...
 I have to agree.

 Keep up the good work Pennie!  Uncovering the sugar coated lies of satan,
is
 what business of our Father's we are to be at.  Thanks for this expose`.

 eagle 1


 - Original Message -
 From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


  -Caveat Lector-
 
  Dear Pennie,
 
  Thank you for your nice compliment about my maturity.
 
  How would you know whether I have quoted the Scriptures out of context
or
  not. You are doing it again. Claiming to be an expert on God, when it is
  quite obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. Have you
 not
  heard that: a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.
 
  How would you know what God would and wouldn't do? You talk as though He
  would first need to consult you and ask you what He is allowed to do.
  Amazing really.
 
  The Ruler of The Universe has said quite clearly that The Ark and The
  Covenant containing His Laws is the one thing to save the world. Please
 read
  that Bible you boast about having and look at the last page of the Old
  Covenant/Testament, or click on JAH on my homepage, and read what it
says
 in
  Malachi chapter 4 and you will see that it 

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

I agree with you. But then I didn't start it in the first place. I'm not
back-biting; haven't called anyone any name or insulted anyone. Just
defending myself. Sorry.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 I am going to REQUEST that this thread stop as it now has nothing to do
with
 conspiracy theory and is no longer an issue that can be persued on this
list.
  IF the participants wish to continue the back and forht back-biting and
name
 calling then they can do it OFF-LIST


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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Sorry Tenorlove,

I'm only defending myself and have attacked no-one. If they stop attacking
me; I'll have no need to defend myself.

Hope we're still friends.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 OT? Yes, OT, as in OLD TOPIC--VERY old topic, in fact. So PLEASE take
 the flame war off list--especially those writers who have not mastered
 "cut and paste"--so that the rest of us have room in our mailboxes for
 stuff like book chapters etc. Thanks for hearing me out.

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Terry Cox,

Not only is Santa (anagram for Satan) Claus not 
christian, Christ stated in The Bible that he HATES it:-


X-MASS - YULETIDE 
A PAGAN FESTIVAL
(which is actually condemned by Christ)

CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed 
by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 
2.
 
  
  Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was 
  originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian 
  Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they 
  were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and 
  they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it 
  made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the 
  Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, 
  mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new 
  religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ 
  taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god 
  worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater 
  NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called 
  "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples 
  called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The 
  Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.SUNday is 
  the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the 
  SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity 
  perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in 
  their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which 
  the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly 
  opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must 
  NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all 
  churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to 
  December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which 
  Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in 
  Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ 
  hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and 
  Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility 
  not crucifixion).
  Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest 
  the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.Verse 
  15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the 
  followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I 
  (Christ) HATE.The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide 
  (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, 
  which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God 
  or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses 
  above.SANTA CLAUS WEARS 
  SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see 
  Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).
  SANTA 
  CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE 
  DEVIL.There is nothing Godly about 
  Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians 
  celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certianly NOT Christ or 
  his apostles.A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, 
  does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not 
  imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.The 
  "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when 
  "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of 
  death.The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in 
  the fields, just like the Second Coming.The fact that the three 
  kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan 
  to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even 
  increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). 
  So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of 
  money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to 
  falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't 
  afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their 
  merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, 
  driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves 
  richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The 
  original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich 
  to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or 
  teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have 
  turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to 
  the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. 
  Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says 
  the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the 
  

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Ward,

Thank you very much for your loving and kind letter and good wishes. It is
very kind of you to take the trouble to write to me and express your
concerns for me.

Please do not worry about me because I am in no danger. What I have told you
is the Truth and not pride. When one speaks the truth with certainty it is
often mis-interpreted as pride, when in fact it is only the truth.

You sound like a very nice person and I hope that you will study the
information on my site and eventually come to realise that it is not from me
but from the source of all truth. I only wrote it down.

If I called it God's website rather than my website that would also be
mis-interpreted as pride, etc., so I just call it my website. People can
make up their own minds once they have studied the information. For those
who haven't visited it yet its URL address is:-

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/


I have not read Eagle1's letter yet, so I cannot comment on it. But thanks
again for your love.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Ward Christman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 2:45 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member
(fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 Jah, I do not see that Pennie has claimed, as you do, to be an expert on
God.  Frankly I am concerned for you Jah, both psychologically and
spiritually.  It is obvious from your postings that you believe that you are
Elijah, thus the shortened form Jah.  However, your actions here online give
away the fact that you couldn't be.

 Elijah was a prophet who told people God's will, and did take action for
God, but do you truly believe that Elijah would behave as you have?  While
being sure in his statements and actions on behalf of God's will, Elijah did
not try to "correct" people who are following the will of God as stated in
the bible by referring them to his own compositions.  He also did not argue
with others about their standpoint on issues and give in to asserting petty,
playground attacks ("Pennie and Joshua sittin' in a tree").  He stated the
will of God and acted as he was led by God to be an example for others.  He
did not give way to the weakness of the pride that is evident in everything
that you write.

 Not only have we all heard that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, I
see it demonstrated on a daily basis.  You would be suprised how many people
there are out there who are lucky enough to be given some insight into the
meaning of certain parts of the Bible.  Unfortunately many of them allow
this to go to their head and assume that they have a greater understanding,
or perhaps even worse, a more meaningful relationship with God than anyone
else has.

 These people often become so confused that they think that every thought
they have must be from God, and often stop listening to God altogether
without ever even realizing that they have.  Some even become so confused as
to start believing that they are a returned prophet or even Jesus himself,
and will often think that they are charged with the responsibility to
perform a certain task which will bring about the time of judgement and
prepare the way for The Kingdom Of God.  This is God's responsibility.

 I do not think from Pennie's comment about UFOs that she was in any way
trying to say that God would have to ask her permission as to how to get
around the universe (although it does concern me how easily you come to that
conclusion as though you already think along those lines).  I think that she
simply wanted to point out to you that God is capable of anything, and
anyone who believes that God just rides around in an alien spaceship is
illustrating how small God is in their understanding.  Usually this is an
attempt to bring God down to a size that allows that person to feel as
though they are equal to or could even be greater than God since, after all,
anybody could ride around the universe in an alien spaceship.

 As for your plans regarding the Arc of the Covenant, I think that Eagle 1
did a fair job explaining why most people (including myself) will not
believe that you have been sent on an archeological mission from God to
recover it.  However, I do wish you the best in your mission and hope that
you have not chosen a goal that is unattainable, and therefore since it
cannot be started, cannot fail.  Perhaps a member of the giant flock that
your website has attracted would be able to help.  There must be several
hundred of your students in that area who could assist you in achieving your
goal.

 My only hope is that on the day that you do achieve this goal and are able
to do your digging, if you do not find the Arc please take a moment and
think.  Before you begin to justify the failure and start looking for a
different place to dig take a moment and reflect upon the thought patterns
that brought you to that point.  Think very carefully about if that was
truly the voice 

Re: [CTRL] fw: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Nicky,

Thank you for your kind words to me and about my website. I am glad you like
it and will continue to visit it. Please tell all your contacts about it, so
that they might also have the opportunity of enjoying it. Thank you again.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] fw: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990


 Hi there,

 Thanks I have been at your site before.Well we are from the Kings of
 Ireland. Interesting site you have. Will have another good look at it
soon.
 I get British Israel stuff and think they are so right about a lot.

 Bye for now,
  Nicky



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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, 4 November 1999 11:06
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] fw: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990


 Dear Nicola,
 
 I noticed the corporate symbol.
 
 Please visit my site at
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ausnz.htm
 
 Peace be upon you,
 
 JAH.
 
 
 
  Subject: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990
  Mime-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: text/plain
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
  In case no one else noticed:
 
  EgyptAir has as it's corporate symbol, the Falcon of
  HORUS (occult symbol for "Illumined/Christed Man",
  i.e. AntiChrist): fl. 990 is of course rife with
  Masonic symbolism,
 
 
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[CTRL] 5 May 2000 - Nostradamus

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications



DearEarthman,

Thank you for posting this article about 
Nostradamus and 5/5/2000. The writer Laszlo asks if anyone can date quatrain 
10,67 from its description.

If you visit http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/nostb.htm 


and 

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/mostmeat.htm

you will find answers.

Then please pass them on.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


[CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Mike,

Thanks again, for your sanity.

Joshua doesn't seem to be able to read properly either, in his great zeal
and irrational hatred of the truth. If he calms down and reads what I wrote,
properly, he will see that I made no prediction about January. I only
offered the solution.


- Original Message -
From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
 
  
   Sorry Mike,
  
   This guy IS nuts.
 
  How do you know that?
 
  Besides, who's he harming?  YOU?
 
  Just leave him alone, dude...no biggie...not really

 He's not harming me at all.

   If you believe him, that's fine with me. It's your
   choice. But when he puts this stuff out in PUBLIC he opens his beliefs
   to scrutiny.
 
  Hey, scrutiny, common decency, intelectual discourse...hey, all
  that is one thing, but what you're doing is not only rude, but
  for SOME REASON you seem to be taking it all TOO personally??

 He is a fake and a liar. This is not about intellectual discourse.
 This is about yet another religious charlatan.

  I mean, it seems to me that your over zealous offensive towards
  this guy is kinda revealing as to your own problems,
  insecurities, fears (conscious or sub..), etc.

 That's fair. Between he and I, who would you say has more serious
problems?

  At least that's the way it seems to me, i.e., you're just a tad
  TOO zealous/defensivedoncha think?  I mean, doesn't that
  strike you [or any one else] as odd?  Same with Pennie...i.e.,
  just chill out...don't let it get to you so much??

 Sorry. Just can't do that. If he puts it on this list, it's in my face.

  AND, I never said I believed all that stuff...cuz I DON'T!

   I'm not saying that he's whacko lightly. He is mentally deranged and
you
   are not helping him any by supporting his delusions.
 
  Where did you say you got your M.D. or PhD in Human Med or
  psych...where'd ya do your residency again...I must have missed
  that info??

 You don't need to be a certified mechanic to know there's a problem
 when your car's engine is missing. This guy's engine is missing.

  And, there's a big difference between deranged and
  delusional...at least to me (i.e., without looking anything up).
  To me, one lends to being dangerous to self and/or others, the
  other does not necessary imply such, no?

 No. Not really.

  Again, man, imo, your seeming obsession with this guy is kinda
  text book affective disorder, if you really want to get down to
  it.

 Fair enough.

   What do you think will happen to this guy when January rolls around
and
   everything he predicted doesn't happen?
 
  In my opinion?
 
  NOTHING.

 But you don't know that.

  Nothing, except that I bet he (and any one that at least listened
  to him and gave his message at least the time of day) will be
  more prepaired for any nasty contigencies than you:)

 Are you talking about Y2k or apocalypse?

  Besides, I have a feeling that ALL OF US...we'll ALL be kinda
  preoccupied with food lines, energy failures, transportation
  problems, martial law, etc., for a few months (several weeks AT
  LEAST!).

 That is a possibility. Millennial delusions are not.

   Do you think it will help his
   condition? I doubt it.
 
  What condition?
 
   He is a sick puppy.
 
  Hey, WHO AIN'T?

 Lot's of people aint. The idea is to increase that number. Not invent a
 ridiculous immaginary universe for the young and borderline psyches to
 slide into.

  I'm crazy, you're crazy, he's crazy...SO WHAT?

 I'm not crazy. I work hard at not being crazy. ...SO WHAT? Do you think
 crazy people enjoy being crazy? It's one of the worst afflictions that can
 happen to a person. Why would you make light of it?

  I personally think there are more important things to worry about
  in these final days before the new millenniun, namely basic
  COMMON SENSE precautionary preparation for AT LEAST SEVERAL
  potential contingencies/possible Y2K glitches.

 Me too.

  Hey, if you really want to pick on "crazy" people, go after any
  of the THOUSANDS/MILLIONS at large that HAVE violently harmed
  others!

 I do that too.

  Become a bounty hunter or a super hero...be Bat Man, or
  how'bout "Net Man?"

 Cool. Do a get a costume with a cape?

  Or try a career in Criminal Justice.  Get a degree in a related
  field and maybe apply for a job with the FBI, DIA, or
  CIA...LOLor maybe the psychiatric field:)

 Definitely not interested in those fields. They are the problem along
 with psychotic religious " Prophets."

  Just do me a favor and pick on someone more deserving of your
  time and energies, i.e., THIS GUY MEANS WELL!

 No. He does not mean well. He means to elevate himself in a story of
 his own invention. This works when others are duped. To fool someone

Re: [CTRL] Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

 Dear Mike,

 Thanks again, for your sanity.

 Joshua doesn't seem to be able to read properly either, in his great zeal
 and irrational hatred of the truth. If he calms down and reads what I
wrote,
 properly, he will see that I made no prediction about January. I only
 offered the solution.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


 - Original Message -
 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


  -Caveat Lector-
 
  MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
  
-Caveat Lector-
  
   On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
  
   
Sorry Mike,
   
This guy IS nuts.
  
   How do you know that?
  
   Besides, who's he harming?  YOU?
  
   Just leave him alone, dude...no biggie...not really
 
  He's not harming me at all.
 
If you believe him, that's fine with me. It's your
choice. But when he puts this stuff out in PUBLIC he opens his
beliefs
to scrutiny.
  
   Hey, scrutiny, common decency, intelectual discourse...hey, all
   that is one thing, but what you're doing is not only rude, but
   for SOME REASON you seem to be taking it all TOO personally??
 
  He is a fake and a liar. This is not about intellectual discourse.
  This is about yet another religious charlatan.
 
   I mean, it seems to me that your over zealous offensive towards
   this guy is kinda revealing as to your own problems,
   insecurities, fears (conscious or sub..), etc.
 
  That's fair. Between he and I, who would you say has more serious
 problems?
 
   At least that's the way it seems to me, i.e., you're just a tad
   TOO zealous/defensivedoncha think?  I mean, doesn't that
   strike you [or any one else] as odd?  Same with Pennie...i.e.,
   just chill out...don't let it get to you so much??
 
  Sorry. Just can't do that. If he puts it on this list, it's in my face.
 
   AND, I never said I believed all that stuff...cuz I DON'T!
 
I'm not saying that he's whacko lightly. He is mentally deranged and
 you
are not helping him any by supporting his delusions.
  
   Where did you say you got your M.D. or PhD in Human Med or
   psych...where'd ya do your residency again...I must have missed
   that info??
 
  You don't need to be a certified mechanic to know there's a problem
  when your car's engine is missing. This guy's engine is missing.
 
   And, there's a big difference between deranged and
   delusional...at least to me (i.e., without looking anything up).
   To me, one lends to being dangerous to self and/or others, the
   other does not necessary imply such, no?
 
  No. Not really.
 
   Again, man, imo, your seeming obsession with this guy is kinda
   text book affective disorder, if you really want to get down to
   it.
 
  Fair enough.
 
What do you think will happen to this guy when January rolls around
 and
everything he predicted doesn't happen?
  
   In my opinion?
  
   NOTHING.
 
  But you don't know that.
 
   Nothing, except that I bet he (and any one that at least listened
   to him and gave his message at least the time of day) will be
   more prepaired for any nasty contigencies than you:)
 
  Are you talking about Y2k or apocalypse?
 
   Besides, I have a feeling that ALL OF US...we'll ALL be kinda
   preoccupied with food lines, energy failures, transportation
   problems, martial law, etc., for a few months (several weeks AT
   LEAST!).
 
  That is a possibility. Millennial delusions are not.
 
Do you think it will help his
condition? I doubt it.
  
   What condition?
  
He is a sick puppy.
  
   Hey, WHO AIN'T?
 
  Lot's of people aint. The idea is to increase that number. Not invent a
  ridiculous immaginary universe for the young and borderline psyches to
  slide into.
 
   I'm crazy, you're crazy, he's crazy...SO WHAT?
 
  I'm not crazy. I work hard at not being crazy. ...SO WHAT? Do you think
  crazy people enjoy being crazy? It's one of the worst afflictions that
can
  happen to a person. Why would you make light of it?
 
   I personally think there are more important things to worry about
   in these final days before the new millenniun, namely basic
   COMMON SENSE precautionary preparation for AT LEAST SEVERAL
   potential contingencies/possible Y2K glitches.
 
  Me too.
 
   Hey, if you really want to pick on "crazy" people, go after any
   of the THOUSANDS/MILLIONS at large that HAVE violently harmed
   others!
 
  I do that too.
 
   Become a bounty hunter or a super hero...be Bat Man, or
   how'bout "Net Man?"
 
  Cool. Do a get a costume with a cape?
 
   Or try a career in Criminal Justice.  Get a degree in a related
   field and maybe apply for a job with the FBI, DIA, or
   CIA...LOLor maybe the psychiatric field:)
 
  Definitely not interested in those fields. They are the problem along
  with psychotic religious " Prophets."
 
   Just do me a favor and pick on someone more deserving of your
   time and 

[CTRL] What Has the New World Order Done for Us Already?

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Ketan Michael Vakil wrote:-

 In fact, all the Islamic countries represent a threat to the
 New World  Order.   Recognizing the  danger of financial slavery,
 the prophet Muhammad prohibited the charging of interest on debt.
 This prohibition  is written  into the  Koran.  The Elders of the
 New World  Order have  decreed that  Israel, with the help of the
 United States,  must divide  and destroy  the  nations  of  Islam
 before they have enough time to recover from the Crusades.

It may interest people to know that God wrote exactly the same thing about
usury in The Bible Old Testament via anothe Prophet - Moses. The Bible that
all Jews and Christians are supposed to follow.

Deuteronomy - the Fifth Book of Moses:-
23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of
 money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon
 usury:
23:20 Unto a stranger (foreigner - a non-Israelite) thou mayest lend
 upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury:
 that the "I AM" thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine
 hand to in the land where thou goest to possess it.

Reconfirmed by Jesus:-

Gospel of Matthew:-
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the
 Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one
 jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all
 be fulfilled.

Christ's Revelation to John:-
15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31)
 the servant of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant),
 saying, Great and marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty;
 just and true [are] Thy Ways, Thou King of the holy people.


What went wrong? How do we put it right? We must recover The Ark and return
to keeping ONLY God's Laws, as God Himself has said.

Perhaps you might also like to look at and understand the con-trick called
democracy by accessing:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/democra.htm

There is no other way to stop the Illuminati, than by recovering The Ark.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



- Original Message -
From: Ketan Michael Vakil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] What Has the New World Order Done for Us Already?


 -Caveat Lector-

 You asked whatthe illuminati were..new world order.. one in the same
 perhaps...  info below

 -

 -Ketan Michael Vakil
 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://kmvplace.simplenet.com/new
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  Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 21:46:52 -0800
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [CTRL] What Has the New World Order Done for Us Already?
 
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  What Has the New World Order Done for Us Already?
  by Gregory Alexander
 
  Copyright March 1991
 
 
  As America  approaches the  next millennium,  we confront  a
  grave  threat   to  our  constitutionally  guaranteed  rights  to
  freedom, health,  and the  pursuit of  happiness.   A  New  World
  Order, managed  covertly by  the  Rothschild/Rockefeller  banking
  system, now  seeks to  bring the  U.S. economy  to its knees more
  thoroughly than it did in 1929.  The previous generation of world
  controllers crashed  the stock  market by design.  First, through
  the use  of front  companies, their agents synchronized the sales
  of large  blocks of  stock, back and forth, at successively lower
  prices.   This precipitated  a panic.   Investors large and small
  scrambled to  sell short  and cut their loses.  Then, the bankers
  called in  the debts.   These  debts were  created  by  extending
  credit to stock brokerages who, in turn, extended margin to their
  retail customers.  After the panic had started, selling proceeded
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[CTRL] Modern Fascism : Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview

1999-11-14 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Bill,

Please study:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/politics.htm

and then the rest of the site and please tell your contacts to do the same.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 7:47 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Modern Fascism : Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview


 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0570046033/XyzpublishingltdA
 /002-7286772-7408205

  Modern Fascism : Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview
  (Concordia Scholarship Today)
  by Gene Edward Veith
  Paperback - 187 pages (February 1993)
  Concordia Pub House; ISBN: 0570046033

  Synopsis:

  This new book in the Concordia Scholarship Today Series examines
  how fascist views permeate modern philosophy, art, movies, and
  eugenics -- decades after the defeat of the Axis powers in World
  War II. Dealing with a variety of fascist thought -- from the
  intellectuals to the skinheads -- Veith shows how the fascist's
  focus on self and human will is in direct opposition to the
  Christian's faith in a righteous God. (Concordia Publishing House)


  Customer Comments:


  [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Fairhope, Alabama , March 20, 1999

  The New Pagans - Veith exposes the real fascism today.

  Prof. Gene Edward Veith, a Lutheran professor of English at
  Concordia Univ. in Wisconsin, if anything else, has taken a word
  which has come to be used as a contentless, empty and generalized
  "catch-all" insult, and has attempted to remind a historically
  ignorant generation of what "fascism" was really all about in the
  1930's and 1940's and from whom, whence, and what sources this
  terrible political and philosophical system was derived, the form
  it took then, and the form it takes today.

  First of all, Veith has a smiling Ezra Pound on the cover giving
  the fascist salute in 1958. This picture is not meant to cleverly
  provoke, but to show, as is detailed in the chapter, "The Beautiful
  Ideas Which Kill", that in his allegiance to fascism, Pound and
  some of his artistic and intellectual allies, Imagist poet T.E.
  Hulme, George Bernard Shaw, and the pre-war Wyndham Lewis, found
  the political vehicle of fascism (to them at least) a very logical
  outgrowth of their theories and views of art and life. The
  celebration of "the primitive", the concrete over the abstract,
  and overall contempt for the "bourgeois, moderate, classical..."
  (quoting from Thomas Mann), in favor of the Nietzchean and
  Dionysean unrestraint represent not any kind of a current
  "conformity" to classical and historical traditions but at the
  time, the very "avant-garde" throwing off of all such shackle.

  There are many such illustrations of the sort, which Veith uses not
  for purpose of mere "high-brow" name-dropping or ad hominem
  indictment, but for the deeper meaning of the book itself: Fascism
  has always been on the cutting edge, and the people who first loved
  and propagandized it were not bourgeois businessmen in suits, but
  the writers, artists, poets, and philosophers. It is important to
  realize that one reason that the Jewish people were singled out for
  castigation was that they represented a transcendent intellectual
  order, anti-paganism and moralism. Although it has become a matter
  of cliche, Frederich Nietzche really did popularize many of these
  ideas in works such as "The Will to Power", where Judaism and
  Christianity were systems of weakness and artificial supports for
  weaknesses in their hindrance of man's primordial will and drive to
  power and action.

  "Modern Fascism" covers eugenics, abortion, political ideology, and
  religion in addition to the artistic and philosophical aspects of
  fascism, marking his obvious subject: the National Socialist state
  of Hitler's Germany. Veith offers disparate examples of how history
  has been revised and ignored to the absurd point that "fascism" is
  now considered somehow "conservative", and the opposite of the
  Left. Actually, the extreme Right and the extreme Left are two
  competing sides of the same fascistic coin (i.e. National Socialism
  (Nazism) and International Socialism (Marxism). Veith also debunks
  (as have numerous others) the pernacious myth that Nazism was
  somehow Christian. The truth is that Hitler perverted and used
  "God-words" for his own end, and eventually dropped them altogether
  once complete power was gained. The German Protestant Church had
  become so weakened by liberalism and humanistic thought, that it
  was powerless to resist. True Christians such as Dietrich
  Bonhoeffer were executed.

  Finally, one of the most interesting and frightening sections is
  the end where Veith links much of modern 1990's culture in America
  with the very same fascism it falsely purports to hate. The very
  modern return to paganism and Gnostic/New Age type religions (in a
  friendly 

Re: [CTRL] Something nice to say........

1999-11-13 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Tenorlove,

Thank you very much for your kind words about my site. I hope you will spend
many hours enjoying my work and in so doing make my effort worthwhile.

Peace be upon you, and thanks again,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Something nice to say


 -Caveat Lector-

 I went and looked at JAH's page to see what the fuss was about. I was
 overwhelmed; there's too much info to digest in one sitting; I've
 bookmarked it  put it on my list. I will say this: the graphics on the
 page are very lovely and the font is easy to read without strain.

 Tenorlove



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Re: [CTRL] Pat Robertson email--at least the domain part

1999-11-13 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Tenorlove,

Thanks for the Pat Robertson email lead. I will give it a try.

Bless you,

JAH.


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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Pat Robertson email--at least the domain part


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 I'm not sure how he's got his name formatted, but if you send email to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure it will get to someone who is closely
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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-13 Thread JAH Publications
are righteous enough to touch
 it. As for my boyfriend and I...well, you are an idiot!
 If you insist on posting your neurotic website in answer to all the
world's
 problems, don't get offended when we all don't bow down and kiss your a$$.
 Love, Pennie

 From: " JAH Publications" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: "Conspiracy Theory Research List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:17:25 -
 
 Dear Pennie,
 
 Hello, I hope you are well. The following is in answer to your unprovoked
 outburst against me.
 
 You don't think that Joshua2 was actually telling the truth and was being
 serious about his wife leaving him do you? The lies he told in that part
 were obviously intended as a joke, although how anyone can think that
 telling lies is funny, tells us a lot about them and speaks for itself.
 So why in those circumstances would you think it was a bad statement to
 make?
 If his wife had really left him, I would agree with you.
 It was his comments that followed the lies about his wife that were
 the most offensive.
 
 I actually feel sorry for Joshua2 because he seems incapable of doing
 anything other than insult me just because he chooses to disagree with
me.
 He has done it yet again in his most recent message.* Perhaps, if he has
 time, he will grow out of it.  I, on the other hand, have insulted
no-one.
 Joshua2 obviously does not agree with freedom-of-speech; except when he
is
 doing the speaking of course.
 
 * "Dear JAH Dude,
 
 It is quite obvious that you are insane. I suggest a long rest and don't
 forget your medicine.
 
 I'll be here after New Year 2000 to greet you when you come back to
planet
 Earth.
 
 Have a nice Millennium,
 
 Joshua2"
 
 Are you Joshua2's girlfriend? because you seem to think very much like
him.
 Perhaps, if you aren't, you should get in touch with him. You'll probably
 get
 on well together.
 
 How would you know whether I have translated the Scriptures correctly or
 not,
 or whether God would use a space-ship or not, or what Christ would or
 wouldn't do, or that I am, as you call me, a false Prophet or not? That
 same
 phrase has been used against every Prophet who has ever warned people of
 coming events and how to survive them, which is all that I am doing. If
you
 don't like the message then exercise your own free-will and reject and
 ignore it, like the people did with Noah. All I ask is some civility and
 that you don't insult the Messenger, perhaps naively, going on the past
 record on this planet.
 
 You obviously consider yourself to be an expert on these things. So where
 is
 your website so we can see it and make up our own minds, whether you know
 what you're talking about.
 Judge a tree by the fruit it bears.
 
 Joshua2's email address, just in case you are not his girlfriend, is:-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 My website is there for the whole world to see, so that they can look at
it
 and make up their own minds, for which they do not need your opinion. So
 why
 are you, like Joshua2, so forcefully giving it to everyone? They, like
the
 two people below and many others who love my site, are capable of making
up
 their own minds, without your help.
 
 For those who would like to make up their own minds, my website address
 is:-
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
 
 If only one person in 6,000,000,000 appreciates and is helped by my site,
 it will make all the time; effort and the few insults worthwhile. However
I
 have already had word from a lot more than one person who absolutely love
 it, so things ARE really worthwhile.
 
 
 Peace be upon you, and your boyfriend Joshua2
 
 JAH.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: pennie hammons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 6:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
 
 
   -Caveat Lector-
  
   "JAH" is a false prophet. Anyone who thinks God flies around in a UFO
 has
   belittled God. God created the universe and life. Does He really need
a
   space craft to carry Him around? The concept is ridiculous. jah likes
to
   hear himself talk, he has interpreted the scriptures accurately in
some
   places, but doesn't have a full understanding of Christ. A truly
loving
   being doesn't say "I can understand why your wife left you" when
 criticized.
  
  
   From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member
(fwd)
   Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:37:33 -0300
   
 -Caveat Lector-
   
   On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:14:29 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
   
P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your
message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e.,
TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT

Re: [CTRL] [apfn] In My Opinion

1999-11-13 Thread JAH Publications



Dear little Shonda,

No Shonda we must not sit and wait, we must use the 
tools and the plan God gave us and must recover The Ark and return to His Ways 
and ONLY His Ways.

To recover The Ark all freedom lovers must write to 
the Irish Minister for Heritage and persuade her to give me the permit to dig at 
Tara; as I have already outlined in my previous emails.

Please don't cry little Shonda; get determined and 
fight God's Way, exactly as He has laid down in His Holy 
Scriptures.

I am posting another copy of the plan for those who 
are new to the list or have deleted their original copy by mistake.

Don't cry, peace be upon you,

JAH.

Please repost to your own mailing listsand 
newsgroups and as far and wide as possible - ThanksFOR THE LAST SEVERAL 
YEARS AMERICA HAS BEEN HANGING BY A THREAD.. Whatdo we do 
next?by Randy MillerThe War of all wars (APFN).Dear 
All,I've already told you what we need to do in order to put everything 
right inone go. Nothing else will get the job done; according to 
God.We need, according to Holy Scripture, to recover The "Lost" Ark from 
itssecret hiding-place in the Hill of Tara, in County Meath, Ireland and 
forthat we need to persuade Sile (Sheila) de Valera, the Minister for 
Heritage,to give me a "permit to dig" at Tara and we need to do it before 
y2k, forobvious and already well discussed reasons.Those people who 
are REALLY serious about survival should help me to recoverThe Ark before 
it's too late. With that in mind please read the followingand act on it. Y2K 
is getting closer every day.Dear Friends, Citizens, Patriots, 
Veterans, et al:The more I read your various correspondences, the more I 
see how frightenedand desperate many of you are, including someone in the 
NWO above BillClinton, and from the many reports sent in, about various 
governmentactivities that are going on, the greater the need for good 
guidance on howto defeat the 300 Gang and even more importantly 
SURVIVE.With all the measures being taken by so many people; most of 
which, I'msorry to have to tell you, will probably not be of any use; it 
appears thatwhilstmany of you believe IN God, very few seem to BELIEVE 
God and His Word.He has told the world on the last page of the Old 
Covenant/Testament inMalachi 4 what every one of you MUST do, if you want to 
survive not only y2kbut also The Fire, which was re-confirmed by Christ in 
the Revelation toJohn, in Revelation/Apocalypse 14:3 and 
15:3.Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a "New Song" (Isaiah 
42:10) beforethe Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: 
and no man couldlearn that "Song" EXCEPT the hundred [and] forty [and] four 
thousand, whichwere redeemed from the Earth.15:3 And they sing the "Song 
of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servantof God, AND the "Song of the 
Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great andmarvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God 
Almighty; just and TRUE [are] Thy Ways,Thou King of the holy 
people.In both places, you have been told that you MUST get rid of 
PresidentialDecrees and all man-made laws and return to keeping ONLY God's 
Laws and TheCovenants - the Old and the New Covenants which are harmonised 
and referredto as the "New Song" by Christ in Revelation 14:3 and 15:3 above 
and by Godin Isaiah 42:10, as George Washington intended.Isaiah 
42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and]His praise 
from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and allthat is 
therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.42:11 Let the "wilderness" 
and the cities thereof lift up [their voice], thevillages [that] Darkness 
doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the Rock sing,let them shout from the 
top of the mountain.42:12 Let them give glory unto the "I AM", and declare 
His praise in theislands.42:13 The "I AM" shall go forth as a mighty 
man, He shall stir up jealousylike a man of WAR: He shall cry, yea, roar; He 
shall PREVAIL against Hisenemies.I have placed the "New Song" 
that every one of you who wants to survive andlive in God's Kingdom MUST 
learn and live by, according to Christ, on mywebsite:-http://www/geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/nsongad.htm 
please retrieve;download and use it, now.It seems you are all 
far more pre-occupied with the 300 Committee, than infollowing God's 
survival instructions. Those who KNOW God should not be theleast bit worried 
about anything or what anyone might, or might not, try todo to their 
body.Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an 
oven; andall the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and 
the daythat cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that 
itshall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).4:2 But unto you 
that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise withhealing in his 
wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of thestall (IN PERFECT 
SAFETY).4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes 
under thesoles of 

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-12 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your kind and most welcome words about my website at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

 If only one person in 6,000,000,000 appreciates and is helped by my site,
it will make all the time; effort and the few insults worthwhile. However I
have already had word from a lot more than one person who absolutely love
it, so things are really worthwhile.

Peace be upon you, my friend.

JAH.

P.S. Do you have an email address for Pat Robertson?


- Original Message -
From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:

  Dear Michael Spitzer,
 
  If want to know about Jesus and Close Encounters you should access:-
 
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm and
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/etvisit.htm and
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/closeenc.htm

 Thank you:)


 
  It's amazing what you can find on the net.
 

 MAN, it sure is!


  Peace be upon you,
 
  JAH.
 

 And you, my friend,

 Mike

 P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your
 message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e.,
 TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT
 ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way
 time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!!


 
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  From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:10 AM
  Subject: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
 
 
   -Caveat Lector-
  
   [Sounds like this "Angel Scroll" may be describing where
   Jesus/Yashua just might/could have had a "Close Encounter of the
   Nth Kind," huh?  --MS]
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [CTRL] [smashthestate] Global Gun Grab

1999-11-12 Thread JAH Publications

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Please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks)


Dear Lloyd,
I sent the following to email groups recently and thought you should have a
copy
in case you are not on those mailing lists:-

Dear Friends, Citizens, Patriots, Vets and all,
It should be of very great interest to you and your readers, who probably
are not aware of the very similar events that took place, in order to disarm
the law-abiding public in Britain, to know how it was successfully
accomplished.

Dr. John Coleman, in his book "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the
Committee of 300", has stated that in 1968 the Committee of 300, which he
says is run from England and headed by Elizabeth 2, established the "Club of
Rome" and planned its strategy for total world domination; the future
mass-reduction by 95% of the world's population and the need to disarm the
law-abiding public in order to be able to bring that about. It should also
be of interest to the God-fearing American people, who REALLY trust in Him,
(In God we trust) that God says that Rome is the new Babylon, that He
intends to make war against and destroy, as Christ explains in the Book of
Revelation, chapters 17; 18 and19 in The Holy Bible (the last book in The
Bible).

Accordingly, the British Parliament brought into law "The Firearms Act"
1968.
Note well, that it was in 1968 - the exact same year Coleman quotes, for the
establishment of the Committee of 300's "Club of Rome", in the country ruled
by the head of the Committee of 300 - Elizabeth 2.

The pretext used, as always, was to prevent armed crime. The Firearms Act
was only the first stage in their devious evil plot to totally disarm the
British public. They always do it in stages, because it's easier that way.
It generates less resistance when done a little at a time - Fabianism; the
preferred method of the 300 Club. Under the 1968 Act they disarmed the
law-abiding British public and allowed sporting shooters, who had to become
members of registered gun clubs, to apply for Firearms Certificates, on
which it specified the serial number; type and calibre of each weapon; the
amount of each calibre of ammunition that could be purchased and held at any
one time and limiting the number of weapons held by each individual, who had
to justify why he wanted each individual weapon. No fully-automatic weapons
could be held by the law-abiding public.

Once the "Firearms Act 1968" was firmly in place and the public could not
hold automatic weapons, succeeding governments gave increasing power to
police-authorities to tighten their criteria about who could be granted a
Firearms Certificate and they gradually tightened the criteria to disarm
more and more law-abiding citizens, using financial means.  Increasing the
necessary home-security measures needed, in order to get a certificate
granted or renewed, with more and more expensive security measures being
required, made it so that only the wealthy could afford these measures and
the poorer people were gradually deprived of their weapons, because they
could not afford the necessary home-security devices required by chief
police-officers.

Once this had been completed, the next phase of the operation came into
force after a "crazed" gunman called Michael Ryan ran amok with a
semi-automatic Kalashnikov AK47 and murdered 14 people in Hungerford,
England, because he knew that, as a direct result of the "Firearms Act",
no-one else had a gun with which to stop him. The next phase, resulting from
this multiple-shooting, was for the government to completely ban private
ownership of all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.

I wrote to British shooting magazines at that time and spoke to friends and
told them that if they didn't get together and act "as one" to fight any
further moves by the government to control firearms, they would all end up
with no guns. They all decided to "keep their heads down" and hope for the
best, without being willing to stand up and fight, peacefully, for their
rights. Today those people I warned, way back then, have no guns, and all
admit that I was right. Of course I was, but now it's too late.

Allowing a short, but long enough break, so as to not make it too obvious;
the next phase was put into operation, after another "crazed" gunman shot
some school-children at Dunblane in Scotland, because he also knew that, as
a direct result of the "Firearms Act", no-one else would have a gun with
which to stop him. The result of this was the total banning of the
law-abiding
sports-shooting gun-club members of the public from owning any handgun of
any type and calibre.

One has to ask oneself, whether these two people were "crazed" or
mind-controlled, as has been suggested about their American counterparts, to
"appear" crazed and commit these crimes, in order to enable the 300 Club
to be able to move to the next phase of their dastardly and devious, evil
plan of total world ownership and total domination.

If, as Coleman suggests, this is 

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-12 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Pennie,

Hello, I hope you are well. The following is in answer to your unprovoked
outburst against me.

You don't think that Joshua2 was actually telling the truth and was being
serious about his wife leaving him do you? The lies he told in that part
were obviously intended as a joke, although how anyone can think that
telling lies is funny, tells us a lot about them and speaks for itself.
So why in those circumstances would you think it was a bad statement to
make?
If his wife had really left him, I would agree with you.
It was his comments that followed the lies about his wife that were
the most offensive.

I actually feel sorry for Joshua2 because he seems incapable of doing
anything other than insult me just because he chooses to disagree with me.
He has done it yet again in his most recent message.* Perhaps, if he has
time, he will grow out of it.  I, on the other hand, have insulted no-one.
Joshua2 obviously does not agree with freedom-of-speech; except when he is
doing the speaking of course.

* "Dear JAH Dude,

It is quite obvious that you are insane. I suggest a long rest and don't
forget your medicine.

I'll be here after New Year 2000 to greet you when you come back to planet
Earth.

Have a nice Millennium,

Joshua2"

Are you Joshua2's girlfriend? because you seem to think very much like him.
Perhaps, if you aren't, you should get in touch with him. You'll probably
get
on well together.

How would you know whether I have translated the Scriptures correctly or
not,
or whether God would use a space-ship or not, or what Christ would or
wouldn't do, or that I am, as you call me, a false Prophet or not? That same
phrase has been used against every Prophet who has ever warned people of
coming events and how to survive them, which is all that I am doing. If you
don't like the message then exercise your own free-will and reject and
ignore it, like the people did with Noah. All I ask is some civility and
that you don't insult the Messenger, perhaps naively, going on the past
record on this planet.

You obviously consider yourself to be an expert on these things. So where is
your website so we can see it and make up our own minds, whether you know
what you're talking about.
Judge a tree by the fruit it bears.

Joshua2's email address, just in case you are not his girlfriend, is:-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My website is there for the whole world to see, so that they can look at it
and make up their own minds, for which they do not need your opinion. So why
are you, like Joshua2, so forcefully giving it to everyone? They, like the
two people below and many others who love my site, are capable of making up
their own minds, without your help.

For those who would like to make up their own minds, my website address is:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

If only one person in 6,000,000,000 appreciates and is helped by my site,
it will make all the time; effort and the few insults worthwhile. However I
have already had word from a lot more than one person who absolutely love
it, so things ARE really worthwhile.


Peace be upon you, and your boyfriend Joshua2

JAH.



- Original Message -
From: pennie hammons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 "JAH" is a false prophet. Anyone who thinks God flies around in a UFO has
 belittled God. God created the universe and life. Does He really need a
 space craft to carry Him around? The concept is ridiculous. jah likes to
 hear himself talk, he has interpreted the scriptures accurately in some
 places, but doesn't have a full understanding of Christ. A truly loving
 being doesn't say "I can understand why your wife left you" when
criticized.


 From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:37:33 -0300
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
 On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:14:29 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
 
  P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your
  message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e.,
  TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT
  ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way
  time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!!
 
 I agree, Mike! The site of our friend JAH is very interesting.





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Re: [CTRL] Mark: When Militias are Outlawed///

1999-11-11 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Edward,

I hope you're right. I have often thought that the British people would not
accept  things and rebel, but I have, over decades, been continually sadly
disappointed by the total lack of response.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:45 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Mark: When Militias are Outlawed///


 -Caveat Lector-

 Mark:

 "We've got to dismantle the NRA," urges filmmaker Spike Lee. "It's time
to
 rethink [the Second Amendment]..." says Mia Farrow. "I think [the Second
 Amendment] is in the Constitution so we can have muskets when the British
 people come over in 1800," opines talk-show host Rosie O'Donnell.

 When or if these individuals decide to embark on eliminating the second
 amendment, I am afraid that they will discover--the hard way--why the
 founders intended for the American people to keep and bear arms. Sure,
 given the massive nature and number of the current, and ENGINEERED,
 tragedies sweeping the nation, they might be successful in holding a
 constitutional convention and winning the approval of enough states to
 ratify an end to the second amendment, but in doing so, they will ensure
 the inevitability of civil war. No reasonable individual will ever give up
 the only means of defending him/herself against tyranny.

 Edward   +
 
 "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's
 revolutionary force. " Edward Britton   +
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Re: [CTRL] Terminator Seeds

1999-11-11 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Nicola,

If you think that is bad; please read the following:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm

and see what the real outcome will be.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


G.M. "Terminator" Seeds.


The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what
assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the
crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have
the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy
seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that
these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists
this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not
stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator"
plants.

The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this
insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to
"Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then
starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to
animals and humans.

That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the
G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt
it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain
through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and
the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact
that they can't eat money. JAH.


* Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet.

1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE
(knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED:

Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY
PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.




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- Original Message -
From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:51 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Terminator Seeds


 -Caveat Lector-

  Original Message 
 Subject: [TheEagle-L] (Fwd) Terminator Seeds
 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:56:00 -800
 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date:  Mon, 31 May 1999 18:19:07 -0700
 From:  David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   Terminator Seeds

 Post Number 133: GE Foods, II
 This information was sent to me just after I sent out the information on
 genetically engineered foods.  This is another aspect of what is being
 done to our food supply, and it is anything but an accident, and
 certainly is being done with evil intent.

 The ultimate control of people is through their food supply, or lack
 thereof.  Any questions you have about this should lead you to a study
 of what the Russian Communists did to the farmers who refused the
 collective (centralized control of food production, thereby permitting
 no dissent to the state) farms.  The Russian army went into the farms
 and stole all food, animals and seed stocks.  This led to the starving
 to death of millions of people.

 The same is being planned here.  Let me give you a glimpse into the
 future, as planned by the collectivist of Washington, DC, and London,
 England.  Total control of food production through control of all seed
 stocks and land (land by taxation).  Total control of all cities,
 through limited amounts of food.  Total control of all weapons, through
 food.

 When you look at any major city in the US today, pay careful attention
 to the "ring" roads which circle them.  These, as are all Interstate
 Highways, are military roads.  It would be ridiculously easy to
 establish military perimeters with small groups of soldiers controlling
 these rings.  This also means total control of all food going in, and
 not just shipments intended for the stores from the major supply
 centers.  Your local health food store, the farmer's market, your
 neighbor's son coming in for the weekend, all, of course, in the name of
 `saving gas' or equal distribution according to need.  But the result
 will be the same; no food unless it is distributed by the so-called
 authorities.  More on this in the Y2K Planning Post coming up.

 There is one point that I have no verification on, but which I "believe"
 to be true.  When you read of Pol Pot and what he did in Cambodia, the
 planning of emptying the cities and forcing the people into the country
 side was done by a think tank in Washington, DC.  The killing fields of
 

Re: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE

1999-11-11 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Nicola,

If you think that is bad; please read the following:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm

and see what the real outcome will be.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


G.M. "Terminator" Seeds.


The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what
assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the
crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have
the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy
seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that
these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists
this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not
stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator"
plants.

The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this
insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to
"Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then
starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to
animals and humans.

That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the
G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt
it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain
through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and
the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact
that they can't eat money. JAH.


* Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet.

1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE
(knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED:

Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY
PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.




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- Original Message -
From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:39 AM
Subject: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE


 -Caveat Lector-

  Original Message 
 Subject: [TheEagle-L] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
 FAMINE--ST
 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:57 -800
 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date:  Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:59:57 -0800
 To:(Recipient list suppressed)
 From:  "A.C."
 Subject:   THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
 FAMINE--STERILE
SEED DEVISED BY SATANIC MINDS--how we can counteract

 Let us contribute to SSE's legacy, by all of us who care about
 nourishment
 for ourselves, our families, our nation, and the world, to add our
 numbers
 to their gallant, "self pollinating," seed saving effort.  ac

 This from the Seed Savers Exchange (SSE):  Seed savers Exchange is a
 nonprofit, tax-exempt organization that is saving "heirloom"
 (handed-down)
 garden seeds from extinction.  SSE's 8,000 members grow and distribute
 heirloom varieties of vegetables, fruits, grains, flowers and herbs.
 SSE's
 main focus is on heirloom varieties that gardeners and farmers brought
 to
 North America when their families immigrated, and traditional varieties
 grown by Native Americans, Mennonites and Amish.  Since SSE was founded
 in
 1975, our members have distributed an estimated 750.000 samples of rare
 and
 endangered seeds not available through catalogs and often on the verge
 of
 extinction.  SSE has always been the leader of the heirloom seed
 movement,
 and the diligent efforts of our members are making rare heirloom
 varieties
 available to gardeners everywhere.

 SSE's phone number and address to receive their catalogue:
 (319)-382-5990

 SEED SAVERS EXCHANGE
 3076 North Winn Road
 Decorah, IA  52101
 -

 http://www.arkinstitute.com

 Visit The Ark Institute's web site @ http://www.arkinstitute.com for
 archived Food and Grain Supply Updates. To be placed on Geri Guidetti,s
 free Food Supply Update email list, send an email with "list" in the
 subject box to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Seed Terminator  Mega-Merger Threaten Food  Freedom
Food Supply Update - June 5, 1998
By Geri Guidetti www.arkinstitute.com
c. 1998 All Rights Reserved
 
There have been times in human history when the
line between genius
 and insanity was so fine that it was barely
 perceptible. In the world of biotechnology and food,
 that
 line has just been 

Re: [CTRL] Terminator - BIOTECH = HUNGER advert

1999-11-11 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Dave,

Thought you might like this that I sent to Nicola:-

Dear Nicola,

If you think that is bad; please read the following:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm

and see what the real outcome will be.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


G.M. "Terminator" Seeds.


The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what
assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the
crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have
the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy
seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that
these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists
this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not
stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator"
plants.

The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this
insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to
"Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then
starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to
animals and humans.

That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the
G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt
it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain
through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and
the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact
that they can't eat money. JAH.


* Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet.

1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE
(knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED:

Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY
PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.




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- Original Message -
From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:39 AM
Subject: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE


 -Caveat Lector-

  Original Message 
 Subject: [TheEagle-L] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
 FAMINE--ST
 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:57 -800
 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date:  Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:59:57 -0800
 To:(Recipient list suppressed)
 From:  "A.C."
 Subject:   THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
 FAMINE--STERILE
SEED DEVISED BY SATANIC MINDS--how we can counteract

 Let us contribute to SSE's legacy, by all of us who care about
 nourishment
 for ourselves, our families, our nation, and the world, to add our
 numbers
 to their gallant, "self pollinating," seed saving effort.  ac

 This from the Seed Savers Exchange (SSE):  Seed savers Exchange is a
 nonprofit, tax-exempt organization that is saving "heirloom"
 (handed-down)
 garden seeds from extinction.  SSE's 8,000 members grow and distribute
 heirloom varieties of vegetables, fruits, grains, flowers and herbs.
 SSE's
 main focus is on heirloom varieties that gardeners and farmers brought
 to
 North America when their families immigrated, and traditional varieties
 grown by Native Americans, Mennonites and Amish.  Since SSE was founded
 in
 1975, our members have distributed an estimated 750.000 samples of rare
 and
 endangered seeds not available through catalogs and often on the verge
 of
 extinction.  SSE has always been the leader of the heirloom seed
 movement,
 and the diligent efforts of our members are making rare heirloom
 varieties
 available to gardeners everywhere.

 SSE's phone number and address to receive their catalogue:
 (319)-382-5990

 SEED SAVERS EXCHANGE
 3076 North Winn Road
 Decorah, IA  52101
 -

 http://www.arkinstitute.com

 Visit The Ark Institute's web site @ http://www.arkinstitute.com for
 archived Food and Grain Supply Updates. To be placed on Geri Guidetti,s
 free Food Supply Update email list, send an email with "list" in the
 subject box to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Seed Terminator  Mega-Merger Threaten Food  Freedom
Food Supply Update - June 5, 1998
By Geri Guidetti www.arkinstitute.com
c. 1998 All Rights Reserved
 
There have been times in human history when the
line between genius
 and insanity was so fine that it was barely
 perceptible. In the world of 

Re: [CTRL] [3] Trust No One...

1999-11-10 Thread JAH Publications
e the fighters,

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Further proof that The Ark is at Tara can be found on my website at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/



- Original Message -
From: Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] [3] "Trust No One..."


 -Caveat Lector-

 JAH Publications wrote:
 
  his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark

 Dano writes,

 I would like to know more about how you are going to recover
 "The Ark" and where "The Ark" is or where YOU think it may be.

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Re: [CTRL] Professor Israel Shahak

1999-11-10 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Rodrigo,

Thank you very much for the article by Israel Shahak, it is very
interesting. Please access:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/rabbis.htm where you will see
God's opinion of rabbis and their religion, from the Old Testament
Scriptures, that they falsely claim to follow.

Peace be upon you, my friend.

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:58 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Professor Israel Shahak's bookreview


 -Caveat Lector-

 Professor Israel Shahak about Jewish "Religion"

 Bookreview:

 When the Roman historian Tacitus pointed out 19 centuries ago that the
Jews
 are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred and
 contempt for all peoples but their own, he was only repeating what many
other
 scholars had discovered before him. For the next 1,900 years other
 investigators came to similar conclusions, either from a study of the
Jews'
 religious writings or from a study of the Jews' behavior toward non-Jews.

 Notable among these was the reformer, Martin Luther, who in 1543 wrote in
 "Von den Juden und Ihren Lugen":

  "Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is
no
  sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a
  brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a
  heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob, as they do with their usury,
from
  a heathen is a divine service. For they hold that they cannot be too
  hard on us nor sin against us, because they are of the noble blood
and
  circumcised saints; we, however, are cursed goyim. And they are the
  masters of the world, and we are their servants, yea, their cattle...

  "Should someone think that I am saying too much, I am not saying too
  much, but much too little. For I see in their writings how they curse
us
  goyim and wish us all evil in their schools and their prayers."

 The Jews responded to Luther like they responded to all the others. They
put
 him down as just another "hater," blinded by religious bigotry. And today
 that's still the Jews' standard answer to everyone who says or writes
 anything about them except the most fawning praise.


 Israel Shahak is a rare Jew indeed, and his book is essential reading for
 anyone interested in the problem of the Jews.




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Re: [CTRL] Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.

1999-11-10 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

 Dear Om,
 
  Does this email I have received from Nurev sound as though it fits your
  criteria for membership "Let us please be civil as always, Caveat
Lector?"
 
  If not could you please take some polite action on it?
 
  Peace be upon you,
 
  JAH.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 12:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links
 
 
   -Caveat Lector-
  
   JAH Publications wrote:
   
 -Caveat Lector-
   
Dear Joshua2,
   
Please visit my website at:-
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
   
and study it. Then you will find out how I know.
   
I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a
sensible
  and
respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you
  said
about me last week.
   
Peace be upon you,
   
JAH.
  
   Dear JAH,
  
   I looked at what I wrote below and don't see what I need to apologize
 for.
   BUT, I just glanced through your web site, and discovered that I do
need
  to
   apologize to the other list members if I failed to call you a lunatic
 and
  by
   failing to do so, adding to your credibility in some way.
  
   Please forgive me CTRL for my dereliction of duty. My dog died. My
wife
  left
   me and took my best Nintendo game with her. My kids threatened to take
 me
  off
   oxygen, and I lost the keys to my car. But I'm a trooper dammit.
  
   So here goes...
  
   JAH, there is NOTHING that I saw at your site that even resembles
 reality.
   I will say though, that it appears to be an ambitious undertaking by
 it's
   size. I suspect that you were paid by the word like Dickens was. It's
  clear
   that no one would pay for the content.
  
   I'll pass on the respectful dialogue stuff. I'm not interested in
 debating
   with you. But you should realize that when you post such drivel in a
  public
   forum, someone will challenge you on it.
  
   Peace,
  
   Joshua2
  
 
 



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[CTRL] The Democracy Lie

1999-11-10 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

  Dear Friends,
 
  Please learn to understand that democracy is a lie.
 
  Please visit and circulate:-
 
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/democra.htm
 
  Peace be upon you,
 
  JAH.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: APFN ONELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lady Liberty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:06 AM
  Subject: [mediaalliance] [Fwd: FW: Good definitions! (fwd)]
 
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: PSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:52 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Good definitions! (fwd)
  
  
   This was posted onto the API mailing list.
  
   I didn't write it, but wish I had
  
   Harry Schneider
  
  
  DEFINITIONS
  
   1. A Democracy: Three wolves and a
  sheep voting on dinner.
  
   2. A Republic: The flock gets to
  vote for which wolves vote on
  dinner.
  
   3. A Constitutional Republic:
  Voting on dinner is expressly
  forbidden, and the sheep are
  armed.
  
   4. Federal Government: The means by
  which the sheep will be fooled
  into voting for a Democracy.
  
   5. Freedom: Two very hungry wolves
   looking for dinner and finding a very
   well-informed and well-armed sheep



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Re: [CTRL] confirmation that EQUALITY of sexes is PROHIBITED and Shonda's questions answered.

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications




  
That is all well and good, 
Bard...

Q. However, does that mean a woman has to put up 
with an unfaithful husband? Does she have to put up with abuse? 
Isn't the man supposed to "love her as himself"? And if there is abuse 
of the children, wouldn't that be grounds to terminate the father's rights? 
(provoke not your sons to anger) 

A. The answer to both of these questions is no 
Shonda. Firstly, the punishment for adultery in The Bible is exactly the 
same as Gene told us about in Saudi Arabia - death by stoning. It is because 
this has been done away with that people now casually commit adultery and 
cause the breakup of marriages and ruin their own lives and the lives of 
their children. Jesus said go and sin no more. Not everybody go out and 
commit adultery, as has happened because everyone misquotes what Jesus is 
supposed to have had. In reality the adulterous woman story was not in the 
original Bible and was added centuries later by powerful people (like the 
Illuminati) who wanted to be able to get away with committing adultery and 
corrupt everyone's morals. They have obviously 
succeeded.

Secondly, in the case of the abuse of children, 
you have not specified what kind of abuse. Discipline carried out with love 
is not abuse. If however there is no love in it then it is evil. The kind I 
think you are really referring to (please correct me if I'm wrong) is sexual 
abuse and the penalty for that is death by stoning, so that the deterrent 
factor works and people don't do it. Prevention is always better than cure. 
That is why America has a nuclear arsenal dterrent; so you won't have to use 
it. It's the same logic.

Q. Does a woman have to be submissive to a man 
when she is having "female problems"? isn't there a law in the Bible 
that says a man is not to touch a woman during that time, so who should she 
obey...God, or the man? 

A. Yes, The Bible does say that a man must not 
come at his wife during her "female problems", however, in the times that we 
are living in now (the times of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah revisited) with 
the constant barrage of female nudity in the press and on television, in the 
shopping mall, etc. that men are constantly bombarded with because these 
women who display themselves are not punished for breaking God's Laws, men 
are constantly being aroused and unfairly provoked. In that case it is 
made more difficult for the men not to want to come at their wives and once 
aroused if that arousal is not satisfied it can either make the male feel 
aggressive orcan cause him discomfort or pain. It is therefore 
his wife's duty and in her own best interest if she wants him to remain 
faithful and neither feel aggrssive nor be in pain, to lovingly care for his 
needs in whatever way is mutually pleasing and acceptable to both. There is 
more than one way to skin a cat (or make a tiger purr). Brigitte 
Bardot is reported as having said that, if a wife does not satisfy her 
husband every day, he will go to another. 

Q. Where does a woman cross the line between being 
submissive to her husband and doing God's will?

A. She must be submissive and does not have to 
cross the line if  both stay on the same side of it.

Q. I believe that womens liberation has hurt women 
more than helped, personally. However, the questions above are still a 
mystery to me.

A. I am pleased to hear you say this little 
Shonda, as both Gene and I have said previously, before I had time to answer 
your questions more fully for you and all the other members of our 
group.

I hope that the questions you asked are now no 
longer a mystery to you and that I have succeeded in lovingly helping you 
towards a better relationship with God and your husband. If so then 
perhaps you will help others by passing this message to everyone, especially 
the people Bard was trying to reach on both sides of the divide and thereby 
heal their wounds and bring peace and love back into relationships and the 
world and remove the divide.


Q.--Shonda

Peace be upon you,

A. --JAH.



  -Original Message-From: 
  Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  ChristianPatriot [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  Mediaalliance@Egroups. Com [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  Roundtable [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  Snetnews [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  theseries [EMAIL PROTECTED]; JAH 
  Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:23 PMSubject: [mediaalliance] 
  confirmation that EQUALITY of sexes is 
  PROHIBITEDGod's word is good enough for me!To 
  all femmes whose goal is to wear the pants in the Family,I highly 
  rec

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Michael Spitzer,

If want to know about Jesus and Close Encounters you should access:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm and
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/etvisit.htm and
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/closeenc.htm

It's amazing what you can find on the net.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:10 AM
Subject: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 [Sounds like this "Angel Scroll" may be describing where
 Jesus/Yashua just might/could have had a "Close Encounter of the
 Nth Kind," huh?  --MS]





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Re: [CTRL] Anarchy

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications

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 I LOVE this !!

 Dave Hartley

 News about and of interest to anarchists
   


It may be of interest to you, and indeed ought to be of interest to everyone
to know that it is not the people who are against the government/s that are
the anarchists, but it is in reality all the governments and political
parties themselves that are the anarchists, because the governments refuse
to obey God and His Commands that no-one is to legislate or form political
parties.

4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the Statutes and unto
 the Judgments, which I teach you, for to DO [them], that ye may
 LIVE, and go in and possess the land which the "I AM" God of your
 fathers giveth you.
4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither
 shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the
 Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you.
5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would
 respect Me, and keep ALL My Commandments ALWAYS, that it
 might be well with them, and with their children for ever!
5:30 Go say to them, Get you into your tents again.
5:31 But as for thee, stand thou here by Me, and I will speak
 unto thee all the Commandments, and the Statutes, and the
 Judgments, which thou shalt teach them, that they may do [them]
 in the land which I give them to possess it.
5:32 Ye shall observe to do therefore as the "I AM" your God hath
 commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand (politics) or to
 the left (politics).

For further information please visit:-


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/politics.htm


Therefore the governments and political parties are the REAL anarchists, not
the people who keep only God's Laws and reject man-made laws. But of course
the governments with their media-machine have to brainwash everyone into
believing the opposite of the Truth so that the sheeple will obey them
instead of God.

The Sanhedrin (government) crucified Jesus because, to them, He was an
anarchist, when in REALITY they were and still are the anarchists and Jesus
was the King.

Food for thought?

Peace be upon you,

JAH.




 ATo mark the 10th anniversary of the breaching of the Berlin Wall, the
 Surveillance Camera Players (SCP) will perform in front of the
surveillance
 camera that guards a small portion of the Wall, displayed as a piece of
 sculpture in the tiny "urban park" at 520 Madison Avenue, Manhattan (the
 park is actually on 53rd Street between Madison and Fifth Avenues).
 At noon, Wednesday 10 November 1999, the SCP will perform two plays: first
 You Are Being Watched For Your Own Safety, which was recently performed
for
 the first time (and in Peekskill, NY); and second, a brand-new adaptation
 of Wilhelm Reich's The Mass Psychology of Fascism.
 Formed in NYC in November 1996, the SCP are unconditionally opposed to the
 use of surveillance cameras. Like all cameras, the video or closed-circuit
 television camera is a tool of social control, a tool that is used to
 condition people into privileging images of life over life itself. But,
 unlike the apparently neutral photographer's camera, the video or
 closed-circuit television camera is explicitly a tool that helps
 established authority to direct, supervise and control the behavior of
 large numbers of people. Surveillance cameras violate our constitutionally
 protected rights to privacy, anonymity and free assembly.
 Composed of anarchists, the SCP fight against both the use of surveillance
 cameras and the general fetishism of images. The group performs in places
 in which the presence of surveillance cameras are particularly offensive.
 The plays performed are written and adapted so that their meaning and
 relevance are clear to all, not just to the cognoscenti. The SCP, despite
 their hostility to the society of the capitalist spectacle, allow
 themselves to be photographed, interviewed and written about by the media;
 they also maintain a website at
 http://www.panix.com/~notbored/the-scp.html. The group intends to explode
 the myth that only those who are doing something wrong fear surveillance
 cameras (i.e., that the only ones opposed to surveillance cameras are
 people with something to hide).
 Contact:
 Art Toad, Director
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Re: [CTRL] not lunatic

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Rodrigo,

Thank you for your kind words, my friend. I'm glad you enjoyed the page.
Please tell your friends about it. The is a whole website to enjoy as well,
not just one page.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/


Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:14 AM
Subject: not "lunatic"


 Hello my friend JAH,

 I see the msg on CTRL mailing list  will go see it because I
 think which the guy than said you is "lunatic" is strenght biased.
 Then I accessed the  searched for "protocol"  ... SURPRISE!
 It been there!!! Oh, nice... Your page is ok, my friend!

 Greetings,
 Rodrigo Cesar Banhara



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Re: [CTRL] The Games of Empires

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Lloyd and all,

The Invasion of Kuwait and the Gulf War, which did not end in 1991 because
the parties did not make peace only agreed a ceasefire is technically and
actually on-going, was in fact prophesied in detail 2000 years ago. The
propheciy and its explanation can be found at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athena/Atrium/2012/theiofk.htm

Hope you enjoy it and the Four Horsemen and the rest of the site.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Subject: [CTRL] The Games of Empires


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 ..

 Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
 From: JRKing Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]
 Subject: The Games of Empires
 Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:22 PM


 The Games of Empires
 By Michael R. Allen
 web posted October 4, 1999


 If you loved the Gulf War, thought Operation Desert Fox stopped
 too early, and The Siege contained no stereotyping, you know what
 needs to be done. Recently, Iraqis who may or may not have been
 soldiers killed two Kuwaiti soldiers near the border of the two
 states. This is a great excuse to escalate American-British
 military attacks against Iraq.

 The rest of the world -- those who do not trust their governments
 with the use of stealth bombers and fancy missiles -- know what
 we might be in for: another long war, fought under the guise of
 supposed Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction" but probably about
 oil. Soon, the US will have to employ its own weapons of mass
 destruction to make a clear statement: it's not what a country
 has, it's which country has it. Iraq is not playing the imperial
 game on America's terms, and must be punished.

 Just as in the original Gulf War, Kuwait is accusing Iraq of
 violating its sovereignty. The killed soldiers are being referred
 to as "the two martyrs," so one can already predict a replay of
 1990. Iraq is pure evil, Kuwait is a great nation in need of
 protection, and Hussein's total obeisance is the goal. It might
 be easier to just kill old Saddam, but his defeat would be more
 exciting to the Western foreign policy elite.

 But why let the Iraqi people suffer in the meantime? Because
 their suffering is political leverage for the bombers. Hussein is
 purported to be responsible for their condition, not trade
 embargoes. Therefore, war is to be the humanitarian solution.
 Fortunately, France, Russia, China, and other national
 governments do not buy the US-UK argument.

 The US and its lapdog Britain (or is it vice versa?) are the last
 two 'civilized' countries to be fighting a war that technically
 ended nearly seven years ago. Since December 19th alone, the two
 have flown 12,583 sorties over Iraq's sovereign air space -- in
 the name of patrolling the 'no-fly' zone. Again, the arbitrary
 nature of the conflict is striking, but not surprising.

 Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has some sensible beliefs: He
 believes that his nation's borders shouldn't be invaded, nor
 should his people be bombed by daily runs of military jets.
 Hussein's government also has suggested that if -- out of the
 entire United Nations Security Council -- only the two countries
 bombing Iraq want an embargo in place, that the embargo should be
 dropped.

 The foreign policy establishments in the US and in Britain find
 these positions so illogical and one-sided that they have accused
 Hussein of not playing fair. Hussein has responded that it's hard
 to play fair when the only rule of engagement is that whatever
 his government does is wrong. Here, Saddam Hussein is right on
 the mark.

 While Hussein may not be the most freedom-loving leader in the
 world, and accepted US aid in the early 1980's, his military is
 small and has never attacked the US or Britain. His regime may
 exploit its condition continually, but it's clear the embargo
 alone is responsible for the horrible conditions of Iraq. Before
 1990, oil exporting accounted for nearly all of the Gross
 National Product and over two-thirds of all food was imported.
 With this balance upset forcibly, the internal conditions in Iraq
 have become unbearable.

 Hussein is correct to defend Iraq from relentless persecution. If
 the US-British alliance advances its attacks to formal war again,
 it will be impossible not to hope for his successful
 fortification of his country. The American effort to destroy Iraq
 cannot be supported by anyone who wants liberty and peace, for it
 rests on unsavory motivations.

 The destruction of Iraq is sought for economic reasons. The
 Western foreign policy elite is intertwined with business
 interests, and American oil companies do not need the honest
 competition posed by the Iraqi crude. In a world in which America
 has secure borders, the military has to be used offensively or
 else contract in size. Defense contractors, bankers, and others
 

Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really ...

1999-11-09 Thread JAH Publications

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Amen to that,

JAH.


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Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts What is the Government Really
...


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 Talmud? I dont like. The Talmud have many things bad.
 
 According to the Talmud, a Jubilee Year--which occurs in a
 multiple of 7  (7X7=Jubilee) indicates a year in which all debts are
 forgiven and all property reverts to its original owner(s).

 Okay, let's cut out the middleman.  The Jubilee is a practice mentioned in
 the Bible.



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Re: [CTRL] [3] Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland

1999-11-08 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Kris Millegan (and all),

I have found your three part article very interesting and credible. In it
you have raised the prospect near the end of part 3 that these evil people
are in a panic. Which of course they are. I quote the relevant passage:-

"Their complete disregard for whom may be watching and tracking their
bizarre ritual killings is either a sign of the security of arrogance, or
the desperation of panic.
It is this second possibility which has us the most concerned. If this was
indeed a ritual sacrifice, there is really only one reason to perform such
an act. Upon recognizing the signs that a great change or cataclysm is
coming, one may try to 'steal the magic' that is in the air for your own
personal protection. By sacrificing some of your own to the angry god,
Set/Encke in this case, you can appease him and perhaps have yourself spared
from what ever is coming down."

The simple reason for that panic is that their boss Lucifer (aka Satan) is
terrified that his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark and set up his
NWO is about to fail. Satan knows that, once I recover The Ark, his
deception is finished and consequently his control of the Conspirators and
the (his) Conspiracy (the NWO) will be defeated.

Whilst what you have said, about the manufactured sacrificial "Killing" of
Egypt-Air flight 990 using ELF weapons, is obviously true and that it might
be, to many of them, a sacrifice to their non-existent gods, in order to try
to save their own worthless evil lives, I suggest that you should consider,
not how and the numerology involved, but - as Man X, played by Donald
Sutherland, in the film JFK said, Whilst everyone is concerned with how.
No-one is asking the obvious question - Why?

If; as they definitely are; in a panic, then they would have to send a
coded-message to all their people around the world; without having the
message overheard, or intercepted and understood by anyone outside their
cabal as happened in 1784, before the French Revolution; that it is time to
move on to the next phase of their plan.

Others as well as you have been speculating that Mossad are going to be
blamed for the crash, leading to an Arab backlash against Israel, which of
course is also possibly the beginning of the next phase. We shall see.

I will repeat myself and explain that you are all so busy watching the play
unfold that you are missing your opportunity to stop it, by helping me to
recover The Ark.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.




- Original Message -
From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:55 PM
Subject: [CTRL] [3] "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland"


 -Caveat Lector-

 from:
 http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm
 Click Here: A
HREF="http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm"Enterprise
  Mission - Will 'X' Mark the Date?: P./A
 -
 The Enterprise Mission
 "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland"
 Part 3 of ?
 "This was no boating accident!"
 - Richard Dreyfus, "Jaws" - 1975

 
 CONTACT INFORMATION:
 MICHAEL BARA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Note - I am not able to respond to all e-mails, but I will read them --
MB)

 RICHARD C. HOAGLAND  - The Enterprise Mission
 P. O. Box 1130
 Placitas NM 87043
 FAX - (505) 771-0820

 © 1999 THE ENTERPRISE MISSION

 

 Egypt Air logo of Horus the Falcon god.
 The crash of Egypt Air flight 990 out of New York in the early morning
hours
 of October 31st, 1999 has sparked a huge amount of interest and
speculation
 in both the general media and in relation to our "November 7th" scenario.
 While the early trend of the news is to point at the thrust reversers as
the
 most likely culprit, we have uncovered a wealth of information that has
led
 us to conclude that not only is the situation more complex than the media
is
 willing to acknowledge, it is also far more ominous for our own
 circumstantial case vis-à-vis the 7th. In fact, the story is so flush with
 symbolic linkages and data anomalies that it may never be satisfactorily
 explained. Much like the case of TWA 800, Egypt Air 990 appears destined
 never to rest fully in peace. Like that storied ghost ship out of New York
 from three summers ago, there are just too many conflicts between what is
the
 clear direction of the "official" investigation and the facts.

 Let one of us [Mike Bara] start by relating my own expertise in this
field,
 such as it is. I was employed by Boeing as a structural designer for more
 than 14 years, and worked on every major commercial (and some military)
 vehicle that the company produced, including the 767. I also spent some
time
 on the 767 engine program in the Power Plant and Strut group. In addition,
my
 father worked at Boeing for more than 43 years, much of it spent in crash
 investigation and more than 20 years in material fire safety. On many
 occasions, he 

Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Rodrigo,

Conjugal rights are what a married couple have.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/


- Original Message -
From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan


 -Caveat Lector-

 Hey! Interesting!! But please, explain to me a little thing...

 What do you mean about "sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger"?

 This verb... conjugating.. I dont know what is it... yet dont...

  Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers,
immersed in
  Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of
  "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and
THE
  pioneer of the "alien" look on stage.

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Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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They are the old and the new Babylons - Revelation 17:5

Read http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/robab.htm

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?


 -Caveat Lector-

 It need be backuped by the Bible. Very much research too!

 I dont have formed opinion, yet. The Great Beast may be or may not be he!

 On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:15:06 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast?

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Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Lloyd,

Please read http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/robab.htm

Rome is the New Babylon in Revelation 17:5 and the Old Babylon was in Iraq.
Two sides of the same coin.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Tarik Aziz recently said on the news that the Vatican started in Iraq -
Babylon.
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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:15 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?


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 ..

 Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
 From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?
 Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:32 PM

 I cannot help but recall that the Pope and his
 America Bishops preached incessantly against
 the Gulf War...no Blood for Oil.  Pope tips hand
 on his proposed Catholic-Islamic Alliance vs.
 "Modernism" coming New World Order?
 Lloyd Miller

 From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: [CTRL] Pope and Saddam, Together in Babylon


 -Caveat Lector-

 Uh ... What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast?


 Iraq Agrees To Receive Vatican Team

 By AHMAD SAMI
 .c The Associated Press

 BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Baghdad has agreed to a visit by Vatican officials
this
 month to prepare for the proposed pilgrimage to Iraq by Pope John Paul II,
 the country's most senior Christian clergyman said Monday.

 Rafael Bedaweed, the head of nearly 750,000 Iraqi Christians, said he
 expected the pope to make his trip around Jan. 20.

 It is the most definitive date reported yet for the visit, which has been
 mired in uncertainty since last month, when the state media published a
 scathing attack on the pope by several Iraqi scholars who said the pontiff
 should not expect Muslims to cheer him. The government has yet to issue a
 formal invitation.

 The United States, Britain and Iraqi opposition figures have expressed
fears
 that President Saddam Hussein's government will use the visit to boost its
 international standing after years of isolation.

 Bedaweed, who met Vatican officials last month, said the pope was
determined
 to go ahead with the trip to Ur, the ancient Sumerian city believed to be
the
 birthplace of the biblical patriarch Abraham, revered by Christians,
Muslims
 and Jews.

 The visit is part of a proposed tour of pilgrimage sites in the Middle
East,
 linked to the celebrations in 2000 when the church marks the start of
 Christianity's third millennium.

 A Vatican official who organizes the pope's foreign trips is expected to
 arrive in Baghdad by mid-November, leading a delegation of other Vatican
 officials, Bedaweed said. The visit has been approved by the government,
he
 added.

 Government officials were not immediately available for comment.

 Earlier Monday, Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramdan downplayed the
 significance of a visit by the pope. ``We welcome anyone who wants to
visit
 our country,'' he said when asked whether the government was keen to have
the
 pope in Iraq.

 But Bedaweed, the Chaldean Catholic patriarch, said official talks about
the
 visit were going on between Iraq-based Nuncio Monsignor Giuseppe Lazarotto
 and Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf.

 Asked whether John Paul will meet Saddam, Bedaweed said: ``There are
 diplomatic relations between Iraq and the Vatican. So the pope is coming
as
 head of state. It's necessary that the pope visit our president.''

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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You said it.

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Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really Saying?

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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Well they would avoid it wouldn't they.

Please read:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm

and you'll see why.

I challenged the pope personally to do exactly that a few years ago. Read it
for yourself and find out the Truth.

Peace be upon you,

JAH


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts What is the Government Really
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 On 7 Nov 99, at 9:07, earthman wrote:

  The Vatican, which has declared 2000 a Jubilee year, has scrupulously
  avoided linking the anniversary with millenarian aspirations, though
  security will be a constant concern during the year-long programme of
  events expected to draw millions of pilgrims to Rome.

 According to the Talmud, a Jubilee Year--which occurs in a
 multiple of 7  (7X7=Jubilee) indicates a year in which all debts are
 forgiven and all property reverts to its original owner(s).

 Does the Vatican really propose to cancel all debts and to return
 all that property it owns around the world to its original owners?
 Unless this is the Vatican's intention, the expression "Jubilee" year
 is virtually without meaning.

 I think we tend to associate Jubilee with a great celebration--which
 is not its actual meaning within religious tradition. (Although when
 this was really in practice, and people's debts were forgiven and
 they got their property back, I'm sure there was major revelling.)


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Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel

1999-11-06 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Pennie,

In a word. No.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel


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 Don't you think you are blaspheming the Name of God by calling yourself
 "JAH"?


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 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:01:16 -
 
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 Dear Nessie,
 
 Please study http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm where
it
 is all explained in detail.
 
 Peace be upon you,
 
 JAH.
 
 P.S. Hello Victoria.
 
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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel
 
 
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   It would seem that the rabbis agree with Christ in this case.
  
   So what exactly is  Jesus supposed to have said about Christmas trees?
 And
   where did he say it?
  
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Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel

1999-11-03 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Ynr,

For Christ's own personal opinion of Xmas please access:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread JAH Publications

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That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming.

JAH.

--Original Message -

 Satan is fiction.

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Re: [CTRL] fw: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990

1999-11-03 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Nicola,

I noticed the corporate symbol.

Please visit my site at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ausnz.htm

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



 Subject: [TheEagle-L] Re: Illuminati/EgyptAir 990
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 In case no one else noticed:

 EgyptAir has as it's corporate symbol, the Falcon of
 HORUS (occult symbol for "Illumined/Christed Man",
 i.e. AntiChrist): fl. 990 is of course rife with
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Re: [CTRL] UFO Report

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Fred,

I haven't reported what I've seen, so cannot answer your specific question
but thought you might like to visit the UFO section of my website at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ufos.htm

for information about them.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



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Subject: [CTRL] UFO Report To Law Enforcement/How Were You Treated


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Re: [CTRL] Further PROOF of the CONSPIRACY

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications




Please repost to your own mailing 
lists and newsgroups and as far and wide as possible - 
Thanks
Dear Kris,

Here is further proof from God via 
Ezekiel that the Conspiracy is a FACT and not 
a theory, and it has been an on-going CONSPIRACY 
for at least 2,500 years; according to God's Own personal Testimony in 
The Bible; as a result of which Jerusalemand Solomon's Temple were both 
destroyed and The "Lost" Ark of The Covenant was removed from Judah, by Jeremiah 
and taken to a safe place and hidden. God did this to allow the 
CONSPIRACY to run its course, so that ALL 
those who took part in the CONSPIRACY, either actively 
or passively by not keeping The Covenant and fighting against it and thereby 
ALLOWING it to happen, would demonstrate their continued 
treason against Him and The Ark would be kept safe until it was needed again, at 
the right time, to destroy the Conspiracy, NOW:-



Ezekiel 22:17 And the Word of the "I AM" 
came unto me, saying,
22:18 Son of man, the "House of Israel" (the Ten "lost" Tribes - 
Britain and USA) is to Me become dross: all they [are] brass, and tin, and iron, 
and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are [even] the dross of 
silver.
22:19 Therefore thus saith the Lord "I AM"; Because ye are all 
become dross, behold, therefore I will gather you into the midst of 
Jerusalem.
22:20 [As] they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, 
and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt [it]; 
so will I gather [you] in Mine anger and in My fury, and I will leave [you 
there], and melt you (Malachi 4**).
22:21 Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of 
My wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst thereof.
22:22 As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall 
ye be melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the "I AM" have 
poured out My fury upon you.
22:23 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, 
saying,
22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou [art] the land that is not 
cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.
22:25 [There is] a CONSPIRACY of her prophets in the 
midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; 
they have taken the treasure and precious 
things; they have made her many widows in the midst 
thereof.
22:26 Her priests have violated My Law, and have profaned Mine 
Holy things: they have put no difference between the Holy and profane, neither 
have they showed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid 
their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves 
ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest 
gain.
22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered [mortar] 
(the UNO and NATO - see ch.13*), seeing vanity, and divining lies 
unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord "I AM", when the "I AM" hath not 
spoken.
22:29 The people of the land have used 
oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed 
the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the 
stranger wrongfully.
22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the 
hedge (defences), and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not 
destroy it: but I found none.
22:31 Therefore have I poured out Mine indignation upon them; I 
have consumed them with the fire of My wrath: their own way have I recompensed 
upon their heads, saith the Lord "I AM". 
23:1 The Word of the "I AM" came again unto me, 
saying,
23:2 Son of man, there were two women (Israel and Judah), the 
daughters of one mother (Israel - 12 Tribes):
23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed 
whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they 
bruised the teats of their virginity.
23:4 And the names of them [were] Israel the elder, and Judah 
her sister: and they were Mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus [were] 
their names; Samaria (Israel - 10 Tribes) [is] Aholah, and Jerusalem (Judah - 2 
Tribes) Aholibah.
* Ezekiel 13:-
13:1 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, saying,
13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets (politicians) of 
Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own 
hearts, Hear ye the Word of the "I AM";
13:3 Thus saith the Lord "I AM"; Woe unto the foolish prophets, 
that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts 
("Desert Fox").
13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the 
hedge (defences) for the "House of Israel" (Britain and USA) to stand in the 
battle (of Armageddon) in The Day of the "I AM".
13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The "I 
AM" saith: and the "I AM" hath not sent them: and they have made [others] to 
hope that their words would be confirmed.
13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a 
lying divination, whereas ye say, The "I AM" saith [it]; albeit I 

[CTRL] New Freeland - Zeebulund

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Alamaine,

Please check out "The System" on my website at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

and also the New Freeland flag on the heraldry section and the other stuff
to help you win the war.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Alamaine Ratliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 5:22 AM
Subject: [CTRL] New Freeland


 -Caveat Lector-

 From http://www.freeradical.co.nz/content/38/38editorial.html


 {{Begin}}
 Read the full Constitution here.
 http://www.freeradical.co.nz/content/constitution/index.html
 Proposed by members of the Auckland Libertarianz executive.
 Preamble by Lindsay Perigo
 Part A: The Bill of Rights
 Part B: The Bill of Due Process
 Notes on the above Bills
 Part C: Separation of Powers

 When in the course of human affairs it becomes necessary for citizens to
break
 the political chains that have hitherto bound them, and to reclaim the
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[CTRL] Darth Vader

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Andrew,

If you would like to find out who Darth Vader really is and what he is up
to, please access:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm

I hope you will pass the message on.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Theosophical Society]


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 hi,

 There are 2 parts to the Theosophical Society one is public and one is
secret.

 The public organisation has three objects which I completely agree with.

 1. To form a nucleus of Universal Brotherhood regardless of race, colour,
 caste, creed or sex.
 2. To promote the study of comparitive philosophy, religion and science.
 3. to investigate the unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in
man.

 That's a great vision - and many wonderful people that I personally know,
 endorse it and use those objects to the betterment of themselves and
society.
 However, the Esoteric School is a secret hierarchical organisation
claiming
 to be the mentors and instructors and movers behind the public [exoteric]
 organisation.
 Although they obviously have access to ancient teachings which would have
 made Nicola Tesla happy - [I have seen a degree which was never destroyed
 as intended] - they clearly are dependent upon the will of non-human
beings
 from another planet who stay in an underground base under Tibet.

 The remit of the public organisation is Freedom of Thought - and the group
 to which I belong at this time is strongly and vigorously defending a
 hostile takeover from some secret cabal that have long envied our freedom
 and ability.
 What I think is wonderful is that many fine people think that what we have
 is worthwhile enough to fight for - and we will go all the way to fight
for
 our Freedoms here - and if Darth Vader comes round - then he gets the boot
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[CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theorists

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Tsadowq,

Then why don't we get on with defeating of the conspiracy, by positive
action instead of a lot of talk?

I have outlined the only way it can be done, and here is a copy:-


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Dear Kris,

Here is further proof from God via Ezekiel that the Conspiracy is a FACT and
not a theory, and it has been an on-going CONSPIRACY for at least 2,500
years; according to God's Own personal Testimony in The Bible; as a result
of which Jerusalem and Solomon's Temple were both destroyed and The "Lost"
Ark of The Covenant was removed from Judah, by Jeremiah and taken to a safe
place and hidden. God did this to allow the CONSPIRACY to run its course, so
that ALL those who took part in the CONSPIRACY, either actively or passively
by not keeping The Covenant and fighting against it and thereby ALLOWING it
to happen, would demonstrate their continued treason against Him and The Ark
would be kept safe until it was needed again, at the right time, to destroy
the Conspiracy, NOW:-


Ezekiel 22:17 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, saying,

22:18 Son of man, the "House of Israel" (the Ten "lost" Tribes - Britain and
USA) is to Me become dross: all they [are] brass, and tin, and iron, and
lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are [even] the dross of silver.

22:19 Therefore thus saith the Lord "I AM"; Because ye are all become dross,
behold, therefore I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.

22:20 [As] they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into
the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt [it]; so will I
gather [you] in Mine anger and in My fury, and I will leave [you there], and
melt you (Malachi 4**).

22:21 Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of My wrath, and
ye shall be melted in the midst thereof.

22:22 As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be melted
in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the "I AM" have poured out My
fury upon you.

22:23 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, saying,

22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou [art] the land that is not cleansed,
nor rained upon in the day of indignation.

22:25 [There is] a CONSPIRACY of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a
roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken
the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the
midst thereof.

22:26 Her priests have violated My Law, and have profaned Mine Holy things:
they have put no difference between the Holy and profane, neither have they
showed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their
eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey,
to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.

22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered [mortar] (the UNO
and NATO - see ch.13*), seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying,
Thus saith the Lord "I AM", when the "I AM" hath not spoken.

22:29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery,
and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger
wrongfully.

22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge
(defences), and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not
destroy it: but I found none.

22:31 Therefore have I poured out Mine indignation upon them; I have
consumed them with the fire of My wrath: their own way have I recompensed
upon their heads, saith the Lord "I AM".

23:1 The Word of the "I AM" came again unto me, saying,

23:2 Son of man, there were two women (Israel and Judah), the daughters of
one mother (Israel - 12 Tribes):

23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in
their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the
teats of their virginity.

23:4 And the names of them [were] Israel the elder, and Judah her sister:
and they were Mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus [were] their
names; Samaria (Israel - 10 Tribes) [is] Aholah, and Jerusalem (Judah - 2
Tribes) Aholibah.

 * Ezekiel 13:-

13:1 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, saying,

13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets (politicians) of Israel that
prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear
ye the Word of the "I AM";

13:3 Thus saith the Lord "I AM"; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow
their own spirit, and have seen nothing!

13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts ("Desert
Fox").

13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge (defences)
for the "House of Israel" (Britain and USA) to stand in the battle (of
Armageddon) in The Day of the "I AM".

13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The "I AM" saith:
and the "I AM" hath not sent them: and they have made [others] to hope 

[CTRL] The Conspiracy

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications




Please repost to your own mailing lists 
and newsgroups - Thanks
The following is a DELUXE version of 
Myron Fagan's "The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations" that 
EVERYONE ought to read.

I have placed links to other documents 
in it, that back-up what he says in this article, including quotes from 
Scripture and Prophecy and some explanatory notes.

It can be found on my website, where all 
the links will work at :- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/illumin.htm

Ihave now finished working on a 
DELUXE version of "The Conspirators' Hierarchy: the Story of The Committee of 
300" by Dr. John Coleman; to which I have added Scriptural passages in support 
of what he says, along with some explanatory notes and 
updates;cross-references tying Coleman's book and the Illuminati book by 
Myron Fagan together.

NowI have finished the work I have 
placed it on my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/300.htm 
for you all to study along with this work.

Please study this article and the rest 
of my website well. Y2k is approaching rapidly.

Peace be upon you,

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THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNSEL ONFOREIGN 
RELATIONS


By MYRON C. FAGAN


(A Transcript) The Illuminati and CFR







  
  

  
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER


  "WHO'S WHO IN THE THEATER" has always been the Bible of the People in the 
  Legitimate Theater. It never played Favorites, it told no lies, it Glorified 
  nobody. It always was an unbiased HISTORY of the men and women in the Theater. 
  It recorded only those who proved their worth in the one endash; AND ONLY 
  ONE - testing place of the Theater. BROADWAY: That "WHO'S WHO" records the 
  plays Myron C. Fagan wrote, directed and produced ... Dramas, Comedies, 
  Melodramas, Mysteries, Allegories, Farces - many of them the most resounding 
  "HITS" of their years. He arrived on Broadway in 1907, 19 years old, the 
  youngest playwright in the history of the American Theater. In the following 
  years he wrote and directed plays for many of the GREATS of those days ... 
  Mrs. Leslie Carter, Wilton Lackaye, Fritz Leiber, Alla Nazimova, Jack 
  Barrymore, Douglas Fairbanks, Sr., E.H. Southern, Julia Marlowe, Helen Morgan, 
  etc, etc. He directed Charles M. Frohman, Belasco, Henry W. Savage, Lee 
  Shubert, Abe Erlanger, George M. Cohan, etc, etc.. In the 5 years between 1925 
  and 1930 he wrote, personally directed, and produced twelve plays: "THE WHITE 
  ROSE," "THUMBS DOWN," "TWO STRANGERS FROM NOWHERE," "MISMATES," "THE 
  FASCINATING DEVIL," "THE LITTLE SPITFIRE," "JIMMY'S WOMEN," "THE GREAT POWER," 
  "INDISCRETION," "NANCY'S PRIVATE AFFAIR," "SMART WOMAN," and "PETER FLIES 
  HIGH."
  During his early years; Mr. Fagan was also "Dramatic Editor" for "The 
  Associated Newspapers," including the "New York Globe" and various Hearst 
  newspapers. But in 1916 he took a "SABBATICAL" from the Theater and served as 
  "Director of Public Relations" for Charles Evens Hughes; the Republican 
  Candidate for the Presidency - he refused a similar post offered him for the 
  Hoover campaign in 1928; thus, Mr. Fagan's career encompassed the Theater, 
  Journalism and National Politics, and he is a proven expert in all those 
  fields.
  In 1930; Mr. Fagan came to Hollywood where he served as "Writer Director" 
  with "Pathe Pictures, Inc.," then owned by Joseph P. Kennedy, father of the 
  late President Jack Kennedy, and also at 20th Century Fox, and other Hollywood 
  Film Studios. But he also continued in the Broadway Legitimate field.
  In 1945, at the urgent request of John T. Flynn, the famous author of "THE 
  ROOSEVELT MYTH," "WHILE WE SLEPT," "THE TRUE STORY OF PEARL HARBOR," etc.; Mr. 
  Fagan attended a meeting in Washington D.C. where he was shown a set of 
  micro-films and recordings of the SECRET meetings at Yalta attended only by 
  Franklin Roosevelt, Alger Hess, Harry Hopkins, Stalin, Molotov, and Vishinsky 
  when they hatched the plot to deliver the Balkans, Eastern Europe and Berlin 
  to Stalin. As a result of that meeting; Mr. Fagan wrote two plays: "RED 
  RAINBOW" (in which he revealed that entire plot) and "THIEVES PARADISE" (in 
  which he revealed how those men plotted to create the "UNITED NATIONS" to be 
  the "housing" for a so-called Communist One-World 

Re: [CTRL] Yoda - October 29 (God at Eventide)

1999-11-02 Thread JAH Publications




Little Difficulties October 29 (like 
overthrowing the 300)
The secret of true discipline is service in little 
things. So rarely do Mine understand this.
They are ready to die for Me, but not to live for 
Me, in all the small details of this life.
Is not this the way of men, so often, towards 
those they love in the world? They are so ready to make the big sacrifices, but 
not the little ones.
Guard against this in service for Me. Suffer 
little hardships gladly, overcome little proud impulses, little selfishnesses, 
and little difficulties. Serve Me in the little things. Be My servants of the 
little ways.
You seek Yoda at:-
Http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/yodas.htm


Peace be upon you,

JAH.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  F A Napoli 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 12:29 
  PM
  Subject: Yoda - October 29 
  (eventide)
  
  Dear Master,
  
  Might it help stir some into action if You sent 
  USCMike1 and the others the October 29 eventide (Little 
  Difficulties)?
  
  Love,
  
  Grasshopper  
  Danny.


Re: [CTRL] Boom for whom? Democracy?

1999-11-01 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Lucio,

If you really want people to wake-up to the deception and con-trick that is
called democracy and be easily able to understand it and fight the injustice
of it, please get them to access:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/democra.htm

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Lucio Benedetto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 5:16 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Boom for whom?


 -Caveat Lector-

 The Numbers
 Letters at 3AM
 BY MICHAEL VENTURA
 http://www.auschron.com/issues/dispatch/1999-10-29/cols_ventura.html

 October 29, 1999: If you pay attention, the numbers make you sick. The
 numbers are about a ruling elite (they are not populous enough to be
called
 a "class") that doesn't care whether or not we know the numbers because
they
 are convinced both of their power and our helplessness -- or rather, our
 consent, every day, to be helpless. The numbers are about an America that
 isn't America anymore, a democracy that isn't a democracy anymore. The
 numbers are about a lie called "the boom." The numbers don't need much
 commentary; the numbers speak for themselves.

 The United States has the industrial world's largest gap between rich and
 ordinary citizens. Note: This isn't the largest gap between "rich and
poor"
 (though we have that too), but the largest gap between "rich and
ordinary."
 "The richest 1% of Americans enjoy about 13% of U.S. household income
under
 official definitions, which excludes capital gains -- But if capital gains
 are included, as they should be, those at the top have 20-25% more income.
 Marie Antoinette and the French nobility (also a wealthy 1%) had a
 comparable share in 1789" (Los Angeles Times, August 1).

 American technicians make 9% less now than in the late Seventies. American
 unskilled workers make 25% less. Simple laborers make 30% less. CEOs make
 480% more (Boston Globe, October 16). These facts describe an even more
 drastic situation when you realize that 80% of American workers are still
 unskilled (The New York Times, July 5). So --

 The wealthiest 2.7 million Americans, the top 1%, have as much to spend as
 the poorest 100 million. (Read that twice.) That ratio has more than
doubled
 since 1977. In our "boom," four out of five households are taking home a
 thinner slice of the economic pie today than in 1977. Their share of
 national income has fallen just under 50%, from 56% in 1977. More than 90%
 of the increase in national income is going to the richest 1% of
households.
 Yet, according to the Budget Office, even this figure is low because it
 "excludes deferred forms of income like restricted stock," etc. Meanwhile,
 the average after-tax household income of the poor has fallen 12% since
1977
 (NY Times, Sept. 5). Yet --

 Americans lead the world in hours worked! We put in the longest hours
among
 workers in industrialized countries. So, not surprisingly, America gained
an
 astounding 22% in productivity between 1980 and 1986, for instance (NY
 Times, Sept. 7).
 In other words -- most Americans work harder, and American productivity
has
 gone way way up, yet these harder-working Americans are getting a much
 smaller slice of the pie while the wealthiest 1% are taking in better than
 90% of the profit. In fact --

 "The typical married-couple family with children puts in 256 more hours of
 work -- six additional full-time weeks! -- than it did in 1989" (NY Times,
 September 6). And those typical people are making less an hour, when
figures
 are adjusted for inflation: "The men in that group are actually doing a
bit
 worse than 10 years ago -- inflation-adjusted hourly wages of middle-wage
 men [have been] 1.8% lower in 1999 than in 1989" (same article). So -- if
 you're an average working married couple you are working, in hours, six
 weeks longer than you used to, for less money. That added productivity and
 profit isn't going to you; it's going to the richest 1%. The benefits of
 your work and the hours of your life are being stolen, and you're putting
up
 with it.

 And what is the median household income anyway?

 According to the IRS, two-thirds of our "boom-time" Americans earned less
 than $40,000 in 1997. Said Robert Greenstein, executive director of the
 Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: "Many Americans who make $80,000 a
 year, $100,000 or $120,000, think of themselves as middle class, but the
 fact is that while these people are not rich, they are also not in or even
 near the middle, which is only about $32,000 in after-tax income." (NY
 Times, Oct. 16). Meanwhile --

 Businesses across the spectrum are cutting the number of full-time workers
 who are entitled to benefits, to such an extent that "just one third of
all
 workers in California now conform to the stereotypical notion of
employment:
 working outside the home at a single, full-time job year-round as a
daytime
 employee" (LA Times, Sept. 6). When you consider that California accounts
 

[CTRL] Conspiracy - fact - not theory; according to God.

1999-10-31 Thread JAH Publications



Please repost to your own 
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Thanks
Dear Kris,

It is a FACT and not a 
theory, that there has been an on-going CONSPIRACY 
for at least 2,500 years; according to God's Own personal Testimony in 
The Bible; as a result of which Jerusalemand Solomon's Temple were both 
destroyed and The "Lost" Ark of The Covenant was removed from Judah, by Jeremiah 
and taken to a safe place and hidden. God did this to allow the 
CONSPIRACY to run its course, so that ALL 
those who took part in the CONSPIRACY, either actively 
or passively by not keeping The Covenant and fighting against it and thereby 
ALLOWING it to happen, would demonstrate their continued 
treason against Him and The Ark would be kept safe until it was needed again, at 
the right time, to destroy the Conspiracy, NOW:-


Jeremiah around 590 B.C. 
11:1 The Word that came to Jeremiah from the "I AM", 
saying,
11:2 Hear ye the words of The 
Covenant, and speak unto the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of 
Jerusalem;
11:3 And say thou unto them, Thus saith the "I AM" 
God of Israel; Cursed [be] the man that obeyeth not the words of this 
Covenant,
11:4 Which I commanded your fathers in the day [that] 
I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, from the iron furnace, saying, 
Obey My voice, and do them, according to all which I command you: so shall ye be 
My people, and I will be your God:
11:5 That I may perform the Oath which I have sworn 
unto your fathers, to give them a land flowing with milk and honey, as [it is] 
this day. Then answered I, and said, So be it, O "I AM".
11:6 Then the "I AM" said unto me, Proclaim all these 
words in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, saying, 
Hear ye the words of The Covenant, and DO them.
11:7 For I earnestly protested unto your fathers in 
the day [that] I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, [even] unto this day, 
rising early and protesting, saying, Obey My voice.
11:8 Yet they obeyed not, nor inclined their ear, but 
walked every one in the imagination of their evil heart: therefore I will bring 
upon them all the words of this Covenant, which I commanded [them] to do; but 
they did [them] not.
11:9 And the "I AM" said unto me, A 
CONSPIRACY is found among the men of Judah (Jew-dah), and among 
the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
11:10 They are turned back to the inequities of their 
forefathers, which refused to hear My words; and they went after other gods to 
serve them: the House of Israel and the House of Judah have broken My 
Covenant which I made with their fathers.
11:11 Therefore thus saith the "I AM", Behold, I will 
bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they 
shall cry unto Me, I will not hearken unto them.
11:12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants 
of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they 
shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble.
11:13 For [according to] the number of thy cities 
were thy gods, O Judah; and [according to] the number of the streets of 
Jerusalem have ye set up altars to [that] shameful thing, [even] altars to burn 
incense unto Baal.
11:14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, 
neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear 
[them] in the time that they cry unto Me for their 
trouble.
11:15 What hath My beloved to do in Mine House, 
[seeing] she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from 
thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest.
11:16 The "I AM" called thy name, A green olive tree, 
fair, [and] of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult He hath kindled 
fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
11:17 For the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that planted 
thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the House of Israel 
(Ten "Lost" Tribes - Britain and U.S.A.) and of the House of Judah (The Two 
Tribes that are Jewish), which they have done against themselves to provoke Me 
to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
11:18 And the "I AM" hath given me knowledge [of it], 
and I know [it]: then thou showedst me their doings.
11:19 But I [was] like a lamb [or] an ox [that] is 
brought to the slaughter; and I knew not that they had devised devices against 
me, [saying], Let us destroy the tree with the fruit thereof, and let us cut him 
off from the land of the living, that his name may be no more 
remembered.

Dear All,The following is what we need to do 
in order to put everything right in one go. Nothing else will get the job done; 
according to God.We need, according to Holy Scripture, to recover The 
"Lost" Ark from itssecret hiding-place in the Hill of Tara, in County Meath, 
Ireland and forthat we need to persuade Sile (Sheila) de Valera, the 
Minister for Heritage,to give me a "permit to dig" at Tara and we need to do 
it before Y2K, forobvious and already well discussed 
reasons.Those people who are REALLY serious about 
survival and 

Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-01-17 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear CTRL list members,

There is absolutely no chance that the Israeli government could have The Ark
because it was removed to Ireland by Jeremiah as part of the punishment of
the Jewish people for not keeping The Covenant. If they have found anything
it is a copy and not the original. So the fight goes on.

For evidence of Jeremiah having died in Ireland visit:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/jere.htm

The Conspirators' or David Rupp's story, or wherever it came from is just a
smoke-screen put out to try to put you off getting involved to help me
recover it, because the Conspirators are afraid of its power to defeat them.

Please take no notice of the smoke-screen and write to Sile de Valera to
help persuade her to give me the permit to dig. In my experience there is no
such thing as luck.

Please take note that David Rupp's web-server is STARPOWER.NET the same as
Joshua2, who has also tried to discredit this story.

Why? What do they have to gain from trying to discredit me? Are they part of
the Conspiracy? What harm could it possibly do to 2 metres by 2 metres of
flat grass, in an open field, by letting me dig for the world's greatest
treasure? It makes no sense for them not to give me permission, unless they
don't want me to find it.

Think about it. Would you stop someone digging such a tiny area of grass, in
a field, if there was even a wildly remote chance of finding The Ark, unless
you didn't WANT it to be found?

Please get writing  and faxing now. Y2K is getting closer.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: David Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:53 PM
Subject: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


 -Caveat Lector-

 Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
 http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
 It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
Israeli government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can
find a new crusade. Good luck!

 David Rupp




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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-01-16 Thread JAH Publications
 anyone know of a real anti-conspiracy list? If so please 
tell me how to contact it.

A wise saying is:- "It is better to keep your mouth 
closed and be thought a fool; than to open it and remove all 
doubt."

Love to you all and Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Your words are in brown. Is there a 
subconscious message in your choice of colour for your own words? Did 
God guide your choice for you?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eagle 1 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:58 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll 
  names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
  
  
  Due to the length of your letter and the required 
  answers... I will respond to you with a different color 
  in between what you wrote in the below written letter... with what I 
  feel is something to respond to.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 9:27 AM
  Subject: Re: OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect 
  member (fwd)
  
   Dear Eagle 1,  Hello. I hope you 
  are well and am very glad that you have found the dialogue amazing 
  because I wouldn't like people to find it boring. 
  
  Amazing in 
  the fact that you are so egotistical in your responses to people in the CTRL 
  group and other mail that you have thrown up in front of everyone everywhere 
  you go, and that you try to come off as some rocket scientist of 
  religion. 
  
  I am also glad that you have quoted Ezekiel 
  34 because it is one of my favourite pieces and I have, in fact, 
  explained it in great detail on my website. 
  
  OH, I've been to your website... 
  and I've also noticed all the "my's" and "I's" you use there and in your 
  correspondence. A bit narcisistic in presentation!
  
  Perhaps you might like to take a look at it. 
  Its URL address is:-  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/rabbis.htm 
   From what you have said about the so-called christian priests 
  
  
  See, there ya go... taking what 
  I've said out of context. I said the 'SHEPHERDS'. How you got 
  Priests out of Shepherds? I have no clue. Also the chapter 
  referenced, that you seem to be so fond of, uses the terminology 
  repeatedly "shepherd". There is a difference between Shepherds and 
  Priests, throughout the Bible. Here in this passage and other 
  places or didn't you know?
  
  giving Christianity a black eye, whom I also 
  mention in the above explanation and about whom you and I are in total 
  agreement, you should love the explanation. Please feel free to show 
  it to your friends.
  
  Again, what an ego 
  maniac you are. No wonder people give you such a hard 
  time.  Of course you are allowed to 
  believe as you wish; everyone has their free-will. It is one of The 
  Laws of this planet.
  
  Live as you will by the 
  "Laws of this planet". I will choose to live by the Laws of God. 
What Revelation 11:9 states, and you have 
  misquoted, is that 
  
  ARGUE as you will, it was NOT 
  misquoted... you have misinterpreted Revelation, 
  obviously... and I'm sure you believe in the rapture too? 
  
  Oh well, to each their own. 
  
  
  The Ark of The Covenant will be (in the 
  future) seen in the City called NEW Jerusalem that John saw COMING 
  DOWN out of heaven (a UFO?)and of course it will be, when it comes 
  down in the near future. After I have retrieved it from Tara, in 
  fulfillment of Malachi 4.
  
  LOL Go 
  ahead... make my day! LOL! no not just LOL, but 
  ROTFL!
   
   http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm 
   As you have correctly stated: God is not stupid; for which I can 
  personally vouch. 
  
  Yes, exactly what I said. I am 
  not speaking for God, as *you* seem to be... I was simply reiterating 
  that He follows His own rules to the "T". He has NEVER left artifacts 
  for man to brood over and discover, except for those that are so 
  large,so huge, that man can only wonder about them, they cannot be 
  possessed by any one hu-man at any given time in this earth age. 
  
  
  But then you go on to say that He would not be so 
  stupid as to leave The Ark on Earth. So, by so doing, you are actually 
  telling God that you think He is stupid for doing so. And you think 
  I'm trying to place myself above God? 
  
  YES I do think you are attempting to put 
  yourself above God. 
  
  What then are you doing when you call Him 
  stupid?
  
  THAT is YOUR misinterpretation, again, 
  of what I said, and what I meant. I never said He was 
  stupid. YOU did. YOU misinterpret many things... 
  Perhaps you should get your 
  communication skills a bit more together before you go out and attempt to save 
  the world. You've got to know how to 'listen' as well as to 'speak'. 
The Ark HAS TO BE on 
  Earth 
  
  WHO says it HAS to be on the earth? 
  WHERE do you get 

[CTRL] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.

1999-01-04 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Franklin,

Thank you for your letter. I am glad you have clarified what you wrote. It
seems that it was only a matter of the use of language and that we both
agree with each other, at least about everything we have discussed so far.
Humans are acting illegally rather than being illegal, i.e. that they should
not exist, as could be inferred from your statement. Never mind, at least
now everyone knows what we both meant.

As you are quite rightly so concerned about the state of affairs in Canada
in particular and presumably in the rest of the world too, perhaps you would
be willing to save yourself a lot of time and effort and achieve what you
want to achieve by a straighter and therefore shorter route. "The shortest
distance between two points is a straight line."

That shortest route is the recovery of The Ark of The Covenant from the Hill
of Tara (Torah), as I have outlined below, by writing to the Irish Minister
for Heritage to persuade her to give me a "permit to dig" a tiny area of
grass, just 2 metres by 2 metres at Tara.

Only by showing The Ark to the world and showing them the Stone Tablets can
you prove to the Canadian people; whose overwhelming support you will need
in order to achieve your goal; that The Bible is not a story book that
someone made up and that it, and The Law of God is True. Then they might
listen. ALL of them.

Please therefore start a campaign and enlist the help of everyone you can,
to help persuade Sile (Sheila) de Valera to give me the "permit to dig" that
I need in order to recover The Ark of The Covenant, and return Canada and
the world to God's Laws.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.


 I read your web site and I think we could express the conflict as that
 between "ego" and "super-ego" (without buying into Freud's
misinterpretation
 of these concepts). "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity". So ego or vanity
 usually wins. The super-ego, as spiritual plane rarely wins in this world.
 Your web site puts it in more Biblical terminology as mammon vs. God.
I think there is a great benefit in expressing these issues in words we
 all can understand, ie the vernacular. As for "unlawful humanity and
 unlawful laws of humanity", the two are inextricably intertwined. So we
read
 "There is none righteous, no not one" and "All our righteousness is as
 filthy rags", etc. If man's laws are not righteous in God's eyes, how can
 the inventors of those laws be righteous?
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not obsessed with "Vatican bashing" any
more
 than "Jew bashing" or anything else along those lines. The nation of
Israel,
 good/bad/indifferent in its outcome at least deserves full credit for
 attempting a modern theocracy. And so do the 50 or so members of the OIC,
 Organization of the Islamic Council. When is Christendom going to even
 attempt to design a "Godly society" vs. the "Godless society" warned of by
 Bob Wenman, MP in 1981. Wenman wasn't the only MP warning of that outcome
in
 the 1981 Commons Debates which Dennis Mills, MP sent me. S.J. Korchinski,
MP
 went so far as to say, "Nothing short of separation or revolt will
extricate
 Canadians from the mess we are in today." Mr. Wenman went so far as to
talk
 about the "DESECRATION" of the values of a Godly society by the Liberal
 Government. Jean Chretien was Justice Minister then. He is Prime Minister
 today, and I believe his grand strategy is the DESECRATION OF A GODLY
 SOCIETY.
The Godless Society of Chretien et al. is one in which child-murdering,
 sodomite-loving Christ-haters are hegemonic, in which usury, greed and
media
 lying is institutionalized. This has happened by design. Cowardly, shallow
 boot-lickers like the so-called "Christian Heritage Party", "Trinity
Western
 University"  and "Missionfest" lick their boots for a few pieces of silver
 while congratulating themselves on the feedom of religion in this country.
 And that explains why I have a human rights complaint going against Mfest,
 billed as the biggest missionary meet in the world. I am arguing that they
 have no lawful right to discriminate against any world religion in issuing
 display booths.
 Having other world religions proseltyizing at Mfest 2000 in Vancouver
might
 force the boot-lickers to tell everyone what a "Godly Society" is like. Of
 course they will keep fleeing from the light of truth like the cockroaches
 that they are but this would "put them over a barrel" so to speak.
But 

Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Prudy,

Well said, but for others to understand it needs to be explained that Christ
hates Xmas and said so in Revelation.

For full details please access:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


- Original Message -
From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel


 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/03/1999 1:19:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   "Rabbis view Christian festivities in Israel as a threat to the
Jewish
   foundations of the state.  They are claiming that even Christmas trees
   'defile Judaism.' 

 It would seem that the rabbis agree with Christ in this case.  I don;t
know
 who is defiling whom, since I don't know whether they are agreeing with
Him
 or He with they.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Franklin,

Actually I wrote that all human LAWS are illegal. But I guess it was just
that you made a typing error. Or did you misread and misinterpret what I
said?

I suggest you read what I said slowly and fully, please and then see if you
don't agree with what I'm doing.

You should, from your comments about the pope and the other so-called
christian religions, enjoy my website, especially:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm

Please spread it around to everyone you know and get them writing to the
Irish Minister for Heritage to persuade her to give me the "permit to dig"
at Tara to recover The Ark of The Covenant, ASAP.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



- Original Message -
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition
of God.


 -Caveat Lector-

 "According to God ALL humans are illegal" you write below. OK, I grant you
 that compared to Someone who has created the universe with its billions of
 stars x billions of galaxies (just for starters) we are more lowly than
 monkeys in a zoo who sense that there is a human keeper beyond the bars.
 Still, we read in Ottawa's Commons Debates from 1981, Doug Roche, MP's
 reference to a "Godless society" so by contrast we would expect there to
be
 a "Godly society". Even a primate like me can figure that out. Is there
more
 to all this than a lot of bananas we ask cogently?
Professor Mellert who got the October cover story of The Futurist
 (http://www.wfs.org/futurist.htm) suggests that the future of religion is
 that of a highly relativistic God. Well, I guess it depends on your
beliefs.
 And it depends on the TRUTHthe ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
In any case, I have been saying via Life Gazette, as tabloid in the
80's
 and online now, that this is the electric cool-aid acid test for "Religion
 Experts". And I believe it proves that at least Western churchianity from
 Protestant to Roman Catholic is a giant FRAUD. Vatican is an INSTITUTION
OF
 LIARS. It would be easy to prove me wrong.
 Look, this is easy to understand:

 FOR A PROFESSED RELIGION EXPERT FROM SALVATION ARMY TO ROMAN CATHOLIC TO
NOT
 KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "GODLY SOCIETY" AND AN "UNGODLY SOCIETY" IS
 LIKE A DENTIST NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEALTHY TOOTH AND AN
 UNHEALTHY TOOTH.

 In 1891, Vatican made a call for a socio-economic-political "reformation"
 and that document, titled RERUM NOVARUM has been "updated" with the
vanities
 of popocrats ever since. Yet no articulation of a "Godly society" has been
 made. THIS IS PROOF OF A CENTURY OF FRAUD.

 Now Vatican is about to send its Numero Uno Liar, the pope, to India and
 Iraq. The motto of the Times of India is "Let Truth Prevail". And Jesus
 Christ said, "I came to tell the truth". So let us hear from Numero Uno
how
 his billion subjects on the planet with all their expertise would spell
out
 "Babylon II". Just across the sand, Kuwait is planning Subia, a brand new
 city for 260,000. Why not combine something old and something new? Build a
 brand new city, Babylon II, around the Babylon Restoration Project.
 This would be a GODLY SOCIETY. The Russians might even like it as a
shining
 light unto the nations, a multi-national city centre for their
"Multi-Poley"
 World Model as an antidote to the depraved US-led New World Order.
 FWP.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition
 of God.


  -Caveat Lector-
 
 According to God ALL human laws are illegal.
 
 Therefore The Bible is the ONLY Law Book on Earth.
 
 Deuteronomy 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the Statutes and
unto
  the Judgments, which I teach you, for to DO [them], that ye may
  LIVE, and go in and possess the land which the "I AM" God of your
  fathers giveth you.
 4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither
  shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the
  Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you.
 
 During the British Coronation the Archbishop places The Bible in the
hands
 of the British monarch saying: "Our gracious king/queen, we present you
 with
 this Book, the most valuable thing that this world affords. Here is
Wisdom.
 This is the Royal Law. These are the lively oracles of God."
 
 The monarch swears to uphold The Law (PLEASE read Deuteronomy 17:14-20).
 
 Canadians are all Israelites by birth, being descended from the Ten
"Lost"
 Tribes of Israel and all Israelites signed The Covenant with God at Horeb
 in
 Sinai and must now return to keeping only God's L

Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Joshua2,

Please visit my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

and study it. Then you will find out how I know.

I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a sensible and
respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you said
about me last week.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links


 -Caveat Lector-

 JAH Publications wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him
coming.
 
  JAH.

 How do you know this???

 Joshua2

 
  --Original Message -
 
   Satan is fiction.
  
   Om
   K
  
 
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Re: [CTRL] Reptiles Rule the World Theory of David Icke

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Eagle 1,

It is very hard to take David Icke seriously, after 
he claimed on television, and I saw him do it personally, to be Christ and that 
his wife was the incarnation of the Archangel Michael.

Anyone who really understands the Scriptures as 
Christ does because Christ is the Word (Scriptures) made flesh, would not make 
such a ridiculous statement about his wife, or about Christ, because Christ and 
the Archangel Michael are one and the same person. Christ is a title and not a 
name. Christ's (the Spiritual Being that inhabited the body called Jesus) real 
name is Prince Michael the Archangel.

So, I have difficulty taking anything David Icke 
says too seriously,

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eagle 1 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 4:02 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] "Reptiles Rule the World" 
  Theory of David Icke
  
  
  
  . . . if Icke is correct in maintaining that reptoids 
  have been runninghuman politics ever since the days of Babylon and preying 
  on humans, etc.,then we'd expect to find a fairly large body of folklore, 
  among the Aryanpeoples especially (blue-eyed Aryans are supposedly their 
  favorite food),that would point toward that reality. The existence 
  of a sinister reptoidalpeople-eating elite . . . 
  
  Perhaps now we know why the push to quit smoking 
  is so prevailant. The reptoids don't like to eat people who are smokers 
  ???
  
  Food for thought. LOL
  
  
  Welcoming the NWO... let's get it over 
  with.
  
  eagle 1


Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Nessie,

Please study http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm where it
is all explained in detail.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Hello Victoria.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel


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 It would seem that the rabbis agree with Christ in this case.

 So what exactly is  Jesus supposed to have said about Christmas trees? And
 where did he say it?

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.

1999-01-02 Thread JAH Publications
ara can be found on my website at:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/


- Original Message -
From: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: APFN ONELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ChristianPatriot
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Cc: WEBMASTER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:41 AM
Subject: [apfn] Hanging by a thread (but not for long)


 Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Hanging by a thread (but not for long)

 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AMERICA HAS BEEN HANGING BY A
 THREAD.. What do we do next?
 by Randy Miller

 In one of my last posts, I stated that I was going to disband
 my list and forget the issues.  I still plan to but not quite yet.
 It seems that something mysterious is going on.  Perhaps a
 division in the new world order plans of sorts.  What am I
 referring to?  THAAD.

 THAAD has become THE issue behind the scenes in the NWO.  How
 do I know this?  Because it is causing quite a stir with
 Russia and China, that is how I know it.  Many of you might have
 seen the sight about 4 weeks in the night sky of a THAAD missile
 hunting down and killing an ABM over the Pacific.  It was
 a clear sight in Arizona.  A lot of people were bewildered by
 the sight.  Few had seen it before.  It was NOT normal.

 Just a few months ago the NWO, Russia and China were the best
 of buds.  The plans were all set, who would take over what.  Now
 apparently it is not all so clear.  The NWO poster boy is clearly
 worried.  Bill Clinton now backs THAAD a direct turn around
 from everything the liberal Democrats stand for.  SOMEBODY above
 Bill Clinton IS CLEARLY SCARED!
 Bernard Rapoport, Waco, Texas

P.S. Can anyone tell me (JAH) what THAAD stands for and the A part of ABM
(Atomic?)?

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From: GENE RITTER
To: JAH Publications
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Justice


I reckon it can go to the Alliance.  Last December I caught on fire, so to
speak.  Years of lingering questions and input from friends not
withstanding, right after Christmas the Lord nailed me.  I went out and
purchased several different Bibles (for myself and 2 teen daughters),
Concordances for all and jumped headlong into serious Bible Study.  I am now
hopelessly addicted.  I must be honest and admit that on more than one
occasion I have wept at the things I read.  Our country has fallen so far
from Grace that I find the Lord's patience to be a thing of awe.  And all
these "New Testament "Churches"" claiming that the Law has been done away
with and other such hooey.  I am no scholar yet by any means, but it appears
to me the only thing done away with is the Sacrificial Laws of Moses.  I
have yet to find any reference to the rest of the Law being done away with.
And then there is the question of the Sabbath.  Boy, have we been sold a
bill of goods or what ??  If we were to punish according to God's Law, even
just 10% of it, we would have the society I grew up in as a child.  Instead,
we have this cess-pool full of lazy, worthless scum bags with their hands
out.  Folks running around with no idea of moral decency.  Now make no
mistake, I am as lecherous as the next guy, but for the love of God would
the women please start wearing clothes!  Provocative dress should be
reserved for the bedroom, not the grocery store or the mall.  I tell you
what, if these aren't the end days the Lord is missing a heck of a good
chance.  It is very frustrating trying to raise 2 daughters (14  15) by
myself in a world gone goofy.  Thank God they got "captured" by the youth
group at church.  That has helped.  I know the Lord has a plan and it is
right on schedule, but it is still so sad to see what we have become as
opposed to what we might have been (and still could be with the right
miracle).  I have an FM Micro-Station at the house and thankfully some of my
listeners requested I read the Bible for a segment during my live show.  I
was glad of that because at this stage of my development I still can't get
enough.  Currently I use several Bibles: 1958 Douay-Westminster; 1611 KJV;
New KJV Study Bible; NIV Study Bible.  My quest continues...

Yours in Christ,

General Gene
(Republic of Texas)



- Original Message -
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 7:37 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of
God.


 -Caveat Lector-

 If "Party of Citizens" can get the court to admit that the Bible is the
 supreme law book in BC, then we win the case, don't you agree? As far as I
 can tell, when pro-lifers and pro-abortionists or so-called "pro-choicers"
 argue it out by invoking Biblical Law, the pro-lifers win easily.
 Agree/disagree? What is the best argument anyone can make from the Bible
 that God favors abortion?
 FWP.
 .
 
 
 From: "Frankl

[CTRL] Justice

1999-01-02 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Andre,

The punishment is not supposed to fit the crime. 
Punishment is supposed to prevent the crime from happening.

Prevention is better than cure. Why do you think 
America built a nuclear deterrent. So it wouldn't have to use it.

Enough said?

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

P.S. Who do you think knows most about Justice and 
what is best for you and America ("In God we trust"), you; the founding fathers; 
or God? Serious question. Does America really trust in God or is that just a 
another trendy cliche?