Re: [CTRL] ADG: More casualties of the Clinton era
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/04/2000 2:53:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not only were flesh-and-blood Ar-kansans sacrificed in the name of Bill Clinton, but so were time-honored principles. The now-infamous smear tactics were perfected to silence "bimbo eruptions" and other critics. Lying became an accepted, even preferred, method of garnering headlines and manipulating public opinion under the guise of "spin." Integrity went from being a hard-earned virtue to a relative measure. Odd, I don't recall Clinton calling any of these people forward via supoena or other means. Could it have been the Republican party and their good friends who hurt all the good folks and the bad folks in Arkansas? Oh my, what a thought. As for lying and manipulating and spinning public opinion. We all know how well the Republicans do that. And come to think of it, there's been a whole bunch of ladies who seem to be keeping a whole bunch of Republicans comfy. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADG: More casualties of the Clinton era
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 00:52:52 -0700 MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- More casualties of the Clinton era DANA D. KELLEY Arkansas Democrat Gazette December 3, 2000 snip Not only were flesh-and-blood Ar-kansans sacrificed in the name of Bill Clinton, but so were time-honored principles. The now-infamous smear tactics were perfected to silence "bimbo eruptions" and other critics. Lying became an accepted, even preferred, method of garnering headlines and manipulating public opinion under the guise of "spin." Integrity went from being a hard-earned virtue to a relative measure. Yes, they did all that and moreand it cost them 3 Speakers of the House. Even as the Clinton administration wanes, it continues to claim casualties. The latest and perhaps most unexpected include Al Gore and Joe Lieberman. The 'Witch Hunt' is still on. BIG snip Bill Clinton will live forever in history books as an impeached president. In his shadow, Al Gore has solidified his historical footnote as the only candidate to contest a certified presidential election. That no other losing candidate has ever behaved in such a way speaks tellingly about the man who would do it now. It sure does. It took guts to challange a flawed result. At the very least, that challange has made it abundantly clear that the mechanics of the system (if not the system itself) we are currently using are greatly flawed. In a computer age we are still using a 1950's technology to choose the winners of an election. Dana D. Kelley is a free-lance writer from Jonesboro. Jayson R. Jones is a free-lance thinker from Oregon A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADG: More casualties of the Clinton era
-Caveat Lector- More casualties of the Clinton era DANA D. KELLEY Arkansas Democrat Gazette December 3, 2000 Here in Arkansas, most everybody knows somebody whose life was either disrupted or destroyed as a result of the investigations surrounding the Clinton machine. The aura of excitement which seemed initially to permeate Clinton supporters steadily dulled into dread as we watched subpoenas rain down on the just and unjust, the good and the bad. Not only were flesh-and-blood Ar-kansans sacrificed in the name of Bill Clinton, but so were time-honored principles. The now-infamous smear tactics were perfected to silence "bimbo eruptions" and other critics. Lying became an accepted, even preferred, method of garnering headlines and manipulating public opinion under the guise of "spin." Integrity went from being a hard-earned virtue to a relative measure. Even as the Clinton administration wanes, it continues to claim casualties. The latest and perhaps most unexpected include Al Gore and Joe Lieberman. Gore's promise not to take legal action if he lost the recount in Florida now bears a striking resemblance to Clinton's finger wagging that he did not have "sexual relations with that woman." And if anybody thought Gore had a penchant for fibbing during the campaign, his latest round of whoppers is proof that no matter how bad something is, it can always get worse. "This is America," a chortling Gore asserted last week. "When votes are cast, we count them." Like many great Clintonisms, that sounds good but simply isn't true. Not all votes are counted, or can be. Current estimates are that up to 3 million votes nationally weren't tallied for a variety of reasons. (All the Florida votes were "counted" twice by machines, but untallied votes did not register a presidential selection.) The only untallied votes Gore wants to count are those that will give him the win in Florida. It's intellectually dishonest to disenfranchise 3 million untallied ballots--far more than enough to change not only the popular vote, but also the electoral vote--by applying partisan scrutiny to a few thousand votes in Florida. The lamest argument of all has become the media-repeated mantra that George W. Bush would be doing the same thing if the tables were turned. We can't know what Bush would have done if he had lost the original count and the mandated recount by 500 votes. But if he had acted dishonorably and attempted to subvert an unbiased if imperfect election process in the courts, I would be criticizing him with equal fervor and disdain. And what about Lieberman? Who knows what possessed him to follow Florida's certification with his scorched-earth, defiant denouncement of Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris after she followed the state Supreme Court's ruling to the letter. His reputation as a well-reasoned senator was obliterated as he tried to paint a picture of Republican "intimidation" in Miami-Dade County after the canvassing board voted to stop hand recounting, even as the Democratic board chairman denied that Republican protests had anything to do with its decision. Those who have been watching closely will recall that Miami-Dade didn't want to hand recount in the first place, after a sample showed no variation from the machine recount. Only after an intimidating lawsuit was threatened by the Gore campaign did the board capitulate. On principle, I disagreed often with the position of candidate Gore, but I believed him to be morally superior to his boss. After witnessing recent events unfold under his watch, from the personal trashing of Harris to the ridiculously staged conference-call photo-op (talk about looking like bad wax figures from Madame Tussaud's) to the revelation that his lawyers submitted a false affidavit about the Illinois case involving dimples before Florida's Supreme Court, I can only conclude that his philosophy has become exactly that of Clinton's--win at any and all costs. Bill Clinton will live forever in history books as an impeached president. In his shadow, Al Gore has solidified his historical footnote as the only candidate to contest a certified presidential election. That no other losing candidate has ever behaved in such a way speaks tellingly about the man who would do it now. Throughout the campaign, Gore's variation on John F. Kennedy's famous speech seemed to be "ask not what you can do for your country; ask what a Gore administration can do for you." It's clear now that not only will this man say anything to be president, he'll also do anything. Dana D. Kelley is a free-lance writer from Jonesboro. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
