[CTRL] Bush's Epitaph?
-Caveat Lector- January 10, 2003 Behind the Power Curve: Bush's Epitaph? Lost in the Folds of Iraq and North Korea By BILL CHRISTISONformer CIA political analyst A few decades ago, a cliché invaded Washington's bureaucracies. It was a cliché that many of us self-decreed sophisticates in the U.S. foreign-policy establishment came to use, and then shamelessly overuse, to belittle anyone (sometimes a superior, more often a competitor in another agency) who happened to disagree with the one's own views. Low-voiced comments about this or that #$* SOB being "way behind the power curve" filtered into government conference rooms, dining rooms, and even hallways. Until it succumbed to parody from the crescendo of overuse, this was truly a multi-purpose cliché. It sounded so good that some of us would, pompously and with just the right profession of cynicism and self-deprecation, apply it in a less insulting way to ourselves. As in, "We can't afford to fall behind the power curve on this one [i.e., any issue that seemed important at the moment], so here's what I think we ought to do." The "power curve" itself normally went undefined, but the very word "power" elicited, as was intended, knowing nods and narrowed eyes suggesting that most users or hearers of the cliché, at least those who valued their positions in the bureaucracy, wished to be seen as hard pragmatists with a lesser interest in "unrealistic" ethics, morals, or principles. Not surprisingly, the dominance of this cliché coincided with the early 1970s, the last years of the Nixon administration. Today there are grounds for hope that the Bush administration itself is already falling irretrievably behind the power curve of its own amoral and unprincipled pragmatism. The immediate reason for such hope arises from the embarrassment and bumbling inside the administration over the inconsistencies between U.S. policies toward Iraq on the one hand and toward North Korea on the other. We need to look at recent history to see why recent events concerning North Korea, assuming they are ultimately resolved without an East Asian nuclear holocaust, should be seen as a positive development by those of us who want peace and justice in the Middle East as well as in East Asia in the next few decades, rather than more wars initiated by the United States. Early in 2001, far-right, hawkish, and violence-prone governments took power at roughly the same time in both the U.S. and Israel. The leaders of the two new governments had already developed a very good personal and political chemistry with each other. The events of September 11 further strengthened the ties between them as they became ever-firmer allies in the War on Terrorism and quickly agreed on each other's highly selective definitions of who were terrorists and evil-doers (and who were not). A few months later, Bush lumped Iraq, Iran, and North Korea into an Axis of Evil in his January 2002 state-of-the-union address to Congress. Then, egged on by Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and a small but very influential group of pro-Likud neo-cons scattered through the administration, as well as by U.S. Christian fundamentalist leaders who solidly support both Bush's and the Sharon government's present policies, the president spent much of the year 2002 ratcheting up the pressures for war against Iraq. Actually, the neo-con officials in the U.S. and Likud leaders in Israel have been pressing for the ouster of the present Iraqi government for the past decade. On the issue of Iraq, disagreement within the administration, largely from Secretary of State Powell and a few former officials like Brent Scowcroft, has slowed the Bush drive toward war since the early fall of 2002. But so far at least, Powell has been willing to confront Bush only on the issue of unilateralism. Right now, the odds on what will happen over the next month or two run something like this. First, there is a tiny chance that in response to a low-key Arab campaign, Saddam Hussein will take up a proposal that he resign and accept sanctuary in some Arab land. The U.S. conceivably could then decide it was impossible to go to war. Not a good bet. Second, a larger but still pretty minuscule chance exists that a successful coup attempt against Saddam will take place and bring about regime change, thus putting off at least temporarily Washington's need for war. Third, a considerably greater but still less than fifty-fifty chance exists that the current inspection scenario will play out to an impasse in which so many of the nations now on the U.N. Security Council will refuse to support the U.S., and Colin Powell will oppose Bush so strongly, that Bush himself will back off and at least postpone a war for some months or an entire year. Fourth and most likely (here the odds are definitely greater then fifty-fifty), the Bush administration will start a war against Iraq in the
Re: [CTRL] This One Won't Hunt
-Caveat Lector- She has a mansion just down the road here in Dorset she is selling it because she cant cope with people tramping up and down the lanes at the back of it.Why is it that as soon as someone becomes famous they start acting like the hoi polloi. The Mermaid - Original Message - From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:29 PM Subject: [CTRL] This One Won't Hunt -Caveat Lector- Madonna reportedly fed up with English way of life January 6 2003 US pop star Madonna, who ascended into Britain's high society with her marriage to film director Guy Ritchie, said she is fed up with everything that is English, according to a British press report. The 44-year-old vegetarian and yoga convert, thinks hunting game and deer is barbaric, and so much so, that she will no longer tolerate 34-year-old husband Guy's involvement in the sport at their home in Wiltshire, south-west England. The deeper problem however, according to the Daily Mail, is that Madonna's love affair with the English way of life is coming to an end. She hates the weather, the people, and above all hunting, the report said, and besides, Guy's hunting parties with his friends are too buddyish for her. Madonna, who was enthusiastic at first, fitted herself out from head-to-toe in traditional tweeds, a hunting cap and rubber boots but later told her husband why he should retreat from the sport. Her decision was made on the basis of protecting the souls of the poor birds who were being shot. But according to the Mail, Madonna only came to this realisation after her own shooting abilities proved to be a total flop. DPA This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/05/1041566307302.html A:E:R ~~~ Forwarded as information only; everything sent has to stand on its own merits, not on my recommendation. Dissenting ideas are the health of the American system. A:E:R + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + War is the health of the state. It automatically sets in motion throughout society these irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense. RANDOLPH BOURNE (1886-1918) in War and the Intellectuals + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http
Re: [CTRL] why is it that so many politicians are ALSO lawyers?
-Caveat Lector- In this country they become politicians because it is a nice little sideline to the law work they carry out its all part of the Old boys network anyway their CV would not get them a job in the real world! The Mermaid - Original Message - From: David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: [CTRL] why is it that so many politicians are ALSO lawyers? -Caveat Lector- why is it that so many politicians are ALSO lawyers? How can a pregnant woman tell that she's carrying a future lawyer? She has an uncontrollable craving for baloney. * * * * * * * How does an attorney sleep? First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other. * * * * * * * How many lawyer jokes are there? Only three. The rest are true stories. * * * * * * * How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb? How many can you afford? * * * * * * * If a lawyer and an IRS agent were both drowning, and you could save only one of them, would you go to lunch or read the paper? * * * * * * * What did the lawyer name his daughter? Sue. * * * * * * * What do you call a lawyer gone bad? Senator. * * * * * * * What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50? Your Honor. * * * * * * * What do you get when you cross a bad politician with a crooked lawyer? Chelsea Clinton. * * * * * * * What do you throw to a drowning lawyer? His partners. * * * * * * * What does a lawyer use for birth-control? His personality. * * * * * * * What's the difference between a lawyer and a vulture? The lawyer gets frequent flyer miles. * * * * * * What's another difference between a lawyer and a vulture? Removable wing tips. * * * * * * * What's the difference between God and a lawyer? God doesn't think he's a lawyer. * * * * * * * * Why does California have the most lawyers in the country and New Jersey have the most toxic waste sites? New Jersey got first choice. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This is disgusting
-Caveat Lector- Login or Register | Headlines | Emailed News Monday 2 December 2002 Telegraph Network Network home Arts Books Business news Crossword Society Education Family Fantasy football Fashion Gardening Horoscopes Health Jobs Law reports Letters Feedback Mobile Services Money Motoring News Obituaries Opinion Outdoors Personal finance Promotions Property Reader offers Science Shopping Sport Technology Travel Weather Wine Business file Connected Global network Internet for schools Juiced Matt cartoon Alex cartoon telegraph.co.uk News home Business news Crossword Society Feedback Law reports Matt cartoon Obituaries Opinion Weather War on terrorism About us Contact us Palestinian olive trees sold to rich IsraelisBy Alan Philps in Jerusalem(Filed: 28/11/2002) Israel's Defence Ministry is investigating reports that Palestinian olive trees uprooted to make way for a security fence are being sold illegally to rich Israelis and town councils, sometimes for thousands of pounds each. The illegal trade in olive trees has flourished as Israeli contractors, supported by armed guards, clear Palestinian agricultural land where an 80-mile electronic fence is being built to seal off the West Bank. Thousands of olive trees have been dug up to make way for the 150-ft wide barrier and security zone. Its route usually passes inside Palestinian territory, not along the old pre-1967 border, and thousands of Palestinian farmers say their livelihood is being taken away. Sale of the olive trees emerged after the owner of a contracting company offered two reporters from a popular Israeli newspaper, Yedioth Ahronoth, 100 large olive trees for £150 each. The reporters found one enormous tree, said to be 600 years old, on sale at an Israeli plant nursery for £3,500. They said the trade was conducted with the complicity of an official in the civil administration, the Israeli military government in the occupied territories. Olive trees are extremely hardy, can live for hundreds of years and will often stand transplanting. Gnarled old specimens which are claimed, with some exaggeration, to have been alive at the time of Jesus are much sought after for gardens of the rich or city parks. The Defence Ministry, which is in charge of the security fence, said it had launched an investigation. "The ministry pays contractors for uprooting and replanting and, in their contract, there is no clause that allows for trade in the trees. If there is such a trade, it is a criminal activity," it said. Some contracts require the olive trees to be relocated to areas suggested by their owners outside the Israeli-declared security zone. But Yael Stein, researcher for B'tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, said: "We have never seen any relocation. The contractors cannot just sell the trees. That is theft." While the trees may be ornaments to Israelis, olives are the lifeblood of Palestinian agriculture, almost the only crop which grows on the stony hillsides of the West Bank without irrigation. Most Palestinians are unemployed
[CTRL] dont forget the leonids in america tonight
-Caveat Lector- dont forget to watch out for the leonids tonight in america and canada it promises to be good we cant see anything here in england yet but the best will be at 2am if i can stay awake that long:) The Mermaid x A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Britain
-Caveat Lector- Well first of all it has to be said that Britiains press have had a field day last week in the press and it does not look like it will abate. What a good time for the british government to bury bad news! But watch out America it is coming your way as Mr Burrell butler to the late Diana Princess of Wales tells his story as I gather he is in New York and you or some of you cannot help put turn on the TV to listen to the revelations...we are all human after all and no one is past listening to a bit of scandal to remove us from the daily plod of life. BUT remove all the sordid details and look at the main item and that is for the first time in british history the Queen stepped in and stopped a trial by a wave of the royal wand.This is absolutely unbelievable..so ask your self Why would she do this?Are the royal family tying to cover up something that has happened in the past that Diana knew or that the butler knew? Did she do it of her own free will or was she told to do it? Certainly by the allegations of rape in the royal household now emerging one would think so but I think not...There is probably something bigger yet to come I also believe the republicans have much to do with this and that Mr Blair by his unprecedented leaking of what was to be given in her speech (The Observer on Sunday) in the opening of the houses of parliament was a warning to her majesty to watch her back. If MI5 have been listening on Royal conversations for the last 20 years and remember who they work for.then my guess is this is a warning shot accross her majesties bows (to put it in nautical terms) If the queen in her weekly chats with the primeminister has even suggested that this war on iraq is not acceptable then she is in deep shit! And the shit has hit the fan in the way of a wake up call There is something very dark going on in british politics at the moment and it aint anything to do with what the butler saw The Mermaid England xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Global elite Dead?
-Caveat Lector- The Final Death Throes of the Global Elite by Paul Wilson NOTE: This article was first published in Australias Mandurah Telegraph newspaper on Tuesday, October 15, 2002. They can be reached via e-mail at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sir/Madam, What we are witnessing now on the world scene are the last final death throes of the Global Elite, Controllers, Illuminati or call them what you will. For many years these evil people (a handful of wealthy-beyond-belief families based mainly in Europe) have manipulated mankind for their own ends through their control of the banking system, military, oil and media interests, and have placed puppet politicians in power (dont kid yourself that we have a choice, for both sides are party to this status quo) to further their nefarious ends. Bush, Blair, and Howard are all exactly that puppets of the Elite carrying out the wishes of their Controllers behind the scenes. Another war, more indebtedness by taxpayers to the Elite bankers to fund more military hardware (Bush has said the war with Iraq will cost $200 billion), and more control over humanity with further loss of individual freedoms. A U.S. victory in Iraq will mean access to $6 trillion worth of oil in the Caspian Basin for the Illuminati-controlled oil companies. Bush couldnt care less about Saddam or the Iraqi people. Weapons of mass destruction (that dont exist) are just an excuse to start a war for control of this oil. However this is the final showdown, the titanic struggle to impose a New World Order, but this time humanity must, and will, win. The truth of this will be revealed to us all very soon. Fortunately there are a lot of altruistic individuals working at all levels in many countries to bring down these Controllers, not least in the upper hierarchy of the American Military, a few honest Congressmen, and others in the Judiciary and Executive who know whats really going on. What is slowing down this disclosure of the truth is the Elite control of the media that refuses to reveal the cover-up of what is really happening. In the U.S. only five companies run all radio, TV and print media! Keeping us all in the dark is easy. But, rest assured, this mind-boggling truth WILL be revealed in the not too distant future to the enormous benefit of mankind around the world. We have been manipulated for far too long and now it will be humanitys turn to enjoy freedom from the worldwide oppression that these evil Controllers impose. The individual is not handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972. But exist it does, though not for much longer. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Philadelphia experiment
-Caveat Lector- The Philadelphia Experiment by Joe Turner One of the A E Channel's investigative TV programs has now found the tables turned on it in the most ironic fashion. "The Unexplained," a Sightings/Unsolved Mysteries knock-off that deals with the paranormal and mysterious, has been the focus of an investigation led by one of its past experts. The findings of this investigation, conducted by a real life "Fox Mulder," firmly place "The Unexplained" episode, "Strange Disappearances" in the same context as the Hitler Diaries and CNN's recent news debacle on nerve gassing Viet Nam deserters. Like the CNN Viet Nam story, the episode dealt with a military operation - a test in WWII that would have been the latest development in a long history of military camouflage. Total optical and radar invisibility - the Philadelphia Experiment. "...men caught fire, went mad, and - the most bizarre of all, some were embedded halfway into the deck of the ship. Others phased in and out of this reality..." Much has been written and speculated about this legend of an experiment in "electronic camouflage," both pro and con. Reportedly it ended with the ship teleporting from Philadelphia to Norfolk with some crew members becoming embedded in the ship. Sorting the facts from the fiction has proven an almost impossible task, particularly with the recent flux of misinformation and deliberate disinformation that has been injected into the Internet by those connected to the U.S. intelligence community, professional skeptics, and armchair researchers. Against this confusing tapestry there have been a few constants. One is that Carlos Miguel Allende claimed in the 1950s to have been a witness to a test at sea of a ship being made optically invisible using strong electromagnetic force fields when he was a sailor onboard the merchant marine vessel SS Furuseth in 1943. He also claimed that during another test that went wrong, some of the men caught fire, went mad, and - the most bizarre of all, some were embedded halfway into the deck of the ship. Others phased in and out of this reality, only kept here by the laying on of hands. Allende wrote a series of strange letters in 1955 to Morris K. Jessup, a researcher who had written the book "The Case for the UFO." It was Allende's fear that the same technology that was responsible for the disasters of the Philadelphia Experiment was the secret behind the propulsion method used successfully by UFOs. Jessup had called for research into such force fields of UFOs without having any knowledge of the navy experiment, and this alarmed Allende. The Eldridge was the ship used in the controversial experiment in 1943. Allende's letters were filled with cryptic references and mailed from an assortment of locales around America. They can be read on-line at www.wincom.net/~softarts/PHILEXP/CM_ALLEN.TXT. Jessup eventually dismissed Allende as a crank until 1957 when he was contacted by Capt. Sidney Sherby and Comdr. George Hoover, two officers from the Office of Naval Research. They had received a copy of Jessup's book with strange annotations in the margins about a vanishing ship, aliens and other anomalies. The officers from ONR asked Jessup to travel to Washington D.C. to meet with them and discuss what the annotations might mean. When Jessup got there he was surprised to see that the annotations appeared to be from Allende, although they had been written in three different colored inks as though three separate individuals had been writing comments. Jessup had no idea what to make of it and was a little unsettled by the interest that these ONR officers had in the writing, especially about the ship that was made invisible and it's crew severely injured. The officers even paid Varo Inc. to reprint copies of the annotated version of Jessup's book and had them passed around ONR for consideration. Jessup confided in his friend Ivan Sanderson that he felt the officers might want to try the experiment again. Meanwhile Jessup's life began to be plagued by what he called "strange coincidences." He began to complain about his health, and his research efforts took a turn for the worse. In 1959 he was found dead in his car from carbon monoxide poisoning and declared a suicide without the benefit of an autopsy. Many believe to this day that he was actually murdered, with Allende left roaming the country to escape the same fate. The Office of Naval Research has created a number of form "response" letters over the
[CTRL] Moneeeeeeee will buy you anything
-Caveat Lector-
Report From Iron Mountain
by Anonymous
In 1967 the war in Vietnam was escalating and race riots
were breaking out in many major U.S. cities. Popular distrust of the
federal government was growing. It was in this context that on October 16
a book appeared titled Report from Iron Mountain on the Possibility and
Desirability of Peace. It was published by Dial Press, a division of
Simon Schuster. Leonard C. Lewin, a New York freelance writer, wrote
the introduction to the book. He explained that the report had been
compiled by 15 experts known as the Special Study Group (SSG) who had been
brought together by the U.S. government. The SSG had first met in 1963 at
a secret "underground nuclear hideout" called Iron Mountain. They had then
held periodic meetings during the next two and a half years to discuss the
problems that would confront the United States if it entered into a period
of permanent peace. According to Lewin, one of the experts ("John Doe")
who was identified as a professor of social science at a 'large Middle
Western University,' had decided to release the report to the public.
The report, in language full of think-tank jargon, documented the
conclusions of the Special Study Group concerning whether peace was
possible given the economic condition of the world. The SSG decided that
peace "would almost certainly not be in the best interest of stable
society." War, they argued, was simply too important a part of the world
economy, and therefore it was necessary to continue a state of war
indefinitely: "War has provided both ancient and modern societies
with a dependable system for stabilizing and controlling national
economies. No alternate method of control has yet been tested in a complex
modern economy that has shown itself remotely comparable in scope or
effectiveness." The report also pointed out that the authority of
the government over the people stemmed from its ability to wage war.
Therefore, without war the government might cease to exist: "War
is virtually synonymous with nationhood. The elimination of war implies
the inevitable elimination of national sovereignty and the traditional
nation-state." The report included a number of recommendations
that the government should follow just in case peace did break out. For
instance, it suggested that a number of expensive institutions be created
that would mimic the economic function of a war, such as: "(a) A
comprehensive social-welfare program directed toward maximum improvement
of general conditions of human life. (b) A giant open-end space research
program aimed at unreachable targets. (c) A permanent, ritualized,
ultra-elaborate disarmament inspection system, and variant of such a
system." The report also recommended that the government invent
"alternate enemies." For instance, it could mobilize the population by
scaring them with reports of extraterrestrial threats, massive global
environmental pollution, or "an omnipresent, virtually omnipotent
international police force." Alternatively, the population could be roused
by "socially oriented blood games" done "in the manner of the Spanish
Inquisition and the witch trials of other periods." The publication of the
report caused a sensation. So many copies of it were sold that it made its
way onto the New York Times bestseller list, and it was eventually
translated into 15 languages. The report caused panic among many
government officials. President Johnson supposedly "hit the roof" when he
learned of it. Cables were sent to U.S. embassies throughout the world
instructing them to play down public discussion of the report, and to
emphasize that the report had nothing at all to do with official U.S.
policy. The media, meanwhile, frantically searched for and
speculated about who had written the report. On November 20 Eliot
Fremont-Smith wrote a review for the New York Times in which he declared
that the report was a hoax. He speculated that it had been written either
by John Kenneth Galbraith, Kenneth Boulding, or Leonard C. Lewin. However,
he had no evidence to prove his speculations. The suspicion that Galbraith
was the author stemmed from the fact that he had written a review of the
report under the pseudonym "Herschel McLandress". This review had appeared
in the Washington Post and the Chicago Tribune. Lewin was suspected
because besides having written the introduction to the report, he had also
authored a book of political satire. The mystery of who had
written the report was
[CTRL] Was RFK assassin brainwashed ????
-Caveat Lector- Was Robert Kennedy's Assassin Brainwashed? by Gordon Thomas NOTE: Seeds of Fire: China and The Story Behind the Attack on America is available from Dandelion Books www.dandelion.com California Supreme Court is considering ordering a new trial into one of the most sensational crimes in America the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy, brother of the murdered President, John F. Kennedy. The Court has been given explosive new testimony that Robert Kennedys assassin, Palestinian-born Sirhan Sirhan, was programmed through hypnosis and brainwashed to carry out the crime. A new trial will seriously embarrass both the CIA and FBI under increasing fire for the cover-up of their failure in last Septembers terror attacks. The most likely date for the trial would fall during President Bushs run-up to re-election. His own father was a Congressman during the murder of Robert Kennedy and later became CIA director. Its files on the assassination have never been made public. Sirhans attorney, Lawrence Teeter, a respected Civil Rights lawyer, has spent eight years gathering evidence which he described last week, virtually proves that powerful branches of the U.S. government were behind the murder. In an exclusive interview at his office on fashionable Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles, Teeter said: When a powerful branch of government commits such a murder it only makes sense if top people are involved. In the case of the programming of Sirhan, those involved, either directly or indirectly, are the Los Angeles police department, the FBI, and the CIA together with the Pentagon. There were good reasons for them to have wanted Robert Kennedy eliminated. He wanted to end the Vietnam War. He wanted to get to the bottom of his brothers assassination. He wanted to break the power of the Teamsters Union. He wanted to end the wild adventurism of the CIA, said Teeter. That adventurism included the notorious MK-ULTRA program designed by the CIA to see if it was feasible to use drugs and hypnosis to create a programmed assassin. Among the doctors secretly involved in the work was Dr. Louis West, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of California in Los Angeles and director of its Neuropsychiatric Institute. Wests work for the CIA included using hypnosis to try and program minds. But his case files were shredded in the wake of Robert Kennedys murder on June 5, 1968. Kennedy was in Los Angeles to gather votes for his nomination as the Democratic candidate for President when he was killed. West died earlier this year before Teeter could question him. That is very convenient for those who are trying to block the truth emerging, Teeter said. While some 50,000 documents relating to the murder of Robert Kennedy are now stored in an archive at the University of Massachusetts, they do not contain still-closed FBI files. A number of documents were also destroyed after the investigation by the Los Angeles police. Lawrence Teeter revealed that when Sirhan was a jockey in 1966, he received a head injury while riding. It happened two years before he assassinated Robert Kennedy. As a result he may have become one of the most deeply hypnotizable people in the world. It will be part of our case at a new trial that the CIA discovered this when Sirhan was in hospital. We will show that from that point on, he went into the CIA assassination program. Part of that program was to ensure that Sirhan would have no recall of how he had been programmed and by whom. Support for this theory has come from a key medical expert Teeter intends to call. He is Dr Herbert Spiegal, a New York psychiatrist who teaches at Columbia University. He is regarded as one of Americas leading experts on hypnosis. In an affidavit to the Supreme Court, Dr Spiegal writes: Sirhan, being an outstanding hypnotic subject, was probably programmed through hypnosis to shoot Senator Kennedy and to experience a genuine amnesia of the shooting. In other documents, Teeter describes what he calls an assassination network. He said last week: Sirhan said at the trial he thought he acted alone. But what Sirhan thought is not important at all when an assassin network was in place. When I visit Sirhan in prison, he cannot remember the assassination at all. It is as if a segment of his memory was entirely erased. The last thing he remembers before the shooting is having coffee with a woman. That woman known as The Lady in the Polka Dot Dress at Sirhans
[CTRL] The carrott or the stick
-Caveat Lector- Syria joining the UN resolution to oust Saddam was a shockWas it a carrott or a stick used by The US What on earth did Colin Powell say when he contacted them last week. Food for thought! The Mermaid x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Confusion at the Palace
-Caveat Lector- It has been a very interesting week in Britian with the revelations from the Paul Burrell. First we are treated to the fact that during a conversation with the queen Mr Burrell is warned of behind the scenes unseen powerful forces MI6 maybe. Before they tried to murder Diana they had a crack at Camilla which of course was MI5 and that went belly up and charles knew who it was so he stepped up her security.The only opther option was to get rid of Diana, especially when it looked as if she was going to marry a moslem. Amongst revelations of Dianas family the spencers being at loggerheads with the Windsors we now find that Diana secretly taped a series of videos of her life in the royal Firm.Where did they go I wonder! It seems that even the royal family are not immune to the powers that be The Mermaid x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Harry Potter Broomstick
-Caveat Lector- I heard on the news here in england that the harry potter vibrating nimbus 2000 has been taken out of circulation.When Mattel were asked if it was because of its sexual nature and they said absolutely not it just wasnt selling...what tosh!!! The Mermaid xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The carrott or the stick
-Caveat Lector- Ah But Sharon is already invading their airspace so what were the US planning to do meet Sharon in the middle do you think. Today on British TV we saw Israeli soldiers sawing down all these lovely old trees to make a big open trenchThey just marched in to these palestinian farmers fields with no permission with these buzz saws and proceeded to level the land.some of these trees are hundreds of years old and the farmers only source of money.Guess what Sharon said.. Its okay we will compensate them with money!!! The Mermaid xx - Original Message - From: Jei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The carrott or the stick -Caveat Lector- On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Mermaid wrote: -Caveat Lector- Syria joining the UN resolution to oust Saddam was a shockWas it a carrott or a stick used by The US What on earth did Colin Powell say when he contacted them last week. Food for thought! The Mermaid x He probably said: Or you're first/next A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] YUK!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Blood found in imported lollipops Last Updated Sat, 09 Nov 2002 10:52:26 OTTAWA - People across the country are being warned not to eat some lollipops imported from Argentina because they might contain blood. (Photo courtesy CFIA Web site) The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) received a complaint about reddish-brown spots in Lipo Brand lollipops. Tests on two partially eaten lollipops showed they had blood in them. Where the blood came from hasn't been discovered yet and Health Canada is looking at what the potential health risks are. A release from the CFIA says the health risks of eating the candy are probably low, but suggests the cautious thing to do would be to avoid the lollipops. The ball-shaped candies are sold across the country and come in bags of 50 or 140 labelled either Lipo or Wamis. Written by CBC News Online staff A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om lollipop_021109.jpg
[CTRL] The butler and the murdered Princess
-Caveat Lector- Butler's tales hurt Princes His saddest day ... Wills at Di funeral By CHARLES RAE Royal Correspondent PRINCE William and his younger brother Harry are devastated that former butler Paul Burrell has revealed Dianas sex secrets. A close family friend said yesterday: This is absolutely dreadful for the boys. They cannot understand why their mothers reputation is being dragged through the mud like this. Both William, 20, and Harry, 18, are shattered that Burrell described intimate moments in Princess Dianas private life in his 39-page statement to police. They were shocked to hear his stories about taking their mothers male lovers in and out of Kensington Palace in the boot of his car. And they cannot forgive him for revealing that Diana went to meet heart surgeon Hasnat Khan on her birthday naked except for sapphire and diamond earrings underneath her fur coat. The family friend said: Burrell was the most trusted of the Princesss staff and now they feel that he has betrayed her. And whatever the friendly terms they thought of him in before they are bitterly disappointed in him now. It is unpleasant for them to hear of a trail of lovers being sneaked in and out and about the Princess going out wearing a fur coat and little else. No one would like to read about their mother in that sort of light. She is dead and she is not here to defend herself and more importantly she is not here to explain to her boys. It is a very one-sided story, very unfair and very hurtful to them both. The only real losers in this are going to be the boys and their mothers memory. No one can understand the amount of detail Burrell has gone into. One presumes it was to show how close he was to the Princess. A woman betrayed ...Paul Burrell said he was her rock, but he spilled the most sensitive secrets of Diana's life But he seems to have gone into far more detail than necessary to show the sort of relationship he had with her. Last night a former employee of the Princess said: Paul Burrell has betrayed everyone. The Rock has finally broken up into tiny pieces. But the real losers are the boys. They will be the ones most deeply affected by what Paul Burrell has said in his statement. This is a man who has professed all along that he would take the royal secrets to the grave. Yet in his statement he goes into needless graphic detail about the Princesss private life. For someone who has been reticent to speak about his life in royal service, he seems to have gone into great and unnecessary detail. Surgeon's shock atlove affair bombshell Devastated ... Dr Khan By PETRINA VOUSDEN PRINCESS Dianas former lover Dr Hasnat Khan was said to be devastated last night at the explosive revelations of their affair. Dr Khan, 42, refused to comment at the London Chest Hospital, where he is a heart surgeon. But a hospital spokesman revealed: I think he would be very upset to see his name connected with this. The amazing details of their relationship came out in Paul Burrells statement to police. Burrell revealed how he smuggled Dr Khan into Kensington Palace in the boot of his car for secret meetings with Diana. He said she was so in love with the doctor that she wanted to marry him. Burrell said he was trusted to deliver private letters from Diana to Dr Khan at Brompton Hospital, in West London where he used to work. He also revealed that as a special treat, Diana turned up to meet the surgeon in only a fur coat and diamond earrings. Royal writer JUDY WADE has revealed that Diana developed an interest in everything Asian as her romance with Dr Khan blossomed. She began burning pungent incense in her palace apartment and watched any Pakistani films she could find on video. One evening her hairstylist Natalie Symonds arrived to find Diana all alone upstairs in her bedroom watching a video of a black and white Pakistani film. Diana sighed: Arent they a good-looking race of people? The besotted Princess also began wearing Eastern dress, especially the salwar kameez, a long shirt worn in Pakistan over billowing trousers. Despite the clash of cultures in their backgrounds, the Princess said: Hes insecure and Im insecure, so we have a lot in common. Blabbermouth gags us Judge Eady ... granted ban By JOHN KAY and DUNCAN LARCOMBE THE Sun was last night banned from publishing further details about Princess Dianas secret life for now.
[CTRL] more Burrell stories
-Caveat Lector- Cop says butler told fib Invited ... Colin Tebbutt By PAUL THOMPSONA FORMER royal cop has revealed he attended Princess Dianas burial contradicting Paul Burrells claim that he was the only member of Dianas staff there.Colin Tebbutt, 64, has broken five years of silence after Burrell repeatedly insisted he was the only person outside the immediate family to be invited to the service.Colin told how he clutched the hand of Dianas mother Frances Shand Kydd as the coffin was lowered into an island grave at Althorp.He said: It was a deeply moving and very emotional service and something I will always remember.I want people to know I was invited to the burial by Lady Sarah McCorquodale, Dianas sister, as a way of thanks for the work I did in Paris after the Princesss death.It is wrong for Paul Burrell to say he was the only person outside the Royal family at the burial at Althorp.I was there but have never talked about it. For years my own daughter Lisa did not believe I had been invited to the burial.Unlike Burrell, Colin has not asked for any money to describe his part in the deeply moving ceremony on September 1997.The only other people present at the graveside were Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince Harry and the Spencer family.The quietly spoken former cop revealed how his tireless work in Paris, in the frantic hours after Dianas death, prompted a surprise call from Lady Sarah.Colin said: Because of what happened in Paris, Lady Sarah telephoned me and asked if I would like to attend the burial at Althorp.I was at the funeral with my parner Liz and sat with the other staff opposite the Prime Minister Tony Blair.Afterwards I boarded the Royal Train at Euston for the trip to Althorp. We were met at the local station and taken by car to Althorp House, and for the journey I sat alongside Prince William.Out of respect for William, 20, and Harry, 18, he refuses to divulge any of their conversation during the sombre trip to Althorp.At Althorp House, Dianas family home, Colin joined the Spencers and the royals for lunch.He said: Considering what had just gone on it was very composed. Everyone at the table behaved in a very dignified manner and were pleasant to each other. Grief ... Earl Spencer walks on Althorp island days after Diana's burialThe mood was quite upbeat, but I think this was partly because of the boys. Of course it was a sombre occasion but those around the table were not morose. There was no hostility and everyone was talking to each other.After lunch the group, which included Dianas sisters Lady Sarah and Lady Jane Fellowes and their husbands, made their way silently to the small oval island at the centre of a lake where a burial plot had been prepared.The army had built a temporary wooden bridge and Colin remembers six pall bearers carrying the coffin to its final resting place.The Reverend Victor Malan, a close friend of the Spencer family, conducted the burial service, which lasted less than five minutes.After pausing for a few minutes in prayer and silent contemplation, the party filed back across the temporary wooden bridge.Colin said: It was a deeply moving and very simple service. I have never really talked about it before because obviously it is deeply private and I still respect the boys William and Harry.But because I have not talked about it people do not believe I was actually there.At the Old Bailey trial where Burrell was cleared of stealing items of Dianas from Kensington Palace, the close relationship between him and Diana was highlighted by his personal invitation to the burial service.Colin said: Yes, Paul was there was but so was I. I am happy now for people to know Paul was not the only person outside the royal family to be invited.For three years after Dianas death my daughter Lisa did not believe I had been at the service. I took her to Althorp last year and we met Earl Spencer who confirmed it to her.Even now many of my friends do not believe that I was there.Colin, who was Princess Annes personal bodyguard for six years, was due to give evidence at the Burrell trial.The court had heard how he was one of the first to arrive at Kensington Palace after being alerted that the Princess had been in an accident.When Burrell and Colin were
[CTRL] What Happened
-Caveat Lector- What happened over there in the states we british are bemused? You all had the chance not to vote Jeb Bush back in and what did you do? You put the idiot back in We are stunned here Do you guys realy want this little toe rag running Florida.I am amazed at the american public who I had such admiration for and now I just dont know what to think! Th Mermaid England A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] O Reilly
-Caveat Lector- EXCLUSIVE: Bill O'Reilly To Run For Office in 2004? by Victor Thorn NOTE: This article was originally published in Babel Magazine (http://www.babelmagazine.com) Does Bill OReilly, outspoken commentator on the Fox News Channels OReilly Factor intend to run for public office in 2004? According to syndicated radio talk show host Mike Gallagher, the answer is yes. When asked if he was concerned about OReilly having the biggest roll-out in radio history, Gallagher stated in an e-mail, The word on OReilly is that hes doing this [radio] for 2 years and hes out. Then he runs for office. In this same e-mail, Gallagher also took a swipe at the venerable king of talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, by declaring, OReilly is hoping to get about one-fourth of the audience of that bush-leaguer Rush. To view a scanned copy of Mike Gallaghers original e-mail to Victor Thorn at Babel Magazine, click onto: http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue81/81gallagheremail.jpg With the above information in mind, the five biggest questions at this point are: 1) What specific office does Bill OReilly have his eye on Governor, Congress, or the Presidency? 2) When will OReilly officially declare his candidacy and throw his hat into the ring? 3) Will he run as a Republican, Independent, or attempt to create an entirely new party? 4) Will OReilly continue to do his TV show, or will he resign from Fox News and devote himself full-time to his campaign? 5) Finally, what inside sources was Mike Gallagher referring to when he revealed this information? Hopefully some answers will be forthcoming from OReilly, Gallagher, Fox News and the Salem Radio Network. Well keep you updated. *** Victor Thorn can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hero Cee latest article
-Caveat Lector- Bali Bonus for Oz Government by Hero Cee The Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, owes his position to acts of barbaric terrorism. In July 2001, all opinion polls had him and his Liberal Party trailing way behind Kim Beasley, then leader of the opposition Labour Party. And with an election scheduled for the following November, the Liberal Party were preparing themselves for failure. Australia was suffering badly from the economic debacle of the Goods and Services Tax introduced by the Liberals in 2000. After one year of GST, over 60 percent of small business had gone bankrupt. Consumers struggled to deal with massive increases in the cost of groceries. The government had inflicted a crippling blow to the economy and was destined to pay the price at the polls. By July 2001, it was a foregone conclusion that the Labour Party would win the November federal election, bringing in a new Prime Minister, Kim Beasley. Even conservative newspapers considered this to be a fait accompli, speculating only on the size of the predicted Labour win. Then, hey, presto, John Howard had the most amazing stroke of luck. On September 9, 2001, John Howard was in Washington D.C. as part of a state visit to his pal, President Bush, Jr. Caught up in the mayhem of that dreadful day, the Australian entourage watched first hand the destruction of the Pentagon building. Arriving home to a heros welcome, John Howards popularity soared. In the following weeks, he shrewdly hitched onto the coattails of President Bush Jr.s War on Terror and never looked back. Along with some clever chicanery involving (now proven to be) false allegations of illegal immigrants tossing their children into the sea, John Howard led the Liberal Party to a resounding victory in the November 2001 elections. However, the honeymoon was short lived. Video footage soon established that the aforementioned immigrants tossed their children into the sea because their boat was sinking. Australians by now were openly questioning John Howards unequivocal support of America, particularly at the same time that the U.S. was imposing massive trade sanctions against our steel and wheat industry. Australians are extremely pissed off that the United States has crippled our steel industry, yet at the same time demands that we join them in the War on Terror. Americans dont seem to understand this. The distinct feeling in Oz is that America assumes as its right, that we should bow down to them while they ride roughshod over our industry. By October 2002, John Howard was facing increasing opposition to his vehement support for President Bush, Jr. Most Australians did not want to be a part of a war in Iraq. We did not see the connection between this and the events of September 9, 2001. We had noted with dismay the continuous way in which the United States shifts the goal posts. First it was Osama bin Laden. Now the threat was from Iraq, with North Korea and Syria lurking in the wings. Even Saudi Arabia has been mentioned as a no longer friendly state. Get Real! Despite all the media hype, Australians just werent buying this one. Something was needed to turn around this attitude; to bring Oz into line with the United States. The events of October 12, 02, in Bali did just that. The media frenzy has numbed Oz into submission. Americans went through the same thing after 9/11. A continuous barrage of the most horrible images and stories has worn down our critical perception. And John Howard wins again. In the wake of the Bali bombings, his popularity has skyrocketed to an unprecedented 62%. Clearly THEY have done their homework well. Hot on the heels of Bali, we witnessed the gunning down of Dr Margaret Tobin, head of the South Australian department of mental health. Days later, a crazed lone gunman shot dead two students at Melbournes Monash University. Immediately, John Howard announced plans to make it illegal to own semi-automatic handguns in Australia. The outcry has been enormous from across the board. Police, politicians, farmers, sporting shooters and general concerned citizens are vehemently opposed. Yet, John Howard is plowing on. But it doesnt stop there. Hes on a roll. His game plan is to steamroll in so many changes at once that we cant possibly fight them all. Heres where it gets frightening. The government now wishes to rush through new anti-terrorism laws which would give them wide ranging emergency powers over us citizens. These laws are almost identical to
[CTRL] Jesuits
-Caveat Lector- The Jesuits by Mike Bellinger The reason why I keep hammering the Jesuit issue is because they are, for sure, the core of the problem. It isn't just the opinion of Phelps or Saussy. There are so many books exposing the Jesuits that itll make your head spin. These just happen to be the latest and most up-to-date. Malachi Martin has one too. In The Trance Formation of America by Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips, the Jesuits and the Vatican and NASA came up constantly throughout her book as the perpetrators. This book was published long before Phelp's or Saussy's. Kerry Thornley's book, A Confession of Conspiracy to Assassinate JFK, which was compiled in 1990 and Internet-published by Sondra London just before his death (1996 I think). It also has continuous references to the Vatican, the Jesuits, and NASA as the overseers of mind control and JFK's assassination. Thornley was a friend of Oswald in the Marines. He was discharged and moved to New Orleans several years later where he got mixed up with a group of psycho's who constantly talked about killing JFK and controlling the public. Thornley was subpoenaed by Jim Garrison as a conspirator, but refused to show up. Over the years he pierced the crowd he was with in New Orleans and realized they were the men who killed JFK. Their leader was a sinister character who was nicknamed "brother-in-law". Thornley says he was a dead ringer for E. Howard Hunt when he saw his pictures after the JFK killing. His book is absolutely fascinating. You can download it, and its a true inside look at these maniacs. Sherman Skolnick has a bunch of articles about the Vatican, the Jesuits and the Pope's corrupt schemes and banks on his site. In most of Jim Keith's books they appear again and again just like the other books above: NASA, Jesuits, and Vatican as being connected to all the New World Order and mind control activity. These people never knew about Phelps or Saussy, but they had found the evidence anyway. It just took someone to connect the dots, and now we can see the picture. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] War Hysteria and Ezra Pound
-Caveat Lector- War Hysteria and Ezra Pound by Kenneth J. Schmidt I had the good fortune this weekend to read Michael Reck's excellent 1973 biography of the great poet Ezra Pound. In this age of terrorism and war hysteria, the subject of the "Cantos" sublime creator is timelier than ever. At the beginning of the U.S. entry into the World War II, Pound found himself living in Rapallo, Italy. Pound was not only America's most renowned poet, but an enemy of Jewish supremacism, international bankers and the Roosevelt Administration. Pound attempted to climb aboard with the last trainload of Americans headed for the frontier, but was angrily thrown off the train by State Department officials who despised his sympathies for the Duce. During the war, Italian radio gave him the opportunity to host a regular radio program in which he commented on various important issues of the day while avoiding saying anything strictly treasonous. Pound criticized "old rubberlegs" in the White House and deplored the senseless Anglo-American aggression that exploded into world war. At war's end Pound found himself under arrest for treason. Loathe tohang the most influential literary figure of that time, a federal court declared the slightly eccentric poet insane and committed him to St. Elizabeth's Lunatic Asylum in Washington DC. Poor Ezra languished in the booby hatch for twelve years until an international campaign led by mostly Leftist literati secured his release. In this new era of Jew-induced war hysteria, we must remember that it is the truly "best and brightest" that get locked away while the folks that are really out of their minds - the Israel-first millenialist Evangelicals and the Likud Bloc Neo-Cons - freely preach madness and destruction. This time around, though, the NWO has bit off more than it can chew. Bush and Company want to destroy Islamic Civilization in its entirety. They will certainly fail in this task. It is up to us to be ready to pounce when our time comes. We must, however, have the courage to speak out and act. It was Pound himself who wrote: "If a man isn't willing to take some risks for his opinions, either his opinions are no good or he's no good." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Phases of uncertanty
-Caveat Lector- Phases of Uncertainty by Victor Thorn All of us at one time or another wonder whether what were doing in life has any meaning or purpose. We make certain decisions and follow a distinct path, but somewhere along the line we question what it all means. And more often than not, if the results arent evident or earth-shatteringly positive, we get discouraged and doubt whether anything is worthwhile or not. It is during these phases of uncertainty that we all need to step back for a moment and look at the big picture. Once this period of reflection takes place, one of the first things we should remember is that existence is more all-encompassing than what were led to believe. Rather than being a one-shot linear deal where were born, grow old and die, life continues on through a succession of rebirths (incarnations), constituting a process where we can either grow through positive karmic energy, or digress due to our negative thoughts and actions. Naturally, all of us would like to better our lot in life and reach the next level of existence, but we become hindered by a form of myopia where we only see whats occurring in the here-and-now without examining the larger frame of reference. Thus, we can seemingly be doing something positive, but if the results arent immediate, we toss-up our hands and dismiss our endeavors as futile. But thats where we make our biggest mistake. Rather than seeing all the positive strides were making in the entirety of existence, we limit ourselves solely to whats going on NOW without allowing the entirety of possibility make an impact on us. A perfect example would be a person that wanted to erect a gigantic pyramid which would equal those in Egypt. But rather than having huge multi-ton blocks of stone that the original builders used, he or she was only given rocks the size of a thimble. So they begin this project, and similar to Sisyphus pushing his boulder up a mountain, their progress seems to be halting at best. But they continue on, placing stone-upon-tiny-stone, then finally step back one day and, filled with exasperation, exclaim, Im not getting anywhere! What does it matter? This is useless! At this stage the individual is faced with a dilemma. Do they throw everything away and simply surrender, or do they continue trying to fulfill their purpose? This crossroads is indicative of the ultimate direction in which the person in question is heading. Those who determine their purpose and pursue it (i.e. those who keep building) will evolve on the grand scale; while the rest will well accepting the status quo is the equivalent of resigning yourself to a state of flux of limbo. Progress is static, not inert, and those who move forward get much farther than those who run in place or tread water. An even better illustration of someone fulfilling their purpose was Jesus crucifixion. At many times during his ministry he could have said, Its inevitable that Im going to die. But why? What good is it going to do? If Jesus had simply focused on the MOMENT, he probably would have denied Gods Will and not given his life as a ransom for ours. But his realm of knowledge and field of vision was more expansive, and he realized that there was more to the picture than this single instance in time. Thus, he realized his purpose, fulfilled it, and in the process began a phenomenon that changed the world more dramatically than any other. In the end, think how different life would be on this planet if everyone truly believed that their actions mattered in a substantial way. Rather than shrugging our shoulders with resignation and feeling dejected, every positive deed would beget another because everything counts EVERYTHING for what we do does make a difference. Weve been conditioned for so long to accept defeatism because thats the way its always been and no one can do anything about it. But all it takes is a strong belief that every person can take their thimble-full of meaningful activity and start building. Soon, a mighty structure laying a positive foundation for society will result. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That
Re: [CTRL] If Wal-Mart comes to your town, kill it
-Caveat Lector- You know its strange here in england we had a company called ASDA farm stores and i always used to shop there because i have to feed my family on 60 dollars a week.When wallmart bought up ASDA I thought oh good it will be even cheaper but its not cheaper at all my bill is much more and the quality of the food is terrible! I dont know what this country is coming to Britain has gone to the dogs!!! In fact the dogs eat better food than we do!!! The mermaid xx - Original Message - From: ab To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: [CTRL] If Wal-Mart comes to your town, kill it -Caveat Lector- From the October 2002 Idaho Observer: If Wal-Mart comes to your town, kill it By Jim Hightower Bullying people from your town to China Corporations rule. No other institution comes close to matching the power that the 500 biggest corporations have amassed over us. The clout of all 535 members of Congress is nothing compared to the individual and collective power of these predatory behemoths that now roam the globe, working their will over all competing interests. The aloof and pampered executives who run today's autocratic and secretive corporate states have effectively become our sovereigns. From who gets health care to who pays taxes, from what's on the news to what's in our food, they have usurped the people's democratic authority and now make these broad social decisions in private, based solely on the interests of their corporations. Their attitude was forged back in 1882, when the villainous old robber baron William Henry Vanderbilt spat out: The public be damned! I'm working for my stockholders. The media and politicians won't discuss this, for obvious reasons, but we must if we're actually to be a self-governing people. That's why the Lowdown is launching this occasional series of corporate profiles. And why not start with the biggest and one of the worst actors? The beast from Bentonville Wal-Mart is now the world's biggest corporation, having passed Exxon/Mobil for the top slot. It hauls off a stunning $220 billion a year from We the People (more in revenues than the entire GDP of Israel and Ireland combined). Wal-Mart cultivates an aw-shucks, we're-just-folks-from-Arkansas image of neighborly small-town shopkeepers trying to sell stuff cheaply to you and yours. Behind its soft homespun ads, however, is what one union leader calls this devouring beast of a corporation that ruthlessly stomps on workers, neighborhoods, competitors, and suppliers. Despite its claim that it slashes profits to the bone in order to deliver Always Low Prices, Wal-Mart banks about $7 billion a year in profits, ranking it among the most profitable entities on the planet. Of the 10 richest people in the world, five are Waltons -- the ruling family of the Wal-Mart empire. S. Robson Walton is ranked by London's Rich List 2001 as the wealthiest human on the planet, having sacked up more than $65 billion (£45.3 billion) in personal wealth and topping Bill Gates as No. 1. Wal-Mart and the Waltons got to the top the old-fashioned way -- by roughing people up. The corporate ethos emanating from the Bentonville headquarters dictates two guiding principles for all managers: extract the very last penny possible from human toil, and squeeze the last dime from every supplier. With more than one million employees (three times more than General Motors), this far-flung retailer is the country's largest private employer, and it intends to remake the image of the American workplace in its image -- which is not pretty. Yes, there is the happy-faced greeter who welcomes shoppers into every store, and employees (or associates, as the company grandiosely calls them) gather just before opening each morning for a pep rally, where they are all required to join in the Wal-Mart cheer: Gimme a W! shouts the cheerleader; W! the dutiful employees respond. Gimme an A! And so on. Behind this manufactured cheerfulness, however, is the fact that the average employee makes only $15,000 a year for full-time work. Most are denied even this poverty income, for they are held to part-time work. While the company brags that 70 percent of its workers are full-time, at Wal-Mart full time is 28 hours a week, meaning they gross less than $11,000 a year. Health-care benefits? Only if you've been there two years; then the plan hits you with such huge premiums that few can afford it -- only 38% of Wal-Marters are covered. Thinking union? Get outta here! Wal-Mart is opposed to unionization, reads a company guidebook for supervisors. You, as a manager
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-Caveat Lector- This young guy was on British TV today and he was only given 10 minutes to talk but what he said was commendable.There are many more solidiers like him and i think he is very brave so keep an eye on him Im sure we will see more of this young man in the future. The Mermaid Israeli Soldiers Resisting the Occupation Why We Refuse to Fight by Rami Kaplan Israel's occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip can in no way be considered democratic. It oppresses 3.5 million people, denying them their basic human rights. My refusal to militarily participate in this occupation, on the other hand, is most certainly a democratic act. It exercises my right to protest, as I strive to hold on to the values of justice and peace, and it sends a message to my government that it cannot use me as a tool for attaining every goal it decides upon. In doing so I am fulfilling my obligations as a moral citizen of the world. Every man and woman must decide where the boundaries of conscience lie, and my conscience does not permit me to fight today in the occupied territories. The refusal of the 435 signatories to the "Courage to Refuse" letter, is a refusal to fight for continuation of the occupation, or, more precisely, for continuation of the settlements. It is a refusal to fight in a war of choice fueled by an extremist messianic ideology. Make no mistake, Israel has no other reason for remaining in the occupied territories than to preserve the existing settlements, even when they are deep within Palestinian centers of population. Maybe the Palestinians are not interested in peace - one of the most commonly heard justifications for our recent invasions - and truly want to push us into the sea. Even then, we would be much better off defending ourselves from the 1967 borders rather than from inside the narrow alleys of Jenin, Ramallah and Bethlehem. This is why I think that the occupation runs against the most basic interests of the state of Israel, even to the extent of threatening its very existence. As a concerned and involved citizen in a democratic regime, I see it as my right and duty to do all I can to save my country, the country I am willing to die for, from this dizzy descent into violence and mayhem. This kind of struggle is not one to wage alone, and so when I heard that a group of reserve officers were organizing with the intention of publishing an open letter stating their categorical refusal to don their uniforms in the service of the occupation, I knew I had to join them. For me, as for the others who have signed our letter, the decision was at once terribly difficult yet glaringly simple. Difficult, because I am a Zionist. I served in the standing army for six years, and have since spent upward of 50 days a year in the reserves, and I have always equated love of the country with loyal service in the army. It was difficult to break rank, to look my fellow officers and soldiers in the eye and tell them that I would not join in their next campaign, in the war for the settlements, a war we chose, not one we had forced upon us. Yet the decision was also easy. Both as a democrat and as a patriot, I had no other choice. It took me a long time to realize, to understand that not everything I learned during my long years as an officer was correct. The turning point was a tour of duty in the Gaza Strip a year ago. My soldiers committed no atrocities, but I could see the futility of our military presence there, and the daily injustices inherent in it. Today I stand firm, confident that I am doing the right thing, hopeful that the group of soldiers currently demonstrating their tremendous courage to refuse, and spending long weeks in military prisons as a result, will help bring an end to the occupation. The occupation is destroying Israel from within, it is destroying the Palestinians, and it is destroying those two nations' common future. Rami Kaplan, aged 29, is a major in the Israeli armored corps and a leading activist in the Courage to Refuse group. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/ar
[CTRL] Ruskies cover up the truth
-Caveat Lector- The latest here in Englandis that the ruskies wont tell anyone which gasthey used Blithering idiots.I thought the Kursk was bad but this is outrageous.They used these people like lab rats. The Mermaid xx Doctor: 116 Moscow Theater Captives Died From Knockout Gas Sunday, October 27, 2002 MOSCOWMoscow's chief doctor said that all but one of the 117 hostages killed in the 58-hour siege of a Moscow theater died from the knockout gas Russian special forces used during the rescue. The Interfax news agency quoted Andrei Seltsovsky as saying that one person died from bullet wounds during Saturday's assault. It was the first time that a Russian official identified the cause of death of most of the victims. About 650 of the 750 survivors remain hospitalized Sunday, with 200 of them in critical condition. An anesthesiologist, Yevgeny Yevdokimov, said the deadly effects of the gas were exacerbated by the weakened condition of the hostages, who had little food or water while held captive, the Interfax news agency said. Fifty of the Chechen rebels who seized the theater were killed during the Saturday rescue, several with bullets to the head, apparently as they lay incapacitated from the gas. The attackers, 18 of whom were women, had burst into the theater during a performance, some of them with explosives strapped to their bodies. They mined the theater and threatened to blow it up unless Putin withdrew Russian troops from the rebellious region of Chechnya. The Dutch Foreign Ministry said early Sunday that a Dutch citizen, Natalja Zjirov, was among those hostages who died. No other deaths among the 71 foreigners among the hostages were known. Some hospitals posted complete or partial lists Sunday afternoon of those being treated, but information remained fragmented. A U.S. Embassy spokesman said its workers were trying to find which hospital one of the two known American hostages was in. Anxious hostage relatives waited for word on their loved ones after the special forces raid on the theater Saturday killed most of the hostage-takers. The freed captives were taken to hospitals, most of them suffering from the effects of the knockout gas that was pumped through the building before it was stormed by Russian special forces. Irina Ramtsova waited outside the black iron gates of City Clinical Hospital No. 13 with pictures of her father, Fyodor, a trumpet player at the theater seized by armed Chechen rebels Wednesday. "We keep calling and calling and there is no information," she said. The family last heard from him when he called on his cell phone during siege and said he was seated next to one of the bombs the rebels had threatened to detonate. Official hot lines have been no help, she said. In the afternoon, a few survivors began leaving in a cold, light rain. A crowd of frantic relatives and jostling journalists were part of the chaos. Sirens blasted from passing emergency vehicles. The scene was more tranquil at another hospital, directly across from the raided theater. Among those let out of that clinic, Hospital No. 1 for War Veterans, was Georgy Vasilyev, the producer of Nord-Ost, the musical that was in progress when the theater was seized. He recalled
[CTRL] Bin Ladens will ro be published
-Caveat Lector- Bin Laden's 'Will' Complains of Betrayal -Magazine October 25, 2002 02:08 PM ET Email this article Printer friendly version Purchase for Reprint LONDON (Reuters) - A London-based magazine said on Friday it was publishing a will written by Osama bin Laden, the world's most wanted man, in which he complains of betrayal by fellow militants in Afghanistan. The Arabic-language al-Majallah said the will, typed and signed by bin Laden and dated December 14, 2001, was obtained a week ago from a "very reliable" source in Afghanistan. It said the will, typically packed with versus from the Muslim holy book the Koran, depicted a man who appeared desperate and on the verge of death. "Reading it, you get the impression of a dying man. It may be that he was wounded and felt he was dying," Majallah Editor-in-Chief Hani Nakshabandi told Reuters of the will, which is due to be published on Saturday. The date on the will suggested it was written at the height of U.S. military strikes on Afghanistan in retaliation for the September 11 attacks, which ended in the ouster of bin Laden's Taliban protectors from Afghanistan. There was no independent confirmation of the authenticity of the document. Nakshabandi said while wills are normally revealed after the death of their author, it was impossible to verify if bin Laden had actually died. The Saudi-born militant, Washington's prime suspect as mastermind for September 11, disappeared after U.S. troops launched its war on Afghanistan in October 2001. U.S. troops combing the mountains where he was believed to be hiding have failed to find him. But some television stations and Web sites close to his al Qaeda network have published letters attributed to him or messages in his voice, although the dates of these messages was not verified. BETRAYAL In the will, bin Laden repeatedly complains of betrayal by fellow militants, including the Taliban who shielded him. "We saw the cowardly Crusaders (Christians) and the lowly Jews hold fast while fighting us, while soldiers of our nation raised the white flag and surrendered to their enemies," bin Laden wrote in the will, studded with versus from the Koran. "Even the students of religion (Taliban), only a handful of them were steadfast, while the rest fled before they met the enemy," it adds. Bin Laden also asks for forgiveness from his children, saying he had given them only a little of his time since he embarked on his path of jihad (holy war). "I have chosen a path filled with dangers and endured much hardships...treachery and betrayal," he wrote. "If it wasn't for betrayal, conditions would have been different and the outcome would have been a different one." Urging his children to remain faithful to God, he advises them "not to work for al Qaeda," without giving an explanation. But he said his advice was based on an example set by prominent early Muslim leader, Omar bin al-Khattab, who urged his son to shun the post after him. Bin Laden described the New York and Washington attacks as "part of escalating strikes directed toward America" starting with a 1983 attack on a U.S. marine barracks in Lebanon and the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa. The United States has blamed bin Laden for the twin attacks on its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. But it has accused Lebanon's Shi'ite Hizbollah group for the suicide attack on its barracks in Beirut in which 241 servicemen were killed A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational
[CTRL] Have a giggle
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lemonbovril.co.uk/bushspeech/index.html Click on the above and have a giggle the mermaid xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Peace
-Caveat Lector- Home » Top Stories » Israeli Families Say Peace is Revenge By Lakshmi Chaudhry, AlterNetOctober 17, 2002 Editor's Note: In 1994, following the abduction and murder of his 19-year-old son Arik by the terrorist group Hamas, Yitzhak Frankenthal founded the Bereaved Families Forum -- an organization of 190 bereaved Israeli parents, Palestinian and Jews, who lost their children during army service or in an act of terrorism. The organization, also referred to as Parent's Circle, promotes peace and coexistence through educating for tolerance and compromise. The group recently set up a free service to encourage Israelis and Palestinians to talk on the telephone. AlterNet: What motivated you to found the Bereaved Families Forum? What do you hope to achieve through this organization and its efforts? Frankenthal: After I lost my son, Arik, I came to understand that he was not murdered because the murderers knew him. He was killed because there is no peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. This is why we are ready to make reconciliation and not ready to go for revenge. And if we can do it -- when we have lost members of our families -- everyone can and needs to do it. Many people respond to grief and loss by seeking vengeance. Why have you chosen reconciliation instead? I am also looking for revenge. Revenge for me is making peace. The murderers killed my son because there is no peace. And I am angry. I am very angry that we are in this terrible situation and people are not ready to listen. People have a lot of hatred, a lot of fear. What they need is to talk to each other. For example, recently we set up a telephone program, where Israelis and Palestinians can call each other. Now, 22,851 people have talked one with the other because of this. That would be 600,000 people in the United States in terms of the percentage of the population here. That is really unbelievable -- the need for Israelis and Palestinians to talk to each other. But how do you address that fear you mention? How do you respond to people on both sides who are afraid -- and for very good reasons? How many more people are we going to lose on both sides before we realize this is not the right way? Palestinians recently lost 25-26 people. The Israeli army says it does not have any choice. The Palestinians say they do not have any other choice but to kill. But the real way to stop it [the killing] is to understand the motivation of those who are doing the killing. Is it harder to make this argument -- that the solution to terrorism is to understand the root causes -- since the 9/11 attacks? What is harder since 9/11 is that there is no differentiation between two types of terrorism. What happened in 9/11 is a kind of ideological terrorism. Bin Laden was against the free world, America, and capitalism. What is going on in the Middle East is because the people are in despair. I can't justify it, but I want to understand the roots of it. What 9/11 did was give a great fig leaf to Sharon -- let him say what you are going through in the United States is the same as what we are facing here. It's a complete bluff. This is about the Occupation. Finish the Occupation, you will finish the killing. How have other Israelis reacted to what you are doing? Some welcome it, some are very angry. But no one does not care. But many people understand what we are doing is because we care. We are Israeli patriots. We have lost members of our family to terrorism. I am an orthodox Jew. No one is doing this for the Palestinians. Patriotism has become a very loaded word these days. You call yourself an Israeli patriot. How do you define your patriotism? This is my notion of patriotism. I have served in the army. My children are serving in the army. You understand? I also believe we need to have a strong IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) in order to maintain the peace. I do not believe in European leaders or even U.S. leaders. It is we who have to defend ourselves. But because I love my people, my community, it doesn't mean I need to do terrible things to the Palestinian people. It is because we are doing terrible things to the Palestinian people that we are in this situation. What about the Palestinians? How have they responded to your organization? With a lot of respect. They are ready to listen, ready to walk together. The reaction to all our efforts has been
[CTRL] Strawberry Fields forever!
-Caveat Lector- Living is easy with eyes closed .taken from strawberry fields by the Beatles this is coming true more everyday isnt it The Mermaid xxx What Does a Torturer Tell His Kids? By Richard Thieme, AlterNetOctober 23, 2002 A newsletter for former intelligence officers contained two requests this week from researchers. One is a Washington Post intelligence reporter who wants information about "that particular moment in a clandestine agent's life when he/she tells the children what they really do for a living." The other request came from a social psychologist "preparing a utilitarian assessment of torture interrogation of terrorists to submit to a military ethics conference." His study is focused on institutional consequences of state-sponsored torture interrogations such as the involvement of the biomedical community. He is especially interested in "testaments to the efficacy of torture interrogation in eliciting accurate and crucial information." I hope those researchers get together. It would be interesting to know about the moment in a torturer's life when he or she tells the kids what they do for a living. State-sponsored torture is being debated as a viable option, and lawyers such as Alan Dershowitz suggest that torture warrants should be issued by judges if evidence suggests that a situation is time-critical. The process of securing warrants would provide a sufficient check, he believes, on state and federal interrogators. I imagine this debate sounds different to Arab-Americans or African Americans than it does to an affluent lawyer who seldom hears suspects with sterilized needles under their fingernails screaming through the arbor vitae. On the other hand, it says something positive about the assimilation of Jews in America that Dershowitz, who is Jewish, does not even worry about how such warrants might be used if the American experiment in assimilation fails. I recall having dinner in Madrid with a Spaniard 35 years ago. "America is a great country," he said, "but it is a very young country." I felt the weight of his words, that two or three or four hundred years down the line, when historical conditions will have turned American history into the roller coaster that Spain's has been, we might see ourselves differently. We might be a little less innocent, a little less naïve. The German Jewish population was the most assimilated Jewish community in history before the Holocaust. Then Germany lost its moorings. Any society can lose its moorings. It can happen here, and one sign that it might be happening is when social scientists and medical practitioners believe they are justified in discussing torture as a practical matter rather than a moral issue. I grew up in Chicago where police did not need a torture warrant to interrogate suspects by whacking them with telephone books. That may have distorted my perspective, but I think it's pretty much the same everywhere. Chicago just does more openly what everybody does more hiddenly. I live now in Milwaukee, arguably the most segregated city in America, and it wasn't long ago that a policeman went on trial for beating a white man almost to death and blurted out that he had recently been transferred to a new district from an all-black neighborhood and had not realized that the rules were different. The policeman who told me that story mentioned a time he had to leave an alley where colleagues were interrogating a suspect in a way that made him sick to his stomach. It is not news to say that beatings and torture have long been part of the interrogation process, depending on who is the suspect and who is doing the questioning. Nor is it news that at Fort Benning, Georgia, American military officers taught agents of Central and South American police states how to use torture effectively. We all know it happens. That isn't the question. The question is, are we ashamed that it happens? You can tell a lot by knowing what someone is ashamed of. Feeling appropriate guilt and rationalizing behaviors by instituting policies that justify and support them publicly are two different things. That difference makes all the difference between a society that can't always live up to its ideals and one that has forgotten where it put them. It is not that we can't imagine circumstances in which we too would use an
[CTRL] Russia Now!!!
-Caveat Lector- So now we are fed by Jack Straw just this very minute about war on terrorism in Russia with 500 people holed up in a theatre by chechyan soldiers with bombs attached to them. This word terrorism is being banded about willy nilly these days someone define the word terroism and how come just after Russian refuse to back this war on Iraq that suddenly these chechans decide to to this after all this time.These chechan hostages being held by Russia have been there for some time so WHY NOW? This whole thing stinks of some kind of intervention by secret government. The Mermai Gunmen refuse to free Britons 10.02AM BST, 24 Oct 2002 The Chechen gunmen who are holding hundreds of people hostage in a Moscow theatre have refused to free their foreign hostages as they agreed to do earlier today. A Russian spokesman at the scene said the guerrillas went back on their promise because Western diplomats summoned to the scene arrived too late. "We had an arrangement that the foreigners would be released after embassy representatives got involved. All the conditions had been met," said Alexander Machevsky. "The representatives arrived at the operations centre but unfortunately they didn't get there on time and the agreement was broken." Three Britons, three Germans, one Austrian and one Dutch citizen are believed to be among the more than 600 hostages. A British Embassy official said the three Britons inside were able to make mobile phone calls shortly after the start of the incident. "We have had consular officials outside the theatre since yesterday evening, working with Russian authorities to secure the release of British nationals," the official said. Earlier today, journalists near the theatre said they heard a loud blast coming from the scene. The reporters are being kept back from the theatre, and the origin of the blast was not clear. The gunmen are threatening to shoot the audience and blow up the building if Russian security forces try to free the hostages. The Chechens stormed into the building last night in the middle of a musical performance, in what police have called an audacious and extremely well-planned attack. The attackers fired automatic weapons and demanded Russia end the war in Chechnya. They want a ceasefire in Russia's three-year-old war with Chechnya, and the withdrawal of Russian troops in the region. A pro-rebel website said the Russians had seven days to begin the withdrawal or the theatre and hostages would be blown up. The gunmen are armed with automatic weapons, grenades, explosives belts, mines and petrol canisters. There is little water and food available for the panicky hostages. Dozens of Interior Ministry troops in full combat gear are patrolling the area, and several armoured personnel carriers are parked near the theatre. The dramatic event is a blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has repeatedly said that Russia has the situation in the mainly Muslim region under control. Several hostages, speaking by mobile phone to Russian TV stations and news agencies, pleaded with Russian authorities not to use force to resolve the situation. Previous attempts by Russian authorities to resolve similar large-scale hostage incidents involving Chechens ended in bloodshed. "There are women, children, foreigners in here," cardiologist Maria Shkolnikova told REN TV. "We don't want the building to be stormed." She said the hostage takers, who said their family members had perished in the war and that they had nothing to lose, were very determined. The hostage takers have already released more than 100 women and children, among them two pregnant women.September 27: Briton killed in Chechen clashes Gunmen refuse to free Britons 10.02AM BST, 24 Oct 2002 The Chechen gunmen who are holding hundreds of people hostage in a Moscow theatre have refused to free their foreign hostages as they agreed to do earlier today. A Russian spokesman at the scene said the guerrillas went back on their promise because Western diplomats summoned to the scene arrived too late. "We had an arrangement that the foreigners would be released after embassy representatives got involved. All the conditions had been met," said Alexander Machevsky. "The representatives arrived at the operations centre but unfortunately they didn't get there on time and the agreement was broken." Three Britons, three Germans, one Austrian and one Dutch citizen are believed to be among the
[CTRL] We do not need a small pox vaccination
-Caveat Lector- http://www.whatareweswallowing.com/ http://www.whatareweswallowing.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sniper: 'Your Children Are Not Safe' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- This in my opinion is a problem solution reaction case. How do you fighten then tame and subdue an animal species?? Threaten its children. The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: Jei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: [CTRL] Sniper: 'Your Children Are Not Safe' (fwd) -Caveat Lector- To me, this guy sounds more and more like something Mossad would have set up to help get Americans to support Israel. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/national/main524252.shtml Sniper: 'Your Children Are Not Safe' ASPEN HILL, Md., Oct. 22, 2002 (CBS) Police investigating the Washington-area sniper shootings said Tuesday afternoon they had received a message warning, Your children are not safe anywhere at any time. The chilling warning apparently was discovered by police Saturday night at the scene of a shooting outside a Virginia steakhouse. Police said it came in the form of a postscript. Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose also said police will be responding soon to the latest message and did not take any questions from the media. Early Tuesday, a bus driver was shot and killed in the latest attack that bore the hallmarks of the serial sniper who has slain nine other people this month. A widespread dragnet was launched immediately after the shooting, clogging traffic on Connecticut Ave., one of the main arteries into Washington, D.C. just as the morning commute began. Conrad Johnson, a 35-year-old father of two, was shot as he stood at the top of the steps of the bus shortly before 6 a.m., Montgomery County police said. Johnson was a 10-year county employee. We don't know if this is related but we're treating this as if it is, said Montgomery County Police Capt. Nancy Demme. The shooting happened near an apartment building and wooded area along Connecticut Avenue. The bus was parked at a staging area where drivers get ready for their morning runs, state police spokesman Cpl. Rob Moroney said. He didn't know if anyone else was on the bus. Within minutes, police closed many roads around the shooting scene and set up roadblocks at points along the Capital Beltway. Teams of officers and FBI agents with automatic rifles slung over their shoulders, were checking all cars driven by men on the main roads leading out of Montgomery County, reports CBS News Correspondent Dan Raviv. By late morning, the roadblocks were largely being lifted, police said. CBS News Correspondent Barry Bagnato reports police and federal agents were focusing not on an apartment complex across the street from the bus but on a small neighborhood park next to the bus stop, as police helicopters hovered over the scene. Bagnato reports that although there's no panic in the voices of the people who live across the street from the shooting, many resident speculate the serial killer is from the area. Dogs were being used to comb a wooded patch where presumably the shooter hid, aiming across a basketball court into the bus, where the driver was struck. The location is near the sites of the first six sniper attacks, all on Oct. 2 and 3. In all, 12 people have been shot in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.; three were critically wounded. We remain concerned about the safety of all the people in our region, Moose said Tuesday. We realize that the person or the people involved in this have shown a clear willingness and ability to kill people of all ages, all races, all genders, all professions, different times, different days and different locations. I was getting ready to leave for work this morning. I heard a loud bang, said Kim Roberts, a carpenter who lives nearby. It wasn't a pop like a handgun. If it was a gun, it was a high-powered weapon. He said he knew about the sound of weapons from his military service. CBS Radio Affiliate WTOP reports another eyewitness said he heard three shots, which is unusual since the sniper has been known for firing once. The most recent shooting blamed on the sniper critically wounded a 37-year-old man Saturday night outside a steakhouse in Ashland, Virginia. On Monday, police said they received a call about the attack, hinting it was from the sniper, but that the call was muddled. The person you called could not hear everything you said. The audio was unclear and we want to get it right. Call us back so that we can clearly understand, said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who has been leading the hunt. Moose did not disclose who received the muddled phone call, when it was made or other details. But investigators believe the call may have come from the sniper and that the caller was the person who left a note and phone number at the scene of Saturday night's shooting, a law enforcement source told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. A senior law enforcement official speaking to The Associated Press
[CTRL] for the brits who are dying to know
-Caveat Lector- Story tools: Back a page Read later Print Mail to a friend Ulrika 'rape' man named By Hugh Dougherty, Tim Cooper and Jessica Hodgson, Evening Standard ITV presenter John Leslie was today dramatically named on live television as the man who allegedly raped Ulrika Jonsson. Leslie was in a studio preparing for his own show, This Morning, when the comment was made. His agent declined to comment on the claim. Ever since the publication of Jonsson's autobiography Honest, in which she alleges she was attacked by a television presenter, the world of entertainment has been awash with speculation that Leslie was the mystery man. Other stories: Ulrika 'rape' man named 'Troops will cross fire pickets' Diana 'left jewels for princes' future wives' Baby Romeo given a middle name Holiday Briton shot dead I am God, says sniper Row grows over 'designer babies' Lady Archer's 'high standards' Grief of Tube man's brother Booker Prize goes to foreign author In the book, Jonsson did not name her attacker and has repeatedly refused to identify him. But during the growing furore it is understood that Leslie, through friends, vigorously denied the allegations but did admit having a consensual sexual relationship with Jonsson. Leslie, 37, a former Blue Peter presenter, was named on Channel 5 by Matthew Wright as he reviewed the papers on his morning show, The Wright Stuff. During a discussion on Jonsson's allegations in today's newspapers, broadcaster and journalist Vivienne Parry said of two other women who have made complaints against the same man: "They haven't gone to the police, they've gone to Max Clifford so ..." Wright responded: "Of the three women who have pointed the finger at John Leslie, one of them has a book out - £16.99 in all good bookshops - and the other two have gone to the highest-profile publicist around." Clifford appeared shortly afterwards on the programme to be interviewed on the Jonsson affair. He told the Standard that he had no idea Leslie's name had been mentioned as he appeared live. "They asked me to appear on the show to talk about my involvement - the conversations I have had and the advice I would give to both parties - and I agreed," he said. "Just before we went on air the producer asked me whether I would respond if Matthew asked me if John Leslie had spoken to me. "I said no - and he didn't. John Leslie's name was not mentioned while I was there." Clifford has said he spoke to the alleged rapist after being contacted for advice, as well as at least one other woman claiming she was sexually assaulted by him. Matthew Wright: named John Leslie on his Channel 5 show this morning On Monday a national newspaper published a lengthy and anonymous account from friends of the alleged rapist, in which he said he had consensual sex with Jonsson but strongly denied he had raped her.
[CTRL] toothpaste warnings
-Caveat Lector-
TOOTHPASTE WARNINGS!
AN
OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF COLGATE-PALMOLIVE
April 8, 2002
Dear President:
I
am writing to you as a consumer who still has a few teeth left in his
mouth, lots of "hard stuff" between the gums and teeth (my dentist just
told me), and bad breath on occasion (dont ask!). I am seriously
considering using your product, Colgate Toothpaste, but after looking at
the many boxes on the shelves of my local Duane Reade for nearly an hour,
and taking detailed notes, I am somewhat confused about which "version" of
Colgate to buy. I also have some questions Id like you to answer, based
on what I read on your boxes, so that I may decide whether to become a
loyal Colgate user or consider some sort of action against you and your
company on behalf of all brain-functioning consumers who use or have ever
used your successful product.
Questions
1. My first question should be easy for you to answer, but
it is important to me since I am about to adopt a seven-year-old child
tomorrow. On all of your many types of boxes there is a TOOTHPASTE
WARNING. It says to keep Colgate out of reach of children six years of
age or younger, because if the child swallows at least the amount of
toothpaste needed for brushing, the adult should contact a Poison Control
Center immediately. My question is, will a seven-year-old also possibly
die from swallowing too much Colgate, or is the cut-off point really
six-years-old? As a concerned parent-to-be, I of course want to protect my
impending arrival from harm while giving him good home dental care. Also,
related to this question, Id like to ask (just out of curiosity, of
course), how did you determine that six years is the cutoff point? Was
that the result of a scientific study (or did you yourself suffer a
personal tragedy)? One final question about this issue: I have a
grandfather who has Alzheimers Disease, and I am petrified that he is
going to suck down a whole tube of Colgate one day. Will that kill him, or
make him deathly ill? Are senior citizens immune to the possible lethal
effects of your toothpaste, or is it safe to eat it after a certain age?
Does it matter whether a person ingests Colgate TOTAL or REGULAR
toothpaste?
2. You market two lines of toothpaste: the TOTAL line and
the REGULAR line (for lack of a better term). Each line comes in many
variants: gel or paste, with or without "whitener," having or not having
"tarter control," and so on (Oh, it can make your head swim!) It seems
there would be a great difference between all these choices, yet every box
has one common active ingredient: Fluoride ("anti-cavity"). In addition,
your TOTAL line lists another active ingredient: Triclosan
("anti-gingivitis"). So why cant we just swish around some fluoride
instead of buying your product? And do adults need anti-cavity protection,
anyhow? Why dont all your product variants have Triclosan, since most
adults gums are rotting in their mouths? Or is Triclosan only for the
hoity-toity?
3. I noticed that on some of your boxes the fluoride
ingredient is called Sodium Fluoride and on other boxes it is called
Sodium Monofluorophosphate. I also noticed that sometimes you dont give a
number next to the fluoride listing and other times you do give a number,
like (.024%, 0.14% W/V Fluoride Ion), or (0.76%, with 0.15% W/V fluoride
ion). Why does the variation in listing exist? Are you hiding something on
some of your boxes? Perhaps youve cut back a bit in some of your
production units and dont want to tell us. Or is it a typo? Please
explain.
4. One of your TOTAL variants says "TOTAL PLUS WHITENING."
It claims to have a "breakthrough cleaning ingredient" to whiten teeth by
gently removing surface stains. I read this box very closely, and it had
the same two active ingredients and the same slew of inactive ingredients
as the other TOTAL variants, except for two inactive ingredients: mica and
FDC blue no. 1. Is either or both of them responsible for the
"whitening" effect? One or both would have to be, it would seem (unless
the other TOTAL variants also "whiten," but youre just not telling us).
Which is it? A related question is, since mica and FDC blue no. 1 are
both inactive ingredients, what is it that produces their whitening
action? Does "inactive" have a special meaning in the toothpaste industry
I may not be aware of? Please clarify.
5. A very closely related question to that above involves
[CTRL] Princess of the starfire
-Caveat Lector- Princess of the Starfire by Mike Bellinger I recently read Laurance Gardner's paper on the ancient alchemical preparation called Starfire, a substitute for the supposed menstrual blood of the ancient Sumerian goddess Ninkar-sag. The Sumerians are believed by many, including Gardner, to be the descendants of the Anunnaki, an alien race who created humanity through genetic manipulation of native ape populations mixed with Anunnaki genetic material. A thought occurred to me. David Icke had laid out a very convincing case in The Biggest Secret that Princess Diana's death was in fact a ritual murder carried out by covert black operations groups within the British and French Masonic Illuminati. The location and manner in which Diana died was laced with Masonic symbolism and clues. The tunnel she died in was the very location of the ancient sacrificial cavern within the Temple of the goddess Diana built in early Paris after it was first settled by Babylonian emigrants. The 13th pillar in the tunnel which the vehicle impacted also fit that same set of reoccurring numbers which show up with great regularity in ritualistic Masonry. I won't list all the correlations Icke gave out of respect for his original research. Read his book and you will have the whole story. The ensuing cover-up seemed to be very well orchestrated and appeared to be closely coordinated between the two governments, but it never quite answered all the questions surrounding her death. As is so often in the case of an assassination arranged by the Illuminati, a patsy was already pre-selected. In this case it was the limousine driver Henri Paul. The missing time in his schedule just prior to the accident was used to explain his supposed intoxication, yet no evidence of intoxication showed in any of the videotaped footage taken by security cameras as the four left the hotel and entered the car. Could Henri Paul have been on a ritualistic murder-suicide mission? I know that may sound absurd, but it is well known in Intelligence circles that the Western governments are expert at creating mind-controlled assassins. The Tavistock Institute in Britain is one of the most notorious centers for mind manipulation known anywhere in the world. And there is a second possibility also. If there was any Jesuit connection in Henri Paul's past, that may also be a clue. The elite Jesuits are known for their extreme oath of obedience including a willingness to die for the cult if so ordered. This connection is only speculation on my part as I do not have the resources to investigate this possibility. The aftermath of the accident was where the mystery seems to deepen. Instead of being rushed to a hospital for emergency treatment, the still living Diana was kept at the scene inside an ambulance for an extended period of time. This was explained away by the Illuminati controlled media as the French method of dealing with trauma accidents. I find this very hard to believe given the circumstances. The severity of this accident coupled with the fame and social position of the victims would have necessitated far better treatment than that, even by French standards. The Parisian police and paramedics are used to dealing with celebrities and foreign diplomats. They would have known better than to treat someone of her stature like an ordinary civilian. This leads me to my most startling speculation. Was the beautiful and innocent Diana harvested by the sick Illuminati who regarded her both as a threat to the British Monarchy and a Protestant thorn in the side of the Jesuit controlled Vatican? Given all of the ritualistic earmarks of her manner of death and the apparent fact that she was dead on arrival at the hospital, it has to make you wonder. Her consort was the wealthy son of a prominent Egyptian family. Diana was a Princess of Britain. (Lon-don means "New Troy"). As such, she was considered to be of Royal or Babylonian-Anunnaki extraction through her mother's and father's genetic lines. That was why she was chosen by the Royal family as Prince Charles's mate, even though he secretly loved someone else. So, a "Babylonian" Princess and an Egyptian "Prince" both died together that day. A very strange coincidence. When Diana died in that ambulance before reaching the hospital; was it by design? Was she allowed to die because they wanted her "royal" blood for their sick rituals? Was Diana killed for multiple reasons? Was she murdered to remove a "troublemaker" and also for
[CTRL] Have you ever wanted to?
-Caveat Lector- Have You Ever Wanted To? by Gary Williams Have you ever wanted to run around the block completely naked and free shouting, Fuck you and your rules! I want freedom! Have you ever wanted to confess your lust for all the girls youve thought about doing? Have you ever wanted to tell the truth about why were not allowed to be humans and just go with the predator inside your head - eliminating the ignorant ones who smugly think of themselves as so enlightened? Have you ever wanted to question why the bad guys are the good guys and the good guys are the bad guys? Have you ever wanted to see a live television crew broadcasting with no kill switch, no delay button, and no one to stop you and just run up there and tell the world that the party is over? We blew our wad and now were just waiting for the elimination of our species because of too much consumerism and people not being aware of our very nature and how we have been asleep for over four thousand years - hypnotized by the very people we depend on for guidance and protection when all along we needed protection from them and how we are slowly being poisoned by chemicals and electromagnetic waves from all over the world, and the species is getting dumber (not smarter), and how can this be if were supposed to be evolving to a higher level and the people who are evil will pretend to be the good guys and no one can see it because they are blinded by the media bullshit. This is handed to them by the shovel full, and all the great causes created to help the less fortunate are actually more blinders to keep us looking the other way while the real crooks are getting away so that they can come up with more plans to turn us all into mindless, loveless human robots to do their bidding and make them all the precious money in the world and how we are walking right down the path they lay before us and a few people are screaming, stop, dont listen, its a trick! But they keep going anyway, and how we think were so smart, yet every day we give more and more freedom up for a false feeling of safety when everyone knows you can never be completely safe. And have you ever wanted to know if there really is a God? NO? Me either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel Justification for kiling pslestinians
-Caveat Lector- Israel's Justification for Killing Palestinians by KATHLEEN CHRISTISONformer CIA political analyst Any discussion of violence and non-violence in the Israeli-Palestinian context encounters a serious problem of definition of terms. First, each side apparently understands its use of violence as a reaction to the violence of the other. In this regard, while Israelis and Palestinians generally agree on a definition of Palestinian violence--from low level stone throwing to suicide bombings--Palestinians define Israeli "violence" in a unique way: occupation, settlement construction, closures, and curfews are "violence", regardless of how and why they came about or whether bullets are fired or people injured. This brings us to the issue of moral equivalency. In Palestinian eyes, the inadvertent killing by Israeli forces of Palestinian civilians--usually in the course of shooting at Palestinian terrorists--is considered no different at the moral and ethical level than the deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians by Palestinian suicide bombers. While the shockingly high numbers of Palestinian civilians killed during the past two years undoubtedly, in some cases, reflect poor judgment or lax discipline on the part of some Israeli troops, in Palestinian eyes there is no grey area here: all violence is equivalent, whatever the motive and backdrop. Yossi Alpher (former director, Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies, Tel Aviv University), "Violence and Non-Violence by Palestinians and Israelis: A Question of Definition," bitterlemons.org, October 7, 2002 Dear Dr. Alpher: I have just read your article on non-violence in the October 7 issue of bitterlemons.org, and I want to express my dismay at your attempt to exonerate Israel for its actions since the intifada began, as well as your display of a selective morality that devises alibis for Israeli violence while condemning Palestinian violence. At the start, you label as "unique" the Palestinian view that the occupation itself and such actions as settlement construction and closures constitute Israeli violence. I would argue, on the contrary, that this Palestinian definition of violence is not at all unique but is entirely appropriate. Land confiscation by military force is theft, which is violence. As you well know, Israel has confiscated approximately 60% of the land area of the West Bank for military use, for settlement construction, and for road-building. The theft (violence) has been unprovoked. None of this confiscation can be explained away as a response to Palestinian terrorism. Moreover, this violence takes land from Palestinians for the exclusive use of Jews--a vile form of ethnic/religious discrimination that compounds the violence. House demolitions carried out by military force against civilians who have no recourse to the law clearly constitute violence. When the demolitions are carried out because Palestinians have built or expanded homes without a permit, in a situation where permits are consistently denied to Palestinians, the demolitions cannot be explained away as a response to Palestinian terrorism. When the demolitions are carried out against the families of suspected Palestinian terrorists, this violence is unprovoked by the victims of the Israeli action. This is collective punishment (violence), which is illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. The forcible confiscation of natural resources such as water by a military administration or by armed settlers is theft, which is violence. The indisputable fact that Israeli settlers use approximately ten times as much water per capita as the Palestinian inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza are allowed to use, and that Palestinians must often stand in line to obtain drinking water while Israeli settlers enjoy lush gardens and swimming pools, constitutes the worst kind of violence: a violence directed at a civilian population simply because of its ethnicity and/or its religion, or rather its lack of the right ethnic or religious identity--because it is not Jewish. The denial of the basic necessities of life and basic public services to a people because they are not Jewish is violence of such immorality that it takes one's breath away. You then proceed to compare Palestinian and Israeli violence and declare that there can be no moral equivalence between Israel's "inadvertent killing" of Palestinian civilians, "usually in the course of shooting at Palestinian terrorists," and the Palestinians' "deliberate targeting" of Israeli civilians. Your construction assumes that all Israeli killing of civilians is inadvertent, whereas all Palestinian killing of civilians is deliberate. I wonder how you explain the following: On September 29, 2000, seven Palestinian civilians throwing stones--not lethal weapons--to protest Sharon's visit the previous day to the al-Aqsa Mosque were shot to
Re: [CTRL] CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-MOSSAD AGENT
-Caveat Lector- Pi** off you reprobate what would you know anyway...you small minded little shit go and live in palestine and really suffer.I note that you did not own up to living in a nice house with nice kids in safe america oh no that would give the game away wouldnt it! - Original Message - From: Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-MOSSAD AGENT -Caveat Lector- Abebooks.com has over 400 copies of the book for sale. Some as low as $2.00. It looks as if no one wants to keep it in their library once they've read it. So much for your heavy duty research. -Caveat Lector- Subject: Re: CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-MOSSAD AGENT This one is for you Zukkie and while im about it lay off Prudy!!! The mermaid http://whatreallyhappened.com/deception.html CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-MOSSAD AGENT Excerpt from Victor Ostrovsky's, By way of deception NOTE: Needless to say, the Israeli Lobby has demanded (and gotten) a total ban on this book in all major bookstore chains, while pro-Israeli experts have trashed it at every opportunity. http://www.danielpipes.org/reviews/19912a.shtml Ostrovsky's book is available only online at places like Amazon A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stone-Throwers to Be Treated Like Gunmen: Israeli Radio
-Caveat Lector- And How do you suppose that palestinians can work hard when they have to join long queues everyday to even try to get to work? How can they sacrifice money they do not have in the first place. You mention Covet steal and murder the israelis have coveted their goods stolen their land and murdered their people too. How would you like your home being bulldozed? I dont see that Prudy needs to go and live with a community to see the damage that has been caused look where it got Joan of Arc! Prudy watches the news the same as rhe rest of usBoth sides are wrong here but Israel should know better... its like you putting your boot on an ant. The mermaid - Original Message - From: Dorothy Margraf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Stone-Throwers to Be Treated Like Gunmen: Israeli Radio -Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Up until now the Palestinians have thought to outfox the Israelis by putting their children up front, in front of those with guns, knowing that there is a respect for human life in the Israeli community. With so many Israeli childrens lives being taken by the Palestinians, how much do the Israelis have to stand back and allow their children to be killed while respecting the lives of Palestinian children. If the Palestinians love their children, they will keep them at home not send them to the front lines. The Palestinians will have to learn the way to success is not to covet, steal and murder and those who encourage them along these lines are only leading them to destruction. As a community they need to learn that only thru working hard, sacrificing money and time for future generations and putting pressure on the Arab community with its oil barons and its ability to give charity will they get what they need. Prudy, if you feel so much in sync with them, go live in their community and either go the covet, steal, murder route, or help them to realize that is a dead end. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Prudy LSent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:27 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Stone-Throwers to Be Treated Like Gunmen: Israeli Radio In a message dated 10/18/2002 10:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OCCUPIED JERUSALEM (IAP News) - The Israeli occupation army has issued unwritten instructions to its soldiers ordering them to shoot and kill Palestinian children throwing stones on Israeli tanks and armored personnel carries, Israeli radio indicated.The Israeli radio said instructions stipulated that soldiers should treat stone-throwers on equal footing with gunmen opening fire on Israeli forces, meaning that soldiers should shoot and kill the stone throwers.The radio said the instructions had been in effect for some time but that it was the first time they were spelled out formally. This procedure has been obvious for some time. But it's just fine as long as it's Israeli doing the killing. Present methods of dealing with Palestinians are very frustrating for the Israeli. It's like AIDS. Everybody finally ends up dead, but it takes such a long time. Once our president finally declares war on Iraq, it will be easier to eradicate the Palestinians who have managed to dodge tanks and bulldozers up to now. Once all the Palestinians are dead, Sharon can declare peace in the Middle East enthusiastically and without reservations. Ah victory. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTR
Re: [CTRL] Good thoughts, good words, good deeds
-Caveat Lector- Hey Euphorian isnt it a small religion because it is a closed membership or something...I seem to remember reading this somewhere just after Freddy Mercury died(his parents were in this religion) The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: [CTRL] Good thoughts, good words, good deeds -Caveat Lector- From http://www.journalstar.com/features.php?story_id=32870 Zoroastrianism: Good thoughts, good words, good deeds BY BOB REEVES / Lincoln Journal Star This is one of a series of stories on world religions. In about 1,400 B.C. a man named Zarathustra Spitama, a member of a warrior clan in ancient Persia, had a vision that had a far-reaching impact on his society and the rest of the world. The Persians at that time were predominantly nature worshippers and believers in a panoply of many gods. The angel in Zarathustra's vision told him there was only one true God, whose name was Ahura Mazda, and that Zarathustra was to become his prophet. Zarathustra (also known as Zoroaster) began preaching and trying to win converts to his new, monotheistic religion. At first he was attacked for his strange new teachings, but eventually the king was converted. Zoroastrianism became the dominant faith of the Persian Empire, which by 600 B.C. spread from its base in modern-day Iran from India to Asia Minor. The beliefs and practices of Zoroastrians had widespread influence on Judaism and Christianity, and later on Islam. Zoroastrianism is the oldest of the revealed world-religions, and it has probably had more influence on mankind, directly and indirectly, than any other single faith, wrote religion scholar Mary Boyce. The central teaching of Zoroastrianism is belief in the one god, Ahura Mazda, whose name means Wise Lord. Ahura Mazda reveals himself in six aspects, known as the holy immortals: Asha (the law), Vohu-Mana (love), Kshthra (loving service), Armaiti (piety), Haurvatat (wholeness or perfection) and Ameretat (immortality). Zoroastrianism has often been called a dualism, because the religion recognizes that the world is full of both good and evil. However, Zarathustra taught that both good and evil emanate from Ahura Mazda, who is in control of the world and will ultimately triumph. The evil force is alternatively called Ahriman and Shaitin, from which the word Satan is derived. Human beings have free will, so they are free to choose good and reject evil. People can achieve perfection in this life by always choosing good thoughts, good words and good deeds. Zoroastrians also believe that after death the soul stays in the body for three days, meditating on the deeds that were done in life. On the fourth day, the soul journeys to the place of judgment. If good thoughts, words and deeds outweigh the bad, the soul is taken into a blissful heaven. Otherwise, the soul is assigned to a horrific hell. Over time, Zoroastrians came to believe in a Saoshyant (World Savior) who will be born of a virgin and who will raise the dead and judge all people in a final judgment. Beliefs in God and Satan, the soul, heaven and hell and the resurrection are concepts that later appeared in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Zoroastrians stress the sacredness of nature, including the four elements: earth, fire, water and air. Temples have a perpetual fire, at which priests make offerings by burning sandalwood. The religion has a high standard of righteousness, as expressed in truthfulness, chastity, justice, compassion, care of the soil and cattle, charity, education and service. The Zoroastrian holy book is called the Avesta. It includes the original words of Zarathustra, preserved in a series of five hymns, called the Gathas, plus other writings dealing with laws of ritual and practice. Zoroastrians follow a creed in which they promise, in part,to ascribe to all things good. The religion lost its dominance during Greek and Roman times, but resurfaced in Persia after about 200 A.D. When Arabs, followers of Islam, invaded Persia in 650 A.D., most of the Zoroastrians fled to India. Today, Zoroastrianism is one of the world's smallest religions, with approximately 11,000 adherents in Iran, about 100,000 in India (known as Parsis) and others, mostly immigrants from Iran and India, scattered throughout the world. Estimates of the total number of Zoroastrians worldwide range from 150,000 to 200,000. (Sources for this article included: Zoroastrianism by B. A. Robinson, Zoroastrians: Their Religious Beliefs and Practices by Mary Boyce; and Religions of the World by Lewis M. Hopfe.) Next Week: Christianity Reach Bob Reeves at 473-7212 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright © 2002, Lincoln Journal Star. All rights reserved. ~~~ AER + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; I don't
[CTRL] Reply to Zukkie
-Caveat Lector- They build up their own communities with money they get from the oil rich Arab community and Muslim communities around the world, just as the Jews in Israel did with the donations they received from the Jewish communities around the world. This required sacrifice not only from the Jews who had money, but from Jews who while they were only existing sent money to Israel to help the communities there. It would probably help if some who read this board studied how Jewish community charity works. Jewish community charity has very a long history toward jews and others outside of the Jewish community. Oh yes i can see the Israelis allowing them to build up a nice communitiy where they are lol Isnt that what all this talk is about giving them their own state! Dont be silly! Are you saying the Arab communities around the world are dirt poor? No I was referring to the context of the post as i understood it which was I believe, the palestinians had to work to make money and stand up on their own two feet! Murdered? You certainly dont know your history. Well thats rich when Sharon butchered all those palestinians not so long back! Given the circumstances, I would know that if I supported a family member killer, that is the chance I would take. You support immoral behavior, thats what happens. Not only is Israel, but around the world. Fair comment but not all the houses they have bulldozed have had killers in them. The ant kills human beings. If your talking about Marabunta there hasnt been a recorded case in years and they only kill because of their numbers. You are splitting hairs as usual you know very well i was comparing military might to singular acts. The mermaid A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sniper Attacks = Occult NWO Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- I thought i posted some key date in satanism on this list the other day...perhaps i didnt ...you are right about Luciferic light is a certainly interesting angle to come from.Michael the archangel was turned (so say) away from heaven with two thirds of his followers.Could it be that he was an anarchist and not the way it has been written about.Maybe he didnt like this hellfire and brimstone attitude toward the people and decided to rebel. I ma not talking here from the angle of satanism although it can be mixed up with pagan rites. Is it not happening today people rebelling agianst war and the hellfire of George W Bush and Mr Tony Blaaah.These people want to control the educated peace loving faction and history maybe repeating itself. If Zecheriah Stitchen is right about the annunaki using people as slaves and suddenly they become educated free thinking human beings and then rebel because they do not like war relising it only brings prosperity to those who manipulate it...then this upsets the balance doesnt it. So think back to Michael the arcangel and the two thirds chucked out of (Heaven) Whose heaven the elites heaven for rebelling? Angels were portrayed as having wings my guess this was just a metaphor.Anarchist is so close to antichrist...another metaphor...Jesus was a common name in biblical times like John is today in englandIt is all spin to make people believe and to fear what they do not understand and archaeology has been taken over by this elite to reduce the actual truth of our beginnings.Lucerferic light may actually be good not bad. The essenes which Jesus belonged to. a secret sect could actually have been a past anarchistic rebellion against the elite..so what do they do they change it around and use it to nullify the freedom of manand make the man a martyr for their own cause. The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sniper Attacks = Occult NWO Conspiracy -Caveat Lector- A little mixed metaphor here? The reality tunnel that contains Satan is Christian. The reality tunnel that contains Kali is Hindu. Satanists do not worship Kali. Hindus do. Satanists worship the antichrist, which you need a Christ for, or it doesn¹t work. Also, in Hinduism, Shiva is the one who destroys the old order tc, not Kali. on 10/17/02 5:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first shooting was 2 October, the first day of the annual Satanic celebration of the Hindu Goddess Kali, the fierce Warrior Queen whose mythical role is to destroy the Old Order in order to establish the New Order. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. Samuel Adams NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts
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-Caveat Lector- So what about North Korea with their secret stash of weapons of mass destruction. America have them dont they with Goerge Bush and the elite at the ruddy helm!!!Who do you trust? I dont trust any of them but i do know this if the big boys have them then why shouldnt anyone else? The Mermaid x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: A PROPHET IN OUR OWN TIME, DR. JOHN COLEMAN
-Caveat Lector- Subject: A PROPHET IN OUR OWN TIME, DR. JOHN COLEMAN His book is available in the writer's library list. Just put Coleman thru search this archive. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altwritersfiles Also he has been on Jeff Rense recently, if you want to listen to his current interviews. http://rense.com A PROPHET IN OUR OWN TIME DR. JOHN COLEMAN compiled by Dee Finney 5-25-2001 http://www.greatdreams.com/coleman.html Did you know? Public Law 87-297 calls for complete disarmament so the UN can maintain internal peace. 51 million American acres are now UN designated! Military capacity of US is 65% and UN is 800% of our 1991 levels. The UN Children's Rights takes responsibility away from parents and gives it to the state. No mention of God in the UN Charter. AIDS was UN-induced for population control (House Bill 15090.) HB 666 crushes our 4th Amendment Rights. UN command of US troops (PDD 25). 5-25-2001 Several days ago, I was looking for a radio show to listen to on the internet while I was doing some other writing for a web page, and came across a show by Dr. John Coleman on the Sightings.com website. He so much echoed a lot of the information I had been gleaning over the years about the men behind the scenes of the political and social actions I've seen take place. I've quoted a few statements from the radio show below to show how much he cares about the Constitution of the United States of America. I had conversations as long as 30 years ago about some of these topics, but as families go, I was put down and shut up rather than listened to and learned not to bring up certain unpleasant topics that people don't want to hear about because they are too busy with mundane life. And as things go, as soon as people hear the word 'conspiracy' they think you are a loony. I'm aware that people need to work, take care of babies, keep the roof over their heads, have a balanced life with playtime, exercise, mow the lawn, etc. However, when one doesn't take the time to look at the news behind the news and the reasons why events happen as they do, one cannot be certain from one day to the next what is going to occur. One can't be certain either that they are making the proper decisions for their life if they don't know what's really going on. Dr. John Coleman who is a Constitutional scholar, fits that bill perfectly. He has spent many, many years studying the topics he speaks about. He has written a book titled The Committee of 300, along with others, lectured on South Africa and the Boer War, and the butchery done on those people by England. He has alerted the world through his magazine 'World in Review Magazine' with prophecies he makes about the social issues of the world. Since he began his career in 1972, he has made 650 predictions and of those 97% came true. The other 3% were slightly inaccurate, not wrong, just slightly inaccurate. That rate of prophecy is better than any psychic I've ever heard of. Dr. Coleman doesn't do channeling. He gathers his information the same way that you and I can, through study, learning who is who and what they are doing and what they have done historically. During his career he has served in 15 different countries, so he is not just blowing smoke. The March/April 2001, issue of ' World in Review Magazine is headlined about Cecil John Rhodes. - The world united under British domination. The British may not have won their war with us when we originally fought for our independence in the American colonies, with their pretty 'redcoats' and tight white pants and shiny black boots on our shores, but they have not given up. Anybody notice how the ex-Princess Fergie started out telling us how to lose weight and now she is advising us on what to buy in the stock-market? Wait until you hear what Dr. Coleman has to say about the way Britain is still waging the war on the U.S. It was rumoured that Princess Diana was to marry one of our political figures a few years back. That would have tied Great Britain to America in more than one way. Did you know that the Queen of England owns land in Colorado? The British still run Canada. How much of a stretch would it be to move the border a little further south? And where was the first place the President George W. Bush went after he took office? To Mexico to confer with President Vincente Foxx to open up dialogues of trade and immigration to the United States. For those of you who aren't aware, there are now more Mexican people in California than there are white people, not all of whom are citizens. Spanish is always used in any legal instructions to patrons of offices and stores, and on the telephone. Some schools do not even teach classes in English. It is a similar situation and sometimes worse in all the southern states along the Mexican/US border, particularly in Texas. Notice how well President George W. Bush speaks Spanish. Woodrow Wilson
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-Caveat Lector- Can someone plase tell me How on earth you can have an election when there is oly one name on the ballot Paper?Its a nonsense isnt it? And if as it says that there was 100% turn out by the iraqi people where are all the iraqis who want to overthrow Saddam? This is so weeeird? LOL LOL LOL The Mermaid xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Large Bird sighted in alaska
-Caveat Lector- NATIONAL A super-sized bird in Alaska By PETER PORCOAnchorage Daily NewsOctober 15, 2002 ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A giant winged creature, like something out of Jurassic Park, has reportedly been sighted several times in Southwest Alaska in recent weeks. Villagers in Togiak and Manokotak say they have seen a huge bird that's much bigger than anything they have seen before. A pilot says he spotted the creature while flying passengers to Manokotak last week. He calculated that its wingspan matched the length of a wing on his Cessna 207. That's about 14 feet. Other people have put the wingspan in a similar range. Scientists aren't sure what to make of the reports. No one doubts that people in the region west of Dillingham have seen a very large rapto-like bird. But biologists and other people familiar with big Alaska birds say they're skeptical it's that big. A recent sighting of the mystery bird occurred Oct. 10 when Moses Coupchiak, a 43-year-old heavy equipment operator from Togiak, 40 miles west of Manokotak, saw the bird flying toward him from about two miles away as he worked his tractor. "At first I thought it was one of those old-time Otter planes," Coupchiak said. "Instead of continuing toward me, it banked to the left, and that's when I noticed it wasn't a plane." The bird was "something huge," he said. "The wing looks a little wider than the Otter's, maybe as long as the Otter plane." The bird flew behind a hill and disappeared. Coupchiak got on the radio and warned people in Togiak to tell their children to stay away. Pilot John Bouker said he was highly skeptical of reports of "this great big eagle" that is two or three times the size of a bald eagle. "I didn't put any thought into it." But early this week while flying into Manokotak, Bouker, owner of Bristol Bay Air Service, looked out his left window and 1,000 feet away, "there's this big ... . bird," he said. "The people in the plane all saw him," Bouker said. "He's huge, he's huge, he's really, really big. You wouldn't want to have your children out." Nicolai Alakayak, a freight and passenger driver from Manokotak who was flying with Bouker, said the creature looked like an eagle and was as large as "a little Super Cub." Comparison to an eagle, certainly. Super Cub? Probably not, scientists said. "I'm certainly not aware of anything with a 14-foot wingspan that's been alive for the last 100,000 years," said federal raptor specialist Phil Schemf in Juneau. Schemf, other biologists, a village police officer and teachers at the Manokotak School said the sightings could be of a Steller's sea eagle, a species native to northeast Asia and one of the world's largest eagles. It's about 50 percent bigger than a bald eagle. (Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, http://www.shns.com.) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No way Out
-Caveat Lector- The CFC Scale: College Bowl Game Predictions The CFC Scale is designed to predict Division 1-A college football bowl game winners. The CFC Scale is updated weekly throughout the season, and the ... »click here Buy a sponsored link on this site now! tina parrishNO WAY OUT by Michael C. RuppertTue Oct 15 20:39:06 2002208.152.73.63NO WAY OUT: Bush Steers Nation, World Ever Closer Amageddonhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/082702_no_way_out.html[Copyright 2002, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May Be Copied, Distributed, Or Posted On The Internet For Non-profit Purposes Only.]Almost a year after Sept. 11 where are we? In the last year the Bush Administration and the financial, economic and oil interests which it serves, have proved their continued ability to move forward into totalitarianism and naked aggression faster than any forces of either domestic or international opposition could organize -- either behind them or in front of them. Optimistic and valiant, but inexperienced efforts to fight the juggernaut have started, swirled, eddied and drifted as the Blitzkrieg war that "will not end in our lifetimes" has not even so much as looked sideways. Overwhelming evidence of the regime's crimes in a dozen arenas has been brought to the surface, and yet each new revelation only spurs the Empire to accelerate its long-conceived plans rather than slow down. As FTW predicted in May 2001 with Citigroup's overt purchase of known drug money laundering institution Banamex -- and its placement of the bank's owner, Roberto Hernandez, on the board of directors with former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and former CIA director John Deutch -- the criminality of the economic elites has been so overt as to seem careless about what they did, and who saw it. That was four months before 9-11.The middle path between optimism and pessimism is realism. And the fact is that nothing has appeared in the form of any organized effort which, based upon past experience, offers any likelihood of success in challenging the Bush Administration or those who direct it. It is the past experience issue that is so diligently ignored by those newly awakened voices of opposition who expend needless energy debating whether explosives were placed in the towers, whether the planes were remote controlled, whether an airliner really hit the Pentagon, or whether maybe Congress will actually do something about any of it. These debates are worse than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. They are expediting the demise of people who could otherwise be constructing life rafts. The proof already exists that the government lied.When I was a young policeman I responded to a dead body call. The victim was a fresh victim of a homicide and his throat had been slashed so badly that his head was nearly decapitated. This was new to me, horrifying. I knelt and started to take a pulse and my training officer stopped me. He said, "When you see someone with their head cut off, it is not necessary to take a pulse." I responded that my training in the Los Angeles police academy had said that you should do this on a dead body call. He said, "When you have a dead body like this and someone seriously asks you whether you took their pulse or not, arrest them for 5150." Section 5150 of the California Health and Safety Code covers persons who are mentally ill and a danger to themselves or others.Like those who still debate the arcane details of the JFK assassination, some 39 years later -- having never corrected the crimes that were committed then -- none of these efforts will have the slightest impact on a brutal agenda being waged to control the last remaining oil reserves on the planet, an agenda that is leading directly to a genocide of Islamic peoples all over the world, and perhaps into Armageddon itself.Some will cheer foolhardily because the ultra-secret court established under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) has just embarrassed John Ashcroft, our demented attorney general, by releasing a decision showing that the FBI and the Justice Department have provided false and inaccurate information to the court to obtain warrants in criminal cases -- a function that court was never intended to fulfill. They will whistle in the dark and pat themselves on the back as a portion of the USA Patriot Act has been ruled unconstitutional in a lower court and somehow forget that most of the entire act, which was never read by members of Congress before they passed it, is
[CTRL] Fw: New Seismic Data on WTC Collapse
-Caveat Lector- If this is true then you americans accross the Pond need to show this article to as many people as possible,And DEMAND an answer to this report. The Mermaid x NEW SEISMIC DATA REFUTES OFFICIAL EXPLANATION Two unexplained spikes in the seismic record from Sept. 11 indicate huge bursts of energy shook the ground beneath the World Trade Center's twin towers immediately prior to the collapse. http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_03_02/NEW_SEISMIC_/new_seismic_.html By Christopher Bollyn American Free Press has learned of pools of molten steel found at the base of the collapsed twin towers weeks after the collapse. Although the energy source for these incredibly hot areas has yet to be explained, New York seismometers recorded huge bursts of energy, which caused unexplained seismic spikes at the beginning of each collapse. These spikes suggest that massive underground explosions may have literally knocked the towers off their foundations, causing them to collapse. In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of literally molten steel were discovered more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, in an oxygen starved environment, could explain how these crucial structural supports failed. Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of literally molten steel at the World Trade Center. Tully was contracted after the Sept. 11 tragedy to re move the debris from the site. Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Md., for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures. Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived at the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation. AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. Yes, he said, hot spots of molten steel in the basements. These incredibly hot areas were found at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels, Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed, Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon. Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit. Asked what could have caused such extreme heat, Tully said, Think of the jet fuel. Loizeaux told AFP that the steel-melting fires were fueled by paper, carpet and other combustibles packed down the elevator shafts by the tower floors as they 'pancaked' into the basement. However, some independent investigators dispute this claim, saying kerosene based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel, especially in an oxygen poor environment like a deep basement. Eric Hufschmid, author of a book about the WTC collapse, Painful Questions,* told AFP that due to the lack of oxygen, paper and other combustibles packed down at the bottom of elevator shafts would probably be a smoky smoldering pile. Experts disagree that jet fuel or paper could generate such heat. This is impossible, they say, because the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons like jet-fuel burning in air is 1,520 degrees F. Because the WTC fires were fuel rich, as evidenced by the thick black smoke, it is argued that they did not reach this upper limit. The hottest spots at the surface of the rubble, where abundant oxygen was available, were much cooler than the molten steel found in the basements. Five days after the collapse, on Sept. 16, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site's hot spots. Dozens of hot spots were mapped, the hottest being in the east corner of the South Tower where a temperature of 1,377 degrees F was recorded. This is, however, less than half as hot at the molten steel in the basement. The foundations of the twin towers were 70 feet deep. At that level, 47 huge box columns, connected to the bedrock, supported the entire gravity load of the structures. The steel walls of these lower box columns were four inches thick. Videos of the North Tower collapse show its communication mast falling first, indicating that the central support columns must have failed at the very beginning of the collapse. Loizeaux told AFP, Everything went simultaneously. At 10:29 the entire top section of the North Tower had been severed from the base and began falling down, Hufschmid writes. If the first event was the falling
[CTRL] Fw: HEIL BUSH
Title: MER Email -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Mid-East Realities To: MER Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: HEIL BUSH MiddleEast.org | MERTV.org | Search MER | MER World Headlines | World Phone Plan HEIL BUSH: An Historial Analogy The Americans Are Too Scared To Consider MID-EAST REALITIES - MER - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - October 14, 2002: Author's Note: The U.S. features agency which distributes world-wide a weekly column by me has baulked at carrying the piece that follows. After 225 years, American democracy, it seems, is still not resilient enough to take it on the chin. But I am in excellent company. For George Orwell, who finished his blistering attack on Communism under Stalin, Animal Farm, in 1943, could not find a British or American publisher because `Uncle Joe' was then their war-time ally. I am grateful to Frontline for agreeing to put itself, second only to Saddam Hussein, in the American line of fire. Incidentally, "Boche" is the French pejorative for German soldier, in use since the First World War. However, the resemblance between Bush and Boche is not merely onomatopoeic! 'Hi, Bush' to 'Heil Boche' By Mani Shankar Aiyar FRONTLINE - India - published by THE HINDU - 12 October 2002: "HISTORY," says T.S. Eliot, "has many cunning passages." What an irony that the Germany which destroyed the 20th century is poised to save the 21st. The people who voted the Third Reich have now voted "No" to the invasion of Iraq. For if Gerhard Schroeder has won a surprise second term it is entirely because his rival first raised Iraq and Schroeder chased him to say "No" to Bush. Europe now has its John Foster Dulles to stall another Suez in the West Asia. The Bush Doctrine has elevated "regime change" as the foreign policy alternative to national sovereignty and collective security under the U.N. Charter. Saddam must go. Arafat must go. The US will decide who is a good `un and who a Bad Boy. And if they will not do as told, the entire population will be bombed to smithereens. We have been here before. "Regime change" is what Hitler insisted on in ordering the Austrian Chancellor Kurt von Schuschnigg to quit in favour of the Nazi quisling Artur Seyss-Inquart when the Chancellor committed the outrage, in Hitler's eyes, of ordering a plebiscite to ascertain whether the Austrian people wished to be absorbed into the German Reich. "Regime change" is what Hitler then demanded in Prague. President Edouard Benes held out in the hope of his allies France, Britain and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) coming to his rescue. The Soviet Union was willing but France refused unless Britain obliged. Instead of mobilising, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain flew (twice) to Hitler's feet. Waving a piece of a paper, he landed back in London proclaiming "Peace for our time". Germany then marched into Czechoslovakia without a shot being fired (an example Bush would wish to emulate by threatening Saddam into submission). Hitler then personally supervised regime change in the Hradacny palace. Next was Poland's turn. Hitler demanded that Colonel Josef Beck go and Berlin decide who will rule in Warsaw. Beck demurred. The Brits suddenly discovered their resolve. And the Second World War began. Some fifty million died in the cause of "regime change". That is why the German Minister of Justice bluntly compared the actions of Bush to those of Hitler. Bush is readying to do to Baghdad what Franco and his Nazi allies did to Guernica. Listen to Churchill College, Cambridge, historian Piers Brendon in his masterly panorama of the 1930s, The Dark Valley: "Waves of aircraft flew abreast to carry out the first European exercise in carpet bombing." The first flight dropped six bombs containing a ton and a half of explosives in the center of Guernica. It "caused havoc among passengers waiting for the Bilbao train, gashed open the front of the Hotel Julian and left the station plaza strewn with smashed bodies and smoking debris. A cloud of dust mushroomed skywards and witnesses heard the `wild shrieking of a terrified people.' Every fifteen minutes the raiders returned. They pulverised the town, creating a miniature fire-storm in its ruins. They destroyed three-quarters of the buildings." Priests in the Santa Maria church tried to extinguish an incendiary bomb "with communion wine. Whether the inhabitants prayed or screamed, fled or cowered, they were purused by flights of fighters which, `like flashing dancing waves on shingle', machine-gunned them from as low as 200 feet." The unbounded horror of it all was captured by Pablo Picasso on canvas. What Bush is threatening Iraq with if Saddam does not go the Benes way is what Mussolini did to Abyssinia (as Ethiopia was then called) when Emperor Haile Selassie refused to yield up his nation as an Italian colony. Here is
[CTRL] our fathers lied
-Caveat Lector- For Monday, October 14, 2002 Archives: Mon.10.14.2002 Fri.10.11.2002 Wed.10.9.2002 Mon.10.7.2002 Fri.10.4.2002 Wed.10.2.2002 Mon.9.30.2002 Fri.9.27.2002 Wed.9.25.2002 Mon.9.23.2002 Fri.9.20.2002 Wed.9.18.2002 Mon.9.16.2002 The Greatest Civic Sin There is a certain poem by Rudyard Kipling. I can't quote it exactly, but the relevant two lines are something like "When they ask why they died, tell them it was because their fathers lied." Kipling's son died on his 18th birthday in World War I. I believe the bitter little poem was directed at himself, for Kipling had been an imperial enthusiast and had used his influence to get his son a commission, despite his son being underage and medically disqualified. Kipling was never the same after. The illusions about patriotism and honor and glory vanished for him, as they did for millions who died in that stupid war. A lot of America's sons have died because "their fathers lied." The U.S. government lied through its teeth about the Tonkin Gulf resolution, an authorization for war based on a nonexistent attack, which Lyndon Johnson used as an excuse to pour American troops into Vietnam. Franklin Roosevelt lied when he campaigned and promised he would never send American boys to fight in a foreign war. Long before he said it, he and Winston Churchill were plotting to get America into the war. Woodrow Wilson had campaigned on the slogan "He kept us out of the war," and then promptly got us into the war after the J.P. Morgan interests told him all of their loans would be jeopardized if the British were defeated. I have come to believe that the greatest civic sin is to lie to the people. It ought to be considered the unforgivable sin. It undercuts the very basis of self-government. That concept, pioneered by America's Founding Fathers, says that the people can make the right decisions in the long run provided they are given the facts. If they are lied to, they are denied the opportunity to make the right decisions. They are, rather than choosing their destiny, being manipulated by others for hidden reasons. That's why I've become so anti-war, which is not the same thing as being a pacifist. I will support any war in the genuine defense of this country, but I have not seen an honest war in my lifetime or read of one since the War Between the States. Even World War II was based on lies. It's true that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. It is also true that the Roosevelt administration maneuvered them into a position in which they had no choice but to attack the United States. The Japanese certainly did not wish to go to war with the United States if it could have been avoided. Even the Third Reich never had any interest in conquering the world as Americans were told repeatedly during the war. Both the "War to End All Wars" and the "War for Democracy" were based on lies. They were both wars involving a conflict of empires and would-be empires, which did not concern the United States. Peace and democracy had nothing to do with the wars. I served in the U.S. Army, 18 months on active duty and the rest in the Army Reserve. I'm glad, though, that I wised up in time to discourage my children from joining. The all-volunteer Army, which is really a mercenary Army, was adopted to make it easier for the United States to go to war. The sons and daughters of the powerful and influential, of course, don't volunteer. Our soldiers are mostly minorities and lower-middle-class kids. They are wonderful Americans, but they are, as far as the American elite is concerned, expendable. They can be lied to. We have become a nation of liars. The politicians lie, journalists lie, corporate CEOs lie, and stockbrokers and other salesmen lie. Advertisers lie. Businesses lie. Preachers and priests and rabbis lie. And because of those lies, the young in our own and in other countries die or have their lives blighted by wounds, disease and poverty. As Thomas Jefferson said, if God is just,
[CTRL] check out the dates
-Caveat Lector-
Fixed Ritual Days
Jan. 01 No name (SA)
Jan. 07 St. Winebald Day (DA,
SA, EE)
Jan. 13 Satanic New Year (S1;
Note 1)
Jan. 17 Satanic Revels (DA,
SA, EE)
Feb. 01 Olmelc (S2)
Feb. 02 Candlemas, Satanic
Revels (HS, DA (Note 2),SA, EE)
Feb. 25 St. Walpurgis Day (DA,
SA, EE)
Mar. 01 St. Eichatadt (DA, EE)
Mar. 20 Equinox Feast Day (DA,
EE)
Mar. 21 Spring Equinox (S2,
DA, SA)
Apr. 21 to 26 Preparation for
the Sacrifice (DA)
Apr. 21 to 29 Preparation time
for sacrifice (SA)
Apr. 26 Grand Climax (EE)
Apr. 30 Beltane (NA, SS, SA,
DA)
Apr. 30 Walpurgisnacht (SS,
S2, NS)
Apr. 30 Solstice (UH, TH; Note
3)
May 01 Grand Climax (DA; Note
2)
May 01 Initiation Night (AS)
May 01 Beltane fertility
festival (S2)
Jun. 20 No name (SA)
Jun. 21 Feast Day (DA)
Jun. 22 Solstice 1, Summer
Solstice (NA, UH, S2, DA, EE)
Jun. 23 No name (SA)
Jul. 01 Demon Revels (DA, SA,
EE)
Jul. 25 No name (SA)
Jul. 26 No name (SA)
Jul. 31 Lammas (HS)
Aug. 01 Lammas (SA, DA)
Aug. 01 Festival of First
Fruits (S2)
Aug. 03 Satanic Revels (DA;
Note 2, SA, EE)
Aug. 24 No name (SA)
Sep. 07 Marriage to Beast
Satan (DA, SA, RR)
Sep. 19 No name (LL)
Sep. 20 Midnight Host (DA, SA,
EE)
Sep. 20 to 23 Autumn Equinox
(NS)
Sep. 21 Autumn Equinox (DA)
Sep. 22 Equinox Feast Day (DA,
SA, EE)
Sep. 23 Fall Equinox (S2)
Oct. 13 Continuous High
Holiday (SA; Note 4)continues to Nov 4th
Oct. 29 All Hallows Eve (DA,
SA; Note 5)
Oct. 31 Halloween (NA, SS, HS,
HC, SA, S1, S2,DA)
Nov. 01 Halloween (EE)
Nov. 04 Satanic Revels (DA,
EE)
Dec. 21 No name (SA)
Dec. 22 Solstice 2, Winter
Solstice (NA, UH, S2,
DA)
Dec. 22 Solstice Feast Day
(DA, EE)
Dec. 24 Demon Revels (DA, SA)
Dec. 24 Grand High Climax (EE)
Dec. 25 Christmas (HC, MR, NS)
Notes:
13th day of the year
Listed by Viser (DA) as the most important holidays
No solstice can occur in April
Continues to Nov. 4
Continues to Nov. 1
interesting 13th october
happenings
1843
B'nai B'rith ("Sons of the Covenant") was established in New York City by
a group of German Jews. It is both the oldest and the largest of the
Jewish fraternal organizations.
1917
The Virgin Mary last appeared to three shepherd children near Fatima,
Portugal. Six visions had occurred between May and October, each on the
13th of the month. (This last vision was attended by over 50,000
pilgrims.)
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directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with
major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil
[CTRL] Suicide Bomber
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found this while browsing from Oct 13th
97
October 13th, 1997
We
Would Like To HearYOUR
COMMENT
The Suicide Bomberby LOUIS RENE
BERES
THE "SUICIDE BOMBER" is a contradiction in terms. Animated by the
voverriding wish to conquer personal death -- to live forever amidst
seventy-two virgins and rivers of honey -- this homicidal terrorist
sees absolutely nothing suicidal about his willful murder of
defenseless Israeli civilians. For him, the "death" that he plans so
meticulously to suffer is merely a momentary inconvenience on his
fiery propulsion into heaven, a markedly temporary annoyance on his
bloodsoaked road to immortality.
What can we learn from this paradox, from a
"suicide" that does not intend to end the bomber's life, but rather
to extend it? For Israel, which now struggles against Palestinian
terrorism (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PLO, it makes no difference) with
nary a hint of real understanding, the essential lesson is this:
Recognize that your adversary is not heroic and fearless, but
exactly the opposite. Understand that he is a terrorizing and
terrible coward, one so utterly immobilized by existential anxieties
of nonbeing that he will do anything -- including the killing of
other people's infants and children -- to prevent his own death.
Blowing himself up with explosives to ensure his personal survival,
he wants all the world to believe that he has embarked upon suicidal
operations ("military operations," in the words of Arafat ally and
Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz Rantisi) when, in reality, the prospect of
real self-sacrifice is altogether beyond his comprehension. were he
to believe even for a moment that his "suicide" were really an exit
from all life this Arab terrorist would resist, frantically and
completely, every invitation to "martyrdom."
The "suicide bomber" is fully convinced that
in destroying Jews he has prevented his own death. Killing Jews
offers him an unparalleled feeling of relief, of the very greatest
power any human being can enjoy, of immunity from personal
mortality. The insufferable death fear of his ego is lessened by the
sacrifice of the infidel Jew; it is through the bombing of Jewish
women and children that he buys himself free from the penalty of
ever being killed. What is more, he knows beyond a shadow of doubt
that after executing this sacrifice literally millions of other
Muslims will proudly raise their heads over the newest field of
Jewish corpses, smile broadly into the sun, and reaffirm G-d's
greatness to all the world.
For Israel there is little point to deterring
would-be suicide bombers from terrorist operations with threats of
death -- threats which are received not only without apprehension,
but, expectedly, with a delirious joy and collective ecstasy. No, to
deter the "suicide bomber," Israel must now offer the prospective
murderer the compelling threat of authentic suicide, of the
knowledge that his explosion of Jewish bodies will bring not a
prompt entry into paradise but only an irreversible slide into the
eternal darkness, into oblivion, into death.
There is another idea that Israel must
quickly understand. The young Palestinian male who seeks the
"martyrdom" of a "suicide bomber" is presently at a loss for any
alternative validation of his maleness and his personhood. Now
dependent altogether upon community esteem, he is unable to do
anything else that could conceivably bring to him the same measure
of deference, nay reverence, that so reliably accompanies what he so
erroneously calls "suicide."
As a crowd-centered being, the Islamic
suicide bomber is fully unfolded as a soldier of G-d and The Prophet
only by dispensing with independent thought. Made complete through
the sacrifice of the despised other -- of the Jew whose continued
existence challenges his own longing for eternal life -- he comes
truly to life only through the deliverance of death. To create
[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects
-Caveat Lector- The point of my post which perhaps i did not make clear was not so much the side effects but the claim by Smith Klein glaxo that this drug is not habit forming ...It is Also any side effects which cause people to change their personalities should not be allowed onto the market untill they have been properly tested in this case they were tested and the results which, they tried to hide amongst masses of paperwork, were deemed unacceptable by an independent doctor. Besides this do we really want kids to start taking these mind altering drugs when things dont go right for them...it is part of lifes experience these ups and downs i had them we have all had them that is why we have parents and friends to talk them through not to have pills offered to us as a quick solution. The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:23 AM Subject: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects -Caveat Lector- Note: Not all people can take all drugs -- legal or otherwise. Of course, the most extreme experiences usually make the news and are therefore used to extrapolate misleading statistics taken as pseudo-fact. I for one, have a hard time with statins the family of drugs that are used to reduce cholesterol. One of the side effects is having a muscular rigidity and I've experienced this almost immediately with two versions (and I'm about to embark on a third). Beyond this, there are considerations as far as liver function effects. And on and on. The ill effects of some drugs are well known (alcohol, e.g.) but people keep on taking them because they feel better off with them than without. Different strokes for different folks. Some people freak out on some things that others can take for indefinite periods of time with no apparent ill effect. An excellent site that explores many facets of drugs in all their wonderous kinds is at the first linque below. Note that some titles may be viewed and when going to a different page that title will not be highlighted as having been visited; this is because there are many article with the same title heading. AER @ http://www.biopsychiatry.com/index.html THE RESPONSIBLE PARENT'S GUIDE TO HEALTHY MOOD-BOOSTERS FOR ALL THE FAMILY From http://muselore.homestead.com/paxil.html Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Frequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Body as a Whole: Malaise (a vague feeling of bodily discomfort), pain. Cardiovascular: Hypertension, syncope (a sudden loss of strength, a temporary suspension of consciousness due to cerebral anemia), tachycardia (excessive rapidity in the action of the heart). Dermatological: Pruritus (Intense itching) Gastrointestinal: Nausea and vomiting. Metabolic and Nutritional: Weight gain, weight loss. Nervous System: Central Nervous System stimulation, concentration impaired, depression, emotional lability (emotional instability), vertigo (a hallucination of movement; a sensation as if the external world were revolving around the patient or as if he himself were revolving in space). Respiratory: Cough increased, rhinitis (inflammation of the mucus membrane of the nose). Infrequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Infrequent Paxil side effects occurred in at least 1 in 1000 people. Body as a Whole: Allergic reaction, chills, face edema (abnormal amount of fluid in the facial tissue), infection, moniliasis (infection caused by Candida (yeast like fungi), neck pain, overdose. Cardiovascular: Bradycardia (abnormal slowness of the heartbeat), conduction abnormalities (abnormal transfer of sound waves, heat, nerve influences, or electricity), ECG abnormal, hypotension (lowered blood pressure), migraine, ventricular extrasystoles (a premature contraction of the heart). Dermatological: Acne, alopecia (absence of hair from the body where it is normally present), dry skin, ecchymosis (blood under the skin, usually looks or appears like a bruise), eczema (an inflammatory skin disease characterized by lesions varying greatly in character, at times watery discharge and the development of scales and crust), furunculosis (a number of painful nodules formed in the skin, caused by bacteria, which enter through the hair follicles or glands, its formation is favored by digestive derangement and local irritation), herpes simplex, urticaria (reaction of the skin to certain drugs, marked by the appearance of smooth, slightly elevated patches, which are redder or paler than the surrounding skin and often includes severe itching). Gastrointestinal: Bruxism (grinding of the teeth especially during sleep), buccal cavity disorders (cavity running from the cheeks to the lips), dysphagia (inflammation of the esophagus), eructation (the act of belching or casting up wind from the stomach), gastroentertitis (inflammation of the stomach or intestines), gastrointestinal flu, glossitis
[CTRL] Two Little Boys!!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/thompsonvenables.html Robert Thompson and Jon Venables: Great Britain's Infamous Ten-Year-Old Kidnappers by Sky Ryan "Come on, baby," Jon Venables urged pulling toddler James Bulger by the hand. Jons best chum, Robert Thompson, walked a few feet in front of them leading the way out the front glass doors of the Bootle Strand Shopping Center just outside Liverpool, England. Venables and Thompson had been "sagging" (British for playing hooky) that chilly afternoon in February of 1993. The two schoolboys were close friends as well as disreputable rabble-rousers from broken homes. Jon and Robert spent that morning and early part of the afternoon goofing around the Bootle Strand on a shoplifting high. The wily imps managed to smuggle all kinds of crap out of several businesses without getting caught. Among the items they ripped off were batteries, candy, toy soldiers, magic markers, blue paint, and a troll doll for Roberts collection. Several hours into pocketing small stuff, Jon and Robert grew bored of their spree. They agreed to move onto stealing something far more valuable than merchandise in a store, something sure to give them a bigger rush: a real, live baby. A little after three oclock when they should have been getting out of school, Venables and Thompson strolled nonchalantly through the mall in search of a smaller unsupervised kid. It didnt take long for Satan to lead them to James Bulger -- a preschooler playing alone with cigarette butts in an ashtray outside the malls butcher shop. Baby James had wandered away from his young mum just a minute before Jon and Robert approached him. As the naughty truants hastily lured Bulger out of the galleria, his mother Denise chit-chatted away in the long, crowded line of the butchers, unaware her son had vanished. Not until she finished making her purchase did Mrs. Bulger notice her only child was gone from her side. She called out for him in the shop and asked strangers all around if they had seen a two-year-old with blond hair wearing a blue anorak. Nobody she approached had. She then tracked down security guards, who announced Jamess disappearance over the speakers. Denise and the guards searched for Jamie throughout the plaza for a full half hour. At 4:15 p.m., they called police to report him missing. By the time authorities got to the mall to interview Jamess mum, hed been led nearly a mile away by his abductors. Bulger became fussy within the first few minutes he was dragged between Robert and Jon. As soon as he would whine for his mummy and try to stop walking, the older lads would force him to go on, punching, kicking, and shaking him til hed cooperate. Venables and Thompson wandered around town for about ninety minutes with Jamie, covering a two mile radius. During those ninety minutes, they took Bulger into a couple of stores, including a pet shop and bakery. They also yanked him down a grassy slope to a canal under a bridge where they got a kick out of dangling him upside down and dropping him on his head. A few minutes into that particular torture game, Jon and Robert stopped themselves from having too much fun. It wasnt quite dark yet and they knew someone could easily peer down the hill and discover them hurting a baby. So Jon carried the bruised and whimpering James in his arms, following his leader up the bank. When they reached the hilltop, they adjusted Jamies coat and scarf to cover as much of his swollen face as possible, then roamed about town for a bit longer until nightfall. At 5:30, when they felt it was finally dark enough, Venables and Thompson took Bulger to one of their favorite play spots -- some railroad tracks -- where they knocked Baby to the ground and stomped on his tummy and chest. Jon opened the jar of bright blue paint hed pocketed earlier and splashed it across the tykes face. Robert removed Bulgers shoes and pants, then inserted the stolen AAA batteries into his rectum. One of them spotted a two-foot long heavy iron pipe nearby, which they used to bash their toy tots brains in. They also found bricks to hurl at him. When Bulgers body went stiff, Jon took him by the legs while Robert got hold of the torso. They carried James directly over the railroad tracks and laid him down so that his upper half was off the tracks, while his naked legs were on them. They left before the train came. ** Later
[CTRL] Henry Makow
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NOTE: :http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/bankers.htmlInternational
bankers live in fear. Not of starvation, disease, or war. These are the
concerns of children in the Third World. Bankers are terrified we
might object to paying them billions each year in interest for money they
create out of nothing, guaranteed by our taxes. (The Federal Reserve
Board, a private cartel of mostly foreign banks, finagled this monopoly in
1913.) The bankers are frightened that, like the homeless man's
dog, we might say "I can do this myself." They are scared the
government might go even further and "default" on trillions of
make-believe "debt." They are frightened of losing "control."
In order to sleep more soundly, the bankers have taken "steps."
These precautions help us to understand the world we live in, why
it is becoming safer for bankers but less safe and more bizarre for
everyone else. First, people with money machines tend to have a
lot of friends. The bankers helped their friends establish monopolies in
oil, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, transportation, media, etc. and took a
healthy stake. As you can imagine, these people are thick as thieves.
Lawyers, journalists and intellectuals all vie for a piece of the action.
(Servicing this cartel of cartels is what passes for success these days.)
The bankers' first precaution is to buy all the politicians. The
second is to buy the major media outlets in order to promote the illusion
politicians make decisions and represent our interests. The third
precaution is to take control of the education system, ensuring that
people stop thinking at an early age. Then the bankers use the
government and media to convince us that religion, nationalism, and
nuclear family are unfashionable, and we want what they want. We
"want" world government ("globalisation"). The bankers need to eliminate
nation states, freedom and democracy in order to streamline their business
and consolidate their power. The UN, the IMF and World Bank, -- glorified
loan sharks and collectors -- will make the laws. We "want"
diversity. Countries are not allowed to maintain their national identities
or traditions. Last Christmas, Gary Doer, my provincial premier tried to
rename the Christmas tree at the legislature a "multicultural tree."
Diversity is respecting every culture but our own. Every nation must be
heterogeneous and disparate as a box of Smarties not one of them in a
position to challenge the bankers. Or take "feminism."
Masquerading as equal rights for women, this Marxist Lesbian ideology is
designed to destroy the nuclear family (the basic building block of
society) by undermining paternal authority. Cultural differences between
men and women are not "stereotypes." But signatories to the latest UN
"CEDAW" Convention (recently passed by the US Senate Foreign Relations
Committee) will be required to "take all appropriate measures to modify
all social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women." (Article 5)
This kind of Communist-inspired social engineering is simply
persecution of heterosexuals. It is intended to arrest our natural
development: the birth rate has halved while the divorce rate has doubled.
An army of highly paid lawyers, social workers and bureaucrats treat the
casualties. These self-serving do-gooders are the bankers' biggest
constituency. People --stunted, love-starved, and sex-obsessed --
without family, religious or national identity, are easy to control.
(They'll join anything; they are looking for a family.) But in case of
resistance, the bankers have created a bogeyman, "terrorism" to justify a
huge security apparatus. The Office of Homeland Security is
designed to control us -- the domestic population. Why would this be
necessary? We're "in debt" trillions of dollars and the bankers intend
that we pay. One day they will take away our toys. In case it's a problem,
an Orwellian police state will be in place. But first, the Muslims must be
subjugated and robbed. Talking about the United States as if it
were an independent country is silly. American politicians pawned U.S.
sovereignty in 1913. Ever since, U.S. soldiers have been bullyboys for
international bankers, and nothing else. The American taxpayer and
soldier made the First World War possible. It started just six months
after the establishment of the "Fed". Its purpose was to increase debt,
cripple the great European nation states, slaughter a generation, and
establish two of the bankers' pet projects: Communism (Russia) and Zionism
[CTRL] Bush warned taiwan of attack..told them to keep it a secret
-Caveat Lector- Groups AdvancedGroupsSearchPreferencesGroups Help View with frames Sorted by replySort by date All messages from thread "Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack" Message 1 in threadFrom: Yu ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-13 23:37:51 PST According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. Post a follow-up to this message Message 2 in threadFrom: Harrison X. Numbugger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Re: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-14 03:43:40 PST Yu wrote: According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? it was probably a US operation. Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. -- "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials "Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872. Post a follow-up to this message Message 3 in threadFrom: Mahakala ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Re: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-14 04:22:12 PST "Harrison X. Numbugger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Yu wrote: According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? it was probably a US operation. Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. -- "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials "Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg.
[CTRL] Aussies suspicious of US
-Caveat Lector- 10/13/02 10:14:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time Dear Jeff, Just a few weeks ago many Australians saw a TV interview with a somewhat gruff US Ambassador to OZ who, seemingly upset with the prevalent (majority) popular objection of Australian citizens to Australia's involvement in the planned US military invasion of Iraq (or "Regime Change" as it has become known in extant "Poli-Speak"), warned us that Australia was not immune to Al Qaeda style terrorist action. Crazy as it seems at first sight many who saw this interview gleaned his attitudeto actually be an unspoken but implied threat of terrorist action if we did not mend our wayward non-compliantattitudes Our OZ ways have included a rising anguish at the treatment of the Palestinians by the forces of Israel as directed by Sharon and supported by Bush, AND a very widespread and fast setting viewagainst helping in the US plans for a military invasion of Iraq, coupled with an increasing anger at the new Pax Americana planetary policies of Dubya's USA. Meanwhile in Europethe Germans were fighting an internal political election battle over Yes-No re support for the planned US military invasion of Iraq. The NO side won and Germany came down solidly against any involvement in, or UN support for, the planned US-Iraq war.Similarly France held out against the USA and, although willing to support renewed UN site investigations, refused to back the US demand for stronger UN resolutionsthat would automatically lead via a short fuse to a rapid UN supported war on Iraq. Reportedlythe vast majority of other European populations are also dead set against this new US war. Not only these peoples but also a very large percentage of Britons are similarly dis-interested in this new American game - with it's very real risk of devolution into World War III. Then within a few days we were presented with fresh Al Jazeera TV announcements (a) that Osama bin Laden (aka they seek him here - they seek him there - the elusive pimpernel) was alive and well, and (2) a message -reportedly from another Al Qaeda Chief - threatening terrorist attacks against both French and German interests. These news items were immediately followed by a terrorist attack -an explosive laden motor boat against a French Super-Tanker off the coast of Yemen. Back in OZ we simultaneously experienced nation wide TV warnings by oneRohan Gunaratna, the author of "Inside Al Qaeda". This previously unknown to us "expert on terrorism"issued a specific warningthat Al Qaeda members have been trained to destroy targets in Australia,stating thathe'd been given the information during debriefings of captured Al Qaeda members. Amazing how this author got access to these prisoners - the most tightly held since the Gulag Archipelago - and national TV airtime across OZ - he must have some very interesting connections.. Then last night there occurred the horrendous and despicable terrorist bombings of two night clubs in Bali - frequented predominantly byholidaying Australians. First reports talk of +182 dead (with the count expected to climb) plus hundreds wounded including many horribly burned. These casualtiesinclude many young Australian, English, German, Dutch, and Indonesian-Balinese. Just what sort of "Muslim Terrorist" threatens to bomb the persons and interests of people who are basically for Human Rights in Palestine and against the US Dubya Bush plans for an invasion of Iraq ??? What sort of IDIOT would then do so and thereby ruin this genuine grass roots support for their cause within Germany, France, Britain, Holland etc, and Australia ??? Strangely unlike the Northern Irish or Basque terrorist actions these latest bombings of people and assets have NOT been followed by any public claims of authorship and their cause. However this omission has been corrected by our Australian TV which has been running pictures of Saddam Hussein andlinking the blasts to Al Qaeda or off-shoot SE Asian Muslim organisations - throughout tonight's Bali Bombing News slots. We are told tonight by our new ABC "terrorist guru" - Rohan Gunaratna - that "ONLY Al Qadea have the intention and ability to carryout such terrorist bombings as that in Bali"... I seem to recall an almost identical line being spunon US TV - just minutes after the 9-11New York Twin Trade Tower incidents . ONLY AL QAEDA can do this - NO ONE else - do not forget this viewers !!! Obviously the Al Qaeda group lack quality spin doctors and planners amongst their other key personnel - the ones with the "sole planetary ability to mount such terrorist attacks" - since better strategic planning would presumably strike real enemies of the Muslim or Iraqi world - not their potential or real allies. Equally obviously such claims that Al Qaeda are the ONLY possible sources of such terrorism are
[CTRL] Is israel really americas friend
-Caveat Lector- Is Israel Really America's Friend?By Hal Turner10-12-2 Elsewhere on this website, I have collected many articles by Western journalists, Jews and Israelis, and human rights organizations all of whom condemn Israel's policies in Palestine. I have also provided evidence that Israel is an apartheid state. I believe that all of this should be sufficient reason for America to stop supporting Israel - we should stand up for justice. But even if you don't find this a compelling argument, we can look at whether Israel has really been a loyal ally to the U.S., or whether the U.S.-Israeli relationship is costing America. Is Israel really America's friend? Examine the evidence below. A friend wouldn't: * spy on America * sell American military secrets to America's enemies * pirate America's technology * stockpile weapons of mass destruction * attack an American naval vessel in international waters * stand by and let Americans be killed Israel has done all of these and continues to do them. This is not "Muslim propaganda". All reports are taken from American or Israeli news sources and journalists. Israel's Espionage Against the U.S. Allies and Espionage, by Jane's Intelligence Digest Art, Espionage and Cover Ups, by Alan Simpson Art Students or Intelligece Agents? by Paul Rodriguez Damage Caused by 'Friendly' Spies, by Stephen Green, and Israel's 40-Year History of Espionage Against the United States, by Stephen Green Despite Coverup, Israel Caught Spying in Washington Again, by Richard H. Curtiss An Enigma: Vast Israeli Spy Network Dismantled in the U.S., by Sylvain Cypel FBI Probes Espionage at Clinton White House, by J. Michael Waller and Paul M. Rodriguez Is Israel Spying on the U.S.? A Fox News Report by Carl Cameron (note: this story was removed from the Fox website, but all four parts were mirrored at the link above) The Israeli "Art Student" Mystery, by Christopher Ketcham The Israeli Art Student Papers by Justin Raimondo and Suspicious Activities Involving Israeli Art Students at DEA Facilities by the DEA Israeli Spy Ring Story Makes the BBC Israeli Spy-Ring Uncovered in U.S., by Iason Athanasiadis A New Pollard Affair? by Jeffrey Steinberg Report of Israeli Eavesdropping on White House Telephones Gets Varying Media Treatment, by Richard H. Curtiss Revelation that Shamir Bartered U.S. Secrets Is Part of a Lifetime Pattern, by Leon T. Hadar Spies, Or Students? by Nathan Guttman (from the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz!) The Spies Who Came in from the Art Sale, by John Sugg Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth: Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage, By Marc Perelman (note: this is a report from a Jewish magazine!) Spying on America, by Charles R. Smith Urban Myth, My A**, by John Sugg U.S. Arrests 200 Young Israelis in Spying Investigation, by Ben Fenton U.S. Busts Huge Israeli Spy Ring, Says French Paper, from Reuters newswire U.S. Deports Israelis Amid Warnings of Espionage Activities, by Ted Bridis U.S. Police and Intelligence Hit by Israeli Spy Network, by Charles R. Smith Was Israel Involved in Los Alamos Espionage? by Carl Limbacher And here are some links specifically about the Jonathan Pollard spy case: Another Look into the Murky Depths of the Pollard Affair, by Amir Oren In the Pollard Case, Israel Dishonors Its Mother and Father, by Andrew I. Killgore Israel Finally Admits Pollard was Its Agent, by David Makovsky Israel Should Admit Its Responsibility to Jonathan Pollard, by Victor Ostrovsky Israeli Make-Believe: Jonathan Jay Pollard Did Not Damage the United States, by Andrew I. Killgore Jonathan Pollard Was No Jewish Patriot, by Eric Margolis Pollard and Beyond, by Richard H. Curtiss Pollard in Perspective, by Michael Saba Pollard is Only the Tip of the Iceberg, by Joseph Sobran Pollard Should Not Go Free, by Joseph
[CTRL] Bushes bananna republic
-Caveat Lector- Bush's Banana RepublicBy Francis Boyle 10-13-2 George W. Bush was never elected President by the People of the United States of America. Instead, he was anointed for that Office by five Justices of the United States Supreme Court who themselves had been appointed by Republican Presidents. Bush Jr.'s installation was an act of judicial usurpation of the American Constitution that was unprecedented in the history of the American Republic. Had it occurred in a developing country, such a subversion of democratic process would have been greeted with knowing derision throughout the West. What happened in America could only be likened to a judicial coup d'etat inflicted upon the American People, Constitution, and Republic. There should now be no doubt that the United States Supreme Court is governed by raw, naked, brutal, power politics. Justice has nothing at all to do with it. This Supreme Court's constitutional sophistry proved a harbinger of the new administration's disrespect for the Rule of Law, whether domestic or international. BUSH JR.'S CONSTITUTIONAL COUP D'ETAT From the Supreme Court's installation of Bush Jr. as President to the Ashcroft/Federalist Society post-September 11 regime of police state "laws," the politico-legal functioning of America is increasingly resembling that of a Banana Republic. Since September 11th, we have seen one blow against the U.S. Constitution after another. For example, Attorney General John Ashcroft unilaterally instituted the monitoring of attorney-client communications despite the Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and seizures and the Sixth Amendment right to representation by Counsel in criminal cases. He just went ahead and did it, without even bothering to inform anyone. Over 1100 aliens have been picked up and "disappeared" by Ashcroft and his Department of Injustice. The American People have no idea where most of these people are. They are being held on the basis of immigration law, not criminal law, for a period of detention which has not been defined. Ashcroft proclaimed another ukaze that these immigration proceedings must be held in secret. The phenomenon of "enforced disappearances" is considered to be a crime against humanity by Article 7(I)(i) of the Rome Statute for the International Criminal Court. It appears that many of these aliens have been deprived of their basic human rights to consular notification and access as set forth in the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, to which the United States is a contracting party and which even the U.S. State Department concedes constitutes binding customary international law. Apparently Bush Jr.'s left hand does not care about what his right hand does. Yet another international convention set at naught. The one characteristic these detained foreigners have in common is that they are mostly Muslims, Arabs, and Asians. Everyone needs a scapegoat for the 11 September tragedy, and it looks like we have one, both at home and abroad. Thousands more such aliens are being moved into the pipeline for the Ashcroft gulag by the FBI. Ashcroft is now planning to reinstate the infamous COINTELPRO Program, whose atrocities against the civil rights and civil liberties of the American People have been amply documented elsewhere. It is just a matter of time before the Bush Jr. Leaguers unleash the newly-augmented powers of the FBI, CIA and NSA directly against the American People. And we already have 2 million Americans rotting away in prison -- the highest rate of incarceration in the world, a disproportionate majority of whom are Americans of Color, victims of the Nixon/Ford, Reagan/Bush, and Clinton administrations' racist "war on drugs," which is really a war against People of Color. The American Police State has already arrived for People of Color! ASHCROFT'S POLICE STATE This brings the analysis to the Ashcroft Police State Act. There are no other words to describe it. While Bush failed to get a formal declaration of war that would have rendered him a constitutional dictator, clearly Attorney General John Ashcroft and his right-wing Federalist Society lawyers took every piece of regressive legislation off the shelf, tied it all into what they called an
[CTRL] Interesting article
-Caveat Lector- Rense.com How Long Can China Now Stand In The Shadows?By Joseph Ehrlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender, Berl Sons 10-13-2 First: Update on the sniper(s). We note that nearly two weeks into the terror, police are first checking into those with sniper training. The experts are discounting international terrorism because the number of deaths are contained, no massive strike for large numbers of casualties, a believed signature of genuine terrorism. This is because they are missing that the terrorism TO DATE HAS BEEN A MESSAGE. Now, it may escalate. They also seemed pretty slow in admitting to two sniper(s) preferring the psychotic scenario of one very sick person committing the crime. Now, finally they realize it has to be more than one. Moreover, once the message avenue is accepted, then it also ties into the type of people who are willing to shoot a child. Again, our initial perception was people paying America back for the deaths of children due to US policies. We have had our necks on the block on this matter since the first, and while slow, the experts are now confirming a disciplined trained person, which was obvious to us from the first. We continue to believe that the message will be amplified, or the terrorism further expanded, if we see two shootings within minutes in two different areas. Remember aside from the chaos and economic impact, if it is was we say, and remember it occurred literally hours after we expected it (formally for the first time since 9-11), one other critical message is that the US is one vulnerable country, inept, consistent the paper tiger image China paints for the US throughout the world. This message will be heightened should the two contemporary shootings take place, leaving the federal and state authorities which major egg on their faces. If we also are correct, these sniper(s) will not be taken alive, and may take many with them. We must also note that on the Sunday morning news shows there was absolute no discussion at all whatsoever regarding either the Bali terrorism and the Pakistani elections. Americans should cry as much over the reality of a controlled media as with the sniper(s), because such control in the long run will claim massive lives. So much meaningless news on the sniper(s) spending millions upon millions of man hours of production and audience on nothing meaningful and failing to discuss the true implications thereof. As a result, then speak about Bali and Pakistan two news stories carrying incredible significance in the view of the congressional vote this week. Analysis: On June 25, 2002, we wrote that President Bush in his Rose Garden remarks on June 24, 2002, took the battle from Israel and the PLO and made it one between the New World Order and Islam. We wrote that Oslo united the Arab world against Israel, and now, from his remarks, President Bush united the Islamic world against the United States and the West. Further, to make it crystal clear, President Bush issued on September 20, 2002, the historical National Security Strategy document, letting not only the Islamic world but the entire world know that new US policy was to pursue any perceived enemy at any time to undermine the enemy and colonize it to mold it into the New World Order image for that previous sovereign state. Moreover, we went deep into the interpretation to show that Israel itself was a successful target of the New World Order strategy and that with its controlled leadership and infiltrated infrastructure, Israel followed New World Order directives, to set up the Middle East region for New World Order domination and control. Saddam Hussein could have been one way or another removed from office, but he was kept around for the day the New World Order crew needed to capture Iraqi oil and establish a long term residency in the Middle East. The only dynamic we never would have seen or interpreted and which truly surprises us, if not shocks us, is that President Bush would so openly and brazenly let everyone know it, and act as if he didn't care whether anyone internationally or domestically knew now the
[CTRL] Paxil/Serokat IMPORTANT
-Caveat Lector- I am not very good at putting things over but because of the nature of what i have just seen on english TV Panorama I feel it is my duty to tell American families about this documentary on Paxil.called seroxat in england. Glaxo Smith Kline are making billions on this so called wonder drug for depression and other mental problems it is called Paxil in the states and seroxat in england. The documentary shown here in england tonight opened with a student elen kelsall studying for masters degree trying to come off the drug which she and many others like her were told this was not a dependency drug.WRONG to watch her was frightening. The side effects were one of dependency. Then we were told about a man in America wyoming to be prescise who was a retired oil man who killed his wife daughter and grandchild and then committed suicide after having been on Paxil for only two days!! the court decided that this drug was the cause but glaxo smith kline are still advertising this drug in the american media. Dr healey an independant psycologist was called in to give an unbiased view on seroxat/paxil for the court.GSK had files of clinical tests carried out on healthy patients who showed signs of suicidal tendencies and tendencies to do harm to others and themselves in files from original tests of the drughe was not allowed access to these files until 2 days before the court hearing when he finally got to the files they were mindboggling there were too many for him to cope with ...but he did manage it... god knows how. This documentary showed many things too numerous to put in this email but the reason I am reiterating it to you is that Smith Klein Glaxo have had trials with children in the states for this drug and 10 out of 75 children showed suicidal tendencies. They are about to be given the go ahead to treat children and young adults with this drug.IF YOU ARE A PARENT DONT LET THEM PRESCRIBE YOUR CHILD WITH PAXIL IN THE STATES. England ruled that thay cannot in this country but the states said they could go ahead. Like I said im not very good at putting things over in an email but if there is a transcript of this program i will get it for you to read. The Mermaid England A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Conspiranoia!] In Defense of Terrorism
-Caveat Lector- What an excllent post this is I was thinking this same thing this morning in bed lets get RID of the american zionist run government they are the biggest terrorists of all maybe all the major troubles will cease and then we can get down to wiping out the ruling elite and the powerbrokers... God the list is endless isnt it. Seriously though The downfall of Hitler Bush and his henchmen would be a very good start. I would like to say remember what happened to Hitler but we all know he is still alive and well dont weI Just hope if they get rid of Mr Bush then they do the job properly and he is not whisked away to antartica or some underground Bunker. I actually think that Bush junior is probably expendable by daddy anyway Its the father that is behind a lot of this trouble Bush Junior is just a mind controlled ...whisky swigging ... Prezel eating Patsy! Or was it a pretzel that made him choke??? The mermaid x Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: [Conspiranoia!] In Defense of Terrorism In Defense of Terrorism by Edgar J. Steele October 12, 2002 This troubled planet is a place of the most violent contrasts. Those that receive the rewards are totally separate from those who shoulder the burdens. It is not a wise leadership. --- Mr. Spock of Star Trek (describing Ardana, where the rulers lived in luxury in a cloud city above miners working in misery.) That circumstances sometimes justify it... revolution is not a communist doctrine, but an old American belief. --- Justice Jackson, 1950 Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable and sacred right - a right we hope and believe to liberate the world. --- Abraham Lincoln, 1848 Revolutionaries and their acts of terrorism are not always to be despised. America's first revolutionaries were terrorists, after all. Today, they would be arrested by Ashcroft's Homeland Defense stormtroopers and held without bail, without charges and without recourse to legal proceedings. If Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz had his way, they would be tortured. Imagine George Washington's screams as Dershowitz slides those needles he favors under George's fingernails. Now, imagine that was your father in Washington's place. Imagine your fury. Imagine you have nothing. Imagine the feds bulldozing your home after disposing of your father's body, crippling your mother and raping your sister in the process. You run off, dedicating your life to revenge. Imagine. Now you begin to see something of what so many in Palestine feel today. Why children confront Israeli tanks and snipers with stones. Why young men and women strap on dynamite and walk onto Israeli buses, ready to die. They have so little left to live for. To our everlasting shame, America's Congress yesterday authorized Bush the Second to wage war against Iraq and then against whomever else he wishes. This, despite informal polls showing American public opinion running about a hundred to one against this ill-advised war. Polls published in the controlled media, of course, show popular support for this aggression against a country that has done absolutely nothing to America or its legitimate interests. Osama bin Laden lashed out at the United States a year ago, saying that every single American would be held responsible for the acts of the American Government. Most Americans laughed that off at the time. Most today consider it an illogical proposition. After all, we don't hate Iraqis...it's that evil Saddam we're really after. That's why we're about to kill so many innocent Iraqis, of course, just as we killed so many innocent Afghans before them, in fruitless pursuit of bin Laden. And so many innocent Serbs before them...and Somalis before them...and Bin Laden was right, you know. Even though most of us don't vote any more, we should be held accountable for what our erstwhile leaders do. As between the average Iraqi and the average American, who is more culpable, really? Who let them get where they are? Who lets them stay there? That is the justification for actions against the general populace, and it has merit. Who else has access to the heads of America's government? How much pain will we sustain before we rise up and change our leadership? We are about to find out, I suspect. And we deserve it. America defends its own acts of warfare, waged with cruise missiles and bombs, whereby so many civilians are slaughtered, by saying they were unavoidable casualties, unfortunate byproducts of our pursuit of military targets. As if those people somehow are less dead than all the WTC victims. When cornered, anybody fights with whatever is available. The Iraqis and the Palestinians are cornered. Terrorism is not indefensible
[CTRL] Good Article
-Caveat Lector- http://www.hermes-press.com/reactionism.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?
-Caveat Lector- Because they know who it is! The Mermaid xx - Original Message - From: Prudy L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/2002 6:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why isn't the government calling this aterrorist act?They don't think the shooter is a Moslem Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fatois
-Caveat Lector- Iraq have called a fatois on george Bush if he starts a war with iraq lol lol The last fatois called was on Salman Rushdie over in this country and the guy hid away for five years.. his life was a misery.We had MI6 guarding him around the clock!What will old Dubya do now?Run to daddie..I dont think so...He cant hide behind his body guards forever either.It will be a brave or foolish man who calls war with a price on his head!!!I rather think the latter would apply in this case. Does he have a double like Saddam...if he doesnt he ought to get one and fast. Moslems take their fatois very seriously indeed..Islam maybe a peaceful religion but it does not tolerate scum! The Mermaid xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jim Marrs
-Caveat Lector- printer friendly versionGraphic Alternative To The Official LieAn Interview With Jim MarrsBy Ericca Festehttp://www.conspiracycafe.comIn November of 2001 Jim Marrs author of the best selling novel 'Rule By Secrecy' , 'Alien Agenda' and 'Crossfire' was stranded with the rest of us during an ice storm at the cafe. I was able to ask him several questions about current events and his new upcoming book 'Sisterhood of the Rose'.Jim; how's the new book coming along? What can you tell us about it?The new book, "Sisterhood of the Rose" is finished and now I am in the midst of the editing and revision process. With any luck it should be on the book shelves some time later next year. I think you will enjoy it. It concerns a group of women who form a secret society to win World War II for the Allies and it tells a lot of truth about the Nazis and their search for occult objects, Solomon's lost treasure and the Ark of the Covenant, the Cathars and Knights Templar and the truth behind the mystery of Rennes le Chateau in southern France.There have been so many discrepencies in the media about what's really going on in this 'War On Terror' what's your take? My take is pretty well spelled out in my article "War on Terrorism: Fact or Fiction?" It can be found on my website, JimMarrs.com. If you only take into account the mainstream news accounts since Sept. 11, the view looks one way. But, ifone takes the larger historical view, one finds many similarities between our current "war" and past conflicts. For example, just consider:In 1898, the US Battleship Maine blew up in Havana Harbor killing 260 persons and igniting the Spanish-American War. The American government blamedthe explosionon the Spanish, but they LIED.In 1915, the US government sought to galvanize the public into war by blaming the sinking of the liner Lusitania solely on Germany but they LIED.In 1941, The US Government was most successful in stampeding a reluctant American public into World War II by claiming mit had no prior knowledge of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, but they LIED.In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson was granted war-making powers by a Congress angered over a reported attack on the U.S. Sixth Fleet in the Gulf of Tonkin off the coast of Vietnam. The report was a LIE.In 1991, Saddam Hussein was proclaimed the "new Hitler" by President George Bush, who claimed Hussein's movement into Kuwait was unexpected. He LIED as it later turned out that the American Ambassador, acting on orders, had given Saddam a green light for this action.There are too many troubling aspects of the Sept. 11 attack --- the fact that the bin Laden family and the Bush family have so many business and social connections being one of them --- to take this provocation at face value. In recent article distributed by the Associated Press (http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=15394 ) Larry Flynt of 'Hustler' magazine is sueing the US Military because they are not permitting his journalists to cover the war in Afghanistan. Now with all issues of taste, smut etc.. aside how can they bar the media from covering a war?The Vietnam War ended because of growing public opposition in the United States, based primarily on the nightly news reports from the battle zone. While many reporters simply took official handouts in the Saigon hotels, many more actually moved with the troops and recorded the day to day operations. The result was quite sobering to the public. In the Gulf War, the military saw to it that few reporters ventured beyond the official briefing tent. Today, in Afghanistan there is virtually no independent reporting. The only difference between Larry Flynt and CNN, NBC, CBS and ABC is that Flynt is raising hell over the military's suppression of the news, while the others have rolled over and played dead. But then, one must understand that the people who control US foreign policy are the same people who own the major news corporations. If our government was to fully utilize the talents of our nations Remote Viewers - what impact do you think it wouldhaveonthewar?Here again is a good example of the government keeping secrets from the public. I know of at least three competent remote viewers who have mentioned remote-controlled aircraft in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks. Perhaps this is why the government officially has denied using remote viewing and has denigrated its usefulness. If private citizens could band together to learn and practice RV, there could be a whole new avenue opened to bypass government deceit. Any thoughts on what the 'second wave' of terrorism will be?I don't even wish to think about it because the next round will be biological (anthrax or smallpox) or nuclear (the proverbial suitcase bomb, some 27 of which are missing from the Russian inventory). Ironically, I believe such attacks will only be made if the current "war" with its
[CTRL] SNIPER
-Caveat Lector- Dont you get this feeling that this sniper attacking Maryland and surrounding areas is a little surreal. We havent had a lot of news on it here but from what I gather the reason they say they have not captured this man is because he uses a high velocity long range gun. Surely this is a nonsense! These sort of guns hav been used before in assasinations and mass shootings and they have always caught the perpertrator even though we know the person captured is either mind controlled or innocent. Why is this so different? We were treated to a duo report today one on what is happening out there and i could feel the fear of the people,and two a piece on sniper clubs and their popularity out there. Which leads us to question is this a test in fear and reaction of the public to such a crime thereby whipping up an anti gun feeling so as to stop this popular sniper club following? When We had this shooting in dunblaine in Scotland there was no discussion with gun clubs they just went ahead and banned handguns which further fuelled the black market for more business.If someone wants a gun badly enough they will find it in my opinion and this knee jerk reaction of the british government has to be seen as an outright intimidation of people rights. An unarmed public is a public at the mercy of the power brokers.We cannot defend ourselves in a crisis and that I believe is the key to this. The British people put up and shut up but the american citizens who have held guns for years to protect themselves may not give in so easily. So is this sniper situation being theatrically staged to bring fear to America and a way of forcing the people to vote guns out. After all what are a few dead people in comparison to 9/11! If they can do this to thousands of their own people in 9/11 then this is just fun in a candy shop! The Mermaid England x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush The Deaf
-Caveat Lector- Im glad I am not living in Amrica at the moment if I did I would have to keep the television off.Is this man Bush Deaf or retarded, Drunk, power mad, or just plain thick!!! He has been invited over to Iraq to see for himself so why doesnt he go!!! And why isnt anyone making him go. He stands there in front of his ruddy Podium spouting war on Iraq in slurred incomprehensible speech regardless of what he is told and it just makes me sick. Ive watched Hitlers speeches from the past and at least he had balls and strength of conviction this disgusting little slime Ball Bush is like a child banging on the floor with his latest Tonka toy crying WAR! How you poor American people can put up day after day with this revolting uncharismatic drunken sleazy ingratiate Ill never know.Why doesnt somebody do 'im in and shut him up? The Mermaid x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [RMNEWS2] Fwd: SHAME ON YOU!!! (Letter to Representative)
-Caveat Lector- Good for this guy I hope many more come forward and tell the ruddy truth about the last gulf war.I was shocked the last time war was declared on Iraq its absolute madness.The world has gone ruddy mad Bush is sodding mad Blair is sodding mad Sharon is ruddy mad and russia are being blackmailed today by Blair bcause Iraq owe them billions, and they will probably be assured to recoup their money if this war goes ahead and they agree to it. 9/11 was just an excercise to see who these creatures could get to back them.Iraq was on the agenda from the start even before 9/11,all those lives wasted just for an excercise These creeps dont care about lives they are only interested in a bigger agenda.They dont have to fight they just sit back with their high and mighty lifestyles and watch these poor bas* get shot to pieces. Grr read the piece below and just hope that this guy gets his message across before they put a bullet in him. The Mermaid Subject: [RMNEWS2] Fwd: SHAME ON YOU!!! (Letter to Representative) This was the letter I wrote to my Representative regarding the Iraq warresolution. As far as I'm concerned the gloves are off. Since all ofthese people are up for re-election (except for those who already lostprimaries or who are retiring), I suggest you check the roll-call foryour representative and consider if you want to cast your vote to fireyour representative accordingly. If so, feel free to use any of thelanguage I've used in my letter. Or not. *evil grin*http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2002rollnumber=455elizabeth(still fuming)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another Scientist!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Area 51 Scientist - Jeff's Guest Tomorrow Night - Reported Dead This must be at least 12 by now that they have bumped off what on earth do they know?? The Mermaid xxx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: US planes sprayed Wiltshire with Sarin
-Caveat Lector- Well now isnt this an interesting article Kris I lived in Wiltshire in the 60's and guess what I had a lung collapse and they couldnt figure out why it happened!!! Now I know why !!Dont these idiots realise that this was probably spread by the wind and the damage it probably cause to hundreds of people!Of course they do they dont care we are the guinea pigs! The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: US planes sprayed Wiltshire with Sarin -Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A different kind of oil!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- The latest here in England is that the welsh pople are being threatened woth 7 year jail sentences!!! (JUST LET THEM TRY AND PUT SOMEONE AWAY FOR THIS) HA HA WHY because they dare to buy cooking oil (which is now rationed) and fill up their engines in their cars and run them without paying tax to the government (Laughs out Loud) Im in stitches here I think it has got the government on the run! POWER TO THE PEOPLE YEH!! A JUBILANT MERMAID A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Watch Out America!
-Caveat Lector- 17:23 2002-07-01 CHINA HAS A DEADLY NEW WEAPONChina has created more problems for the United States. To be more precise, China has created another weapon for Washington to be afraid of. The other day, Chinas air force held a successful test of a new air-to-air missile code named AA 12 Adder. On the whole, the situation is quite ordinary, as many countries hold such tests. The USA itself is actively working on a National Missile Defense system, irrespective of other countries interests. However, the USA explains its anxiety the following way: Washington thinks that the fact that China has modern missiles can break the balance between continental China and Taiwan. Before the test, US special services could not say for certain whether or not China had missiles of this kind or not. It is to be added here that the missiles tested by Chinas air force are Russian-made, supplied together with SU-30 fighters. As of now, according to the contract, 80 fighters have already been supplied to the Chinese air force. As a response, the Pentagon wants to supply missiles similar to the AA-12 Adder to Taiwan. This may entail Chinas accusation of the US interference in internal affairs. There is no way out for Washington, as it is a guarantor of Taiwans security. Therefore, China and the USA have another reason for disputes. At the same time, it would not be correct to say that new missile tests by the Chinese air force may result in a sudden chill in bipartite relations. Beijing and Washington really appreciate their economic relations, and they will no wage a small cold war because of missile tests. Vasily Bubnov PRAVDA.Ru Translated by Maria Gousseva A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om aa12250.gif Description: GIF image
[CTRL] So who is the terrorist here????
-Caveat Lector- 19:07 2002-10-09 Pentagon to Test New Toys on Iraq The United States is developing new weapons, violating its international obligationsAmericas coming military campaign against Iraq definitely has the goal gaining possession of Iraqi oil. There are other objectives as well. America needs to test its new weapons. The military and technological advantage of the United States needs to continue to grow. Iraq will be the best testing ground. Americas defense department is doing its best to invent more lethal toys that will bring as much good as possible during another war in the Gulf. The Pentagon is conducting secret research to develop and test new kinds of non-lethal chemical weapons. This was reported by Jan van Aken, the head of Germany-based Sunshine Project. According to Mr. Aken, it is not ruled out that the new weapons might be used for the first time in Baghdad. Van Aken pointed out that the new weapons will not kill the enemy, but it will cause soldiers to fall asleep. However, there is the possibility of these substances killing human beings or disabling them. A special division of the non-lethal weapon administration of the US Defense Ministry deals with the development of the new chemical weapons. Sunshine Project believes that the USA deliberately violates the International Convention for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. Another serious infringement of the US is the way that these weapons will be used. The chemical is supposed to be packed in mines. All the projects connected with the development of the new weapons are top secret. The Pentagon realizes that this is a serious violation of American international obligations. Another priority weapon in Iraq is allegedly called "Excalibur." This is another kind of a smart weapon that is controlled via a Global Positioning System. The error margin of such shells is no more than ten meters. The current error margin is 300 meters. Therefore, it will take only three of these shells to demolish a bridge, whereas it would take 150 of the old shells used to accomplish the same. The Excalibur's range is more than 50 kilometers. Military units can use this shell from behind mountains or other natural obstacles. Excalibur is currently being developed. These new shells will be added to the US military's arsenal in 2006. The only drawback of the new shell is its price. One shell will reportedly cost up to $25 thousand. The American defense department also wishes to accelerate the development of a launcher that for the multiple launch of guided missiles. This launcher with a range of 50 kilometers will be installed on an armored caterpillar-type vehicle. The price is a constraining factor. This project has already gone beyond the scope of the budget. The US Defense Department is also spending much money on nanotechnology research (atomic-level technologies). More than $200 million were assigned for such research in 2003 ($180 in 2002, $123 in 2001, and $70 in 2000). For the time being, nanotechnologies are used by the US Navy. There are currently various directions of this research. Nanoelectronics deals with the reduction of size and weight of electronic devices. Nanomaterial technology develops materials of unique capacities. There is also bionanotechnology: combining the capacities of a living cell and those of an artificial device. Egor Belous PRAVDA.Ru Translated by Dmitry Sudakov A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om 1015720563.gif Description: GIF image
[CTRL] Ian Huntley
-Caveat Lector- There has been much talk by Joe Vials as to the possible frame up of Maxine Carr and Ian Huntley.Today He appeared in court for a judge to decide whether or not he was able to face charges in court. The psychiatrists report said he was not mentally unstable and they have now decided he can appear in court in November with Maxine Carr. The strange thing is the guy was described as being hunchbacked in court head down shaking all the time he was standing in the dock and the only thing he moved was his eyebrows up and down. Does this sound like the Ian Huntley who appeared on TV a couple of months ago? My guess is he has been mind controlled by drugs and beatings at Rampton. He is now in Prison and not going back to Rampton. I still cannot get my head around this case.No reports on the cause of death of these two girls and yet they were buried for gods sake how many people are allowed to be buried without a cause of death in these circumstances! The whole thing stinks of a frame up. The Mermaid x A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [RobotsRebellion2] Are you good at puzzles? Can you solve this one? Are you Vinny?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Stephanie Whyte To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: [RobotsRebellion2] Are you good at puzzles? Can you solve this one? Are you Vinny? To view the broken links, you will need to type the urls into your web browser (address box) THE PERPLEXING PUZZLE OF THE PUBLISHED PASSENGER LISTSby Gary North Maybe you like puzzles. I hope so. I don't like them. I regard them as a challenge, not a game. I avoid them because, when I cannot find a solution, my mind won't stop working on them. Then I get very frustrated. So, Iavoid magic shows, crossword puzzles, and similar brain- twisters. Yet I am also a historian with a Ph.D. Historians are trained to solve puzzles with insufficient pieces. Historians never have all of the evidence that they would like in order to come up with a coherent explanation of what happened. They always want another piece in the puzzle before they go into print. (Of course, once they go into print, they will tend to reject any newly discovered piece that messes up their version of the completed puzzle.) At some point, they are supposed to come to a conclusion. They are supposed to make a judgment about what happened. I am presently stuck. So, I am sending out this report. Maybe there is someone my list who can get me unstuck. Years ago, I saw a movie, "My Cousin Vinnie." Vinnie was studying to be a lawyer. He wasn't a good classroom student, but he had a unique ability. He could figure out how things fit together. Show him a magic trick, and hecould tell you how the magician did it. Tell him a story with a missing link, and he could identify where the missing link was, and maybe what it was. He could solve puzzles. I am trying to locate Vinnie. This puzzle is no game. The United States has gone to war on the basis of one solution to this puzzle. We have not yet been told what this solution is. The puzzle begins with the crash of four airliners. We must work our way backward from this. To do this, I decided to begin with official information that was published 16 days after the attack. To work my way backwards, I first leaped forward.ALLEGED HIJACKERS On September 27, the Associated Press released a story about the hijackers. The version that I read, published in the ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION, referred to these men as alleged hijackers. I shall do the same. I located this article by using www.daypop.com. Daypop is the most complete archive of recent news stories on the Web. Daypop allows you to search for stories that are up to four weeks old. I searched for "passenger list" and "hijackers." Daypop produced three pages of links -- not that many. Almost all of these links were to the same AP story, which was published by numerous on-line news sources. Here isthe version I used.http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/nation/0927hijackerlist.html The headline reads: "FBI releases updated list of alleged hijackers." Above the headline is a link that says, "Click here to see 19 suspected hijackers." I clicked it. A large box popped up. It took a while for the photos to appear. There are 19 photos, along with names. The names appear to be Middle Eastern -- Arabs. Most of the men look like Arabs, although a few might pass as Mexicans. Only one of them looked vaguely like a European. They are divided into four lists, according to which flight they are said to have boarded. There were five men on American Airlines Flight 77, five on AA Flight 11, five on United Airlines Flight 175, and four on UA Flight 93 -- the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania. Let's return to the AP story itself. We read the following: As Attorney General John Ashcroft launched a "national neighborhood watch" with the release of the photos, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that questions remained about whether an accompanying list contained the true names of the 19. "What we are currently doing is determining whether, when these individuals came to the United States, these were their real names or they changed their names for use with false identification in the United States," Mueller said. The FBI director said there was evidence that one or more of the hijackers had had contacts with al-Qaida, the network associated with Osama bin Laden, the exiled Saudi millionaire who is the Bush administration's top suspect in the attacks. This story indicates that, as of
[CTRL] Icke interview on New Book
-Caveat Lector- MAJOR INTERVIEW with DAVID ICKE about his latest book:"ALICE IN WONDERLAND and THE WORLD TRADE CENTER DISASTER http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om alice140.jpg
[CTRL] Fw: [RobotsRebellion2] Hoffman's Take on the D.C. Sniper
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Cinnermann To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: [RobotsRebellion2] Hoffman's Take on the D.C. Sniper Oct. 8, 2002--Contents:1. The Part Buchanan Left Out2. Hoffman's Take on the D.C. Sniper-The Part Buchanan Left OutKnight of Malta Pat Buchanan serves up some intriguing quotes from Zionists Norman Podhoretz and Michael Ledeen in his Oct. 7 column, "On to Baghdad - and beyond," but Pat doesn't do much with them, other than repeat a version of his old "Amen Corner" lament. This doesn't surprise me because Buchanan is as co-opted and double-minded as most any other Establishment media celebrity. On his MSNBC cable chat show two Fridays back, Mr. Buchanan disapproved of any obstacle to the canonization of a homosexual priest who died at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Buchanan said the priest's "orientation" should not bar him from being made a saint. Buchanan would never have pronounced such a grotesquerie even five years ago. But in 2002 he's content to countenance a Catholic patron saint of homos, and this in the midst of an escalating scandal over pederastic priests. Here's a revealing quote Buchanan dug up from Zionist Michael Ledeen's book, "War Against the Terror Masters." Ledeen writes:"Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity, which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace...We must destroy them to advance our historic mission."This statement from Ledeen, a leader of the American neo-conservative movement, offers a revealing glimpse into the psyche of the anarchist-revolutionaries whose roots go back to the Lower East Side of New York City and the ghettos of eastern Europe, and who today are heading the conservative campaign "for our American heritage" (as fabricated and repackaged by these energetic whirlwinds of "creative destruction"). But Mr. Buchanan fails to point out the obvious--that there is a glaring exception to Ledeen's admonition about the need for relentless change. His vision of tearing down the old order refers to the ancient Islamic and Christian orders, not the Judaic. The Talmud's poisonous base, the oral "tradition of the elders," predates Mohammed and is old enough to have bedeviled Christ (who condemned it in Mark 7 and Matthew 15). Orthodox Judaism continues to build the antique Talmudic order in Palestine, New York, Los Angeles, London, Antwerp and Washington, D.C. and many mega-capitalists regard its pathways as hallowed, its traditions as sacrosanct. They proffer wads of corporate, buccaneer cash to keep Judaism's ancient literature and law forever preserved as an impregnable society and culture. Ledeen has no intention of including the Judaic old order in his modern American wrecking agenda. All other heritages are ordained to fall under the progressive footsteps of Hollywood, Pepsi, porn and, if need be, the bombs of the US Air Force (as we saw in Kosovo, where the American military and NATO targeted centuries-old Serbian churches and monasteries, even on Good Friday and Easter Sunday). Former Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, the darling of American "values" conservatives such as William Bennett, recently advocated broadcasting softcore cable TV porn into Islamic nations, to weaken them. In "The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians," Moshe Lieberman and this writer cite accounts of the Israeli Army broadcasting pornography into Arab homes last spring after Zionist troops seized a Palestinian television station.Buchanan knows at least some of this, but will not give these facts voice, because, while it is open season on Mohammed "the terrorist" and Islam "the wicked religion," so-called conservatives dare not refer to the religion of the Talmud as wicked or expose it for what it is. How, pray tell, might Pat Buchanan give voice to a balancing corrective about Judaism, when he continues to laud in his writings the spurious "Judeo-Christian tradition," referring repeatedly to the need to save "our Judeo-Christian heritage." As I show in my book "Judaism's Strange Gods," this "Judeo" ideology (i.e. Judaism) was institutionalized only after the crucifixion of Christ and the destruction of the Temple, when the majority of Israel chose the perverted innovation that was rabbinic Phariseeism over the Messiah of Israel and the Old Testament's prophetic fulfillment in His Messianic Covenant. Judaism, with its hyper-bureaucracy and totalitarian control emanating from the Talmud, and its superstition and occult gnosis as embedded in the Kabbalah, is not the
[CTRL] Fw: [RMNEWS2] ISRAELI CAMMANDOS IN WESTERN IRAQ
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Spiritual Piglet To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: [RMNEWS2] ISRAELI CAMMANDOS IN WESTERN IRAQ http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=23811Israeli Commandos in Western IraqPosted By: ChristopherBollyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, 5 October 2002, 3:29 p.m.In Response To: Re: Israeli Commandos in Western Iraq (JanL)http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=23807The idea that Israel would stage a "provocation incident" cannot be soeasily dismissed as "rubbish".The Israeli military intelligence has carried out many such instances in thepast although the New York Times does not always report them as such.Zionist history is full of terror, bombings, and massacres, many of whichwere meant as provocation for some strategic advantage. There is evidencethat some of the bombings in Israel were such staged events. The car bomb inJerusalem which later became a "suicide bomber" may have been one of these.The attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 Americans died in 1967 was onesuch event, the intention was to create hostility between Egypt and the USAby attacking a defenseless U.S. Navy vessel in neutral waters.The Israeli prior knowledge of the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirutand the prior knowledge of the WTC attacks (e.g. Odigo instant messageswarning of the 911 attacks which arrived in Tel Aviv hours before thebuildings were bombed) are others. Israeli prior knowledge of the attacks onthe WTC is certain."Little Drummer Girl" by John LeCarre is all about Mossad faked-bombings inGermany for political/strategic advantage.Benjamin Netanyzhu, the author of "The War on Terror: How the West Can Win"(1986) and Ariel Sharon play that kind of game. It is wishful thinking todeny that they would carry out a provocative incident in order to"kick-start" the war against Iraq that they so desperately want.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Go to sleep children
-Caveat Lector- GO TO SLEEP, CHILDRENThu Oct 3 20:54:49 2002206.243.39.181Since the end of WWII, and the implementation ofProject Paperclip in which thousands of Nazi scientists,propagandists, doctors and intelligence officers weresmuggled into this country with the help of the Vatican'sCIA, our nation has gone downhill morally andspiritually. Freedom is an illusion. Totalitarian Control iscovert, but becoming more overt by the week and themedia is more manipulated now than at any time in history. The NationalSecurity State uses the media to pass false information to cover up itstracks, and real news rarely gets told the way it is. At best, it is spun anddistorted so that it bears little resemblance to the truth or to anythingremotely real. Important and vital information is left out entirely such asthe ongoing smuggling of drugs by the CIA or the secretive doings of theCouncil on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg cabal. And the majorityof people have been so brainwashed by this system, that they canscarcely detect a lie, or the absence of truth, even when it is blatantlyobvious to those who are still able to question and maintain a healthyskepticism. In the case of 911, the media has been used to create what Admiral Lemnitzerdescribed in Operation Northwoods as "a helpful wave of indignation",to put it mildly. Atta's passport flying out of the WTC crash to land on the street, Islamic"religious articles" discovered in the Pentagon, Korans and flightmanuals found in rental cars, evil box-cutter-wielding highjackers,heroic cell-phone calls to loved ones, the WTC towers collapsing fromplane crashes they were designed to withstand... And please ignore the 8 mile debris path of Flight 93, ignore the completelack of interceptors (except for flight 93 of course) on that Day of Infamy,ignore the expert maneuvers of the planes flown by guys that could barelyfly single engine prop jobs, ignore the fact that the Pentagon planned asimilar Operation in 1962, ignore the fact that Bush stated clearly on twooccasions that he had witnessed the crash of Flight 11 "on television",ignore his executive order W199-I and the fact that Daddy Bush and theBin Ladin family benefit financially from a War on Humanity. Ignore alsothe Enabling...sorry..."Patriot" Act that strips the Constitution of the 4thand Fifth Amendments and for the New World Order's sake, pleaseignore the fact that at least one of the bin Ladin videos was a completefake, was withheld from the public for four weeks after its "discovery" bythe Pentagon, then released to the masses of true believers for theircontinued mental dupery. And don't forget, Mr Bush and President...er Imean, VICE-President Cheney have ordered Congress to refrain frominvestigating the events of 911. So go to sleep children, go to sleep, big Mommy Federal Governmentand Her complicit media shills will make sure you don't have to thinkabout any of this. Just listen to the stories from "official sources" and get tosleep. After all, it happened such a long time ago. And now we are at warwith the Evil Ones, so we have to forget about the past and go to sleep! NORTHSTAR A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BUZZ
-Caveat Lector- Buzz Aldrin Strikes a Blow for Elitism by William A. Shields NOTE: Originally published at EtherZone.com If you walk on the moon, then according to California prosecutors, you are truly above the law. Case in point - Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin punches a man in the face, the act caught on videotape, and prosecutors in the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office blame the victim and refuse to prosecute the batterer. Mr. Aldrin, the only person to have ever resided in New Jersey and visited the surface of the moon without the use of any mind altering pharmaceuticals will not be prosecuted for assault and battery, even though he clearly punched a man in the face who had asked him a question about his moon-walking. Bart Winfield Sibrel, who made TV documentaries and films claiming the Apollo 11 moon landing on July 20, 1969 was a hoax, videotaped the assault by Aldrin. He submitted the tape to Beverly Hills police and asked that charges be filed against Aldrin. No one is claiming that Mr. Sibrel's videotape (unlike NASA's) is anything other then an authentic depiction of actual events. Here's what the elitist L.A. prosecutors had to say about the two parties involved in this crime. The Criminal: (Buzz Aldrin) He has no previous criminal record. He left no visible injury on his victim. He's a "space hero." The Victim: (Bart Sibrel) He aggressively poked Aldrin with a Bible. He lured Aldrin to a meeting under false pretenses so he could interview the "space hero." He followed Aldrin with a Bible and called him a thief, liar and a coward. After being punched in the face he asked of his camera crew, "Did you get that?" He failed to seek any medical attention. The prosecutors, by refusing to prosecute and refusing to let a judge or jury decide the facts of this case, are doing the thinking for us, or they are trying to. They want us to put our brains on the shelf and adopt their conclusions about the two parties and by extension, their theories and agendas. My question is, "What are they afraid of?" My experience tells me that whenever someone asks you to suspend your intellect, they are preparing to pick your pocket or they are protecting a larceny already committed. Here's what they want you to believe: Buzz Aldrin is a hero who should be allowed to walk among us without so much as a transitory moment of mild aggravation caused by questions from dubious journalists with a bent toward conspiratorial paranoia. Mr. Sibrel is not a credible or legitimate journalist and his theories are so objectionable that whenever he speaks, he should be summarily punched in his grill. Should he have the temerity to seek criminal justice after such an episode, he will be laughed out of court regardless of any evidence of an actual crime. ASSAULT WITH A DEAD SEA WEAPON And what about that Bible? It seems that the prosecutors were salivating furiously with desire to place a weapon in Mr. Sibrel's hand, but alas, all that was there was a Bible. Not deterred, they simply made the Bible a weapon. "He followed Aldrin with a Bible and aggressively poked him with it." If this is true, why wasn't Mr. Sibrel charged with a crime? Elitism is alive and well in the halls of California justice and throughout the nation. There is justice for the rich and connected, and there is justice for the very rich and the well connected. The rest of us can expect a big slice of knuckle pie from the same evil bastards that brought us Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Warren Report. Perhaps it's time we took a closer look at Buzz Aldrin's moonwalk. He's acting like a man with something to hide, and he seems to be getting help from a government with much more at stake. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] carlyle group
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE #77 A LITERARY, POLITICAL AND PHILOSOPHICAL ONLINE MAGAZINE October 6, 2002 The Carlyle Group by Victor Thorn A few weeks ago, James Baker publicly offered advice to the Bush Administration on how they should proceed with their war on Iraq. What he and every newscaster or commentator failed to mention was that Baker is now employed by the highly-influential Carlyle Group, which is the eleventh largest defense contractor in the United States. In essence, then, we have a man trying to influence public policy while privately employed by a company that has a vested interest in activating Americas War Machine. If youre not familiar with them, the Carlyle Group has become a powerhouse in affecting the direction in which our foreign policy takes, especially in regard to war. They accomplish this by hiring former government officials, then investing in private companies that are subject to government change (i.e. the military and telecommunications). Who, you may ask, do they employ to secure their government contracts? Well, check-out this list for starters: Frank Carlucci Department of Health, Education and Welfare - 1970s Deputy Director, CIA 1978-81 Deputy Secretary of Defense 1981-82 National Security Director 1987-89 George Bush - CIA Director 1976-77 Vice President of the United States 1981-89 President of the United States 1989-93 James Baker - Chief of Staff 1981-85 Secretary of the Treasury 1985-89 Secretary of State 1989-93 Dick Darman - Former White House Budget Chief William Kennard - Former Head, FCC Arthur Levitt - Former Head, SEC John Major - Former Prime Minister, Britain Fidel Ramos - Former Philippine President Afsaneh Beschloss - Treasurer Chief Investment Officer of the World Bank Anand Panyarachum Former President, Thailand Karl Otto Pohl - Former President, Bundesbank Louis Vuitton - French Aerobus Company Park Tae Joon - Former South Korean Prime Minister Alwaleed Sin Talal bin Abdulaziz Alsaud Saudi Arabian Prince George Soros - New World Order/Bilderberg luminary intl financier Fred Malek - George Bush Srs campaign manager There is also one other family that invested in the Carlyle Group, but Ill keep that as a surprise for next weeks article. In the meantime, take a look at that list. Its like walking onto a baseball field and having the New York Yankees behind you. The best team money can buy! And I didnt even mention all of the players. Carlyle also employs the former chairman of BMW and Nestle, is interviewing former Clinton cabinet members (to insure that they have both sides of the aisle covered), plus once hired Colin Powell and AOL Time-Warner Chairman Steve Case to speak at a meeting at Washington D.C.s Monarch House. Plus, if we look at James Baker again, well find that hes on the board of Azerbaijan International Oil Company, in which two U.S. oil companies hold 40% of the shares. Who are these two companies? The first is Amoco, who has on their payroll none other than Zbigniew Brzezinski (Trilateral Commission founder, National Security Advisor for the Carter Administration, Globalist supreme, and David Rockefellers puppet on a string). The second is Pennzoil, who has on their payroll Brent Scowcroft, former National Security Advisor under George Bush, Sr. But the man that really brought it all together is Frank Carlucci, who holds directorships on such companies as General Dynamics, Westinghouse, the Rand Corporation, and Ashland Oil, plus sits on the board of directors of twelve other companies. Carlucci was also the college classmate of someone very closely related to our current administrations War Machine Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld! What relevance does this association have you may wonder? I think it is of great importance, for in February, 2001, Carlucci and Vice President Dick Cheney met with Donald Rumsfeld when the Carlyle Group had several billion-dollar defense projects under consideration. (If you havent guessed, the Carlyle Group fared quite well when all was said and done.) Do you still think these ties dont matter? Philip Agee, in his book On the Run details all of Carluccis CIA connections, many of whom he hired (along with his Pentagon cronies) when he joined Carlyle in 1989. (And all of us know what influence the CIA has, dont we?) A former Carlyle employee honed-in on these dynamics when he
[CTRL] Weeeeiiiird!
-Caveat Lector- someone sent me this during the night are you guys in the states following this? Dont you think this is strange what are the backgrounds of these people did they know something? Or is this just more mdia hype for gun control? It would be interesting to hear someones view on this from the other side of the pond? The Mermaid x Five Killed In Washington Suburb Shootings10-3-2WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Five people were killed in an apparently randomseries of shootings over several hours in a Washington suburb, police saidon Thursday.Police spokeswoman Nancy Nickerson said one woman and four men were killedin six separate shooting incidents that began at 5:20 p.m. EDT on Wednesday.The latest one was at 10 a.m. EDT on Thursday in Montgomery County,Maryland, which is north of Washington.Victims were killed in a 10-mile radius and police said they appeared to berandomly selected in busy public places.The first victim, who died on Wednesday, was a 55-year-old man shot in asupermarket parking lot. On Thursday a man mowing grass near a shopping mallwas killed. A taxi driver was killed while pumping gasoline, a woman wasshot sitting on a park bench outside a post office, and another victim wasshot at second gasoline station.The shootings began before the first murder, with a gun being fired througha store-front window, police said. No one was killed.Montgomery Police Chief Charles Moose said there was no obvious motive forthe killings, though they were believed to be linked."We strongly feel that all of these are connected. Certainly the weaponryseems very similar. There is not a lot of indication at this time that anyof these individuals know each other," Moose told reporters.Police were looking for a white delivery truck with black or purplelettering seen leaving the scene of one of the shootings. At least two whitetrucks were pulled over, with witnesses seeing two men in handcuffs on theside of the highway headed toward the Baltimore-Washington airport.Children at schools in the county were told they could not leave and outsideactivities were halted, officials said. Afternoon kindergarten classes werealso been canceled.Montgomery County is one of the richest counties in the United States,though several of the shootings occurred in less affluent sections. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om 093002_weather300x250_map.gif Description: GIF image rand=504579780 Description: Binary data
Re: [CTRL] [RMNEWS2] Israeli planes violate the Lebanese airspace
-Caveat Lector- This is an interesting development isnt it what are the americans and the israelis working up to here? Is it going to be an assault from both sides? Is this what they have planned...US goes into Iraq Israel goes into the lebanon.What a nice little cooking pot this is. What is happening in Jordan at the moment and Syria? They must have made some comment on this surely..I cant find anything though anyhwere! The Media here in england is getting worse all we see are bush and blair all the time...both of them are like the terrible twins.Mr Clinton Blairs ole buddy was very charismatic yesterday at the labour conference fancy him making a trip to england to back Mr Blair when more than half of the backbenchers are against any incursion on Iraq. Something stinks badly here!!! The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: L.R. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:04 AM Subject: [RMNEWS2] Israeli planes violate the Lebanese airspace http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/021002/2002100213.htmlIsraeli planes violate the Lebanese airspaceLebanon-Israel, Military, 10/2/2002 Lebanon said on Tuesday that the Israeli planes flew intensively and at low altitude in the Lebanese airspace over Beirut and other parts of the Lebanese territories and that the Lebanese Hizbullah party opened its anti- aircraft missiles against them.Lebanon explained that Israeli planes broke the sound barrier over the Lebanese capital Beirut for the first time since two months, saying that the Israeli warplanes flew over north Lebanon and the western Bekaa where the Syrian sources are deployed and broke the sound barrier over Tripoli and Baalbeck.The Israeli planes flew at a low altitude over all sectors of south Lebanon adjoining Israel and where the Hizbullah fighters are deployed.Lebanon stressed that the Israeli warplanes flying over South Lebanon was the heaviest since Israel's pullout from this area in May 2000 following 22 years of occupation Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] planes over syria/sharon in russia/and suntan lotion
-Caveat Lector- http://star.arabia.com/article/0,5596,200_5916,00.html So What is Sharon Doing in Russia? http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/021002/2002100201.html http://www.news-journalonline.com/2002/Oct/2/AREA1.htm And dont foget the suntan lotion boys! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] mail Test
-Caveat Lector- Ive posted emails 8 hours ago and they are still not through tolists are any other Brits suffering from delayed mail? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/beirut.htmldid israel deliberately allow 241 americans marines die? http://wdjiii.tripod.com/wdjiii3/id1.html Latest from David jenkins A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] well I never did!!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general30/iug.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: God this is so Funny!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Candidate turned himself blue 'I tell them I'm practicing for Halloween' Wednesday, October 2, 2002 Posted: 11:48 PM EDT (0348 GMT) Jones' skin condition is permanent, but generally is not serious. Story Tools GREAT FALLS, Montana (AP) -- Montana's Libertarian candidate for Senate has turned blue from drinking a silver solution that he believed would protect him from disease. Stan Jones,a 63-year-old business consultant and part-time college instructor, said he started taking colloidal silver in 1999 for fear that Y2K disruptions might lead to a shortage of antibiotics. He made his own concoction by electrically charging a couple of silver wires in a glass of water. His skin began turning blue-gray a year ago. "People ask me if it's permanent and if I'm dead," he said. "I tell them I'm practicing for Halloween." He does not take the supplement any longer, but the skin condition, called argyria, is permanent. The condition is generally not serious. Colloidal silver dietary supplements are marketed widely as an anti-bacterial agent or immune-system booster, but some consider it quackery. Jones is one of three candidates seeking to unseat Democratic Sen. Max Baucus in November. The others are Republican state Sen. Mike Taylor and Green Party candidate Bob Kelleher. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om 1.gif Description: GIF image story.blue.canidate.ap.jpg h-s-icon-l.gif Description: GIF image h-s-text-l.gif Description: GIF image h-e-icon-l.gif Description: GIF image h-e-text-l.gif Description: GIF image h-p-icon-l.gif Description: GIF image h-p-text-l.gif Description: GIF image h-mp-icon-l.gif Description: GIF image h-mp-text-l.gif Description: GIF image
[CTRL] Fw: [RobotsRebellion2] America,its people-silent,subservient,no voice,no will
-Caveat Lector- This a good article on the american people it backs up what infowarz said yesterday in a nutshell.Actually the british people are just the same I think hard about pointing the finger at Mind control technology but if we are all being targeted by a silent deadly unseen force then it is certainly working. The information on Project monarch would certainly explain away this lack of arousal in The americans and british and dont forget the social conditioning in America which is happening very slowly in this country.The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: Stephanie Whyte To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: [RobotsRebellion2] America,its people-silent,subservient,no voice,no will America, its peoplesilent, subservient, no voice, no will By Ken HillmanOnline Journal Contributing Writer September 26, 2002Watching America today, I can hardly believe what I see. I see a nation, a society and its people, that appear to be in a state of paralysis. In the past 18 months this nation has been completely transformed. This current, totally misguided administration has turned our nation a full 180 degrees in the wrong direction and is running roughshod over the entire worldthe American people have watched all this happen and have reacted with complete silence, subservience and submissiveness. No great concern, no voice, no will. In this critical, dangerous challenge to the future of our great country and the entire world, Americans should be totally outraged by what they see and hear. Yet America passively watches while our new-style unilateralist, belligerent government cancels important treaties such as the ABM, walks away from global warming; we watch as environmental controls are rescinded to let corporate polluters make greater profits as they poison our air and water. Where is the outrage, where is our voice? Corporate criminals are running looseEnron, Anderson, WorldCom, many others. Millions of Americans have lost most of their 401Ks' value, their stocks have crashed, and in many cases their savings are gone. Many thousands of employees in many companies are being dismissed at the same time that the unconscionable CEOs are pocketing multi-millions of unearned dollars. We are in an economic crisis, a rapid downward spiral. This administration has given huge tax relief to the wealthy, has squandered a gigantic surplus and is in the process of creating huge deficits. And it now wants war, badly! And how is the typical American reacting? With total outrage and disgust, screaming that enough is enough and "we aren't going to take it anymore?" Absolutely not. There is not even a whimper, not even a sigh coming from Americans. No, we Americans are now so completely conditioned that we understand that we must stay completely silent. We have been told that we better not speak out; if we do, we will be considered traitors. We should remember Patrick Henry who said "Give me liberty or give me death." Has the 9/11 tragedy caused this complete silence and acceptance of the most outrageous and irresponsible directions by any government in the entire history of our nation? Maybe, and maybe not. I am not able, so far, to figure it out. Nor do I read any great analyses by writers, including those with psychology backgrounds, who might be able to explain this phenomenon. Speaking of 9/11, we Americans are passively watching this administration beat the drums of war against Iraq and Saddam, the acknowledged dictator. But when we hear that 15 of the 19 WTC terrorists were Saudi Arabians, and we also know that the Saudis have been the biggest contributors to Osama bin Laden and his terrorists, do we even start to wonder what the hell is going on? Do we simply accept the fact that about 10 members of the Saudi bin Laden family left America on a chartered jet soon after the WTC, that flight hastily initiated and allowed by our current administration? I repeat, I cannot believe what is happening in America, especially what I hear or do not hear. Actually, I hear nothi
[CTRL] : Sick B*******!!!!
not get better for Eric Harris aftermoving to Littleton--located within hailing distance of what isprobably the PRIMARY New World Order power base and nervecenter in the entire North American continent DENVER, Colorado.This poor kid was less than TEN years old where his family first gotto Plattsburgh and the ongoing brutalization began. The additionalhorror is that he KNEW what was being done to him and wasPOWERLESS to stop it! A BOY! A defenseless boy!THIS is what the New World Order has in store for ALL of us andfor all our children.What's more, implicated here WITHOUT ANY DOUBT in the"procurement" and psychological devastation of Eric Harris is theboy's father, Air Force spook Wayne Harris. (Wayne Harris hasalready been exposed as having been well involved with themanufacture and testing af various explosive materials with his sonAND as having had significant input to eric's website and Internetactivities. This miserable worm willingly and knowingly gave his sonover to these satanic spook slugs for their horrifying projects. Heliterally SACRIFICED HIS SON to the devil. WE find indications ofsimilar complicity on the part Air Force parents in the currentsituation involving the L.A. "Jewish Center" shooter Buford Furrow,and the Atlanta-area mass murderer Mark Barton. As well, Atlanta(Conyers) SCHOOL shooter T.J. Solomon (who hears mechanized,robotic mental commands to kill) spent a number of vacations inclose proximity to Plattsburgh AFB.One more quite interesting note in closing. Eric Harris, based on hisown personal and direct knowledge of such through his exposure tothe shadowy realms of covert government projects, repeatedlyspoke to this buddy in Plattsburgh of the impending "takeover" ofour democratic republic by the global forces of darkness, oppressionand enslavement.© 1999 John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. (The rights of UNALTEREDreproduction/distribution hereby waived.) God Id like to get these B***!! They are sick sick sick!!G The Mermaid xx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] soliders commit suicide..Mind Control?
-Caveat Lector- this is an article from Guardian unlimited written in June this year 4 soldiers have commited suicide in army baracks and the body of collinson is being exhumed today with the consent of his parents they do not believe their son committed suicide, I hope they get to the bottom of this.In my mind it smacks of mind control. And what about your busdriver in the states?We did not get much news on this here in england.It is the second one to occur over there is this mind control as well? Delta Programming known as killer programming has been used to train special agents and elite soldiers in covert operations. Subjects are devoid of fear and very systematic in carrying out their assignments.Self destructor suicide instructions are layered in at this level. The Mermaid x Key evidence on deaths of soldiers destroyed Nick Hopkins, crime correspondentFriday July 26, 2002The Guardian Crucial evidence at the heart of reinvestigation into the mysterious deaths of two soldiers at an army barracks in Surrey has been destroyed, the Guardian has learned. Surrey police's inquiry into the shootings of privates Geoff Gray and James Collinson has been severely hampered because clothes and documents relating to rifles have not been kept by the army. In the case of Pte Gray, 17, detectives were particularly keen to re-examine the gloves he was wearing on the night he died, as well as other items of his kit. But police have been told all these possessions have been destroyed. Relatives of the two soldiers have challenged the army's assertion that the two teenagers committed suicide when they were based at the Queen Elizabeth barracks, headquarters of the Royal Logistics Corps at Deepcut, Surrey. Pte Gray died in September last year and Pte Collinson in March this year. The relatives have demanded a public inquiry and they are bound to be dismayed by the latest developments. Concern about the circumstances of the deaths, which were originally investigated by the army's special investigation branch, led Surrey police to launch its own inquiry involving 30 officers. Since then, the force has also agreed to reinvestigate the deaths of two other soldiers, privates Sean Benton, 20, and Cheryl James, 18, who died at the Deepcut base within six months of each other in 1995. Earlier this month, the Commons defence committee declared it intended to launch its own inquiry into all four deaths once detectives had completed their work. Loss of evidence in the cases of Pte Gray and Pte Collinson has frustrated police efforts. A senior army officer has told the inquiry that all Pte Gray's clothes had been destroyed. Log books recording serial numbers of the SA-80 rifles he and Pte Collinson were as signed on the days they died were also destroyed within hours of the shootings. This means Surrey police cannot corroborate whether the weapons that were found by their bodies were their own, or were assigned to other soldiers at the base. Detectives also discovered that the rifle found alongside the body of Pte Gray had been earmarked for destruction and was only retained by chance. Campaigners, including MPs, have found Pte Gray's death particularly perplexing. He was shot twice - the bullet wounds were above each eye. His body was found 50 minutes after shots were fired at a spot near a perimeter fence that had already been searched four times. The army has consistently played down fears that Pte Gray and the other soldiers were victims of crime and said suicide rates within the armed forces are no higher than in civilian life. However, the Ministry of Defence has been stung by a string of recent allegations regarding bullying at the barracks. Yesterday a former soldier, Trevor Hunter, 27, claimed Pte Benton suffered vicious verbal attacks and humiliating abuse that may have led him to commit suicide. He was found with five bullet wounds to his chest in June 1995. Mr Hunter said Pte Benton was beaten up in his quarters and was thrown out of his second storey bedroom window. He claimed one sergeant took a particular dislike to him. "This sergeant would pull him out in front of everyone and push him around. He would brag about the bullying. Sean was a genuinely good bloke, and I would say he had the makings of a good career in the army, but unfortunately certain people at that time didn't like him." Surrey police refused to comment about developments in the investigation. "This is an ongoing inquiry and it would be inappropriate," said a spokeswoman. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and m
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pentagon is Doping U.S. Armed Forces with Speed
-Caveat Lector- God Bill is this absolutely fact? if it is.. its disgusting...cant these men sue the government? What they are doing is highly illegal!! The Mermaid - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:12 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Pentagon is Doping U.S. Armed Forces with Speed -Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Now this is GOOD
-Caveat Lector- CRGTHE PEOPLES INVESTIGATION OF 9/11 PRESS CONFERENCEWed Oct 2 20:22:24 2002208.152.73.205THE PEOPLES INVESTIGATION OF 9/11 PRESS CONFERENCE http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PIN210A.htmlFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:Friday, October 4th, 10am noon, San Francisco Federal Building 450 Golden Gate, San Francisco, CAWe, citizens of the United States, declare a national emergency in uncovering what reallyhappened on 9/11/2001 through an immediate call for an independent collaborativeinvestigation worldwide. Unanswered questions, stonewalling and unsettling evidencesuggest a government plan to allow these horrific attacks to happen.Current overt and covert US war plans and ever-increasing military and intelligence budgetsare part a massive power grab which does not provide US citizens or the world any realsecurity, particularly if and when terror is planned or allowed to happen from within ourgovernment. The Patriot Act, passed by a frightened Congress who did not read the 300+page document the day it was presented and passed, is just one resulting curtailment of ourcivil liberties sold to us in the name of security. It is crucial that we act immediately.Teachers, students, firemen, lawyers, family members of victims, investigative reporters,media, researchers and anyone interested in discovering the truth behind the events of,leading up to and following the attacks of 9/11/2001, we need your participation.Do not expect mainstream media to educate you on 9/11. The congressional independent investigation and publichearings currently being held are limited in scope. The outcome of these hearings will likely be intelligence failureand a subsequent request for more funding. The Peoples Investigation of 9/11 will have no central leadership, only acentralized online repository of research information. A non-partisan ad-hoc committee is being formed now tofacilitate this collaboration of global research efforts.If interested in participating, send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 415.956.8330.Please attend the press conference. Current 9/11 research can be found at http://www.cooperativeresearch.org .Unanswered questions regarding the attacks can be found at http://www.unansweredquestions.org .Break the cycle of fear, disinformation, violence, prejudice, anti-Semitism, anti-Arabsentiment, hate and war. Join the Peoples Investigation of 9/11. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Boston Tea Party?
-Caveat Lector- Print This Story E-mail This Story Greetings from Boston, Mr. Bush By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective Tuesday, 1 October, 2002 It is one of the great sins of ego in writing to address readers in the first person. Better to keep the remoteness of the third-person, better to be simply a deliverer of information. Best to not inject yourself into the conversation the reader is having with the facts. This time, however, the matter is personal. Two years ago, on October 3rd, 2000 George W. Bush came to my home town of Boston for the first Presidential debate of the campaign with Al Gore. The memory is still very fresh in my mind. I was only a few weeks into my first year of teaching; the process was still managing me, instead of the other way around. I had not yet begun to hear the worried voice in my head, the one that whispered, "Bush might actually win in November, yes, he might, he could do it." By the end of October, that whisper had become a banshee scream. But on October 3rd, I was more concerned with lesson plans than intestinal polling data. There is no simpler way to put it: All hell has broken loose in the two years since Bush visited Boston on that night in October. The democratic ethic of American elections was torn to pieces in Florida, and by a Supreme Court that should never have gotten involved in the first place. A President was installed who lost an election but won a lawsuit. Upon arrival, he proceeded to fill the ranks of government with a rogues gallery of extremists and slick corporate CEOs: - Religious fundamentalist John Ashcroft became Attorney General after losing an election to a dead man; - Neo-conservative hawk Don Rumsfeld became Secretary of Defense, backed by appallingly dangerous men like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle; - Harvey Pitt became chairman of the SEC, institutionalizing the idea that conflicts of interest do not matter and that foxes are perfectly trustworthy when given a key to the henhouse; - Former Enron vice president Thomas White was made Secretary of the Army, and when the Enron scandal exploded, we were told he knew nothing of it, he does not in fact know much about anything, his staffers call him 'Mr. Magoo' behind his back, and isn't that a heartwarming thought when one considers the control he has over our armed forces. Mr. Magoo is riding herd over the army during the War on Terror. I doubt that will be on the GOP campaign literature in 2004. A trillion dollar tax cut was fobbed off on the American people as a boon to the common man, looting a budget surplus that turned out to be made up of smoke and mirrors - the surplus numbers had been based to a great degree on expected tax revenues from profitable super-companies like Enron and WorldCom. When their false profit reports came to light, the sudden realization that Bush tax cut had bitten through a negligible surplus and into the guts of the budget sent a shockwave through the economy. Someone needed to take George aside and explain the dangers of not looking before you leap. Circular firing squads are bad for business. Evidence suggests this conversation never took place. In the innocent months before September 11th, the Bush administration rolled back environmental protections, safety regulations for workers, and laughed in the faces of campaign finance reformers. Only the sudden defection of Senator James Jeffords kept Bush from having de facto control over every single branch of the Federal government. Vice President Cheney sat behind closed, locked doors to craft a domestic energy policy with the robber barons of the corporate world. Many, or all, of these men knew full well why California had sat dark and spoiling for months under disrupted, overpriced power grids. When Enron was shamed, the substance of these meetings and the energy plans it spawned were buried by moonlight, and Dick Cheney has since spent a great deal of his own personal energy avoiding subpoenas on the matter from the General Accounting Office and Judicial Watch. Then, on a bright September morning, the mettle of the man was sorely tested, and found wanting. Before the smoke had cleared in Washington and New York, the
[CTRL] UNIV. MICHIGIN TO HOST ZIONISM IS RACISM CONFRENCE
-Caveat Lector- Good for these students ...One has to ask the question why is this Mary Coleman the president distancing herself from this conference. young people have the right idea... peace free from corruption and political blackmail. Good on them they could teach some bigotted grown ups a thing or two The mermaidx http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFullcid=1033392582358Sep. 30, 2002Univ. of Michigan to Host 'Zionism is Racism' ConferenceBy MICHAEL FREUNDThe University of Michigan at Ann Arbor is slated to play host to a national student conference late next week, one of whose "guiding principles" is that it "condemns the racism and discrimination inherent in Zionism", the Jerusalem Post has learned. The Second National Student Conference on the Palestine Solidarity Movement, which is scheduled to begin on October 12, is being sponsored by pro-Palestinian and socialist groups. It aims to promote an end to US aid to Israel and to encourage divestment by universities and corporations from the Jewish state. In the conference's promotional material, organizers refer to "apartheid Israel", and refuse to condemn Palestinian terrorism, stating, "As a solidarity movement, it is not our place to dictate the strategies or tactics adopted by the Palestinian people in their struggle for liberation." In addition to asserting that "racism" is "inherent to Zionism", the organizers call for "the right of return and repatriation for all Palestinian refugees" as well as "an end to the Israeli system of Apartheid and discrimination." Panelists at the conference include Dr. Sami Al-Arian, a former Professor at the University of South Florida who was fired after reports surfaced linking him to Middle Eastern terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda and Islamic Jihad. A similar conference on divestment, held earlier this year at Berkeley, caused an uproar among American academics, leading Harvard President Lawrence Summers to criticize the divestment scheme as "anti-Semitic." In a statement issued last week, University of Michigan President Mary Coleman appeared to distance the school from the conference, stating, "The agenda of the conference represents the views of the organizers and not the University of Michigan." She added that the university had no intention of divesting from Israel. "I do not support this divestment," she said, adding, "As a matter of University policy, we do not believe political interests should govern our investment decisions." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Everyday Occurences
-Caveat Lector- DAILY UNSPEAKABLE BRUTALITY AND DEATH NABLUS UNDER TOTAL SIEGE "Two and a half weeks ago, the commander of the Paratroops battalion in the city told Ha'aretz: 'We will not be able to maintain the curfew indefinitely. We must not 'Hezbollize' the population. We don't want suicide to become the only source of livelihood in the city ... It's impossible to keep the residents cooped up forever." Since then two and a half weeks have gone by and the IDF is proving that it is in fact possible to lock up an entire city indefinitely." MID-EAST REALITIES - MER - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 9/30/2002: The Americans and the Israelis continue to conspire in still growing ways to control the Middle East region. They are doing so through a combination of covert means (CIA, NSA and Mossad), military means (special forces and Pentagon operations), as well as economic manipulation and of course Arab "client regimes"...most especially those in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the lesser Arab sheikdoms of Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Oman. Then of course there are the still growing and very important alliances with Turkey and with India. They are also doing so through still growing propaganda as well as disinformation campaigns, including such big leaks/lies as that perpetrated on and by CBS's 60 Minutes Program last Sunday evening. Indeed, political and media manipulation, such as the jerking around of Arafat and entourage then presented to the world as a US/Good Cop versus Israeli/Bad Cop production, is all really an added part of the subterfuge and pretext. EVERYDAY OCCURRENCES By Amira Hass Ha'aretz - Wednesday, September 25, 2002: Last Thursday morning, two huge bulldozers dug into the earth energetically, as they have been doing in recent months, in a wadi north of Ramallah. Over the past two years, with the gradual closure to Palestinian traffic of all the roads in the West Bank, this wadi has become a central and important juncture crossed on foot nearly every day by hundreds or thousands of people on their way to and from Ramallah from the nearby villages and from the Jalazun refugee camp. Taxis drop them off on one side of the wadi and they climb down among the boulders and dirt up to the other side, where different taxis await them. This, of course, is when soldiers are not posted there with their weapons, gas grenades, and stun grenades, who stop people from passing. Last Thursday, passage was prevented by a police jeep and a military van. There weren't many people anyway because of the curfew on Ramallah (even before the renewal of the siege of the Muqata and its demolition). An ambulance traveling along the road that cuts across the wadi - and is forbidden to Palestinians - was stopped near the police jeep and examined. An elderly woman stepped out of the ambulance and, with the support of a young woman, began to climb on the rocks of the northern slope, stopping to rest now and then on a boulder. At the top of the northern slope of the wadi, a car arrived and a man and a woman in their 30s got out. Both of them were doctors, who had been called urgently to the village of Sinjal (about 10 kilometers north of Ramallah). At night it had been totally impossible for them to get out, and a long, hard trip awaited them, which began with bypassing the police jeep and evading the policemen's eyes and rifles. All along the bulldozers were at work: A fence all along the road will prevent passage through the wadi and gradually complete the isolation of the Ramallah enclave, which has already been blocked to the south by a fence. On Monday afternoon, intelligence warnings led to the blocking of all the routes to Palestinian neighborhoods in northern Jerusalem. A curfew was imposed on the village of Bir Naballah. At a large kindergarten in the village, with about 250 children aged three to five, teachers decided to hurry up and drive the kids to the A-Ram/Beit Hanina crossing point, home to their worried parents in East Jerusalem. There is no knowing how long the curfew will last and it is hard to keep so many small children in field conditions. The kindergarten teachers hoped they would be able to persuade the Border Police to let the children through, but instead the police began to throw tear gas and stun grenades at them - from a distance of only a few meters, according to one staff member. Some of the policemen held large dogs quite close to the children, which added to the huge panic. (The response of the Israel Defense Forces Spokesman did not reach Ha'aretz by press time). These two everyday scenes have long ceased to be news items, if they ever were. This is not only because of the terror attacks in Tel Aviv and Hebron, and not because of the nine people killed in the Israel Defense Forces attack yesterday in Gaza. They are not newsworthy in Israel because they are everyday occurrences. They are not "news"
[CTRL] a new leadership
-Caveat Lector- [International Herald Tribune - Athens - 30 September]: A NEW KIND OF LEADERSHIP FOR PALESTINE The Intifada's most popular leader gives Kathimerini his first interview since being arrested by the Israeli authorities last April By Petros Papaconstantinou - KathimeriniIf the Palestinian Intifada could be encapsulated in one person, there is no doubt that would be Marwan Bargouti. The 43-year-old member of Al Fatah from the West Bank gained the esteem of his compatriots by playing a leading role in the Palestinians' uprising against the Israeli occupying forces. He shared the danger and the pain at the front line of the bloody fighting in Ramallah and managed to earn the respect of all Palestinian organizations, from the more moderate Muslims to the Marxist Left.He is generally seen as uncorrupted and uncompromising in his stance regarding Israelis and Americans. He speaks both English and Hebrew and is considered one of the most likely successors to Yasser Arafat.Our first interview with Bargouti took place in Ramallah two years ago, just a few weeks after the beginning of the second Intifada, during a demonstration that developed into an armed conflict between Palestinian fighters and Israeli troops.This time we were not able to talk to him face to face. Imprisoned by the Israelis since April 15, Bargouti found a way to reply to our questions from within the Hedarim prison in Tel Aviv, in the first interview he has given to the international media since his arrest. PHOTO: Marwan Bargouti (center) listens to his lawyer (left) during his first appearance in an Israeli court. 'The desire for freedom and independence is stronger than any armed force, as evidenced by the failure of Sharon's fascist government to quell the uprising and to provide security to the Israeli occupation,' he said. You have been in an Israeli jail for the past six months. Tell us about the conditions of your imprisonment.I was abducted from the city of Ramallah, a city under Palestinian control, on April 15, 2002, during the Israeli siege of the occupied West Bank. The Israeli occupation forces were about to demolish the building and the home in which I was staying, and I emerged just moments before helicopters and tanks fired shells and rockets into the building. I was handcuffed and taken to an interrogation center in Jerusalem, then to another center in Tel Aviv, and finally to a third military center in northern Israel.For nearly 100 days I was subjected to severe and brutal interrogation. I was tortured using the "Shebai" method; my arms were tied behind my back to my chair and I was forced to stay that way for several days. I was deprived of sleep for several consecutive weeks. In addition, I was routinely subjected to insults and other humiliations as well as psychological and physical pressure. These methods are used against hundreds if not thousands of Palestinian prisoners.There are now approximately 8,000 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli prisons who endure harsh and difficult conditions.A few weeks ago I was transferred to the Hedarim prison north of Tel Aviv and I occupy a cell with one other prisoner. All the prisoners here are denied visits from their families.To date I have been prevented from seeing my mother, wife and four children. At my last court appearance on September 5, 2002, three of my children managed to attend. Despite their cries, they were forbidden from getting near me and I was denied the ability to even embrace them.The Israeli government accuses you of being responsible for suicide attacks and other alleged terrorist actions against civilians. What's your reply?All the Israeli accusations against me are totally fabricated and I refuse to dignify them by dealing with them. In many ways, I feel sorry for the state of Israel - the Middle East's "only democracy" - stooping to fabricating charges in a show trial aimed not at truth and justice but rather to appease the Israeli masses who refuse to see any connection between their own brutal policies and the violence we are now experiencing.Like President Arafat, I have become a scapegoat, my trial simply a public relations event by a corrupt and visionless Israeli leadership desperate to cover up its own inadequacies. Those who should be on trial are the criminals of occupation who have perpetrated massacres against the men, women and children of Palestine over decades, who continue to violate UN resolutions and the fourth Geneva Convention with impunity. In the face of international abandonment, the Palestinian people, like all people whose rights have been trampled on while living under the armed occupation of a foreign country, have a right to resist.Before September 2001, you were known to Western public opinion as a supporter of the Oslo agreements and the peaceful resolution of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. But during the second Intifada,
Re: [CTRL] A NWO From Nothing But Skull and Bones?
-Caveat Lector- The world may be waking up to this elitest oligarchy but are the american people? If the american people woke up then perhaps this disgusting network of parasites could be wiped out!!! The trouble is there's an unknown factor here isnt there... How big have they become how widespread is their influence ...Is it too late? The mermaid - Original Message - From: iNFoWaRZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:01 AM Subject: [CTRL] A NWO From Nothing But Skull and Bones? -Caveat Lector- The world is waking up to what Bush really is, a corrupt elitist, global socialist, deeply involved in the Occult. - A New World Order From Nothing But Skull and Bones? Skull and Bones in Bush's Foreign Policy Closet By Paolo Pontoniere Amidst the debate over the impending US-led war against Iraq, some European media, mostly in Italy and Germany, took note of the publication of Secrets of The Tomb: Skull and Bones, The Ivy League and The Hidden Paths of Power. In the Little Brown book, author Alexandra Robbins discusses the connections between America's wealthiest families, secret fraternities and the role of Ivy League institutions in the genesis of United States foreign policy. For some European analysts, Skull and Bones explains much of the mystery surrounding how power is apportioned in the US by describing a well-established system of nepotism and co-optation among members of this fraternity. They fear that the unwieldy influence that secret lobbies--such as those described in Skull and Bones--have on the American administration may interfere with President Bush's ability to decide freely what action to take. They also believe that Bush's belonging to such a secret fraternity may explain the nihilistic overtones of his foreign policy and his strong drive toward waging war against Iraq because of the gothic character of the fraternity. Europeans have noted that not only the current US president is a Bonesman, but that also his former-president father and his grandfather, senator Prescott Bush, are members. In the Bush family, connection to the Tomb--the name of the Yale building where the fraternity meets--also involves three uncles of the current president and two of his cousins. A couple of Bonesmen came up with the money to launch President Bush's career in business when he founded the oil company Arbusto; another Bonesman provided the capital for Bush to acquire a stake in the Texas Rangers; and another member of the fraternity that bolstered Bush's 2000 presidential campaign by paying for advertising billboards at a million dollars a piece. One of President Bush's first actions when he entered the White House was to organize a dinner with the members of his fraternity. What worries Europeans most about the Bonesmen is the suspicion that the organization may have a neo-Nazi tendency or that it may be animated by anti-Semitic sentiments. According to various reports about the activities of the Bonesmen throughout the years, it appears that many prominent members, in particular those linked to the Union Bank in New York and its sister bank in Holland at the beginning of WWII, were financing Hitler throughout the war and as late as 1945. Italians and Germans alike have a long history of secret associations meddling in the internal affairs of their countries. This fact makes European analysts tend to distrust both politicians that can be linked to such groups and secretive associations that have links to political parties or single politicians. In the case of the Skull and Bones, Italian and German media have reported that such ties between the secret organization and politicians could be understood as a multigenerational secret society with a global reach and a finger in many different pies. They describe the Skull and Bones' influence as resulting in a sort of oligarchic government that includes some of the most influential American families such as the Bushes, the Harrimans, the Tafts, the Whitneys, and the Rockefellers. Skull and Bones was founded in 1832 by William Russell, the heir to Russell and Company, at that time one of the world's most prominent opium traders. According to author Robbins, Russell befriended the leader of a secret society during a year of study in Germany. Returning to the US, Russell sought to re-create in the US the spirit of exclusivity that he had encountered with the German secret society, whose main goal was the establishment of a strong government of the kind that would mold every individual to the obedience of the state. In the rarefied atmosphere of Yale University, Russell found a receptive environment for his dream, enrolling the help of Alphonso Taft, future US secretary of war and father of President William Howard Taft. The society they founded was called the Brotherhood of Death, or more informally, the Order of Skull and Bones. Later the order would include among its
[CTRL] were the moon landings a fake/ Guardian
-Caveat Lector- Were the Lunar Landings Faked? from Guardian Unlimited This week Buzz Aldrin, 72, punched a man who suggested that the missions to the moon were a hoax. But does anyone still believe that old chestnut? Yes indeed, finds Stuart Jeffries. In 1968, the film director Stanley Kubrick was secretly approached by NASA officials. They asked him to direct the first three moon landings from a special set. As a result, Kubrick worked for 16 months at a specially-built sound stage in Huntsville, Alabama, creating footage of the Apollo 11 and 12 missions. In July 1969, a Saturn V rocket with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins on board was launched into a low orbit and remained there while Kubrick's footage was released to the media. The three men made a perfect splash down in the Pacific after millions of television viewers had been captivated by the so-called moon landing. Months afterwards, he filmed the Apollo 12 mission in the same way. This, at least, is the theory of an American called Great North Wind, writing at www.galactic-guide.com, and you have to admit it makes a great deal of sense. After all, as many moon landing hoax theorists point out, NASA had to do something. American pride had been twice humbled - by Yuri Gagarin in space and by Charlie Cong in Nam. That said; there are holes in Great North Wind's theory. He continues: "Kubrick refused to direct the Apollo 13 mission, however, because NASA officials rejected his screenplay in which the Apollo 13 mission fails. Ironically, NASA later decided to use the failed-mission scenario, for which Randall Cunningham - a little known but highly respected British director - was recruited to direct. Extensive research has found that Cunningham is not a highly respected British director, but an occasionally brilliant former quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens. Mr. (or possibly Ms) Wind is possibly hoaxing us with his moon landing hoax. But we may never know the truth: Kubrick is now dead, which makes it hard to check, and Great North Wind has not replied to my e-mails. You may think Wind's theory is a little far-fetched, but if you are so clever, how do you explain the fact that O.J. Simpson was framed for murder by the U.S. government? If you accept the account set out at www.straightdope.com, it was because Simpson helped to expose the lie that Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the moon. How did he do that? By appearing in Peter Hyams' 1978 film Capricorn One. In that picture, Simpson, along with Sam Waterston and James Brolin, plays an astronaut forced to stage the first manned mission to Mars in a desert. But the men decide not to play ball and go on the run, pursued by government hit-men. But if this film was an embarrassment to the U.S. government, why did it wait until 1995 to frame Simpson for murder? And why didn't Waterston, Hyams and Brolin get framed too? The people at Straight Dope haven't returned my calls. This many-tentacled conspiracy becomes a topical issue now that alleged Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin has thumped a man who claimed that his moon landing was actually filmed in the Nevada desert. This man, one Bart Sibrel, has made documentaries called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon and Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? He confronted Aldrin, 72, in a Beverly Hills hotel earlier this week. Sibrel, 37, demanded that Aldrin swear on a Bible that he had really landed on the moon. Aldrin declined to do so, and then his fist really landed on Sibrel's face. Sibrel claims to have uncovered 33-year-old footage that shows the Apollo 11 crew falsifying part of their photography (which at least might get Kubrick off the hook). He claims that the Apollo 11 crew put a transparency of the Earth in front of their space-capsule window and then taped the transparency as they made a "journey" to the moon. "Surrounding the Earth, beginning at an altitude of 1,000 miles and extending an additional 25,000 miles, lies lethal bands of radiation called the Van Allen radiation belts," Sibrel tells me. "Recently uncovered footage of the crew of the Apollo 11 staging part of their mission proves that the astronauts never made it beyond Earth orbit." But the hoax didn't end there. Footage purportedly from the moon shows the U.S. flag fluttering in the lunar breeze. "How could there be a breeze when there is no atmosphere?" Sibrel asks. Sibrel is one of many who believe the moon remains untouched by human space-boots. Ralph Rene, author of
