Re: [CTRL] Israel Deals US Weapons Secrets to Red Chinese (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/06/1999 9:54:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Prudy, are there other countries that allow dual citizenship with the U.S.? England perhaps? And if these citizens love England more than America, is that as evil as dual citizen/loyalty in the case of Israeli/Americans? I don't think other countries do unless an individual is born there. Then they may choose when they become adults. I could be wrong, because the laws they are a changin. Still, love is not an issue here, but loyalty is. If one claims citizenship in any country, that individual should do nothing that might be harmful to that country. So loyalty to Israel and the United States would demand no action be taken that might be harmful to either country. You're right in that Israel is a sovereign nation and may do what she wishes. It is up to the United States to see that Israel is not tempted. After the horror of ignoring the Jews just before and during World War II, too many people are trying to make it up by trying to believe that Israel is so much our friend that we may trust her in every way. That is not the case. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israel Deals US Weapons Secrets to Red Chinese (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/06/1999 1:35:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Israel Admits To Covert Defense Sales to China Israel has suddenly lifted the veil over its covert sales of sensitive U.S. defense technology to Red China. This has triggered a frantic scramble among dual loyalist Washington officials, media pundits, congressional leaders and Zionist power brokers. At last they must now share the blame for condoning this criminal and treasonous trade -- and lying about it -- for more than two decades. We do not have dual loyalists. We have dual citizenships. It is quite obvious where the loyalty lies. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israel Deals US Weapons Secrets to Red Chinese (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/06/1999 1:35:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Israel Admits To Covert Defense Sales to China Israel has suddenly lifted the veil over its covert sales of sensitive U.S. defense technology to Red China. This has triggered a frantic scramble among dual loyalist Washington officials, media pundits, congressional leaders and Zionist power brokers. At last they must now share the blame for condoning this criminal and treasonous trade -- and lying about it -- for more than two decades. Pardon me. But the last time I looked, Israel was a sovereign country. " Criminal and treasonous?" Are you nuts? They don't fall under U.S. laws. American corporations do, and the U.S. government does. A sovereign state can do what ever the hell it wants. That goes for Israel or any other state. I'm no knee jerk defender of Israel or its policies, but this crap is obvious for what it is. We do not have dual loyalists. We have dual citizenships. It is quite obvious where the loyalty lies. Prudy Hey Prudy, are there other countries that allow dual citizenship with the U.S.? England perhaps? And if these citizens love England more than America, is that as evil as dual citizen/loyalty in the case of Israeli/Americans? What arrogance. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel Deals US Weapons Secrets to Red Chinese (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 Subj: SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #29 Israel $ells US Secrets to Red Chinese excerpt: Israel Admits To Covert Defense Sales to China Israel has suddenly lifted the veil over its covert sales of sensitive U.S. defense technology to Red China. This has triggered a frantic scramble among dual loyalist Washington officials, media pundits, congressional leaders and Zionist power brokers. At last they must now share the blame for condoning this criminal and treasonous trade -- and lying about it -- for more than two decades. EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By James Harrer The SPOTLIGHT has been the only national publication to expose, in a series of detailed investigative reports spanning most of the 1990s, the multi-billion-dollar sellout of advanced U.S. weapons systems and missile technology appropriated by Israeli agents by fair means or foul. For performing this patriotic duty that no other medium in the world has seen fit to do, this newspaper has been pilloried and condemned and contemptuously ignored by America's corrupt power structure. A succession of presidents since Ronald Reagan, surrounded by dual loyalist advisers, are known to have granted the mini-state unique access to the Pentagon's most closely guarded research and development projects under pledges, covenants and statutory mandates of airtight secrecy. But despite these "paper safeguards," Israel "promptly betrayed some of the key assets of our war-fighting capability and sold them off to the world's biggest and most menacing Communist military machine -- mainland China," said Lt. Col. Terry Haverford, a retired U.S. Marine intelligence officer who is a technical consultant at the New York corporate headquarters of a major defense contractor. The Israel lobby, the most powerful alien pressure group in history, wielded its biggest stick to make sure that national security officials, journalists and congressional leaders never dared denounce -- or even mention -- this clandestine and treasonous commerce in advanced American armaments. But in October, the Israeli government used the occasion of a state visit by Gen. Chi Haotian, Communist China's defense minister, to make the techno-military alliance of the two countries public -- and official. "I came with a team of 20 [in fact 27] aides," Gen. Chi declared. "Because I am here to do business." The nature of the Red Chinese leader's business was made abundantly clear as he attended sales demonstrations of Israel's new Barak I missile batteries; a flight test by a MiG-21 fighter jet shipped over from China to be "up graded" in Israel with advanced U.S.-designed avionics and combat electronics; and the latest in battleground radar and intelligence systems, developed by the Pentagon and "borrowed" by Israel, ostensibly for "research use" only. "We have the ability to cooperate on more than a few issues," asserted Moshe Keter, president of Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), the mammoth defense conglomerate owned by the mini-state's government. Welcoming the Communist Chinese commander-in-chief, Keter added: "The IAI has always been ready -- and is more than ever ready now -- to do business with Chinese industries." As Israel brazenly bared its illegitimate liaison with the Chinese Communists, there were laments of regret and protestations of innocence from the very dual loyalist U.S. media moguls best known for shielding Israel from press criticism of any sort. But the most frantic reaction was stirred among the top echelons of the Clinton administration by the news that Chi will be the guest of honor at the Israeli Air Force's first full-dress test launch of its brand-new Arrow II anti-ballistic missile. "The Arrow II was developed by us over 14 years at a cost of well over $2 billion to American taxpayers, only to become another giveaway to Israel," Washington journalist Ted Wurzel said. This latest version, based on U.S. blueprints, was built jointly by U.S. and Israeli missile industries. "It represents the most advanced anti-ballistic system shared by the two nations," explained this expert observer. That Israel has apparently invited Communist China to share this exclusive -- and expensive -- missile technology so alarmed the White House that it ordered Lt. Gen. Ronald Kalish, director of the U.S. Ballistic Missile Defense Command, to cancel his own scheduled attendance at the Israeli test launch, The SPOTLIGHT has learned from well-placed diplomatic sources. Instead, U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen was hastily dispatched to Israel to warn Prime Minister Ehud Barak that such public displays of its "sensitive" Chinese armaments deals could cause a substantial popular up roar among the deluded and ignorant American public. Simultaneously, Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers has arrived in Beijing to caution the
