Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-07-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Human Sacrifice - you said it David for that is what I believe it to be
and they attack the kids.

I remember his one recording that made me so angry, but forget who it
was - We're Not Going to Take It Anymore - and this ugly rock star
singing, then knocking his father out of a window - now you get kids on
drugs, and play this music over and over - what is the purpose?

Pearl Jam - their letter was laughable when they said they felt
painlike Clinton, feels our pain.

It is easy to get in the back of a crowd and stampede kids to a stage?
Remember Littleton, for this is the biggest coverup in ths history of
this country, and why?   What kind of experiment was this?

That 6 year old that killed another 6 year old and stabbed another -
smart enough to ditch the gun after the fact - lived in a crack house -
the great American experiment - Flint, Michigan once a great city - but
the big boys took the jobs over seas for cheap labor and to AVOID TAXES
and remember US Steel wearing badges SOB Club for that was what JFK
called them when they raised prices..

Oh it is an evil world.but our children are being murdered -
Slaughter of the Innocents - and I would like to see some action here.

Kick those bastards out of the USA - and remember too Beverly Hills in
Cincinnati where they had the big fire and 150 or so were killedthis
place was a meeting ground for spies.

Up at Lakeside, Ohio the "Howdy" bunch used to meet - church
league..today read about anaother disaster, people dancing on a
terrace and the terrace was a newer addition - one kid was killed - 29
or so, guess not a kid from what,  bad vibes?

A time to live and a time to die, and a time to build and maybe this is
the time of the destroyers and the slaugter of the innocents?

Well I am going to protect my own anyway I canand I had just warned
my daughter about keeping away from large crowds and the lake where we
used to love to go.this lates was owned by Paramount - used to know
a sleeze in the democrat party who had all kinds of dealings with that
bunch, and I man sleeze - he ended up dying of a rare at the ime wasting
disease and he was linked to hoodlums.   Just a young guy.

So Ohio was to buy this land and this place which was still on drawing
boardwonder if someone did not encourage the sale by say like a
Sampson, pushing at the strength of the buildingwas it a trap?
Rather timely trap at that.

So do not go near the water David - like Blue Danube it is polluted, and
dancing on piers is like boarding the Titanic, for the ship was just not
up to building standards?

So much for fact and fiction...watch now for next will come the
falling towers of Babel only somehow I doubt many tears would be shed
over that the way things areexcept for the innocents involved.

This country is at war, and most do not know it.  A war of sabotage and
domestic espionage, stealing or selling nuclear secrets, massive buring
(shades of Malachi) - gay pride flags wave away while A Confederate Flag
is removed because it offends the NAACP.

The movie stars are turning into a bunch of pigs yet we have assholes
knocking the movie The Patriot...why do you think an agent for MI6
would be down at Coca Beach Florida for many years..and how many of
our space craft were saabotaged?   Is there a difference between M6, the
Mossad, the KGB and CIA today.well one floor is music, one floor is
biological and chemical warfare, one floor is murder inc., and oe floor
is push the homos on the kids, and another floor is destroy from within,
for we have that bastard Kissinger still with us, MI6 in the door and
Mossad and KGB all singing out of same song book..and death is the
name of the game.

So this stuff - all accidents or plans and traps laid carefully by
people using WWII tactics - sabotaging railway tracks, airplanes, using
missiles to down planes - plagues and polluted water like Blue Danube?

Days of Wine and Roses to Days of kids being fed garbage?

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-07-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Oh death of RFK David, that is when I discovered a
conspiracy..always thought JFK was killed by a nut - but someone
Walter Lippman in 1968 drew my attention, and bungled onto so secrets
which led me to so believe a conspiracy..it was then I remembered
the Order of the Lily and the Rose
and realized that the Kennedys were being set up for murder - had
evidence but no proof, but then as it is, most everything is a theory.

Get into programming killers and you have lots of answers..train
them like K9 dogs and sometimes not only a look but a word can kill...

But this element succeeded in murdering anybody who was a threat to
their goalby the end of this year, we will know if they win for now
they work on Israel - divide and conquer as they do the USA, which is
divided and almost conquered...systematic murder of leads philosophy to
demoralize oppositiongoodbye Democrat Party, now saturated with
guess what?  CFR controlled now

Even Jimmy Hoffa - for you would never find that man, sitting with
CFR..

So wait until December 31, 2001.we see who wins.

If we go into solar age this year, well forget it.
No Holy War in Holy Land and jews and arabs will live in peace.

We did win the Revolutionary War did we not?   No more Kennedy's to kill
to amount to much, for the good ones are gone.   I did not want RFK for
president, for "I just knew he would be killed" for we all had been told
accordingly long enough...

So today knowing what I know one can tell who is ging to be killed, and
I have their timetable.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-07-03 Thread blue honey

Did I miss the "Pearl Jam concert turns deadly" part of your posts or is
this a thread that has changed topics?




Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly


Oh death of RFK David, that is when I discovered a
conspiracy..always thought JFK was killed by a nut - but someone
Walter Lippman in 1968 drew my attention, and bungled onto so secrets
which led me to so believe a conspiracy..it was then I remembered
the Order of the Lily and the Rose
and realized that the Kennedys were being set up for murder - had
evidence but no proof, but then as it is, most everything is a theory.

Get into programming killers and you have lots of answers..train
them like K9 dogs and sometimes not only a look but a word can kill...

But this element succeeded in murdering anybody who was a threat to
their goalby the end of this year, we will know if they win for now
they work on Israel - divide and conquer as they do the USA, which is
divided and almost conquered...systematic murder of leads philosophy to
demoralize oppositiongoodbye Democrat Party, now saturated with
guess what?  CFR controlled now

Even Jimmy Hoffa - for you would never find that man, sitting with
CFR..

So wait until December 31, 2001.we see who wins.

If we go into solar age this year, well forget it.
No Holy War in Holy Land and jews and arabs will live in peace.

We did win the Revolutionary War did we not?   No more Kennedy's to kill
to amount to much, for the good ones are gone.   I did not want RFK for
president, for "I just knew he would be killed" for we all had been told
accordingly long enough...

So today knowing what I know one can tell who is ging to be killed, and
I have their timetable.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-07-01 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well David Sutherland, I am a conspiracy theorist and have been since
the death of RFK, for then I realized like Alice In Wonderland, that
things were not as they seemed.

During my many years of research I was once warned "Do No Cast Pearls
Before Swine"...and then came the Legionaires Disease timed so nicely to
the events of the day - and I thought "My Name is Legion, for we are
many" and the evil spirit entered into the swine who paniced - virtually
suiciding, to the water where they diedthink they might in Sigmund
Freud's language call this "the herd instinct".

Oh I remember Cincinnati, and a bunch of kids sans manners rushing to
grab the best seats; but that is to be expected, the band played on, and
oh they did not know all those kids died.
Why not, they paid dearly for them.

Pearl Jam.Are they casting pearls before the swine - and then Pearl
Jam sends out a note they "feel our pain" when these kids get killed -
now at 100,000 people in attendance, most likely younger people, how
much did it cost per head.and we are told Pearl Jam, like Clinton,
feels our pain.


So there have been over the years numerous events some occuring in rock
places where kids hang out..panic, small fire - but the doors were
boltedin France, this one event took many lives, but people forget -
and the band plays on - like Aids taking a few lives here and few lives
there - but Cui Bono - and Pearl Jam feels our pain.

To me this Pearl Jam they are the swine100,000 people, and how much
security?  I say thought,  their name should be Legion, and their evil
spiritis entered the swine who panic and stampede?   Maybe a little
biblical lesson and clue here?




So Pearl Jam - panic from the rear - a rush and how many kids died was
it 15, and how many injured.   Have they had plenty of security to keep
watch over these kids with all the money the public is ripped off?

So, Pearl Jam gets involved in politicstake the note.and once
again the iniquities of the fathers are visted upon the children.

Are these the pearls of great price, and were they worth it?

I say they are Pearls of Great price at that but highly over-ratd and
over paid..but they should be careful for someday they themselves,
might end up being trampled upon by the "swine"/

So much for Pearl Jam feeling our pain as they bank their
proceeds.

A Saba

So here is their sales pitich - even teamed up with Black Sabbath - bet
that is a nice bunch ..
*
By the way, old joke was music was the 13th floor of the CIA..The
Pied Piper
Vipers...Send our boys to war with a song.
Never wrote a song about how Johnny Didn't Come Marching Home though,
did they...
*
get CD - DONATE DONATE DONATE - this is their idea of a charity event -
we pay for it
A SabaSo Much for United Way $
**

donate online   tracklistings

"NO BOUNDARIES" ALBUM,
TO BENEFIT THE REFUGEES OF KOSOVO,
WILL BE RELEASED JUNE 15 ON EPIC RECORDS
PEARL JAM'S "LAST KISS" IS THE FIRST SINGLE,

IN STORES JUNE 8

Album To Feature Rare, Live And Unreleased Tracks By Rage Against The
Machine, Neil Young, Pearl Jam, KoRn, Alanis Morissette, Tori Amos, The
Wallflowers, Oasis And More
On June 15, 1999, Epic Records will release No Boundaries--a unique
compilation created for the benefit of the refugees of Kosovo.

The 16-track album will feature rare, live and previously unreleased
special versions of songs by some of the most popular and acclaimed
artists on the international music scene. The artists confirmed to
appear on No Boundaries are Pearl Jam, Rage Against The Machine, Alanis
Morissette, Neil Young, Oasis, KoRn, Black Sabbath, Indigo Girls, Ben
Folds Five, Peter Gabriel, The Wallflowers, Sarah McLachlan, Bush, Tori
Amos, and Jamiroquai.

Pearl Jam's version of "Last Kiss," the 1964 hit by J. Frank Wilson 
the Cavaliers, will be the first single from No Boundaries. The single
arrives in stores June 8 and includes the B-side "Soldier Of Love," a
live version of the song first recorded by Arthur Alexander. "Last Kiss"
and "Soldier Of Love" were released initially as the 1998 Pearl Jam Fan
Club Christmas single and distributed free to fan club members only.
Both tracks are included on No Boundaries.
Pearl Jam manager Kelly Curtis says: "Pearl Jam is proud to offer this
small contribution to help improve the appalling conditions of the
refugees suffering from this human rights tragedy in Kosovo."

In advance of the album release date and based on projected sales of No
Boundaries, Epic Records will make an initial donation of $1,000,000 to
be distributed among three international aid organizations--CARE, OXFAM,
and Doctors Without Borders--all of which are working now to provide
food, shelter, medical care and other basic needs to the Kosovo
refugees. Further donations derived from worldwide sales of No

[CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-06-30 Thread Aleisha Saba



Pearl Jam concert turns deadly  At least 9 killed, more injured during
Denmark rock festival  Victims are loaded into ambulances outside the
Roskilde festival, 25 miles west of Copenhagen, Denmark, Friday, after
fans were crushed to death during a Pearl Jam concert.
 MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS
COPENHAGEN, Denmark, June 30 —  Fans rushed the stage during a Pearl
Jam concert in Denmark Friday night at one of Europe's largest rock
festivals, crushing to death at least nine people and injuring over two
dozen others, police said.
   
 
 
 
  Members of Pearl Jam implored the crowd to move back because people
were being pressed up against the stage ...
       "ALL IN ALL nine died in the disaster; three were
seriously injured. Twenty-six had to undergo hospital treatment," a
Copenhagen police spokesman told Reuters.
       Members of the rock band appealed to the crowd to move
back but were unable to prevent the massive surge forward, Danish radio
reported.
       The rush occurred at 11:40 p.m., police said, adding that
the identities of the victims were not immediately available.
       The stage where the deaths occured was one of seven
stages hosting performances during the four-day event, Europe's largest.
About 100,000 tickets were sold, but it was not immediately clear how
many people attended the concert.
       It rained much of Friday, and the festival grounds were
muddy. With the crowd edging ever closer, the band called on fans to
move back, festival spokesman Leif Skov said. The message was repeated
by loudspeakers.
       
SPECTATORS TUMBLE OVER EACHOTHER
       "At one point, a group of some 15 spectators collapsed en
masse in front of the rostrum and people behind them began
uncontrollably tumbling over them," a witness said. "It was obvious what
was going to happen."
       Pearl Jam broke off its performance, and the next show by
the British band The Cure was canceled in "respect for the dead," Skov
said. The deaths were announced over loudspeakers, and some
concert-goers began crying, Danish radio reported.
       Performances at the six other stages continued Friday
night and were scheduled to resume on the main stage Saturday afternoon.  
Advertisement

       The annual festival began Thursday and is scheduled to
end Sunday.
       First held in 1971, the Roskilde festival was inspired by
the 1969 Woodstock Festival in the United States. It is held each year
on a farm in Roskilde, 25 miles west of the capital, Copenhagen.
       In 1979, 11 people were trampled to death in Cincinnati,
Ohio, as they rushed for choice seats before the start of a concert by
the British rock band The Who.
       Last year, 52 people were killed and 150 were injured at
a concert in Minsk, Belarus, in a stampede that began when a hailstorm
hit and hundreds of fans ran from the concert to a subway station.
       
       The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this
report.
          
            
 Roskilde Festival Web site
 Local coverage in Jyllands-Posten newspaper
 N. Ireland blast wrecks rail line Royals shun Princess Diana
memorial Germany's Kohl grilled over scandal News in French from MSN
France News in German from MSNBC/ZDF

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pearl Jam concert turns deadly

2000-06-30 Thread David Sutherland

Well this means nothing Aleisha - its just another diversive post to
destract us from the "real" issues. People dying is irrevalent to the "real"
BIG issues here!!!


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Pearl Jam concert turns deadly At least 9 killed, more injured during
Denmark rock festival Victims are loaded into ambulances outside the
Roskilde festival, 25 miles west of Copenhagen, Denmark, Friday, after
fans were crushed to death during a Pearl Jam concert.
MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS
COPENHAGEN, Denmark, June 30 - Fans rushed the stage during a Pearl
Jam concert in Denmark Friday night at one of Europe's largest rock
festivals, crushing to death at least nine people and injuring over two
dozen others, police said.




Members of Pearl Jam implored the crowd to move back because people
were being pressed up against the stage ...
"ALL IN ALL nine died in the disaster; three were
seriously injured. Twenty-six had to undergo hospital treatment," a
Copenhagen police spokesman told Reuters.
Members of the rock band appealed to the crowd to move
back but were unable to prevent the massive surge forward, Danish radio
reported.
The rush occurred at 11:40 p.m., police said, adding that
the identities of the victims were not immediately available.
The stage where the deaths occured was one of seven
stages hosting performances during the four-day event, Europe's largest.
About 100,000 tickets were sold, but it was not immediately clear how
many people attended the concert.
It rained much of Friday, and the festival grounds were
muddy. With the crowd edging ever closer, the band called on fans to
move back, festival spokesman Leif Skov said. The message was repeated
by loudspeakers.

SPECTATORS TUMBLE OVER EACHOTHER
"At one point, a group of some 15 spectators collapsed en
masse in front of the rostrum and people behind them began
uncontrollably tumbling over them," a witness said. "It was obvious what
was going to happen."
Pearl Jam broke off its performance, and the next show by
the British band The Cure was canceled in "respect for the dead," Skov
said. The deaths were announced over loudspeakers, and some
concert-goers began crying, Danish radio reported.
Performances at the six other stages continued Friday
night and were scheduled to resume on the main stage Saturday afternoon.
Advertisement

The annual festival began Thursday and is scheduled to
end Sunday.
First held in 1971, the Roskilde festival was inspired by
the 1969 Woodstock Festival in the United States. It is held each year
on a farm in Roskilde, 25 miles west of the capital, Copenhagen.
In 1979, 11 people were trampled to death in Cincinnati,
Ohio, as they rushed for choice seats before the start of a concert by
the British rock band The Who.
Last year, 52 people were killed and 150 were injured at
a concert in Minsk, Belarus, in a stampede that began when a hailstorm
hit and hundreds of fans ran from the concert to a subway station.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this
report.


 Roskilde Festival Web site
 Local coverage in Jyllands-Posten newspaper
N. Ireland blast wrecks rail line Royals shun Princess Diana
memorial Germany's Kohl grilled over scandal News in French from MSN
France News in German from MSNBC/ZDF

Pearl Jam concert turns deadly Arkansas panel sues to disbar
Clinton Perot says no to Reform candidacy University's Los Alamos
role limited Pain goes beyond the gas pump




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