Re: [CTRL] Deception By Language
-Caveat Lector- What a great argument. How about if we call conservatives : baby eating monsters and liberal angelic ones Then people would overwhelmingly come in favor of angelic ones. on 01/19/03 1:11 AM, iNFoWaRZ at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does this relate to politics? The ordinary person on the street has no interest in politics. He does not know the history related to words 'liberal' or 'conservative'. He makes a random choice. But if on the other hand he was given a choice between a Constitutionalist and a Socialist, the results would overwhelmingly come in favor of the Constitutionalist. -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. Abraham Lincoln NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deception By Language
-Caveat Lector- At 10:58 AM 1/19/03 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- What a great argument. How about if we call conservatives : baby eating monsters and liberal angelic ones Then people would overwhelmingly come in favor of angelic ones. How about if we tell the truth and call Democrats, elite totalitarian socialist tyrants. And call the neo-con Republicans, elite totalitarian socialist tyrants. And the small number of Americans who still believe in American heritage and the Constitution, Constitutionalists. THEN, it would be the Constitutionalists versus the entire corruption that is Washington DeCeived, and THEN, something could be accomplished. Until then it is phoney partisan squabbles until America falls off the cliff and is sucked into the elites Global Plantation. American stands at the edge of that cliff now. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deception By Language
-Caveat Lector- I'm with you there The constitution is a remarkable document. Not complete, but remarkable. Tell me - do constitutionalists accept the amendments to the constitution, or only the original form? on 01/19/03 11:11 AM, iNFoWaRZ at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 10:58 AM 1/19/03 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- What a great argument. How about if we call conservatives : baby eating monsters and liberal angelic ones Then people would overwhelmingly come in favor of angelic ones. How about if we tell the truth and call Democrats, elite totalitarian socialist tyrants. And call the neo-con Republicans, elite totalitarian socialist tyrants. And the small number of Americans who still believe in American heritage and the Constitution, Constitutionalists. THEN, it would be the Constitutionalists versus the entire corruption that is Washington DeCeived, and THEN, something could be accomplished. Until then it is phoney partisan squabbles until America falls off the cliff and is sucked into the elites Global Plantation. American stands at the edge of that cliff now. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- To Bigotry No Sanction, to Persecution No Assistance George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deception By Language
-Caveat Lector- How about if we call conservatives : baby eating monsters and liberal angelic ones Then people would overwhelmingly come in favor of angelic ones. Perception often trumps reality. The original term 'liberal' referred to those who believed in the free market and limited government while 'conservatives' favored a nonaligned Republic - not an Empire. Today so called liberals call for a state managed economy with an intrusive government while so called conservatives call for corporate welfare and a Imperial Empire. Some choice! flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Deception By Language
-Caveat Lector- Deception By Language: Creating Stereotypes And Destroying Meaning By Liberty Rogue January 17, 2003 A lot has been said on the subject of how the oppressive rulers fool their populations using deceptive language. George Orwell also extensively used examples of such in his book 1984. I will not repeat what has already been said, but try to focus on one small point that has been overlooked. In 1984 there is a concept called Doublethink when a person can hold two contradictory viewpoints in his mind without realizing thecontradiction. Doublethink is not that uncommon in our world. The most common example is the word Black Helicopter. No person in today's modern world would deny that there are helicopters. Well Duh! And what colors are military helicopters of numerous nations? Green and Black. Green for camouflaging them in the operations conducted in forests and black for camouflaging them in the nighttime operations. Would any sane person deny that there are helicopters and they are colored black? No. But then somebody uses the word Black Helicopter and the sheeple minded public engages in ridicule. This is a perfect example of doublethink. The people know that there are helicopters colored black but at the same time they laugh when the word combination is changed to Black Helicopters. Use of confusing and deceptive language helps the tyrants as their tyranny is built upon a whole foundation of lies and mistruths. The concise and accurate language helps the freedom lovers as accurate language conveys truth and truth is the precursor to freedom. I am no expert in language and semantics, but language is built upon the words and I would like to point out some of the commonly used (or misused) words to confuse and enslave the people. If we could replace these confusing and deceptive words with precise and accurate words in public dialogue we could gain a major benefit. 1. Conservative: A conservative is somebody who favors traditional views and values. This is a word that tends towards confusion and is the reason why the politicians are fond to use it. In a communist country, a conservative would be a communist. In Monarchy, a conservative would be a monarchist. In a Constitutional Republic like America a true conservative would be a Constitutionalist. However, the word by itself does not represent a political philosophy. Deceptive politicians love causing confusion amongst the public, because a well-informed public is anathema to tyrants. Better word: Constitutionalist. 2. Liberal: A liberal originally was a lover of liberty, not the socialists today who call themselves liberals. This is another arena where politicians have caused confusion. Socialists infiltrated liberalism and started calling themselves liberals. This way they replaced the classical liberal tradition of freedom with socialist tradition of tyrannical control. The American public would never have accepted any socialist ideas if they were called by their true names. But they have accepted many socialist ideas in the name of liberalism. To wake up the people we need to take back this word. Better Word: Socialist. Not to digress from the point but the confusion of these two words has done considerable damage to freedom. Let me give you an example from sports. In some sports entertainment, good guys are known as 'face' and bad guys as 'heel'. But only those with active interests in such sports know the meaning of these technical words. If those of us with interest in politics were made to choose between 'Face' and 'Heel' we would be confused and make a random selection. HOWEVER, if we were told in simple terms 'Good' and 'Bad', we would choose 'Good.' How does this relate to politics? The ordinary person on the street has no interest in politics. He does not know the history related to words 'liberal' or 'conservative'. He makes a random choice. But if on the other hand he was given a choice between a Constitutionalist and a Socialist, the results would overwhelmingly come in favor of the Constitutionalist. That is why it is important to replace words conveying confusion or misinformation with precise words. Let me continue with some more examples. 3. Collateral Damage: This phrase means death of innocent civilians during the war. A large part of the public is not only ignorant but they are also afraid to face reality. This is why this phrase was invented. It makes some people feel good because they don't have to face the reality that somewhere some innocent people are dying. These people are not bad, and they know it is a bad thing. But they are cowards to voice their opposition so they need sugarcoating to avoid facing reality. Reality needs to be accepted first and foremost. Better Phrase: Death of Innocent Civilians. Sometimes tragedies do happen which nobody can avert, but a lot of the wars were started by the international banking interests. Read Anthony
