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Russian Journalists Targeted in Attacks
Corruption Investigator's Face Slashed

By Sharon LaFraniere
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, December  28, 2000; Page A16
MOSCOW, Dec. 27 -- Russian journalists are a worried bunch
these days.

In the past few months, the owner of the nation's only independent
television network was arrested for the second time. One of
Russia's most popular television commentators was pulled off the
air -- he says for criticizing President Vladimir Putin. A Moscow
newspaper was raided by the secret service after it published a
satellite photo of the sunken Russian submarine Kursk.
Yet even in this nail-biting context, the Dec. 16 attack on Moscow
reporter Oleg Luriye attracted notice. This was not because Luriye
is so well known; he is not, although his stories last year about
bribe-paying Kremlin contractors won him a modest reputation as a
digger.

The attack caused a stir because there seems to be no
explanation for it aside from Luriye's articles about corruption
among government officials, especially in the Kremlin. It was also
noteworthy because Moscow journalists, though subject to all
kinds of pressure, generally are not attacked with straight razors.
"It was a warning," said Luriye, sipping coffee in a restaurant last
week after his release from a hospital, where doctors stitched up
three slashes across his left cheek. "It was a demonstration of
power."

For Luriye's newspaper, the independent twice-weekly Novaya
Gazeta, it was the second assault on one of its journalists this
year. In July, a reporter who covered cultural affairs died after he
was beaten in the head with a hammer. Novaya Gazeta editors
said that reporter had apparently been mistaken for a colleague
who lived in the same building who was investigating allegations of
high-level corruption involving oil deals.

The assault on Luriye was another reprisal, said Yuri
Schekochikin, who is a deputy both to the newspaper's editor in
chief and to the head of the security committee in the lower house
of parliament. "I think this shows that the authorities are continuing
their policy of intimidating journalists," he said.

"I believe the attack . . . is typical of President Putin's press policy,
where there is room only for officially sanctioned . . . propaganda."
The Kremlin made no immediate response to Schekochikin's
comments.

Attacks on Russian journalists are not unusual. Oleg Panfilov, who
runs the Moscow Center for Journalism in Extreme Situations, said
he has counted 68 this year, including six involving Russian
reporters. Most attacks occur in the provinces, not in the capital,
and most are never solved, Panfilov said. Luriye was slashed, he
said, because someone wanted to silence him. He does not rule
out government officials, who he said "are slowly waging war
against journalists."

Luriye, 37, said he had just arrived home from a birthday party for a
friend when he was surrounded by four men. One of them closed
the garage door, shutting Luriye's wife inside. He said he offered
them his watch, wallet and car keys but that they showed not a
flicker of interest and said not a word. Only because his wife
backed the car out through the garage door did he escape greater
injury, Luriye said, adding that he suffered a concussion as well as
facial wounds.

Luriye said he suspects the attack was related to articles he
recently published accusing Alexander Voloshin, Putin's chief of
staff, of illegally enriching himself before he went to work in the
Kremlin through deals involving businessman Boris Berezovsky --
now the target of a criminal investigation. Voloshin has not
responded to Luriye's articles.

Three days before the attack, Luriye said, police officers came to
the newspaper's office and seized his files on Voloshin and
Berezovsky. The night before the attack, on a news program
broadcast by the independent television network NTV, Luriye
accused the Kremlin of singling out Putin's opponents for criminal
prosecution and ignoring allegations about Kremlin insiders.
Luriye said he does not expect the police to find his assailants. He
said officers busied themselves with forms and phone calls but left
the hat of one of his attackers lying in the snow, never tested his
clothes for blood and never dusted the garage-door handle for
fingerprints.

Asked what comes next, he said, "I continue to work." He will also
apply for a green card that would enable him to work in the United
States, he said, "just in case something happens again."
© 2000 The Washington Post Company


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wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all - security, comfort, and freedom.
When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to 
them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility then 
Athens ceased to be free and was never free again. - Edward Gibbon

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[CTRL] McVeigh Goes to Court Asking for Execution Date


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McVeigh Goes to Court Asking for Execution Date
Thursday, December 28, 2000

AP/Wide World

Timothy McVeigh faces a competency hearing Thursday over his
request to end his appeals.

"I'm asking the judge to protect him against himself, order a mental
status exam and put him on a suicide watch," said Paul Heath,
who narrowly escaped injury in the bombing. Heath wants McVeigh
to spend the rest of his life in prison.

More at http://www.foxnews.com/national/122800/mcveigh.sml

This reminds me of the old tale of Br'er Rabbit and the briar patch.

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[CTRL] AGAIN THE MILLENNIUM


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http://www.antiwar.com/stromberg/s122600.html

The Old Cause
by Joseph R. Stromberg
Antiwar.com
December  26, 2000
Western Civilization: Love It Or Leave It
AGAIN THE MILLENNIUM

Today we stand just a few days this side of the real thousand-year
mark, that is, midnight 31 December 2000.  You knew I wasn't
going to let that go, didn't you?   I still wonder why all the calendar-
challenged classes insisted on having a big song and dance last
year, but can't be bothered, it seems, to notice that January 1,
2001 is more than an ordinary New Year's Day.  The Brits even
built an insane Millennium Dome, which no one admits to liking, for
last year's premature party.  I suggest moving it to the fairgrounds
of one of our Midwestern States.   You could get a lot of grain and
cattle into that thing.

The reason why the New Millennium was welcomed in the wrong
year may be the same reason a lot of things happen when they
do.  Sir Ernest Gellner, the sociologist, once referred to the "postal
error theory of history," which may not have been original with him.
This theory held that, by some terrible mistake, the liberating,
revolutionary message meant for the working classes had been
handed over to sundry nationalist movements, with deplorable
results.  Of course,  where the message did get in the "right"
hands, even more damage was done, but why quibble?  Historians
still shed a conventional tear about what happened to poor Rosa
Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, but don't these historians know
what the comrades wanted to do?   Evidently, the "social changes"
envisioned by the comrades were just the thing, but at the end of
the 20th century we ought to know better.

METAHISTORY, QUIGLEY, AND CONSPIRACIES'
Metahistorians like Oswald Spengler, Arnold Toynbee, Pitrim
Sorokin, and Carroll Quigley sought to find the processes by which
civilizations rise and decline.  The first three were rather gloomy 
reacting in part to the civilizational disaster known as World War I
 although Spengler did dare us to throw those historical dice.
  It's just as well that he died before various historical actors threw
them in the disaster known as World War II.

One of the players in World War II, Uncle Joe Stalin, had a
metahistorical doctrine of his own, to which he contributed a
number of turgid essays even less readable than those of Lenin
and Trotsky.  On Joe's orders, as orchestrated by a Stalinist
professor of anthropology at Columbia University, Trotsky met with
assassination.  No wonder no one trusts anthropologists any
more.  Anyway, Stalin's historical doctrine held that if everyone
gave up control of everything to his regime, in time everyone would
have strawberries and cream, after which this horrible regime would
"wither away."  Even at 20 million plus deaths this seemed a good
deal to many people.  Others understandably resisted and under
cover of helping out, the other Uncle  Sam  made his bid for
world dominance.

Buoyed up by their own sense of competence, Yankee ingenuity,
and American know-how, our northeastern elite built a world empire
on which the sun has not yet set.  They didn't notice, or didn't
much care to notice, that in the process they had deconstructed
their own country.  Perhaps they just thought of it as a convenient
  place to stand while carrying out their good work.  I only wish
they had presented it clearly to the voters: "Support the empire,
destroy your way of life, you'll feel better when it's all over."  I'll bet
there wouldn't have been as big a consensus, had they done so.
So they said, instead: "Give us total power to stop the commies
and we'll give it back later.  Trust us."  Many people did trust
them.  H. L. Mencken long ago addressed why that might be.

PHASES OF CIVILIZATION

In a roundabout way, this brings us back to Quigley.  The Evolution
of Civilizations (Indianapolis: Liberty Press, 1979 [1961]) is
probably his most important book.  In this work Quigley sought to
find the developmental pattern of civilizations.  Very briefly, he
spied seven phases in the life of any civilization which lasted long
enough to go through the full set.  These are mixture, gestation,
expansion, conflict, empire, decay, and invasion.  These phases
are not "given" to observation but are generalized from what we
know about past civilizations.  There is no predictive science here,
nor does every civilization go through all seven stages.  Constituent
states within a civilization might so weaken the civilization through
constant warfare as to skip the empire phase, going straight from
conflict to decay and invasion.  A civilization in one of the first two
phases might run up against another in its expansion phase and
simply succumb.

Quigley believed that Western Civilization had, in effect, recycled
itself three times.  Uniquely, it had gone through three expansion
phases based on feudalism, merchant capitalism, and industrial
capitalism, respectively.  Each expansion phase had kindled a

Re: [CTRL] The 62 people granted clemency Friday by President Clinton


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On 28 Dec 2000, at 14:59, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

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 [Sorry if y'all have seen this, but I wondering if this is
 normal, i.e., the actual nature of the crimes and the shear
 amount of these pardons  comuntations??  To me, this is just
 unbelievable. The President of the United States can only give
 pardons and/or clemency for Federal crimes.  Take a look at this
 list and ask yourself how the crimes these people are supposed to have
 committed fell under the jurisdiction of the Federal government. If
 I'm not mistaking, MOST of these were, are, and should be state
 crimes, of which the Federal government has no legal role.  --MS]


Maybe they just know the "right" people and have enough cash to
spread around to make it worthwhile to pardon them.

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[CTRL] Stealing an Election


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http://www.lewrockwell.com/sobran/sobran123.html

Stealing an Election
by Joseph Sobran

Both the major parties have been accusing each other of trying to
"steal" the presidential election in Florida. But this mess is a clean
process indeed compared to one that occurred in Maryland in 1861.

In May 1861 the Civil War was already raging. President Abraham
Lincoln called on Maryland to send four regiments to fight for the
Union cause. But the state was bitterly divided over the war.

Most Marylanders didn't want their state to secede, but neither did
they favor war. It is widely forgotten that a large body of American
opinion held that the Confederate States had every right to secede
from the Union and thought they should be allowed to go in peace.
But to Lincoln, this view was "treason." By Lincoln's definition,
most Americans, not just Southerners, probably qualified
as traitors.

The Maryland state legislature replied to Lincoln's summons for
troops with a resolution condemning the war as "unconstitutional
and repugnant to civilization," adding that "for the sake
of humanity we are for peace and reconciliation, and solemnly
protest against this war, and will take no part in it." The legislature
also called "the present military occupation of Maryland"
a "flagrant violation of the Constitution."

Lincoln was infuriated. He sent informers to determine which
members of the legislature were "disloyal"  i.e., opposed to war.
On the night of September 12 he had federal troops arrest dozens
of legislators and other prominent citizens (including the mayor
of Baltimore and a Maryland congressman) he suspected of
Southern sympathies. Since Lincoln had also suspended the right
of habeas corpus, he claimed the power to arrest anyone
arbitrarily, without specific charges and without a trial. When the
chief justice of the United States, Roger Taney, had ruled that
Lincoln had no constitutional power to do this, Lincoln had not only
ignored the ruling but ordered Taney's arrest too! (If he had gone
through with this outrage, he might well have been impeached and
removed from office.)

Having depleted the Maryland legislature, Lincoln moved to refill it
with reliable Unionists. He stationed thousands of federal troops in
the state and used them to crush dissent. As the historian Charles
Adams writes in his book When in the Course of Human Events
(Lanham, Maryland: Rowman  Littlefield, 2000): "In November
there was an election, and to make sure only Union people were
elected, all members of the Federal armed forces voted, even
though they were not residents of the state. At the voting booths,
other voters had to pass through platoons of Union soldiers who
had bayonets affixed to their rifles." Southern sympathizers
attempting to vote were arrested.

By such means Lincoln got the legislature he wanted. "Democratic
government ceased in Maryland for the duration of the war,"
Adams notes. So much for "government of the people, by the
people, for the people," which, you'll recall, would "perish
from the earth" if the Union lost. Lincoln's devotion to his
avowed principles may be measured by such practices, which
showed the cynicism behind his gorgeous rhetoric.

The legend of Lincoln's humanitarianism and love of freedom will
not withstand an examination of his brutal wartime tactics, which
shocked civilized Europe. The cruelty of the Union armies as they
invaded the South is well known. What is less well known is how
the Union terrorized itself.

Across the North Lincoln authorized tens of thousands of arbitrary
arrests and shut down hundreds of newspapers for criticizing his
war. His military governors sometimes ordered hangings, without
trial, for minor offenses. Mere suspicion of disloyalty  very broadly
defined  was enough to expose the individual to danger from his
own government.  It was a genuine reign of terror, an era of
government by hysteria.  The Constitution was effectively
suspended.

Defenders of Lincoln and the Union cause contend that the
Constitution doesn't authorize states to secede. Actually, the
Constitution says nothing about secession; it doesn't authorize it,
and it doesn't forbid it.

But neither does the Constitution authorize its own abrogation for
the purpose of resisting secession. It remains binding on the
federal government, including the president, at all times, even
during war and insurrection.

Lincoln argued in effect that the Constitution could be saved only if
he could violate it. It was, and remains, a shabby argument; but it
was, and remains, successful propaganda.

December 27, 2000

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[CTRL] License to Kill


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License to Kill
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/dh/2000/david07-13-00.htm

David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | July 13, 2000
  IT
WHEN A YOUNG MAN named Matthew Shepard was tortured and
left to die on the high plains of Wyoming simply because he was
gay, the nation was outraged. Earlier that year, an even more brutal
attack was made on the person of James Byrd Jr., a black man in
Texas. Like Shepard's murder, Byrd's was followed by outpourings
of anger and grief from editorial pages and political pulpits across
the country.

Well and good enough. These responses are signs of health in the
body politic, the presence of a will to summon the better angels of
our nature, and to keep the savagery that lurks beneath the surface
of any civilized society safely at bay.

But by contrast, most of the nation never knew about another crime
that took place more than a year before the attack on James Byrd.
Three white Michigan youngsters hitched a train-ride as a teenage
 lark. When they got off the train, they found themselves in the
wrong urban neighborhood, surrounded by a gang of armed black
youths. One of the white teenagers, Michael Carter, aged fourteen,
was killed. Dustin Kaiser, aged fifteen, who was brutally beaten
and shot in the head, eventually recovered. The fourteen-year-old
girl (whose name has been withheld) was pistol-whipped and shot
in the face after being forced to perform oral sex on her attackers.

Though the six African-Americans responsible for the deed were
arrested and convicted, their attack was not prosecuted as a hate
crime. More to the point, most of the nation never knew that the
crime had taken place. It was not reported on page one of the
national press, and there was no public outrage expressed in the
nation's editorials or in the halls of Congress. Indeed, the few
papers that reported the incident nationally did so on their inside
pages. Beyond the Great Lakes region, the stories often failed to
mention the races of the participants at all.

The crime took place on July 21, 1997, but among readers of this
book, there will not be one in a hundred who has even heard of it,
because, as a hate crime, it was in a perverse sense politically
incorrect. To notice that black people, as well as whites, can be
 responsible for vicious crimes of hate, is improper. Hate crimes can
only be committed by an oppressor caste; therefore, what
happened in Michigan was not a hate crime at all.

The fact is that it is not tolerable in America to hate blacks, but
it is okay in our politically correct culture to hate white
people. Hollywood understands this rule of progressive etiquette. A
recent film, American History X, features (for the umpteenth
time) white neo-Nazis as the villains of a homily about racial
bigotry. The idea is that race hatred is synonymous with
"skin-heads" who are white. But a few years ago a
sensational mass murder trial in Miami spotlighted a black cult
leader named Yahweh Ben Yahweh, who required his cult
members to kill whites and bring back their ears as proof of the
deed. One of his recruits was a star football player. Seven people
were murdered. But there was no Hollywood scramble for the rights
to the Yahweh cult story, as there would have been if the colors
were reversed or everyone had been white. As a result, few
Americans are even aware that these murders ever took place.

According to Department of Justice figures, 85 percent of the
crimes of interracial violence nationwide are committed by blacks
against whites. How many of these crimes are actually the result of
black racism, and therefore hate crimes? There is no real way to
tell. There is, however, plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests
the problem is not negligible. A recent spate of brutal and random
murders in a single Los Angeles district, for example, was
explained by one black inhabitant to a Los Angeles Times reporter
as retaliation for the "fact" that "whites had taken all the black
jobs."

Of course, the leftist academy has a ready answer for every
question about black racism: Only whites can be racist. The
alleged reasoning behind this assertion is that in our society only
whites have power. This is the kind of absurdity only an intellectual
could think up. Forget the thousands of public officials great and
small, police chiefs, judges, administrators, and members of
congress, petty bureaucrats, corporate executives, and military
officers now drawn from the ranks of minorities, who wield social
power in various forms. At the most elemental level, a black with a
gun  and there are many  has the power of life and death over an
unarmed law-abiding citizen of any race or color.

The doctrine that only whites can be racist is, in fact, itself an
instigation to hate crimes. It is a doctrine that has already spread
to the secondary schools. The week after the Shepard killing, a
Seattle father called a national talk radio show on which I was a
guest and told the audience

[CTRL] Ted K flies on wings of high rollers


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http://www.msnbc.com/local/boshld/M5176.asp?cp1=1

Ted K flies on wings of high rollers

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy often flies corporate or private jets to
events, paying first-class fare, a fraction of the actual cost, to the
owners. -- Tara Bricking

Andrew Miga

WASHINGTON, Dec. 26 -   Frequent flier Sen. Edward M. Kennedy
accepted 11 cut-rate campaign trips over the past two years
aboard private jets owned by wealthy backers and companies with
key issues before the Senate.

 KENNEDY (D-MASS.) FLEW corporate jets provided by
defense giant Raytheon, a major health insurer and a powerful
Texas trial lawyer with a huge stake in bills limiting liability lawsuits.

 Kennedy, a Herald review of federal campaign records found,
also took flights on jets owned by a large labor union and two
prominent Boston businessmen, Thomas H. Lee and David Mugar.

 Under a well-known campaign law loophole, Kennedy was able
to use the luxury jets for a fraction of their actual cost - a practice
public watchdog groups allege is a backdoor means for special
interests to curry favor with politicians.

 The difference for a cross-country jaunt can easily run into tens
of thousands of dollars since executive jet charters can cost
upward of $3,000 per hour, according to industry sources.

 "It's a huge help to the candidate - a favor that these companies
hope the candidate will remember," said Stephen Weiss of the non-
partisan watchdog group, Center for Responsive Politics. "The
average working person certainly can't do it."

 The senior senator, who spends considerable time campaigning
nationwide on behalf of fellow Democrats, said he only uses the
private aircraft as a last resort to meet the demands of his busy
Senate schedule.

 "In certain situations Senator Kennedy's participation in events
would not be possible without the use of private planes," said
Kennedy spokesman Will Keyser. "He's used privately owned
planes when commercial flights could not meet the needs of his
schedule."

 Kennedy's office, like those of many other senior members of
Congress, keeps a list of familiar corporate and private jet owners
for its scheduling needs.

 During a western fund-raising swing last year, Kennedy hitched
a ride aboard a jet provided by prominent trial lawyer John Eddie
Williams Jr., whose successful Houston firm has been a leader in
the high-stakes tort reform fight on Capitol Hill.

 The firm funneled an eye-popping $250,000 to the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee in April as key bills limiting
lawsuits headed to the Senate floor. Kennedy, like many other
Democrats, has sided with trial lawyers in the fight.

 Trial lawyers fighting Republican efforts to curb lawsuits have
been among the biggest donors to Democrats this past election
season.

 American Family Life Assurance Co.'s Falcon 50 jet ferried
Kennedy, a Senate leader on health care reform, to a Southeastern
Massachusetts economic summit in 1999. AFLAC waged a major
lobbying battle in Congress to sell cancer insurance.

 When Kennedy needed an early-morning flight from D.C. to his
family's Hyannisport compound for a "60 Minutes II" interview April
20, the International Union of Bricklayers made its jet available.

 Two days later, records show, Massachusetts-based
Raytheon's executive jet whisked Kennedy from D.C. to a speech
at Boston's Suffolk University.

 "We had the flexibility to provide the jet to accommodate the
senator," said Raytheon spokeswoman Amy Hosmer, noting the
company abides strictly by Senate ethics rules for the flights.

 Raytheon, the Bricklayers, the trial lawyers and AFLAC each
run strong lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill seeking to sway
influential lawmakers, including Kennedy, on major issues.

 But Keyser said: "Senator Kennedy's record is unaffected by
these trips. His agenda has been clear and consistent for decades.
Nothing changes that."

 A campaign law loophole allows politicians to solicit and accept
flights aboard private and corporate jets as long as they pay the
equivalent first-class commercial fare - a small fraction of what the
flights are actually worth.

 The law essentially allows wealthy contributors, corporations
and other special interests to subsidize campaign travel, a practice
that watchdog groups sharply criticize as a de facto campaign
contribution.

 The Center for Responsive Politics considers the practice "one
of the biggest scams in Washington," noting many lawmakers take
full advantage of the loophole.

 The non-partisan Campaign Study Group, in a study last May,
found Kennedy's $18,730 spending on private jets since 1995 was
second in the Senate only to Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.),
who paid $101,029.

 Candidates turning to private jets avoid the hassles and mind-
boggling delays plaguing the traveling public

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill


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On 27 Dec 2000, at 11:20, Nessie wrote:

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 It is time to go back to the wisdom of the Founders, who wrote a
 constitution without reference to ethnic or gender groups. They did so
 in order to render us equal before the nation's system of law.


 They did no such thing. Slaves were considered three-fifths of a human
 being.



That is because the northern non-slaveholding states feared that
counting them as a whole human being would give the southern
states too much influence.  This was a compromise position.



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wanted their government severely limited; the
words "no" and "not" employed in restraint of government power occur 24 times in the 
first seven articles of the Constitution a
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Re: [CTRL] License to Kill


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On 27 Dec 2000, at 11:55, Nessie wrote:

 That was because the northern non-slaveholding states were afraid
 that counting them as a whole human being would give the
 southern states too much influence.  This was a compromise
 position.



 It doesn't matter why they did it. They did it. Ergo, David Horowitz
 lied.


He said the ideal was "imperfectly realized" - this implies
recognition of the compromise and recognition that there was room
for improvement.  "Lie" is too strong an accusation to apply to an
alternate interpretation of events.  "Opinion different from Nessie's
(or mine, anyone else's) opinion" doesn't equal "lie".  If it did, we
could all rightfully call at least half the people on this list liars just
because they don't agree with us.

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[CTRL] Unimperialism?

2000-12-21 Thread K


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Unimperialism?
by George Szamuely
New York Press
12/19/00

"Praise be, the age of cynical Western interventionism may be
past. Yesterday saw the final election (or selection) of a new
United States President, George W. Bush. The event could
mean little or it could mean much. That is always the case
when an empire changes hands Let us be optimistic."
Thus spoke Simon Jenkins writing in the Times of London last
week.

Jenkins is a sensible fellow, and while his optimism is
understandable it may also be a little premature. To be sure, during
the campaign Bush went out of his way to avoid vacuous
Albrightian bombast: "Im not so sure the role of the United
States is to go around the world and say this is the
way its got to be. I think one way for us to end up being viewed as
the ugly American is for us to go around the world saying, we do it
this way, so should you."
Americans have not heard refreshingly unimperial talk like this in
decades. Bush also called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops
from the Balkans. Yet when a spluttering Secretary-General
of NATO   the fat and repulsive Lord Robertson    intervened
outrageously in the election and confronted Bush about his
intentions in the Balkans, the Republican immediately backed
down. "NATO diplomats were left with the impression,"
  The New York Times purred, "that, if he is elected,
Mr. Bush is prepared to move slowly on the issue of Balkan
peacekeeping to avoid any early political crises with NATO.
Specifically, Lord Robertson said he had been assured that
there will be no unilateral action taken in relation to peacekeeping
forces." Nor was it reassuring that in his first major interview
following the election, on CBS 60 Minutes II, Bush declared "The
principal threat facing America is isolationismAmerica cant go it
alone."
Really? Principal threat? "Isolationism" is a tired cliche,
long devoid of any real meaning. Its only purpose is to
silence critics of Americas imperial agenda.
Whether Bush was sincere during the campaign or merely courting
the Buchananite vote matters very little now. Already he
is coming under enormous pressure from Washington think
tanks, Weekly Standard and Wall Street Journal types, the military-
industrial complex, corporate lobbyists, international aid
organizations, and former government officials now working as
foreign agents to make sure U.S. foreign policy remains as
interventionist as ever. George W. wants bipartisanship. He will not
get it on tax cuts, privatizing Social Security or education
vouchers. But he could get it on foreign policy. He can satisfy the
"neoconservatives" by bombing the "rogue states"; mainstream
Republicans by aggressively promoting U.S. commercial interests;
and liberals by championing "humanitarian intervention."

Condoleezza Rice, Bushs national security adviser, is a charming
and attractive woman. Colin Powell, the secretary of State,
is clearly no demented Madeleine Albright. Yet it is hard
to believe that either has the intellectual capability to
take on the likes of Paul Wolfowitz or Richard Perle, who
will most probably call the shots in a Bush administration.
Rice because she is, perhaps, too nice. Powell, because
his famous "doctrine" about using massive force,
getting involved only where national interests are at stake
and having an "exit strategy" says nothing about
what Americas "national interests" really are. Powell has no idea.
He is a military man who follows orders.
Wolfowitz and Perle, on the other hand, do have a pretty good idea.
America should be involved everywhere and at all times to
ensure its global hegemony. Wolfowitz heads the School of
Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.
His most famous foreign policy contribution was the 1992
memorandum, written when he was undersecretary of policy
at the Pentagon, in which he argued that the United States
had to maintain global military supremacy "to thwart
the emergence of a rival superpower in Europe, Asia or the
former Soviet Union." The United States had to "establish
and protect a new order" to discourage "advanced industrial
nations" from "challenging our leadership" while at the same time
maintaining a military dominance capable of "deterring potential
competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."
He envisaged going to war with Russia if it threatened Poland or
the Baltic states. Wolfowitzs belligerent, indeed nearly insane,
vision caused uproar and was swiftly withdrawn.

But Wolfowitz has been nothing if not faithful to his beliefs
ever since. He was an early advocate of expanding NATO.
He frets obsessively about the rise of China. In a 1997
speech he likened China to Imperial Germany. He regularly
warns of the military threat posed by Iran. In May 1998
he and Richard Perle signed an open letter to Newt Gingrich
and Trent Lott calling for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Wolfowitz also urged the bombing of Serbia long before

[CTRL] How Dare Government License Drivers?

2000-12-12 Thread K


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http://www.infomagic.net/liberty/vs001208.htm
Vin Suprynowicz
December 8, 2000

And now ... armed guards at the DMV

Constitutional authority for licensing cars and drivers is pretty
 tenuous, largely based on early legal sleight-of-hand designed to
purposely confuse the excisable professional of "driving" -- hauling
passengers or freight for profit on the public roads -- with simple
civilian travel.

The image is colorful -- the Slim Pickens "toll booth" scene from
the Mel Brooks film "Blazing Saddles" comes to mind -- but there's
no record that George Washington had to stop by each state
capitol along his route, signing up for the 18th century equivalent of
a "photo ID" and a little metal plate to hang over his horse's rump,
as he moved from Massachusetts through Connecticut, rushing to
the defense of New York in 1776 and Philadelphia in 1777.

In fact, drivers' licenses are thinly disguised police ID cards. (Does
one forget how to drive when moving across town, or into another
state? Then why isn't the license you got in another state the year
you graduated from high school still as "good" as the high school
diploma you earned that same year?)

Yet we obligingly buy into the euphemism that the "customers" of
the Department of Motor Vehicles want quick and efficient "service"
when we go wait in line to renew these sundry government forms --
as though anyone would be buying this bill of goods, absent the
armed and uniformed men who stand ready to handcuff us and
impound our valuable vehicles if we're caught without our "papers,
please."

Now, some of the peons are apparently growing restless. Nevada
Gov. Kenny Guinn said Monday that state workers fear for their
lives because "patrons" at DMV offices are going ballistic when
they're told -- after waiting in line for an average of more than an
hour -- not only that they're being refused the routine paperwork
they've come to pay for, but that their vehicles are instead going to
be impounded for overdue traffic or parking tickets.

DMV Director Richard Kirkland added that some victims have told
his employees that they will be killed or that they should be looking
over their shoulder when they leave work.

"Some have been grabbed around the throat," he added.
Oh, the humanity!

The governor Monday asked members of the Legislature's Interim
Finance Committee to provide funding for armed guards in the Las
Vegas and Reno DMV offices, to keep these unruly peasants in
line.

Though it's tempting to suggest they be given MP-40 submachine
guns and fancy black uniforms with silver skulls on the collars, the
better to help everyone appreciate the true nature of the transaction
being effected, in fact some better solutions are available:

First, the American system of governance is based on carefully
delineated lines of jurisdiction between the various levels of
government -- one of many safeguards against a vertically
integrated, Napoleonic tyranny.

A state motor vehicle office has no more business withholding a
state document from an otherwise qualified citizen based on non-
payment of local or municipal parking tickets, than the U.S. State
Department should be refusing us passports because our chicken
coops are alleged to be in violation of some local zoning code.
Yes, local judges have ruled that the state should impound the
vehicles of drivers who ignore local parking tickets. The correct
response from Gov. Guinn should be: "The judges have made their
ruling; now let them try to enforce it. My guys aren't going to do it,
because it's unconstitutional."

(The "balance of powers" is supposed to allow any of the three
branches to block an unconstitutional order from another --
otherwise we'd only need one branch of government: the courts.)
In the meantime, though, statistics provided by the governor and
his staff in the course of seeking funds for 64 new part-time
workers in an effort to decrease waiting times at the DMV offices --
now averaging 79 minutes per victim at the Sahara office in Las
Vegas -- should raise some eyebrows in their own right.
In part because of a perverse incentive in state employee contracts
which encourage workers to "use or lose" their "sick time," on any
given day 30 percent of employees are absent from their posts in
the Henderson, Carey Avenue and West Flamingo Road DMV
offices, the governor's staff revealed.

While on East Sahara, the average rate of absenteeism is a
whopping 49 percent.

Couple this with the astonishingly inefficient hunt-and-peck
methods of data entry which citizens are witnessing when they
finally do reach the front of the lines, and it's small wonder tempers
are near the breaking point.

"The way that the sick time pay is structured is one of the things
that we're looking at very closely," the governor's spokesmen, Jack
Finn, told me Tuesday.

And will the governor be looking at getting his DMV workers out of
the job of impounding autos to enforce municipal parking tickets?
"That's something we're

[CTRL] Demystifying Democracy: And delegitimating the State

2000-12-11 Thread K


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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a341b9f6f53.htm

December 10, 2000

THE UNVEILING
Behind the Political Curtain
By NEAL GABLER
THINGS used to be simpler in America. You could go to a movie
and marvel at the special effects without knowing exactly how they
were achieved. You could read about your favorite celebrities
without wallowing in the lurid details of their personal lives. You
could hear of a political accomplishment without knowing the
machinations behind it or the depredations of the officials who
effected it. In a sense, we lived in blissful ignorance.
Sometime after World War II, all that began to change. In an era of
postwar disillusionment, the ignorance and innocence gradually
gave way to hard-boiled skepticism. Over the last 50 years,
journalists began peeling back the layers and fully revealing the
people and institutions in which Americans placed their faith. What
they found underneath wasn't pretty  namely, that so much of
what we cherished was a sham. Now, after the legal wrangling last
week in Florida, this long process of demystification may have
reached a kind of climax with the shattering of one of our last
illusions  that our vote, the source of democratic power, is pure.
This is no small matter. But it may have led to something more
important. By demystifying the vote, Americans have effected a
transfer of power from the traditional political realm, where the
franchise is what mattered, to the more amorphous cultural realm,
where what mattered most was seeing things without illusions,
even the illusion that the electoral process was sacred.
Before this final epiphany, Americans had discovered that they had
been the victims of a series of deceptions, which is what the
historian Daniel Boorstin was getting at back in 1961 when he
coined the term " pseudo-event" in his path-breaking book "The
Image." Pseudo-events were manipulations by public relations
operatives to gain public attention. They looked genuine, but were
confected, and, as Mr. Boorstin observed, quickly began to "flood
our consciousness." Movie premieres, award ceremonies, press
conferences  all were pseudo-events operating in the guise of
reality, and we had been the dupes.
Though this sort of deception was omnipresent in America, politics
was one of its main arenas. What we saw during a campaign was
a candidate addressing the faithful on the stump or engaged in
debate or answering voters' questions to show who he was and
what he thought. What we didn't see was that the faithful had been
bused in and prepped to cheer, the debate answers scripted and
the voters' questions screened. In fact, as late as 1968, it came as
a shock when Joe McGinniss revealed in "The Selling of the
President" that Richard M. Nixon's presidential campaign had been
stage- managed by media advisers not to show who Nixon was but
to conceal who he was.
STILL, the demystification of politics may have been harder for
Americans to accept than the demystification of Hollywood or
athletics. It wasn't that they were deluded enough to believe the
system was pristine. They knew about the old Pendergast machine
in Kansas City and Tammany Hall in New York. They knew, too,
about Teapot Dome, where corruption invaded the inner sanctums
of the White House and the Capitol. But these were regarded as
abuses of the system, not endemic to it. Americans clung to the
belief that the system was sound and democracy inviolate. They
even believed their leaders were generally decent and honorable
men, statesmen rather than hacks, which is why the president
nearly always topped the list of the most respected people in the
nation.
But in an atmosphere of demystification, even this belief could
withstand only so many blows before it began to crumble. The
whacks came swiftly and often: the scandals of the Truman
administration; Eisenhower aide Sherman Adams receiving gifts,
including a vicuna coat, from a lobbyist; the swindles of Lyndon B.
Johnson's crony, Billy Sol Estes; allegations of banking violations
against Jimmy Carter's budget head Bert Lance; the Abscam
scandals in which congressmen were trapped in an F.B.I. sting;
the conviction of Dan Rostenkowski, powerful head of the House
Ways and Means Committee, for misusing federal funds and
padding his payroll, to name only a few on a long, long list.

And graft was the least of it. One could always understand the
temptations of lucre. It was more difficult to excuse the weakness
of the flesh, in part because it had always been carefully hidden
from public scrutiny through a sort of gentleman's agreement
between the press and the politicians. When it was finally revealed,
it arrived not as high tragedy but as low comedy. Wilbur Mills, a
predecessor of Mr. Rostenkowski as Ways and Means chairman,
was found to have had a drunken frolic with an Argentine stripper
named Fanne Foxe; Representative Wayne Hays, chairman of the
House Administration Committee, was found to have had an affair
with a staff

[CTRL] The Disappearing Male Student

2000-12-07 Thread K


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000143789351982rtmo=wetlniQ
batmo=rrrqpg=/et/00/12/6/wuni06.html

University women in a class of their own
By Philip Delves Broughton in New York

Decline in male students redefines gender gap [19 Oct '00] -

THIRTY years of effort by America's universities to attract more
women have left them with a new problem, a shortage of men.
Only 44 per cent of this year's admissions are men and academics
now wonder whether their encouragement and preference for
women may have gone too far. This year, several colleges have
instituted new policies of giving preference to male candidates
when their achievements are equal to those of female candidates.
Others, such as the University of North Carolina DePaul University
in Chicago, have begun actively pursuing male candidates by
sending out extra mailings to men and touting their more
masculine courses, such as science and engineering. In July, a
group of female applicants to the University of Georgia lost a
lawsuit in which they argued that the university's admissions policy
favoured men.
The pattern of declining male applications and rising female
university attendance was established in the 1970s. During the
past decade, however, it has worsened drastically. The figures have
been further skewed by a boom in older women attending
university, many after their children have left home. Government
estimates forecast that men will make up only 42 per cent of
university students by 2010.
One theory about the decline in men going to university lays the
blame on Bill Gates. The richest man in the world dropped out of
Harvard before earning a degree, setting a standard in the
technology industry for ambitious young men.
University, for many in the computer or internet business, is seen
as little more than a rest stop for the less capable. Overall, men
see less value in a university degree and are more reluctant to take
on the financial demands required to earn one.


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[CTRL] The Living Constitution - Manifesto for the total State

2000-12-07 Thread K


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The Living Constitution
by David Dieteman
One of the most nefarious influences in the minds of Americans is
the notion that the federal constitution of 1787 (the "U.S.
Constitution") is a "living" document.
What exactly does this mean?
It is supposed to mean that, rather than having the meaning of the
words on the paper, the federal constitution means whatever it
ought to mean at a given time. It necessarily follows from this that
it will not mean the same thing at different times.
Thus, despite the fact that the Fifth Amendment states that "No
man shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due
process of law," the United States Supreme Court once found it
"unconstitutional" for states to have capital punishment. It is
beyond rational dispute that a document which states that a man
may be "deprived of life" following the "due process of law" does
not itself outlaw executions.
  Yet the Supreme Court thought so.
The reason for this is that a "living" constitution is no constitution
at all  it is in fact nothing. Imagine for a moment that the
speed limit was a "living" speed limit. Rather than be bound by
the posted 65 (in Pennsylvania) or 70 (in Michigan), you could tell
the officer who pulls you over that the traffic law is "a living
thing," and that for your high-performance car, on this flat, straight,
dry road, such a law drawn up by dead white males (who probably
smoked tobacco and were heterosexuals, and were at least related
by skin color to persons who might have owned slaves) can have
no application to you.
Imagine that the laws against rape are "living," and this game is no
longer funny.
I do not contend that it is the role of citizens to sheepishly slave
under whatever tyrannical dictates are handed down from above. A
sustained gripe campaign ultimately ended Richard Nixon's "gas-
saving" 55 mile per hour speed limit (yes, it was originally enacted
in response to an "energy crisis," but hung on so long in part
because of "safety" concerns).
It is of the utmost importance, however, for citizens of a republic
such as the United States, and for citizens of the states and cities,
to realize that when you do not like the law, the way to change
it is not to pretend that it is not the law.
The concept of a constitution is of a document (or a group of
unwritten concepts and some written documents, as in the English
constitution) which serves as a skeletal structure for the body
politic. Rather than being a functional law which sets the speed
limit, for example, a constitution sets the shape of the regime
which will then make the laws which help us get through everyday
life. (Stop laughing  that is the theory. Anarcho-capitalism, i.e. a
purely private social order, is the subject of another essay.)
The trouble in the United States is that certain Americans, in their
super-hero like zeal to "make things right," lost patience with
the law. They chose to operate outside the legal process "to get
results." Guess what: your mother was right. This choice has
consequences.
Whereas American law in the 1950s and early 1960s may have
been too slow to adapt to social changes, the pendulum has now
swung fully to the other side. Today, no change can come fast
enough, and the notion that the law presents any real limits on
political action is nearly lost.
One notable example of American disrespect for the law is the
Clinton administration's response to court rulings over the powers
of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development  HUD,
for short. After HUD overstepped its bounds, a federal district judge
issued a ruling to that effect. In reply, the Clinton administration
instructed the regional HUD offices to ignore opinions of U.S.
Circuit Courts  the federal appeals courts which are one step
below the Supreme Court. The HUD offices were told only to abide
by a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.
This course of action shows a complete lack of respect for the law
(it may also show that Clinton has not fulfilled his oath  not
surprising for a perjurer  to uphold the Constitution and
execute the laws of the United States).
To be fair, the American disrespect for the law is not only the
product of zealous do-gooders striving to overturn unjust laws. It is
also the product of misguided legislators and citizens  who, to
be fair, are zealous do-gooders as well  who have given America
a severe case of hyperlexis (that's Latin for "too much law").
St. Thomas Aquinas famously writes in his Summa Theologica that
the law should not require more of a people than they are able to
do, as they will lose respect for the law. Despite the fact that St.
Thomas lived from 1225 to 1274, our "experts" in Washington (who
would be ousted by term limits) have not learned this lesson. Thus,
the Congress passes its share of burdensome laws  the tax
code, for one  while spawning other federal agencies with
 "rule-making" powers that are effectively legislative powers.
Between EPA and OSHA, try

[CTRL] A World Without You

2000-12-06 Thread K


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 A World Without You
by Gene Callahan
Last week, I wrote about my disgust with the Democratic Party's
tactics in the wake of the 2000 presidential election. That
column generated quite a bit of mail  most of it positive.
Some people worried, however, that I was endorsing the
Republican Party as an end in itself, that I felt that it offered a
coherent program for society.

Don't worry. The Republican Party, as currently constituted, is
simply the lesser of two evils. As I pointed out in another
column, its notion of "treading water" relative to the interventionist
state ignores the dynamics of the interventionist process, and
has been a recipe for continued state growth. Today, however,
it is the Democratic Party that is attempting to drive the state
forward on its next step toward becoming the total state. This
is why I believe our short term goals must include eliminating
the Democrats as a viable force in American politics.

But the only long-term political goal worth striving for is the
elimination of the state itself. History and theory agree that
any state, whatever the intentions of its founders and however
its "initial contract" is drawn up, ultimately will escape these
straightjackets and strive toward realization of the total state.

Along the way, the state will pass through a period where it needs
the governed to consent to its increasing power. Some of this
consent it can simply buy through redistribution. This is unlikely
to be sufficient, however, for reasons set out at length by Anthony
de Jasay in The State. Others, however, can be prompted
to consent by ideological means, by convincing them that the state
is compassionate, protective, productive, in short, that it is
necessary. De Jasay says, "People come to believe that because
they have states, they need them."

My friend Bob Murphy demonstrated the shallowness of some of
these arguments for the state last week on LewRockwell.com. In a
mail about my previous column, a friend suggested another raison
d'etre for the state. He asked me, "Without government, how can
the weak be protected?"

Perhaps this problem cannot be solved in a pure free market. But
contemplate the following list for a moment:
The American Indian genocide
Black slavery in the US
The military conquest and occupation of the South by Northern
US troops
The Armenian genocide
World War I
Mass starvation under Stalin
The Holocaust
The fire bombing of Dresden
Hiroshima and Nagasaki
The Chinese conquest and brutal repression of Tibet
The Chinese Cultural Revolution
The Vietnam War
The killing fields of Cambodia
Chernobyl
The death of 500,000 Iraqi children since the Gulf War

I could go on, but it hardly seems necessary. A short catalog
such as the above suggests that the more salient question would
be, "Without the state, who would slaughter the weak in such vast
numbers?" As Martin van Creveld would put it, "The modern state
has murdered countless MEEEions of innocent people."
In the above list I give the US more than its fair share of government
atrocities. This is not because I feel the US is especially culpable
as a country  quite the opposite. Rather, it is to show
that it is not only non-democratic states that have victimized
the weak, but even, and often, the world's "beacon of democracy."

Perhaps we can do no better than this. But it hardly seems
possible that we can do worse. Given the horrific record of the
state, why is its existence almost universally accepted as a given?
De Jasay's notion of false consciousness, brought about by the
combined effects of the state's activities and the citizens' desire for
comfort, peace of mind, and a trouble-free life, explains this
puzzle.

In the film The Matrix, Morpheus tells Neo that the matrix is the
world that has been pulled over our eyes to blind us from the truth
 that we are slaves. We are being used as batteries, as
energy generators. This is an apt metaphor for the condition of
man under the state. Our living energy is not our own to expend
for our freely chosen purposes. Rather, the state leaves us the
illusion of enough freedom that we do not rebel, while it siphons
off as much of our efforts for its purposes as it can. This does not
happen through a mystical process or some mysterious
conspiracy. It happens right in front of our eyes, and only the
ideology of the state prevents us from acknowledging this fact. If
you doubt that this is true, simply look at your next pay stub.
When you consider that the deductions on it represent only a part
of the state's take, you will likely find that more than half of your
efforts are simply taken by someone else and used for their
purposes. You are a battery.

It is unpleasant to contemplate this reality. Desperately, we
want to believe that the institution to which we sacrifice half
of our work and which regulates us in the rest of our lives must
be important. After all, if we thought for a minute that the state
was simply out for itself,

[CTRL] Senior Diplomat Resigns to Protest Albright's Action

2000-12-05 Thread K


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23860-
2000Dec4.html

Senior Diplomat Resigns to Protest Albright's Action
By Steven Mufson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December  5, 2000; Page A02
J. Stapleton Roy, one of the nation's two most senior foreign
service officers and a three-time U.S. ambassador, has resigned in
protest after Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright suspended
his deputy without pay and fired two other long-time State
Department officials over a missing top-secret laptop computer.
Albright last week suspended Donald Keyser, Roy's deputy at the
Bureau of Intelligence and Research, for 30 days without pay and
reassigned him to the State Department director general's office,
which is not involved in making policy. Sources said Albright had
quarrelled with Keyser over a plan to strip some of the bureau's
responsibilities in the wake of the laptop fiasco, and she informed
Keyser last week that he had "lost her confidence."
Roy, who had worked closely with Keyser several times during
their careers, then told Albright he would resign in protest, effective
today. A State Department official said Roy was scheduled to retire
in January and was leaving early "out of a sense of responsibility
and honor." Friends of Roy said that resigning was the strongest
way to signal his displeasure with Albright.
The high-level turmoil in the department reveals a festering dispute
over how to react to security lapses, and it left some foreign service
officers fuming about what they view as an excessive and uneven
crackdown by Albright.
"The secretary of state decided to pursue her crusade against what
she deems to be weak security inside the State Department," said
Robert Oakley, former ambassador to Somalia and Pakistan.
"Stape Roy says it is unjustified and said, 'If you've lost confidence
in my deputy, then you've lost confidence in me.' "
Since the disappearance of the laptop in January, Albright has
vowed to hold State Department officials accountable for security
lapses and to change the department's lax attitude toward security
matters. She has also moved to enhance the power of her
diplomatic security chief, David Carpenter, a former Secret Service
agent.
"Let's remember that this laptop had some of the highest classified
material we have," said a State Department official, defending
Albright. "The secretary has a responsibility to leave the bureau in
the best possible position as it goes through transition to ensure
that it will serve the next secretary well."
Albright has now disciplined six people, including Keyser, in the
Bureau of Intelligence and Research as a result of the
disappearance of the laptop computer. It held thousands of pages
of "codeword" information about weapons proliferation issues and
was reported missing from a supposedly secure conference room
at the State Department's headquarters.
Early last month, she dismissed two people: Allen W. Locke, a 34-
year civil servant in the senior executive service, and Nancy C.
May. Sources said Locke, who also has worked in the White
House and intelligence agencies, denies wrongdoing and will fight
the dismissal. May could not be reached for comment.
Keyser plans to file a grievance in regard to his suspension.
An inquiry into the laptop's disappearance revealed procedural
lapses such as leaving the door propped open to the conference
room and the failure to escort contractors lacking security
clearances in the area. But the inquiry failed to link any lapse or
individual to the disappearance of the laptop, which was never
recovered.
While Albright has cracked down on the intelligence bureau, known
by the initials INR, some foreign service officers complain that she
has not taken measures against those closest to her and contend
that she is scapegoating INR for other unsolved security breaches
in recent years.
Those breaches include the planting of an eavesdropping device in
a seventh-floor conference room and the removal of classified
papers from the secretary's outer office by a mysterious man in a
tweed coat who went unquestioned and unapprehended. An
unclassified laptop signed out to Albright confidante Morton
Halperin also disappeared, and no disciplinary action was taken.
The departure of Roy and the reassignment of Keyser will rob the
department of two of its top China experts. The son of a
missionary, Roy grew up in China, returned to the United States to
go to Princeton University, then joined the foreign service. He later
served as ambassador to China, Indonesia and Singapore. Keyser
had served in Beijing three times, had been the State Department's
director of Chinese and Mongolian affairs, and most recently held
the rank of ambassador as a special negotiator for conflicts in
Nagorno-Karabakh and former Soviet republics.
"That's a lot of brainpower suddenly removed from the State
Department," said William C. McC

[CTRL] The Coming Government Financial Crisis

2000-12-05 Thread K


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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/perrine1.html

The Coming Government Financial Crisis
by Jack Perrine
One of the great mysteries.at least to me.is the absence in
the media of any sort of discussion of what I consider the most
significant point at the present time.
It is difficult to define the time of birth of this epic bubble that
is now bursting.but its most dynamic growth certainly occurred
during the last three years or so. While the media are filled with
stories about how marvelous the economy isand even more
miraculous, how resilient the economy is/will be to any sort of
grief.the media are strangely silent on the greatest benefactor
from this immense bubble: evil government.
As thousands have made the high point of their lives day trading,
and the current value of stocks is the high point of most
conversations, little mention is made of the immense benefit that
government has gotten from a golden flood of capital-gains
taxes/profits from stock options/sharply higher sales taxesand a
cynic might wonder why Alan worked so hard to craft this epic
bubble.
One of the latest issues of The Economist has some graphs
showing the sharp upward move in total tax flow to government
both at the federal and state level levels over the last few
years.and there is certainly no doubt that the sum total of taxes
has increased far faster than the increase in the GDP. In California,
state spending has increased at a rate of about 30 percent a year
over the last few years and is now nearly 100 billion dollars a year.
However, we are down to a few trading days this year, and it will
take a major miracle to get stocks positive for the year, and it will
take some very idiotic accountants to not find some stocks to sell
to balance out any gains, so that there will be no capital gains
taxes this year.and worse, of course, both federal and state
governments received large advance payments on taxes in March,
June, and September that will mostly have to be given back next
year as newly impoverished tax payers file for immense refunds.
The way the NASDAQ is behaving, it will be quite some time before
profits from stock options cause much money to flow into
government coffers, and from early indications, this Christmas is
going to a major bust, as those who are watching the value of their
stocks decline each day do ever less shopping.
So, the major question is how will government adjust to a serious
decline in income. I would imagine that government at all levels will
see something like a 20 to 25 percent decline in income next year.
For instance, California has a 100 billion dollar budget, but with the
collapse in equity prices, one imagines that next year will see
75 to 80 billion in income. I have been wondering for some time
which programs will be cut...and, more interesting, how. States,
unlike the federal government, cannot run deficits and any attempt
to increase other taxes while millions are newly impoverished and
at risk of losing their homes that they stupidly borrowed against
to buy stocks, would cause recall petitions to circulate with great
ease for any legislator so silly as to want to raise taxes during
such an economic calamity.
The federal government can print money at will, but this would put
immense strain on the dollar and bond market. The latter, of
course, has been looking for surpluses forever and to suddenly
have hundreds of billions of dollars of new Treasury paper sold to
make up for the lack of capital-gains taxes would drive bonds down
spectacularly, and eliminate instantly the desire of foreigners to
hold any paper of such of deadbeat country.
At any rate, I suspect that one great beneficiary of this bursting
bubble will be freedom, as millions of useless government
employees are suddenly discharged, and jillions of unconstitutional
programs are not cancelled but made unenforceable as all the
people who were imposing them on the country have been laid off.
At any rate, the governments reliance on financing itself to a large
part from the profits of a bursting bubble means that government
will take the largest his as the bubble bursts.and that will
certainly be a blessing.
In the 30s as epic depression covered the land, a very devout
people began to forsake God who seemingly had abandoned them,
and put their faith and belief in government, which seemingly was
leading them out of the hell hole they were in. But now, as
government will be seen as the cause of virtually everyone's new
impoverishment, and virtually all will see that government only has
the power to make things worse.
There will be the beginning of a wide-scale abandoning of
government, and a seeking of something more substantial and
reliable to put one's trust in, and that can only be for the good. And
yet in spite of this epic change about to happen there is no
mention at all of any of this in the media.
December 5, 2000
Jack Perrine runs Athena Programming in Pasadena, CA.


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[CTRL] FLORIDA ELECTORS HARASSED.

2000-12-04 Thread K


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http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/default-
2000124232237.htm

December 4, 2000
Ugly tactics put stress on electors

By Steve Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

 TALLAHASSEE, Fla.  Carole Jean Jordan, one of 25
Republican Florida presidential electors, got an e-mail so disturbing
she turned it over to Vero Beach police as evidence.
  "It was ugly, threatening," Miss Jordan said. "It was telling me I
would be sorry for this."
 The Florida election battlefield is spreading into the homes of
these Republicans, who are pledged to make official the
presidential election of George W. Bush when the Electoral College
meets Dec. 18.
 Three defections among Republican electors could hand
Democrat Al Gore the presidency. No wonder these hand-picked
party faithful are being beckoned by the other side. Most of the
Bush electors attribute the effort to organized Democrats.
 They have been barraged with letters and phone calls, some
demanding, others more restrained.
 "I have letters, and I have no doubt there is a Gore connection,"
said Miss Jordan. "I feel it is offensive to think that we would
change our minds. This is not about mind changing, this is not a
game."
 Most of Florida's electors are aware that Bob Beckel, who
managed Democrat Walter Mondale's presidential campaign in
1984, has publicly boasted, "I'm trying to kidnap these electors in
states that [Mr. Bush] won that are not legally bound to him that
have a right to vote how they want to."
 Mr. Beckel, who did not return calls from The Washington
Times, has also said that the Gore campaign would be notified if he
contacted any electors.
 The Gore camp has denied any involvement with contacting
Bush electors and points out that Mr. Gore has said he would not
accept their votes.
 Marsha Nippert spat out Mr. Beckel's name like that of an
avowed enemy. The Florida elector endured a vicious election
season as campaign manager for Mr. Bush in Sarasota County,
south of Tampa.
 "I get them all  faxes, phone calls, letters," said Mrs. Nippert,
who said she came home on election night to find her phone lines
cut. "The idea that, as they say, I'm not being patriotic because I'm
not willing to switch  well, I find that very offensive."
 Each state is entitled to a number of electors equal to the
number of members of Congress and senators from the state.
These electors are nominated by the party and take an oath to vote
for the candidate on whose behalf they are nominated.
 It is not clear whether there is any state penalty for turncoat
electors, although those being contacted are told that Florida is a
state with no penalty for such switches.
 No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as
pledged, which could mean that the only consequence would be a
guilty conscience.
 Democrats must think Bush elector Berta Moralejo is a
potential swing vote. Her phone rings incessantly, she said  up
to 25 calls on some days. Letters beseeching her to consider Mr.
Gore started pouring in a little over two weeks ago.
 "They always try to tell me that they aren't for either candidate
and then tell me that I should vote for the other party," said Miss
Moralejo, a Tampa resident.
 "They don't talk about anything substantial. They say that they
are independent, but they all want me to vote for Al Gore. There's
no way," says Miss Moralejo, a staunch Republican who fled
communist Cuba in 1962 and who worked on Gov. Jeb Bush's 1998
campaign.
 Florida electors are chosen by the state committee of the
political party. Some, such as Florida House Speaker Tom
Feeney, are elected officials. Others are party faithful who have
worked on campaigns over the years. Nineteen of Florida's 25 Bush
electors gave a combined total of $250,000 to Mr. Bush's campaign.
 The names, addresses and phone numbers of the Florida
electors and those from several other states  were posted on
the Internet, drawing attention to what one elector called "a very
fleeting 15 minutes" of fame.
 But Charles Kane, a retired attorney in Stuart, said the publicity
has also resulted in a number of unwanted encounters.
 "I received a letter urging me to vote 'with the majority of
Americans,' " Mr. Kane said. "I've also gotten four or five phone
calls urging me to change my vote. I don't think I've received any
calls from the Gore people, at least none that I can identify."
 One of those who sent letters to the electors is Padgett
Coventry Price, a California lawyer who was disbarred for failing to
reveal to clients her conviction and prison sentence for income tax
evasion in 1998.
 Mrs. Price denied any party connection.
 "I sent them letters," she said yesterday. "But I have not talked
to the party, nor have I spoken to the Gore people."
 Mr. Beckel recently denied ever contacting any electors,
despite Republican accusations.
 In a recent e-mail, Republican National Committee Chairman
Jim

[CTRL] Supreme Justice Breyer -Whether we win, whether your side wins.

2000-12-04 Thread K


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X DRUDGE REPORT X SUN DEC 03, 2000 20:29:31 ET
X
CONTROVERSY SWIRLS AROUND SUPREME JUSTICE
BREYER; COMMENTS MADE BY GORE 'FRIEND'  INDICATE
PREJUDICE

As the nation waits for the US Supreme Court to rule, Justice
Stephen Breyer found himself in the middle of complete
controversy after Friday's historic oral arguments where he
indicated a prejudice against Florida's Secretary of State.

Justice Breyer, appointed by the Clinton/Gore administration,
slipped during questioning and revealed just how   Election 2000
has become a bitter battle split down partisan lines -- even inside of
the land's highest court!

Breyer stunned watchers inside of the courtroom as he grilled
Joseph Klock, a lawyer for Republican Secretary of State Katherine
Harris. Justice Breyer framed the debate by stating:  Whether we
win, whether your side wins.

"And now the secretary has certified a winner," Justice Breyer
declared. "And therefore, I guess, whether we win -- whether your
side, the side you're supporting wins or loses, it doesn't change
that."

The Justice's view that he is on the opposing side of Secretary
Harris, who awarded George Bush the state's electoral votes,  may
be rooted in the fact that Vice President Gore is a personal friend --
who argued vigorously for the selection and confirmation of Breyer
to the Court.

Gore was a driving force during formal meetings held by President
Clinton's Supreme Court search team in the Spring of 1994.  During
the sessions, a list of a dozen prospects were considered to fill
retiring Justice Harry  Blackmun's seat.  In the end, the nomination
was given to Breyer, a personal friend of Gore's.

And Gore presided over Breyer's swearing-in ceremony.

"Justice Breyer has already given much," Gore intoned at the East
Room ceremony in August, 1994.

"But his greatest challenges lie ahead.  The court he joins will no
doubt face questions of great difficulty and consequence.  We will
all need his wisdom to help shape America's future into the next
century and beyond."

On July 8, 1994, Gore said of Breyer:  "Just speaking in personal
terms, it is a great pleasure to be able to promote the virtue of this
particular nomination.  He is a friend and he is obviously an
outstanding jurist... the more you know him, the more you come to
appreciate what he is really like -- his wife and his family and he,
himself, are really wonderful people... His whole approach to life,  I
think, is just a real model.  I think he's a wonderful person."

Breyer's "whether we win, whether your side wins" comment made
in open court on Friday ignited nonstop conversations throughout
Washington, even though the nation's main press has remained
silent on the slip.

Said one insider:  "What if  Justice Scalia had made such a
revealing comment?  Or Clarence Thomas? Another media
lynching would have begun, at a minimum with calls for recusal
from Jesse Jackson."

One court staffer told the DRUDGE REPORT late Sunday, "I think
you can now understand why the justices would rather debate
without the glare of the camera, or even the broadcast microphone."

A Gore campaign spokesman refused to comment for this report.
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[CTRL] Gore Agonistes

2000-11-29 Thread K


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OpinionJournal
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MORNING NOONAN NIGHT
Gore Agonistes
It's a wonder the vice president can sleep at night.
BY PEGGY NOONAN
Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:01 a.m. EST
The scene: Midnight, Tuesday, in a mansion in the city. Inside, on
the second floor, a handsome man with dark hair and sharp but
fleshy features thrashes about on a king-size bed. He can't sleep.
It's the noise. They're chanting outside, across the street-"GET
OUT OF DICK CHENEY'S HOUSE! GET OUT OF DICK
CHENEY'S HOUSE!"
Close-up: The man in the bed puts a pillow over his head, around
his ears. We hear his muffled internal dialogue:
"I'm gonna win this thing one way or the other, mark my words. Tie
it up in the courts. Tie it up in controversy. I'll exhaust Bush into
conceding for the good of the nation. Heck, time I'm done I'll
exhaust the nation into conceding.

"Why not? What do I lose? If I win I win-everything. If I lose I still
get to make a gracious-loser speech and say all I was looking for
was justice. A really great 'Profiles in Courage' type speech. If we
can get those yokel judges to string this thing along we can win
back public opinion, and even if at the end I don't win by a dozen
votes I'll still have clouded Bush's victory even more.

"If I walk now what do I get? Nothing. I'll be nothing. This is my life.
What am I gonna do, run a government in exile? Who'd join? No
one in the party likes me. What will I do with my résumé? Go
home and run? I couldn't even carry Tennessee. Make speeches at
50, 75 grand a pop? What does that get me? Tipper's no litigator.
And Hillary could steal my thunder. A Clinton-Gore showdown in
2004--I'll lose that battle. In a primary she'll roast my chestnuts on
an open fire, with Jack Frost nipping at my nose! Bill Clinton will
help her-I'm Sore Loserman who blew the patrimony.

"I thought my speech Monday night was good. The flags, the
emotion-'A vote is not just a piece of paper. A vote is a human
voice . . .' I thought I got it across that this isn't about me. I'm
protecting democracy.

"Learned that from Bill. The impeachment, Monica, the mess. He
went around saying 'This isn't about me, this is about protecting
the Constitution.' So that's what he was doing. Talk about
multitasking! But it worked.

"Nobody caught the tense I used the other night when I talked
about the outcome. 'If the American people choose me, so be it. If
they choose Governor Bush, so be it . . .' Not chose--choose.
Future tense for the future president. This election is not over. The
campaign is not over. There is no outcome. It must be discovered.
In the future.

"The polls are turning against me, so now I'm asking for a full state
recount. It'll take days, weeks, months, to get this all sorted out in
court. But I think it makes me look fair.

"I know they're making fun of me. They think I'm like Rhett in 'Gone
with the Wind' after his daughter Bonnie Blue dies-he stays in the
room with the coffin making believe she's not dead. They're all
waiting for Miss Mellie to come in and tell me it's over.

"Well, there is no Miss Mellie. And it's not over. I get up every day
and game-plan, just like I used to. I tell Billy Daley what to do, I tell
the speechwriter what I want, I tell Tipper to get out there and wave.
We're only buying ice cream, but so what?

"I saw Bush in his rinky-dink little speech. The way if the prompter
doesn't move quick enough to the next line he stops and waits like
a doofus. 'And so I will create a transition' pause, pause, pause,
'team.' He doesn't reassure with his strength. I reassure with my
strength.

"And Reagan's. I did a full Reagan imitation Monday night and all
Tuesday. I've studied the Gipper and do him better than anyone.
Why doesn't anyone tag me on this? Get an old tape of Reagan
standing at a lectern, the way he cocked his head, did a little
shoulder roll, the good-natured chuckle. Can't they see I've totally
ripped it all off and put it on like a suit? I've become him, his
mannerisms are mine! I do this because he was good-and if I seem
like him, people will think I'm good.

"But I'm no phony, I'm me: the man who understands media and
who tries to seem like other men you like. I'm just looking for the
most popular version of me. If the American people would settle
down and pick the one they like best--Reagan Gore, Kennedy
touch-football Gore--I'd stick with it. I have discipline. But can they
decide? No. They lack discipline.

"Speaking of the president. He's loving all this. Me and Bush get to
play the part of the warring children, he gets to play The Wise
Judicious One. He gets to wear the Mideast Peace Face--'Surely
we can reason together, Yasser.' That phony good-natured 'children
will squabble' look he gets. He likes what's going on because it
makes him feel like-well, not a child. Like a victor. Like the Man
Who Didn't Need a Recount.

"Wait till I'm president and it's pardon time. I'll wear my good-
natured Children Get Into Trouble face.

"I have friends

[CTRL] Fw: Lawyer Asks Boies to Explain Misrepresentation

2000-11-28 Thread K


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Lawyer Asks Boies to Explain Misrepresentation
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb10
75995

Monday, Nov. 27, 2000

John B. Thompson, Attorney
1172 South Dixie Highway, Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146-2750
Phone: 305-666-4366
Fax: 305-666-7275
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

November 27, 2000

David Boies, Attorney
Boies, Schiller, and Flexner
5301 Wisconsin Avenue N.W.
Washington, D.C. VIA FAX to 202-237-6131

Re: False Representation to Florida Supreme Court about
Illinois "Dimpled Chad" Case

Dear Mr. Boies:

It has come to my attention, and I am sure it has come to yours
as well, that you falsely characterized the court's ruling in the
Illinois "dimpled chad" case.

You told the Florida Supreme Court last week that that case
allowed the hand recounting of dimpled chads. Our state's high
court seemed impressed with that fact.

One problem, though. A big problem. The Illinois court ruled just the
opposite way, disallowing the counting of dimpled chads. The
affidavit
you relied upon is false, and you now know that it is false.

You have a clear and mandatory duty immediately to inform the
Florida Supreme Court of your misrepresentation to the seven
Justices in this critical regard.

Any failure on your part is clearly subject to review and discipline
by the appropriate authorities because such a failure would
constitute an ethical breach on your part which compromises
justice and is prejudicial to the opposing parties.

You have until five o'clock p.m., Tuesday, November 28, 2000, to
inform me by fax at the above number that you have alerted the
Florida Supreme Court of your misrepresentation.

Best, John B. Thompson

Copy: Florida Supreme Court, Media



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[CTRL] GUNZBURGER'S GALL

2000-11-26 Thread K

 a determination that if two punches were
 present, and one of the punches was in a spot not occupied by a candidate
 (spot 1, or spots 12 and on), the vote would count for the candidate.  If
 the second punch was in a spot occupied by another candidate (spot 2-11),
 it would be classified as an overvote.)  (Broward County Canvassing Board,
 Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1493)
Gunzburger Is Even Trying To Rationalize Bush
 Votes Into Gore Votes
JUDGE LEE: 17D, there is only one ballot disputed.  It's 17D 2.
JUDGE ROSENBERG:  No intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: They voted only in three races for congress and for Nelson, 
and I believe there is an intent to also vote, because in the bottom of that is a 
punch for Gore.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Gore?
JUDGE LEE:  It's really a punch for Bush.
JUDGE ROSENBERG:  If it's for anybody, it's Bush.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER:  You're right.
 (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November
 23, 2000, p. 1438)
Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where
 Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known
JUDGE LEE:  G5
JUDGE ROSENBERG:  (No Comment)
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER:  I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out.  I think 
it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also.
JUDGE LEE:  So going back to this on, Judge Rosenberg, G5.
JUDGE ROSENBERG:  I don't think it's a reasonable certainty.
JUDGE LEE:I agree with Judge Rosenberg on G5.
 (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November
 23, 2000, p. 1489)
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[CTRL] humor - 50 ways to screw the voters

2000-11-24 Thread K


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 The problem is all inside your head Bill Daley said
to me
 The answer is easy if you take it logic'lly
 I'd like to help you in your struggle to be king
 There must be 50 ways to screw the voters.

 He said call Reverend Jesse Jackson to intrude
 And soon he'll cause a riot so Bush votes they will
exclude
 And he will rant and rave and he'll be so very crude
 There must be 50 ways to screw the voters.
 50 ways to screw the voters.

Chorus:
 Just file a new brief, chief
 Take the Bush ballots out, lout
 Just tape over their votes, Joe
 Just make yourself king

 Or you punch one for us, Gus
 You just need to cheat so much
 Just dimple more chad, Thad
 And make yourself king

 He said it grieves me now to see you in such pain
 Wish there was somethin' I could do to make you smile
again
 I said I appreciate that, and could you please explain
about the 50 ways
 He said why don't we call the Florida supremes.
 I'm sure in the morning they'll fulfill your fondest
dreams
 And when he kissed my feet I realized he probably was
right
 There must be 50 ways to screw the voters.
 50 ways to screw the voters.

Chorus:
 Steal a voting machine, Gene
 Count the Gore ballots twice, Bryce
 Just shuffle the stacks, Jack
 And make yourself king.

 Or you punch one for us, Gus
 You just need to cheat so much
 Just dimple more chad, Thad
  And make yourself king


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our country will stand in need of its experienced
patriots to prevent its ruin. --Samuel Adams

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[CTRL] Humor - Fw: Democrat Rules of Golf

2000-11-22 Thread K


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Subject: Democrat Rules of Golf

1.   Democrats get to keep shooting until one gets par or an
acceptable score.
2.   Democrats are allowed to keep score by hand, Republicans
are not allowed to keep score at all, the Democrats will appoint
someone to keep  score for them.
 3.   If a Republican shoots par or under par on a hole, a
Democratic appointee will sue in Court to a Democratic appointed
Judge that the score is invalid.
4.   Holes for Democrats will be 3ft in diameter (to allow less
confusion); Republicans will use the regulation size holes.
5.   If a shot is missed by a Democrat it will be counted if the
Democrat intended it to go in, and can certify this by written
statement to Rev. Jessie Jackson.
 6.   Scores by Democrats can be changed after the round, if
they can prove one of the following:
 a)  Trees were improperly placed on the course
 b)   Wind speed was too strong
 c)   Water was placed on the course in away that confused
the Democrat on club selection
--


But how is this legal plunder to be identified?
Quite simply. See if the law takes from some
persons what belongs to them, and gives it to
other persons to whom it does not belong. See
if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of
another by doing what the citizen himself cannot
do without committing a crime. --Frederic Bastiat

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[CTRL] Police Say Florida Democrat Had a Votomatic in His Car

2000-11-16 Thread K


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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/florida_votamati
c_001115.html

Missing Voting
Mechanism Recovered

Police Say Florida Democrat Had a Votomatic in His Car

By Chris Vlasto and David Ruppe

Nov. 15 Several days after presidential votes were tallied in what
has become the hotbed of Floridas post-election confusion, police
in Palm Beach County confiscated a ballot-box mechanism from
the car of a well-known local Democrat.
The mechanism, called a Votomatic, did not contain any
ballots. Its a device used on some types of ballot boxes to punch
votes through ballot cards, which are then tallied by computers.
According to a police report filed at the Palm Beach County
sheriffs office and obtained by ABCNEWS, Irving Slosberg, 53,
pulled the mechanism from his car and handed it over to police on
Nov. 11 after denying to a county government employee that he
had it.
When told of the incident, Palm Beach Countys supervisor of
elections, Theresa LePore, declined to press charges, according to
the report.
She noted that this incident did occur during the hand count of
the presidential election and LePore stated she did not wish to
pursue further this matter at this time due to extenuating
circumstances, it said.
No further action was taken.
County Official Contacts Authorities
Slosberg, a 53-year-old resident of nearby Boca Raton who owns a
handbag company, recently won a seat in the state Legislature
amid allegations he tried to buy his election.
The officer who filed the report, Deputy Sheriff Daniel Grose, had
been working a special elections detail when he was contacted by
Denise Cote, director of public affairs for Palm Beach County. Cote
said she believed Slosberg had an official Palm Beach County
ballot box, according to the police report.
Cote told the deputy she first wanted to speak with Slosberg
alone to convince him to give the machinery back, but she asked
the officer to stand by. Ten minutes later, Cote returned to the
officer and said Slosberg had become confrontational and denied
having the mechanism.
I asked Mr. Slosberg to return it to me, and he said no, he
intended to use it, Cote told ABCNEWS.com. She said Slosberg
did not say how he wanted to use it and he declined to say how he
had obtained it.
I was told by the countys attorneys office that it must have
been taken from a voting booth, because there was no other way
that he could have obtained it, Cote said.
When the officer asked Slosberg whether he had the item,
Slosberg led the officer to his car and handed over the Votomatic,
according to the police report.
Elected After a Recount
Slosberg won his new seat during a heated and extremely close
election.
Just days before a Democratic runoff, which he won, his
opponent, incumbent Curt Levine, filed a state ethics complaint,
accusing Slosberg of trying to buy the election by giving away
thousands of handbags and paying retirees phony consulting fees.
Slosbergs defeat of Levine practically guaranteed him a  term
that reportedly pays nearly $27,000 a year for representing the
Boca Raton district. On Nov. 7, he defeated a lesser-known write-in
candidate, Robert A. Sloan III, in the general election.
In the primary election, Slosberg had barely squeaked past
Levine. He reportedly had 50.5 percent of the votes to Levines 49.5
percent. Slosberg was declared the winner after a recount of the
votes.
It Disappeared
A Palm Beach Post political columnist wrote Monday that
Slosberg had been schlepping the mechanism around the county
government center like a traveling election equipment salesman.
He was happy to provide a demonstration of the countys ballot
problems for anyone with a TV camera last week, wrote columnist
George Bennett.
But Slosberg was no longer toting the visual aid Saturday night,
after Mary McCarty, a Palm Beach County commissioner,
demanded to know how he got his hands on a piece of official
county voting machinery, Bennett wrote.
It disappeared, Slosberg said Sunday when asked about the
Votomatic.

Copyright ©2000  ABC News Internet Ventures.


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necessary to love power; but love of power is
not connected with goodness but with qualities
that are the opposite of goodness, such as pride,
cunning and cruelty. - Leo Tolstoy

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Re: [CTRL] 'Dubya' Bush's nephew in car sex romp

2000-11-15 Thread K


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On 15 Nov 2000, at 9:49, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:


 It's odd only in that the Bush family values have not "trickled down."
  Prudy



Actually, he's learned from Clinton's play book and aims to be
President himself one day.  He knows this will look good on his
resume and remind all the ageing libs of their boy Clinton,
garnering the nostalgia vote.

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[CTRL] Press Bias Clouds Election Reporting


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  http://insightmag.com/archive/200012053.shtml

 12/04/2000
the last word

By Paul M. Rodriguez, Managing Editor
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Press Bias Clouds Election Reporting


It has come down to this: In the face of a potential constitutional
crisis, press bias has fanned the flames of American discontent
with the electoral process. Beyond the double-whammy mistakes
on election night involving Florida, causing voters already in line to
walk away, the press has compounded its blunders with shameful
bias by reporting the results there out of context.

   No sooner was the election over than Democrats began
hooting and hollering and getting massive press play concerning
alleged irregularities in Florida that included Palm Beach Countys
screwy butterfly ballots, designed and approved by Democrats on
the model of those used in Chicago! Yet, as the stories continue to
cascade, if this is mentioned it is done only as an afterthought and
with a discernable disdain for Republicans who point it out.

   Then theres the issue of voters who screwed up the ballots.
The way the television mavens tell it, the alleged confusion is an
outrage and Democrats have been wronged. But when Republicans
respond with the facts that in previous elections similar numbers of
ballots have been thrown out for precisely the same human errors,
it gets nary a mention, let alone explanation in context.

   Now what about Missouri? By law no dead person can be
considered for public office, yet hardly a mention has been made of
how Democrats insisted on proceeding with the election of the
deceased Mel Carnahan under a legal theory that would allow his
widow to be appointed to fill his seat. Sure, incumbent Sen. John
Ashcroft has said he wont bring a legal challenge, but there are
Republicans aplenty who are madder than hell about it. Why has
hardly a word about this cruel trickery appeared in the general
press?

   And what about the estimated 1 million voter-identification
cards mailed out to immigrants in this country in predominately
Hispanic areas (see Chicanery Roils Election 2000, p. 26.)?
Wheres the outrage by the press at this White House-sponsored
shenanigan inviting voter fraud? Its okay to provide a constant
drumbeat about the Florida mess but not to so much as mention
the voter-card scam? As nearly as we can tell, the failure to report
on the latter centers on a journalistic decision somewhere that
exposure now would have no effect on the vote count between Al
Gore and George W. Bush.

   Military personnel by the thousands also have complained that
they did not receive ballots in a timely manner and/or never got
them when requested. We suspect this would be a running news
story if there were a hint or a whiff of possibility that absentee
military ballots might favor Gore. But they dont, and hence theres
neither daily coverage of the military absentee balloting nor so
much as a sign of press outrage.

   We raise these issues not as political partisans but as
loyalists to a strange notion that the role of the press is to report
the news honestly, in context and without favor.

   Consider the polls: How many media stories created false
impressions by suggesting that Gore was leading (or Bush was
ahead) without ever pointing out that other polls gave far different
results? Whats appalling is how media bias routinely skews the
reporting of polling statistics and thus, we are told by experts,
manipulates the body politic.

   There were stories aplenty we saw in big-city newspapers and
on broadcast news that reported how the rich and powerful backed
Bush. Yet stories on Gore supporters tended always to make it
appear that, except for those crazy (but popular) actors in
Hollywood, only the poor and the downtrodden backed the vice
president.

   Then there was all of that worker support for Gore from the
unions. But it turns out that more than one-third of the rank and file
voted Republican. The tens of millions of dollars from union dues
spent to promote Gore simply were bled off by fatly paid union
bosses who often receive more than the so-called captains of
industry. But routinely the press doesnt make such distinctions.
And weve come to believe this is deliberate. For example:
Reporting on rumors about alleged Bush drug use and, lately, his
1976 drunk-driving conviction, has been steadily and loudly heard.
Yet concern about Gores illegal drug use  allegedly even while a
senator  gets no play. Neither does Gores own White House e-
mail scandal, detailed in Insight two weeks ago, not to mention
new information that clearly raises issues of lying by the vice
president and his staff (see E-Mail Paper Trail Leads to Gore,
Nov. 20).

   We long have thought the fact that the majority of Americans
eligible to vote do not cast ballots is a national scandal that reflects
poorly on the character of our country. But whats worse is having a
press which, while free, has

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[Bill Clinton says he will] go into deep therapy
after he leaves office," according to Lucinda
Franks,  It is not clear if that would be
"psycho" therapy or "massage" therapy. - Unknown

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[CTRL] You will have to kill all of us...


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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=5251

"You will have to kill all of us..."
Posted By: Esclarmonde
Date: Thursday, 9 November 2000, 11:45 a.m.
In Response To: FEMA on the Brink (Esclarmonde)
A Nation Divided
(And a message to the Enemy Camp)
By J.J. Johnson - Posted: 11.08.00
http://www.sierratimes.com/txt/arjj110800.htm
If you're wondering what that upset feeling is in your stomach,
you're not alone. In my opinion, this is the calm before the storm.
Let November 7, 2000 be a redletter day, and a black mark on
American history. The only winner of this election will be the truth;
the truth that this nation is more polarized and divided than it has
ever been. In other countries, it's at this point that the shooting
starts and the blood begins to flow in the streets. Perhaps that
explains that upset feeling in your stomach today.
This is not to be interpreted to indicate that we advocate such
actions, but if what I fear lies ahead, it's best that someone steps
forward and explains to our posterity how and why we got to this
crossroad in America. Regardless of the final result, America's
choice will remain deadlocked. There will be no negotiating, as
there is too much at stake. The party who is on the verge of losing
all power in Washington DC has a track record of ill behavior in vote
counting. There has also been a pattern for at least the last decade
of violent death and destruction that takes place when their
authority is threatened.
For what it's worth, the so-called "exit poll data" is telling the world
who is on which side in this conflict. Rural vs Urban, Young vs Old,
Black vs White, Gentile vs non-gentile, etc.
To put it simply: It's us against them.
No one wants to admit it, no one wants to say it, but that's the way
it is. According to the AP there was "... the results of the U.S.
presidential race was a lesson in democracy's messy glory - or
proof that the political system in the world's most powerful nation
might just be in need of an overhaul."
Well, to the rest of the world, the Associated Press may be right
about that "overhaul." The last major overhaul of this type cost us
about 600,000 lives back in the 19th century with primitive
weaponry. The states where many people's ancestors fought and
died for their beliefs in the Constitution led the battle of November
7, 2000 at the ballot box  showing that no matter what happens,
or what you hear on CNN, that battle is not over. In fact, the next
phase of this battle has just begun.
My prediction: This is GOING to get ugly.
Let us now candidly state these facts to the world:
We represent the side that has become the victim of "political
correctness." We are those who have been called names for
simply being who we are. We have been demonized for believing
that this nation, and the way it governs, is based on certain
principles. We are the ones who pay (by force) the majority of the
taxes in this country. We are the ones who have placed the
majority of our sons and daughters in harm's way in service of our
nation. We have been all but banned from the major media, but
they now know we exist. We watched as our basic freedoms were
being stolen from us. We fought back. We fought hard. According
to the rules that govern us, we believe we have made a major
statement to the world via the ballot box.
We have been under assault. We risk losing our right of free
expression, our right to own property, our rights of self-defense and
preservation, our right to be governed from our states rather than a
federal bureaucracy, and soon, if we do not prevail, our right to
adequate representation in our own government.
Even our history and that of our ancestors is under attack. The
democratic choice that has been made threatens to end (or at
least halt) this downward slide. Our adversaries are on the verge of
losing all the power they've held over us for the last 40 years. At
this time it appears that our adversaries, like tyrants of the past,
simply won't accept defeat and are preparing to take steps to take
this fight to the next level.
We are truly a Nation Divided.
Citizens of the world, if our side loses this battle, many of us may
not live to see what the outcome will be. We can safely predict that
your nations will soon share the same attitude about this nation
that many share today  that it is run by a tyrant, or a beast. You
will witness the military and economic power of this nation used
against you at the will of a few, not the will of the people. You will
be disarmed, disenfranchised, and taught to hate one another. You
will be forced to believe that the U.S. Government, and not our
Creator, is your caretaker and will demand complete control over
your lives. We will be vanquished.
It is for this reason, that we cannot  we shall not surrender. We
represent a people who believe in a Power Greater than Ourselves.
Today, we live with an unsettling fear. Not a fear of what our
adversaries will do, but fear of what we may

[CTRL] IS PRESIDENT CLINTON SANE? CAN WE TRUST HIM?


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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=5253

Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum
IS PRESIDENT CLINTON SANE? CAN WE TRUST HIM?
Posted By: RUMOR MILL NEWS
Date: Thursday, 9 November 2000, 1:10 p.m.
Several days ago, an RMNews Source contacted us and reminded
us that Representative Tom Campbell once called President
Clinton incapacitated and suggested he be removed using the 25th
amendment.
Representative Campbell called the President Crazy. At this
precarious moment in our history, we need to reflect on what Tom
Campbell and others have said about President Bill Clinton. If the
men who have hurled these charges are correct, what could
President Clinton be capable of doing if Vice President Gore
refuses to concede the election?
Would President Clinton refuse to step down? Would he start
some kind of crisis which would allow him to invoke martial law,
revoke the Constitution and stay President for life?
The following is the first of several articles in which well known
Clinton aides have alluded to his mental problems.
###
Representative Tom Campbell (R) from San Jose, CA resigned his
seat in the House of Representatives and declared his candidacy
for Senate. His rival was Senator Diane Feinstein, the most popular
Senator California has ever known.
Why would a Congressman resign his seat in Congress to run for a
seat he knew he could never win?
An RMNews Source told Rumor Mill News that Representative
Campbell was being punished by both the Republicans and
Democrats.
The Democrats are punishing him for insinuating that President
Clinton is mentally incapacitated and should be removed using the
25th Amendment.
Here is the story that Rumor Mill News published at the time Tom
Campbell called the President incapacitated. To set the time frame
-- this took place the day the House voted to impeach the
President. The RMNews Source said he would find the
Congressional Record from that day and sent it. Hopefully it will
arrive today.
###
Tom Campbell Calls Clinton Incapacitated
and Wants Him Removed From Office
Is Campbell Talking About the 25th Amendment?
RMNews 12-19-98 This morning Speaker of the House designate,
Bob Livingston stunned the nation by unexpectedly announcing his
resignation on the floor of the House. While the nation was still
reeling from Livingstons resignation, Representative Tom
Campbell, (R) from San Jose California, called President Clinton
"incapacitated". He said that the President has demonstrated his
incapacitation through countless examples of not being able to
understand what he has done. In other words, he cannot admit to
himself that he lied. Campbell said that there are laws in place
since 1968, which would allow Congress to remove a President
who has been deemed incapacitated.
Tom Campbell called for President Clinton to be removed due to
"incapacitation".
This sounds very much like the 25th Amendment. Was
Representative Campbell calling for the removal of President
Clinton due to mental incapacitation? Does Representative
Campbell believe President Clinton is too emotionally unstable to
be President? Is he asking Congress to remove President Clinton
by using the 25th Amendment to the Constitution?
In case you dont know what the 25th Amendment says, here it is:
Article XXV
(Ratified February 10, 1967)
Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from efficacy or
his death or resignation, the vice President shall become President.
Sec. 2 Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the vice
President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall
take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of
Congress.
Sec 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro
tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of
Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to
discharge the powers and duties shall be discharged by the vice
President as Acting President.
Sec 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the
principal officers of the executive departments or of such other
body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President
pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of
Representatives their written declaration that the President is
unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice
President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the
office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro
tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of
Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he
shall resume the power and duties of his office unless, the Vice
President and a majority of either the principal officers of the
executive department or of such other bodies as Congress may by
law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore
of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives
their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge
the powers and duties of

[CTRL] Europeans' Problem with Presidents: They're always Yanks


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Good intentions will always be pleaded for every
assumption of authority.á It is hardly too
strong to say that the Constitution was made
to guard the people against the dangers
of good intentions.á There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but they mean
to govern.á They promise to be good masters,
but they mean to be masters. --Noah Webster

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[CTRL] Primakov on US election


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http://english.pravda.ru/main/2000/11/11/853.html

 Pravda.RU:Main:More in detail

 05:03 2000-11-11
  PRIMAKOV: "US DO NOT LOOK PROPERLY IN THE
FACE OF THE WHOLE WORLD".

 In the course of his visit to the Penza region, leader of the
Fatherland-All Russia faction, former PM
 Yevgeny Primakov commented on the situation with the US
presidential elections. He announced that
 "the US used to teach Belarus, Russia and some other countries
how to organize fair democratic
 elections, but now there is a possibility to falsify results during the
recount." According to Primakov,
 "the US do not look properly in the face of the whole world".

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[CTRL] CIA Statement on Veto of Intelligence Authorization Act


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They just won't give up will they?


http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/11/cia110600.html

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 6 November 2000

   STATEMENT BY CIA SPOKESMAN BILL HARLOW
 FOLLOWING THE VETO OF THE FY 01 INTELLIGENCE
  AUTHORIZATION BILL

 The leaking of sensitive classified information is a serious
problem that has been recognized by Congress and the
Administration.

 We look forward to working with all parties to craft a new
provision that helps preserve national security while fostering the
necessary public discussion of important issues.

 Our interest all along has solely been to plug a gap in the
existing law which jeopardizes the security of the United States
and compromises our ability to protect the American people.

 Any new provision should continue to place the burden solely
on current and former U.S. officials entrusted with sensitive
information.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush's Election Hangover Photo


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On 10 Nov 2000, at 21:21, Steve Wingate wrote:

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 He looks drunk to me, or at least has a bad hangover, or perhaps
 flesh eating disease from injecting Mexican brown heroin (the latter
 is meant as humor).

 http://www.nandotimes.com/front/story/0,1108,500278519-500436586-502
 785232-0,00.html


Chronic sleep deprivation does the same thing to me.  The last
photo I saw of Gore wasn't too pretty either.  These guys have been
pushing themselves too long.


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[CTRL] (Fwd) United States of Albania?

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--- Forwarded message follows ---
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: undisclosed recipients [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:United States of Albania?

This is the most chilling thing I can ever recall reading, and
unfortunately it "rings true." It's also somewhat long (for those of
my young friends who attend public school, and therefore whose
attention spans are short g), but definitely worth the read.
Remember last month when the Russians were voting on sending
"poll
watchers" to the U.S., and folks over here thought they were just
joking, or being evil, nasty and presumptuous? Hah! I'm beginning to
suspect they simply had "advance notice." And were we not being
"evil,
nasty and presumptuous" in our intrusions into Serbia and the like?

My God!!! I admit to being a total amateur in the political scene, but
I do have an IQ higher than my hat size.  Never, in the depths of the
unConstitutional Viet Nam war or anywhere else, have I ever been
truly
ashamed of our beloved country. I am now. As an e- mail buddy of
mine
suggests, perhaps it's time to "dust off the muskets."

~Olga

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/9/162749.shtml

United States of Albania?

 Daniel McAdams
 Thursday, Nov. 9, 2000

The "people power" that has taken to the streets of Florida
today, courtesy of the Democratic Party and the Rev. Jesse
Jackson, is not so different from the mobs that have taken to the
streets of the new democracies of Central and Eastern Europe
when a
vote was being stolen. And no, they are not "defending democracy"
but
rather they are a critical force-multiplier in the cheating process
itself.

The pattern may not be familiar to the American public, but as
one who has observed elections throughout the former
communist world, including those that have ended in violence
and massive fraud, the pattern, to me, is unmistakable.

What is happening in Florida  and to a lesser degree in places
like St. Louis and elsewhere  follows a game plan that has yet
to fail: first rule is, delay delay delay. Do not let any official
results be announced. The longer you can delay, the more doubt is
cast
on the elections and the more time there is to manipulate the
results.

Second, latch on to a legitimate issue and marry it to an
illegitimate one until the original issue is completely lost. In
Florida a recount was automatically called because of a very
close race. But who now is talking about the real reason for the
recount? Not CNN, not the networks and the liberal talking
heads, not the American people. The issue has successfully
been reframed.

A group of seniors, who had received a sample ballot in
advance of the election and presumably had made their
selections, are said to have been somehow tricked into voting
for Pat Buchanan instead of Vice President Al Gore. The claim
of foul play flies in the face of reason: The ballot was designed by a
Democrat with no malice intended. It had been publicly available
before the elections. This was initially said to involve some 3,000
voters, which conveniently would have bridged the gap of George W.
Bushs 1,500-vote lead.

But this wasnt enough. By the time the fraudsters had gotten
Americas attention yesterday with this spurious claim, the
stakes were raised even higher. Some 19,000 ballots were said
to have been invalidated in Palm Beach County because there
were multiple votes for president. This was blamed on the
"confusing" ballot. The rules are simple, though: if while voting a
voter makes a mistake, he may request a new ballot and correct that
mistake. Florida voters get up to three tries to get their voting
right. Seems fair. Several individuals who took advantage of this
"second chance" were interviewed on television.

With chaos successfully reigning, the accusations and claims
have grown exponentially. Yesterday a Democratic Party official
was interviewed on CNN claiming "thousands" of examples of
"voter intimidation," where many victims were African-American.
She was unable to provide a single verified example, but no
matter. The goal is merely to take advantage of the delay to
introduce new factors into the equation. No longer was this
about a close race, but about racial discrimination. This opens
the door for the federalization of the Florida election, which
appears to already have begun.

The next rule in the vote fraud game as I have witnessed it in the
former communist world is, if you cannot overturn the election results
the next best thing is to delegitimize the election.

Americans will no doubt be shocked to find themselves
compared to Albanians, but the 2000 presidential election here
is shockingly similar to that in Albania in 1996. There, the former
Communist Party pulled out of the elections just before the polls
closed, claiming massive vote fraud

[CTRL] (Fwd) PROOF OF VOTE FRAUD!


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There was a report a few minutes ago that the CNN feed in the Gulf
area said all the overseas absentee ballots were stolen from
Pensacola, Fla p.o.  Did anyone see this in the U.S. feed?

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Date sent:  Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:18 -0800
To: undisclosed recipients [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:PROOF OF VOTE FRAUD!

This was posted to a list I'm on, and is forwarded with permission.
It's a long, very worthwhile read, and I hope you'll pass it along to
anyone who might be interested.

~Olga

Ref:  15,000 Bush votes were stolen in Palm Beach, FL.   15,000
Dole
and Perot votes were stolen in 1996 *, no wonder they knew how to
do
it!

*9 Nov, 2000 CNN; Jim Smith, Former Florida Secretary of State;
WSJ, 11-10-2000)

The news media is focused on the Democratic Party spin that
voters
were "confused" in Palm Beach, FL.  They are ignoring the 15,000
BUSH
and 3,400 Buchanan votes were stolen by fraud in these 19,000
ballots.

There is explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in
Palm Beach FL. These ballots show Democratic voter fraudNOT
Republican fraud or "voter error."   Consider these "unusual" ballot
problems in Palm Beach, FL - every one of them adds more Gore
votes,
and removed Republican and Reform party votes.

---...---

The voter fraud in the most heavily Democratic precincts Palm
Beach
County is so bad that Democratic officials are claiming that over 26
people per minute "were confused" and voted twice for President!
This
means that more voters were being handed new ballots per minute
than
new voters were being signed in. (19,200 "double punched"
Democratic
ballots divided by 12 hours, there are approximately 100 precincts
in
Palm Beach County.  The errors are concentrated in only a few of
these
of these precincts, ALL predominately democratic and ALL with
Democratic voter officials.)

---...---

ONLY in Palm Beach FL were 15,000 ballots "double punched" in
the 1996
election.  (This is unique among the entire nation!  It is an error
rate TEN TIMES larger than reported in ANY other district in the
nation using that kind of ballot!)

ONLY in Palm Beach (and almost ONLY heavily Democratic
precincts) were
19,200 ballots rejected in 2000 for double punching(This is a
4.4%
error rate overall; in the rest of Florida there is less than 1/2 of
ONE percent "double punch" error rate!  (Unofficially, this error rate
was 15% in predominately Afro-American precincts, and 10% in
precincts
with large numbers of Jewish retirees.)  In strongly Republican
precincts, the error rate was the "usual" 1/2 of one percent.)

ONLY in Palm Beach did this "double punch" error happen ONLY
in the
Gore-Bush-Buchanan selection.  (In a truly random "error,"  the
mistakes happen in every race, all at about the same rate.   In Palm
Beach, the massive errors (over 19,000) ONLY happened in the
Presidential race.)

ONLY in Palm Beach has the news media complained about
"massive"
ballot confusion.  In the 43 counties in Missouri, also mostly
Democratic voters, which use the same kind of ballot, there are NO
complaints about "confused voters" at all.  (St Louis Post Dispatch,
Nov 8, 2000)  Therefore, ONLY in Palm Beach FL do the
Democrats have
to "explain" a massive number of incorrect votes.

ONLY in Palm Beach did Gore GAIN 750 votes in a recount.  In 64
out of
67 counties in FL, the average gain was 5-7 votes, and the
"changes"
were equally split between ALL the candidates, in proportion to the
original number of votes.  This means that Palm Beach FL had an
error
rate in favor of Gore more than 120 TIMES greater than any other
county,  (Two other heavily Democratic "inner city" counties (Flagler
and Pinellas) had changes greater than 400 votes.)  In a statistically
valid recount, half of the errors would favor Bush, and half favor
Gore.  This extreme change from the normal in only three counties
shows massive "favoritism" towards Gore in those three counties.)

In Palm Beach Gore got more votes than there are registered
Democrats.  (Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections:
registered
Democrats = 296,122 while Gore voters = 296.696.)

ONLY in Palm Beach did Bush receive LESS than 65% of the
registered
Republican voters.  (Registered Republicans = 231,626 while Bush
voters = 152,954.)  In every other county in FL Bush received MORE
votes than there were registered Republicans.  In the rest of the
nation, poll results show more than 90% of registered Republicans
actively supported the Republican candidate. (Also, unique in the
entire state, the percentage of Republican voters COUNTED as voting in
Palm Beach was much less than normal, despite the pre-election
attention to Florida as a critical state; and massive Republican
get-out-the-vote campaigns.)

ONLY in Palm Beach did Buchanan get less than HALF the of votes he
received before in 1996.  His losses in that county in 2000 were

Re: [CTRL] Steal Something Day!


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 Better yet, once a week or so do what I do and have a "lets eat for
 free at the supermarket" day. Just go into that corporate cash-cow,
 get the best salami sticks from the deli, olives, kabana, some cheese
 and pate (to taste), a few chocolate bars etc. and a container of
 fruit juice or whatever. As you wander around looking at the


Ahh, come on - forget the penny ante stuff.  Show us what you're
made of - steal a police cruiser!
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choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable
human, individual, civil, and Constitutional
right - subject neither to the democratic process
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Re: [CTRL] AP: Ballot designer, under fire, hires lawyer and hides out


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How predictable.  A woman takes the blame again.

On 11 Nov 2000, at 20:09, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:


 Ballot designer, under fire, hires lawyer and hides out

 By ALLEN G. BREED
 ASSOCIATED PRESS
 WEST PALM BEACH, FLA.

 Theresa LePore might be the most reviled Democrat in the country.

 LePore is the Palm Beach County supervisor of elections who
 designed the ballot that some Democrats say was so confusing it
 may have cost Al Gore the election.

 More than 19,000 of the ballots were disqualified Tuesday, mostly
 because people voted for two candidates in the presidential race.
 Others say they mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan instead of Gore.

 Now, LePore has been hit with voter lawsuits.  A Democratic state
 lawmaker said he plans to organize a petition drive to force her from
 her elective office.  And demonstrators and others have denounced her.

 Robert Montgomery Jr., a lawyer who defended two former
 Salvadoran generals cleared of responsibility in a Miami
 courtroom last week for the 1980 murders of four American church
 women, has been hired by LePore to represent her in the numerous
 lawsuits.

 LePore, 45, has said she sent the ballot to dozens of candidates
 and others before the election and heard no complaints.  She said she
 designed the ballot to make the print easier to read for senior
 citizens -- one of the groups most incensed by the election.

 She has gone into semi-seclusion since the controversy erupted.

 Given her history, friends said it is amazing that LePore should
 be caught up in such a maelstrom.

 The daughter of a West Palm Beach city commissioner, LePore is a
 staunch Democrat.

 She took an after-school job as a clerk in the county elections
 office in 1971 at age 16, before she was even old enough to vote.
 From there, she advanced to secretary to the assistant elections
 supervisor, then to supervisor in 1995.

 ``She has done nothing but work for that county,'' said Mary
 Marsh, LePore's younger sister.  ``I think the only time that
 she's not working is when she's sleeping.''


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them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits
of industry and improvement, and shall not take
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This is the sum of good government.
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[CTRL] Fw: Florida Military Votes Blocked!!

2000-11-10 Thread K

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> > FLORIDA MILITARY VOTES BLOCKED > > Reports of Blocked Military Votes Still Coming In >  -- and some of them live in Florida > > http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com > > from Angel Shamaya > Director, KeepAndBearArms.com > 9 November 2000 > 12:50, PST > > KeepAndBearArms.com --  We have more confirmed > reports of U.S. servicemen and women being prevented > from voting. Absentee ballots missing or arriving > too late is a larger problem than we'd even have > guessed, and we are still receiving new reports as > the day wears on.  Here are the latest reports: > > Okinawa -- another confirmed report of no ballot > having been provided. In her own words: > >"I am living on Okinawa. I was active duty until >Sep 02-00, and I did ask my unit rep to sign me >up to vote -- but heard nothing after that. I >did not receive a ballot at all. Yes, I would >have voted for Gov. Bush." > > We also have our first confirmed report from a resident > of Florida stationed in America whose ballot didn't > arrive until the day before the election. He requested > his absentee ballot in September and placed a second > request in October. According to him: > >"I received my Ballot the day after the election. >My parents requested my ballot in September, but >it was sent to the wrong address. I re-requested >a ballot in late October. I live in Florida, and >I would have voted for Bush." > > He's not the only soldier who resides in Florida and > didn't receive a ballot -- and would have thrown a > vote to Governor Bush. This just came in: > >"I am a state resident of Florida. In my 16 years >in the military I have never NOT received a ballot... >until this year. And yes, I would most definitely >have voted for Bush." > > And so it goes. We have a confirmed report in from a > couple whose home state is Oregon. She received her > ballot, and he didn't. > > Some military personnel did receive their ballots > in time to vote, of course. From our email today: > >"I am from the state of Illinois, and requested >my ballot in September, I received my ballot on >November 6th 2000, the ballot needed to be returned >by 2 pm on the 7th. I did send my ballot in, and >I did vote for BUSH!!" > > and > >"I am a soldier stationed in the US at Carlisle >Barracks in Pennsylvania, away from my voting district. >Everyone at Carlisle Barracks was provided all forms, >etc months in advance.  I can tell you  that everyone >here was encouraged to vote." > > We are elated to know that some military personnel did > get to vote. But the absence of ballots for others is > not only puzzling, it is an outrage.  How those who > received their ballots on the 7th were to accomplish > the stated deadline is a mystery. Who helped orchestrate > this travesty is no mystery at all. > > Related Articles Below are All linked at > http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com > > First Report from Okinawa Showing > Missing Military Absentee Ballots > http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.a

[CTRL] Cigarettes Distributed For Gore Vote

2000-11-05 Thread K


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http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/mil/election2000/itsyourvote/
stories/-20001105-134550.html

Cigarettes Distributed For Gore Vote
Homeless Voters Given Ride, Cigarettes
MILWAUKEE, Updated 7:00 p.m. CST November 5, 2000--
Campaign volunteers for the Democratic Presidential campaign
were discovered distributing cigarettes to homeless voters after the
volunteers had recruited the homeless specifically for their vote
Saturday.

  Gore Campaigners Distribute Cigarettes


WISN 12 News caught workers for Vice President Al Gore's
campaign giving packs of cigarettes to homeless voters that they
had transported to cast absentee ballots.

GORE'S CAMPAIGN 2000

"We've been pretty busy, going to the shelters," campaign
volunteer Connie Milstein said. Milstein volunteers for the Gore
campaign in New York and came to Milwaukee to help get out the
vote.
"They had a couple vans, and said they'd give us a ride. So I took a
ride," George Scharf said. Scharf is a homeless voter who said he
had planned to vote for Gore anyway, and that voters weren't told
about the free cigarettes till after they were at the polls.
"They didn't mention that until we got down there anyway," he said.

However, a Milwaukee Rescue Mission employee told WISN 12
News that he had to ask democratic campaign volunteers to leave
the property after he caught them trying to bribe potential voters
with packs of cigarettes.
Although, one voter said that he did not feel like he was bribed for
his vote.
"They just came and asked us to go and vote," Bob Socha said.
Socha also said that he enjoys voting and was already planning to
vote for Gore.
A representative from the Milwaukee County Bush campaign said
that the tactics of the Gore campaigners raises a few questions.
"Even aside from the law itself, I just think most people on a gut
check level would say that's wrong," Rep. Scott Walker (R - 14th
District) said. "One has to question if they were going to be voting
anyway, one has to question why would the campaign, the Gore
campaign, be giving anything out, other than a ride to vote. "
After viewing WISN 12's video tape, a local representative of the
Gore campaign issued a response to the democratic campaigners
who distributed the cigarettes.
"This kind of activity described by Channel 12 is not the kind of
help we ask for and it's the kind of help we flat-out reject. These
volunteers were from out of state, acting on their own and this was
not part of any official Democratic 'get out the vote' activity in
Wisconsin. They have left the state and we will not invite them to
return," wrote Susan Lagana, a spokeswoman for the Democratic
Coordinated Campaign.
WISN 12's Jason DeRusha will have new information on how one
area Republican is pursuing Saturday's actions by the Democratic
volunteers on 12 News At 10:00.
Copyright 2000 by TheMilwaukeeChannel.com. All rights reserved.



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criminals.  The criminals want your money.  The
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[CTRL] US report urges Arafat to use torture for peace

2000-11-05 Thread K


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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Middle_East/2000-
11/ruthless061100.shtml

US report urges Arafat to use torture for peace
An influential think-tank advises Palestinian Authority to ruthlessly
repress militant elements without regard for basic human rights
By Robert Fisk in Gaza
6 November 2000
Palestinian leaders have been shocked to read an American think-
tank report which urges them to act "ruthlessly" against opponents
of the Oslo agreement  even if this involves "excessive force",
trials without due process of law and "interrogation methods that
border on psychological and/or physical torture."
A draft copy of the report by the influential Centre for Strategic and
International Studies (CSIS), which has close links with the United
States government, has been published on the internet and
circulated among dozens of members of the Palestinian Authority
in Gaza, including Yasser Arafat's most senior intelligence
officers.
The report says that even if peace follows the "Second Intifada",
"both sides [Palestinian and Israeli] will be forced to conduct
aggressive [sic] security operations for years to come" which "can
have a high price tag in terms of human rights." By way of
comparison, it adds that British security forces in Northern Ireland
"balanced" what it calls "effective security" with human rights 
even though "the British used excessive force, abused human
rights, and used extreme interrogation methods and torture."
Amnesty International and other human rights groups have
frequently condemned the use of arbitrary false arrest, detention
and torture by Arafat's "muhabarrat" security apparatus, pointing
out that CIA operatives appear to have been complicit in these
abuses.  Far from denouncing these practices, however, the draft
CSIS report appears to encourage their use, stating that "such
measures also tend to work".
The document is dated 18 October and bears the name of Anthony
H Cordesman  a former national security assistant to failed
Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain  who is
now holder of the Arleigh A Burke Chair in Strategy at the CSIS,
named after the former Chief of US Naval Operations. His
document is heavily referenced to CIA, State Department and
Israeli sources and, according to Palestinian officials here, has
been circulated within the US and Israeli governments.
Entitled "Peace and War:  Israel versus the Palestinians", it
recounts the turbulent history of Israeli-Palestinian relations since
the 1993 Oslo agreement although its bias is obvious from the
frequent use of "terrorist" to describe violent Arab groups and the
almost ubiquitous use of "extremist" in reference to their violent
Israeli opposite numbers.
It excuses the use of Israeli live bullets against stone-throwers,
adding that CS gas and rubber bullets are often "not effective in
stopping large groups" and that "troops cannot let mobs armed
with stones and Molotov cocktails close on their positions, or rely
on the riot control gear used in civil disobedience."
In a section headed "The Need for Palestinian Authority
Ruthlessness and Efficiency", it states "there will be no future
peace, or stable peace process, if the Palestinian security forces
do not act ruthlessly and effectively. They must react very quickly
and decisively in dealing with terrorism and violence if they are to
preserve the momentum of Israeli withdrawal, the expansion of
Palestinian control, and the peace process. They must halt civil
violence even if this sometimes means using excessive force by
the standards of Western police forces. They must be able to halt
terrorist and paramilitary action by Hamas and Islamic Jihad even if
this means interrogations, detentions and trials that are too rapid
and lack due process. If they do not, the net cost to both peace
and the human rights of most Palestinians will be devastating."
The report says that permission must be obtained for any
publication of the contents, but copies have now been circulated
throughout the Palestinian Authority, including the offices of
Mohamed Dahalan and Jibril Rajoub, respectively heads of Arafat's
"Preventative Security" in Gaza and Ramallah. Both Dahalan and
Rajoub were sent to Langley, Virginia, for what was called "human
rights training" by US government intelligence services.
Although it condemns "Israeli terrorism"  a phrase used only once
and in reference to Jewish settlers' groups  the document
concludes with chilling advice to both Palestinians and Israelis.
"Every counter-terrorist force that has ever succeeded has had to
act decisively and sometimes violently," it says.
"Effective counter-terrorism relies on interrogation methods that
border on psychological and/or physical torture, arrests and
detentions that are 'arbitrary' by the standards of civil law, break-ins
and intelligence operations that violate the normal rights of privacy,
levels of violence in making arrests that are unacceptable in civil
cases, and

[CTRL] CA Thought Crime Database

2000-11-04 Thread K

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California Creates First Hate Crime Database Lets Cops Track Violence Against Minorities, Women
June 4, 2000
By Randy Dotinga
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (APBnews.com) -- State officials are putting the finishing touches on the nation's first hate crime computer database, which will help police track criminals who are motivated by prejudice.
The statewide database, which is scheduled to be up and running by summer's end, will offer an unprecedented amount of information to law enforcement, said Sandra Michioku, spokeswoman for the state attorney general's office.
Currently, there is no centralized statewide repository of information about hate crimes. A sheriff's deputy investigating a hate crime in Northern California may have no idea that a similar incident occurred in San Diego, Michioku said.
The database will change that, she said. It will include information about the crimes committed, the suspects and other information such as vehicles spotted at the scene of an attack.
"You might have information on a firebombing, such as a description of what kind of accelerant was used," Michioku said.
Sophisticated suspect sketches
Police officers will be able to create high- tech suspect lineups by filling a computer screen with various mug shots from the database.
California already has a computer database that provides information on stolen cars, criminal records and wanted suspects. But the hate crimes database will be the most elaborate of its kind in the state, Michioku said.
The database will be called HATE -- Hate crime Analysis Tracking Evaluation.
California allows prosecutors to file extra charges in crimes that target victims because of their race, national origin, religion, gender, disability or sexual orientation. The gender provision also covers transsexuals.
Matching hate groups' tech savvy
Hector Jimenez, a San Diego assistant district attorney who runs a hate crime unit, said the database would help law enforcement match the technological expertise of hate groups.
"Those people who advocate that others commit crimes are technologically savvy," he said. "It's time for us in law enforcement to use technology in our efforts to combat intolerance."
Virginia Black, California's first elected female sheriff, is also a fan of the database. She is sheriff of Northern California's Yuba County. "As we in law enforcement know, hate crimes are not perpetuated by people who live next door all the time," she said. "[There] are professional hate crime perpetrators who travel from city to city and site to site across the United States."
The database will allow authorities easy access to information about similar crimes, Black said.
"Currently, if we had a hate crime, we might put out a statewide or nationwide teletype to all law enforcement agencies asking for others who had similar incidents. It's just a much slower, more cumbersome journey to the same point," she said.
High-profile cases
Yuba County, with a population of about 58,000, had only one reported hate crime last year. But Black suspects that more occurred but were not reported.
California has been hit by several high- profile hate crimes in recent years:
Two white supremacist brothers stand accused of killing a gay couple in Northern California. The brothers are awaiting trial. A San Diego man was convicted this year of committing gender-based hate crimes in connection with his random, brutalassaults on five women, including the daughter of the city's police chief. He received a six-year sentence for that attack and several others. In a case that attracted national attention, five white men attacked a black man outside a Memorial Day party two years ago in Santee, a suburb of San Diego. The victim was left paralyzed. One attacker received a 9-year sentence while the other four, who had a lesser involvement, received one-year terms. Last July, someone threw a tear-gas grenade into the crowd at San Diego's annual gay and lesbian pride parade. Dozens of spectators were gassed, as was a marching contingent of parents and young children. No one has been arrested in the case.
In 1998, according to state statistics, 1,750 hate crimes were reported. Of those, 1,134 were motivated by race, 226 by religion and 387 by sexual orientation.
Within those categories, the largest number of attacks came against blacks, Jews and gay men. In three other cases, victims were attacked because of their disability.
The state later added gender to its hate crime statutes. --

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Taking my gun away because I might shoot someone
is like cutting my tongue out because I might
yell `Fire!' in a crowded theater.
-- Peter Venetoklis

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

2000-11-03 Thread K


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Let's see now...

Did Bush drive his car off a bridge while drunk?

Did a female passenger drown?

Did he fail to recue her?

Since none of these things happened, Bush obviously is totally
worthless.
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[CTRL] Fwd: Release: Computer Crime

2000-11-03 Thread K


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New international cybersnooping treaty
is all-out attack on privacy, says Browne

WASHINGTON, DC -- A new international computer-crime
treaty the U.S. government expects to sign this year is an "all-out
attack on computer privacy" and should be rejected, Libertarian
presidential candidate Harry Browne said today.

"This treaty doesn't attack crime," he said. "Instead, it
attacks privacy, the Fifth Amendment, and certain kinds of
software -- while giving the government awesome new powers to
cybersnoop on innocent Americans."

The so-called "Draft Convention On Cybercrime" -- the first
international computer crime agreement -- is currently being
negotiated by the United States and the 41-nation Council of
Europe.

The treaty, which went through 19 drafts before the Justice
Department revealed its existence earlier this year, could be
finalized as soon as December, reported Wired.com.

However, the U.S. Senate, which must approve all
international treaties, should reject it outright, said Browne.

"This treaty is just the latest example of politicians trying
to prove they are tough on crime," he said. "As usual, they want to
give bureaucrats and law enforcement new powers to appear to be
fighting crime. And, as usual, it is innocent Americans who will bear
the brunt of these new police powers."

For example, the treaty would:

* Give law enforcement the power to order Americans to
reveal a computer password or encryption key -- in apparent
violation of the Fifth Amendment's protection against self-
incrimination.

* Require Internet service providers (ISPs) to conduct real-
time surveillance of customers' e-mail messages, at government
request. In July, the FBI admitted it had already created a
cybersnooping device code-named "Carnivore" that could scan
millions of e-mails a second.

* Effectively abolish anonymous e-mail by requiring "remailer"
websites (which automatically distribute messages after stripping
out the sender's name and return address) to collect information
about their users.

* Require ISPs to store at least 40 days worth of customer
data, including e-mails, chat-room transcripts, and website visits,
for possible review by the government.

* Make illegal certain kinds of common software -- including
network security utilities used by computer technicians -- on the
grounds that it could be criminally misused by hackers.

Although some of those provisions may be dropped in
negotiations, Justice Department officials have privately said it is
too late to make "major" changes to the treaty, according to the
Wall Street Journal.

That's why the U.S. Senate should reject the entire document,
said Browne.

"This treaty was negotiated in secret, with the approval of
 the same politicians who supported the Communications Decency
Act, Know Your Customer, anti-encryption laws, the FBI's
Carnivore system, the Clipper Chip, and innumerable other attacks
on your privacy," he said.  "And this treaty may be even worse than
those previous anti-privacy initiatives because it globalizes the
government's power to spy on you.

"If the U.S. Senate cares about privacy, the civil liberties
guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, and the Constitutional limitations
on government, it will unanimously reject this Draft Convention On
Cybercrime."

But for individual Americans concerned about privacy, the
problem is bigger than this one treaty, said Browne.

"Unfortunately, stopping this treaty won't stop the relentless
attacks on your civil liberties, because the same Republican and
Democratic politicians will remain in power," he said. "Neither of
those parties is dedicated to preserving an airtight individual right
to privacy. Only the Libertarian Party is."

That's why your vote on November 7 may be the most powerful
pro-privacy statement you can make, said Browne.

"Libertarians understand that we can't stop government
snooping by fighting every new intrusion on your privacy," he said.
"Our opponents will win too many of those battles, and government
will get more and more intrusive.

"Instead, we must fight to take completely away from
government the power to enter any area of your life for which it has
no explicit Constitutional authority. And the only way to
accomplish that is by voting

[CTRL] Vote-Swap Web Sites Shut Down

2000-11-01 Thread K


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http://www.nydailynews.com/2000-11-
01/News_and_Views/Express_Edition/a-86781.asp



Vote-Swap Web Sites
c
By J.K. DINEEN
Daily News Express
The plug is being pulled on the Great Presidential Swap of 2000. At
least three Internet sites that arranged vote trading between
backers of Al Gore and Green Party presidential candidate Ralph
Nader have closed following complaints.
The sites sought to have Nader supporters in the battleground
states vote for the vice president. In exchange, Democrats would
agree to cast a ballot for Nader in states considered a cakewalk for
Texas Gov. George W. Bush.
The Green Party needs 5% of the popular vote to qualify for federal
funding in 2004.
California elections officials contacted Jim Cody, the Los Angeles
Web site operator who set up www.voteswap2000.com, and
informed him he was violating state law by brokering the exchange
of votes.
"As soon as we were informed we shut the thing down," Cody said.
In the site's short life, more than 5,000 matches were arranged, he
added. After Cody closed his site, two other trading sites shut
down on their own.
Meanwhile, officials in at least four states are investigating vote-
auction.com, a controversial European Web site claiming to be
buying and selling votes in the U.S. presidential election, but proof
that the organization is doing anything  legal or not  has yet to
surface.
Regardless, officials in at least four states are investigating vote-
auction.com.
Hans Bernhard of Vienna, Austria, runs the Web site which
purports to "satire" a c..o.u...rrupt political system driven by soft
money.
Bernhard bought the site from James Baumgartner, a student at
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., who established it
as a master's thesis.
"Our candidates are for sale, and by selling themselves they are
treating the election as a commodity," Baumgartner said. "The
next step is to treat votes like commodities."
Buying and selling votes is forbidden by federal and state laws.
Original Publication Date: 11/1/00


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[CTRL] Fwd: Victory over secret searches bill!

2000-10-27 Thread K

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Privacy News Update: House strips out language
allowing police to issue "administrative subpoenas"
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* DefendYourPrivacy supporters achieve big win on Capitol Hill

Earlier this week we asked for your help in killing a proposal
contained in The Presidential Threat Protection Act (HR 3048) that
would have given police broad new powers to issue "administrative
subpoenas."

Almost immediately, Capitol Hill offices were flooded with
thousands of angry phone calls from privacy advocates around the
country. On Wednesday afternoon, the offending provisions were
gutted
from the bill.

The overall bill passed, but without giving the government new
power to subpoena your electronic records -- or force third parties to
turn over that information.

Thank you for your help, and please stay posted for further
privacy updates.

Sincerely,

Steve Dasbach
National Director
Libertarian Party

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[CTRL] The FBI's alarming crime spree

2000-10-26 Thread K


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Libertarian Party News
October 2000
Page 12

A new report says that crimes and misconduct by FBI agents
jumped 18% over the last year, while crime rates in general are
falling.  Which makes Libertarians wonder:  Could we reduce crime
by abolishing the FBI?

"Ordinary Americans are committing fewer crimes - while FBI
agents appear to be going on a crime spree," said Steve Dasbach.
"Is the FBI the last bastion of organized crime in America?"

According to Federal Bureau of Investigation reports, a record 538
misconduct investigations were launched against FBI agents and
employees last year- an 18% increase over the previous year.
Other FBI employees were investigated for crimes such as credit
card theft, shoplifting, and eluding a police officer.

Meanwhile, the violent crime rate in American dropped another
10.4% last year - falling to a 26 year low.

"This stark contrast raises the question:  Does the FBI cause more
crime than it prevents and solves?" said Dasbach.  "And would
America be a safer place if we eliminated the FBI?"

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...a strict observance of the written laws is
doubtless ONE of the high duties of a good
citizen, but it is not THE HIGHEST. The laws of
necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our
country when in danger, are of higher obligation.
To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence
to written law, would be to lose the law itself,
with life, liberty, property and all those who
are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly
sacrificing the end to the means.
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[CTRL] Jimmy Carter Excommunicates Himself

2000-10-24 Thread K


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Return to Sender. You must be morons to send me
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[CTRL] Fwd: Release: More Guns, Less Crime

2000-10-23 Thread K


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Shocking study: 25 million more guns
helped produce a 40% drop in crime

WASHINGTON, DC -- Gun-related crime has plunged 40% in
recent
years while the number of guns in circulation has reached an all-
time
high, according to a new study by the U.S. Department of Justice --
and that's terrible news for supporters of gun control, Libertarians
say.

"The message is clear: More guns equal less crime," said
Harry

Browne, the Libertarian Party's presidential candidate. "The biggest
threat to your safety isn't guns; it's politicians who want to
restrict gun ownership.

"That's why we need to do everything we can to keep
dangerous
gun laws out of the hands of politicians like Al Gore and George W.
Bush."

Data released last week by the FBI shows that gunshot
wounds
inflicted during crimes dropped to 39,400 from 64,100 nationwide
between 1992 and 1997 -- a decrease of 40%.

But during the same five years, the number of guns in America
surged to 230 million from 205 million, according to the National
Association of Federally Licensed Firearms Dealers.

"Even street thugs understand what gun-banning politicians
don't: Guns deter crime," Browne said. "Americans went on a gun-
buying
binge from 1992 to 1997, purchasing 11 million new handguns and
14
million new rifles and shotguns -- and crime continued to decline.

"Imagine how much further crime would fall if politicians made

it easier for more law-abiding citizens to buy guns by repealing
many
of the 20,000 gun laws currently on the books."

One immediate target for repeal: State laws preventing
Americans from carrying concealed weapons.

"The three most violent cities in America -- New York,
Chicago,
and Los Angeles -- all have something in common: Gun control," Browne
said. "According to the FBI figures, these three cities led the nation
in murder, armed robbery, and assault. And no wonder. In those cities,
it's illegal to carry a concealed weapon. Democrats and Republicans
who refuse to repeal these laws are painting a target on the backs of
innocent Americans."

Browne conceded that other factors -- such as demographic
changes, longer prison terms, and an improved economy -- may have
played a role in the drop in crime rates.

"But a dramatic increase in the number of guns didn't cause an

increase in crime -- which is what politicians routinely claim when
they spout off about the so-called need to reduce easy access to
guns," he said. "In fact, giving ordinary Americans easy access to
guns is apparently what criminals fear most."

Another shocking truth about gun control laws, Browne said,
is

that even politicians don't favor them -- for themselves.

"Visit the Capitol building in Washington, DC, and notice how
many guards are carrying guns," he said. "Politicians say you have
to
be disarmed to make America safer, but they don't disarm
government
employees. Senators and Congressmen may have a compelling
need to
defend themselves, but is it really more compelling than your need
to
defend your home and your family against criminals?

"Of course not. That's why if I'm elected president I will
immediately sign an executive order disarming every single guard
on
Capitol Hill -- until Congress fully restores your right to carry a
gun."

During the presidential debates, both Bush and Gore
emphasized

their support for background checks, taxpayer-financed trigger
locks,
and enforcing current gun laws, noted Browne.

"Gore and Bush are both promoting the dangerous utopian
idea
that criminals will suddenly decide to follow whatever laws they
manage to pass," he said.

"But more laws are not the answer. The best solution is to
repeal every existing gun control law on the books. The number of
guns
in the hands of criminals will not change, but more Americans
would
recover the right to defend themselves -- which will probably inspire
many more criminals to seek a safer line of work."


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[CTRL] Hastert Shelves Genocide Measure


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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001020/wl/us_turkey_armenia_2
.html

Friday October 20  9:35 AM ET
Hastert Shelves Genocide Measure
By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s
intercession scuttled a
House resolution that would have labelled
a nearly century-old mass killing of Armenians in Turkey as
genocide.
House Speaker Dennis Hastert shelved the measure Thursday -
just hours before a scheduled House vote - after a letter arrived
from Clinton cautioning that it could affect national security.
Clinton said a vote on the resolution ``could have far-reaching
negative consequences for the United States.''
``The president believes that passage of this resolution may
adversely impact the situation in the Middle East and risk the lives
of Americans,'' Hastert, R-Ill., said in a statement. ``Every patriotic
American should heed the president's request.''
After the decision, Turkish Foreign Minister Ismail Cem told private
TV news channel: ``It is the correction of an error, it is the
prevention of a situation which would have overshadowed Turkish-
American relations.''
Armenians say 1.5 million of their people were slaughtered as part
of the Ottoman Empire's campaign to force them out of eastern
Turkey between 1915 and 1923.
Turkey, a key U.S. military ally and NATO (news - web sites)
member, says the death count is inflated and that Armenians were
killed or displaced as the Ottoman Empire tried to quell civil unrest.
The Ottoman Empire became Turkey in 1923.
Turkish officials have said U.S. adoption of the resolution could
harm the close relationship between the two nations. Some
repercussions already have been felt since the House International
Relations Committee approved the resolution earlier this month:
-Turkish legislators threatened not to renew the mandate for U.S.
forces patrolling northern Iraq.
-Turkey's top general, Huseyin Kivrikoglu, cancelled a trip to the
United States to meet with Army Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
-Turkey stopped issuing tourist visas to Armenians trying to cross
the border between the countries.
The United States uses the Incirlik air base in southern Turkey to
patrol the no-fly zone in northern Iraq, and Turkish President Ahmet
Necdet Sezer has called Clinton to express concern over the
measure.
``I think it's outrageous that the Clinton administration has bowed
to these threats from Turkey. ... It sets a very dangerous
precedent,'' said Ross Vartian, executive director of the Armenian
Assembly of America.
Heightened tensions in the Middle East over the terrorist bombing
in Yemen of the USS Cole, in which 17 sailors were killed,and
violent clashes between Israelis and Palestinians have made the
situation even more sensitive.
Clinton's letter urged the speaker ``in the strongest possible terms''
not to bring the legislation to the floor. He cited America's interest
in containing Saddam Hussein, working for peace and stability in
the Middle East, stabilizing the Balkans, and other concerns.
American interests could be harmed if the measure were brought to
a vote, the president said.
Though nonbinding, the measure would have put the House on
record as siding with the Armenians in the long-running dispute.
House Republicans had advanced the bill toward the floor in large
measure to help GOP Rep. Jim Rogan, whose district's voters are
nearly 8 percent of Armenian ethnicity, in his difficult re-election
contest after serving as a House manager in Clinton's
impeachment.
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[CTRL] Genuine revolution stronger than globalist machinations?


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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001021_xex_yugo
slavias_.shtml

A NATION REBORN
Yugoslavia's
rebirth pains
Genuine revolution stronger
than globalist machinations?

Editor's note:  Reporter Aleksandar Pavic has been in Belgrade
covering Yugoslavia's historic election and its dramatic aftermath
for WorldNetDaily.com.
By Aleksandar Pavic
© 2000, WorldNetDaily.com, Inc
.
BELGRADE, Yugoslavia -- These days, Serbia seems to be the
land of symbols.

Fallen symbols like former president Slobodan Milosevic, whose
convincing election loss has initiated a collapse within the ranks of
an entire power structure that seemed to many as invincible only a
few weeks ago.

Or resurrected symbols, like Crown Prince Alexander
Karadjordjevic, who just completed a five-day visit to his liberated
homeland.

"I have been a refugee for 55 years and I don't wish to be one any
longer," were his parting words, marking his intention to soon
resettle in the country from which his father, King Peter II of
Yugoslavia, was exiled by the German invasion of 1941 -- and to
which he was barred from returning by the new communist regime
that was installed in 1945 with the "realpolitik" backing of the
Allies.

To the almost one million refugees from the wars in Croatia, Bosnia
and Kosovo that have found shelter over the past 10 years in this
country of under 10 million, the symbolism of his eventual return
would perhaps be just as tangible as it has been to the tens of
thousands that have come out to greet him at each stop of his visit
to the Serbian heartland.  The people not only cheered -- they
wept.  Newly regained freedom seemed to have been reconfirmed
in the form of a living embodiment.

Then there is the posthumous symbol of Jovan Ducic, perhaps the
greatest Serbian poet of the 20th century, whose remains arrived at
Belgrade Airport on Friday after 57 years in exile.  The poet and
prewar diplomat had also been barred from returning to Yugoslavia
after the war and later died in Gary, Indiana.  Now his coffin is
headed back to his birthplace in Trebinje, Bosnia, which has in the
meantime become part of the newfangled state of Bosnia-
Herzegovina.

The new Yugoslav president, Dr. Vojislav Kostunica, himself the
symbol of a new beginning but also a man aware of the importance
of symbols, has announced his intention of attending the interment
ceremony in Trebinje on Oct. 21.  Accordingly, he has informed the
Foreign Ministry of Bosnia and Herzegovina of his intention --
underlining the fact that this would be a strictly private visit, born
out of "patriotic and personal duty."

However, for representatives of the Bosnian government, the
symbolism of Kostunica's visit is taking on negative connotations.
As Jadranko Prlic, the Bosnian foreign minister pointed out in his
reply to Kostunica's letter of intention, the Bosnian government was
hoping that the first visit of the new Yugoslav president would be of
an official character, as a sign of good will to lay down the path to
full mutual diplomatic recognition of the two states.

Kostunica's move is being interpreted less as a patriotic gesture
and more as a sign of support to the Serbs in Bosnia, who have
been forced to accept integration into that state by the Dayton
Peace Accords of 1995. For, Ducic's birthplace, Trebinje, is
located within the Serb "entity" of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and this
entity has been under increasing pressure by both the "New World
Order"-oriented "international community" and the Muslim-
dominated central government to "melt" into the artificially created,
multi-ethnic Bosnian state.

On the other hand, the very symbol of Bosnia's "multi-ethnicity,"
the Brcko district, which was formed by an arbitration decision in
April 1998 -- largely with the backing of the U.S. State Department -
- has been subjected to a test itself during the past several days as
Serb school children have demonstrated, demanding their right to
separate schools and curricula.  Police have confirmed clashes
between Serb and Muslim pupils and the situation has become
serious enough to warrant the presence of SFOR's special forces.

So it seems that, while some symbols of a more permanent nature
are stabilizing the situation in Serbia, the symbols of expediency
and the realpolitik of the New World Order around them seem to be
unravelling. Past support for Milosevic was in the same utilitarian
context as the continuing support for the artificial Bosnian state:
They were both the means to an end, which served outside
interests.

On the other hand, the new Serbian and Yugoslav rebirth is an end
in itself, coming from indigenous sources.  It is no wonder that its
symbols seem to be of a more permanent nature.  After all, the
associative meaning of the word "kostunica" has to do with the
core or the pith of a fruit.  In other words, it has to do with
fundamentals -- which seem to be a somewhat stronger base for
the future in a world of constant change.

[CTRL] DEA implicated in deal with terrorists


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http://www.herald.com/content/archive/news/lospepes2000/docs/04
0263.htm

Published Friday, October 20, 2000, in the Miami Herald

DEA implicated in deal with terrorists
BY GERARDO REYES
El Nuevo Herald

In a desperate effort to trap Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar,
the governments of the United States and Colombia allied
themselves to a fearful criminal organization that was responsible
for the deaths of dozens of Escobar's associates and friends in
1993, according to testimony and documents obtained by El Nuevo
Herald.

A former member of the organization -- known as Los Pepes, or
People Persecuted by Pablo Escobar -- said the U.S. Drug
Enforcement Administration turned a blind eye to the group's
activities. He also asserted that some of the group's members kept
in direct contact with DEA agent Javier Peña, who worked in
Medellín.

Peña was the DEA's liaison with the National Police's Search Bloc,
a unit whose sole mission was to track down Escobar. Today he is
deputy director of the DEA's bureau in Colombia.

Until his death in December 1993 at the age of 44, Escobar led
Colombia's notorious Medellín Cartel.

``The Americans covered their eyes to keep from seeing what Los
Pepes did, but they knew exactly what was happening,'' said the
source, who asked to be identified only as ``Rubén.''
``In the end, we had a common enemy,'' he said.

United States law forbids government agencies to work hand-in-
hand with illegal groups, much less if they are involved in the
commission of violent crimes.

Organized in February 1993, Los Pepes were funded by the Cali
Cartel, paramilitary groups, a legion of relatives and friends of
Escobar's victims -- even associates of Escobar who turned
against their boss to save their own skins.

``The DEA has never compromised itself deliberately and does not
condone the actions of paramilitary or terrorist organizations,'' said
DEA spokesman Michael Chapman in a written statement from
Washington.

``However, the gathering of information about the activities of drug-
trafficking organizations such as Los Pepes is one of the DEA's
key roles,'' he wrote.

According to official documents and contemporary testimony, Los
Pepes were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people,
among them Escobar's relatives, lawyers and lieutenants.
``Nobody has finished counting the dead, but I believe that they
numbered -- on the average -- six a day, for almost one year,''
Rubén said.

Los Pepes were under the command of brothers Fidel and Carlos
Castaño Gil, founders of the paramilitary movement in Colombia.
They declared war on Escobar in response to the persecution he
unleashed on them and their friends from La Catedral prison.
Escobar, who surrendered to the government in June 1991, had
continued to direct the cartel's activities from La Catedral, a
minimum-security institution in the city of Envigado. He escaped in
July 1992, after the authorities announced they would transfer him
to a more secure prison.

Fidel died in a gunfight in September 1994. Carlos today is the
leader of Colombia's paramilitary groups, which have been
vigorously condemned by Washington because of the massacres
committed during their private war against the leftist guerrillas.
According to one of Escobar's lawyers, the Castaño brothers and
other members of Los Pepes had unrestricted access to the Carlos
Holguín School in Medellín, headquarters of the National Police's
Search Bloc.

``It was as if they were members of the Search Bloc,'' the lawyer
said. ``Right there, in the same bunker, slept Peña, the DEA
agent.''

As a token of appreciation, the American Embassy gave a visa to
``Don Berna,'' one of the most active members of Los Pepes, to
come to the United States in 1994 and watch the World Cup
Soccer games being played in Los Angeles, Ruben said.

Don Berna had worked as a bodyguard for Fernando Galeano, an
Escobar associate who was kidnapped, tortured and killed in July
1992 on orders from Escobar.

In its written statement to El Nuevo Herald, the DEA made no
reference to the visa granted to Don Berna, who is accused of
leading a band of mercenaries calling itself Las Terrazas (The
Terraces), based in Medellín.

The DEA's spokesman said that, from the mid-1980s to the mid-
1990s, agents of that agency and other U.S. government agencies
``worked proudly with the Colombian police to combat the powerful
cartels.''

Col. Oscar Naranjo, who directed the Colombian police's
intelligence services during the search for Escobar, said that ``a
direct channel of communications existed between the police and
Los Pepes'' and that the American antidrug agencies knew of its
existence and took advantage of it.

However, Naranjo denied being in complicity with Los Pepes.
For almost all of 1993, none of the leaders of Los Pepes was
arrested, even though the government offered a rich reward for
information leading to their capture. At least on one occasion, the
then Attorney General, Gustavo de Greiff, voiced

[CTRL] Carnivore


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http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20001016.html
http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20001017.html
http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20001018.html


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As for [that truck almost hitting George Bush],
political experts say that having your opponent
almost get hit by a tractor trailer is just one
of the many benefits Al Gore will receive after
his recent endorsement by the AFL-CIO.
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[CTRL] Ohio Court Backs Forced Medication


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Personally, I think the whole mental health profession should be
permanently quarantined!

Kathleen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
srv/aponline/20001019/aponline080110_000.htm

Ohio Court Backs Forced Medication
By Andrew Welsh-Huggins
Associated Press Writer
Thursday, Oct. 19, 2000; 8:01 a.m. EDT
COLUMBUS, Ohio   A mentally ill person involuntarily committed
to a treatment center can be ordered by a court to take anti-
psychotic drugs if it is in the patient's best interest, the state
Supreme Court ruled.
The unanimous decision said a court also can order medication if a
patient lacks the capacity to give or withhold informed consent
regarding treatment, and if a less intrusive treatment is unavailable.
Before Wednesday's decision, medical personnel could only
forcibly medicate mentally ill people who posed an immediate
danger to themselves or others.
The court ruled in the case of Jeffrey Steele, who appealed a 1997
request by the Hamilton County Community Mental Health Board
to forcibly give him psychotropic or mind-altering drugs.
"We have attempted to craft a decision that acknowledges a
person's right to refuse anti-psychotic medication, and yet
recognizes that mental illness sometimes robs a person of the
capacity to make informed treatment decisions," Justice Andrew
Douglas wrote.

Steele was judged mentally ill and involuntarily hospitalized in
August 1997, according to court documents. Seeking a legal
standard for such cases, his lawyer, Shannon Smith, appealed the
order to the Supreme Court even though Steele voluntarily began
taking the drugs in 1998.

"I'm disappointed in the decision. I am encouraged by the fact they
took a good hard look at it and now we have a standard," Smith
said.



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Re: [CTRL] Site Gone - City Limits, New York


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On 19 Oct 2000, at 9:51, ThePiedPiper wrote:

 that the whole site seems to be gone.
 Are they just temporally down?  I do not have
 the resources to ping them.

 Insanity Pleas from the City Limits: New Yorks Urban Affairs News
 Magazine http://www.cityliomits.org/archives/0005davis.htm

There's a typo in the URL.

Go to

http://www.citylimits.org/archives/0005davis.htm

I found it with no problem.

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[CTRL] Is Al Gore an owner of Martin County Coal Corporation?


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udge.htm

Coal-waste Spill Could Be Nation's Worst
Lexington Herald-Leader

Excerpts from this hot story:
"Last week's spill contained measurable amounts of metals,
including arsenic, mercury, lead, copper and chromium, a federal
official said yesterday..."

Chief of the Department for Fish and Wildlife Resources'
environmental section, said: ``We have instances of black water
every year, but this is the worst one I've seen or heard of.''

So far about 100 miles of waterways have been affected,
state officials said.

Public services director Steve Corbitt said, "``This is a totally
different animal than we've ever seen  before.''
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http://www.sierratimes.com/newsfeed/index.htm

This thing is really, really bad. And it's still not being reported on by
the "mainstream news media."  It's become very clear that the
press are avoiding this for some reason, or for some person. We've
received an unconfirmed report that Al Gore is one of the owners of
the company responsible. (Martin County Coal Corporation,
subsidiary of the A.T. Massey Co., which is in turn,owned by the
Fluor Corporation.) This would tend to explain the near media
blackout of this unprecedented inland waterway disaster, but
we've not been able to confirm this.  It could also explain why the
A.T. Massey company has received what appears to be preferential
treatment by the government after previous spills by a few of its
other subsidiaries.

EPA Settles Massey Water Spills

Or maybe it's because the the parent company, the Fluor
Corporation is a recipient of multi-billion dollar government
contracts.

In addition, the Fluor Corp. has had contracts with Shell
Oil dating back to 1932. N.M. Rothschild, at the very
least, a "shareholder" in Shell Oil (and longtime international
banking company) established NM Rothschild (Denver) Ltd. in 1980
to serve the mining industry in the Western U.S.

So, what does all this mean? Heck if we know. We're just
trying to figure out why no one is interested in talking about this
huge environmental disaster. Not even Mr. Clean Water/Clean Air
himself, Al Gore. -  Sierra Times


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[CTRL] Report: Israel captures members of Palestinian lynch mob


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http://www.etherzone.com/Making_News_Now2.html

Report: Israel captures members of Palestinian lynch mob
By Arieh O'Sullivan
JERUSALEM (October 19) - Security sources said yesterday that
commandos had hunted down and captured at least six Palestinian
suspects in connection with the barbaric lynch of two reservists
last week in Ramallah, news agencies reported.
Palestinian police said that a number of Palestinians already have
gone missing, and at least eight are believed to be held by Israel.
Without confirming or denying, Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim
Sneh said that those who carried out the lynching of Sgt.-Maj.
(res.) Vadim Novesche and Sgt.-Maj. (res.) Yosef Avrahami last
Thursday should beware.
"I say in the most unequivocal way, justice will get to those who
did this, just like it came to perpetrators of the massacre [of Israeli
athletes at the 1972 Olympics] in Munich," Sneh said in an
interview with Channel 2.
"I don't want to go into detail about what has been done, and
certainly not about what is to be done," he said. "That could only
spoil things."
His comments appeared to indicate that the operation is ongoing.
A leader of the Palestinian Tanzim, Hussein a-Sheikh, said that if it
turns out that Israeli special forces had entered Palestinian-
controlled territory to seize the suspects, it would provoke an
outburst of fury.
"I think our reaction will be very grave. This gives Palestinians a
free hand," Sheik told Channel 1. "Now, you give us the right to go
after those who killed Mohammed Aldura," the 12-year-old boy
killed by IDF bullets during a September 30 firefight with
Palestinian police.
A Palestinian security officer said that eight suspected participants
in last Thursday's lynching were captured by a special undercover
operation in Palestinian-controlled areas and brought to Israel to
stand trial. According to unconfirmed reports, at least one of the
men has been "eliminated" by Israeli security forces.
Scores of people participated in the lynch, which was broadcast in
grizzly detail around the world. There are a few, however, that Israel
especially would like to punish, such as the man who proudly
showed the crowd his hands covered with the dead reservists'
blood.
The Palestinian security officer also confirmed reports that many of
those who took part in the lynch have gone underground. The
Palestinians themselves claim to have arrested two of the leaders.
Army radio said that Palestinian police in Ramallah have increased
patrols to prevent infiltration into the city.
The missing Palestinians were apprehended by an elite undercover
unit acting together with General Security Service agents, Itim
reported.
"If it turns out that Israel captured them in Area A, the PA will
consider it a grave violation of the agreement," one Palestinian
security officer said.
Another, however, said he did not believe the Israeli action would
greatly upset the PA, "since most Palestinians were shocked by
the lynching."
The fact that Israeli troops may have had to violate Palestinian
"sovereignty" to get their hands on the men raises the question of
whether PA security forces cooperated with Israel.
Government and security sources refused to comment or confirm
the reports, beyond vowing that Israel would settle accounts with
those responsible for the lynch. IDF Spokesman Brig.-Gen. Ron
Kitri told Army Radio, "If I were in their shoes, I too would be
looking for a place to sleep at night."
As word of the arrests rippled through the territories, it was seen in
Israel as a success in restoring some of the IDF's deterrent power,
which has suffered due to an accumulation of mishaps and
defeats.
Boaz Ganor, director of the International Policy Institute for Counter
Terrorism, said that the echo of the arrests would certainly help
boost Israel's deterrence.
"As a pin-point step it is effective, but not enough. However, I am
sure that if there is another lynch, you can be certain that no one is
going to show their hands to the photographers," Ganor said.
Israel has never officially admitted to having a policy of eliminating
its enemies, but it is widely believed to have been behind the
assassination of a number of key figures in the past.
According to Israel's Secret War, by Ian Black and Benny Morris,
the government authorized the Mossad to assassinate the leaders
of the Palestinian Black September organization responsible for the
murder of 11 Israeli athletes during the 1972 Munich Olympics.
More recent assassinations include Islamic Jihad leader Fathi
Shkaki in Malta in 1995 and PLO leader Abu Jihad in Tunis in the
late 1980s.
David Kimche, former director-general of the Foreign Ministry and
an ex-Mossad official, said Israel's policy of relentless retribution
has deep historic roots.
"It's to show people... that we do not lightly allow our people to be
attacked," he told AP. "These are peculiar rules of the game in this
country. If Israelis are attacked, there will be retribution. It's part

[CTRL] WHY VOTE? THROW A BOSTON TEA PARTY INSTEAD


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http://www.etherzone.com/

If you want to view this story at the website, go to page two and
scroll down till you find it.

WHY VOTE?
THROW A BOSTON TEA PARTY INSTEAD
By: Ed Henry
This is a terrible thing to say, but why should we sponsor
feudal lords who overtax us? Why should we go to
the polls to put our stamp of approval on a
government thats out of control? A government
that brags about surplus booty in the hundreds
of billionsno, trillions. Even expects us to
applaud the fact that they are taking more of
our sweat equity than they need in order to
conduct their caretaker business. Feudal Lords that
now argue over how to best spend this extra fealty.
Im sorry
folks, thats not the way this country is supposed
to work. Our founding fathers would turn over in their graves if they
saw and heard whats going on today.
We are not slaves, subjects, serfs or farm animals meant to breed
and work harder to fill
government coffers.
If I hear Al Gore mention one more time how hes going to provide
prescription drugs for the elderlyafter having
stolen and blown more than $250 billion from
Medicare taxesIm going to puke.
If I hear him talk about lock-boxes againafter the Democrats
already
put the dead hand on two separate FICA tax lock-
box billsIm going to throw my ashtray
through the cathode tube.
Its bad enough that we have to listen to nit-picking spinsters and
political analysts split hairs over personalities and
mannerisms that shouldnt have much to
do with leading a nation of free people. But when
we absolutely ignore the fact that the richest
nation in the world, a nation that has been riding
the crest of an economy built on the shoulders
of hard working Americans, has incurred
indebtedness of almost $5.7 trillionI get sick.
The United States of America is the worlds greatest debtor nation.
There is no other country in the world as deeply in
debt as we are. And no one asks how this
happened.
September 30th was the end of the governments fiscal year. And
guess
what? The national debt went up again. Despite all
the baloney you hear about reducing the debt,
we are still running it up. Is anybody out there
listening?
We still wont know how much of this debt increase is due to
stealing
Social Security and other excess entitlement
funds, at least not until after the elections. The
December Monthly Report from the Treasury
contains those details. But its certainly not what
honest Bill and Al have been telling us, is it?
In December of 1995, when nasty Republicans like Newt Gingrich
and Bob Dole
forced government shutdowns by insisting that
Clinton and the Democrats agree to a date for a
balanced budget, the national debt stood at a
ceiling of $4.9 trillion. Refusing to
raise the debt ceiling was what gave them the
leverage to pull this bluff. That was five years and
$800 billion ago. Figure it out. How much of an
average annual increase is that?
Jack Denton, a friend of mine, says that: It is economic stupidity to
think that a nation can borrow itself into prosperity,
and then tax the people to pay the
principal and interest on the debt. How do you
feel about that?
Whats happening is that you and I are working like crazy to keep
our
heads above water and create a great economy,
but the government is in deep doo-doo. Its
also been two years since the government set out
to save Social Security, and what
have you got? The government has plans to
increase entitlement taxes and cut
benefitsthats what youve got.
Meanwhile, the federal government stole about $80 billion (by my
estimate)
from Social Security tax payments during fiscal
2000 and another $100 billion from other
entitlements, including Medicare.
And weve had presidential candidates out there for just about two
years now trying to sell us on their qualifications
and qualities for the job. Now, in the last
moments before the election, they are hoping we
get to know them. Do you hear either of our two
major candidates sensibly address these other
major problems???
What kind of an employer allows someone to take two years
interviewing for

[CTRL] STATE DEPT MEMO: DEATH OF US SAILORS DOES NOT COMPARE TO PALESTINIAN TOLL

2000-10-18 Thread K


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X DRUDGE REPORT X TUE OCT 17, 2000 20:03:41 ET
X
STATE DEPT MEMO:  DEATH OF US SAILORS DOES NOT
COMPARE TO PALESTINIAN TOLL

The United States State Department believes the "17 or so dead
sailors" on the U.S.S. Cole "does not compare to the 100+
Palestinians who have died in recent weeks" in Mideast violence, a
stunning government memo reveals.

MORE

The Clinton/Gore Administration disapproved a VOICE OF
AMERICA broadcast condemning the attack on the Cole. A memo
from the Executive Secretariat Staff at the State Department stated:
"The Department of State does not clear on the referenced VOA
editorial.
"This editorial will reach an audience that is caught up in the
violence in Israel and the Occupied Territories.  The 17 or so dead
sailors does not compare to the 100+ Palestinians who have died
in recent weeks where we have remained silent.  The people that
hear this will not see the separation we are trying to make and
relate it directly to the violence.
"Either VOA adds something in there to take the edge off and
mention the Palestinians or we should kill this editorial until the
violence has calmed for a while.
"S/CT [Secy. for counterterrorism] concurred with this.  If you have
questions concerning this editorial, please contact NEA/P
(unintelligible)


FROM:  Swadia Sarkis, Interagency Coordinator
TO:  Voice of America (VOA), Office of Policy
RE:  VOA Editorial: Terrorism Will Fail
OCTOBER 16, 2000
END


DEVELOPING...

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Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
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[CTRL] Fwd: Fighting the \wasted vote\ syndrome

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Friends,

Here is an article by Harry Browne to forward to
friends and family members who are concerned about
"wasting their vote" by voting Libertarian. Enjoy.

Steve Dasbach
National Director
Libertarian Party

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Do You Want Smaller Government?

by Harry Browne
Libertarian Candidate for President

The most important political question you can ask
yourself is simply this:

Do you want smaller government?

Do you want an end to the welfare state, to
government destroying our health-care system, to
government at all levels taking 47% of the
national income in taxes, to government intrusions
into your life and your business?

Do you want smaller government?

  Stop Supporting Big Government

If you do, the first step toward getting it is
obvious:

You must stop supporting those who are making
government bigger.

You can't go east by moving west. It's a physical
impossibility.

You can't make government smaller by rewarding
those who make government bigger. It's a political
impossibility.

Only when you begin asking for what you really
want do you have any chance of getting it.

Al Gore wants to make government bigger. He's
proposed a long list of new government programs.

George W. Bush wants to make government bigger.
He's proposed an equally long list of new
government programs to show that he's as
compassionate as Mr. Gore -- as though having
government spend your money somehow demonstrates
compassion.

Pat Buchanan says he wants a return to
constitutional government. But he's made no
specific proposals to reduce government, while
proposing to have government fix what he thinks is
wrong with America. For one thing, he wants to
tell you what kind of car you can drive.

And Ralph Nader wants to tell you whether you can
drive a car at all. But that's the least of his
many plans to make government much bigger.

  What Smaller Government Means

I am the only presidential candidate offering
specific proposals to make government smaller --
much smaller:

* I want to get the federal government
_completely_ out of every area where it's made
such a mess -- health care, education, law
enforcement, welfare, foreign aid, corporate
welfare, highway boondoggles, farm subsidies. Not
only are these programs unconstitutional, they do
tremendous damage to our lives.

* I want to make the federal government so small
you won't pay _any_ income tax. (The tariffs and
excise taxes already being collected are enough to
finance the constitutional functions of
government.)

* I want to free you immediately and completely
from the Social Security system. I want to sell
off government assets to finance private
retirement accounts for anyone now dependent on
Social Security -- so you and I and every other
American can immediately stop paying the 15%
Social Security tax.

* I want to end the nightmare of Prohibition by
stopping the insane War on Drugs. At least 90% of
the invasions of your civil liberties over the
last 30 years have been justified by the Drug War.
You may have no interest in drugs, but the
government still snoops in your bank account,
monitors your email, and claims the power to
search and seize your property without due
process.

* I want to restore completely your unconditional
right to keep and bear any weapon necessary to
defend yourself and your family. We can't end gun
violence with new laws or by enforcing the laws on
the books now. The gun laws are the principal
_cause_ of gun violence, so we must repeal those
laws.

* I _don't_ want to appoint Supreme Court judges
who are "strict constructionists" or who divine
"original intent." I want to appoint judges who
can read the plain language of the Constitution --
who understand that when the Constitution says
"Congress shall make no law," it means _Congress
shall make no law_. I want judges who will strike
down government programs that are not authorized
by the Constitution.

In short, I don't want to slow the growth of
government. I don't even want to stop the growth
of government. I want to _reduce_ government
dramatically -- to the limits imposed by the
Constitution.

  What Freedom Means

I want you to be free to live your life as _you_
want to live it -- not as Al Gore or George Bush
thinks you should.

You're the one who gets up every morning and goes
to work for 8, 10, or 12 hours a day. How dare
politicians like George Bush or Al Gore presume to
decide how much of what you earn you should be
allowed to keep?

I want you to be able to keep _every_ dollar you
earn -- to spend it, save it, give it away as
_you_ think best -- not just the crumbs the
politicians leave for you.

I want you to be able to use your own money to put
your children in a school of your choice --
private, religious, or home school -- without

Re: [CTRL] Reu: Plane Carrying Missouri Governor Crashes

2000-10-17 Thread K


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On 17 Oct 2000, at 14:38, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

  It strains a bit to imagine
 such a bit of Republican luck.  After all, I'm sure they'll do most
 anything to keep control of the Senate.   Wouldn't be the first time
 this kind of luck came along, would it? Prudy

You mean ...like Vince Foster, Ron Brown, the numerous Clinton
bodyguards who met untimely deaths, the boys on the tracks, for
example?



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[CTRL] Fwd: Keep the faith: How to be a civil libertarian

2000-10-16 Thread K

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So, what are civil libertarians and why are they so damned annoying? And how can you join the club?
Difficulty Level: medium Time Required: A lifetime
Here's How: Recognize that the highest political value is personal freedom. Keep in mind that freedom is of utmost importance especially when it's inconvenient. Remember that the right to criticize the government doesn't end when a war begins; that's when it's especially needed. Be consistent. There are freedoms that you favor and freedoms you don't. The right to be left alone applies to them all, equally. Be consistent. There are people who you favor and people you don't. Respect for the rights of folks you despise is at the root of freedom. Don't support "reasonable" limits on freedom -- you'll get "reasonabled" into a police state over a generation. Don't support politicians who think that liberty is a privilege, not a right. Don't sell out one right to help another -- you lose allies that way and will lose the whole cause in time. Never let somebody convince you that the current political system is more important than specific rights. People will be here long after the government falls. Remember that in the cause of freedom, your strongest ally may be your worst enemy on other matters of policy or personality.
Tips: Keep the faith. Freedom is often unpopular because it makes politics difficult and society tumultuous. It's supposed to do that!
Related Features: Basics of liberty

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[CTRL] California Supreme Court validates search warrant with wrong address

2000-10-16 Thread K


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California Supreme Court validates search warrant with wrong
address
By DAVID KRAVETS

Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The California Supreme Court delved into
the sensitive area of police search-and-seizure law Monday,
validating a warrant with the wrong address.
Still, the unanimous decision did not break new ground in search-
and-seizure law. Instead, the ruling reinstated the conviction of a
Los Angeles County man in which authorities found drugs,
weapons and bogus phone-access cards in his Santa Fe Springs
residence.
The high court said although the warrant's address was false,
authorities searched the correct house in 1997. California and
federal courts have upheld warrants that provided wrong addresses
and faulty descriptions of houses subject to a search.
Defense attorneys argued it was an illegal search because the Los
Angeles County Sheriff's Department searched a house not
authorized by a warrant, in violation of the U.S. Constitution's
Fourth Amendment.
Defendant Luis Amador's attorneys claimed that a neighbor's
house may have been the residence to be searched and that
authorities illegally stumbled on his small amount of
methamphetamine for sale, a loaded firearm and hundreds of
counterfeited telephone access cards.
The state Supreme Court held Monday that, despite the address
error and an erroneous description of the residence, the officer who
applied for and executed the warrant had previously viewed the
house from the outside with an informant. And there were no other
residences with the faulty address, the court noted.
"The warrant and the officer's knowledge together leave no doubt
that the magistrate found probable cause to search one particular
house to the exclusion of all others, i.e., the house actually
searched," Justice Ming W. Chin wrote for the court.
Magistrates or judges issue warrants at the request of law
enforcement authorities.
An appeals court threw out Amador's conviction after concluding
the search was reckless.
In reinstating the conviction, the high court said that, to exclude
evidence seized with a defective warrant, police conduct first must
be examined. That is to avoid so-called "exploratory searches,"
which result when warrants do not clearly state a purpose or
provide false information.
But in this case, the court found, authorities' conduct was not in
dispute. The court said that "complete precision" in describing a
residence to be searched is not required.
When warrants contain inaccurate descriptions, for example, they
can be thrown out if they lead or could lead to the wrong house
being searched, Chin wrote.
"We find the executing officer was easily able to locate and identify
the specified premises and there was little probability that another
premise would be mistakenly searched," Chin wrote.

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NEWSFLASH: OCTOBER 14. Who is making an illegal killing in
the stock market right now and ripping off millions of Americans?
Who is profiting from the violence and death in Palestine?  Who is
making $$$ from the deaths of US sailors on the USS Cole?  Who
is racking up huge rewards from higher oil prices?

A respected investment advisor, speaking off the record, states,
"Everybody on Wall Street knows that when oil goes up the
business stocks on every exchange in the world begin to drop. If
you have inside information on oil prices, you can play the market
like a fiddle.  Certain big oil executives and their friends have been
short-selling stocks all over the world and watching them drop.
Their profits are staggering."

The recent massive fall in stock markets has also been
coordinated with the bombing of the USS Cole and the violence in
Palestine.  These murderous events cause investors to get jittery
and sell their stock holdings, forcing stock prices to go down.

So while US families worry about freezing this winter, fat cats are
reaping huge benefits from short selling--betting, in effect, that
major stock prices will go down.  Their bets are correct.

The Securities and Exchange Commission, the US agency
responsible for keeping the investing game fair, is of course
sitting on its hands.

The stock advisor I spoke with goes on to say, "There should be an
immediate investigation to find out who is illegally making millions
from the current crises around the world.  But that won't happen.
Because such an investigation would reveal that the whole stock-
investing game is rigged on many fronts..."

Gore and Bush say nothing either, because they are fronting for
special interests who know how to play this fixed stock game very
well.  The public is fed the boring presidential debates, in which the
object seems to be taking on the role of the most polite
candidate.  The public is told it would be a mortal sin not to vote
for either Bush or Gore.

Reports coming out of all major news outlets keep repeating "eye-
witness accounts" of a raft "loaded with explosives" that blew up
with its terrorist passengers at the hull of the USS Cole.  This,
despite the fact that there is a very high probability the raft was
carrying a very sophisticated shaped charge--and wasn't stacked
with any explosives.  See much more below.  (written and filed by
Jon Rappoport on Saturday, Oct.14)


 NEWSFLASH: OCTOBER 13.  Knowledgeable sources
indicate that the bomb that took out a 40 X 20 section of the USS
Cole and killed US sailors was a shaped charge.  This charge was
"sophisticated, outfitted with either a contact detonator or a
proximity detonator." So the bomb would have gone off on the raft
when the raft either touched the hull of the Cole or came close to
it.  The people behind this were not amateurs.

The bombing of the USS Cole occurred on the day when two Israeli
soldiers were killed by Palestinians, provoking the Israeli
helicopter/rocket attack--and on the same day that the US stock
markets plunged.  These and other events of October 12 suggest
intentional coordination on a broad scale. (Written and filed by Jon
Rappoport. See more below.)

NEWSFLASH: OCTOBER 12.  Middle East conflict, terrorism, oil
prices, the election in the US, the stock market, the economy,
Israel, Palestine.

This is an OPERATION.  This is not a series of  accidents or
coincidences.  As the tech stocks on NASDAQ started to
tumble, exposing the dotcoms and the phony biotech companies--
several months ago--both the Repubs and the Demos began to
think about how an economic downturn might affect their
Presidential campaign strategies.  Oil prices a little later began to
rise.  The energy moguls, backing Bush, saw the possibility that a
temporary hit of this kind to the economy in the US could benefit
Bush's cause.  After all, who wants to change political parties in
the middle of what the press has been calling the greatest period of
prosperity in US history? So, the thinking has gone, why not erode
that prosperity with rising oil prices and get the people to bring in
Bush Jr.  Nothing very unusual so far.

Through overt manipulation, not so different from the holding of US
hostages in Iran during the Carter-Reagan campaign of 1980, the
US has been being held hostage, in a very soft way, by rising
oil prices--and these prices would immediately drop as soon as
Bush Jr. won the White House...just as the hostages returned as
soon as Reagan was inaugurated President.  This is a distinct
parallel.  After all, George Bush Sr. was involved in the October
Surprise, which was the deal made with the Ayatollah in Iran to
hold the US hostages until the election of 1980, thereby wrecking
all confidence in the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and ensuring a
Reagan victory.

But now the ante was upped.  Clinton-Gore decided to free up US
reserves of oil to counteract the energy moguls' raising of oil
prices.  This was a bit

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[CTRL] Ya Gotta Wonder


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http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/libe92-20001002-03.html

Ya Gotta Wonder
by Carl Bussjaeger(*)

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Sometimes ya gotta wonder

I had the misfortune to suffer a truck breakdown recently. I was
temporarily stranded in an "economically disadvantaged" area while
I waited for a friend to arrive with the parts required for the repair.

I had a few encounters while I was there, the first of which occurred
when I was newly arrived on the scene at about two o'clock in the
morning. While I was on the phone with my friend, three rowdies
came up to me yelling, and generally acting in a belligerent
manner. My friend could hear them, and asked if I was in trouble. I
told him it was possible that I was about to mugged, but that it
seemed unlikely they'd succeed, while staring down the rowdies.

At that point, my "accosters" apparently took in my general, non-
terrified demeanor, large multi-pocketed vest (which is very
nearly the official uniform for concealed carry), and partially
concealed hand grasping something under the vest at my hip.

They left abruptly. Maybe I should send Lott another report of a
crime prevented without firing a shot. Or maybe not. After all,
nothing really happened.

I didn't really have any more trouble for the entire seventeen hours
I was there. Quite the contrary. While waiting to use the phone, or
otherwise killing time, I was engaged in several friendly
conversations with the locals. You know, the sort of thing that isn't
supposed to happen to a white guy in the slums, if you believe
stereotypes that deny that most people are just ... people.

Around lunch time I walked into a little cafe across the street,
where I chatted pleasantly with the folks working there while I
ordered and ate a meal. And even though it was set up as more of a
fast food joint, the cashier even brought my food to my table, and
came back to refill my glass of tea. Nice folks.

Most of the day was like that; generally pretty good, despite a
breakdown that cost seventy-five bucks to fix. People walking by,
saying hello, smiling, wondering about my trouble.

So what's my point?

Well, I did have another "visitor" while I was stuck there. A cop.

I was over by the payphone about to call my friend for an update,
when a patrol car pulled into the parking lot and slowly circled my
truck. It stopped, and American Ninja carefully exited his vehicle:
BDU pants, black. Shirt, black. Tactical load-bearing vest, black.
Black equipment belt with gun, OC spray, asp baton, cuffs, and
enough mag pouches to supply the allied forces in Desert Storm.
Combat boots, black; at least they weren't jackboots. As he slowly
approached my truck, his head maintained a constant scan of his
surroundings. His hand was on his gun. Careful is one thing; but
this was behavior more suited to a soldier behind enemy lines than
a public servant in his own community.

Given his apparent paranoia level, I approached him pretty damned
cautiously myself, announcing myself so's not to startle him
into anything unpleasantly fatal (to me). He didn't quite draw
his sidearm.

We spoke. I explained my difficulty, and that parts were on the way.
He barely made eye contact as he continued to visually sweep the
area. Then he told me that I should get towed out of the
neighborhood, as soon as possible, don't wait for repairs, because
"This area is dangerous". Eventually he left, still looking
like a soldier listening for the whistle of incoming mortar fire.

Ya gotta wonder

Aside from the three stooges at the beginning of my odyssey, no
one in the area gave me any trouble. To the contrary; people
chatted with me, exchanged jokes. I got some of the best cafe
service that I've seen in months. I was even offering to share coffee
(one of the advantages of keeping all that camping gear in the
truck) with folks waiting for the bus.

But the obviously nervous cop told me, "This area is
 dangerous".

I encountered three clowns with better sense than to mess with me
and a whole lot of friendly people.

That cop looked like he was expecting Viet Cong on night patrol.

Ya gotta wonder

What did that cop see or know that I didn't?

Or, more to the point... Why did he see something different?

Ya gotta wonder

Did the people react to me in a friendly manner because I came
across as an ordinary Joe, no threat? If so, were they simply
reacting to the psyched-up, blackshirted stormtrooper...
appropriately?  Spooner knows, the guy made me nervous; and he
was supposedly helping me.

Ya gotta wonder

I found it inconvenient to be stuck there; but to the municipal
soldier it was dangerous.

Ya gotta wonder

I treated people decently, and was treated the same way in turn.
The cop seemed to consider them the enemy... and thinks the
area is dangerous.

Ya gotta wonder if black-garbed thugs are really the best way to
keep the peace in our communities.

Ya gotta wonder why the cities think they *want* stormtroopers, if

[CTRL] Judge Lenient With Perjurer, Cites Clinton Case


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http://www.abqjournal.com/news/149889news10-14-00.htm

Judge Lenient With Perjurer, Cites Clinton Case

Saturday, October 14, 2000

Judge Lenient With Perjurer, Cites Clinton Case
By Guillermo Contreras
Journal Staff Writer
Copyright 2000 Albuquerque Journal
   Chief U.S. District Judge James A. Parker told prosecutors last
week that it was unfair of them to ask for a strict prison sentence in
a New Mexico perjury case, pointing out that President Clinton
recently asked for leniency for lying under oath.
   Parker said other factors warranted the sentence he imposed,
but that Clinton's pleadings were somewhat "icing on the cake."
   Parker said it seemed "terribly unfair" that the U.S. Department
of Justice was trying to "pillorize" Ruben Renteria Sr. when Clinton,
for similar or more "egregious" conduct, was asking for leniency.
   Clinton was found in contempt of court in the Paula Jones sexual
harassment case for lying about his affair with White House intern
Monica Lewinsky.
   Just last month, Parker issued a stinging rebuke of the Clinton
administration's prosecution of Wen Ho Lee, who was convicted on
one count of mishandling government nuclear-weapon secrets.
   According to newspaper stories, Clinton told an Arkansas judge
in late August that losing his law license was too harsh a penalty
for lying under oath in the Paula Jones case.
   U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright found Clinton in
contempt, fined him $90,000 and referred the case to the Arkansas
Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct. The
committee in turn has recommended that Clinton be disbarred.
   Parker has declined comment on the Renteria case, saying he
intends to issue a written opinion.
   The Renteria case resulted from a drug-smuggling investigation in
the early 1990s. Renteria, 49, was acquitted of drug-conspiracy
charges after spending 324 days in jail awaiting trial.
   However, prosecutors later charged Renteria with perjury after he
denied signing a consent form that gave investigators permission to
search his property in Deming.
   Renteria was convicted of one count of perjury, and Parker
sentenced him in 1996 to 15 months in prison and two years of
supervised release.
   Prosecutors argued at the time that Renteria should be
sentenced to 60 months in prison.
   Renteria appealed his perjury conviction to the U.S. 10th Circuit
Court of Appeals in Denver, and the government appealed the
sentence.
   The appeals court in 1998 affirmed Renteria's conviction but
threw out the sentence because Parker followed an incorrect
sentencing guideline.
   The 10th Circuit directed Parker to hold a hearing to resentence
Renteria.
   In May 1999, Parker determined that the appropriate guideline
term of imprisonment was 60 months but noted there were several
criteria that could lower that sentencing range.
   A spirited legal battle ensued over what sentencing criteria
applied. Renteria's attorney, Assistant Federal Public Defender
Joseph Gandert, argued in one court filing that the government was
being too severe on Renteria when it failed to prosecute FBI agent
Robert Messemer, who acknowledged that he had made
"inadvertent" errors while testifying in the Wen Ho Lee case.
   Prosecutors contend Parker suggested to Renteria at a hearing
Aug. 30 that he argue for a less-severe sentence than 60 months
based on Clinton's argument in the Paula Jones case.
   Gandert included the Clinton argument in a court motion, and at
a hearing on Oct. 4 Parker imposed a 15-month sentence again. At
that hearing, Parker determined the proper range for sentencing
was 15 to 21 months.
   Among the reasons for choosing that guideline, Parker said, was
that the government could not prove how much marijuana Renteria
allegedly smuggled, that Renteria had already served the original
1996 sentence and that he was doing well at a full-time job.
   Parker also gave Renteria credit for the 324 days he served while
awaiting trial on the drug-conspiracy charges.
   Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathon Gerson vehemently opposed
lowering Renteria's sentence by anything more than the 324 days
of pretrial confinement.
   Gerson told Parker that it was "an abuse of this court's discretion
to rely in any way" on the proceedings involving the president.
   Parker said Clinton's pleadings are "icing on the cake"  adding
"weight" to the other reasons he chose to lessen Renteria's
sentence. But he said he would have made the same decision even
without taking Clinton into account.
   "I took it into account because I think it demonstrates how
terribly unfair it is for the president's Department of Justice to be
attempting to pillorize Mr. Renteria when the president, for similar
conduct, or what is probably more egregious conduct in terms of
its consequences, is claiming that the prospect of not being
allowed to practice as an attorney in Arkansas is too harsh,"
Parker said, according to transcripts of the Oct. 4 hearing.
   "It's just terribly out of

[CTRL] Hijack plane lands in Iraq


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_972000/
972429.stm

Saturday, 14 October, 2000, 19:22 GMT 20:22 UK

Hijack plane lands in Iraq

A Saudi Arabian Airlines flight seized by armed hijackers en route
from Jeddah to London has landed in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.

The hijackers, who had warned the pilot that they were carrying
dynamite, threatened to blow up the Boeing 777-200 with its 95
passengers and 16 crew.

Iraqi television has said there are five hijackers - an Ethiopian and
four Saudis - and that they are seeking political asylum.

The television said negotiations were under way between the Iraqi
authorities and the hijackers.

The airline has listed the nationalities of those on board the Saudi
plane.

They include 40 Britons and one American, as well as 15 Saudis,
15 Pakistanis, four South Africans, four Yemenis and two Kenyans.

One report said that a member of the Saudi royal family was
among the passengers.

Saudi Arabia and Iraq broke off relations 10 years ago when Iraq
invaded Kuwait.

Since then, Iraq has angrily attacked Saudi Arabia's rulers for
hosting western warplanes that patrol daily over Iraq.

However, a spokesman for the Iraqi Culture and Information
Ministry has issued an assurance that every effort will be made to
protect those on board the airliner.

"We would like to reassure the families
of the passengers that the Iraqi authorities will look after them and
tend to their needs as much as possible," he said.

"We will make all the comforts of traditional Arab hospitality
available to them if the hijackers allow it, until their plane returns
home.

First alert

The first alert of the hijack came after the pilot of Flight 115
contacted Egyptian civil aviation officials at 1455 local time (1255
GMT).

The airliner initially flew into Syrian airspace and circled the capital
Damascus. Some reports said it had landed, but it later emerged
that the landing had been aborted at the last moment on the orders
of the hijacker.

Reuters news agency said there was intense activity at the
Baghdad airport after the plane landed at 7.45pm local time (1645
GMT).

There are not normally many flight arrivals there because of UN
sanctions against Iraq.

Reporters outside the airport gate saw several empty buses and a
large number of cars entering.

Message from pilot

Earlier, Israel radio broadcast the message from the pilot to
Egyptian air traffic controllers: "The hijacker is saying that he has
TNT (explosives) on board and he might blow the aircraft, and we
have passengers from all kinds of nationalities.

"Please contact Syrian air control and arrange for us permission to
overfly Syrian airspace en route to Baghdad."

The hijackers would have boarded the plane at Jeddah, where
Saudi security is usually strict.

However, the leader of the Saudi opposition group in London, Dr
Saad Al-Faquih, told the BBC that those with tribal, personal or
royal connections could sometimes bypass security.

Worried relatives and friends of those on board the plane have been
arriving at London Heathrow's Terminal 3 where the flight had been
expected to touch down at 1740 local time (1640GMT).

The helpline number is 0845 6040171

It is the second hijacking in the Gulf in a month.

On 14 September, an Iraqi man hijacked a Qatar Airways plane at
knifepoint and ordered it flown to Saudi Arabia.

The 144 passengers and the crew escaped unharmed when the
man surrendered to Saudi authorities at the city of Hael.

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[CTRL] Analysis: What chance Egypt summit?


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972500.stm

Saturday, 14 October, 2000, 18:22 GMT 19:22 UK

Analysis: What chance Egypt summit?

Palestinian and Israeli leaders have agreed to attend a summit in
Egypt to try to stop the violence that has halted the Middle East
peace process.

But given the failure of a recent summit in Paris between the two
sides, what hope is there for this meeting?

The stormy summit in France essentially collapsed over two
points:

The Palestinians stuck to their calls for an international inquiry into
the recent violence.

The Israelis stuck to their demands for Yasser Arafat to sign an
agreement to end the unrest.
The degree of divergence was so wide that, at one point, the United
States secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, had to run after Mr
Arafat and order the embassy guards to close the gates to keep
him from leaving.

Barak: Insisted on agreement to end violence
If anything, the two leaders now have even less room for manoeuvre.

The violence has worsened, the rhetoric has become harsher, and
opinions are more entrenched.

Mr Barak has invited the hardline Likud Party to form an
emergency coalition - a step seen by the Palestinians as a signal
that Israel has abandoned peace talks.

What control Mr Arafat has over the angry Palestinian crowds is
debatable - but many Palestinians say there is no going back, and
that the intifada, or uprising, is the only way to wring concessions
from Israel.

And, of course, there have been the television pictures: the
shooting of 12-year-old Palestinian boy in the arms of his father as
he pleaded for the gunfire to stop; and the public murder of Israeli
soldiers by a Palestinian mob whose killers proudly showed their
bloodied hands to the world.

Both sides have already expressed limited hopes for the up-coming
summit.

The agenda will be dominated by defusing the violence rather than
the substance of the peace negotiations.

The far-reaching territorial concessions Mr Barak offered at Camp
David, which nearly brought down his minority government and
sparked fierce public debate, look even less tenable.

This time President Bill Clinton will be present.
He certainly commands the respect of the participants but with the
presidential election looming, commentators are already describing
him as a lame duck.

One Palestinian spokesperson says the best that can be hoped for
is to end the immediate violence which, perhaps, may buy time for
a final push in the peace process.

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[CTRL] Mystery disease kills 30 Ugandans


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_97/970809
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Friday, 13 October, 2000, 23:41 GMT 00:41 UK

Mystery disease kills 30 Ugandans

The outbreak centres on the northern town of Gulu
A mystery disease has killed at least 30 people in the northern
Ugandan district of Gulu.

The highly contagious disease causes its victims to bleed to death,
and medical officials say it could be a form of viral haemorrhagic
fever of which Marburg and Ebola are the best known examples.

Efforts to tackle the outbreak have been hampered by the lack of
adequate medical facilities, and the effects of a rebel activity in the
region.

The government and the World Health Organisation have sent fact
finding missions to Gulu to investigate the outbreak,  but so far
have given little practical help.

Samples have been sent to South Africa for analysis and results
should be released next week.

Symptoms of the mystery illness include fever, muscle pains and
bleeding from the mouth, nose and anus.

Among the first victims was reported to be a soldier who had
recently served in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and died on
17 September.

Days later, a woman bled to death after giving birth in a Gulu
hospital.

During the following weeks, seven of her family and friends who
attended her burial service were also dead.

Doctors believe they could have contracted the disease after
washing their hands in the same water at her funeral.

So far 10 people have died in hospital, including three nurses
treating the sick.

The other  victims have succumbed in their villages before they
could get to medical help.

The region's hospital lacks even adequate protective clothing for
staff who are attending to the victims of the disease.

The situation is made worse by the fact that Gulu is at the heart of
a  12-year insurgency by rebels based in neighbouring Sudan.


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[CTRL] Indian farmers halt trains


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Friday, 13 October, 2000, 22:54 GMT

Indian farmers halt trains

Farmers are heavily dependent on government buying their produce
Thousands of farmers in India's northern state of Punjab have
blocked major highways and railway tracks to protest against the
government's refusal to buy their produce.

The farmers are heavily dependent on the procurement of their
produce by federal and state government agencies at a pre-
determined and remunerative price.

However, government officials say their warehouses are already full
with last year's produce, and they have no option but to slow down
the procurement.

Punjab's main opposition parties have called for a general strike on
Saturday to support the farmers' demands.

Several trains, passing through the state, had to be re-routed and
cancelled when large groups of farmers staged a sit-in on the
railway tracks.

Farmers' representatives said the government's failure to buy this
year's harvest had already caused huge losses to small and
marginal farmers.

Many farmers were forced to sell their produce well below the
minimum purchase price fixed by the government.

The representatives said if the rice remained unsold, many farmers
would not have enough money to buy seeds for next year's crop.

The Food Corporation of India, the principal state-run company that
buys agricultural produce, said that nearly 80% of the paddy
harvest in Punjab this year is blighted and below the required
standard.

The company also said it does not have enough space to store the
crop it would procure from the farmers.

Punjab is India's largest agricultural state, and has been the
primary food producer for many decades.

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Re: [CTRL] FR: Stratfor: Anatomy of the Attack: An Unsecured Port


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On 12 Oct 2000, at 23:54, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:


.

 But more than a mere surprise, the attack seems to have taken
 advantage of inherent weaknesses in security at the port. U.S.
 vessels have visited for several years, but have only gotten fuel
 about a dozen times in the last year. This would allow terrorists
 plenty of opportunity to observe refueling and take advantage of weak
 security.

...

 U.S. military ships have refueled at Aden three times since May,
 and have used this port since 1999. Even if USS Cole were armed
 to the teeth, under threat condition Charlie, with an omniscient
 force protection plan, the layout and personnel at Aden would
 still provide camouflage to an aggressor.

It's my understanding that refueling is mandatory after about 30%
of fuel stores are used.  This refueling wasn't an emergency
situation, and we have secure ports in Saudi Arabia where the risks
would have been substantially less.

My question is - who made the decision to use Aden for a refueling
base - and why choose it in preference to the more secure Saudi
locations?  Did the captain make the decision?  Or did he receive
orders from higher up?  If so, how much higher?
The specter of "Terrorism" is one of the main boogeymen

Why has the terrorist boogeyman been brought into play at this
time?

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[CTRL] ISRAELIS BRACED FOR PALESTINIAN 'DAY OF RAGE'


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ISRAELIS BRACED FOR PALESTINIAN 'DAY OF RAGE'
9:06 Friday 13 October 2000
Israeli forces are on high alert, braced for a Palestinian "day of
rage" following the worst violence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip
in decades.
Diplomatic efforts are under way in a bid to prevent all-out war in
the Middle East.
A blast at the British embassy in Yemen - a day after a suicide
attack on a United States warship in the country's main port, Aden -
 has heightened fears that Westerners are being drawn into the
conflict.
With the peace process in tatters, Israeli Premier Ehud Barak is
threatening to form a "national emergency government" including
right-wing leader Ariel Sharon, whose visit to a Muslim holy site
sparked the current crisis.
Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat called Mr Sharon, "the death
kiss to the peace process."
Fears are mounting that further clashes could erupt at religious
sites in the Holy Land during prayers today.
This is despite hopes of a breakthrough when it emerged that
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak had invited both the Israeli and
Palestinian leaders to a new summit.
The idea of a four-way summit has been revived during a
conference call between Bill Clinton, Mr Mubarak and Palestinian
leader Yasser Arafat.
Asked about the possibility of such a gathering, Mr Arafat said,
"The most important thing before a summit is to stop the
aggression against our people."
Israel appears ready to step up the conflict with tanks circling
Palestinian cities and the army preventing Arab residents from
leaving their communities.
Eight missiles have been fired at a Palestinian police academy in
Jericho after the centuries-old "Peace Upon Israel," synagogue
there was burned.
Many in the region described the chaos as a nail in the coffin for
the peace process.
"I believe Mr Barak turned the light off tonight," said Mr Erekat.
"When it's going to be back on, I honestly don't know."
In a series of interviews, an angry Barak lashed out at Mr Arafat,
questioning the Palestinian leader's commitment to peace and
holding him indirectly responsible for the lynching of two Israeli
soldiers.
Mr Barak said Israel would go after those responsible and chided
Mr Arafat for releasing dozens of Hamas and Islamic Jihad
militants from jails.
"This is a grave act that increases the probability of terror attacks,"
Mr Barak said. He demanded that the United States publicly blame
Mr Arafat for the collapse of the peace talks and the escalation of
violence.
Politically weak, Mr Barak plans a unity government and has held
talks with Knesset faction leaders including Mr Sharon and invited
his Likud party to join an emergency coalition.
Mr Sharon has rebuffed Mr Barak in the past, but the prime
ministry says the two leaders will continue to talk.
For the Palestinians, Mr Sharon's inclusion in the government will
be seen as another indication that Mr Barak is rapidly changing
directions on peacemaking.
© Ananova

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[CTRL] Contender Compared to Goebbels Propaganda


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http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/1012/oldmanripscon
tender101200.html

October 12, 2000


(Archive Photos)
Gary Oldman
Oldman Says Studio Democrats Ruined Contender
Cantankerous actor Gary Oldman is openly badmouthing his new
movie, The Contender, just one day before its release date 
which happens to fall on Friday the 13th, with a full moon in the
sky. Will tomorrow be the film's unlucky day?
Oldman, a British citizen and a real-life conservative, is fuming
about editing cuts made to The Contender, which he alleges were
made due to the studio's Democratic leanings. In the new issue of
Premiere magazine, Oldman and his manager, Douglas Urbanski,
accuse DreamWorks honchos Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and
Jeffrey Katzenberg  all Democrats  of turning the political
drama upside down to make it mesh with their pro-Al Gore
agendas.
"If your names are Spielberg, Katzenberg, and Geffen," Urbanski
declares, "you can't have a film with a Republican character  who
is at all sympathetic  being released on Oct. 13 [less than a
month before the presidential election]."
The Contender focuses on a female presidential candidate (Joan
Allen) who comes under fire when her opponent, a Republican
congressman (Oldman), reveals a scandalous skeleton in her
closet.
Oldman says when DreamWorks bought the film rights, the
company forced director-writer Rod Lurie to turn The Contender into
an unbalanced, Democrat-friendly tale. Urbanski cuts to the chase
by alleging that the film is a "piece of propaganda" on par with that
produced by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
DreamWorks spokesman Walter Parkes denies the charges.
"There's no indication to me whatsoever that Rod [Lurie] ever felt
pressured," he said. "One only has to look at the coverage of the
[Democratic] convention to see that the owners of this company
have sympathies with the Democratic Party. Did those sympathies
enter into the editorial process  or the decision to buy the movie?
Unequivocally, no."
Aside from Oldman's disgust, much of The Contender's pre-release
buzz has been positive, with many industry folks speculating on
the film's Oscar potential.


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[CTRL] World Tribune.com pulled off the air

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http://www.worldtribune.com/tease-7.html

World Tribune.com pulled off the air on its biggest news day ever
Friday, October 13, 2000
Little did we suspect, when we began publishing World Tribune.com two years ago, that on the biggest news day of its short life, our web host would take us off the air. Well such is the price of success in cyberspace. Conspiracy? Well at best it was no way to run a business. We won't say more at this stage.

Shortly after sending out our daily e-mail headline alerts, our Jerusalem associates with Middle East Newsline came through with the story which we headlined: "Israel strikes, Palestinian Authority declares war." We checked and saw that the wires were not yet out with the story. Drudgereport.com almost immediately posted our story on one of our biggest news days ever. Within two hours, our web host called and informed us they could not handle the traffic and that they had closed us down permanently.

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Were we the CEO of the Free World, we might set up a legal defense fund. Instead we will simply ask that if you have found World Tribune.com worthwhile and a valuable addition to your news diet, consider sending advertisers our way or suggest partnerships that might allow us to set up the dedicated servers we will need to accommodate our steady (and today, spectacular) growth.

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Besides the advantage of being armed, which the
Americans possess over the people of almost
every other nation, the existence of subordinate
governments, to which the people are attached,
and by which the militia officers are appointed,
forms a barrier against the enterprises of
ambition, more insurmountable than any which a
simple government of any form can admit of.
Notwithstanding the military establishments in
the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried
as far as the public resources will bear, the
governments are afraid to trust the people with
arms.
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Re: [CTRL] Oh, oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...


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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:37:04 EDT
"Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:  Israel has been waiting impatiently for a chance to kill
as many Palestinians as possible without damaging their chances
for money and arms donations. 

Yes, and it is equally true that the Palestinians have been waiting
impatiently to complete Hitler's vision of eliminating every jew in the
world.

There are no saints or innocents on this stage.  If you think you
see any you are simply delusional.
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[CTRL] Fwd: Release: Yemen Bombing


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 NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100
 Washington DC 20037
 World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org
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 For release: October 13, 2000
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 Tragic bombing in Yemen was result
 of our interventionist foreign policy

 WASHINGTON, DC -- The apparent terrorist attack on a U.S. Navy

 destroyer that killed 17 Americans in Yemen on Thursday is another
 bloody reminder that an interventionist foreign policy inevitably
 results in the deaths of innocent Americans, the Libertarian Party
 says.

 "These U.S. servicemen were murdered in part because their own

 government sent them to a dangerous, unstable region where hundreds of
 U.S. soldiers have been slaughtered before," charged Steve Dasbach,
 national director of the Libertarian Party.

 "Bill Clinton says he is 'horrified' by this attack. But
 what's
 truly horrifying are the politicians who keep putting U.S. servicemen
 and women in harm's way -- knowing that more will almost certainly be
 killed in the future."

 At least 17 U.S. servicemen were killed and three dozen
 injured
 after a small boat pulled alongside the USS Cole and set off an
 explosion as the destroyer was docked in Yemen on Thursday. U.S.
 officials say they believe the bombing was a terrorist attack, most
 likely in retaliation for the American role in the Middle East
 conflict.

 "We mourn the loss of these U.S. servicemen, and condemn the
 terrorists who bombed the USS Cole as the cold-blooded killers they
 are," Dasbach said. "But the only reason they had the opportunity to
 strike is because those servicemen's own government put them there in
 the first place."

 And our government tacitly admits that such attacks on
 Americans are inevitable, he said.

 "These attacks happen with such regularity that the FBI has
 set
 up five Rapid Deployment Teams solely to investigate attacks on
 Americans overseas," Dasbach said. "The majority of the agents
 dispatched to Yemen on Thursday were in the Middle East to investigate
 the 1996 truck bombing that killed 19 U.S. airmen in Saudi Arabia and
 the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that
 killed 12 Americans.

 "But instead of eliminating the cause of these killings --
 foreign intervention -- the government seems content to set up more
 Rapid Deployment Teams and dispatch more investigators and more
 bodybags to clean up after the terrorists."

 The reason that future bombings are so predictable, Dasbach
 said, is that U.S. policies virtually invite terrorist attacks.

 "The U.S. government's willingness to take both sides in the
 Middle East dispute has put billions of dollars of lethal weapons in
 the hands of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, and Iran," he said.
 "No wonder both sides have reason to dislike the United States, since
 we've armed and aided both sides' enemies."

 On Thursday, President Clinton said the terrorist bombing
 should not "deter us from our mission of promoting peace and security
 in the Middle East" -- when such a policy actually promotes war and
 insecurity, said Dasbach.

 "A government concerned with preventing the killing of
 additional soldiers would be deploying U.S. troops back home, instead
 of deploying more FBI agents and more bodybags to the Middle East," he
 said.

 Unfortunately, a Libertarian policy of non-intervention
 doesn't
 appeal to Democratic and Republican politicians, who appear to see
 foreign crises as opportunities for greater power, more government
 spending, and a chance to demonstrate their courage by risking the
 lives of others, said Dasbach.

 Case in point: Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who said

 on Thursday, "This is no time for the United States to retreat from
 its responsibilities in the region. We are operating in a world filled
 with a variety of threats. But that doesn't mean that we can crawl
 into an ostrich-like mode. We are eagles."

 In fact, said Dasbach, "In the Middle East, the United States
 is neither an ostrich nor an eagle -- thanks to the U.S. government's
 reckless interventionism, we're a sitting duck."

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[CTRL] (Fwd) [earlywarning] (HIGH)

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Snipped from my in box - I have no idea if this is true - has anyone on this list heard any more?

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 Text of the Early Warning 

Two Jewish civilians reported burned to death in Palistinian Police
station. Third beaten to death. Forth in Hospital.

Cell phone service in Israel just shut down, Israel is at WAR!

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distinguish, from a distance, whether the
bureaucrats associated with your project are
simply sitting on their hands, or frantically
trying to cover their asses. If you observe a
bureaucrat closely enough to make the distinction
above, he will react to your observation by
covering his ass. - Anonymous

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[CTRL] Israel, cell phones back up, Ramallah sealed off

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Cell Phones back up in Israel. City of Ramallah sealed off. Many
military coptors flying over Ramallah. Response unknown. Israel turns off the Cell phones in case of troop movements. Confirmed 4 people killed were Israeli solders. Taken by mob and burned alive in front of Police station. One source in Ramallah said all 4 dead now.

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[CTRL] Israeli deputy premier 'It's war'.

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From: Surfing The Apocalypse  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2000 2:54pm
Subject: Israeli deputy premier 'It's war'.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/media_reports/ne
wsid_968000/968522.stm

Thursday, 12 October, 2000, 09:51 GMT 10:51 UK

Israeli deputy premier: 'It's war'

Ben Eliezer wants a national emergency government
Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer has said
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has chosen a path of war with
Israel and the peace process is now dead. He was speaking in an
interview on Israel Radio on Thursday.

[Ben Eliezer] Those listening to what I have been saying in the past
week or 10 days - I have been saying that there are different
nuances now, instead of fire there are stones - know that Arafat did
not mend his ways in the strategic sense.

We are on a collision course - this is war

Binyamin Ben Eliezer
At some point he decided to opt for the path of violence and
confrontation. Those who haven't understood it so far had better
understand it today, and those who want to go on deluding
themselves can go on doing so.
We are on a collision course. This is war. Arafat has decided to
choose this path. I very much suggest to all of us to change the
programme in our brain once and for all and to understand -

[Interviewer, interrupting] Should we instead adopt the stance of the
right wing, which has long ago said that Arafat is not a partner, that
he has given the green light to terror, and has conducted a revolving-
door policy with regard to Hamas terrorists - all of which is
happening now?

[Ben Eliezer] ... Arafat's absolute and clear answer is war. That's
what he wants, period.
I cannot think of any other government or prime minister who
pursued a better tomorrow more than this government did.
However, all that is over. The story is behind us. There is no
political process today, and the peace process is dead...
[Interviewer] Clinton is no longer sure that he understands Arafat
either.

[Ben Eliezer] You can hear it yourselves. There is no peace
process. I propose that we get ready for a situation of terror and
bombings, and simply understand -

[Interviewer, interrupting] And for a unilateral separation from the
Palestinians, as the prime minister wants?

[Ben Eliezer] Listen, what does separating unilaterally from the
Palestinians mean?

[Interviewer] It means deciding on the borders of the State of Israel
ourselves, without negotiations.

[Ben Eliezer] We will separate unilaterally from the chance of
concluding the peace process at this point. If it happens in another
two or three years - until then all that needs to be done is one
single thing: The Israeli people must rally as one.

[Interviewer] You are talking about an emergency government.

[Ben Eliezer] That's what I have been saying all along: A national
emergency government. That's what I have been screaming from
the rooftops for almost two weeks.

BBC Monitoring, based in Caversham in southern England, selects
and translates information from radio, television, press, news
agencies and the Internet from 150 countries in more than 70
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[CTRL] Iraq moving forces West


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Thursday, October 12 2000 21:20
14 Tishri 5761


(20:05) Report: Iraq moving forces West
There are unconfirmed reports from the US State Department  that
Iraq has begun to move military forces to the west. CNN says that
the Hammurabi Brigade, under the control of the Republican Guard,
was moved.
During the Gulf war crisis in 1991, Israel  made it clear to the Iraqi
government that any troop movement westward toward Jordan and
Israel would be considered tantamount to an act of war.


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just that all conspiracy theories about them
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[CTRL] Militant Yemeni Group Claims Responsibility for Warship Attack


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  CNS: Foreign
Bureaus
Time: 7:27 PM,Thursday, October 12, 2000

Militant Yemeni Group Claims Responsibility for Warship Attack
By Patrick Goodenough
CNS London Bureau Chief
October 12, 2000
 London (CNSNews.com) - A Muslim leader in Britain with links to
the Saudi-born terror chief Osama bin Laden said Thursday a
Yemeni Islamist group has claimed responsibility for the suicide
attack on an American warship in the Yemeni port of Aden, and
has promised more strikes.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, a Syrian-born activist and judge of
the UK Shari'a [Islamic law] Court, said in an exclusive telephone
interview with CNSNews.com that he had received a communique
from a group calling itself the "Army of Mohammed" and the "Army
of Aden-Abyan," saying it had carried out the assault.
Bakri welcomed the attack, and said all American and Israeli
buildings and forces, anywhere in the world, were legitimate targets.
At least four American servicemen died when a small, explosives-
laden rubber raft rammed into port-side hull of the destroyer, USS
Cole. The death toll was later revised to five.
Bakri said the Arabic-language communique, from a group calling
itself the "Army of Mohammed/Army of Aden-Abyan" was now
being translated and circulated among various parties to establish
whether it was legitimate.
The document said the bombing was "not the first and not the
last," he added.
Bakri said he knew of the group, although he did not know the
people involved personally. He confirmed that Yemen is one of the
countries to which he has sent British Muslim recruits for jihad
[holy war] training abroad.
On October 2 Bakri issued a fatwa (religious ruling) calling on
Muslims to attack Israeli targets, including embassies, airports,
institutions and security forces, in response to the violence in the
Middle East.
The ruling also said: "Islam obliges us to liberate all Muslim land
from occupiers whoever they may be whether American, Jewish
Israeli or other forces."
Bakri has in the past issued statements supportive of terrorism,
including the 1998 bombing of American embassies in East Africa.
He has frequently expressed support for bin Laden, the prime
suspect in the embassy bombings.
Yemeni Militants
According to an article in the Yemen Times last month, the "Army
of Aden-Abyan" was set up in 1997 and had been involved in the
kidnappings of westerners. Aden-Abyan is a district in Yemen.
The same article stated that bin Laden was "considered to be the
supporter as well as the supervisor" of the jihad movement in
Yemen.
Last year's U.S. State Department report on global terrorism refers
to an "Islamic Army of Aden," one of whose leaders was executed
last year after being convicted of the 1998 kidnapping of 16 western
tourists, including two Americans.
The Israeli-based Institute for Counter-Terrorism, reporting on the
same incident, called the group the "Aden-Abyan Islamic Army."
A report on the ICT website, by U.S. Mideast Affairs specialist
Kenneth Katzman, says: "Little is known about the group, but it
advocates the imposition of Islamic law in Yemen and the lifting of
international sanctions against Iraq, and opposes the use of
Yemeni ports and bases by U.S. other Western countries."
The London Times reported in January 1999 that American
suspicions of links between Yemen militants and bin Laden could,
if confirmed, result in the U.S. and Britain reconsidering plans to
use Aden as an important refueling station.
Paul Beaver, spokesman for the UK-based Jane's Defense Weekly,
said Thursday that bin Laden has been criticizing the Yemen
government in recent days for not taking a tougher line with the
U.S. over the violence in Israel and the PA self-rule areas.
He said there were a number of possible perpetrators of Thursday's
strike.
"Osama bin Laden is a possibility, the new PLO faction [Tanzim],
Hamas, Hizballah, anyone really. A lot of people have a few
grievances at the moment."
Along with other Arab and Muslim countries, Yemen has been the
scene of massive protest demonstrations since the outbreak of
violence in Israel a fortnight ago.
In the capital Sanaa, demonstrators last weekend marched to the
American Embassy where they delivered a letter condemning the
U.S. policy with regard to Israel and the Palestinians.
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh told a television station in the
United Arab Emirates that he wished that Yemen was a country
neighboring the PA areas," the Yemen Times reported this week.
If it was, he said, Yemen "would have opened the borders before
the Palestinian mujahidin [fighters] and supplied the Palestinian
people with weapons to force that entity [Israel] to recognize the
Palestinian rights by force."
Beaver said the USS Cole, an Arleigh Burke class destroyer, was
"one of the latest American warships, designed to withstand
saturation attacks by Russian aircraft and all sorts of things. It's
not designed for asymmetrical warfare," he said, adding that no
warships were. "It's not

[CTRL] British tag is 'coded racism'


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British tag is 'coded racism'


Special report: race issues in the UK
Alan Travis, home affairs editor
Guardian
Wednesday October 11, 2000
The term "British" has racial connotations and will no longer serve
as a description of the UK's multicultural society, says a report by
an influential think-tank launched today.
Its conclusion that the UK should be formally recognised as a
multicultural society whose history needs to be "revised, rethought
or jettisoned" yesterday attracted fierce criticism from Conservative
MPs who said it was an affront to the "native British" who needed
to stand up for themselves. But Labour ministers have promised to
study its findings in detail and are likely to give it a warm welcome.
The Runnymede Trust-sponsored Commission into the Future of
Multi-ethnic Britain whose report is to be launched by the home
secretary, Jack Straw, also suggests it is time to review the
privileged position of the Anglican church in public life and to take
measures to boost the number of black and Asian faces in
parliament.
But it is a short section on "the future of Britishness" in the 400-
page report which has sparked most controversy. The report of the
commission, chaired by Lord Parekh, Labour peer and political
scientist, says devolution, the Good Friday agreement and
globalisation have undermined the notion of Britishness.
It rejects "Englishness" as alternative: "To be English, as the term
is in practice used, is to be white. Britishness is not ideal, but at
least it appears acceptable, particularly when suitably qualified -
Black British, Indian British, British Muslim and so on.
"However, there is one major and so far insuperable barrier.
Britishness, as much as Englishness, has systematic largely
unspoken, racial con notations. Whiteness nowhere features as an
explicit condition of being British, but it is widely understood that
Englishness, and therefore by extension Britishness is racially
coded.
"There ain't no black in the union jack," it has been said, quotes
the report, which says there is an assumption that whiteness and
Britishness go together like roast beef and yorkshire pudding.
The failure to include in the national curriculum a rewritten history
of Britain as an imperial force involving dominance in Ireland, Africa,
the Caribbean and Asia, is proving to be an unmitigated disaster,
the report claims. It argues that racial and cultural differences have
been symbolically "written out of the national story". The wide-
ranging report also calls for the establishment of a human rights
commission, for action on discriminatory police stop and search
policies and for the scrapping of the voucher system for asylum
seekers.
It says it is also time to review the connections between church
and state. Such a review would have to look at how other religions
are discriminated against in "customs related to civic religion, for
example daily prayers at Westminster and various religious
ceremonies, including memorial events, in local government; the
law of blasphemy; and the coronation oath".
Gerald Howarth, the Tory MP for Aldershot and a member of the
Commons home affairs select committee, claimed the report
represented social engineering on a massive scale. "It is an
extraordinary affront to the 94% of the population which is not from
ethnic minorities. The native British must stand up for themselves."
Lord Tebbit, the former Tory party chairman, claimed the greatest
conflicts in the world were the product of multicultural societies
such as Yugoslavia, Sri Lanka and the former Soviet Union.
"Since no one is being held hostage in this kingdom and those who
arrived recently have come to get away from their own countries
and enjoy the benefits of this country, the best way forward is
integration rather than separation into cultural ghettoes."

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[CTRL] U.S. Watching Iraq Troop Movements Closely


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Thursday October 12  7:56 PM ET
U.S. Watching Iraq Troop Movements Closely

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary William Cohen said
on Thursday the United States was watching current Iraqi troop
movements but there were no signs of an immediate threat from
President Saddam Hussein.
Cohen told a news conference called over the attack on a U.S.
gunship in Yemen that Iraqi troops had been identified moving in
western Iraq, adding that this was also a training cycle for the Iraqi
military.
``We are watching it very closely, because of the ambiguity of the
situation, to make sure that Saddam is not using any training cycle
in order to take advantage of any developments in the Middle East
or elsewhere,'' Cohen said.
``But we have not seen any specific move that would indicate he
intends to cause any major controversy.''
White House spokesman Jake Siewert said later that the United
States would be prepared to act if Iraq threatens its neighbors or
U.S. forces.
``As we all know, Saddam Hussein is capable of stooping to any
level,'' Siewert told reporters. ``And he has demonstrated he'll try to
capitalize on the violence in Israel and the territories to try to
advance his own agenda.''
``If he does intend something more menacing, we've made it very
clear that if Iraq threatens its neighbors or U.S. forces,we maintain
a credible force in the region, and are prepared to use it at a time
and place of our own choosing.''
Earlier, U.S. defense officials, who asked not to be identified, said
U.S. intelligence had detected the movement by the Hammurabi
Division, composed of about 15,000 Special Republican Guard
troops, within the past 24 hours.
The Pentagon (news - web sites), worried that Iraq's President
might make a disruptive strike against dissident Kurds in northern
Iraq in advance of next month's U.S. presidential election, has
repeatedly warned Saddam against taking such a step.
Some fear Saddam might want to spring a so-called ``October
surprise'' which heightens tensions in the Middle East and drives
up the oil price in the crucial weeks ahead of the Nov.7 election.
Defense Department officials have said in recent public briefings
that the U.S. military has seen no major or threatening movement
of Iraqi troops in the past month or so.
In 1991 U.S.-led coalition forces drove Iraq from Kuwait after its
invasion of the oil-rich state in 1990. Baghdad has been under U.N.
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[CTRL] Serb Ostrich Revolution Was Anything But Spontaneous

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From Truth In Media
 BELGRADE, Oct. 10 - The Serb ostrich revolution that followed the Yugoslav electoral demo farce, and culminated in the Oct. 5 storming and partial burning of the Yugoslav parliament, was about as spontaneous as the Rose Bowl or May Day parades.  It was anything but spontaneous.
Nor was it carried out by the Belgrade residents, as it appeared to viewers around the world who watched the TV images of the storming of the Yugoslav parliament.  It was a carefully planned and staged show, carried out by well paid mercenaries brought in from Serbias interior, with the western black ops directors pulling their strings from the background, and greasing their palms.
One of the leaders of such democratic mercenaries was Velimir Ilic, the mayor of Cacak, a small town in Central Serbia, some 60 miles south of Belgrade.   Ilic, who was swept into power in the 1996 local elections, is member of Vuk Draskovics pro-western Serbian Renewal Movement (a Serb political party).
In an unusually candid interview with the New York Times, which ran in the dailys Oct. 9 issue under the headline, How Small Town Turned Out for Kostunica at a Key Time, this boastful democratic Cacak Stormtrooper gushed out gobs of new details that confirmed what we have been saying all along - that the entire Kostunica election-revolution show was a bought and paid for by the West charade.
Here are some excerpts from the Times report (also, see the photos at our web site):


It was personal contribution from Cacak, said Mr. Ilic, 49, a broad-shouldered, energetic man who led 10,000 people from his town 60 miles north to Belgrade He rallied a 12-mile- long columns of cars and trucks, and set off from Cacak at 7:30 in the morning for Belgrade He had organized a core team of tough young men, and crucially, off-duty members of the police and the army, he said.


They took bulldozers and trucks to help break though police barricades, and in case they needed to build their own barricades.  For weapons, they took three truckloads of stones


Mr. Ilic said: We established a team of young professionals, paratroopers from the Yugoslav Army and young policemen, and we coordinated this with the most elite units in the Interior Ministry Police in Belgrade.  We got martial arts experts and professional boxers to join us.  We even had plainclothes police coordinating with nearby towns.


He said his personal agreement with two special policemen in Belgrade, and two from Cacak, had caused major elements of the police in the capital to join the side of the demonstrators. As several hundred thousand people converged in front of the Parliament at 3 p.m., and started to clash with police, his contacts refused orders to move against the demonstrators.
--- TiM Ed.: Let us recap, Ilics  team of tough, young professionals paratroopers elite special police martial art experts boxers lead an assault on the Parliament and on the state-owned Serb TV building (only a few hundred yards away, where they actually did se bulldozers - see th photo at our web site).
Is that the image of democracy that conjured up in your mind when a jubilant Bill Clinton congratulated Vojislav Kostunica a day later on a historic victory of democracy?  It sure didnt in this writers head.  But that is evidently the face of the Klinton democracy.  Weve seen a glimpse of it in Seattle last December (see Toward a New Multipolar World in the New Millennium - Dec. 17, 1999).  How long before such Klinton democracy becomes pervasive in the U.S., too?
But back to Serbia and Ilic Weve highlighted the term professionals above.  Unlike the hundreds of thousands of Belgrade amateur revolutionaries, who were mere extras in this Washington/EU-staged Wag the Dog-style revolution, professionals are people who get paid for what they do.  Someone also had to pay for fuel used by that 12-mile column of bulldozers, cars and trucks in a country impoverished by the sanctions and under an oil embargo.  Finally, police are not exactly know for standing down and refusing orders unless their palms had been greased beforehand.
So who paid all these people them off, and where did the money come from?  We suspect that you already know the answer (see Washington Funds Serb Opposition, Sep. 19).  But well let a member of the Yugoslav parliament (MP) answer it in more details.  Heres an excerpt from a speech Dragan Todorovic, a Serb Radical Party MP, gave on Oct. 7 in Belgrade, during the proceedings that led to the swearing in of Yugoslavias new president, Vojislav Kostunica:


DEMOLITION OF SERBIA


It was on October 5, that we only realized what DOS (TiM Ed.: Democratic Opposition of Serbia) really stood for - "DEMOLITION OF SERBIA"!


What happened in Belgrade on October 5, unlike what major news agencies explained - was not a display of democracy - by it's display, it was an act of shear vandalism. By it's consequences and methods -

[CTRL] Dial 911 and Die


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http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID
=1461

Dial 911 and
Die

by Robert A. Waters

I recently conducted an online
interview with Richard Stevens, Attorney at Law, author of "Dial 911
and
Die." The book was published by Mazel Freedom Press, Inc., in
1999. Go to http://www.jpfo.org/dial911anddie.htm
if you'd like
more information about this book.
To say that "Dial 911 and Die" is one of the most important pro-
freedom books of the year is an understatement.
In the interview, Stevens wrote, "When it comes to self-defense,
people
must not give up their personal right to arms to the same
government that owes
them no duty of self-protection." And that is the premise of the
book--hundreds of court cases have established the principle that
law
enforcement agencies do not exist to protect individuals. Therefore,
Stevens
argues, it is criminal for cities, states, and the Federal government
to pass
gun control laws which take away the individual's right to protect
himself or herself.
Stevens graduated magna cum laude from the University of San
Diego School of
Law. He taught for several years at the law schools of George
Washington
University and George Mason University. Currently, he specializes
in preparing
trial court motions and appellate court briefs in Washington, D. C. Stevens is
also Editor of the Firearms Sentinel, a publication of Jews
for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
RW -- Do you think the average
American realizes that most law enforcement agencies cannot be successfully
sued?
RS -- Many people have never thought about it. That is why it shocks most people
to learn this truth, and sometimes it takes a while for the enormity of the
facts to set in.
RW -- I look at your book as a wake-up call to America. If government can't
protect citizens, we have to protect ourselves. Do you agree?
RS -- I agree, but I put it the other way around. We have the right and duty to
protect ourselves and our loved ones. The police cannot guarantee our safety,
and they often cannot prevent crimes. Meanwhile, the law says the police don't
have to protect us as individuals.
RW -- I like the fact that you used real-life stories to illustrate points you
wished to make. How did you locate the cases you wrote about?
RS -- There are two main sources of the law: the statutes enacted by state
legislatures, and state appellate court decisions. There are standard references
and legal encyclopedias that I used to get started. From the standard references, the 
legal encyclopedias and digests of cases, I located the court
cases.
After reading the cases, I used the Shepard's Citations books to discover
whether the cases were still in force or had been reversed or overturned. If the
cases are still valid statements of law, then they were used in the book.
RW -- Which cases affected you most (of those you wrote about)?
RS -- Hartzler vs. City of San Jose (California). This one completely shocked
me. In law school, we had been learning how manufacturers owe legal duties to
buyers of products to be sure the products are safe; how landlords owe legal
duties to tenants to protect them from foreseeable criminal attacks; and how
homeowners owe legal duties to make sure that visitors don't trip and fall on
their property.
Then we turned the page and found that governments owe no legal duty to do the
one thing that you'd think they are supposed to do: protect citizens from
criminal attack.
Another case that really bothered me was the DeShaney Case in Wisconsin. The
county welfare authorities placed a young boy with an abusive father who
tortured and beat him until he was permanently mentally damaged and had to be 
institutionalized. There were lots of warning signs and the county case worker
saw tons of evidence that the child was being abused, yet the case worker failed
to intervene. The Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution does not require states to 
protect their citizens, such as this young boy.
While I have to agree with the court's decision on strict legal grounds in this
case, I was horrified by the larger moral issue: why can the government agency
charged with protecting children escape legal liability for failing to carry out
that duty--when a homeowner can be successfully sued if a would-be burglar trips
and falls on the owner's property?
In another case, Ford vs. Town of Grafton (Massachusetts), a woman got a
restraining order to protect herself from a crazed violent ex-boyfriend. But the
police didn't enforce it and the boyfriend attacked her and nearly killed her.
This case is particularly appalling because the police actually advised the woman to 
"get a gun" since they couldn't protect her. The court in
that rabidly anti-firearms state later used the "get a gun" warning
against her. The court said that the police adequately warned her and therefore
had no duty to protect her.
RW -- At the end of the book, you've included a chapter entitled,
"Forty-five stories with a happy

[CTRL] FW: Beware of These 8 Fallacies in Tonight's Debate

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Beware of These 8 Fallacies in Tonight's Debate
By Harry Browne
Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Tonight George W. Bush and Al Gore square off in their second debate.
They will argue over many things. But underlying their arguments will be many false assumptions. Since the assumptions are wrong, their proposals are meaningless, and you should be forewarned.
Here are 8 such fallacies . . .
The Budget Surplus
Fallacy #1: "There is a budget surplus."
Each candidate will tell you how he plans to use the surplus -- proposing a combination of tax cuts, new spending programs, paying down the national debt, saving Social Security, and so on. But there is no surplus, and so all those plans are meaningless.
Here are the federal budgets for the past ten years:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Federal Budget, 1991-2000
Please click on this link to see the chart: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/20001011_xchbr_brown egraph1.gif< (All figures in this article are taken from the August issue of Economic Indicators, a monthly publication of the Joint Economic Committee of Congress.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The deficits are shrinking, but there still is no surplus. The Social Security receipts are larger than Social Security payments, and the excess is being lent to the general fund to create a phony surplus. Ignored in any discussion of the "surplus" is the fact that the overall federal debt continues to rise year by year.
Neither Al Gore nor George Bush will say "When we have a surplus;" he'll act as though the surplus already exists. So you shouldn't pay any attention to what he plans to do with the surplus.
If either of them really wanted to generate a true budget surplus, he'd propose reductions in government spending. But only a Libertarian President is likely to do that.
Social Security
Fallacy #2: "We are saving Social Security."
Whatever plan Mr. Bush or Mr. Gore offers to make Social Security safe, it's a misrepresentation. You can't save something while you're stealing from it. Since all the excess Social Security receipts are being used to paper over the deficit in the general fund, there's no cash in the Social Security Trust Fund for future payments.
When Social Security payments begin to exceed receipts in a few years, money from the general budget will have to pay off the IOUs held by Social Security. But the politicians will have used up the phony "surplus" with spending increases and tax cuts.
Social Security will be "saved" or reformed only when it's taken completely away from the politicians, and you're allowed to keep the money yourself -- to do with as you think best.
That's why a vote for a Republican or a Democrat is truly a wasted vote. Only Libertarians are proposing that you should be completely free from Social Security.
Welfare Reform
Fallacy #3: "Welfare reform was a great triumph."
Both major parties are trying to take credit for the welfare reform program the Republican Congress passed and the Democratic President approved. They want you to believe that this "reform" has reduced considerably the terrible burden of welfare spending.
But here's what the federal government has spent on welfare over the past ten years:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Welfare spending, 1991-2000
YearWelfare Spending* 1991 170 1992 197 1993 207 1994 214 1995 221 1996 226 1997 231 1998 233 1999 238 2000 253
* In billions of dollars. (All figures in this article are taken from the August issue of Economic Indicators, a monthly publication of the Joint Economic Committee of Congress.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Oh yes, you've heard that the number of welfare recipients has declined. But politicians don't stop spending money on a shrinking program. In fact, in many parts of America, federal, state, and local governments are _advertising_ for new welfare recipients.
Welfare must be taken completely out of the hands of the federal government. Otherwise, the politicians will continue to defraud you and take your money.
Tax Cuts
Fallacy #4: "My tax cuts will save you money."
Between the general fund and Social Security, the politicians have budgeted $1.8 trillion in expenditures for the 2000 fiscal year. (The 2001 budget will be even larger.)
Who's going to pay the $1.8 trillion? The Russians? The Martians?
Of course not. You and I and almost every other American will have to cough up $1.8 trillion for that obscene budget.
Unless there is a decrease in spending, any "tax cut" simply rearranges the burden of big government; it doesn't reduce it. "Tax cuts" are a shell game, pure and simple.
Neither candidate is proposing to reduce government spending. Neither one has called for the elimination (or even reduction) of any government program, department, or agency. Quite the contrary, both Mr. Bush and Mr. Gore are proposing to increase the size,

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