Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-06 Thread Eric Stewart

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June,

Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance?  I've
heard
of and experienced great benefits from such.

Samantha
==
I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics
(acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the
stuff).


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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-06 Thread revcoal

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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Eric Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance?  I've
heard of and experienced great benefits from such.

==
I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics
(acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the
stuff).

You're 'preaching to the choir', in my case...

But as supportive as I am of alternative therapies, herbs, essential oils,
all that stuff, it doesn't change the fact that my thyroid is 7/8ths dead
tissue which can never be restored, a condition which was very probably
(according to my endocrinologist) brought about by the severe bouts of flu
I only experienced AFTER my one and only flu shot.

June

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-06 Thread Samatha 'Smith'

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In a message dated 99-02-06 14:23:08 EST, you write:

 I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics
  (acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the
  stuff).


I've never read anything about blue-green algae.  I'll have to look into
it.  Agree on the digestive enzymes and pro-biotics.  We use natural papaya
and pineapple as digestive aids at my house.  Some other products use animal
bile and it sounds unappealing to me.

As for thyroid assistance using herbals, kelp was strongly recommended to
me by an herbalist.  The iodine in kelp is helpful.  Apparently we need more
iodone than is usually suggested.

If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid
function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for Nutritional
Healing."  This book has guided us through several maladies.  I don't sell
this stuff either.
Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-06 Thread Harry Hendrickson

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Most processed vitamins and minearals are not used by the body. The body is
positvely charged, and NATURAL minerals taken in from plants grown in the
rich mineral soil (if you can find any), is negatively charged. This makes
the body accept them. The processed minearls are inheirently positively
charged making them difficult or impossible to be used by the body. It is
almost similar to a car battery, with it's positive and negative poles, or
a magnet ,with it's opposites attracting.
   Also the blue green algae has at least 20-28 of the known needed enzymes
for the immune system to function properly. These enzymes are becoming very
scarse in our diets as we eat more and more processed foods which destroy
the fragile enzymes in the process of heating, irradiating, etc. the foods.
Without these enzymes, our immune defense mechanism is weakened allowing
many viruses and "bugs" to multiply in the body. I too do not sell
anything. Only giving some good hard facts about
nutrition.harry

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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
 Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 9:08 PM

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-02-06 14:23:08 EST, you write:

  I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics
   (acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the
   stuff).
 

 I've never read anything about blue-green algae.  I'll have to look
into
 it.  Agree on the digestive enzymes and pro-biotics.  We use natural
papaya
 and pineapple as digestive aids at my house.  Some other products use
animal
 bile and it sounds unappealing to me.

 As for thyroid assistance using herbals, kelp was strongly
recommended to
 me by an herbalist.  The iodine in kelp is helpful.  Apparently we need
more
 iodone than is usually suggested.

 If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid
 function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for
Nutritional
 Healing."  This book has guided us through several maladies.  I don't
sell
 this stuff either.
 Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-06 Thread Teo One Thousand

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In a message dated 2/6/99 9:10:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid
 function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for
Nutritional
 Healing."  This book has guided us through several maladies.  I don't sell
 this stuff either.
 Samantha 

Yes, please.  I was also wondering if supplementing with additional amounts of
the amino acid Tyrosine would be beneficial?  How much?  Several grams a day,
or what?  I am considering an increase in Iodine and Tyrosine intake, and am
wondering if this would be helpful.  You may respond to me off list since we
are diverging from list parameters.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts

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June,
I have a similar story. Got sick , I think it was a few weeks after getting a flu
shot. Then we were informed that there was something wrong with the vaccine and
that it didn't protect against one virulent strain of flu that was becoming common.

I wouldn't get another one.
Eric Roberts

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 Teo1000 wrote:

 Well, as regards this sickness.  I am sick myself and it is most unusual.  I
 am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition
 I got a flu shot around October of last year.

 The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout
 of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I'd never been that sick before,
 it was the first time I'd ever had laryngitis, etc.

 Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of
 what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I
 asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that
 there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one
 of them...

 I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER...

 June

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Teo One Thousand

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In a message dated 2/4/99 11:41:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of
 what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I
 asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that
 there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one
 of them... 
You mind telloing me what the symptoms are for this malady?  I may be
experiencing Thyroid problems also.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Source - Richard wrote:
It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu
injection.

No, it is notat least, that's not how it's marketed to the public,
where those who are at greatest risk for respiratory infection are
pressured into getting the shots.


The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to
help build up your immune system.

Didn't work in my case...not only did I get the worst case of flu I'd
ever had in my whole life, but I continued to get very bad cases of flu
every year thereafter, where before I'd only had maybe 3 or so bouts of
flu in my life...

And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by
destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune
system...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Source - Richard

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Bummer!!

YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Source - Richard wrote:
It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu
injection.

No, it is notat least, that's not how it's marketed to the public,
where those who are at greatest risk for respiratory infection are
pressured into getting the shots.


The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to
help build up your immune system.

Didn't work in my case...not only did I get the worst case of flu I'd
ever had in my whole life, but I continued to get very bad cases of flu
every year thereafter, where before I'd only had maybe 3 or so bouts of
flu in my life...

And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by
destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune
system...


June

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  Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear.
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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread G Kuric

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June wrote:

The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout
of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I started exhibiting the first
symptoms of
what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I
asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that
there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one
of them...I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER...

My experience was identical!  Additionally, I've had a 5 week virus lately
that defies diagnosis and treatment.  Hard to get in to see a doctor around
here as the whole town appears to have same mystery respiratory illness.

Teo1000 - here's a start:

http://www.healthy.net/LIBRARY/Articles/Schacter/hypothyr.d.htm

Gail

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Liz Schumacher

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June, youd be surprised how many nurses refuse the hepatitis
vaccine they are supposed to get before they start working.

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Teo One Thousand

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 But generally, if one is hypothyroid, you'd find yourself tired most of
 the time, or getting tired easilyyou'd probably tend to feel colder
 than everyone else (indeed, a simple test to check for hypothyroidism is
 to take one's basal temp every morning -- first thing upon awakening,
 before doing anything else, you take your temp -- opinions vary about
 whether to take it orally, or by sticking it under your armpit for 10
 minutes -- and record your temps for every morning for two weeks...if
 you're hypothyroid, you'll find you're running a few degrees below
 normal) (the armpit temp's normal temp is a few decimals below one's oral
 temp)

 Another common sign is very dry skin, and one may or may not have a
 goiter...also one tends to lose one's appetite, but ironically tends to
 put on weight (or find it difficult if not impossible to lose weight) 

Wow this exactly describes what I am experiencing.  I am on synthetic thyroid
hormone but it is a small dose and seems to not be affecting it much.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE]

1999-02-05 Thread Robert Tatman

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YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout
 of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I'd never been that sick before,
 it was the first time I'd ever had laryngitis, etc.

 Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of
 what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I
 asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that
 there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one
 of them...

 I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER...


 June

June, I don't know if this was the practice when you got your shot, but when I
got my flu shot a couple of months ago, I had to sign a sheet stating that I
had been informed of the possible side effects of the vaccine. Yes, it *can*
give you a full-blown case of the flu, although the odds of that happening are
low; you were one of the cases where it *did* happen. I have to get a flu
shot, as well as pneumovax (vaccine against Staphylococcus pneumoniae, which
causes some forms of pneumonia as well as other problems), because I have a
chronic lung condition (pulmonary sarcoidosis). It's your call whether you get
another flu shot; if you're otherwise healthy, and don't mind running the
risk, you can probably get away with skipping it. I *can't* run that risk; I
have enough trouble breathing without adding the flu into the equation. I also
doubt that the flu vaccine is related to the thing that Teo was speaking
of--I've had a variant of it for the past two months. My pulmonologist calls
it "There's a lot of that going around." I'd like to see an epidemiological
study of the areas where the spraying, odd contrails, etc., have been
reported, to determine if there is a greater incidence of "there's a lot of
that going around" in those areas than elsewhere. Even some strong anecdotal
evidence would be useful.

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Eric Stewart

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And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by
destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune
system...


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It would seem you have Acquired an Immune Deficiency.


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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Samatha 'Smith'

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In a message dated 99-02-05 04:37:17 EST, you write:

 It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu
injection.
  The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to help build up
 your immune system.

  Richard B.

They tell you you MAY get a mild case, but that it would be much less than if
you got the actual flu.
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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Teo One Thousand wrote:
Wow this exactly describes what I am experiencing.  I am on synthetic thyroid
hormone but it is a small dose and seems to not be affecting it much.

One's requirements usually increase with age...you should go back to your
endocrinologist and have him or her run some update blood tests to
determine your current requirements...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Eric Stewart wrote:
And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by
destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune
system...

It would seem you have Acquired an Immune Deficiency.

Exactly.  I was initially diagnosed in early 1983, when 'AIDS' was just
becoming big news...and the more I read up regarding hypothyroidism in
general, and Hashimoto's thyroiditis in particular, the more I kept
running across the term 'an acquired deficiency effecting the immune
system'...the same terminology that was then cropping up regarding
AIDS

Hashimoto's is particularly bad, as it is the thyroid turning against
itself, thinking it is a foreign invader to be destroyed, and so it sends
out signals to trigger the leukocytes to attack the thyroid's own tissue
as if the tissue was a virus...

I've developed any number of allergies since then, again the thyroid
triggering the immune system to react to an innocuous substance as if it
were an infection...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Samatha 'Smith'

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In a message dated 99-02-05 20:42:56 EST, you write:

 Hashimoto's is particularly bad, as it is the thyroid turning against
  itself, thinking it is a foreign invader to be destroyed, and so it sends
  out signals to trigger the leukocytes to attack the thyroid's own tissue
  as if the tissue was a virus...

  I've developed any number of allergies since then, again the thyroid
  triggering the immune system to react to an innocuous substance as if it
  were an infection...


  June

June,

Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance?  I've heard
of and experienced great benefits from such.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE]

1999-02-05 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Robert Tatman wrote:
June, I don't know if this was the practice when you got your shot, but when I
got my flu shot a couple of months ago, I had to sign a sheet stating that I
had been informed of the possible side effects of the vaccine. Yes, it *can*
give you a full-blown case of the flu, although the odds of that happening are
low; you were one of the cases where it *did* happen.

This was more than 20 years ago...

But every year, any place I'm working pushes flu shots on the employees,
and without fail most of those who get the shots come down with very bad
cases of the flu a short time later

This happened where I was working last year...one of the strongest pushes
for flu shots I'd ever seen, they had booths set up right outside the
elevator landing, on the way to the cafeteria, where it was impossible to
ignore...and they had this setup for any one desiring a 'walk up' shot,
for one full week, with daily announcements via email and paper flyers
for everyone to get their shots

Everyone who sat around me got a shot...within a couple of weeks, all
were not only sick, but VERY sick, for a VERY LONG TIME...

I also got sick...probably because I was surrounded by all these sick
people...but I wasn't any more ill than those who'd taken the shot...

No, I still have seen no evidence for its effectiveness, not to warrant
all the potential health risks it can cause...


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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-04 Thread Gerry Forbes

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Teo1000 wrote:

Well, as regards this sickness.  I am sick myself and it is most unusual.  I
am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition
I got a flu shot around October of last year.  I don't know how these things
relate but I have been having a problem with fatigue too, and have noticed
weird contrails in the air around here lately too.  One of the contrails was
almost luminescent, and easily seen in the night sky.  One other I observed in
the daytime was similar to those attributed to pulse jets, that supposedly
don't exist.
Could all be a big nothing but I find it interesting that all of this is
happening at the same time like this and in such widely diverse places.
Teo1000


Recently in Vancouver there was an epidemic of leaky condos.
Naturally there was a lot of outrage and complaints from the
victims about the tens of thousands of dollars in repairs, but
there were also some health complaints because the dampness
allowed mould and fungi to grow which caused lingering flu-like
symptoms and fatigue. This struck me because I remember a
number of people on this list complaining of flu-like sickness
that wouldn't go away. So you might check for damp areas in
your residence.

As to the luminescence of the contrail, if it was the *early*
night sky and the contrail was very high, remember that the
sun might still be shining on it.

These contrail stories make me uneasy, too. I remember going
out for a paper one morning when Vancouver was being sprayed to
eridicate gypsy moths. I heard a plane overhead so I hurried --
couldn't have been outside for more than 3 or 4 minutes -- but
I came down with a sore throat which was one of effects on humans
that the sprayers admitted might occur. So I definitely don't
like chemical agents being dumped on me from above! Nevertheless,
it's important to eliminate alternative explanations before getting
too paranoid.

Gerry

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[CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-02 Thread Eric Stewart

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Fwd:

  I just got the following message from William Thomas
  (http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco) a veteran journalist
  covering military activity who broke the story on wide-
  spread accounts of spraying from USAF jets that makes
  people sick and leaves local hospitals overflowing.

  USAF Jets Said To Be Spraying Something That Sickens:
   http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html
   http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html

  Since the story broke, William has been flooded with
  accounts from around the nation of massive jet-spray
  operations followed by widespread illness below. I've
  received many such accounts and I don't know what to
  make of this: Are these false associations? Are people
  pulling my leg? Or is this true? Will Thomas says yes!

  To get an idea of how widespread these jet-poisoning
  reports are, listen to the 1/25/99 Art Bell show here:
  http://ww2.broadcast.com/artbell/archive99.html#jan99

  As we have seen, with respect to the now-repealed U.S.
  Code 10(1520), the use of entire "civilian populations"
  for the testing of any chemical or biological warfare
  agent has been fully permitted, subject only to minor
  conditions. The new law, USC 10(1520(a)), puts limits
  only on any public poisoning conducted by one official.

  If mass poisoning is defined in the law, can we really
  say that reports of jets spraying sickness down from
  the skies is such a big surprise?  -- Ian Goddard

 This could be the biggest and most-covered-up story ever:


Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:03:48 -0800 (PST)
To: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: William Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Foreign Troops?

Hi Ian,

. . . please issue the following alert.
The clock is tickin...

Something huge is going on. In many regions, I can confirm that
hospital emergency rooms are filled to overflowing with a sudden
epidemic of acute respiratory patients suffering from something doctors
cannot diagnose - and that is NOT the flu. Newspapers in Bakersfield,
California are reporting jammed emergency rooms. Here's a typical story
from a North Carolina newspaper:

"FEELING ROTTEN? Outbreak of respiratory illnesses has doctors' offices
full, but it's probably not the flu."  by  Rebecca Lentz, Staff Writer

"Call it the creeping crud. Call it a virus. Call it whatever you'd
like. But whatever it is, it's miserable.

"Adults and children alike are down for the count with the virus. Upper
respiratory infections are keeping doctors' offices hopping and the
hospital seeing record numbers of patients.

"Medac, a walk-in clinic, has been busy with patients complaining of
similar symptoms. New Hanover Regional's patient count has been at its
highest level in history, with 503 of its available 504 inpatient beds
filled on Jan. 7. On Sunday, the patient count stood at 454. Even so,
the majority of illnesses aren't influenza, health officials said.


This much we know:

1. Reports of odd "contrails" are coming in from 22 states so far. Many
sightings occurred months or years before this story was made public -
prompting impromptu snapshots and video recordings and calls to the
attention of friends and bystanders by people who are quite used to
seeing commercial airplanes and normal contrails - and were astonished
to see giant X's and grid-patterns woven "like  Tic-tac-toe" by large
aircraft criss-crossing the sky, often for hours over the same area.

2. These are not "contrails" being reported. The aircraft have been
positively identified as USAF Boeing KC-135 and KC-10 air-to-air
refueling aircraft spraying an unidentified substance from their
tail-booms.

3. The observed tanker aircraft are not engaged in routine formation
flying or air-to-air refueling. JP8 fuel inadvertently spilled or dumped
to lower landing weights atomizes at jet speeds and does not fall as
"cobwebs" observed by police officers and other reliable witnesses.
Routine fuel dumping does not continue over hours by multiple aircraft
weaving furrows over the same area until clear blue skies are completely
hazed over.

4. Now occurring daily, this extremely expensive nationwide "spraying"
is deliberate and laid down in specific patterns over hours.

5. These are not "cloud-seeding" activities as no clouds are present and
local weather does not turn to rain immediately after these events.

6.  In some notable cases, violent and unseasonal storms such as the
recent flurry of "summer" tornadoes over Tennessee and heavy snowfall in
Bakersfield, CA and Phoenix, AZ have occurred within days of documented
(videotaped) spraying. Sharp "spikes" in power output from the USN/USAF
"ionospheric heater" known has HAARP have were recorded just before last
December's "horizontal snowstorm", localized around Turret Peak, AZ.
These weather anomalies - and HAARP - may be related to aerial spraying
using fast-dissolving, "smart plastic" polymers to catch HAARP's
high-intensity radio 

Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-02 Thread Samatha 'Smith'

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In a message dated 99-02-02 19:08:52 EST, you write:

 Newspapers in Bakersfield,
  California are reporting jammed emergency rooms. Here's a typical story
  from a North Carolina newspaper:

From earlier reading (on another list) what has been described is a
substance similar to cobwebs falling from the sky.  The cobwebs melt or
dissolve upon contact.

I told a friend who just moved from Bakersfield what was being posted.
She said she had seen cobweb-like strings hanging from street light poles.
She saw them in October, around Halloween and thought, perhaps, they were
decorations, though they were very thin.  She touched them and they didn't
melt or dissolve on contact.

She was ill in her last month in Bakersfield -- though not with an upper
respiratory infection.  She had three separate bouts of diarrhea in three
weeks and was puzzled by that.  She did mention, however, that whenever she
went to her medical plan's urgent care center to pick up prescriptions, the
urgent care centers were packed with coughing people.

Perhaps her experiences are related to the spraying -- though she
mentioned that people get sick there in October every year -- and that it is
usually chalked up to spraying cotton.
Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-02 Thread Teo One Thousand

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Well, as regards this sickness.  I am sick myself and it is most unusual.  I
am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition
I got a flu shot around October of last year.  I don't know how these things
relate but I have been having a problem with fatigue too, and have noticed
weird contrails in the air around here lately too.  One of the contrails was
almost luminescent, and easily seen in the night sky.  One other I observed in
the daytime was similar to those attributed to pulse jets, that supposedly
don't exist.
Could all be a big nothing but I find it interesting that all of this is
happening at the same time like this and in such widely diverse places.
Teo1000

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