Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- How does one unsubscribe to this mailer? Ive tried and it gets nowhere. Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because no command was found in the message body. LISTSERV expects commands in the body of the message, rather than in the message subject, because some users have no control over the contents of the Subject: field on outgoing messages. UnsubscribeMissing parameter - specify the name of a list, or * (without the quotes)for all lists on this server. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War? http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 11, 2003 A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR? Condi Rice says youre a 'racist' if you dont support the 'liberation' of Iraq Lying propaganda continues to gush from the Bush administration, like vomit from a drunk. The latest comes courtesy of Condoleezza Rice, the President's national security chief and a woman who, in any other circumstances, would have been out on her ear, but in this clueless administration maintains a highly visible role. Speaking before the National Association of Black Journalists, her latest outrage is accusing critics of the President's war policy of racism. Invoking the history of the civil rights movement, and the 1963 bombing of a black church in Birmingham, Alabama, Condi's rendition of Al Sharpton's race-baiting act was even better than the original: Knowing what we know about the difficulties of our own history, let us always be humble in singing freedom's praises. But let our voice not waver in speaking out on the side of people seeking freedom. And let us never indulge the condescending voices who allege that some people are not interested in freedom or aren't ready for freedom's responsibilities. That view was wrong in 1963 in Birmingham and it is wrong in 2003 in Baghdad. Forget Niger uranium, Iraq's nonexistent role in 9/11, and those missing WMD this may be the biggest lie of all. Condi's fanciful fib, weirdly inverting history, must have provoked more than a few guffaws. In the Condi Rice school of revisionist history, the antiwar movement of the 1960s did not come out of the civil rights movement, and, furthermore, the segregationists and their hero, George Wallace, didn't disdain the protestors as Commie-pinko-hippie-queers. The condescending saviors of the Bush administration couldn't wait for the Iraqi people to seek and win their own freedom. Now they stand guard over a conquered province, delaying free elections until the Iraqis are ready. Washington rightly fears a truly democratic election will sweep radical Islamists into power, inaugurating a Shi'ite Muslim republic in the southern region of the country and leading to the break-up of Iraq along ethnic lines. American blacks are in no way analogous to Iraqis: after all, the former are, in spite of George Wallace's heirs and the Africanist rantings of black nationalists, Americans, while the latter are foreigners. One wonders why this even has to be pointed out. Iraqis didn't fight in the American Revolution, but blacks did, as schoolchildren are ceaselessly reminded. The Iraqis didn't have a Jefferson, or a George Washington: their Founders were in the British Foreign Office, ours rose up in rebellion against that Office and established the first enduring constitutional republic on earth. Not that this would much impress Ms. Rice, who clearly has it in for the Founders, as she makes clear in her remarks: But Democracy is not easy. Our own histories should remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work in progress. When the Founding Fathers said We the People, they did not mean us. Our ancestors were considered three-fifths of a person. America has made great strides to overcome its birth defects but the struggle has been long and the cost has been high. The lies just keep coming. That the historic compromise reached by the Constitutional Convention was motivated by contempt for blacks is another of Ms. Rice's revisionist bon mots. However, this left-wing fairy tale is not only a myth, long a staple of anti-Americana, it is certainly an odd way for an ostensibly conservative administration to justify its foreign policy. Ms. Rice no doubt sincerely believes that the Constitutional Convention was the moral equivalent of a cross-burning, but history tells a different story. In the face of a threat by the Southern states to go off on their own, the convention took no position on the slavery question, neither recognizing it nor forbidding it. As Garet Garrett pointed out in The American Story (1956): The Constitutional Convention took refuge in the hopeful position that in time slavery would disappear of itself, provided it were left to states. In that mood the Convention performed
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
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Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- I did just that but thats how I get the error messages that the address is incorrect! Could it be its a lock in to this stuff? Hence the following: Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because no command was found in the message body. LISTSERV expects commands in the body of the message, rather than in the message subject, because some users have no control over the contents of the Subject: field on outgoing messages. UnsubscribeMissing parameter - specify the name of a list, or * (without the quotes)for all lists on this server. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War? In a message dated 8/11/2003 8:37:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does one unsubscribe to this mailer? Ive tried and it gets nowhere. To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="" PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/11/2003 9:09:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did just that but thats how I get the error messages that the address is incorrect! I believe you need to put the words SIGNOFF and CTRL into the body of the email. Did you do that? If so try substituting the word UNSUBSCRIBE for SIGNOFF. If all else fails, ask Jesus to help you. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 11, 2003 A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR? Condi Rice says youre a 'racist' if you dont support the 'liberation' of Iraq Lying propaganda continues to gush from the Bush administration, like vomit from a drunk. The latest comes courtesy of Condoleezza Rice, the President's national security chief and a woman who, in any other circumstances, would have been out on her ear, but in this clueless administration maintains a highly visible role. Speaking before the National Association of Black Journalists, her latest outrage is accusing critics of the President's war policy of "racism." Invoking the history of the civil rights movement, and the 1963 bombing of a black church in Birmingham, Alabama, Condi's rendition of Al Sharpton's race-baiting act was even better than the original: "Knowing what we know about the difficulties of our own history, let us always be humble in singing freedom's praises. But let our voice not waver in speaking out on the side of people seeking freedom. And let us never indulge the condescending voices who allege that some people are not interested in freedom or aren't ready for freedom's responsibilities. That view was wrong in 1963 in Birmingham and it is wrong in 2003 in Baghdad." Forget Niger uranium, Iraq's nonexistent role in 9/11, and those missing WMD this may be the biggest lie of all. Condi's fanciful fib, weirdly inverting history, must have provoked more than a few guffaws. In the Condi Rice school of revisionist history, the antiwar movement of the 1960s did not come out of the civil rights movement, and, furthermore, the segregationists and their hero, George Wallace, didn't disdain the protestors as Commie-pinko-hippie-queers. The condescending saviors of the Bush administration couldn't wait for the Iraqi people to seek and win their own freedom. Now they stand guard over a conquered province, delaying free elections until the Iraqis are "ready." Washington rightly fears a truly democratic election will sweep radical Islamists into power, inaugurating a Shi'ite Muslim "republic" in the southern region of the country and leading to the break-up of Iraq along ethnic lines. American blacks are in no way analogous to Iraqis: after all, the former are, in spite of George Wallace's heirs and the Africanist rantings of "black nationalists," Americans, while the latter are foreigners. One wonders why this even has to be pointed out. Iraqis didn't fight in the American Revolution, but blacks did, as schoolchildren are ceaselessly reminded. The Iraqis didn't have a Jefferson, or a George Washington: their Founders were in the British Foreign Office, ours rose up in rebellion against that Office and established the first enduring constitutional republic on earth. Not that this would much impress Ms. Rice, who clearly has it in for the Founders, as she makes clear in her remarks: "But Democracy is not easy. Our own histories should remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work in progress. When the Founding Fathers said "We the People," they did not mean us. Our ancestors were considered three-fifths of a person. America has made great strides to overcome its birth defects but the struggle has been long and the cost has been high." The lies just keep coming. That the historic compromise reached by the Constitutional Convention was motivated by contempt for blacks is another of Ms. Rice's "revisionist" bon mots. However, this left-wing fairy tale is not only a myth, long a staple of anti-Americana, it is certainly an odd way for an ostensibly conservative administration to justify its foreign policy. Ms. Rice no doubt sincerely believes that the Constitutional Convention was the moral equivalent of a cross-burning, but history tells a different story. In the face of a threat by the Southern states to go off on their own, the convention took no position on the slavery question, neither recognizing it nor forbidding it. As Garet Garrett pointed out in The American Story (1956): "The Constitutional Convention took refuge in the hopeful position that in time slavery would disappear of itself, provided it were left to states. In that mood the Convention performed the first great feat of documentary ambiguity in our history. The Constitutoin recognized slavery in an oblique manner without accepting it, and it never once used either the word slave or Negro. It referred instead to 'persons held to service or labor.'" Rice draws a portrait of the Founders familiar to the inmates of our universities, where an atmosphere of political correctness is all-pervasive and strictly enforced: they were white slave-owning property-owning men, and therefore evil to the max. How, then, did they come to found the freest nation on earth? Ms. Rice never does get around to explaining that conundrum. But her complaint about blacks being gerrymandered out of their full person-hood is
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- Hey, it's a full moonwhat do you expect. - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/11/2003 9:09:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did just that but thats how I get the error messages that the address is incorrect! I believe you need to put the words SIGNOFF and CTRL into the body of the email.Did you do that? If so try substituting the word UNSUBSCRIBE for SIGNOFF.If all else fails, ask Jesus to help you.Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
