[CTRL] SnoOwl: Drudge Report//agreement

1999-01-04 Thread Edward Britton

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SnoOwl:

On this one, I am in total agreement with you. This feces is getting
sickening! If this turns out to be a farce, as so many of Drudge's
"reports" have proven to be, here's hoping Clinton sues this man a new
bung-hole.

No one is served by this kind of tripe.

Edward   

The absolute nastiness of this sort of stuff is that Drudge and his
like know that it doesn't matter if the story is true or not. The
story will stick in the public mind and no one will pay much
attention to the refutation--if and when it comes.

This is the total corruption of journalism and does not relate to
"news." It is the very core of character assassination--whether it
has to do with Richard Jewel or Bill Clinton or whoever.

And this group is suspect for being titillated by this kind of
garbage. Let Drudge wait until the DNA test comes through. Only then
is there a story.or no story at all.

The name of Drudge's story is "The Humiliation of the U.S.
President."  No one deserves to be treated this way in the press.
Even Larry Flynt knows better.
sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: Drudge Report//agreement

1999-01-04 Thread JYester

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In a message dated 1/4/99 8:25:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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  On this one, I am in total agreement with you. This feces is getting
  sickening! If this turns out to be a farce, as so many of Drudge's
  "reports" have proven to be, here's hoping Clinton sues this man a new
  bung-hole.

  No one is served by this kind of tripe.

Other than the wife beating story, please post a list of Drudge reports that
have been farces. I must have missed them.

Thanks,
Jim

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Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: Drudge Report//agreement

1999-01-04 Thread nurev

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Edward Britton wrote:

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 SnoOwl:

 On this one, I am in total agreement with you. This feces is getting
 sickening! If this turns out to be a farce, as so many of Drudge's
 "reports" have proven to be, here's hoping Clinton sues this man a new
 bung-hole.

 No one is served by this kind of tripe.

 Edward   

 The absolute nastiness of this sort of stuff is that Drudge and his
 like know that it doesn't matter if the story is true or not. The
 story will stick in the public mind and no one will pay much
 attention to the refutation--if and when it comes.
 
 This is the total corruption of journalism and does not relate to
 "news." It is the very core of character assassination--whether it
 has to do with Richard Jewel or Bill Clinton or whoever.
 
 And this group is suspect for being titillated by this kind of
 garbage. Let Drudge wait until the DNA test comes through. Only then
 is there a story.or no story at all.
 
 The name of Drudge's story is "The Humiliation of the U.S.
 President."  No one deserves to be treated this way in the press.
 Even Larry Flynt knows better.
 sno0wl

Why are youassuming it's not true?
J2

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Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: Drudge Report//agreement

1999-01-04 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 1/4/99 11:04:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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  Why are youassuming it's not true?
  J2

You miss the point, J2.

SnowOwl is talking about the responsibility of the news media to not spread
every rumor of scandal.  Nor is this a responsibility of the news media only.
It is one thing to privately think that yes, the SOB is probably guilty of
whatever happens to be said about him and it is another for the, so far,
unsupported, rumor to be published.  Got it?

Jerry

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Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: Drudge Report//agreement

1999-01-04 Thread JYester

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In a message dated 1/4/99 12:15:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Why are youassuming it's not true?
J2

  You miss the point, J2.

  SnowOwl is talking about the responsibility of the news media to not spread
  every rumor of scandal.  Nor is this a responsibility of the news media
only.

  It is one thing to privately think that yes, the SOB is probably guilty of
  whatever happens to be said about him and it is another for the, so far,
  unsupported, rumor to be published.  Got it?

  Jerry

Regarding the Danny Williams story, it's really an old story. I was aware of
it back in 1993 or 1994 and I'm sure many others on the list were as well.
Back then some "Christian" outfit out of Louisiana was trying to make hay with
it, mailing and faxing it to all corners. But all they got was a "So what?,"
which may be all it merits anyway. However, the story has refused to go away
and all the basic facts have remained the same. My point is that if this story
is 5 years old and has remained substantially unchanged in that time, and
hasn't been debunked in that period, that in itself gives it, if not
credibility, the worth of a look-see. Add to that the fact that Danny is the
"spiting image" of the alleged dad and you've got something that's worth the
effort of a tabloid press. And let's face it, virtually all of the press is
tabloid these days. Which brings me to the question, why should Clinton be off
limits? Hollywood celebrities are not, nor are most other politicians. Now
those who would defend this story as pertinent say it is because it would
expose the president as a "deadbeat dad" and therefore a hypocrite. Even at
that point people can choose sides and debate, and even then the debate will
probably devide between Clinton lovers and haters; it is unlikely that
hypocricy will play any greater role in that debate than truth and honesty
play in the current one.

BTW, my memory is fuzzy now, but I vaguely recall on first reading this story
(5 years ago) that it indicated that Danny and his mother were "being taken
care of." Could be wrong on that but if true it would negate the deadbeat dad
charge. If true, regardless of the reasons,  Clinton could actually turn it to
his political advantage.

But beyond the tabloid quality of the story. I too would rather that it
didn't exist, but I do think that it has legitimacy. I say that because I
believe in full disclosure from those who would be our leaders. I'm old
fashiioned; I still think that character matters. Having said that, let me say
that I don't believe that a healthy libido, occassional lapses in judgment,
nor ocasasional indiscretions are necessarily indications of poor character.
However, deceit, covering up, failing to accept personal responsibility -
these ARE indications of poor character. No, the Danny story isn't a nice one,
but it is a legitimate one. Rather than saying that members of the press are
sick, mean, or dirty because they are pursuing this story, I would feel much
worse about them if they buried it as they tend to do with so many others.

JMHO,
Jim

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